hi guys, as the thread title is stated...i was wondering( i havent got an Xbox 360 yet but planning to get one from Djinn very very soon)....should i buy a 19inch LCD monitor to play my games or just use my regular average tv(32 inch)...

ive been doin "research" on the net and i would just like to get sum feed back from u proud 360 owners out there

for me, im interested in getting a good resolution and getting to enjoy all the details that an xbox 360 and its games can offer. And sadly no..i dnt have the money to go buying plasma tvs lol.....any advice would be appreciated to help me solve my dilemma....

what about CRTs?better choice compared to LCDs when playin ur xbox 360?

PS: i never owned a LCD monitor b4...so i dnt knw what to expect...heheehee

This post has been edited by MightySmiter: Nov 29 2006, 10:31 PM

what 32" TV is it? LCD or normal TV?

u can get a philips or Dell LCD monitor,as they are one of the best in 360

but a 32" TV is enough if u wanna play games,heck my 27" TV is too big for me

but its mainly your choice
go to a shop and see for yourself

i only bought a refurbished 21" crt monitor to play my 360. i would say the quality is much2 more better compared to my 21" normal panasonic tv in the living room.

last time played condemed in the normal tv cannot see at all but now playing in my crt monitor damn syok can see all the details/mapping.

thats what the ppl say "The LCD monitor may look thin,sleek and shiny,but their refresh rates and graphics look better on a CRT monitor"

haha

normal tv la
hehe..so fast got feed back.... more more

32" either flat screen,widescreen,or round screen (dunno if i got that right)

is a lot already,big like hell hhaaha,if it has component input then better

issit slimfit tv?

lol...my 32 inch tv old wan la...sony triniton im guessing its wide screen coz it has a rectangular shape...long width and short breadth..lol

still good right?

hows the graphics?

i suggests u get a CRT monitor anything after that sucks until the big kahuna's (37",42",50",61",80"projector,100"projector,120"projector,Cinema screen )

Easiest n cheapest solution is get a Large CRT screen like judge's 21".
They produce HD images over a VGA cable at a vry small price.
2nd get a TV which can display HD images like the SONY 29" I forgot its model. It's bout RM1900 for a 29" HD.
3rd get an LCD display. Go widescreen if possible as its the way to play games IMHO. 19" wide will set you back bout RM1200 for a viewsonic.
4th if you got cash to splurge.. go for LCD or PLASMA. 32" or 42" or even 50" heck ur wallet is ur limit.
No matter what display you get, You wont regret the X360.
Cheers

yup wait till u see some guy playing his 360 on his 10" tv (the one u bring on field trips or police use at home )

it will satisfy u,at least until PS3 comes out,which they say GRAW would look much better

Whatever it is that you get, get a widescreen one. Trust me, you're missing a lot if you don't go widescreen with the X360

A CRT monitor is the best bet for the best looking graphics, but it lacks widescreen....

Buy dell 24" and play 360 + browse lyn at the same time

^nice PIP...

for a HD quality yet cheaps get SONY KV-DB29M61. only for RM1.8k

This post has been edited by xxboxx: Apr 18 2006, 12:50 AM

thnks for all the response guys
so let me get this right, a widescreen LCD is better than what any CRT monitor can provide?
btw, do all LCDs provide HD quality images?

This post has been edited by MightySmiter: Apr 18 2006, 09:25 AM

off course lah widescreen LCD far more better than normal crt monitor. you must remember also the price also far more extra $$$. hehehe i am on limited budget so for me a rm295 refurbished 21" crt monitor is so damn good already. but if you got extra budget then just go ahead with the widescreen LCD.

^ ya thats true.. both CRT monitor and LCD monitors are HD.. what matters is only the resolution that you will get how how big you wan to see your games in.

I've posted some images taken from a 24" DELL 2405FPW. Not exactly good pics (taken from a HP) but at least it'll give u a rough idea how they might look like on a LCD.

Where the pic?

^ look up a few post.. Unusual has a pic posted on 24" dell with Oblivion in PIP.



This is my VA1912W.

This post has been edited by shumaky: Apr 18 2006, 10:40 AM

how much aa this monitor cost?

