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post Nov 17 2007, 02:33 PM, updated 19y ago

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Importing A Vehicle To Malaysia

Unfortunately this is going to be a hassle. It is perhaps the best idea to just put your car into storage or in the care of a friend while you are in Malaysia. However if you really have to bring your car the following will be helpful.

The imposition of very high import duties make owning a non Malaysian made car somewhat expensive. Import duties run to as high as 300%. Consequently the vast majority of cars in Malaysia are locally produced ones. Cost of maintenance and parts for foreign cars are also factors to be considered. Needless to say if your car is rare or indeed not available in Malaysia these factors become paramount.

Shipping charges, documentation and bureaucracy may also cause you problems, although hiring a shipping agent will alleviate most of the stress involved, charges will of course be imposed.

To import your car, you must apply for an Approval Permit (AP) from the Ministry of International Trade and Industry (MITI).

In order to apply for this permit your car must be registered under your name for at least 3 years. The following documentation must then be presented and processed:

1. A letter of application addressed to the Ministry Of International Trade and Industry (MITI) for the importing of a car from your home country to Malaysia for personal use.
2. A JK69 form must be purchased MITI and duly completed.
3. Documentation indicating proof of ownership. Typically this will be a purchase receipt or transfer of ownership/letter from the previous owner if the car was purchased second-hand.
4. The original and photocopied registration.
5. The cars original insurance documents and/or a letter from the insurance company.
6. Your work permit and letter of contract from your employer in Malaysia.
7. A photocopy of your passport.

All these documents must be presented to the officer in charge at the MITI offices, who will also conduct a short interview. Processing of your application typically takes seven working days, if all goes well you will be issued an Approval Permit allowing you to import your car. The permit is valid for only 3 months, if you do not import your car by then, you will have to go through the entire process all over again.

Upon the arrival of your car, you are required to collect it yourself from the port and then you will need to apply for a permit from the Malaysian Road Transport Department or "Jabatan Pengangkutan Jalan", this entails more registration paperwork which of course will include your proof of ownership and registration documents, a car inspection and the payment of the import duties.

(Source: Royal Malaysian Custom - Import of Personal Vehicle)

Import Duty For CBU Vehicles (%)

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3rd Image Table Contributed by BeastX (LYN)

Purchase price of the vehicle can be taken into account in the calculation of the Customs Value and this is only an estimation of the calculations of Customs Duties. However, Royal Malaysian Customs has docket price of the particular vehicle to determine the calculation of the exact Customs Value. The calculation of Customs Duties also depends on the original registration date (birth date), engine capacity, date of import and model of the vehicle.



Simple Question & Answer

Question:
I work / study at overseas and already purchased a car and intended to bring the car into Malaysia. Can I know the procedure?

Answer:
Malaysia citizen who work or study at overseas can import a vehicle for personal use subject to the approval permit given by Ministry of International Trade and Industry. To get the approval applicant have to purchase and fill the JK69 Form. JK69 is a gazetted Custom Form. The form comes with three carbonised copies. Therefore, it cannot be downloaded from the website. Once endorsed by MITI, the form becomes an Approved Permit (AP). JK69 can be purchased at:

Percetakan Nasional Malaysia Berhad
Jalan Chan Sow Lin
50554 Kuala Lumpur
Tel : 03-92212022
Fax : 03-92220690

Person that is eligible to bring in personal vehicle are as follows:
i. Malaysians studying overseas (at least diploma level) for more than a year and returning home permanently. Accompanying spouse is not eligible.
ii. Malaysians working legally on a permanent post overseas (at least a year) and returning home permanently. Accompanying spouse is not eligible.
iii. Government officials posted overseas for more than a year. Accompanying spouse is eligible for one AP.

(For more information on (i), (ii) and (iii), please go to APPLICATION PROCEDURE AND WORK PROCESS. Refer to DOCUMENT 11: Guidelines to Apply for Import License For Personal Motor Vehicles Of Malaysian Citizens Working Or Studying Overseas)

iv. Expatriates with valid working pass/permit. The importation of the personal vehicle is subject to re-export condition upon termination of work employment in Malaysia.
v. Participants of Malaysia My Second Home Programme (MM2H). (For detail, please go to http://mm2h.motour.gov.my)
vi. Malaysians specialists returning home under the Ministry of Human Resource program. (For detail, please go to Laman Web Rasmi Kementerian Sumber Manusia - Home)


A complete application has to be submitted manually to any of the following offices:

i. Trade Services Division
Ministry of International Trade and Industry
2nd Floor, Block 10 Government Offices Complex
50622 Jalan Duta
Kuala Lumpur
Tel : 603-62034819
Fax: 603-62013012

ii. MITI Cawangan Sabah
Tingkat 3, blok D&E
Bangunan KWSP
49,Jalan Karamunsing
88622 Kota Kinabalu
Sabah
Tel: 088-239061
Fax : 088-235645

iii. MITI Cawangan Sarawak
Tingkat 3, Bangunan Bank Negara
93400 Kuching Sarawak
Tel : 082-257164
Fax : 082-417835

After getting the permit (AP), the vehicle can be imported into Malaysia and must be declared to the Royal Malaysian Customs at the customs station/ office at the place of import using the Customs Form No. 1 which can be obtained or purchased at:

Percetakan Nasional Malaysia Berhad
Jalan Chan Sow Lin
50554 Kuala Lumpur
Tel : 03-92212022
Fax : 03-92220690

The form comes with four carbonised copies. Therefore, it cannot be downloaded from the website.


Ordinary people did not know that every Malaysian citizen is entitled to one AP in a lifetime. Link to news via MalaysiaKini.Com: Rafidah directed to address AP issue in Parliament

I have posted this in Zerotohundred.Com also. Please add if anyone have additional information.

Original: http://www.malaysia.alloexpat.com/malaysia...to_malaysia.php

Thanks,


SakuraGuy
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post Nov 17 2007, 03:11 PM

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i am always thought of importing cars from japan back to malaysia. now i had to think it over and over again before send back to malaysia.
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post Nov 17 2007, 03:18 PM

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Reported~!

no la, i juz tell mod to pin. XD lelax lar.
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post Nov 17 2007, 03:19 PM

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this is one usefull info. i hope mr mod can pin it
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post Nov 17 2007, 03:20 PM

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x200 duty for a car
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post Nov 17 2007, 03:26 PM

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WTF! I'll never want to import a car. thought of bringing a Buggatti Veyron
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QUOTE(don^don @ Nov 17 2007, 03:18 PM)
Reported~!

no la, i juz tell mod to pin. XD lelax lar.
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Added on November 17, 2007, 4:17 pmThe price conversion was based on RM4.5562 however, as of today November 2007, the rate is RM4.9527 per EURO1.00.

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post Nov 17 2007, 06:24 PM

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Hmmm...I don't see any approved permits required.
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QUOTE(blademaster @ Nov 17 2007, 03:26 PM)
WTF! I'll never want to import a car. thought of bringing a Buggatti Veyron
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QUOTE(APIITian @ Nov 17 2007, 06:24 PM)
Hmmm...I don't see any approved permits required.
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post Nov 17 2007, 08:00 PM

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the tax impose on imported cars is just crazy. Bottom line is, unless you are super rich then justsatisfied with whatever car available in Malaysia.
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post Nov 17 2007, 09:00 PM

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WOW....geng goood and nice information
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post Nov 17 2007, 11:15 PM

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Outdated info...

latest revision as I know of... (posting 3rd time.....)
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the max they can charge u now is 165%....... all vehicle types....

sakuraguy,... you r in Japan?...want to bring a car back?...

Stating this the 4th time..

Apply AP from MITI no charge .. except a few ringgit for Form..
No difference if you r a student/profesional..
Live in the country for more than 1 year... own the car for more than 9 months.

10% devalued every for year.... less than 6 years
70% off evaluated value for a 6 year old car..
10% devalued every year after 6 years

Japanese made car get 25% off the initial value too....... then you times the value of the car with engine capacity in the table above... that would be the tax that you need to pay...

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Added new 3rd table, the new rates .... thnx BeastX, ure contribution is there now smile.gif
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so if the max the cud charge is 165%
if i bring back a used Uk spec mazda 6 or a beemer for 3500GBP=RM24500 laugh.gif
Rm24500 x 165% = RM64925
RM40425:tax imposed.. wink.gif
da*m xpensive.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(RaFaLe @ Nov 18 2007, 07:17 AM)
so if the max the cud charge is 165%
if i bring back a used Uk spec mazda 6 or a beemer for 3500GBP=RM24500  laugh.gif
Rm24500 x 165% = RM64925
RM40425:tax imposed.. wink.gif
da*m xpensive.. sad.gif
165% x [above 3L car.. value (depreciate as stated in my previous post)]... 6 years old car and above has the highest tax cut

not sure of the Euro made cars... but Japanese made cars (or brand) have 25% off the initial value of car before depreciation calculation..

there is also appeal where you can get few k RM discount...

Even you get the car for free.. you still need to pay tax based on evaluation and currency of country of origin.

Usually the tax imposed (for 8 years old or more) on car is less than the market value of the car... A RM24.5k car ... would probably be at around RM40k total (tax and cost)
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post Nov 19 2007, 04:57 AM

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Let say; Mazda 6 2.0L or BMW 320i both at the same price range/same yr.. happy.gif

1) 10% devalued every for year.... less than 6 years
2) 70% off evaluated value for a 6 year old car..
3) 10% devalued every year after 6 years

so then,i get a 5yr old model / 7 yr
10% de-valuated = 50% / 70%
24500 x 50% = 12250 / 24500 x 70% = 17150
12250 +(12250 * 165%) = 32462 / 7350 + 165%tax= 19477.5

if this;pretty acceptable..i think so.. wink.gif
if got one for free;lucky enuf la..pay tax oni..LOL
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QUOTE(RaFaLe @ Nov 19 2007, 04:57 AM)
so then,i get a 5yr old model / 7 yr
10% de-valuated = 50% / 70%
24500 x 50% = 12250 / 24500 x 70% = 17150
12250 +(12250 * 165%) = 32462 / 7350 + 165%tax= 19477.5

if this;pretty acceptable..i think so.. wink.gif 
if got one for free;lucky enuf la..pay tax oni..LOL
That is not how you calculate... by your methods a 9/10 year old car would be tax free... but it is not...
it is a year by year depreciation... (with the exception of the 6th year) and the value will not reach zero for a infinate number of years...

and It is the retail value of the car brand new...not the price at which you purchased 2nd hand that is used to calculate..Surely the retail price of a mid/high end, 2L BMW cost more than RM24500 brand new.

year and the value of the car remaining .... to be times with 120% for 2L, 165% (for car larger than 3L).

1 st year.. 90%
2nd year.. 81%
3rd year .. 72.9%
4th year .. 65.61%
5th year .. 59.049%
6th year .. 30%
7th year .. 27%
8th year .. 24.3%
9th year .. 21.87%
10th year .. 19.683%
... and so on


You see the huge gap between 5th and 6th years....

A 6 year old car 2L car ...30%value of car x 120%= 36% price of the initial retail price of the car, would be the tax to be paid.

say a car at RM 90k initially after 6 years will still need to pay RM32.4k in taxes

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but when u bring back your car, does ur car tax gets deducted from that country?

let say u buy car from uk , u pay tax there, later u bring back ur car , also kena tax back here. means paying tax for both country. is it? or u buy car in uk without tax , bring back only kena tax?
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i think taxed in both side, if i'm not mistaken.
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Sigh... Was looking so hard for this information earlier on when I was planning to buy a car overseas while I was still there...

Guess I'm waaaaay too late now and it costs waaaaaay too much and waaaaaay not worthwhile to bring nice cars into Msia... Maintenance, tax, wonderful ROADS in MSia will juz spoil the cool ride.

BTW, very good piece of info and thanks for taking the time to contribute icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Nov 19 2007, 07:02 AM)
That is not how you calculate... by your methods a 9/10 year old car would be tax free... but it is not...
it is a year by year depreciation... (with the exception of the 6th year) and the value will not reach zero for a infinate number of years...

and It is the retail value of the car brand new...not the price at which you purchased 2nd hand that is used to calculate..Surely the retail price of a mid/high end, 2L BMW cost more than RM24500 brand new.

year and the value of the car remaining .... to be times with 120% for 2L, 165% (for car larger than 3L).

1 st year.. 90%
2nd year.. 81%
3rd year .. 72.9%
4th year .. 65.61%
5th year .. 59.049%
6th year .. 30%
7th year .. 27%
8th year .. 24.3%
9th year .. 21.87%
10th year .. 19.683%
... and so on
You see the huge gap between 5th and 6th years....

