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darkhorse_86
post Feb 22 2012, 06:22 PM

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Dear all,
After much anticipation and waiting, i have finally got my PR valid for 5 years to reside in australia. I would like to ask for the people who are there at the moment, which areas have job vacancies/ opportunities at the moment? I am from a finance/banking background, having a degree in accounting/finance and have banking experience. Thanks.
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post Feb 22 2012, 06:53 PM

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I found this youtube channel useful- lots of useful general information
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post Feb 25 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Feb 25 2012, 01:35 PM)
Got an insider news that ANZ could lay off as many as 3000 people in Aus alone.....
in batches of course!


Added on February 25, 2012, 1:39 pm
dude, no offense, but you chose the worst time to be working in Aus especially for banking....
almost all banks in Aus are laying-off people in the hundreds, and while i won't say your chances are excatly zero, but it comes close....
Personal suggestion is to let this bad storm clear-up before venturing in....
You don't want to be jobless in Aus and spending all your reserve money with no jobs in sight....
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Thanks for the advice. Will consider this.

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post Jul 26 2012, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Jul 25 2012, 11:02 AM)
TFN, you can do it online..(ato.gov.au)
Bank account, you can do it from MY, then transfer ur money over b4 u arrive..
Medicare ?? not sure u will be entitle to it since you are not a PR. (i might be wrong)

But my advise is to do everything when you are in Australia, since you wont be working immediately once you landed...
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Whats the advantage of setting up bank account in MY first and transfer money over first vs doing it over there since you will have to visit the bank anyway to provide your valid identification details.

will the banks need any other forms of documentation other than our passports, such as proof of residents and/or sponsors?

BTW, found a good guide for first-timers in Aussie. Sorry if repost. Link

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post Aug 23 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM)
sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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State sponsorship : It makes up for the points, but one thing that you must bear in mind, is that you would have to work in that state. It's not that flexible compared to the normal PR.
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post Aug 23 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 03:02 PM)
State sponsorship and the new Skill Select are pretty similar now. Both require you to get a state who is in need of your occupation. So you don't really have a choice of where you want to work anymore.
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If not mistaken still can apply through Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa , but still go through skillselect right?
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 12:42 PM)
I just took my General IELTS and I have got 8.5. But then again, English is my first language. Another friend of mine is Chinese educated and his English is decent, he got a 8.5 too (which is a little surprising). Yet another friend whose first language is English too scored an 8.

Honestly, I don't think it's too difficult. I did mine in Australia though. Average Malaysian's English I would say is around 7.5-8. Just cut down on the "lahs" and "mahs" etc during speaking exams.
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Let me dig out the ielts reply i did in the ielts thread a while ago... there. this should help...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Anyways just practise on a lot of questions, especially for the reading and writing part.

Anyways, FYI for those who are travelling to aus and arriving on or after 1 sept 2012, please note the travel concessions for cigarettes has been reduced from 250 cigs /grams to 50 cigs/grams
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post Oct 8 2012, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Oct 4 2012, 04:40 PM)
another advise, nov - jan is sorta quiet period..
so come in feb... :-)
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Not really a good idea cause you have to compete with graduates from uni right?
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post Nov 7 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Nov 7 2012, 07:29 AM)
Just one comment on girl-next-door's post. About your residential status, you MUST include that in your resume. Her situation might be different because she applied as a graduate (Am I right?).
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This is a 50-50 situation.
If you put it in, local employers will know that you're a migrant and compared to a local aussie, guess who's resume they'll look at first.
It doesn't matter anyway. Most job application forms require you to state your eligibility to work in australia (whether pr/citizen). and during interview, they require you to produce your id documents.

Some comments on the girl's next door post:

1. It does not make you un-Malaysian if you can speak with a genuine Aussie accent. Trust me, you are much better than some people in Msia that speak fake aussie/brit accent and think they are really great. I lived in the uk for a while and have managed to develop a good Brit Accent. Doesn't make me Un-Malaysian. It shows that you can adapt quickly in a foreign environment.

2. Language is a useful ability for us Malaysians. Most aussies (read most, not all) have only one language. Malaysians can speak and write to up to 4. This is a plus point that employers may be looking for.

3.When you arrive in a foreign land, you must always remember that you start from square one. Therefore you gotta work your way up. Treat it as a new game in a game called life.

4.Taking courses is a good idea. Vocational ones especially if it's relevant to your field. However I don't think furthering education studies eg masters is a good idea if you don't back it up with sufficient working experience.

