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post Nov 28 2015, 02:16 PM, updated 8y ago

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LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V54!

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Persona celebrating 54 threads of awesomeness!!

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!


TO ALL FELLOW LYNPPOC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:

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For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome to LYNPPC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update your name into the list.


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Recommended SC

1)Serdang SC - http://worldcarcare.com.my/WorldCarCare.html
Reasons: Best customer service in all reviews.

2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place.
Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE),
Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia
Tel: 03-80269333
Tel2: 03-80269167
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HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube

3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.

4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)

Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)

1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. all Klang Valley branches - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol
2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753

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post Nov 28 2015, 03:05 PM

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FIRST!
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post Nov 28 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Nov 28 2015, 03:05 PM)
FIRST!
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post Nov 28 2015, 03:28 PM

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Congrats on new tered. 54 also rhymes with Cantonese saying NO DIE, would mean as LONG LIVE! May all Persona owner be happy with their ride for long long time until sellkarbaiASX laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2015, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 28 2015, 03:28 PM)
Congrats on new tered. 54 also rhymes with Cantonese saying NO DIE, would mean as LONG LIVE! May all Persona owner be happy with their ride for long long time until sellkarbaiASX laugh.gif
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Nov 28 2015, 07:31 PM)
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https://www.facebook.com/zordaqtrg/posts/843747332409294

This might be the reason why. hmm.gif Time to buy white lithium grease.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Nov 28 2015, 08:06 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/zordaqtrg/posts/843747332409294

This might be the reason why. hmm.gif Time to buy white lithium grease.
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looks like a simple job.. hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2015, 10:05 PM

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Anyone here has experienced brake screeching sound and had solved it by changing to good brake pads? Please give some comments thank you. I really hate that brake screeching sound.


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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 28 2015, 10:05 PM)
Anyone here has experienced brake screeching sound and had solved it by changing to good brake pads? Please give some comments thank you. I really hate that brake screeching sound.
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My aeroback 1st day took car already screech until now yawn.gif Most probably going back to bosch, otherwise Bendyx GCT since ayam drive slow yawn.gif
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Recently in trying very hard to rectify this problem. I have googled about this problem, comments from various forums seem to conclude that this brake screeching is quite a normal thing for persona. Some does not get this prob.

Proposed solution is to try changing to better brake pads, adding some grease at the back of the brake pad. I will give feedbacks here after trying.
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 29 2015, 08:49 AM)
Recently in trying very hard to rectify this problem. I have googled about this problem, comments from various forums seem to conclude that this brake screeching is quite a normal thing for persona. Some does not get this prob.

Proposed solution is to try changing to better brake pads, adding some grease at the back of the brake pad.  I will give feedbacks here after trying.
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Same thing happened to my car front brake that also have screeching sound, especially after raining day. However it doesn't affect overall braking performance of the car. See when change brake pad next time change a better one.

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QUOTE(hyloy @ Nov 29 2015, 03:51 PM)
Same thing happened to my car front brake that also have screeching sound, especially after raining day. However it doesn't affect overall braking performance of the car. See when change brake pad next time change a better one.
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Are you still using stock Bosch brake pads? Yea they were noisy and dusty.

Just to update here, went to change both rear and front brake pads to a more reputable brand introduced by my friend. Problem solved, no more screeching at all, none. Hopefully it will last. Touch wood.

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I just sold my previous absorbers today for RM200 biggrin.gif. Time to budget for a head unit upgrade.
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post Nov 29 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 29 2015, 04:11 PM)
Are you still using stock Bosch brake pads? Yea they were noisy and dusty.

Just to update here, went to change both rear and front brake pads to a more reputable brand introduced by my friend. Problem solved, no more screeching at all, none. Hopefully it will last. Touch wood.
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What brand? Bendix CT?
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post Nov 29 2015, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 29 2015, 11:15 PM)
What brand? Bendix CT?
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Nope. Trestor metallic plus, sharing the same factory with Bendix. Intoduced by my dad's fren. Used for half a day drive, not a single high pitch screeching sound!
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Guys,

I'm just reaching 22k plus for my service...
The service advisor said will be a major service.
Cost about 500-700, cant really remember the exact amount.

Any service center recommend in Klang? I tried COSE, called million times and no one picked up, given up
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 29 2015, 11:21 PM)
Nope. Trestor metallic plus, sharing the same factory with Bendix. Intoduced by my dad's fren. Used for half a day drive, not a single high pitch screeching sound!
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I see, thanks. Hows the performance? better than stock?

btw I just checked the market value of the SV on ism.net.my because I need to renew my insurance soon....1 year old Persona that was RM45k new, market value now worth RM30k only laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2015, 09:57 AM)
I see, thanks. Hows the performance? better than stock?

btw I just checked the market value of the SV on ism.net.my because I need to renew my insurance soon....1 year old Persona that was RM45k new, market value now worth RM30k only  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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lol proton what you expect, at least the RV is better than Peugeot haha. If you wanna use this car for 10 years, don't need to care about RV lor.

I'm not sure about the performance, to me its like the same. Cuz I don't do hard braking, not really sure bout that. again, most importantly it doesn't screech. yeah.
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hi, refer to my attachment ,

when i drove my car on uneven road, it will made some noisy sound cry.gif sweat.gif

how much money gonna cost me if want to change those piece (and what should i call it as? ) ?

thanks


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QUOTE(dinnor @ Nov 30 2015, 02:12 PM)
hi, refer to my attachment ,

when i drove my car on uneven road, it will made some noisy sound  cry.gif  sweat.gif

how much money gonna cost me if want to change those piece (and what should i call it as? ) ?

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Absorber? front or back side? is it make sound like rusty metal spring?
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QUOTE(caesarx @ Nov 30 2015, 03:36 PM)
Absorber?  front or back side? is it make sound like rusty metal spring?
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i dont think it come from absorber, front left side only
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i think this is the caused the problem.. hmm.gif icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Nov 30 2015, 03:39 PM)
i dont think it come from absorber, front left side only
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i think this is the caused the problem.. hmm.gif  icon_question.gif
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that only cost a few 70-80 ringgit. if u can install by ur self

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shud i get a new fender+repaint or just cement+repaint?

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roughly how much?
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brakes scream a lot after rain and I think ceramic brake pads not so good when wet ya? braking power so so only..
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 1 2015, 11:59 AM)
brakes scream a lot after rain and I think ceramic brake pads not so good when wet ya? braking power so so only..
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mine scream when it not so hot. after driving a while the sound gone. ure using bendix?
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QUOTE(anep @ Dec 1 2015, 01:23 PM)
mine scream when it not so hot. after driving a while the sound gone. ure using bendix?
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my car was langgar from behind..and my car hit the car infront, but lucky the car infront no damage, only my front part kemek all hud lampu pecah already.. (happen during traffic jam at mrr2 )

made report police already.. the person langgar also made police report, same balai police, she admit she langgar us, police said will saman her but wait for 14 days for full report.. but the police said hard to claim the front part becasue i dont remember the car infront plat number... ( is it true?)

i call my insurance, the lady said sent my car to proton CoSE because the car still under warranty..

yesterday I send my car to Proton, the technical guy said it will take about a month at least to repair, can I claim compensation from the person langgar me?
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wanna to make sure what are the alternatives ATF that can be used for persona besides SP 3 ? I changed my ATF to Toyota Type-IV last month since the workshop say other also do the same for persona..But I'm not convinced, should I change back to SP 3 before the gb fail me ? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Nov 30 2015, 02:12 PM)
hi, refer to my attachment ,

when i drove my car on uneven road, it will made some noisy sound  cry.gif  sweat.gif

how much money gonna cost me if want to change those piece (and what should i call it as? ) ?

thanks
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Go to any spare parts shop and ask them for bumper plastic clips. They should be around RM2 or less per piece. Your wheel arch cover is loose and rubbing on the tyre when you're driving.

QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 1 2015, 05:13 PM)
wanna to make sure what are the alternatives ATF that can be used for persona besides SP 3 ? I changed my ATF to Toyota Type-IV last month since the workshop say other also do the same for persona..But I'm not convinced, should I change back to SP 3 before the gb fail me ? unsure.gif
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Not sure about T-IV, I would go back to SP3 as soon as possible if I were you, or use synthetic ATF which is compatible with gearboxes that use SP3.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 1 2015, 05:18 PM)
Go to any spare parts shop and ask them for bumper plastic clips. They should be around RM2 or less per piece. Your wheel arch cover is loose and rubbing on the tyre when you're driving.
Not sure about T-IV, I would go back to SP3 as soon as possible if I were you, or use synthetic ATF which is compatible with gearboxes that use SP3.
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haiz, wasted cash again sad.gif
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QUOTE(DBKL @ Dec 1 2015, 02:20 PM)
my car was langgar from behind..and my car hit the car infront, but lucky the car infront no damage, only my front part kemek all hud lampu pecah already.. (happen during traffic jam at mrr2 )

made report police already.. the person langgar also made police report, same balai police, she admit she langgar us, police said will saman her but wait for 14 days for full report.. but the police said hard to claim the front part becasue i dont remember the car infront plat number... ( is it true?)

i call my insurance, the lady said sent my car to proton CoSE because the car still under warranty..

yesterday I send my car to Proton, the technical guy said it will take about a month at least to repair, can I claim compensation from the person langgar me?
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send back to cose using back original parts, expect longer waiting period and not able to claim for front...
if got lobang those magat workshop can gaodim all for u, they use 2nd hand part for u (front and back), and mark-up abit claiming from 3rd party insurance. some more can finish in a week.
but workmanship don't expect too much, only thing is u no need to spend a single cent. smile.gif
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 1 2015, 05:29 PM)
haiz, wasted cash again  sad.gif
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usually outside workshop, they will tell u all atf same de, all engine oil same de.
engine oil cheap give u 20w50 mineral, medium ok sikit 10w40 semi, bagus 5w40 fully. brand can be any unheard brand, cap harimau also got.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 1 2015, 05:54 PM)
usually outside workshop, they will tell u all atf same de, all engine oil same de.
engine oil cheap give u 20w50 mineral, medium ok sikit 10w40 semi, bagus 5w40 fully. brand can be any unheard brand, cap harimau also got.
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then how? better go proton sc change back to the ori atf ? doh.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 1 2015, 05:52 PM)
send back to cose using back original parts, expect longer waiting period and not able to claim for front...
if got lobang those magat workshop can gaodim all for u, they use 2nd hand part for u (front and back), and mark-up abit claiming from 3rd party insurance. some more can finish in a week.
but workmanship don't expect too much, only thing is u no need to spend a single cent. smile.gif
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Its ok I have another car to use at this moment, no rush
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recently start the car at cold morning, the car will jerk slightly for a few seconds when idle..gear is on P.. any idea ?

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 1 2015, 11:59 AM)
brakes scream a lot after rain and I think ceramic brake pads not so good when wet ya? braking power so so only..
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What brand of brake pads r u using? Still stock pads?

My trestor metallic plus so far so good, ever since changing to it, when braking never once it screams, so dam quiet.
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 2 2015, 09:17 AM)
What brand of brake pads r u using? Still stock pads?

My trestor metallic plus so far so good, ever since changing to it, when braking never once it screams, so dam quiet.
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speedex, got it from zordaq subang....doesnt matter to me since not always screams for now blink.gif
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 2 2015, 10:23 AM)
speedex, got it from zordaq subang....doesnt matter to me since not always screams for now  blink.gif
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u usually go to zordaq bro? i want to change my timing belt there but wrong timing. there are a lot of cars need to be settle by them. ended up go to glenmarie to get the timing belt and ask local workshop to install it for me. then charge rm120 for labour. total was RM 4xx shocking.gif

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hi guys, just got my persona H-Line 2012 white colour from used car dealer this afternoon. So far the ride is good and comfortable. Seems like my car kena the infamous IAFM tak tak sound problem

I wanna know if I dont replace it, long term will have major problem or not? Any owner that experience IAFM module problem but never replace it? pls share share

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 2 2015, 07:58 PM)
hi guys, just got my persona H-Line 2012 white colour from used car dealer this afternoon. So far the ride is good and comfortable. Seems like my car kena the infamous IAFM tak tak sound problem

I wanna know if I dont replace it, long term will have major problem or not? Any owner that experience IAFM module problem but never replace it? pls share share
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Some say it affects performance, but I think it's mostly just noise unless the actuator for switching between the long/short intake is stuck. I heard that the rod may eventually break if it's left in its current state, so it's probably a good idea to get the thing serviced, I.e. Shorten the rod if I'm not mistaken.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 3 2015, 08:32 AM)
Some say it affects performance, but I think it's mostly just noise unless the actuator for switching between the long/short intake is stuck. I heard that the rod may eventually break if it's left in its current state, so it's probably a good idea to get the thing serviced, I.e. Shorten the rod if I'm not mistaken.
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Later I upload my video to utube den will post here cause I'm.not sure that sound is iafm or normal engine sound... It sounds like both to me lol..
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QUOTE(arayz @ Dec 2 2015, 07:03 PM)
u usually go to zordaq bro? i want to change my timing belt there but wrong timing. there are a lot of cars need to be settle by them. ended up go to glenmarie to get the timing belt and ask local workshop to install it for me. then charge rm120 for labour. total was RM 4xx shocking.gif
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zordaq only charged me 350 for timing belt and installation bro laugh.gif
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Guys, pls watch this video see issit iafm sound or just normal sound ?

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what could be the problem when there are sound when steer the steering?
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 3 2015, 10:05 AM)


Guys, pls watch this video see issit iafm sound or just normal sound ?
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mine have more tak tak sounds than urs, urs seems fine whistling.gif
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 3 2015, 02:16 PM)
mine have more tak tak sounds than urs, urs seems fine  whistling.gif
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Really? Thank God. But now I'm in workshop..jz nw reversing to the left den when I brake, got loud sound...damn..
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 3 2015, 03:16 PM)
Really? Thank God. But now I'm in workshop..jz nw reversing to the left den when I brake, got loud sound...damn..
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yea, noisy a bit but no decrease in power or so.. loud screeching sound?
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 3 2015, 03:32 PM)
yea, noisy a bit but no decrease in power or so.. loud screeching sound?
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Screeching sound is high pitch right ? It's not high pitch when k hear it..something like trumpet sound..duno how to describe properly but its really loud.. Now they helping me skim my disc brake...see how it goes
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 3 2015, 03:34 PM)
Screeching sound is high pitch right ? It's not high pitch when k hear it..something like trumpet sound..duno how to describe properly but its really loud.. Now they helping me skim my disc brake...see how it goes
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Some persona have this problem, not sure what's the issue there hmm.gif

mine always got high pitch screeching sound when apply break in low speed ( <20 km/h), can help me ask them what is the problem? perhaps is the wet brake pads (since always rain recently)? I'm using ceramic brake pads thanks bro notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 3 2015, 03:41 PM)
Some persona have this problem, not sure what's the issue there  hmm.gif

mine always got high pitch screeching sound when apply break in low speed ( <20 km/h), can help me ask them what is the problem? perhaps is the wet brake pads (since always rain recently)? I'm using ceramic brake pads thanks bro  notworthy.gif
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I did have this problem before this. Stock brake pads from Bosch also produces high pitch screeching when u apply brake at low speed. Lots of dust too.

3 weeks ago I changed my front pads to a brand named Musashi. These pads give me even more screeching sound. I think it's of low quality lah.

A week ago I felt angry, can't tahan the stupid screeching sound. I bought whole new sets of front and rear brake pads, Treator Metallic plus , which is introduced by my dad's car parts supplier. After changing to this, no single screeching at all. Again, not single screech!!! Dam good pads.
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is denso indrinium spark plugs proven to improve FC ? or just less maintanance needed since change every 100k
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 3 2015, 03:41 PM)
Some persona have this problem, not sure what's the issue there  hmm.gif

mine always got high pitch screeching sound when apply break in low speed ( <20 km/h), can help me ask them what is the problem? perhaps is the wet brake pads (since always rain recently)? I'm using ceramic brake pads thanks bro  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 2 2015, 07:58 PM)
hi guys, just got my persona H-Line 2012 white colour from used car dealer this afternoon. So far the ride is good and comfortable. Seems like my car kena the infamous IAFM tak tak sound problem

I wanna know if I dont replace it, long term will have major problem or not? Any owner that experience IAFM module problem but never replace it? pls share share
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will have high fuel consumption and car lost power.
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 3 2015, 07:43 PM)
will have high fuel consumption and car lost power.
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Based on my video, is the sound normal? or is it the sound of IAFM problem?
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Based on my video, is the sound normal? or is it the sound of IAFM problem?
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Dont think is iafm sound.

The sound quite normal
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 3 2015, 09:47 PM)
Dont think is iafm sound.

The sound quite normal
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I took some time to apply some synthetic lithium grease to the back of the brake pads for the front since the morning groaning noise was way too much after the insulation layer got removed. For now my brakes do not groan loudly anymore early in the morning, and even without warming up, when the car closes to a halt, the brakes hardly groan as well. If it stays like this, I'll probably get some proper brake grease to replace the current one since it's only rated for 200+ Deg C.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 01:46 PM)
I took some time to apply some synthetic lithium grease to the back of the brake pads for the front since the morning groaning noise was way too much after the insulation layer got removed. For now my brakes do not groan loudly anymore early in the morning, and even without warming up, when the car closes to a halt, the brakes hardly groan as well. If it stays like this, I'll probably get some proper brake grease to replace the current one since it's only rated for 200+ Deg C.
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groaning noise like ? mine always high pitch when apply brake in low speed.. with new brake pads, can apply lithium grease to the back of the brake pad as well? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 2 2015, 07:58 PM)
hi guys, just got my persona H-Line 2012 white colour from used car dealer this afternoon. So far the ride is good and comfortable. Seems like my car kena the infamous IAFM tak tak sound problem

I wanna know if I dont replace it, long term will have major problem or not? Any owner that experience IAFM module problem but never replace it? pls share share
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last time i had a chat with Proton mechanic in Glenmarie,they say the tak tak tak sound may came from 2 sources.

The IAFM and purge valve canister.

For me ,i will just replace the purge valve canister first.if your FC seem worrying from time to time.Change this.Much more cheaper and easy to replace.

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A canister purge valve is a solenoid valve controlled by the Power Train Control Module. The Power Train Control Module is a control unit that determines the ignition timing, fuel amounts and other parameters needed to keep the engine running.

Function
The canister purge valve serves as part of the emission control system in a car, and it measures the flow and amount of fuel vapor that is recycled into the combustion process via the charcoal canister, or fuel vapor storage device. Canister purge valves are also used in "leak tests," by allowing a vacuum to be created throughout the fuel storage system when the valve is closed, thus preventing outside air from entering the system.

Performance
Factors that can affect the performance of a canister purge valve include unclean valve conditions and valve blockage. Valve blockage is caused when an obstruction becomes lodged in the opening of the valve, causing a backup of the fuel and air mixture.


