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This post has been edited by AMDAthlon: Aug 6 2010, 03:45 PM

Halooo....
new thread r
ok, have one question, how far 5850 can go with stock volt?
currently mine is 880Mhz/1175Mhz (used CCC auotoclock )
max temp on furmark is 77 deg at 30% fan speed..
is it suite for 24/7?

woh....dura ace ur 5850 reference cooler?

mine max load at 82c lol

yup!but quite noisy lor
if change to 50% can get 60++, but can hear the fan even im in the toilet

sapphire? mind to share wat kind of casing u using ma?

i get a 82c -.-

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Added on July 12, 2010, 3:16 pmgot 87c with furmark extreme -.-

This post has been edited by kahjye: Jul 12 2010, 03:16 PM

msi
im used no case la bro

AMDAthlon, I think add 1 more link.
This, http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=322616
It's a Modified ATi Catalyst Build Section from Guru3D Forum. It's damn good I would say! Extra performance!

do you guy thnk that feature Idle Play working correctly? i feel my certain game are very slow monitor with FRAPS wonder that feature is not boosting Mhz when loading my SF4 ...

Wow, Nvidia really pushed out a nice card in the form the GTX460 (GF104). Looks like Nvidia finally got a good grip on the technical issues plaguing the GF100. At RM 699 for the cheaper one, maybe we would see a price drop of more than RM 100 on ATI's gaming-class cards.

Yes. There will be a price drop of all GPU sooner or later.
Geforce GTX460 have the performance of Radeon HD5830 - Radeon HD5850 but with extreme cheap price tag.
Most reviews show that Geforce GTX460 is weaker on 2560x1440/2560x1600 resolution compared to Radeon HD5830 and Radeon HD5850. However, I don't think there's a lot of people with such big resolution yet.

mines running at 900/1200 at 1100 voltage

any news on price slash for HD5850 ?

We could get it cheaper it seems <700 from sellers in the forum. Check this out. The 768MB version when oced could perform on par with stock HD 5850 at 1920 x 1080 reso.

Nvidia really hit the sweet spot this time. A drop in HD 5850 price would do nicely.

finally after 10 months+ radeon hd 5000 price war is coming from july to sept

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Added on July 13, 2010, 1:25 amgtx 460 768 mb oced = 5850 is too much stress at stock it beaTS 5830

gtx 460 1gb at stock beats gtx 465 which makes gtx 465 obsolete

gtx 460 1 gb oced beats or equalizes with stock gtx 470 which is good for every games including crysis except metro 2033

This post has been edited by Riddhy: Jul 13 2010, 01:25 AM

Geforce GTX460 equal to Radeon HD5830-Radeon HD5850 when comes to lower resolution gaming or some FULL HD gaming. However, it loses to Radeon HD5830-Radeon HD5850 when the resolution is more than FULL HD(like 2560x1440).

Not true. Geforce GTX470 pawns Geforce GTX460(OC) for sure. Because Geforce GTX470 is stronger than Radeon HD5850 already.

who plays games at 2500 here anyway oviously they will do tri sli 480 for that nobody games at 2500 using a single 5850

i am presenting my findings from anandtech guru3d and techpowerup also as this a new gc driver support will improv

thinking of selling mine, just PM me if you're interested..

well pm me if 5770+ top up

5770 got friend to fight now

hope price will go down asap hehe

gtx460 is fighting with HD5830 and gtx460 wins in almost all games. Im seeing AMD will drop the price of 5830 and 5850 .... good news to us, price wars

really? i tot gtx460 is mid level card?

It depend how you perceive it, if you are not very demanding on performance or from a casual gamer point of view,its actually can consider to be a "standard mid range" but if you are high end player and have high expecatation... GTX 460 consider just enough to use...

