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jacktai
post Oct 6 2009, 11:40 AM

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Just include your fixed allowance in the basic salary. Of course the new Co. will consider the allowance as income, course at the end you are getting all into your pocket.
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post Oct 12 2009, 11:42 AM

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High paid high job load, thats normal. If you are auditor, be prepare work till 1-2am when peak hours.

Normal be 9-10pm.
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post Oct 21 2009, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Oct 21 2009, 02:57 PM)
i was getting rm2.2k basic and rm3k travel allowance... so every month i draw abt rm5.2k (sometime more coz i claim stuff)

so when i went to sime darby interviu i request only 5k... they said 2k ->5k is more than double.. i said no wor i get rm5k now wo... then they say NO NO ur basic only rm2k.. so last last i didnt accept coz they said the most is 4.5 nia cannot 5...
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Mind to share what sector are you in? 3k travel allowance is crazy man. No Co. will believe that if you base in office. Generally will think the 3k is the business travel claim then part of ur income. 2k+3k really doesn't make sense.

BTW wat post you interview in Sime Darby?
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post Oct 23 2009, 02:41 PM

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Very easy solution, earn less, then spend less. If earn less still spend more, then you looking for trouble.

In 2001, I earn only RM800 in Subang. But still able to save some money. It really depend how you budget you expense.
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post Oct 26 2009, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(HanMing1996 @ Oct 26 2009, 01:15 AM)
Job Title : Student
Job Desciption : Study
Years spent in company : Nil
Company : SMJK Jit Sin
Industry : Nil
Tenure : 5years
Employment Level : Form 1
Experience before joining : Nil
salary : RM0k
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You seem so desperate to post ur detail, even though not working nor having salary.

We will welcome you again once you start work & more mature.
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post Oct 28 2009, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 28 2009, 09:06 AM)
I teach piano from house to house.
It's tiring and time consuming.
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Teaching music won't really will be rich. Only if you are famous. Then can demand higher fees & alot of student.

Remember teaching music is mostly one on one. How many student you have in a day it count.

If average RM100 fees per student per month for 30 minute. 1 day average teach 6hours for 5 day.

6hours/0.5hr X RM100 X 5days = RM6000.

But you must have 60 student to make up the figure. Which quite few teacher have that much student.
Average teacher will only have 20-40 student at most.

If you teach house from house, the teaching time will be half.
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post Oct 28 2009, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 28 2009, 08:44 PM)
Teaching house to house will be included petrol charge according to students' house. But no doubt the time allocated for house-to-house teaching will be gone down to half. However, piano fee for classical music is standard, I'm doubt if there's any possibility to demand higher according to teachers' fame.

But yes, the higher qualification the teacher is, the higher fees he/she can demand. Just like normal Grade 8 teacher and Diploma holder teacher charge differently.

Music teacher teaches pop music, jazz music other than classical music, and pop/jazz music fees are double more expensive than classical music!
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Is it that teaching Pop/Jazz are more expensive? Didn't realise that.

I'm use to be a Classical Guitar teacher, pop are quite easy, & no need special skill & technique. So I charge same rate as Classical. Only thing trouble is Pop song available for guitar are limited, you need to arrange it for student.

Anyway teaching music not as that easy & can earn a lot, my friend full time teaching Violin in Yamaha, most student are beginning to Grade 3. Although the school assign all Violin student to him, but still only have 20+ student. Teach during Thursday to Sunday. So far the paid not >2k.
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post Oct 28 2009, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 28 2009, 10:23 PM)
Yes, pop and jazz music do charge at higher fees.

Classical music lessons need attention and more stressed cos parents expect their children take exam but somehow students are lazy, failed the exam and parents can push the blame on you.

I prefer teach pop music, less pressure and more pleasure cos most of the students are adults, easy to teach!  thumbup.gif
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Ha ha.. it seem we discuss in the wrong topic. Anyway is nice to meet people who know & teach music. You teach in music school or house to house?
Of course, teaching pop is quite relax, no technical stuff to teach. Some more in some level just teach them how to arrange song like organ/keyboard player do. Just learning accompany & chord is enough. But normally pop song student won't be long term as compare to exam base student. They can learn when ever their sweet time, but exam student sure will bind to you till the exam over. Of course, a bit stress, but sure you can know whether they can pass or not before the exam. So just honestly tell the parent the student situation & confidentiality level.

For me, Teaching music is just as a hobby, may be a sub-income. It never can replace my main profession (Accounts & Finance)
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 28 2009, 11:35 PM)
Yes, pop song students are not learning for long term but at least they take the initiative to look for pop music lessons and they practise as what instructed. Exam based students are normally taking classes just to fulfill parents' order.

I'ld rather go for pop music students anyway.
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ic ic, maybe piano are very popular which have alot of people want to learn, so you dun mind of losing student, & lot of nice pop song compare to Classical Guitar. And a lot of people have wrong impression between Classical & Acoustic Guitar. So I always emphasize to classical then pop in my teaching. Thus, Classical Guitar student will be not so popular, & most student are from 10-20 years old. Rarely have 5-10 years kids learning Guitar.
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post Oct 28 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 28 2009, 11:48 PM)
5-10 years old kids need special small guitar, which is more expensive.

Yes, i don't mind my adult students come and go. I enjoy having classes with students who have the heart to learn, than those who merely to fulfill parents' order but stick to me for long term.
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Smaller Guitar... u mean half size or 3/4 size. Not that expensive lah... RM150-400 can get it already not really expensive. But not much choice.
My 1st Guitar cost RM800, current Guitar cost me 2k plus with case.

