Has anyone worked in Australia before?
Care to share ur experiences, be it sweet or bitter.
How is the competition among Australians?
Is it worth it to work in Australia, away from home.
How is the living expenses in Australia?

if you are a fresh grad, will be hard for you to get a job, since u need to compete with Aussie and those graduated in Aus.. even if you are an experienced worker, its gonna be hard also..as they usually will prefer those with local Australia experience, unless ur skills is in demand and it difficult to get an Australian to fill the job..

and of course the first thing u must have is right to work there..as in you must have a visa..without that no one will even look at your CV..even with visa, it will be hard for you to look for job from Malaysia, as they prefer you to be there so they can interview u anytime..

Australia is famous for laid-back lifestyle, and usually u can go home by 5 or 6pm..(depends on industry lar) as they value family time.. thats y shopping centre also closes at 5pm :-)

huge chunk of your money will be for the rent, other than that, everything will be reasonable..as long as you are earning Aussie dollar, it should be okie..

worth it or not, its up to you on how you see it.. and dont expect bed of roses or even 'greener grass' there..

you can visit Whirlpool its something like Lowyat here..


This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 27 2011, 01:16 AM

If you don't have some sort of residency status that allows you to work there, then no point asking.

People always thinks that the grass is greener over there.
This is the wrong perception

if you really, really, REALLY want to work in Australia, die, die also want to work and live in Australia and don't care about anything else but working/living in Australia the only way i can see is that you attend nursery courses to become a nurse. I know Australia are so short on nurse that if you graduate from your nursing school, those hospitals (private or public) are willing to sponsor a work permit/PR for you. Pay is decent and hours are long (due to severe shortage) but hey, you get to live and work in Australia

Dailo, I'm male la. Moreover it's a big deviation from my engineering profession.

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Added on August 27, 2011, 3:42 pmHave u worked in Australia or studied there before?


This post has been edited by T3N5AI: Aug 27 2011, 03:42 PM

aiyo, male also can be nurse mah.. :-)

yup, i worked in Oz before...

as mentioned by others :
1- u must have a valid visa, if u dun have, no need to consider about working there..
2- dun expect life will be better there, as there are some that struggle and came back..

Siu ti ti, there are many male nurses around.....

yes as male nurse u can attend the male patient, bath for them and wash their private part. some people like it

If you don't have pr/citizenship, most job doesn't wants you as well though... unless your grades in uni is superb or your experiences in your field are in high demand

Well, looking at the best way to apply for PR. But looks like there are no shortcuts.

Hmmm... How hard is the life in Aus? I mean it isn't exactly easy in Malaysia either.

Exactly why did u come back anyway? Isn't the work life in Aus better?

definitely no shortcuts for PR application..and now its getting harder to get one..

its hard in Aus, if you dont know anyone there, as you need to worry about job and accommodation..and both does not comes easy as you need to compete with locals there..especially rentals..not easy to get one, even if you are offering to pay in advance for 6 months, some owner wont want to rent to you coz you dont have any reference or record in australia....

in msia, you will be better as ur family is here to provide accommodation, and job wont be that hard to find, as long as you dont have high requirement lar..and also you';; have plenty of friends here..

as mentioned lotsa times, dont look at the currency, i mean im sure u look at in Aus, you will be earning 3x RM, but its not easy to get a job, and taxes is high and as well as rent .. grass is not greener there..and you might need to work a job that is not ur profession, i do have a friend is working a non-related job for almost 2 years already just to survive there..

i came back due to family issue, but i will be moving to Aus again in Jan permanently :-)



This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 28 2011, 03:13 PM

i am convince on the currency and tax is high

but but why u still going back to australia and permanent somemore ??? care to share ??

i've got PR and dont want to waste it, since its so hard to get it now..
and furthermore i've already got some Oz experience and know some friends there already, so might not be that hard for me in terms of job and rent..but it will also takes time for me to get a job since i left for 1+ year ...
if not bcoz of family issues, i wont be back here.. :-)

I'm in da construction field rite now. Do u think I stand a chance against da Aussies?