5. Also I'd like to add as the girl next door didn't really cover it that much. Networking is very important in securing a job in Aus. Approx 70% of jobs are not advertised and considered to be in the hidden job market. Who you know is quite important as well. Therefore it's crucial that one knows how to market oneself and establish good social connections. This can be done in several ways.

i. Linkedin
ii. Forums
iii. Volunteer Work
iv. Meeting people through social groups such as through meetup.com
v. Interests & Hobbies as well as Church Groups/ Buddhist Groups etc...


Also, it's good that if you can join in programme that helps skilled migrants to get a job. In Melbourne, Victoria there's a programme called AMES Skilled Professional Migrant Programme where PR's can join and get professional advice on how to write a cover letter/resume, present themselves at interviews and even enroll into a mentor programme. PR's also get a discount . More details Here Note: I'm not advertising for this programme, I've been through it and found it useful.

Hope this post may be useful to someone.
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post Nov 8 2012, 01:43 PM

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Employment Consultants like Grad Solutions can assist you to find a job for a fee, but I don't think that they can guarantee a job for you. Another one in Melbourne, is KEAT International.

AMES conducts the program similar to a vocational courses. Attend classes, interact with other jobseekers, complete assignments given by tutors, practise for presentations and prepare for interview sessions. They don't guarantee you a job but at least they help you increase your confidence levels. However concession pricing is only given to PR's and Healthcare Card holders.


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post Nov 29 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(maldini @ Nov 29 2012, 12:31 PM)
Secure job first before moving.
Easier said than done. Unless you are sponsored by an employer.
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post Dec 19 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(jess08 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:54 PM)
Hey Melbournian, just thought of surveying around good place (or safe place) to live in Melbourne. Please share your experience? I am planning to move out soon from my current place.

I have just started working here like 4 mths back, somehow I enjoy my new life here. The whole city is still new to me, so full of surprise everyday. smile.gif I have also met a few malaysians here who have been working here for the past 10 years (including 4 years studying). Most of them intend to go back to Malaysia in the near future. It is kind of a big surprise to me. Nevertheless, grass is always greener on the other side.
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It actually depends on where you want to live and what you want to do as each suburb is practically different. But generally the eastern suburbs are relatively safe.
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post Jan 4 2013, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 3 2013, 12:01 PM)
went to sydney for holiday and honestly, not much different compare to KL. busy city with rude people everywhere, bad traffic, not that clean and public transport not that great compare to melbourne.
Just a heads up to anyone wishing to travel to melbourne, now you can only use a Myki card when travelling using public transportation in Melbourne city. That means visitors and tourists need to buy a $6 myki card + credit/pass in order to travel. In Malaysian terms, it is equivalent to only be able to use touch n go smartcard when using public transportation.

QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Jan 3 2013, 02:30 PM)
Ic..But I read somewhere that interest is taxable right?
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The banks can charge a withholding tax on your interest income if you fail to provide a tax file number. Link
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post Jan 8 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 8 2013, 08:44 AM)
agree. not to mention, your name as well(Asian such as chinese name will have a bit of disadvantages). Many people suggest to create an English name. Is best if you can include residency status in resume if you are holding Pr so that they won't filter you out.
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Including it into your resume can be regarded as a double edged sword. Yes, its good to include it in so that you will not be filtered out, but think about it this way. If there are 4 other aussie resumes without the pr status and yours with the pr status, guess which resumes the hr personnel will look at first.

Best indication suggested to me is to look at the job ad if they said that applicants must hold valid visa etc then include it and address it on the cover letter.

QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 8 2013, 09:07 AM)
Yeah, you're right. I watched SBS channel on youtube on the topic of immigrants searching for jobs. There's this african lady who was born in Oz. She has the african name given by parents. When she graduated in food medicine, she applied for job. None of the employers would appoint her. So she changed her front name by adding english name. Soon after she was appointed in less than 2 weeks.
I think the moment they saw your resume with asian or whatever name that was unfamiliar will be in the rubbish bin. I know this sounds racial but it's really happen.
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Besides that, they're also looking for good english. Try to minimize grammatical errors on cv and cover letter
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post Jan 8 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 8 2013, 06:46 PM)
I'm not saying that racism/name filtering won't happen, I'm saying that putting a different name won't help you in these cases. As you mentioned you'll be filtered out if the company doesn't want you anyway. I don't want to work for a company if they're already being racist enough to reject me based on my name.

There are other ways to differentiate yourself. Putting a local Aussie number will help, it makes it easier for recruiters to call you. I've actually received calls even if to tell me I've been rejected eg. most recently from Macquarie Telecom.

