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TSpedro
post Apr 10 2011, 03:45 PM, updated 14y ago

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I'll give it a shot!

GASPARI MYOFUSION

-Good value
-Tastes great
-Mixes well
-Keeps you full for longer

Personal experience with Myofusion is very good,not changing anytime soon.

MRI BLACK POWDER
-Pre workout

-Works fast
-Taste is not that great
-Gives more focus and endurance

Overall good experience albeit having a high heart rate and sweating a lot.

MHP DARK MATTER
-Post workout

-Works very fast
-Tastes great
-Eliminates tiredness after workout
-Accelerates recovery

When taking this immediately after a workout I feel like continuing the workout,helps a lot in recovery.

GAT Jetfuse
-Pre workout

-Tastes quite bad
-Headache
-High caffeine content

Really didn't like this one as it made me feel sick.

Dorian Yates NOXPUMP
-Pre workout

-Taste is very strong and artificial
-Pretty good focus and endurance
-High caffeine

Pretty good during workout but don't feel that great after workout.

Universal Nutrition Animal Pak

-Wide range of vitamins and essential acids
-A lot of pills to swallow

Animal pak does help a lot if you have a hectic schedule and train at odd hours.

Scivation Xtend
-Intra workout

-Provides smooth energy flow during workout
-Feel less tired during and after workout

Xtend really made my workout easier,training at 6am is not easy but this makes it possible to go heavy even at that ungodly hour.

Adding more soon!

This post has been edited by pedro: Apr 10 2011, 03:59 PM
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post Apr 10 2011, 09:12 PM

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My stack is:-
Controlled Labs Glycergrow
Controlled Labs White Flood
Controlled Labs Purple In Train
Controlled Labs Green Magnitude
Gaspari's Myofusion
Controlled Labs Orange Triad

Yes I'm a CL freak. =P
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post Apr 10 2011, 09:33 PM

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Mine 's

Optimum On Whey<-- Thinking of going to Myofusion
EAS Creatine
EAS Glutamine

Scivation Xtend
DY NOXpump

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post Apr 10 2011, 09:49 PM

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Wey give some opinions la!!

How was the experience?
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post Apr 10 2011, 10:30 PM

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Bsn no-xplode >> pre-workout
ON Gold standard whey >> post-workout
Myofusion >> pre-bed
Dymatize creatine

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post Apr 10 2011, 10:50 PM

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okay i wanna aks you guys. i just bought gaspari annavites and superpump 250.

the question for annavites.
anybody is using it? how much the dosage u guys take? serving says 3 tabs per servings and reccomend 2 servings per day.
that means 6 tabs per day? i`m afraid i might just waste it.
i`m not big. i dont think need that much of servings per day!
im just 70 kg and 172cm. pls enlighten me with this.

for the superpump 250,
did u guys stack this supp with creatine? it do has creatine inside. do i really need to take creatine on top of that?

sorry for the noob question. i`m just afraid i`m wasting my money on supps. thanx!
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Man, awesome thread, good for reference LOL!
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 10 2011, 09:49 PM)
Wey give some opinions la!!

How was the experience?
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u want every supplement experience review? -__-
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post Apr 11 2011, 01:21 AM

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SCIVATION WHEY

- it works
- tastes good even in plain water with ice

- may clump a bit

this whey keeps me full compared to those i've tried before like ON and Muscletech's whey

plan to change to myofusion

EGO's CREATINE MONOHYDRATE
-Pre workout

- really really coarse
- hate it

cant really tell the difference cuz sometimes i can feel it work, sometimes i cant, may change to dymatize's

EGO's GLUTAMINE POWDER
- waking up, mid day, pre workout , before sleep (depending on needs but usually 30-40g a day)

- smells nice
- it kind of helps a lot with recovery

SCIVATION XTEND
- pre,intra,post, anytime of the day i feel catabolic

- Provides smooth energy flow during workout
- Feel less tired during and after workout
- i sweat a lot due to this thing
- tastes really really good

like what pedro said, workout is easier and i love the taste

UNIVERSAL NUTRITION ANIMAL PAK

-Wide range of vitamins and essential acids
-A lot of pills to swallow but i can swallow 2-3 big ones at one time so its fine

i dont depend on animal pak alone as i have other supplements such as vitamin E and C and B complexes (Standalone pills) which i get for free from my dad

VPX MELTDOWN (REDLINE variant)

- its a fat burner which kind of works for me (albeit at a slow rate)
- not into the fat burning effect rather i want the heat and energy je
- it does provides energy but i dont get the mood enhancing shyte (i can still sleep on the wheel even when i swallowed three of them prior to driving)

takes a while before i can feel it work but it does its job. supply is sparse but i can get it from ebay.

BSN LEAN DESSERT
- MRP

- tastes good if u got ice (plain water alone aint enuf)
- its thick
- good profile (1 heaping scoop has 16g of protein and 8g of carbs [maltodextrin])

- makes me feel really full but i've only tried chocolate

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post Apr 11 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 10 2011, 09:49 PM)
Wey give some opinions la!!

How was the experience?
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That's my experience.

QUOTE(jackwylde @ Apr 10 2011, 10:50 PM)
okay i wanna aks you guys. i just bought gaspari annavites and superpump 250.

the question for annavites.
anybody is using it? how much the dosage u guys take? serving says 3 tabs per servings and reccomend 2 servings per day.
that means 6 tabs per day? i`m afraid i might just waste it.
i`m not big. i dont think  need that much of servings per day!
im just 70 kg and 172cm. pls enlighten me with this.

for the superpump 250,
did u guys stack this supp with creatine? it do has creatine inside. do i really need to take creatine on top of that?

sorry for the noob question. i`m just afraid i`m wasting my money on supps. thanx!
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Tried Anavite once. Not bad. I still like AP and Orange Triad more though. Not much experience with Gaspari products except Myofusion. I might try their stack soon. They recommended stacking SizeOn with Superpump but I suppose you can stack a regular creatine with Superpump.

From my experience what makes a supplement effective is combining it with another supplement type which gives a synergistic effect. Hence stacking is very important.

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post Apr 11 2011, 10:22 AM

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Great thread here, Mr Pedro. rclxms.gif I've been on supps and such for the past 3 weeks and I'll give my 2 scoops of creatine monohydrate:

GAT

JetFUSE - Pre-workout - 2.35lbs
The first time I ever tried anything with NO inside and I remember having the most outrageous pump. I was training Back and pulled PRs for one-arm rows, pulldowns, rack deadlifts and barbell shrugs (I normally do shrugs on Delts day but I just threw them as the pump was crazy). I sound like I'm exaggerating but for a first timer it gave me a lot of confidence. Subsequent usages have diminished, to be honest. but that's only the pump. Strength-wise I'm still pulling PRs on certain exercises and I don't tire as easily. Overall, it's a great product, tastes all right but is quite pricey.

JetMass - Post-workout - 1.83lbs
Like the above, the first time I took it right after training Back I immediately felt energised and actually raring to go and train again. I definitely like this product a lot. I don't feel bloated too but it's helluva sweet. It's got an after taste that lasts a loooong time. But it works and I'm fine with it, however, I won't get it anymore because at RM183 (from Egonutritions) I find it too pricey.

JetFuel - Fat-burner - 120 caps
This came free after I bought both products above. No jitters or shakes experienced. Nothing more I can say.

Dymatize - Creatine Monohydrate - 2.2lbs
I take it on non-workout days and it works as I feel my arms are not as soft as before. No bloat experienced too.

Am looking forward to trying out other products.

Awesome thread once again. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 12 2011, 09:50 AM

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My turn my turn,

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Whiteflood

Taste: Lemonade, Great taste. 9/10
Pump: not really to pump. 5/10
Focus: Awesome focus, u can feel ur scalp is stretching (i know it sounds silly but tats the only was i can express it) 8/10

overall: great product, it felt like heavy dose of coffee.

Superpump250

Taste: Raspberry, Awesome taste 9/10 (can be 10 if u mix with ice XD)
Pump: The only product that i tried that it actually pop up my vines and give you the feeling to lift more. 8/10
Focus: Not as strong as whiteflood, it is just average. 5/10

Overall: My favorite so far.

SAN Fierce

Taste: Taste pretty artificial but acceptable (orange flav) 7/10
Pump: Not much but still can feel a little. 6/10
Focus: Focus is average as well, but at least u wont crash or worn off half way of ur workout thou;) 6.5/10

Overall: Bad part is that, after downing with half of the bottle, u have to increase ur dosage, u cant feel sheet for single scoop, i tried 2 scoops and 1.5 scoop, 1.5 scoop will do the job but 2 scoops will give u bomb and at the same time it burns ur wallet too. Make your pick. Overall it is just an average product.

The following are the sample product that i got it from Ego.

EPO-Blast

Taste: Raspberry ? i think so. Taste fine, but could be better. 7/10
Pump: It gives me a slight headache, but the pump is there, no far from SAN fierce 6.5/10
Focus: Focus is stronger than SAN Fierce and ofcoz it cant beat whiteflood 7/10

Overall: Only tried once on the trial sachet from Ego, cant really make a solid conclusion... but this sheet aint cheap XD.

DY NOX

Taste: Lemonade. I dont know if the one that i got has gone bad or what, it wasnt really in powder form and is a little damp and it is bitter. (taste like lime with the skin on). 4/10
Pump: Great pump, but cant beat SP250. 7/10
Focus: Great focus, i got stronger on my squat. 7.5/10

Overall: Great product, but i need confirmation from other member with the taste, but it works thou. The taste is seriously an issue. lol.

Black powder

Taste: Orange. Taste like cheap candy with orange and milk flavour, but this fella comes with gas. 3/10. I would rather take DY NOX.
Pump: Cant really feel it thou.... 5/10
Focus: it wakes my morning up, but aft training i actually still have the feeling of taking a nap ..... (and i actually took one for 20mins) not the greatest but acceptable. 6/10

NOTE: For the sample product, i can really sure if those are the actual feeling that i would get since i only tkane once, so it would be quite unfair for me to judge now so try out urself and tell us ur story. XD

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post Apr 12 2011, 09:58 AM

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Jamis - The DY NOX seriously tastes bad man,first time I almost puked.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 12 2011, 09:58 AM)
Jamis - The DY NOX seriously tastes bad man,first time I almost puked.
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omg, i tot mine was rotten and it does taste like tat lol, those bitterness is like taking medicine or some Chinese herbal lol. but this thing works :S
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Even 6x Mr Olympia Dorian Yates rates his own product as tasting like sh*t. biggrin.gif
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Nothing has beaten White Flood so far for me. Most of my heaviest lifts were when I was on that stuff. Other preworkout boosters either made me crash or didn't do much. Worst was Hemorage Black Concentrate. Only think I have not tried yet was Superpump by Gaspari.

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ON whey (ch0c)
- Plain taste.
- Increase lean mass quite slow.

ON Casein (ch0c)
- Give full on stomach during sleep.
- taste quite delicious compare to whey.

Myofusion Hydro
- can feel the different when took this compare with ON
- Taste awesome.
- energy level superb

Superpump250 (orange)
- taste delicious
- was on this supplement when i did leg press 484lbs (220kg) 10 reps.

Animal Pak
- give my urine more yellowish. I guess it's good. efficient to absorb.
- feel better on my body



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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:20 PM)
ON whey (ch0c)
- Plain taste.
- Increase lean mass quite slow.

ON Casein (ch0c)
- Give full on stomach during sleep.
- taste quite delicious compare to whey.

Myofusion Hydro
- can feel the different when took this compare with ON
- Taste awesome.
- energy level superb

Superpump250 (orange)
- taste delicious
- was on this supplement when i did leg press 484lbs (220kg) 10 reps.

Animal Pak
- give my urine more yellowish. I guess it's good. efficient to absorb.
- feel better on my body
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1) i had a different experience, almost puked the first time i tasted it. tasted so bad, but i got used to it eventually.

2) thats just the excess vitamins your pissing out bro. hahaha
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anyone here tried universal nutrition's M- STAK before? smile.gif
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Wow I have to admit that the DY NOX seriously works,the pump and endurance is awesome.

But had to pinch my nose to get it down in the morning....
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oh man, i feel like trying sizeon but dunno if i wan to stack it with superpump or shock therapy. I never tried shock therapy thou but stacking superpump and sizeon seems to have a great review >< .

Oh ya, M Stak, looks interesting but no extra buck to try tat thing out sad.gif
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I am about to finish a tub of ON whey double chocolate flavour. should i continue using this to use another brand ?
any recommendation ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 14 2011, 10:07 PM)
I am about to finish a tub of ON whey double chocolate flavour. should i continue using this to use another brand ?
any recommendation ?
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wat do u think it has done to u?
do u think u have gained something.
your body tells the best story...
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 14 2011, 10:48 PM)
wat do u think it has done to u?
do u think u have gained something.
your body tells the best story...
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just realised abit of improvemnets on my body. If i start using scivation xtend, i still need to consume whey protein right ?
which flavour should i choose ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 14 2011, 10:49 PM)
just realised abit of improvemnets on my body. If i start using scivation xtend, i still need to consume whey protein right ?
which flavour should i choose ?
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Yup you still need protein!

Flavor for whey or xtend?
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Scivation Whey Review (Chocolate)
Surprising no one put up a review of this cheap whey, guess i'll do the honours, ala bb.com.

Taste
In water : I usually mix one scoop in 4oz of water, the taste is OK, like a watered down milo, it's thick as well.
In milk : I got to say, in milk, scivation whey is in a whole different class, it's thick, and the chocolate taste is very rich as well, like a milkshake.

Mixability
I have no idea how people say they can stir their whey, i usually toss everything in my bottle and shake it up, takes only a few shakes to mix it properly, no clumps whatsoever.

Price
WPC, 22g of protein in a 28g serving, i got 10lbs for RM255, you simply cannot beat that price. The closest competitor i can find is 4rings pure whey.

Versatility
The powder is very very fine, and sometimes when i scoop it, it will just float everywhere. Currently using it for pancakes, 2 eggs + one scoop and wham you've got 30g of protein with minimal carbs. Tried nuking it in the microwave with pb before, didn't quite like the texture. I used to make sludge with it, add some milk, oats , pb and freeze it for 10 minutes or so, and you'll get a decent snack.

Performance
With Scivation whey, i am able to boost my performance to levels that i've never dreamed of ! My strength increased tremendously and i can feel the pump more than ever ! whistling.gif
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i could hardly find it doh.gif
how check if a supplement is not banned or not for OTC? i went to the website of KKM and customs but could not found the list.
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Dymatize Elite Gourmet whey & casein blend - chocolate peanut butter

Taste
nothing like chocolate or peanut butter...
more like vanilla with a dash of chocolate...reminds me of McD vanilla cone...

Mixability
pretty easy to mix,...as long as u don't use cold water

Price
not sure...bought my 5lb tub in singapore...

Versatility
didn't try it for cooking...
powder is very fine...

Results
Dude i prefer this to pure whey blend anytime!!!
i think i'm getting better results from this compare to the ON whey which i was using.
will probably be getting this ONLY(another flavour) after i finished my tub of ON.
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Anybody here buy supps here, be it in tubs or pills, to Singapore? Any issues? Am going to work there so I'm wondering.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 15 2011, 11:42 AM)
Yup you still need protein!

Flavor for whey or xtend?
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flavour for xtend bro
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I prefer the Orange flavor,others taste more artificial!
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watermelon is always the best seller for xtend!
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 15 2011, 08:01 PM)
watermelon is always the best seller for xtend!
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yeah, couldnt agree more. xtend watermelon so tasty, but not so the lime, lemonade and orange flavor.
or mayb it's because my tongue dislike that flavor...even superpump,xplode,sizeon and other citrus flavor supplements taste chemical,artificial and weird except for jack3d lime tongue.gif
gonna try xtend apple next.

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btw, guys, what the benefits of taking xtend ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 16 2011, 10:25 AM)
btw, guys, what the benefits of taking xtend ?
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Endurance is superb.


I was taking apple flav, get really fade up with the taste aft the large tube lol
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superpump max blue raspberry rocks... still in energy eventho iv finished my daily workout routine.. and still able to do d laundry n cook dinner straight after gym...

wont recommend it for those who workout at night.. or ul hav sleeping problem.. just cant keep ur eyes shut...
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QUOTE(tobyant @ Apr 16 2011, 06:04 PM)
superpump max blue raspberry rocks... still in energy eventho iv finished my daily workout routine.. and still able to do d laundry n cook dinner straight after gym...

wont recommend it for those who workout at night.. or ul hav sleeping problem.. just cant keep ur eyes shut...
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i use it at night workout.. so far ok lor.. always sleep punctual
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some ppl are sensitive to caffeine.
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Apr 16 2011, 03:11 AM)
yeah, couldnt agree more. xtend watermelon so tasty, but not so the lime, lemonade and orange flavor.
or mayb it's because my tongue dislike that flavor...even superpump,xplode,sizeon and other citrus flavor supplements taste chemical,artificial and weird except for jack3d lime  tongue.gif
gonna try xtend apple next.
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QUOTE(jamis @ Apr 16 2011, 11:22 AM)
Endurance is superb.
I was taking apple flav, get really fade up with the taste aft the large tube lol
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im taking d apple n i love it
altho d smell of d powder can sometimes b overpowering

its finishing really quick
plan to get blueberry after this
any comments?

also thnks to darklite, jamis n pedro, i fell in love with myofusion (altho i got cooki n krim) n its d best tasting protein ever
everyday cant wait to consume dis thing
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 16 2011, 07:19 PM)
im taking d apple n i love it
altho d smell of d powder can sometimes b overpowering

its finishing really quick
plan to get blueberry after this
any comments?

also thnks to darklite, jamis n pedro, i fell in love with myofusion (altho i got cooki n krim) n its d best tasting protein ever
everyday cant wait to consume dis thing
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i'm not aware xtend has blueberry flav, if u meant rasp then my comment is it's quite sour.
watermelon has a perfume smell to it, it tastes nice, smells nice too.

for myofusion, pls try milk choc. u'll b blown away.
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Apr 16 2011, 07:09 PM)
i use it at night workout.. so far ok lor.. always sleep punctual
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erm... good for u.. but for me.. if i do night workout i would finish at 9..then i get into bed b4 11pm... will still be wide awake at 12.. lol..

QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 16 2011, 07:15 PM)
some ppl are sensitive to caffeine.
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i think im one of em... lol

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wow, you guys weren't kidding about myofusion being thick..
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hey guys, anyone knows where i can get scivation xtend ? i have tried several places and couldnt find it.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 17 2011, 12:16 PM)
wow, you guys weren't kidding about myofusion being thick..
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 17 2011, 05:35 PM)
hey guys, anyone knows where i can get scivation xtend ? i have tried several places and couldnt find it.
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Some sellers on LYN stock it, as well as Egonutritions in certain shopping malls.

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You'll get used to it. After that, there's no turnin' back.


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Some sellers on LYN stock it, as well as Egonutritions in certain shopping malls.
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yea man. real big difference from the ON whey. nowadays i still can wait a while more until i take a PWO meal. last time with ON even with double servings i still need to eat almost immediately afterwards
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 16 2011, 07:19 PM)
im taking d apple n i love it
altho d smell of d powder can sometimes b overpowering

its finishing really quick
plan to get blueberry after this
any comments?

also thnks to darklite, jamis n pedro, i fell in love with myofusion (altho i got cooki n krim) n its d best tasting protein ever
everyday cant wait to consume dis thing
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u should thank pedro and dark, i have not try it by myself except the milk and egg lol.

no idea bro, my current bottle is my first attempt to xtend, dont really know much abt others. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 17 2011, 11:38 PM)
You'll get used to it. After that, there's no turnin' back.


Added on April 17, 2011, 11:41 pm

Some sellers on LYN stock it, as well as Egonutritions in certain shopping malls.
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which mall is this egonutrition in ?
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google dear, google...
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Anybody here buy supps here, be it in tubs or pills, to Singapore? Any issues? Am going to work there so I'm wondering.
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i buy from sng cos it's cheaper...
check fitlion...they do free delivery above sgd40 i think...
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QUOTE(ijnek @ Apr 18 2011, 04:03 PM)
i buy from sng cos it's cheaper...
check fitlion...they do free delivery above sgd40 i think...
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Thanks, mate. Also, the gym there is cheap. Too bad I'll be staying half way the other side of SG. Dayum.
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nvr tried the gym...but the sups r pretty cheap.
and with the free delivery, no need to spend time travellin.
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anyone here has experience with waxy maize starch?
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QUOTE(Darah Harimau @ Apr 19 2011, 11:21 PM)
anyone here has experience with waxy maize starch?
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MHP dark matter contains that and its pretty darn good!
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guys, i have a question here.
now im taking ON whey only, im planning to get more supplements but i dono what to take for a beginner body builder like me(been working out for 5months) . anyone advice(reason and brand) pls? looking for a fast and efficient products to build up my body and also to gain MORE lean mass ( only 64 kg).


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i'm new myself. around a year of lifting.
these are the supps i take.

multivits - go for sports multis like animal pak, anavites, ect
protein - on whey / myofusion / muscle infusion ( currently using )
cretaine - creatine monohydrate for increased atp. ( energy)
pre workout - superpum250 ( just started using )
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Let me share some of the supplement rule during ON seminar today
Rule no 1: Get a good Multivitamin to ensure optimum uptake of you food/ protien shake.
Rule no 2: Get fact acting protein for post workout.
Rule no 3: Sip BCAA / Amino tru out the day.
Rule no 4: Don't go to sleep with empty stomach, Casien for before sleep.


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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 20 2011, 05:23 AM)
MHP dark matter contains that and its pretty darn good!
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 20 2011, 09:55 AM)
guys, i have a question here.
now im taking ON whey only, im planning to get more supplements but i dono what to take for a beginner body builder like me(been working out for 5months) . anyone advice(reason and brand)  pls? looking for a fast and efficient products to build up my body and also to gain MORE lean mass ( only 64 kg).
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most of us get the knowledge from online articles tbh. Google and bodybuilding.com are great helpers.
ON whey is probably beginner's favourite product coz it's cheap.
and it's hard to also say which brand is better than the rest coz different ppl have different review to it (it also comes from reading as well).
there's no fast way of gaining muscles unless u have the genetic for it. Most of us take years.


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Muahahaaha,getting my Orange triad and Animal pump soon!
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Could anyone recommend me any good + importantly, cheap multivit? I've just been taking vit c capsules (500mg) and nothing else. Don't have much money to buy rm7 worth of multivit a day.
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Could anyone recommend me any good + importantly, cheap multivit? I've just been taking vit c capsules (500mg) and nothing else. Don't have much money to buy rm7 worth of multivit a day.
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Could anyone recommend me any good + importantly, cheap multivit? I've just been taking vit c capsules (500mg) and nothing else. Don't have much money to buy rm7 worth of multivit a day.
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Optimen. Animal Pak is kinda expensive but u get wat u pay for from it.
Orange triad is not bad also but not sure where to get since egonutrition has discontinued it.
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QUOTE(winkybear @ Apr 21 2011, 01:48 PM)
Could anyone recommend me any good + importantly, cheap multivit? I've just been taking vit c capsules (500mg) and nothing else. Don't have much money to buy rm7 worth of multivit a day.
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no offence nut supps from GNC are way too expensive... try any pharmacy or watsons or guardian.. look for 21st century products.. can get as low as RM 1 a day or 30 caps for RM29.90
i recommend u any multivitamins and BCAA
check this out: http://www.21stcentury.com.my/
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QUOTE(winkybear @ Apr 21 2011, 01:48 PM)
Could anyone recommend me any good + importantly, cheap multivit? I've just been taking vit c capsules (500mg) and nothing else. Don't have much money to buy rm7 worth of multivit a day.
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ON OPTIMEN! it's more than ur ordinary multivits...got all these amino, phyto, viri, enzy, opti blend
cheaper and u dont have to swallow excessive amount of pills like animal pak sweat.gif


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today pre-workout cocktail
jack3d watermelon + xtend lemonade = limitless energy
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 20 2011, 01:38 PM)
most of us get the knowledge from online articles tbh. Google and bodybuilding.com are great helpers.
ON whey is probably beginner's favourite product coz it's cheap.
and it's hard to also say which brand is better than the rest coz different ppl have different review to it (it also comes from reading as well).
there's no fast way of gaining muscles unless u have the genetic for it. Most of us take years.
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is the bcaa, creatine, L-glutamine are necessary ? need advice..
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 22 2011, 12:35 AM)
is the bcaa, creatine, L-glutamine are necessary ? need advice..
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i personally believe creatine is a must beside protein.
bcaa, l-glutamine can try once u become more advance and experienced, else just get a protein ...bcaa n glutamine in whey protein wud b enough for beginner
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so what are the brands for creatine would give the best effect among the ppl?
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I just ordered ON optimen. Cant wait to try it out smile.gif
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I just ordered ON optimen. Cant wait to try it out smile.gif
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its good but will make your pee yellowish..LOL...
but i think all this mega multivits the same, Orange Triad, Anavite, Optimen all make my urine like tht.


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hey guys, i need some advise.. im new to whey protein.. i just got my self nitro tech pro series.. now on the packing it says 1 scoop.. erm roughly how much is 1 scoop? and it says to mix with 4oz of water.. seems very lilttle.. what if i add more water??
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QUOTE(scoupe @ Apr 22 2011, 09:17 AM)
hey guys, i need some advise.. im new to whey protein.. i just got my self nitro tech pro series.. now on the packing it says 1 scoop.. erm roughly how much is 1 scoop? and it says to mix with 4oz of water.. seems very lilttle.. what if i add more water??
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The scoop is provided inside,use chopsticks to find it!

Water is not an issue,put as much as you like!
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u dont get the scoop in your tub? I think every new tub got their own scoop..
try to 'korek2' in the tub..
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 22 2011, 09:39 AM)
The scoop is provided inside,use chopsticks to find it!

Water is not an issue,put as much as you like!
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The first time i bought myo also like that, almost finish only found inside got scoop. Hehehe.
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i always use my old scoop for new tub. nvr bother to dig.
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ahaha, so there is a scoop in there somewhere.. smile.gif will dig for it when i get back home.. thanks for clearing up the water thingy.. hope to see an improvement in results from training hard and using whey...
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I'm trying out Animal Rage now since I ran out of White Flood. Can you believe it when I say that a full scoop is too much for even stim tolerant individuals like me? Madness.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 22 2011, 03:37 PM)
I'm trying out Animal Rage now since I ran out of White Flood. Can you believe it when I say that a full scoop is too much for even stim tolerant individuals like me? Madness.
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bought it already, not yet tried.

tell me about the taste please...
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Whoa am glad that's on my list,went a bit overboard on Animal products recently!
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guys whats the function of Scivation Xtend ? is it the same with superpump250?
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 22 2011, 06:45 PM)
guys whats the function of Scivation Xtend ? is it the same with superpump250?
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Superpump - Preworkout

Xtend - Intra workout

Different!
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QUOTE(revolter @ Apr 22 2011, 09:48 AM)
u dont get the scoop in your tub? I think every new tub got their own scoop..
try to 'korek2' in the tub..
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Hey Revolter..nice pic.. who is it??
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 22 2011, 06:54 PM)
Superpump - Preworkout

Xtend - Intra workout

Different!
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after taking superpump250 with creatine for pre workout can i consume xtend during the workout since the function like the same only also give a pump during workout.
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Yes u can. Just remember to drink alot of water
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Ultimate nutrition Pornstar Prostar whey tastes baaad!
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but pornstar tastes goooooddddd!!

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 23 2011, 08:50 AM)
Yes u can. Just remember to drink alot of water
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if that necessary to take both together? or maybe take either superpump with creatine or xtend?
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 23 2011, 11:24 AM)
if that necessary to take both together? or maybe take either superpump with creatine or xtend?
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Not necessary but Xtend helps a lot during the workout as you get a constant flow of energy!
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 23 2011, 11:25 AM)
Not necessary but Xtend helps a lot during the workout as you get a constant flow of energy!
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ok, so now here is my plan for supplement

pre-workout :dymatize creatine with ON whey
intra : Xtend
postworkout : (need recommendation )

other supplement : Bcaa stack


Added on April 23, 2011, 11:34 ambtw, xtend what flavour nice ah? the seller run out of stock for watermelon flavour.

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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 23 2011, 11:33 AM)
ok, so now here is my plan for supplement

pre-workout  :dymatize creatine with ON whey
intra : Xtend
postworkout : (need recommendation )

other supplement : Bcaa stack


Added on April 23, 2011, 11:34 ambtw, xtend what flavour nice ah? the seller run out of stock for watermelon flavour.
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pre-workout :Superpump/Black powder/White flood/Animal rage
intra : Xtend
postworkout : MHP Dark matter

I like orange!
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i tried muscle infusion pancakes.

3 eggs + 2 scoops m.infusion + oats + lilbit of water.

its really good!!

definitely my new main menu on breakfast!
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 23 2011, 11:51 AM)
pre-workout  :Superpump/Black powder/White flood/Animal rage
intra : Xtend
postworkout : MHP Dark matter

I like orange!
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btw, how to consume xtend? lets say my workout time is 60 minutes, finish it in a shot or 1oz for every 5minutes?
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 23 2011, 12:39 PM)
btw, how to consume xtend? lets say my workout time is 60 minutes, finish it in a shot or 1oz for every 5minutes?
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sip it in between sets
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 23 2011, 12:39 PM)
btw, how to consume xtend? lets say my workout time is 60 minutes, finish it in a shot or 1oz for every 5minutes?
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yo bro, are you aware of what is inside xtend ?
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Apr 23 2011, 02:17 PM)
yo bro, are you aware of what is inside xtend ?
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No bro, I'm newbie in bb. Why??
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Guys, just a question here, what are ur guys' micro nutrient for pre bed? Vit C & E + fish oil?
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 23 2011, 02:33 PM)
No bro, I'm newbie in bb. Why??
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and you are taking it ? Don't just emulate the big guys here, eating their supplements won't make you as big as them if you don't even educate yourself on what you are eating
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Apr 23 2011, 05:19 PM)
and you are taking it ? Don't just emulate the big guys here, eating their supplements won't make you as big as them if you don't even educate yourself on what you are eating
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ya , im gonna give a try on it. is there any problem with my current supplement plan? any suggestion from u bro? thanks in advance!

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Hey Revolter..nice pic.. who is it??
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Kane Sumabat.. he's body just so awesome.. drool.gif no homo..
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Kane Sumabat.. he's body just so awesome..  drool.gif  no homo..
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For those who take scivation xtend, how many scoops do you guys take intraworkout? 2 scoop already feel so sweet, had to refill bottle many times to dilate the sweetness.
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QUOTE(Darah Harimau @ Apr 26 2011, 12:51 AM)
For those who take scivation xtend, how many scoops do you guys take intraworkout?  2 scoop already feel so sweet, had to refill bottle many times to dilate the sweetness.
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is there a spoon inside the scivation xtend? i just bought mine.
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Yup...there is a scoop there...smaller than breeze scope..
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QUOTE(dante21 @ Apr 26 2011, 04:36 PM)
Yup...there is a scoop there...smaller than breeze scope..
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finally i found it ><
how bout the ultimate nutrition creatine monohydrate? i don see any scoop inside ><
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 26 2011, 03:55 PM)
is there a spoon inside the scivation xtend? i just bought mine.
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where did you buy your xtend from ?
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Apr 26 2011, 04:54 PM)
finally i found it ><
how bout the ultimate nutrition creatine monohydrate? i don see any scoop inside ><
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most creatine product doesnt include scoop inside it... but if u refer to d label i think it says 5gram or 1 teaspoon..
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guys, about the creatine, do i have to consume daily or before and after workout only? how many grams a day if have to consume daily ?
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for creatine normally its 5 gram per day = 1 teaspoon. u can choose to take it before or after workout as both way have their own advantages
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QUOTE(dante21 @ Apr 27 2011, 11:58 PM)
for creatine normally its 5 gram per day = 1 teaspoon. u can choose to take it before or after workout as both way have their own advantages
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how bout non workout days?
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for me i take everyday..non and workout day...but remember to drink plenty of water
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QUOTE(dante21 @ Apr 28 2011, 09:30 AM)
for me i take everyday..non and workout day...but remember to drink plenty of water
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I take it every day as well with breakfast, regardless if I train or not. And, yes, drinks loads of water.
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Fitnesspro Super Whey Vanilla.
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Super Whey is an advanced protein blend combined with amino acids, vitamins, and minerals that is used in order to work up to a maximum level of muscle performance.

Taste
Sweet Vanilla. Altho its sugar free, still sweet like a candy.

Mixability

Mix well but produce alot of foam.

Price
10lbs for RM290. Pretty good price

Performance
Surprisingly It's work. Giving me the definition that i looking for, break my plateau, increase my strength and my recovery seem to be fast.
I Feel a bit heatty on my body.

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guys i need some advise..

i weight about 67 kgs height is about 5'8".. here is the thing i used to workout alot back in uni days, and whack anything when it comes to food.. ended up strong but flabby stomach.. now i wanna look at watching my food.. i have reduced my stomach and overall size.. now im weight training again.. but i dun wanna get a huge belly, so this is what im eating now..

breakfast: peanut butter and bread..
bout 10 am: high fiber biscuits
lunch: what ever i can get as food is an issue here.. somedays i get turkey sandwich or subway..
bout 4 pm: high fiber biscuits or bread and peanut butter
then dinner what ever i can get plus protein powder..

well i know lots of things are lacking in my diet, i dun need a superb sculpted body but need to be able to gain size and strength minus the belly.. plus is there anything u guys can recommend to have before workouts? something simple as obtaining anything here is difficult.. or should i have my protein powder before workout instead of after?

real noob when it comes to eating right..
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QUOTE(scoupe @ Apr 28 2011, 12:49 PM)
guys i need some advise..

i weight about 67 kgs height is about 5'8".. here is the thing i used to workout alot back in uni days, and whack anything when it comes to food.. ended up strong but flabby stomach.. now i wanna look at watching my food.. i have reduced my stomach and overall size.. now im weight training again.. but i dun wanna get a huge belly, so this is what im eating now..

breakfast: peanut butter and bread..
bout 10 am: high fiber biscuits
lunch: what ever i can get as food is an issue here.. somedays i get turkey sandwich or subway..
bout 4 pm: high fiber biscuits or bread and peanut butter
then dinner what ever i can get plus protein powder..

well i know lots of things are lacking in my diet, i dun need a superb sculpted body but need to be able to gain size and strength minus the belly.. plus is there anything u guys can recommend to have before workouts? something simple as obtaining anything here is difficult.. or should i have my protein powder before workout instead of after?

real noob when it comes to eating right..
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hahahahhaha... so u think i should just whack the food? i mean i used to be a big eater.. but it all went to the waist line.. hehehe.. hence the spare tire..
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Finally, got my scivation xtend orange flavour. got to say asomething about it, its really sweet.
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Finally, got my scivation xtend orange flavour. got to say asomething about it, its really sweet.
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mix with plenty of water!
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Follow the instruction. If not wrong for men, 4 scoops. If u r a beginner try with 2-3 servings n see how it goes.
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user posted image

It's believe that's this is the fake protein of Gaspari Myofusion.The CAP is different. Still under investigation. Guy's be carefull. Always check the lot number at the bottom of the bottle
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OH SHI...

