LYN Official Proton Persona Owners Club and support thread V21!!
PPLYNC
Persona celebrating TWENTY-ONE threads of awesomeness!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
TO ALL FELLOW PPLYNC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:
If you have ever experienced sounds (tak tak tak tak tak) coming from your engine during cold start in the morning, then it MAY BE one of the infamous Proton's manufacturing defect: the IAFM problem. IAFM noise is most noticeable during cold start, and you may hear the frequency of the noise going up or down depending on the RPM that the engine is running at. The noise is identical to a diesel truck or lorry's engine idling noise. Once the engine has warmed up, the noise will become softer or totally eliminated. This is because the plastic components on one of the valves on IAFM expands with heat. Below is a video of a member's car with IAFM problem.
So far the problems that may be associated with IAFM noise are nothing major, but in certain cases it may cause severe throttle lag, and the noise may get louder over time. Some owners have even experienced increase in fuel consumption and bad engine response.
If you visit the service centre and the mechanic or service attendant tells you that the noise is not caused by IAFM as our Persona Elegance comes with new batch of IAFM modules, DO NOT believe what they said.
You may: 1.) Ask them to diagnose and tell you what exactly is the problem since they insisted that it's not IAFM module noise. 2.) If the mechanics at CoSE tell you that the noise is not caused by IAFM, go to a few different SCs, have them to check your IAFM module for imperfections on the valve, then get them to write a report each. Compile these reports & bring it to CoSE's customer service and file a complaint, give it to their higher authority.
Now, do remember that they may not be able to figure the noise out if you send your car to SC as the engine has already warmed up. Park your car and leave it there for an hour or so for the engine to cool down, then get the service attendant or mechanic to listen to the noise as you start the engine.
Again, I would like to stress on this main point as I've experienced this myself and wasted almost a month plus before sending it to a different SC just to have the noise diagnosed as IAFM problem; If the guys at CoSE tells you that it's not IAFM problem but your guts and 13 other SCs tell u that it is, then it IS IAFM problem. In my case they never even bothered to check as the engine has already warmed up and the sound was gone by the time the mechanic laid his hands on my car.
This serves as an important announcement to all Persona Elegance (PE) owners as to not overlook this small issue that may lead to greater problems in the future. The price of IAFM modules has dropped since year 2009 (from RM 1200+ in late 2008 to RM 2xx in 2011) because of the frequency of Campro IAFM engines having this problem. Still, it's our right to claim the IAFM modules as they are covered under warranty and malfunctioned units are manufacturing defects. We should not wait till the warranty period is over and then pay them RM300+ including labour to fix a defect that is there from day 1 of ownership of the car itself.
I hope all the Persona Elegance owners out there take note of this issue and do not keep an eye closed.
Salam 1 Malaysia, & Harap Maklum.
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Studio shots of the New Persona Elegance (PE)
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251Members and Growing!!! Mega TT will be fun if all 251 Members show up!!
For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome toPPLYNC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update you name into the list.
Car Service & Preventive Maintenance Schedule and Pricing
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2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place. Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE), Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia Tel: 03-80269333 Tel2: 03-80269167 Fax: 03-80269155 HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube
3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.
4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)
Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)
1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. at genting klang n gombak - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol 2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753
Member's Review:
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QUOTE(Nievk8701 @ Jun 24 2011, 11:07 PM)
Dear all, Taman Mayang Service Center really teruk. i ald read in the 1st page post but tot it is the nearest to my house n jus 1000km service,only change oil, so i when there.
i pass the key to one mechanic, a fat guy, when he reverse he step hard on the throttle and enter to D gear when my car stil moving backward.Then rev like no body business n din slow down when drive my car to the jacking machine. ok fine.
then when jacking up my car,can c the arm of the jack machine is less than 1cm from the skirting, i told him to adjust properly he slumber say its ok. then when my car was about 1.5 meter above the arm slip n hit my right skirt, i then shout on at him... the supervisor a lady come out take a look n say its ok, come bck new week, i will spray the paint for u for free. i ald sibeh TL. my car stil less than one week. ok fine.
after finish service, the same machenic fat guy, take my car for test drive, again nvr slow down, becoz the floor is slightly senget, this time my front bumper hit the floor, he jus buat tak tau n drive one round. his work ethic reli bad.
when service, before the oil finish dripping he ald close the nut, then i told him to remove n let it drip for few more minutes.
pls avoid this SC at all cost. wat can i get from them as compensation arr?
QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:52 AM)
Yo Xan,
Pls add my customer review for Senaxis. I have already complain to i-care but i tink thr is no action to be taken from them as i had to call thm numerous times to gt a reply from them. So i tink it is better to let all our proud PE owner to know n avoid the place at ALL cost as it would bring them a lot of heartache whn their new PE is serviced by great 'professional' at that place.
The issues that i had to face until i change a diff place.
a. On the first day of obtaining the car from Atiara, there was an issue with the left hand side door window. Water was able to leak in from contact point between the rubber and window. It seems that the run channel rubber is faulty. The item was not changed, what the service center personnel did was just to apply a whitish liquid to recondition the rubber and put it back in place. After going back there for more than 3times and complaining on the same problem only were they satisfied to replace the run channel rubber for me. In addition to all this, I was charged RM3.50 for processing fee. So much inconvenience caused and I am still charged a processing fee? What kind of service is this?
b. After 2 to 3 weeks of driving, I found that there was a knocking sound coming from my front right hand side. The knocking sound only appears when cornering on uneven ground. It was very prominent when driving up and down of Carrefour multi level parking. I complaint at Senaxis about this issue. They tried a few times to identify the problem but was not able to detect it. Therefore, I did some checking of my own. I found out from the internet and some friends that there was some issue with the previous design of the power steering fluid delivery unit. When i inform Senaxis about this, the answer from them was that my unit was the latest design and the issue was not from there. In addition, the mechanic there was telling me that this was the infamous Carrefour sound and there was no remedies for it at the moment even after I highlighted that it was from the power steering fluid delivery unit. Finally, i got it fixed when I send my car to CoSE. There was no questions asked and the power steering fluid delivery unit was changed as it was a known issue (when I asked the person attending to my car)
c. After 2 months of driving, I was faced with another issue. There was a high pitch screeching sound coming from the fan belt auto tensioner. After sending it to Senaxis, the mechanic informed me that it was normal for the sound to appear and that we (the drivers) are to concern as we do not know that this sound has no effect on the car what-so-ever and that we are just paranoid as the car is still new. The mechanics there just took out the unit and sand paper the part and told me that it is very dirty due to high silicone compound in the belt. After that, they told me that the issue has been resolved. Upon reaching home from the service center, the sound returned again. I went back there again (27th May 2011) after approximately a week plus. They did the same thing again. (Sand paper the part). The sound was still there after the unit was placed back with an addition of a knocking sound. They told me to return again another day to service the unit. I was forced to return to them again. This was on 31st May 2011. What they did was the same thing again – sand paper the part to “clean the dust”. When asked why isn’t the unit replace as it has been time and time again having the same issue, they informed me that it was not under proton to replace the part. The car is brand new, less than 9000km. The 3rd service has not been done yet. Why is it not faulty if it is having the similar issue even after it has been serviced? In addition, the mechanic told me that it was the best that they are able to do. There is nothing else that can be done. (I need to live with this defect?) What kind of efficient service is this?
d. service personnel are not professional in performing their tasks as they do not look into the proper manner to jack up a car. In two occasions, my side skirt were pressed in between the car jack and the car’s body. I am unsure whether there is any internal damage caused to the clips as it is not visible.
This is d same email i sent to i-care as a complain. So guys and gals pls b a gud Samaritan n blacklist tis place.
QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 15 2011, 09:26 AM)
WTF wei... I made an official complain to proton i-care about Senaxis then the boss from Senaxis (Ruby) call n *** kau me. Whr gt customer service like tat one? Is this d kind of standard of customer service that proton is promoting lor? Better b wary for those who plans to go to Senaxis. F*** area whn comes in terms of customer service.
QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Jul 15 2011, 11:10 AM)
WTH, what kind of customer service is that. Btw, why did I-care gave Senaxis your details. Actually, I went to Senaxis once last month to complaint about the door rattling and check my front bumper. Got one skinny mechanic wearing black shirt dark skin very lazy and kinda dirty. Hand,shirt all black and touch my car.Never cover my seat but cincai cover the floor mat with news paper. I test drive with him to let him hear where the sound is coming from. He was like enjoying the ride rather than listening to my complaint. Then he go test drive my car. He put reverse got loud KERRRR sound. When he got back, he told the sound was normal. I said where got normal, he go put grease on the rubber.ZZZ and for the bitument layer gap,he said looks normal to me. Haiz, this kind of attitude,no use asking too much. If normal, I won't be wasting my time coming. Sorry for the long story. Just sharing my experience.
Common Problem in Persona
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Problem 1: Knocking sound when cornering on uneven surface coming from Front RHS Causes: This is due to the power steering fluid delivery piping knocking against the metal pipe and the body underneath it as the uneven road causes it to twitch up and down. OLD Pipe (left) vs New Pipe (right) [attachmentid=1911676][attachmentid=1911677]
Solution: Proceed to Proton SC to claim warranty for Power Steering fluid assembly. Claims are FOC, including the power steering fluid. Parts list they will change for this new power steering assembly. 1)Tube B - PW828913N 2)Tube A - PW828914N 3)Hose Return - PW828915N 4)Rubber Hose - PW820961 5)Clip Pressure - PW820962 6)Orifice Valve - PW895228
Problem 2: Radio hangs/not responsive while driving and no buttons seems to response to press. Causes: The RDS function is scanning for a clearer frequency. Due to different frequency for the same radio station overlapping certain areas while driving, this causes the radio to re-tune the station. Solution: Turn off the RDS function loh. Go read the manual on how to do it.
Problem 3: Klock klock sound coming from the rear seat. (Not applicable for B-Line ) Causes: The foldable rear seat hook has a bit of free play. Solution: Wrap some thick cushion type double sided tape to the hook.
Tips for Persona Users (To be Updated)
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1)Most SC uses Petronas engine oil. To use other engine oil, exp Shell Helix HX-7, its recommended to go to authorized service outlets instead. 2)Stock brake pads are softer than Sponge Bob. Recommendation is to change it to ceramic brakes. Better performance and lesser dust. Best Form Ceramic Nao cost just RM63 for a set of front pads. Can get from forummer Kelvin (if im not mistaken).
Tires Most silent = Primacy LC, slightly poor grip on wet roads (a tradeoff for less noise). Dry Grip High Performance = Bridgestone Potenza RE001, Toyo T1R (A wee bit noisier than RE001) Wet Grip High Performance = Yokohama S-Drive, Pirelli P Zero (Rare)
Help to calculate FC Register at http://www.fuelly.com/ and post it in ur siggy. Maybe in the next Version of the thread we can reserve the 2nd post for FC monitoring by forumers.. Or another ideal way to calculate is to 1) Fill full tank petrol and reset trip meter 2) Drive car like mad fella or slow like aunty.. 3) When u need to refill the tank (no matter is only used half tank only or use till no more petrol in tank), top it back up to full tank (remember to note down how many litres filled in, using the price instead is subjective as petrol price fluctuates up and down and may affect future comparison). 4) Jot down mileage from previous full tank till refill and reset trip meter again. 5) Calculate (FC= Total mileage/Litres filled to top up back to full tank). 6) Post it up onto our club here for comparison. State ( XX% city driving / YY%highway) in XX KM/L format..
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with the above stated threads promoting their products nor I have any experience using the product unless otherwise stated..
This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 7 2011, 02:32 PM
LYN Official Proton Persona Owners Club and support thread V21!!
PPLYNC
Persona celebrating TWENTY-ONE threads of awesomeness!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
TO ALL FELLOW PPLYNC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:
If you have ever experienced sounds (tak tak tak tak tak) coming from your engine during cold start in the morning, then it MAY BE one of the infamous Proton's manufacturing defect: the IAFM problem. IAFM noise is most noticeable during cold start, and you may hear the frequency of the noise going up or down depending on the RPM that the engine is running at. The noise is identical to a diesel truck or lorry's engine idling noise. Once the engine has warmed up, the noise will become softer or totally eliminated. This is because the plastic components on one of the valves on IAFM expands with heat. Below is a video of a member's car with IAFM problem.
