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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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hajime86
post Jan 14 2012, 09:15 AM

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Hmmm, there's definately pros and cons staying / working in Australia.

I've been working in Australia for at least 2 years ever since I graduated.
You can say that I'm a few lucky ones that got scouted by an Australian company that based in Perth, hence the company is willing to organize a 457 working visa.
But that was 2 years ago, and even then the process actually took at least 3 months to complete. Not sure how tight the migration process now though.
Oh, note that I'm a geophysicist, which relates to the O&G industry, maybe that helps to speed up the process?

Well, I'm speaking of my personal experience so it will not reflect the general situation in Austalia.

For my company, its all about performance and final outcome. We have a very flexible working hour, you may come in at 9am and leave at 4pm if you want, as long as you finished your work.
You may even come in at 8pm and work till the next morning if that's comfortable with you.
I don't think most of the company in Malaysia allow these flexibility yet. Still adhered to the normal working hour 8-5 mindset.

The tax in Australia is very high though, especially you're an expat that come to earn AUD. The more you earn, the more tax you get.
My tax is close to 24%.

As for career advancement, my company practices the annual performance evaluation, so if you perform well, you'll be rewarded.
Its a fair fight for everyone.

Although I wouldn't deny that there is slight discrimination outside of my work, i.e patroning certain restaurant, shopping at the supermarket, or walking on the street.
I don't particularly disturbed by the occurrence, because some people are just like that.
Most of the time, the people in Australia are very friendly and polite.

Working in Australia, you gain new experience, visiting more places, and not to forget that it boosts your resume as well =)
hajime86
post Jan 16 2012, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Jan 14 2012, 01:09 PM)
The thing I notice is, the people that stereotype Asians, are just Asians themselves. I've seen very little places in Malaysia that need you to stay in office if there is nothing to do. Are there are a lot of work in Australia that needs to do unpaid overtime too...

Don't expect working environment will change to be better just because its in Australia. Its really down to individuals and down to the company that you are working in.
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Its true. It all depends to the individuals and the company.

My company didn't pay us any OT though, so staying longer in the office, won't gain you anything.
But, there are times that you need to work overtime, just because chasing deadlines, preparing reports and so on.

The effort you put up for your work, will be noticed, like taking responsibility of the projects, making sure its done.
Most often the westerners, as your boss will say to you, "Thanks for your hardwork" smile.gif . And again, if you got a caring boss that is.

hajime86
post Jan 17 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 17 2012, 03:14 PM)
Now you can clearly see, Ms. munkeyflo and all other forumers that I'm absolutely spot on. Didn't I tell you that any attempts to even question the working benefits in Aus will be taken personally (by Def and gang) and treated as if you have just insulted their "kingdom of heaven"!!! hahaha  thumbup.gif

These people are dead set in their mind (or in other words stubborn) that Aus is like heaven. Nothing and nobody can question it without them having something to say about everything, even things they don't know.

In short no point talking to them. It's like trying to convince a terrorist that suicide bombing is not going to help their cause, coz they are too "focused" on being a mytr and in the company of 72 virgins...

And they attack you personally and make baseless assumptions and accusations that i don't have a PR, that i work for mcdonalds and kfc and that all my stories are fake. Again like i said, they would rather choose to discredit the person and his source for having the temerity to destroy their "kingdom of heaven"!!!! 

Or maybe, I'm starting to suspect, that Def is actually a migration agent.Coz talking bad about Aus would invariably affect their migrate to Aus business. Business section ------> way.... doh.gif


Added on January 17, 2012, 3:23 pm
Careful there brother!
Later Def will come in and say that you're actually a "aeroplane jumper" to aus, and you know nothing about Aus enough to say the bolded part.  whistling.gif

He will also start to accuse you and ask you to PROVE that you have been to Aus. And even if you post a proof, he will discredit you and say that it was cropped.  thumbup.gif 

He will also label you a moron and a fake for questioning his "kingdom of heaven" known as Australia... wink.gif
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Australia is not perfect, no country is.
To question the benefit of working in Australia is just to bring forward discussion, i.e why is it not working out for you? what other people may have done to make it a better place for them?

I got collegue that chose to go back Malaysia to work as well, because her priorities in life are in Malaysia. Even though she's doing very well in Australia.
She missed her families in Malaysia, and wanted to settle down soon. Working in Aus, may or may not work out for everyone!

It is never a good idea to "jump aeroplane", that is just wrong. I know that people in desperation will try to use any means necessary to get into Aus.
That's because they thought it would be great opportunity in Aus, even though maybe working in a restaurant washing dishes, or handling apples at farm.