Mine looks like that and the old tub has nothing written on top

How to check lot number?

Its written there but how to check if its fake?
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arekey;

got pic of the bottom?
is the label print quality? faded, off color?
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hi...i'm new here. smile.gif

I had email Gaspari Nutrition the photo that arekey shared. And this is their reply.

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So to check whether it is legit, the only way is to send them the lot number.
But my lot number is unclear, unreadable.
Gaspari Nutrition then request me to take a picture of my lot number and send back to them.

I'm still waiting for their reply. Will keep you guys update smile.gif
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I just emailed them my lot number to check!
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how come i cant see the photo from arekey?
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where is the lot number on the bottle?is it the black ink printed at the bottom?

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Yep!

Just above expiry date!
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i just sent gaspari the same thing also
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oi someone repost the pic from arekey!!! cant see here
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How much is a bottle of orange triad 270 tablets ? They are selling for like $26 on amazon
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any update guys?
i believe the logo on the cap is the newer batch, still i mayb wrong...
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i dunno, my tub looks kinda authentic, even with the cap is exactly like arekeys picture. if its indeed fake this is gonna be large scale imo! can those who emailed your product codes let us know if its fake or not. until then i'm just gonna assume mine is okay
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So Gaspari had request me to send them the lot number.
But my lot number on the tub is unclear, unreadable. I emailed gaspari about it and then they ask me 2 take a photo of the lot number and send it to them.
I also took a photo of the powder and showed to them.
So this is their reply.

It is very hard to compare lot numbers. But from what I CAN see the lot number you have on that is almost identical to the lots we have. The powder looks a yellowish tint but in fact it is a very light pink. When you add it to water or milk the product should change to reddish pink (strawberry flavor)


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Well, I replied them to say thank you. And then they send me another reply which I think is quite important.

No problem that is what we are here for. A big problem we are getting is that we have just recently switched our lids from the plain back to the lid with the Gaspari logo on it…this is actually to help with preventing counterfeit products from being made. But there are a whole bunch of our products still with the old lids causing a lot of people to ask questions about authenticity. Good luck and enjoy!

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QUOTE(mcbarney666 @ Apr 28 2011, 10:41 AM)
+1

I take it every day as well with breakfast, regardless if I train or not. And, yes, drinks loads of water.
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this is how i consume recently, before and after workout 5g per serving. non workout day = no

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Gaspari replied!

The lot# checks out,its legit!
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with all the worries over, who says there's fake myofusion out there anyway? i mean y the fuss in the 1st place?
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 30 2011, 07:34 AM)
with all the worries over, who says there's fake myofusion out there anyway? i mean y the fuss in the 1st place?
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 30 2011, 08:34 AM)
with all the worries over, who says there's fake myofusion out there anyway? i mean y the fuss in the 1st place?
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Look at the Gaspari Reply for kckckccc

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preventing counterfeit products from being made.


Means there is the fake protein. I now know who the seller is. Now he become famous in the facebook.
Selling Fake myofusion chocolate but white powder.

So if you guy should know that you're buying from genuine seller, keep it that way.

Every protein, fat burner, N.O and other BB supplement has 1 thing in common which is Lot Number. Use this lot number and check with gaspari, muscletech,nutrex, etc2... and be careful with seller that sell at the price of roti canai. The fake protein will not have lot number or being erase or blur or half printed or have wrong combination.

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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:05 AM)
I am.
Look at the Gaspari Reply for kckckccc
Means there is the fake protein. I now know who the seller is. Now he become famous in the facebook.
Selling Fake myofusion chocolate but white powder.

So if you guy should know that you're buying from genuine seller, keep it that way.

Every protein, fat burner, N.O and other BB supplement has 1 thing in common which is Lot Number. Use this lot number  and check with gaspari, muscletech,nutrex, etc2... and be careful with seller that sell at the price of roti canai. The fake protein will not have lot number or being erase or blur or half printed  or have wrong combination.
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do you mind telling us who this seller is, so we dont fall into his trap? Thanks
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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:05 AM)
I am.
Look at the Gaspari Reply for kckckccc
Means there is the fake protein. I now know who the seller is. Now he become famous in the facebook.
Selling Fake myofusion chocolate but white powder.

So if you guy should know that you're buying from genuine seller, keep it that way.

Every protein, fat burner, N.O and other BB supplement has 1 thing in common which is Lot Number. Use this lot number  and check with gaspari, muscletech,nutrex, etc2... and be careful with seller that sell at the price of roti canai. The fake protein will not have lot number or being erase or blur or half printed  or have wrong combination.
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pls tell us who the selle is.. if he is active in FB, then tell us wat his name... TQ Very Much...
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do you mind telling us who this seller is, so we dont fall into his trap? Thanks
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Nope.

However you can ask for yourself to this fella. They are receiving complain regards to this matter.

Bodybuilder Shop M'sia
Kedai Jual Ubat Otot

Add them in your facebook.

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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:28 AM)
Nope.

However you can ask for yourself to this fella. They are receiving complain regards to this matter.

Bodybuilder Shop M'sia
Kedai Jual Ubat Otot

Add them in your facebook.
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thanks bro... really appreciate it...but how u know they're selling counterfeits...??
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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:05 AM)
I am.
Look at the Gaspari Reply for kckckccc
Means there is the fake protein. I now know who the seller is. Now he become famous in the facebook.
Selling Fake myofusion chocolate but white powder.

So if you guy should know that you're buying from genuine seller, keep it that way.

Every protein, fat burner, N.O and other BB supplement has 1 thing in common which is Lot Number. Use this lot number  and check with gaspari, muscletech,nutrex, etc2... and be careful with seller that sell at the price of roti canai. The fake protein will not have lot number or being erase or blur or half printed  or have wrong combination.
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how much r they selling their myofusion btw, not tat i want to buy tongue.gif

QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:28 AM)
Nope.

However you can ask for yourself to this fella. They are receiving complain regards to this matter.

Bodybuilder Shop M'sia
Kedai Jual Ubat Otot

Add them in your facebook.
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the photo of the guy from Kedai Jual Ubat Otot is damn familiar, i suspect he's one of the sellers here...

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QUOTE(tobyant @ Apr 30 2011, 11:41 AM)
thanks bro... really appreciate it...but how u know they're selling counterfeits...??
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You mean who selling the counterfeits?

Like i said, some of their customer happen to buy the myofusion chocolate (from the culprit) but it's white color.
Then send photo and ask why the product different. then they know.

This 2 fella teach their customer how to spot the imitation product.

Now i'm sharing the info with you all.


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how much r they selling their myofusion btw, not tat i want to buy tongue.gif
the photo of the guy from Kedai Jual Ubat Otot is damn familiar, i suspect he's one of the sellers here...
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Indeed one of the pic is the similar to the avatar of the seller in lowyat forum
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That myofusion doesn't look fake really. That's the new packaging with the Gaspari logo on the cap because SuperPump Max has it as well. Hope that helps.

Can't comment on why it contains white powder though.
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haha if they really fake stuff at least find some logic with it...
milk choc powder is white?
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My myofusion is out. Temporarily going on BSN's Syntha-6 from next week onwards. Will report back after trying it out.

Any previous Syntha-6 users? Reviews?
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QUOTE(razorboy @ May 1 2011, 07:14 PM)
My myofusion is out. Temporarily going on BSN's Syntha-6 from next week onwards. Will report back after trying it out.

Any previous Syntha-6 users? Reviews?
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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:28 AM)
Nope.

However you can ask for yourself to this fella. They are receiving complain regards to this matter.

Bodybuilder Shop M'sia
Kedai Jual Ubat Otot

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i know that page
that guy claimed he from harvard
hahaahaha
buy from ejinutrition lah
i checked their lot number for gaspari
all legit
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Wait wait...i think there is a misunderstanding...
What arekey said is that both Bodybuilder Shop M'sia & Kedai Jual Ubat Otot know who are selling fake myofusion, not both of them selling fake myofusion.
I bought my supplements from both of them before, they are legit.
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Guys learn to read thoroughly. Kedai Jual Ubat Otot is a very very reliable seller. He KNOWS info about the fake seller, but Ubat Otot sells LEGIT stuff!
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IM kedai jual ubat otot.. u guys are mistaken, its not me who sell the fake myofusion. its my customer *asyraf ramli* (name in FB) who received fake myofusion from one of the seller.. with a GREY CAP, AND WHITE POWDER WHICH IS TASTELESS.. he PMed me in facebook because he wants to clarify with me. thats all.


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how much r they selling their myofusion btw, not tat i want to buy tongue.gif
the photo of the guy from Kedai Jual Ubat Otot is damn familiar, i suspect he's one of the sellers here...
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YES, im one of the seller here smile.gif

and gaspari explained that the picture earlier (black caps with gaspari nutrition logo) is the real deal. its the latest myo hydro stock.


the one that is really fake is the one with GREY penutup. that is confirmed fake. but baru seorang yang complaint to get that kind of myo. he is *asyraf ramli* from facebook. who can ask him directly where he get that fake one. i cant tell u here, its not ethical.


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i know that page
that guy claimed he from harvard
hahaahaha
buy from ejinutrition lah
i checked their lot number for gaspari
all legit
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who from harvard?


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Guys learn to read thoroughly. Kedai Jual Ubat Otot is a very very reliable seller. He KNOWS info about the fake seller, but Ubat Otot sells LEGIT stuff!
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thanx bro!!

il give u bestest price u can never get anywhere!

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Haha kesian u obat otot.. hope evrybody understand now..

now back to our topic-supplement review...

iv used Gaspari Superpump before but didnt noticed anything.. but i continued using it since i bought it anyway... after iv finished it, all my workout sucks.. i get tired easily n fatigue most of d time.. now i realized Superpump's power... cant wait to get my new tub!!
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QUOTE(tobyant @ May 2 2011, 08:46 AM)
Haha kesian u obat otot.. hope evrybody understand now..

now back to our topic-supplement review...

iv used Gaspari  Superpump before but didnt noticed anything.. but i continued using it since i bought it anyway... after iv finished it, all my workout sucks.. i get tired easily n fatigue most of d time.. now i realized Superpump's power... cant wait to get my new tub!!
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your workout sucks and you wanna get another tub? rclxub.gif
or you are saying you wanna try another brand?
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your workout sucks and you wanna get another tub? rclxub.gif
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He's saying without SP, his workout sucked. Hence he will get back to getting another SP.

Had to read his post twice to get it.
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QUOTE(arekey @ Apr 30 2011, 10:28 AM)
Nope.

However you can ask for yourself to this fella. They are receiving complain regards to this matter.

Bodybuilder Shop M'sia
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 2 2011, 12:31 AM)
Guys learn to read thoroughly. Kedai Jual Ubat Otot is a very very reliable seller. He KNOWS info about the fake seller, but Ubat Otot sells LEGIT stuff!
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we do not know who kedai jual ubat otot is so based on arekey's comments, it's logical to think they r the ones involved. it's not about reading thoroughly bro...

now tat he's come out to clear the air, it's good we r all aware who the real culprit is.

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nah... wat i meant was... since i finished my superpump, my workout sucks.. i didnt realized d effect wen i was on it.. but now dat i finished it, then i know all d energy i was felling b4 this came from d superpump..smile.gif
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alang-alang im inside this thread, why not i share what ive tried... smile.gif


Superpump max - no jitter, maximum strength

Hemorage ultra - got jitter, focus, not maximum strength

Jack3d - can feel the blood rush but cant feel the pump

a.p.i rocked - 1st dose kaw kaw naik kepala n give focus n strength..(have not finished)

Purple wrath - like jack3d..

N.o - explode - waste of money (but i know ppl who loves this supp)

Nano Vapor - never tried tongue.gif

All i can say is, all supplements react differently to the user's body smile.gif This is how it react to mine smile.gif


Added on May 2, 2011, 2:28 pmOn the protien blends category:

Syntha 6 - taste good, good result, but only 22g protien per servings n 56 servings.. so, if compared to Myofusion hydro (closest rival), u lose 3g protien per serving, and (63-56=7) 7 servings.. which means:

(3 x 56 = 168) + (7 x 25 = 175) =

168 + 175 = 343g protien difference per tub. thats alot!


Myofusion hydro - there are hundreds of testimonies from the users of this supp, in my FB.. most of them compliment kaw2 on the taste..n it does work wonder smile.gif


Muscle infusion black - serving wise, Choc - 60 serv, Cookies n Cream 62 serv, Vanilla - 65 serv.. the catch here is, choc taste the best.. i cant swallow cookies myself... vanila is... ermmm.................
The result, marvelous!!! Almost everybody will experience cirit birit with this protien, IDK why but it does work on moulding d muscles!


Super quad - economical protien blends... taste is so so, result is 7/10 smile.gif



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im 16 this year.. height 170 cm .. weight 53 kg.. what protein should i take to have bigger muscles? workout thrice a week . thanks
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im 16 this year.. height 170 cm .. weight 53 kg.. what protein should i take to have bigger muscles?  workout thrice a week . thanks
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A chicken or two a day would be a good place to start.
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hahaha .just a chicken or two a day good enough ? should i take any whey protein or smth like that?
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Try fixing up your diet before considering supps. You're still fairly young. A lot of potential for growth even without supps. For now
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hahaha .just a chicken or two a day good enough ? should i take any whey protein or smth like that?
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If I'm not wrong he meant one whole chicken or two. Not one or two pieces of chicken.

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okok .. thanks.. means i should eat more protein food like chicken ?? cause i seldom eat chicken -.-


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If I'm not wrong he meant one whole chicken or two. Not one or two pieces of chicken.
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QUOTE(fiona003 @ May 2 2011, 03:16 PM)
okok .. thanks.. means i should eat more protein food like chicken ?? cause i seldom eat chicken -.-
okok .thanks =D
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try to go for the lean body parts, chicken breasts.

It's not just chicken. you can get lean steaks, turkeys. etc etc.

try not to depend on supplementation too much at your age. You're still very young and you have a lot of room to grow before the need for supplementation.
As the word meant, supplementation, is to supplement what you're lacking, not to replace.

so,

EAT rclxms.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(razorboy @ May 2 2011, 03:49 PM)
try to go for the lean body parts, chicken breasts.

It's not just chicken. you can get lean steaks, turkeys. etc etc.

try not to depend on supplementation too much at your age. You're still very young and you have a lot of room to grow before the need for supplementation.
As the word meant, supplementation, is to supplement what you're lacking, not to replace.

so,

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QUOTE(kckckccc @ May 2 2011, 01:27 AM)
Wait wait...i think there is a misunderstanding...
What arekey said is that both Bodybuilder Shop M'sia & Kedai Jual Ubat Otot know who are selling fake myofusion, not both of them selling fake myofusion.
I bought my supplements from both of them before, they are legit.
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Yup, Not them.
They are selling the ori supplement. and they knew who the culprit.

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Yup, Not them.
They are selling the ori supplement. and they knew who the culprit.
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So btmline is, is the seller in lowyat ?
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QUOTE(BuilderBalls @ May 2 2011, 12:33 AM)

who from harvard?
bukan kao bro
actually there's another fb page
bodybuildershop malaysia claimed he from harvard
aku tak rasa tu kao
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Guys,

have u ever tried Dymatize ISO-100 whey protein...i read the ingridient, it has low card and fat and calories per serving is 106 but protein is 25g..

what do u guys think ??
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Whoever was selling fake supps, his reputation is totally screwed. For good. No one will buy anything from him anymore. Consumers nowadays are a lot smarter and a lot more aware than sellers think. They actually check the seals, serial numbers and even send pictures of the products back to the people who make the product.
I know a lot of online sellers who're non members look into lowyat forums.

For those who've been individuals or integrity, my respect to you. For those who've been secretly selling fake shit, you WILL get discovered and busted sooner or later. It's only a matter of time. We're serious about the supps we take.
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anyone on CNP pro peptide in here? Does anyone knows where to get it from?
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First workout on Animal RAGE!

Focus is there but endurance not so much!

ANIMAL RAGE!

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QUOTE(pedro @ May 8 2011, 10:07 AM)
First workout on Animal RAGE!

Focus is there but endurance not so much!

ANIMAL RAGE!

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so its a no go for you?
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Only took 3/4 scoop,will give it the beans tomorrow and see how!
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pedro, u tried DY NOX? I have like 10 packs left. It's a chug and go thing, but somehow, i thought of just working out without it. Seems to be just fine without it. Don't think I'm gonna chug it down anymore.

btw, back up a few pages, darklight mentioned it was too much for him?

Anyone else with a better pre-w/o? besides Superpump?
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The DY NOX works for me!

Tried Black powder?

Also works damn good for me!

1 scoop is too much for Darkie!
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QUOTE(pedro @ May 8 2011, 05:54 PM)
The DY NOX works for me!

Tried Black powder?

Also works damn good for me!

1 scoop is too much for Darkie!
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Nope. Black powder?

DY NOX is the 1st pre-workout supp I ever bought. Thought of maybe trying out other stuff.