So far the problems that may be associated with IAFM noise are nothing major, but in certain cases it may cause severe throttle lag, and the noise may get louder over time. Some owners have even experienced increase in fuel consumption and bad engine response.
If you visit the service centre and the mechanic or service attendant tells you that the noise is not caused by IAFM as our Persona Elegance comes with new batch of IAFM modules, DO NOT believe what they said.
You may: 1.) Ask them to diagnose and tell you what exactly is the problem since they insisted that it's not IAFM module noise. 2.) If the mechanics at CoSE tell you that the noise is not caused by IAFM, go to a few different SCs, have them to check your IAFM module for imperfections on the valve, then get them to write a report each. Compile these reports & bring it to CoSE's customer service and file a complaint, give it to their higher authority.
Now, do remember that they may not be able to figure the noise out if you send your car to SC as the engine has already warmed up. Park your car and leave it there for an hour or so for the engine to cool down, then get the service attendant or mechanic to listen to the noise as you start the engine.
Again, I would like to stress on this main point as I've experienced this myself and wasted almost a month plus before sending it to a different SC just to have the noise diagnosed as IAFM problem; If the guys at CoSE tells you that it's not IAFM problem but your guts and 13 other SCs tell u that it is, then it IS IAFM problem. In my case they never even bothered to check as the engine has already warmed up and the sound was gone by the time the mechanic laid his hands on my car.
This serves as an important announcement to all Persona Elegance (PE) owners as to not overlook this small issue that may lead to greater problems in the future. The price of IAFM modules has dropped since year 2009 (from RM 1200+ in late 2008 to RM 2xx in 2011) because of the frequency of Campro IAFM engines having this problem. Still, it's our right to claim the IAFM modules as they are covered under warranty and malfunctioned units are manufacturing defects. We should not wait till the warranty period is over and then pay them RM300+ including labour to fix a defect that is there from day 1 of ownership of the car itself.
I hope all the Persona Elegance owners out there take note of this issue and do not keep an eye closed.
Salam 1 Malaysia, & Harap Maklum.
Photos From Recent TTs TT 4.0 - Genting Highlands.
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Studio shots of the New Persona Elegance (PE)
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1. wkho555 - LightGold HL 2. CHIP CN - Blueberry Tea ML 3. vivre - Tranquility Black HL 4. Ultima - Irridescent White BL 5. spana - Blueberry Tea ML 6. bobiq - Iri White ML 7. mr_ashraf - metal grey ML 8. billygoatz - Irridescent White BL 9. tartung - Tranquility Black HL 10. badrul_rg - Blueberry Tea HL 11. dzariq - Solid White BL 12. john_jenin - Tranquility Black HL 13. ! Love Money - Irridescent White ML (MT) 14. izaman - Tranquility Black HL 15. zhen^wei - Irridescent White BL (AT) 16. zuying1985 - Irridescent White BL (A) 17. apahal - Tranquility Black ML (M) 18. hwchua - Tranquility Black ML (A) 19. jondevour - Irridescent White HL 20. Boxerawd - LightGold ML (MT) 21. pakleh - HL tranquilty black 22. bluswhitehat - Light Gold - HL 23. spana - Light Gold HL 24. nel - Irridescent White 25. Kappa - Irridescent White ML (MT) 26. andy_resort - Irridescent White BL 27. dukunet - Tranquility Black HL 28. h_aiqa_l - Tranquility Black 29. hornetsjet - Metal Grey BL (MT) 30. malyadayada - Red BL 31. korent - T. Black ML (MT) 32. xordMeztGeR - Bluberry Tea ML 33. amiranna - light Gold (ML) 34. zeronehza - blueberry tea HL 35. wqv_joe: Metal Grey ML 36. danilo5753 - Irr.White H-Line 37. JonSpark - Metal Gray B-Line 38. ZYen - Solid White HL 39. Niv86 - Blueberry Tea HL 40. shapa106 - Metal Grey BL 41. alienLYN - Metal grey BL (MT) 42. cmyap - RED (BL) Auto 43. shihyao - Red BL Auto 44. hulkboy - Metal grey (ML- AT), IAFM unit 45. ignatiuslu - solid white - MT - iafm 46. necromencer - Persona M-line AT, I-White 47. exhausted - HL Auto Blueberry 48. pillar - BL, manual, Irrediscent white 49. remo1502 - Base Line Persona I - White 50. farscope - BL auto 51. ryugan - b/line,Metal grey Manual Tranny 52. nazril1906 - I-white HL auto 53. gaaraofthedesert- black m-line (mt) 54. mfanthony - metal grey-m line AT with IAFM 55. weaflee - Iri White BL (A) 56. loong2020 - ML,auto, Irrediscent white 57. ychwang - Irrediscent white Manual BL 58. figure8 - black - M-Line 59. harith_gtr34 - Blueberry Tea - M-line (AT) 60. magnumrolez - persona SE hazel blue 61. persona68 - Persona Silver H-Line 1.6(A) 62. sebnimh84 - Persona H-Line Blueberry Tea 63. jonilabu - persona I-White (M) B-Line 64. luriazidnaffa - Blue Haze SE 65. Sandking - Black-H.Line 66. amadeo - Solid white M-Line 67. Cool_Knights - Persona SE (Haze Blue) 68. drgnkid - Blue Haze SE 69. seela85 - Persona Metal Grey BS (MT) 70. Heavencloud -Tranquility Black M-Line (MT) 71. krk24 - Persona Genetic Silver (HL) 72. Ravemaster - Blue Haze - SE (AT) 73. mamata - Blue Haze - SE (AT) 74. Martolavesitus - Black M-Line 75. acam - Metal Grey ML (MT) 76. Arasy - Metal Grey BL (MT) 77. ipohmali70 - Persona SE Brilliant Red 78. lhy88 - Tranquility Black M-Line 79. Datuk_Seri - Tranquility Black M-Line 80. cbkhor - Persona M line, Silver 81. sketcher - Metal Grey Persona (MT) 82. KKW - Tranquility Black M-Line Auto 83. 