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TSvin_ann
post May 7 2008, 10:35 PM, updated 18y ago

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Let's continue your discussion in this new thread.

1. Visa
2. Mastercard.
3. JCB
4. AMEX - Charge or Credit Card
5. Diners Club
6. Etc.

1. Annual fee matters

No need to request for waiver
CIMB Direct Access Platimum and Gold - requirement Professional/Graduate.
UOB Platinum - got to have BOTH MasterCard and Visa and swipe minimum 6 times/card.
Alliance Platinum - swipe 12 times a year or spend RM3,000/year.
RHB Evo - got to swipe once a month or RM8 is charged for that month.
OCBC Platinum Robinson - got to spend RM8K/year inclusive of minimum RM1K at Robinson
MBB Flex -got to swipe twice a month or else charged RM3.95
Citibank Choice - 2 transactions in a month
CIMB Mastercard Paypass - free for life without conditions

2. Tap and Go - no signature required matters

Visa Wave - MBB, UOB
Mastercard Paypass - CIMB, CIMB DA
Visa payWave - MBB Petronas

Paypass limited to RM120
Visa Wave limit should be RM150


3. Important Notice for CIMB and CIMB DA card holders

New CIMB i-pay.plan

4. Credit Card linked to Petrol Giants

BHP-UOB
Shell-Citibank
AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.
Petronas-MBB Visa Gold with payWave (free for life with no conditions)
Petronas-CIMB Mastercard Gold (free for life)
All petrol brands with CIMB DA Mastercard with rebate up to 2% monthly*.


5. Standard financial charge (interest rate)

Retails purchases: 18% p.a or 1.5% p.m from statement date upon paying the minimum amount.
Cash advance: 18% p.a from the date of withdrawal.
Late payment: 1% of outstanding or RM 5 whichever is higher.
Minimum payment amount: 5% of outstanding or RM 25/RM 50 whichever is higher.

*warming
new BNM ruling whereby if you are not a full pay master of your credit card for the past 12 months, beginning from June/July 2008, all your transactions would be charged finance charges (17% p.a.) the moment you swipe. It means irregardless what you buy be it petrol or PC parts, it will have finance charges starting on the transaction date itself.

6. Complementary Cards

1) Citibank - Just deposit and maintain RM200k
2) UOB - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
3) Standard Chartered - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k
4) OCBC - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
5) HSBC - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k

7. Amex - Charge card
AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.

Another benefit AMEX have over others is that they presently have 6 months 0% installment for any transaction. AMEX is truly 0% as they is no handling or surchage fees as compared to DA and UOB.

8. International Transactions
Mastercard and Visa charges a surcharge on top of the exchange rate. The banks also choose to charge an additional administration charge on top of that

Maybank: 0.5% (waiting verification)

CIMB/DA: None

Hong Leong: 1%

PBB: No Info

Citibank: 1% --> verified by tinkerbel

HSBC: 1% --> HSBC will also charge a Misc fee; bank isn't able to provide details on what that is but according to CS whom I spoke with, there's a small misc fee. (contribution by Tinkerbel)

EON: 2%

UOB: NIL

Standard Chartered: 1%

Credit Card Cancellation Letter

[Your name]
[Your address]
[Date]

Dear Sir or Madam:

Please let this letter serve as notice that I am terminating my credit card account effective immediately. Please close the following account:

Credit Card Company: ____________
Account Number: ________________

Please send me written confirmation that my account has been closed. Also, please confirm that you have notified all appropriate credit card bureaus that this account was closed at my request.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
[Your Signature]



Credit Card V2 Thread

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post May 7 2008, 10:55 PM

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@vin_ann,
U forgot to mention Complementary Cards (it was first brought up by lwb if I'm not mistaken). Most banks do give these complementary cards out:-

1) Citibank - Just deposit and maintain RM200k
2) UOB - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
3) Standard Chartered - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k
4) OCBC - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
5) HSBC - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k

Am not sure about MBB, CIMB, PBB, HLB.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 7 2008, 10:55 PM)
@vin_ann,
U forgot to mention Complementary Cards (it was first brought up by lwb if I'm not mistaken).  Most banks do give these complementary cards out:-

1) Citibank - Just deposit and maintain RM200k
2) UOB - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
3) Standard Chartered - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k
4) OCBC - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
5) HSBC - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k

Am not sure about MBB, CIMB, PBB, HLB.
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today applied UOB card coz KESIAN the credit card lady..... she gave me a toiletry bag which i hav many better at house....
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post May 7 2008, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 7 2008, 10:58 PM)
today applied UOB card coz KESIAN the credit card lady..... she gave me a toiletry bag which i hav many better at house....
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UOB One Card?
then u have the chances of wining the 50% off petrol for 1 year. haha.
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@yewkhuay,
Nice or not the toiletry back? Nememind lah.. next time U come over me house stay the night, bring the bag along - that way you can keep ur toothbrush and shaver inside it tongue.gif

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post May 7 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 7 2008, 10:58 PM)
today applied UOB card coz KESIAN the credit card lady..... she gave me a toiletry bag which i hav many better at house....
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beside apply the card,did u get her phone number? tongue.gif
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@wvt,
U don't tell me u apply credit card only because U want to kau lui?! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 7 2008, 11:01 PM)
UOB One Card?
then u have the chances of wining the 50% off petrol for 1 year. haha.
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got such thing? she didn't tell me...

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 7 2008, 11:01 PM)
@yewkhuay,
Nice or not the toiletry back?  Nememind lah.. next time U come over me house stay the night, bring the bag along - that way you can keep ur toothbrush and shaver inside it tongue.gif
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when can i come over???? blush.gif

QUOTE(wvt @ May 7 2008, 11:12 PM)
beside apply the card,did u get her phone number? tongue.gif
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oh, u wan?
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@tinkerbel,
For CIMB (via entry to CLUB CIMB), I can't see a similar availability for a Complementary Card but instead they offer a pre-approved CIMB Enrich Mastercard Platinum. The requirements for CLUB CIMB would be ...

Individual depositor with a credit balance of RM150,000 and above.
Individual Unit trust investor with an investment amount of RM100,000 and above purchased through the bank.
Individual mortgage customer with a good track record and facilities of RM500,000 and above.
New mortgage customers with facilities of RM500,000 and above.
Individual holding a credit card with a limit of RM75,000 and above with good track record.

However, if you were to dig further into the card Q&A, it mentioned about the a chargeable annual fee of RM388 p.a. for Principle and RM198 p.a. for supplementary cards.


Added on May 7, 2008, 11:30 pm
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@yewkhuay,
Nice or not the toiletry back?  Nememind lah.. next time U come over me house stay the night, bring the bag along - that way you can keep ur toothbrush and shaver inside it tongue.gif
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I got many nice toiletries bag from my trips. (I get to stay many nights ?) tongue.gif

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post May 7 2008, 11:31 PM

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@hye,
With so many banks offering 'free' cards I wouldn't want/need to pay such subscription! Am not interested in a CIMB Credit Card anyways *grins* Already have a DA so that's good enough *grins*

Er.. U got to get yewkhuay's permission, then my folks and then the rest of the darling's! tongue.gif

@yewkhuay,
U come over often enough what! Don't pretend pretend lah !!! blink.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 7 2008, 11:31 PM)
@hye,
With so many banks offering 'free' cards I wouldn't want/need to pay such subscription!  Am not interested in a CIMB Credit Card anyways *grins*  Already have a DA so that's good enough *grins*

Er.. U got to get yewkhuay's permission, then my folks and then the rest of the darling's! tongue.gif

@yewkhuay,
U come over often enough what! Don't pretend pretend lah !!!  blink.gif
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@hye,
queue up! bro...

@tinkerbel,

but i haven't even entered ur lovely room..... laugh.gif
enuf for spamming....

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 7 2008, 11:31 PM)
@hye,
With so many banks offering 'free' cards I wouldn't want/need to pay such subscription!  Am not interested in a CIMB Credit Card anyways *grins*  Already have a DA so that's good enough *grins*
Yeah DA cards are good enough actually. The only downside is their reward system sucks yawn.gif


Added on May 7, 2008, 11:40 pm
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@hye,
queue up! bro...
Just trying my luck ... blush.gif (Still queuing)


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post May 7 2008, 11:57 PM

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@hye,
You're absolutely right. I don't like it that their points expire yearly but I don't use it as my primary card so it's ok i guess, just use it for whenever I need; such as 30% discount off Beauty & The Beast tickets, etc smile.gif
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my hsbc card reject liau.I also donno why =(

is hsbc very strict?normally do hsbc give high credit?

how about alliance bank?i see many alliance bank agent promote credit card now.requirement for gold and plat more high for alliance.anyone got their card?
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@siutimtim,
HSBC rejected ur card? Now that's weird cause I didn't think it was that difficult to obtain a HSBC card. Everyone I know who applied for a HSBC card received theirs.

Yes it does seem that HSBC gives pretty high credit limit - I've just slightly above RM50k credit from HSBC.
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direct accesspoint last for 3 years...
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@arsenal,
I'm surprised cause I first started using me card last year and the points which were accumulated expired last November; I only found out in December! Should I call and make a big fuss?
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QUOTE(arsenal @ May 8 2008, 12:10 AM)
direct accesspoint last for 3 years...
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Only if you are a Platinum card holder. Gold card holder points last for only 1 year.

@tinkerbel .... there's nothin wrong with your points statement
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@siutimtim,
HSBC rejected ur card?  Now that's weird cause I didn't think it was that difficult to obtain a HSBC card.  Everyone I know who applied for a HSBC card received theirs.

Yes it does seem that HSBC gives pretty high credit limit - I've just slightly above RM50k credit from HSBC.
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can use ur card to pay d/p for a house dy...... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 8 2008, 12:27 AM)
Only if you are a Platinum card holder. Gold card holder points last for only 1 year.

@tinkerbel .... there's nothin wrong with your points statement
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i dont think so...because my statement showed the points expiry around 2010...so 3 years kua...
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QUOTE(arsenal @ May 8 2008, 07:27 AM)
i dont think so...because my statement showed the points expiry around 2010...so 3 years kua...
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I can confirm that too. I just checked my statement.
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QUOTE(arsenal @ May 8 2008, 07:27 AM)
i dont think so...because my statement showed the points expiry around 2010...so 3 years kua...
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blush.gif My mistake.
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No worries. Somebody did tell me that DA points are valid for one year.
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So what's the final conclusion here?! Are the points valid 1 Year or are they valid 3 Years?! If 3 Years my points from last year should be valid till 2009! Ah well, I don't have sufficient points to redeem stuff anyways.

@yewkhuay,
You actually do have a point. I should check with developer if I could make payment through credit card - I need additional RM50k (over and above the RM30k booking fee) to make up the 1st 10% upon signing of S&P [it's not my fault lawyer's haven't called!]. With that, I should have sufficient points for that Samsonite bag rclxms.gif

Oh No! Samsonite bag's from Citibank and my credit with them's <RM15k!!! *ugh*
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2008, 08:29 AM)
So what's the final conclusion here?!  Are the points valid 1 Year or are they valid 3 Years?!  If 3 Years my points from last year should be valid till 2009!  Ah well, I don't have sufficient points to redeem stuff anyways.

@yewkhuay,
You actually do have a point.  I should check with developer if I could make payment through credit card - I need additional RM50k (over and above the RM30k booking fee) to make up the 1st 10% upon signing of S&P [it's not my fault lawyer's haven't called!].  With that, I should have sufficient points for that Samsonite bag  rclxms.gif

Oh No!  Samsonite bag's from Citibank and my credit with them's <RM15k!!! *ugh*
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Check your statement (at the bottom right side).

My statement said 2011.
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@David83,
I do not use DA as my primary card; only when there are 'good buys' or discounts hence don't have monthly statements. Statement comes only when I've charged something to the card. I'll see if I could find one from last month; don't usually keep the statements *grins* But should have 1 lying around in the office somewhere! doh.gif

Will check and revert later.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2008, 08:39 AM)
@David83,
I do not use DA as my primary card; only when there are 'good buys' or discounts hence don't have monthly statements.  Statement comes only when I've charged something to the card.  I'll see if I could find one from last month; don't usually keep the statements *grins*  But should have 1 lying around in the office somewhere!  doh.gif

Will check and revert later.
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Same goes to me. DA is also not my primary CC.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2008, 12:05 AM)
@siutimtim,
HSBC rejected ur card?  Now that's weird cause I didn't think it was that difficult to obtain a HSBC card.  Everyone I know who applied for a HSBC card received theirs.

Yes it does seem that HSBC gives pretty high credit limit - I've just slightly above RM50k credit from HSBC.
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I got rejected by HSBC last year also tongue.gif
My company is banking salary there, they know how much I'm getting a month sweat.gif
Maybe they don't like I write a cheque every month and transfer 99% to another bank to reduce house loan.

Anyway, come to think of it... not a loss as I won't be using it much either.

QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 8 2008, 12:59 AM)
can use ur card to pay d/p for a house dy...... hmm.gif
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Depends on the developer. I managed to swipe 5k or 10k (forgot) wink.gif without additional charges couple of years ago. They only allow a fixed max amount, e.g. 10k. Not 10% of the purchase price.
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Correction for Visa Wave and Paypass.
Paypass transaction limit should be RM120 while Visa Wave limit should be RM150
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RM50k credit?That one is plati card?My RM5k also don have.haha
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ May 7 2008, 11:59 PM)
my hsbc card reject liau.I also donno why =(

is hsbc very strict?normally do hsbc give high credit?

how about alliance bank?i see many alliance bank agent promote credit card now.requirement for gold and plat more high for alliance.anyone got their card?
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i dun thinks HSBC will give higher credit. its all depends on the individual. for the fresh grad, the credit will be low. while my DA gives me the highest credit among others.


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Correction for Visa Wave and Paypass.
Paypass transaction limit should be RM120 while Visa Wave limit should be RM150
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updated. biggrin.gif

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If I got gold card or platinum card but income not high,I can apply Alliance or UOB standard gold or platinum card?

The agent say will give back same card type but if income not that high they approve or not?

UOB and Alliance bank black colour platinum card very pretty.Can use ONE plat apply that platinum card or not?HAHA. (I know can not la because ONE plat is cheap type punya platinum =(

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@cute_boboi,
I don't think HSBC looks at it that way - at the v least, ur account is seen as 'active' ! smile.gif I've no idea why they rejected ur application though *grins*

I'll definitely check if credit card facilities are available; they probably don't allow cause they've got to pay the 0.3% either to Visa or Mastercard and U know lah... developers a.k.a. kiamsiap!

@siutimtim,
I've <RM15k on my HSBC Gold Visa and the remaining credit from my HSBC Premier Mastercard. Don't hold any HSBC Platinum though.

You can always put in an application to UOB / Alliance for it; no harm and it's free anyways smile.gif

And what's so nice with the UOB / Alliance Black Platinum card? It's just a card and it's just a colour right? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ May 8 2008, 01:00 PM)
If I got gold card or platinum card but income not high,I can apply Alliance or UOB standard gold or platinum card?

The agent say will give back same card type but if income not that high they approve or not?

UOB and Alliance bank black colour platinum card very pretty.Can use ONE plat apply that platinum card or not?HAHA. (I know can not la because ONE plat is cheap type punya platinum =(
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Why do you want to have so many cards?

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@Dyong,
Cause dont' have cash in the wallet, need these cards to make the wallet look bulkier, just to well u know, impress the gals tongue.gif
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@Dyong,
Cause dont' have cash in the wallet, need these cards to make the wallet look bulkier, just to well u know, impress the gals tongue.gif
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ May 8 2008, 01:00 PM)
If I got gold card or platinum card but income not high,I can apply Alliance or UOB standard gold or platinum card?

The agent say will give back same card type but if income not that high they approve or not?

UOB and Alliance bank black colour platinum card very pretty.Can use ONE plat apply that platinum card or not?HAHA. (I know can not la because ONE plat is cheap type punya platinum =(
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One Platinum is not classified as same as normal platinum, as far as I knew.

Anyway, just the colour of card different, why bother so much?

Silver, gold, platinum, blue, red etc., still a credit card which when machine read it, no different as a credit card.

One can have gold card with credit limit of 50K while another one with platinum with credit limit of 20K only.


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Why do you want to have so many cards?
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Different cards can access different offers and discounts mah.
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QUOTE(jchong @ May 8 2008, 04:53 PM)
Different cards can access different offers and discounts mah.
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If all card free,more card also can if I control my card use biggrin.gif If guy got plat card I also more like go out with him tongue.gif

Also check all website plat card really get many extra offer. nod.gif

actually any low income people but can get plat card?possible?
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I also like having many cards, which include debit n loyalty cards..
Got 5 cc fr 3 banks, 4 debit cards.. n plenty of loyalty/m'ship cards.. mesra, jusco, vacation, bookstore, clubs.. occasionally used..

dunno y, though the wallet may get too thick.. this cards are like collectibles to me.. at least most of 'em are useful.. hehe..
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ May 8 2008, 05:15 PM)
If all card free,more card also can if I control my card use  biggrin.gif If guy got plat card I also more like go out with him tongue.gif

Also check all website plat card really get many extra offer. nod.gif

actually any low income people but can get plat card?possible?
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it's seems like the income group people is not matched with the Platinum.

since we are lower income, why need to get Platinum le?

lower income = lower expenses = classic / gold card

higher income = higher expenses = Platinum.

this only make sense ma. tongue.gif
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@Dyong,
I'll like to have one by meself too wink.gif

@siutimtim,
Can!! Get ur dad or bf to give u a supplementary *grins*

Seriously, I don't see what's the point of having too many cards; at the end of the day U won't use them all.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2008, 06:14 PM)
@Dyong,
I'll like to have one by meself too wink.gif

@siutimtim,
Can!! Get ur dad or bf to give u a supplementary *grins*

Seriously, I don't see what's the point of having too many cards; at the end of the day U won't use them all.
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@siutimtim ,i think low income is impossible to get a platinum card. Platinum card need at least RM60k -RM100k in annual income. Do you really need a platinum card?
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QUOTE(hye @ May 8 2008, 12:27 AM)
Only if you are a Platinum card holder. Gold card holder points last for only 1 year.

@tinkerbel .... there's nothin wrong with your points statement
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No worries. Somebody did tell me that DA points are valid for one year.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2008, 08:29 AM)
So what's the final conclusion here?!  Are the points valid 1 Year or are they valid 3 Years?!  If 3 Years my points from last year should be valid till 2009!  Ah well, I don't have sufficient points to redeem stuff anyways.
Previously it was valid for only a year for Classic and Gold cards but it has been extended to 3 years since earlier this year. Same apply to CIMB Bank free for life Mastercard/Petronas Mastercard.


QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 8 2008, 06:22 PM)
@siutimtim ,i think low income is impossible to get a platinum card. Platinum card need at least RM60k -RM100k in annual income. Do you really need a platinum card?
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A fat bank account will only entitle you to a free for life Platinum credit card. Some new graduates might not earn a lot in the first few years, yet they still manage to be a principal Platinum credit card holder. Thanks a lot to mom and dad biggrin.gif

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@siutimtim: my suggestion: change to sales related job and work VERY HARD to boost your income.

I have a younger friend who works as credit card agent and he earns 10k every month, and hold a plat card from another bank.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 8 2008, 06:38 PM)
Previously it was valid for only a year for Classic and Gold cards but it has been extended to 3 years since earlier this year. Same apply to CIMB Bank free for life Mastercard/Petronas Mastercard.
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There's no Classic for Direct Access. Are you referring to Gold and Platinum?
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vin_ann: since you mentioned in 1st post can discuss about Amex charge card - do mentioned in 1st post that AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.

Another benefit AMEX have over others is that they presently have 6 months 0% installment for any transaction. AMEX is truly 0% as they is no handling or surchage fees as compared to DA and UOB.
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There's no Classic for Direct Access. Are you referring to Gold and Platinum?
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ May 8 2008, 09:05 PM)
vin_ann: since you mentioned in 1st post can discuss about Amex charge card - do mentioned in 1st post that AMEX charged card gives  rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.

Another benefit AMEX have over others is that they presently have 6 months 0% installment for any transaction. AMEX is truly 0% as they is no handling or surchage fees as compared to DA and UOB.
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Both Amex Charge Card and Credit Card gives 2x points at ALL petrol stations.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2008, 08:29 AM)
So what's the final conclusion here?!  Are the points valid 1 Year or are they valid 3 Years?!  If 3 Years my points from last year should be valid till 2009!  Ah well, I don't have sufficient points to redeem stuff anyways.

@yewkhuay,
You actually do have a point.  I should check with developer if I could make payment through credit card - I need additional RM50k (over and above the RM30k booking fee) to make up the 1st 10% upon signing of S&P [it's not my fault lawyer's haven't called!].  With that, I should have sufficient points for that Samsonite bag  rclxms.gif

Oh No!  Samsonite bag's from Citibank and my credit with them's <RM15k!!! *ugh*
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@cute_boboi,
I don't think HSBC looks at it that way - at the v least, ur account is seen as 'active' ! smile.gif  I've no idea why they rejected ur application though *grins*

I'll definitely check if credit card facilities are available; they probably don't allow cause they've got to pay the 0.3% either to Visa or Mastercard and U know lah... developers a.k.a. kiamsiap!

@siutimtim,
I've <RM15k on my HSBC Gold Visa and the remaining credit from my HSBC Premier Mastercard.  Don't hold any HSBC Platinum though.

You can always put in an application to UOB / Alliance for it; no harm and it's free anyways smile.gif 

And what's so nice with the UOB / Alliance Black Platinum card?  It's just a card and it's just a colour right? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ May 8 2008, 09:05 PM)
vin_ann: since you mentioned in 1st post can discuss about Amex charge card - do mentioned in 1st post that AMEX charged card gives  rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.

Another benefit AMEX have over others is that they presently have 6 months 0% installment for any transaction. AMEX is truly 0% as they is no handling or surchage fees as compared to DA and UOB.
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noted and updated.

oh yeah, tht day in PC fair, the amex promoter got mention this to me. 0% installment for 6 months. but it's need to be RM1,000 minimum.

the RM1,000 can be anything. be it cash advance, retail transactions.

you know what he give the example, he mentioned that, you can treat your friends meal using the Amex and hit the RM1,000 and ask for the 0% installment... rclxub.gif
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@yewkhuay,
Use urs means U pay.. oKie then smile.gif

Am surprised but I haven't had a credit boost on my clear card for some time now.
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Seriously, I don't see what's the point of having too many cards; at the end of the day U won't use them all.
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Agreed. Use too many cards also means hassle of making several different payments every month. And you spread your points out too.

I have 3 diff cards but use 1 for 99% of payment (accumulates points faster). The rest is for backup (in case 1 card cannot read or in case really have big ticket item have to spread to 2 cards, etc).

Also unless the cards are free for life, have to think about multiple annual fees (of course can apply for waiver, but another hassle).

So, yes should have a few cards but not too many.

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Am surprised but I haven't had a credit boost on my clear card for some time now.
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Would the issuer auto boost your credit limit? They wouldn't be updated about your current financial status right? Unless you maintain your a/c there. I've had Maybank increase my credit limit without asking (I guess because I have an account there). Quite surprised.

None of my other cards has done that (and I also dun have account at those banks).
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actually any low income people but can get plat card?possible?
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@siutimtim: my suggestion: change to sales related job and work VERY HARD to boost your income.

I have a younger friend who works as credit card agent and he earns 10k every month, and hold a plat card from another bank.
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@jchong,
I did get an auto increase on my Citibank Clear Card from RM5k to RM6k. I wasn't officially informed and got that information from my monthly statements smile.gif

It's been awhile since I got an increase though.

