yup different games also all varies..
donno la what actually affected those..
driver, cpu power, game patches..

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Added on October 22, 2010, 9:49 pmor bias reviewers.. lol

Try not to compare ATI 6000 series with 400 series, don't forget, Nvidia 500 series is going launch on December. It is not to far from what we have seen now. But of course, now nvidia's bullet is just 400 series. XD

I hope there are more competitives on December, especially if... and only if Nvidia releases 560. 

now current high end stream is 6850<5850<6870<5870<6950<6970<5970<6990.

The news stated the 6970 performance will be much similiar or a bit higher than 480, 6950 will be btw 5870 and 6970. Those who own 5970 can really skip this generation as it still beat almost entire 6000 series (except 6990) out. 

i wonder why ati released 6000 series to kill 5850 and 5870, they are selling much more cheaper and forced 5000 series to drop price massively. are they ignoring any consequences just to compete against gtx460? now our 5000 series card resale value are like piece of shit

Following up on previously leaked specifications, Chinese website eNet has filled in some missing information - notably TDP and TMU count. The TDP of GeForce GTX 580 is at 244W, slightly lower than the GeForce GTX 480. The texture fillrate had been viewed by many as one of the bottlenecks for GF100, and eNet reports that GF110 effectively doubles the TMU count to 128 TMUs. Apart from this substantial improvement in TMU, the GF110 is a "full revision" and fixed version of GF100.

The net result is a performance improvement of between 15%-20% over the GTX 480, while using less power. It must be noted that the GTX 480's 250W TDP figure was controversial as they reflected typical load power for gaming applications, whereas stress benchmarks like Furmark used close to 300W, and this is the reference AMD uses for TDP ratings. It is unclear whether the 244W figure refers to gaming load or absolute TDP in stress applications.

In addition to eNet's report, purported benchmarks for the GTX 580 has leaked on the Chinese enthusiast community.



The benchmarks show an average improvement of ~17% for the GTX 580 over the GTX 480. The maximum increase is in 3D Mark Vantage - ~35%, while the minimum increase is in Resident Evil 5 ~5%. Against the Radeon HD 5870, the GTX 580 wins comfortably by an average of ~45%. The gaps are massive (~2x) in tessellation oriented benchmarks, building on GTX 480's strengths, while the DX10 benchmarks narrow the gap considerably. Unfortunately, according to these benchmarks, the GTX 580 will end up slower than AMD's previous-gen Radeon HD 5970, on average, let alone AMD's upcoming flagship - Antilles / Radeon HD 6990. GTX 580 against Cayman / Radeon HD 6950/70 is the real battle here. Naturally, we would advise you to take any such leaks with a grain of salt. 

The GTX 580 is set to release in one week's time, on November 8th/9th (depending on where you live), but the jury is still out on the extent of availability on release. While strong rumours suggest virtually no availability on launch, eNet insists that AIC partners will have GTX 580s on sale on November 9th. However, the quantity of cards for sale on November 9th is not mentioned.

i tried to get the info outside the AMD region..
but still not many care to explain about it.. 

they just put the demo.. but is it really benefit the current game?

my post got deleted? asking for question that related to pricing and point to where i found it is also call advertising? come on, at least let me know if i'm wrong

guys, how did you adjust the rpm of the gpu's fan? using MSI afterburner?

Are you kidding me? bro do more research carefully, on stock clock 6870 is still slower than stock 5850. 6870 becomes SLIGHTLY better than stock 5850 after it is overclocked (yeah 6870 is not overclock friendly). But if you want to compare OC 6870 VS OC 5850, man 5850 win way too far, remember 5850 is overclockable to 5870 performance. 

thx for the heads up, but what is the source of this chart?

what is your GC? post your score please

Antilles dual card packs two Caymans

Still scheduled for Dec 2010
Good news for AMD fans, the Antilles dual chip card will end up with two Cayman chips, something that promises that the card can end up significantly faster than dual-chip Radeon HD 5970.

Two Barts (Radeon HD 6850 or 6870) class chips would not be enough to provide a sufficient performance lead for the new Radeon HD 6990 X2 card. This is why ATI is using two Cayman chips and we also learned that the chip looks more like the Radeon HD 6950.

The funny part is that we still don’t exactly know what is behind Cayman, but we are doing our best to find out before November 22nd, the alleged launch date.

We expect TDPs around 300W but this is something that can only be confirmed at a later date. It will be very fast, that is certain, but we still don’t know who will win this winter graphics update showdown.

Cayman HD 6970 has 2GB 256-bit RAM
More info http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/2074...970-has-2gb-ram

Antilles (dual cayman) will be 4GB?

im using i5 750 x 5870.. just overclock your 750/760 to 3.5-4.0ghz then im sure u dont have any problem playing any type of games