For a poor guy, this indeed is better than nothing at all... you see....

not sure how good is gtx460 for OC, but my previous 5830 (sapphire non reference) OC'ed scored 14323 GPU score

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforc...rmi,2684-7.html

Haha, I already forgot about this 'price war' thingy that used to be prominent in the GC market!
Been awhile now ATi cards pwned, now we should see some price cut for sure in these coming months...

ya, macam mau perang harge lagi je nie

yay this one i like!! 5850 price will come down! and now im confuse whether to buy 5850 or gtx 460

IF 5850 come down to 239 I will buy 5850 ..... else I will buy 460 1GB

you mean RM 239???

i guess he means USD..
5850 still pawns GTX460

we want price cut only!! gtx460 pwns 5830 or whatever not so important bcoz nvidia so damn noob took so long time to kill ati's card. so disappointing!!

once the price moves, you can offer me your 5870

time for ati to drop 5850 price..im not paying RM900++ for it now..dont dissapoint me ati i have been waiting this for a long time already..if not im off to nvidia

yea..agreess..
i'm sure price drop will come soon..hmm..sell off my 5770 n get 5850

ok come, i sell you mine for 899

price slashed on hd5850??

how much it'll drop to??

Not sure on that, but ATI definitely have to drop their prices for the 5850 and especially the affected 5830

hehe..89.99 can leh

800 bucks for 5850..will be very very sweet for me..time to retire 3870 for good

RM800 for HD5850 I also sapu adi haha

so,is the hd5830 is worth buying?

as i dun think i'm can afford hd5850 even if the price is slashed

If u are gunning for the HD5830, might as well u go for the GTX460 1GB

why oh why?

noob on nvidia gc here

how is the performance compare to hd5770?

meanwhile,dun worry,i'll google it

Try hitting this page for links on the GTX460 reviews: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=19014

i'll be waiting hopefully 800 bucks for 5850..if not use on board haha

5830 big dissapointment leh..price too near 5850 but performance abit far too

Yes I am also waiting for 5850 to touch the RM800 line...
Long waited with my onboard 785g for it...





Luckily did not buy it @ RM950... or 5770 that time...

This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Jul 13 2010, 04:52 PM

recently just bought myself a hd5770

Enjoy price drop straight.
I think we'll get to see all GPUs(Nvidia and ATi) to drop their prices especially those who're near to Radeon HD5830 and HD5850.

thanks for the link

any idea 5870 will b how much if price drop?
or just little increment decrease

Arrgghhhhhhhh!!!

this has been happen to me not just one time liao

memang tak puas hati

hahahahaha no sweat bro...
dulu aku beli Palit 4870 Sonic Dual fan 512mb RM890....
last2 bile jual laku RM330 jer...mmg sampai skrg aku trauma lagi...huhuhuhuhu
mmg sadis habis...

wow,GTX 460 definitely pwn HD5770!!

sell my hd5770 while its worth??

Anandtech reviews, GTX460 is damn close to the 5850
Just lose out more in 2560x1600 resolutions, lower than that, it is very close

ATi definitely will take action to against GTX460. While nVidia mean GTX460 is to compete 5830, ATi will change ur mind to: 5850 is to compete GTX460. hohoho... (let no one card(nvidia) survive on market field = Earn & Win)

too late bro.. bcoz ppl know about 460 already and they will just wait

I'd love to see that. Unless ATI has been building up a large cache of cards, I think ATI would show some restraint in the new prices. While ATI has already been making money on the Cypress for about three quarters now and should have the reserves to fight price war, the GF104 is actually smaller than the Cypress. Nvidia's manufacturing cost should be lower than ATI's by a few percentages.

This post has been edited by everling: Jul 13 2010, 06:53 PM

yup,the ati has been doing much profit in the time..now only nvidia come..if they(ATI) Drop the price a bit,its still can be sell more than GTX4xx..hehe..

arrgghhhhhhhh,NO!!!!

gonna find someone else to cheat liao....hehehe

i just dunno how much is the new price for hd5850 nia

sked later no money

venz, people keep telling buy the 460 and yet u still buy the 5770. now lose money la

I want to ask where got sell Palit Geforce GTX470(LOL, in ATi/AMD Thread)? Cycom got no stock until next Wednesday. Sad. Sad.
Since Cycom can offer RM 1128 for Palit Geforce GTX470, I guess Palit Geforce GTX460 will be around RM 690(or something like that)?

i bought the hd5770 2 weeks ago...

and no,nobody ask me to buy the gtx460 that time

gtx460,how much?

gtx460 768MB about RM690-700
gtx460 1GB about RM780-800

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Jul 13 2010, 10:59 PM

wow!nice price!!!

shit!regret buying hd5770 liao,haiz...

