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It would be nice if everyone follows this following example:-

Job Title : Video Butcher
Job Desciption : Video Editing
Years spent in company : 3+
Company : Local post house
Industry : Media / Communications
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : not sure. exec i guess since i'm dept. head.
Experience before joining : freelance / internship with same co. (1 1/2 yrs)
salary : RM 3k+

how about bonus? any contractual bonus on ur current job?

Job Title : Customer Service
Job Desciption : Helpdesk
Years spent in company : 12 months
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : Less than 2k

This post has been edited by tcping: Jun 27 2010, 11:22 AM

Hi, am i over paid, under paid or average?

Job Title : Network Engineer
Job Desciption : Related to Network
Company : US MNC
Industry : telco
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 3 and half years and almost 4 years
salary : RM 4000 + RM1000 transport allowance.


My senior said I am underpaid. What do u think ? Kindly comment on this.

This post has been edited by confusedguy2009: Sep 24 2009, 07:26 PM

Job title: Accounts Exe.
Job Description: Account related matters
Company/Industry: Hospitality
Location: Sarawak
Tenure: Permanent
Employment level: Executive
Experience before joining: 3 yrs
Salary: RM3.4k

Your salary is consider good given you are working in Sarawak. If you work in KL or Penang, maybe can demand 200-300 more.

Just promoted few months back, here is my update

Job title: Senior Associate
Job Description: Audit
Company/Industry: Big 4
Location: Singapore
Qualification: Degree
Tenure: Permanent
Employment level: Senior
Experience before joining: 3 yrs
Salary: S$3.9k

This post has been edited by chess_gal: Sep 24 2009, 11:02 PM

Job Title : Program Officer
Job Desciption : Administrative, Program Control + Support
Years spent in company : 2 years
Company : MNC (Get Outsourced there)
Location: Penang
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : Outsourced (not contract)
Employment Level : Junior Executive
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM2500

I consider myself extremely underpaid lor. :S

Current job got 1 month contractual bonus...that's the best part..but new job got better salary

Job Title : Project Engineer
Job Desciption : Attend proj meeting, design and built system according to specs
Years spent in company : 1 year
Company : MNC
Industry : Oil and Gas
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 1 year
Salary : RM 2400 + allowance


well quite good for general industry, but if compare within O&G field the pay is low.

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Added on September 25, 2009, 3:39 pm3 years i think is average ba.... 3 years with 4k basic + 1k allowance still underpaid? i dont think so

This post has been edited by Js84: Sep 25 2009, 03:39 PM

Job Title : Design Engineer (Electrical and Instrumentation)
Age: 28
Years spent in company : 5 years
Company: moderate-MMC
Location : Selangor
Industry : Engineering
Tenure : Permanent in company
Experience before joining : 0 years
Current basic : RM10k
Education level : Degree


Please comment if I am OVERPAID OR UNDERPAID? thanks.

i would say well paid
are you a PE?

which company? Location is in Bangi? SONY or HITACHI?

RM10K considered good pay. My cousin brother works in the same line with you, a design engineer too. He as a fresh grad. has less than RM3k.

Already 10k after 5 yrs still wanna ask am i underpaid.. overpaid also does it matter..best la if can get 10k like you at 28..what company?

Mine..

Job Title : Engineer
Age: 25
Years spent in company : 1 years++ (almost 2)
Company: Automotive
Location : Selangor
Industry : Engineering
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 0 years
Current basic : RM2.2k (after deduct EPF)
Education level : Degree

not really. i consider myelf underpaid. CPA and 3 yrs at big4 give me an advantage to pursue for betta pay... anyway~ my current working environment is gud..

if you all want to know whether under paid or over paid, very simple ... go apply few jobs and see if people offer you or not the expected salary ...

else, no people can answer as this is too subjective.

Job Title : Maintenance Technician
Age: 28
Years spent in company : 5 years
Company: MNC (Oilfield)
Location : Terengganu
Industry : Oil and Gas
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : fresh grad
Basic on joining : RM2.5K
Current basic : RM7K
Total allowance : 0
Education level : Diploma (Politeknik)
Benefits : optical RM1K), medical (unlimited cover by ING insurance card),
Working hrs: 8.30am-5.15pm (flexi hour 5days/week)/ 100% onshore base.
Remark : Anytime can be fired due to small error.

Job Title : Channel Manager
Job Desciption : Manage Channels
Years spent in company : 1+
Industry : I.T. (Corporate Sales)
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining : 5 years
Salary : RM4300 (Basic + Monthly Allowances). Avg. commission around RM1.7k-2k / month only.