I too left Malaysia for a better opportunity, and it has not been always sunshine for me here. You missed the time you hang out with your buddies at Malaysia or enjoying the company of your familes.
Pros and cons bro... just that...
hajime86
post Jan 18 2012, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(White Knight @ Jan 18 2012, 07:12 AM)
I am particularly amazed with your statement in red. No PR but still can work in a very respectable bank in Aus. Can you share with us how you managed to do it? Only a fool will believe you. You don't realise that everytime you troll by posting fool comments, you are making yourself look more and more stupid.
If you think what you said is right, then I can also say I am holding a cabinet minister post in Spore eventhough I m not a Spore citizen, not a MP and never stood for the Spore general election.

The employment regulation in Aus is straight forward....an individual must has a PR in order to work in Aust.
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Hmmm... I'm working in Australia, and I am not a PR, I'm just holding a 457 business (long stay) visa.
That is if you got a sponsor company in Australia that want to employs you, and the job is considered as a in-demand too.
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(White Knight @ Jan 18 2012, 09:41 AM)
Yes we know that. 457 is a working visa (4 years, i guess) for for those who has a highly specialised skill (eg particularly IT, engineering, medical etc) which can hardly be filled by local people or in a high demand occupation list and the company is willing to sponsor you because they need your skill desperately. I have my Malaysian former schoolmate who's holding a 457 visa & he's in the water engineering line...a very specialised field.
I am sure you're in a specialised field. What field are you in? if you don't mind to share or you can just PM me.

For this mercury, he knows nothing abt visa 457 or other subclass visas. He works in a Singapore bank. Banking jobs have never never been on the demand list in Aust and it's ridiculous for an Aust bank to apply for a 457 visa. Unless the company is in a highly tech industry like engineering, IT, mining, medical, then I can understand. I am in the accounting line (though it's still on demand list) & it's also ridiculous for the Big 4 firm to apply for a 457 visa. This mercury is trolling around by posting stupid comments.
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Yup, 457 working visa allows you to stay as long as 4 years max. But it is also changed that time when I got mine, I only got 2 years visa, and now my company is helping me to revise the visa, extending for another 2-4 years stay.

I'm in the O&G industry, as a geophysicist. I think my company is in need of people that time, hence I got the offer to base permanent in Australia.
O&G and mining industry are strong in Australia, so I think there's a good chance to land a job if you're engineer or somewhat related profession.

As for mercury, it may be a possiblity that he obtained PR during his 3 years of study in Australia.
I only heard from friends, so dont take my word for it, but isn't it the eligbilty for PR is only 2 full years stay in Australia? Of course you need to pass their exams and fulfill certain criteria before granted PR.

I'm actually interested to see extremepower replies, so there're Malaysian community in Melbourne and Sydney that play badminton. Cool.
I'm currently in Brisbane by the way, any chance there's a similar group at here? smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2012, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(White Knight @ Jan 18 2012, 01:26 PM)
good on you, mate...you've a bright future in aus.


Added on January 18, 2012, 1:32 pm
while holding student visa, a student cannot apply for PR. Probably (I guess) after completing his study, this mercury tried to apply for PR but for whatever reasons, maybe his application was unsuccessful. That's why now he's holding the grudge for revenge & so jealous of people migrating.


Added on January 18, 2012, 1:34 pm
not so easy anymore. They're tightening the requirements.
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Thanks mate. Well, just "cari makan" here only. Been offered a better opportunity than I had in Malaysia, so, had to leave the home country.

Bout the requirements to get a visa in Australia, when I went for X-Ray examination for my visa renewal.
The doctor asked, "Hoping to get into Australia soon?". I replied, "Well, I'm hoping to renew my visa", and he scoffed me off and said "Hah, you wish, its much tighter nowadays". blink.gif

Not sure how true it is though.


QUOTE(extremepower @ Jan 18 2012, 01:55 PM)
Like I mentioned earlier. I also have friends working in BHP. Many of you shd know this company. It literally runs most of Australian cities like Wgong.

For Brisbane, can try UTQ or UQ lor.. or QBA.

Gold coast can try at Bond Uni or GC Baddy club.

Just a little joke. If you are in Australia and see someone wearing Yonex attires and Banana shoes (yellow). This guy sure malaysian one. Test him if he also talk like lcw.. lol wink.gif
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UQ ya, yeah, was planning to go and browse around if there's any good activities to join.


QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Jan 19 2012, 11:38 AM)
So you are in Brisbane? Are you working in CBM or conventional?
I got an offer from an Aussie CBM operator in Brisbane last month, but turned it down.
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Yeah, had been relocated from Perth to Brisbane. I'm mostly involved in the conventional project, i.e oil, gas, and sometimes coal.
New hip of the days, would be the CSG (coal seem gas) in Queensland smile.gif

Oh, you got offer ya, but turned it down? The offer not appealing enough? Hehehe...


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