i am aussie PR. qualified accountant. back in 2009. cannot find job. every day send application, from CFO position to a/c clerk position, also no proper interview. job agency will interview u, but it's like you just fill in the number for another guy to get the job.

but relative an engineer, got a good job. now proly aud 200k a year. only mining do well. if u over 35 yo. difficult. they dun wan to hire u thinking u will leave after they train u. stupid .

my fren work their in hotel. when he was 30 yo, he went over. had to start from bottom. hardest part, is report to younger & less experienced aussie. they all can talk until bird come down, but when u need doing. maybe 1 out of 10 can do only. he said aussie very rank conscious. once he got a small promotion, people start to see him as a person.


but perth is mining town booming.

unless u dun mind work in factory or kitchen. at least get min pay , about aud36000 a year.

stupid, i got skilled migration, but go work for factory. all this for my kids education....? some will do.

maybe better for next generation. otherwise, just go over for easy life. not stress.

I don't know why so many people are migrating to Australia. Some of these people are not even graduates, they are in their 30s and 40s. And most of them don't even have Australian degrees, they pay big bucks with migration agencies to get there.

I tell you ah, Australia is worst than Malaysia. The Aussies are the pure epitome of laziness. THey have been riding high on their mining sectors growth that they don't want to do simple jobs anymore, they sub out to the Asians. Over the years, Australia have failed to grow other sectors to match their mining growth. So if China fails, Australia is in deep s-h-i-t. Europe has high unemployment and high debt. USA although improving, but they will soon be cutting spending because they got $16.5 trillion debt. Thats going to severely effect the China growth.

I don't think Australia is able to keep up their extraordinary growth.

Already, South East Asia and China are becoming the destination for manufacturing jobs (the largest employment sector). Shares services - IT, Accounting, HR, procurement and credit control are coming to Malaysia because of our cheap skilled labor. At my friend's MNC company, he is hired to takeover the shared service job from his Australian counterpart. So whats left for migrants to seek jobs in AUstralia? The leftover jobs. Even worst, if you are not an Australian grad.

1) I know for a fact that many people who sutdied to become a doctor gets a PR after they finish med school. Besides, if there was no shortage, it wouldn't appear on their critical skills needed, correct?

Ok, let me edit abit.

1) No PR
2) No Aust. degree
3) Resume not attractive (must 3 page only)
4) Cover letter rubbish
5) Too straight, not social enough??
6) Without Ozzie add & phone no.
7) Without transportation
8) Without local driving license?

No it won't.

Because of the new World Order, western countries are moving more towards service sector orientated jobs and outsourcing manufacturing jobs to Asia.

But now, USA and Europe are suffering from economic catastrophe..they want their manufacturing jobs back. Its not as easy as ABC ya know.

Why?
1) Cost is higher due to ex rate
2) USA has really big problems with Unions, over the years their Unions have asked for very good pay packages for American workers and their Unions have caused a lot of strikes and walk-outs. This is why MNCs are not too keen to relocate back to America and Europe.
3) The Asia market is very big. It makes no sense to build a milk plant in USA then export the milk to China when you can build one in China. There are more milk drinkers in China than in the USA. I just using this as an example.
4) Again...Asia has high birth rates, India got 2 billion, China got 1.6 billion SEA got 560 million and Middle east got 450 million. The USA and Europe birth rates are declining. MNC profits are stagnating in their local markets...MNC CEOs are answerable to their shareholders, they need to seek new markets for income growth. Africa is still developing and volatile..so where is the most logical place..Asia.
5) Its a fallacy to think that Western workers can do a better job than us. A lot of people here may complain about malays and their working culture but I've worked for Australians before, they no different than us.
6) Asia is getting more highly skilled. People here can do the same job as their western counterparts for 1/3 of the cost. Asia has upgraded their airports, port terminals, roads, bridges and electricity grids...making them attractive for foreign investors.
7) Some Asia countries got rules, wanna do biz here, you need to set up your plant and provide jobs. So MNCs do this to capture the market. And then they found out its so much cheaper to do it in Asia and no Union problems. Then they say mind as well move all our manufacturing here.
8) Rules and regulations. Corps like Apple outsource their production to China because they don't want their products and labour rules to be scrutinized by strict adherence to regulatory bodies and laws in America.