Correct grammar, good communications and targeted resume + cover letters will help too. How many people actually do these things?
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Having a nice ''name'' gets you somewhere. After that, you've gotta prove yourself at the interview stage. However, if the cover letter and resume is written using bad grammar and incorrect punctuation, then I guess the name wouldn't help much.
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post Feb 14 2013, 05:04 AM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Feb 13 2013, 08:42 AM)
One thing I want to bring up is the frustrations of applying jobs in Australia. You see, unlike here in Malaysia in which we got two main mediums - jobstreet and the Star, in Australia all job applications have to go through Job Recruitment firms.


Not true. There are companies that insist to not use recruiters to find suitable staff. These are the companies that you should target. I would get a list of companies that are within your scope and target those companies instead by visiting their website and locating the careers section. Normally employers in Australia are more understanding to international applicants who apply direct. By doing this, you are also cutting off the recruiter middle man, who mostly do not favor international applicants. I mean, just put yourself in he recruiter's shoes, would you go with somebody that has nil local work experience, may not speak good english and may not be suit the cultural fit of the organisation compared to someone that fulfills all the criteria?

QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Feb 13 2013, 08:42 AM)
So in other words, you don't get rewarded by your good results and your previous work experience because you don't know who you're applying to.
This is one of the major disadvantages of applying via recruitment agencies. The company needs staff. The recruiter needs the commission. That's the reason why the applicants are at a disadvantage. It's just better applying direct and cutting the middle man recruiter.
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post Feb 14 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:16 AM)
Visiting their website?

Gosh its a lot of work, isn't it?

I see the convenience of jobstreet.com, I just open it, and wallah...30 jobs advertised a day.

Then in Australia, I have to think of whom is the top employers...like err, Fortesque Metals, BHP, Rio Tinto, Woolworths, Commonwealth Bank, etc (By the way I am not familiar with local Australian brand names). I have to look at one by one of the co websites? Quite taxing.
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Doing this is only one of the many ways to get a job. Networking is extremely important as well since most of the jobs are in the hidden job market and are not advertised. Best way is joining clubs and societies and volunteering.

There is no easy thing in life. Actually I think one would of have better chances if a direct application was made. However they can be tedious as some required you to address certain questions, key selection criteria and undergo a personality tests.

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One another note, it looks like its harder and harder to get a visa. The Australian Government is tightening the rules on the 457 temporary work visa, given the fact that they found some employers abusing it.

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post Feb 28 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Feb 27 2013, 09:25 AM)
Guys! I think we're way out of topic here. Please return to the issue that we're discussing now.
Talk about the success of getting a job in Oz, anyone have any suggestion what is the best way to get into your own job profession instead of casual work which is totally unrelated?
Coz we dun want to get replied with inappropriate working experience or so.
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1. Networking with the right groups
2. Have an active linkedin profile and connect with recruiters. Recruiters can easily approach you that way .
3. Do research on your job profile. Which areas in Aus have job shortages in your chosen field for the past few years? That's where you should target.
4. Upskill if necessary. For example you might need to take additional modules in Aus Tax and Law even if you're qualified as an accountant.
5. Search for companies in your area of interest. Create or obtain a list of companies that you want to work for. Target these companies and browse their careers pages for any suitable vacancies.
6. Volunteer. You might meet people that can help you.

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QUOTE(lostintransition @ Mar 12 2013, 05:49 PM)
Hi
Thanks for your reply. I don't have any working experience in Australia ~ this prove to be the show stopper. The 75 points is mainly due to smashing the IELTS test and getting a band 8.0 for every single component in IELTS.

Can i ask? How long does it take to access the funds at Centrelink? My migration lawyer told me that if i can prove that i actively look for a job during the past 6 months, then Centrelink will commence to disburse funds for my living expenses. So, is it 6 months or 2 years? Also, what sort of financial assistance are made available to newly arrived migrants?
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Yep as annielee pointed out you are subjected to a waiting period of 2 years in order to access centrelink benefits ie newstart allowance. Even if you could access that, you will need to fulfill some tests ie assets test in order for you to receive the allowance.

If your first language is english (ie you speak english at home), obtaining an 8 in all bands is not unachievable. However, don't be overconfident either. Just practise on sample ielts questions before the exam, especially writing. Also becareful not too screw up the speaking test (it's the easiest to fumble amongst the four by saying all the 'las' 'mas' and 'niamind') You should be lucky if you're taking the ielts in Malaysia. This is because I heard that taking it in countries eg Australia and UK is much harder (probably stricter judging and marking on the writing and speaking tasks) compared to in Malaysia.

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