@raymond5105,
Isn't it good to earn more, even though u'll be taxed more?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 9 2008, 09:28 AM)
@jchong,
I did get an auto increase on my Citibank Clear Card from RM5k to RM6k.  I wasn't officially informed and got that information from my monthly statements smile.gif

It's been awhile since I got an increase though.

@raymond5105,
Isn't it good to earn more, even though u'll be taxed more?
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Citibank recently increased my credit limit as well but it was a good 2 year lapse since the last upgrade. I knew about it when I logged into my Citibank Online system and a few days later the official letter came.

Paying more taxes is one of the drawbacks of earning more. And if you noticed, your maximum deduction (Tax calculation purposes) for EPF is only RM6K and then any extras is not counted - I think this is not fair as you are already paying a lot of taxes already at the end of the day. cry.gif
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Monthly 10k income is good but later you will be kena income tax >20%+..then you will see you $$ are fyling to our beloved government.
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10K income is paying average 13% of total income as tax.
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@hye,
I haf to agree RM6k is ridiculous. I don't even need to bother with the rest of the receipts as my annual contribution to EPF oredi exceeds the RM6k figure! Find other ways to reduce taxes but hey, when we don't earn enough we complain we don't have enough. When we earn enough we complain about taxes !

U people are sure hard to please!

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@hye,
I haf to agree RM6k is ridiculous.  I don't even need to bother with the rest of the receipts as my annual contribution to EPF oredi exceeds the RM6k figure!  Find other ways to reduce taxes but hey, when we don't earn enough we complain we don't have enough.  When we earn enough we complain about taxes ! 

U people are sure hard to please!
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@vin_ann,
The same rule when women goes shopping during sales? Save more by buying more?! *grins*

On a separate note, I checked my DA statement and the points indeed are valid till 2010 biggrin.gif
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10K income is paying average 13% of total income as tax.
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The catch is, they can use the details inside the acceptance form for advertising or publicity as i read in their terms & conditions...
Should i accept the offer or decline it?
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Just received my credit card from Public Bank & got offer mail for free ACE Insurance coverage for 12 months.
The catch is, they can use the details inside the acceptance form for advertising or publicity as i read in their terms & conditions...
Should i accept the offer or decline it?
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What's the sum insured?
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Which card has the best offer right now ?

Im gonna apply in August when im 21 ...

How much limit and offer do i get ? Workin for 3 years, got car loan, basic 2.2k and etc unsure.gif

Heard after get 1st card, its very easy to get 2nd and 3rd card onwards...
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QUOTE(Hybz @ May 10 2008, 11:01 PM)
Which card has the best offer right now ?

Im gonna apply in August when im 21 ...

How much limit and offer do i get ?  Workin for 3 years, got car loan, basic 2.2k and etc unsure.gif

Heard after get 1st card, its very easy to get 2nd and 3rd card onwards...
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I assume you are not a university graduate ? So Direct Access credit card is not for you. Try CIMB Bank Mastercard. It is FREE FOR LIFE with NO CONDITION. A very good card and they regularly have promotion. You should have no problem getting the CIMB Bank Classic Mastercard.

Depends on your payment history, other banks might reject your application if you have very bad payment history with your first credit card. But usually people will apply several credit cards from different banks at once.
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Hmm what is Direct Access credit card ?

What about the credit limit ? And how long term should i hold the card before they increase or upgrade to next level hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shift @ May 10 2008, 09:36 PM)
Just received my credit card from Public Bank & got offer mail for free ACE Insurance coverage for 12 months.
The catch is, they can use the details inside the acceptance form for advertising or publicity as i read in their terms & conditions...
Should i accept the offer or decline it?
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i guess it's better to buy insurance from the agent, as there is some1 to serve you. while buying from bank, when the time u face problems, you need to call bank and you dun know how to claims the insurance. and worse, you need to do it during office hours.

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Hmm what is Direct Access credit card ?

What about the credit limit ? And how long term should i hold the card before they increase or upgrade to next level hmm.gif
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doh.gif you not yet get ur credit card already asked so many questions. shdnt you learnt to walk before you can run?

having a credit card is sound cool, but actually when u really own 1, its different story, u will enjoy using CC and keep spending.


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QUOTE(Hybz @ May 10 2008, 11:35 PM)
Hmm what is Direct Access credit card ?

I believe Direct Access credit card was a product of Southern Bank and it is reserved only for those with a degree or higher. Now that Bumiputra Commerce Bank and Southern Bank have merged, CIMB Bank is the bank that issuing Direct Access credit card.


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What about the credit limit ? And how long term should i hold the card before they increase or upgrade to next level hmm.gif
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Credit limit vary from cards to cards. It really depends on the bank too. Usually i hear the classic credit card holder credit limit is something like RM4k only.


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doh.gif  you not yet get ur credit card already asked so many questions. shdnt you learnt to walk before you can run?

May be he just wants to know what his options are and want to know more about credit card before he actually apply for one. In case you didn't notice, many other people who do not have any credit card came to this board and asked lots of question about it.


QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 10 2008, 11:43 PM)
having a credit card is sound cool, but actually when u really own 1, its different story,  u will  enjoy using CC and keep spending.
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It's up to the individual. It the best if everyone treats their credit cards as charge cards.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 10 2008, 11:45 PM)
I believe Direct Access credit card was a product of Southern Bank and it is reserved only for those with a degree or higher. Now that Bumiputra Commerce Bank and Southern Bank have merged, CIMB Bank is the bank that issuing Direct Access credit card.
Credit limit vary from cards to cards. It really depends on the bank too. Usually i hear the classic credit card holder credit limit is something like RM4k only.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Direct Access eligibility starts from income of RM36K per annum (They have no classic cards). His best bet would be CIMB Petronas cards I think.

The first page is a good starting point if one were to learn about credit card and wanting to get one for the very first time. But one need to put in effort as well to read the threads, if everyone comes in and take the easy way and just ask "What's the best credit card? Best in credit limit, rewards, etc ..." - then it defeats the purpose why this forum exists. I'm just being honest about this point, no offense to anyone.

The credit limit can go to as low as RM3K from what I heard. Seriously, any seasoned credit card user would say that using a credit card is all about the ability to control your own spending and avoid compulsion. If getting a very high credit limit is all one's target, I fear disaster could happen if one does not understand the responsibilities of owning a credit card.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 10 2008, 11:45 PM)
I believe Direct Access credit card was a product of Southern Bank and it is reserved only for those with a degree or higher. Now that Bumiputra Commerce Bank and Southern Bank have merged, CIMB Bank is the bank that issuing Direct Access credit card.
Credit limit vary from cards to cards. It really depends on the bank too. Usually i hear the classic credit card holder credit limit is something like RM4k only.


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May be he just wants to know what his options are and want to know more about credit card before he actually apply for one. In case you didn't notice, many other people who do not have any credit card came to this board and asked lots of question about it.
It's up to the individual. It the best if everyone treats their credit cards as charge cards.
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ya. 4k limits is common for fresh grad.
anyways, citibank is just gives 3k for fresh grad.

anyways, not many people treat their credit card as charge cards.
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I'm still waiting for my Visa Petronas Card...really angry since i've already have a classic card...i just need it to be upgraded...i sent my application 2/04/08..more than a month already..last 2 week i called and they asked me to call back last friday..the guy said that he will make a report and escalate this matter..but last friday i called same thing happens...they asked me to call back another 2 week and they will escalate this matter.. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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Question on credit cards. Why are some purchases to be paid with installments for buying stuff sound so unchained? like 0% interest for buying a laptop/mobile phone. What's the catch and the maths involved? I need someone to fill me in before i make a first swipe of death.
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QUOTE(jep @ May 10 2008, 11:53 PM)
I'm still waiting for my Visa Petronas Card...really angry since i've already have a classic card...i just need it to be upgraded...i sent my application 2/04/08..more than a month already..last 2 week i called and they asked me to call back last friday..the guy said that he will make a report and escalate this matter..but last friday i called same thing happens...they asked me to call back another 2 week and they will escalate this matter.. shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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MBB Petronas card is one of the hottest credit card in town and this led to long queues. Actually there's no such thing as card upgrading - it's as good as you applying for an additional card and then you still need to cancel off the old card.

BTW ... you didn't say where and how did you apply for the card. I sent my application to the bank directly (I went to the bank) and it still took me a good 1 month plus (about so) before my card arrives.


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Question on credit cards. Why are some purchases to be paid with installments for buying stuff sound so unchained? like 0% interest for buying a laptop/mobile phone. What's the catch and the maths involved? I need someone to fill me in before i make a first swipe of death.
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My friend ... I think you need to add in clarity to your questions further. I read your question a few times and although I think I know what you mean ... I'm worried I may get the translation wrong.

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QUOTE(hye @ May 11 2008, 12:03 AM)
MBB Petronas card is one of the hottest credit card in town and this led to long queues. Actually there's no such thing as card upgrading - it's as good as you applying for an additional card and then you still need to cancel off the old card.

BTW ... you didn't say where and how did you apply for the card. I sent my application to the bank directly (I went to the bank) and it still took me a good 1 month plus (about so) before my card arrives.
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DA 2k/month can get already.Last time is 3k/month but need degree.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 11 2008, 12:03 AM)
MBB Petronas card is one of the hottest credit card in town and this led to long queues. Actually there's no such thing as card upgrading - it's as good as you applying for an additional card and then you still need to cancel off the old card.

BTW ... you didn't say where and how did you apply for the card. I sent my application to the bank directly (I went to the bank) and it still took me a good 1 month plus (about so) before my card arrives.


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My friend ... I think you need to add in clarity to your questions further. I read your question a few times and although I think I know what you mean ... I'm worried I may get the translation wrong.
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yup...i also send directly to the bank..they took about 1 week to arrive at CC centre...just have to wait then..
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 10 2008, 11:43 PM)
i guess it's better to buy insurance from the agent, as there is some1 to serve you. while buying from bank, when the time u face problems, you need to call bank and you dun know how to claims the insurance. and worse, you need to do it during office hours.
I already have prudential takaful insurance..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
Just this ACE insurance is free for 12 months (100K coverage). So i still consider to accept or not..... wub.gif

Edit : Looks like i off topic a bit.... Sori

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QUOTE(LunatikBunnie @ May 11 2008, 12:00 AM)
Question on credit cards. Why are some purchases to be paid with installments for buying stuff sound so unchained? like 0% interest for buying a laptop/mobile phone. What's the catch and the maths involved? I need someone to fill me in before i make a first swipe of death.
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no catch just that if you keep paying installment for stuff do remember that you are basically using leveraging on ur future for now. if some unforseen circumstances comes out of the sudden then you might be in big trouble
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no catch just that if you keep paying installment for stuff do remember that you are basically using leveraging on ur future for now. if some unforseen circumstances comes out of the sudden then you might be in big trouble
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At least now i know what goes on : x. I think im gonna get all my card applications rejected. I just need to make a phone call to see if my hunches are true.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 10 2008, 11:52 PM)
ya. 4k limits is common for fresh grad.
anyways, citibank is just gives 3k for fresh grad.

anyways, not many people treat their credit card as charge cards.
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i just got 1.5k on my citibank card tongue.gif
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I thought Citibank gives out 2.5x ur basic salary?
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I thought Citibank gives out 2.5x ur basic salary?
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I already have prudential takaful insurance.....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif 
Just this ACE insurance is free for 12 months (100K coverage). So i still consider to accept or not..... wub.gif

Edit :  Looks like i off topic a bit.... Sori
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QUOTE(hye @ May 10 2008, 11:52 PM)
His best bet would be CIMB Petronas cards I think.
Or just the regular CIMB Bank Mastercard.

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My first ever Credit Card was issued by Citibank and I do remember having to decide on the credit limit amount - i remembered requesting for a lower credit limit than the 2.5x. From that on, no other banks ever asked me about credit limit and it seems as if I've always gotten at least 2x of what I have on my Citibank Mastercard.
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@avenger,
My first ever Credit Card was issued by Citibank and I do remember having to decide on the credit limit amount - i remembered requesting for a lower credit limit than the 2.5x.  From that on, no other banks ever asked me about credit limit and it seems as if I've always gotten at least 2x of what I have on my Citibank Mastercard.
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im same case with u.

but my citibank gives me about 2x of credit limites.

while my 1st HSBC card gives me 2.5x, when im fresh grad getting 1.5k.
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@vin_ann,
I suppose it's a usual thing to give 2x credit limit on the 2nd card then?! *Shrugs* I'm not getting enough credit limit on my Citibank Clear Card anymore (although it was increased from RM5k to RM6k) and previous requests for an increase in credit limit were rejected!

Anyhow, of all my credit cards, Citibank gives me the lowest credit limits.
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@Tinkerbel,

yes. Citibank gives me the lowest credit limits. last time, if not the Myvi Promotions, i wont apply for the Citibank CC.

now just use for the utilities payment online only. never let the my Citibank CC see the lights. tongue.gif

while for HSBC, after 1 year using, it's auto increase the credit limits by RM500 sweat.gif


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Anyhow, of all my credit cards, Citibank gives me the lowest credit limits.
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It's the same thing for me as well. To be fair, they just recently upgraded my credit limit but nevertheless it's still lower than most of my cards.

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@vin_ann,
To be fair, I was earning RM1.8k p/month when I applied for the Citibank CC. I'm expecting a boost in credit limit with my new Plat card but I haven't got it and it's been almost 3 weeks now!

Also, I've given up hope on getting additional credit limit; I applied for some other credit cards instead but from what I understand, banks look at total risk so I don't blame them.

@hye,
After my 1st year with Citibank, they issued with me an additional Visa card - that gave me additional RM5k credit. I believe they also incresed my credit limit on my MasterCard to RM7.5k
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Please remember when u use cimb petronas card, u dont get cc points for retail transactions because of the 0.5% cash rebate.

i think cimb da is prolly the best of both worlds, 2% petrol rebate for any petrol station + respective mesra/bonuslink/smile points and points for retail transactions.


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i think cimb da is probably the best of both worlds, 2% petrol rebate for any petrol station + respective mesra/bonuslink/smile points and points for retail transactions.
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I kindof agree with ya. Makes the CIMB Petronas card looks impractical in some way because you are only limited to Petronas service stations + you can't earn additional points from your purchase. CIMB DA cards allows you to benefit from all petrol stations.

On one hand, it's kindof weird for CIMB to allow its own product (CIMB DA Mastercard) to kill another product (CIMB Petronas card). The way I'm reading it is, it's probably a strategy to counter Maybank Petronas cards which is one of the hottest credit card at the moment. icon_idea.gif

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Personally, I think that CIMB Petronas Mastercard has its own advantage especially for those who doesn't like the points collection gathering. Instead of cumulating points, you get cash rebate directly to your credit card. I think it's great especially those who like to use a particularly card for a short duration; perhaps 1 to 2 years or etc.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 11 2008, 05:57 PM)
I kindof agree with ya. Makes the CIMB Petronas card looks impractical in some way because you are only limited to Petronas service stations + you can't earn additional points from your purchase. CIMB DA cards allows you to benefit from all petrol stations.

On one hand, it's kindof weird for CIMB to allow its own product (CIMB DA Mastercard) to kill another product (CIMB Petronas card). The way I'm reading it is, it's probably a strategy to counter Maybank Petronas cards which is one of the hottest credit card at the moment.  icon_idea.gif
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OMG.. im totally forget about CIMB DA card rabates on all the petrol station.
guess im have not left KL at the movement, so does not need DA...

anyways, you have remind me of this features. thanks
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Actually I prefer cash rebates as the savings/rewards are more of less instant. Points system are only good if they don't expire or you have very high usage. The really good rewards all require high points and points are always at the risk of expiring. One thing i noticed that some of the banks that offer points that do not expire tend to have higher point requirements for their redemptions.

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Yeah cause the cost factor's been factored in. You're right - cash rebates are easier to earn since the $ is given back to u regardless of whether u 'claim' it or not smile.gif If ur entitled 5 cents, U still get your 5 cents back! smile.gif
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I wonder why I do not see DA advertising their 2% petrol rebates?
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Actually I prefer cash rebates as the savings/rewards are more of less instant. Points system are only good if they don't expire or you have very high usage. The really good rewards all require high points and points are always at the risk of expiring. One thing i noticed that some of the banks that offer points that do not expire tend to have higher point requirements for their redemptions.
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yeah. previously i redempted my UOB cash rebate at the Carrefour for about RM20...

now accumulated got about RM20 plus also... this time, going to accumulate higher...
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QUOTE(zenquix @ May 11 2008, 11:15 PM)
Actually I prefer cash rebates as the savings/rewards are more of less instant. Points system are only good if they don't expire or you have very high usage. The really good rewards all require high points and points are always at the risk of expiring. One thing i noticed that some of the banks that offer points that do not expire tend to have higher point requirements for their redemptions.
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I believe one good example will be Maybank TreatPoint system.

QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 11 2008, 11:24 PM)
I wonder why I do not see DA advertising their 2% petrol rebates?
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I don't think DA goes for commercial advertising.
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But a lot of us here agreed that Maybank's TreatPoint's one of the better ones in town?
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@vin_ann,
To be fair, I was earning RM1.8k p/month when I applied for the Citibank CC.  I'm expecting a boost in credit limit with my new Plat card but I haven't got it and it's been almost 3 weeks now!

Also, I've given up hope on getting additional credit limit; I applied for some other credit cards instead but from what I understand, banks look at total risk so I don't blame them.

@hye,
After my 1st year with Citibank, they issued with me an additional Visa card - that gave me additional RM5k credit.  I believe they also incresed my credit limit on my MasterCard to RM7.5k
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RM1.8k can get platinum card already?Which back is it?You mean ONE plat is it hmm.gif
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RM1.8k can get platinum card already?Which back is it?You mean ONE plat is it hmm.gif
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I think what she meant was she was earning that much when she first had her Citibank card. (I don't think it's a Platinum card) After many years of working, she's now applying for a Citibank Platinum card. (UOB One card did not exist a few years ago.)
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@siutimtim,
No U got it wrong - refer to hye's explanation; he's right smile.gif And it was the Citibank Clear Card that I applied for years ago!

And I didn't really apply for the Citibank Platinum card, it was offered to me and I thought Y not since I could combine my current points with it smile.gif
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@siutimtim,
No U got it wrong - refer to hye's explanation; he's right smile.gif  And it was the Citibank Clear Card that I applied for years ago!

And I didn't really apply for the Citibank Platinum card, it was offered to me and I thought Y not since I could combine my current points with it smile.gif
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Oh.So ccitibank offer u plat card?They will upgrade from classic to gold then to plat? but increase credit or not?
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Yes Citibank offered me their Platinum card without me asking for it and it's not an upgrade from my current Citibank Credit card. It's an additional card - I do not know if there'll be an increased in credit limit but there should be as Citibank doesn't offer me much credit at the moment; just slightly about RM13k for 2 cards combined.

Haven't received the Platinum card so don't know what limit they're gonna set. RM10k is sufficient lah - don't want to be carrying too much risk out tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 11 2008, 12:03 AM)
MBB Petronas card is one of the hottest credit card in town and this led to long queues. Actually there's no such thing as card upgrading - it's as good as you applying for an additional card and then you still need to cancel off the old card.

BTW ... you didn't say where and how did you apply for the card. I sent my application to the bank directly (I went to the bank) and it still took me a good 1 month plus (about so) before my card arrives.
You are very lucky. I apply from middle of March and just today receive information that my card would be arrive in several days... two months brows.gif
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@siutimtim,
Yes Citibank offered me their Platinum card without me asking for it and it's not an upgrade from my current Citibank Credit card.  It's an additional card - I do not know if there'll be an increased in credit limit but there should be as Citibank doesn't offer me much credit at the moment; just slightly about RM13k for 2 cards combined.

Haven't received the Platinum card so don't know what limit they're gonna set.  RM10k is sufficient lah - don't want to be carrying too much risk out tongue.gif
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They send letter to tell you they send you a plat card?Do you need pay annual fee?

Normal plat card got how much credit minimum? 10K?
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i am looking to get a second card, a master classic category. which bank offers high credit? good privileges? Cool looking? Balance?
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@siutimtim,
I was at the bank getting some transactions done when they asked if I wanted a Platinum Card. No annual fees.

And I'm not sure what the usual credit limit is but I thought that's on individual basis.

@jon720,
Credit limit's really entirely dependent on your financial ability and credit status. If u oredi have a 1st card, I wouldn't say it's difficult getting a second card but Y wouldn't U consider a 2nd card from the same bank? That way, U don't have to dilute your points smile.gif
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@siutimtim,
I was at the bank getting some transactions done when they asked if I wanted a Platinum Card.  No annual fees.

And I'm not sure what the usual credit limit is but I thought that's on individual basis.

@jon720,
Credit limit's really entirely dependent on your financial ability and credit status.  If u oredi have a 1st card, I wouldn't say it's difficult getting a second card but Y wouldn't U consider a 2nd card from the same bank?  That way, U don't have to dilute your points smile.gif
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So have to be citibank customer only they offer free upgrade card?If income not very high and no much money in account they dont give one is it? hmm.gif

which bank got best plat card?UOB card got many promotion.

I call UOB ask ONE plat card can get normal plat card offer in park royal they say can.ONE plat card not bad.Can get same offer as normal plat card rclxms.gif
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that can be an option. but i wouldn't mind applying for a card with good privileges or high cash back rate, etc. just thought of trying something new. i spent quite alot with my first card (about 10k/m) but all i get is reward points. am looking for something more practical...

i do alot of online shopping and oversea spending. any recommendation?
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QUOTE(jon720 @ May 12 2008, 05:48 PM)
that can be an option. but i wouldn't mind applying for a card with good privileges or high cash back rate, etc. just thought of trying something new. i spent quite alot with my first card (about 10k/m) but all i get is reward points. am looking for something more practical...

i do alot of online shopping and oversea spending. any recommendation?
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spend RM10k every month is very high!You must be rich man. tongue.gif
try Alliance bank plat card.Give highest cash rebate nod.gif
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@siutimtim,
I would assume one needs to be an existing customer before they're offered a credit card right?! tongue.gif I don't know what the criterias are for Citibank.

I think the benefits are all about the same; it really depends on what U want to use it for. HSBC has quite a number of F&B outlets tied to them. UOB too but the only one I recall would be the Oriental Group of Restaurants *grins*

@jon720,
Refer to Post #1 for options smile.gif
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They send letter to tell you they send you a plat card?Do you need pay annual fee?

Normal plat card got how much credit minimum? 10K?
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u seem quite desperate to get plat card. why ah? hmm.gif
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anyways UOB ONE card nowadays offering rm50 per entry for a BMW car lulz .. gonna swipe that card lulz
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try Alliance bank plat card.Give highest cash rebate  nod.gif
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What exactly is their cash rebate conditions? I looked at the website and it says "10% Cash Back on Interest Paid". That's a false gain because you kena the interest. I always settle my monthly bills in full so that kind of cash rebate no good for me.

Any other cards with cash rebate feature?
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anyways UOB ONE card nowadays offering rm50 per entry for a BMW car lulz .. gonna swipe that card lulz
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yesterday pumped RM50.01 to entitle 1 entry... tongue.gif
got cash rebate as well..
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What exactly is their cash rebate conditions? I looked at the website and it says "10% Cash Back on Interest Paid". That's a false gain because you kena the interest. I always settle my monthly bills in full so that kind of cash rebate no good for me.