Don't worry, unless the whole world economy order - ie the exchange rate system breaks down, Asia is still the best bet for your investment.

Does anyone actually asking direct question to interviewer how to get australia experience if there don't even have a beginning to gain it from elsewhere or opportunities?!?

Nursing?? That's good lo ... in many countries, nursing is considered shortage skilled jobs... I've seen a number of malaysians migrated being in this profession. Where are you now?? In NZ or back in M'sia???

Why didn't I choose nursing ...
Not surprising. Australia is huge!! Greenland is about 2.1million km2, Borneo is about 0.7mil km2, while Australia is 8.6mil km2. You can imagine how big is the land size!!

Even the whole EU with 27 member states is only 4.3mil km2....!!!

In my opinion, 10+years of experience is so normal nowadays(unless like you said, skills desperately needed in Australia). Many offshore IT people(particularly from India and Pakistan) have more than 6 years of experience but yet they still finding it hard to secure a job that closely matched their skill. I know because I am quite active lately in one of the immigration forum and many offshore IT people with lots of experiences ranting around

hence i assumed that the australians are kinda biased towards us asians...not all, but most companies prefer not to hire asians...or am i wrong?

...he's an IT guy, i think he just sacrifice his degree

My 2 cents is that no industry is recession proof.

I lived in Australia 10 years ago...but the Australia yesterday is no longer the Australia today. The whites are not so friendly anymore. There used to be a time when I sit down at a tram stop or a train station, some friendly Aussie would come by and strike a conversation with me about politics, economics, religion and life. No more, no more, I get very angry looks, as if telling me why are you here? to steal our jobs?

Hey, try Redfern in Sydney.
Real interesting neighbourhood

IELTS is the only way that the immigration can use to reduce the PR application. I heard that India, people actually pay bribe to pass the IELTS for immigration. Thus, recently there is a new ruling about IELTS taken from India.

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I even heard some rich Chinese businessmen buy watever shit business here as TR. They throw in money to meet the income target for 2 years then sell off to some other guy who will doing the same thing. Once the meet 2 years TR, they can apply for PR. That's y i saw a restaurant owner change so many round here....some even malaysian!

Oz gov now wanted to restrict immigrants from coming in giving you some bullshit requirement. If you have degree, you're already far more qualified than the local Ozzie here coz i know majority construction or project manager dun even have diploma! But they earn $150k/annum richer than u 3 times.




Got some photo, dunno how to upload it here

I have already foreseen the bolded in Australia like 5-6 years ago when there was a mining boom. I've already told some friends to avoid going to australia if you think the mining sensation will go on. And 5-6 year later, it was spot on.

The rationale is simple. Raw materials are raw materials and they are roughly sold at the same (assuming same grade) whether mined in Indonesia or Australia. For eg. coal mined in Australia would have the same application and same price as coal mined in Indonesia. But the cost of mining in Australia is about 10x higher of that in Indonesia. Its simple mathematics at the end of the day.

For e.g. A mining truck driver earns AUD5000 p.a. in Indonesia (and its a VERY GOOD pay in Indonesia) and the same mining truck driver would cost AUD150k p.a. in Australia. However the value produced by truck driver in Indonesia and Australia are the same. No difference except for less cost in Indonesia (and hence more profit for the company) and additional cost of mining in Australia (and hence less profit to the company).

Asia is the next big thing undoubtedly...with Japanese Abenomics declaring "Im coming back!" ...Asia might take a full swing soon... but im still abit apprehensive bout the bullishness of asia emerging markets bcos of tapering...



...but mining is mining...dont you think it will rebound again in 5-10 years time since its cyclical? I mean its a boom-bust thing....and the mining industry does not depend on China alone.

, but has no long term strategic value e.g. boat people (i.e. derogatory term of asylum seekers),

And australia does not have monopoly of coal in this world. There is brazil, africa which produces the same quality of coal as australia at a fraction of a cost.

in the next couple of years as demand from china slows and competition bites