Is animal rage that kik? But you dont seem to have problems with it.
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I'll update here after 1 full scoop tomorrow morning!

Its MRI black powder,reviewed it on first page!

EGO got the samples you can buy for Black Powder,try it!
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QUOTE(pedro @ May 8 2011, 06:23 PM)
I'll update here after 1 full scoop tomorrow morning!

Its MRI black powder,reviewed it on first page!

EGO got the samples you can buy for Black Powder,try it!
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Dammit, no one seems to be selling L-carnitine. Seems that I have no choice but to go over the GNC and get theirs for nearly 200 bucks for 60 tabs.


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You in Ipoh?

No online sellers?
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You in Ipoh?

No online sellers?
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I buy my stuff from REYZAI most of the time. B4 that from Achan and Egonutritions, Pm-ed bata, the only guy I found selling em, out of stock.

No one seems to have them.

And yea, I'm from Ipoh bro. BodyAlignment doesnt have em too. Dammit.
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QUOTE(razorboy @ May 8 2011, 07:09 PM)
Dammit, no one seems to be selling L-carnitine. Seems that I have no choice but to go over the GNC and get theirs for nearly 200 bucks for 60 tabs.
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bro.. u can find l-carnitine in most pharmacy.. also in watson n guardian.. theres so many brands out there.... sometime comes under d name of vitamin BT


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QUOTE(tobyant @ May 8 2011, 07:15 PM)
bro.. u can find l-carnitine in most pharmacy.. also in watson n guardian.. theres so many brands out there.... sometime comes under d name of vitamin BT
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Hmm, currently in Kampar for my final paper 2ml. All right, will take a look when I'm back in Ipoh. Thanks mate.

*Btw, I was keen on Optimum's L-Carnitine. Just fyi. blush.gif

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QUOTE(razorboy @ May 8 2011, 07:16 PM)
Hmm, currently in Kampar for my final paper 2ml. All right, will take a look when I'm back in Ipoh. Thanks mate.

*Btw, I was keen on Optimum's L-Carnitine. Just fyi.  blush.gif
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Optimum eh.. haha.. way too expensive for me.......sad.gif
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QUOTE(tobyant @ May 8 2011, 07:50 PM)
Optimum eh.. haha.. way too expensive for me.......sad.gif
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keen only la bro, thought of switching from animal cut, since I have 2 days left of it
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Dammit, no one seems to be selling L-carnitine. Seems that I have no choice but to go over the GNC and get theirs for nearly 200 bucks for 60 tabs.
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QUOTE(jamis @ May 9 2011, 01:55 PM)
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he seems to be just selling whey. No?

I looked through his topics. cry.gif
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QUOTE(razorboy @ May 9 2011, 07:28 PM)
he seems to be just selling whey. No?

I looked through his topics. cry.gif
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Relax mate. Not having carnitine won't make a huge difference will it?
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he seems to be just selling whey. No?

I looked through his topics. cry.gif
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Relax mate. Not having carnitine won't make a huge difference will it?
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like dark said, it doesn't really make that much different, i only use it when i was in my last month of cutting phase as my weight starts to get idle... most important part is how u control ur diet, tune it bit by bit.

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 9 2011, 09:12 PM)
Relax mate. Not having carnitine won't make a huge difference will it?
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Added on May 9, 2011, 9:19 pm
like dark said, it doesn't really make that much different, i only use it when i was in my last month of cutting phase as my weight starts to get idle... most important part is how u control ur diet, tune it bit by bit.
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yea, i know , am kinda on a program now thats why. sleep.gif. i didnt realize I would run out of it until week 3 into the program sad.gif careless careless me
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Started on my Sizeon max And SP Max this morning, Oh man, infinite endurance and focus! awesome stuff.

As i down my SP Max this morning, my anxiety level shoot up, the only thing in the mind is to hit the iron, great feeling.

As for the intra, Sizeon taste pretty..... below average (again the milky taste) but the endurance it gives is superb, seems like every sip u take it cover up ur fatigue level. Wonderful!

In nutshell:

Sizeon

Taste: 3.9/10 (fruit punch flav)
Pump: 5/10 (average -no vein popping stuff yet)
Endurance: 8/10
Strength: 6/10 (average, boost on my lateral raise- break the plateau

Superpump Max

Taste: 6/10 (Taste good, but a little artificial - Grape flav)
Pump: 5/10 (average)
endurance: May be it does, or it is from sizeon - i give it a 5/10
Focus: 8/10 (good focus, compare to 250, it improves)
strength: 6/10 -- sizeon or sp, not sure but it works!

Bottom line: Worth ur bucks for the stack, Loving it.

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QUOTE(jamis @ May 10 2011, 09:49 AM)
Started on my Sizeon max And SP Max this morning, Oh man, infinite endurance and focus! awesome stuff.

As i down my SP Max this morning, my anxiety level shoot up, the only thing in the mind is to hit the iron, great feeling.

As for the intra, Sizeon taste pretty..... below average (again the milky taste) but the endurance it gives is superb, seems like every sip u take it cover up ur fatigue level. Wonderful!

In nutshell:

Sizeon

Taste: 3.9/10 (fruit punch flav)
Pump: 5/10 (average -no vein popping stuff yet)
Endurance: 8/10
Strength: 6/10 (average, boost on my lateral raise- break the plateau

Superpump Max

Taste: 6/10 (Taste good, but a little artificial - Grape flav)
Pump: 5/10 (average)
endurance: May be it does, or it is from sizeon - i give it a 5/10
Focus: 8/10 (good focus, compare to 250, it improves)
strength: 6/10 -- sizeon or sp, not sure but it works!

Bottom line: Worth ur bucks for the stack, Loving it.
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I have yet to get mine... was wondering if i should try SP250 first or just jump straight to SPMax...
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 10 2011, 01:26 PM)
I have yet to get mine... was wondering if i should try SP250 first or just jump straight to SPMax...
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theres a variance in price too..... but max seems to be stronger than max and for me no diarrhea issue hehe.
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theres a variance in price too..... but max seems to be stronger than max and for me no diarrhea issue hehe.
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you mean max stronger than 250? lol... yea i wondered why the price is higher when in us stores they introduce back the same price... zZZz
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you mean max stronger than 250? lol... yea i wondered why the price is higher when in us stores they introduce back the same price... zZZz
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Marketing hype T.T

Seems to be stronger thou, last time i can feel the pump now i can feel the focus XD
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Hi guys,

anyone using MyoFusion? im on my 2nd tub.. it seems like i putting on weight quite fast.. anyone experiencing this? Currently taking 6 scoop per day..
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 12:44 PM)
Hi guys,

anyone using MyoFusion? im on my 2nd tub.. it seems like i putting on weight quite fast.. anyone experiencing this? Currently taking 6 scoop per day..
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yup me too.. idle and putting on weight.. so i stop to see weight machine number and trust a mirror...
i'm on 2 scoop per day and focus more into solid food..

previously on whey and casein, my weight drop but in term of muscle development, it's too slow..
Advice : stop using weight machine.. and start to look mirror.
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I guess im quite satisfy with what i have now before proceed to conditioning stage.. Just wonder is myofusion really just putting weight just on me or same goes to everyone.

Previously, i was using nutrex nvr face that situation haha..
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 01:18 PM)
I guess im quite satisfy with what i have now before proceed to conditioning stage.. Just wonder is myofusion really just putting weight just on me or same goes to everyone.

Previously, i was using nutrex nvr face that situation haha..
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am just curious 2 tubs last how long for you
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1 tub maybe 2 weeks++ close to 3 weeks if i didnt calculate wrong...
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 12:44 PM)
Hi guys,

anyone using MyoFusion? im on my 2nd tub.. it seems like i putting on weight quite fast.. anyone experiencing this? Currently taking 6 scoop per day..
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i've taken dozen of myofusion.
my weight remains the same though +- 1/2 kg only.
i'm on 3 scoops a day.
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 10 2011, 01:57 PM)
you mean max stronger than 250? lol... yea i wondered why the price is higher when in us stores they introduce back the same price... zZZz
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it should be same price. LOL


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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 01:45 PM)
1 tub maybe 2 weeks++ close to 3 weeks if i didnt calculate wrong...
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With my current expense on solid food. Approx Rm600-750 monthly. And if add-on 2 tubs of Myofusion monthly like you did. I sure declare bankrupt after that. laugh.gif

You're awesome because manage to do it. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 01:45 PM)
1 tub maybe 2 weeks++ close to 3 weeks if i didnt calculate wrong...
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2 weeks...wow..
how many serving per tub ?
your protein source is basically from myofusion?
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myofusion - 63 serving per tub if im not mistaken..

6 serving per day equally to 150g of protein.. so basically maybe quite large source of protein come from myofusion..

btw, im in my 2nd week of stacking superpump max + sizeOn + myofusion.. can feel the different while workout, but need time to see any changes in body appearance..

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I still eat a lot >.<" i mention before this... 2 chicken per day + few more piece of beef... and of course veggie n fruits is there...

i still eat 4-5 meals per day... but currently working, so food wise may have some problem.. tuna in water comes handy... everything expensive T.T
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 04:24 PM)
I still eat a lot >.<" i mention before this... 2 chicken per day + few more piece of beef... and of course veggie n fruits is there...

i still eat 4-5 meals per day... but currently working, so food wise may have some problem.. tuna in water comes handy... everything expensive T.T
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My Myofusion lasts me for 1 month a tub!
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everything about protein, is not cheap.. yawn.gif
have to live with it.. money can find as long we get healthy body
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ May 11 2011, 02:42 PM)
i've taken dozen of myofusion.
my weight remains the same though +- 1/2 kg only.
i'm on 3 scoops a day.
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Most cases is not about how much protein you take, but seriously how hard do you train. Are you really going for your max rep, or are you playing it safe? also how long are you resting between sets. I've seen a lot of guys who jack up with supplements show very little results. Look into your training regime bro. If you're good here, then it could be you're over training as well. Would help if you draw out training schedule for the guys here to rule out the possibilities.

Again and I can't stress it enough. The key to reaching your goals are in quality reps, not quantity reps
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it should be same price. LOL
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everything about protein, is not cheap.. yawn.gif
have to live with it.. money can find as long we get healthy body
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Actually if you seriously do the math. Protein supplement is quite cheap really. I mean that is if you factor out that 1 egg = 5g of protein.
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QUOTE(pedro @ May 11 2011, 04:28 PM)
2 full chicken a day???      ohmy.gif
My Myofusion lasts me for 1 month a tub!
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Yup 2 whole skinless chicken.. Boil it n devour everything hehe...
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everything about protein, is not cheap.. yawn.gif
have to live with it.. money can find as long we get healthy body
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If this was read wrongly. It's sound like a 'gigolo'. sweat.gif

Dharmain, thanks for mentioning that but I saw a lot people in gym was doing with lot reps and heavy weight.
As for me, I can't afford to get Personal Trainer or PT. My only PT is Youtube. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ May 11 2011, 05:19 PM)
If this was read wrongly. It's sound like a 'gigolo'.  sweat.gif

Dharmain, thanks for mentioning that but I saw a lot people in gym was doing with lot reps and heavy weight.
As for me, I can't afford to get Personal Trainer or PT. My only PT is Youtube.  laugh.gif
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Its all about lifting YOUR max rep bro. For example if benching 5kg is your max, then lift that instead. Lifting too heavy will just botch your form entirely or even worse, cause unnecessary injuries. As time passes, you'll gradually get stronger, lift heaver and get bigger. That's how all the big guys here got it. I can honestly tell you that the ones you see with serious results are not EGO lifters & those who lift with their EGO are still hoping and trying to be like the rest of us.

Go slow, listen to your body. You'll know when you're lifting too much. A good rule here is to keep things simple 3 sets (8-12) reps. And of course, don't rest too long between sets either keep it to a max of 30secs. Yep, 30 seconds bro... You'll sweat buckets but most importantly, you'll get stronger. If you can read, then you don't need a PT. Do your reading and you'll be fine. Here's a good site that I'll seriously recommend to everyone:

http://www.simplyshredded.com/

Pretty awesome site indeed. Loaded with good info, good pictures and (ya knoe what I'm gonna say next rite biggrin.gif )
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 11 2011, 05:13 PM)
Yup 2 whole skinless chicken.. Boil it n devour everything hehe...
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it should be same price. LOL
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QUOTE(theCrab @ May 11 2011, 06:26 PM)
how much you spend for 1 chicken lol ..
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one whole chicken erm... depends the market price.. 1kg = 8++ or sometime 9++ so, a chicken sometime is 1kg++

chicken breast 1 kg Rm11 - Rm 13 the aunty said the market price change from time to time wan.. Duno the chicken aunty in the market cheat me or not but still cheaper if buy from the chicken rice stall. One whole chicken might cause RM 30++ . So why don't buy whole chicken and boil it at home to eat. Save some bucks here...

Perhaps dory fish is good as well. 1kg around Rm7. Can get from tesco at my place.

Currently, i don't have place to cook as i move into new place. So, rely on tuna in water and some chicken rice around my office which is costly. One lunch cost around Rm10 sigh.. I try to save but currently cant.
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QUOTE(Dharmain @ May 11 2011, 05:29 PM)
Its all about lifting YOUR max rep bro. For example if benching 5kg is your max, then lift that instead. Lifting too heavy will just botch your form entirely or even worse, cause unnecessary injuries. As time passes, you'll gradually get stronger, lift heaver and get bigger. That's how all the big guys here got it. I can honestly tell you that the ones you see with serious results are not EGO lifters & those who lift with their EGO are still hoping and trying to be like the rest of us.

Go slow, listen to your body. You'll know when you're lifting too much. A good rule here is to keep things simple 3 sets (8-12) reps. And of course, don't rest too long between sets either keep it to a max of 30secs. Yep, 30 seconds bro... You'll sweat buckets but most importantly, you'll get stronger. If you can read, then you don't need a PT. Do your reading and you'll be fine. Here's a good site that I'll seriously recommend to everyone:

http://www.simplyshredded.com/

Pretty awesome site indeed. Loaded with good info, good pictures and (ya knoe what I'm gonna say next rite  biggrin.gif )
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lolwut ? rep ranges and rest time is entirely dependent on your goals. and if 5kg was my max, how can i lift it more than once ?
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QUOTE(Dharmain @ May 11 2011, 05:29 PM)
Its all about lifting YOUR max rep bro. For example if benching 5kg is your max, then lift that instead. Lifting too heavy will just botch your form entirely or even worse, cause unnecessary injuries. As time passes, you'll gradually get stronger, lift heaver and get bigger. That's how all the big guys here got it. I can honestly tell you that the ones you see with serious results are not EGO lifters & those who lift with their EGO are still hoping and trying to be like the rest of us.

Go slow, listen to your body. You'll know when you're lifting too much. A good rule here is to keep things simple 3 sets (8-12) reps. And of course, don't rest too long between sets either keep it to a max of 30secs. Yep, 30 seconds bro... You'll sweat buckets but most importantly, you'll get stronger. If you can read, then you don't need a PT. Do your reading and you'll be fine. Here's a good site that I'll seriously recommend to everyone:

http://www.simplyshredded.com/

Pretty awesome site indeed. Loaded with good info, good pictures and (ya knoe what I'm gonna say next rite  biggrin.gif )
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I deadlift over 450 pounds, no joke cos some LYN members seen it. You telling me to rest 30 secs max then do another set? I chop you up boss.
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QUOTE(Dharmain @ May 11 2011, 05:29 PM)
Its all about lifting YOUR max rep bro. For example if benching 5kg is your max, then lift that instead. Lifting too heavy will just botch your form entirely or even worse, cause unnecessary injuries. As time passes, you'll gradually get stronger, lift heaver and get bigger. That's how all the big guys here got it. I can honestly tell you that the ones you see with serious results are not EGO lifters & those who lift with their EGO are still hoping and trying to be like the rest of us.

Go slow, listen to your body. You'll know when you're lifting too much. A good rule here is to keep things simple 3 sets (8-12) reps. And of course, don't rest too long between sets either keep it to a max of 30secs. Yep, 30 seconds bro... You'll sweat buckets but most importantly, you'll get stronger. If you can read, then you don't need a PT. Do your reading and you'll be fine. Here's a good site that I'll seriously recommend to everyone:

http://www.simplyshredded.com/

Pretty awesome site indeed. Loaded with good info, good pictures and (ya knoe what I'm gonna say next rite  biggrin.gif )
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think ur d one whos got EGO problem n trying to show off wat u know here in LYN...u dont even understand his problem... he's trying to say he is gaining weight n u'r trying to teach him also abt gaining weight..LOL...

yeah i agree wit Shiloong... how can u lift more that once using ur max rep weight??LOL yeah reps n rest definitely differs according to ur goal n also ur training regime... for example:geman vol training requires 60-90 seconds rest...

i think u shud read more bro... read more... its not to late...