Any other cards with cash rebate feature?
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There is also a credit card cash back offer.

http://www.alliancebank.com.my/ccard_cashback.html
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u seem quite desperate to get plat card. why ah? hmm.gif
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I also donno. tongue.gif But cannt get also because they all say need see my salary not match back card shakehead.gif cannt get plat card but want to know more about plat card so maybe next time people ask I also know flex.gif
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@siutimtim,
There's really not much difference between Platinum and Classic card; just different colour cards that's all. Am sure U'll be able to get a Platinum card later on in life biggrin.gif
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@siutimtim,
There's really not much difference between Platinum and Classic card; just different colour cards that's all.  Am sure U'll be able to get a Platinum card later on in life  biggrin.gif
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Ya.If you dont see the shining shining platinum word,the card like normal classic card only.Same color biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 13 2008, 09:57 AM)
@siutimtim,
There's really not much difference between Platinum and Classic card; just different colour cards that's all.  Am sure U'll be able to get a Platinum card later on in life  biggrin.gif
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Ya.If you dont see the shining shining platinum word,the card like normal classic card only.Same color  biggrin.gif
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Some banks have very distinctive design for their Platinum credit cards such as HSBC Platinum Visa. Actually, the design of Citibank and Standard Chartered Platinum Visa and Mastercard aren't bad either.

By the way, you guys might want to try applying for Standard Chartered Platinum Mastercard, requirement is much lower (i think RM60k/pa only).

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Some banks have very distinctive design for their Platinum credit cards such as HSBC Platinum Visa. Actually, the design of Citibank and Standard Chartered Platinum Visa and Mastercard aren't bad either.

By the way, you guys might want to try applying for Standard Chartered Platinum Mastercard, requirement is much lower (i think RM60k/pa only).
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RHB plat also rm60/k only.OCBC robison plat even more low. hmm.gif

I see citibank, standard charterd, uob, rhb and ambank all plat card like same design

hsbc plat card look like normal card only. no shining word. tongue.gif

i see the most special is alliance bank plat card. i see one guy use the card is whole card shining like diamond laugh.gif anyone got alliance card?is their gold card and classic also shining like that or plat only?
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@siutimtim,
UOB's Platinum Card's background colour's black whilst Citibank's one is well, Silver isn't it?
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@siutimtim,
UOB's Platinum Card's background colour's black whilst Citibank's one is well, Silver isn't it?
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@siutimtim,

user posted image

You sure are right about it. Anyhow, I don't go round checking out how credit cards look like. It's not for show tongue.gif
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u seem quite desperate to get plat card. why ah? hmm.gif
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You sure are right about it.  Anyhow, I don't go round checking out how credit cards look like.  It's not for show tongue.gif
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Can I apply for CIMB DA online? Can't find the link.
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Doesn't seem as if it's possible but here's where U can print the application form:

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Swipe it few times, it still get scratched and peeling.
End of day, it's still plastic not platinum... No difference.
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ May 13 2008, 01:15 PM)
RHB plat also rm60/k only.OCBC robison plat even more low. hmm.gif

I see citibank, standard charterd, uob, rhb and ambank all plat card like same design

hsbc plat card look like normal card only. no shining word. tongue.gif

i see the most special is alliance bank plat card. i see one guy use the card is whole card shining like diamond  laugh.gif anyone got alliance card?is their gold card and classic also shining like that or plat only?
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PCBC robinson plat how much? 150k right?
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@Darkmage12,

According to its Application Form, U need RM48k p/annum and u'll qualify for this card.

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siutimtim,

After following this thread for some time, I think you can be a good credit card sales person. You seems very eager with the initiative to know about all the products and services, which is a good thing. You can explain and propose suitable cards to people, rather than those "general" CC sales person who know nuts if you ask them further.
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siutimtim,

After following this thread for some time, I think you can be a good credit card sales person. You seems very eager with the initiative to know about all the products and services, which is a good thing. You can explain and propose suitable cards to people, rather than those "general" CC sales person who know nuts if you ask them further.
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UOB platinum and UOB ONE which one got much benefits??!! brows.gif
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UOB One card, but I tried to cancel my UOB plat but the customer serv said cannot cancel bcoz both card are 'linked'.. And u need to use 6 time per year per card in order to get annual fees waive
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 13 2008, 03:46 PM)
@Darkmage12,

According to its Application Form, U need RM48k p/annum and u'll qualify for this card.

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i got my Great Eastern OCBC CC, so can not apply this... sad.gif

QUOTE(dopp @ May 13 2008, 07:02 PM)
UOB One card, but I tried to cancel my UOB plat but the customer serv said cannot cancel bcoz both card are 'linked'.. And u need to use 6 time per year per card in order to get annual fees waive
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is it? last time i got asked, whether i can cancel my UOB ugly Master card, the CS said can, just need to write in to cancel the card. tht's all.

i thinks all UOB CC use 6 times per year will get waiver.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 13 2008, 07:45 PM)
is it? last time i got asked, whether i can cancel my UOB ugly Master card, the CS said can, just need to write in to cancel the card. tht's all.

i thinks all UOB CC use 6 times per year will get waiver.
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last year when i asked UOB to waive my Visa Plat they say will forward my request to management, got pissed off as for years UOB waived my annual fees on the spot. So called thier HQ and somehow spoke to a supervisor and two hours lated they called me that my Visa annual fees is waived. However he advised me to get UOB Master Plat because the free annual fees waiver has a condition (which is a stupid policy i must say) - i.e. member must swipe minimum 6 times on each Visa and Master to enjoy automatic annual fee waiver. So in the end to make my life easier, asked them to sent me the MasterCard Plat which is damn ugly.


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I totally can't understand this - do U people apply for credit cards just cause of how the card design looks like? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 13 2008, 07:45 PM)
i got my Great Eastern OCBC CC, so can not apply this...  sad.gif
is it? last time i got asked, whether i can cancel my UOB ugly Master card, the CS said can, just need to write in to cancel the card. tht's all.

i thinks all UOB CC use 6 times per year will get waiver.
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because of this card i got that card doh.gif
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because of this card i got that card doh.gif
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huh? got GE CC card, what card else u got?

u mean visa and master ??
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UOB One card, but I tried to cancel my UOB plat but the customer serv said cannot cancel bcoz both card are 'linked'.. And u need to use 6 time per year per card in order to get annual fees waive
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So many people got UOB plat card.Is it very easy to apply?Come together UOB One plat?

Why they give me lady red rose design master card with UOB one plat not master plat like others sad.gif
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how much credit limit is u all punya platinum card like? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 13 2008, 09:00 PM)
huh? got GE CC card, what card else u got?

u mean visa and master ??
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because of the GE card i ended up receiving the robinson as well doh.gif
never touch both before...
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ May 13 2008, 08:37 PM)
... However he advised me to get UOB Master Plat because the free annual fees waiver has a condition  (which is a stupid policy i must say) - i.e. member must swipe minimum 6 times on each Visa and Master to enjoy automatic annual fee waiver. So in the end to make my life easier, asked them to sent me the MasterCard Plat which is damn ugly.
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I do agree that the dual card policy is kind ridiculous since the consumer should be given a choice on which card they want to use. The Mastercard Plat design is seriously "undesirable" - looks like a normal silver card with the exception of the large "P" smacked on the card. If you look around - most banks in Malaysia use the same design for their Platinum card (with slight variation) and I felt that this slightly dilutes the exclusivity of the card coz all the cards looks almost the same.

A veteran credit card user would probably prefer to use 2 banks to backup each other during travels.
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 14 2008, 01:15 AM)
because of the GE card i ended up receiving the robinson as well doh.gif
never touch both before...
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i thinks mayb your income is qualify to get a robinson card, tht's why u got it.

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@hye,
I doubt there are many 'veterans' here; most seem to care about design of the card!
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@Tinkerbel,

most of people is seduced by the design. and some of us is still "young bird".

for me, im just stick to my UOB One card.
last night, one of my friend suddenly msn me, and asking me to apply UOB card from her. she keep telling this and that, too bad i got the card already.

then she promote insurance, which is called "bijak Malaysia" only selling by Bank. ops... wrong topic... i better end here.
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@vin_ann,
Credit cards are meant to be used for emergency purposes or for the sake of convenience. It's kept in the wallet and not tied around the neck hence I don't see Y we should be so bothered about the design of the card smile.gif

Speaking of good designs, Citibank's CitiGold Cheque designs are quite nice *grins*
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Speaking of design..
There used to be CC with Manchester United display.. i juz dont remember which bank..

One thing i dun get.. Shouldnt plat cards have very high credit limit? I thought it would be at least 10k for a new user.. which bank and how much the min credit limit would a bank offer for this kinda card?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 14 2008, 03:35 PM)
@vin_ann,
Credit cards are meant to be used for emergency purposes or for the sake of convenience.  It's kept in the wallet and not tied around the neck hence I don't see Y we should be so bothered about the design of the card smile.gif

Speaking of good designs, Citibank's CitiGold Cheque designs are quite nice *grins*
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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 14 2008, 04:38 PM)
One thing i dun get.. Shouldnt plat cards have very high credit limit? I thought it would be at least 10k for a new user.. which bank and how much the min credit limit would a bank offer for this kinda card?
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The credit limit mainly depends on your income, not the type of card. Even my normal classic card has 15k limit.

That said, to get plat card the min income requirement is quite high so you would expect the credit limit to be high also.
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QUOTE(jchong @ May 14 2008, 04:51 PM)
The credit limit mainly depends on your income, not the type of card. Even my normal classic card has 15k limit.

That said, to get plat card the min income requirement is quite high so you would expect the credit limit to be high also.
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15k for classic? is that the amt after being upgraded for several years of use or for newly applied card?? mine was juz 5.5k for classic.. Beside the salary, I guess diff bank offers diff credit limit..

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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 14 2008, 04:38 PM)
Speaking of design..
There used to be CC with Manchester United display.. i juz dont remember which bank..
Believe it was Public Bank.. could be wrong though.
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Believe it was Public Bank.. could be wrong though.
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You are right. it's Public Bank.

Public Bank HQ is just beside my office... most of the time go Public bank have lunch... always see the banner.
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@jchong,
RM15k limit on ur Classic Card? And Y didn't the bank just offer u Gold instead?

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I would assume Platinum card would offer higher credit limit but with them so easily obtainable these days, I wouldn't be surprised if it starts with RM3k tongue.gif
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@vin_ann,
Credit cards are meant to be used for emergency purposes or for the sake of convenience.  It's kept in the wallet and not tied around the neck hence I don't see Y we should be so bothered about the design of the card smile.gif

Speaking of good designs, Citibank's CitiGold Cheque designs are quite nice *grins*
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My classic was RM8K. I called them up while I was overseas to upgrade it, asked them what is the maximum credit limit for a classic card, they say no limit. I asked for RM15K and finally they approve for RM13K.

I have only one card because I'm lazy to apply for another one and pay 2 cards but now thinking about a second card as a backup.
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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 14 2008, 04:38 PM)
Speaking of design..
There used to be CC with Manchester United display.. i juz dont remember which bank..

This card is still available. It's from Public Bank.


QUOTE(fikrie @ May 14 2008, 04:38 PM)
One thing i dun get.. Shouldnt plat cards have very high credit limit? I thought it would be at least 10k for a new user.. which bank and how much the min credit limit would a bank offer for this kinda card?
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I personally think all bank should set a minimum credit limit of RM20k for all Platinum credit card holder. If one does not qualify for the RM20k credit limit, don't offer him/her the Platinum credit card then. Give him/her a Gold credit card instead.


QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 14 2008, 03:35 PM)
Speaking of good designs, Citibank's CitiGold Cheque designs are quite nice *grins*
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I really like the design of HSBC Platinum VISA. The design of HSBC World Mastercard (advertised as Premier Mastercard by HSBC) however, was a BIG let down.


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@MilesAndMore,
I'm quite sure there's a min limit on Plat cards. On mine, it does exceed RM20k per Platinum card blush.gif
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RM15k limit on ur Classic Card?  And Y didn't the bank just offer u Gold instead?
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Take note I got the card many years back...

The bank did offer a gold card and at that time fee waivers not so common as nowadays. I didn't see the need to pay higher annual fees for gold card so the classic card was chosen instead. Of course nowadays so easy to get fee waiver... so if can qualify for gold card take it lah.
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15k for classic? is that the amt after being upgraded for several years of use or for newly applied card?? mine was juz 5.5k for classic.. Beside the salary, I guess diff bank offers diff credit limit..
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Newly applied.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 14 2008, 06:39 PM)
The design of HSBC World Mastercard (advertised as Premier Mastercard by HSBC) however, was a BIG let down.
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Well ... the Premier Mastercard does carry some weight and recognition on its own. To those who recognizes the card, it's something that they would dream to have. If I were to own it, I don't mind the low profile that the card portrays (although I don't mind a better looking card like the VISA Infinity) - so long I have one.


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@MilesAndMore,
I'm quite sure there's a min limit on Plat cards.  On mine, it does exceed RM20k per Platinum card  blush.gif
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You're right. Apparently, the HSBC Premier Card supercedes the HSBC Platinum Card status. Anyhow, a card's just a card smile.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 14 2008, 08:41 PM)
Well ... the Premier Mastercard does carry some weight and recognition on its own. To those who recognizes the card, it's something that they would dream to have. If I were to own it, I don't mind the low profile that the card portrays (although I don't mind a better looking card like the VISA Infinity) - so long I have one.
Well, after all HSBC is by far the ONLY bank in Malaysia to offer World Mastercard.


QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 14 2008, 08:56 PM)
@hye,
You're right.  Apparently, the HSBC Premier Card supercedes the HSBC Platinum Card status.  Anyhow, a card's just a card smile.gif
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LOL ! Anyway, nothing beats AMEX Platinum Charge Card biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 14 2008, 09:56 AM)
i thinks mayb your income is qualify to get a robinson card, tht's why u got it.
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May i know how you got your GE card? I never furnish them with any proof of income iirc....and yet they send in those 2 cards doh.gif
and the robinson card seems tempting lolz

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Different people different taste.For me,I want good offer card and show off. tongue.gif  But my card is classic card only so no need to show.
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lol if ur classic card have 6 figure credit limit even a platinum card holder might not show u their card smile.gif
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ May 14 2008, 06:24 PM)
My classic was RM8K. I called them up while I was overseas to upgrade it, asked them what is the maximum credit limit for a classic card, they say no limit. I asked for RM15K and finally they approve for RM13K.

I have only one card because I'm lazy to apply for another one and pay 2 cards but now thinking about a second card as a backup.
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which brand of card you apply??!! brows.gif
next gathering you can treat me loh... brows.gif


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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
May i know how you got your GE card? I never furnish them with any proof of income iirc....and yet they send in those 2 cards doh.gif
and the robinson card seems tempting lolz
lol if ur classic card have 6 figure credit limit even a platinum card holder might not show u their card smile.gif
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which brand of card you apply??!!  brows.gif
next gathering you can treat me loh...  brows.gif
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I'm having HSBC Visa. Actually last time I've applied once for DA Platinum (IIRC, for its life time 0 annual fee), at least that's what the agent told me. When I get my card, it was a classic. Straight away throw into dustbin. doh.gif
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ May 15 2008, 12:26 AM)
I'm having HSBC Visa. Actually last time I've applied once for DA Platinum (IIRC, for its life time 0 annual fee), at least that's what the agent told me. When I get my card, it was a classic. Straight away throw into dustbin.  doh.gif
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Wait a minute, DA only have 2 type of cards which is Gold and Platinum. What do you mean when you got a Classic card ?
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Er... And what's the difference between Mastercard and World Mastercard? I never really noticed till it was mentioned *shrugs*

Also, Amex is a charge card so it shouldn't be compared with a Credit Card *smiles*
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Er... And what's the difference between Mastercard and World Mastercard? I never really noticed till it was mentioned *shrugs*
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Emm ... can't find a definite difference between the both. I think what's makes it unique it's because it's coupled together with HSBC Premier service. Otherwise the only difference would be the perceived higher class status.

I also found out that there is such thing called the World Elite Mastercard which is supposedly one class above the World Mastercard.

The highest for VISA (at least in Malaysia) if I'm not mistaken would be VISA Infinite - currently offered by RHB Bank only. In the US, VISA Signature seems to be the highest card for a VISA - it's differentiated by a "VISA Signature" band across the front of the card in addition to the VISA logo.

One day if everyone holds a Platinum card, the next stage would be these cards which is (hopefully) the banks will defends it's exclusivity and not everyone will be able to get one.

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@hye,
Like I said, a card's just a card as far as I'm concerned that is smile.gif But thanks for the information
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@hye,
Like I said, a card's just a card as far as I'm concerned that is smile.gif  But thanks for the information
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Wait a minute, DA only have 2 type of cards which is Gold and Platinum. What do you mean when you got a Classic card ?
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I guess I would have googled it if U didn't [except I'm stuck in a meeting]. Next question, don't U need to work? tongue.gif

@bysquashy,
Applying for a Platinum doesn't necessarily mean U'll get it. If u don't, they'll just downgrade u to the next one *smiles*
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 15 2008, 09:54 AM)
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I guess I would have googled it if U didn't [except I'm stuck in a meeting].  Next question, don't U need to work? tongue.gif
hye just help you ma.If you so busy you won so free check this forum la.So funny. shakehead.gif
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@hye,
I guess I would have googled it if U didn't [except I'm stuck in a meeting].  Next question, don't U need to work? tongue.gif

@bysquashy,
Applying for a Platinum doesn't necessarily mean U'll get it.  If u don't, they'll just downgrade u to the next one *smiles*
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hye just help you ma.If you so busy you won so free check this forum la.So funny. shakehead.gif
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I did say I'm *stuck* at a meeting didn't I?! And with wi-fi being enabled, we should be able to get on from wherever smile.gif

@bysquashy,
You're so mean. I haven't cancelled my HSBC card cause I didn't want the salesperson to lose his commission

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Emm ... can't find a definite difference between the both. I think what's makes it unique it's because it's coupled together with HSBC Premier service. Otherwise the only difference would be the perceived higher class status.

I also found out that there is such thing called the World Elite Mastercard which is supposedly one class above the World Mastercard.

The highest for VISA (at least in Malaysia) if I'm not mistaken would be VISA Infinite - currently offered by RHB Bank only. In the US, VISA Signature seems to be the highest card for a VISA - it's differentiated by a "VISA Signature" band across the front of the card in addition to the VISA logo.

One day if everyone holds a Platinum card, the next stage would be these cards which is (hopefully) the banks will defends it's exclusivity and not everyone will be able to get one.
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@siutimtim,
I did say I'm *stuck* at a meeting didn't I?!  And with wi-fi being enabled, we should be able to get on from wherever smile.gif

@bysquashy,
You're so mean.  I haven't cancelled my HSBC card cause I didn't want the salesperson to lose his commission
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@bysquashy,
I don't get a lot of stuff I want so how does that go?
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 15 2008, 08:24 PM)
found out that UOB cash rebate me for BHP petrol 2% every transaction...better than maybank petronas..petrol going to increase either this month or next..  tongue.gif 

haha... btw, petrol going to increase this month o next month?
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its not rumors.. its a guess actually

this month rice up, next month petrol up as well laa tongue.gif

all the time..
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What you guys hear the rumours from?
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you also got saw b4 ma...

see the above's above post la.


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I don't get a lot of stuff I want so how does that go?
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As for you, since you have goals, you need action plan nod.gif
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Get it from another bank then. There are many other fishes in the sea biggrin.gif
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today.. i called maybank for my maybank cc application
unfortunately they rejected me.. only god knows why.. my salary is way above their requirement..

n also called citibank.. i follow the instruction n key in my ic no..
even worse, my record is not found..

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ May 16 2008, 09:22 PM)
today.. i called maybank for my maybank cc application
unfortunately they rejected me.. only god knows why.. my salary is way above their requirement..

n also called citibank.. i follow the instruction n key in my ic no..
even worse, my record is not found..

bad day sad.gif
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or mayb the agent is not yet submiting ur application to bank...
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i kena before. and i psst off, then apply through another fren who working inside citibank... and got my card within 3 weeks.
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May be when they try to verify you, they can't get you  ohmy.gif
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verified?? never received any call from maybank for verification..

but for citibank, i did

actually for citibank i applied it online n they called me for missing information like fixed phone no. bla bla bla

so i hav to say citibank did the verification on me..

but i doubt they reach my h.r manager..

she's my boss wife n always come in late everyday.. sometimes dont even come

will they reject my application just because they cant reach my h.r boss

can normal admin worker veify that im working there..??
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Actually, are we able to check for the numbers of the credit card owned?
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Actually, are we able to check for the numbers of the credit card owned?
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Apparently yes, someone here indicated that you could possibly do that over in Bank Negara if I'm not mistaken.
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Apparently yes, someone here indicated that you could possibly do that over in Bank Negara if I'm not mistaken.
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Just walk in bank negara? Can it be done through bank negara branches in other state ?
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Just walk in bank negara? Can it be done through bank negara branches in other state ?
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Not so sure about this. The other member mentioned about his experience over in Bank Negara in KL but did not mention the possibility of doing so in other states?

If you don't mind me asking, why are doing so ? Identity theft problem ?


Taking this opportunity to share my latest experience. I wanted to cancel my RHBBank credit card and called up the CS for a fax number to send the letter to. (Did this last Thursday) Checked with the CS on Monday and they said cancellation processing takes about 3-4 working days and they need to forward the fax to the card center. (It's only 2 working days now) However, they could not confirm the fax is received or not as it could have been sent directly to the card center.

Called again on Friday (It's already 8 working days), card is still active and cancellation not done yet. They said maybe Card Processing is not doing it yet. (Emmm ..... remember the 3-4 working days thing, I'm not impressed) Sigh .... service these days sucks.

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Not so sure about this. The other member mentioned about his experience over in Bank Negara in KL but did not mention the possibility of doing so in other states?

If you don't mind me asking, why are doing so ? Identity theft problem ?
Taking this opportunity to share my latest experience. I wanted to cancel my RHBBank credit card and called up the CS for a fax number to send the letter to. (Did this last Thursday) Checked with the CS on Monday and they said cancellation processing takes about 3-4 working days and they need to forward the fax to the card center. (It's only 2 working days now) However, they could not confirm the fax is received or not as it could have been sent directly to the card center.

Called again on Friday (It's already 8 working days), card is still active and cancellation not done yet. They said maybe Card Processing is not doing it yet. (Emmm ..... remember the 3-4 working days thing, I'm not impressed) Sigh .... service these days sucks.
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Why you cancel the card?Not good?I am thinking apply RHB
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Why you cancel the card?Not good?I am thinking apply RHB
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I'm very particular about the CS. Need a CS that is active in giving solutions not giving more problems. The last thing I need is an unhelpful CS when you have problems using your card overseas.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 17 2008, 09:45 AM)
@siutimtim
I'm very particular about the CS. Need a CS that is active in giving solutions not giving more problems. The last thing I need is an unhelpful CS when you have problems using your card overseas.
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you're right.
so at the movement, which bank offer the best CS for your credit card?

btw, just now i saw the Direct Access Advertisement about the 2% rebates.
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and the website is still the Direct Access main Page
when im trying to login my DA CC online account, it's direct me to CIMB Clicks. seem, they maintain different pages for credit card and combine the online banking transaction.
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Direct Access website is under Direct Banking section.

Internet Banking for Direct Access is still CIMBClicks.

Nothing is a brand new thing. Just that their communication is relatively confusing.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 17 2008, 10:20 AM)
Direct Access website is under Direct Banking section.

Internet Banking for Direct Access is still CIMBClicks.