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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 4 2015, 01:51 PM)
groaning noise like ? mine always high pitch when apply brake in low speed.. with new brake pads, can apply lithium grease to the back of the brake pad as well?  unsure.gif
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Low frequency noise. Should not be a problem to apply a suitable layer of grease to the back of the pads.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 01:46 PM)
I took some time to apply some synthetic lithium grease to the back of the brake pads for the front since the morning groaning noise was way too much after the insulation layer got removed. For now my brakes do not groan loudly anymore early in the morning, and even without warming up, when the car closes to a halt, the brakes hardly groan as well. If it stays like this, I'll probably get some proper brake grease to replace the current one since it's only rated for 200+ Deg C.
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What type of noise is groan? Not screeching in high pitch ? Is it a low pitch voice ? Like wang wang wang.

Why did you remove the insulation layer ?
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What type of noise is groan? Not screeching in high pitch ? Is it a low pitch voice ? Like wang wang wang.

Why did you remove the insulation layer ?
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"Ngummmmmmm" sound. Does not hurt the ears but it's loud and annoying.

I told one of the foreman to re-adjust the insulation layer of the pads since they weren't seated properly, but he proceeded to tear them off on the pretext that it doesn't do anything and that it's just plastic.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 03:28 PM)
"Ngummmmmmm" sound. Does not hurt the ears but it's loud and annoying.

I told one of the foreman to re-adjust the insulation layer of the pads since they weren't seated properly, but he proceeded to tear them off on the pretext that it doesn't do anything and that it's just plastic.
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The insulation layer is very important. My previous brake pads does not have it... That's why the screeching.
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 4 2015, 02:34 PM)
last time i had a chat with Proton mechanic in Glenmarie,they say the tak tak tak sound may came from 2 sources.

The IAFM and purge valve canister.

For me ,i will just replace the purge valve canister first.if your FC seem worrying from time to time.Change this.Much more cheaper and easy to replace.

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A canister purge valve is a solenoid valve controlled by the Power Train Control Module. The Power Train Control Module is a control unit that determines the ignition timing, fuel amounts and other parameters needed to keep the engine running.

Function
The canister purge valve serves as part of the emission control system in a car, and it measures the flow and amount of fuel vapor that is recycled into the combustion process via the charcoal canister, or fuel vapor storage device. Canister purge valves are also used in "leak tests," by allowing a vacuum to be created throughout the fuel storage system when the valve is closed, thus preventing outside air from entering the system.

Performance
Factors that can affect the performance of a canister purge valve include unclean valve conditions and valve blockage. Valve blockage is caused when an obstruction becomes lodged in the opening of the valve, causing a backup of the fuel and air mixture.


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According to the computer, it said 8.1L/100km. Mine is auto. Is the FC normal for PE? City drive only

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 04:02 PM)
According to the computer, it said 8.1L/100km. Mine is auto. Is the FC normal for PE? City drive only
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normal for Persona.

but if u drive during hot afternoon ,and the FC seem worst and got tik tik tik sound,u need to replace the purge valve canister.

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 4 2015, 03:31 PM)
The insulation layer is very important. My previous brake pads does not have it... That's why the screeching.
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Yup, it is indeed. The plastic layer that comes on all the Bendix MKT pads which Bendix calls the insulation layer can be easily unseated when the brake calipers are put on since only the middle part of the layer is glued to the brake pads.
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One of the recent "fix" I did to my car was to wrap the plastic of the all the door strikers with a layer of electrical tape since they're all already broken. It seems to be a problem for many, if not all Personas, and for mine it was causing my door closing noise to be inconsistent (for the rear right door, it started closing with a loud plastic KOK noise recently), and worse still, preventing some of the doors from being shut properly at times.

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For now it seems that the doors are closing more consistently now, and the noise when the door closes/open is now consistent and less "metalic" sounding when the metal bit that latches onto the door striker unlocks.


Edit: Do not remove the plastic bit from the door striker unless you want to deal with a metallic noise whenever the door closes.

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 4 2015, 04:14 PM)
normal for Persona.

but if u drive during hot afternoon ,and the FC seem worst and got tik tik tik sound,u need to replace the purge valve canister.
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i get that FC cause ytd keep jam jam jam.. keep stuck in jam for long hours.. nope, i didnt hear any tik tik tik sound. shud be okay..hehe..
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Just notice my car tyre damn noisy on uneven road.. When I look at the tyre used by previous owner,

1) 2 biji is ecotopia or ecopia.. forgot exact name
2) 1 biji is bridgestone
3) 1 more biji I no see..

Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

and now i notice got some rat sound when braking low speed. probably due to cheap brake pads
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM)
Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

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Yes if your handbrake is down. If your handbrake is up it will not autolock when u close the door.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM)
Just notice my car tyre damn noisy on uneven road.. When I look at the tyre used by previous owner,

1) 2 biji is ecotopia or ecopia.. forgot exact name
2) 1 biji is bridgestone
3) 1 more biji I no see..

Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

and now i notice got some rat sound when braking low speed. probably due to cheap brake pads
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As long as your hand brake is not engaged and you are pressing the brake pedal, your door will auto lock if you open and close the door, or if you press the brake pedal when your hand brake is not engaged and the door is not locked.

Edit: Should be Ecopia, and it is from Bridgestone.

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 4 2015, 09:26 PM)
Yes if your handbrake is down. If your handbrake is up it will not autolock when u close the door.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 09:27 PM)
As long as your hand brake is not engaged and you are pressing the brake pedal, your door will auto lock if you open and close the door, or if you press the brake pedal when your hand brake is not engaged and the door is not locked.

Edit: Should be Ecopia, and it is from Bridgestone.
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oo..thats very good since crime is everywhere now.. some people after open door forgot lock back..
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Hi guys, long time never come back to this thread.
Just like to check, anyone uses Motul engine oil and where to get it?
Which brake pad is good? Time to change brake pad liao.

Thanks guys.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM)
Just notice my car tyre damn noisy on uneven road.. When I look at the tyre used by previous owner,

1) 2 biji is ecotopia or ecopia.. forgot exact name
2) 1 biji is bridgestone
3) 1 more biji I no see..

Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

and now i notice got some rat sound when braking low speed. probably due to cheap brake pads
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Some comfort or good nvh tyres : Continental CC5 , Toyo Neo energy , Dunlop D05. I myself using toyo, quiet and soft tyre I would say.

Brake rat? High pitched sound when slow braking ? Change to a better brake pad such as Bendix , not high performance type.
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 5 2015, 03:34 PM)
Some comfort or good nvh tyres : Continental CC5 , Toyo Neo energy , Dunlop D05. I myself using toyo, quiet and soft tyre I would say.

Brake rat? High pitched sound when slow braking ? Change to a better brake pad such as Bendix , not high performance type.
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Last time my car use continental cc5 also...

Not high pitch, jz abit of rat sound. Loud jz enuf to hear.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 5 2015, 03:36 PM)
Last time my car use continental cc5 also...

Not high pitch, jz abit of rat sound. Loud jz enuf to hear.
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Cc5 also noisy? Maybe it's time to change ?

Previously no rat sound? I thought rat sound is like screeching squealing when low speed braking... By the way the stock persona's brake pads is noisy too. I solved my braking sound problems after I changed all pads to Treator Metallic plus.
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 5 2015, 03:43 PM)
Cc5 also noisy? Maybe it's time to change ?

Previously no rat sound? I thought rat sound is like screeching squealing when low speed braking... By the way the stock persona's brake pads is noisy too. I solved my braking sound problems after I changed all pads to Treator Metallic plus.
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Nope. Cc5 in my previous car is quite. Currently using bridgestone ecopia
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Done changing my Persona SV stock brake servo to Evo 6 double layer brake servo,
however just slightly noticed the improvement of braking power.

or maybe need to change my brake pads to a new one too?
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Done changing my Persona SV stock brake servo to Evo 6 double layer brake servo,
however just slightly noticed the improvement of braking power.

or maybe need to change my brake pads to a new one too?
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Maybe it's the brake pads. It may also be a problem with the servo, or it's just that you have to press harder on the brake pedal once it becomes stiff according to others who also use the Evo servo. hmm.gif

For mine it's certainly a big step up from the previous servo. I think you're still not used to having to press hard on the brake pedal to get the braking power you want.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 6 2015, 05:54 PM)
Maybe it's the brake pads. It may also be a problem with the servo, or it's just that you have to press harder on the brake pedal once it becomes stiff according to others who also use the Evo servo. hmm.gif

For mine it's certainly a big step up from the previous servo. I think you're still not used to having to press hard on the brake pedal to get the braking power you want.
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or should try to adjust the brake pedal for fast response braking ?
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 6 2015, 06:09 PM)
or should try to adjust the brake pedal for fast response braking ?
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I'm not sure about this. You can try asking your mechanic to see what can be done, or maybe contact Zordaq Motorsport/Engineering for their opinion. What brake pads are you currently using? Did your mechanic bleed your brakes for you after the installation?

When I got the servo installed, it wasn't as good as I imagined it would be at first cause the car didn't seem to be stopping fast unless I pushed harder on the brake pedal once it becomes stiff. Now I think I'm used to the brake pedal feel since I have no problems so far with stopping my car fast.

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 6 2015, 05:34 PM)
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Done changing my Persona SV stock brake servo to Evo 6 double layer brake servo,
however just slightly noticed the improvement of braking power.

or maybe need to change my brake pads to a new one too?
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How much it cost? been thinking for it so long, stock brake power quite weak...
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 6 2015, 06:17 PM)
I'm not sure about this. You can try asking your mechanic to see what can be done, or maybe contact Zordaq Motorsport/Engineering for their opinion. What brake pads are you currently using? Did your mechanic bleed your brakes for you after the installation?

When I got the servo installed, it wasn't as good as I imagined it would be at first cause the car didn't seem to be stopping fast unless I pushed harder on the brake pedal once it becomes stiff. Now I think I'm used to the brake pedal feel since I have no problems so far with stopping my car fast.
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what do you mean by this>>>

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After installing the servo, your mechanic should remove any air introduced to the braking lines/system during installation by pumping fresh brake fluid through the system and out of all the bleeder valves located on each of the brake calipers. It's normally done by having one person pump the brake pedal, while the other person deals with the job of opening and closing the bleeder valve to let brake fluid out until there is no sign of air bubbles in the fluid that comes out.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 6 2015, 06:27 PM)
After installation the servo, your mechanic should remove any air introduced to the braking lines/system during installation by pumping fresh brake fluid through the system and out of all the bleeder valves located on each of the brake calipers. It's normally done by having one person pump the brake pedal, while the other person deals with the job of opening and closing the bleeder valve to let brake fluid out until there is no sign of air bubbles in the fluid that comes out.
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ok that's called as bleed the brakes..
they already did it .. nod.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 6 2015, 06:30 PM)
ok that's called as bleed the brakes..
they already did it ..  nod.gif
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Are you using original Proton brake pads? I heard that their braking power is lousy.
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Are you using original Proton brake pads? I heard that their braking power is lousy.
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yeah .. still using the stock brake pads,
and last time i sent my car to SC (around mid July 2015), they did mentioned that front brake pads only left 30%
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 6 2015, 06:38 PM)
yeah .. still using the stock brake pads,
and last time i sent my car to SC (around mid July 2015), they did mentioned that front brake pads only left 30%
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Then I think you should upgrade your brake pads. brows.gif
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Then I think you should upgrade your brake pads. brows.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 6 2015, 06:45 PM)
well, maybe in early 2016 try to change to those Bendix brake pads la plak ...  laugh.gif  nod.gif
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hmm.gif Maybe try some other brand or more expensive Bendix pads like the Bendix Ultimate. My Bendix MKT brake pads make a lot of groaning noise when they're cold and the car is almost at a halt even when they were still new.

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hye guys..do you all know where i can find the abs sensor wyre? Try several local shop in shah alam but unfortunately its unavailable...tq guys..

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How much it cost? been thinking for it so long, stock brake power quite weak...
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the double layer brake servo evo6 cost me around RM250,
need to topup for labor charges too
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 7 2015, 08:48 AM)
the double layer brake servo evo6 cost me around RM250,
need to topup for labor charges too
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By the way, my brake pedal no longer feels crazy stiff after a short travel. It seems softer now. Not sure if it's because the servo is working properly now, or something is wrong. Braking power still seems ok.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 6 2015, 05:34 PM)
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Done changing my Persona SV stock brake servo to Evo 6 double layer brake servo,
however just slightly noticed the improvement of braking power.

or maybe need to change my brake pads to a new one too?
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hmm.gif i don't think SE version can use this type... mine got few extra piping maybe the ABS and EBD.
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 7 2015, 10:28 AM)
hmm.gif  i don't think SE version can use this type... mine got few extra piping maybe the ABS and EBD.
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SE got different braking system meh? hmm.gif. There is a metal piece below the master cylinder of the Evo servo for ABS connection.
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guys, recently my car will suddenly slow down when in low gear(engine feels like thrown forward), is it the time to clean throttle body?
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anybody encounter slight drop of rpm when accelerating?

example like i drop 1 gear, rpm will shoot up and continue accelerating. after maybe 200-300rpm then it drops about 150rpm before going up again. probably during cruising speed like 90km/h onwards. didn't notice this when slower.

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Dec 7 2015, 12:19 PM)
anybody encounter slight drop of rpm when accelerating?

example like i drop 1 gear, rpm will shoot up and continue accelerating. after maybe 200-300rpm then it drops about 150rpm before going up again. probably during cruising speed like 90km/h onwards. didn't notice this when slower.

frust gila when wanna overtake dry.gif
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I think it's the stupid compressor.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
I think it's the stupid compressor.
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aircond compressor? it doesn't feel like it though but possible.

when the compressor kicks in, the power dip is more obvious than what i encountered. i wonder if it's the "toto" body that is dirty and causing this. 85k km and haven't cleaned it once laugh.gif . planning to do it at 100k.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 7 2015, 11:44 AM)
guys, recently my car will suddenly slow down when in low gear(engine feels like thrown forward), is it the time to clean throttle body?
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no harm cleaning, takes 5 - 10 mins job do yourself with a person playing the throttle and on-off ignition...

QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Dec 7 2015, 01:05 PM)
aircond compressor? it doesn't feel like it though but possible.

when the compressor kicks in, the power dip is more obvious than what i encountered. i wonder if it's the "toto" body that is dirty and causing this. 85k km and haven't cleaned it once laugh.gif . planning to do it at 100k.
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"toto" body, got toto lottery number craved inside kah? lol biggrin.gif
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no harm cleaning, takes 5 - 10 mins job do yourself with a person playing the throttle and on-off ignition...
"toto" body, got toto lottery number craved inside kah? lol  biggrin.gif
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Driving vios? How's it? God car
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duno how to clean it myself  unsure.gif
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http://serbamaneka.blogspot.my/2014/04/ber...ntrol-cara.html

need to act fast before it snap close after 8 second. so do for a few time instead.
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http://serbamaneka.blogspot.my/2014/04/ber...ntrol-cara.html

need to act fast before it snap close after 8 second. so do for a few time instead.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 7 2015, 02:13 PM)
no harm cleaning, takes 5 - 10 mins job do yourself with a person playing the throttle and on-off ignition...
"toto" body, got toto lottery number craved inside kah? lol  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 7 2015, 04:04 PM)
http://serbamaneka.blogspot.my/2014/04/ber...ntrol-cara.html

need to act fast before it snap close after 8 second. so do for a few time instead.
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use ThreeBond kinda spray would be better or not? did it for my old milo tin last time..then idling hancur because using carb laugh.gif
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maybe got number leh...see kena or not when buy only ma icon_idea.gif
use ThreeBond kinda spray would be better or not? did it for my old milo tin last time..then idling hancur because using carb laugh.gif
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Ok guys. Now when reverse brake no sound. But moving forward low speed brake got sound. Sound start noticeable at speed 60kmh below.

Most of the time is krok krok krok krok sound. Sometimes like got metal sound. Den got one is squeaking sound. Got a few tines is ngek ngek soubd. Issit brake pad problem ? Brake performance is okay jz the sound abit annoying. Already skim the disc btw

One more more thing is, sometime when I'm on uneven road, I can hear jit jit jit sound like rat lol

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Last time the sound I told u guys about when reversing is exactly same as what this guy described

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2125473/all

But I heard the sound from behind nt front
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 7 2015, 08:01 PM)
Last time the sound I told u guys about when reversing is exactly same as what this guy described

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2125473/all

But I heard the sound from behind nt front
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 7 2015, 08:22 PM)
Had this problem since the day I got my car. Got worse since the mechanic removed the brake insulation layer. Noise came back about two days after applying lithium grease on the back of the brake pads.
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Is the wooong sound very loud ? No solution at all?
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Is the wooong sound very loud ? No solution at all?
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With the insulation, it was loud but still acceptable. Without it, the sound is terribly loud and annoying. Luckily it's only when the brakes are not hot.

I think the only solution would be brake pads with proper shims to reduce noise and vibration etc.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 7 2015, 08:28 PM)
With the insulation, it was loud but still acceptable. Without it, the sound is terribly loud and annoying. Luckily it's only when the brakes are not hot.

I think the only solution would be brake pads with proper shims to reduce noise and vibration etc.
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Actually what is the actual cause of it? Will affect brake performance? I damn scare one day suddenly brake failed..
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Actually what is the actual cause of it? Will affect brake performance? I damn scare one day suddenly brake failed..
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Try Googling for sources of brake noise. If the problem lies with the lack of noise reduction material on the pads themselves, I suppose that there's no reason to worry about brake failure.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 7 2015, 08:33 PM)
Try Googling for sources of brake noise. If the problem lies with the lack of noise reduction material on the pads themselves, I suppose that there's no reason to worry about brake failure.
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Thanks. After googling, found that rust on the disc also can cause brake. Somehow my rear disc is very rusty while front discs not rusty at all lol..
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Thanks. After googling, found that rust on the disc also can cause brake. Somehow my rear disc is very rusty while front discs not rusty at all lol..
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hmm.gif Maybe it's because the rear brakes aren't as heavily used as the front pads. Get a bunch of people to sit in your car so that the EBD system will make the rear brakes work harder. laugh.gif

I'm currently searching for a proper brake lubricant, and it seems that it's very difficult to find them in Malaysia. grumble.gif. I'm going to pay a visit to Ace Hardware one day to see what they have to offer.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 7 2015, 09:12 PM)
hmm.gif Maybe it's because the rear brakes aren't as heavily used as the front pads. Get a bunch of people to sit in your car so that the EBD system will make the rear brakes work harder. laugh.gif

I'm currently searching for a proper brake lubricant, and it seems that it's very difficult to find them in Malaysia. grumble.gif. I'm going to pay a visit to Ace Hardware one day to see what they have to offer.
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Hahahahah. Maybe since 99% of the time I drive alone.. Shall take a photo of my PE to set new picture ~

How do u define a proper brake lubricant? how to see whether is good or bad brake lubricant? First time buy own car lol.. So many things duno..still learning.
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Hahahahah. Maybe since 99% of the time I drive alone.. Shall take a photo of my PE to set new picture ~

How do u define a proper brake lubricant? how to see whether is good or bad brake lubricant? First time buy own car lol.. So many things duno..still learning.
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Example:
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/product...ubricant-detail

Well... Proper brake lubricant/grease is what I'm looking for at this point, i.e. one that can resist high temperatures and would not be easily washed off. Good or bad I don't know. smile.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 7 2015, 09:19 PM)
Example:
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/product...ubricant-detail

Well... Proper brake lubricant/grease is what I'm looking for at this point, i.e. one that can resist high temperatures and would not be easily washed off. Good or bad I don't know. smile.gif
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I wonder how much it will cost.. But then if reli can silent brake noise, how much also worth it hehe. Do update us once u bought urs and the result from using it

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Hi guys, want to ask about the car steering wheel vibrate when idle, isit because of steering column ? steering rack or engine mounting. Car mileage 65k, 4 years 11 month. When drive no sound, just idle there's the vibration and sound.
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QUOTE(yeewensmc @ Dec 7 2015, 10:00 PM)
Hi guys, want to ask about the car steering wheel vibrate when idle, isit because of steering column ? steering rack or engine mounting. Car mileage 65k, 4 years 11 month. When drive no sound, just idle there's the vibration and sound.
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I tot is normal to vibrate when idle?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 7 2015, 10:44 PM)
which 1 nicer to drive? honest review pls. blush.gif
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Persona lo. Steering much lighter. Power better. But I like waja interior more than persona. Persona interior abit plain..

