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This post has been edited by AMDAthlon: Jan 25 2011, 09:46 PM

donno ler.. by looking on it.. feel like asus is the winner..

according to asus official website, 6870 come with aluminium cover, others is plastic cover??

really? never knew about it.. let who had hold it to confirm..

Ask our forumer here..they have the cards already

c-zone on stock already kah?

those reviews kinda confusing actually.

in som review, 6870 is on par, if not slightly better den gtx470.

in som review, 6870 is just barely better den gtx460 & loosing out in a lot fo the cases.

yup different games also all varies..
donno la what actually affected those..
driver, cpu power, game patches..

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Added on October 22, 2010, 9:49 pmor bias reviewers.. lol

This post has been edited by 8tvt: Oct 22 2010, 09:49 PM

guru3d clearly shows 6870 is somehow a little faster den gtx470, while bit-tech reviews shows dat 6870 barely on par with gtx460 1GB.

i think i trust guru3d better

which review only show the true performance level of the 2 new cards?

6850 going to cost ~RM750 and according to sources, it is as easy as 5850 to overclock its core to 1GHz (with some voltage bump) and it gives GTX460 a run for its money. going to buy if it drops down to ~RM500

hd6850 cost rm750, i think rm6xx can get?

I like how some of the reviews also question AMD's need to name what should have been the HD 6700 as HD 6800.

The cards look good and they're on my shortlist to buy if I need them, but they would have been much more classier and impressive if they were the HD 6700.

yea, agree with this statement.
HD6700 let people feel it is more mainstream.

hmm, this is just the estimation, but taking into currency exchange and shipping cost. probably it will cost RM700+ when it reached our shore and then drops to ~RM650.


AMD already mentioned they want accomodate for some naming conventions used on their fusion products, so it will be saturated with many models coming next year, thats why they moving 57XX to 68XX

this is true. this something we just got to get used to. in the long run, with more product entering the market and amd gaining market share, hopefully we will see by end of next year amd shown to have its renaming convention justified. already upcoming is 69xx series next month which means xmas shopping gonna be so exciting, imagine 2011 gonna be full of surprises and excitement.

oo so it is related with Fusion product eih?

Maybe inside AMD Fusion APU featured if HD 6700 series?

I trust Guru3D more too. They tested more stuffs and they have better technicians and also the forumer in it(name TwL) create godlike driver for AMD GPUs as well.
On top of that, techpowerup show the similar result as Guru3D did. This will mean bit-tech is bullshitting here.

Radeon HD6870 doesn't have 3rd Party HSF Edition? But still, Stock HSF Edition always have very sexy looking. LOL.

anyone know about pricing???

by the given reason of why they moving up their model numbers, they are probably naming fusion as 62XX -> 66XX maybe.
So i actually dunno why AMD wanna name their fusion as their GPU model. As fusion is completely different from GPU, it is not a GPU alone but also a CPU.

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Added on October 22, 2010, 11:10 pmcheck earlier replies, it will be slightly below 460 1gb or same price. but expect to be pricier when it just launched here.

This post has been edited by sparrowed: Oct 22 2010, 11:10 PM

idealtech has hd6870 below rm800 and hd6850 below rm750 iinm.
imo we can expect the prices to reflect the official msrp in a months time or so

most 6850 is under rm700 iinm

what's 6850 and 6870 length?

dont want bring back home and not fit in casing

dookie's post:

6850 at 599 is reasonable

u can check it out on youtube... search for Linus tech tips and its one of the 3 newest vids around.. comparing the 6970, 5870 and gtx480....

P/S: the 6870 is about 1/2 inch shorter than the 5870

the 6870 about 9.75"

i guess i'll be waiting for HD6870m will inherit the HD6 series newly added features.

actually i would expect 6850 to cost Rm500 eventually, this chip is smaller and 40nm is much matured compare to 5850 days so they have more yields. I hope it can drop to RM400+

400+ too low. even 5770 is around 550~599. so expected price maybe above 600~700. maybe?...

Do you guys think 6870 could fit centurion 5?