Dell 24" Wide is RM 3,499
Dell 20" Wide is RM 2,199

i'd like to add something:

the Dell 24" has component inputs, the best method to connect xb360 IMHO.
the Dell 20" only has composite, s-video, vga and dvi-i, u'd need a xb360 vga cable for this baby for HD.

can u show me the pic quality..me also here got limited budget here .So what cable i nned to buy if i gonna use this crt monitor.Plan to buy xbox comong soon

^ You will need a VGA cable.. get the 3rd party one if you are low on budget.
It works well enuf.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=274782

Anyway guys, connecting to a normal 21 inch Panasonic TV using component inputs good quality or not? Cause out of budget to get lcd . That panasonic tv only 600 bucks.

you and me same case lah. me also before this using the normal 21" panasonic tv in the living room. if using those normal tv then you better play the 360 using your crt monitor. the quality will be much2 more better. you just need a vga cable

But i also wanna use ps2 at the same time. Looks like CRT is not a good alternative. Anyway which model of panasonic tv you have there? Or should i get a Sony tv instead? I see both almost the same quality only that Sony is more overpriced.

hehehe old 21" panasonic sophia...

using an LCD monitor would not require a vga cable? only crt monitors?

just wanna say thanks to all those that have posted here and shared their experiences now i knw what to get....all i need is teh moneh hehehe...

off-topic: what do u need other than a modem and streamyx to join xbox live and play games online? is there a charge or a monthly bill thingy needed?sorry still a newbie at this xbox360 thingy...hehehehe

Hey,

I just got a 360 last month so i know how confusing all of this can be at first. Luckily i got some help from the people here

First off, i visited this site a lot to understand the various ways to connect the 360 to the net.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/connectt...360/default.htm

So there're many ways to connect the 360 to the Net but the easiest and the one im using now is the direct to modem connection. Basically all u need is ur ADSL modem that TM gave u when u got streamyx. U hook ur internet phone line into the modem and connect the modem to ur 360 with the cable that comes with ur 360. That's all the hardware ur gonna need. A router would be nice too though.

Now comes LIVE. With ur xbox 360 comes a free 1-month trial to Xbox Live Gold which means that u can download (some) stuff for free online like game demos and trailers, communicate with other Live people and play ur games online.

So once you've connected to xbox live, and u create ur gamertag and activate ur account, then you will have 1 month to enjoy Live Gold for free. Once that one month ends , you can either continue subscribing ( pay using credit card or buy the subscription cards from Djinn and use those) or not. If you don't want to continue, you still can connect to Xbox Live Silver but you wont get to play games online because your Gold membership has expired.

But let me tell you that Live is really great la. I don't play online as much as i want to (im having my finals now) but i love the fact that you can download and try out the games before you buy them.

So there's a bit of info from me. Hope it helps

This post has been edited by haflife: Apr 18 2006, 03:52 PM

Yes you need a VGA cable to connect to both a CRT or LCD.
the diff is that some high end LCD will have component input. Then its better if you use a component cable to connect to the X360.
But standard screens use VGA.

Depending on your budget and you definitely want to play xbox 360 on HD. (HDTV 720p / 1080i)

32" Samsung CS-32Z30HE Slim Fit HDTV (only runs HDTV 1080i/576i/480p/480i) - price is about RM$3k+ - best bring xbox 360 to TV for testing b4 buying it.http://www.samsung.com/my/products/televis.../ws_32z30he.asp

24" Dell 2405FPW or wait for the Dell 2407WFP (6ms response time) - native HD resolution at 1920x1200

CRT and LCD pretty good for gaming. CRT is limited to 32" at the moment in the market. LCD goes all way to 65" and plasma all the way to 55".

I would balance my budget with the biggest screen for the bang of the buck.

Consider the DLP Rear Projection TV with HDTV as well. I hear prices are dropping below RM$4k for 42" or so.

This post has been edited by huikb: Apr 24 2006, 03:49 PM

hehe...guess i'll have to aim to get a 19 inch widescreen then....im wondering what about the sound?unlike all tvs, u dnt really see monitors with in-built speakers. even if they have it its hardly even good....i do have a 4.1 creative speaker set....how do i connect this to the 360 and the monitor?or do i have to get another gadget thingy to plug it in?

ooo..i have another question
whats the difference if u play the 360 on an LCD monitor with DVI output and an LCD monitor with no DVI output but u use a VGA cable?


btw(an LCD with DVI output=digital LCD whereas an LCD with no DVI = analouge LCD?)

hi dude~

well, DVI will only have advantage when comes to viewing ur text on ur desktop. its a bit more clear compare to analog on your LCD.

so, i wont effect any picture performance and the respon time on gaming.