Power wise: persona > waja

FC wise: persona RM 30 @ 1.95/L can go 288km according to trip computer. Waja RM 30 @ 1.95/L can go 130-140km. Persona > waja

Exterior design: no doubt persona > waja
Interior design: waja > persona for me

Handling: persona > waja


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Persona lo. Steering much lighter. Power better. But I like waja interior more than persona. Persona interior abit plain..

Power wise: persona > waja

FC wise: persona RM 30 @ 1.95/L can go 288km according to trip computer. Waja RM 30 @ 1.95/L can go 130-140km. Persona > waja

Exterior design: no doubt persona > waja
Interior design: waja > persona for me

Handling: persona > waja
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wah, waja mitsubishi engine so kuat minyak? i thought mitsubishi engine fuel saving coz low rpm torque better...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 7 2015, 10:55 PM)
wah, waja mitsubishi engine so kuat minyak? i thought mitsubishi engine fuel saving coz low rpm torque better...
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No lo. Damn makan minyak 1.. Sometimes if really bad, RM 30 can go 110-120only... But then alot ppl say that waja batch with 4g18 engine is the most reliable waja ever. This waja already clocked 210k, 13 years old and still no problem lol

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 6 2015, 06:52 PM)
hmm.gif Maybe try some other brand or more expensive Bendix pads like the Bendix Ultimate. My Bendix MKT brake pads make a lot of groaning noise when they're cold and the car is almost at a halt even when they were still new.
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Bendix Ultimate only available for front disc brake , right?
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Bendix Ultimate only available for front disc brake , right?
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Not sure. Can try enquiring. Why don't you consider other pads like Rapid stop or EBC brake pads? A forumer called Kent Goh @ xd auto parts should be selling them I think.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 8 2015, 07:54 AM)
Not sure. Can try enquiring. Why don't you consider other pads like Rapid stop or EBC brake pads? A forumer called Kent Goh @ xd auto parts should be selling them I think.
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ahahaha laugh.gif i'm referring to your previously post did mention about those Bendix Ultimate is good for brake performance..
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ahahaha  laugh.gif  i'm referring to your previously post did mention about those Bendix Ultimate is good for brake performance..
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Supposed to be quite good. hmm.gif Based on what I found through searching, no one complains about noise, just brake dust. The other two pads I suggested are around the same price as the Ultimate.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 8 2015, 08:16 AM)
Supposed to be quite good. hmm.gif Based on what I found through searching, no one complains about noise, just brake dust. The other two pads I suggested are around the same price as the Ultimate.
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but makan disc rotor or not? last time heard the higher range of bendix (not sure if it's ultimate) will makan disc rotor faster.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 7 2015, 07:49 PM)
Ok guys. Now when reverse brake no sound. But moving forward low speed brake got sound. Sound start noticeable at speed 60kmh below.

Most of the time is krok krok krok krok sound. Sometimes like got metal sound. Den got one is squeaking sound. Got a few tines is ngek ngek soubd. Issit brake pad problem ? Brake performance is okay jz the sound abit annoying. Already skim the disc btw

One more more thing is, sometime when I'm on uneven road, I can hear jit jit jit sound like rat lol
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so many types of sounds

sounds like your car is having a good time..if you know what i mean brows.gif brows.gif

the jit jit jit rat sound is caused by metal parts rubbing with each other. in other words, something is loose. could be the seat bolts if u take it out before. happened to me last time after install sound system. Howie forgot to fully tighten 1 bolt of the passenger front seat laugh.gif. but now got that sound again, lazy to find the rat

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gonna go back to zordaq to change to brembo brake pad, cause the speedex he give me make so loud sound when brake at low speed doh.gif, duno need to go back how many times this month..btw the boss is friendly enough to handle my problem after office hour...
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I tot is normal to vibrate when idle?
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Bought new that time no such issue, some foreman told me is steering column pr steering rack, some say is engine mounting.
Really doubt which is the correct one.

Any idea guys ?
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 8 2015, 10:22 AM)
gonna go back to zordaq to change to brembo brake pad, cause the speedex he give me make so loud sound when brake at low speed doh.gif, duno need to go back how many times this month..btw the boss is friendly enough to handle my problem after office hour...
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Did you bed the brake pads properly? If they are new and they are squealing occasionally you might just need to bed them by going beyond 80KM/H and applying the brakes moderately hard until the vehicle almost stops, then repeat the cycle a few more times.

QUOTE(yeewensmc @ Dec 8 2015, 10:29 AM)
Bought new that time no such issue, some foreman told me is steering column pr steering rack, some say is engine mounting.
Really doubt which is the correct one.

Any idea guys ?
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I suspect it's just the mountings. Probably still won't be as vibration free as when the car was new due to engine wear and tear but it should eliminate most of it.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 8 2015, 10:51 AM)
Did you bed the brake pads properly? If they are new and they are squealing occasionally you might just need to bed them by going beyond 80KM/H and applying the brakes moderately hard until the vehicle almost stops, then repeat the cycle a few more times.
I suspect it's just the mountings. Probably still won't be as vibration free as when the car was new due to engine eraser and tear but it should eliminate most of it.
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no chance for me to do that since kampung road sad.gif is it necessary? is been 2 weeks now I use the car to work and back only..
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 8 2015, 10:53 AM)
no chance for me to do that since kampung road  sad.gif  is it necessary? is been 2 weeks now I use the car to work and back only..
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hmm.gif I think so. Bring your car out at night to a highway to do it la. biggrin.gif
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Look at those rust on rear disc.. 1 of the disc got the word gen 2 somemore =.=. Normal is it to have the wording?

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Look at those rust on rear disc.. 1 of the disc got the word gen 2 somemore =.=. Normal is it to have the wording?

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I think that there's something wrong with your rear brake pads.
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I think that there's something wrong with your rear brake pads.
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Is it ? How do u tell? Issit from the pattern of the rust? Last time my waja use brake pad that can sustain high temperature, the rust is all over, does nt look like this
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Look at those rust on rear disc.. 1 of the disc got the word gen 2 somemore =.=. Normal is it to have the wording?

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your rear brake pads are not even. laugh.gif

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your rear brake pads are not even. laugh.gif
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Is it? How come like that 1? shocking.gif
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Is it? How come like that 1? shocking.gif
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because your rear disc is not even at first place
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QUOTE(yeewensmc @ Dec 7 2015, 10:00 PM)
Hi guys, want to ask about the car steering wheel vibrate when idle, isit because of steering column ? steering rack or engine mounting. Car mileage 65k, 4 years 11 month. When drive no sound, just idle there's the vibration and sound.
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probably engine mounting aged already.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 8 2015, 01:59 PM)
Is it? How come like that 1? shocking.gif
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this problem normally due to brake pad doesnt fully attach to the rotor. Half of the brake pad surface dint "touch" the rotor, so the rust part still there.
You can try remove the brake pad. Use sand paper "gosok" sikit. If the rotor surface not good also need to skim
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Recently I just changed my front anti roll bar bush at shop.
Cornering now is good , lotus handling is back. before changed the bush, during cornering you can slightly feel that the car have a bit shake, feel also not sharp.

After that , I self changing the rear anti roll bar bush and front absorber link.
Now the cornering power better, back to top performance when getting the car, even using lousy tyre haha
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 07:05 PM)
Recently I just changed my front anti roll bar bush at shop.
Cornering now is good , lotus handling is back. before changed the bush, during cornering you can slightly feel that the car have a bit shake, feel also not sharp.

After that , I self changing the rear anti roll bar bush and front absorber link.
Now the cornering power better, back to top performance when getting the car, even using lousy tyre haha
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How difficult is it to replace the front ARB bush?
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How difficult is it to replace the front ARB bush?
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Quite difficult. Need foremen to do it. Thats y I dint change it myself.
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 07:03 PM)
this problem normally due to brake pad doesnt fully attach to the rotor. Half of the brake pad surface dint "touch" the rotor, so the rust part still there.
You can try remove the brake pad. Use sand paper "gosok" sikit. If the rotor surface not good also need to skim
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that day already did skimming
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 8 2015, 08:13 PM)
that day already did skimming
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your brake pad surface is smooth ?
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 08:37 PM)
your brake pad surface is smooth ?
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i duno oh.. i sent back for warranty cause i told them braking got sound.. but they failed to detect cause of sound, so they jz skim the disc.. they say brake pad in good condition
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Hi, I have a PE H-line. I changed the front absorber links yesterday and now it is making some weird noise. whenever I turn right on uneven road at low speed, i can hear a 'klok' sound from the right side front wheel. then i turn the steering back to neutral, another 'klok' sound. it wasn't making any noise before i change the links. anyone knows what is the cause? could it be improper installation of the links?
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QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 8 2015, 08:55 PM)
Hi, I have a PE H-line. I changed the front absorber links yesterday and now it is making some weird noise. whenever I turn right on uneven road at low speed, i can hear a 'klok' sound from the right side front wheel. then i turn the steering back to neutral, another 'klok' sound. it wasn't making any noise before i change the links. anyone knows what is the cause? could it be improper installation of the links?
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Im also PE H Line, I also just change the absorber link.
I dont have the problems. (i Changed it myself )
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Im also PE H Line, I also just change the absorber link.
I dont have the problems. (i Changed it myself )
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What was the reason for the change? Worn out? Noise?
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What was the reason for the change? Worn out? Noise?
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Change absorber link doesnt open much things.

Only tire and the links.

But sound source can be any parts.


Mine also got some sound when on uneven road. Sometimes have it, sometimes dont. Until now still cant source thes sound from where rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 09:11 PM)
Change absorber link doesnt open much things.

Only tire and the links.

But sound source can be any parts.
Mine also got some sound when on uneven road. Sometimes have it, sometimes dont. Until now still cant source thes sound from where  rclxub.gif
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before i change the absorber links, got a lot of knocking noises from the front whenever i go through bumps and potholes. after change, not completely noiseless but generally it is quieter, but then new noise appeared!
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QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 8 2015, 09:18 PM)
before i change the absorber links, got a lot of knocking noises from the front whenever i go through bumps and potholes. after change, not completely noiseless but generally it is quieter, but then new noise appeared!
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Ya cuz not changing ery part.
All the suspension system is wear and tear. Need to change when lifespan end.
Else, poor handling and noise.
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 09:21 PM)
Ya cuz not changing ery part.
All the suspension system is wear and tear. Need to change when lifespan end.
Else, poor handling and noise.
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PE's handling is sooooo good that I can't resist to take on corners. but then all these noises are just endless~
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 2 2015, 07:58 PM)
hi guys, just got my persona H-Line 2012 white colour from used car dealer this afternoon.
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Just wondering how much you paid for it... I've been thinking about getting one for awhile but always have something else to pay for first.
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QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 8 2015, 09:24 PM)
PE's handling is sooooo good that I can't resist to take on corners. but then all these noises are just endless~
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have you change you front anti roll bar bush?
if the bush faulty the anti roll bar will moving , will have noise on uneven road. and during cornering the handling is poor

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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Dec 8 2015, 10:53 PM)
Just wondering how much you paid for it... I've been thinking about getting one for awhile but always have something else to pay for first.
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I paid around RM 700 (HP life insurance from PBB (RM 202.xx + insurance loading 10% + RM 300 booking fee)

Car price: RM 30,800
Insurance: RM 1.3K (insured RM 33K + loading 10% cause I'm considered high risk)
Processing fee: RM 1.1K (before rebate: 2k++)
Road tax: RM 90.00

After rebate + trade in my waja (RM 4.5K) = RM 28,500

PBB HP loan = RM 28,500
Interest rate = 4.1% @ 8 years
Monthly = RM 395.00

If don't want pay anything, maybe can ask dealer to do full loan for u. See can or not...

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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 10:58 PM)
have you change you front anti roll bar bush?
if the bush faulty the anti roll bar will moving , will have noise on uneven road. and during cornering the handling is poor
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i asked the foreman to check the anti roll bar bushes before i changed the absorber links. he shaked the anti roll bar and it didn't even moved a bit, so he said the bushes are still good.
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QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 8 2015, 11:13 PM)
i asked the foreman to check the anti roll bar bushes before i changed the absorber links. he shaked the anti roll bar and it didn't even moved a bit, so he said the bushes are still good.
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Hand shake hard to move the anti roll bar.
Mine use hand also cant shake it. Only when the bush uninstall. Then I can see the diff.
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anyone change the HU in their persona? mind share pic?
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 8 2015, 10:58 PM)
I paid around RM 700 (HP life insurance from PBB (RM 202.xx + insurance loading 10% + RM 300 booking fee)

Car price: RM 30,800
Insurance: RM 1.3K (insured RM 33K + loading 10% cause I'm considered high risk)
Processing fee: RM 1.1K (before rebate: 2k++)
Road tax: RM 90.00

After rebate + trade in my waja (RM 4.5K) = RM 28,500

PBB HP loan = RM 28,500
Interest rate =  4.1% @ 8 years
Monthly = RM 395.00

If don't want pay anything, maybe can ask dealer to do full loan for u. See can or not...
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Thanks... just wanted to get a rough idea of OTR price vs what I see on carlist. Looking at a cash buy so hopefully some discount.
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QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 8 2015, 09:24 PM)
PE's handling is sooooo good that I can't resist to take on corners. but then all these noises are just endless~
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Campro IAFM nice spot is at 2.9K RPM at highest gear ratio.That time the engine feel so nice.Most probably at 108km/h.Higher than that... laugh.gif roaring already.

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my car also have klok klok sound when turning corner at uneven road or bumpy road, only when turn right...common problem of persona but still duno where is the problem laugh.gif
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 8 2015, 07:05 PM)
Recently I just changed my front anti roll bar bush at shop.
Cornering now is good , lotus handling is back. before changed the bush, during cornering you can slightly feel that the car have a bit shake, feel also not sharp.

After that , I self changing the rear anti roll bar bush and front absorber link.
Now the cornering power better, back to top performance when getting the car, even using lousy tyre haha
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what is the function of anti roll bar? give Persona more stable and improve cornering a lot or just slightly better compare to stock Persona SV? thanks icon_question.gif hmm.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 11:05 AM)
what is the function of anti roll bar? give Persona more stable and improve cornering a lot or just slightly better compare to stock Persona SV? thanks  icon_question.gif  hmm.gif  brows.gif
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The Persona comes with a front and rear ARB by default.

http://speed.academy/how-swaybars-work/

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 11:07 AM)
The Persona comes with a front and rear ARB by default.

http://speed.academy/how-swaybars-work/
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so my persona sv should have it right?
which one of it?

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 11:12 AM)
so my persona sv should have it right?
which one of it?

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 11:05 AM)
what is the function of anti roll bar? give Persona more stable and improve cornering a lot or just slightly better compare to stock Persona SV? thanks  icon_question.gif  hmm.gif  brows.gif
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Stock sv also got anti roll bar, front or rear also have it.

Persona by default will have it.
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My car front is original anti roll bar. Even though is ori but still have it function there.

Rear I've changed to 16mm Ultra racing anti roll bar. Cornering better than original .


Both of the original anti roll bar quite "soft" if u put some strength on it, it can bend a bit. But UR totally no strength to bend it. Damn stiff.
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 9 2015, 11:39 AM)
My car front is original anti roll bar. Even though is ori but still have it function there.

Rear I've changed to 16mm Ultra racing anti roll bar. Cornering better than original .
Both of the original anti roll bar quite "soft" if u put some strength on it, it can bend a bit. But UR totally no strength to bend it. Damn stiff.
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after double servo brake, than this look like my ongoing plan
look like want to change it to better 1.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 11:43 AM)
after double servo brake, than this look like my ongoing plan
look like want to change it to better 1.
hahahaha  laugh.gif
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I got a rear 16mm too. To be honest I don't feel much difference.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 12:32 PM)
I got a rear 16mm too. To be honest I don't feel much difference.
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what others upgrade to add ?
1.change front brake pad to better brand(Bendix ultimate in planning)
2.?
3.?
4.tyre brows.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 12:32 PM)
I got a rear 16mm too. To be honest I don't feel much difference.
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so what is the function of stabilizer bar?

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 12:36 PM)
what others upgrade to add ?
1.change front brake pad to better brand(Bendix ultimate in planning)
2.?
3.?
4.tyre  brows.gif  hmm.gif
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1. Better brake pads
2. Better tyres

Then move on to whatever you want.

QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 12:42 PM)
so what is the function of stabilizer bar?
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I mean not much difference from the original rear anti roll bar. For my car the larger anti roll bar also seems to have introduced some metal flex/creak noise which occurs from time to time when turning.
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how much is it to change the front anti roll bar bushes including labor cost? my front ARB is still stock and rear i change to UR ARB 16mm too!

for me, i feel that the thicker rear ARB makes the front end slightly easier to turn during corner, reduced understeer?
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QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 9 2015, 03:07 PM)
how much is it to change the front anti roll bar bushes including labor cost? my front ARB is still stock and rear i change to UR ARB 16mm too!

for me, i feel that the thicker rear ARB makes the front end slightly easier to turn during corner, reduced understeer?
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Yup.. Supposed to work that way. It looks like we can have access to the bushes through the wheel arch area but I didn't really look closely.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 01:14 PM)
1. Better brake pads
2. Better tyres

Then move on to whatever you want.

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Upgrading car's performance can be put into three broad categories. Engine performance, handling, and stopping power. If one of them raises significantly, you will need the others to be upgraded as well to balance out the car.


brows.gif hmm.gif what is your opinions regarding quote above ? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 01:14 PM)
1. Better brake pads
2. Better tyres

Then move on to whatever you want.
I mean not much difference from the original rear anti roll bar. For my car the larger anti roll bar also seems to have introduced some metal flex/creak noise which occurs from time to time when turning.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 11:43 AM)
after double servo brake, than this look like my ongoing plan
look like want to change it to better 1.
hahahaha  laugh.gif
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Ya. original damn lousy. scary
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 12:32 PM)
I got a rear 16mm too. To be honest I don't feel much difference.
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Ultra racing too?
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 9 2015, 03:48 PM)
Ya. original damn lousy. scary
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surprisingly stock H-Line brake servo is not bad..no need to change double layer = save money icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 9 2015, 01:14 PM)
1. Better brake pads
2. Better tyres

Then move on to whatever you want.
I mean not much difference from the original rear anti roll bar. For my car the larger anti roll bar also seems to have introduced some metal flex/creak noise which occurs from time to time when turning.
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Changing larger pr stiffer anti roll bar, will help on cornering performance.
But in the other hand, because of the anti roll bar stiffer now, may lead to some annoying sound. Mine when hit some hole, not so big with slow speed, will have loud kok sound . But check , it was working fine.