Job, I don't think it's easy, but to be honest, to me, it's da same in Malaysia and Australia. I started with nothing in Malaysia, I think I can start da same way in Australia.

Some say discrimination, but yet, aren't we in da same situation here in Malaysia?

I think for everything, da start is da most bitter part. As time passes, everything will straighten out.

My point would be da same as others. 1k Aussie saved is 3k RM saved when brought to Malaysia.
Da math is easy. I work 1 yr in Aus equals to 3 yrs in Malaysia. I mean, y not?

last few years when my gf studied there
she stumbled upon a restaurant with a signboard that says
"No Asian and strictly no Chinese"

And my Japanese friend when i was in Japan
he used to study over there, he had an experience kicked out of a bar
because he is an Asian

This post has been edited by totti 10: Aug 29 2011, 05:43 AM

I don't think that would comply very well with the "Racial Discrimination Act". You should ask your gf to inform the local news or an independent senator - maybe somebody like Nick Xenophon if the restaurant is in SA.

i've no idea about the construction line, you've to do your own research..
yes, i agree things is hard in the beginning..but whether will you get a job in your own line or any job, its another story....
if u are willing to take the risk, its up to you..

c, i told you..u r looking at 3xRM..as said, taxes and rent is high there..u might be able to save.. but dun look at working there for a year, meaning earning 3x in MY..

since you dont have a PR, i guess the 1st thing u need to worry is whether you qualify to get one or not, if you didnt even have enough points..u dun even have to think the next step...
if you are below 30, you can apply for WHV to experience the life there..

This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 29 2011, 11:59 AM

Australians are really into home improvement and renovation. A lot of people actually work as renovator and make a lot of money out of it. They basically get an old place, renovate, resale and can get like 100k+ over few months. So you can consider to be a freelance PM if you do not want to or can't get a permanent role in developer firm.

However, housing market is going down and going slow. Australia is one of the most expensive country in the world. I am staying in Sydney and Sydney is number 4 or number 5 most expensive city in the world. The issue here is the same as in Malaysia, inflation is high and salary increment doesn't really keep up. Unless you are able to earn AUD spend in MYR, you won't be saving money and go back to Malaysia and retire early.

Migration, be it city to city or from country to country is a choice of life style. I would never encourage anyone to do it if your only/major concern is money. Again, I am in Sydney, so there is probably nothing different to KL. You get mamak till 2am (only in weekend though). Jusco/Giant equivalent supermarket opens till 12 midnight everyday, Kmart opens 24 hours ... and yes you get your normal kl nightlife in the city. Plus, there are as many asians in Sydney as in kl, though there are many koreans and chinese.

Construction? Jangan harap.

Without an apprenticeship, a few years in the trade and recognition by a body like the master builders association. Probably not.

VETASSESS is the body that reviews your experience and without paper qualifications and proven knowledge of AS/AZS, they won't give you the skill assessment you need.

Plus construction is one of those businesses that are heavily unionized and extremely anti immigrant (Already had that whole korean workers fiasco down in Gold Coast a few months back)

There's always that issue of passing immigration in the first place of course. They're cutting out most trades in the SOL.

seeking job(especially not local or PR) is definitely hard!!damn hard..

i am fortunate enough to get a job (after 5 months of non stop looking) with 1 of the education provider in melbourne as IT helpdesk. salary is way higher than i expected(because it's a casual role with full time hours). helpdesk is just a stepping stone for me to get experience

im now in bridging visa while awaiting for TR(which may take up to 2 years to get approved) and my working place is full of multiracial people(indian background born from different countries, vietnamese, indonesian,local and chinese malaysian which is me). everyone is great and helpful. im happy for now and looking for professional cert to boost up my career

This post has been edited by hihihehe: Aug 29 2011, 07:27 PM

Actually if you live in Sydney/Melbourne, yr net cash holding after netting off taxes, rent and expenses is very low. Unless you are planning to work in Aus for a couple of years then come back to M'sia, then only will it benefit you. Otherwise, if you earn and spend there, it's almost the same as M'sia. i.e. you won't get to save much. Things there are not excatly cheap especially eating out. It cost almost the same as M'sia(although portion is bigger).