Nothing is a brand new thing. Just that their communication is relatively confusing.
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yes. i thinks for newbie, they wont be confusing. and thinks what happening, im logging to DA, how come CIMB appear on it..
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you're right.
so at the movement, which bank offer the best CS for your credit card?
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It'll be HSBC. Always taking ownership of my problems and I feel very assured that everything's fine. CS is courteous and friendly and doesn't seem like talking based on a predefined script. (Or worst like they just woke up or having a realy bad and long day/can't wait till their shift is over)

The only slight problem I had with them was when they were sending my card, had a few logistics confusion till the point I felt that they are not really talking to each other. (CS, Card Approval/Processing, Courier) And my free gift is always not given to me. (Well, I don't really care about the free bags - it doesn't bothers me much but it's a promise that needs to be fulfilled)

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 17 2008, 10:18 AM)
you're right.
so at the movement, which bank offer the best CS for your credit card?

btw, just now i saw the Direct Access Advertisement about the 2% rebates.
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and the website is still the  Direct Access main Page
when im trying to login my DA CC online account, it's direct me to CIMB Clicks. seem, they maintain different pages for credit card and combine the online banking transaction.
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Direct access good.....but then not many realise how good it is.... tongue.gif
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It'll be HSBC. Always taking ownership of my problems and I feel very assured that everything's fine. CS is courteous and friendly and doesn't seem like talking based on a predefined script. (Or worst like they just woke up or having a realy bad and long day/can't wait till their shift is over)

The only slight problem I had with them was when they were sending my card, had a few logistics confusion till the point I felt that they are not really talking to each other. (CS, Card Approval/Processing, Courier) And my free gift is always not given to me. (Well, I don't really care about the free bags - it doesn't bothers me much but it's a promise that needs to be fulfilled)
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I don't even get my free gift from HSBC even though I complained!
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 17 2008, 10:18 AM)
btw, just now i saw the Direct Access Advertisement about the 2% rebates.
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This 2% rebate just introduced?

Is it valid forever or just for a temporary period?
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This 2% rebate just introduced?

Is it valid forever or just for a temporary period?
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Introduced last month if I remembered correctly.

Will still on till further notice.
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just now at IKEA, im planning to buy stuffs from IKEA in future, so went to enquiry about the IKEA member card aka credit card by Allianze bank.

when im asked about the Customer Services, the sales person tell me frankly, tht you can dial lost card straight aways, then CS will be very fast. sweat.gif sweat.gif tht's the trick by the sales person.

then when im telling him tht im in the process of changing job, then he said, you have to need to be with the company for at least 3 months, then only can apply. but he advise me to come back to apply after 1 months in new company.


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normally how u guys waive your citibank platinum annual fee? i jst got offer of upgrade to citi plat however the annual fee is rm600, still deciding whether accept...
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waive platinum annual fees? i thinks only a few of us only got plat.
you can waits their answer.

but normally, you are an active user, prompt payment, when the annual fees is due, you can call in and ask for waiver. threathen them if they din waive ur annual fees, you will cancel the card.

normal rules which apply to classic and gold cards.
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why citibank keep offer upgrade for client?Like no standard. shakehead.gif
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why citibank keep offer upgrade for client?Like no standard. shakehead.gif
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bcoz bank will happy and you also will happy.

both party also happy. tongue.gif
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why citibank keep offer upgrade for client?Like no standard. shakehead.gif
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Maybe the cardholder qualify for upgrade?
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Maybe the cardholder qualify for upgrade?
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I don think so because I got many friends get citibank free upgrade card but income also not so high.Hong Leong also always give free upgrade.My uncle get free plat card from Hong Leong after take their home loan.
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sound like platinum credit card too common oredi nowadays.... i bttr dun accept the citibank offer of free platinum upgrade tongue.gif
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What is the different applying a credit card directly from bank or through agent (in supermarket, in college, etc)


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What is the different applying a credit card directly from bank or through agent (in supermarket, in college, etc)
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@ginvin,
The card was offered to u probably cause of ur long standing as a good customer? As to waiver of fees, well, I don't know - a couple of my friends who's using Citibank's Platinum gets their annual fees waived but that's upon request. I have yet to receive my Platinum card in the mail but mine's complementary from being a CitiGold member.

@siutimtim,
Er... U admitted to being 'desperate' for wanting a Platinum card so if ur being offered, Y don't U just take it? tongue.gif

@dav3,
By applying through a salesperson, Ur helping him meet with his monthly sales target as well as contributing to his salary versus applying direct through the bank, I think blush.gif
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no diff, i think
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Applying with non-bank staff such agent might have the possibility of information misuse.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 17 2008, 11:28 PM)
@ginvin,
The card was offered to u probably cause of ur long standing as a good customer?  As to waiver of fees, well, I don't know - a couple of my friends who's using Citibank's Platinum gets their annual fees waived but that's upon request.  I have yet to receive my Platinum card in the mail but mine's complementary from being a CitiGold member.

@siutimtim,
Er... U admitted to being 'desperate' for wanting a Platinum card so if ur being offered, Y don't U just take it? tongue.gif

@dav3,
By applying through a salesperson, Ur helping him meet with his monthly sales target as well as contributing to his salary versus applying direct through the bank, I think  blush.gif
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i think i haf requested too many times to increase my credit limit, tat's y they offered tis card with 50% credit increase.... tongue.gif but the only problem is the annual fee, which is alot higher compared to my current credit card. i will only accept the offer if they promise to waive the fee brows.gif
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Ya lo.If free take also no prob.

tinkerbel, If I can qualify get plat card I no so free use this forum I busy make money already.Now I only got my first card tongue.gif

In forum I say I got many plat card also nobody know real or not la.All also cakap and share idea only mah. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ May 18 2008, 12:02 AM)
Ya lo.If free take also no prob.

tinkerbel, If I can qualify get plat card I no so free use this forum I busy make money already.Now I only got my first card tongue.gif

In forum I say I got many plat card also nobody know real or not la.All also cakap and share idea only mah. tongue.gif
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Hmmm......... Plat card holder no time to surf ei?

When you reach that level then you'll understand the difference.
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@ginvin,
I gave up asking for increase in credit limit after 2 futile attempts. I don't know if they'll promise to waive ur annual fee now but do keep us all informed smile.gif

@siutimtim,
There are a couple of us here who holds Platinum cards and yet we still come online smile.gif

@bysquashy,
Yeah.. my boss surfs the net much more than I do except he reads a lot of blogs and news tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 17 2008, 09:09 AM)
Not so sure about this. The other member mentioned about his experience over in Bank Negara in KL but did not mention the possibility of doing so in other states?

If you don't mind me asking, why are doing so ? Identity theft problem ?
Taking this opportunity to share my latest experience. I wanted to cancel my RHBBank credit card and called up the CS for a fax number to send the letter to. (Did this last Thursday) Checked with the CS on Monday and they said cancellation processing takes about 3-4 working days and they need to forward the fax to the card center. (It's only 2 working days now) However, they could not confirm the fax is received or not as it could have been sent directly to the card center.

Called again on Friday (It's already 8 working days), card is still active and cancellation not done yet. They said maybe Card Processing is not doing it yet. (Emmm ..... remember the 3-4 working days thing, I'm not impressed) Sigh .... service these days sucks.
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Yup, coz applied through an agent for maybank, but i dont seem to be able to check for any application under my name when i called the cs.

So, i prefer to be safe than sorry

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Like tinkerbel says ... all the folks here are just ordinary guys. What makes a person is not by the type of credit card a person holds - it's the person's character that matters.

While it's not surprising to find some Plat card holders acts as if they are godsend and likewise. And there are folks who holds classic cards (no offense/or reference to anyone here OK?) who behaves like some rich tycoon but actual no money but full of debts. (or worse, cheats other people's money)

Read the many threads in LY itself and you see many such cases.

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 11 2008, 09:37 AM)
@Tinkerbel,

yes. Citibank gives me the lowest credit limits. last time, if not the Myvi Promotions, i wont apply for the Citibank CC.

now just use for the utilities payment online only. never let the my Citibank CC see the lights.  tongue.gif

while for HSBC, after 1 year using, it's auto increase the credit limits by RM500  sweat.gif
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so good ah... ur hsbc card, hopefully mine will be increased also... now at rm6k limit only....


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I don't even get my free gift from HSBC even though I complained!
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serious? how come u guys are having so hard time to get the free gift... my free gift just was just delivered to me together with the card, it's a clock watch... i nvr call to remind them to send the free gift at all, again they sent it automatically....

so far i feel that HSBC is not bad..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(ginvin @ May 17 2008, 04:53 PM)
normally how u guys waive your citibank platinum annual fee? i jst got offer of upgrade to citi plat however the annual fee is rm600, still deciding whether accept...
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All the Citibank Platinum credit card holders i know are also their Citigold customers. They do not have to pay the annual fee as it is complimentary.

If i'm not mistaken, one can only get Citibank Platinum credit card by invitation nowadays.

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@kindaichi,
If U truly need an increase of credit limit and have good payment record, perhaps U could make a request with ur respective bank - it doesn't mean ur attempt will be futile, like mine *grins*

I never received the free watch from HSBC either but it could probably be due to me not spending the minimum required amount to qualify for it smile.gif As a Premier customer, I did get my welcome gifts timely.

@MilesAndMore,
I wouldn't know if Citibank's Platinum's by invitation only but I guess we could always check their website if we wanted to *grins*
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QUOTE(kindaichi @ May 18 2008, 01:06 AM)
so good ah... ur hsbc card, hopefully mine will be increased also... now at rm6k limit only....


Added on May 18, 2008, 1:17 am

serious? how come u guys are having so hard time to get the free gift... my free gift just was just delivered to me together with the card, it's a clock watch... i nvr call to remind them to send the free gift at all, again they sent it automatically....

so far i feel that HSBC is not bad..... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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so easy to buy u over with some cheap watches? sweat.gif
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@kindaichi,
If U truly need an increase of credit limit and have good payment record, perhaps U could make a request with ur respective bank - it doesn't mean ur attempt will be futile, like mine *grins*
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You have any idea why they rejected?

I thought if you showed increase in income and had good payment history then no problem.
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Faster way to apply CIMB DA:

Step 1 : Print out and complete the application form.

Step 2 : Fax your application form to 2093 1329 / 2093 1494 / 2093 2446 / 2093 3157 / 2093 3403 along with a photocopy of the following
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(i) NRIC (both sides, enlarged), including supplementary applicant’s.
(ii) Degree certificate from a recognised university / professional body.
(iii) Latest salary slips / income tax receipt / EA form.

Step 3 : A Short Messaging System (SMS) will be sent to applicant within 1 hour of full documents received. Any documents received after office hours, on weekends or public holiday, the Bank will acknowledge receipt by 10am the following working day.

URL: http://www.directaccess.com.my/pdf/DA%20cr...%20apply_01.pdf
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Faster way to apply CIMB DA:

Step 1 : Print out and complete the application form.

Step 2 : Fax your application form to 2093 1329 / 2093 1494 / 2093 2446 / 2093 3157 / 2093 3403 along with a photocopy of the following
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CIMB PETRONAS card holder u think can apply this? Since both r fom CIMB now..
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so easy to buy u over with some cheap watches? sweat.gif
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it's not becos of the watch, it's becos of their efficiency... i dun need to call them to ask they just sent the gift to me... and i applied thru a agent one... the watch promo is after i applied thru the agent, and again i still get it... that's why i would say this is service....
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serious? how come u guys are having so hard time to get the free gift... my free gift just was just delivered to me together with the card, it's a clock watch... i nvr call to remind them to send the free gift at all, again they sent it automatically....

so far i feel that HSBC is not bad..... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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@jchong,
I did show increase in income and am also a customer with good payment record. The bank didn't reveal actual reason but when I pursued further in person, I was told it could perhaps be due to the other credit cards I have; assuming I maxed each card out, my current income wouldn't be suffice. I was considered high risk as I was oredi having too much credit. True or not, I don't know cause subsequent to that, I got an increase and upgrade from UOB Gold to UOB Platinum. I was also successful in applying for a HSBC Gold sometime early this year [I'd wanted some of their retail benefits *grins*].

I'm no longer interested with an increased credit limit with Citibank so if they can't give me one, screw it *oops*

@David83,
I'm surprised U had issues with HSBC's Customer Service - in fact, this is the first time I'm hearing about such inefficiencies. I personally feel the same as hye
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QUOTE(kindaichi @ May 18 2008, 11:01 AM)
it's not becos of the watch, it's becos of their efficiency... i dun need to call them to ask they just sent the gift to me... and i applied thru a agent one... the watch promo is after i applied thru the agent, and again i still get it... that's why i would say this is service....
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this is not service, this is just a gimmick to make u happy, if u do. service is how they attend to ur request n complaint , in which, u will know soon.

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@yewkhuay,
I wouldn't mind if HSBC gave me their GSC 2 for 1 card. It's inconvenient having to share that with my best friend *grins*
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@yewkhuay,
I wouldn't mind if HSBC gave me their GSC 2 for 1 card.  It's inconvenient having to share that with my best friend *grins*
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OCBC is giving buy 1 free 1 in cathay.btw, not in MSN?

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@yewkhuay,
Apparently sis applied for that Titanium card and got rejected. She recently struck a million dollars and was gonna put them all in the bank but decided against OCBC cause they'd rejected her application twice! whistling.gif

Also, I don't like watching movie at Cineleisure; I prefer GSC.
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@yewkhuay,
Apparently sis applied for that Titanium card and got rejected.  She recently struck a million dollars and was gonna put them all in the bank but decided against OCBC cause they'd rejected her application twicewhistling.gif

Also, I don't like watching movie at Cineleisure; I prefer GSC.
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GSC then, tonite?

1mil? sure boh? can i date her ? drool.gif
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@yewkhuay,
Am sending folks to the airport tonight so can't make it tonight either *sorrEee*. And mom's not going to allow u to start switching daughters! *tsk tsk* shakehead.gif
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GSC then, tonite?

1mil? sure boh? can i date her ? drool.gif
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 18 2008, 01:45 PM)
this is not service, this is just a gimmick to make u happy, if u do. service is how they attend to ur request n complaint , in which, u will now soon.
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i think u seriously dun know abt the definition of customer service... for ur knowledge...

Customer service (also known as Client Service) is the provision of service to customers before, during and after a purchase.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_service

so any action to make customer happy is service.... including rewarding customer, dun be so shortsighted......and be realistic too... the same company has so many customer service officer, they have a standard for their customer service, it does not mean every customer service officer can meet the standard, so whether u are served with satisfaction, it depends on a lot of reason, including ur luck of getting which customer service officer to attend to u...

obviously there are two sides for everything, there are a lot of ppl like citibank, hsbc or any other banks, but there are ppl like u hate them also... .so it's also up to individual's luck etc also...

there is nothing can be judged by black and white only... becos this world is grey...

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G...What's wrong with u all? Or shd I b asking was wrong with me? *grins*

@Dyong,
At the v least, there's a base to begin with tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kindaichi @ May 18 2008, 08:31 PM)
i think u seriously dun know abt the definition of customer service... for ur knowledge...

Customer service (also known as Client Service) is the provision of service to customers before, during and after a purchase.
[SIZE=14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_service

so any action to make customer happy is service.... including rewarding customer, dun be so shortsighted......and be realistic too... the same company has so many customer service officer, they have a standard for their customer service, it does not mean every customer service officer can meet the standard, so whether u are served with satisfaction, it depends on a lot of reason, including ur luck of getting which customer service officer to attend to u...

obviously there are two sides for everything, there are a lot of ppl like citibank, hsbc or any other banks, but there are ppl like u hate them also... .so it's also up to individual's luck etc also...

there is nothing can be judged by black and white only... becos this world is grey...

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i m not an english teacher, but perhaps u read carefully of what u posted , especially wat is service.

i m not against any bank, i m just reminding u after sales customer service is much more important than b4 /during sales service, don get excited by gimmick given during the sales process coz it was given by the company not the customer service personel, i don hav to say : u will know in future. coz u might be lucky to get a good officer to attend to u.
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 18 2008, 08:48 PM)
i m not an english teacher, but perhaps u read carefully of what u posted , especially wat is service.

i m not against any bank, i m just reminding u after sales customer service is much more important than b4 /during sales service, don get excited by gimmick given during the sales process coz it was given by the company not the customer service personel, i don hav to say : u will know in future. coz u might be lucky to get a good officer to attend to u.
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agreed with u. After sales service is very important.
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I think there's too much obsession over Platinum cards especially those who don't qualify for it. The pros of a platinum card is the quality of service you can get through the dedicated platinum line and the travel insurance that comes with it. If you don't earn enough to qualify, it will not be easy to maintain the card as banks normally would require one to spend >10k a year for the annual fee waiver.

To me when applying for cards, I'd look at the benefits that it has to offer. For example, RHB platinum offers priority pass, which is cool because you gain access to VIP lounges at airports worldwide without having to unnecessarily spend on Business/First Class tickets. Priority Pass cards yearly membership cost about RM380 per year, so it's very worth it.

Other than that, I think some banks need to work on the credit card design. I won't apply for one if it doesn't look good to me.

To those who really want a Platinum card, my advice is to work hard to increase your income to that level. Once you have reached that level, you can pat on you back for having at least achieved a fairly respectable financial standing.

Platinum cards are not for showing off. It is for you to get better service when you need it and for you to enjoy the additional benefits as I have mentioned above.

Also, majority of the rich do not use platinum cards, take for example my direct boss, whose monthly salary easily exceeds the credit limit of many platinum cards out there, is only using a mere classic card. Many ppl think that the rich live the so called 'platinum' or luxurious life, which is wrong. Majority of the rich live frugally and do not show off, but when presented with a good investment opportunity, you will be astounded as to how much money they already have.

Just my 2 cents.


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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 9 2008, 10:00 AM)
10K income is paying average 13% of total income as tax.
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income tax for 10k salary is way more than that, how do you get so much tax relief? as far as I know 6-7k salary already 13% tax.

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From looking at LHDN's website, 120k income p.a. (i.e. 10k monthly) gets hit with RM19,875 in tax. That's overall 16.56% tax. Reliefs, etc not factored in yet.
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 18 2008, 08:48 PM)
i m not against any bank, i m just reminding u after sales customer service is much more important than b4 /during sales service, don get excited by gimmick given during the sales process coz it was given by the company not the customer service personel, i don hav to say : u will know in future. coz u might be lucky to get a good officer to attend to u.
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I think u misunderstood the post. I think what the poster meant was that delivering of the free gift on time without hassles is a sign of good customer service. Unlike other cases where bank promised free gift but never sent and you have to call them to remind them (and sometimes after the reminder the bank still forgets).
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 18 2008, 01:52 PM)
She recently struck a million dollars and was gonna put them all in the bank but decided against OCBC cause they'd rejected her application twicewhistling.gif

Also, I don't like watching movie at Cineleisure; I prefer GSC.
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Wah, struck at what? Lottery? Casino? tongue.gif

How come you don't like Cineleisure?
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QUOTE(jchong @ May 19 2008, 10:33 AM)
From looking at LHDN's website, 120k income p.a. (i.e. 10k monthly) gets hit with RM19,875 in tax. That's overall 16.56% tax. Reliefs, etc not factored in yet.
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i believe what u saw in the LHDN website is the chargeable income, where is after minus all those relief and rebates.
i thinks people got do their tax planning, buy shares, get dividend, and have tax credit to set off your tax and bla bla bla.

ops... y talks about tax in here... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(thtan @ May 19 2008, 09:00 AM)

income tax for 10k salary is way more than that, how do you get so much tax relief? as far as I know 6-7k salary already 13% tax.
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personal relief, EPF, medical insurance, parents medical bill, buy books..... if u r earning 6-7k n u are paid 13% of ur income to LHDN, u should look into ur tax planning.


QUOTE(jchong @ May 19 2008, 10:38 AM)
I think u misunderstood the post. I think what the poster meant was that delivering of the free gift on time without hassles is a sign of good customer service. Unlike other cases where bank promised free gift but never sent and you have to call them to remind them (and sometimes after the reminder the bank still forgets).
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Anyone here would like to share their experiences on using the following cards ?

- HSBC Premier
- RHB VISA Infinite
- AEON Credit Card

Very little has been spoken about user experiences using these cards.

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if im not wrong, there was a user using the AEON credit card.

and he complain it's double charge him on the amount which he already paid.

at the end, he cancelled the card.
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if im not wrong, there was a user using the AEON credit card.

and he complain it's double charge him on the amount which he already paid.

at the end, he cancelled the card.
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I was a victim myself. Made payment but AEON claim they never receive my payment at all. In the end, I paid double just to clear the account and cancel the card.

Every time I walked past a AEON credit card counter and see people signing up, I really want to tell them not to do so. It could turn up to be a mistake given the problems that AEON credit card gives to their customers.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 19 2008, 11:47 AM)
I was a victim myself. Made payment but AEON claim they never receive my payment at all. In the end, I paid double just to clear the account and cancel the card.

Every time I walked past a AEON credit card counter and see people signing up, I really want to tell them not to do so. It could turn up to be a mistake given the problems that AEON credit card gives to their customers.
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OMG ... that sucks, man!
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@thtan,
I'm glad I stumbled upon ur post as I didn't know RHB Platinum's gave access to Airport Lounges. Been scouting for one which gives such services and the only one I found thus far was Standard Chartered's Visa Platinum. I assume you're an existinig RHB Platinum user; would you care to elaborate more about their services? Would you recommend it?

@hye,
U sure are generous but that's not just bad customer service; it also reflects poor information/management system - how would I be able to trust they're professional enough not to give my information away?

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[quote=tinkerbel,May 19 2008, 12:27 PM]
@thtan,
I'm glad I stumbled upon ur post as I didn't know RHB Platinum's gave access to Airport Lounges. Been scouting for one which gives such services and the only one I found thus far was Standard Chartered's Visa Platinum. I assume you're an existinig RHB Platinum user; would you care to elaborate more about their services? Would you recommend it?

RHB issues a Priority Pass(www.prioritypass.com) to all platinum card holders. The priority pass membership is a basic membership, so everytime you enter the lounge you need to pay an entrance fee of (USD24 Mastercard Platinum/USD23.5 Visa Platinum - old rate, not sure if has been revised or not). So instead of buying business class and above ticket you just need to pay that small sum to use the lounge facilities. Very pleasant especially when you need to stopover at a particular city for many hours, bigger airports lounges include bathroom facilities for you to make yourself comfortable. Unfortunately when we travel long distance the schedule is so tight that you don't have time to visit the lounge.
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@thtan,
It works just like Standard Chartered's Visa Platinum. Anyhow, I tried to check out RHB's website for more informatino about their RHB Platinum cards but the links to Consumer Banking doesn't seem to be working *shrugs*

You're actually right, I'm not a jet-setter so I probably wouldn't be utilising this service much anyways biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 19 2008, 11:34 AM)
Anyone here would like to share their experiences on using the following cards ?

- HSBC Premier
- RHB VISA Infinite
- AEON Credit Card

Very little has been spoken about user experiences using these cards.
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I there will be no difference in using HSBC Premier/RHB Visa Infinite. Key thing is the bank that you deal with.

I canceled my Citibank card (very pissed), because they overcharge on the overseas transactions. I swiped my card in Prague(Czech Republic), and got charged >RM5 per euro when my RHB charged me only 4.8++/euro. It doesn't look like a lot of money, but when you charge thousands to your card, it is unnecessary waste of money.

Regarding the Visa Infinite, most of the ppl who qualify do not bother to apply for it. Why? Because the rich(most) do not flaunt their wealth.

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No point one having to pay for annual fees for any credit card. Go for those with free for life card, why want to pay for annual fees and incur more cost. Free dont want to apply/use and it must be something not right.

Even gold card already reach to very high limit credit and equivalent to platinum card credit limit. Come to think of it, it is useless if dont use to that extend of high limit right and dont have any extra more benefit to us and some more need to pay annual fees yearly for platinum card unless have plenty of $$ to spare unnecessary. Even have alot $$ also dont waste it unnecessary right.