A 6 year old car 2L car ...30%value of car x 120%= 36% price of the initial retail price of the car, would be the tax to be paid.

say a car at RM 90k initially after 6 years will still need to pay RM32.4k in taxes
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My bad,i'm not so good @maths doh.gif
now sure looks much..
better save more $$ from now.. sweat.gif
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how about importing from Langkawi?
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QUOTE(feiming @ Nov 25 2007, 09:20 AM)
how about importing from Langkawi?
Same tax... but there will be no need AP
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naza can help u for an additional rm30-40k depending on type of cars. if u have your own AP, it's gonna be cheaper.
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QUOTE(sakuraguy @ Nov 17 2007, 02:33 PM)
In order to apply for this permit your car must be registered under your name for at least 3 years. The following documentation must then be presented and processed:
Information from people in UK said the car is under your posession for 9 months only? anyone know about this?

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QUOTE(bitterbutter @ Nov 27 2007, 04:53 PM)
Information from people in UK said the car is under your posession for 9 months only? anyone know about this?
Yes.. Stay in the country for more than a year and own the vehicle for more than 9 months...


Added on November 28, 2007, 7:30 am
QUOTE(feiming @ Nov 25 2007, 09:20 AM)
how about importing from Langkawi?
Same tax applies... AP most likely not..

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hmm if i want buy car from japan...i buy for her 1st then let my sister use for her study and after 4-5 years she give back that car to me...how?must have tax also?can calculate about it for me?
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QUOTE(shuyina @ Nov 29 2007, 03:41 PM)
hmm if i want buy car from japan...i buy for her 1st then let my sister use for her study and after 4-5 years she give back that car to me...how?must have tax also?can calculate about it for me?
By that time tax would likely have cahnged... as of now..

4th year .. 65.61%
5th year .. 59.049%
6th year .. 30%

Japan made car have 25% off initially... So lets say a 2L, 6 year old car for RM X...

Amount taxed = (0.75)(0.30)(1.20) X = 0.27X, or 27% of RM X, the intial purchase price of car.

Cars in Japan over 3 yo need to pay shaken that is good for 2 years.. this may range from RM 3 to 4k or more...

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so isit worth it to buy cars like from brunei and bring back to malaysia? after adding all the taxes ? or better to get it in malaysia ?
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QUOTE(darlyn @ Dec 1 2007, 01:07 PM)
so isit worth it to buy cars like from brunei and bring back to malaysia? after adding all the taxes ? or better to get it in malaysia ?
The most worth for your hard earn cash now/minimal tax, would be ... for a good quality 2nd hand over 6yo cars, There is also a problem of AP... but (as of now) each citizen is entitled once in a life time AP if you stay more than a year abroad..... that is normal citizens.. not the undertable, underdeclared, unethetical, abuse of rights, AP kings

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hmm i dun really understand..so means the example for the 7 series right...u import back the car and buy in Msia also about the same price...
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how long will this gonna last. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
im tired of seeing those fcuking ugly malaysian cars. i wanna see more merc, bimmer, audi, porsche, lambo, ferrari but no potong and perodua icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
i guess if no those duties then maybe got huge increase of supercars OTR drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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i got friend which study in uk.. he planned to buy a perodua or proton car since it will be tax free.

but how much is the transportation fee from uk to malaysia? anyone know?? will it cost more than rm1ok?
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what is the detail condition to qualify for a student AP? i hv a fren studying in uk currently for over 2.5 years...
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QUOTE(steamboat @ Dec 18 2007, 09:15 PM)
what is the detail condition to qualify for a student AP? i hv a fren studying in uk currently for over 2.5 years...
The vehicle has to be under his name, totaly transfered for 9 months.. and he stayed more than a year (which he did)

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For Malaysian Citizens who are coming down to reside permanantly in malaysia

http://www.mohr.gov.my/index.php?option=co...=140&Itemid=231
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malaysia shouldn't protect their local cars. Look at Myvvi for instance? Does it look like a car that cost 50,000? I think if you put this car in international market people would rather chip more for a used mini cooper (new version).

If the government did not protect the local car market I think that proton would be forced to improve their cars due to competitors and this would be a very good option. Look at now and the future? Proton is still selling new cars the age of mine, this really upsets me.

And for what I think Perdana V6 should just be priced less then rm40k. The CRV high spec in the USA is just about $25k USD which after conversion is less then a new perdana. And not to forget the CRV is a jap car not local there.


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For Malaysian Citizens who are coming down to reside permanantly in malaysia

http://www.mohr.gov.my/index.php?option=co...=140&Itemid=231
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Unlikely they will ever get their citizenships unless they covert to Muslim. There are so many stories that foreign citizens try so hard to get their PR here.

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QUOTE(bitterbutter @ Nov 27 2007, 04:53 PM)
Information from people in UK said the car is under your posession for 9 months only? anyone know about this?
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This it true as i am one of them who is bringing back my car (toyota celica) from london. U have to to have proof of being in UK for 1 year as for me studying there for 1 1/2year i sufficient and must possess the car for at least 9 month....

QUOTE(zacevox @ Dec 10 2007, 01:09 AM)
i got friend which study in uk.. he planned to buy a perodua or proton car since it will be tax free.

but how much is the transportation fee from uk to malaysia? anyone know?? will it cost more than rm1ok?
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The transport for mine cost 600pound at Uk port and additional RM1000 at msia port( as far as my i know and what i had to pay ) just last month

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however my car is still in the shipping process by the way

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Nov 29 2007, 05:15 PM)
By that time tax would likely have cahnged... as of now..

4th year .. 65.61%
5th year .. 59.049%
6th year .. 30%

Japan made car have 25% off initially... So lets say a 2L,  6 year old car for RM X...

Amount taxed = (0.75)(0.30)(1.20) X = 0.27X, or 27% of RM X, the intial purchase price of car.

Cars in Japan over 3 yo need to pay shaken that is good for 2 years.. this may range from RM 3 to 4k or more...
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Hi BeastX, how do we determine in which year is the car in? Eg. the car is produced in Dec 1, 2000, can I declare is at its 2nd year at Jan 1 2001 (which in fact is only 1 month old) or at its 3rd year Jan 1 2002?

If the above is true, isn't it always feasible to import car in Jan than in Dec.?

Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Dec 25 2007, 09:52 AM)
The transport for mine cost 600pound at Uk port and additional RM1000 at msia port( as far as my i know and what i had to pay ) just last month

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however my car is still in the shipping process by the way
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ohh.. thanks!

but how bout the shipping/contena cost?? all include?
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Seems a lot has changed since I bought back my car in 2003....

Getting an AP was very easy. Got mine in a day. As long as you have all the documents you should be fine. Same conditions like now, 9 months ownership, studying overseas for at least a year, etc. They'll also want to see your road tax and insurance overseas.

Customs was a headache though. At the time, my 1.8L Lancer was taxed at 170%!!! To compound the problem further, the customs will value the car THEMSELVES, not the value that you bought the car! They kept insisting using the Japanese price of a Lancer instead of the price of my Australian-assembled Lancer which was much cheaper. You can show your receipt, invoice, whatever, and they'll still ignore it and use their price.

Luckily though, the value of the car is negotiable. They'll consider depreciation, and of course deduct the value of the tax you paid overseas. I ended up paying about 90% of the value of the car for the customs duty, which is still quite high but better than paying 170%..... sweat.gif biggrin.gif
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wow...after reading bout tis.....i try tis way to a newly launched Nissan GT-R Premium which cost around RM236,100.
guess wat? the price here will be about RM858,900.......man.....
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Really so high? zOMGWTFKNNBBQ...Dam Proton and Perodua, all your fault!!!
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based on the calculation,i think our government is big robber!!!

actually where all collected duty fee goes?is it will become part of government fund which will using for develop our country?

i think the amount must be alot since many people afford to buy luxury car here
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if no tax were charged on overseas vehicles, hm..... i guess our daily life money usage will be less = less incomes
right? a tiny changes on vehicles taxes will oso changes our country's economy.
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QUOTE(BB88 @ Dec 24 2007, 04:37 PM)



Added on December 24, 2007, 4:39 pm

Unlikely they will ever get their citizenships unless they covert to Muslim. There are so many stories that foreign citizens try so hard to get their PR here.
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this has nothing to do with becoming a citizen,this is a citizen bringing back the car to Malaysia
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 2 2008, 01:44 AM)
ohh.. thanks!

but how bout the shipping/contena cost?? all include?
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the 600 pound is the inclusive contena cost and all until sampai to msia. but if u want to take insurance itll cost u some more.
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where u guys normally import car back...i'm from US...In the states all most of the cars are left handed...sigh
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well to bad for u there contrea
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well to bad for u there contrea
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LOL haha...yeah thats pretty bad...feel like getting the latest skyline R35 back hehe
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i see if got lots and lots of $$$$$ can lorrr....
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Jan 13 2008, 10:48 AM)
i see if got lots and lots of $$$$$ can lorrr....
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anybody know how much is the price for Skyline R35 or the imprezza STI 08 or 09 version?
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QUOTE(contreasjun27 @ Jan 15 2008, 05:07 AM)
anybody know how much is the price for Skyline R35 or the imprezza STI 08 or 09 version?
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in Ringgit Malaysia? I already stated the price for R35 GT-R Premium above wink.gif
wow....approx RM3.8k inclusive of freight cost to import your car from UK without insurance? how to calculate the freight anyway haha... i'm too noob. and insurance all same price (RM1000)?
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ap fees charged goes to certain politicians and their lil puppies....not government or anybody or race......any imported cars from any dealer needs an AP, as long as have CBU tag or grey import
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sitting on AP rights.. to charge whatever they desire (may go up to 20k or more).. getting fat/rich for doing nothing but just for the privilage awarded because of contacts... this on top of the high tax... makes the Malaysian system... very flawed

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agreed whistling.gif
wut about selling AP then? some of my friends told me it could even fetch to 10k..
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if my fren in japan, bringin here 2cars, 1 is his, 1 mine... How d taxes will be? He's student... So he'll get d AP right? but for my car?
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QUOTE(craxz @ Apr 20 2008, 05:54 PM)
if my fren in japan, bringin here 2cars, 1 is his, 1 mine... How d taxes will be? He's student... So he'll get d AP right? but for my car?
One AP per person overseas.... He will have to find another Malaysian that qualifies for an AP to bring another car...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Apr 21 2008, 05:52 PM)
One AP per person overseas.... He will have to find another Malaysian that qualifies for an AP to bring another car...
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Ooo.. Thanks... So if he bring in both, the other 1 will be taxed fully charged right? Sigh..
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QUOTE(craxz @ Apr 23 2008, 01:58 PM)
Ooo.. Thanks... So if he bring in both, the other 1 will be taxed fully charged right? Sigh..
There is no escape from tax... One of the cars will not have the right to land/enter in Malaysia (stuck at the Port)..

AP... Approved Permit to import a car... not a free pass from tax..


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Does anyone know the procedures for importing a MOTORCYCLE into Malaysia? hmm.gif
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Wow this is great. I didnt know that. Are there any rules for modified cars that i need to know. I have an RX7 2000 series 8 that is heavily modified. Im a malaysian with ozzie PR. So can i bring back like a car, 1 for every member of my family?? They are super cheap here. The new GTR is being supported by nissan australia so they comming in at 70G for base model, I work for Just Jap. They import them and parts.. so i could sell them in malaysia rite and make a killing..
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1AP (for 1 car) per person... once in a life time... unless the Mal. gov abolish the present rules.. There is no escape from tax (unless you can get, tax exemption for your return to Malaysia,such as high skilled professional)

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Apr 26 2008, 01:24 PM)
Does anyone know the procedures for importing a MOTORCYCLE into Malaysia?  hmm.gif
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bikes r oso cheap outside Msia..esp those Yzf's , BeastX hv any info for this? hmm.gif
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Update.. just got back from custom office... (1st page, first post info in way-way in need of update).

calculation as below
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Analysis...best periods/tax.... a day >21months and >60months. <2L engine..

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I don't really understand how to calculate the tax for import.

For example,

If i buy a car at Australia for RM100,000 and i want to bring back to Malaysia after i stay there for 3 years and above.
How the tax counts? The car is 5.0L. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(leeys90 @ May 16 2008, 02:49 PM)
I don't really understand how to calculate the tax for import.

For example,

If i buy a car at Australia for RM100,000 and i want to bring back to Malaysia after i stay there for 3 years and above.
How the tax counts? The car is 5.0L.  hmm.gif
According to the custom office

calculations
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But it still worth right? I means how much actually cost in Malaysia if i can buy the car at Australia for RM100,000?
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QUOTE(leeys90 @ May 16 2008, 10:51 PM)
But it still worth right? I means how much actually cost in Malaysia if i can buy the car at Australia for RM100,000?
Worth, if you are willing to part with another RM100,000 or so (pure tax) to the government... note that a >5 years old car receives 70% depreciation. If you have a buyer in Malaysia willing to part more money to buy a car off you you have to wait another 2 years after your return before you can transfer name (as the AP stipulates).

also you could look at it this way.. a brand new car (less than a year) would cost you about RM300,000 (value + tax), after 3 years, it will cost you about RM200,000 (value + tax).