2fast2furious - Persona B-Line (A) Silver colour 84. rckh - Metal Grey ML (AT) 85. Mutt2020 - Persona SE, Brilliant Red 86. eMeRiTuS - Briliant Red SE (AT) 87. Josh_M - Blueberry Tea 88. keeplwk - Tranquility Black ML 89. Exora7118 - Tranquility Black ML 90. xefron - blue haze Persona SE 91. @r3|4^2 - Red BL (MT) 92. yous - Blueberry Tea (ML) 93. Mafarizan - blubery tea 94. Speedy~ - Black ML (AT) 95. afiqn9 - metal grey automatic 96. chteh0721 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 97. NSX_MY - Genetic Silver ML (MT) 98. shacxz - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 99. zhnme523 - Genetic Silver ML (MT) 100. fonda82 - Metal Gray BL (AT) 101. persona_r3 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 102. dARKaNGEl - Blue Haze SE (AT) 103. Lord_sepulchrave - Blue Haze SE (AT) 104. naley - Genetic Silver BL (MT) 105. patdidi - Genetic Silver BL (MT) 106. snakesolidus - Tranquility Black HL 107. yhanwong - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 108. Josh_M - Blueberry Tea ML 109. Baozzz - Blueberry Tea ML 110. bryanwong3 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 111. JynoRip - Metal Gray BL 112. yclim11 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 113. panafone - Tranquility Black HL (AT) 114. zepple - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 115. vccy - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 116. flyingteeku - Bronze Garnet BL 117. RookY - Tranquility Black ML 118. muslayer - Metal Gray ML (MT) 119. dadurtyz - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 120. shaff - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 121. isildur88 - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 122. summer9uy - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 123. AlongN9 - Metal Grey ML 124. arfaie - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 125. analogi21 - Chiffone Green ML Elegance 126. drk messenger - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 127. aca1 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 128. roundedfly - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 129. boonykun - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 130. org_kg - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 131. moc. - Blueberry Tea ML (MT) 132. MjMax15 - Metal Gray BL (AT) 133. d3x - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 134. anilin - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 135. crashoverride - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 136. yohannes - Tranquility Black HL (AT) 137. alextrg - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 138. hendra86 - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 139. ultraman070 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 140. Beogatts - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 141. ezone85 - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 142. victor87 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 143. poobalanc - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 144. wilsonjack228 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 145. jasontantenghuat - Metal Gray BL (AT) 146. lhongwuh - Blueberry Tea ML (AT) 147. khtee - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 148. rex82 - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 149. jackyap84 - Chiffon Green Hl (AT) Elegance 150. chew1188 - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 151. onenis - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 152. kfthoo - Blueberry Tea HL (AT) 153. cherryha - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 154. zacTera - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 155. yukogura89 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 156. mosh - Brilliant Red Elegance 157. cva_m - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Persona Elegance 158. reGedit07 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Persona Elegance 159. unknownhammie - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 160. adload - Bronze Garnet (AT) Elegance 161. syakumi - Bronze Garnett ML (MT) Elegance 162. seng12345 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 163. ahshuy - Metal Gray HL (AT) 164. ZenGTMM - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 165. sensei84 - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 166. trinittrotoleune - Solid White HL 167. jhbey - Bronze Garnet HL Elegance 168. saddient - Bronze Garnet HL Elegance 169. davwon - metal grey BL (AT) 170. savages - Tranquility Black HL Elegance 171. azrko - Irrediscent white B line 172. MR_47 - Bronze Garnet BL Elegance 173. switch_133 - Brilliant Red