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conqu3ror
post Mar 1 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(august.decision @ Mar 1 2011, 02:21 PM)
i would like to say that i'm a good performer but the company hv no opportunity for me to perform...no chance to use my skills at all....no new thing to learn too....felt my knowledge and skill had degraded if compared to last time....

feel so bad....i asked my previous manager...am i performing good at work?
he said i'm a good performer...very responsible....overall performing very good...but y the salary so low? it is the company not paying me enough?

the only good thing is low work load....can go back home every day on time...want to work overtime also nothing to do....umm....this is good or no good? hmm.gif

the company also quite near to my home...5 minutes journey to work....

should i stay or find another job?
due to i need to take care of my child too...so work near my home is more preferable....this make me headache...

but when look at my underpaid salary..make me feel sad  cry.gif
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Sorry to said that your department consider as cost center, so they treat as non value added.

Is up to you to decide whether to stay on or jump to other Co. or other field to gain more exposure & higher salary.
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post Mar 1 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 1 2011, 03:40 PM)
Sorry to said that your department consider as cost center, so they treat as non value added.

Is up to you to decide whether to stay on or jump to other Co. or other field to gain more exposure & higher salary.
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may i know is my salary still in the range of the QA department or underpaid if compare with the same department in others company?
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post Mar 1 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(august.decision @ Mar 1 2011, 04:16 PM)
may i know is my salary still in the range of the QA department or underpaid if compare with the same department in others company?
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In Seremban, I could said its quite high, those comment mostly are from KL or PJ area, so as the cost of living.

And they is never have direct comparison. BTW I didn't work in QA.
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post Mar 1 2011, 04:58 PM

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Job Title : System Engineer
Job Desciption : Manage Servers and Database
Years spent in company : 1.5 month
Industry : IT (System & Database)
Tenure : Probation
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : 1 year
Salary : RM 2700
Benefits : 10% of salary for petrol
Location: KL
Education Level: Degree in Information Systems Engineering

can i ask for increment till 3k when i confirm?

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post Mar 1 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(kentLKW @ Mar 1 2011, 04:58 PM)
Age : 25
Job Title : System Engineer
Job Desciption : Manage Servers and Database
Years spent in company : 1.5 month
Industry : IT (System & Database)
Tenure : Probation
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : 1 year
Salary : RM 2700
Benefits : 10% of salary for petrol
Location: KL
Education Level: Degree in Information Systems Engineering

can i ask for increment till 3k when i confirm?
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do they practice 10% of salary for petrol across the board for everyone? hmm.gif
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post Mar 1 2011, 05:04 PM

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@august.decision
LOL ! then I blame you for getting a low salary. The company has no chance for you to perform or you didnt ask for the chance? It is different.

If u have tried and u didnt obtain it, then go somewhere else. But from what you mentioned, it seems that you didnt show initiative to shine.

The fact that you complained you have very light workload also is another problem. Ever heard of high pay and easy job?
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do they practice 10% of salary for petrol across the board for everyone?  hmm.gif
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mostly yes for Engineer

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post Mar 1 2011, 05:17 PM

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post Mar 1 2011, 05:21 PM

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August.decision,

i'd say ur salary is high...compared to my company that is
my QAQC dept, i think 2.5k only..
plus, u r in seremban

it's a pretty good pay i'd say
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post Mar 1 2011, 05:25 PM

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post Mar 1 2011, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(august.decision @ Mar 1 2011, 05:25 PM)
the salary is ok with my almost 8 years of working experience?
may i know where is ur company located? kl or seremban?
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if you stay in one company and no promotion of your position, the salary increase tend to be rather slow.
a lot of times, the seniors felt frustrated when the newly hired are getting equivalent or only slightly lower than what they are getting.

i am not sure about the situation in Seremban but the fresh graduates i hire are all getting a salary close to RM3k these days. (youngest 1989)
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post Mar 1 2011, 05:36 PM

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my company kl...
i know some company offering 1.8k for an engineer in seremban...
so for 2.95k, i'd say it's pretty good...
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post Mar 1 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Mar 1 2011, 05:34 PM)
if you stay in one company and no promotion of your position, the salary increase tend to be rather slow.
a lot of times, the seniors felt frustrated when the newly hired are getting equivalent or only slightly lower than what they are getting.

i am not sure about the situation in Seremban but the fresh graduates i hire are all getting a salary close to RM3k these days. (youngest 1989)
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do you need mechanical engineers?
lol!
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post Mar 1 2011, 06:14 PM

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@august.decision
Often in life we could easily put the blame on someone else. Food for your thought.

