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post Dec 5 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 3 2011, 08:08 AM)
there are many people still waiting to be approved. it depends whether your occupation is under priority list or not

they going to increase visa fee starting next month.gonna apply for bridging visa b before they increase
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if not approved, then apply somewhere else lar....
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post Dec 19 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Dec 19 2011, 02:19 PM)
1) I am not talking about high flying job when I mention struggling. I am talking about the simple kind of job where you work at a clerk in supermarket and you still get to live decently in Aus. Can a cashier live as decently in MY?
2) You pay higher tax in Aus but at least you know where the money goes. Do you know where all your tax money end up in MY?
3) I am talking about generally. Don't lah go compare work that require 24/7 standby.
4) Do you know what is the status of MY's education system? The government are using education as in the political games. Do you have any idea how bad it is?
5) Yup staying is expensive in Aus only if you compare it with other country. If you work there and live there. It shouldn't be big problem. And of course I don't ever mean someone who migrate with nothing. That's suicide whichever country you are going.
6) I know every country have their own problems. Politics, social and so on. But if you weight the problems they are facing in Aus or Sg or Can with MY, I think you know which is the worst.

I am getting advise from someone who migrated there and struggled there (in Aus) for 20 years and still thinks it is a worth it. They are the perfect example for my reference. Who is your reference for your point of argument? The internet?
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I agree with you. However I find it hard to believe Divine....my sense.
I do have bunch of my former colleagues who migrated to Aus. Just to cut the long story short, they are happier and more prosperous in Australia compare to in Malaysia. They're just in their early to mid 30s.

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post Jan 11 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Dec 30 2011, 10:50 PM)
fyi, im not criticizing Australia, just wanna point out to some that Aus have their bad points also..(so does MY)
and dun always think the grass is greener on the other end....
and the most important point dun migrate due to money.. as its not easy when u first step foot there..
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I think your case represents the minority migrants. From my observation, most of them prosper after 1-2 years in aus. The first 6 months or 1 year can be a challenge to all migrants as they have to adjust to the new culture, environment etc. In terms of employment, the companies prefer someone with local experience. However most of them manage to secure jobs between 3-6 months. I have ex colleagues who migrated there & they said it's worth to face the challenge in the first fews months because after these challenging period, the fruits will start to bear...and they never looked back since. It's all has to do with our character and attitude of how we carry ourselves in a new country.

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post Jan 12 2012, 10:10 PM

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The replies given by tester are very true and valid. Those my ex-colleagues who migrated to Australia and are happily settle down there share the same opinion as tester. The fruits will eventually bear if we keep our options open in terms of employment.

T3N5AI, beware of mercury8400. This fella is pouring cold water & he's jealous of people migrating to a better place with greener pastures. Let me elaborate more on the so called 'asian names when looking for job in aus' brought up by mercury. Most Aussies do not know how to pronounce our Asian names particularly Chinese names. If the Asians adopt an English first name in their CV, it would make life easy for the employer to call you. It doesn't matter if the surname is Lee, Wong, Ong, Leong, Yap, Chan etc etc. Here I don't see it's a problem coz most Chinese working in Msia adopt an English name in their work place for whatever reason...glamour, I guess. Those who never used an English name while working in Msia, then just address yourself as John Tan, Michael Chan, Andrew Yap, Harry Wong etc once you're in Aust. It's not a problem at all, mercury8400 jz talking rubbish without knowing the facts and it only makes him look like a fool.

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post Jan 12 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 12 2012, 10:20 PM)
Making assumptions about me eh?
Even if you have a english name and can "fool" the aussie, how are you going to "fool" him during interview?
Paint yourself white?
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There're lots of asians who speak the same English accent like us hold high post in banks, listed companies, mnc in Aust. It's their capabilities that make them succeed in their career & not age, gender or skin colour.
From how you post your comments, it's evidently clear that you're pouring cold water & jealous of people seeking greener pastures in a better place.
Then why are you in Singapore? why don't you stay back in Malaysia?

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post Jan 13 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 12 2012, 10:59 PM)
How is Aus a better place compared to SG?

1) SG welcomes foreigners especially Chinese Malaysian - Aus, not really a welcome foreigner kind of place with its tight immigration law.
2) Easy to get PR/Citizen - None of that point based sh1t or "tightening of immigration laws" happening every year in Aus.

Read the comment from jsk01. Can't you understand?
3) No discrimination. Actually most com in SG prefer to employ Malaysian since MOST can speak good English, Mandarin and Malay (3 main language of SG). - Aus prefer caucasion Australian or UK/American/European not so much Asian, unless you work in an Asian firm. Def mentioned there are lots of Asian holding high ranking position, but how many in terms of % compared to caucasion? Ans: very few if compared to Caucasion.

The ratio between asian:caucasian is very small. That makes up the reason for it. 50-60% of migrants in Aust are from UK & Ireland. However there're lots of Indians & Chinese from China work in the senior management level in most MNCs eg Motorola, GE etc. Please get your facts right before posting.