You could appeal for more discounts from custom, my calculation is the maximum that they can charge you.
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QUOTE
also you could look at it this way.. a brand new car (less than a year) would cost you about RM300,000 (value + tax), after 3 years, it will cost you about RM200,000 (value + tax).


That RM300,000 ( value + tax ) is the cost of buying car at Malaysia or overseas?
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QUOTE(leeys90 @ May 17 2008, 09:28 AM)
That RM300,000 ( value + tax ) is the cost of buying car at Malaysia or overseas?
buying a brand new car(5L) overseas at RM100,000 for less than a year (but more than 9 months) will be taxed about RM200,000... so total.. would roughly be RM300,000
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buying a brand new car(5L) overseas at RM100,000 for less than a year (but more than 9 months) will be taxed about RM200,000... so total.. would roughly be RM300,000


The tax costs a bomb!! vmad.gif
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aya mustwell drive there better still rite !
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QUOTE(johnkor @ May 18 2008, 03:38 PM)
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hm.... interesting topic

say if I buy a 1 year old BMW 320i SE from UK, costing around GBP19k, what would the tax be in, say 5 years time to import it back? That would meant its a 6 years old car wouldn't it?
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QUOTE(Glyyde @ May 22 2008, 10:23 PM)
hm.... interesting topic

say if I buy a 1 year old BMW 320i SE from UK, costing around GBP19k, what would the tax be in, say 5 years time to import it back? That would meant its a 6 years old car wouldn't it?
in the depreciation calculation of a car, over 60 months to 72 months, the car would have 70% depreciation.....so you'll need the car to be over 84 months for the next 10% depreciation... therefore a car over 60 months to less than 84 months (for a period of 2 years) should still be at 70% depreciation. It is best, therefore to get a car just exceeding 60 months old.
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great work... cheers

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Hrm..., I just had a thought...

What if I disassembled the entire car, and shipped the parts in one by one, and then reassemble in my garage?

A little troublesome..., but I noticed that NISMO and other aftermarket companies can sell parts for cheap. Maybe can?
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under The Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) programme,

One of the fringe benefits from this programme is the option for successful applicants to either import one (1) used car that belongs to the applicant personally from his or her country of residence (subject to Approved Permit but exempted from payment of import duty, excise duty and sales tax if done within 6 months from MM2H pass endorsement date) OR to purchase one (1) locally made passenger car in Malaysia which is exempted from payment of excise duty and sales tax (within 1 year from MM2H pass endorsement).

http://www.mercedes-benz.com.my/content/ma...me.html#mainnav

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QUOTE(neuFERT @ Jun 14 2008, 12:52 PM)
under The Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) programme,

One of the fringe benefits from this programme is the option for successful applicants to either import one (1) used car that belongs to the applicant personally from his or her country of residence (subject to Approved Permit but exempted from payment of import duty, excise duty and sales tax if done within 6 months from MM2H pass endorsement date) OR to purchase one (1) locally made passenger car in Malaysia which is exempted from payment of excise duty and sales tax (within 1 year from MM2H pass endorsement).
For foreigners... especially retired people... Like many Japanese have done so... bringing in their high powered/big cc euro made cars.
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arghh.... I saw a Civic Type R year 2007 only RM90k in Japan. Thinking of buying this 1 and import to Malaysia. Could I just buy an AP from Naza lets say RM50k and just like that? RM90k + 50k = RM140k ? Or I still need to pay alot of crappy taxes eventually much more expensive than buying a new Type R in Malaysia ?

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QUOTE(flyingfox @ Jun 19 2008, 12:41 AM)
arghh.... I saw a Civic Type R year 2007 only RM90k in Japan. Thinking of buying this 1 and import to Malaysia. Could I just buy an AP from Naza lets say RM50k and just like that? RM90k + 50k = RM140k ? Or I still need to pay alot of crappy taxes eventually much more expensive than buying a new Type R in Malaysia ?
AP cost nothing... taxes will bring it more or less to 180 to 200k
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jun 19 2008, 03:04 AM)
AP cost nothing... taxes will bring it more or less to 180 to 200k
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if end up still 200k, then i better buy a new 1 in Malaysia. Really no way to get lower price ? How come those used car importer can get so low price ? Like Honda Integra 05 selling in Malaysia for around Rm170k, I saw 1 in jap site which is around RM70k, so I guess the cost should be around RM140-150k, mark up till RM170k. Hmm.... I think you are right, so basically just use the car value X 2 , should be the estimated price in Malaysia biggrin.gif



wait wait, I found another Type R which is around RM75k, so would it be around RM150k arrived in Malaysia?


Added on June 23, 2008, 3:24 pmi tried to use the formula in page 2. Jap made car got 25% off ?

so lets say brand new Type R in Jap is Rm95k

RM95k X 25% = RM23750
RM95000 - RM23750 = RM71250

so is RM71250 X 90% (1 year old car) = RM64125
RM64125 X 120% = RM76950 (this is the total tax??)

Total price after bring in to Malaysia = RM80k (2nd hand Type R in Jap) + RM76950(tax) = RM156950 ???

Correct ar?

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Hmm, I know this is a little too much to ask, but can write out the formula to calculate the final price to import a used car from overseas?

I have read through the thread and am quite confused how to calculate tongue.gif

I staretd a thread a long time ago but I think that info is outdated:

Link to old thread

Thinking of importing a used car from Thailand... icon_question.gif
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CAN I KNOW THE DUTY DUTY OR TAX TAX THEY CHARGE ,WHERE THE MONEY GONE ALREADY????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's why many people are driving their imported cars for 10 years, 15 years.

Even tax for Proton, Perodua are relatively high too,..
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importing cars to msia is so expensive @.@ unless u have an ap. . haha
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Getting an AP does not omit you from taxes and duties... It is just the right to import.. sadly even this is abuse in this country that a fee is added (inflated artificially) to use the AP which "they" have gotten for free from the government.
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Wah..so expensive hah..

plan to bring back my car from UK

buy at 6500 euro = RM 40 K

i got an AP student,

car 1.8 cc (actually 1779 cc) japan made, model 2003..next year plan to bring back

So tax is???plus shipping??
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QUOTE(Dohc @ Aug 14 2008, 06:50 PM)
Wah..so expensive hah..

plan to bring back my car from UK

buy at 6500 euro = RM 40 K

i got an AP student,

car 1.8 cc (actually 1779 cc) japan made, model 2003..next year plan to bring back

So tax is???plus shipping??
Calculation as on May 2008 (refer to my post #66), a car from Euro's Freight Fee is RM 1700 (not the actual transport fee... As a container may cost RM3 to 5k, from UK)

FOB value = [(Value on the year made, as on custom's list) - (15%,.. earnings/ keuntungan peralih)] x (% depreciation according to the age of the car)

your FOB, in 2009 your car exceed the 60months period so it will be 30% of the initial car value (-15%) in 2003.

CIF (Cost, Insurance, Freight) value = FOB + Insurance(1.5% of FOB) + Freight fare (RM1700).


(calculation below may not be accurate, but I was taxed so)

For your <2L

Import duty = CIF x 30%.
Excise duty = (Import duty + CIF) x 80%, effectively 104%.
Sales tax = (CIF + Import duty + Excise duty) x 10%, effectively 23.4%

Total tax for a 2L car = 157.4% x CIF value.

So all you need to know is the approximate selling price of your car in 2003 to calculate FOB, CIF and finally the tax you be subjected to...

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Aug 14 2008, 08:51 PM)
Calculation as on May 2008 (refer to my post #66), a car from Euro's Freight Fee is RM 1700 (not the actual transport fee... As a container may cost RM3 to 5k, from UK)

FOB value = [(Value on the year made, as on custom's list) - (15%,.. earnings/ keuntungan peralih)] x (% depreciation according to the age of the car)

your FOB, in 2009 your car exceed the 60months period so it will be 30% of the initial car value (-15%) in 2003.

CIF (Cost, Insurance, Freight) value = FOB + Insurance(1.5% of FOB) + Freight fare (RM1700).
(calculation below may not be accurate, but I was taxed so)

For your <2L

Import duty = CIF x 30%.
Excise duty = (Import duty + CIF) x 80%, effectively 104%.
Sales tax = (CIF + Import duty + Excise duty) x 10%, effectively 23.4%

Total tax for a 2L car = 157.4% x CIF value.

So all you need to know is the approximate selling price of your car in 2003 to calculate FOB, CIF and finally the tax you be subjected to...
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TQ for info..

that mean = buy second hand from UK = RM 40K
plus tax + shipping = must spend almmost 30 K more..

then total price = most probably RM 70 plus++...am i rite?..


so, tax very expensive..how come parallel importer can get more cheper price?

For student, AP is free, so no need pay for it (except for form)

For parallel importer, AP normally they buy from politician..must spend roughly RM 40-50 K for it..but the total price when car reach at malaysia is still lower...

How come?
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QUOTE(Dohc @ Aug 15 2008, 08:22 AM)
TQ for info..

that mean = buy second hand from UK = RM 40K
plus tax + shipping = must spend almmost 30 K more..

then total price = most probably RM 70 plus++...am i rite?..
so, tax very expensive..how come parallel importer can get more cheper price?

For student, AP is free, so no need pay for it (except  for form)

For parallel importer, AP normally they buy from politician..must spend roughly RM 40-50 K for it..but the total price when car reach at malaysia is still lower...

How come?
Your calculations are more or less right

... find out the price of your car brand new as in 2003... minus 15% of it... then that value x 0.3 (30% after 5 years).

Assuming the car is RM 60k in 2003(brand new). FOB would be RM15.3k, CIF would be RM 17229.5 (15.3k + 229.5 + 1700)

the tax would be 155.4%xCIF = RM27.119k.

You can appeal at the kastam office for an additional discount up to 40% or more (depends on your persuasion ability)..., so you can get probably around RM15k in tax. So maybe is still worth it in your case ... A Euro spec car for about RM55k not including shipping.. plus 5 to 6k or more, depends on your transport options.

Parallel importer cannot import cars exceeding 5 years, individuals/personel/student AP can. Lots are underdeclared, from my calculations they are still overpriced even after feeding AP holders and customs officers...

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Hi,

Just some questions.

1) Is there no way to bring back a left-handed drive car back to M'sia?
(Situation: Student AP after owning it for 1 year and stayed in foreign country for more than 1 year, Car information: 2004, 1.3L).

2) I notice that it says "europe/ UK" in the tax section, most european cars drive on the right side, only UK drives on the left, isnt it?
[Drive on the right side = steering on the left]
[Drive on the left side = steering on the right]
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Thus, doesn't that means importing a "steering on the left-side" car is possible?

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QUOTE(vX-2 @ Aug 17 2008, 08:09 AM)
Hi,

Just some questions.

1) Is there no way to bring back a left-handed drive car back to M'sia?
(Situation: Student AP after owning it for 1 year and stayed in foreign country for more than 1 year, Car information: 2004, 1.3L).

2) I notice that it says "europe/ UK" in the tax section, most european cars drive on the right side, only UK drives on the left, isnt it?
[Drive on the right side = steering on the left]
[Drive on the left side = steering on the right]
(Wikipedia Source)
Thus, doesn't that means importing a "steering on the left-side" car is possible?

Thanks
1. Actually owning for 9 months is sufficient, ..... after checking online.. maybe left hand drive is allow... but will be very inconvenient to you...

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so tat Malaysia gorverment and all the staff got money into ur pocket.....
than u buy than need to pay more....
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is it any runner or company provided service for import personal car? using student AP?
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QUOTE(Dohc @ Aug 21 2008, 02:16 PM)
is it any runner or company provided service for import personal car? using student AP?
There are... they usually charge you RM 2k for their services... which includes procedures going through customs, jpj and puspakom.... However if you personally go to the customs office, you may get a much higher percentage of discount (depends on your ability to negotiate, you may safe a lot in tax). This charge does not included unloading/transporting from docks... which may cost you RM1 to 2k more...

In fact any private citizen can be a runner....

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just wondering if pure electric car (not hybrid, which still use i.c.e. Internal combustion engine) exempted fm tax maybe only pay salestax.? Like electric motorbike probably treated like bicycle?
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Or a Tesla.... pure battery powered... based on a lotus (probably)

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need info here..