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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ May 11 2011, 10:40 PM)
lolwut ? rep ranges and rest time is entirely dependent on your goals. and if 5kg was my max, how can i lift it more than once ?
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 11 2011, 10:46 PM)
I deadlift over 450 pounds, no joke cos some LYN members seen it. You telling me to rest 30 secs max then do another set? I chop you up boss.
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i guess when he said "30 seconds max" and "sweating buckets", i doubt its about strength training
more like hypertrophy?

but i dont get the term "max"
is it one rep max or? if 1 rep max, the rest period is kind of shyte since how can one attack the same muscle spot after failure? doing so furthers the stupidity as it leads to injury

but i always believe one gets stronger outside the gym i.e. sleep and good fuel (carbs) and micronutrients

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Pretty awesome site indeed. Loaded with good info, good pictures and (ya knoe what I'm gonna say next rite   )

i dunno what ur gonna say next lah bro

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Usually what type of protein you guy consume during conditioning?

or any protein just the same?
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hello guys, I would like to know the difference between ON whey protein and Myofusion, i did some research and it says myofusion is hydrolyzed whey, what is the difference? icon_question.gif
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hello guys, I would like to know the difference between ON whey protein and Myofusion, i did some research and it says myofusion is hydrolyzed whey, what is the difference?  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(pedro @ May 12 2011, 05:48 PM)
ON whey = Whey

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 12 2011, 06:34 PM)
Shisha tonight!! I went to Al Safas. They kinda improved.
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QUOTE(pedro @ May 12 2011, 06:37 PM)
Alrite,time?
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10.30 as usual?

No make it 10.31.

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QUOTE(pedro @ May 12 2011, 07:05 PM)
lol 10.31 gotcha!
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QUOTE(NickyKhoo @ May 14 2011, 10:08 PM)
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Not the best tasting protein blend out there but it works. Very effective.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 15 2011, 02:11 AM)
Not the best tasting protein blend out there but it works. Very effective.
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effective in term of? I've been using 2 tub before using myofusion.. I don't know is good or not.. lean mass?


Added on May 15, 2011, 4:05 ambut taste really good compare to others.. Even taste better than myofusion, ON whey.. Everyone taste differ biggrin.gif


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I dont know about you guys, the other day Ego nutritions send me a pack of ultimate nutrition whey(cookie cream). downed it, tasted more like lychee sleep.gif. somehow it doesnt feel right.

maybe it's just not for me
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 15 2011, 04:04 AM)
effective in term of? I've been using 2 tub before using myofusion.. I don't know is good or not.. lean mass?


Added on May 15, 2011, 4:05 ambut taste really good compare to others.. Even taste better than myofusion, ON whey.. Everyone taste differ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 15 2011, 04:04 AM)
effective in term of? I've been using 2 tub before using myofusion.. I don't know is good or not.. lean mass?


Added on May 15, 2011, 4:05 ambut taste really good compare to others.. Even taste better than myofusion, ON whey.. Everyone taste differ biggrin.gif
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If you're looking for taste, forget about Muscle Infusion. But it's effective in the sense of being a protein blend supplying quick and sustained release protein as well as keeping you satiated for a while till your next meal. I've had decent gains on this.
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I am about 70kg and 175cm. I m planning to buy the Serious Mass for weight gain, my question is do i need to consume it everyday or only the day i go to the gym? As i only go to the gym 2-3 times per week.

And say if i consume the serious mass, do i still need to consume whey protein after workout?

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 15 2011, 06:43 PM)
If you're looking for taste, forget about Muscle Infusion. But it's effective in the sense of being a protein blend supplying quick and sustained release protein as well as keeping you satiated for a while till your next meal. I've had decent gains on this.
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Okok... I guess i tasted the worst is ON whey vanilla flavour... Don't really like the taste...

How shall i call you? chirst? dark? Just wonder is it any protein work for cutting? Im going for cut as soon i finish one more tub of myo.. Any suggestion for protein during cutting? ON whey works well ? or is the same after all?
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try Muscle Infusion(black) for cutting.

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why? and i dont think your protein quota should be reduced if you're cutting.
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Never, EVER reduce protein quota when cutting. You'll be operating like a 90 year old granpa trying to jerk off without <removed>.
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myofusion ftw!!!
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why everyone seems like against muscletech product ?
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 16 2011, 05:50 PM)
why everyone seems like against muscletech product ?
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muscletech lotsa hype?

QUOTE(BuilderBalls @ May 16 2011, 06:32 PM)
SUPERPUMP MAX IS WICKED HOT!! N ITS JUST RM150 smile.gif
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murah tapi tada duit!
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aih.. sudah beli baru post... ditakdir tak dapat beli promo price lol
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Has anyone tried UN's M-stak? How'd it work for you and was it worth your time?
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QUOTE(BuilderBalls @ May 16 2011, 06:32 PM)
SUPERPUMP MAX IS WICKED HOT!! N ITS JUST RM150 smile.gif
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oh yeah, it is indeed !


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Has anyone tried UN's M-stak? How'd it work for you and was it worth your time?
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Tempted to try, either animal stak or m-stak with animal pak. m-stak has stimulate, once my NO ran out, i might try tat :3

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First time try Myofusion with Banana flavor. The taste like a "cat meow'!
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greetings guys, have been using optimum nutrition whey isolate and have finished a tub of it. Should i continue wit ON or chage to muscletech ultra whey isolate ?

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greetings guys, have been using optimum nutrition whey isolate and have finished a tub of it. Should i continue wit ON or chage to muscletech ultra whey isolate ?
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What is the reason you want to change?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 17 2011, 03:00 PM)
greetings guys, have been using optimum nutrition whey isolate and have finished a tub of it. Should i continue wit ON or chage to muscletech ultra whey isolate ?
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And if you were to change, why Muscletech?
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I've gone from Muscletech(stupid mistake) to On whey to Myofusion and now BSN.

And I'm sticking with BSN from now on. I know compared to Myofusion, BSN lose out from protein per scoop but still somehow it seems to be giving me better gains after starting on it.

not to mention the taste is Orgasmic-ly good.
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heard tht muscle tech is better
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Muscletech is overpriced, my friend.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ May 17 2011, 04:33 PM)
Muscletech is overpriced, my friend.
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whey is whey. no different than any other brands. if you're buying muscletech for the 'propriety blend' then by all means, go ahead.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2011, 05:03 PM)
whey is whey. no different than any other brands. if you're buying muscletech for the 'propriety blend' then by all means, go ahead.
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I beg to differ, not all whey are created equally. Disregarding additional ingredients they put in, some brands stood out among other. Having said that Nitrotech is all bout hype and marketing.
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ May 17 2011, 05:19 PM)
I beg to differ, not all whey are created equally. Disregarding additional ingredients they put in, some brands stood out among other. Having said that Nitrotech is all bout hype and marketing.
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oh, really? mind explaining? im not being sarcastic or anything, mind you, i would like to know if you're willing to share.

oh, and heard from my friend that nitrotech hardcore now comes in 4.8lbs with the same price. not sure if its true or not.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 17 2011, 03:00 PM)
greetings guys, have been using optimum nutrition whey isolate and have finished a tub of it. Should i continue wit ON or chage to muscletech ultra whey isolate ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 17 2011, 04:30 PM)
heard tht muscle tech is better
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 17 2011, 04:34 PM)
dont mind but hows the quality
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listen to the guys here, they don't buy MT products and still they are big.
why settle for a protein that's way expensive when something much cheaper is equally effective?
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2011, 06:22 PM)
oh, really? mind explaining? im not being sarcastic or anything, mind you, i would like to know if you're willing to share.

oh, and heard from my friend that nitrotech hardcore now comes in 4.8lbs with the same price. not sure if its true or not.
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just to inform you guys, ON has came out with an even competitive formula than MT:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/plat...drobuilder.html


now, just need time before it slowly gets here smile.gif

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If I'm going to buy protein, I just want whey with no other added additional ingredients...
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all these hydro stuff from ON are expensive man, i prefer the new Myofusion formula, same price also smile.gif
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all these hydro stuff from ON are expensive man, i prefer the new Myofusion formula, same price also smile.gif
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yeah... I personally use a mixture of myofusion/on whey/on casein and a separate tub of creapure micro... its the most basic solid combination for me, been using it for few years...

never tried any hydro stuff from them, it is still pricey ever since launched, but good to know that they are introducing another good product in.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2011, 06:22 PM)
oh, really? mind explaining? im not being sarcastic or anything, mind you, i would like to know if you're willing to share.

oh, and heard from my friend that nitrotech hardcore now comes in 4.8lbs with the same price. not sure if its true or not.
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Not sure bout the 4.8lbs packaging but if price is concerned it is quite competitive compared to other brands on certain website store. I think its not the price that I m against, its just that NT is simply not the best whey.

Btw back to whey, many variances of preparation and the percentage of them in any brands makes difference in the rate they are digested and absorbed, eg being hydrolyzed to smaller chains of peptide or not, does make a big difference in absorption during the PWO window. Addition of digestive enzymes in certain brands is another advantage in this sense. Imagine lactase in ON's for the lactose-intolerant, its one hella savior. Easiest way, will you think Holley's whey is equivalent to Nutrex's, gram to gram? smile.gif My 2cent.


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yeah... I personally use a mixture of myofusion/on whey/on casein and a separate tub of creapure micro... its the most basic solid combination for me, been using it for few years...

never tried any hydro stuff from them, it is still pricey ever since launched, but good to know that they are introducing another good product in.
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By hydro if you are referring to hydrolyzed whey, no they are not pricey. ON's 100% whey is partially hydrolyzed, and its the one of the cheapest whey out there. I do think ON's product esp its 100% whey are value for money. You can easily get 10lb-er for RM295 shipped.

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bro do you know what the price for a regular 4lbs?
just for the sake of discussion, its just perhaps rm10 more expensive and losses out on # of scoops by 10 scoops but compensate with higher protein per serving. No hate but i think its just brand preference, shouldnt be a reason to hate 'em.

Currently myofusion and dymatize elite whey has the best deals (not to forget scivation), then again its blend vs regular whey.
Got dymatize whey 10lb for rm250 recently.
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QUOTE(shaunhsc @ May 17 2011, 07:54 PM)
bro do you know what the price for a regular 4lbs?
just for the sake of discussion, its just perhaps rm10 more expensive and losses out on # of scoops by 10 scoops but compensate with higher protein per serving. No hate but i think its just brand preference, shouldnt be a reason to hate 'em.

Currently myofusion and dymatize elite whey has the best deals (not to forget scivation), then again its blend vs regular whey.
Got dymatize whey 10lb for rm250 recently.
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actually it's not just their protein that's expensive...
MT is general is an expensive brand.

and gnc takes advantage of that fact to hike up the price, just saying.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 17 2011, 08:18 PM)
actually it's not just their protein that's expensive...
MT is general is an expensive brand.

and gnc takes advantage of that fact to hike up the price, just saying.
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ May 17 2011, 07:31 PM)
By hydro if you are referring to hydrolyzed whey, no they are not pricey. ON's 100% whey is partially hydrolyzed, and its the one of the cheapest whey out there. I do think ON's product esp its 100% whey are value for money. You can easily get 10lb-er for RM295 shipped.
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I was referring to on's hydro platinum products:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/plat..._hydrowhey.html


3.5lbs for rm210 from reyzai... can't find many sellers here.... but even in US it is quite pricey imho...


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LOL. Im still suprised they're still open.  Somehow ppl still go there for their supplement range (vitamin,herbs).
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Oh i mean they earn more through their health supplements. Not on their proteins.
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Oh i mean they earn more through their health supplements. Not on their proteins.
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If you are going for a cutting, which protein u guys choose out of these; myofusion, nutrex black infusion, ON whey, elite whey and scivation whey?

i do not which one suit for cutting or everything is the same? same in term of result smile.gif


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My guess would be the one with the least carbs. Correct me if im wrong tho.
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ May 17 2011, 07:31 PM)
Not sure bout the 4.8lbs packaging but if price is concerned it is quite competitive compared to other brands on certain website store. I think its not the price that I m against, its just that NT is simply not the best whey.

Btw back to whey, many variances of preparation and the percentage of them in any brands makes difference in the rate they are digested and absorbed, eg being hydrolyzed to smaller chains of peptide or not, does make a big difference in absorption during the PWO window. Addition of digestive enzymes in certain brands is another advantage in this sense. Imagine lactase in ON's for the lactose-intolerant, its one hella savior. Easiest way, will you think Holley's whey is equivalent to Nutrex's, gram to gram? smile.gif My 2cent.


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By hydro if you are referring to hydrolyzed whey, no they are not pricey. ON's 100% whey is partially hydrolyzed, and its the one of the cheapest whey out there. I do think ON's product esp its 100% whey are value for money. You can easily get 10lb-er for RM295 shipped.
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well, in the end, the main ingredient is still whey isnt it? regardless of digestive enzymes etc etc. personally for me i still think price is the main factor for me choosing any particular brand. but then again, i am not the type that would blame the protein shake if i dont make decent progress. its -still- a supplement for me, after all.

ON has the platinum series, if i remember the name correctly, which is more expensive than your regular whey. thats the hydrolyzed whey..
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My guess would be the one with the least carbs. Correct me if im wrong tho.
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Quite correct unless they have a buy 2 get 1 free offer. Then you'll see me go berserk in there.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2011, 11:09 PM)
well, in the end, the main ingredient is still whey isnt it? regardless of digestive enzymes etc etc. personally for me i still think price is the main factor for me choosing any particular brand. but then again, i am not the type that would blame the protein shake if i dont make decent progress. its -still- a supplement for me, after all.

ON has the platinum series, if i remember the name correctly, which is more expensive than your regular whey. thats the hydrolyzed whey..
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Yes you are correct, the main ingredient is still whey. But as I have mentioned, even whey has grades eg percentage of WPI/WPC, pre-hydrolyzed etc. Thats why my argument of one brand of whey being better than others. And you are correct that we dont blame supplement for plateau, but again who doesnt want the best supp out there, price wise and quality wise.

And btw, this is the description for ON's 100% whey:

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It is partially hydrolyzed as I have mentioned in earlier post. Platinum has got higher percentage of hydrolyzed whey/WPI.

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Quite correct unless they have a buy 2 get 1 free offer. Then you'll see me go berserk in there.
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There was once even better promo: buy one free one. I still remember stocking up on them. Nowadays the price cant compare to the webstores even after 50% discount.

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There was once even better promo: buy one free one. I still remember stocking up on them. Nowadays the price cant compare to the webstores even after 50% discount.
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Depends on item, i still shop during my birthday month or like u guys say, those promo, i got 3 bottles of ON casein, each of them cost me around Rm170+, more or less saving like 30-45 ringgit only sad.gif
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i used to buy my proteins from gnc because they were located near to my house. after checking the prices with egonutrition, i realised that they are preety overpriced. any other stores to check out ?


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i used to buy my proteins from gnc because they were located near to my house. after checking the prices with egonutrition, i realised that they are preety overpriced. any other stores to check out ?
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so guys, should i cange from ON whey isolate to muscletech ?

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Muscletech is kinda pricey No?.. its only a four pounder compared to ON. Not sure about the rest, but I noticed not much difference in terms of gains compared to using ONs. Besides, the hardcore series doesn't shake well either.
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i used to buy my proteins from gnc because they were located near to my house. after checking the prices with egonutrition, i realised that they are preety overpriced. any other stores to check out ?


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so guys, should i cange from ON whey isolate to muscletech ?
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can you tell us the reason y u want to change to MT brand apart from 'hearing that it's better'?
have you heard of other brands like Gaspari, BSN, Scivation, Universal etc??
They work equally well if not better, cheaper and most importantly taste good.
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i used to buy my proteins from gnc because they were located near to my house. after checking the prices with egonutrition, i realised that they are preety overpriced. any other stores to check out ?


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so guys, should i cange from ON whey isolate to muscletech ?
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The answer is clear, muscletech is all market hype, not worth the price but if u insist to try it, go ahead. But for me, thats the only brand that i would not go for, only if it only selling RM140 for the 4 pounder.
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guys.. mind tell me which one is the best supplement for weight gainer. currently thinking serious mass and mass fusion

serious mass 12LB RM180 = 16 servings @ 1250 cal per serving
mass fusion 16LB RM220 = 31 servings @ 950 cal per serving

any idea which one is the best and worth? or can suggest me other brand? really appreciate it guys. tq~
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can you tell us the reason y u want to change to MT brand apart from 'hearing that it's better'?
have you heard of other brands like Gaspari, BSN, Scivation, Universal etc??
They work equally well if not better, cheaper and most importantly taste good.
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Look, lol... that fella's mind is already made up about buying MuscleTech. Just let him. It's his cash and nothing we can do about it. =P No point trying to advise him already.
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Look, lol... that fella's mind is already made up about buying MuscleTech. Just let him. It's his cash and nothing we can do about it. =P No point trying to advise him already.
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lol. just wanted to know. so what brand will u guys recommend me ?
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Anyone tried Champion Nutrition's Pure Whey? It has a similar profile to ON's Gold Standard (slight variations) but its a whole lot cheaper. Tastes better to me too (though taste preferences does differ from one person to the next)
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may i know where did u get this brand in m'sia?
like never heard b4. thanks smile.gif
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lol. just wanted to know. so what brand will u guys recommend me ?
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u can also read the earlier reviews from other ppl
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Which brand has the highest content of protein? & worth the price. Thanks
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QUOTE(siv 007 @ May 19 2011, 05:11 PM)
guys.. mind tell me which one is the best supplement for weight gainer. currently thinking serious mass andmass fusion

serious mass 12LB RM180  = 16 servings @ 1250 cal per serving
mass fusion 16LB RM220 = 31 servings @ 950 cal per serving

any idea which one is the best and worth? or can suggest me other brand? really appreciate it guys. tq~
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MassFusion, more servings although less a bit calories.

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Which brand has the highest content of protein? & worth the price. Thanks
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lol. just wanted to know. so what brand will u guys recommend me ?
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Muscle tech nitro tech pro series and must get it from GNC.
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With non-VIP price also tongue.gif
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may i know where did u get this brand in m'sia?
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From a friend who imports supplements. Not too sure how much it is comparatively outside (if there are any), but it seems to be okay for me. Similar profile to ONs gold standard. So its just whey, no creatine and all the other fancy stuff.