QUOTE(kirokiroshin @ Dec 9 2015, 03:07 PM)
how much is it to change the front anti roll bar bushes including labor cost? my front ARB is still stock and rear i change to UR ARB 16mm too!

for me, i feel that the thicker rear ARB makes the front end slightly easier to turn during corner, reduced understeer?
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I changed mine rm 90 include installation , local bush.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 9 2015, 03:51 PM)
surprisingly stock H-Line brake servo is not bad..no need to change double layer = save money  icon_idea.gif
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Check with few of my fren, all of them also high line. all of them have servo failure.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 9 2015, 03:51 PM)
surprisingly stock H-Line brake servo is not bad..no need to change double layer = save money  icon_idea.gif
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H-Line brake servo = SV brake servo ?
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Check with few of my fren, all of them also high line. all of them have servo failure.
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then I'm the lucky one..?
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 04:06 PM)
H-Line brake servo = SV brake servo ?
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nope..SV servo similar to saga..weaker
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 9 2015, 04:15 PM)
nope..SV servo similar to saga..weaker
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nevermind, already done changing to double layer brake servo. brows.gif
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Ultra racing too?
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Yup. Recently switched to silicone bushes since the new rubber bush I bought last time split after a while.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 9 2015, 04:06 PM)
H-Line brake servo = SV brake servo ?
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I think is the same
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sorry double post

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hi regarding Bendix Ultimate , should i trust this online seller-->

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

or u got another suggestion for brake pads?

thanks..
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Brake servo and vaccum servo same or nt ? If the part failed, will it cause the brake to fail as well or we only need step more on the brake in order to stop ?
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Brake servo and vaccum servo same or nt ? If the part failed, will it cause the brake to fail as well or we only need step more on the brake in order to stop ?
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If it failed. U will no brake at all, even u step harder
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Try Project-MU brake pad laugh.gif
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 10 2015, 09:10 AM)
If it failed. U will no brake at all, even u step harder
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Ok.now I'm scared. What are the symptoms ? How to know if the servo is starting to have problem ?
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i went to SC this morning for warranty claim for absorber mounting unit (right side)

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however, ' tak tak' tak ' sound still appear after they finish change it.. usually happen/the sound appear when i'm take a corner or selekoh, icon_question.gif cry.gif

what is the real problem?



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Any recommendation sport rim for persona?
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so i just bought a GK5 beside my persona.the jazz lacking the handling of what persona has despite i already lowered the GK5.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 10 2015, 12:09 PM)
i went to SC this morning for warranty claim for absorber mounting unit (right side)

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however, ' tak tak' tak ' sound still appear after they finish change it.. usually happen/the sound appear when i'm take a corner or selekoh,  icon_question.gif  cry.gif

what is the real problem?
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how much is the mounting?
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 10 2015, 04:09 PM)
how much is the mounting?
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however, the problem still appear.. cry.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 10 2015, 10:09 AM)
Ok.now I'm scared. What are the symptoms ? How to know if the servo is starting to have problem ?
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Ok.now I'm scared. What are the symptoms ? How to know if the servo is starting to have problem ?
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brake starting not makan
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 10 2015, 12:09 PM)
i went to SC this morning for warranty claim for absorber mounting unit (right side)

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however, ' tak tak' tak ' sound still appear after they finish change it.. usually happen/the sound appear when i'm take a corner or selekoh,  icon_question.gif  cry.gif

what is the real problem?
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mayb yr drive shaft koyak
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 10 2015, 06:37 PM)
sometime the brake high sometimes low (pedal)
brake starting not makan
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Ok mine still fine at the moment lol
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Replaced my left front door lock actuator today. Supposed to be easy but the three screws that secure the door latch have what I believe to be blue locktite on them, so they're a PITA to remove even with the right screw driver. Can't squeeze the actuator back into its position either without removing the door latch since there isn't enough space to manoeuvre about. You need to twist and lock the actuator into position.

Also just realised that the music in the cabin leaks out quite a fair bit for my car at over volume 15. sweat.gif Not sure if it's originally like that, or is a result of replacing the door and window seals. At volume 20+ anyone standing near front doors can hear the music very clearly. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 10 2015, 06:38 PM)
mayb yr drive shaft koyak
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i dont know, after SC change it with the new one, they said already settle the problem,however the tak tak tak sound still can be heard .. cry.gif sweat.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 10 2015, 09:23 PM)
i dont know, after SC change it with the new one, they said already settle the problem,however the tak tak tak sound still can be heard ..  cry.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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These are the sound from my front wheel when turning steering... this happened after i did wheel bearing changed.

the sound like ngek ngek ngek.. sometime it will have knock sound when doing parking

might need to use earphone and turn up the volume.




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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Dec 11 2015, 08:25 AM)
These are the sound from my front wheel when turning steering... this happened after i did wheel bearing changed.

the sound like ngek ngek ngek.. sometime it  will have knock sound when doing parking

might need to use earphone and turn up the volume.



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Sounds like a creaking boat. sweat.gif Bring it back to the workshop for further diagnosis I guess. Last time when my father replaced his Perdana's drive shaft there was this zinggg noise when he accelerates. Couldn't figure out where it was from... until the wheel came off with the drive shaft or something like that. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Dec 11 2015, 08:25 AM)
These are the sound from my front wheel when turning steering... this happened after i did wheel bearing changed.

the sound like ngek ngek ngek.. sometime it  will have knock sound when doing parking

might need to use earphone and turn up the volume.



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fuhh the creaking sound shocking.gif shakehead.gif

however, my SV noisy sound will appear during low speed cornering, or when turn right or left at the junction...
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I want to ask.. The persona wording at bhind of the bonet is fall off and gone. anyone know where can i find it??
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I want to ask.. The persona wording at bhind of the bonet is fall off and gone. anyone know where can i find it??
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ask from sc will do, i have taken off because it is ugly laugh.gif
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ask from sc will do, i have taken off because it is ugly  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 11 2015, 02:20 PM)
fuhh the creaking sound  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif

however, my SV noisy sound will appear during low speed cornering, or when turn right or left at the junction...
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Have you just your anti roll bar bush before?
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What is sc??? sorry i dont understand  cry.gif
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Have you just your anti roll bar bush before?
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not,never do anything with anti roll bar bush yet..
well, do you suspect that the source of my problem?
thanks
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 11 2015, 06:43 PM)
not,never do anything with anti roll bar bush yet..
well, do you suspect that the source of my problem?
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I suspect check your power steering rack and the bush
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anyone here ever put mountain bike in the bonnet?
issit fit?
mine baseline, rear seat cannot fold
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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Dec 12 2015, 09:42 AM)
guys
anyone here ever put mountain bike in the bonnet?
issit fit?
mine baseline, rear seat cannot fold
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I tried before. Small-medium size cannot fit even after taking the front wheel off.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 12 2015, 09:59 AM)
I tried before. Small-medium size cannot fit even after taking the front wheel off.
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that sad sad.gif
what if i put on rear seat area?

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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Dec 12 2015, 10:15 AM)
that sad sad.gif
what if i put on rear seat area?
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Tried putting it in the back but without taking the front wheel off. It dirtied all the seats, and kinda scratched my door panels in the process.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 12 2015, 10:20 AM)
Tried putting it in the back but without taking the front wheel off. It dirtied all the seats, and kinda scratched my door panels in the process.
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oh. so it fits?
thank god rclxms.gif
of course i will take off front wheel 1st
because my bike is new, supposed to take today at shop

and hopefully can put two sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Dec 12 2015, 10:23 AM)
oh. so it fits?
thank god rclxms.gif
of course i will take off front wheel 1st
because my bike is new, supposed to take today at shop

and hopefully can put two sweat.gif
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I'm not sure if my small medium definition is the same as yours. laugh.gif But anyway, I think if you remove both front and back wheels of the bicycle, you can probably fit both of them inside and store the wheels in the boot.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 12 2015, 11:21 AM)
I'm not sure if my small medium definition is the same as yours. laugh.gif But anyway, I think if you remove both front and back wheels of the bicycle, you can probably fit both of them inside and store the wheels in the boot.
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both medium frame
anyway thanks for head up clue for me icon_rolleyes.gif
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Rm 30 @ 1.95/L. From refuel indicator light up pump den drive till indicator light up and pump again. Can go 140km. 100% city drive. Automatic transmission

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QUOTE(ZeroKunz @ Dec 13 2015, 01:20 PM)
diskbrake starting to rusty.... what to do with it?? sorry ask stupid ques... haha
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I thought it's normal to have some rusty spots on it? Even its only a day of not driving it. After u apply brake for a few times the rust will be gone.
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diskbrake starting to rusty.... what to do with it?? sorry ask stupid ques... haha
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 13 2015, 02:14 PM)
I thought it's normal to have some rusty spots on it? Even its only a day of not driving it. After u apply brake for a few times the rust will be gone.
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shocking.gif Is normal .. especially after rain or kena water.
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Just changed 4 tyres. Bridgestone potenza re003
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 13 2015, 05:02 PM)
Are they high performance tyres ?
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should be rate as performance tyres.
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Are they high performance tyres ?
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Ultra high performance if I'm not mistaken.

QUOTE(Xeon771 @ Dec 13 2015, 05:03 PM)
I just change my outside car door handle but the color given is not the same with the 3 other 3 coz they no stock... then now how i handle this color problem??? any senior can give help???
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Spray paint? hmm.gif
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Ultra high performance if I'm not mistaken.
Spray paint? hmm.gif
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really?? u mean spray paint can dat 1?
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Door handle right? Yes, it can be spray painted.
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Door handle right? Yes, it can be spray painted.
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spray myself?? or shuld i send it to shop?? normally how much is charged just for handle
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Not sure how much shops charge for spraying the handle. I'd send it to a shop cause I don't think I'd do a good job. But if you would like to try, you can get spray cans with the right colour for your car from here.
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Not sure how much shops charge for spraying the handle. I'd send it to a shop cause I don't think I'd do a good job. But if you would like to try, you can get spray cans with the right colour for your car from here.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 10 2015, 09:23 PM)
i dont know, after SC change it with the new one, they said already settle the problem,however the tak tak tak sound still can be heard ..  cry.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Mine also having 'tak' sound when going over bump or when braking, even after changing the mount and absorber sad.gif

Have you went back to sc for recheck? Is the issue addressed?
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 13 2015, 04:47 PM)
Just changed 4 tyres. Bridgestone potenza re003
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price and size? location?

gooding? brows.gif
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any idea what happen to my car? this is second times. first time about 2 weeks ago.
windows all closed. no sign of hole from roof. seat not wet at all. but water there.

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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Dec 15 2015, 09:37 AM)
any idea what happen to my car? this is second times. first time about 2 weeks ago.
windows all closed.  no sign of hole from roof. seat not wet at all. but water there.

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Have you check the door seals? All intact? How about the weather sheet inside the passenger door?

water leaking issue is not easy to solve.
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Dec 14 2015, 10:23 AM)
price and size? location?

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195/55/15
230 per pc
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 15 2015, 10:46 AM)
195/55/15
230 per pc
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i assume you're not using ori rims?

i wonder how 195/55 looks like on ori rims
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Leaking issue is easy to solve. The hard part is only sticking "shields" to cover up parts of the door where water can enter like the door clip holes, or sticking the weather sheet back.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 15 2015, 11:45 AM)
Leaking issue is easy to solve. The hard part is only sticking "shields" to cover up parts of the door where water can enter like the door clip holes, or sticking the weather sheet back.
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weather sheet adhesive might be harden. can use hair dryer to soften it and make it stick again. at least that works for me wink.gif
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Dec 15 2015, 11:09 AM)
i assume you're not using ori rims?

i wonder how 195/55 looks like on ori rims
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switch to sport rim for long time. It will look thinner on ori rim. so do others rim
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Super Saiya regarding water leaks in persoga.

QUOTE(Nicheadison @ Apr 26 2015, 03:27 AM)
Item(s): Proton Persona Wet Carpet / Water Leak Repair
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I know a lot of Proton Persona owners have this wet carpet/water leak problem. I myself experienced it twice  mad.gif
If you find that there is some water in the "longkang" of the rubber (pointed by arrow above) after rainy day, then there is a high possibility that water may get into your cabin.

The problem is actually due to poor seal of the plastic water shield behind the door trim. Some possible causes of poor seal:
1. Improper seal after power window repair (My driver side door as shown, messy black seal compared to the proper seal)
[attachmentid=4426447]  [attachmentid=4426449]
2. Removal of the plastic water seal after soundproofing of the door
3. Upgrade / Install speakers
4. Etc

I am here to provide you the solution. Alternatively, you may DIY to resolve it. But if you are not confident to do so or don't want to get dirty, just contact me  thumbup.gif I have opened the door trim for a lot of time to troubleshoot & do the soundproofing  brows.gif

Package includes:
1. Replace door water shield plastics (Original from Proton)
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2. Reseal door water shield with new Butyl tape
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3. Replace damage door clip caused by me during dismantlement, if any (Using Original Clip from Proton)
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Price: RM250 for 4 doors (Sorry, repair for less than 4 doors is not provided  sweat.gif )

Warranty: No Warranty, test before you leave  thumbup.gif

Dealing method: On-site Repair & COD
-I provide on-site repair for area near Jalan Klang Lama (OUG, Kuchai Lama, Sri Petaling, Bukit Jalil, etc, please whatsapp to confirm) with no extra charge.
-However, please make sure the place is safe and have enough space for me to work  thumbup.gif

Location of seller: Jalan Klang Lama

Contact method/details: Nic, 016-501 Five Three One Five (Whatsapp or SMS only)

Age of item: New

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Item(s) conditions: New

Picture:

Reason for sale: Wanna help Persona owner to solve this annoying problem and at the same time earn extra money  thumbup.gif

FAQ:
Why do I have to replace the plastic water shield?

-Although you can use back the plastic water shield, it is highly recommended to replace it during repair as it may be contaminated with dirt & oil, and it may not stick well to the Butyl tape, causing recurring problem

Picture of dirty plastic water shield
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If you want to do soundproof for your Proton Persona door, I can do it for you also  brows.gif
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RM450 for 4 doors or RM250 for 2 doors (including 1 layer of Edifier vibration damping material on inner part of the door skin + 1 layer of 3M Thinsulate on the door trim)
*Price for the above soundproof is applicable to water leak repair customer only, non-customer need extra RM50
Effect: More solid door closing sound, slightly reduced external noise, "softer" motorcycle & lorry pass by noise (My advice is not to soundproof ONLY the doors too heavily, or else you will have more obvious tyre & engine noise & super heavy door  doh.gif )
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 26 2015, 02:28 PM)
Here are some pictures of my repair done for my driver side door's weather sealing, which recently started allowing a bit of water to pass through:
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Not so neat cause I had a rather blunt scissors.

Basically one of the fix is to apply a bit of windscreen sealant (butyl tape) in a U shape on the inside of the door frame for the clip holes that are located around the mid to the lower part of the door before sticking on a layer of book plastic wrapper for each of the holes to shield the clips from water. For the door weather seal, you can choose to cover the entire door like the original weather plastic sheet or just cover the important parts individually.

However, if your door's original weather seal is in a good condition and just needs a fresh layer of butyl tape to stop water from passing through, scrape off the old tape if required and apply the new tape accordingly onto the door following the pattern that Proton did it in. There are some tiny holes that you must not cover to allow any trapped water to escape, and you should be able to spot such holes easily. I ripped mine off cause it was already pretty dirty and slightly torn in certain spots.
I see. Been suffering from wiper judder under light rain conditions for a long time now doh.gif. Really annoyed cause I need to regulate the speed of the wiper myself to stop it from being annoying. Luckily it's totally smooth under heavy rain.
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AUTO T/LID SYSTEM,W. ACT ROD (LATCH ASSY)
RM55.60
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This is the quotation I got from Proton Parts Centre for the Remote Trunk Release System. Planning to get it tomorrow from PPC since it's pretty damn cheap. The connector for it is already there, or at least it is for my boot. smile.gif

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 16 2015, 05:30 PM)
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RM55.60
*PRICE INCLUDING GST
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This is the quotation I got from Proton Parts Centre for the Remote Trunk Release System. Planning to get it tomorrow from PPC since it's pretty damn cheap. The connector for it is already there, or at least it is for my boot. smile.gif
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the complete set? shocking.gif
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the complete set?  shocking.gif
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Uhmmm.. I dunno, but I assume it is the complete thing since all you need for the release system to work is to have the actuator + the actuator rod. If your boot doesn't have the padding, take a look inside around the latch area and you will see the lock mechanism. There are two metal parts of the lock mechanism with holes, and one of them will cause the lock to be released when it is pushed down, which is where the actuator rod probably connects to.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 16 2015, 05:45 PM)
Uhmmm.. I dunno, but I assume it is the complete thing since all you need for the release system to work is to have the actuator + the actuator rod. If your boot doesn't have the padding, take a look inside around the latch area and you will see the lock mechanism. There are two metal parts of the lock mechanism with holes, and one of them will cause the lock to be released when it is pushed down, which is where the actuator rod probably connects to.
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on the trunk or the hook area?
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 16 2015, 06:57 PM)
on the trunk or the hook area?
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On the trunk.
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This is the quotation I got from Proton Parts Centre for the Remote Trunk Release System. Planning to get it tomorrow from PPC since it's pretty damn cheap. The connector for it is already there, or at least it is for my boot. smile.gif
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Have to get a new proton immobilizer to use this function ?
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 16 2015, 07:03 PM)
On the trunk.
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hi regarding Bendix Ultimate , should i trust this online seller-->

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or u got another suggestion for brake pads?

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 16 2015, 09:04 PM)
Have to get a new proton immobilizer to use this function ?
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Don't think so. The alarm system seems to already have this feature included. Pressing /holding the alarm button when the car is unlocked should cause the remote trunk release to operate. There is no mention of an additional button for this operation anywhere in the manual.
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Dec 15 2015, 09:37 AM)
any idea what happen to my car? this is second times. first time about 2 weeks ago.
windows all closed.  no sign of hole from roof. seat not wet at all. but water there.

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i also have this problem, with all my four doors leaking !! re-doing door wheather sheild also same. lastly i just poke holes on door rubber liner, to allow water flowing out during raining and ultimately solved my problem !!

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Bendix Ultimate brake pads front for my Persona SV just arrived  nod.gif  laugh.gif
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Front and rear? How much u paid for it? Still got that screeching sound?
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Mind asking which black oil is good for persona engine? currently i have been driving my persona for almost 6 years, all the while im using helix semi syntactic
any other recommend oil?

