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jskf01
post Oct 17 2011, 11:29 AM

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I wonder if there is some sort of forum or web board for malaysians living in Australia specifically? something similair to the Natui website (google) for thais residing in oz.
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post Oct 18 2011, 05:16 AM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Oct 17 2011, 01:57 PM)
actually there is a forum for Malaysian in Australia....

GMN

but now many of us 'chatting' over in FB already..
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wah that site looks old lol is there any other alternative? ben searching for afew days now and cant find anything. its abit hard when you dont know what terms to put into google for this sorta thing!!!:P
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post Oct 18 2011, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Oct 18 2011, 12:31 PM)
that forum is very useful..most of the information are there..based on real experiences of Msians going/residing in Australia now..
but we recently migrated to FB group and share information there instead..

what you need to know ??
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i see so what is the fb group name? i might join up. are you in the group yourself?

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post Oct 20 2011, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(White Knight @ Oct 19 2011, 04:57 PM)
Please have a heart for those who "jump aeroplane". They "jumped aeroplane" due to circumstances not because they like to jump aeroplane. If they're well off like you, do you think they will jump aeroplane? I am an Aust citizen now & I have seen a lot of my former countrymen (malaysian) who're overstaying & work illegally in Asian restaurants. I can tell you they're being treated like dogs by their employers (mostly also Asians who also happens to be migrants from Singapore & Hong Kong). That's one of the reasons why I don't like Singaporean (The Big Kiasus) & Hong Kees - Asians bully back the Asians. I am a Chinese too. Whereas I find that those Whites are more compassionate, considerate & kind hearted.

Couple of months back I was in an Asian restaurant, in a sudden an enforcement truck came & took away almost 12 illegal Malaysians. My heart immediately sank & I deeply felt for them when I witnessed the whole incident. I heard rumours that it was the restaurant's competitor who reported to the authority.
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Are there alot of Msians working illegally in Aust? Thought most of them were doing it in UK and not so much in Aust. Most of the illegals that I see here are mostly from Thailand and China/HK.
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post Oct 20 2011, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(White Knight @ Oct 20 2011, 01:38 PM)
Yes, most prefer UK bcoz of higher exchange rate. However in UK, the authorities are keeping a very closed watchful eyes on Malaysians because Malaysians have a tremendously bad record on jumping aeroplane. The same also applies to those from China.
That's why some Malaysians but not all come to Aust. Basically they will stationed themselves at predominantly Asian suburds.
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Yeah I know we are notorious for overstaying in the UK really sad to see honestly. They are not as strict here in regards to overstayers but if you get caught thats it bai bai liao. I do wonder though how many Malaysians are residing in Aust and UK and USA. Would be good to have a breakdown of the diaspora.
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post Jan 13 2012, 05:00 AM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 13 2012, 01:59 AM)
How is Aus a better place compared to SG?

1) SG welcomes foreigners especially Chinese Malaysian - Aus, not really a welcome foreigner kind of place with its tight immigration law.
2) Easy to get PR/Citizen - None of that point based sh1t or "tightening of immigration laws" happening every year in Aus.
3) No discrimination. Actually most com in SG prefer to employ Malaysian since MOST can speak good English, Mandarin and Malay (3 main language of SG). - Aus prefer caucasion Australian or UK/American/European not so much Asian, unless you work in an Asian firm. Def mentioned there are lots of Asian holding high ranking position, but how many in terms of % compared to caucasion? Ans: very few if compared to Caucasion.
4) Low tax. - Aus Super high tax....as high at 30-40% of total package.
5) Safety. - Aus not as safe as SG
6) Career prospects. -Many Regional HQ are in SG - Aus, Not many only Aus based company has HQ in Australia.

So the question is why go to a place that don't welcome you in the first place? (especially if you are thinking of "finding" a job there and not a PR yet)
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[COLOR=blue]SG and Oz are 2 very different countries. Yes laws are being tightened especially over the last 2 years. This was done to try and ensure that only ppl who are needed come into the country based on their skillset, age etc etc.They can do this tightening due to the sheer number of ppl who want to go over. If nobody wanted to migrate over, why bother to tighten the laws? In SG I assume that they still need alot of workers plus I guess MSia and SG's relationship is probably similair to Oz's relationship with NZ where both citizens can travel freely without much paperwork.