+1..totally agree

but i don't think i will spend the rest of my life in australia(too boring!). but if i work in malaysia,i dont think i can save money too because of too much activities.

but i managed to save half of my salary every month and plan to get my own house in next 2 years at malaysia.

the good thing about earning AUD is that i have the power of buying thing with fortnight salary compare to MYR which need to save for few months. not to forget i have super on top of my salary.

Well said.
I think it's a good place to earn money, for a start. To be honest, salary scale for starters in Malaysia is really peanuts compare to Aus. For a normal uni fresh grad to live a comfortable life, owning a house, a decent car, to start a small family, u need at least 5k on ur salary scale if u r living in kl or pj.

If u r thinking of eating out everyday, I dun think u will be able to save any money.

I actually get many different opinions bout working in Australia. Some are looking forward to the working life there where it's less stressful and better paid. Some say it's a good place to earn money but not a good place to start a family and eventually u will have to return to ur home country after a few years. Some even say the opportunity in Malaysia is much greater than Australia.
I say, I'll have to check out da place myself to see whats it like to work in australia.

Some say discrimination is bad. But aren't such incidents happening around us? Even in schools, outside world, all around us, discrimination is everywhere.

Money, da money u save is worth 3 times if u return to Malaysia. Working 3 yrs in Australia almost equals to working for 10 yrs in Malaysia. Dat is provided u manage to save equal amount of money ignoring the currency exchange.

What say u?

my advise to you is, if you are firm to work there for a try..
get a PR now if you are qualify..as rules will change in July..
no point getting opinions on the environment there and in the end you cant even work there..

Do u mean to say that the rules will change again in July 2012?
I thought da point system has just revised in July 2011?

Yea, it's getting harder to obtain the PR status. In da past election, it was their to priority for both parties to reduce the immigrant numbers. It's just too bad that I did not qualify for it back when the process was still more lenient.

normally rules will be amended during the new financial year, which is July..but during last few years, rules did change before July as well..you can always go to DIAC and check out..i heard EOI (Expression of Interest) will be introduce next year, but not sure for which subclass..(since i dun really bother to update myself anymore..)

my advise is, if u qualify now, get all your docs ready and submit, no point waiting and getting so many opinions..since u r firm going there and try your luck no matter how we tell u the grass is not greener there if your main point of working there is due to currency..

probably u can ask again when u got ur PR in another year or so whether its worth it to go there or not..since circumstances will change every now and then..be it yourself or Aus environment..i dont mean to be blunt, but nothing to advise you since u dun even have the right to work there now and environment will definitely change when u got ur PR...for eg, i've few friends still waiting for the PR after 2 years.. so now they told me if they managed to get it, they might not even wanna go there, coz now they have a family already and their job is stable and salary has been revised to good $$..

and plz read more facts to get more information on the Aus migration..where im sure you can google to find....most forums (dont ask me where, i didnt save the bookmark) that i visited, if u ask a simple question, u will be bombarded in every direction, so read your facts and ask smartly..

what i can share with you is, i get information online for about 1+ years about the process and started to know almost everything i needed on the visa class that im applying, and only started asking questions after that about what im unsure.... coz i DIY and didnt engage an agent for my process..dun expect being spoonfeed by forumners... coz everyone have a different case..

This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 31 2011, 09:23 AM

And even though you can qualify for PR, you need to calculate the cost for the application too. PR application will cost you around $2.2k. Also you need to take IELTS(around $350), medical(around $250), police check(around $50), skill assessment(depends which occupation you're on. mostly above $300) and some minor cost. Total up will cost you around $AUD 3k or RM9500.

Is like investment. Invest some money to get either better life(better job and money) or bad life(jobless,etc).

Fortunately I applying TR with my gf(de facto) and the cost is split to the half.

PR visa cost is A$2960 as at now..i still remembered when i applied, its only A$2k..:-)
in MY will be more than that i guess..

During my time..
Visa -> A$2k (its A$2960 now)
IELTS -> RM510
Medicals -> RM150
PCC -> RM20
Skills assessment -> A$300

Now, you need to check for the updated fees...and also factor in agent fees is you are engaging one..