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hey

Mind asking which black oil is good for persona engine? currently i have been driving my persona for almost 6 years, all the while im using helix semi syntactic
any other recommend oil? 

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after 6 years,better change your valve gasket cover,then use 5W-30 semi sync/5W-40 fully.I prefer Eneos.
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QUOTE(hyloy @ Dec 17 2015, 07:09 AM)
i also have this problem, with all my four doors leaking !! re-doing door wheather sheild also same. lastly i just poke holes on door rubber liner, to allow water flowing out during raining and ultimately solved my problem !!
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can you snap photo of where you poke the holes?
mine also leaking recently. weather sheet all 4 doors were sticked tight 2 years ago, don't tell me every 1-2 years need to open door panel to stick again, not a permanent solution. i suspect the water flow is towards inside the door rubber, not a good design...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2015, 09:49 AM)
can you snap photo of where you poke the holes?
mine also leaking recently. weather sheet all 4 doors were sticked tight 2 years ago, don't tell me every 1-2 years need to open door panel to stick again, not a permanent solution. i suspect the water flow is towards inside the door rubber, not a good design...
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my driver door still leaking after sticked tight with hair dryer heating the adhesives a month ago doh.gif
lucky back passenger door is fine
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 17 2015, 08:03 AM)
Front and rear? How much u paid for it? Still got that screeching sound?
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only front set, but still not yet install it..
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 17 2015, 09:05 AM)
after 6 years,better change your valve gasket cover,then use 5W-30 semi sync/5W-40 fully.I prefer Eneos.
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mind to explain why use 5w/30 semi instead of 10w/40?

my car age also 5.5 year, been using 10w/40 semi all the time.
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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Dec 17 2015, 05:34 PM)
mind to explain why use 5w/30 semi instead of 10w/40?

my car age also 5.5 year, been using 10w/40 semi all the time.
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lighter more fuel economy.i have been using 5W-30 since last 7 years on my Persona.No problem.

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2015, 09:49 AM)
can you snap photo of where you poke the holes?
mine also leaking recently. weather sheet all 4 doors were sticked tight 2 years ago, don't tell me every 1-2 years need to open door panel to stick again, not a permanent solution. i suspect the water flow is towards inside the door rubber, not a good design...
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u have to pokes few hole in order for water to go inside the rubber. in my case i made three hole for rear door and four for front door.


to be continued...

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 17 2015, 06:09 PM)
lighter more fuel economy.i have been using 5W-30 since last 7 years on my Persona.No problem.
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then also made few hole under the rubber in order for water to flowing out.

what a shame for proton have desinged in that way where water are trapped in the rubber later go into cabin.

after this exercise, u will notice amount of water near outside of rubber liner after rain. this proof that all the while the water are free flow into the cabin instead of flow outside.
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doh.gif Missing quite a bit of components for the auto trunk system, which are as follows:

1) Mounting plate
2) Wire connection
3) Screws
4) Actuator Rod

I purchased a new boot latch that comes with the Actuator Rod. I think it's supposed to be included with the motor, but then since PPC was closing I decided to buy it and remove the rod and keep the new latch as a spare since they already took it from the store.

For some reason the connector that is hanging off the boot doesn't connect directly to the motor. Based on the picture that I saw, there is apparently a wire that comes with the motor, which I didn't ask for since I thought that it connects directly to the one in the boot. The mounting points on the motor doesn't line up with the holes on the trunk, and even if it did, the screw required doesn't make sense or would be too huge for the motor. This is probably why there was an image of a plate in the diagram of the trunk lid system. doh.gif I thought that I could get away with using some screws that I already have in the house.

Total damage so far: RM110+-. Might rise if the rest of the parts aren't actually included with the price of the motor.


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then also made few hole under the rubber in order for water to flowing out.

what a shame for proton have desinged in that way where water are trapped in the rubber later go into cabin.

after this exercise, u will notice amount of water near outside of rubber liner after rain. this proof that all the while the water are free flow into the cabin instead of flow outside.
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I can tell you that if no water actually makes it pass the weather sheet/door, the inner* part of the rubber you cut into would be completely dry. smile.gif

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QUOTE(hyloy @ Dec 17 2015, 07:09 AM)
i also have this problem, with all my four doors leaking !! re-doing door wheather sheild also same. lastly i just poke holes on door rubber liner, to allow water flowing out during raining and ultimately solved my problem !!
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How old is your car? Foreman taught you the technique?
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 17 2015, 07:17 PM)
I can tell you that if no water actually makes it pass the weather sheet/door, the inner* part of the rubber you cut into would be completely dry. smile.gif
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true, but how frequent we have to reseal the weather sheet during the ownership? for me after 1-2 years this happening again. lazy to open door panel again.
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How old is your car? Foreman taught you the technique?
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three years old car. i bought it second hand.
i just think of my own. i noticed every time if my carpet get wet, there are some water trapped in the rubber linen and i'm thinking just made a 'drain' to flowing out the water and the idea of cutting the hole in rubber linen has come out in my mind.
so far so good, no water in the carpet after so many days of heavy rain.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2015, 08:36 PM)
true, but how frequent we have to reseal the weather sheet during the ownership? for me after 1-2 years this happening again. lazy to open door panel again.
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It depends I guess. So far all my diys are still doing well. Only got leakage occasionally because Ive been messing around with the doors and didn't stick the thing back properly, or because i did a quick and temporary fix.


QUOTE(hyloy @ Dec 17 2015, 08:47 PM)
three years old car. i bought it second hand.
i just think of my own. i noticed every time if my carpet get wet, there are some water trapped in the rubber linen and i'm thinking just made a 'drain' to flowing out the water and the idea of cutting the hole in rubber linen has come out in my mind.
so far so good, no water in the carpet after so many days of heavy rain.
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Actually this isn't a bad idea as long as it does not affect the seals' ability to block external noise
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anyone replace persona LED brake tail light before? how much the cost?
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anyone replace persona LED brake tail light before? how much the cost?
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 18 2015, 02:04 AM)
the whole lamp is 300++ but the led module alone is 120ish
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 17 2015, 07:13 PM)
doh.gif Missing quite a bit of components for the auto trunk system, which are as follows:

1) Mounting plate
2) Wire connection
3) Screws
4) Actuator Rod

I purchased a new boot latch that comes with the Actuator Rod. I think it's supposed to be included with the motor, but then since PPC was closing I decided to buy it and remove the rod and keep the new latch as a spare since they already took it from the store.

For some reason the connector that is hanging off the boot doesn't connect directly to the motor. Based on the picture that I saw, there is apparently a wire that comes with the motor, which I didn't ask for since I thought that it connects directly to the one in the boot. The mounting points on the motor doesn't line up with the holes on the trunk, and even if it did, the screw required doesn't make sense or would be too huge for the motor. This is probably why there was an image of a plate in the diagram of the trunk lid system. doh.gif I thought that I could get away with using some screws that I already have in the house.

Total damage so far: RM110+-. Might rise if the rest of the parts aren't actually included with the price of the motor.
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i think the alarm system doesnt include also... if its there then when you activate trunk release.. you could open the boot without triggering the alarm right?

edit: just read the book.. need to unlock doors first only can use the trunk release... sweat.gif

edit: i assume that it has a different module... (For vehicle fitted with remote boot release system)


QUOTE(zr125 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:02 AM)
wah, so expensive 1.. where to get? SC?
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not sure.. i only know the price is around there laugh.gif

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 18 2015, 12:42 PM)
i think the alarm system doesnt include also... if its there then when you activate trunk release.. you could open the boot without triggering the alarm right?

edit: just read the book.. need to unlock doors first only can use the trunk release...  sweat.gif

edit: i assume that it has a different module... (For vehicle fitted with remote boot release system)
not sure.. i only know the price is around there  laugh.gif
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sweat.gif I got the holding plate and found some suitable screws to secure the motor to the plate and the plate to the boot. Also got the connector that connects to the motor and then the connection that's hanging off the trunk, but my boot release system isn't working. sweat.gif The panic button still causes the car to lock and the horn to start blaring no matter what I try. If the alarm module for the B and M line Persona is different, I guess I'm screwed since the boot release will not work unless I change it to the right alarm module.
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sweat.gif I got the holding plate and found some suitable screws to secure the motor to the plate and the plate to the boot. Also got the connector that connects to the motor and then the connection that's hanging off the trunk, but my boot release system isn't working. sweat.gif The panic button still causes the car to lock and the horn to start blaring no matter what I try. If the alarm module for the B and M line Persona is different, I guess I'm screwed since the boot release will not work unless I change it to the right alarm module.
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B and M has the same one.. only H sweat.gif or maybe need some settings on the module? hmm.gif maybe got jumper switch gua

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:09 PM)
B and M has the same one.. only H  sweat.gif or maybe need some settings on the module?  hmm.gif maybe got jumper switch gua
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Sorry I mean B and H. Oh well. Now looking around for answers.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 18 2015, 09:09 PM)
Sorry I mean B and H. Oh well. Now looking around for answers.
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ask proton engineers brows.gif btw.. do you know how to make rear fog lamp?
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 19 2015, 02:09 AM)
ask proton engineers brows.gif btw.. do you know how to make rear fog lamp?
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Interested with this too hehe

Changed to PS3 today @ 235/donut
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 19 2015, 02:09 AM)
ask proton engineers brows.gif btw.. do you know how to make rear fog lamp?
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Nope. I think we will have to drill into the rear lamps to put the bulbs. Other than that I think any accessory shop can help you get it done by using a switch and relays.


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Interested with this too hehe

Changed to PS3 today @ 235/donut
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Dec 19 2015, 09:46 PM)
Interested with this too hehe

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I changed Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE003 drool.gif RM 230/pc
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 19 2015, 10:59 PM)
Nope. I think we will have to drill into the rear lamps to put the bulbs. Other than that I think any accessory shop can help you get it done by using a switch and relays.
Are you on a lowered suspension set-up? How does your car look now?
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Stock suspension. No big difference la. By calculation, 195/55 only causes the car to be lower by about 10mm compared to 195/60. Tyre looks slightly smaller if you stare at it long enough lol.

QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 20 2015, 10:58 AM)
I changed Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE003 drool.gif  RM 230/pc
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That's Bridgestone's equivalent of PS3 or higher?

My tyre is quite new. 4x15, forgot it's 43 or 47.
I feel it's more quiet now. Not sure placebo or not but probably real because new tyres at the front.
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Hi sifus, my car got alarm problem. All doors are closed including trunk and hood. But cannot lock it using alarm and will have beep sound 5 times and led light inside dashboard blip 3 times. Any solution?
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QUOTE(chin89 @ Dec 20 2015, 08:59 PM)
Hi sifus, my car got alarm problem. All doors are closed including trunk and hood. But cannot lock it using alarm and will have beep sound 5 times and led light inside dashboard blip 3 times. Any solution?
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Do you have the manual with you? It will tell you which part of the car isn't closed based on the number of times the LED is blinking. I don't have mine with me right now.
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Dec 20 2015, 04:33 PM)
Stock suspension. No big difference la. By calculation, 195/55 only causes the car to be lower by about 10mm compared to 195/60. Tyre looks slightly smaller if you stare at it long enough lol.
That's Bridgestone's equivalent of PS3 or higher?

My tyre is quite new. 4x15, forgot it's 43 or 47.
I feel it's more quiet now. Not sure placebo or not but probably real because new tyres at the front.
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almost equivalent. some say re003 grip is better than ps3. but re003 is noisy than ps3.

PS 3 treadwear 3xx

re003 cheaper ( 15 inch )

re003 grip better dry and wet ( persona experience )

ps3 quite , when left 40 % wear will become noisy.
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 20 2015, 10:32 PM)
almost equivalent. some say re003 grip is better than ps3. but re003 is noisy than ps3.

PS 3 treadwear 3xx

re003 cheaper ( 15 inch )

re003 grip better  dry and wet ( persona experience )

ps3 quite , when left 40 % wear will become noisy.
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grip better probably because threadwear rating lower.

ps3 really quiet now. any tyres when worn out will become noisy i suppose.
need to start budget for another 2 pieces. old tyres makan dalam until inner thread almost botak doh.gif moneyflies.gif
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to all Persona kakis...get your body spare part here.quite cheap and good quality.bought a replacement rear lamp for RM100.

link to supplier

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Just asking, if changing the stock cd player to a 2 Din DVD with reverse cam will void the warranty?
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Going to get my 2nd Persona Tomorrow.
Just asking, if changing the stock cd player to a 2 Din DVD with reverse cam will void the warranty?
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why persona and not other car such as preve, iriz? rclxms.gif
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Interested with this too hehe

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using proton mintye for rear brake pad, quite ok and very less dust compare to original bosch (super dust emitter) come when the car is new.
but when cold and rainy, sometime the rear brake will emit "wo wo" noise on 1st initial brake when reversing out from home. after a few braking noise is gone...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 22 2015, 02:08 PM)
using proton mintye for rear brake pad, quite ok and very less dust compare to original bosch (super dust emitter) come when the car is new.
but when cold and rainy, sometime the rear brake will emit "wo wo" noise on 1st initial brake when reversing out from home. after a few braking noise is gone...
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rear break is mintye too, front bosch for stock pads, changed to brembo breaking power good thumbup.gif

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Gonna get my rear drum system swapped out for a disc system tomorrow if everything goes as planned. biggrin.gif My rear right brake recently failed out of the blue when I was driving. The brake pedal suddenly went deeper which was accompanied by a "kok" sound from the rear right brake. Tired of the drum brakes which have been giving me issues since the day I started using the car.

My handbrake doesn't work correctly now, but luckily I still have my parking brake. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 22 2015, 10:01 PM)
Gonna get my rear drum system swapped out for a disc system tomorrow if everything goes as planned. biggrin.gif My rear right brake recently failed out of the blue when I was driving. The brake pedal suddenly went deeper which was accompanied by a "kok" sound from the rear right brake. Tired of the drum brakes which have been giving me issues since the day I started using the car.

My handbrake doesn't work correctly now, but luckily I still have my parking brake. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 22 2015, 10:10 PM)
Update the cost of swapping the rear drum to disc. I think my rear brake also failing soon. Too many trips to Cyberjaya via MEX and i often speed till 190kmph to 200kmph lol.
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The workshop I'm going to is Ezy Garage which is selling the set for RM1200. Don't need to remove the arms, so I think I won't need to re-do the alignment for the rear. A little bit on the high side, but most of the parts are new except for the brake calipers which are serviced units, but if they work fine, it's fine by me.
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The workshop I'm going to is Ezy Garage which is selling the set for RM1200. Don't need to remove the arms, so I think I won't need to re-do the alignment for the rear. A little bit on the high side, but most of the parts are new except for the brake calipers which are serviced units, but if they work fine, it's fine by me.
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Yeah, the brake calipers should be ok. Last I ask from the garage near my place say it cost me around RM1600+ which I think it's ridiculously overpriced...
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Yeah, the brake calipers should be ok. Last I ask from the garage near my place say it cost me around RM1600+ which I think it's ridiculously overpriced...
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Yup.. That one is really overpriced. If it was RM1600 I'd rather buy parts myself, which means everything will be completely new. Probably will still have cash to buy suitable tools like a breaker bar etc as well to DIY. laugh.gif. Then bring it to a workshop to get them to install the handbrake cable.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 22 2015, 02:08 PM)
using proton mintye for rear brake pad, quite ok and very less dust compare to original bosch (super dust emitter) come when the car is new.
but when cold and rainy, sometime the rear brake will emit "wo wo" noise on 1st initial brake when reversing out from home. after a few braking noise is gone...
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Stock Bosch brake pads very dusty and also gives screeching sounds. I have changed all front and rear pads to trestor, no more annoying braking sounds! So far so good. Using for a month already.
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Thinking to buy 2nd hand Persona H-line 2011-2012.. any comment sifus here? Mainly used to go to work (15km per day, 75% city 25% highway driving). Tired of driving manual car in KL now yawn.gif
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Dec 23 2015, 04:14 PM)
Thinking to buy 2nd hand Persona H-line 2011-2012.. any comment sifus here? Mainly used to go to work (15km per day, 75% city 25% highway driving). Tired of driving manual car in KL now  yawn.gif
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Thinking to buy 2nd hand Persona H-line 2011-2012.. any comment sifus here? Mainly used to go to work (15km per day, 75% city 25% highway driving). Tired of driving manual car in KL now  yawn.gif
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Gonna get my rear drum system swapped out for a disc system tomorrow if everything goes as planned. biggrin.gif My rear right brake recently failed out of the blue when I was driving. The brake pedal suddenly went deeper which was accompanied by a "kok" sound from the rear right brake. Tired of the drum brakes which have been giving me issues since the day I started using the car.

My handbrake doesn't work correctly now, but luckily I still have my parking brake. laugh.gif
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then they tell you H-Line disc not compatible with B and M have to get whole H-Line set with ABS laugh.gif
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then they tell you H-Line disc not compatible with B and M have to get whole H-Line set with ABS  laugh.gif
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No wor. biggrin.gif. Now driving with four discs Liao. Mitsubishi caliper with General CT pads

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No wor. biggrin.gif. Now driving with four discs Liao. Mitsubishi caliper with General CT pads
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Not very good fuel efficiency for city driving. If the car is properly maintained it is a fairly decent car.
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So how's the brake pads? No more annoying sounds right? Congrats !
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Rear pads no sound. Front pad still using MKT.

QUOTE(Are_keem @ Dec 24 2015, 12:20 AM)
But still better than Preve IAFM rite? Due to persona's lighter body weight. Many ppl recommend Vios but I think the maintenance cost is quite high compare to Persona. Also saw offer for used 2014 Persona Exec for 34k, sounds interesting. Hmmm
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Does it include water pump?????
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My first impression of Ezy Garage wasn't really good cause of how it looked. It's quite small, not very noticeable cause the signboard is barely visible although it's just beside a badly maintained road and a car wash. The car working platform was made out of wood which wasn't really secured, and the expert looks like a foreigner with his fair skin, and the tiga suku pants. As it turns out, that guy is actually a Malay and he's from Penang, and he is very experienced with disc conversions because he wasn't struggling with anything at all. The only thing that caused the job to be over 4 hours long is because he wanted a better handbrake cable, and the spare parts shop had to hunt for it. The job would have otherwise taken just about 1 and a half hours or so.

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The caliper, which based on what the mechanic said, is for the CK, GSR, Mivec or something. I asked for the rear calipers to be painted black. The caliper also acts as the parking brake. It is reasonably strong, but it could be better. The handbrake was adjusted to max out at 5 clicks. It can be adjusted to be tighter but I want to make sure that the pads are not riding on the rotors when they're not engaged. Maybe the handbrake will become stronger once the brake pads get bedded in.

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The drum brakes that were taken out. The reason why my rear right brake failed is because the brake lining came off. The paint of the drum was also heavily corroded since brake fluid was leaking, which is surprising cause the wheel cylinders got replaced just about a year ago. grumble.gif I'm happy to finally see the drum brakes disappear from my car.