I agree with pretty much all your points above. They are true to a certain extent. Yet we still have a ton of msians and singaporeans working here me being one of them. What most of them say is yes its true we get taxed alot more, yes we may have some SLIGHT discrimination, yes MAYBE our prospoects won't be good as SG...but what about the work culture and work/life balance compared to Oz? If you work in SG/Msia, how many hours a day do you work? Do you work 8-9 hours a day and go home without bringing work home? Can you leave work early if you have something to do like a dental appointment? Do you have to wait for your boss to leave before you can leave? Do you have to come in to work on weekends or meet up with your boss to review a paper at 8pm at night?

Sure in SG you may get more money, earn less tax but how much are you actually earning PER HOUR of work? So if you consider all this and you still think SG is better then by all means stay on.smile.gif Just my 0.02 since not everyone has the same work conditions be they in Oz or Msia or SG
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post Jan 14 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(klboy @ Jan 14 2012, 04:46 PM)
You are right working in Australia is a very good experience and boost to your resume.

One thing i wanna to add is the tax in Malaysia also very high too 27% which i believe is higher than Australia. Better work in other country haha..
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27% is the highest bracket in Msia. The highest bracket here is about 47%
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post Feb 8 2012, 05:00 AM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Feb 8 2012, 02:24 AM)
You can still go window shopping in wollies or coles?
I think they open until midnight like 10-12. The one at sydney pitt street does. or chinatown...those restaurant close late...
I use to hang around there and people watch...
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i think he is in brissy
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post Feb 22 2012, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Feb 22 2012, 09:22 PM)
Dear all,
After much anticipation and waiting, i have finally got my PR valid for 5 years to reside in australia. I would like to ask for the people who are there at the moment, which areas have job vacancies/ opportunities at the moment? I am from a finance/banking background, having a degree in accounting/finance and have banking experience. Thanks.
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Congrats am glad to hear that! I suggest you come over immediately if you are not already here. As someone else already said, start looking on SEEK and see what is available. Your field is very competitive therefore resume and cover letter must be very good. I would suggest start applying in Sydney and Melb first. Do you know where you will be residing yet. If you have no pref then just apply all states and see what happens.
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post Mar 10 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Mar 10 2012, 04:00 PM)
Because I have 3 cousin and 5 family freinds all PRs, in various parts in Aus and jobless at the moment.
2 of my cousins have been job searching for the past 2 years and are in-between contract jobs which last no more than 6 months.
But they have deep pockets so no problem.
If you don't, goo luck to you!
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Care to elaborate as to why it was so hard for them to secure a job? I find it hard to believe that 8 ppl you know are in oz and jobless. I assume when you say jobless as in cannot secure a job relevant to their qualifications? I do admit it is not easy though especially nowadays. I finished uni in 2008 and secured a job within 2 months while waiting for my PR so I was one of the fortunate ones i guess
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(powercolor @ Mar 12 2012, 04:17 PM)
the best way to get a job in Aussie after u finish ur study here in aussie, just go for an internship first, doesnt matter if ure dip/deg/master (me) becoz honestly kinda hard to apply normally or through website like careerone / jobseek  ... apply for any company cuz the agent might give a good company as well depends on wat ur study rclxms.gif  ...

but from intern , if u do a good job, they might take u permanently, like i have, cuz sriosly aussie people kinda lazy  mad.gif , eventhough i am super lazy ass, i still got employee of the month for 3 straight month  rclxm9.gif , but now after a year, im bored + my visa's still under process for GSM, kinda gonna take a long time anyway, its time to go to back to msia for good  rclxm9.gif
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Ah ok how come so itchy to go back? It has only been a year.
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post Apr 15 2012, 09:12 PM

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While the list may show you what jobs are in demand, it does not tell you what experience level is in demand. There may be a high demand for chem engineers for example but the demand may be for experienced ppl only not new grads. That is the part you need to find out for yourself to gauge where you fit in terms of your experience or lack thereof. As for your kiddos, get them to do uni in Oz and by the time they graduate, if they qualify for PR go ahead and apply. If they do not qualify, come back work in Malaysia first and apply again few years later when the conditions are right. Thats what my cousin did and is now settling fine here.
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(plplpl @ Apr 16 2012, 11:35 AM)
Yes, it is not easy to get a permanent job here even if you are a PR. This is what really worries me in the long term. What if I lose my job? It might be really difficult to get a new one.