U want something, go get it. Be the change instead of waiting for others to change.

BTW, I find it difficult to accept that your company does not have any chance for you to shine. This is total crap in my opinion. Ppl that shine are those that do more than is required, obtain knowledge before hand and not when needed.

My uncle started of as a QA exec like you did. His working hours stop at 6pm because thats when everyone goes home. HOWEVER, he stayed back, learn the process and enhanced his knowledge. DO TAKE NOTE that all of this was done out of his OWN WILLINGNESS. This went on for 1 year and average time he stayed after working hours is 4 hours.

He then moved on to work in singapore with a raise of 200% (figures, not only exchange rate, which means he got 400% more after conversion) after working for 3 years. Now, he's based in China as a QA Director after working for slightly more than 9 years making SGD20k.

You decide what you are. No excuses. Your company sucks then move out. Staying in your confort zone, then thats your problem.
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@august.decision
Often in life we could easily put the blame on someone else. Food for your thought.

U want something, go get it. Be the change instead of waiting for others to change.

BTW, I find it difficult to accept that your company does not have any chance for you to shine. This is total crap in my opinion. Ppl that shine are those that do more than is required, obtain knowledge before hand and not when needed.

My uncle started of as a QA exec like you did. His working hours stop at 6pm because thats when everyone goes home. HOWEVER, he stayed back, learn the process and enhanced his knowledge. DO TAKE NOTE that all of this was done out of his OWN WILLINGNESS. This went on for 1 year and average time he stayed after working hours is 4 hours.

He then moved on to work in singapore with a raise of 200% (figures, not only exchange rate, which means he got 400% more after conversion) after working for 3 years. Now, he's based in China as a QA Director after working for slightly more than 9 years making SGD20k.

You decide what you are. No excuses. Your company sucks then move out. Staying in your confort zone, then thats your problem.
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totally agree with you..you just have to give in some effort to obtain what u want!
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post Mar 2 2011, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(august.decision @ Mar 2 2011, 10:03 AM)
hi...

i didn't blame anyone....is only myself willing to change the working environment by changing the job or not....out of my comfort zone is easy if i'm single....now as a mother....need to consider my children and family too...so hard to make decision between career and family....

in ur opinion that u cannot accept a company that does not have any chance to shine?
this u need to wait till u found a company that put 1st priorty to seniority but not performance...u will find that althought ur qualification, knowledge and experiance in the field is more than ur manager...however...if u r not working in the company long enough than ur manager....although the total working experiance in the working field is the same...u will only to be hired to assist ur manager....u will never be promoted beyond ur manager position...felt like being used by the company....

lastly...it is all depend on me and myself to change or not....
that y i need to know that the salary that i receive every month/year is still worth that i continue to stay there and enjoy the so-called comfort zone....or go out and explore the new world...not to mention....my whole family need to receive the good or bad impact from the decision i made...so that y i need to evaluate my condition now....it is a matter of worth or not?
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somehow i think you already managed to get a grip of the situation yourself.

Don't wait for others to tell you what to do, from your explanation its already obvious that what must be done.

Between family and career, well that is entirely up to you.

No one here is suppose to tell you which to choose.

To me its not a matter of choosing, its a matter of adapting to the environment.
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post Mar 2 2011, 10:27 AM

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post Mar 2 2011, 11:03 AM

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Job Title : QC Manager
Time spent in company : 9 years
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM 5k
Benefits : Stock options 11 lots per year (normally we get a profit of around RM 7-9 per lot)
Education Level: Degree in Science (Lean 6 Sigma Green Belt holder)

Been working in the same company since I graduated, joined as a supervisor, made my way up to Manager level as the most tempting perk is the stock options.
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post Mar 2 2011, 11:12 AM

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Age : 33
Job Title : QC Manager
Time spent in company : 9 years
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM 5k
Benefits : Stock options 11 lots per year (normally we get a profit of around RM 7-9 per lot)
Education Level: Degree in Science (Lean 6 Sigma Green Belt holder)

Been working in the same company since I graduated, joined as a supervisor, made my way up to Manager level as the most tempting perk is the stock options.
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hi...

u r from supervisor to manager? so what ur previous executive and manager be? higher position or leave the company already so that u have the opportunity to be in their position?

This post has been edited by august.decision: Mar 2 2011, 11:28 AM

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