Feels like I'm not getting enough. Well, money is never enough anyway.

Any comments?

Job title: Account Clerk & Admin
Job Description: Account related matters & admin
Company/Industry: Engineering
Location: Selangor
Tenure: Permanent
Employment level: Fresh Entry
Experience before joining: 1 yrs
Salary: RM1300 + allowance

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Added on September 30, 2009, 11:13 amhey guy, how much "It support" salary should be

I'm 2 years exp in free lance computer maintanance
professional cert in computer maintainance

This post has been edited by jordanjoker: Sep 30 2009, 11:13 AM

Hi!!

I would like to know how much salary for a Company Secretary (also known as Chartered Secretary) as based on market rate? with The Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators (ICSA) professional degree qualification as well as 2 yrs experience..

Anyone can justify it?

Highly appreciate!!!

when you say Telco field, is it more towards IP networking (router and switches) or 2G 3G Wimax kind of networking?

Lets dont take allowance into consideration.. With almost 4 years experience in telco field, RM4k basic only slightly underpay..
The 1k allowance definately help a lot

Job Title : Software Developer
Job Desciption : Develop ERP application in web base form.
Years spent in company : 4 months
Company : IT Company
Industry : IT
Tenure : Probation
Employment Level : Junior I think... But I'm the one with most experience on my job field in my company
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad with 4 months internship exp
Salary : RM 2200

This post has been edited by omyfish: Oct 1 2009, 11:49 PM

then how much you tink he shud be paid....i mean for the basic?

Job Title : IT Consultant
Job Desciption : everything about portal
Years spent in company : 1 year
Company : IT Company
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : junior
Experience before joining : 1 year
Salary : RM 3k

Can I still considered my salary pacakage is (basic + allowance) or just (basic only) when i jum to other company ?Thank you.





What is your opinion ? i am in dilemma now.

plus allowance

Some forumers adviced the allowance is not considered as a package when u jum ship in the future and new company only considered your package is basic without added in your allowance.
Is it true. Please advice. thank you very much.

Just include your fixed allowance in the basic salary. Of course the new Co. will consider the allowance as income, course at the end you are getting all into your pocket.

unless the allowance is those in claim format.. like petrol, toll and mobile fees..

where u claim the full amount as per use.. those will not be consider as fixed income and some new company will not include those in... but u can show the the average amount of claim... to justify to add those in..

I think the pay is so-so, you can get better offer via headhunter. Probably 30-50% more.

Job Title : Senior Test Engineer 2

Job Desciption : Sustain production by modified test program, test hardware, yield improvement , verified low yield, help to solve production problem troubleshooting (low yield and setup issue), conversion project (old test system to new test system)

Years spent in company : 2years 3 months
Company : MNC semiconductor US
Industry : Semicon
Tenure :
Employment Level : Exempt
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM 3.4K +2.25moth bonus + quarterly bonus x4 = 1 months
working hour: 8.00 to 5:30,
but normally go home 8PM to 10PM.

Extremely high workload , documentation a lot. High expectation from boss..

Thinking of change job , how you all think?

High paid high job load, thats normal. If you are auditor, be prepare work till 1-2am when peak hours.

Normal be 9-10pm.

guys, what would be the standard for working in a distributor/trading house as a distributor/marketing exec?

eg. dksh/ zuellig.

Job Title : Business Development Assistant
Job Desciption : Admin & Marketing (Oversea)
Years spent in company : 3 months
Company : Local
Industry : Pharmaceutical
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Assistant
Experience before joining : 1 Part-time job & 1 Contract job
Salary : RM 1900

Hi, I would like to know how would the procedure of payment/contract is like when you do freelance in the advertising industry?

This post has been edited by g r a p e k e y: Oct 15 2009, 01:11 AM

I got a job offer recently from a multinational company in Shah Alam as an Engineer, and the salary they offered me is as follows:

- under probation time (3 months): RM2000
- after probation time RM2200 + RM100 transportation allowance. 12 days annual leave and other medical benefits. The annual increment is 5-6%.

It's a big japanese company but I'm not sure why the pay load is too little. Normally it's 2500-2600 for this kind of industry. is this normal from a japanese company?
any comments or comparison would be appreciated! Thanks in advance..

This post has been edited by ai1603: Oct 15 2009, 01:15 PM

From my experience, I haven't seen contractual jobs because for all freelance jobs in advertising industry, normally they will pay by project base, not contract base.