6850 is RM650

Yes, while Radeon HD6870 is around RM 750.
These are all Non-OC Edition, I hope the OC Edition will be launched soon.

How much will the ASUS 6850 DirectCu cost at LYP?

the cheapest HD5770 is RM429/Cycom
imo if you want a HD6850 at RM4XX then wait for the HD78XX to release first

a HD6870 will fit in a CM Centurion 5 with around 3cm to spare

some review said that both of these card not really a ocer

both cards,based on reviews max out at 950mhz core,which means the HD6870 is quite a bad ocer,but the HD6850 is a good one

Hope the reviews are fake. So, we can have more juice out from them.

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Added on October 23, 2010, 12:29 amSame to the former Radeon HD5850 and Radeon HD5870. Radeon HD5850 have hell a lot OCing Headrooms compared to Radeon HD5870.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Oct 23 2010, 12:29 AM

Well actually..dont trust review so much about overclocking..they just sucks.

Many overclockers managed to get more than the one showed in review.

if there is a range distance of 10inches, then it can fit the 6870~~

Very true. Some reviewers are coward and don't dare to push.
Some are awesome, especially Guru3D's.

After some serious readings ... AMD Eyespeed = ATI Stream's new name?

i heard sum said it is AMD's physX

This post has been edited by chenhui87: Oct 23 2010, 12:43 AM

AMD EyeSpeed = AMD Physics Engine aka PhysX.

ATi Stream had been renamed to AMD APP if not mistaken.

I read the details in AMD's website. Its almost the same as previous ATI Stream

to do physics calculation like Nvidia PhysX, video decoding/encoding like Nvidia CUDA.

Yeah, perhaps AMD use APP for it. So many names. Perhaps Stream not working well so rename it?

The demos using APP or Eyespeed are Flash Player 10.1 and Cyberlink Power Director. Still not many.

Flash Player and CyberLink PD are most common software that normal people would use. So, they tested on them to show they're supported.

Yes, it's similar to Nvidia CUDA which used to do Video Decoding/Encoding and PhysX.
AMD named it as EyeSpeed only.

Hope to see it supported for Adobe Premiere just like Nvidia has. Hope that AMD improve the output quality for video decoding. Quality problem is the main issue for Stream.

As for gaming I was really enjoying my previous Radeon 5850. However, sold it because it's not supporting for Adobe MPE.

At the moment we discuss this, AMD website still hasn't added RADEON 6000 series. AMD has serious party tonite

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Added on October 23, 2010, 1:09 amI refreshed the site and 6000 series appears! GOD!!! I really did a double check!

This post has been edited by jeopardise: Oct 23 2010, 01:09 AM

Adobe Premiere Pro did support OpenGL(not only CUDA) too.
But, AMD have very bad OpenGL Renderer compared to Nvidia.

I used Autodesk Combustion(I think you should know this software, right?), when I enable OpenGL on it using my Radeon HD5870, it gives me slower performance. LOL. This make me disabled it. =.=!

You are right

Adobe chooses CUDA because AMD drivers was really buggy.

I think the AMD's chip is really good with Radeon 5000 and 6000 series. Maya has better performance with Radeons/FireGL. The software and driver must work very closely.

I don't think Maya have better performance with Radeon because Radeon is a gaming GPU. Similarly, it's bad on GeForce as well.
It has better performance with Workstation GPU only not Gaming GPU. Workstation GPUs = Quadro, Tesla, FireGL, FirePro.

gigabyte 6870 rm840... can check the latest price list from czone website...

gaygaybyte always show up fast in stores

asus a bit late.

ASUS and Gigabyte are usually selling their stuffs more expensive than other brands.
MSI did too but not everytime.

