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annielee
post Aug 27 2011, 01:10 AM

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if you are a fresh grad, will be hard for you to get a job, since u need to compete with Aussie and those graduated in Aus.. even if you are an experienced worker, its gonna be hard also..as they usually will prefer those with local Australia experience, unless ur skills is in demand and it difficult to get an Australian to fill the job..

and of course the first thing u must have is right to work there..as in you must have a visa..without that no one will even look at your CV..even with visa, it will be hard for you to look for job from Malaysia, as they prefer you to be there so they can interview u anytime..

Australia is famous for laid-back lifestyle, and usually u can go home by 5 or 6pm..(depends on industry lar) as they value family time.. thats y shopping centre also closes at 5pm :-)

huge chunk of your money will be for the rent, other than that, everything will be reasonable..as long as you are earning Aussie dollar, it should be okie..

worth it or not, its up to you on how you see it.. and dont expect bed of roses or even 'greener grass' there..

you can visit Whirlpool its something like Lowyat here..


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post Aug 27 2011, 04:18 PM

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aiyo, male also can be nurse mah.. :-)

yup, i worked in Oz before...

as mentioned by others :
1- u must have a valid visa, if u dun have, no need to consider about working there..
2- dun expect life will be better there, as there are some that struggle and came back..

annielee
post Aug 28 2011, 02:41 PM

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definitely no shortcuts for PR application..and now its getting harder to get one..

its hard in Aus, if you dont know anyone there, as you need to worry about job and accommodation..and both does not comes easy as you need to compete with locals there..especially rentals..not easy to get one, even if you are offering to pay in advance for 6 months, some owner wont want to rent to you coz you dont have any reference or record in australia....

in msia, you will be better as ur family is here to provide accommodation, and job wont be that hard to find, as long as you dont have high requirement lar..and also you';; have plenty of friends here..

as mentioned lotsa times, dont look at the currency, i mean im sure u look at in Aus, you will be earning 3x RM, but its not easy to get a job, and taxes is high and as well as rent .. grass is not greener there..and you might need to work a job that is not ur profession, i do have a friend is working a non-related job for almost 2 years already just to survive there..

i came back due to family issue, but i will be moving to Aus again in Jan permanently :-)



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post Aug 28 2011, 10:05 PM

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i've got PR and dont want to waste it, since its so hard to get it now..
and furthermore i've already got some Oz experience and know some friends there already, so might not be that hard for me in terms of job and rent..but it will also takes time for me to get a job since i left for 1+ year ...
if not bcoz of family issues, i wont be back here.. :-)


QUOTE(ivanswk @ Aug 28 2011, 09:49 PM)
i am convince on the currency and tax is high  nod.gif

but but why u still going back to australia and permanent somemore ???  hmm.gif care to share ??
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post Aug 29 2011, 08:21 AM

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i've no idea about the construction line, you've to do your own research..
yes, i agree things is hard in the beginning..but whether will you get a job in your own line or any job, its another story....
if u are willing to take the risk, its up to you..

c, i told you..u r looking at 3xRM..as said, taxes and rent is high there..u might be able to save.. but dun look at working there for a year, meaning earning 3x in MY..

since you dont have a PR, i guess the 1st thing u need to worry is whether you qualify to get one or not, if you didnt even have enough points..u dun even have to think the next step...
if you are below 30, you can apply for WHV to experience the life there..

QUOTE(T3N5AI @ Aug 29 2011, 12:34 AM)
I'm in da construction field rite now. Do u think I stand a chance against da Aussies?

Job, I don't think it's easy, but to be honest, to me, it's da same in Malaysia and Australia. I started with nothing in Malaysia, I think I can start da same way in Australia.

Some say discrimination, but yet, aren't we in da same situation here in Malaysia?

I think for everything, da start is da most bitter part. As time passes, everything will straighten out. 

My point would be da same as others. 1k Aussie saved is 3k RM saved when brought to Malaysia.
Da math is easy. I work 1 yr in Aus equals to 3 yrs in Malaysia. I mean, y not?
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post Aug 30 2011, 10:09 PM

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my advise to you is, if you are firm to work there for a try..
get a PR now if you are qualify..as rules will change in July..
no point getting opinions on the environment there and in the end you cant even work there..
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post Aug 31 2011, 09:07 AM

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normally rules will be amended during the new financial year, which is July..but during last few years, rules did change before July as well..you can always go to DIAC and check out..i heard EOI (Expression of Interest) will be introduce next year, but not sure for which subclass..(since i dun really bother to update myself anymore..)

my advise is, if u qualify now, get all your docs ready and submit, no point waiting and getting so many opinions..since u r firm going there and try your luck no matter how we tell u the grass is not greener there if your main point of working there is due to currency..

probably u can ask again when u got ur PR in another year or so whether its worth it to go there or not..since circumstances will change every now and then..be it yourself or Aus environment..i dont mean to be blunt, but nothing to advise you since u dun even have the right to work there now and environment will definitely change when u got ur PR...for eg, i've few friends still waiting for the PR after 2 years.. so now they told me if they managed to get it, they might not even wanna go there, coz now they have a family already and their job is stable and salary has been revised to good $$..

and plz read more facts to get more information on the Aus migration..where im sure you can google to find....most forums (dont ask me where, i didnt save the bookmark) that i visited, if u ask a simple question, u will be bombarded in every direction, so read your facts and ask smartly..

what i can share with you is, i get information online for about 1+ years about the process and started to know almost everything i needed on the visa class that im applying, and only started asking questions after that about what im unsure.... coz i DIY and didnt engage an agent for my process..dun expect being spoonfeed by forumners... coz everyone have a different case..