For Project base jobs, it could be translation, copywriting, artwork design, editing etc. There are mainly 2 ways of payment mode:
1. 50% down payment upon confirmation, subsequently 50% upon submission of final work
2. 100% full payment upon final work

You may consider to adopt option 1 if the advertising agencies that you work with are new agencies or small agencies that you work with for the first time. Reputable agencies are fine, they will keep promise and punctual in payment.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 15 2009, 08:40 AM

Hey peeps, is 4 grand for an assistant manager post in MNCs considered high, low or average? Given the fact that one has 3 years of prior working experience.

Just to share:-

My company staff's info:-

Job Title : Cleanner + Sweeper + Gardenner (Blangadesh) 5.5 days week
Years spent in company : Not necessary
Company : Singapore Company
Industry : Spare Parts Manufacturing
Tenure : Permanent/Contract
Employment Level : Junior Low
Salary : SGD1,050 to SGD1,200

white collar jobs worth a lot more in sg

Currently:-

Job Title : Design Engineer (Civil & Structural)
Age: 23
Years spent in company : 2 months
Company: Small sized consultancy firm
Location : Selangor
Industry : Engineering
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : Fresh graduate
Current basic : RM 2400
Education level : Degree

Being offered:-

Job Title : Management Trainee
Age: 23
Years spent in company : -NA-
Company: Mid sized specialist sub contractor
Location : Selangor
Industry : Engineering
Tenure : -NA-
Experience before joining : -NA-
Basic offered: RM 2000
Allowance offered: RM 275
Education level : Degree
Perks : A chance to go overseas at the end of Manage Trainee Program

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

What do you all think eh?

Chance = not guranteed? Any bond involved? If got bond, better not go 4 it ..... coz if later not ur cup of tea, jia lat liao....stay u not happy, leave must pay money.

What is "go to overseas"? Go there for leisure purpose? For training? For project? From your description I dont see your offer being any better compared to your current. The title "management trainee" might just be another gimmick that most companies use.... (the title "management trainee" is intensively misused nowadays)

i guess it depends. if you are required to work in shift, then i think you can consider, allowance as part of the package.

i think it also depends on how you bargain/nego with the new co.

i was getting rm2.2k basic and rm3k travel allowance... so every month i draw abt rm5.2k (sometime more coz i claim stuff)

so when i went to sime darby interviu i request only 5k... they said 2k ->5k is more than double.. i said no wor i get rm5k now wo... then they say NO NO ur basic only rm2k.. so last last i didnt accept coz they said the most is 4.5 nia cannot 5...

Mind to share what sector are you in? 3k travel allowance is crazy man. No Co. will believe that if you base in office. Generally will think the 3k is the business travel claim then part of ur income. 2k+3k really doesn't make sense.

BTW wat post you interview in Sime Darby?

oh.. i was working in thailand for 1 yr... 1 month come back msia once... so 1 day travel allowance rm100 loh

Senior Analyst

question:
With RM800 salary, is it possible to live n work in kuantan?

nice travel allowance u got there.. some more live in thailand.. can save a lot

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Added on October 22, 2009, 8:59 amdepends on your lifestyle.. when i was on internship in kl, i can survive with only rm500 per month.. but i travel by motorcycle and dinner at home..

This post has been edited by zydoce: Oct 22 2009, 08:59 AM

rm 800 still able to save ?

This post has been edited by DarReNz: Oct 23 2009, 04:50 AM

assuming you own a motorcycle (only), dinner at home, weekend lepak at home, then you would be able to save..

Very easy solution, earn less, then spend less. If earn less still spend more, then you looking for trouble.

In 2001, I earn only RM800 in Subang. But still able to save some money. It really depend how you budget you expense.

hi guys, i was offered 2.5k - 2.8k SGD to work in sg as a php programmer. do u guys think the offer is kinda low?

forget to mention, i got 3 yrs exp as php programmer

This post has been edited by uNeVErwaLkaloNe: Oct 23 2009, 04:53 PM

2.8 for 3 years of experince, i think is low..

summore u are expatriate dude if work on another country

hey guys,

b4 this,i'm work with my company(outsource) for UNIX support using degree and salary is about 1.9k.Now,after one year,i think my salary should increase too because i have one year experience.So, can i send letter to HR about increasing my salary up to 2.5k?

Why the offer got range one?? I tot it shld be confirmed figure?

SGD2.8k for 3 years experience is too too too too low.
Even fresh grad (Singapore uni) get that amount.