Looking at the contents section, ONs do have a slight better BCAA profile though. But look, it also depends on how well your body absorbs it. No harm in trying something new, as long as its not muscle milk. I suppose if you're happy with using Gold Standard in the past, this would just be an affordable alternative
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Muscle tech nitro tech pro series and must get it from GNC.
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With non-VIP price also  tongue.gif
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listening to the review.. i bought two tubs of muscle tech pro series with out VIP price..
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listening to the review.. i bought two tubs of muscle tech pro series with out VIP price..
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you bought the wrong tubs. the smaller 2lbs tubs have moar proteinz. go get an exchange quick!
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I'm going to mass order muscletech nitro tech pro series from GNC without VIP price now! I dont need receipt because I know it is the best decision in my life...
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From a friend who imports supplements. Not too sure how much it is comparatively outside (if there are any), but it seems to be okay for me. Similar profile to ONs gold standard. So its just whey, no creatine and all the other fancy stuff.

Looking at the contents section, ONs do have a slight better BCAA profile though. But look, it also depends on how well your body absorbs it. No harm in trying something new, as long as its not muscle milk. I suppose if you're happy with using Gold Standard in the past, this would just be an affordable alternative
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oh i see... i've been using ON so far due to the enzymes they added, if not sure diarrhea as in the same problem when i consume milk, even low lactose one like HL milk.

if your friend has a website, perhaps can share here with all of us smile.gif
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Just ate one tablet of Optimen, i can truly understand what you guys meant by neon piss
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Just ate one tablet of Optimen, i can truly understand what you guys meant by neon piss
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lol, soon you will understand acne (if you are lucky)
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oh damn that neon colour lasted for one pee only. aha alright will keep an eye out for it
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yup.... but i guess as long as u drink more water would be fine... i used to take optimen, for the 1st week i felt i'm very heaty... then came those acne, upped my water intake... they slowly subsided
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haha... acne? Seriously? Why does it even happening (I mean, the acne)?
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no idea why, it just pop up all over my face when i started optimen... perhaps it was dehydrating? lol
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That's what I feel from it. I take 2 caps/day only and drink lots of water smile.gif
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tbh, i dun know wats heaty, it seems like every supp is heaty if you mean we need to drink alot of water. creatine is heaty also coz we need to drink alot of water?
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tbh, i dun know wats heaty, it seems like every supp is heaty if you mean we need to drink alot of water. creatine is heaty also coz we need to drink alot of water?
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creatine made me dehydrated but doesnt make me feel like my body temp was rising...

this optimen however... i realize i feel damn hot even in office even with my sleeves rolled up... usually i would roll down during morning and roll up by evening... but when i was with optimen, even rolling up before i enter the office, feeling hot all day lol and yes there were a few occasions my nose had blood, i wasnt sure if it was the combination of creatine and optimen, but i've been taking creatine steadily on workout days only, while optimen daily... and when i started taking more water it slighly reduce the heaty effect, heck when i pee i feel that it isnt that warm anymore compared to before i up the water intake.. lol
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creatine is dehydrating because its pulling water to the muscles and causing the body to retain more water.
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Egonutritions, Lot 10 - Forgot the name of the skinny Chinese boy there but he's all right. Knows the products pretty well. Small shop but at least the service was decent and not zombie-like, which, I will now segue into:
Egonutritions, The Curve - I remember Kmaru there and he was by far the best dude there. Real helpful and informative. Now? I encountered three stooges that had about as much life in them akin to a bad zombie reject from The Walking Dead. No quality service whatsoever.
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Right now I am taking Scivation Xtend for d during workout.

Then I take Nutrabolics Anabolic Windows after workout.

Have been taking those for nearly a month now. Is this ok???
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Already 5 months gym... but still not yet take any supplements... Can I ask what should I take ? what brand ? protein ? gain weight ?
My target is wanna bulk sumore...and get a nice muscle shape...

Please give some advice.
Thank you
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Just ever so slight off tangent, I'd like to review two shops:

Egonutritions, Lot 10 - Forgot the name of the skinny Chinese boy there but he's all right. Knows the products pretty well. Small shop but at least the service was decent and not zombie-like, which, I will now segue into:
Egonutritions, The Curve - I remember Kmaru there and he was by far the best dude there. Real helpful and informative. Now? I encountered three stooges that had about as much life in them akin to a bad zombie reject from The Walking Dead. No quality service whatsoever.
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guys, looking for mass gainer, i need something like easy to make without blending, took serious mass before, it is hard to dissolve and have to blend every time i consume ><
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guys, looking for mass gainer, i need something like easy to make without blending, took serious mass before, it is hard to dissolve and have to blend every time i consume ><
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Cytosport Cytogainer mixes bloody well and cookies and cream is awesome. Not sure what's the price over in Malaysia, but it's pretty expensive if compared to Serious Mass I think.
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ May 24 2011, 10:52 AM)
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Already 5 months gym... but still not yet take any supplements... Can I ask what should I take ? what brand ? protein ? gain weight ?
My target is wanna bulk sumore...and get a nice muscle shape...

Please give some advice.
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throw out your fats first before you start taking supplyment, although it can work both ways...
if u r skinny, eat more solid food with a weight gainer, if u r not skinny, then protien will be the main thing u were looking for, there is lots of brands in the market, every body has a diffrent reaction to the protien, choose a reliable brand and gv it a try...
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guys, looking for mass gainer, i need something like easy to make without blending, took serious mass before, it is hard to dissolve and have to blend every time i consume ><
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TrueMass, MonsterMass, Cytogainer all mixes well


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The guy in jaya33 was sleeping while i went in until 5 minutes later he woke up lol.
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Hey peeps, I've recently started taking xtend blue raspberry flavour and I swear each time I take it, be it intra workout or sipping throughout the day I would get terrible headaches. Only taking 2 scoops each time, with approx 0.75 to 1L . Any sifus here having that experience?... I just feel like selling that tub away now.......Thx!

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Hey peeps, I've recently started taking xtend blue raspberry flavour and I swear each time I take it, be it intra workout or sipping throughout the day I would get terrible headaches. Only taking 2 scoops each time, with approx 0.75 to 1L . Any sifus here having that experience?... I just feel like selling that tub away now.......Thx!

*How does your blue raspberry taste? Did it taste like asam boi juice -__-" ?
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Have tried watermelon and apple before. Did not have such headache, am usually taking 4-6 scoops each go. Watermelon tastes the best btw.
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Have tried watermelon and apple before. Did not have such headache, am usually taking 4-6 scoops each go. Watermelon tastes the best btw.
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Darn... this blue raspberry tasted pretty sour... dont look forward taking it. I usually take 2 scoops most of the time. (Just got it a week ago). Today I tried upping to 3 scoops to see if this was the cause of the headache, And bingo! I had the worst headache I could ever get in a long while...
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 24 2011, 09:19 PM)
Darn... this blue raspberry tasted pretty sour... dont look forward taking it. I usually take 2 scoops most of the time. (Just got it a week ago). Today I tried upping to 3 scoops to see if this was the cause of the headache, And bingo! I had the worst headache I could ever get in a long while...
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tried blue raps b4, nothing wrong. r u experiencing only for this flav or this is the 1st time on xtend?
i only had serious headache/dizziness with NO Xplode (pre wo). The rest r ok.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 24 2011, 10:04 PM)
tried blue raps b4, nothing wrong. r u experiencing only for this flav or this is the 1st time on xtend?
i only had serious headache/dizziness with NO Xplode (pre wo). The rest r ok.
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1st time on xtend, but I seriously felt the taste was more of some kind of asam boi than sour berries...

btw, how many scoops and with how much water do u take each time?

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I usually make 4 scoops into bout 500-600cc. Tried adding ice cubes to make it real chilled, taste less awful.
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I'm using Xtend grape now. Tastes awesome, best out of all the flavours I've tried so far (apple, lemon, watermelon). Only thing I'd take away from it is mixability. Takes a good 5 minutes of mixing to get it done properly. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 24 2011, 10:08 PM)
1st time on xtend, but I seriously felt the taste was more of some kind of asam boi than sour berries...

btw, how many scoops and with how much water do u take each time?
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I'm using Xtend grape now. Tastes awesome, best out of all the flavours I've tried so far (apple, lemon, watermelon). Only thing I'd take away from it is mixability. Takes a good 5 minutes of mixing to get it done properly. laugh.gif
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read in bb.com b4 their sales rep says grape n watermelon are their best sellers.
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lol, one of these days those with diff xtend flavours should gather and exchange samples... then we can decide what we should really go for instead of buying one tub and suffer through it if one dislikes that flavour

but i see many happy sifu's above not heaving any prob with the headache... i shall experiment it further more, eg 1 scoop with 0.75L instead for a while and see how it goes...

i have blue raspberry here, exchange point --> jaya33/menara tm lol
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ May 24 2011, 10:16 PM)
I usually make 4 scoops into bout 500-600cc. Tried adding ice cubes to make it real chilled, taste less awful.
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i use 4 scoops for normal play
but for legs and shoulders mesti 6 scoops
and alwiz use super chilled water or add ice on top of chilled water
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QUOTE(-Dan @ May 24 2011, 10:27 PM)
I'm using Xtend grape now. Tastes awesome, best out of all the flavours I've tried so far (apple, lemon, watermelon). Only thing I'd take away from it is mixability. Takes a good 5 minutes of mixing to get it done properly. laugh.gif
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i just finished my big tub of rasp
so far i've tried orange, rasp and apple and i have to say apple's the best out of all of them
tomorrow im buying watermelon (i hate air tembikai but i'll give this one a try)
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 24 2011, 11:56 PM)
lol, one of these days those with diff xtend flavours should gather and exchange samples...  then we can decide what we should really go for instead of buying one tub and suffer through it if one dislikes that flavour

but i see many happy sifu's above not heaving any prob with the headache... i shall experiment it further more, eg 1 scoop with 0.75L instead for a while and see how it goes...

i have blue raspberry here, exchange point --> jaya33/menara tm lol
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patut, u didnt use sizeon lol.

QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 25 2011, 12:45 AM)
i use 4 scoops for normal play
but for legs and shoulders mesti 6 scoops
and alwiz use super chilled water or add ice on top of chilled water
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i just finished my big tub of rasp
so far i've tried orange, rasp and apple and i have to say apple's the best out of all of them
tomorrow im buying watermelon (i hate air tembikai but i'll give this one a try)
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patut, u didnt use sizeon lol.

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i figured out sizeon pricey (and i still have some creatine mono too lol) ...so i decided to try something more worth the buck dulu... manatau each consumption somehow gave me headache... now i really headache with what to do with it if i still get headache by using until next week...



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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 25 2011, 11:31 AM)
i figured out sizeon pricey (and i still have some creatine mono too lol) ...so i decided to try something more worth the buck dulu... manatau each consumption somehow gave me headache... now i really headache with what to do with it if i still get headache by using until next week...
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I went thru my entire tub of NOXplode with dizziness and stomach upset.
Take it like a man! LOL
Worst case scenario just sell to anyone in ur gym at cheaper price.

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i figured out sizeon pricey (and i still have some creatine mono too lol) ...so i decided to try something more worth the buck dulu... manatau each consumption somehow gave me headache... now i really headache with what to do with it if i still get headache by using until next week...
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it is pricey indeed, but this is ur first time taking bcaa ? the extra ingredient only citrulline malate and glutamine wonder which one trigger the headache.
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QUOTE(jamis @ May 25 2011, 11:07 AM)
patut, u didnt use sizeon lol.
Wah, Gto, how u take to finish ur tat bottle ? mine i last about 3months, apple flav.
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i take as pre bed time drink jugak
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 25 2011, 11:52 AM)
I went thru my entire tub of NOXplode with dizziness and stomach upset.
Take it like a man! LOL
Worst case scenario just sell to anyone in ur gym at cheaper price.
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Wah ure nuts... if I do that, won't be able to focus on my lifts... most likely I'll have to do that if this pesky headache continues...


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it is pricey indeed, but this is ur first time taking bcaa ? the extra ingredient only citrulline malate and glutamine wonder which one trigger the headache.
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yep first time, i had no idea which one does, but I googled around and I found several factors:

1. i'm hypoglycemic ? hence bcaa reduces my serotonin and the headache + fatigue starts to kick in?

2. sucrolase? too much sucrolase would trigger the headache? (but i dont think this would be it as even ON whey and myofusion has sucrolase... unless xtend uses way more sucrolase per scoop than the protein shakes)

even for glutamate, it is also in ON whey.. never get any headaches with them. ON whey has been good to me since day 1. Heck when ON whey has BCAA's inside. I really don't feel factor 1 could be the cause, unless I'm taking way too much BCAA? lol

*one reason i choose to go with xtend was many mentioned about the tasty drink, but blue raspberry was really a fail to me lol

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gaspari annavite -

i tried the full 6 tabs per day. i`m feeling good all day. but i need to drink a lot of water. my lifts are getting heavier and heavier. plus i take superpump before workout so the workout is very intense.

i noticed recovery was alot better with 6 tabs a day compared to 3 tabs (one serving) finished a container in a month or so... and now, i`m trying animal pak.
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QUOTE(jackwylde @ May 25 2011, 02:37 PM)
gaspari annavite -

i tried the full 6 tabs per day. i`m feeling good all day. but i need to drink a lot of water. my lifts are getting heavier and heavier. plus i take superpump before workout so the workout is very intense.

i noticed recovery was alot better with 6 tabs a day compared to 3 tabs (one serving) finished a container in a month or so... and now, i`m trying animal pak.
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- Clumps slightly more than their normal whey gold standard
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 25 2011, 02:17 PM)
Wah ure nuts... if I do that, won't be able to focus on my lifts... most likely I'll have to do that if this pesky headache continues...


Added on May 25, 2011, 2:28 pm

yep first time, i had no idea which one does, but I googled around and I found several factors:

1. i'm hypoglycemic ? hence bcaa reduces my serotonin and the headache + fatigue starts to kick in?

2. sucrolase? too much sucrolase would trigger the headache? (but i dont think this would be it as even ON whey and myofusion has sucrolase... unless xtend uses way more sucrolase per scoop than the protein shakes)

even for glutamate, it is also in ON whey.. never get any headaches with them. ON whey has been good to me since day 1. Heck when ON whey has BCAA's inside. I really don't feel factor 1 could be the cause, unless I'm taking way too much BCAA? lol

*one reason i choose to go with xtend was many mentioned about the tasty drink, but blue raspberry was really a fail to me lol
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the serotonin thiggy only happens if u take huge doses of bcaa (e.g.50g)... probably the flavouring agent? o.O

but the flavour.. i tried apple, wasnt as great as i imagine ... its like average, guess not all flav are good, so far i heard watermelon is still the best thou lol. I use apple because last time ego only left with apple doh.gif
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QUOTE(jamis @ May 25 2011, 07:26 PM)
the serotonin thiggy only happens if u take huge doses of bcaa (e.g.50g)... probably the flavouring agent? o.O

but the flavour.. i tried apple, wasnt as great as i imagine ... its like average, guess not all flav are good, so far i heard watermelon is still the best thou lol. I use apple because last time ego only left with apple doh.gif
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Anybody tried Xtend Orange? Mine's on the way. Hope it's good.
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Anybody tried Xtend Orange? Mine's on the way. Hope it's good.
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anyone of u tried superpump max?
do they work?
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here's one thing bugging me for a while now. how important is pre workout supps like No-Xplode for you guys? im avoiding this because i dont want to not be able to workout without a peri workout supp. How different are your poundages with and without the supp?

fyi for now im taking creatine + whey, thats it.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 26 2011, 12:17 AM)
anyone of u tried superpump max?
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Tried it. Somehow the old superpump250 does the trick better for me.


QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 26 2011, 12:23 AM)
here's one thing bugging me for a while now. how important is pre workout supps like No-Xplode for you guys? im avoiding this because i dont want to not be able to workout without a peri workout supp. How different are your poundages with and without the supp?

fyi for now im taking creatine + whey, thats it.
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Tbh u got to find the right one too. Each one works differently with different individual. In general u can get immense focus, better stamina n strength. 20-30 min after u have taken a pre wo , u know it's time to lift some weight. I guess tats the pump u get from pre wo.

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 26 2011, 01:04 AM)
Tried it. Somehow the old superpump250 does the trick better for me.
Tbh u got to find the right one too. Each one works differently with different individual. In general u can get immense focus, better stamina n strength. 20-30 min after u have taken a pre wo , u know it's time to lift some weight. I guess tats the pump u get from pre wo.
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pre-workout is a must have for me!
i mix jack3d and superpump max
need the stim from jack3d and the real pre-wo from superpump

about xtend....pls dont try lemonade, tastes crap. really.
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QUOTE(speedoom @ May 26 2011, 11:33 AM)
pre-workout is a must have for me!
i mix jack3d and superpump max
need the stim from jack3d and the real pre-wo from superpump

about xtend....pls dont try lemonade, tastes crap. really.
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atm, i took this 1 supplement, 30min b4 bed...and then will sleep like a baby! 4 hours sleep felt like 8 hours. very restful and i wud say, quality sleep smile.gif
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What's this 1 supplement that gives you good sleep? Melatonin?
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QUOTE(speedoom @ May 26 2011, 11:33 AM)
pre-workout is a must have for me!
i mix jack3d and superpump max
need the stim from jack3d and the real pre-wo from superpump
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this is the thing i want to avoid. dependency on supps for working out. im not against it, mind you. alot of my friends do take PWO supps but it just goes against my grain
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back to the basic of supp, if u can afford to have good pre wo meal, then u can skip it.