I think Radeon HD6870/HD6850 which is worth for bucks will be offered by brands like Sapphire, Power Color, HIS, XFX and so on.

i prefer xfx and asus, but cycom got no stock for this 2 brand now~~

XFX rolls out its own 68x0 Barts



This post has been edited by saturn85: Oct 23 2010, 02:04 AM

Perhaps wait a couple more weeks or not?, seems like all AMD Radeon 6870 are reference cooler design
Asus, Gaybyte, MSI, Sap

Just realise that the AMD CCC 10.10 was released.
It said to boost a lot of performance this time. I checked the changelog/release notes. It's impressive. I am downloading it right now.
Will post benchmark when I am free.

hmmm apparently XFX's custom cool 6850 temperature's alot better than reference

sauce :
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1445/16/

click here

Tested the AMD CCC 10.10a Hotfix(Sorry for just now, I forgot to mention I am not testing the WHQL's but the HOTFIX).

I tested on Metro 2033, I got slightly more FPS than last time.
Tested on Team Fortress 2, which I think it's useless to test on.
Run benchmark on 3DMark Vantage, surprisingly, it's awesome!
It surpass all those previous CCC as well as the current TwL Genetix Driver(Modded).

I highly recommend you guys to use this driver, it's just MARVELOUS!

finally physics engine for Ati
no nid to buy frm green camp

interesting. can't wait to see the lowyatians reporting usage. wonder how good the performance/eye candies will be. should be no difference to green camp rite?

This post has been edited by PrideNeverDie: Oct 23 2010, 08:23 AM

here is my lil comparison of ASUS HD6870 (ASUS own driver) & ASUS HD4870 DK (CCC 10.9) benchmark :

test setup :


3DMark Vantage @ Performance setting :


FF XIV Benchmark @ High setting :


This post has been edited by cwk88: Oct 23 2010, 08:35 AM

the layer cake is shorter than previous 5 series
can fit my casing

btw y not u do comparison wif 5 series
wan see how many score difference

why the result lower?
expecting hitting 15-16k..

cpu maybe..

physics engine? I hope they materialize in real games .. not just ATI Froblin Demos ... most games uses CPU physics (such as CryEngine) and some supports Nvidia PhysX.

cwk88, where do you get the Ninja Scythe 3 HSF? I spotted it in the photo you posted. LOL.

Based on the GPU score itself, it seems to be too low for Radeon HD6870. It should be hovering around 16000++ because Radeon HD5870 is hovering around 18000++. My OCed Radeon HD5870 with latest AMD Hotfix Driver can do 205XX score for the GPU in 3DMark Vantage.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Oct 23 2010, 10:32 AM

quote from computerbase.de

6850 with 6870 features....WOOTS

is asus using the aluminium cover for 6870?official website shown tat, is there anyone here can comfirm with it?

Is HD6850 & HD6870 already available at low yat.

yes, it is available~~~

so the cheapest HD6870 is from Sapphire.

how good is sapphire card quality?

quite ok ones.

so far no problem with this brand

yea..so far so good..now i using hd2600xt from sapphire

i wonder how long would the 6870 is,
longer than my 4890 vaporx?

the vapor-x series from this brand is awesome~~dun worry~~

it's 9.75"

is the hd6870 are more good then hd5870 or hd 5850?
i dont think new product from ati more good then the previous one
better go for the old one that are more stable i think...

but i think ati version kick ass then nvidia
i read many article on rebrand of nvidia
such as rebrand of 9500gt from 8500gt that use the same technology with just some little adding to the new card
unlike that,ati always come with new technology in their new card such as from ddr3 to ddr5 and mostly support directx11

does the 5xxx series price drop??...

yeah they rebrand their product in the past, now, no more rebranding. the 400 series is not a rebrand. The gtx460 is a good graphic card. Furthermore, they reduce the price further.

The 6800 series is also a very good card, but they are not meant to replace the 5800 series in term of performance. 6900 is meant to replace the 5800 series. they are coming this November.

its good to see ATi to struggle while catching up with the late nvidia release.

Haha guys, too busy with the 6 Series, don't forget about the latest driver...

CATALYST 10.10 OFFICIAL DRIVER IS AVAILABLE!