I'm using a Philips 150S 15" LCD monitor with 3rd party VGA cable and RCA to minijack...Feels GOOD...

Dell 2405FPW is now only RM3099

once again i wanna thank all those who have contributed in making my choice easier....guess i have boiled things down to 2 choices.....

a) a 19 inch widescreen LCD monitor
or
b) a 20++ inch CRT monitor

which should i get? btw, are there any widescreen CRTs out there?
btw..im not planning to watch any movies on the monitor...primarily used for gaming..so is a widescreen really necessary?

This post has been edited by MightySmiter: May 3 2006, 03:30 PM

If you can get widescreen, go for it.

I was at HSL at The Curve just now. The Sony 50" A10 display unit is going for RM7999

If you're on budget, you can go for a Sony TV with Progressive Scan capability, then buy component cables for the 360 and you can enable 480P which is very nice and sharp already.

I was eyeing this TV also last time, got good reviews and feedback from AVS forums.

lol...walaueh...im just a student la..not even working at all how to afford sumthing at RM7999

like i said in the earlier post, after reading all u guys awesome feedback
ive decided (of course this is with my budget of RM1k at the most) to get

a) a 19 inch widescreen LCD monitor
or
b) a 20++ inch CRT monitor

the question is which should i get?

and yeah..if i wanted to watch a movie i already have a nice dvd player with a big tv(not a hdtv la, thats why i dnt want to play my future xbox360 on it )
so im not sure if i need a "widescreen" feature

LOL... that was not directed at you, just letting you guys know what I found just now

As for your question, go for the 19" widescreen as you'll loose lots of space when playing a widescreen game on a normal monitor.

If you're a student then you've already made your decision already, save your money and just use your current computer display.

Hello people.

Anyone got any idea how to connect the Xbox360 and play on a Sony notebook? Checked, only got video out but no video in. Please help. Thanks.

Actually, it's ED/ PAL resolution, meaning that you can get ~576 instead of the normal 720++ lines resolved over the TV. I have a KV-DA29M61 and I'm regretting now. (New one is just a slight revision, I don't expect them to drop a super fine pitch tube inside)

THe ONLY Sony True HD CRT TVs are the KV-HR series- 3000+ ringgit.
I just realised I was ripped, emailed to Sony, got no response... somebody sue them.

the cheapest KV-HR models is KV-HR29M61 which is RM4k++, and it still not true HD since it is not widescreen. the plus point it have super fine pitch.

for the resolutions, i reads it somewhere KV-DA/DB upconverts 720p signal to 1080i. and i believe KV-HR also doing the same thing. the only reason KV-HR looks better than KV-DA/DB is because of super fine pitch, more dot per-inch, which makes the tv much more expensive. but the KV-DA/DB models price is only half from KV-HR.

any 360 users ere using the viewsonic 20.1" vx2025?
tot of gettin it since theres offer in the bulk section.
but afraid if theres any real issue for this lcd when playin 360...

any help/review would be grateful..
thx!

edited:
i already read some reviews for 360 when googled.. they said the only drawback is its not built in scaling function or sumthin like dat..

i dont realy understand it,dats y i post just wana hear some reviewers here



This post has been edited by UltramanToron: Jun 30 2006, 11:27 AM

I'm using a VX2025wm with the Xbox 360. It does not have pixel matching meaning that it will stretch any non-widescreen input to fill the entire screen instead of adding black bars on the sides.

This is not an issue with the Xbox 360 as the video signal is in widescreen. Possible problems if you use it for PC gaming and the game does not support widescreen. However, you can always enable pixel matching using your video game drivers. From what I have read from the [H]ardForums (probably the same place where Google sent you), there are issues with 7900 users as it seems the pixel matching cannot be switched on.

If you only want to use the VX2025wm with the Xbox 360 then it's not a problem. If you want to use it with your PC as well, you are ok as well unless you happen to use a 7900 video card.

just bought xbox360 kick-off premium set.
just need an advice regards viewsonic 19" n 20.1" widescreen lcd monitor?
what are the differents for these two monitors other than just 1 inch size only? but the price of vx2025wm needs pay another RM500 of it!