If I were to buy Honda Accord 2.4 in Langkawi .. OTR RM103,000.. how much do i need to pay tax to bring it to mainland..

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hey guys. was wondering, how much would it cost to bring a 1999 nissan skyline gtr 2.5 litre, it costs Rm30700 or just put it as Rm30k.

Enquired it at a japanese site. Read ur earlier posts, but still cant seem to figure it out.

Just wanna noe, wats the final price of this car after tax.

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QUOTE(chinesepunk123 @ Sep 5 2008, 02:24 AM)
hey guys. was wondering, how much would it cost to bring a 1999 nissan skyline gtr 2.5 litre, it costs Rm30700 or just put it as Rm30k.

Enquired it at a japanese site. Read ur earlier posts, but still cant seem to figure it out.

Just wanna noe, wats the final price of this car after tax.

thx guys
Unless there is a change of gov. policies, the trouble is getting the AP.... price of tax is based on the car value selling in 1999 and depreciated for 9 years.... even if the car is FOC, you will still be tax...

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a question here.. how about if i want to bring back my car to malaysia.. i bought it 2nd hand at very cheap price.. is the tax will be based on my purchased price??
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QUOTE(sanfa @ Sep 8 2008, 04:35 PM)
a question here.. how about if i want to bring back my car to malaysia.. i bought it 2nd hand at very cheap price.. is the tax will be based on my purchased price??
Custom will tax you based on the cars value as it was seling when it was made and minus the depreciated value... calculations/time period and example were given

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if u want to know how much the car importer get the car from japan or uk,just go to the used car dealer along jln. kuching because they display the Custom declaration form on windscreen...i was shock to see that 2005 5-series only cost 30k in japan...

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yet here selling the price by 3 fold...
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its always cheap when u buy it overseas dude. Its the tax and etc that kills you when u get it to msia soil.........I know as i have went through it once early this year
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Nov 17 2007, 11:15 PM)
Outdated info...

Japanese made car get 25% off the initial value too....... then you times the value of the car with engine capacity in the table above... that would be the tax that you need to pay...
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BeastX .. great info

I'm currently in UK and planning to bring back car as most of u all in this forum.

Don't mean to question your info reliability but where does it officially say that Japanese made car get 25%?
If it does, u minus 25% to the FOB right? that's before calculating import, excise and sales tax.
ie FOB = (value car as brand new - 15%) X depreciation X 75% (jap cars)
Does this 25% discount applies if u import Jap made car from UK? or only Jap made cars imported directly from Jap.
How about Jap brand cars but manufactured not in Jap (dont know if there is such thing ..but say Nissan Qashqai)

U talked about aprox 40% discount from custom, that is discount to the total tax ie (import duty + excise duty + sales tax) X 60% OR
tax down to only 40%?

Cheers
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QUOTE(jintoncet @ Sep 23 2008, 09:26 PM)
BeastX .. great info

I'm currently in UK and planning to bring back car as most of u all in this forum.

Don't mean to question your info reliability but where does it officially say that Japanese made car get 25%?
If it does, u minus 25% to the FOB right? that's before calculating import, excise and sales tax.
ie FOB = (value car as brand new - 15%) X depreciation X 75% (jap cars)
Does this 25% discount applies if u import Jap made car from UK? or only Jap made cars imported directly from Jap.
How about Jap brand cars but manufactured not in Jap (dont know if there is such thing ..but say Nissan Qashqai)

U talked about aprox 40% discount from custom, that is discount to the total tax ie (import duty + excise duty + sales tax)  X 60% OR
tax down to only 40%?

Cheers
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It is not minus 25% from FOB... It was minus 25% from "price of the car in the year it was made"... This calculation was from someone's tax calculation back in 2004.. My car tax calculation in May of this year, got only a 15% off instead of 25%, it was classified as "keuntungan peralihan".

You can appeal for the FOB value of the car (My case) to be reduced and the overall discount you can get would be probably get up to 40% off the total tax (import duty + excise duty + sales tax), then without appeal. There are previous examples (2004 case) where 20 to 30% discounts was applied to the final tax and not FOB value. I guess this would depend on the custom officer...

Depends on the situation... a Discount on the FOB value may reduce the overall tax more then discount to the final tax.. especially for high CC car (3L and above).
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if only someone can do excel formula about this.. lol

ehmm.. my senior planning to bring back his Mr2. i think 1991.. not sure..

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tax i hear 10k
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 24 2008, 09:04 AM)
It is not minus 25% from FOB... It was minus 25% from "price of the car in the year it was made"... This calculation was from someone's tax calculation back in 2004.. My car tax calculation in May of this year, got only a 15% off instead of 25%, it was classified as "keuntungan peralihan".

You can appeal for the FOB value of the car (My case) to be reduced and the overall discount you can get would be probably get up to 40% off the total tax (import duty + excise duty + sales tax), then without appeal. There are previous examples (2004 case) where 20 to 30% discounts was applied to the final tax and not FOB value. I guess this would depend on the custom officer...

Depends on the situation... a Discount on the FOB value may reduce the overall tax more then discount to the final tax.. especially for high CC car (3L and above).
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For argument sake, I have done calculation based on your info on the BMW X5 (3L) BRAND NEW from UK
UPDATED based on BeastX comment about the insurance being 1.5% not 15%
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Compare that against what X5 is being sold in Malaysia by authorized dealer which just RM 570k

Doesn't make sense. I guess the only way the car value can be 570k is only if CIF value is reduced via discount from custom or under declare or custom use BMW factory frice

I got this "gazetted car pricelist for 2006" over the Internet. This list provide CIF value for most CBU and X5 is just RM161k.
Put 161k into the calculation, the total cost would be RM 471k
That would be more reasonable ... dealership take 100k profit smile.gif

Anyway, BeastX which department of the custom did you go to for this purpose.
Maybe I should ask then what would be CIF value my shortlist cars smile.gif?

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Insurance is 1.5% not 15%.... I have a nagging query with Custom department... the effective tax should be around 150% and not 193.15%... by all examples given.. import duty should not be included into the calculation of excise duty.

Besides u need to own the vehicle for 9 months to qualify for AP(unless the is a change in Gov.).... so.. another 20% depreciation to FOB

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is there any restriction in bringing a car back to malaysia, like its make say a holden (australian car) or year of car....
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is there any restriction in bringing a car back to malaysia, like its make say a holden (australian car) or year of car....
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want to ask you guys if you know about this...is it posibble for Custom Department to give discount on import duty?..let say car above 3000cc the tax only is about 200% but they calculate only 150%...I asked somebody in other forum,he said posibble..
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jan 4 2008, 05:40 PM)
Seems a lot has changed since I bought back my car in 2003....

Getting an AP was very easy. Got mine in a day. As long as you have all the documents you should be fine. Same conditions like now, 9 months ownership, studying overseas for at least a year, etc. They'll also want to see your road tax and insurance overseas.

Customs was a headache though. At the time, my 1.8L Lancer was taxed at 170%!!! To compound the problem further, the customs will value the car THEMSELVES, not the value that you bought the car! They kept insisting using the Japanese price of a Lancer instead of the price of my Australian-assembled Lancer which was much cheaper. You can show your receipt, invoice, whatever, and they'll still ignore it and use their price.

Luckily though, the value of the car is negotiable. They'll consider depreciation, and of course deduct the value of the tax you paid overseas. I ended up paying about 90% of the value of the car for the customs duty, which is still quite high but better than paying 170%.....  sweat.gif  biggrin.gif
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Bro (not sure u still reading this thread), u said u end up paying only 90%. Did custom reduced the import/excise/sales tax from 170% to 90%, but still maintain the value of the car as they valued it themselves?
OR, they still maintain the import/excise/sales tax but reduced the value of the car, which effectively will reduce the tax percentage?
Anyone else knows how custom works?


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QUOTE(magnate @ Sep 26 2008, 04:56 PM)
want to ask you guys if you know about this...is it posibble for Custom Department to give discount on import duty?..let say car above 3000cc the tax only is about 200% but they calculate only 150%...I asked somebody in other forum,he said posibble..
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yup, looking for the same feedback. ... the best is to call custom and ask. But, not sure if they are willing to declare that they can give discount. Maybe I'll try call next week ... if not everyone is on Eid holiday

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QUOTE(jintoncet @ Sep 27 2008, 06:35 AM)
Bro (not sure u still reading this thread), u said u end up paying only 90%. Did custom reduced the import/excise/sales tax from 170% to 90%, but still maintain the value of the car as they valued it themselves?
OR, they still maintain the import/excise/sales tax but reduced the value of the car, which effectively will reduce the tax percentage?
Anyone else knows how custom works?


Added on September 27, 2008, 6:39 am
yup, looking for the same feedback. ... the best is to call custom and ask. But, not sure if they are willing to declare that they can give discount. Maybe I'll try call next week ... if not everyone is on Eid holiday
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I have a question. Is it really necessary to have a job waiting for you in Malaysia before you can export your car from overseas? And must you be permanently in M'sia before you can do so?
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QUOTE(prozac @ Oct 2 2008, 12:20 PM)
I have a question. Is it really necessary to have a job waiting for you in Malaysia before you can export your car from overseas? And must you be permanently in M'sia before you can do so?
No need, as long you are a Malaysian, and you can use the AP only once in your life-time..... but the car will be under your name/cannot change ownership for 3 years
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Can i just ask, if i buy a proton from the UK and bring it back home to malaysia, will the tax still be high since it is a malaysian car ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bauer @ Oct 6 2008, 08:31 AM)
Can i just ask, if i buy a proton from the UK and bring it back home to malaysia, will the tax still be high since it is a malaysian car ?  hmm.gif
Even if there is no tax and you got your car for free and no AP is required... the shipping cost alone would make the car not worth it. The AP alone is worth RM 10 to 20k to some (as charged by the AP Kings)...

In UK.... get a Merc/Beemer/Scooby/Evo

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I just need a second hand Proton to start working and in the UK it's really cheap. So you are not really sure if there is tax on Protons from UK then?
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QUOTE(bauer @ Oct 8 2008, 05:06 AM)
I just need a second hand Proton to start working and in the UK it's really cheap. So you are not really sure if there is tax on Protons from UK then?
Not sure... but by right there should not be import and excise duty imposed... May be just the 10% sales tax is liable... Not sure if an AP is required...
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If I want to import 2nd or recon BMW how much I kene charge nnt?
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QUOTE(magnate @ Sep 26 2008, 04:56 PM)
want to ask you guys if you know about this...is it posibble for Custom Department to give discount on import duty?..let say car above 3000cc the tax only is about 200% but they calculate only 150%...I asked somebody in other forum,he said posibble..
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my wife said she saw a new Ford Mustang w/California plates being driven by and older caucasian man somewhere in Penang.

Did not even have the Malaysia plates on it. That's gotta be illegal. But have to admit that the Mustang would be more rare than a Ferrari F430, or Bentley.
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I have recently purchased an Evo X in Australia, could anyone please give me an idea how much tax I need to pay if I bring the car back next year. I paid AUD70,000 which approximately RM170,000 with current currency rate.

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QUOTE(shahkaka @ Sep 26 2008, 02:08 AM)
is there any restriction in bringing a car back to malaysia, like its make say a holden (australian car) or year of car....
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QUOTE(jason5413 @ Oct 25 2008, 04:16 PM)
I have recently purchased an Evo X in Australia, could anyone please give me an idea how much tax I need to pay if I bring the car back next year. I paid AUD70,000 which approximately RM170,000 with current currency rate.

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Australia where got Evo X ? doh.gif

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QUOTE(gigabyte_PHD @ Oct 25 2008, 07:42 PM)
Woooo !  laugh.gif


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Australia where got Evo X ?  doh.gif
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when AP will be abolished???? AFTA ????? who can give me an answer.....huuuuuuu huuuuuu
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QUOTE(jason5413 @ Oct 25 2008, 03:16 PM)
I have recently purchased an Evo X in Australia, could anyone please give me an idea how much tax I need to pay if I bring the car back next year. I paid AUD70,000 which approximately RM170,000 with current currency rate.

Cheers
Rough estimates...

Assuming that your car would be 1 year old (more than 12 months, 24% depreciation, more than 9 mnths, 20% dep.).

FOB val. (depends on custom list)... AUD60k -24%= AUD45.6k

CIF val. = AUD45.6k+ AUD684+RM1200 = roughly AUD46.8k

Tax = CIF x 157.4% = AUD 73.6k

or should be around 130% (instead of 157.4%) for... AUD 60.8k...

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make malaysia a tax free land.ahahaha
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Oct 26 2008, 10:40 AM)
Rough estimates...

Assuming that your car would be 1 year old (more than 12 months, 24% depreciation, more than 9 mnths, 20% dep.).

