QUOTE(White Knight @ Oct 20 2011, 11:02 PM)
Bro, thanks for sharing.
Btw if you look back at my previous comment posted today at 10:58am, I said give me a reliable source , not from you or the media. Unfortunately the source you gave me is from the media, AsiaOne News....is it a Singaporean media? I guess it must be a S'porean media.
Due to press freedom policy, the media can always blow an issue out of proportion & exaggerate the whole issue. Singaporean media & politicians are known to paint a bad picture about Malaysia (don't get me wrong, I am not supportive of the current Msian govt). One good example was the comments / bad mouth from the S'pore govt about Malaysia being leaked by Wilkileaks owned by Julian Asange. It left the S'porean govt red-faced & had lots of explanation to make to the M'sian govt.
Just fyi, Australian politicians would never make a comment about any articles published by the media. It's because due to press freedom, the media can write whatever they want to write regardless whether the articles are true, partly true or not true at all. The media can simply make up any story just to add more spice to it. The aust politicians if being asked by reporters to comment on any media articles, they always give the same answer "This news is from the media, I don't want to comment".
So come back to your link which was based from an unreliable media source. It says "Under Malaysian Law, those staying in the country illegally are subject to mandatory 6 lashes of cane, fine and up to 5 years in jail". Unfortunately it didn't tell the whole picture and maybe this is the way of their propaganda against Malaysia.
The truth is this penalty only applies to those WHO UNLAWFULLY RETURN TO MALAYSIA AFTER REMOVAL . The law didn't even mention the penalties to those who enter Malaysia illegally for the first time. It's obvious their particulars will be taken down & will be deported back immediately.
Also under the Malaysian Immigration law, those WHO UNLAWFULLY RETURN TO MALAYSIA AFTER REMOVAL, the penalties are:-
1) fine not exceeding RM10,000 OR
2) imprisonment not exceeding 5 yrs or both and 6 strokes of cane
Here's the link for you to see http://www.lawyerment.com.my/library/doc/i...1000000-6.shtml
The above is a reliable link taken from the immigration law library & NOT from media. Remember it didn't mention any penalties for first time offenders
The AsiaOne News article also mentioned a London based group (but didn't say which group, they could be making up story again) said 34,943 whipping cases carried out for immigration offences between 2002 & 2008. Are they making up story again? first they didn't say which London group & secondly where the heck they get such an accurate figure of 34,943? do the prison authorities released that figures to them? or they just pick from the sky? Nobody knows how true it is.
Please do me a favour, congratulate AsiaOne News for succesfully exercising the freedom of press policy for giving a half but not fully misleading articles to the public.
Added on October 20, 2011, 11:08 pm
Bro, hope you don't mind if I ask you one personal question. Why you want to come to Australia? isn't S'pore good enough for you?
Lol such a heated debate. I'm doing this purely from a factual stand-point and I'm not trying to degrade you in anyway but I believe you are wrong. Malaysia Laws on Immigration Act clearly states:-Btw if you look back at my previous comment posted today at 10:58am, I said give me a reliable source , not from you or the media. Unfortunately the source you gave me is from the media, AsiaOne News....is it a Singaporean media? I guess it must be a S'porean media.
Due to press freedom policy, the media can always blow an issue out of proportion & exaggerate the whole issue. Singaporean media & politicians are known to paint a bad picture about Malaysia (don't get me wrong, I am not supportive of the current Msian govt). One good example was the comments / bad mouth from the S'pore govt about Malaysia being leaked by Wilkileaks owned by Julian Asange. It left the S'porean govt red-faced & had lots of explanation to make to the M'sian govt.
Just fyi, Australian politicians would never make a comment about any articles published by the media. It's because due to press freedom, the media can write whatever they want to write regardless whether the articles are true, partly true or not true at all. The media can simply make up any story just to add more spice to it. The aust politicians if being asked by reporters to comment on any media articles, they always give the same answer "This news is from the media, I don't want to comment".
So come back to your link which was based from an unreliable media source. It says "Under Malaysian Law, those staying in the country illegally are subject to mandatory 6 lashes of cane, fine and up to 5 years in jail". Unfortunately it didn't tell the whole picture and maybe this is the way of their propaganda against Malaysia.
The truth is this penalty only applies to those WHO UNLAWFULLY RETURN TO MALAYSIA AFTER REMOVAL . The law didn't even mention the penalties to those who enter Malaysia illegally for the first time. It's obvious their particulars will be taken down & will be deported back immediately.
Also under the Malaysian Immigration law, those WHO UNLAWFULLY RETURN TO MALAYSIA AFTER REMOVAL, the penalties are:-
1) fine not exceeding RM10,000 OR
2) imprisonment not exceeding 5 yrs or both and 6 strokes of cane
Here's the link for you to see http://www.lawyerment.com.my/library/doc/i...1000000-6.shtml
The above is a reliable link taken from the immigration law library & NOT from media. Remember it didn't mention any penalties for first time offenders
The AsiaOne News article also mentioned a London based group (but didn't say which group, they could be making up story again) said 34,943 whipping cases carried out for immigration offences between 2002 & 2008. Are they making up story again? first they didn't say which London group & secondly where the heck they get such an accurate figure of 34,943? do the prison authorities released that figures to them? or they just pick from the sky? Nobody knows how true it is.
Please do me a favour, congratulate AsiaOne News for succesfully exercising the freedom of press policy for giving a half but not fully misleading articles to the public.
Added on October 20, 2011, 11:08 pm
Bro, hope you don't mind if I ask you one personal question. Why you want to come to Australia? isn't S'pore good enough for you?
Control of entry into Malaysia
6. (1) No person other than a citizen shall enter Malaysia unless—
(a) he is in possession of a valid Entry Permit lawfully issued to him under section 10;
(b) his name is endorsed upon a valid Entry Permit in accordance with section 12, and he is in the company of the holder of the Permit;
© he is in possession of a valid Pass lawfully issued to him to enter Malaysia; or
(d) he is exempted from this section by an order made under section 55.
(3) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding ten thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both, and shall also be liable to whipping of not more than six strokes.
The link is here Immigration Act under Part II Section 6 (page 11). Hope this clears that up =) I agree with you that the media is completely overplaying the article and there is a HUGE difference between mandatory whipping versus "shall also be liable". That is completely factually inaccurate.
On a separate note, I find most Australians aren't racist and are generally friendly. But I've had friends who were racially abused when they were in uni here previously. There are bad eggs everywhere, don't let some racist bogans affect Malaysian's preception of Aussies.
This post has been edited by konichiwawa: Oct 21 2011, 08:36 AM
Oct 21 2011, 08:33 AM

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