Use only free for live credit card else just cut those which need to pay annual fees, no point waste of $$ and need to keep track of it so many credit card or yearly have to call in to get annual fee waived else just terminate the card. Even point earns were scatter when use different bank, redeemption of products thru points is very high in order to redeem.

Staying alow profile is better than showing off in order to avoid any unforseen things eg robbery,get people attention/notice etc

Purpose of credit card is to serve the user without carrying too much cash only. with $$ is King not with alot of credit card.

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i hav a few gold cards, each credit limit about 20K.
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Age : 25
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Degree: Business admin
Job Desciption : Office work
Years spent in company : 2yrs
Company : Private
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Tenure : permanent
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Experience before joining : nil
salary : RM 3.5K, 2months bonus.
Side Income : RM 3K, Selling E.excel products.
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Interesting stuff we have here........
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Interesting stuff we have here........
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like this u also able to spot.
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Staying alow profile is better than showing off in order to avoid any unforseen things eg robbery,get people attention/notice etc

Purpose of credit card is to serve the user without carrying too much cash only. with $$ is King not with alot of credit card.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 19 2008, 03:16 PM)
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like this u also able to spot.
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Remember his/her nick due to the amazing statement here. flex.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 19 2008, 12:27 PM)
@hye,
U sure are generous but that's not just bad customer service; it also reflects poor information/management system - how would I be able to trust they're professional enough not to give my information away?
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@tinkerbel
It was just less than RM100. It was a good 3 months before I could settle all the problems. AEON was not keen to help me out as to them I was a guy who did not pay my debts. Every time I called the CS sounds skeptical about my story as they kept on saying something like "Emm ... we'll check out your story and get back to you later". What frustrates me if that every time I send them my proof of payment (like a couple of times), they will say that they did not receive it. I figured that I can choose to be a miser but it was was my financial credibility that is at stake over here.

I paid the bill but still receiving the bill till day on coz they now owe me a little bit of money. I'm imposing a lifetime ban on AEON credit cards. rclxms.gif Nevertheless, I've been to their office in Japan before so this incident (the Malaysian office) sort of disappoints me on their lackadaisical attitude.

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QUOTE(hye @ May 19 2008, 11:47 AM)
I was a victim myself. Made payment but AEON claim they never receive my payment at all. In the end, I paid double just to clear the account and cancel the card.

Every time I walked past a AEON credit card counter and see people signing up, I really want to tell them not to do so. It could turn up to be a mistake given the problems that AEON credit card gives to their customers.
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ops, its you ar? forget tim. haha.

btw, i thinks hardly got AEON credit card holder in here le. i thinks AEON mostly is target on aunty/uncle who always shopping in Jasco.
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Interesting stuff we have here........
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85K annual income to get gold card 20K credit limit, i think quite normal. coz 48K income can get 8-12K limit.
she is young... hmm.gif
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Just noticed another interesting info. RHBBank mentioned in their website RHB Platinum that the minimum credit limit they'll give would be RM40k but I know someone who is a Platinum card holder of RHB but yet having credit limit of only RM30K. (And it's not an upgraded card - it's a new application)

I'm beginning to lose confidence in all the banks credit card promotions. shakehead.gif They don't even practice what they publicized to the general public. How's that for credibility ?
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@thtan,
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@hye,
I probably would have done the same. Am surprised at their service though as AEON's really big in Japan [or at least that's what I thought them to be] As to RHB Platinum credit limit, perhaps ur friend requested for a lower credit limit instead? *shrugs*

@bysquashy,
Maybe, just maybe his cards are Gold Supplementary cards? smile.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 19 2008, 04:54 PM)
@hye,
As to RHB Platinum credit limit, perhaps ur friend requested for a lower credit limit instead? *shrugs*
Don't think so, I was there when he applied the card and he did not mention anything about a lower credit limit.

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@hye,
Ah well, perhaps he applied before this 'new rule' came about *grins* Are U considering RHB now?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 19 2008, 05:03 PM)
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Ah well, perhaps he applied before this 'new rule' came about *grins*  Are U considering RHB now?
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Nope ... it wouldn't be in my consideration for the moment time being. Although I'm a little puzzled on how come RHB would charge less for the international credit card transaction as stated earlier ? Didn't the forex conversation (for overseas credit card transactions) is all governed by Mastercard / VISA ?
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I'm not too impressed by RHB's website but I always tell myself not to judge a book by its cover. I suppose I can only comment after using their services; am not banking with RHB so I shall have to keep my mouth shut on it smile.gif

Yes the forex rate should be the same throughout the banks; I'm not sure if it's governed by Mastercard/Visa but bank charges are based on the International Exchange rate at point of time.

I suppose it is possible for fluctuations to happen but RM5 difference p/dollar is quite substantial *shrugs*

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Just noticed another interesting info. RHBBank mentioned in their website RHB Platinum that the minimum credit limit they'll give would be RM40k but I know someone who is a Platinum card holder of RHB but yet having credit limit of only RM30K. (And it's not an upgraded card - it's a new application)

I'm beginning to lose confidence in all the banks credit card promotions.  shakehead.gif  They don't even practice what they publicized to the general public. How's that for credibility ?
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Nowadays CC very competitive and banks fighting to get customers. RHB got nothing to loose by issuing the Plat Card to your friend.

2 or 3 years back i got RHB Visa Plat and the credit limit given to me was higher than RM40K but cancel it after they did not want to waive my annual fees in full. Now i have RHB EVO and the credit limit offered to me is higher than your friend's Plat. Nowadays Plat card nothing lah, everybody also can get Plat - i.e. Robinson Plat and UOC One Card Plat.


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I'm not too impressed by RHB's website but I always tell myself not to judge a book by its cover.  I suppose I can only comment after using their services; am not banking with RHB so I shall have to keep my mouth shut on it smile.gif
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Why you didn't keep your receipt after you bank in money into Aeon? If they really did what you said, they really sucks...
Aeon = Licensed Along in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(minthiam @ May 19 2008, 07:43 PM)
@hye,
Why you didn't keep your receipt after you bank in money into Aeon? If they really did what you said, they really sucks...
Aeon = Licensed Along in Malaysia?
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I did actually. I tried to resolve this problem by faxing (a few times) and e-mail and nothing was solved after 3 months. End of 3 months and I finally decided to just pay again whatever their claims were. It's probably my worst credit card experience in all the credit card that I've owned previously.

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My godness...
I think for this case, you can sue them for fraud?
How much did you pay anyway?
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My godness...
I think for this case, you can sue them for fraud?
How much did you pay anyway?
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I paid less than RM 100. (Maybe even less than RM 80 as I can't remember the actual amount anymore) No need to sue them lah. The effort to sue them would cost more money, I think. What goes around comes around.

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haha...luckily it's not that much!! Treat it as a painful experience not to sign up with chao kia company
Looks like i need to warn my friends about Aeon ...
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I think u misunderstood the post. I think what the poster meant was that delivering of the free gift on time without hassles is a sign of good customer service. Unlike other cases where bank promised free gift but never sent and you have to call them to remind them (and sometimes after the reminder the bank still forgets).
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thanks for helping to clarify rite... that's what i mean... i think he really cannot get over it becos he is the unlucky one... so he already had the bad impression towards hsbc, so he cannot accept any compliment from others to the bank.... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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85K annual income to get gold card 20K credit limit, i think quite normal. coz 48K income can get 8-12K limit.
she is young... hmm.gif
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If it's done on p/time basis, income wouldn't be consistent each month; i doubt they take that into consideration *shrugs*
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If it's done on p/time basis, income wouldn't be consistent each month; i doubt they take that into consideration *shrugs*
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Maybe yes, maybe no. Because if you use your income tax statement which shows the cumulative income then harder to point out whether the income is coming from a part/full time job.
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If it's reflected on Income Tax then I suppose it's fine but how many people actually report such to income tax?! *grins*
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It's possible esp for those who does it full time biggrin.gif
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If you checked their website carefully, you will notice that there are inconsistencies. Some pages do indicate a minimum credit limit of 20k for Mastercard Plat and 25k for the Visa equivalent. Previously the min limit was 40k.

tinkerbel,
I have no problems accessing RHB's web page(with both firefox and IE), just that some inconsistencies regarding the credit limit and some other stuff.

Gen-X,
RHB's platinum card comes with Priority Pass, (which costs USD99 /yr - from the website). Even though the bank may get cheaper rates for the annual fees, still it will cost them to renew your pass yearly. I guess that's why they refuse to waive it totaly. Perhaps you didn't charge much to your card during that year.



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I couldn't link into their Consumer Banking page earlier but I did manage to get onto the site hye provided and navigate through it smile.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 19 2008, 05:59 PM)
Nope ... it wouldn't be in my consideration for the moment time being. Although I'm a little puzzled on how come RHB would charge less for the international credit card transaction as stated earlier ? Didn't  the forex conversation (for overseas credit card transactions) is all governed by Mastercard / VISA ?
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The conversion rate is supposed to be governed by the Mastercard/VISA. However, banks like Citibank charge additional administration fee on top of the conversion rate. Citibank states 1%, there are banks that charge 2%. With respect to exchange rate, Direct Access cards is one of the best. Cancelled my DA card because I'm simply too lazy to transfer my money to CIMB to facilitate the payment. RHB's rates seems quite reasonable, I had actually made some money(from exchange rate difference) when claiming for expenses from my company. Never did compare DA to RHB's rate before, so I don't know which is better.

Some of you guys have dozens of cards, do let me know which is best.

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QUOTE(kindaichi @ May 19 2008, 09:36 PM)
thanks for helping to clarify rite... that's what i mean... i think he really cannot get over it becos he is the unlucky one... so he already had the bad impression towards hsbc, so he cannot accept any compliment from others to the bank.... rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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I did say i m not against any bank. perhaps different ppl has different standard on customer service , suits urself. rolleyes.gif

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@hye,
If it's reflected on Income Tax then I suppose it's fine but how many people actually report such to income tax?! *grins*
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The conversion rate is supposed to be governed by the Mastercard/VISA. However, banks like Citibank charge additional administration fee on top of the conversion rate. Citibank states 1%, there are banks that charge 2%. With respect to exchange rate, Direct Access cards is one of the best.
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I never knew Citibank rates was 1% on top and before this I did try to look for this info but they never did indicate the actual percentage. MBF (If I remember it correctly), charges 2.5% as administration fee on top of the conversion rate.

And when you mention RHB and DA - what would be the admin rates ? Or you are referring to the conversation rates?

Anyone here knows what is HSBC admin rates (if any) are and the competitiveness of their conversation rates ?


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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 19 2008, 10:52 PM)
I did say i m not against any bank. perhaps different ppl has different standard on customer service , suits urself.
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OK guys .... let's break it up. Enuff on the topic please ? icon_question.gif

I'm also very particular these days about CS but it's a large credit card market out there. Different people would have different expectations on things, that's normal and it's a normal human tendency. If you don't like a particular bank for one reason or another, just cancel the card. Over the years, only AEON is the credit card that I'll never return to. As I mentioned before, it took me 2 cancellations with HSBC before I actually liked them.

I have applied for SCB for 3 times before finally getting my approval from them. In the end, I still cancel the card despite they offered to give me a Platinum card but without a credit limit upgrade, I couldn't see why I should say yes + the T&C acceptance of the Platinum card requires me to keep the existing Gold card. Emm ... I don't think so. I probably would have said yes to a VISA (Which give me access to the PriorityPass) but they offered me a Mastercard. rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(thtan @ May 19 2008, 10:41 PM)
hye,
If you checked their website carefully, you will notice that there are inconsistencies. Some pages do indicate a minimum credit limit of 20k for Mastercard Plat and 25k for the Visa equivalent. Previously the min limit was 40k.
Yeah ... I think I saw this too. Now I remembered my friend reason for applying for RHB's credit card. He got disappointed with the bank's offering and initiated the process to cancel the card.

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QUOTE(hye @ May 19 2008, 11:00 PM)
I never knew Citibank rates was 1% on top and before this I did try to look for this info but they never did indicate the actual percentage. MBF (If I remember it correctly), charges 2.5% as administration fee on top of the conversion rate.

And when you mention RHB and DA - what would be the admin rates ? Or you are referring to the conversation rates?

Anyone here knows what is HSBC admin rates (if any) are and the competitiveness of their conversation rates ?
As far as I know, both RHB and DA does not charge admin fees for overseas transactions. RHB's call centre claims they use the current TT/OD Selling rate. For DA, honestly I don't know, you can call DA hotline anyway.

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QUOTE(hye @ May 17 2008, 09:09 AM)
Not so sure about this. The other member mentioned about his experience over in Bank Negara in KL but did not mention the possibility of doing so in other states?

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If you still holding MyKid... no need check lah. tongue.gif

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why citibank keep offer upgrade for client?Like no standard. shakehead.gif
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It's a strategy. Gold card holder are asking for free waiver. Too many already, you throw a stone into a crowd, most likely you'll hit a gold card holder (or maybe two). tongue.gif No waiver means cancel card.

The way to go is to promote platinum and charge for the premium image for those who not actually qualified for 120k-150k requirement, but due to their spending pattern and payment, are allowed to be platinum wink.gif

QUOTE(hye @ May 19 2008, 08:55 PM)
I paid less than RM 100. (Maybe even less than RM 80 as I can't remember the actual amount anymore) No need to sue them lah. The effort to sue them would cost more money, I think. What goes around comes around.
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With the proper receipt/bank in slip, you can lodge a claim/report with BNM. I did once with StanChart, but it was due to home loan interest error by the bank system itself.

All banking and insurance must comply with BNM rules & regulation. e.g.

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@kindaichi,
Well, I've absolutely NO problems with HSBC smile.gif
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DA dont have charge for overseas transaction....i have used in Bali and Phnom Phen....there no charges on the credit card....just convertion...
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I don't recall paying any additional charges for the transaction I made whilst in Hong Kong using my Citibank Clear Card. Then again, I didn't swipe too large an amount *gulps* but when I did the conversion, I didn't think there was a great variance to the currency exchange

I also didn't pay any additional charges for UOB, which is my primary card when I'm overseas biggrin.gif

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DA dont have charge for overseas transaction....i have used in Bali and Phnom Phen....there no charges on the credit card....just convertion...
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I believe they already include the charges inside the convertion rate. As you can find out, the rate is sux.
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The rate I paid was quite 'standard', just a lil higher than what I would have paid if I used cash
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The Priority Pass by RHB and SC Visa Plat sounds like a handy thing to have.

What special features do other Plat cards offer? Anything that stands out?
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Other benefits are basically 'across the board'
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That's what I thought. Mostly they are the same, but then again there might have been a special feature I missed out (like the Priority Pass). So I thought I'd ask.

Looks like it boils down to which has good points redemption, no annual fee and reasonable customer service. I'm leaning towards the DA card.
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@jchong,
I don't use DA as my primary card but thus far it hasn't failed me. I've not contacted the CS either so can't comment on their service. Oh, also when u dont' spend on the account, U don't receive a bill at the end of the month smile.gif
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@jchong,
I don't use DA as my primary card but thus far it hasn't failed me.
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Which do you use as primary? For me it's MBB (because of good points redemption).

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 20 2008, 06:09 PM)
Oh, also when u dont' spend on the account, U don't receive a bill at the end of the month  smile.gif
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HSBC also the same.
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@jchong,
I use Citibank as my primary card; am thinking of switching but all points are on that account so am aiming to use it for a couple more months, get sufficient points for that luggage travel bag and switch to HSBC or UOB.

Surprisingly, I received my HSBC Statement of Accounts for $0.00 last month. As I'm new with them, I thought they send out statements on a monthly basis regardless of spending or not biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 20 2008, 06:09 PM)
@jchong,
I don't use DA as my primary card but thus far it hasn't failed me.  I've not contacted the CS either so can't comment on their service.  Oh, also when u dont' spend on the account, U don't receive a bill at the end of the month  smile.gif
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yes. i did not received my DA statement since no transaction.

OCBC as well.

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 20 2008, 08:15 PM)
@jchong,
I use Citibank as my primary card; am thinking of switching but all points are on that account so am aiming to use it for a couple more months, get sufficient points for that luggage travel bag and switch to HSBC or UOB.

Surprisingly, I received my HSBC Statement of Accounts for $0.00 last month.  As I'm new with them, I thought they send out statements on a monthly basis regardless of spending or not  biggrin.gif
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you still want HSBC? perhaps yewkhuay have not tell his story to you.

UOB is my main primary card now. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 20 2008, 08:15 PM)
Surprisingly, I received my HSBC Statement of Accounts for $0.00 last month.  As I'm new with them, I thought they send out statements on a monthly basis regardless of spending or not  biggrin.gif
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I've been with HSBC for several years. In the past they did send out monthly statement regardless of spending. Then some time last year I notice they stopped sending statement for zero balance.

Perhaps as a new user they will send you a few statements first even if zero balance. hmm.gif
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No he hasn't told me his HSBC terror. Ah well, I could choose to use UOB or HSBC, I haven't quite decided *grins* but until I've accumulated 187k points on my Citibank, I ain't going to change my primary card smile.gif
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International promotions? Like what for example?
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I'm particularly interested to hear about this HSBC horror story. hmm.gif

Guess everyone would have some bad stories to tell about their credit card provider. With HSBC, I went through the stage of unhappy, funny and now happy (satisfied so far).

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Yeah,come one....can somebody tell their horror story about HSBC?
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few months back i posted my HSBC bill at RM0.10 , and credit limit RM1. i m premier account holder.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 20 2008, 10:34 PM)
I'm particularly interested to hear about this HSBC horror story.  hmm.gif

Guess everyone would have some bad stories to tell about their credit card provider. With HSBC, I went through the stage of unhappy, funny and now happy (satisfied so far).
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i have nothing sad about HSBC. all is smooth from the 1st day until now.
and it's is my 1st CC.

Redeem gift got no problems at all.
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 20 2008, 11:27 PM)
few months back i posted my HSBC bill at RM0.10 , and credit limit RM1. i m premier account holder.
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That's one heck of a mistake that HSBC did to you ? Tell us more of the story and the ending of the story as well. (Especially if they compensated you for this mishap)
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That's one heck of a mistake that HSBC did to you ? Tell us more of the story and the ending of the story as well. (Especially if they compensated you for this mishap)
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i cancelled my cards ,they sent back without calling me, few weeks later when i was free i walked in n cancel again,they ask me to settle a few cents charges which they charged me for late payment for the annual fees ( which was the reason y i cancel card) , the officer waived the few cents, all done and fine.

another gal call in ask me to keep at least 1 card, i keep 1 card,they send again. the monthly bill came, i owe them 1cent, and my credit limit is RM1 ( i posted the snap of the bill at here b4), i keep quiet n keep the card until now. i think i need not ask them to check my account status with them, coz the officer who handle my premier account know i wont take any card from them. i m OK with HSBC, but sorry for the cards.
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I believe they already include the charges inside the convertion rate. As you can find out, the rate is sux.
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hmm..i think not much difference when i calculate back the conversion rate....it like normal conversion rm1=2800 rupiah...their charge like 28XX....not much also... biggrin.gif
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1. Copy of NRIC (both sides) or passport, including supplementary applicants'
2. Latest income tax return (Form J)
3. Latest 2 months' salary slip; and
4. Latest 3 months' savings account activity/current account statements


i have 1,3 and 4, i just work for 5 months fresh.. i do not have Form J, can it be substitute by EPF statement??
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1. Copy of NRIC (both sides) or passport, including supplementary applicants'
2. Latest income tax return (Form J)
3. Latest 2 months' salary slip; and
4. Latest 3 months' savings account activity/current account statements
i have 1,3 and 4, i just work for 5 months fresh.. i do not have Form J, can it be substitute by EPF statement??
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You mean credit card application ? Yes, it shouldn't be a problem. Normally you can just make do with salary slip but the bank may ask for additional documents.
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juz wondering.. ist possible for maybank cc holders to increase the current credit limit? other than having increased salary..??
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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 21 2008, 09:13 AM)
juz wondering.. ist possible for maybank cc holders to increase the current credit limit? other than having increased salary..??
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If you call them and ask about this question, they'll definitely ask for your new salary slip. (Most probably 1-3 months salary slip) Otherwise

- You need to put in a lot of money in FD
- Automatic upgrade which is offered once in a blue moon, provided the bank thinks you are entitled to it.
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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 21 2008, 09:13 AM)
juz wondering.. ist possible for maybank cc holders to increase the current credit limit? other than having increased salary..??
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I did twice with MBB. Both times also I hit the credit limit usage continuously every month due to company expenses. No changes in my salary, and MBB did not request for any documentations.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ May 21 2008, 09:48 AM)
I did twice with MBB. Both times also I hit the credit limit usage continuously every month due to company expenses. No changes in my salary, and MBB did not request for any documentations.
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thats more like temporary increase.. rite? or.. ist permanent?
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@fikrie,
No harm requesting right? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 21 2008, 08:37 AM)
You mean credit card application ? Yes, it shouldn't be a problem. Normally you can just make do with salary slip but the bank may ask for additional documents.
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yes, cc application.
i'm working from mon-fri, can i mail/fax the documents to them? or they need to see the ori docs?
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They don't need to view the original so just fax a copy to them smile.gif
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Credit increase also depends on many factors, one is prompt payment. If you have been paying on time and using regularly - you are a good customer - no reason the bank won't increase.

Unless you are asking a HUGE jump over your current allowed CR,
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@ferricide,
I somehow don't know if that's true cause I never got my credit limit increased despite being a prompt paymaster and have good credit record.
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Hello, newbie here. I just want to highlight that CIMB and DA have the best foreign exchange rate. I used my CIMB and Citibank Gold Card at US and Japan. Citibank caused me to loose money (the rate worser than I exchange from money changer). And CIMB gave me the best rate even better than my company exchange rate.

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@tinkerbell,

Yup, it is correct and it does work.

If you wanna know just how true this is, try to spend BIG like 1 time swipe 30% of your limit and pay on time promptly, chances are you will get mail from da bank in the coming months about an increasing ur limit due to blah blah, good customer, blah blah, good paymaster, blah blah. tongue.gif

Not recommended unless you wanna prove me otherwise smile.gif Its not THE criteria, but ONE of the criterias they measure u on.


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Hello, newbie here. I just want to highlight that CIMB and DA have the best foreign exchange rate. I used my CIMB and Citibank Gold Card at US and Japan. Citibank caused me to loose money (the rate worser than I exchange from money changer). And CIMB gave me the best rate even better than my company exchange rate.
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Dunno, but normally I change my money at the local singh/bayee money changers lar.

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@ferricide,
I ocassionally spend >50% my credit limit and make payment promptly except they still rejected my application. Anyhow that was years ago. 2 days ago I received yet another upgrade from Citibank from Clear Card to Gold except I'm not going to take it up. They did give me additional credit limit but i'm not interested
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 21 2008, 02:07 PM)
@ferricide,
I ocassionally spend >50% my credit limit and make payment promptly except they still rejected my application.  Anyhow that was years ago.  2 days ago I received yet another upgrade from Citibank from Clear Card to Gold except I'm not going to take it up.  They did give me additional credit limit but i'm not interested
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Strange, but then again its up to the banks to decide. So far I had a few CL increases, but you can always set a cap in case you are worried you card PWNs you. brows.gif
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@ferricide,
PWNs?!
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oops... meant OWNs. But in leet (elite) talk, its PWNZ tongue.gif
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Oh... dat I'm not worried smile.gif
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QUOTE(ferricide @ May 21 2008, 01:53 PM)
Credit increase also depends on many factors, one is prompt payment. If you have been paying on time and using regularly - you are a good customer - no reason the bank won't increase.

