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post Jan 6 2016, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 6 2016, 04:12 PM)
Got. Up to 195/65R15 if I'm not mistaken.

So far so good. Quiet, but not enough to hide the fact that the Persona's soundproofing is not good. Its grip hasn't let me down so far. Dry and wet grip is very good. biggrin.gif
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not agree with u , mine soundproofing seem good enough.
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post Mar 11 2016, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(ivantancw @ Mar 11 2016, 05:23 PM)
Hi all the sifus out there, my persona se 2008 after switching off the engine the door wont auto unlock sometimes, may i know whats the problem? Anyone encountered this problem? Thanks in advance.
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not expert maybe wiring or central locking
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post Mar 21 2016, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 20 2016, 12:22 AM)
I mean total number of speed bumps is ranging 20-25, depends which route I take...  Usually I slow down to less than 20km/h, but still many cars like to tiong behind. I was wondering how frequent those speeder replace absorbers
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slow down is the best for absorber , mine change at 145km after 6 yrs using, sometime not speed bump , u have to avoid pothole even the smallest ur fist
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(J Camp @ Sep 13 2016, 09:36 PM)
yup..i feel the sv is much more silent than the PE b-line while driving.

not sure whether the engine is more silent or the sv model has better sound proofing.

another thing i notice about the engine characteristics.

when going uphill any slope..the b-line will rev up to 2.5k rpm and then drop back to search for a lower gear and then will go back up to 2.5k rpm.

while the sv would just rev to 3k rpm and then stay there until i reach the top of the slope.

both the cars are auto btw.

i wonder did p1 engineers tuned the engine in the sv model differently from the normal elegance model  hmm.gif
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my 2010 highline also quiet . if u service at p1 maybe u can get software update .
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post Dec 22 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Nov 23 2016, 02:14 PM)
Guys, the oil stain near Timing Belt cover is due to what issue?

Gasket on top and bottom of the engine also fix before. sad.gif

Anyone can share the experience?

Should I back to Proton or normal workshop? Less than 20k after change Timing belt last year!
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better look around the engine, sometime the rubber hose is loose and can see the leak, either change the clip that hold or re-position back.
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post Mar 9 2017, 02:20 PM

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recently change my battery, aircond spoil coz normal aircond blow at face but now can also feel at leg. What to do?
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post Mar 9 2017, 02:55 PM

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i think you might accidentally turned ur aircond knob to both face and leg. turn it back to face only. its the third knob below temperature
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nope the knob is at face mode, but air can still feels at legs, so damn cool. try using the obd tool but cannot find any code error.
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post Mar 10 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 10 2017, 10:34 AM)
encountered this problem on my gen2 before... the aircond control's memory messed-up, so need to reset it.
to do this, turn off your car with the aircond blower fan switching to off position (no fan out), ensure the aircond position is pointing to face only direction. Next, open front bonnet, locate the fuse box next to battery... after open the fuse box, you will notice there's one "special fuse" with fuse puller on it, that's the memory fuse... slightly pull it up (no need to pull out the whole fuse) for few seconds, then push it in (take the car key with you as afraid the alarm might trigger) . start the car, then switch on the aircond blower fan.
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any other side effect if pull the fuse? like invecs have to learn again / radio memory lost?
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post Mar 16 2017, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 16 2017, 03:21 PM)
what is the wiper size?

i went ACE there is 2 charts from different brand both give different sizes for L & R. do we follow exact size or based on brand sizing?
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i use 21 and 19.
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post Aug 10 2017, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Jul 18 2017, 11:16 PM)
Yes I bought Tesco fully synthetic for rm72 after discount and coupon via 11street.

I bought castrol semi rm85 , shell helix semi rm95 , both from Tesco. Quite cheap.
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Now at SC semi only RM100 than previous RM118
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post Aug 10 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 19 2017, 09:50 AM)
First time driving a Persona. I feel that the brakes aren't that efficient. Have to press A LOT to feel the braking. Is this normal? I've asked a few service centers and every auto mechanics say it's designed like that.
I don't think it's normal. (I've never driven a car with ABS. Poorfag  biggrin.gif )
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Thats true coz persona have heavier body. to get the best brake use bendix or ceramic pad and tyre in good conditions. i use bendix on all rear disc and front disc and stopping is best , never had to brake hard and rims more cleans.
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post Aug 10 2017, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 5 2017, 09:29 PM)
Whats the rough estimation for the cost of replacing all 4 suspensions/ struts?

I need to replace mine as they started to make funny noises and the car will sag a lot whenever im going through speed bumps.