Download here:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Videocards---A...-Vista_c31.html


New Features

Introduction of AMD HD3D Technology

Blu-ray 3D support
o This release of AMD Catalyst™ provides support for Blu-ray 3D playback
o Requires Blu-ray 3D player software, 3D supported display and 3D Stereoscopic glasses
o Supported on the AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

Stereo 3D gaming support
o This release of AMD Catalyst™ provides support for Stereo 3D gaming via 3rd party Stereo 3D Conversion Software from Dynamic Digital Depth (DDD) and iZ3D
o Requires 3D supported display and 3D Stereoscopic glasses
o Supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series and AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

*More information on AMD HD3D Technology, including Stereo 3D Conversion Software and a list of supported displays, can be found at www.amd.com/hd3d


Introduction of AMD Catalyst™ Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) technology Edition
There will now be two variants of the AMD Catalyst package available:
AMD Catalyst™ – includes the Direct3D, OpenGL, Display driver and AMD Catalyst Control Center components
AMD Catalyst™ Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) technology Edition Edition (same as ATI Catalyst, but includes the OpenCL driver) – Everything found in AMD Catalyst, plus the OpenCL driver
Users can still grab all of the individual AMD Catalyst components as well (which will also include the OpenCL driver as well)


Video accleration for HD WMV video content
This release of AMD Catalyst™ provides video acceleration support for WMV HD (Microsoft video codec) under Windows 7
Supported on the ATI Radeon™ HD 5000 Series of products


Enahnced Dynamic Contrast video controls
This release of AMD Catalyst™ enhances the Dynamic Contrast setting found in the Catalyst Control Center by adding support for histogram based detection


Performance Highlights of the AMD Catalyst™ 10.10 release include:

Metro 2033™
· Performance increases up to 7% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series single and CrossFire configurations
· Performance increases up to 8% on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series single and CrossFire configurations
· Performance increases up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series in DirectX 11 and 10 modes
· Performance increases up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series in DirectX 11 and 10 modes
· Performance increases up to 4% on ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series in DirectX 11and 10 modes

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.™ : Call of Pripyat Benchmark
· Performance increases up to 7% on single ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products

Unigine™ Heaven
· Performance increases up to 9% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series single and CrossFire configurations with anti-aliasing enabled
· Performance increases up to 8% on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series single and CrossFire configurations with anti-aliasing enabled

World in Conflict™
· Performance increases up to 9% on ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series
· Performance increases up to 10% on ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series

Aliens vs. Predator™ DirectX 11 Benchmark
· Performance increases up to 6% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series single and CrossFire
· Performance increases up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series single and CrossFire
· Performance increases up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series
· Performance increases up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series
· Performance increases up to 4% on ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series

Crysis Warhead®
· Performance increases up to 9% on Single ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products with anti-aliasing enabled

Far Cry™ 2
· Performance increases up to 7% on Single ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products

hd6870 is replacement series or model for hd5770..

can see the score is much much better than previous hd5770.. bravo!

can't wait for hd5870 replacement aka hd6970 launching in november!!

why the price still remain rm800++
i thought only rm700++

wait awhile and see, hope the price will be stable soon.

wow..i see the bench really near with hd5870 but more cheaper..
wonder how the hd69xx perform..

BFBC 2 on HD6870

I hope next week HD6870 price will drop to RM700++

BTW, this card gonna be massive upgrade from my 9600gt.

can't wait for hd 6970

agree. if the recent release of 6870 and 6870 is any indication, the 69xx should at least be quite encouraging. November pls come quickly!

anyone tried overclocking their 6850 to 1ghz? very interested to see this.

i was hunting for eVGA GTS450 FPB. all shops nil stock except the more expensive superclock version at RM499. finally got myself a Sapphire HD6850 from Cycom at RM600 (cheapest in LYP). Most shops are not selling sapphire. even if they do, it's about RM650. gigabyte and asus are widely available. some even quote me RM720. wanna chop my head


temperature as reported from GPU-Z...
idle temp: 48C
load while running 3dmark vantage: 68C

the card is very quiet as compare to my friend's 5850. cooler too.
i'm running it on my puny Acbel iPower 450W PSU.

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Oct 23 2010, 09:13 PM