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 26 2011, 01:23 AM)
here's one thing bugging me for a while now. how important is pre workout supps like No-Xplode for you guys? im avoiding this because i dont want to not be able to workout without a peri workout supp. How different are your poundages with and without the supp?

fyi for now im taking creatine + whey, thats it.
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It's not important for me. It's advance supplement that i don't need.

Rite now i just stick with the john berradi advice regards to the energy phase (Pre Workout) and it's quite good compare to the N.O supplement.

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Start off by drinking 0.8g of carbohydrate/kg of body weight and 0.4g of protein/kg
of body weight diluted in about 1 L of water. For a 160 pound male that means 58g of
dextrose ( # lbs / 2.2 = # of kgs) and 29g of hydrolyzed protein powder.


So i start Mix Superwhey + Glucolin + Creatine as preworkout cocktail 15 minute before and for me this is a very powerful weapon in quest for size.


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how about your post workout shake? how many tablespoon of glucolin?

i`ve been confused on how many post workout carbs to put in my shake. normally 2 tablespoon / 44g carbs
( i drink this right after workout and have real food an hour later)
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QUOTE(swks26 @ May 26 2011, 11:39 AM)
What's this 1 supplement that gives you good sleep? Melatonin?
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musclemeds hexaghen, initially want to try zma, but all stock out.
melatonin wud b fine too

QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 26 2011, 12:58 PM)
this is the thing i want to avoid. dependency on supps for working out. im not against it, mind you. alot of my friends do take PWO supps but it just goes against my grain
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back to the basic of supp, if u can afford to have good pre wo meal, then u can skip it.
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i do take prewo meal 1hour/ 1.30hour b4 hitting gym.
pwo supp/no give extra oommph n to get my body ready...as i usually gym 3hour after wakeup.
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SuperMass Gainer and Serious Mass (12lbs) which one is better???
Syntha 6 (5lbs) On 100% Whey Myofusion Hydro (5lbs) which protein betteR???
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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ May 27 2011, 10:43 AM)
SuperMass Gainer and Serious Mass (12lbs) which one is better???
Syntha 6 (5lbs) On 100% Whey Myofusion Hydro (5lbs) which protein betteR???
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 26 2011, 12:23 AM)
here's one thing bugging me for a while now. how important is pre workout supps like No-Xplode for you guys? im avoiding this because i dont want to not be able to workout without a peri workout supp. How different are your poundages with and without the supp?

fyi for now im taking creatine + whey, thats it.
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I had been taking NO for the 6 weeks and I can tell you that my training sessions were through the roof. Then, when my tub of GAT Jetfuse ran out, I trained without taking anything at all, just a cup of coffee 30 minutes earlier, and the difference was quite apparent. First few sets of lat pulldowns were all right. But, after about 30 minutes into the training, I noticed my stamina and soon after my concentration started to decline a bit. Strength was all right, honestly, but I couldn't go the distance when compared on the NO. Poundages dropped by about 10 - 15% but I compensated with more reps. However, I never once thought, hey, I need the NO. I just kept at it and trained my ass off using own mental and physical strengths.

Another long-winded story, I know, but I was in the mood. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mcbarney666 @ May 27 2011, 10:35 AM)
I had been taking NO for the 6 weeks and I can tell you that my training sessions were through the roof. Then, when my tub of GAT Jetfuse ran out, I trained without taking anything at all, just a cup of coffee 30 minutes earlier, and the difference was quite apparent. First few sets of lat pulldowns were all right. But, after about 30 minutes into the training, I noticed my stamina and soon after my concentration started to decline a bit. Strength was all right, honestly, but I couldn't go the distance when compared on the NO. Poundages dropped by about 10 - 15% but I compensated with more reps. However, I never once thought, hey, I need the NO. I just kept at it and trained my ass off using own mental and physical strengths.

Another long-winded story, I know, but I was in the mood. smile.gif
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hey thanks for the reply man. imo i think i'll hold off the pre supps for the mo. im making progress right now so i dont see a reason why i should
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Greetings,
any of you guys taking optimum nutrition platinum hydro whey protein ?
was doing some research on the internet and came across this product.
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Just tested superpump max... good endurance, pump, strength wise was a lil bleh but it felt like i took some antidepressant medication... mood became very good, head was so clear, didnt even think a tad bit about work lol, which used to be quite distracting...thats the part i enjoy the most. Will monitor the effect as i use it longer..
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If you only have budget for either one of these, which one will you choose? NO2 products like superpump for greater workout, or BCAA/EAA like xtend or wrath for greater recovery? I'm still a student and only have extra budget for one of these. All the basic stuffs are covered though.

I'd asked at bb.com but only 1 guy replied and he mentioned to use no2 when bulking and bcaa/eaa for cutting. 1 guy at LYN say bcaa/eaa is a need while no2 is a want. Need more opinion from sifu here before making my decision. thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(oren_studio @ May 28 2011, 12:02 PM)
If you only have budget for either one of these, which one will you choose? NO2 products like superpump for greater workout, or BCAA/EAA like xtend or wrath for greater recovery? I'm still a student and only have extra budget for one of these. All the basic stuffs are covered though.

I'd asked at bb.com but only 1 guy replied and he mentioned to use no2 when bulking and bcaa/eaa for cutting. 1 guy at LYN say bcaa/eaa is a need while no2 is a want. Need more opinion from sifu here before making my decision. thanks smile.gif
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so wats ur aim? bulking? cutting?
if u r a beginner i feel bcaa is more important since poundage or PR (from pre wo supp) is not really ur concern.
recovery is more important.

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QUOTE(oren_studio @ May 28 2011, 12:02 PM)
If you only have budget for either one of these, which one will you choose? NO2 products like superpump for greater workout, or BCAA/EAA like xtend or wrath for greater recovery? I'm still a student and only have extra budget for one of these. All the basic stuffs are covered though.

I'd asked at bb.com but only 1 guy replied and he mentioned to use no2 when bulking and bcaa/eaa for cutting. 1 guy at LYN say bcaa/eaa is a need while no2 is a want. Need more opinion from sifu here before making my decision. thanks smile.gif
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do u train with max? <<< gaspari ha2

bcaa/eaa...for beginner or intermediate, from whey protein wud be enough
unless u train everyday or twice per day
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 28 2011, 03:57 PM)
so wats ur aim? bulking? cutting?
if u r a beginner i feel bcaa is more important since poundage or PR (from pre wo supp) is not really ur concern.
recovery is more important.
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i try to give 110% every time, but i loose steam quite fast, usually at my third routine where I'll be gasping for air. that's why im quite inclined to no2 products right now.

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To me it's simple. We can't say wat to buy n wat not. If u can only have one at a time just buy one 1st n see the effect. You will always want to try both anyway. Nvr try nvr know. Buy one of them 1st.
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I'd go for BCAA, because I've made good progress with them, in terms of poundages and endurance, etc. Recovery's faster too.
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wad if NO+bcaa combo??  brows.gif
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NO hands down for me.

recovery = more quality whole food and rest.

but NO , hard to find any easy sources except from supplement.
and it made me focus and energized in the gym too. no regret.

buy either one and try. i definitely suggest u try NO first.

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Do you guys prefer NO with added caffeine or non-caffeinated ones?
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Do you guys prefer NO with added caffeine or non-caffeinated ones?
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i believe most of them has it, for the focus part.
it's just the difference in dosage...
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QUOTE(jamis @ May 29 2011, 10:14 AM)
Most of them have caffeine thou..... any one of them without?
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Err my bad, because I heard rumours that BSN is going to release a caffeine-free version of NO xplode, but after doing some searching, I think it's not true. The non-caffeine ones are:
Dymatize Expand
San Vault
CytoSport Fast Twitch - Caffeine Free
Millennium Sport Ragnarok


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Tested Dark Rage from MHP,taste is very bad but it gives more endurance than Animal rage to me!
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Did a small research comparing the amino acid profiles of 2 of the cheapest whey products on the market - ON 100% Gold Standard Whey vs. SciVation whey. This is what I found:

SciVation:

From: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109507961

Standard Whey Amino Acid Profile:
g/serving

VALINE 1.16
TRYPTOPHAN 0.29
THREONINE 1.58
PHENYLALANINE 0.59
METHIONINE 0.33
LEUCINE 2.42
LYSINE 2.07
ISOLEUCINE 1.27

ALANINE 1.08
ARGININE 0.33
ASPARTIC ACID 2.57
CYSTINE 0.46
GLUTAMIC ACID 4.28
GLYCINE 0.26
HISTIDINE 0.26
PROLINE 1.36
SERINE 1.12
TYROSINE 0.55


ON:

Typical Amino Acid Profile (Miligrams Per Serving)

Essential Amino Acids (EAAs)

Tryptophan 405
Valine 1422
Threonine 1654
Isoleucine 1573
Leucine 2531
Lysine 2233
Phenylalanine 748
Methionine 492

Conditionally Essential Amino Acids (CAAs)

Arginine 505
Cystine 494
Tyrosine 703
Histidine 423
Proline 1509
Glutamine & Precursors 4082

Nonessential Amino Acids (NAAs)

Aspartic Acid 2508
Serine 1126
Glycine 412
Alanine 1180

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Without a doubt, ON has the better whey.

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QUOTE(adrianhsgan @ May 29 2011, 03:01 PM)
Err my bad, because I heard rumours that BSN is going to release a caffeine-free version of NO xplode, but after doing some searching, I think it's not true. The non-caffeine ones are:
Dymatize Expand
San Vault
CytoSport Fast Twitch - Caffeine Free
Millennium Sport Ragnarok
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Nice, never look into caffeine free NO... wonder hows the effect

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Tested Dark Rage from MHP,taste is very bad but it gives more endurance than Animal rage to me!
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Is it ok to take pure creatine or other supplement like superpump for workout 3 to 4 hours before sleep?
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Is it ok to take pure creatine or other supplement like superpump for workout 3 to 4 hours before sleep?
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i can only take superpump in the evening.
if i take it past that time, i`ll have trouble sleeping
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QUOTE(Matthew Bellamy @ May 7 2011, 11:36 PM)
Jack3d
+ Tastes okay (White blue raspberry). I down it anyway.
+ Mixes easily.
+ Gives the pump

- Knocks me out after gym
- Sometimes get mood swings after gym
- Tolerance to caffeine/stim
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Comparing jack3d (Yeah that was my account lol) with :

BSN NO Xplode
+ More endurance
+ Does not give me mood swings
+ Does not knock me out after gym
+ Has that fizzy taste

- Fruit punch flavour taste like F&N Raspberry (not to my liking)
- Scoops are huge if compared to jack3d (if wanna down, gotta chug it down more)
- Not much pump as compared to jack3d
- Jack3d is definitely much more stronger than NO Explode
- Stirred it with a chopstick, somehow gave a foamy layer


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QUOTE(swks26 @ May 30 2011, 06:28 PM)
Comparing jack3d (Yeah that was my account lol) with :

BSN NO Xplode
+ More endurance
+ Does not give me mood swings
+ Does not knock me out after gym
+ Has that fizzy taste

- Fruit punch flavour taste like F&N Raspberry (not to my liking)
- Scoops are huge if compared to jack3d (if wanna down, gotta chug it down more)
- Not much pump as compared to jack3d
- Jack3d is definitely much more stronger than NO Explode
- Stirred it with a chopstick, somehow gave a foamy layer
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I guess I'd go for xtend first, then try superpump after that. Besides, ramadhan is fast approaching, the anticatabolic properties of BCAAs will surely help me during that month.
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I will be finishing my ON gold whey protein. Just wanna ask if Myofusion is any better than ON? Planning to try a new brand
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ May 31 2011, 01:10 AM)
I will be finishing my ON gold whey protein. Just wanna ask if Myofusion is any better than ON? Planning to try a new brand
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now i'm planning to switch to ON gold.. no review from you? smile.gif
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I will be finishing my ON gold whey protein. Just wanna ask if Myofusion is any better than ON? Planning to try a new brand
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How u feel with ON whey? I just finish my Myo, looking forward to get ON whey...

Btw, anyone tried lipoprotein? any good result?
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I will be finishing my ON gold whey protein. Just wanna ask if Myofusion is any better than ON? Planning to try a new brand
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I tried several tubs of ON gold whey when i first started out. Saw now result at all, maybe so little that I barely noticed. After that changed to Myo, saw pretty good result and am happy that I changed. Difference between ON gold whey and Myo is ON is pure whey while Myo is a protein blend. Research shows that protein blend produce greater results due to prolonged protein synthesis. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(oren_studio @ May 31 2011, 11:06 AM)
I tried several tubs of ON gold whey when i first started out. Saw now result at all, maybe so little that I barely noticed. After that changed to Myo, saw pretty good result and am happy that I changed. Difference between ON gold whey and Myo is ON is pure whey while Myo is a protein blend. Research shows that protein blend produce greater results due to prolonged protein synthesis.  biggrin.gif
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I think ONs Gold Standard are pretty much a protein blend too. Maybe just a different blend entirely. They pretty much stack up more or less the same. There are a lot of guys who swear by using basic ON's Gold Standard as they do with Myo. Which boils down to this: "Not all products are the same, use what works for you" but just lay off muscle milk!!.. that stuff is just nasty
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QUOTE(Dharmain @ May 31 2011, 12:19 PM)
I think ONs Gold Standard are pretty much a protein blend too. Maybe just a different blend entirely. They pretty much stack up more or less the same. There are a lot of guys who swear by using basic ON's Gold Standard as they do with Myo. Which boils down to this: "Not all products are the same, use what works for you" but just lay off muscle milk!!.. that stuff is just nasty
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There's a reason y it's called ON Gold Standard 100% Whey. It's whey, not protein blend.
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ya...better result with protein blend.
took several tubs of ON, dun really c much result.
took dymatize elite gourmet, i think i got better result.blend of casin protein with whey.

then i put in some ...damn, what's that name...husk(fibre), i feel it's even better
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QUOTE(ijnek @ May 31 2011, 03:24 PM)
ya...better result with protein blend.
took several tubs of ON, dun really c much result.
took dymatize elite gourmet, i think i got better result.blend of casin protein with whey.

then i put in some ...damn, what's that name...husk(fibre), i feel it's even better
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may i understand how better does it feel? as in what noticeable results you could see?
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QUOTE(Dharmain @ May 31 2011, 12:19 PM)
I think ONs Gold Standard are pretty much a protein blend too. Maybe just a different blend entirely. They pretty much stack up more or less the same. There are a lot of guys who swear by using basic ON's Gold Standard as they do with Myo. Which boils down to this: "Not all products are the same, use what works for you" but just lay off muscle milk!!.. that stuff is just nasty
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blends of whey protein, hydro, concentrate, isolate. its still a whey. Myo is blends of fast and slow acting protein. big diff.


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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 31 2011, 03:57 PM)
psyllium husk smile.gif

may i understand how better does it feel? as in what noticeable results you could see?
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ok.
i hv a problem with plain whey protein, cause me constipation.
so i put that into the shake i take.

i was takin whey for a couple of mths n my weight nvr really increase or anything.i dun feel any bigger or anything.

with the change to the protein blend + psyllium husk, i notice better improvement.

i can't really say i am bigger, as i lost my measurement which i kept on the ex-iphone. but i feel bigger and i do hv a friend who used to go to the gym with me tellin me i'm bigger....

the theory is that the shake pass through our intestine too fast for proper absorption, so the psyllium husk helps to slow down the passing rate and allows more to be absorb.
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QUOTE(bata @ May 31 2011, 04:41 PM)
blends of whey protein, hydro, concentrate, isolate. its still a whey. Myo is blends of fast and slow acting protein. big diff.
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Protein blends usually consists of whey and casein, with different proportions for different brands. Whey is absorbed faster, casein slower.
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QUOTE(ijnek @ May 31 2011, 04:57 PM)
ok.
i hv a problem with plain whey protein, cause me constipation.
so i put that into the shake i take.

i was takin whey for a couple of mths n my weight nvr really increase or anything.i dun feel any bigger or anything.

with the change to the protein blend + psyllium husk, i notice better improvement.

i can't really say i am bigger, as i lost my measurement which i kept on the ex-iphone. but i feel bigger and i do hv a friend who used to go to the gym with me tellin me i'm bigger....

the theory is that the shake pass through our intestine too fast for proper absorption, so the psyllium husk helps to slow down the passing rate and allows more to be absorb.
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QUOTE(ijnek @ May 31 2011, 04:57 PM)
ok.
i hv a problem with plain whey protein, cause me constipation.
so i put that into the shake i take.

i was takin whey for a couple of mths n my weight nvr really increase or anything.i dun feel any bigger or anything.

with the change to the protein blend + psyllium husk, i notice better improvement.

i can't really say i am bigger, as i lost my measurement which i kept on the ex-iphone. but i feel bigger and i do hv a friend who used to go to the gym with me tellin me i'm bigger....

the theory is that the shake pass through our intestine too fast for proper absorption, so the psyllium husk helps to slow down the passing rate and allows more to be absorb.
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 31 2011, 09:52 PM)
cool, but wouldnt the husk make ure throat itchy when u shake with protein and gulp it?...
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Psyllium husks absorb water like crazy. I'm sure you've seen the way they just puff up when you put them in water. And nope, when you mix it with water, it has a sort of jelly-like texture.
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QUOTE(jamis @ May 29 2011, 10:14 AM)
Most of them have caffeine thou..... any one of them without?
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try pill/capsule form pre-workout. no caffeine
usplabs yok3d. new stuff
nutrex niox
muscletech nano vapor
what else r..


as for protein....
protein blend for me! myofusion, snytha6, infusion black,super quad protein
no need to buy and drink bcaa,casein,whey separately rite?
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QUOTE(-Dan @ May 31 2011, 10:34 PM)
Psyllium husks absorb water like crazy. I'm sure you've seen the way they just puff up when you put them in water. And nope, when you mix it with water, it has a sort of jelly-like texture.
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aah... reminds me of weet bix soaked in milk for long hours... never did see them got puffed up... but i have seen coconut flour being very absorbent... if u pour a layer of water on top of the flour, by 5 seconds, its dry... and the flour still looks almost like flour lol

was quite skeptical at first since i know it is a well known supplement for constipation... but if it works well with whey, might as well try it since it is derived from natural plant source..
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 1 2011, 01:39 AM)
try pill/capsule form pre-workout. no caffeine
usplabs yok3d. new stuff
nutrex niox
muscletech nano vapor
what else r..
as for protein....
protein blend for me! myofusion, snytha6, infusion black,super quad protein
no need to buy and drink bcaa,casein,whey separately rite?
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yea that another thing. Whats the dillio with all the supporting supps like BCAA, etc. Do we actually need that considering that there are already a healthy amount of them including in the protein supps itself. What are your thoughts on this?
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moringi super mass gainer
preworkout super mass gainer
postworkout sytha 6 or on whey

is better or

preworkout sytha 6 or on whey
postworkout super mass gainer
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no problem with it puffin up. cos u drink immediately after u shake.
i give it to my little girl, mix with ribena when she has constipation.
well, she likes it.
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 1 2011, 01:39 AM)
try pill/capsule form pre-workout. no caffeine
usplabs yok3d. new stuff
nutrex niox
muscletech nano vapor
what else r..
as for protein....
protein blend for me! myofusion, snytha6, infusion black,super quad protein
no need to buy and drink bcaa,casein,whey separately rite?
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what is ur suggestion between myofusion and black infusion nutrex? which will be better?
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does anyone know where to buy graspari protein in penang? went to gnc tarak.. if order from lyn, tmr dont get to drink d... need workout seriously!