FOB val. (depends on custom list)... AUD60k -24%= AUD45.6k

CIF val. = AUD45.6k+ AUD684+RM1200 = roughly AUD46.8k

Tax = CIF x 157.4% = AUD 73.6k

or should be around 130% (instead of 157.4%) for... AUD 60.8k...
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The tax will based on the purchase price or the current market price? Evo X in Malaysia is selling around 300k but from your calculation, it seem like the car will be more expensive than buy one in Malaysia!

This sound ridiculous, why the gov give an AP to everyone work or study overseas but tax them more than a car dealers have.


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QUOTE(gigabyte_PHD @ Oct 25 2008, 09:12 PM)
Woooo !  laugh.gif


Added on October 25, 2008, 7:43 pm

Australia where got Evo X ?  doh.gif
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You can get an Evo X in most of the city in Australia, if not you still can buy from interstate.

Gtr35 in Australia is currently selling around AUD175,000.


Added on October 27, 2008, 6:07 amDoes anyone know the custom department phone number I can call in regard to the tax?

I need all your guys comment, please tell me is it worth to send my EVO X back to Malaysia? Cheers

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QUOTE(jason5413 @ Oct 27 2008, 06:00 AM)
The tax will based on the purchase price or the current market price? Evo X in Malaysia is selling around 300k but from your calculation, it seem like the car will be more expensive than buy one in Malaysia!

This sound ridiculous, why the gov give an AP to everyone work or study overseas but tax them more than a car dealers have.


Added on October 27, 2008, 6:03 am
You can get an Evo X in most of the city in Australia, if not you still can buy from interstate.

Gtr35 in Australia is currently selling around AUD175,000.


Added on October 27, 2008, 6:07 amDoes anyone know the custom department phone number I can call in regard to the tax?

I need all your guys comment,  please tell me is it worth to send my EVO X back to Malaysia? Cheers
Based on the custom list... If you can get the dealer list price (from Malaysia) I bet it will be declared well below AUD70k
In Japan the lowest end EvoX is AUD51k (before the eco/currency crisis would have been much lower), custom's price list should be below this...
For Aussie cars however you maybe taxed differently, custom officer may add additional cost to the car if they are extra accessories/ICE/Rims, though I escape this scrutiny and my car passed even if I had diamond encrusted rims, (depends on the custom's office mood, I guess).

Custom's office phone and e-mail are available on their web page site. You could negotiate with them to lower their evaluated tax price, I got a 40% discount on my tax.

With the lower AUD it is are cheaper to buy older stocks (with foreign money) before new stocks come.

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Based on the custom list... If you can get the dealer list price (from Malaysia) I bet it will be declared well below AUD70k
In Japan the lowest end EvoX is AUD51k (before the eco/currency crisis would have been much lower), custom's price list should be below this...
For Aussie cars however you maybe taxed differently, custom officer may add additional cost to the car if they are extra accessories/ICE/Rims, though I escape this scrutiny and my car passed even if I had diamond encrusted rims, (depends on the custom's office mood, I guess).

Custom's office phone and e-mail are available on their web page site. You could negotiate with them to lower their evaluated tax price, I got a 40% discount on my tax.

With the lower AUD it is are cheaper to buy older stocks (with foreign money) before new stocks come.
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Do you mind if I ask what kind of car you brought back to Malaysia and where was it from? How much it cost all up for your car, does it still cheaper than those in Malaysia market?

I did try the phone number in the custom web site but the guy asked me to ring another number. Then I called the number he gave, the person ask me to call another number again, it would never end. It seems like those people don’t know what they are doing, very frustrating.

What do you mean by old stock? Do you think I should send my car back or I shouldn’t?

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QUOTE(jason5413 @ Oct 27 2008, 09:01 AM)
What do you mean by old stock? Do you think I should send my car back or I shouldn’t?
PMed you, lower AUD value now, imports from Jp would be more expensive as Yen now at a 13 (or more) year high. I would think the higher cost would be passed to customers.. Yen is about 35% more to RM a year and 2 months ago.
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PMed you, lower AUD value now, imports from Jp would be more expensive as Yen now at a 13 (or more) year high. I would think the higher cost would be passed to customers.. Yen is about 35% more to RM a year and 2 months ago.
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Did you end up paid more than the market price for you car?
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Did you end up paid more than the market price for you car?
Much less then compared to a lower end spec similar model in Mal, but timing on the depreciation val. must be considered
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I don't think I will be still sending my car back anymore. No point to pay the f*king tax. Should tell the gov cancel the personal AP, giving you AP but still want to tax you sky high. They just try to rip off their own citizen by money
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QUOTE(jason5413 @ Oct 29 2008, 11:17 AM)
I don't think I will be still sending my car back anymore. No point to pay the f*king tax. Should tell the gov cancel the personal AP, giving you AP but still want to tax you sky high. They just try to rip off their own citizen by money
The AP kings are making a profit selling these permits... RM10 to 20k of easy money per permit, Gov earns tax, privilege idividuals earns AP payment, all from the pockets of Citizens...

There is a Gov program in which professionals working overseas can bring back a vehicle tax free... as an incentive to prevent brain drain...

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Really, do you know where I can find out more about the program and also do you know what type of work the gov consider as a professionals.
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Quick question. Let's say i buy a 2nd hand car, then how will it's age be calculated? The year that I buy the car or the year the previous owner buy it?
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Quick question. Let's say i buy a 2nd hand car, then how will it's age be calculated? The year that I buy the car or the year the previous owner buy it?
The car needs to be yours for 9 months before you qualify for AP. The age of the car is calculated from the month it is rolled out from the factory.
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Oct 29 2008, 12:56 PM)
The AP kings are making a profit selling these permits... RM10 to 20k of easy money per permit, Gov earns tax, privilege idividuals earns AP payment, all from the pockets of Citizens...

There is a Gov program in which professionals working overseas can bring back a vehicle tax free... as an incentive to prevent brain drain...
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Update.. just got back from custom office... (1st page, first post info in way-way in need of update).

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Analysis...best periods/tax.... a day >21months and >60months. <2L engine..
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I have got a question here, if I bring back a BMW M3 about 9 years old and based on the depreciation table "10% for the following 12 months after 72 months", does it mean that the car will have 100% depreciation and it will be free tax?



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Please advice where can I get the program information?
Read articles on it... cannot find a quote on google yet..

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I have got a question here, if I bring back a BMW M3 about 9 years old and based on the depreciation table "10% for the following 12 months after 72 months", does it mean that the car will have 100% depreciation and it will be free tax?
10% depreciation to the value of previous year..
year 6 = 30% left
year 7 = 27% left
year 8 = 24.3% left
year 9 = 21.87% left
year 10 = 19.68% left...

and so on...

As you see its a reverse log curve, it will take infinite number of years before it is tax free...

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I called custom and ask about the professionals working overseas tax free, they told me they haven't got this program. Only a profesional foreigner can get a tax free if they apply the malaysia second home program. How many foreigner will do that, I won't do this if I got the money. I'm sure if malaysia do this to it own citizen, definitely can attract lots of young professional going back.

By the way, is anyone know roughly the custom market list of the 2001-3 BMW M3?
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Nice car u got there Jason. BTW is it E46 330 M3? was it the full spec..theres rumors that market price for M3 E46 around 250k and above..expect more when it come with SMG or SMGII..
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I haven't owned one but thinking of buying if it worth to send back to Malaysia. It is a BMW E46 M3 come with SMG, the selling price here is around AUD 55000 = RM 132000. I just want to know how much the Malaysia customs going to tax me.
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Hi all, I wanna ask sumthin... I heard about a rumor saying that if you graduate and study overseas for a certain amount of time, you can actually bring back your car purchased there (2 units max) free of certain taxes...

Anyone heard of this before???
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Hi all, I wanna ask sumthin... I heard about a rumor saying that if you graduate and study overseas for a certain amount of time, you can actually bring back your car purchased there (2 units max) free of certain taxes...

Anyone heard of this before???
Stay(study/work, but not as tourist) for more than 12 mnths, own the car for more than 9 mnths, and you can get one AP to bring only one car.

Your Malaysian wife/husband/family/friend (with the same criteria) would need to apply for another.

The car needs to be under the name of the AP holder for 2 years, and cannot be transferred in that period.

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Nov 14 2008, 05:44 AM)
Stay(study/work, but not as tourist) for more than 12 mnths, own the car for more than 9 mnths, and you can get one AP to bring only one car.

Your Malaysian wife/husband/family/friend (with the same criteria) would need to apply for another.

The car needs to be under the name of the AP holder for 2 years, and cannot be transferred in that period.
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But taxes still apply right? You just get the permission to bring back the car, but I don't think u'll get any reduction in taxes. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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QUOTE(bauer @ Nov 14 2008, 05:47 AM)
But taxes still apply right? You just get the permission to bring back the car, but I don't think u'll get any reduction in taxes. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, taxes (import, excise and sales) still apply, you only escape the artificial "tax" of the AP (which is essentially a free permit issue by the gov.).

If you want to escape huge taxes, get a hybrid (2009 budget).

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Yes, taxes (import, excise and sales) still apply, you only escape the artificial "tax" of the AP (which is essentially a free permit issue by the gov.).

If you want to escape huge taxes, get a hybrid (2009 budget).
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Beast, does that hybrid tax exemption apply to the "student AP"? I thought it only apply to the grey importers.
And inm, these hybrid cars must be new when being brought in Malaysia. If use the student AP, definitely more than 9 months old car when u wan to bring into Malaysia.

Guys, those free tax for max 2 cars is under the Malaysian gov initiative to persuade professional working overseas to come back
http://www.mohr.gov.my/index.php?option=co...=140&Itemid=231

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QUOTE(jintoncet @ Nov 15 2008, 05:29 PM)
Beast, does that hybrid tax exemption apply to the "student AP"? I thought it only apply to the grey importers.
And inm, these hybrid cars must be new when being brought in Malaysia. If use the student AP, definitely more than 9 months old car when u wan to bring into Malaysia.

Guys, those free tax for max 2 cars is under the Malaysian gov initiative to persuade professional working overseas to come back
http://www.mohr.gov.my/index.php?option=co...=140&Itemid=231
It is good that you posted the link on working professionals Malaysian ...

The 100% import duty and 50% excise duty off maybe applicable to Student AP too... As Honda MY are revising their Hybrid pricing... a RM40k price cut... Prius are 10 years old already... Importing one could be cheap, but a functioning/new battery maybe needed...
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It is good that you posted the link on working professionals Malaysian ...

The 100% import duty and 50% excise duty off maybe applicable to Student AP too... As Honda MY are revising their Hybrid pricing... a RM40k price cut... Prius are 10 years old already... Importing one could be cheap, but a functioning/new battery maybe needed...
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Yup, working pros only ... but I have not personally meet or talk to anyone who had gone through this process before.

As you said, that's Honda MY pricing .... they get that tax reduction too, hence the price cut.
Still not convinced the student AP will get the examption. Nonetheless, I'm more than happy if the tax exemption applies. Anyone can share this info from the official source?

R u referring to a new Prius or a 10 yo recon Prius? If its new I'm sure you dont need a new battery.
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For the professional coming back to Malaysia offer,

Am wondering does this apply to working in SINGAPORE???

Also the professionals qualified for the exemption is quite blur, got different years, somemore phd, master, bachelor degree etc etc...
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i am interested to know abt the student ap too cuz i will be studying in australia for another 4 years...hope can get a honda back ><
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For the professional coming back to Malaysia offer,
Am wondering does this apply to working in SINGAPORE???
Also the professionals qualified for the exemption is quite blur, got different years, somemore phd, master, bachelor degree etc etc...
Not about professional's tax exemption.... but, if I am not mistaken, you cannot get the AP, studying/working in Brunei, Thailand, Indonesia and Singapore...
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I though the Professional come back and work program is not AP based since it's totally tax free?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 16 2009, 11:31 AM)
I though the Professional come back and work program is not AP based since it's totally tax free?
Tax free.... you can buy a car in Malaysia tax free, like the prices at Langkawi/Labuan ... Bringing in any car from outside the country will require AP even if it is tax free.
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HI Guys i need your help. I had been working in Australia for more than a year and i bought a second hand car (Honda Jazz - Semi auto 1.5cc Hatchback). It was built on March 2003. I bought it on April 2008 and was planning to ship it back to Malaysia next month (February 2009). I bought it for A$15,400. Here is some of my questions:

1) If i ship now, when are they counting the age of my car? When the car reach the port in KL? or when it get ships from here? As you can see, if i ship now, obviously the car will be 5yrs and 11 mths and by the time it reaches KL, it will be > 6yrs.

2) How long will the shipping takes from Australia to Malaysia (approximate)?

