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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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abubin
post Dec 13 2011, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(strawberyeve @ Dec 12 2011, 09:25 PM)
Its true. DONT COME! I am currently staying in Australia since my family migrated here. But still its pretty hard for an asian to get a job here. Even u r alot smarter than them they still will prefer their own people anyway. That's y i plan to go back malaysia to work nxt yr. Just an opinion.
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Which part of Australia are you residing? I know it's pretty bad in Sydney but in Perth and Melbourne, quite a lot of Asians there. Shouldn't be that hard?
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(ceejay @ Dec 16 2011, 09:01 AM)
Oz is still relatively a small economy of 25m people if u take out the mining boom and property (fueled by foreigners). Personal income tax is close to 50% top scale and on global basis. So your income in MY is taxable even if u do not send to Au. Mining very dependent on China so u can wait and see how what happened next year. I am told that getting a job for a new grad(with PR) range from 6 mth for accounting grad to more  than 1 year for engineers.
Unless u hv a confirmed job, u are better off going to Singapore.

A lot of grad doing other job eg McD, Big W while applying for job ( enuf to pay for food but papa and mama using retirement mony  to pay for rent.)

And migrating to Au for your child's education . . . . think again.
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I just met with a relative who migrated to Melbourne 20 years ago. The old couple struggled quite a bit there and had to work in factories and hotels. Their kids have grown up now and are quite okay. They were quite a successful business persons when they were in Malaysia and sold off all their business to migrate there. However, they are retired now and each of the couple are getting aus1k monthly from government or some retirement scheme. Their advice to me is still, go to Aus, it's good for kids education.

I totally agree with them:
1) struggling in Aus, your works will eventually be paid off unlike struggling here in MY, you will go nowhere
2) for non-bumis, we are treated like secondary residence. We migrate to aus or canada, we are still secondary but with better treatment from government there.
3) lifestyle is relaxing and less stress
4) social mentality is much higher with education, environment for kids to grow into better person. Not the type of "double parking" mentality here...if you know what I mean.
5) you don't need to earn a lot as things are cheaper there due to currency rate. Having 500aud balance after deducting all the neccessity from your salary, you still can get lots of things. Clothings, gadgets, phone, computers and so on. Or save up to buy a new car...Ford Fiesta Sports selling only AUD17k there. What car you can you for 17k in MY or even 52.7k (after conversion) besides lousy Proton?
6) Government there have less corruption and more pro to helping it's "people" to build a better nation. Here? Talk crap and build a better...government.
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post Dec 19 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Dec 19 2011, 01:16 PM)
1) Like? It really depends on individual, if you can succeed in Australia, you can be successful in Malaysia too. I do not agree with this.
2) What do you expect the government to treat you? They tax you more in Australia hence more benefits. Everything still comes from the tax payer money anyway.
3) It really depends. Most of the cases, yes, but there are many roles that require 24/7 standby and workload that needs to overflow to weekend. Both Malaysia and Australia have roles that only need you to be present and do very little stuff and relax. Point is, if you are in a role that is really stressful in Malaysia and you move to Australia to look for a job that is almost identical, it might be easier, but you shouldn't expect big changes.
4) Higher is a wrong word. The education and environment are not ideal as most of you would think. Think of US and UK, and you shouldn't expect Australia to be much better then those two countries. Which is why I said in my previous post, private education is a necessity for most parents nowadays. And mind you, even for primary education, it starts at 17k per annum ++ of fees.
5) Getting a place to stay will cost you the most here. If you don't have one, you will still struggle. My opinion is, you should never ever migrate to Australia because of money. If you are planning for the same lifestyle you had back in Malaysia and you didn't save in Malaysia, you wouldn't save here in Autsralia too.
6) You got a really wrong perception on this. This is not just an Australian problem, but a democracy problem. Having short term government that changes every other term are the culprit of THINGS NEVER GET DONE. A short and simple example in Sydney. Talks had been going since 20 years ago about having a second airport, about having train services to north west region, building/expanding freeways in hills district and western suburbs. Millions have been spent on consultation to make up plans to have it scrapped when a new government comes into power. In the end, its the people that struggles with wasted tax money, traffic congestion and long traveling time. Just have a look at the wiki below on one of the example mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_West_railway_line,_Sydney
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1) I am not talking about high flying job when I mention struggling. I am talking about the simple kind of job where you work at a clerk in supermarket and you still get to live decently in Aus. Can a cashier live as decently in MY?
2) You pay higher tax in Aus but at least you know where the money goes. Do you know where all your tax money end up in MY?
3) I am talking about generally. Don't lah go compare work that require 24/7 standby.
4) Do you know what is the status of MY's education system? The government are using education as in the political games. Do you have any idea how bad it is?
5) Yup staying is expensive in Aus only if you compare it with other country. If you work there and live there. It shouldn't be big problem. And of course I don't ever mean someone who migrate with nothing. That's suicide whichever country you are going.
6) I know every country have their own problems. Politics, social and so on. But if you weight the problems they are facing in Aus or Sg or Can with MY, I think you know which is the worst.

I am getting advise from someone who migrated there and struggled there (in Aus) for 20 years and still thinks it is a worth it. They are the perfect example for my reference. Who is your reference for your point of argument? The internet?

This post has been edited by abubin: Dec 19 2011, 02:30 PM
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post Dec 19 2011, 03:33 PM

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i don't know about some of your but migrating for money's sake is the last thing I am going to do. It is really not smart to migrate for money.

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