4) Low tax. - Aus Super high tax....as high at 30-40% of total package.

If you're a 457 visa holder (work permit, not PR/citizen), yes your tax will be ard 30-40%. On average PR/Citizen tax rate is between 20-23% - some slightly higher & some slightly lower. PR/citizen will also enjoy Medicare benefit & FTB payment from Centrelink (those who got family & children). Please get your facts right before posting.
5) Safety. - Aus not as safe as SG

Please read comment from tester. Can't you understand?

6) Career prospects. -Many Regional HQ are in SG - Aus, Not many only Aus based company has HQ in Australia.

I don't deny SG is a financial hub in SEA. Same as Hong Kong. What it has got to do whether the HQ in Aus or not? You still work under the same umbrella. Then can you name me which Aus company's HQ is not in Aus? How many % of it? where are the evidence? stop talking rubbish without any evidence. 


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I am not promoting Aus & I also agree that Singapore is good for many Malaysians to seek greener pastures. There're lots of Singaporeans migrated to Perth- you should ask them why? Perth has gained a nickname called '2nd Singapore'.

I am still waiting for you reply to Tester comment. Why are you so quite? & or you have lost your face, dare not reply anymore.

Below is your posting taken from other thread:-
"But then again when the economy is bad (like this year) or they don't need you or can find a better replacement than you, its bye-bye to you. There is no job security in SG. Unlike in M'sia where you can go to the labour court and claim unlawful dismissal, in SG no such things."

You should recognise the above comment made by you in other thread. Then why are you still in Singapore? if you feel that Malaysia is better.
You have made yourself a stupid fool by posting stupid comments that have no proof to support.


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post Jan 14 2012, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 14 2012, 02:14 PM)
in my case(my company/uni), they will let u go in time or earlier.if busy,they will ask who want to stay for another 1 hour and course its paid. if OT after 6pm, the paid will be 50% more.
i worked OT during sunday and i got double for that day
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That's the benefit in Aust. In Msia, the companies will treat you like trash even if you work on Sunday.

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post Jan 16 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 16 2012, 06:03 PM)
you or your team having bad experience in a VERY respectable bank doesn't mean other teams having the same issue too. could be your department that the only worst department or etc..

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with no PR , do you think this mercury can work in a VERY respectable bank in Aust for 3 years??
Come on, this mercury is bluffing....he thinks we are so naive & don't know anything. He got nothing else to say & simply make up stories saying he & some Asian work colleagues had bad experience in Aust bank.
Beside his 'powderful' englik, he's also a sifu in making up stories....out from no where, suddenly there's a story of mercury worked in Aust bank...what a joke! If we talk about England, then there will be a story of mercury worked in a bank in England....if Canada, there will be another legendary story of mercury worked in Canadian bank....& so on.


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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 16 2012, 06:03 PM)
anyway, you are right that not to look at the pros only but also need to look what is the pros in malaysia too. IF you feel that malaysia pros are better, stay in malaysia.

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with his attitude, he cannot progress further regardless where he works.


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post Jan 17 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 16 2012, 05:38 PM)
I've studied in Aus for 3 years and worked for 3 in a very respectable Bank in Aus. I know what I saw and I know what i've been through. All the Asian in my batch has left due to similar reason. There are those that choose to accept it (like they accepted it in Malaysia - when working for GLC) and there are those that don't and move on - those that migrated. I'm just telling those who have NOT been to Aus to NOT be swayed by sweet talks of all the Pros of living in Aus. In other words I'm giving you an alternative view from all the non-sense some forumers spew without working in Aus or just because few were lucky enough to land a "good" job.

I have a compliment for you. You're not only good with all your foul language but you're also good in making up stories. I am eager to know without a PR, how can you land a job in a bank in Australia? what visa was that? can you describe? Btw where are your foul language gone? We know that 3 days suspension taught you a lesson due to your postings in Working In Singapore thread & it was so unfortunate that the moderator was in that thread. In this thread, you're free to say anything.

But I truly believe that you studied for 3 yrs in aus. Isn't that made you a hypocrite....since you don't like Aust & yet you spent money studying in Aust. I am also eager want to know your explanation. You said you worked 3 years in Aust?...was it while holding student visa, you worked for limited hours in fast food outlets (Hungry Jacks, Mac D, KFC, Subway)....and you substitute fast food outlets with banks? Come on...even a blind person knows you're bluffing & beating the bush.

You're not only made a fool of yourself but you also prove you're a hypocrite....or should I say fool cum hypocrite (don't like aus but spent money studied in aus).

I am still waiting for your reply to the comments posted by tester just before your suspension last week. It looks like you agree to tester's comment by keeping quite.
     
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jan 17 2012, 10:06 AM)
Almost everyone that I know who wants to get a job in Australia (or NZ) have it very hard.