2) On what value will they be calculating the customs/taxes? at my purchase price or at brand new price?

3) Can any bro that help me what is the tax/value (and all other charges) that i might need to pay if i ship it back

4) Is there an office (Eg custom office or MITI) that will tell you how much taxes i need to pay before i ship my car back? I don't want to ship it back and then they tell me i need to pay RM50-60k then i really can't afford it

5) Also out of the topic, anyone knows any removalist which is highly recommended to move my stuffs back to KL from Australia?


Appreciate all your help
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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 17 2009, 02:50 PM)
HI Guys i need your help. I had been working in Australia for more than a year and i bought a second hand car (Honda Jazz - Semi auto 1.5cc Hatchback). It was built on March 2003. I bought it on April 2008 and was planning to ship it back to Malaysia next month (February 2009). I bought it for A$15,400. Here is some of my questions:
1) If i ship now, when are they counting the age of my car? When the car reach the port in KL? or when it get ships from here? As you can see, if i ship now, obviously the car will be 5yrs and 11 mths and by the time it reaches KL, it will be > 6yrs.
2) How long will the shipping takes from Australia to Malaysia (approximate)?
2) On what value will they be calculating the customs/taxes? at my purchase price or at brand new price?
3) Can any bro that help me what is the tax/value (and all other charges) that i might need to pay if i ship it back
4) Is there an office (Eg custom office or MITI) that will tell you how much taxes i need to pay before i ship my car back? I don't want to ship it back and then they tell me i need to pay RM50-60k then i really can't afford it
5) Also out of the topic, anyone knows any removalist which is highly recommended to move my stuffs back to KL from Australia?
Appreciate all your help
1) 6 years, Or more if you are lucky and the custom officer gives you more..
2) Get quotation from the shipping company.. some are online and the schedule should be there.. (rough estimate 2 weeks)
2a) Brand new price (minus some percentages) and the depreciated value. 1.5L has very low tax.. (Plead with the custom officer, as Jazz is available in Malaysia, you may get a higher cut in evaluated tax).
3)Tax... use my formula.., you need to follow Aussie law, importation documentation, Shipping by container 20ft... I estimate RM3 to 5k.. Port handling charges by a forwarder in Kelang around RM1k (cheaper if you know people).
4) Evaluation done by Custom officer at the port when it lands. Rough estimate your car would probably be tax at most RM15k (depends Currency value). You probably can get it to below RM10k if you negotiate/appeal.
5)... Cannot help you..... but 20ft will be a tight fit, if you have lots of things. If your shipping company allow you to stuff/stack till full in and out of the car, it will be great. If not you may need a 40ft container (cost probably increase 50 to 70% that of the 20ft container). If you share with another Malaysian with another car, you can safe cost. All things excluding the car should be tax free....
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So does that means based on your est.

Shipping and doc from Australia to M'sia - RM3-5k
Tax and custom charges (in M'sia) - RM10k-15k
Port Kang clearnce - RM1k
Total - RM21k (MAX - estimate)?

By the way, my car is made in japan does that have discount too? Can i call up the custom officer or send them my docs for a quote before sending my car back?


Added on January 18, 2009, 4:36 amHi BeastX,
I had made my own calculation. Not sure if it's correct or not. Can you check out for me? Btw, what is the difference between CBU Engine and CKD Engine? Also do i need to pay for insurance, etc?



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I should have been more specific... use my calculations on post 66 on page 4..
There is no made in Japan (25% cut, but a 15% "keuntungan peralihan" cut)
The last part on Effective tax can be disputed, it is either 115.5% or 150.25%(as stated)

If your FOB value is RM 50k (estimate), after 6 years it will be RM15k, RM13.5k (if after 72 months they give you 10% depreciation.

CIF value = RM13.5k + RM1.2k + RM202.5 = RM14.9k

Effective maximum tax (if it is 115.5%) = RM 17.2k, (if it is 150.25%) = RM22.39k...

You can appeal for further cuts... 30 to 40% more (of the effective tax) if you are lucky..

This also highly depends on the exchange rate. It would be much better if it is calculated based on AUD than Yen. The difference could be as much as 30% (Yen gain against AUD since Sep 08)

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Hi BeastX,
Thanks for your info. I noticed in page 6, there is a price lists from one of the bro here about types of car and CIF Value and the value of Honda JAzz 1.5cc VTEC is around RM41,627. Do you know what that means? also how come based on your computation the CIF is only $14,900? Is the one $41,627 stated in the price lists FOB Value? I'm a little confuse. Thanks once again for your help
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Hi BeastX,
  Thanks for your info. I noticed in page 6, there is a price lists from one of the bro here about types of car and CIF Value and the value of Honda JAzz 1.5cc VTEC is around RM41,627. Do you know what that means? also how come based on your computation the CIF is only $14,900? Is the one $41,627 stated in the price lists FOB Value? I'm a little confuse. Thanks once again for your help
Depreciation value applies to FOB (the RM 14.9k from 50k that I estimated). CIF is FOB plus the insurance and shipping. If CIF is that much lower already at RM41.6k (before depreciation). Then, your tax will be much lower that what I calculated.

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jan 18 2009, 08:06 AM)
Depreciation value applies to FOB (the RM 14.9k from 50k that I estimated). CIF is FOB plus the insurance and shipping. If CIF is that much lower already at RM41.6k (before depreciation). Then, your tax will be much lower that what I calculated.
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Thanks for your Info BeastX. I called up Cargo Online (www.cargoonline.com.au) and they sent me a quote based on my following info

Car type: Honda Jazz 1.5cc Auto
Year: 2003

They said they provide 2 different service. 1 is container and another one is RORO.

1) Container

Can load up stuffs into the car and outside the container

Costs
Container: USD1,205
Inland trucking to depot from metropolitan areas: A$180
Container loading and trucking to wharf: A$680
Original handling and port charges: A$454

This does not include insurance and got 2 options.

1) Total loss - 1.5% of the value you wish to cover + $50 processing fees (incuding theft, ship sinking, etc)
2) Full coverage - 2.5% of the value you wish to cover + $50 processing fees (same as above except it includes major dent, loss of parts but not covering minor damages)

2) RORO
Not allow to load stuffs into the car and only ship to Singapore

Costs
Container: USD1,090
Inland trucking to depot from metropolitan areas: A$200
Original handling and port charges: A$230

Insurance the same as above.

Based on my computation if i'm gonna take the container, it will costs me approx A$3,200 which is approx RM7,840 excluding insurance and charges on Port Klang. Do you guys think it's expensive?


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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 18 2009, 09:09 AM)
Based on my computation if i'm gonna take the container, it will costs me approx A$3,200 which is approx RM7,840 excluding insurance and charges on Port Klang. Do you guys think it's expensive?
That is quite a huge chunk of moolah for 20ft?... As a comparison...a 20ft from japan to Port Kelang is about RM4k (before Yen appreciated, about RM5k now).
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jan 18 2009, 09:53 AM)
That is quite a huge chunk of moolah for 20ft?... As a comparison...a 20ft from japan to Port Kelang is about RM4k (before Yen appreciated, about RM5k now).
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Hi, I thinking of bringing my Nissan Sentra to Penisular M'sia from Labuan. But, I still blur with all da taxation things even goin thru all tis thread posts... There r few questions:

1. Does da tax rate is fixed(for now)?
2. Where can get da taxation info on9? I go thru da custom website but end up with nth...
3. My car is ard 05/06 in age..how much does it cost? Shud it w8 for da 6th year?

notworthy.gif thx in advance for any answers..
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Depreciation cal. as of mid 08 (last year)... best time is 5 years...just above 60 months...
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Depreciation cal. as of mid 08 (last year)... best time is 5 years...just above 60 months...
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Hi BeastX,
Can we call custom malaysia and give them the detail to check out from them how much taxes and charges we need to pay before sending the car back? Cos based on my computation (also depending on the FOB Value at custom's price lists) and if their price lists is anything about RM50k i will be looking at around RM20-30k to bring back my honda jazz which is 6yrs old (also if it's not negotiable la). SO i just wanna get a quote from them first see can afford or not and then later stage when arrive, try to negotiate somemore. Hope you know what i mean. If yes, i will try call the custom malaysia up or if you have a specified number to call

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 19 2009, 04:38 AM)
Hi BeastX,
  Can we call custom malaysia and give them the detail to check out from them how much taxes and charges we need to pay before sending the car back? Cos based on my computation (also depending on the FOB Value at custom's price lists) and if their price lists is anything about RM50k i will be looking at around RM20-30k to bring back my honda jazz which is 6yrs old (also if it's not negotiable la). SO i just wanna get a quote from them first see can afford or not and then later stage when arrive, try to negotiate somemore. Hope you know what i mean. If yes, i will try call the custom malaysia up or if you have a specified number to call

Thanks
Cannot help you there, but you can try contacting them by phone on number listed on the website (Or friends/family can personally go to the Custom office). As Jazz is also sold by Honda Malaysia it should be quite straight forward.
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I called up the custom today at 03-8882 2346 and told me i need to pay effective tax rate of 150.25%. Didn't tell me exact figure and at what cost price. Not really helpful. She told me to submit my invoice? What invoice? I also don't know. I actually asked my father to call since i'm overseas. He also don't know much. SO complicated. Sigh...


Added on January 19, 2009, 6:00 pmHi All,
This is one of the runner from a company which quote me for bringing my honda jazz back

1. Custom Docket Price ( Yen 1,350,000 ) Rm 52,000.00
2. Custom Import Duty ( 30% ) Rm 15,600.00
3. Custom Exsais ( 60% ) Rm 40,560.00
4. Custom Sales Tax ( 10% ) Rm 10,816.00
5. Total Duty Rm 66,976.00

This is not including our local handling and local agency charges.

If you need more info please do not hesitate to contact us.

That is so expensive. How come he charges so expensive?

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 19 2009, 05:28 PM)
I called up the custom today at 03-8882 2346 and told me i need to pay effective tax rate of 150.25%. Didn't tell me exact figure and at what cost price. Not really helpful. She told me to submit my invoice? What invoice? I also don't know. I actually asked my father to call since i'm overseas. He also don't know much. SO complicated. Sigh...

Added on January 19, 2009, 6:00 pmHi All,
  This is one of the runner from a company which quote me for bringing my honda jazz back
1.    Custom Docket Price ( Yen  1,350,000 )    Rm 52,000.00   
2.    Custom Import Duty  ( 30% )                     Rm 15,600.00
3.    Custom Exsais ( 60% )                             Rm 40,560.00
4.    Custom Sales Tax ( 10% )                         Rm 10,816.00
5.    Total Duty                                               Rm  66,976.00
This is not including our local handling and local agency charges.
If you need more info please do not hesitate to contact us.
That is so expensive. How come he charges so expensive?
Wow... Jazz is a "cheap" car... in Yen (before Yen appreciated). It is really not a good time to bring in Jap. made car, with the current currency situation (as bad as the 97 eco. crisis)

See my estimate was about right on the Docket price. Anyway the runner calculation did not include the depreciation of FOB value

Let's see... If the rate excise (by the runner) is correct at 60% (and not 75%) the effective tax would be 128.8% (RM66.976k) and not 150.25% (see the large increase in discrepancy when excise duty includes import duty).

Runners may charge you a fee of up to RM2k for their service which includes applying to MITI, JPJ, Puspakom and such. You don't have to pay a cent, if you have time and do the procedures yourself (As I did). You only need RM2(I think) for the JK69 form, and fee for registration and testing (which would not be included in the runner's service) and about a day's time.

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Yeah...

I think he also did not deduct 15% off from the FOC price. I think he deduct the 15% from the 75%. that's why he got 60%. Also got another quote from a shipping company charging me AUD4,400 for shipping including 1 hour loading time. IF more than 1 hours charge AUD100 per hour. Even more expensive than my first quote.

Third. I try to get a quote from alliedpickford.com.my she said not advise me to bring back my car from overseas and gave me an attachment saying can't bring back car > 5yrs so i told her it's common with ppl with AP permit. SHe said she will check out the AP permit things and get back to me. She will need someone to come to my house to measure my car waa...


Added on January 20, 2009, 4:03 amHi BeastX,
I believe you have shipped your car from overseas to Malaysia last year before right? Can you tell me what is the process you did? Like once you get your AP permit, what you do next?

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Third. I try to get a quote from alliedpickford.com.my she said not advise me to bring back my car from overseas and gave me an attachment saying can't bring back car > 5yrs so i told her it's common with ppl with AP permit. SHe said she will check out the AP permit things and get back to me. She will need someone to come to my house to measure my car waa...
  I believe you have shipped your car from overseas to Malaysia last year before right? Can you tell me what is the process you did? Like once you get your AP permit, what you do next?
Why is there a need for measurements, go to Honda.com.my and all the measurement are there. Private ownership (non commercial) you can bring in a car as old as you want.