Anyway, you are right, willing learning student are more enjoy to teach. You can teach anything & explain all thing they interested to learn. And the achievement of student is enjoyable. At least all your hard work are worth it.
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post Nov 2 2009, 10:06 PM

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I LOLed at this statement "You can easily earn 2-3k with your degree" . Stop being so proud about it smile.gif . Btw, I am just a 23 years old diploma(I grad when I was 21) holder where my post now needs you to have degree with more than 2 years experience smile.gif . "Without degree you will be forever stuck in 1-2k salary, unless you do sales/own a business. " this is another yawn.gif statement. smile.gif Degree nowadays is nothing (but for those who pursuing their studies for Degree or higher I would say go for it, it is a good advantage with it) , work hard and know your own strength then you will surely excel no matter in any fields you are in. Then only you can demand the figures needed. I do respect a lot of 'forum' mers here gaining more than 10k per month even without degree smile.gif
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As everyone working as employee know how important is your qualification. With a degree mean you are in par. Without it, the Co. won't even look at your resume. With a higher qualification mean you are in prestigious position then other staff. Without a degree, no matter how hard you work you will unable to reach manager level in normal Co. Unless you start your own Co. or its ur father Co.

Anyway, sad to tell, time had change, our dad or grandfather work hard & excel moment its a pass. When come to promotion, your qualification come first, then only your achievement. Some of my colleague work for 20years with SPM, still at the same post. Other with degree, just work for 4years already in manager level.

Welcome to a realistic world, little boy. Join it or leave it.

Unless you wanna be businessman, then that's another story. Or doing sales, which just need to good in talking & convince people.
But if you wanna compare to working in those peanut Co. then so sad your at that level only.

How many people without a proper education earning >10k. And how many suffer to survive. Try to do some statistic & some study.

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post Nov 11 2009, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Bluetrain @ Nov 9 2009, 07:56 PM)
Hi, I will be working in the city centre around Lot 10 area and the pay is $3600.  A friend told me it will not be enough to survive because car park, rental and everything else is expensive.  I have never work in KL before.  I am single so can someone please give me some advise on whether $3600 is really not enough?  Thanks very much.
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If RM3600 can't survive in KL, then those 2k plus staff might need to sleep across the street?

Salary RM3600 is more then enough to buy car & house with a average lifestyle. Anyway it really depend the lifestyle you living. If everyweek pub & clubbing, then you might having problem in your saving.

Average spending in KL will be

Food RM500
Rental RM400
Petrol RM300
Parking RM200
Car Loan RM600
Entertainment RM300
Internet & Mobile RM200

Total RM2500

So you still can save RM1100.
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post Nov 18 2009, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Nov 18 2009, 09:48 PM)
so many engineers , IT related people.

where are those account lawyer ???
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Accounts is here, r u calling me?

I think Accounts & legal field not as lucky as IT & engineer. Cause in these field base on your business experience, so the more experience you are, the more valuable you are. Not as IT & engineer which mostly depend on their technical knowledge & application which they learn in Uni.

So as starting salary for Accounts & Legal are quite low, the salary only start to pick up after 5-10 years experience. & the higher professional qualification the higher salary you can demand.
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post Nov 25 2009, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Nov 25 2009, 04:38 PM)
Age: -
Job Title : Sr Quantity Surveyor
Job Desciption : Overseas.Location : Manila, Philippines.  Managing contracts for Casino project
Years spent in company : 1 month ++  sweat.gif
Company : Top 5 company in M'sia
Industry : Construction
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Specialist
Experience before joining : Various construction companies 12 yrs)
Salary : Basics RM 5k + Allowance 2k + Free Hotel Accommodation + Free Transport + 4% of your housing loan paid + Many benefits + Claim + Free flight ticket.
Working Period : 5.5 days
Education Level: Master degree
Help, do you think i underpaid?  cry.gif
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I think will be average, seen most your living expenses had cover by the company.

Just your oversea allowance may be abit lower compare to most Co. offer.

Other then that, its good...
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(redghost @ Dec 14 2009, 10:36 AM)
Age: 29
Job Title : Civil & Structural engineer
Job Desciption : Senior Engineer (design and manage project)
Years spent in company : 7 years
Company : Local Palm Oil Industry
Industry : Consultant
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 1 year experience
Salary : Basic RM 3.88 k
Allowance : RM220
Working Period : 5 days
Education Level: Barchelor degree

Do i underpaid?  rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif
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If you really feel underpaid, then you won't stay in the same Co. for 7 years.

When I dissatisfy the job load with my paid & the benefit, then is time to get a new job.

Think again.
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post Jun 19 2010, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Jun 19 2010, 09:41 PM)
Its ok. Probably I'll ask for 4k... but I doubt my company is willing to give so much increment over my current pay... hmm let see how my HR going to offer me first...

Anyway, pay aside, need advice should I take up this role as team lead (probably with low pay) or move on to other companies (with better pay)?

Thanks.
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Normally, company will offer 20-30% increase of your current salary. Company will only offer more offer if you can justify the reason. Mind to tell Team Lead in what team/sector?
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post Dec 15 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(broken hearted @ Dec 15 2010, 03:10 PM)
i think only engineers get that high pay in OnG..i work for OnG also but in accounts field..terrible pay+ stuck in office.. cry.gif  cry.gif
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Mind to share your current paid & years of experience?

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