If you only wish to use the Viewsonic with the Xbox 360 and save some money, the VA1912wb is probably fine. But if you wish to use it with your PC as well, I'll advise to get the VX2025wm as it has higher resolution, higher contrast and DVI input for better looking text.

well..if u can afford the 20 inch then u should definately go fr it im using a 19inch widescreen myself and ive gotta say its friggin awesome
another question u might want to ponder on is "how often will u be gaming on ur 360?" coz if ur answer is like twice a week/only during the weekends..then why waste the extra RM500 eh? besides..LCD prices are known for dropping really fast and really steep. About a month ago the LCD model ur looking to get cost RM1700 fr the 20inch
hope this helps u make ur decision

What's your brand? cuz i'm considering a 19'' wide lcd for my 360

thx ur guys.
just bought viewsonic 19" widescreen...looks awesome (value for money).

Yeah, 19" widescreen is indeed value. Now I think you can get it for less than RM1000, which is amazing since I got mine about 3 months ago for RM1350 But no regrets, it was worth it, I can't imagine playing my 360 on a non-widescreen res

Now I'm just waiting for 24" to go down less than RM2K

aiseh dont say like that lah... i am using a refurbished 21" crt monitor for my 360 only

21" CRT monitor is pretty good what..... CRT monitors will always be better than LCDs in terms of picture quality for sure.

I'm thinking of buying a widescreen LCD since the price now are getting more and more affordable.

A question here. IINM, LCD monitor can only achieve optimal display quality on native resolution. If I buy a 19" Widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1440x900 and connect my Xbox 360 to it using a VGA cable, will I notice image quality loss? IINM, Xbox 360 can only display up to 1360x768 only on VGA cable, which is lower than the LCD's native resolution.

should be ok, try this article.

some sample of lcd photo with xbox 360..dunno if someone already posted it..

with Dell 24"


with viewsonic 19"

hehe..sorry fr late reply...mines CMV...cheapest with pretty good specs...only one down side i can see = 1 year warranty viewsonic gives 3

guys, for those who play on crt and lcd monitors (not lcd tv), how to get sound. i'm tired of plaing wihout any sound. for time being i'm searching for this:



any other sugestion?

just buy the 2.1 pc speaker with subwoofer settle already... if you can wait then wait for pc fair on 11th august... subsribed to HWM magazine for 12 months and get a free edifier speaker. i got mine free from the previous pc fair. just paid rm144 for the 12months subscription and free rm179 edifier 2.1 speaker

thinking of fully utilised my available resouces because since my pc and xbox360 share the same monitor, i think there's no harm in sharing the speaker too. hehehe.

Question here,

Xbox360 VGA HD AV Cable
Xbox360 D Terminal HD AV Cable ( this is my current connection )
Xbox360 Component HD AV Cable
Xbox360 S Video AV Cable

Which 1 is the best ? i have all above connection. need some comments.

Heyyy!! The Dell 24" Looks incredible , how much is it??

by the way, im using a LG 17" FLATRON L1750SQ monitor and a X-230 logitech speakers, can my speakers connect to the 360 and is my monitor good enough? thanks

um,dell 24" 2.9k,wait till next week coz got pcfair rite?maybe got dc
um better get widescreen,me oso on 20" and 24" dell widescreen

the 24" is 2.6k now

*edit: sorry, that's the corporate price. just checked the web, its still 2.9k for retail

This post has been edited by hikaru_x: Aug 2 2006, 08:42 PM

oh ya price drop very fast edi
dell website; 2.9k -> dell widescreen

yeah but can i still use my LG flatron ? (of cuz i can but is it reccomended cuz i got no money to get a new one, still shud b orait what. im using 1280x960 and 1280x1024 res when playing on this, so can rite)

This post has been edited by daidzz: Aug 2 2006, 09:12 PM

Yes, still can. Most game can run in 4:3 aspect ratio, but some games are known to force you to run in widescreen mode, so on normal 4:3 monitor, you'll have black bars on the top and the bottom.

Game that I know that force you to use widscreen ratio is, Condemned, Lost Planet (Demo).

i use on my dell E173FP @ 1280x1024 occasionally.... no problem. is it an LCD? try to match the native resolution for best image quality. if CRT no problemo

okay, so if i send u the link for my LCD monitor, can u rate it please mr chicken (avatar)?