This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 31 2011, 11:35 AM

Wow, the last time i saw(march 2011) is around $2.2k but is either I made a mistake or they just increase the price.
But yeah, it's getting more and more expensive. If your parents is rich then this is not a concern.

Anyway, is not really you won't success in Malaysia too. Or you can try Singapore,etc

Just saw this thread, and I just moved here 4 months ago, and lucky me found a job in just 2 weeks (was offered on the spot). Came with no job, no money, only got honey. Initially I was warned that it will be tough for me to find a job since every tom, d*** and harry has a degree and mine is from a local Uni. They did not even look at my qualifications (as in uni degree lah, but i graduated more than 2 years ago.. so.. no need see anymore lah).

I'm in the IT industry and most of the job opportunities are in Syd (while I'm based in Melbourne). But I would say that, never try never know! Or perhaps I am just a lucky b**** (yes, i'm a female)... Life's good, co-workers great, job is awesome and everything is nicely in place for now.

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Added on August 31, 2011, 6:26 pmBy the way, they revise the immigration fees/rules every year in July.

This post has been edited by static: Aug 31 2011, 06:26 PM

ya, IT got a lot of demand, as long as u r experienced and know ur stuff well, then will not be hard if u r not choosy.....

This post has been edited by annielee: Sep 1 2011, 10:46 AM

IT industry only demanding for experienced people.. It will be a lot tougher for fresh graduate(like me) trying to step in.

Of course da application fees is an issue. Or else I wouldn't have given it a second thought. 10k is not easy to save working in Malaysia. Plus ur starting expenses upon reaching Australia. If ur application fails, ur 10k is as good as nothing. = (

This post has been edited by T3N5AI: Sep 1 2011, 10:26 AM

I would suggest that attitude is another plus point as well. When I first started working, I took a job offer doing SAS which is not a well known field at that time, SAP is wayyy more in demand and pays exceptionally well but I wanted something different. My salary is shit, it was only borderline compared to other uni mates who earn 1k more than me, but i am doing it for the experience. After a while, gaji still shitty since starting salary is low, it's hard to 'jump' esp in the IT line, they will always look at your previous income. When I got here, my experience was recognised though I am no longer doing SAS, and more of a specialised role in the bank. Starting pay is just average, but I guess they were 'evaluating' me still, and now I got a promotion, raise and a permanent role with great benefits.

The fees are expensive, yes, but if you don't sacrifice, you get nothing.

Well, I dunno bout IT, but I'm in da engineering field, to be specific, construction. Isn't dat a sacrifice when my friends in o&g r earning twice to 3 times more than me. And my friends in IB are earning my double.

To me, it's very hard to predict da future of ur occupation. It all lies with responsibility, importance, and economies of scale.

Too many people are doing IT, lots of competition especially I have to compete with Aus grads and have local experience. Yes, they would prefer those with local experience or AUS degree. I was lucky to have some contacts in the IT industry when I first came out to work and told me which 'path' i should take even though I may suffer for few years.

Engineering in Aus is a skill that they are looking isn't it? Saw it somewhere before... I'll post up a link once I manage to find it.

you dont have to 'waste' >10k from the beginning..
the first 2 task u need to get is your skills assessment and IELTS test done..(and these can take few months)
after these 2 are approved, then only u file for the PR application, u also have the option to file later if you dont have enough money as the results is valid for 2 years if im not wrong..

but i will file asap when i got approved for skills and IELTS, to avoid any changes to rules...

I shall heed ur advice and go ahead on these 2 tasks. Ielts is a must and the tests are held all year round, unless there is a special paper for PR applicants.

Skills assessment test on da other hand, I dun think I have any info on this but I shall check it out.