Obviously they pressed your salary because you are considered as foreign workers like bangla or indon....

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Added on October 24, 2009, 10:46 pmAll, the following infos are collected from my cousins who are aware of Lowyat net or with not good enough english to publish something here (they speak bahasa pasar yes...including the teacher...)




Official Job Title : Guru Kaunseling (Teacher)
Part time job: Tuition teacher at small town (Paloh, Johor)
Job Desciption : Guru Kaunseling (Teacher) - waste time and show face at school to cheat tax payer money he said that himself
Tuition teacher at small town (Paloh, Johor), very easy only... tipu makan only... he said small town kids very easy to teach


Years spent in company : 5 years
Company : Government and students
Industry : Education
Salary : RM 4k inclusive of allowance
Income from teaching tuition: RM15k a month. Yes! RM15k a month..

Other information:
Age: 28
Marital Status: Married with 1 kid
House: Semi-D RM500k
Car: Camry 2.0 G


Official Job Title : Fish monger (wholesale)
Job Desciption : wake up early at 3am to buy fish from stupid fishermen and sell to other smaller stall owners, then go back to sleep at 11am.

Years spent in company : 10 years
Company : Government and students
Industry : Fishery
Salary : RM 25k average


Other information:
Age: 30
Marital Status: Married with 2 kids
House: double story link house RM300k
Car: Camry 2.4

Wow... look at the figures.. i feel ashamed of myself.... study so hard and good for nothing in my life





This post has been edited by jacboy: Oct 24 2009, 10:46 PM

fml?

no company will treat you as an expatriate or send you for oversea assignment until you demonstrated outstanding work performance to them. Don't worry TS, join 1st, proof to them your worth and move up from there. keep up the spirit

1. Is it because your cousin owns a tuition centre and that's why he earns RM15K? Impossible to earn this figure if he is working part-time as tuition teacher.

2. Yes. Hawkers, fishery industry do earn lucratively. Moreoever, they earn CASH money EVERYDAY, aka how much you sell today, how much you earn today.

Job Title : Student
Job Desciption : Study
Years spent in company : Nil
Company : SMJK Jit Sin
Industry : Nil
Tenure : 5years
Employment Level : Form 1
Experience before joining : Nil
salary : RM0k

You seem so desperate to post ur detail, even though not working nor having salary.

We will welcome you again once you start work & more mature.

i ask few of my IT friends working in sg, apparently most of them were in the same range..well, the offered salary range can't really attract me. i was offered the job by a head hunter, so i expect the offer should at least match what i got here (no currency conversion).

Job Title : Audit assistant
Job Desciption : performing statutory audit on private limited companies
Years spent in company : 1.5 years
Company : accounting firm
Industry :audit and taxation
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : junior exec i guess
Experience before joining : nil, fresh grad
salary : RM 1.3k

Grossly underpaid work ~

How? Work part time as tuition teacher can earn RM15k?
The students pay RM500 every month?

Different industry, different working hours, different benefits, different prerequisite lah.

i dont have degree, didnt do sales @ own a business but still earn 2.7k when i was a fresh grad.. dont expect with degree you can easily get 2-3k..

Agreed on the bolded part.

news report - RM3000 is considered urban poor. I believe many fall into this category lol.

That's why we are all considered underpaid also.

I am not sure how exactly the figure work out...for the tuition teaching cousin...


Lets say 1 student per subject is RM35. Each student take 3 subjects on average.
that's RM105 per student

i class, he can accomodate 30 students-> 40x105= RM4200
3 classes= 3 xRM4200= RM 12600?

rmb? he is popular...



the point here is to tell u all that a tuition teacher and fish monger can be very damn rich.....

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Added on October 27, 2009, 8:45 pmHanming1996,

u r still young, do you know how I earn my first RM1k before the age of 16?

I scored straight As in PMR and my relative gave me reward! RM1k... study hard dude.

This post has been edited by jacboy: Oct 27 2009, 08:45 PM

I feel like want to change job now.

i think it's household income ... but if you are the sole breadwinner (both parents retired) ... and have a couple of siblings still schooling ... doesn't own a house yet ... then ... yeah ...

teaching is not difficult... trust me, i tried it..

my cousin always ask me to teach along with him at tuition but i dont want even the $$$ is good..
i simply dont have the heart to cheat ppl's money... its "pian chiak" and tipu makan....

If students' result show improvement, then yes; else the parents will come back to you.
Maybe the students in Johor are smarter?