Edit: Read through the first page of the topic and realized that my 2008 Persona suffered the IAFM problem too (Tak tak tak) sound, any other place/ way to fix it other than sending it to CoSE?
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mine too , heard proride standard is good oem. but saw somewhere blogger sell ori proton at rm450 for all absorber.
SC quote me rm850 for replacement iafm with labor cost. cost is rm550 for the iafm unit if buy at proton part. there some workshop can do it less than rm200 and some opt to use iriz iafm.
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post Aug 10 2017, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Aug 10 2017, 04:58 PM)
how do i know that i need to replace the IAFM?
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ur PE sound like truck. Do note that the sound occur frequently not just in morning. Please note too that the sound come from iafm unit not the purge valve. purge valve rosak also sound tak but much more lower.
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post Aug 21 2017, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Aug 21 2017, 05:27 PM)
want to check with all sifus, any problem going up and down genting?

my 2009 persona (bought second hand) never been up to genting before, recently I saw some members also having the engine suddenly died when going up genting (rpm constantly 3k-4k for 10-20 minutes), even those who servicing on time also have this problem, a bit phobia now since im going this weekend  sad.gif
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my persona can go genting (GPO only) even my iafm have tak tak sound. remember campro is high rev engine and best in climbing but dont go to redline often , can damage the engine.
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post Aug 23 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 23 2017, 02:22 PM)
Oh... that part, I changed twice already for 6 years car...  doh.gif

Change power steering oil? I also hardly change... few years once...  biggrin.gif
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power steering oil can check ownself , if hitam go change it
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post Aug 29 2017, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 28 2017, 12:05 AM)
Is it a must to fix the IAFM? I can see a lot of Personas running around with the tak tak tak sound (mine included).
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when the car is in motion the taktak sound is gone. if stationery can hear it sometime the sound gone.
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post Oct 6 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 6 2017, 03:35 AM)
Normal, the gearbox design. It's meant for engine braking preference over the fuel efficiency design, I not sure why Proton so like "amplifying" engine braking concept, even their newer gen car with CVT also playing with engine braking....
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persona is heavy so engine braking is better to help braking . early PE dont have engine braking but u have to put pressure when brake.
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post Oct 9 2017, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 6 2017, 06:48 PM)
No, I wasn't refer to the "hard force" downshifting engine braking method.. what I mean is like when you lift up throttle, the speed decreases faster than other cars while it still on same gear without downshifting... It feels more like a drag..
I'm on gen2 campro version, even without downshifting cruising downslope with 80km/h still feeling the speed decreases
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OK understand. as i said, early PE batch if u accelerate the speed and then release the car will still cruising . even if u go downhill the car will get faster(even if u release the throttle) but now the car will reduce it speed, right? its becoz PE is heavy and base and medium dont have the stopping power to stop the car earlier as highline have abs & disc. maybe the retuning in gearbox that making like engine braking feature to do this.
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post Oct 17 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(caesarx @ Oct 17 2017, 10:57 AM)
Last time i also do that to test FC, after that lazy already, so far I can see my FC getting higher to 8.5L/100km.
But the best i can get from highway driving at around 7.5L/100km, but why waste my time drive slow slow, better speed up and get home earlier, haha. now no more care about FC.
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to get the best fuel calculation , us should use ron97 and reset the throttle body. im too lazy to calculate but fill full tank and go KL - JB use only 1/2 ++ . if want to get fuel efficient, better drivi p2
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post Oct 24 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Oct 22 2017, 02:43 AM)
some personal findings of used persona (i just got myself one a few months ago):

FC isn't that good in city, especially if you are doing shorter distance trips. for traffic jam I think it is still alright (not great, but not super bad) and for highway it's not bad (i used around rm25-30 of fuel from KL to Perak, covering around 180km of distance).

the NVH is fine for lower speeds, but it gets worse as you go faster (let's say above 100kmh), im not entirely sure if it is due to the age of the car or that's just how it is. the engine whines in a high pitch during higher speeds and you can hear quite a lot of wind noise/ road noise. the car is quite stable though albeit the noise.

i spent quite a bit to fix some common problems of older personas. the radiator hoses were clogged and i had no idea about it until i drove it on highway and the car overheated quite badly. the head gasket got destroyed and it went through a top overhaul (costed rm1k+).

the suspensions weren't in a good shape too as the front of the car dives a lot when going through bumps and i spent another rm200 to have them serviced. and then the suspension linkages (front passenger side) had to be changed too due to the knocking sound whenever i hit a bump or do a sharp turn, another rm180 gone.

lastly i replaced the IAFM module with a modified intake for rm250 (compared to rm500-600 if you replace it with another brand new IAFM module which will break again in the future). the car was really thirsty and slow to accelerate with the broken IAFM and the worst part is the "tak tak tak" noise it makes.
wind noise is most noticeable from the front quarter of the driver side, i can't really tell apart the other noises yet (mixture of engine and tyre noise i guess). the car is quite noisy even when im cruising around 110kmh, i tried hitting 140kmh and it was too noisy for me to comprehend.
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to me FC in city is ok, dont aspect to get good FC as persona is class C (cruiser typer). the NVH is good and sound insulatiion is ok compare to saga, but if u buy the highline. the noise at 110km is a bit louder but after 120km above the sound is acceptable.
as for the clogged radiator, i suspect the the older owner dont replace the coolant as per schedule as mine replace every 20k km.
there no modified iafm. they just pull out the valve only.


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