If you are one of those lucky ones who got a good job with a good pay in Aus then good for you. But the majority isn't like that. My family has migrated over there and almost all of our family friends that we know aren't able to get a decent job.

First of all, you have to be prepared to be downgraded. We know someone who is a top marketing director here and the only job she could find was photostating documents in the council, her whole family is a PR before she started to look for a job. Some of my family friends in Malaysia have their children studying in Aus and want them to get a job there in hopes that they'll get a PR. One of the son calls back and tell the mom that he's working 'like a foreign worker in Malaysia' in Australia - helping to unload trucks at hypermarkets. That was the only job he could find, well at least that's a job. Another friend's daughter has been studying there for years cause she can't find a job, now she's taking another course for early child development or something which will involve lots of practical on-site work, so she hopes she can get a job with this qualification and local experiences in the future.

Just sharing some of the family get-together stories I always come across.  smile.gif
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No offence please. Your comments represent the small minority migrants. For large majority asian migrants regardless which countries, you can refer to my reply posting to annielee on Jan 11 10:38pm

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post Jan 17 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jan 17 2012, 10:36 AM)
Just remember another one of my family friend who was Singaporean and migrated to NZ (not Aus) over 10 years ago. Their daughter studied in NZ and graduated as a speech therapist. Unable to find a job for over a year now and is considering going back to Singapore to get a job. The parents feel kinda disappointed as they gave up everything to go over there in search for a better life and now the daughter has to go back to their home country to get a job.
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Here i am not promoting Aust, NZ, Msia or SG. It depends on a person's field of profession. Some professions are highly demanded & some not. The job opportunity for speech therapist is limited in NZ & I can understand why she can't find a job unless she's in a highly demanded profession like teachers, engineering, accounting, IT, medical related profession etc.
It's even worst in Msia & SG because the speech therapist profession almost do not exist unless she's willing to sacrifice her dream job & take up any general job like marketing, administrator etc.


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post May 19 2012, 11:03 PM

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, only me and bf staying
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Staying with bf !! Do u know it is wrong to engage in pre-marital sex?
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post May 20 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(static @ May 20 2012, 09:50 AM)
Wow, which era are you living in now? 1800s?
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sorry to hear that you indirectly admitted that you lost your virginity before marriage. Wish both of you & bf all the best.



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post May 20 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(naleh33 @ May 20 2012, 07:02 PM)
Hey dude!! That is a personal attack. Are you her dad? Tell that to your sons or daughters.
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sorry static.
btw, is it wrong if I wish someone all the best in their relationship?



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post May 30 2012, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Job2Go @ May 30 2012, 07:56 AM)

so before we can do the visa, we will find u a job first.. at a fee of course..
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who pays for the fee charges? employers or candidates?

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post May 30 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Job2Go @ May 30 2012, 11:05 AM)
lol thank you for the heads up. people pls be aware of such companies, take comfort that my company is not like this. we will have a formal and legal contract with u, that is it will state the amount we charge our clients, AUD$1k to find u a job, once we find u a job, AUD$3k u need to pay. and that is it. if u not happy, get a refund. nothing too sneaky or too difficult for u clever pple.

whatever u and the company discuss is between u and the company, we will have nothing to do with ur agreement w the company..

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Job2Go, pardon me please. I just feel that something is not very right here.....it sounds like a scam.
If you don't mind, can you please PM me with the details of your company. I have never came across that jobseekers have to pay the agents for looking for a job for them.....as I said, can it be a scam ???

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post Jun 15 2012, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Job2Go @ Jun 15 2012, 08:14 AM)
Our services will include finding a employer in Australia who is willing to employ our client (you). The Australian employer is a legally operating organisation, by the standards and regulations set by the government. The employer is legally obligated to pay the candidate (you) an annual salary of at least AUD$49,330.

There will be two payments, of which totals to AUD$4k; an initial upfront of AUD$1k and then AUD$3k once we get you a job. The fees are refundable, though an administrative expense of AUD$250 is non-refundable.

If you fail in the interview, we will still put you in our system to find you a job. We promise our candidates (you) to get a positive response within 90 working days.
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Till now I still find that this is not genuine.
Is the AUD$1k refundable if your client manages to find a suitable job on his own? and is it refundable if your client wants to terminate your service?
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Job2Go @ Jun 15 2012, 09:10 AM)

Come on mate, we are legally operating company, with an ABN and an office (just 5 mins away from one of our bro's here). Why would we want to scam you?

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My apology. I just try to play safe & careful.


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post Jul 13 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Jul 13 2012, 01:49 AM)
dear all forummers

currently i am doing a bachelors degree  in management and marketing and its under university of wollongong which is an Australian Uni. I want to work in AU after graduating in one and a half years. So what are my chances. please guys suggest which is visa to apply?

Or if i want to go by employer sponsored visa how to find the sponsorers? how to apply please suggest and help me people
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Starting 1 July, they have tighten the rules...make it more difficult for people to enter.


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