RM3000 not even enough to pay mortgage and car loan

a lot of ppl just teach tuition can become $$$ include music as well @house to house

This post has been edited by DarReNz: Oct 28 2009, 03:31 AM

I teach piano from house to house.
It's tiring and time consuming.

that is your financial management problem especially on car ...

Teaching music won't really will be rich. Only if you are famous. Then can demand higher fees & alot of student.

Remember teaching music is mostly one on one. How many student you have in a day it count.

If average RM100 fees per student per month for 30 minute. 1 day average teach 6hours for 5 day.

6hours/0.5hr X RM100 X 5days = RM6000.

But you must have 60 student to make up the figure. Which quite few teacher have that much student.
Average teacher will only have 20-40 student at most.

If you teach house from house, the teaching time will be half.

Teaching house to house will be included petrol charge according to students' house. But no doubt the time allocated for house-to-house teaching will be gone down to half. However, piano fee for classical music is standard, I'm doubt if there's any possibility to demand higher according to teachers' fame.

But yes, the higher qualification the teacher is, the higher fees he/she can demand. Just like normal Grade 8 teacher and Diploma holder teacher charge differently.

Music teacher teaches pop music, jazz music other than classical music, and pop/jazz music fees are double more expensive than classical music!

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 28 2009, 08:35 PM

Is it that teaching Pop/Jazz are more expensive? Didn't realise that.

I'm use to be a Classical Guitar teacher, pop are quite easy, & no need special skill & technique. So I charge same rate as Classical. Only thing trouble is Pop song available for guitar are limited, you need to arrange it for student.

Anyway teaching music not as that easy & can earn a lot, my friend full time teaching Violin in Yamaha, most student are beginning to Grade 3. Although the school assign all Violin student to him, but still only have 20+ student. Teach during Thursday to Sunday. So far the paid not >2k.

Yes, pop and jazz music do charge at higher fees.

Classical music lessons need attention and more stressed cos parents expect their children take exam but somehow students are lazy, failed the exam and parents can push the blame on you.

I prefer teach pop music, less pressure and more pleasure cos most of the students are adults, easy to teach!

Ha ha.. it seem we discuss in the wrong topic. Anyway is nice to meet people who know & teach music. You teach in music school or house to house?
Of course, teaching pop is quite relax, no technical stuff to teach. Some more in some level just teach them how to arrange song like organ/keyboard player do. Just learning accompany & chord is enough. But normally pop song student won't be long term as compare to exam base student. They can learn when ever their sweet time, but exam student sure will bind to you till the exam over. Of course, a bit stress, but sure you can know whether they can pass or not before the exam. So just honestly tell the parent the student situation & confidentiality level.

For me, Teaching music is just as a hobby, may be a sub-income. It never can replace my main profession (Accounts & Finance)

Yes, pop song students are not learning for long term but at least they take the initiative to look for pop music lessons and they practise as what instructed. Exam based students are normally taking classes just to fulfill parents' order.

I'ld rather go for pop music students anyway.

ic ic, maybe piano are very popular which have alot of people want to learn, so you dun mind of losing student, & lot of nice pop song compare to Classical Guitar. And a lot of people have wrong impression between Classical & Acoustic Guitar. So I always emphasize to classical then pop in my teaching. Thus, Classical Guitar student will be not so popular, & most student are from 10-20 years old. Rarely have 5-10 years kids learning Guitar.

5-10 years old kids need special small guitar, which is more expensive.

Yes, i don't mind my adult students come and go. I enjoy having classes with students who have the heart to learn, than those who merely to fulfill parents' order but stick to me for long term.

Smaller Guitar... u mean half size or 3/4 size. Not that expensive lah... RM150-400 can get it already not really expensive. But not much choice.
My 1st Guitar cost RM800, current Guitar cost me 2k plus with case.

Anyway, you are right, willing learning student are more enjoy to teach. You can teach anything & explain all thing they interested to learn. And the achievement of student is enjoyable. At least all your hard work are worth it.

This is going way off topic

Did i accidentally stumbled upon Musician section instead of J&Career?

Let's not go too much off topic ok.

Job Title : Admin. Exec
Job Desciption : admin., account book keeping, secretary, inventory/logistics, sales report
Years spent in company : 1 year, 10 months
Company : Small sized company
Industry : Construction
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : exec. I guess..
Experience before joining : Fresh graduate
salary : RM 1800

Aiyoyo,

NT, if my situation continues, it will take me at least 2 more years to reach that.....I don't want to be "urban poor" at 28 years old