You already mentioned that you're using LG FLATRON L1750SQ.

Yes, you can still use that monitor to play Xbox 360. I suggest you to use 1280x1024 resolution.

Like I said before most game can run fullscreen in 4:3 aspect ratio, but some games (example, Condemned, Lost Planet) are known to force you to run in widescreen mode, so on normal 4:3 monitor (like the one you have), you'll have black bars on the top and the bottom.

I think it's ok to just use the current LCD monitor and upgrade to widescreen LCD when you have enough money. I only have normal CRT monitor and plan to upgrade to widescreen LCD too when I have enough money.

This post has been edited by mzaidi: Aug 2 2006, 09:21 PM

http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/l1750sq.jhtml

Yes that is true.... Will my monitor then lose a LOT of quality of the xbox 360? becuase i think 1280x1024 is actually really good for something temporary, when i get the money id get the dell 24" and continue using this one for my PC. I am getting my 360 this month, what games do you highly recommend to get, (including recommendation for online play) thanks alot!

Nope, the highest resolution that Xbox 360 can get (on PC Monitor when using VGA-HD cable) is 1280x1024 (1.31 MegaPixel).

On HDTV, the resolution is 720p (1280x720, 0.92 MegaPixel) and also 1080i (1920x1080, 2.07 MegaPixel).

Dell 24" Widescreen support 1080i (1920x1080) when you use component cable, and not the VGA cable.

For me, released game that I like (not in particular order):

1) Dead or Alive 4.
2) Project Gotham Racing 3
3) Kameo: Elements of Power
4) Ridge Racer 6
5) Perfect Dark Zero
6) [eM] - eNCHANTED aRM -
7) Ninety-Nine Nights
8) Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter
9) The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
10) Burnout Revenge

You might want to check game review, your taste might be different from mine.

wonder how u rate the games since u dont even own 1.

Haha. I do own Perfect Dark Zero : LE & Kameo.

I rate the game based on the feedback I receive from those who have played the game, and I do like the genre of the games I listed above, that's why I said his (daidzz) taste might be different.

If everything goes the way I planned, I'll get my 360 next week

This post has been edited by mzaidi: Aug 2 2006, 10:12 PM

Oh, im gettin my xbox 360 in 2 weeks and a half, i dont like the genre of games listed up there at all XD haha i want a FPS and another game. recommend pls

FPS game ...

Battlefield 2 Mordern Combat
Call of Duty 2

G.R.A.W

I already suggested G.R.A.W and he said he don't like it.

same here guys. im gettng mine arnd the 3rd week of august. fps? im gettng graw. is farcry instincts predator any good? or quake 4? or bf2? (is it better on the 360 than on the pc?)

one question.. im wondering.. im planning on gettng an lcd monitor.. i've break it down to 2 monitor but still deciding.. in terms of performance, which is better between these two. Dell 2407WFP or Viewsonic vx2025 vm? need . thanks guys.

For the monitor, I'll say Dell 2407WFP because it has a component input and you can go up to 1080i (1920x1080, though some gamers prefer 720p mode) where on normal VGA-HD cable, you can only go up to 1280x1024 only.

Also, it's 4" bigger than Viewsonic.

Sorry mzaidi, i liked G.R.A.W but not most of the others

im thinking of getting G.R.A.W and another game, btw is graw coop compatible?

yes, graw can co-op. thru system link or over LIVE.

after few months thinking of whether to buy the monitor or not, i finally bought dell 2407 from dell website that cost me RM2449. My monitor will arrive tomorrow and I cant wait to trash it this weekend... yahoo...

Prey
GRAW
COD2

wah.. price went down so much? last time was 2999.. bro, whn u get it.. pls do a review yeah? & also pics cos planning to get it also.. but too expensive la.. another alternative i have is the Acer AL2216W 22 inch Wide Screen LC... price is at 1300... hmm...decisions, decisions..

i placed my order last Monday, somehow when i went to the dell site, it stated RM2449 so I quickly jumped into the offer. The next day, the price went back up again at RM2699. But not to worry, the price of the monitor should go down again soon, probably in two months time it could be RM1999.

xbox 360 on a 43" plasma .. really rocks..

The HD make it looks really really good..

i envy u man