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I don't think so. The Timing belt kit should only include the oil seals, the timing belt tensioner, and the belt itself.
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around how much the cost of svc in sc if anyone might know? thx flex.gif
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Tackle engine noise and road noise first. biggrin.gif Get it done properly with proper sound and vibration absorbing materials, not with things that are meant for heat insulation.

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20k soon  rclxub.gif
around how much the cost of svc in sc if anyone might know? thx  flex.gif
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Wah. shocking.gif Time to get Elegance bumper + skirting? brows.gif

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Wtf...last time tayar tercabut and myvi driver died on the spot. cry.gif

Enforcement on lorry really weak nowdays.
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That's it, going up to genting later in the morning. Hopefully my brake last when coming down. Will visit nestum to change front tyres soon to CDrive2 on Tuesday. biggrin.gif

Ping ping nestum first here.

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Tackle engine noise and road noise first. biggrin.gif Get it done properly with proper sound and vibration absorbing materials, not with things that are meant for heat insulation.

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i found my problem , the noise from engine tapping "cit cit cit" when over 2800k rpm , not a iafm , iafm is at back of engine which i never boarder to change even the first day i received the car knowing iafm has this issue , but only happen to me 3rd year after warranty.

the cit cit cit sound is at front , suspect the valve, all the while i use Caltex Havoline EO, but lately i go use Castrol Magnetec for the last two lube change not sure does it made the sound, but performance is superb, i remember last few year the Castrol Magnectec oil never change dark easily but now the new one seems more easily to change dark colour in just >2k km use hmm.gif

recommend me any good campro engine service center to check this notworthy.gif

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Brake pad
Disc rotor with drilled.

Lower arm might need to change if doesnt fit.

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Cross and drilled disc rotor
Bendix Metal King Titanium brake pad

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i need help!!! anyone can teach me how to remove the cap from the spare tyre???
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On top of the cap have 1 screw/nut.. remove it.. then you can take out the spare tyre from the bay
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On top of the cap have 1 screw/nut.. remove it.. then you can take out the spare tyre from the bay
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Hello to all the sifu's out there.

I just bought a 2009 Persona (1st gen, not special editions or elegance) with IAFM. it is a manual h-line. Need to ask for advice here.

1) my brake discs are quite thin. I think these are the original discs from the factory, and now it's not biting well. my dad says can skim but i think it's better to replace. any advice? if need to replace, i don't need performance parts, normal discs can already. any good brake shops to go to?

2) my engine starts to have a tak-tak-tak sound. I think it's the (in)famous iafm problem. Since the sound is quite soft, should I go to a workshop to repair it or should I replace it? for all the bros who replaced their iafm, did the problem come back again?

I was quoted at proton edar larkin in JB that the cost of replacement including labour is RM600+. I read from previous posts that RM300+ can gaodim everything with labour. Is the RM300+ quoted by a service centre? Should I replace at a service centre or go to 3rd party workshop? Is it true that later batches of iafm module uses thicker stronger plastic that won't crack?

3) I saw that there are some recommended service centres in the first post of this thread. any recommended SC's or 3rd party mechanics (good, professional service) in Johor? Likewise, any good, honest stockists in Johor to recommend?

4) can I use 5w30 engine oil in the persona?

So far I have used the car for 3 weeks, fuel consumption is about 12km/L, 30% city 70% highway. Hopefully it can improve after I send for servicing.

Btw I'm from singapore and I just got this car 2nd hand. Not too sure what the previous owner did or did not do but overall seems decent enough. this car is quite cold door here so I was hoping for some lobangs from this thread.

Thank you!
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Hello to all the sifu's out there.

I just bought a 2009 Persona (1st gen, not special editions or elegance) with IAFM.  it is a manual h-line.  Need to ask for advice here.
[COLOR=red]Highline dont have Manual. Highline only have auto only

1) my brake discs are quite thin. I think these are the original discs from the factory, and now it's not biting well.  my dad says can skim but i think it's better to replace.  any advice?  if need to replace, i don't need performance parts, normal discs can already.  any good brake shops to go to?
if thin then dont skim.

2) my engine starts to have a tak-tak-tak sound.  I think it's the (in)famous iafm problem.  Since the sound is quite soft, should I go to a workshop to repair it or should I replace it?  for all the bros who replaced their iafm, did the problem come back again?
[COLOR=red]repair 1st.

I was quoted at proton edar larkin in JB that the cost of replacement including labour is RM600+.  I read from previous posts that RM300+ can gaodim everything with labour.  Is the RM300+ quoted by a service centre?  Should I replace at a service centre or go to 3rd party workshop?  Is it true that later batches of iafm module uses thicker stronger plastic that won't crack?
[COLOR=red]now no more 300+ already. The IAFM manifold already 5xx not include labour

3) I saw that there are some recommended service centres in the first post of this thread.  any recommended SC's or 3rd party mechanics (good, professional service) in Johor?  Likewise, any good, honest stockists in Johor to recommend?

4) can I use 5w30 engine oil in the persona?
[COLOR=red]Can, if your car dint makan engine oil or no leaking.

So far I have used the car for 3 weeks, fuel consumption is about 12km/L, 30% city 70% highway.  Hopefully it can improve after I send for servicing.

Btw I'm from singapore and I just got this car 2nd hand.  Not too sure what the previous owner did or did not do but overall seems decent enough.  this car is quite cold door here so I was hoping for some lobangs from this thread.

Thank you!
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Planning to upgrade brake system again.

Next Stage
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Brake pad
Disc rotor with drilled.

Lower arm might need to change if doesnt fit.

Currently stage upgraded
Brake servo double layer evo 5
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Whats the price to change persona timing belt?

Thanks!
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Whats the price to change persona timing belt?

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Gates Timing Belt Kit ( Two Oil Seal, one Tensioner Bearing, one Timing Belt) - RM110+-
Labour - RM100 ~ RM120
Water Pump - RM100
Proton Coolant - RM20 ~ RM30

Off topic:

So many f**king retarded K, M, P and C drivers around Klang Valley these days. Either hog the right lane, hog two lanes cause they don't know where to go, or simply park on the main road.

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OE replacements:

Gates Timing Belt Kit ( Two Oil Seal, one Tensioner Bearing, one Timing Belt) - RM110+-
Labour - RM100 ~ RM120
Water Pump - RM100
Proton Coolant - RM20 ~ RM30

Off topic:

So many f**king retarded K, M, P and C drivers around Klang Valley these days. Either hog the right lane, hog two lanes cause they don't know where to go, or simply park on the main road.
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hi all... long time didnt drop by here..... waiting my car to be done repair from workshop...

involved into minor accident last month ago .... hit and killed a cow.... lol
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 25 2015, 07:26 PM)
Tackle engine noise and road noise first. biggrin.gif Get it done properly with proper sound and vibration absorbing materials, not with things that are meant for heat insulation.
Not sure about the cost, but ideally you should be changing the following:

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 26 2015, 05:30 PM)
i found my problem , the noise from engine tapping "cit cit cit" when over 2800k rpm , not a iafm , iafm is at back of engine which i never boarder to change even the first day i received the car knowing iafm has this issue , but only happen to me 3rd year after warranty.

the cit cit cit sound is at front , suspect the valve, all the while i use Caltex Havoline EO, but lately i go use Castrol Magnetec for the last two lube change not sure does it made the sound, but performance is superb, i remember last few year the Castrol Magnectec oil never change dark easily but now the new one seems more easily to change dark colour in just >2k km use  hmm.gif

recommend me any good campro engine service center to check this  notworthy.gif
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fuuu added one bottle X1R, tapping sound gone sweat.gif

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fuuu added one bottle X1R, tapping sound gone  sweat.gif
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I thought X1R is bad cause it causes sludge to build up? hmm.gif
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I recommend Zordaq Motorsport if you have no other workshops in mind, but they're kinda short of manpower.

I thought X1R is bad cause it causes sludge to build up? hmm.gif
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How about J?
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Same. Forgot about A plates also. A plate Perdana don't want to give way on highway from Klang when middle lane is empty. I switch to middle then someone switch from left to middle so I had to brake. Then he start speeding up but in the end still have to give way to a Volvo that was flying.

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not always use is ok , my car 5 year this is second time use  biggrin.gif
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I see. I used Ceratec + the WS2 Nano thing last time. My engine is much quieter than it was, and it lost the aggressive acceleration growl.

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I see. I used Ceratec + the WS2 Nano thing last time. My engine is much quieter than it was, and it lost the aggressive acceleration growl.
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I search around tesco found only X1r and the STP can additive, shake a bit feel like it is too thick scare ruin my engine oil performance and it is baldy big can with pull ring opener cannot pour only 1/4 and keep the remaining so i buy X1R , after add tapping sound gone and engine now only raw campro sound, performance doesn't minus much can feel like abit elastic rubber pick up, before this is like easy to rev but pickup power seems not in line together.

I'm gonna try the free Octane booster for next tank of petrol, it say can increase 3 index of Ron means Ron95 >Ron98
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 28 2015, 06:54 PM)
I search around tesco found only X1r and the STP can additive, shake a bit feel like it is too thick scare ruin my engine oil performance and it is baldy big can with pull ring opener cannot pour only 1/4 and keep the remaining so i buy X1R , after add tapping sound gone and engine now only raw campro sound, performance doesn't minus much can feel like abit elastic rubber pick up, before this is like easy to rev but pickup power seems not in line together.

I'm gonna try the free Octane booster for next tank of petrol, it say can increase 3 index of Ron means Ron95 >Ron98
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i thought pour them in the gas tank? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 28 2015, 12:26 AM)
hi all... long time didnt drop by here..... waiting my car to be done repair from workshop...

involved into minor accident last month ago .... hit and killed a cow.... lol
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Hit and killed the cow and its considered as minor accident? I heard there are people who hit a cow and the car total lost and some drivers died of injuries.

Any photos?
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 28 2015, 07:48 PM)
i thought pour them in the gas tank?  hmm.gif
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Octane booster is in gas tank, oil treatment is for engine oil , i brought oil treatment free Octane booster, so i will try the next refuel , but i guest it would not has much different like i pump in ron97 for campro
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
Octane booster is in gas tank, oil treatment is for engine oil , i brought oil treatment free Octane booster, so i will try the next refuel , but i guest it would not has much different like i pump in ron97 for campro
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oh.. i thought the X1-R petrol additives or something.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 28 2015, 09:12 PM)
Hit and killed the cow and its considered as minor accident? I heard there are people who hit a cow and the car total lost and some  drivers died of injuries.

Any photos?
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erm..... total damage of 10k repair..... including front mirror..... should thanks to the air bag..... only caused reddish on my arm only..... luckly heh ?
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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 29 2015, 01:11 AM)
erm..... total damage of 10k repair..... including front mirror..... should thanks to the air bag..... only caused reddish on my arm only..... luckly heh ?
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What's the speed when u hit the cow? Kampung roads isit?

Ya you are lucky cuz u bought a good car LOL.
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
Octane booster is in gas tank, oil treatment is for engine oil , i brought oil treatment free Octane booster, so i will try the next refuel , but i guest it would not has much different like i pump in ron97 for campro
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before using such product; better make sure the engine is in good condition.

for aged persona;i recommend to

-clean your engine from any grease first
-change your valve cover gasket to new one
-change your fuel filter
-clean and reset your throttle body
-change to K&N air filter
-use 5W-30 engine oil
-use new spark plugs
-use Caltex Techron injector cleaner.
-check or replace your purge valve canister.

hopefully your Persona will be much better.from my observation;u can get 300-350KM per 35 liter of fuel for 100% city driving if u keep your engine in tip top condition.

nothing we can do about the sluggishness below 2-3K RPM.but u can try to minimal the effect by

-remove your catalytic converter
-use 4-2-1 extractor
-use lightened crank pulley with same size as OEM.

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 28 2015, 10:03 PM)
oh.. i thought the X1-R petrol additives or something..  sweat.gif
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it is X1R brand petrol additives, i brought X1R engine oil treatment free X1R Octane booster
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 29 2015, 08:07 AM)
before using such product; better make sure the engine is in good condition.

for aged persona;i recommend to

-clean your engine from any grease first
-change your valve cover gasket to new one
-change your fuel filter
-clean and reset your throttle body
-change to K&N air filter
-use 5W-30 engine oil
-use new spark plugs
-use Caltex Techron injector cleaner.
-check or replace your purge valve canister.

hopefully your Persona will be much better.from my observation;u can get 300-350KM per 35 liter of fuel for 100% city driving if u keep your engine in tip top condition.

nothing we can do about the sluggishness below 2-3K RPM.but u can try to minimal the effect by

-remove your catalytic converter
-use 4-2-1 extractor
-use lightened crank pulley with same size as OEM.
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lol laugh.gif

-clean your engine from any grease first
just change oil.

-change your valve cover gasket to new one
done 1 year ago when leaking

-change your fuel filter
done during major service

-clean and reset your throttle body
pending

-change to K&N air filter
i use original filter change every 10k km

-use 5W-30 engine oil
my 5w-40 aldy valve ticking still use 5w-30 biggrin.gif

-use new spark plugs
done major service

-use Caltex Techron injector cleaner.
no need, i die hard Caltex petrol fans laugh.gif

-check or replace your purge valve canister.
will check and see

hopefully your Persona will be much better.from my observation;u can get 300-350KM per 35 liter of fuel for 100% city driving if u keep your engine in tip top condition.
Yes currently i get about this mileage

nothing we can do about the sluggishness below 2-3K RPM.but u can try to minimal the effect by
i dun complain about this smile.gif

-remove your catalytic converter
will remove after the life span arrive

-use 4-2-1 extractor
noted, but never in my list dun like more noise

-use lightened crank pulley with same size as OEM.
aldy done in my 2nd year with Works Engineering
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What is the stock brand for the Persona battery?
It serve me nearly 2 years.
It died yesterday, and replaced Bosch S3+ iinm cost me about 344 (incld GST). Is the price really that expensive?
I feel like being chopped.
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What is the stock brand for the Persona battery?
It serve me nearly 2 years.
It died yesterday, and replaced Bosch S3+ iinm cost me about 344 (incld GST). Is the price really that expensive?
I feel like being chopped.
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walao, 1.5 years back my bosch s3+ cost rm250 after trade-in old battery. now gst.....
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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 29 2015, 01:11 AM)
erm..... total damage of 10k repair..... including front mirror..... should thanks to the air bag..... only caused reddish on my arm only..... luckly heh ?
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wow, persona front also as tough as volvo 240?
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 29 2015, 08:56 AM)
it is X1R brand petrol additives, i brought X1R engine oil treatment free X1R Octane booster
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lol  laugh.gif

-clean your engine from any grease first
just change oil.

-change your valve cover gasket to new one
done 1 year ago when leaking

-change your fuel filter
done during major service

-clean and reset your throttle body
pending

-change to K&N air filter
i use original filter change every 10k km

-use 5W-30 engine oil
my 5w-40 aldy valve ticking still use 5w-30  biggrin.gif

-use new spark plugs
done major service

-use Caltex Techron injector cleaner.
no need, i die hard Caltex petrol fans  laugh.gif 

-check or replace your purge valve canister.
will check and see

hopefully your Persona will be much better.from my observation;u can get 300-350KM per 35 liter of fuel for 100% city driving if u keep your engine in tip top condition.
Yes currently i get about this mileage

nothing we can do about the sluggishness below 2-3K RPM.but u can try to minimal the effect by
i dun complain about this  smile.gif

-remove your catalytic converter
will remove after the life span arrive

-use 4-2-1 extractor
noted, but never in my list dun like more noise

-use lightened crank pulley with same size as OEM.
aldy done in my 2nd year with Works Engineering
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QUOTE(lansi_raju @ Dec 29 2015, 09:10 AM)
What is the stock brand for the Persona battery?
It serve me nearly 2 years.
It died yesterday, and replaced Bosch S3+ iinm cost me about 344 (incld GST). Is the price really that expensive?
I feel like being chopped.
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Should be Ramcar just like any other Plotong cars. I got my S3+ last time for RM220, but that was a good 3 years ago. I switched to a Century Power/Hybrid Wet battery a few months back for RM290.
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QUOTE(lansi_raju @ Dec 29 2015, 09:10 AM)
What is the stock brand for the Persona battery?
It serve me nearly 2 years.
It died yesterday, and replaced Bosch S3+ iinm cost me about 344 (incld GST). Is the price really that expensive?
I feel like being chopped.
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Just change my battery last month, "Yuasa" wet type battery rm220 + GST. Plus trade in my old battery rm20
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 29 2015, 07:36 AM)
What's the speed when u hit the cow? Kampung roads isit?

Ya you are lucky cuz u bought a good car LOL.
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i forget,,,, shhould be 100-110... otw from kuantan to johor....village roads
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 29 2015, 11:22 AM)
wow, persona front also as tough as volvo 240?
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Hi guys, i been introduced this bmw super power engine oil @ kota damansara
http://moto-oil.co.uk/bmw-5w-40-super-power-oil-longlife-98
i wonder how this engine oil perform? as the sales person told me this engine oil able to last for 15k km, and its make your engine sounds more quiet.
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 30 2015, 01:04 AM)
Hi guys, i been introduced this bmw super power engine oil @ kota damansara
http://moto-oil.co.uk/bmw-5w-40-super-power-oil-longlife-98
i wonder how this engine oil perform? as the sales person told me this engine oil able to last for 15k km, and its make your engine sounds more quiet.
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how much is the oil?
even if the bmw oil can lasts for 15k km, can proton oil filter lasts that long? or you plan to just change the oil filter every 5k km and top-up for minor oil lost during the oil filter change process?
last time my audi oil filter specifically written can lasts for 30k km.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 30 2015, 09:28 AM)
how much is the oil?
even if the bmw oil can lasts for 15k km, can proton oil filter lasts that long? or you plan to just change the oil filter every 5k km and top-up for minor oil lost during the oil filter change process?
last time my audi oil filter specifically written can lasts for 30k km.
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rm50 per liter
not sure about the filter able to last that long, what interest me is it not very expensive, normal semi syn oil arnd rm110, so if this oil able to last longer, i think it still worth the price smile.gif
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 30 2015, 10:17 AM)
rm50 per liter
not sure about the filter able to last that long, what interest me is it not very expensive, normal semi syn oil arnd rm110, so if this oil able to last longer, i think it still worth the price smile.gif
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fuiyoo, rm200 for 4 litre.
i bought the aeon topvalue fully syn oil for rm99, somemore it got the genuine api sn certified logo. brows.gif
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Guys,

Any recomand for timing belt? currently im seeing Gates & Bosch in the market, Bosch seems to be cheaper, is it good for it? or any other recomand brand?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 30 2015, 11:00 AM)
fuiyoo, rm200 for 4 litre.
i bought the aeon topvalue fully syn oil for rm99, somemore it got the genuine api sn certified logo.  brows.gif
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thats cheap!
i always send to workshop for service, normally they charge me rm110 for semi syn.
but if u buy from aeon means u do service yourself?
next time i need to learn how to service myself too
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 30 2015, 11:57 AM)
thats cheap!
i always send to workshop for service, normally they charge me rm110 for semi syn.
but if u buy from aeon means u do service yourself?
next time i need to learn how to service myself too
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you can always buy the engine oil that you want and bring to workshop to change, unless they don't allow.
if you want, can even buy the oil filter together with engine oil

i always bring my own engine oil to the workshop
so they charge me labor + oil filter

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 30 2015, 11:57 AM)
thats cheap!
i always send to workshop for service, normally they charge me rm110 for semi syn.
but if u buy from aeon means u do service yourself?
next time i need to learn how to service myself too
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i bring engine oil and oil filter to workshop, they charge rm15-20 depend boss around or not, you get what i mean? brows.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 30 2015, 01:09 PM)
i bring engine oil and oil filter to workshop, they charge rm15-20 depend boss around or not, you get what i mean? brows.gif
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anyone knows PE got rev limiter?
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 30 2015, 09:10 PM)
anyone knows PE got rev limiter?
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Got. 7k
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 27 2015, 01:32 PM)
Planning to upgrade brake system again.