Thanks for da advice. Do u mind if I pm u if I have any queries?

true, IELTS are available all year round, but i remembered during my time only Sat available for the test (writing, listening, reading) and speaking on a different day..i didnt managed to book on the same day for all paper coz i booked it quite late..and all the slots taken up already..and you need to book in advance..i booked mine 2 months in advance..and you need to take the General one and not the Academic..

im not sure about now, it might change already.. google and find out more..

im not an expert in these, and my info already outdated..since i got my PR 3 years ago..which is why i advise you to read more.. since u mention this is an expensive journey..and better do some homework yourself and not depends on others.. and google will be your best friend here..thats what i used..

and actually, what i advise to my friends is 1st go to those migration agency (better if u can goto 2 different agency) usually they will provide free assessment and evaluate your eligibility..if their advise is go ahead, then u can confirm u got enough points and of course u dont have to use them..
listen to what they say and ask as many question as possible and decide from there..

It's good that there is a guideline to follow for PR application unlike Singapore where they approve at their discretion. Anyway, i remember there was a portion that indicate how many points you get based on your occupation when i did my readings few years back. It's no longer applicable? From what i see now, so long you fall under Skilled Occupation List, you get the points.

If i meet the criteria of the Points Test and come clean, what are the chances for them to reject my PR application? I mean, of course you wouldn't know but have you guys heard of such cases? Usually what are the rejection reasons?

This post has been edited by Argiope: Sep 2 2011, 04:18 AM

10k from the beginning is not necessary if u think u can get the money in time...

but its better to get 10k first before lodge PR so that u won't stress in the middle of application

rules change already.. you need to go to Aus Immigration for the new points system..

wah..what do you mean by come clean ? u plan to lie on your application ? as long as you meet the requirement you should get ur PR..unless rules changes.. rejection reasons..i've read before the employment verification fail or even the medicals fail..

This post has been edited by annielee: Sep 2 2011, 11:34 AM

Nolah of course not. I mean assuming i pass my Points Test, medical test, Accessing Authority and come clean by no criminal records etc. i should be getting my PR right?

In Aussie, you meet the points you get it. In Singapore, this PR thing is very grey and you have no idea whether you meet their internal criteria or not so just apply only. If it gets approved then you are lucky lol.

yes..Aus PR is straightforward, as long as you meet the requirements, your PR should be approve ..
unless they announced to cut the no of immigrants or even change the rules ..

I'm working in Aussie now. I don't have a PR but I managed to get a work visa sponsored by my employer.

Life here is pretty laid back. Go home at 5pm everyday. But like some people have mentioned, taxes are high and rent is expensive. My rental and my monthly repayment for my car already take up 70% of my monthly salary.

So far, if I compare my savings between when I first got here and now, my savings is going into the negatives. haha but I consider them to be initial start up costs that I have to pay. Once I get my promotion, I should be fine and be able to start saving.

Did you buy a new car? We bought a 12 yr old Holden, LOOOL! We only need it go get around to places, I take the train to work since only 2 stations away. My bf drives to work lah, but his workplace is nearby as well. We plan to get a new car in 2 years time, but if this oldie still serves us good, then we'll continue driving it

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Added on September 2, 2011, 6:20 pmI do agree, I work from home sometimes as we've just moved in to a new apartment and lots of errands to run. Occasionally, we have long lunches that stretches up to 4 hours, which was paid for by the company! Come 5pm, all pang kang. I am lucky that my cab fares are being paid for as well (if I really need to use it, as I need to travel to other offices), using cabcharge cards, and they are not cheap! An average of 200AUD a week.

When I came here, I don't have much money as well, and I do agree it's the initial settling down costs that are very expensive. Over time, you can save again

This post has been edited by static: Sep 2 2011, 06:20 PM

My rent eat up 25% of my monthly salary and im staying in the city(5 minutes walk to work) so i don't need a car yet.
I'm now still following my student's "budget life" and saved me a lot of money except i can go for expensive foods outside without thinking twice.

most of my colleagues have car but they only drive to train station because parking in CBD is way expensive.

btw, my manager let me go 2 hours earlier from work because not that busy which is awesome

My parking is paid for but no car T_T... rather take the train anyway, cos it's only 5 mins walk from home. Plus, I still have my car back in KL! Ouch.

btw i heard there will be carbon tax on next year?

Yeah, mid 2012. More $$$ going out

tax everywhere

whats next? green tax?

i tot there's flood levy introduced already..

