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post Jan 18 2016, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Jan 18 2016, 08:52 PM)
TGDi in your persona soon?  brows.gif
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Don't think it's gonna be a feasible idea. biggrin.gif I think the biggest problem is getting the engine to fit in the car, second being buying a used one in the first place. Luckily we still have the 4G63T option. brows.gif
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post Jan 18 2016, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 18 2016, 08:57 PM)
Don't think it's gonna be a feasible idea. biggrin.gif I think the biggest problem is getting the engine to fit in the car, second being buying a used one in the first place. Luckily we still have the 4G63T option. brows.gif
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i thought JPJ doesnt allow 2L above for protons except inspira and perdana?
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post Jan 18 2016, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Jan 18 2016, 08:59 PM)
i thought JPJ doesnt allow 2L above for protons except inspira and perdana?
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Tak tauu ooo. I never researched much about this since I have no plans to upgrade the engine. But I recall reading somewhere in this forum that it's now allowed.
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post Jan 19 2016, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 18 2016, 08:14 PM)
My Driver Power Windows failing, and i'm not eligible for the Lifetime Warranty. Is it broken or can still fix with silicone spray?

Started few weeks back when i press auto down it will stuck 2/5 way need to press again to fully down, press up no problem but everytime stuck when it closes will close hard.

Just now same thing happened except now halfway up it doesn't go up, wind down wind up again still stuck halfway, need to use hand to assist the windows to close and when closed it closes really hard. I'm not sure is the motor broke or some gearing issue.

If repair should go back Proton or my usual mechanic? Roughly how much and how long it takes to repair? And if motor fault is there any new design or only have old design?

Also my car squeeks when i brake especially during cold/wet days, any issue with that?
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Most probably power window motor. Can get it change within rm100
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post Jan 19 2016, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Jan 19 2016, 11:46 AM)
Most probably power window motor. Can get it change within rm100
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some one mention might be the plastic bracket, i can see this is not a common problem for persona...
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post Jan 19 2016, 01:54 PM

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Anyone know what is the problem at fuel tank. During filling petrol, i have to press slowly to fill up. Even i use the minimun fueling click on the petrol gun, it will be jumping out after 2 sec. It will jumping out also when fuel gun not fully insert. Try lotsa method, no work.... I took to SC to check and they said the fuel tank pressure is OK.
Very difficult to fill up each time at petrol station. Haih !!!
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post Jan 19 2016, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(wingonnwong @ Jan 19 2016, 01:54 PM)
Anyone know what is the problem at fuel tank. During filling petrol, i have to press slowly to fill up. Even i use the minimun fueling click on the petrol gun, it will be jumping out after 2 sec. It will jumping out also when fuel gun not fully insert. Try lotsa method, no work.... I took to SC to check and they said the fuel tank pressure is OK.
Very difficult to fill up each time at petrol station. Haih !!!
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overfilled once, not anymore, now fill until 80% ok already thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wingonnwong @ Jan 19 2016, 01:54 PM)
Anyone know what is the problem at fuel tank. During filling petrol, i have to press slowly to fill up. Even i use the minimun fueling click on the petrol gun, it will be jumping out after 2 sec. It will jumping out also when fuel gun not fully insert. Try lotsa method, no work.... I took to SC to check and they said the fuel tank pressure is OK.
Very difficult to fill up each time at petrol station. Haih !!!
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For my car I can only insert the nozzle halfway, otherwise it'll keep stopping. Sometimes the angle of the nozzle also causes the thing to stop.

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 19 2016, 12:07 PM)
some one mention might be the plastic bracket, i can see this is not a common problem for persona...
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Not sure if the Persona Elegance has a different design, but the window regulator for mine is metal. The symptom I have experienced so far for a failing power window motor is that it only likes operating once under hot weather before going dead. It comes back to life when it has cooled down a bit. Replacing the window motor is a very easy DIY task.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 19 2016, 03:46 PM)
Not sure if the Persona Elegance has a different design, but the window regulator for mine is metal. The symptom I have experienced so far for a failing power window motor is that it only likes operating once under hot weather before going dead. It comes back to life when it has cooled down a bit. Replacing the window motor is a very easy DIY task.
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is yours pre-facelift? mine is pre-facelift. so the problem is motor not bracket?

replacing is easy, but how to take the door panel apart? and to put back need use glue right?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 19 2016, 04:03 PM)
is yours pre-facelift? mine is pre-facelift. so the problem is motor not bracket?

replacing is easy, but how to take the door panel apart? and to put back need use glue right?
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Yes, mine is pre-facelift. The door panel is held on by screws, all of which should be easily found (5 for front door, 3 for rear). Once you remove all the screws, you just need to slowly pry the door panel off the door. I would suggest running your fingers along the door panel to slowly release it so you don't break the door clips. You can start by pulling the door panel off from the top.

