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post Jul 14 2010, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Jul 14 2010, 09:26 AM)
You could even get 5770 at less than 560 bucks already.  brows.gif

Gtx 460's pricing offers more performance than 5770/ 5830 based on reviews.  flex.gif

I'm holding back my previous statement that 5850 may drop. Don't think so I guess. It could be the 5770/ 5830 price may drop.  hmm.gif  We shall see in the next few months.
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5850 price has to drop to its original MSRP, an overclocked GTX 460 is breathing down on it too close for comfort.
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post Aug 5 2010, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(faiz2036 @ Aug 5 2010, 12:01 PM)
i recommended to you to go for references card design for easy future overclocking..
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Asus and MSI non-reference boards also have good OC capabilities due to SmartDoctor and Afterburner software support. Not sure whether the custom cooler for the 5850 DirectCU is good enough though as HardOCP found it inadequate for the 5830 version.

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post Aug 10 2010, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 9 2010, 11:06 PM)
Basically V-Sync is a configuration to synchronize your monitor's max refresh rate, generally 60 refresh rate WITH 60 frame rates/sec, this harmony will nullify the screen tearing.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Practically, if you have high-end GC, most games will spike the FPS waaay above 60fps, which is unnecessary because the common LCD monitor can't refresh the frames above 60 anyways...plus no need to burden the GC with unnecessary excess fps (those extra fps above 60fps mark)..
Although this statement is debatable, in the long run V-sync should saves your gc from excess heat, electricity and life longevity.. but of course depends on the excess fps, like for example, above 100fps+.
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You also need to factor in things like v-sync when the fps is less than your monitor's refresh rate, the framerate will be capped like this:

60fps
30
15
7.5
etc

Triple buffering is the option to go for whenever possible.
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post Aug 23 2010, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 23 2010, 09:23 AM)
driver prob is normal ler..
how come can expect running fine where newer game came after the released gpu..
sure some of them need to be patched, game also got bugs..
just give them sometimes..

other pc parts also will cause a prob..
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No offence here but I didn't get any issues caused by the driver for my old 8800GT. Everything after catalyst 10.4 breaks or slows down a game I play on my 5870 though. Seriously, if ATI can squeeze out performance drivers in 10.3 and 10.4, how could they screw the pooch and let Nvidia catch up with inefficient hardware anyway?

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post Aug 23 2010, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 23 2010, 01:05 PM)
all games like that? just use the driver which optimize ur setup.. what's the big deal..
latest driver is not necessary..
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Which is why I stayed put on 10.4 as it's the last known driver that doesn't have issues whatsoever. I duno, maybe I think 2 years of using the 8800GT has kinda raised the bar in expectations for game performance in drivers.
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post Aug 26 2010, 02:10 PM

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The game. The train level was the laggiest ingame.
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post Aug 26 2010, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Aug 26 2010, 02:20 PM)
really sakit hati 2c tat on display....menrencatkan permandangan... vmad.gif
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But that level is beautiful...

Then again, my old 8800GT @ 1280*1024 had to knock down some settings from gamer to mainstream for that level.

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post Sep 17 2010, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Turnip @ Sep 17 2010, 09:15 AM)
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I'm curious to see what major performance boosts they managed with the card. The 800 shader 5770 and 1120 shader 5830 is well and truly beaten out by the GTX 460 right now.
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post Sep 17 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Sep 17 2010, 01:50 PM)
10.4 ccc, fan speed 20-22% 39-41 temp

10.9 ccc fan speed 20-22% 50-51 temp..    doh.gif
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Did you check the idle clockspeeds?
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post Oct 6 2010, 12:15 PM

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VR-Zone reports that yield issues are still present in the 6xxx series.
-68xx now launched first in November
-partners haven't got cards yet (they're not told prices either)

Bad news for us all.
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post Oct 13 2010, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Oct 13 2010, 10:24 AM)
I would say it's not GPU problem but the game itself is not being optimized nicely.

The stupid Depth of Field(blur far objects) that Metro2033 offered is lame, those are not realistic at all.
Those Depth of Field is only real if your eyes are camera because those are camera effects.
Human Real Eyes don't have DoF(blur far objects), but the farer the objects, the less details and duller color they become only. NOT BLUR.  doh.gif 
This kind of effect can be seen in game like BFBC2 and DiRT 2.
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Advanced depth of field requires 2* the graphics horsepower as it generates two frames and then splices them together, from what I know. Anyways I just leave it off, the rest work fine and you won't miss much.
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post Oct 21 2010, 11:54 AM

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HardOCP is reporting pricedrops to GTX470 and GTX460 coming soon. If anything, Radeon 68xx cards sure make things good for the customer, right?
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post Oct 21 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Oct 21 2010, 12:35 PM)
If these GeForce GTX460 drop even more, I think those Mid-End GPUs will be freaking cheap until those HTPC(Low-End) GPUs will be pointless to be produced anymore. LOL.

I don't really care about the price drop for GeForce GTX470 since it's a worthless GPU to begin with.
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Low end GPUs are already being phased out. Nvidia's lowest end Fermi is a 96 shader chip, for example.

Anyway HardOCP says the big drop will be the GTX470. Given the leaked performance of the 6870 puts it a whisker over the 5850, I think Nvidia will drop the price to similar levels (RM800?). Probably to clear stock and shift the other chips for Quadro/Tesla use. After all, they could in theory offer a full GF104 at ~800MHz to fight the 6870.

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post Oct 22 2010, 09:35 AM

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http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1555744

Guru3D's review was leaked.

pros:
6850>GTX 460 1GB (stock clockspeeds, not sure oc vs oc results)
6870 slightly beats GTX 470
Juniper-like power requirements for 6850, similar to gtx460 for 6870
new AA mode to be introduced in catalyst 10.12
6850 overclocks to 950MHz

cons:
3d gaming sucks, need third party software
6870 overclocking sucks (~950MHz oc too)


Also, Nvidia has a GTX 580 under wraps
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036322167&postcount=197

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post Oct 22 2010, 10:00 AM

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Could be a bad chip. But then again considering their 6850 also hit similar max clockspeeds I'd guess the chip being maxed out is more likely.
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post Oct 22 2010, 01:04 PM

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6870 is a beefed up optimized 5770 that is designed to be cheaper than GTX 460 to make and yet performs faster.

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