Unless you are asking a HUGE jump over your current allowed CR,
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For some banks like Citibank, HSBC, other banks as well.. that could be true.. But i dun think Maybank is that generous to simply increase based on steady/prompt payment.. Perhaps if i opt for home loan or wateva products relate to loans, maybe they will consider.. O'wise, they would definitely ask for new salary slip if i wish to increase my credit limit..

A'way.. like wat tinkerbell said, wont hurt if ask.. nod.gif
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I tried ask to increase my Citibank credit limit last time. But they said if permanent increase need to submit document blur blur.... I'm so lazy and ask for temporary increase credit limit up to 50% only, and only valid for 1 month. And you only allow to apply one month earlier. That mean if u plan to increase by August, apply by July. If u apply now, they will not entertain.
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@shauyan,
I did put in the documentations as requested but it wasn't entertained. Perhaps I should put in another request and see what they say this time smile.gif
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It's hard to judge how the banks increase ur credit limit IMO..
Im just got my my Citibank Clear upgraded to Citibank Gold card, limit RM4000 upgraded to RM6000. Then i applied CIMB Petronas Mastercard using Citibank card, CIMB gives me RM12000 limit.. i also feel strange..
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@accs_centre,
Citibank generally gives a 50% increase in limit when they 'upgrade' ur card. I haven't bothered to open to the upgraded Gold card I received as I'm not interested to activate it.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 21 2008, 04:18 PM)
@accs_centre,
Citibank generally gives a 50% increase in limit when they 'upgrade' ur card.  I haven't bothered to open to the upgraded Gold card I received as I'm not interested to activate it.
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@tinkerbel
Citibank recently gave me a RM8K upgrade after a 2 year wait. The last I submitted my docs twice and each time they rejected my CL upgrade application. I gave up on the idea on them being nice to me despite this is the one card which I have been holding on the longest. It's up for cancellation soon.

Too bad Citibank. shakehead.gif
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@hye,
Coincidentally, Citibank's also my longest held card but I do intend to stop it; Clear card benefits are no longer as good and I sure can live without their little-tiny-weeny credit limit!

Ah well, it'll just benefit some other bank! *grins* Speaking of which, I haven't even received my complementary Platinum card but I'm not going to chase them...
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 21 2008, 04:48 PM)
@hye,
Ah well, it'll just benefit some other bank! *grins*  Speaking of which, I haven't even received my complementary Platinum card but I'm not going to chase them...
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Agree with you totally. This time around I wouldn't give them anymore business from myself (I'm not upset or anything like that) and would give the business to the next bank in line. thumbup.gif

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how many of you use maybank card?
thier gold card, how long to apply?
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QUOTE(ferricide @ May 21 2008, 01:53 PM)
Credit increase also depends on many factors, one is prompt payment. If you have been paying on time and using regularly - you are a good customer - no reason the bank won't increase.

Unless you are asking a HUGE jump over your current allowed CR,
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im prompt payment for my HSBC CC. and after 1 year, i got increased of RM500 to my credit limits. sweat.gif
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yes, cc application.
i'm working from mon-fri, can i mail/fax the documents to them? or they need to see the ori docs?
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non degree can apply?
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QUOTE(IceBikers @ May 21 2008, 08:52 PM)
non degree can apply?
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Shouldn't be a problem. Most banks would only ask for your proof of income (e.g salary slips, etc) but if you are applying for DA cards then they require the degree as part of their documentation requirements.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 21 2008, 09:21 PM)
Shouldn't be a problem. Most banks would only ask for your proof of income (e.g salary slips, etc) but if you are applying for DA cards then they require the degree as part of their documentation requirements.
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so far, for me, DA gives me the highest credit limits.
at first very fancy about it, now din really bother to care about it.
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I asked DA to reduce my credit limit to 6k 2 months ago since I din use it much.
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 21 2008, 09:38 PM)
I asked DA to reduce my credit limit to 6k 2 months ago since I din use it much.
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so are you managed to reduce ur credit limits??
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 21 2008, 09:44 PM)
so are you managed to reduce ur credit limits??
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Yup, at first I asked them reduce to 5k but they say gold card minimum need 6k limit (dunno if this is true), so I agree.
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 21 2008, 09:46 PM)
Yup, at first I asked them reduce to 5k but they say gold card minimum need 6k limit (dunno if this is true), so I agree.
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this sound interesting.
first time hear this situation.


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Ah well... I don't understand all these status stuff - it bewilders me that Citibank actually offered an upgrade to Gold Card offering RM6k credit limit! One would assume credit limit increases with these 'status' but well, I suppose the banks are really playing the market share game instead these days biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 21 2008, 10:28 PM)
Ah well... I don't understand all these status stuff - it bewilders me that Citibank actually offered an upgrade to Gold Card offering RM6k credit limit!  One would assume credit limit increases with these 'status' but well, I suppose the banks are really playing the market share game instead these days  biggrin.gif
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they offered me upgrade Gold card with RM4.5k credit limit. sweat.gif

guess, soon or later you will get call from them, persua you to active your gold card. tongue.gif
pls update us with the call contain, if they call.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 21 2008, 11:18 PM)
they offered me upgrade Gold card with RM4.5k credit limit. sweat.gif

guess, soon or later you will get call from them, persua you to active your gold card.  tongue.gif
pls update us with the call contain, if they call.
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This will be interesting to watch. blink.gif I can't believe what Citibank is up to these days. Market share or not but it's decreasing the value of the product and subsequently the brand (Citibank) as well.
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@vin_ann,
I've not received the call from Citibank but previously when they 'tried' upgrading me from my current card to the Shell card, they did call. There was no need for any persuasion; I told her I wasn't interested.

This time round if Citibank calls again, I'll ask her whatever happened to the Platinum card of mine instead (I certainly pity the poor gal who's gonna make the call to me). I also thought I remembered telling Citibank I wasn't interested in an upgrade of card; just credit limit tongue.gif

@hye,
Now U know it matters not - I mean with cards like the UOB ONE Platinum being offered, what would U expect of the banks? rclxub.gif

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@hye,
Now U know it matters not - I mean with cards like the UOB ONE Platinum being offered, what would U expect of the banks?  rclxub.gif
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Hahaha .... it was a long debate on that card in the last thread. cool.gif Anyway ... I think you need your beauty sleep for the nite. Don't stay up too late ! rclxub.gif

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MBB Petronas Visa cardholder, do you guys receive a brochure highlighting promotions exclusively for Petronas Visa cardholder?
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i heard applying CC thru agent, the application process is faster than approaching bank. true ar?
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MBB Petronas Visa cardholder, do you guys receive a brochure highlighting promotions exclusively for Petronas Visa cardholder?
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Yes ... I already did. A few days back, it was the holidays promo this time.


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i heard applying CC thru agent, the application process is faster than approaching bank. true ar?
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1. If you applied and send the application directly to the bank's card processing centre - fastest.
2. Send it via bank branches - medium / depends on your luck. Banks gather all the documents first they want to send out before they dispatch it to the main branch.
3. Apply via credit card agent who works for the bank - medium / fast / depends on your luck. (Similar to scenario 2)
4. Apply via credit card agent - slowest / medium (and not to mention risky). An unethical agent may sell your personal details to a 3rd party without you knowing it.

My worst experience is dealing with a credit card agent was with SCB's (P**** S********) - the guy lost my application and then act as if nothing happens. I asked him where's my application and he said lost it / didn't get it / all sort of excuses. 2-3 times of follow up and then I gave up.

Another time, it was with a lady (But I can't remember for which bank) - I faxed over the docs and then she said she shifted office and don't want to go back to the old office to pick up the docs. It was difficult to get her in the first place and after strike 3 - you're out!

Thank god I don't have to deal with credit card agents these days + if I do see something like that I won't apply already. So, you still want to apply via agent ?

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thanks for the infor, i just download citibank application form n decided to pos laju/fax to them
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QUOTE(hye @ May 22 2008, 08:30 AM)
Yes ... I already did. A few days back, it was the holidays promo this time.


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1. If you applied and send the application directly to the bank's card processing centre - fastest.
2. Send it via bank branches - medium / depends on your luck. Banks gather all the documents first they want to send out before they dispatch it to the main branch.
3. Apply via credit card agent who works for the bank - medium / fast / depends on your luck. (Similar to scenario 2)
4. Apply via credit card agent - slowest / medium (and not to mention risky). An unethical agent may sell your personal details to a 3rd party without you knowing it.

My worst experience is dealing with a credit card agent was with SCB's (P**** S********) - the guy lost my application and then act as if nothing happens. I asked him where's my application and he said lost it / didn't get it / all sort of excuses. 2-3 times of follow up and then I gave up.

Another time, it was with a lady (But I can't remember for which bank) - I faxed over the docs and then she said she shifted office and don't want to go back to the old office to pick up the docs. It was difficult to get her in the first place and after strike 3 - you're out!

Thank god I don't have to deal with credit card agents these days + if I do see something like that I won't apply already. So, you still want to apply via agent ?
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OMG... so lame the credit card agent. btw, if the agent care about the commission, they wont do this kind of things.
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@hye,
Didn't get sufficient rest; tummy upset. No wonder I'm feeling tired this morning but have a meeting at Gardens so can't sleep in *grins*

I'm quite surprised at the agents tidak apa attitude. Nevertheless, the once I applied through an agent for my current Citibank card, she was pretty good. In fact, a year later when Citibank offered me a Visa she came to my home to get my signature; and mind u that wasn't even for a Platinum card; just their Clear Card

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wah, so nice your agent. i never come accross this kind of agent. lucky i got friend who working in the citibank. she nice also. i applied through her. when my card is approved, she give me a call ask me go to citibank to collect.(tht time need citibank card so urgently and badly)

only those agents who push their credit card very hard. they will find ways to ask u apply.
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@hye,
Didn't get sufficient rest; tummy upset.  No wonder I'm feeling tired this morning but have a meeting at Gardens so can't sleep in *grins*

I'm quite surprised at the agents tidak apa attitude.  Nevertheless, the once I applied through an agent for my current Citibank card, she was pretty good.  In fact, a year later when Citibank offered me a Visa she came to my home to get my signature; and mind u that wasn't even for a Platinum card; just their Clear Card
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wah so good.. intro intro agent here la.. so ppl can apply thru her.. give her business ma.. hehe
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i would say be careful of some agents , they just wanna submit for u to fulfill quota . I applied a citibank card but I didn't provide my working address and said would call her back to fill the details in ... but I was travelling for 2 weeks and forgot about it ... a month later ... I got a letter from citibank rejecting my application which should not have been submitted cos info not complete.

the agent never answered my calls and sms at all ...
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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 21 2008, 09:59 AM)
thats more like temporary increase.. rite? or.. ist permanent?
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Permanent, both times increase within <1 yr. 1st increase 7k, 2nd increase 5k. I've been using the card for 1-2 years at that time.

I tried request temporary increase from Citibank CC 1 week before my trip. Come back M'sia, still no news on approval/reject on the temporary increase. doh.gif

Maybe because both cards are classic class rolleyes.gif hence lower customer service level/priority/whatever.

Now I remember there was one time I was in SG, checking out hotel ~rm3k bill, but short of rm300 credit limit. I call up MBB, explain my issue, put on hold for 5-10 min, and immediate increase. Check out and rush to airport sweat.gif sweat.gif Go back KLIA still can swipe on alcohol, fags and chocs tongue.gif Don't know how much temporary increase they gave me.

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I somehow don't know if that's true cause I never got my credit limit increased despite being a prompt paymaster and have good credit record.
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That's my same experience with Citibank. My MBB/Citibank spending & payment pattern is the same. But nowadays, I use MBB cards 95% of the time.

Couple of months back, Citibank send the Shell card to me. I didn't reply/activate. Then they call me up, I say no thanks cause I use Esso/Mobil. tongue.gif

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I've no idea if she's still with Citibank; that was about 8 years ago. And well, I don't know if she was near but heck she actually did come to the house just for a signature! tongue.gif

@cute_boboi,
For the sake of discussion, I will tell them I'm not interested in the gold card but would like to request for an increase in credit limit on my current one when they call asking me to activate the upgraded Gold card.

I don't quite believe in all these temporary credit increase cause there was once I tried calling them asking them for a temporary increase in credit limit and it was rejected. I was going for a surgery and needed to swipe the remainder of the RM4k but they declined my request. I used UOB instead biggrin.gif
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i have 2 bank cc.....the RHB terminated cos when i ask them to increase temporary they reluctant...cos that time i gtg go europe biz trip....hence i damn fustrated & came back clear all the debts at one shot(5k) & terminate it...then they call why la this & that....i just ignore & official write letter & fax to them...hence they still sent me the statement & i notice my credit limit increase....i call up her when my cc no cancel yet....then only they cancel.....Is themselves lost my business...

now i only stick to MBB cc....taught wana ask for upgrade...anyone here is using Standard charterred?
btw, why using citybank...its troublesome when wana pay for payment as limited branches available....overall i find MBB cc is good.....expecially their Amex cc is good lehhh.....their points accumulation no expire date & somehow is 2x....

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@scoobie27,
I usually make my payment through a cheque and send it by mail so it doesn't matter how many outlets or where their branches are tongue.gif
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I owned a Citibank gold card. It doesn't give me any advantage or additional benefit when I travel overseas (or maybe I really dont use it). Somemore the foreign exchange rate really sucks!! I am planning to terminate it as it only free for 2 yrs.

Last time i heard about ppl said Citibank is well known and accepted everywhere. And other local bank cc may not. I think it is not true anymore. I can said I used my CIMB and DA in US and Japan before. They never question about my cc and successfully made the payment.



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I have a Hong leong gold card, and usually every year without fail they will give me a 2-3k increase..hehe...

but then i must be a good customer, usually max out my card at least thrice a year and prompt payment.


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QUOTE(scoobie27 @ May 22 2008, 03:24 PM)
overall i find MBB cc is good.....expecially their Amex cc is good lehhh.....their points accumulation no expire date & somehow is 2x....
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Yes. I like MBB AMEX Gold credit card too. Use it most of the time. This card is still new to me as i just got it 2 months ago and i am a supplementary card holder. Is it true that Treatpoints have no expiry date ?


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@scoobie27,
I usually make my payment through a cheque and send it by mail so it doesn't matter how many outlets or where their branches are tongue.gif
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Oh, speaking of settling your credit card bill using cheque, any idea if there is any extra charge paying by cheque ? Because here in Kota Kinabalu, there is no Citibank branch. And if i pay Citibank credit card bill using money transfer, the bank will charge me RM2.00/transaction. So is there any extra charge ?


QUOTE(shauyan @ May 22 2008, 04:03 PM)
I owned a Citibank gold card. It doesn't give me any advantage or additional benefit when I travel overseas (or maybe I really dont use it). Somemore the foreign exchange rate really sucks!! I am planning to terminate it as it only free for 2 yrs.

Last time i heard about ppl said Citibank is well known and accepted everywhere. And other local bank cc may not. I think it is not true anymore. I can said I used my CIMB and DA in US and Japan before. They never question about my cc and successfully made the payment.
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If you travel a lot, then you might want to consider HSBC Premier Mastercard (a World Mastercard) and AMEX Charge Card. Exchange rate is reasonable for both cards, or so i hear.



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@MilesAndMore,
I don't pay extra when I use cheque to make payment for my Citibank credit cards but I am based in KL.

On a separate note I finally opened the upgraded Gold card Citibank sent to me. I'm ashamed! Perhaps embarassed! They offer me an upgrade of my current card with a nice letter that says "For a start, u'll enjoy up to 50% increase in your credit limit". When I open up the envelope I see the total combined credit limit given on this Gold Card is RM7k [I get RM12,800 on my current Clear card]

It sure looks like it's time to cancel my Citibank credit cards. I'm so humiliated!! mad.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 22 2008, 05:17 PM)
If you travel a lot, then you might want to consider HSBC Premier Mastercard (a World Mastercard) and AMEX Charge Card. Exchange rate is reasonable for both cards, or so i hear.
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Not exactly. I've been researching this since i just got back from a trip. Mastercard and Visa charges a surcharge on top of the exchange rate. The banks also choose to charge an additional administration charge on top of that

Maybank: 0.5% (i think)
CIMB/DA: None
Hong Leong: 1%
PBB: No Info
Citibank: 1%
HSBC: 1%
EON: 2%

Amex has a higher surcharge then Mastercard and Visa.

Edit: Mistake - Eon Bank is 2%

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yeah, I was similiar case like you. Already near credit limit but before statement due date. Need to travel and already estimate need higher credit to clear air fare, hotel, meals, etc. In the end, stop using Citibank and has been loyal to MBB since...

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I applied S&C earlier this yr, just for the sake of the free gift and try whether I can get it or not. Rejected as well tongue.gif I've an M1 a/c with them, which is in 0.00 balance now, as I dump in all extra money (for emergency) there.

So, for those of you who gets rejected, don't despair. All my CC have 5-figure credit limit, but still get rejected by HSBC and StanChart. whistling.gif

Yeah, I'm using MBB Amex credit card also, the points I collected is going to overtake my MBB Visa.

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That's another thing I don't like. RM0.15 for a cheque. RM0.30 for a stamp. Petrol, time, parking, etc to mail/detour to Citibank/StanChart/HSBC/etc. those banks with lesser branches in KL.

Yes, it is just a matter of cents, but seems like part of my principle. I rather drop RM10 on the road than spending those cents to make payment, unless they have very attractive offer/support to me.

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Agree. Previously there is the prestige and brand name to it. Not anymore nowadays, it is so competitive that after sales/customer service is more important, especially those raised by some here.

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TP expiry not sure. My MBB Amex is nearing its 2 yrs free, and my other MBB cards are >5 yrs old, the points are still there, but I cannot recall the FIFO points date, as I've redeemed some stuff 2 yrs ago. This June will be going to MBB TP Fair at MV again.

IINM, if you snail-mail your cheque from KK for Citibank, it is considered outstation cheque clearance, which has additional RM0.50 to clear the cheque. I might be wrong or outdated with this info.

I think I'm not qualified for HSBC Premier MAstercard tongue.gif I applied normal gold card also get rejected. Not that interested on Amex Charge Card, as I'm using Amex Credit Card, which has similiar specs. Even Amex Charge card has a virtual credit limit based on spending history.

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It sure looks like it's time to cancel my Citibank credit cards.  I'm so humiliated!!  mad.gif
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shocking.gif What a joke... biggrin.gif If you feel humiliated, the Shell card they offer to me is only 5k credit limit, when in fact my Citibank classic is 15k. How should I feel ? Anyway, the reason I reject Shell card is not due to this, but due to I'm using Esso/Mobil.

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Amex has a higher surcharge then Mastercard and Visa.
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Great info. 99% most of the charges I swipe overseas are under company expenses, so I don't care much about the extra %, but I do note previously SGD-MYR using Amex/Visa is around 2.36 while the baiyee exchange rate is 2.29-2.31 only.


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I've got to check about the administration cost re using the Credit Card out of MY. Folks been travelling a lot and I been swiping quite a bit so I might as well use the one that gives me the best rates. So far, I've been using UOB and the rates seem to be quite alright smile.gif

@cute_boboi,
I don't remember how much additional credit limit was offered on the Shell Citibank upgrade card they sent to me; i'm not interested in switching but trust me; if they do call me and ask me about not activating this Gold card they're going to regret it!

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 22 2008, 10:43 PM)
I've got to check about the administration cost re using the Credit Card out of MY.  Folks been travelling a lot and I been swiping quite a bit so I might as well use the one that gives me the best rates.  So far, I've been using UOB and the rates seem to be quite alright smile.gif

@cute_boboi,
I don't remember how much additional credit limit was offered on the Shell Citibank upgrade card they sent to me; i'm not interested in switching but trust me; if they do call me and ask me about not activating this Gold card they're going to regret it!
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They have not called you yet ? Actually I received a call from them offering me Shell card. I say no thanks but yet, I still get it in my snail-mail 7-10 days later. So I put it aside, after 1-2 weeks, they call again asking "can they activate the card" ?

Again, I say no thanks. Then I notice my CC statement has this additional card details. doh.gif Anyway, I'm going to leave it as it is, and 1-2 yrs later, if they start charging me annual fees, I'm going straight to BNM again.

Anyway, please record down your conversation with them and share with us tongue.gif

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@cute_boboi,
I'm gonna have to call Citibank tomorrow as there seem to be a discrepancy on my bill; it's a v small amount [my phone call probably cost me more! hAHahAHahAHa RM0.54 BUT i need to know what charge that is!]

Ain't going to being up the upgrade of card until some officer call me. Let's hope she calls when I'm in a bad mood and when I've time to speak with her. And let's see what she says about giving me a reduced credit limit when her letter tells me it's an increase in credit limit.

I think I'll let her tell me Y i should upgrade the card; due to increase in credit limit of 50% and bla bla bla and then onli I shoot her in the face ! laugh.gif
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I've got to check about the administration cost re using the Credit Card out of MY.  Folks been travelling a lot and I been swiping quite a bit so I might as well use the one that gives me the best rates.  So far, I've been using UOB and the rates seem to be quite alright smile.gif

@cute_boboi,
I don't remember how much additional credit limit was offered on the Shell Citibank upgrade card they sent to me; i'm not interested in switching but trust me; if they do call me and ask me about not activating this Gold card they're going to regret it!
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we are looking forward ur conversation btw you and the citibank CS.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 22 2008, 10:43 PM)
I've got to check about the administration cost re using the Credit Card out of MY.  Folks been travelling a lot and I been swiping quite a bit so I might as well use the one that gives me the best rates.  So far, I've been using UOB and the rates seem to be quite alright smile.gif
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Plenty of interesting developments over the last 24 hours I see. Anyway, just let your folks enjoy their holidays but in the meantime, i think you are about to clean your credit card accounts.

I agree with ya - the CL that they offer to you is simply ridiculous. I wouldn't have accept it myself.

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@hye,
Come to think of it, instead of waiting for bank officer to call me, I should send an official letter to them. In fact, I'll attention it to a Vipin Agrawal, Business Director, Cards & Personal Loans and await a response.

It'll be fun to see what their reply is.
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maybank called to offer AMEX, is it OK card?

just received my 'act of sympathy' UOB card, i applied with gold card, they give one platinum with gold card credit limit.....
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 22 2008, 10:55 PM)
@cute_boboi,
I'm gonna have to call Citibank tomorrow as there seem to be a discrepancy on my bill; it's a v small amount [my phone call probably cost me more! hAHahAHahAHa RM0.54 BUT i need to know what charge that is!]

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yes, RM0.54 is a matter of principle. Side-track: StanChart charge me rm2k+ for M1 home loan interest that they can't explain few yrs ago. In the end, it was a big mess rclxub.gif doh.gif

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maybank called to offer AMEX, is it OK card?

just received my 'act of sympathy' UOB card, i applied with gold card, they give one platinum with gold card credit limit.....
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Amex CREDIT or CHARGE card ? Anyway, I think both are alright, especially if you make full payment. Somemore it is 2x points FOREVER, including pumping any fuels (Shell, Petronas, Caltex, Esso, Mobil, etc.) except your yatch diesel fuel tongue.gif

The points add up quite fast. However, pumping petrol with 2% rebate sounds better...

Added: BTW, I've been using MBB Amex Credit card for 2 yrs. No problem with it, local or overseas. Never encounter a problem at all.