Ok... my process
1. Get necessary documents needed by MITI as listed on their site. Make sure you copy down the chassis and engine No.
2. Send car by container, made sure you have ample of time to return to Malaysia and settle the AP application. You may ask the shipping company to hold on for a better/suitable date to ship you container.
3. Send-in your application when you arrive in Malaysia while you container maybe in transit in the ocean/seas. By right it should only take 1 week to process your application, but mine took about 3 weeks.
4. You should have a "bill of Landings" (from the shipping company), List of things, and your AP.... hand it over to a forwarder company which you hire, which handles the port landings/custom/handling/trailer truck and such. They will inform you the tax needed to be paid, as calculated by the custom office, with this document head to the custom office to appeal for a further reduction, uses your best excuses (currency appreciation/student and such), you should get some further discount. Settle the tax/duty your container will be released. All other things other than the car should be tax free.... so import as many Aussie stuff as the container can handle, big stuff may need 3/6 months of prove of purchase.
5. The forwarder should return your AP when you collect your car/stuff, you will need a temporary plate (to legally) drive you car to Puspakom. Go to JPJ/Puspakom to get your vehicle registered with the necessary with documentation (including the AP). The AP will be collected/returned to JPJ when you register you vehicle. Pay insurance, road tax and get the car plate done and you can drive the car within the day (as I did).

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Thanks BeastX,
Can i know which forwarder that you use to handle your issue in Port Klang? How much he charge you? Maybe i can use him/her as well? Hehe...
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Thanks BeastX,
  Can i know which forwarder that you use to handle your issue in Port Klang? How much he charge you? Maybe i can use him/her as well? Hehe...
My 40ft container's final destination is in KK, North Borneo with the forwarder based there.... They charged me about RM1k ++. Maybe friends/family/forumers with Port Kelang experience/contact can help you...
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Hey, BeastX,
Are you from KK? I'm from KK too. LEts hope we are not from the same school.. MAybe we actually know each other le.. haahah


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I live in Thailand and have a vintage car I would like to bring over, but the import tax to Thailand is 300% based on whatever they think the car is worth.

It looks like bringing it to Malaysia, and then getting a visa for it at the Thai Malay border may be an option for me - the car "visa" lasts upto 6 months and I dont have to take the car out of Thailand to get it renewed.

I was wondering if its plausible to get a Malay citizen, agency or company to import it for me? Theres a lot of posts on this thread - sorry if I missed something and my question doesnt make sense.

The car is a 1979 Chevvy Corvette (30 years old), its 350ci (5.7 litres) its in "as new" condition. I dont know if I can find the original purchase price - but it would be quite low, like $5,000USD or something silly like that. Current value in Australia is about $30k USD. Would it really be depreciated at 30 years do you think? If depreciation applies then the tax should be faily low - I tried to follw the posts, but got a bit confused about whether all the tax is reduced or just part of it, so I cant figure out what the expected tax should be

In Thailand they dont let you know how they estimate the cars value - its totally unknown until the inspectors see it - so theres no way I would import to Thailand directly.

Any feedback would be very appreciated.
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Hi,

I am thinking of bringing back a 2007 X5 3.0 from Canada to Malaysia. I am currently in Canada and will be going back to Malaysia next year. Do I need to complete the JK69 form now and get it endorsed at MITI (which will become a personal AP) before coming back to Malaysia? or all these can be done once I am back in Malaysia, but the car would have already been on its way to Port Klang?

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QUOTE(zemmhassim @ Jan 24 2009, 01:28 AM)
Hi,
I am thinking of bringing back a 2007 X5 3.0 from Canada to Malaysia. I am currently in Canada and will be going back to Malaysia next year. Do I need to complete the JK69 form now and get it endorsed at MITI (which will become a personal AP) before coming back to Malaysia? or all these can be done once I am back in Malaysia, but the car would have already been on its way to Port Klang?
Thanks.
Sure, the process should take a week, you can apply while it is in transit, the sooner the better, be fore-warned the tax is 221.75% x 3 years depreciation (unless the change the tax rate before/at 2010). ... but I bet your X5 being a left hand drive will be inconvenient in Malaysia.

221.75%.... almost(more) like you pay the price of 3 cars for 1.

If you have a spouse working in canada (proof of employment), you can get another car imported.


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QUOTE(Amagnon @ Jan 23 2009, 06:10 PM)
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I was wondering if its plausible to get a Malay citizen, agency or company to import it for me?  Theres a lot of posts on this thread - sorry if I missed something and my question doesnt make sense.
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One thing to point out, the car brought in through personal AP needs to be under the AP applicant's name for 2 years before any transfer is allowed..

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One thing to point out, the car brought in through personal AP needs to be under the AP applicant's name for 2 years before any transfer is allowed..
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Thanks for the respsonse, I am running out of options - I love my car, and dont want to sell it, but it seems like getting it here is going to be extremely expensive and difficult ><
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QUOTE(Amagnon @ Jan 25 2009, 06:54 PM)
Thanks for the respsonse, I am running out of options - I love my car, and dont want to sell it, but it seems like getting it here is going to be extremely expensive and difficult ><
A 30 years old car have very little tax on it in Malaysia.... depreciation over 30 years... is about only 2.4% or the original cost (brand new in 1979) left for FOB value. Rough calculation... as US 5k is much higher in 1979 than now... The tax in Malaysia should be only about US300...

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I should have been more specific... use my calculations on post 66 on page 4..
There is no made in Japan (25% cut, but a 15% "keuntungan peralihan" cut)
The last part on Effective tax can be disputed, it is either 115.5% or 150.25%(as stated)

If your FOB value is RM 50k (estimate), after 6 years it will be RM15k, RM13.5k (if after 72 months they give you 10% depreciation.

CIF value = RM13.5k + RM1.2k + RM202.5 = RM14.9k

Effective maximum tax (if it is 115.5%) = RM 17.2k, (if it is 150.25%) =  RM22.39k...

You can appeal for further cuts... 30 to 40% more (of the effective tax) if you are lucky..

This also highly depends on the exchange rate. It would be much better if it is calculated based on AUD than Yen. The difference could be as much as 30% (Yen gain against AUD since Sep 08)
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How do you get the FOB value for Jazz rm50k , market price is rm85k ?
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QUOTE(emanresu @ Jan 26 2009, 02:56 PM)
How do you get the FOB value for Jazz rm50k , market price is rm85k ?
Bro...Langkawi is only RM65k...In Japan, before the appreciation of yen, it is only RM40k (with Honda still making profit)... FOB value is always lower than the retail value in Langkawi by around 15% to 20%....
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Seriously...

now i dunt know how to calculate it cause after reading all of those comment,i'm so confuse wif it *sigh*

need help then wif the calculation..

ok,here we go the example n hope that u guys can help me..

lets say i live at australia,WA for 3 years , and bought a car for at least 2 years old already..
can u calculate for me ? owh owh, and can any1 calculate if i bought the car for at least 3 years ?

the car is 2nd hand and it cost like AUSD 19000 = RM 45000

its a 1996 japanese car , 4 cylinder Petrol Turbo 2.0L (1998cc)

hope that thats help,if not,pls do let me know watelse i need to give the detail. thankx
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QUOTE(FOX_HOUND @ Jan 26 2009, 07:42 PM)
Seriously...

now i dunt know how to calculate it cause after reading all of those comment,i'm so confuse wif it *sigh*

need help then wif the calculation..

ok,here we go the example n hope that u guys can help me..

lets say i live at australia,WA for 3 years , and bought a car for at least 2 years old already..
can u calculate for me ? owh owh, and can any1 calculate if i bought the car for at least 3 years ?

the car is 2nd hand and it cost like AUSD 19000 = RM 45000

its a 1996 japanese car , 4 cylinder Petrol Turbo 2.0L (1998cc)

hope that thats help,if not,pls do let me know watelse i need to give the detail. thankx
13 years depreciation is comes to roughly 12.91% of the car value left. Lets say the car value is RM65k* in 1996... in 2009, it depreciated to 8.4k (FOB), CIF is roughly RM 9.7k, effective tax is 150.25% ..... so your tax should be at RM14.57k

*The big if on the car value (a Subaru WRX or Evo??)...
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13 years depreciation is comes to roughly 12.91% of the car value left. Lets say the car value is RM65k* in 1996... in 2009, it depreciated to 8.4k (FOB), CIF is roughly RM 9.7k, effective tax is 150.25% ..... so your tax should be at RM14.57k

*The big if on the car value (a Subaru WRX or Evo??)...
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cooolll..plus cargo n everything..think that still within budget :-P n cheaper than buying 2nd here..hehehe..
well..wanted to get impreza sti but couldnt effort 2 buy so, evo is my only option left.like the old evo but dislike the new new evo n vice versa for the impreza :-)

but wat ever it is,thankx for your help,glad that u could help me wif the calculation :-)
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Can please check and see whether my calc is correct or not.

Audi TT 1.8l 12 months rm150k EU

-15% = 127k
-25% = 95k
CIF max 100k

100k x 157.4% = 157k total tax??

That's almost like buying a new TT in msia, or did i do something wrong there? Can get cheaper or not? If not then I'll buy it in msia only lol.

Off topic : Is it possible to change from left hand drive to right hand drive? if yes around how much would it cost?

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C I B A I... kastam!!!

With all those paramount value, the revenue made them pay for the `submarine`...`iskandar`...`renovation on theirs' house`...fk it.

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hi bro,... wanna ask... if my sis now study at aus for few year ed... if she bought a car there... nex time when she move back to malaysia... how can she send the car back also ? need 300% tax also mea ? smile.gif
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So after reading this forum for almost 1 hour, can someone please answer this simple question: DOES IT MEAN IT IS NOT WORTH IT TO IMPORT CAR BACK FROM UK?


I keep planning to buy this Porsche Cayman, second hand is £20k, brand new is £40k. (exchange rate now is x5.2) It is a 2007 year model with 2.7 Liter

How much will the tax work out to bring this back to my beloved country of Malaysia? I am crap with numbers, please please help...

I am so sad now..... listen to my friend and thought got an AP in a lifetime means it will be cheap.

I got a 2004 RX 8 now, it is only 1.3 (bought it for £5k only, new one will be £18k), will this car be worth it to bring back Msia?

Thanks for your help.

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QUOTE(guyver88 @ Jan 31 2009, 07:30 PM)
So after reading this forum for almost 1 hour, can someone please answer this simple question: DOES IT MEAN IT IS NOT WORTH IT TO IMPORT CAR BACK FROM UK?
I keep planning to buy this Porsche Cayman, second hand is £20k, brand new is £40k.  (exchange rate now is x5.2) It is a 2007 year model with 2.7 Liter

How much will the tax work out to bring this back to my beloved country of Malaysia? I am crap with numbers, please please help...

I am so sad now..... listen to my friend and thought got an AP in a lifetime means it will be cheap.

I got a 2004 RX 8 now, it is only 1.3 (bought it for £5k only, new one will be £18k), will this car be worth it to bring back Msia?

Thanks for your help.
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heard that coupe-car tax is higher. if 2004 model maybe around rm50k.
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QUOTE(guyver88 @ Jan 31 2009, 06:30 PM)
So after reading this forum for almost 1 hour, can someone please answer this simple question: DOES IT MEAN IT IS NOT WORTH IT TO IMPORT CAR BACK FROM UK?
I keep planning to buy this Porsche Cayman, second hand is £20k, brand new is £40k.  (exchange rate now is x5.2) It is a 2007 year model with 2.7 Liter

How much will the tax work out to bring this back to my beloved country of Malaysia? I am crap with numbers, please please help...

I am so sad now..... listen to my friend and thought got an AP in a lifetime means it will be cheap.

I got a 2004 RX 8 now, it is only 1.3 (bought it for £5k only, new one will be £18k), will this car be worth it to bring back Msia?

Thanks for your help.
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ur name 88 means u are 1988 year born ? shocking.gif and u are thinking of importing cayman and RX8 ?? rclxub.gif wat job u do bro
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Hi just thinking to bring back Mercedes C200K 2001 home in June2009, how much it'll be tax (student AP) from UK. And any recommend agent? (just want make it easy for me - no need to deal with typical malaysian corporate bureaucracy)..smile.gif..
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QUOTE(jie20022002 @ Jan 30 2009, 06:03 AM)
Can please check and see whether my calc is correct or not.

Audi TT 1.8l 12 months rm150k EU

-15% = 127k
-25% = 95k
CIF max 100k

100k x 157.4% = 157k total tax??

That's almost like buying a new TT in msia, or did i do something wrong there? Can get cheaper or not? If not then I'll buy it in msia only lol.

