so its a no go for you?

I have yet to get mine... was wondering if i should try SP250 first or just jump straight to SPMax...

you mean max stronger than 250? lol... yea i wondered why the price is higher when in us stores they introduce back the same price... zZZz

yes i know... but everywhere seems to sell more expensive... are you selling any cheaper?

aih.. sudah beli baru post... ditakdir tak dapat beli promo price lol

just to inform you guys, ON has came out with an even competitive formula than MT:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/plat...drobuilder.html


now, just need time before it slowly gets here

yeah... I personally use a mixture of myofusion/on whey/on casein and a separate tub of creapure micro... its the most basic solid combination for me, been using it for few years...

never tried any hydro stuff from them, it is still pricey ever since launched, but good to know that they are introducing another good product in.

I was referring to on's hydro platinum products:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/plat..._hydrowhey.html


3.5lbs for rm210 from reyzai... can't find many sellers here.... but even in US it is quite pricey imho...

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Added on May 17, 2011, 8:43 pmThey still never learn. Still enjoy pushing up their house brand, while Ego introduces many kind of brands which is what consumers want, a variety of brands which works, not just one GNC this and that brand.

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: May 17 2011, 08:43 PM

Which is their house brand, GNC

lol, soon you will understand acne (if you are lucky)

yup.... but i guess as long as u drink more water would be fine... i used to take optimen, for the 1st week i felt i'm very heaty... then came those acne, upped my water intake... they slowly subsided

no idea why, it just pop up all over my face when i started optimen... perhaps it was dehydrating? lol

mana ade -__-... optimen bau sangat busuk lol...sure can differentiate them, not sure about steroids though

creatine made me dehydrated but doesnt make me feel like my body temp was rising...

this optimen however... i realize i feel damn hot even in office even with my sleeves rolled up... usually i would roll down during morning and roll up by evening... but when i was with optimen, even rolling up before i enter the office, feeling hot all day lol and yes there were a few occasions my nose had blood, i wasnt sure if it was the combination of creatine and optimen, but i've been taking creatine steadily on workout days only, while optimen daily... and when i started taking more water it slighly reduce the heaty effect, heck when i pee i feel that it isnt that warm anymore compared to before i up the water intake.. lol

Hey peeps, I've recently started taking xtend blue raspberry flavour and I swear each time I take it, be it intra workout or sipping throughout the day I would get terrible headaches. Only taking 2 scoops each time, with approx 0.75 to 1L . Any sifus here having that experience?... I just feel like selling that tub away now.......Thx!

*How does your blue raspberry taste? Did it taste like asam boi juice -__-" ?

Darn... this blue raspberry tasted pretty sour... dont look forward taking it. I usually take 2 scoops most of the time. (Just got it a week ago). Today I tried upping to 3 scoops to see if this was the cause of the headache, And bingo! I had the worst headache I could ever get in a long while...

1st time on xtend, but I seriously felt the taste was more of some kind of asam boi than sour berries...

btw, how many scoops and with how much water do u take each time?

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: May 24 2011, 10:08 PM

lol, one of these days those with diff xtend flavours should gather and exchange samples... then we can decide what we should really go for instead of buying one tub and suffer through it if one dislikes that flavour

but i see many happy sifu's above not heaving any prob with the headache... i shall experiment it further more, eg 1 scoop with 0.75L instead for a while and see how it goes...

i have blue raspberry here, exchange point --> jaya33/menara tm lol

i figured out sizeon pricey (and i still have some creatine mono too lol) ...so i decided to try something more worth the buck dulu... manatau each consumption somehow gave me headache... now i really headache with what to do with it if i still get headache by using until next week...



This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: May 25 2011, 11:33 AM

Wah ure nuts... if I do that, won't be able to focus on my lifts... most likely I'll have to do that if this pesky headache continues...

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Added on May 25, 2011, 2:28 pmyep first time, i had no idea which one does, but I googled around and I found several factors:

1. i'm hypoglycemic ? hence bcaa reduces my serotonin and the headache + fatigue starts to kick in?

2. sucrolase? too much sucrolase would trigger the headache? (but i dont think this would be it as even ON whey and myofusion has sucrolase... unless xtend uses way more sucrolase per scoop than the protein shakes)

even for glutamate, it is also in ON whey.. never get any headaches with them. ON whey has been good to me since day 1. Heck when ON whey has BCAA's inside. I really don't feel factor 1 could be the cause, unless I'm taking way too much BCAA? lol

*one reason i choose to go with xtend was many mentioned about the tasty drink, but blue raspberry was really a fail to me lol

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: May 25 2011, 02:28 PM