This post has been edited by V3nz: Jul 13 2010, 11:44 PM

want to ask,

is HD5770 price gonna be down also?

thinking of buying another to CFX liao

worth it or not?

I don't think anybody knew of what the GTX460 would be like two weeks ago. First posts about it that I noticed was on the 10th, and the news embargo was only lifted on the 12th. If I were in your shoes, I probably would have bout a HD 5770 also.

I wouldn't bother to CF the cards. You're getting acceptable performance right now, aren't you? Also, there is the HD 6000 series coming out later this year. Maybe three more months or less if we're lucky. I've no clue on what is the expected delivery date of the HD 6000 series.

i just dun feel satisfy if there is a card with the same price can pwn mine

i know AMD got many product lining up

confirm HD6000 series gonna come out this year?

hope its gud though

hope AMD do some nice jobs once more


6k series hope
performance like 5870
but power consumption like 4670

save money and no need upgrade PSU

GTX460 really caught us surprised to to Fermi's reputation for power,heat and noise.Besides,your HD5770 is still fast isn't it?Keep it for now adn see how the landscape changes these few months first
if that's the case then it would truly be a godsend

the gtx460 is definitely better than the 5770 ,5830 and even 5850 on some levels. wow i really intended to purchase the 5770 around this week.
since the 460 ill change my plans for it.



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ok last price RM850, but need to wait till i'm done getting my new card.. how how?? (poison)

AMD will drops 5770, 5830 after mass availability of 460. By the way, 460 lack of any triple monitors setup, do consider the 1GB version than 768MB. Isn't 5770 only at 575myr?

You could even get 5770 at less than 560 bucks already.

Gtx 460's pricing offers more performance than 5770/ 5830 based on reviews.

I'm holding back my previous statement that 5850 may drop. Don't think so I guess. It could be the 5770/ 5830 price may drop. We shall see in the next few months.

I just notice that SAPPHIRE HD5770 1GB D5 is RM550 from compu-zone.com

But SAPPHIRE HD5830 1GB D5 256BIT is RM865

I don't think any threat from 460 until it mass availability, by then, HD5830 may be around RM700, the price level that I hope for.

And this is and Radeon thread, lolz

This post has been edited by mitodna: Jul 14 2010, 09:44 AM

Anyway I will save RM800 for a card. It would takes 1-2 months so I still got some time to see how the market goes.

but i guess as usual, the first 2 months when it enters Malaysian market, the price will be high.. so dont take that USD price for granted lol

I hope AMD develop their physics and GPGPU applications to a better support, not just for gaming. Not everytime I play game.

That's why I choose green-force for now.

5850 price has to drop to its original MSRP, an overclocked GTX 460 is breathing down on it too close for comfort.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33965855

so no price drop..big booooo!!!!

Hmmm the retail HD5770 is rm 500~590 why compare it with Rm700~Rm800 product? I'm confuse.... haiz... something is wrong here....

no, 460 comparing with the 5830.

It seems most recent 5770 owners having a dilemma when the GTX460 came in sneaking out of nowhere!
I know you feel compelled to CF'ed the 5770 out of disappointment, but chill out a bit, no need to go that far ATM...


Anyways congrats to Nvidia because this is actually the first 'real' attack that do have a considerable impact to the Red Camp...the GTX 460...

The only contender I could of that could rival the GTX460 is a 'priced-dropped' HD5830, but I they (ATI) have to revised the whole architecture of the PCB (currently using 5870 PCB) and circuitry to cut cost so it's possible to reduce the price,
but regardless of that, the 5830 should or MUST have reduce the price long ago, this is true even before the launch of GTX460...