To be honest, I still prefer Singapore than Australia. I have never really felt at home here even though almost 4 years in Australia. If I were to stay in Australia long term, it would be just for the money and kids education.
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What is your situation like? What is it in your job that makes you think you may lose it? Do you find difficulty integrating? What kind of work do you do in what industry? Would be helpful to everyone here I think:)
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(plplpl @ Apr 16 2012, 12:08 PM)
I am in O&G industry now. So far my job is safe but I dont really like the new management. I just found a new job but it is pure luck because coincidentally I have the exact skills that they require.

I had tried searching for new job in the past and found it hard to even land an interview. Probably it is because I am not a PR. Same goes for my wife here. She sent many resumes but not even one single interview. Now only working as process worker in factory.

Sometimes I wonder the reasons it is so difficult to find a job in Aussie. Initially I assumed it was because of the PR status or because I live in small city like Adelaide so not much jobs available. However I talked to one of my colleague who lives in Melbourne, his wife's parents are Sri Lankan but she was born in New Zealand. She had a Law degree from NZ and also is a PR in Aussie. According to my colleague, his wife sent hundreds of resume but cant even get one interview. She ended up working as a retail assistant. Therefore, the only reason I can think of is because we are Asians.
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I think 2-4 example of Asians not getting a job hardly qualifies as racism. You have got a job at the moment and a good one I assume so that is very good. You said you are both not PR yet you have a job so I think that is pretty good as its not easy to land a job here as PR is critical. And being in Adelaide you are even luckier as there is hardly any work boom in Adelaide. So considering your situation based on what you have mentioned, I think you are not doing too bad. I assume you two are currently on work visas? Any chance of applying for PR while you are in the country?
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:48 AM

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By the way I am currently working in Australia. In my 5th year of work now in construction. I feel bad for your wife it must be hard doing factory work. Yes I remember the Oz day speech you were referring to from Mr Teo. I am not saying there is no racism in Aust. I am just wondering if that is the case in the situations you have mentioned. Glad to know you have started the PR process. Skills assessment....why are you not confident...is your qualifications not suitable or something?
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:39 PM)
Even if they discriminate against you base on race or age, they are not going to tell you or anyone else that they did not hire you becuase of your age/race, right?

They are simply gonna tell you "we have found better candidates that more appropriately matches our job scope" or something along those lines. They are not stupid to discriminate against you in front of you and risk having a lawsuit, right? So how to sue?

Discrimination can take many forms and not necessary must be direct.
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Yeah but the thing is they are not supposed to ask you discriminatory questions in the first place
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:37 PM)
It is how it is.
Like how they ask you what's your last drawn salary so that they can either underpay you or tell you your pay is too high.
It's also another form of discrimination. It happens everywhere.
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well you dont have to answer if you dont feel comfy doing so. salary wise you can always lie. you will encounter bad hats here and there but they won't be in the majority.
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Apr 19 2012, 12:02 AM)
Well, that depends on whether they need you or you need them more. If you need a job more than they need you, do you have a choice?
But if they need you more then you need them, then you can tell them to piss-off and pay you a huge salary. No problem. But judging by the economic and job prospect for most sector in Aus, i think they got more candidate than jobs around.

yup thats up to you as the interviewee on how you wanna go about it. if you wanna work in that type of environment then you dont have a choice.


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Dude, they don't have to ask specifically.
They just interview you and when they see you are not white or whatever within their criteria, you just don't hear from them. That's all.
It's the same everywhere including myself when i hire. I don't tell them you don't get the job becuase you are XXXX. I just interview them and when i find out they are XXX i just don't call them back. You can sue all you want but you got nothing.
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Yup the employer will discriminate discretely in this case. No biggie here, just move on to the next prospective employer and take it from there.



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post May 24 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Job2Go @ May 24 2012, 11:32 AM)
im based in Queensland, Australia. im in the international job placement industry.. basically we find jobs for overseas people..
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WOW you are gonna be a huge help to alot of ppl in here! Good to know
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post May 28 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(FirFir @ May 28 2012, 05:21 PM)
Is chef job still big demand in Australia?
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Just look in the DIMIA website all the info is there

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