Yay to tax return, my first time filing it.

May I know if you were doing SAS in Malaysia or Australia?

This post has been edited by DaViDcHiN: Sep 8 2011, 06:09 PM

WORKED IN MNC in AUS 2 years..

Hate it and Love it

*Hate -
Australias takes train and trams back to home / happy hours at 4.45

Asians take train and trams back to home / sleep at 8.45-9.30.

HIGH Tax!!!!


*Love
Weather , Cheap Cars, SALARY , UNIONS

This post has been edited by whojen: Sep 9 2011, 12:39 AM

UU live with ur bf? How u managed job there? Holden is powerful la. Can serve u till 30 yrs. Low cost fuel consumption, 28km/ litre. Good buy

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Added on September 9, 2011, 8:34 amIn aus holden how much? In here holden still quite pricey and extinct about 10k ringgit.

This post has been edited by Materazzi: Sep 9 2011, 08:34 AM

I'm a bit confused. How come we're talking about PR already? Don't you have to work/live in Australia for a few years before you can file for a PR status?

you are wrong...you cant even work if you dont have a PR..
unless you are on sponsored working visa..

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Added on September 9, 2011, 11:49 amwhy you need to go back at 8plus ?
i used to work in MNC in Oz as well.. we went back the same time :-)

This post has been edited by annielee: Sep 9 2011, 11:49 AM

I think he's saying that the Aussies are occupied with after-work stuff, i.e. happy hours whereas Asians not so fond of that so go straight home after work nothing to do then sleep early at 9?

not for all Asians.

depends who you mixed with

Sorry, you confuse me even more ...

So, does it mean that when he moves to Australia for job search, he already needs to apply for PR?
Normally PR for other countries can only be obtained after a few years of residence in that country. That's why I'm confused .. because he's still in Malaysia.

Australia is different, need PR/visa in order to work..
So i guess your friend already has a PR or relevant visa for him to search job in Australia..
Without that, he cant even look for a job there..

Ok .. so people like me who are still in Malaysia, and wants to work in Australia, what should I apply? Am I qualify to get a PR?

I did SAS in Malaysia for 2 years, also some SSIS/SSRS since I am project based. Whatever boss say, must do loh

Initially plan to do SAS in Aus, got in touch with the HR manager, but he was slow and got offered a better role (not SAS)

Are you doing SAS in Msia? With SAS Institute direct or vendor?

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Added on September 11, 2011, 12:30 pmYou can still apply, and if the company really wants you, they will sponsor you for a visa, but that is not easy.

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Added on September 11, 2011, 12:34 pmYup, living with bf. I started applying for jobs before I even apply for my visa and got a few positive responses (as they don't have to sponsor me), i will be getting my own anyway. So when I arrive, I recontacted them (and applied for a few more) and things just fall into place. Lucky I guess, got job and working on the 4th week.

We paid 3k for the Holden Vectra and another 2k or less for maintenance (change front tyre, tuning, etc) and roadworthy. Got it off a friend

This post has been edited by static: Sep 11 2011, 12:34 PM

depends on your points.. do read up in DIAC website..
click on the Finding Visa to see whether you qualify or not..
im no migration agent, so cant advise you on whether you qualify or not.. if you want to know further, do meet up with those agency for initial free assessment...

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Added on September 11, 2011, 1:33 pmsince im coming end of december, i guess i cant contact the recruiter before hand..will start looking for job only in Feb...
will travel around australia for a while first since i didnt have the chance to do that when i was there..

wats the mileage of the holden vectra that you bought ?

This post has been edited by annielee: Sep 11 2011, 01:33 PM

what's the job prospect for accounting graduate from Uni of Sydney like?

im not in accounting, cant advise...
you can visit Whirlpool Graduate forum for more information..this is an Oz based forum..
enjoy your reading there..

This post has been edited by annielee: Sep 11 2011, 02:53 PM

Alamak, not too sure, bf handles the car issue. I just sit next to him and become my driver

so, which suburb you/bf stay now ?
will def look for you when im there..

Hello All,

Are there anyone who is staying and living in Adelaide?