QUOTE(T3N5AI @ Aug 31 2011, 12:00 AM)
Do u mean to say that the rules will change again in July 2012?
I thought da point system has just revised in July 2011?

Yea, it's getting harder to obtain the PR status. In da past election, it was their to priority for both parties to reduce the immigrant numbers. It's just too bad that I did not qualify for it back when the process was still more lenient.
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post Aug 31 2011, 11:14 AM

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PR visa cost is A$2960 as at now..i still remembered when i applied, its only A$2k..:-)
in MY will be more than that i guess..

During my time..
Visa -> A$2k (its A$2960 now)
IELTS -> RM510
Medicals -> RM150
PCC -> RM20
Skills assessment -> A$300

Now, you need to check for the updated fees...and also factor in agent fees is you are engaging one..


QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 31 2011, 11:00 AM)
And even though you can qualify for PR, you need to calculate the cost for the application too. PR application will cost you around $2.2k. Also you need to take IELTS(around $350), medical(around $250), police check(around $50), skill assessment(depends which occupation you're on. mostly above $300) and some minor cost. Total up will cost you around $AUD 3k or RM9500.

Is like investment. Invest some money to get either better life(better job and money) or bad life(jobless,etc).

Fortunately I applying TR with my gf(de facto) and the cost is split to the half.
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post Aug 31 2011, 06:45 PM

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ya, IT got a lot of demand, as long as u r experienced and know ur stuff well, then will not be hard if u r not choosy.....

QUOTE(static @ Aug 31 2011, 06:22 PM)
Just saw this thread, and I just moved here 4 months ago, and lucky me found a job in just 2 weeks (was offered on the spot). Came with no job, no money, only got honey. Initially I was warned that it will be tough for me to find a job since every tom, d*** and harry has a degree and mine is from a local Uni. They did not even look at my qualifications (as in uni degree lah, but i graduated more than 2 years ago.. so.. no need see anymore lah).

I'm in the IT industry and most of the job opportunities are in Syd (while I'm based in Melbourne). But I would say that, never try never know! Or perhaps I am just a lucky b**** (yes, i'm a female)... Life's good, co-workers great, job is awesome and everything is nicely in place for now.


Added on August 31, 2011, 6:26 pmBy the way, they revise the immigration fees/rules every year in July.
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post Sep 1 2011, 10:00 PM

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you dont have to 'waste' >10k from the beginning..
the first 2 task u need to get is your skills assessment and IELTS test done..(and these can take few months)
after these 2 are approved, then only u file for the PR application, u also have the option to file later if you dont have enough money as the results is valid for 2 years if im not wrong..

but i will file asap when i got approved for skills and IELTS, to avoid any changes to rules...

QUOTE(T3N5AI @ Sep 1 2011, 10:22 AM)
Of course da application fees is an issue. Or else I wouldn't have given it a second thought. 10k is not easy to save working in Malaysia. Plus ur starting expenses upon reaching Australia. If ur application fails, ur 10k is as good as nothing. = (
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post Sep 1 2011, 11:04 PM

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true, IELTS are available all year round, but i remembered during my time only Sat available for the test (writing, listening, reading) and speaking on a different day..i didnt managed to book on the same day for all paper coz i booked it quite late..and all the slots taken up already..and you need to book in advance..i booked mine 2 months in advance..and you need to take the General one and not the Academic..

im not sure about now, it might change already.. google and find out more..

im not an expert in these, and my info already outdated..since i got my PR 3 years ago..which is why i advise you to read more.. since u mention this is an expensive journey..and better do some homework yourself and not depends on others.. and google will be your best friend here..thats what i used..

and actually, what i advise to my friends is 1st go to those migration agency (better if u can goto 2 different agency) usually they will provide free assessment and evaluate your eligibility..if their advise is go ahead, then u can confirm u got enough points and of course u dont have to use them..
listen to what they say and ask as many question as possible and decide from there..

QUOTE(T3N5AI @ Sep 1 2011, 10:43 PM)
I shall heed ur advice and go ahead on these 2 tasks. Ielts is a must and the tests are held all year round, unless there is a special paper for PR applicants.

Skills assessment test on da other hand, I dun think I have any info on this but I shall check it out.

Thanks for da advice. Do u mind if I pm u if I have any queries?
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post Sep 2 2011, 11:32 AM

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rules change already.. you need to go to Aus Immigration for the new points system..