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QUOTE(zenquix @ May 22 2008, 10:12 PM)
Not exactly. I've been researching this since i just got back from a trip. Mastercard and Visa charges a surcharge on top of the exchange rate. The banks also choose to charge an additional administration charge on top of that

Maybank: 0.5% (i think)
CIMB/DA: None
Hong Leong: 1%
PBB: No Info
Citibank: 1%
HSBC: 1%
EON: 1%

But if i'm not mistaken, HSBC doesn't charge admin fee for their Premier Mastercard for overseas spending. It is one of the perks for being their Premier Banking customers.


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maybank called to offer AMEX, is it OK card?
Yes. It is good. The difference is that if you are using MBB AMEX credit card, you can earn 2x Treatpoints for every RM1 spent. For AMEX charge card issued by MBB, you won't earn Treatpoints but will be awarded "Membership Reward Points" instead. And you will have to pay an annual fee to enroll in American Express "Membership Reward Points" program or else there will be no point for you.


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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 23 2008, 12:45 AM)
Yes. It is good. The difference is that if you are using MBB AMEX credit card, you can earn 2x Treatpoints for every RM1 spent. For AMEX charge card issued by MBB, you won't earn Treatpoints but will be awarded "Membership Reward Points" instead. And you will have to pay an annual fee to enroll in American Express "Membership Reward Points" program or else there will be no point for you.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, doesnt AMEX charge interest the next day after u swipe the card..?? so, it keeps accumulating till the statement date.. m i rite?? dun hav any AMEX, but that was wat my frens told me..
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Correct me if i'm wrong, doesnt AMEX charge interest the next day after u swipe the card..?? so, it keeps accumulating till the statement date.. m i rite?? dun hav any AMEX, but that was wat my frens told me..
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Nope ... you got your info all wrong. icon_question.gif There's 2 types of AMEX in Malaysia - credit card and debit card (both issued by MBB as they bought over AMEX operations sometime back)

- Credit card version functions similar to a normal typical credit card. You won't be charged interest unless you don't pay in full when the billing cycle comes.
- Charge (edited) card version you need to pay in full. Else you'll be charged a penalty for it (I'm not sure about the interest on the unpaid balance)

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Do anyone know about MBB AMEX Krisflyer? Actually i'm not interested in AMEX (i just cancelled my MBB AMEX 1 yr ago). But I'm interested in the free Bonus 5000 krisflyer point when first charge the card. Can I apply the card and cancel it before 1 yr (before I pay the second yr fee)?
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@zenquix,
I just checked - there were no admin charges on the stuff I paid for when I was in HK. I used UOB & Citibank.
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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 23 2008, 09:08 AM)
Correct me if i'm wrong, doesnt AMEX charge interest the next day after u swipe the card..?? so, it keeps accumulating till the statement date.. m i rite?? dun hav any AMEX, but that was wat my frens told me..
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No. They do NOT charge you interest. AMEX presence here in Malaysia is not big, but overall they are the most used card and biggest in the world. Yes, bigger than VISA and Mastercard. Super famous in USA and Europe.


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Nope ... you got your info all wrong.  icon_question.gif There's 2 types of AMEX in Malaysia - credit card and debit card (both issued by MBB as they bought over AMEX operations sometime back)

- Credit card version functions similar to a normal typical credit card. You won't be charged interest unless you don't pay in full when the billing cycle comes.
- Debit card version you need to pay in full. Else you'll be charged a penalty for it (I'm not sure about the interest on the unpaid balance)
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Actually AMEX do offer 2 kinds of card. You got it right for credit card, but not the second one. They only offer credit card and charge card, not debit card.
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Actually AMEX do offer 2 kinds of card. You got it right for credit card, but not the second one. They only offer credit card and charge card, not debit card.
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You are right about that ... my mistake. Corrected it already.
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Just an update - I called Citibank to ask about the RM0.54 Finance Charge and apparently it's because I was owing them $. Officer on the phone tells me my bill last month was supposed to be $3400 but I had only paid $3300 hence the RM0.54 charges.

I told her I didn't know my bill was $3400 as it reflected $3300 on my total bill hence I issued a cheque for $3300. She apologised and reversed the charges. I also asked for the Business Director's contact details but she was unable to furnish that to me, instead told me to fax to this correspondence number [of which I told her I didn't trust cause I've faxed it over previously and never received a reply].

Anyhow, got called for a lunch meeting so I haven't gotten down to writing the letter but seriously, now that I've vented it out here, I feel much better. Doesn't it seem too petty to be sending Citibank a letter just cause of the Gold card CL? *grins*
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I just checked - there were no admin charges on the stuff I paid for when I was in HK.  I used UOB & Citibank.
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Could it have been not specifically stated in your statement and absorbed into the exchange rate? I know there is a court case in US over this...

The numbers I quoted were extracted from their website. Perhaps they have a change in policy where they may or may not charge it? *shruggg*
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@zenquix,
I actually forgot to ask the CitiPhone officer about this when I called them earlier *gulps* I've to call DA so will check with them but I think it was reported here there are no additional charges on DA.

I'll get back when I've spoken with Citibank, UOB and DA smile.gif


Added on May 23, 2008, 5:26 pm@zenquix,

I just spoke with the banks and Ur right - there IS an additional surcharge which Mastercard / Visa charges over and above the exchange rate [that's basically the 'administrative charge' the banks charge to us].

QUOTE(zenquix @ May 22 2008, 10:12 PM)
Not exactly. I've been researching this since i just got back from a trip. Mastercard and Visa charges a surcharge on top of the exchange rate. The banks also choose to charge an additional administration charge on top of that

Maybank: 0.5% (i think)
CIMB/DA: None
Hong Leong: 1%
PBB: No Info
Citibank: 1% --> verified by tinkerbel
HSBC: 1% --> refer to comment below
EON: 2%
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Standard Chartered: 1%
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In addition to ur list:-
1) HSBC will also charge a Misc fee; bank isn't able to provide details on what that is but according to CS whom I spoke with, there's a small misc fee

Looks like I should stick with UOB! Oh.. DA CS pissed me off so I didn't bother to ask.

@vin_ann,
It'll be great if U could put this information on Post #1 for easy reference biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 23 2008, 12:45 AM)
But if i'm not mistaken, HSBC doesn't charge admin fee for their Premier Mastercard for overseas spending. It is one of the perks for being their Premier Banking customers.
Yes. It is good. The difference is that if you are using MBB AMEX credit card, you can earn 2x Treatpoints for every RM1 spent. For AMEX charge card issued by MBB, you won't earn Treatpoints but will be awarded "Membership Reward Points" instead. And you will have to pay an annual fee to enroll in American Express "Membership Reward Points" program or else there will be no point for you.
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but does it take double the reward points to redeem same item under treatpoints?
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@MilesAndMore,
I don't know if Premier Mastercard holders are waived the 1% cause when I called CS just now, I asked if the 1% is applicable to all cards and she said Yes. I'd forgot to ask her about the Premier Mastercard! Damn.. Now I need to get that verified again *gulps* Unless of course ur 100% sure smile.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 23 2008, 04:55 PM)
@zenquix,
I actually forgot to ask the CitiPhone officer about this when I called them earlier *gulps*  I've to call DA so will check with them but I think it was reported here there are no additional charges on DA.

I'll get back when I've spoken with Citibank, UOB and DA smile.gif


Added on May 23, 2008, 5:26 pm@zenquix,

I just spoke with the banks and Ur right - there IS an additional surcharge which Mastercard / Visa charges over and above the exchange rate [that's basically the 'administrative charge' the banks charge to us].
In addition to ur list:-
1) HSBC will also charge a Misc fee; bank isn't able to provide details on what that is but according to CS whom I spoke with, there's a small misc fee

Looks like I should stick with UOB!  Oh.. DA CS pissed me off so I didn't bother to ask.

@vin_ann,
It'll be great if U could put this information on Post #1 for easy reference  biggrin.gif
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Updated.

btw,additional info for DA, there is no additional charges on it, as early year this, around March i paid my ACCA subscriction fees in pound online and when i checked the online statement, the exchange rates used is just abit higher than the current rate by 0.02 like this. im very happy with it.
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@vin_ann,
If U oredi got that information verified then just add it to the list but I think zenquix oredi listed DA in biggrin.gif

I just need MilesAndMore to verify on the HSBC Mastercard Premier so I know which cards I can use *grins*
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but does it take double the reward points to redeem same item under treatpoints?
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No. If you spend RM8k on MBB Visa to get 8k TP for a RM50 voucher, you only need to spend RM4k on MBB Amex credit card to get 8k TP for the same RM50 voucher.
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I just need MilesAndMore to verify on the HSBC Mastercard Premier so I know which cards I can use *grins*
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No. I am not sure about that. It is just what i heard from somebody. It is better if you just walk up to their credit card centre in Kuala Lumpur (Petaling Street ??) to ask one of the staffs directly. Many HSBC employees keep claiming that this Premier Mastercard is a Platinum Mastercard which is so NOT true. Premier Mastercard is a World Mastercard, a level higher than platinum mastercard.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ May 23 2008, 08:21 PM)
No. If you spend RM8k on MBB Visa to get 8k TP for a RM50 voucher, you only need to spend RM4k on MBB Amex credit card to get 8k TP for the same RM50 voucher.
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thanks ! i shall wait for the card n TnC to read up.
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Yes the Premier Mastercard HSBC offers is apparently a grade above their Platinum cards. I'll check and verify if the 1% is applicable on this Premier Mastercard and get back to all smile.gif

@yewkhuay,
Let me know cause I probably am going to shift bank and want a bank that gives me the greatest value on points biggrin.gif
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@MilesAndMore,
Yes the Premier Mastercard HSBC offers is apparently a grade above their Platinum cards.  I'll check and verify if the 1% is applicable on this Premier Mastercard and get back to all smile.gif

@yewkhuay,
Let me know cause I probably am going to shift bank and want a bank that gives me the greatest value on points  biggrin.gif
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if my card credit is 5k, but i charge it over limit 1k, will i be fine?
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I just like the MBB amex card for its points accumulation...the best thing i like is the treat poiints no expire date....the only not good is not much place accept AMEX...but i have another MBB master.......NO problem at all using MBB in overseas as i do have europe biz trip....
Just claim my treat point again for RM200 voucher(parkson)....shoping shooping ....fuyohhh....

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If the bank approves the transaction it'll probably be fine. I don't know about other banks but Citibank charges a fee for transactions above stipulated credit limit. RM25 I think.
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thanks ! i shall wait for the card n TnC to read up.
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oh... u applied MBB Amex?

btw, i saw this when shop at the Jasco just now. the wired thing is, Maybank is Jasco's Bank, but why Citibank managed to do their promotion there?

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if im not wrong, Jasco One Utama got the Visa Wave device, while Jasco Wangsa Maju still dun have. sad.gif
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$ resolves a lot of issues biggrin.gif It's also part of Marketing smile.gif

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oh... u applied MBB Amex? 

btw, i saw this when shop at the Jasco just now. the wired thing is, Maybank is Jasco's Bank, but why Citibank managed to do their promotion there?

if im not wrong, Jasco One Utama got the Visa Wave device, while Jasco Wangsa Maju still dun have.  sad.gif
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oh... u applied MBB Amex? 

btw, i saw this when shop at the Jasco just now. the wired thing is, Maybank is Jasco's Bank, but why Citibank managed to do their promotion there?



if im not wrong, Jasco One Utama got the Visa Wave device, while Jasco Wangsa Maju still dun have.  sad.gif
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Just look at how u keep ur stuff; 8 months oredi torn... u big buwee / abuser... And U expect people to believe that it was *I* who threatened U?! doh.gif
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being a daily use card, it should be proud to retire b4 expiry....
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@labtec,
If the bank approves the transaction it'll probably be fine.  I don't know about other banks but Citibank charges a fee for transactions above stipulated credit limit.  RM25 I think.
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Ah.. I see. In that case, I don't suppose there's a problem if the bank esp if the bank allowed the transaction. U perhaps should call the bank and ask for a temporary increase in credit limit to be 100% sure
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@labtec,
If the bank approves the transaction it'll probably be fine.  I don't know about other banks but Citibank charges a fee for transactions above stipulated credit limit.  RM25 I think.
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@vin_ann,
$ resolves a lot of issues  biggrin.gif  It's also part of Marketing smile.gif
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i dun know the reason why but pls dun spell Jusco as Jasco.. it hurts my head cry.gif  cry.gif
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I was wondering if there are a wide selection of choices for fresh graduates who just started to work (without 3-month payslip documentation)?

What about for those with no income statements (say..housewives)?

Came across these questions over lunch and was curious of the possibilities...
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who knows direct access head office address and fax ?
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I was wondering if there are a wide selection of choices for fresh graduates who just started to work (without 3-month payslip documentation)?

What about for those with no income statements (say..housewives)?

Came across these questions over lunch and was curious of the possibilities...
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Direct access card no need. Just your degree and offer letter will do.
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I was wondering if there are a wide selection of choices for fresh graduates who just started to work (without 3-month payslip documentation)?

What about for those with no income statements (say..housewives)?
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For fresh graduates, they can try to apply using 1 month payslip. Probably if they are working for big companies, the banks will see this as lower risk but if they are working for smaller companies then very difficult to get approval.

Banks will ask for any proof of income and this demonstrate the person ability to pay off their expenses. So if that is non-existent then I doubt so any banks will issue this group a credit card.
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Their card centre address: Direct Access, P.O. Box 11751, 50756 Kuala Lumpur
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@moonstone13,
You can alwiz check out Direct Access' Credit Card for Graduates. U should be able to get more information on the card here

@IceBikers,
You might want to try:
Direct Access
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t: 603 - 6204 7878
directaccess@cimb.com

G.. U people are so quick! I was typing and when I posted, I saw I was late ! *gulps* laugh.gif

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QUOTE(moonstone13 @ May 24 2008, 04:02 PM)
I was wondering if there are a wide selection of choices for fresh graduates who just started to work (without 3-month payslip documentation)?

What about for those with no income statements (say..housewives)?

Came across these questions over lunch and was curious of the possibilities...
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Maybe their hubby supp cards for them.
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@moonstone13,
I don't think housewives would qualify as principal cardholder unless the card's a complementary one biggrin.gif
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Thanks tinkerbel, soitsuagain and hye for your constructive input.

Interesting read up on the direct access card though. I wonder if the rate of success is high with an application with less than 3 months pay-slip.

Thinking of applying a credit card before flying off to attend my very own convocation in August. A credit card would be handy instead of carrying a stack of cash. Will start work with Shell in June/July (depending how fast HR can process my particulars).

Hmm...
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Interesting read up on the direct access card though. I wonder if the rate of success is high with an application with less than 3 months pay-slip.

Thinking of applying a credit card before flying off to attend my very own convocation in August. A credit card would be handy instead of carrying a stack of cash. Will start work with Shell in June/July (depending how fast HR can process my particulars).

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My advise is just try your luck, you may never know if you managed to get 1 pay slip. Just be forewarned, most banks will have in their application form your employer's details and probably one of the info they'll ask is that how long you have been with them. *Hint*

It can't hurt to be patient (just carry cash for your convo) just a little bit longer since you have came this far. Congrats on your convo ! thumbup.gif


On another note .... I wonder if any of the banks are taking notice of all of our complaints in this forum. Some of our CS experiences are horrifying enough and probably the banks would want to take note. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(hye @ May 24 2008, 11:58 PM)
My advise is just try your luck, you may never know if you managed to get 1 pay slip. Just be forewarned, most banks will have in their application form your employer's details and probably one of the info they'll ask is that how long you have been with them. *Hint*

It can't hurt to be patient (just carry cash for your convo) just a little bit longer since you have came this far. Congrats on your convo !  thumbup.gif
On another note .... I wonder if any of the banks are taking notice of all of our complaints in this forum. Some of our CS experiences are horrifying enough and probably the banks would want to take note.  unsure.gif
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@hye,
I doubt the banks have personnels on forums to read up on their bad/good CS. On a separate note, I sent out the letter to Citibank - I also pointed out the issue I had with corresponding with them and not hearing from them [I highlighted a case of which I sent in a letter 7 years ago asking for an explanation when my request for a temporary increase in credit limit was rejected; of which I have yet to receive a reply till now]. I ended my letter telling them I hope I didn't have to wait 7 years for a reply.

Most importantly, I said not to take my 2 page letter as a complain, instead feedback! laugh.gif

Anyone think they'll respond? I'm quite sceptical but never try never know.

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got a n00b question here... when pumping petrol using cc, there is no way to select the amount that you want to pump?
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got a n00b question here... when pumping petrol using cc, there is no way to select the amount that you want to pump?
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It depends on which brand of petrol you use. Some allow you to choose how much you want to pump, but some not.
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@HMMaster,
It used to be possible but I usually put in full tank so I ain't 100% sure. The other option is for U to let the attendant know U want to pay a fixed amount so he could key that in for u biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 25 2008, 12:16 AM)
@hye,
I doubt the banks have personnels on forums to read up on their bad/good CS.  On a separate note, I sent out the letter to Citibank - I also pointed out the issue I had with corresponding with them and not hearing from them [I highlighted a case of which I sent in a letter 7 years ago asking for an explanation when my request for a temporary increase in credit limit was rejected; of which I have yet to receive a reply till now].  I ended my letter telling them I hope I didn't have to wait 7 years for a reply.

Most importantly, I said not to take my 2 page letter as a complain, instead feedback!  laugh.gif
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Very courageous of you to send such letter ! rclxm9.gif One of the answers that I hate so much is whenever the bank rejected your card application, credit limit increase (temporary/permanent), etc (you get the picture). They always blame it on the management - such answers like "The management have decided not to approve your application" or "It's the management's decision" is always the norm. To me this sounds very impersonal + lots of people out there who's well educated and they'll know it's just a lame excuse.

Anyone with similar experiences ?
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@hye,
Yes I totally think they should at least give us a good reason when they reject our application. I'm sure we aren't a bunch of unreasonable people; we just get unreasonable when they can't give us proper reasoning smile.gif

It ain't no biggie sending that letter out; it is afterall a feedback letter and Citibank isn't monopolising the market so if they want to black list me on their own individual record it's fine; they won't be able to do a CCRIS blacklist with BNM cause I've done nothing wrong biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 25 2008, 12:16 AM)
@hye,
I doubt the banks have personnels on forums to read up on their bad/good CS.  On a separate note, I sent out the letter to Citibank - I also pointed out the issue I had with corresponding with them and not hearing from them [I highlighted a case of which I sent in a letter 7 years ago asking for an explanation when my request for a temporary increase in credit limit was rejected; of which I have yet to receive a reply till now].  I ended my letter telling them I hope I didn't have to wait 7 years for a reply.

Most importantly, I said not to take my 2 page letter as a complain, instead feedback!  laugh.gif

Anyone think they'll respond?  I'm quite sceptical but never try never know.
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I'm glad you sent them the letter. I'm a strong believer in officially writing to a company if there really is something to complain or give feedback about. In the past I've written to Bally, Siemens, Hush Puppies, Tiffany, Schick and Ambank (this one related to their CC). I did get fairly prompt replies from all of them and relatively positive resolutions too.

To me, all companies can make mistakes (it's still run by imperfect humans) but it is how they respond that shows how good or bad they really are. So please let us know if and how Citibank responds.
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@jchong,
I certainly will keep you updated when and IF Citibank responds smile.gif If some place exceeds my expectation, I too will send a letter congratulating them, not just when expectations aren't met smile.gif
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Banks tell me they can't reveal the information as it's P&C - i actually wonder if there's a specific ruling that makes them say it's P&C cause if it's information I want on MY account, I don't see what's wrong smile.gif
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Maybe the banks don't want to reveal their evaluation criteria for fear of people knowing how to workaround their system?
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@jchong,
Letting us know why our application isn't approved isn't asking them to give us their trade secrets - it could be as simple as:-
1) U aren't earning enough so we can't give U the increase in credit limit
2) U are owing banks too much $ and deem as high credit risk

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EON Bank targets 100,000 new cardholders

KUALA LUMPUR: EON Bank is targeting 100,000 new cardholders for its new co-branded credit cards – The Store and The Pacific Gold and Platinum Cards – targeted at price-savvy consumers.

Its partner, The Store Corp Bhd, has a network of 58 outlets under The Store and five hypermarkets under wholly owned subsidiary, Pacific Hypermarket & Departmental Store Sdn Bhd.

EON Bank, in a statement, said it believed The Store & Pacific Gold and Platinum Credit Cards would draw a segment of consumers who wanted more from their spending value through exclusive shopping, home furnishing and dining discounts.

“The addition of The Store & Pacific Gold and Platinum Credit Cards to our portfolio comes during a period when consumer demand for more purchasing power and value is at a high point,” EON Bank Group head (consumer banking) Michael Lor said after launching the card in Alor Star on Saturday.

Over the last six months, the bank’s card circulation grew to 530,000 and it is expected to reach 650,000 cards by year end.

The new co-branded credit cards offer holders double the reward points and access to low prices, promotions during sales as well as gift redemption vouchers.

Platinum cardholders also enjoy free insurance coverage of up to RM100,000, travel accident benefits of up to RM2mil and special will-writing services. – Bernama

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...66&sec=business
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@jchong,
Letting us know why our application isn't approved isn't asking them to give us their trade secrets - it could be as simple as:-
1) U aren't earning enough so we can't give U the increase in credit limit
2) U are owing banks too much $ and deem as high credit risk
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Yeah, I agree with ya. We have the right to know as we're not asking about someone else's account! It's ours! vmad.gif I've came across this scenario one too many times in my lifetime.
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QUOTE(labtec @ May 23 2008, 11:10 PM)
if my card credit is 5k, but i charge it over limit 1k, will i be fine?
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Depends on the card. So far, I have not been able to go above the credit limit, even by RM10.
e.g. credit limit 10k
used up 9.5k
want to swipe 510 = cannot go through doh.gif

QUOTE(DerekKuah @ May 23 2008, 11:27 PM)
I just like the MBB amex card for its points accumulation...the best thing i like is the treat poiints no expire date....the only not good is not much place accept AMEX...but i have another MBB master.......NO problem at all using MBB in overseas as i do have europe biz trip....
Just claim my treat point again for RM200 voucher(parkson)....shoping shooping ....fuyohhh....
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Are you sure no expiry for MBB TP ? Previously it was 2 yrs, but I'm not sure on the latest T&C for TP expiry now. I tried find in MBB online, but cannot find details.

QUOTE(moonstone13 @ May 25 2008, 12:04 AM)
Thanks for the tip mate. And yes, I do hope that some bank personnel do take note of the criticisms (be it constructive or not) in this thread.
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I think most banks do not allow their staff to go online. Everything is blocked/controlled. sweat.gif
Maybe they can do it from home.

QUOTE(HMMaster @ May 25 2008, 01:09 PM)
got a n00b question here... when pumping petrol using cc, there is no way to select the amount that you want to pump?
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Esso & Mobil = yes. Press 2nd button "preset" key in amount in RM, press enter, then swipe CC, wait for approval, then swipe Smiles card, then pump.

Shell = no. I have asked the counter and attendant. All say cannot if using CC doh.gif you have to have steady hands and fingers when it reaches the limit you want.

Others not sure.

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@hye,
Sis and I were just having a conversation last night about banks. Apprently, UOB called the house for verification [we figured dad must've swipped a large amount & know he wouldn't pick up unregistered calls when he's abroad]. Apparently all they wanted to know was whether dad was overseas. The bank had refused to let us know how much he swiped [which is fine] but when we asked what currency the bank just repeated their question and asked if dad was overseas. It was when we said he was in Korea that the bank officer told us that he had swiped some korean won *doh* [and that's not even true cause dad swiped it all in USD!]