Added on June 1, 2011, 3:03 pmfyi, i used to buy in pj...come back penang for 2 months for holiday and need to get one today...

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QUOTE(raymannlucas @ Jun 1 2011, 03:03 PM)
does anyone know where to buy graspari protein in penang? went to gnc tarak.. if order from lyn, tmr dont get to drink d... need workout seriously!


Added on June 1, 2011, 3:03 pmfyi, i used to buy in pj...come back penang for 2 months for holiday and need to get one today...
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have been looking for 2 days...cant find any...sigh...hv been going gym for past 2 days without protein its like without fuel...
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I dun think u should rely on protein powder to give u energy for workout. Get ur pre wo meals rite.
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QUOTE(Dharmain @ Jun 1 2011, 09:33 AM)
yea that another thing. Whats the dillio with all the supporting supps like BCAA, etc. Do we actually need that considering that there are already a healthy amount of them including in the protein supps itself. What are your thoughts on this?
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Guys, is myofusion HYDRO different from the ori myofusion?
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Guys, is myofusion HYDRO different from the ori myofusion?
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Thanks for the info. Any comment about Nutrex muscle infusion black compared to say Myofusion or ON whey?
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im a 21 yrs ENDOMORPH male. need to gain energy and strength during workout and recover faster after workout. i've read some articles that mostly said scivation xtend was freakinly amazing. what do you say ?

*currently consume nitrotech hc proseries as a protein blend and lipo-6 black ultra as a fat burner.
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QUOTE(lionshamlan @ Jun 2 2011, 11:43 PM)
im a 21 yrs ENDOMORPH male. need to gain energy and strength during workout and recover faster after workout. i've read some articles that mostly said scivation xtend was freakinly amazing. what do you say ?

*currently consume nitrotech hc proseries as a protein blend and lipo-6 black ultra as a fat burner.
thx before
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im taking hemorage now for preworkout, can really feel extra strenght & focus, but my fren not much feel.
As for recovery, i take true mass as my protein source, but i think is not suitable for u as it is a gainer, u may try ON 100% whey
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Guys how much you paying for Myofusion now?

Sup with Ejinutritions?
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QUOTE(ahfish7 @ Jun 3 2011, 08:43 AM)
im taking hemorage now for preworkout, can really feel extra strenght & focus, but my fren not much feel.
As for recovery, i take true mass as my protein source, but i think is not suitable for u as it is a gainer, u may try ON 100% whey
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i already consumed nitrotech hardcore pro series as a protein. and for hemorage, i dont think nutrex product is comfortable to me. cause i see too many directions there,and if you dont follow that hundred directions, that will be a problem.

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Guys how much you paying for Myofusion now?

Sup with Ejinutritions?
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Guys how much you paying for Myofusion now?

Sup with Ejinutritions?
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RM165 but now "out of stock".
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Binabadan is also selling at the same price, but need to buy combo:

http://binabadan.com/store/index.php?manufacturers_id=2

just need to pay slightly more on the shipping, but it's dirt cheap nevertheless. trusted seller, bought from them b4, usually give samples and free gifts also, with good customer service too (something ejinutrition is lacking of)

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RM165 but now "out of stock".
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Any idea how long it takes to re-stock?

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Sifus, should I take myofusion of on whey since I'm a beginner ? Wich one is a better post workout supplement ?
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Yes!

MHP Dark matter!
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Huh ? So is it whey or myo which is better ? Whats MHP Dark matter ?
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Huh ? So is it whey or myo which is better ?  Whats MHP Dark matter ?
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myofusion is a brand from gaspari nutrition which is containing whey protein,bro. the people here want to suggest you to consume whey protein from gaspari which is MYOFUSION.

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Added on June 4, 2011, 12:10 amguys,what about herbalife nutrition usability as gym purposed?

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QUOTE(soundworks @ Jun 3 2011, 10:57 PM)
Huh ? So is it whey or myo which is better ?  Whats MHP Dark matter ?
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Do you even know whats Myofusion?

You asked whats better for post workout,MHP Dark matter is!

QUOTE(lionshamlan @ Jun 3 2011, 11:12 PM)
guys,what about herbalife nutrition usability as gym purposed?
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Basically useless,protein content is freaking low.
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pedro, he was asking which is better, ON whey or Myofusion for postworkout.

my answer: no difference to me, and i have tried both. myofusion keeps u filled for longer, though. taste nicer too
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QUOTE(soundworks @ Jun 3 2011, 07:41 PM)
Sifus, should I take myofusion of or on whey since I'm a beginner ? Wich one is a better post workout supplement ?
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pedro, he was asking which is better, ON whey or Myofusion for postworkout.

my answer: no difference to me, and i have tried both. myofusion keeps u filled for longer, though. taste nicer too
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lol, tbh i misread it the first time as well. guys fault for not spell checking before posting!
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QUOTE(lionshamlan @ Jun 3 2011, 11:12 PM)
myofusion is a brand from gaspari nutrition which is containing whey protein,bro. the people here want to suggest you to consume whey protein from gaspari which is MYOFUSION.

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Added on June 4, 2011, 12:10 amguys,what about herbalife nutrition usability as gym purposed?
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Yea how about herbalife ?? They sell soy and whey protein powder ! Can it be used for post workout since it's whey ? It suggests that we take 2 scoops which is a total of 10g of protein . Can mix with on or myo together?
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Yea how about herbalife ?? They sell soy and whey protein powder ! Can it be used for post workout since it's whey ? It suggests that we take 2 scoops which is a total of 10g of protein . Can mix with on or myo together?
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Didn't you read pedro's post? 2 scoops gives you 10g of protein? That is a downright embarrassment. In comparison, ON whey has ~24g in ONE scoop. You'll end up spending more if you buy herbacrap because you'll have to make up for the lack in protein per serving by using more servings.
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QUOTE(soundworks @ Jun 4 2011, 05:42 PM)
Yea how about herbalife ?? They sell soy and whey protein powder ! Can it be used for post workout since it's whey ? It suggests that we take 2 scoops which is a total of 10g of protein . Can mix with on or myo together?
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try comparing the protein content to any other whey protein brands out there. compare the price too.
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i calculated b4, per gram of protein from my myofusion costs about RM0.10. which is reasonable.
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well my mom buys herbalife and i drink the whey ocassionally so is it okay if i mix it together with on /myo ?
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QUOTE(soundworks @ Jun 4 2011, 09:02 PM)
well my mom buys herbalife and i drink the whey ocassionally so is it okay if i mix it together with on /myo ?
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well my mom buys herbalife and i drink the whey ocassionally so is it okay if i mix it together with on /myo ?
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Haha.. I do take those herbalifr stuff myo n those whey.. Thats for 2 hours b4 my workout..
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anyone know if nutrabolics mass fusion is good?
i believe its a new product.. not many reviews on the net..

and anyone knows where to get it.. besides musclemania.com
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thats the one with 30 servings right?

if it is 30 servings, that is super cheap and affordable mass gainer.

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yeahhh... its like 16lbs or something...
31 serving..
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any idea whats the best milk to add with whey for bulking ? sad.gif
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any idea whats the best milk to add with whey for bulking ? sad.gif
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i add marigold hl, yummy
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 10 2011, 09:12 PM)
My stack is:-
Controlled Labs Glycergrow
Controlled Labs White Flood
Controlled Labs Purple In Train
Controlled Labs Green Magnitude
Gaspari's Myofusion
Controlled Labs Orange Triad

Yes I'm a CL freak. =P
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just got this today, nutrabolics isobolic whey protein:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nbol/isobolic.html
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2673271

review
- tastes great, comparable with myofusion if not nicer
- mixes very very well, no clumps at all and i didnt even shake it that hard.
- quite thick, though not as thick as myofusion, but definitely thicker than ON Whey
- Doesnt have the very sweet taste of myofusion, which is a plus point for me
- not very filling, already hungry and its not even an hour after i had the shake
- slightly more expensive than both myofusion and ON whey (RM 200)

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What post workput can I get that is effective ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Spacase @ Jun 9 2011, 01:04 AM)
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MHP Dark matter from EGO!
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is dark matter really effective?
it seems pretty expensive, but if it's really damn good, i wan to give it a try...

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lately many new brand of protein being release but not really much review of it.. I still stick to the gaspari, ON and nutrex.

Anyone tried lipoprotein? btw, what MHP dark matter do?
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They r having sales now, if anyone wants:

http://binabadan.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=192

From wat I read it increases the insulin for better absorption of protein.
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Somehow i read it from somewhere if u mix maltodextrine and dextrose 50:50 ratio, it gives a better osmolarity and some of the site criticize on waxy maize starch being over rated.
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I dont think waxy maize is overrated. I mix it with my postworkout shake n i realise my muscles still feel full relative to when i wasnt on it. Im on cutting diet n my only source of carbs are oats and weetbix, potato n waxy maize . So far im liking it, price is good as well, ego has waxy maize for rm110 for 90 scoops, each scoop has 30gm carb. Will last u a very long time if u only take
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QUOTE(Darah Harimau @ Jun 9 2011, 12:24 PM)
I dont think waxy maize is overrated. I mix it with my postworkout shake n i realise my muscles still feel full relative to when i wasnt on it. Im on cutting diet n my only source of carbs are oats and weetbix, potato n waxy maize . So far im liking it, price is good as well, ego has waxy maize for rm110 for 90 scoops, each scoop has 30gm  carb. Will last u a very long time if u only take
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Someone edited a post here? A moment ago, there is a very long description about meal before I refresh the page.... Anyone saw that? thought of reading it after come back from toilet... Now is missing...
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dunno la, very confusing when u search it in the google, just as long as the stuff works then it will do hehe tongue.gif
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I have to say i dont have much experience in this and im barely 1/3 thru the tub, but i noticed from reading kmaru's blog that he also used it while cutting for his competition. Maybe he can shed some light on it. Best if it comes from someone with experience like him haha.
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hey guys, want to ask some question, currently i'm taking mass gainer, beside supplement, still need to take others vitamin or others food ? what should i eat or drink ?
now every day only drink half scoop of the supplement for 1 day 1 time.
targeting bulk... 1 week 2 or 3 times for gym.

any suggestion ?
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 9 2011, 03:55 PM)
hey guys, want to ask some question, currently i'm taking mass gainer, beside supplement, still need to take others vitamin or others food ? what should i eat or drink ?
now every day only drink half scoop of the supplement for 1 day 1 time.
targeting bulk... 1 week 2 or 3 times for gym.

any suggestion ?
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The per serving of the mass gainer is 1/2 scoop? blink.gif
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The per serving of the mass gainer is 1/2 scoop?  blink.gif
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ya, coz im worry about it gain fast and unable to control, so i take less... actually how should i take it per day ?
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read the lable, if it's per serving 1 scoops then just take full scoop la. I'm taking 3 scoops whey protein per day btw, it depends on yourself actually. If you think you've not enough protein/carbohydrate then just take extra
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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jun 9 2011, 03:55 PM)
hey guys, want to ask some question, currently i'm taking mass gainer, beside supplement, still need to take others vitamin or others food ? what should i eat or drink ?
now every day only drink half scoop of the supplement for 1 day 1 time.
targeting bulk... 1 week 2 or 3 times for gym.

any suggestion ?
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wanna bulk? increase your calorie.
if you eat enough, u dun even need supplement.
if you don't, don't try to save your supplement, just drink.
see the label, one serving gives you how much calories.
sometimes, one serving could b 3-4 scoops.
so far most of the mass gainers have more than 1 scoop per serving unless the scoop is xtra big.

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 9 2011, 04:51 PM)
wanna bulk? increase your calorie.
if you eat enough, u dun even need supplement.
if you don't, don't try to save your supplement, just drink.
see the label, one serving gives you how much calories.
sometimes, one serving could b 3-4 scoops.
so far most of the mass gainers have more than 1 scoop per serving unless the scoop is xtra big.
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beside mass gainer, still eat others vitamin ? or other supplement ?
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it's all up to u.
read up the supps fact.
read wat they do.
then u decide whether to take it or not.
for me if u r a beginner, get the basic things like protein n multivits.
then from there u can move on to other things like pre wo NO, pwo recovery, etc.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 9 2011, 05:17 PM)
it's all up to u.
read up the supps fact.
read wat they do.
then u decide whether to take it or not.
for me if u r a beginner, get the basic things like protein n multivits.
then from there u can move on to other things like pre wo NO, pwo recovery, etc.
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what about those medicine ? the protein like medicine...sebiji biji
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any online sellers selling ON's essential amino energy?
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hello,

Im a newbie on the supplementation after im been running for 2 years.

yesterday just consumed proflex20 protein mix shake from Melaleuca this morning after run.

I have question want to ask:

I had TRX class session on Wednesday morning, and Thursday morning 10km run and this morning 10km run as well. My muscle feel sore on uppper body part on Thurs...

So, how fast recovery its will take after i had my protein shake? i thinks its much depends on individual, but on generally how long? any idea?

Thank you.
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Sorry,
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but the tub is only 70% full, is it normal?
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yup.. thats normal.. i wish when i open the tub, the powder is so full until it is just right under the cover...
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has anyone tried superpump 250 orange/rasp lemonade? which is better?
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jun 10 2011, 01:52 PM)
hello,

Im a newbie on the supplementation after im been running for 2 years.

yesterday just consumed proflex20 protein mix shake from Melaleuca this morning after run.

I have question want to ask: 

I had TRX class session on Wednesday morning, and Thursday morning 10km run and this morning 10km run as well. My muscle feel sore on uppper body part on Thurs...

So, how fast recovery its will take after i had my protein shake? i thinks its much depends on individual, but on generally how long? any idea?

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1 or 2 days I guess..
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Guys , my friend gave me something pink that day .. I think its called Pink Magic ... Can you guys comment if you've taken it ?
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hye guys. any of u guys taking simple carbs right after workout?

what do u guys take? vitargo? glucolin?

any cheap alternatives to recommend?


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Guys , my friend gave me something pink that day .. I think its called Pink Magic ... Can you guys comment if you've taken it ?
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since you have why not YOU comment instead? shakehead.gif
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hye guys. any of u guys taking simple carbs right after workout?

what do u guys take? vitargo? glucolin?

any cheap alternatives to recommend?
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Waxy Maize Starch / Dextrose / Maltodextrin ?
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 12 2011, 08:20 AM)
since you have why not YOU comment instead?  shakehead.gif
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Well it made my veins on my arm and shoulder pop out .. More pumped .. focused ... and my bench increased to 85 from 82.5 comfortably ... and of course my other exercises could do more reps

Wanna ask if anyone else here took it ?
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QUOTE(x-199Tx @ Jun 12 2011, 09:24 AM)
Well it made my veins on my arm and shoulder pop out .. More pumped .. focused ... and my bench increased to 85 from 82.5 comfortably ... and of course my other exercises could do more reps

Wanna ask if anyone else here took it ?
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I was wondering whether anyone stack NO with testbooster just to get the extra strength n pump lol
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Jun 12 2011, 08:46 AM)
Waxy Maize Starch / Dextrose / Maltodextrin ?
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any suggestion on the these products? the cheaper the better!
currently i`m eyeing on Primaforce Carbslam (waxy maize ) in egonutrition website. around 100 per tub.
any cheaper alternatives? hmm.gif

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