The only thing that you need to worry about is sticking the weather sheet back. I would suggest buying windscreen sealant as well because the butyl strip that holds the weather sheet has probably dried up after so long. Also, be careful when you remove the power window motor from the regulator. The part where the power window motor sits on the regulator is spring loaded.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 19 2016, 04:03 PM)
is yours pre-facelift? mine is pre-facelift. so the problem is motor not bracket?

replacing is easy, but how to take the door panel apart? and to put back need use glue right?
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By the way, the regulator has to be removed from the door so that you can get access to the power window motor. This means that you will have to remove the two screws that secure the window to the regulator itself as well. If your motor still works, use it to wind the window until it's almost completely down. You should be able to get access to the screws then.

If the spring is causing the installation of the power window motor to be difficult, work with the new motor. Remove the spring from the part that it is holding, then install the new motor. Once that's done, plug it to its power source and use the motor to move its base into position so you can pull the spring back into its seat.

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post Jan 19 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Jan 19 2016, 02:03 PM)
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NO. Even filling start on 20% also keep jumping..... cry.gif
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post Jan 19 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 19 2016, 02:47 PM)
For my car I can only insert the nozzle halfway, otherwise it'll keep stopping. Sometimes the angle of the nozzle also causes the thing to stop.
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Ya... Half is better but mine will still jumping. But not frequent as 2 sec.. maybe 30sec - 40sec once... Sienz !!!
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post Jan 19 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 15 2016, 04:22 PM)
I see. If it isn't related to your wiper blades/arms (e.g wiper arm incorrectly adjusted and therefore causing the wiper blade to hit the edge of the windscreen), it could be the wiper linkage, or the motor itself. The wiper motor can be easily accessed from the engine bay, but to get access to the wiper linkage, you'll need to remove the plastic piece that runs along the bottom of the windscreen. It is fairly easy cause you'll just need to pull out the black plastic screws from the engine bay and remove two screws located at each end of the plastic piece, then pry the plastic piece off which is held to the car by plastic clips which are also used for door panels.

Be careful when you buy aftermarket wiper linkage, cause I bought one once and the driver side wiper spindle (where the wiper arm is screwed on to) wasn't the right size, so the right wiper couldn't be installed properly. I managed to get a refund for it. Also, do note that there are plenty of sharp edges around.
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yersterday i tried to manually bend the wiper to see if the wiper "bone" will have contact with the windscreen and the result is no.
i will plan to change whole set wiper assembly.
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what is the legal level for tinted the car window?? plan to do tint... but do know what is the legal level in malaysia
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post Jan 19 2016, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroKunz @ Jan 19 2016, 08:01 PM)
what is the legal level for tinted the car window?? plan to do tint... but do know what is the legal level in malaysia
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Front Windscreen 70%, front windows 50%, rear windows 30%
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post Jan 19 2016, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 19 2016, 08:14 PM)
Front Windscreen 70%, front windows 50%, rear windows 30%
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rear window 30% is ok??? because i see 30% is really quite dark.. hardlu see inside
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post Jan 19 2016, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroKunz @ Jan 19 2016, 08:24 PM)
rear window 30% is ok??? because i see 30% is really quite dark.. hardlu see inside
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No idea. If you're worried about it being too dark, maybe get lighter tints and compensate with sunshades. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 19 2016, 04:08 PM)
Yes, mine is pre-facelift. The door panel is held on by screws, all of which should be easily found (5 for front door, 3 for rear). Once you remove all the screws, you just need to slowly pry the door panel off the door. I would suggest running your fingers along the door panel to slowly release it so you don't break the door clips. You can start by pulling the door panel off from the top.

The only thing that you need to worry about is sticking the weather sheet back. I would suggest buying windscreen sealant as well because the butyl strip that holds the weather sheet has probably dried up after so long. Also, be careful when you remove the power window motor from the regulator. The part where the power window motor sits on the regulator is spring loaded.
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hi, do you have any picture or seller that sells the bracket+motor? only one i found is the motor i don't see the bracket:

http://www.lelong.com.my/proton-persona-po...6-05-Sale-P.htm

btw where can i buy those windscreen sealant? Mr.DIY only has those weather stripes, will shops do that for you or if the stips dried out they just leave it?

BTW Motor, Regulator, Bracket are all separate? your problem was the motor or regulator or bracket coz someone say maybe bracket broke i don't know since you say Prefacelift Persona are metal brackets.

another thing with removing door panel, what about the wires connecting the driver side buttons? i dunno speaker is mounted on the inner door panel or outer, also what about the door lock?

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