Started my migration application. Have just passed my IELTS with average 8.0 (Min all modules to be 7.0) - Ielts is not easy. Spent 2 hours/day for 3 weeks. The writing part is the most difficult tasks.

Waiting for my AIM - job skill evaluation report.

Hope to hear from someone who is in Adelaide.

Cheers

annielee, you can work if you're on spouse visa, defacto, prospective marriage visa, etc. Not necessarily need PR to work

Not sure about fresh aus graduates...

what i meant is to find work, must have relevant working rights (be it under PR, spouse visa, or bridging visa....)

I'm in Adelaide! working on a South Australian government project ^^.. But will be moving to Brisbane soon..are you in Adelaide now?.I was sponsored to work in Australia btw..company will only sponsor my pr after 2 years with them..was working in Sillypore previously..

Cheers.

better in singapore or malaysia in terms of saving money and the city living? I am afraid it will be lonely place since my friend said OZ at 5 p.m all shops and malls close

I'm interested to work at australia permanently, where should i start? look for sponsors first?

Focus on getting a migrant visa first

Well I'm earning more in Australia even with the tax cuts..plus with LAHFA i don't get that much tax cuts anyway haha..

Personally for me Australia blows Singapore away in terms of quality of living it's not even close. Australia really feels like a breath of fresh air compared to a claustrophobic Singapore with all it's flats and crowd (I can't really get use to it even after a year). Personally I feel Singapore is more like a stepping stone country to better countries, never for long term living.

australia is definitely better in terms of saving money and the electronics are easily affordable too without saving money for few months(like malaysia).

agree..buying power in oz is definitely higher and better.. :-)

how does the property cost there? do you rent a room or own it>? my friend becomes PR when his father bought property in melbourne, she is so lucky, went monash univ with PR price, very cheap and she owns the property.
Heard car very cheap but rental costs high, 20-30% of salary.

there's no such thing that ur friend's parent become a PR after buying property there.. (i believe they did more like investor or business visa)

car is definately cheaper in Oz even after conversion..

house/rent depends where u buy/lease..if near to CBD, public transport or good school, it will be more expensive..

you can check out in RealEstate AU or Domain AU for houses

or CarSales AU

last time it will take up my one week salary for my monthly rent..so its about 25% of my salary..

Where should I start on getting a migrant visa?

Immi Au read and find out you qualify or not..

Sad... I don't think I'm qualify for anything

how do you manage a job there? interview? the cost too much expensive, one way air asia to there almost 1K RM. not worth if cannot manage a job there

i hope you are not referring to 'jump aeroplane' = working illegally there without appropriate visa :-)

i wish i can get that "almost RM1k" price to back malaysia for next year CNY.
cant find any better deal for now :/

now you cant get rm1k deal..if you buy during MAS/AA promo months ago..

the ticket will cost about RM1.6k via MAS...

yeah, not like earlier this year when i went back malaysia for just $120 including baggage and meal.

This post has been edited by hihihehe: Sep 16 2011, 09:34 PM

I wonder if there is some sort of forum or web board for malaysians living in Australia specifically? something similair to the Natui website (google) for thais residing in oz.

Please don't do that i.e. "jump aeroplane".
1. Its nearly impossible (or just down right impossible) for you to get a legal job there without PR/work permit.
2. Once caught, you will be rounded and thrown into camps for illegals to be deported to Malaysia. (Just like how M'sia round illegal bangla, myanmar, etc and deport them)
3. Your passport will kena chop mati for 5 years. That means in 5 years you cannot visit any country.
4. More likely, after the 5 years, you will be rejected by many countries since you have a record of overstaying.
5. You will cause Malaysia to be blacklisted for overstaying, thus Aus will have tougher immigrations checks for the rest of the Malaysian

P.S. You can say you don't care about point no.4. But if i or any Malaysian catch you working in Aus with no PR or permit, we will NOT HESITATE TO COMPLAIN TO THE AUTHORITIES to get you deported. Don't "cause harm to your neighbours" coz we still want to go to Australia.

actually there is a forum for Malaysian in Australia....

GMN

but now many of us 'chatting' over in FB already..