Next Stage
VR 4 twin pot brake caliper
Brake pad
Disc rotor with drilled.

Lower arm might need to change if doesnt fit.

Currently stage upgraded
Brake servo double layer evo 5
Cross and drilled disc rotor
Bendix Metal King Titanium brake pad
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wow...

how much usually labor cost for changing front brake pads ?

mine-->
i.Brake servo double layer evo 5
ii.Bendix Ultimate front brake pad - bought it, not yet install
iii. ? hmm.gif
iv. ? hmm.gif

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My first impression of Ezy Garage wasn't really good cause of how it looked. It's quite small, not very noticeable cause the signboard is barely visible although it's just beside a badly maintained road and a car wash. The car working platform was made out of wood which wasn't really secured, and the expert looks like a foreigner with his fair skin, and the tiga suku pants. As it turns out, that guy is actually a Malay and he's from Penang, and he is very experienced with disc conversions because he wasn't struggling with anything at all. The only thing that caused the job to be over 4 hours long is because he wanted a better handbrake cable, and the spare parts shop had to hunt for it. The job would have otherwise taken just about 1 and a half hours or so.

A few photos from the brake job at Ezy Garage:

Disc brake system
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The caliper, which based on what the mechanic said, is for the CK, GSR, Mivec or something. I asked for the rear calipers to be painted black. The caliper also acts as the parking brake. It is reasonably strong, but it could be better. The handbrake was adjusted to max out at 5 clicks. It can be adjusted to be tighter but I want to make sure that the pads are not riding on the rotors when they're not engaged. Maybe the handbrake will become stronger once the brake pads get bedded in.

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The drum brakes that were taken out. The reason why my rear right brake failed is because the brake lining came off. The paint of the drum was also heavily corroded since brake fluid was leaking, which is surprising cause the wheel cylinders got replaced just about a year ago. grumble.gif I'm happy to finally see the drum brakes disappear from my car.
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fuhh so nice, done already,
so do you satisfied with changing form drum brake to disc brake for rear brake system?

any significant improvement of braking power ?
hmm.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 30 2015, 09:10 PM)
anyone knows PE got rev limiter?
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 30 2015, 09:25 PM)
Got. 7k
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rev limit on 7.2k ( no gear )

i tried with gear can rev until 7.5k and still can go , but i dint try. tested it accidentally.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 30 2015, 10:50 PM)
wow...

how much usually labor cost for changing front brake pads ?

mine-->
i.Brake servo double layer evo 5
ii.Bendix Ultimate front brake pad - bought it, not yet install
iii. ?  hmm.gif
iv. ?  hmm.gif

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changing brake pad labour will be rm 30 max. some will higher cuz cut throat.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 30 2015, 09:25 PM)
Got. 7k
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Dec 30 2015, 11:44 PM)
rev limit on 7.2k ( no gear )

i tried with gear can rev until 7.5k and still can go , but i dint try. tested it accidentally.
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sure bo? wanna test 0-100 sprint.. but the throttle is so delay that when i clutch in it will over rev... sweat.gif

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Went to nestum shop change my front tyres to C-Drive 2 yesterday.

Bought Brembo Disc Brake and also Brake Pad and bring along and ask them to help me change also.

End up when I see my existing disc, it was the old disc(stock that comes since I got my car first day, 3 years ago. (according to the condition la)

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Left is new from Brembo, right is the old one.

Now this is proven that the shop I went in TTDI just cheated me over RM200 over a "New Disc Brake"

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Remember previously I posted my car bumper kena tayar celup? Just changed to a new one, painted, including workmanship cost me rm500+ , goddammit!


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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 30 2015, 10:56 PM)
fuhh so nice, done already,
so do you satisfied with changing form drum brake to disc brake for rear brake system?

any significant improvement of braking power ?
hmm.gif  brows.gif
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Quite a fair bit I would say. Tekan sikit then makan already. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 31 2015, 04:11 PM)
sure bo? wanna test 0-100 sprint.. but the throttle is so delay that when i clutch in it will over rev...  sweat.gif
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Tak tahu ooo I am driving an Auto. I accidentally went past 6.5K RPM a week ago cause I stuck the car in first gear for acceleration. I just remember that mine seem to have maxed out around 7K when I wasn't in gear and I pressed the pedal.

QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 31 2015, 04:13 PM)
Went to nestum shop change my front tyres to C-Drive 2 yesterday.

Bought Brembo Disc Brake and also Brake Pad and bring along and ask them to help me change also.

End up when I see my existing disc, it was the old disc(stock that comes since I got my car first day, 3 years ago. (according to the condition la)

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Left is new from Brembo, right is the old one.

Now this is proven that the shop I went in TTDI just cheated me over RM200 over a "New Disc Brake"
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hmm.gif Did you look at the brakes when you changed it at the shop at TTDI? hmm.gif It's normal for the disc rotors to turn rusty especially if you always wash your wheels. My front rotors which have been used for less than 10,000KM looks the same.

*Less than 15k or 10k, forgot.

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 31 2015, 04:13 PM)
Went to nestum shop change my front tyres to C-Drive 2 yesterday.

Bought Brembo Disc Brake and also Brake Pad and bring along and ask them to help me change also.

End up when I see my existing disc, it was the old disc(stock that comes since I got my car first day, 3 years ago. (according to the condition la)

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Left is new from Brembo, right is the old one.

Now this is proven that the shop I went in TTDI just cheated me over RM200 over a "New Disc Brake"
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what's wrong with the old 1? i see the thickness almost similar with the new? isn't still usable? if got noise perhaps can do disc skimming?
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 31 2015, 05:38 PM)
Quite a fair bit I would say. Tekan sikit then makan already. biggrin.gif
Tak tahu ooo I am driving an Auto. I accidentally went past 6.5K RPM a week ago cause I stuck the car in first gear for acceleration. I just remember that mine seem to have maxed out around 7K when I wasn't in gear and I pressed the pedal.
hmm.gif Did you look at the brakes when you changed it at the shop at TTDI? hmm.gif It's normal for the disc rotors to turn rusty especially if you always wash your wheels. My front rotors which have been used for less than 10,000KM looks the same.

*Less than 15k or 10k, forgot.
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Well, blame me for too trusting peoples. I put my car and the shop and ask the mechanic to help me change it and I walk back to office, 3 mins walk.

My stock disc done skimming 1 and a half years ago due to screeching noise. That's after 2 years I got my car and it doesn't looks rusty like this at all.

Earlier this year, I felt my front wheel got problem again. Upon sending in to check, this mechanic reco for disc brake change. So I go ahead and do it. Since skimming will only last me for 6 months or less.

After changed, 3 months later, the same problem come again and that's where I started to think that he had me scammed Liao.

ADD : This is not the only thing he scammed me lol. My front radiator fan's case makes loud noise like the fan is hitting something. Sent to this same mechanic and he ask me change the motor. Few weeks later, the same noise come back and I decided to send it to different mechanic. Upon checking only know that there's no problem with the fan, but the its the case mount problem(I think the mechanic say something about clips). Slot some span into the affected area and problem solved. Some more FOC, LOL

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 31 2015, 04:13 PM)
Went to nestum shop change my front tyres to C-Drive 2 yesterday.

Bought Brembo Disc Brake and also Brake Pad and bring along and ask them to help me change also.

End up when I see my existing disc, it was the old disc(stock that comes since I got my car first day, 3 years ago. (according to the condition la)

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so how the performance of new brembo disc comparing to stock disc brake? hmm.gif
how much did u paid for 1 set front brake?
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Quite a fair bit I would say. Tekan sikit then makan already. biggrin.gif
Tak tahu ooo I am driving an Auto. I accidentally went past 6.5K RPM a week ago cause I stuck the car in first gear for acceleration. I just remember that mine seem to have maxed out around 7K when I wasn't in gear and I pressed the pedal.
hmm.gif Did you look at the brakes when you changed it at the shop at TTDI? hmm.gif It's normal for the disc rotors to turn rusty especially if you always wash your wheels. My front rotors which have been used for less than 10,000KM looks the same.

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Got both of my front wheel bearings replaced days ago. It was quiet initially, but now the right wheel seems to be making some high pitched noise after some time of driving and I slow down to below 40KM/H. I'm suspecting it to be the bearing noise since it sounds like metal squealing.

What could be the reason it's squealing? Defective bearing? Bad installation? Not enough grease packed into the bearing during installation?

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so how the performance of new brembo disc comparing to stock disc brake?  hmm.gif
how much did u paid for 1 set front brake?
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Im using persona elegance 1/6AT . Is it good if i use Helix 5w-40 black oil for my engine ?
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Im using persona elegance 1/6AT . Is it good if i use Helix 5w-40 black oil for my engine ?
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Tried HX5, HX7, and Helix Ultra Pure Plus. The engine is noisy and rough with HX5 and HX7. It was fairly smooth with Pure Plus and slightly quieter as well.
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Tried HX5, HX7, and Helix Ultra Pure Plus. The engine is noisy and rough with HX5 and HX7. It was fairly smooth with Pure Plus and slightly quieter as well.
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All the while im using hx5 semi syn, just went to tesco bought a ultra fully syn 5w-40. Not too sure whether it fits my car. But so far the semi synthetic serve me well. haha
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 31 2015, 04:13 PM)
Went to nestum shop change my front tyres to C-Drive 2 yesterday.

Bought Brembo Disc Brake and also Brake Pad and bring along and ask them to help me change also.

End up when I see my existing disc, it was the old disc(stock that comes since I got my car first day, 3 years ago. (according to the condition la)

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Left is new from Brembo, right is the old one.

Now this is proven that the shop I went in TTDI just cheated me over RM200 over a "New Disc Brake"
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sorry. where is this nestum shop u guys always talked about?
currently need to change 2 tyres, how much for a economy 15" tyres now?

all previous changing also due to accident and change at nearby store, felt like kenak chop...
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sorry. where is this nestum shop u guys always talked about?
currently need to change 2 tyres, how much for a economy 15" tyres now?

all previous changing also due to accident and change at nearby store, felt like kenak chop...
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Need advice here,

I have been driving my persona since 6 years , never change before my timing belt. But my car mileage is only 36,000 KM. I usually travel in a short distance, never go out station. Is it advisable to change my timing belt?
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Need advice here,

I have been driving my persona since 6 years , never change before my timing belt. But my car mileage is only 36,000 KM. I usually travel in a short distance, never go out station. Is it advisable to change my timing belt?
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What's your expected budget? And how much you pay per donut?
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i doesnt need any much feature, a stock goodyear nct5 195/60/15 is good enough for me. Today asked a shop at subang ss15, selling at RM240 per donut.
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i doesnt need any much feature, a stock goodyear nct5 195/60/15 is good enough for me. Today asked a shop at subang ss15, selling at RM240 per donut.
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i doesnt need any much feature, a stock goodyear nct5 195/60/15 is good enough for me. Today asked a shop at subang ss15, selling at RM240 per donut.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 2 2016, 12:20 PM)
New one of course felt more quiet and smoother journey lo. And no more extreme shaking on steering when braking.

Brake Pad - RM130
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Hi all,

What tyre you all been using right now? I'm currently using Yokohama C drive 2 and it almost wear off.

Planning to change CC5 but not sure is it better than CD2. What is the current market price now for CC5 and CD2?

Any advice?
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240 per piece better find xm2 from Michelin.
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QUOTE(waiket @ Jan 4 2016, 10:52 PM)
i doesnt need any much feature, a stock goodyear nct5 195/60/15 is good enough for me. Today asked a shop at subang ss15, selling at RM240 per donut.
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NCT5 got so expensive? might as well get Michelin or Bridgestone

QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 5 2016, 08:56 AM)
Hi all,

What tyre you all been using right now? I'm currently using Yokohama C drive 2 and it almost wear off.

Planning to change CC5 but not sure is it better than CD2. What is the current market price now for CC5 and CD2?

Any advice?
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Mich PS3 RM235/donut. alignment extra RM25. my rear tyres are CD2.
but PS3 is 195/55 and CD2 is 195/60. so my front now a little bit lower but i cannot notice also. by calculation should be 10mm lower.

Inspira thread macam condemning CC5 saying sampah..the few posts that i read la, others tatau laugh.gif

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xm2 not bad so far for me, good in dry and wet, next gonna try bridgestone
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My New Persona brake is having inconsistent performance, sometime it will feel some vibration while braking, sometime it won't. All at about same speed.
And sometime when brake at higher speed, it seems like the brake wasn't sharp enough and will drag very long way to slow down.
It feel like exactly what I have with my old Pesona with rear drum brake, aren't new disc brake with ABS will have better performance?

Also, found the stock Silverstone tyre was very loud compare to my old XM2, dunno if go exchange will cost a lot or not.

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try toyo nano energy 3. not bad and quiet too.
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Same here, using toyo neo, quiet and softer compared to stock nct5 which is rough and noisy.
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My New Persona brake is having inconsistent performance, sometime it will feel some vibration while braking, sometime it won't. All at about same speed.
And sometime when brake at higher speed, it seems like the brake wasn't sharp enough and will drag very long way to slow down.
It feel like exactly what I have with my old Pesona with rear drum brake, aren't new disc brake with ABS will have better performance?

Also, found the stock Silverstone tyre was very loud compare to my old XM2, dunno if go exchange will cost a lot or not.
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maybe because higher temperature? i did experienced that after downhill from karak in a slightly faster pace.
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jan 5 2016, 11:36 AM)
maybe because higher temperature? i did experienced that after downhill from karak in a slightly faster pace.
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My old persona also having same issue, but after I change to new disc and also change the brake pad to Bandix, it immediately improve a lot.
but I thought new persona had make improvement on the brake since they throw in ABS n all disc brake.
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QUOTE(1133 @ Jan 5 2016, 11:39 AM)
My old persona also having same issue, but after I change to new disc and also change the brake pad to Bandix, it immediately improve a lot.
but I thought new persona had make improvement on the brake since they throw in ABS n all disc brake.
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persona standard? ori pad?

i did experienced that on ori pads. didn't go long stretch downhill after changing so i'm not sure.
the discs should be the same as the old versions. ABS helps with braking, doesn't mean the temperature won't hike up.
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QUOTE(1133 @ Jan 5 2016, 11:14 AM)
My New Persona brake is having inconsistent performance, sometime it will feel some vibration while braking, sometime it won't. All at about same speed.
And sometime when brake at higher speed, it seems like the brake wasn't sharp enough and will drag very long way to slow down.
It feel like exactly what I have with my old Pesona with rear drum brake, aren't new disc brake with ABS will have better performance?

Also, found the stock Silverstone tyre was very loud compare to my old XM2, dunno if go exchange will cost a lot or not.
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I think ABS does not help improve the overall braking performance. It will help only if you're in a situation where the tyres don't have enough grip and lock up while braking. If I'm not mistaken, the Silverstone Kruizers aren't particularly famous for being that good anyway other than being relatively quiet compared to tyres around its range.

Consider changing the brake pads and tyres.

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My evo 6 brake servo also seems to have already "warmed up". No longer goes crazy stiff after a short press. Now it's much easier to operate and get very strong braking power. The new rear discs are also a really nice addition.
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Guys,

There is 2 workshop qoute me timing belt, one is saiko and the other one is gates. Anyone know whats their different? Which is more suitable and reliable for persona?

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 4 2016, 11:26 PM)
240 per piece better find xm2 from Michelin.
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lol, i really not familiar with tyres (spec nor pricing).. all the while just use goodyear, silverstone and sime tyres (just changing depend what stock they have.. been paid for RM 260 per pc)
just said silverstone felt same as goodyear nct5... sime tyres really a NO for.. too noisy and doesnt have much grip.

except toyo neo 3, what else tyres u guys could recommend?? something not more than RM200?
looking around at those old price list post.. many are from WH tyres at Kota Kemuning.. really that cheap? found out is about a 15min ride from my HQ.

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QUOTE(waiket @ Jan 5 2016, 08:43 PM)
lol, i really not familiar with tyres (spec nor pricing).. all the while just use goodyear, silverstone and sime tyres (just changing depend what stock they have.. been paid for RM 260 per pc)
just said silverstone felt same as goodyear nct5... sime tyres really a NO for.. too noisy and doesnt have much grip.

except toyo neo 3, what else tyres u guys could recommend?? something not more than RM200?
looking around at those old price list post.. many are from WH tyres at Kota Kemuning.. really that cheap? found out is about a 15min ride from my HQ.
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i just changed my front tyre with Toyo nanoenergy at hin leong klang, cost rm160 + gst per pcs.

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QUOTE(waiket @ Jan 5 2016, 08:43 PM)
lol, i really not familiar with tyres (spec nor pricing).. all the while just use goodyear, silverstone and sime tyres (just changing depend what stock they have.. been paid for RM 260 per pc)
just said silverstone felt same as goodyear nct5... sime tyres really a NO for.. too noisy and doesnt have much grip.

except toyo neo 3, what else tyres u guys could recommend?? something not more than RM200?
looking around at those old price list post.. many are from WH tyres at Kota Kemuning.. really that cheap? found out is about a 15min ride from my HQ.
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You might be able to get C-Drive 2 for around RM200 per piece. hmm.gif
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do any1 of u experiece small dent at car body??? any way to fix it??
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jan 5 2016, 10:36 AM)
NCT5 got so expensive? might as well get Michelin or Bridgestone
Mich PS3 RM235/donut. alignment extra RM25. my rear tyres are CD2.
but PS3 is 195/55 and CD2 is 195/60. so my front now a little bit lower but i cannot notice also. by calculation should be 10mm lower.

Inspira thread macam condemning CC5 saying sampah..the few posts that i read la, others tatau laugh.gif
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where is this ps3 235/donut? nestum shop also?

using advan db now.
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QUOTE(fixgd @ Jan 6 2016, 12:09 AM)
where is this ps3 235/donut? nestum shop also?

using advan db now.
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nope. seng heng @ klang
friend's friend got the price for me
i'm not sure how much per donut for outsiders but of course u can nego kaw kaw la

advan db macam gooding hmm.gif
but no 15 inch right?
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jan 6 2016, 10:12 AM)
nope. seng heng @ klang
friend's friend got the price for me
i'm not sure how much per donut for outsiders but of course u can nego kaw kaw la

advan db macam gooding hmm.gif
but no 15 inch right?
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1k for 4pcs
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QUOTE(fixgd @ Jan 6 2016, 02:23 PM)
using 15 now. from nestum shop
1k for 4pcs
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195/55?
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195/60 if im not mistaken (80% confident) haha.
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jan 6 2016, 10:12 AM)
nope. seng heng @ klang
friend's friend got the price for me
i'm not sure how much per donut for outsiders but of course u can nego kaw kaw la

advan db macam gooding hmm.gif
but no 15 inch right?
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Got. Up to 195/65R15 if I'm not mistaken.