Well good thing there's isn't much 5830 owners (or are there? ) to fill disappointed getting that card anyways, but it's ATI's fault in the first place for leaving a big gap between 5770 and 5850 to be exploited by Nvidia, (the 5830 wasn't a good enough excuse to fill that GAP)
the GTX460 move was smooth as silk, (it was too easy anyways, the gap was huge and exploitable) ...a complement to Nvidia for now...

.....ATi will change ur mind to: 5850 is to compete GTX460......

ATi CAN do that, but Nvidia's GTX460 will leech on the 5830 soo closely & tightly that this move from ATi will not suffice much benefit for them....

So in the end, the 5830 is just plain hopeless, and borderline useless...UNLESS price drop!!! (I suggest RM675~ish)

5830 is a fail product from the beginning.
it's a cripple cypress.
the real existence of 5830 is to increase cypress yield.
if u recall, a while bck, TSMC has problem wit low 40nm yield percentage.
5830 is created to not waste too much cypress chip.

i cant wait to see how accurate is the prediction about GTX460 in Malaysia market.. hehe

North America already have action about 5830. From USD239 drop to USD199. China from 1799元 drop to 1499元. Too bad no action for 5850 yet.
The pic is Euro price

nice infos..hope not just for 5850,5870 as well..

40 doolars drop means around RM120-150 drop. marilah tengok berapa lolyat plaza akan kurang. i smell crossfire soon

overall aside from the price, 5850 is still better thn gtx 460 ryte?

The 5830 price drop should be common sense if ATi wants to deal with the GTX460.

But price drop for the 5850 is a different story...ever since I bought my HD5850 in Nov 2009 for around RM950, I got the feeling that for it's performance - the price is somehow right and justified, esp if compared to it's Nvidia competitor the GTX285, which is way more expensive...(BTW, the 5850 is already considered 'bang~for-bucks', so should make sense the price wouldn't be lowered...)

So my point is, the 5850 will/might stay the same price because the price range for the 5850 is suitable for it at the moment...UNTIL the 6 Series comes out to play early next year or end of this year....OR price drop for GTX470!

if higher than 1920x1080, 5850 has the advantage
lower than that, the gtx460 is close behind (not if its overclocked)

but thn if 5850 OC oso can surely beat 460 even if its OC ryte?

5850 oc sure can beat gtx 460 anytime.

However do consider this, you have a cheaper alternative by say, 200+ bucks and if oced its performance is similar to hd 5850. Now that's worth it for those who don't mind slightly slower performance and want to spend their 200 bucks elsewhere.

no i mean 5850 OC vs 460 OC

i play games on 1920x1200 so i should stick with 5850

If the 5850 price goes lower,i'll buy.

"Ati pawn you all!" (fanboy statement)



on 2nd thought,its good to have competition at least.
Benefit all the consumers.

This post has been edited by Turnip: Jul 16 2010, 08:32 AM

Galaxy GeForce GTX 460 Super OC 1GB

This GC, priced only at RM775, OWNED the stock 5850!
I've check most benchmarks such as on Tweaktown, Tom's HW, etc. and this GC is either equal or a tad bit faster than the 5850 default clocks...

What does this means?
I will reconsider what I said before about the 5850 would not have a price drop because it desperately needs it to counter these premium OC'ed GTX460's...

Of course a 900mhz/1200 @ 1.15v OC'ed HD5850 can beat the OC'ed GTX460 without the slightest of a doubt, but the GTX460 already proves that it has thread into the 5850's (stock) territory...while being approx. RM200 cheaper!


Oh about the hopelessly and almost non-contributory 5830, that cards needs to drop the price waay lower, almost close to the current 5770 price while the 'bang~for~the~bucks' 5850 indeed needs to drop the price a bit, (and don't forget price drop for the 5770 as well, Cross-Fire!!!!!)
With these three cards having a drop in their price, ATi will for sure counter big time any Nvidia's ploy to win over the GC market...


haha, I miss this price war...consumers are smiling again after more than half a year of Red domination...