QUOTE(Argiope @ Sep 2 2011, 04:05 AM)
It's good that there is a guideline to follow for PR application unlike Singapore where they approve at their discretion. Anyway, i remember there was a portion that indicate how many points you get based on your occupation when i did my readings few years back. It's no longer applicable? From what i see now, so long you fall under Skilled Occupation List, you get the points.
wah..what do you mean by come clean ? u plan to lie on your application ? as long as you meet the requirement you should get ur PR..unless rules changes.. rejection reasons..i've read before the employment verification fail or even the medicals fail..

QUOTE(Argiope @ Sep 2 2011, 04:05 AM)
If i meet the criteria of the Points Test and come clean, what are the chances for them to reject my PR application? I mean, of course you wouldn't know but have you guys heard of such cases? Usually what are the rejection reasons?
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post Sep 2 2011, 12:55 PM

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yes..Aus PR is straightforward, as long as you meet the requirements, your PR should be approve ..
unless they announced to cut the no of immigrants or even change the rules ..

QUOTE(Argiope @ Sep 2 2011, 12:50 PM)
Nolah of course not. I mean assuming i pass my Points Test, medical test, Accessing Authority and come clean by no criminal records etc. i should be getting my PR right?

In Aussie, you meet the points you get it. In Singapore, this PR thing is very grey and you have no idea whether you meet their internal criteria or not so just apply only. If it gets approved then you are lucky lol.
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post Sep 3 2011, 02:23 PM

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i tot there's flood levy introduced already..
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post Sep 9 2011, 11:47 AM

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you are wrong...you cant even work if you dont have a PR..
unless you are on sponsored working visa..

QUOTE(TSOM @ Sep 9 2011, 11:40 AM)
I'm a bit confused. How come we're talking about PR already? Don't you have to work/live in Australia for a few years before you can file for a PR status?
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Added on September 9, 2011, 11:49 amwhy you need to go back at 8plus ?
i used to work in MNC in Oz as well.. we went back the same time :-)

QUOTE(whojen @ Sep 9 2011, 12:37 AM)
WORKED IN MNC in AUS 2 years..

Hate it and Love it

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Australias takes train and trams back to home / happy hours at 4.45

Asians take train and trams back to home / sleep at 8.45-9.30.

HIGH Tax!!!!
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Weather , Cheap Cars,  SALARY  , UNIONS smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2011, 01:21 AM

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Australia is different, need PR/visa in order to work..
So i guess your friend already has a PR or relevant visa for him to search job in Australia..
Without that, he cant even look for a job there..

QUOTE(TSOM @ Sep 10 2011, 01:02 AM)
Sorry, you confuse me even more ...

So, does it mean that when he moves to Australia for job search, he already needs to apply for PR?
Normally PR for other countries can only be obtained after a few years of residence in that country. That's why I'm confused .. because he's still in Malaysia.
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post Sep 11 2011, 12:38 PM

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depends on your points.. do read up in DIAC website..
click on the Finding Visa to see whether you qualify or not..
im no migration agent, so cant advise you on whether you qualify or not.. if you want to know further, do meet up with those agency for initial free assessment...

QUOTE(TSOM @ Sep 11 2011, 09:34 AM)
Ok .. so people like me who are still in Malaysia, and wants to work in Australia, what should I apply? Am I qualify to get a PR?
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Added on September 11, 2011, 1:33 pmsince im coming end of december, i guess i cant contact the recruiter before hand..will start looking for job only in Feb...
will travel around australia for a while first since i didnt have the chance to do that when i was there..

wats the mileage of the holden vectra that you bought ?

QUOTE(static @ Sep 11 2011, 12:28 PM)
Yup, living with bf. I started applying for jobs before I even apply for my visa and got a few positive responses (as they don't have to sponsor me), i will be getting my own anyway. So when I arrive, I recontacted them (and applied for a few more) and things just fall into place. Lucky I guess, got job and working on the 4th week.

We paid 3k for the Holden Vectra and another 2k or less for maintenance (change front tyre, tuning, etc) and roadworthy. Got it off a friend  rclxms.gif
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post Sep 11 2011, 02:44 PM

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im not in accounting, cant advise...
you can visit Whirlpool Graduate forum for more information..this is an Oz based forum..
enjoy your reading there..

QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Sep 11 2011, 02:39 PM)
what's the job prospect for accounting graduate from Uni of Sydney like?
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post Sep 11 2011, 03:25 PM

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so, which suburb you/bf stay now ?
will def look for you when im there..

QUOTE(static @ Sep 11 2011, 03:23 PM)
Alamak, not too sure, bf handles the car issue. I just sit next to him and become my driver  tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2011, 06:48 PM

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what i meant is to find work, must have relevant working rights (be it under PR, spouse visa, or bridging visa....)

QUOTE(static @ Sep 14 2011, 05:10 PM)
annielee, you can work if you're on spouse visa, defacto, prospective marriage visa, etc. Not necessarily need PR to work smile.gif

Not sure about fresh aus graduates...
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