So far so good. Quiet, but not enough to hide the fact that the Persona's soundproofing is not good. Its grip hasn't let me down so far. Dry and wet grip is very good. biggrin.gif
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Also, just did a DIY on the steering rack bushing. Passenger side bushing is really easy to replace. You will need to get under the car to pull the driver side's bushing out unless you have really good grip and strength and can pull it out from the top. The bolts that secure the metal plates of the bushings can be accessed from the engine bay with the air filter housing taken out. I'm not sure if it's the same for Personas with ABS though. hmm.gif.

New driver side bushing was quite hard to get in because of the way it goes around the steering rack. Compared to the old one it is in the "D-" shape. " - " indicates the point where each end of the bushing meets. The ends of the old bushing meet at the top. Maybe it's just the driver side bushing I got that was designed like this.

P/S: Old driver side bushing is as soft as tofu. Passenger side bushing is still ok. I went out for a short drive just now and the alignment seems to be unaffected.

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Got. Up to 195/65R15 if I'm not mistaken.

So far so good. Quiet, but not enough to hide the fact that the Persona's soundproofing is not good. Its grip hasn't let me down so far. Dry and wet grip is very good. biggrin.gif
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any recomand ATF oil brand for persona?

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Original Proton SP3, Genuine Mitsubishi Diaqueen SP3, or synthetic ATF like Petro Canada Duradrive MV and Mobil 1 ATF.
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Original Proton SP3, Genuine Mitsubishi Diaqueen SP3, or synthetic ATF like Petro Canada Duradrive MV and Mobil 1 ATF.
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altho I'm using Toyota Type-4 ATF lol, workshop say all other outside workshop do the same unless proton authorized service cente
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altho I'm using Toyota Type-4 ATF lol, workshop say all other outside workshop do the same unless proton authorized service cente
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my last service with proton, they give me STP ATF oil instead of proton one. Hmmm any different ?
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QUOTE(kausar @ Jan 6 2016, 05:19 PM)
not agree with u , mine soundproofing seem good enough.
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and see compare with what also

i agree that it sucks laugh.gif
not very bad but sucks
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altho I'm using Toyota Type-4 ATF lol, workshop say all other outside workshop do the same unless proton authorized service cente
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yes can use type 4 toyota atf. long term , inner part of gearbox might be damage.

I used 1 time b4, but i switch back to proton atf sp3
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Jan 6 2016, 08:52 PM)
yes can use type 4 toyota atf. long term , inner part of gearbox might be damage.

I used 1 time b4, but i switch back to proton atf sp3
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better stick with proton SP III ATF
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recently changed my both front and rear default disc brake(bosch) to bendix,very satisfy, no more dusty problem and the annoying sound when stepping on the brake
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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ Jan 7 2016, 09:11 PM)
recently changed my both front and rear default disc brake(bosch) to bendix,very satisfy, no more dusty problem and the annoying sound when stepping on the brake
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you will notice zero to none brake dust. laugh.gif
me from once cleaning rim every 1-2 week when on stock proton bosch, to now maybe once every 1-2 month... but too bad the rim no longer shinny anymore as the brake dust already baked last time.

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Can we conclude that the noisy brake is because of the low quality stock brake pads? A few of us got no more brake noises after changing to better brake pads.
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Jan 8 2016, 11:10 AM)
Can we conclude that the noisy brake is because of the low quality stock brake pads? A few of us got no more brake noises after changing to better brake pads.
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i feel the rotors are also part of the equation hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ Jan 7 2016, 09:11 PM)
recently changed my both front and rear default disc brake(bosch) to bendix,very satisfy, no more dusty problem and the annoying sound when stepping on the brake
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Which Bendix model you use? Ceramic type? and price?
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jan 8 2016, 11:15 AM)
i feel the rotors are also part of the equation  hmm.gif
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But my problem solved after changing brake pads. Rotor contributes to the noise too? I'm not really sure.
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Hi guys, is 0w30 full synthetic ok? will change it during my svc tis mth. petronas syntium
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QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Jan 8 2016, 05:23 PM)
Hi guys, is 0w30 full synthetic ok? will change it during my svc tis mth. petronas syntium
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can no problem, if got oil leak problem, just change to 40 next time
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 7 2016, 11:09 PM)
you will notice zero to none brake dust.  laugh.gif
me from once cleaning rim every 1-2 week when on stock proton bosch, to now maybe once every 1-2 month... but too bad the rim no longer shinny anymore as the brake dust already baked last time.
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i feel u bro, but luckily mine still shine like default, one thing i noticed is that, last time with default disc brake(bosch), i have to step harder compare to this bendix i'm using right now

QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 8 2016, 11:52 AM)
Which Bendix model you use? Ceramic type? and price?
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BENDIX METAL KING bro, as my family business is selling spare parts, so i'm getting it on my cost price, if u really intend to try, pm me, gt plenty of stock biggrin.gif biggrin.gif good things must share, obvious changed not just the dusty part, braking systems seems to be more practical and secure, Metal King extend your disc rotor life span too
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QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Jan 8 2016, 05:23 PM)
Hi guys, is 0w30 full synthetic ok? will change it during my svc tis mth. petronas syntium
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i'll suggest bro you to use 10w/40, semi synthetic will do seriously, for high cam engine better use xw/"40", more tahan panas bro
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Jan 8 2016, 12:10 PM)
But my problem solved after changing brake pads. Rotor contributes to the noise too? I'm not really sure.
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rotor and disc brake if dust get into it, it will caused the annoying noise too....but if your rotor is cheap default one, you will still get some dust even though u changed to a better brake pads, it shows that racing disc rotor+racing disc brake seems to hv lesser or nearly zero dust compare to default parts
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Cheap Brake pad. lil poor performance. More dust , when the brake have dust will cost some annoying noise.

Good brake pad will also cause sound. especially the ceramic type brake pad.


Rotor doesnt really will cause the sound. Mostly is the brake pad.
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There is some seller and shop is selling below 200. But need to put some effort to get it.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Jan 8 2016, 05:45 PM)
can no problem, if got oil leak problem, just change to 40 next time
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i'll suggest bro you to use 10w/40, semi synthetic will do seriously, for high cam engine better use xw/"40", more tahan panas bro
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I run highway quite often. So was thinking fully synthetic. The svc centre I go have 2 kind 1 is 0w30 the other I forget already. I'm still new to car.not good on choosing which engine oil. I'll be svcing soon. Like 5 days from now. I choose 0w30 that time. They say is better of course is more exp( they earn more) that's y say its better.
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spareparts shops selling Proton ATF is it original? worry if its imitation.
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I feel my persona's steering and car vibrating when speed up to 130-140 and become not vibrating after 150.

Why is it like this?

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Sigh. grumble.gif New wheel bearings, new problem. The wong wong sound between 60-80km/h has disappeared completely, but now after some time of driving, the bearings will exhibit a high pitch noise/wheee noise below 40km/h. I was told by the experts that the noise is common with some NTN bearings, and should disappear after enough mileage has been racked up.

QUOTE(aki^what @ Jan 11 2016, 03:42 PM)
spareparts shops selling Proton ATF is it original? worry if its imitation.
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If you're worried, buy it from an authorised Proton dealer. I dunno how to differentiate original and fake ATF. laugh.gif

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I feel my persona's steering and car vibrating when speed up to 130-140 and become not vibrating after 150.

Why is it like this?

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Tyre not completely round / absorber mounting rosak / rim problem.

Go check your absorber mountings, and if they are spoilt, change them, then only re-do the balancing. Do high speed balancing if needed.
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Hi guys, my PE exhaust has fuel-rich smell.. You guys have any idea what cause this??

Fuel pump rosak?? Fuek injector rosak?? ECU mapping?? Please advise..
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Hi guys, my PE exhaust has fuel-rich smell.. You guys have any idea what cause this??

Fuel pump rosak?? Fuek injector rosak?? ECU mapping?? Please advise..
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During first start of the day / cold start? During operation at normal temperature?

I suspect the O2 Sensor.
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Using Proton sp3 ATF no problems. Now already 22k yet changed my atf.

I've 3rd party ATF cooler
Hayden Rapid Cool
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Using Proton sp3 ATF no problems. Now already 22k yet changed my atf.

I've 3rd party ATF cooler
Hayden Rapid Cool
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ATF cooler better for AT or Manual? laugh.gif
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ATF cooler better for AT or Manual?  laugh.gif
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Only AT have atf cooler.
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After some time of driving with the new steering rack bushes (silicone), I have to say that it's much easier to hold the cornering line now. Previously my car would sometimes corner well, sometimes wobble a bit midway during corner, and sometimes start going wide. With the new steering rack bushes however, the wobble and straying seems to have disappeared. It didn't solve my random pedal area kok kok noise though.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 13 2016, 08:03 PM)
After some time of driving with the new steering rack bushes (silicone), I have to say that it's much easier to hold the cornering line now. Previously my car would sometimes corner well, sometimes wobble a bit midway during corner, and sometimes start going wide. With the new steering rack bushes however, the wobble and straying seems to have disappeared. It didn't solve my random pedal area kok kok noise though.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 11 2016, 08:54 PM)
Sigh. grumble.gif New wheel bearings, new problem. The wong wong sound between 60-80km/h has disappeared completely, but now after some time of driving, the bearings will exhibit a high pitch noise/wheee noise below 40km/h. I was told by the experts that the noise is common with some NTN bearings, and should disappear after enough mileage has been racked up.
If you're worried, buy it from an authorised Proton dealer. I dunno how to differentiate original and fake ATF. laugh.gif
Tyre not completely round / absorber mounting rosak / rim problem.

Go check your absorber mountings, and if they are spoilt, change them, then only re-do the balancing. Do high speed balancing if needed.
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Hi, recently i also just changed both front wheel bearings(NTN too), it does has a little "homing" sound, but it gone after a few days.

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where do you change it? at Zordaq Bangi?
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I did the change myself since I had a lot of space to work with, plus I wanted to save RM60. Since your car is the SV model, I think you will have to get underneath the car to get access to both of the bushings since the ABS module is located just above the passenger side bushing. If you don't have the tools and time, get the workshop to do it for you, and maybe get higher quality/performance bushings (e.g PU bush) while you're at it since you'll have to pay for the labour.

QUOTE(IceBikers @ Jan 14 2016, 12:17 PM)
Hi, recently i also just changed both front wheel bearings(NTN too), it does has a little "homing" sound, but it gone after a few days.
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I see. I hope mine disappears soon.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 14 2016, 04:40 PM)
I did the change myself since I had a lot of space to work with, plus I wanted to save RM60. Since your car is the SV model, I think you will have to get underneath the car to get access to both of the bushings since the ABS module is located just above the passenger side bushing. If you don't have the tools and time, get the workshop to do it for you, and maybe get higher quality/performance bushings (e.g PU bush) while you're at it since you'll have to pay for the labour.
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thanks for reply, my SV almost 2 years already, should i go change for new steering rack bushes (silicone)?

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the mechanic said my stock brake pads still in good condition

however, done changing front brake pads to Bendix Ultimate,
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Jan 14 2016, 04:52 PM)
thanks for reply, my SV almost 2 years already, should i go change for new steering rack bushes (silicone)?

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the mechanic said my stock brake pads still in good condition

however, done changing front brake pads to Bendix Ultimate,
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depends on ur condition, mine 6 years never change the bushes laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Jan 14 2016, 04:52 PM)
thanks for reply, my SV almost 2 years already, should i go change for new steering rack bushes (silicone)?

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the mechanic said my stock brake pads still in good condition

however, done changing front brake pads to Bendix Ultimate,
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Well... It depends on you. If you feel that your car doesn't handle as good as it used to, changing the steering rack bushings may help. I take the same corners fairly often and have to say that the steering feels good so far.

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Jan 14 2016, 04:52 PM)
thanks for reply, my SV almost 2 years already, should i go change for new steering rack bushes (silicone)?

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the mechanic said my stock brake pads still in good condition

however, done changing front brake pads to Bendix Ultimate,
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Way to check worn/ faulty steering bush.

Get someone seat at the driver seat. turn the steering.
( you check on engine bay, see the steering rack , whether got move left and right or not )
if yes, then is faulty.
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anyone having problem with their alarm? mine will active automatically when its raining..

i notice it will auto activate if i wind down a bit on passenger window.

also if raining whn im driving the car door symbol at meter will light on. also whn going through uneven road

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Aiks i see wrong or the sc I always go change the type of full synthetic oil they use. Previously I rmb was 0w30 now best is 5w40. I'll just settle for the 5w40
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anyone car wiper sound 'tak tak'(mechanical) during wiping?
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 14 2016, 06:38 PM)
Well... It depends on you. If you feel that your car doesn't handle as good as it used to, changing the steering rack bushings may help. I take the same corners fairly often and have to say that the steering feels good so far.
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while back to my hometown, usually i drove my dad's Vios J year 2009 and my cousin's Vios E year 2010/2011,
i can feel that both Vios not as good as my SV in cornering and handling. brows.gif
still satisfied with current condition of my SV



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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Jan 14 2016, 07:09 PM)
Way to check worn/ faulty steering bush.

Get someone seat at the driver seat. turn the steering.
( you check on engine bay, see the steering rack , whether got move left and right or not )
if yes, then is faulty.
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got sample photos for steering bush and location of steering rack ? thanks

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anyone car wiper sound 'tak tak'(mechanical) during wiping?
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tested 10 persona , 10 persona also have that sound. wiper
motor sound
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tested 10 persona , 10 persona also have that sound. wiper
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 14 2016, 10:40 PM)
anyone having problem with their alarm? mine will active automatically when its raining..

i notice it will auto activate if i wind down a bit on passenger window.

also if raining whn im driving the car door symbol at meter will light on. also whn going through uneven road
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Open each doors individually and check to see which one does not cause the door ajar light to appear when it is open. If all of the doors seem fine, close all the doors and play around with the roof light switch and see if it causes the door ajar light to light up.

My roof light's switch had contact issues and would occasionally connect in such a way that the door ajar light will come on. If your alarm is armed, it will sound.

QUOTE(IceBikers @ Jan 15 2016, 09:22 AM)
anyone car wiper sound 'tak tak'(mechanical) during wiping?
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Is it really loud? Mine doesn't have any abnormal sound. Only the soft relay tik sound.


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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 15 2016, 11:33 AM)
Open each doors individually and check to see which one does not cause the door ajar light to appear when it is open. If all of the doors seem fine, close all the doors and play around with the roof light switch and see if it causes the door ajar light to light up.

My roof light's switch had contact issues and would occasionally connect in such a way that the door ajar light will come on. If your alarm is armed, it will sound.
Is it really loud? Mine doesn't have any abnormal sound. Only the soft relay tik sound.
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not the relay sound, and already get used to it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
the tak tak sound is loud n came from outside

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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Jan 15 2016, 02:56 PM)
not the relay sound, and already get used to it  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
the tak tak sound is loud n came from outside
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I see. If it isn't related to your wiper blades/arms (e.g wiper arm incorrectly adjusted and therefore causing the wiper blade to hit the edge of the windscreen), it could be the wiper linkage, or the motor itself. The wiper motor can be easily accessed from the engine bay, but to get access to the wiper linkage, you'll need to remove the plastic piece that runs along the bottom of the windscreen. It is fairly easy cause you'll just need to pull out the black plastic screws from the engine bay and remove two screws located at each end of the plastic piece, then pry the plastic piece off which is held to the car by plastic clips which are also used for door panels.

Be careful when you buy aftermarket wiper linkage, cause I bought one once and the driver side wiper spindle (where the wiper arm is screwed on to) wasn't the right size, so the right wiper couldn't be installed properly. I managed to get a refund for it. Also, do note that there are plenty of sharp edges around.

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hi shifu's,

thinking of changing to a lighter flywheel for better acceleration. any advice? any shop recommendations which sell aftermarket/custom flywheel?

not much info in the forums about this, and I don't want to skim my original flywheel for obvious safety reasons.

Is it recommended to install lightweight flywheel with a lightened crank pulley together? some forumers said campro crankshaft fragile cannot install lightweight flywheel... o.o

any comments/advice is welcome smile.gif thanks.
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QUOTE(namele55777 @ Jan 15 2016, 05:17 PM)
hi shifu's,

thinking of changing to a lighter flywheel for better acceleration.  any advice?  any shop recommendations which sell aftermarket/custom flywheel?

not much info in the forums about this, and I don't want to skim my original flywheel for obvious safety reasons.

Is it recommended to install lightweight flywheel with a lightened crank pulley together?  some forumers said campro crankshaft fragile cannot install lightweight flywheel... o.o

any comments/advice is welcome smile.gif thanks.
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seldom listen people want to change lighten flywheel.

Change Light crank pully a lot people do that.
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 14 2016, 11:40 PM)
anyone having problem with their alarm? mine will active automatically when its raining..

i notice it will auto activate if i wind down a bit on passenger window.

also if raining whn im driving the car door symbol at meter will light on. also whn going through uneven road
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i have issue with the auto lock function, it will unlock itself once i hit the gas and lock if i hit the brakes. what is the cause of this? kinda annoys me but happen quite seldom
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Finally we can say goodbye to the Camtakpro laugh.gif. The new engines from Plotong look promising, but sadly the body of the Persona is going to be different and a segment down. IMO, the Persona Elegance H-Line looks very nice especially if the paint is in a good condition.

QUOTE(arayz @ Jan 18 2016, 01:54 PM)
i have issue with the auto lock function, it will unlock itself once i hit the gas and lock if i hit the brakes. what is the cause of this? kinda annoys me but happen quite seldom
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Wiring problem? hmm.gif The auto lock function is by default not linked to the throttle.
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My Driver Power Windows failing, and i'm not eligible for the Lifetime Warranty. Is it broken or can still fix with silicone spray?

Started few weeks back when i press auto down it will stuck 2/5 way need to press again to fully down, press up no problem but everytime stuck when it closes will close hard.

Just now same thing happened except now halfway up it doesn't go up, wind down wind up again still stuck halfway, need to use hand to assist the windows to close and when closed it closes really hard. I'm not sure is the motor broke or some gearing issue.

If repair should go back Proton or my usual mechanic? Roughly how much and how long it takes to repair? And if motor fault is there any new design or only have old design?

Also my car squeeks when i brake especially during cold/wet days, any issue with that?

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 18 2016, 05:17 PM)
Finally we can say goodbye to the Camtakpro laugh.gif. The new engines from Plotong look promising, but sadly the body of the Persona is going to be different and a segment down. IMO, the Persona Elegance H-Line looks very nice especially if the paint is in a good condition.
Wiring problem? hmm.gif The auto lock function is by default not linked to the throttle.
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TGDi in your persona soon? brows.gif

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