Anyhow, sis was just saying - the next time a bank calls, she's going to ask them to verify they're really from the bank:-
1) What's my father's name?
2) What's his billing address?
3) How does he normally make his payment?
4) What's his NRIC?
5) What's his mother's maiden name?

Now.. it'll be funny to see how the conversation goes - anyone wanna try and report back to us on the conversation?
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Saw petrol rebate on any petrol station on DA Mastercard? How it works? Is this a old story? Thanks

http://www.directaccess.com.my/pdf/petrol%...t%20leaflet.pdf
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@shauyan,
Just use DA Mastercard to put petrol and U'll get 2% rebate off ur petrol purchases. It will be reflected on ur bill and it is only up to a max pump of RM2500 p/month or RM50 rebate smile.gif
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QUOTE(shauyan @ May 26 2008, 11:53 AM)
Saw petrol rebate on any petrol station on DA Mastercard? How it works? Is this a old story? Thanks

http://www.directaccess.com.my/pdf/petrol%...t%20leaflet.pdf
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it's a real thing.. i juz got my DA statement few days back.. it even came with flyer promoting about the rebate..

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only applicable for mastercard only...
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 26 2008, 11:04 AM)
@hye,
Sis and I were just having a conversation last night about banks.  Apprently, UOB called the house for verification [we figured dad must've swipped a large amount & know he wouldn't pick up unregistered calls when he's abroad].  Apparently all they wanted to know was whether dad was overseas.  The bank had refused to let us know how much he swiped [which is fine] but when we asked what currency the bank just repeated their question and asked if dad was overseas.  It was when we said he was in Korea that the bank officer told us that he had swiped some korean won *doh* [and that's not even true cause dad swiped it all in USD!]

Anyhow, sis was just saying - the next time a bank calls, she's going to ask them to verify they're really from the bank:-
1) What's my father's name?
2) What's his billing address?
3) How does he normally make his payment?
4) What's his NRIC?
5) What's his mother's maiden name?

Now.. it'll be funny to see how the conversation goes - anyone wanna try and report back to us on the conversation?
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i did this to the AMEX officer who called to offer AMEX card, as he ask for my mom's name as part of registration purpose, i questioned him back how could he doesn't have my mom's name if he is referred by maybank and how can i be sure tht he is not calling to cheat my mom's name so tht he can use it on my other cards verification purposes ( as we all fill in mother maiden's name is application for loans / cards )?

then he started to explain himself, giving his name n office number for me to call, then i ask him since he is referred by maybank to offer AMEX card, he should hav my 3digit security code for credit card, but he doesn't have.... then i gave him my sister name as mother maiden's name, just in case. unsure.gif

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@yewkhuay,
In ur case, he was probably given just a phone number and no additional details. HSBC is centralised so when I had sufficient $ to become a Premier Member and enrolled for it, they just took all my details from their existing database off my record as a HSBC Gold credit cardholder. tongue.gif
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@hye,
Sis and I were just having a conversation last night about banks.  Apprently, UOB called the house for verification [we figured dad must've swipped a large amount & know he wouldn't pick up unregistered calls when he's abroad].  Apparently all they wanted to know was whether dad was overseas.  The bank had refused to let us know how much he swiped [which is fine] but when we asked what currency the bank just repeated their question and asked if dad was overseas.  It was when we said he was in Korea that the bank officer told us that he had swiped some korean won *doh* [and that's not even true cause dad swiped it all in USD!]

Anyhow, sis was just saying - the next time a bank calls, she's going to ask them to verify they're really from the bank:-
1) What's my father's name?
2) What's his billing address?
3) How does he normally make his payment?
4) What's his NRIC?
5) What's his mother's maiden name?

Now.. it'll be funny to see how the conversation goes - anyone wanna try and report back to us on the conversation?
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Your sis is cute.. rclxms.gif ..is she still available? drool.gif
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@yewkhuay,
In ur case, he was probably given just a phone number and no additional details.  HSBC is centralised so when I had sufficient $ to become a Premier Member and enrolled for it, they just took all my details from their existing database off my record as a HSBC Gold credit cardholder.  tongue.gif
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Your sis is cute..  rclxms.gif  ..is she still available?  drool.gif
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@whoknows,
I just make her sound cute *ugh* Shouldn't U be asking if I was available instead of her being available mad.gif

@yewkhuay,
I never hid that fact did I?! In fact, if U browsed through the posts I made that's 'public information' !! laugh.gif

It sure looks like I should stop promoting MY sister and start some self promoting laugh.gif

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@whoknows,
I just make her sound cute *ugh*  Shouldn't U be asking if I was available instead of her being available  mad.gif

It sure looks like I should stop promoting MY sister and start some self promoting  laugh.gif
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@hye,
I doubt the banks have personnels on forums to read up on their bad/good CS.  On a separate note, I sent out the letter to Citibank - I also pointed out the issue I had with corresponding with them and not hearing from them [I highlighted a case of which I sent in a letter 7 years ago asking for an explanation when my request for a temporary increase in credit limit was rejected; of which I have yet to receive a reply till now].  I ended my letter telling them I hope I didn't have to wait 7 years for a reply.

Most importantly, I said not to take my 2 page letter as a complain, instead feedback!  laugh.gif

Anyone think they'll respond?  I'm quite sceptical but never try never know.
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btw, i thinks nowadays, sending letter is abit troublesome and time consuming.
since u are citibank online user, you can login into your account and send the feedback from ur compose mail there.

for this purpose, i had enquiry about the HSBC things, and they do reply me within few days. OCBC bank as well.
while Citibank not sure. if got chances, going to try it out.

btw, the queue very long already? sweat.gif can i join. tongue.gif
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@vin_ann,
Yes it is time consuming to write an official letter but I think it's important as I want an official reply from them. I didn't post it off, but faxed it off. And if I don't hear from them in 2 weeks, I'm going to re-send the letter; this time I'm going to go through the Citibank Platinum Priority Line biggrin.gif

I've tried using the feedback / contact us through Citibank online but again I never received a reply! *grins* I don't want them to tell me my mail was lost in space but well since U brought it up, perhaps I'll just relog in and cut the entire letter into it and send it off wink.gif

*looks at sis's queue*
*looks at her own queue*
*shakes her head* unsure.gif
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*looks at sis's queue*
*looks at her own queue*
*shakes her head*  unsure.gif
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@tinkerbel
Post a picture of yourself and maybe your queue will grow exponentially as well. icon_idea.gif

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@hye,
That's me in a rather shy pose:

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Also, this thread's about Credit Cards so let's keep to topic. And unlike sis, I don't need long queues; one individual will be suffice biggrin.gif

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Btw, did you guys know about this new BNM ruling whereby if you are not a full pay master of your credit card for the past 12 months, beginning from June/July, all your transactions would be charged finance charges (17% p.a.) the moment you swipe. It means irregardless what you buy be it petrol or PC parts, it will have finance charges starting on the transaction date itself.

I have no idea why on earth the government is doing all these. The current situation is terrible enough yet they implement this rule to kill us further. I'm sure more than 50% card users do not settle full amount every month so the banks now earn extra 1.41% all of a sudden every month. If you swipe for handphone, etc then they charge you extra 2-3%. This is pathetic!!!
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clawhammer, old news. Have been discussing that few months back.

Perhaps vin_ann could update that to 1st post.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 27 2008, 12:03 AM)
clawhammer, old news. Have been discussing that few months back.

Perhaps vin_ann could update that to 1st post.
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I know it's an old news because I receive the brochure some time back but it's going to be implemented in the next few days (at least for Citibank). The government couldn't stop making stupid decisions.
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I know it's an old news because I receive the brochure some time back but it's going to be implemented in the next few days (at least for Citibank). The government couldn't stop making stupid decisions.
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Maybank and HSBC have been distributing that leaflet since last year if I'm not mistaken.

CIMB DA distributed it early this year.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 27 2008, 12:06 AM)
Maybank and HSBC have been distributing that leaflet since last year if I'm not mistaken.

CIMB DA distributed it early this year.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 26 2008, 11:56 PM)
Btw, did you guys know about this new BNM ruling whereby if you are not a full pay master of your credit card for the past 12 months, beginning from June/July, all your transactions would be charged finance charges (17% p.a.) the moment you swipe. It means irregardless what you buy be it petrol or PC parts, it will have finance charges starting on the transaction date itself.

I have no idea why on earth the government is doing all these. The current situation is terrible enough yet they implement this rule to kill us further. I'm sure more than 50% card users do not settle full amount every month so the banks now earn extra 1.41% all of a sudden every month. If you swipe for handphone, etc then they charge you extra 2-3%. This is pathetic!!!
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OMG, no more 20days interest free cash.
din have the time to properly to find out. now i got it.

QUOTE(David83 @ May 27 2008, 12:03 AM)
clawhammer, old news. Have been discussing that few months back.

Perhaps vin_ann could update that to 1st post.
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updated.
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@vin_ann,
Yes it is time consuming to write an official letter but I think it's important as I want an official reply from them.  I didn't post it off, but faxed it off.  And if I don't hear from them in 2 weeks, I'm going to re-send the letter; this time I'm going to go through the Citibank Platinum Priority Line  biggrin.gif

I've tried using the feedback / contact us through Citibank online but again I never received a reply! *grins*  I don't want them to tell me my mail was lost in space but well since U brought it up, perhaps I'll just relog in and cut the entire letter into it and send it off wink.gif

*looks at sis's queue*
*looks at her own queue*
*shakes her head*  unsure.gif
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don't worry, i m always behind u (while queueing up for the sis...).

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@tinkerbel
Post a picture of yourself and maybe your queue will grow exponentially as well.  icon_idea.gif
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i THINK i have seen her pics.

QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 26 2008, 11:56 PM)
Btw, did you guys know about this new BNM ruling whereby if you are not a full pay master of your credit card for the past 12 months, beginning from June/July, all your transactions would be charged finance charges (17% p.a.) the moment you swipe. It means irregardless what you buy be it petrol or PC parts, it will have finance charges starting on the transaction date itself.

I have no idea why on earth the government is doing all these. The current situation is terrible enough yet they implement this rule to kill us further. I'm sure more than 50% card users do not settle full amount every month so the banks now earn extra 1.41% all of a sudden every month. If you swipe for handphone, etc then they charge you extra 2-3%. This is pathetic!!!
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be a good payer then any rules won't affect u. at the end of the day, we wanto enjoy the benefits n conveniences brought by CC not the restriction n troubles. cheers.

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I totally mis-read the part about "Interest Free" period - didn't know it depends on our past 12 months payment also. I mean if I'm not a full pay master and still 18% per annum and doesn't change then I won't give a heck but now, it's finance charges since day one. Thanks BN and BNM, you are really the "Barang Naik" of Malaysia.


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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 27 2008, 12:25 AM)
be a good payer then any rules won't affect u. at the end of the day, we wanto enjoy the benefits n conveniences brought by CC not the restriction n troubles. cheers.
We don't get a say nor decide on the restriction and troubles. Someone from BNM and BN did it for us smile.gif
Saying is easier than done. Of course if I can pay everything then I wouldn't even need a credit card in the first place or I'll just get AMEX or any other charge cards. Plus, we need to be full pay master for the next 12 months to re-enjoy the interest free period. It's such a dumb move especially when I'm using the card for the past 5-6 years but if someone apply a new one, he/she gets the interest free period for as long as they make full payment.

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 12:26 AM)
I totally mis-read the part about "Interest Free" period - didn't know it depends on our past 12 months payment also. I mean if I'm not a full pay master and still 18% per annum and doesn't change then I won't give a heck but now, it's finance charges since day one. Thanks BN and BNM, you are really the "Barang Naik" of Malaysia.


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We don't get a say nor decide on the restriction and troubles. Someone from BNM and BN did it for us smile.gif
Saying is easier than done. Of course if I can pay everything then I wouldn't even need a credit card in the first place or I'll just get AMEX or any other charge cards. Plus, we need to be full pay master for the next 12 months to re-enjoy the interest free period. It's such a dumb move especially when I'm using the card for the past 5-6 years but if someone apply a new one, he/she gets the interest free period for as long as they make full payment.
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perhaps u may consider changing ur card every year.

i use credit card for the convenience of least ATM withdrawal and points for shopping voucher, i pay my bill every 2-3weeks b4 the bill even reach me, it doesn't bother me at all coz i know y i use credit card, banks have never earned a single cent from me.

BNM did what is best to save ppl from being a credit card slave, just tht BNM doesn't know (may be they do) the best way is increase application income to at least 24K or black list bad payer from applying new cards.
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perhaps u may consider changing ur card every year.

i use credit card for the convenience of least ATM withdrawal and points for shopping voucher, i pay my bill every 2-3weeks b4 the bill even reach me, it doesn't bother me at all coz i know y i use credit card, banks have never earned a single cent from me.

BNM did what is best to save ppl from being a credit card slave, just tht BNM doesn't know (may be they do) the best way is increase application income to at least 24K or black list bad payer from applying new cards.
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Are you doing a cash advance withdrawal? Won't that be charged from the 1st day (interest or financial charge) with some withdrawal fee?
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When you change cards, there's a cooling off period. You cannot just cancel and re-apply.

It's good that the bank doesn't earn a single cent from you but reality is, not everyone is so rich sad.gif Many people buy things with easy payment, installment scheme, etc. There are more poor/average people than the rich around.

BNM uses this as a good excuse to say they are trying to save us. It's just like how BN says increasing the price of ciggarette trying to cut down smoking but the fact is, does it really help? biggrin.gif


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Are you doing a cash advance withdrawal? Won't that be charged from the 1st day (interest or financial charge) with some withdrawal fee?
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I think he deposit cash into the card so there would be no charges since the bank owes him money instead of him owing the bank.

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Are you doing a cash advance withdrawal? Won't that be charged from the 1st day (interest or financial charge) with some withdrawal fee?
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I wrote : convenience of LEAST ATM withdrawal. means i charge watver expenses i can to my credit card so tht when i go ATM is to pay CC outstanding, not withdraw cash. there is no such " cash advance " service in my banking dictionary, better forget about it at all.
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 27 2008, 12:42 AM)
I wrote : convenience of LEAST ATM withdrawal.  means i charge watver expenses i can to my credit card so tht when i go ATM is to pay CC outstanding, not withdraw cash. there is no such " cash advance " service in my banking dictionary, better forget about it at all.
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Thanks for the clarfication. I thought you were withdrawing cash using your credit card.

Well, I seldom hold cash in my wallet. Everything goes to my credit card. I settle the oustanding online (Maybank2u) as my primary CC is MBB.
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@clawhammer,
Am sure the implementation of this new rule is going to affect U since I've a feeling Ur one of the many who doesn't make full payment smile.gif .

As far as I'm concerned, as long as I am making full payment before the actual due date, I shouldn't have anything to worry about - this rule isn't going to affect me. I don't know how the rule's going to affect those who make minimum payment as I haven't carefully read the new terms & conditions; I'm one of them who makes my payment in full every month.

If U think the price of ciggies are too high, perhaps U should stop smoking; if U don't it's really UR fault and UR fault entirely! Also, ciggie prices in MY is considered low when compared to other foreign countries esp in the West.

Also, the general rule is NOT to rely on credit if U can't afford to make the payment for interest on credit card charges are v high - it's not smart to spend tomorrow's $ today; and I'm sure there are stuff that U purchase which wouldn't necessarily be considered a need! tongue.gif

@yewkhuay,
Now now - don't U dare to be a smart alec with me tongue.gif



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I didn't make minimum but I don't make full payment - that's the problem biggrin.gif It's alright, the solution now is to get a new card and cancel what I have for years.
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When you change cards, there's a cooling off period. You cannot just cancel and re-apply.

It's good that the bank doesn't earn a single cent from you but reality is, not everyone is so rich sad.gif Many people buy things with easy payment, installment scheme, etc. There are more poor/average people than the rich around.

BNM uses this as a good excuse to say they are trying to save us. It's just like how BN says increasing the price of ciggarette trying to cut down smoking but the fact is, does it really help? biggrin.gif


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I think he deposit cash into the card so there would be no charges since the bank owes him money instead of him owing the bank.
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too bad human CREATED easy payment to let ppl who can't really afford to get what they want so easily. smart consumer will use easi /flexi payment as a convenient tool, not a shopping tool.

BNM hasn't increased the cigarrette tax high enuf, and it's HUMAN's fault for smoking, not BNM's. same goes to flexi payment. the economy grow too fast with the use of credit card despite the fact we don't need it to be tht fast coz consumers r spending money tht they don't have. US subprime crisis is 1 good example.
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@clawhammer,
I suppose U could cancel the card and get new ones just so U haf a clean record. It's a good thing I always make my payment in full so like I said earlier this new rule when in effect wouldn't actually affect me. And, ALL banks will start implementing this beginning 1 June, 2008 not just Citibank.

@David83,
Yeah I'm 'cashless' too *grins* but so as long as Ur able to make full payment at the end of each month I see no reason for us not to utilise the Credit Card facilities. It also helps in accumulating reward points brows.gif

@yewkhuay,
Yes the total outstanding credit card debts is amazing and growing by the year. Am sure the rest of the nation's going to be following suit especially since we don't seem to learn from other people's mistake tongue.gif

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I didn't make minimum but I don't make full payment - that's the problem biggrin.gif It's alright, the solution now is to get a new card and cancel what I have for years.
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 27 2008, 12:50 AM)
too bad human CREATED easy payment to let ppl who can't really afford to get what they want so easily. smart consumer will use easi /flexi payment as a convenient tool, not a shopping tool.

BNM hasn't increased the cigarrette tax high enuf, and it's HUMAN's fault for smoking, not BNM's. same goes to flexi payment. the economy grow too fast with the use of credit card despite the fact we don't need it to be tht fast coz consumers r spending money tht they don't have. US subprime crisis is 1 good example.
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I believe Easy or Flexi Payment and 0% installament programme are very benefits to consumers if you use it smartly. You won't burden or burn your wallet in short term in order to get what you want. Just plan your purchase wisely and you won't be trapped by cunning banks.

By the way, MBB doesn't have Easy or Flexi Payment right? I know they have year long low interest of balance transfer programme which not that useful to me.
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 27 2008, 12:50 AM)
too bad human CREATED easy payment to let ppl who can't really afford to get what they want so easily. smart consumer will use easi /flexi payment as a convenient tool, not a shopping tool.

BNM hasn't increased the cigarrette tax high enuf, and it's HUMAN's fault for smoking, not BNM's. same goes to flexi payment. the economy grow too fast with the use of credit card despite the fact we don't need it to be tht fast coz consumers r spending money tht they don't have. US subprime crisis is 1 good example.
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If you want to be a politician and want votes, saying these are potentially disastrous. You sometimes have to see conditions of other people and just because we are in the financial position to do so, it doesn't mean other people are the same. Everyone wants to have a good living, not just you and me and many people tried their best but sometimes they still can't smile.gif Someone earning RM1,500 might want to get a furniture for his house but can't afford or get a PC for his kids but need an installment. It's always a case by case basis. I always feel thankful that I am given a good source of income but I feel sorry for those that doesn't. The world is never equal so I often put myself in other's shoe smile.gif

California state is a good example on how they curb and discourages smoking. Although dollar to dollar a pack of ciggarette there isn't very expensive compared to here but they make use of the money to do proper awareness, etc. Over here they are just making excuse to jack up price of things.


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it doesn't solve ur problem, and u r ur problem.
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It's not only my problem but many other people's problem. It doesn't mean when it's not your problem, the other 70% Malaysian population have no problems smile.gif

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I believe Easy or Flexi Payment and 0% installament programme are very benefits to consumers if you use it smartly. You won't burden or burn your wallet in short term in order to get what you want. Just plan your purchase wisely and you won't be trapped by cunning banks.

By the way, MBB doesn't have Easy or Flexi Payment right? I know they have year long low interest of balance transfer programme which not that useful to me.
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hardly see maybank participate in offering flexi payment, but i got hongleong, so i used tht for my laptop payment 2yrs back. always ask my fren y do they keep 4-5cards in wallet, the reply is : spare , in case..... then i started to think, do u really need 3-4 spares n in case..... u r worst case ...
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 27 2008, 12:51 AM)
@clawhammer,
I suppose U could cancel the card and get new ones just so U haf a clean record.  It's a good thing I always make my payment in full so like I said earlier this new rule when in effect wouldn't actually affect me.  And, ALL banks will start implementing this beginning 1 June, 2008 not just Citibank.
I don't owe them hell lot of money but I just don't settle fully biggrin.gif Yes, I guess that's the only option for now.
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hardly see maybank participate in offering flexi payment, but i got hongleong, so i used tht for my laptop payment 2yrs back. always ask my fren y do they keep 4-5cards in wallet, the reply is : spare , in case..... then i started to think, do u really need 3-4 spares n in case..... u r worst case ...
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Maybank is more famous with their Zero to Hero (Hero to Zero - cannot remember which word comes first) programme. Basically, it's a promotional name for their 0% installament programme.
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oh no.. with the new rules, i have to ask my hubby to settle the cc payment in FULL.. argh!!!
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post May 27 2008, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 27 2008, 12:58 AM)
If you want to be a politician and want votes, saying these are potentially disastrous. You sometimes have to see conditions of other people and just because we are in the financial position to do so, it doesn't mean other people are the same. Everyone wants to have a good living, not just you and me and many people tried their best but sometimes they still can't smile.gif Someone earning RM1,500 might want to get a furniture for his house but can't afford or get a PC for his kids but need an installment. It's always a case by case basis. I always feel thankful that I am given a good source of income but I feel sorry for those that doesn't. The world is never equal so I often put myself in other's shoe smile.gif

California state is a good example on how they curb and discourages smoking. Although dollar to dollar a pack of ciggarette there isn't very expensive compared to here but they make use of the money to do proper awareness, etc. Over here they are just making excuse to jack up price of things.


Added on May 27, 2008, 12:59 am

It's not only my problem but many other people's problem. It doesn't mean when it's not your problem, the other 70% Malaysian population have no problems smile.gif
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haha, i don expect politician point to be mentioned here.

look, all these Convenieces never exist during urs n my parents time and they made it through , poor but no BROKE. i was poor, family was poor, i never asked for a pc lesson nor pc when my peers r learning n graduating from microsoft 95, not even a video game or so. what the kids WANT doesn;t translate to what they NEED. and never compare with other ppl when it comes to luxurious / accessaries. I WANT but I can't , so I worked my way to be able to GET what I want later, example, my camera. I do not look down at ppl who r poor and unable now, I look down at ppl who know they can't afford YET go for it.

Californians are smarter than malaysians then. for malaysian to learn n to grow up , punishment is a better way since pampering doesn't work.
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post May 27 2008, 01:12 AM

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@clawhammer,
The other 70% of the Msians who finds this new rule a problem shouldn't be spending tomorrow's income yesterday. It's high time our government did something; it's a scenario of better late than never, right? tongue.gif

@yewkhuay,
I actually do have spare Credit Cards. In fact, I've so many credit cards it's time to cut some off!!! tongue.gif
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post May 27 2008, 01:12 AM

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I have to agree that Malaysians are sometimes hard to learn but doesn't mean BNM and BN can just implement all these rules killing me and the rest of the people further. Well, at least now I know there are many rich forummers around biggrin.gif


Added on May 27, 2008, 1:14 am
QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 27 2008, 01:12 AM)
@clawhammer,
The other 70% of the Msians who finds this new rule a problem shouldn't be spending tomorrow's income yesterday.  It's high time our government did something; it's a scenario of better late than never, right? tongue.gif
The economy is not good, when everyone stops spending the market goes slower and businesses starts to close down. Remember one time Mahathir ask us to spend more after the 1998 crisis? biggrin.gif I'm just trying to help the country (while giving myself excuse to spend more) laugh.gif

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