HL Elegance 174. xandras - Bronze Garnet ML Elegance 175. slater_iz - Metal Grey BL MT 176. AkuWady - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 177. ITmaniac - Genetic Silver ML 178. gm_18300 - Metal Grey ML 179. Janick1437 - BL (MT) 180. fenrir0402 - Bronze Garnet BL MT 181. farcry84 - Genetic Silver HL Elegance 182. antkuchiki - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 183. skacinta08 - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 184. ngeo88 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 185. ashangel39 - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 186. forumyen - BL (AT) Elegance 187. magister - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 188. scattygirl - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 189. PaiPitt - Metal Grey BL (MT) 190. saiful_azhar - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 191. cho_petpet - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 192. little little - Genetic Sliver BL (MT) Elegance 193. forbidden84 - Genetic Sliver BL (MT) Elegance 194. samwongjyhhorng - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 195. K.Lee - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 196. aziz79 - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 197. Putera_Stephen - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 198. zapdos9 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 199. izzizahari - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 200. eanson - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 201. manejist - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 202. speedrider - Broze Garnet (AT) Elegance 203. shinjo - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 204. kintsuchi - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 205. pupumaru - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 206. PGS - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 207. phythia79 - Genetic Silver ML Elegance 208. RViN - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 209. onijoseph - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 210. MovingMachine - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 211. petit - Tranquility Black (AT) Elegance 212. panda*Pan - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 213. din_kaixa - Metal Grey BL (MT) 214. cajun2de - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 215. selangorclay - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 216. lkc185 - Metal Grey BL (AT) 217. oldskool AE - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 218. potionmaster1987 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 219. wei_hoong - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 220. ychoong - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 221. IsapIsap - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 222. rhoma - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 223. ckdenion - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 224. wan arif - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 225. deepan84 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 226. bryan_oel - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 227. jasontantenghuat - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 228. sportivo55 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 229. monodevil - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 230. pairjal - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 231. azeotrope - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 232. dorinyeah - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 233. Cavino - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 234. phatzlan - Tranquility Black (AT) 235. ResQ - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 236. sairento - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 237. Dav6534 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 238. pairjal - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 239. kokleong75 - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 240. qeem - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 241. jasonloh7906 - Blueberry Tea HL (AT) 242. tarm - Chiffon Green HL (AT) Elegance 243. nevergonewrong - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 244. panje001 - Pearl White ML (AT) Elegance 245. weeyi00 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 246. luenywoon - Pearl White ML (MT) Elegance
246Members and Growing!!! Mega TT will be fun if all 246 Members show up!!
For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome toPPLYNC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update you name into the list.
Car Service & Preventive Maintenance Schedule and Pricing
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2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place. Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE), Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia Tel: 03-80269333 Tel2: 03-80269167 Fax: 03-80269155 HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube
3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.
4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)
Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)
1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. at genting klang n gombak - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol 2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753
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Common Problem in Persona
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Problem 1: Knocking sound when cornering on uneven surface coming from Front RHS Causes: This is due to the power steering fluid delivery piping knocking against the metal pipe and the body underneath it as the uneven road causes it to twitch up and down. OLD Pipe (left) vs New Pipe (right) [attachmentid=1911676][attachmentid=1911677]
Solution: Proceed to Proton SC to claim warranty for Power Steering fluid assembly. Claims are FOC, including the power steering fluid. Parts list they will change for this new power steering assembly. 1)Tube B - PW828913N 2)Tube A - PW828914N 3)Hose Return - PW828915N 4)Rubber Hose - PW820961 5)Clip Pressure - PW820962 6)Orifice Valve - PW895228
Problem 2: Radio hangs/not responsive while driving and no buttons seems to response to press. Causes: The RDS function is scanning for a clearer frequency. Due to different frequency for the same radio station overlapping certain areas while driving, this causes the radio to re-tune the station. Solution: Turn off the RDS function loh. Go read the manual on how to do it.
Problem 3: Klock klock sound coming from the rear seat. (Not applicable for B-Line ) Causes: The foldable rear seat hook has a bit of free play. Solution: Wrap some thick cushion type double sided tape to the hook.
Tips for Persona Users (To be Updated)
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1)Most SC uses Petronas engine oil. To use other engine oil, exp Shell Helix HX-7, its recommended to go to authorized service outlets instead. 2)Stock brake pads are softer than Sponge Bob. Recommendation is to change it to ceramic brakes. Better performance and lesser dust. Best Form Ceramic Nao cost just RM63 for a set of front pads. Can get from forummer Kelvin (if im not mistaken).
Tires Most silent = Primacy LC, slightly poor grip on wet roads (a tradeoff for less noise). Dry Grip High Performance = Bridgestone Potenza RE001, Toyo T1R (A wee bit noisier than RE001) Wet Grip High Performance = Yokohama S-Drive, Pirelli P Zero (Rare)
Help to calculate FC Register at http://www.fuelly.com/ and post it in ur siggy. Maybe in the next Version of the thread we can reserve the 2nd post for FC monitoring by forumers.. Or another ideal way to calculate is to 1) Fill full tank petrol and reset trip meter 2) Drive car like mad fella or slow like aunty.. 3) When u need to refill the tank (no matter is only used half tank only or use till no more petrol in tank), top it back up to full tank (remember to note down how many litres filled in, using the price instead is subjective as petrol price fluctuates up and down and may affect future comparison). 4) Jot down mileage from previous full tank till refill and reset trip meter again. 5) Calculate (FC= Total mileage/Litres filled to top up back to full tank). 6) Post it up onto our club here for comparison. State ( XX% city driving / YY%highway) in XX KM/L format..
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with the above stated threads promoting their products nor I have any experience using the product unless otherwise stated..
I'm broke again man because of the itchiness to park my geoduck.. 1st nite G Hotel, 2nd nite Hard Rock Batu Ferringhi, 3rd nite Golden Sands also Batu Ferringhi.. Total spent RM 1.3k plus.. What a damn unforgettable way to spend RM 1.3k
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@xan...spend 1.3k for unforgetable nite is worth lah~~hahahaha~~lucky i dun have to spend tat amount of money~~ @zeng...wat do u mean is done right??
Not 1 nite mah.. 3 nites.. So quite ok lah..
Wat zeng meant is the overall of the TC.. Correct boost level with correct ECU tuning, etc etc will generally make it more reliable while gaining optimum power.. But not many TC sifus out there can do this la..
jason, ur car got angel ring? or just change white bulb?
use t10 13xled smd. if u get the 28xled one lagi bright i think. actually i wanna change to projector one. but cost RM600. so i wait lor. wait got money 1st. like this cheap XD
use t10 13xled smd. if u get the 28xled one lagi bright i think. actually i wanna change to projector one. but cost RM600. so i wait lor. wait got money 1st. like this cheap XD
so no angel ring...then how much the 28xled? will easily spoil or kena block by police?
Jul 26 2011, 12:19 AM, updated 15y ago
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Wipe ur saliva off man... 
What a damn unforgettable way to spend RM 1.3k 
who said so? 
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