Off topic : Is it possible to change from left hand drive to right hand drive? if yes around how much would it cost?
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Aiyaa no one reply to this one ke?

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QUOTE(jie20022002 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:07 PM)
Aiyaa no one reply to this one ke?
More or less that... could be slightly less tax, but your need probably at least rm5k more for transport..
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Hi , im wanting to import a 1969 Chevrolet Corvette , which is quite old now lol , and it cost around RM 7k , but the shipment to Kelang port is 7 k also , so how much will Gov Tax me ? and anyone know how to do the registration ? do i nid 1 ? hmmmm NID help plz .... wuwuwu big factor after reading all those post.... sighed
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QUOTE(jon1989 @ Feb 7 2009, 02:59 AM)
Hi , im wanting to import a 1969 Chevrolet Corvette , which is quite old now lol , and it cost around RM 7k , but the shipment to Kelang port is 7 k also , so how much will Gov Tax me ? and anyone know how to do the registration ? do i nid 1 ? hmmmm NID help plz .... wuwuwu big factor after reading all those post.... sighed
after 40 years the tax will be miniscule compared to the shipping cost, the trouble is obtaining the AP (if you have not stayed overseas in the country that you are trying to import for at least 1 year) ...

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AP for that country ? i tot AP is only for malaysia ? What is AP actually ? Blur**
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"Approved Permit", a piece of paper that gives you the right to import things into Malaysia. There are people making straight profits just for selling these "Permits" that they essentially gotten for free, hence the "AP Kings".

However a Malaysia staying abroad (in a foreign country, does not apply to Singapore/Thai/Indonesia) for more than a year can qualify of a once-in-a-lifetime AP to import a car that he/she owned for more than 9 months (in that country).. In which you only need to pay for the application form of probably RM2.50.

Other than that, it will be hard for the ordinary public to obtain an AP to import vehicle.. The monopoly AP holders/individuals may charge tens-of-thousands RM to sell you an AP.

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QUOTE(tkt @ Feb 8 2009, 08:22 PM)
http://www.kastamselangor.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=69
The AP info is correct..., but the tax calculation is way way out dated...... refer to my posts (#66) and calcom21's #188

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I need to bring in a car from SG to Malaysia as my sister no longer work in sg soon. She has a PR there and even nearly become a citizen. But now she wan to balik Msia already. Heard that it's quite troublesome to bring in sg car to malaysia.

I heard that sg car have no validity in Malaysia. So better that if she drive in Msia without convert to Msia plate. She will still pay insurance and road tax there. Is it adviseable and more economi to do that>?

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I own a BMW 530d (Turbo diesel), apart from ALL the hassles of importing. I also wondered can this diesel engine car consume Malaysia diesel, any conversion or modification needed? since most diesel-powered vehicles in Malaysia are those heavy duty types, e.g. lorry, truck, van, bus ... even boat.

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I own a BMW 530d (Turbo diesel), apart from ALL the hassles of importing. I also wondered can this diesel engine car consume Malaysia diesel, any conversion or modification needed? since most diesel-powered vehicles in Malaysia are those heavy duty types, e.g. lorry, truck, van, bus ... even boat.
Engines that are tune to Euro 4 or 5 standard diesel, will be hard to run on Malaysian's barely Euro 2, diesel, most likely part to fail will be the pump and/or the diesel injectors, they need to be more robust, and not cheap to get/replace.

The new high torque Nissan Navara 4-cylinder 2.5L engine (4x4, dual-cab pick-up) beats your Euro 6-cylinder 3L's torque output.. but, loose to it in terms of bhp...
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o.O based on the depretiation on post 188 this is my calculation.. i from Sydney btw..

just reached here.. plan to get a car.. and bring back to malaysia i'll be here for at least 2 years...its a 2.5L

say lexus is250 about high 50's and low 60s so we take 60k aud for ez counting
aud60k * 2.3 = Rm138,000

Rm138,000 - 24%=Rm104880

Rm104880 * 200* (for both duties) = RM314,640 b4 transport charges

note: I remember last time there is a rule for students driving their car in overseas for more then 1/2 years is eligible to bring back their vehicle for no tax/duties..?? does it still applies today?? judging by all the calculations and questions here it does not... the rule is abolished ?
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QUOTE(yOuNg$tEr @ Feb 14 2009, 08:34 AM)
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Rm104880 * 200* (for both duties) = RM314,640 b4 transport charges
Effective tax should be... 171.70%... for RM 180,078.96 (if the CIF value is priced at RM 104,880).. A 2 year old car value would have depreciated and bring the CIF value to a modest RM 50 to 60k... and be tax at about RM90 to 100k (with the current tax system, which may be revised in the coming 2 years)

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o.O.. so total i pay 285000 for the car.. if i wanna bring back.. hmm.. could be taken in consideration XD
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Has anyone bring one back from UK? please share your experience.
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hei there beastx.i have been following this thread and reading through it, i just couldn't wrap my head around it rclxub.gif ..i tried looking it up online and learning a bout the tax and the duties imposed on the importing a car, but just couldnt get any concrete lead doh.gif. if you know any websites or stating the examption of taxes on a malaysian made car. by the way i am studying in the UK and what if i would get a jap car say like it is 18 years old, how Would it effect the tax and duties, what i had in mind is a nissan 200sx drool.gif

thanks a million
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QUOTE(metalworm86 @ Feb 27 2009, 01:13 AM)
hei there beastx.i have been following this thread and reading through it, i just couldn't wrap my head around it rclxub.gif ..i tried looking it up online and learning a bout the tax and the duties imposed on the importing a car, but just couldnt get any concrete lead doh.gif. if you know any websites or stating the examption of taxes on a malaysian made car. by the way i am studying in the UK and what if i would get a jap car say like it is 18 years old, how Would it effect the tax and duties, what i had in mind is a nissan 200sx drool.gif

thanks a million
The nissan is a 1.8/2.0L ?

18 years.... roughly only 7.6% of the FOB value left, Say the car cost RM50k... only the value of RM3.8k left.

CIF value is roughly RM 5.5k....

Effective tax roughly... will then be 157.4% (for 2L) x CIF = RM8.66k
........................................ 150.25% (for the 1.8L) x CIF = RM8.26k

You can appeal for more tax cuts... value is highly dependent to on the currency x-rates of the country... the nissan 200sx could be a England/Euro model which is at a low now compare to the Japanese Yen
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thanks again for the info rclxms.gif ....greatly appreciate it...yet to decide on wheather to get the 2.0 or the 1.8 type...will keep ya posted when i have gotten the car....thanks again...

cheers
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Hi, I'll be qualified to bring back max. 2 imported cars under "PROGRAMS TO ENCOURAGE MALAYSIAN CITIZENS WITH EXPERTISE RESIDING OVERSEAS TO RETURN TO MALAYSIA".

Just want to know more about the car I can bring back, e.g. age, cc, fuel type (heard Malaysian diesel is not compatible with that in the UK), etc

any information is much appreciated. Regards


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QUOTE(ch15 @ Mar 6 2009, 08:06 PM)
Hi, I'll be qualified to bring back max. 2 imported cars under "PROGRAMS TO ENCOURAGE MALAYSIAN CITIZENS WITH EXPERTISE RESIDING OVERSEAS TO RETURN TO MALAYSIA".

Just want to know more about the car I can bring back, e.g. age, cc, fuel type (heard Malaysian diesel is not compatible with that in the UK), etc

any information is much appreciated. Regards
Bring whatever you can afford and as new as possible (as there is no tax) or buy here in Malaysia without tax... Malaysia Diesel is barely Euro 2 standard and will be required to be euro 2 standard sometime this year
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QUOTE(metalworm86 @ Feb 27 2009, 11:58 PM)
beastiex

thanks again for the info rclxms.gif ....greatly appreciate it...yet to decide on wheather to get the 2.0 or the 1.8 type...will keep ya posted when i have gotten the car....thanks again...

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if i have not mistaken no tax difference between 2.0cc and 1.8cc as it is rated such:
1.6cc and below-->150%
2.0cc-1.8cc-->157%
cant recall the remaining tho

i think in your case the depreciation method will be taken into account since the latter method is likely to be "under-valued"??(the custom said this wth)


your nissan would be sweet but the tax will include the shipping cost as well, not sure how its calculated, but yeah just got my car sorted out and the tax is car value+shipping cost(something like that)...based on my experience thats the way it is.
but dont worry since it is 18years the tax will be at most 10k...but im pretty sure it will be way below that coz mine is 19years lol and still sweet roaming in Malaysia (mileage just 145k so i think yours may be around this figure)

just sharing my experience

btw about the expertise programme...man, u gotta find the sweetest car around, if ive not mistaken there will be no tax geezzz...how about merc slk230 haha...i wish i were in that position lol..go to MITI website for the details
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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Mar 7 2009, 08:39 PM)
if i have not mistaken no tax difference between 2.0cc and 1.8cc as it is rated such:
1.6cc and below-->150%
2.0cc-1.8cc-->157%
cant recall the remaining tho
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The cut off is at 1.8L and below will have the lowest tax... a 1.8L engine will be 1.79xxL (below 1.8L) a 1.6/1.5/1.0 or even 850cc all will be at the same tax bracket as a 1.8L engine (150.25%)

QUOTE(graham_flag)
i think in your case the depreciation method will be taken into account since the latter method is likely to be "under-valued"??(the custom said this wth)
your nissan would be sweet but the tax will include the shipping cost as well, not sure how its calculated, but yeah just got my car sorted out and the tax is car value+shipping cost(something like that)...based on my experience thats the way it is.
but dont worry since it is 18years the tax will be at most 10k...but im pretty sure it will be way below that coz mine is 19years lol and still sweet roaming in Malaysia (mileage just 145k so i think yours may be around this figure)

just sharing my experience
So you did not appeal for a further cut? Same nissan? Shipping is RM1200 from Australia.. So even your car (1.8L) is worth RM0, You still need to pay the minimal RM1803.

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 7 2009, 09:07 PM)
The cut off is at 1.8L and below will have the lowest tax... a 1.8L engine will be 1.79xxL (below 1.8L) a 1.6/1.5/1.0 or even 850cc all will be at the same tax bracket as a 1.8L engine (150.25%)

QUOTE(graham_flag)
i think in your case the depreciation method will be taken into account since the latter method is likely to be "under-valued"??(the custom said this wth)
your nissan would be sweet but the tax will include the shipping cost as well, not sure how its calculated, but yeah just got my car sorted out and the tax is car value+shipping cost(something like that)...based on my experience thats the way it is.
but dont worry since it is 18years the tax will be at most 10k...but im pretty sure it will be way below that coz mine is 19years lol and still sweet roaming in Malaysia (mileage just 145k so i think yours may be around this figure)

just sharing my experience
So you did not appeal for a further cut? Same nissan? Shipping is RM1200 from Australia.. So even your car (1.8L) is worth RM0, You still need to pay the minimal RM1803.
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i did appeal, however now the appealing process is kinda strict and can only be approved by head of custom of the state (which ketua kastam selangor in wesport for my case)or the putrajaya headquaters and got it sorted successfully...btw mine is toyota..i reckon tax value between 18 and 19 years old car does not differ quite much...

let say the shipping cost is rm1200, im pretty sure you not paying rm1803 for the tax, it will be way lesser than than haha!..if in your case of a nissan worth rm0(someone gave it to you maybe), custom will use the depreciation method coz as ive been told the tax will be never gone to rm0
ive been looking for my tax calculation method by the custom but i think they took it for the clearance purpose at northport wth (they wrote it at the back of the K1 form)

btw anyone interested in bringing car back from japan?.. pm me and i would help for the tips and info, but in exchange of a bandai gundam unicorn mg and a bandai flag 1/100 hahahaha =p lol (i did all the AP-K1-Tax Appeal-Puspakom-JPJ paperworks myself and only used agent for the port handling and container)

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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Mar 8 2009, 09:57 AM)
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let say the shipping cost is rm1200, im pretty sure you not paying rm1803 for the tax, it will be way lesser than than haha!..if in your case of a nissan worth rm0(someone gave it to you maybe), custom will use the depreciation method coz as ive been told the tax will be never gone to rm0
ive been looking for my tax calculation method by the custom but i think they took it for the clearance purpose at northport wth (they wrote it at the back of the K1 form)

btw anyone interested in bringing car back from japan?..
The shipping is fixed for the calculation of the CIF value, Aus/NZ/Japan is fixed at RM1200... The depreciation is calculated to the FOB value which will never reach zero... My statement is to show you the fixed cost (shipping) from the overall tax no matter what car/"years old" you bring back.

Did me Appeal/AP permit/JPJ/Puspakom myself too (Car from Japan too)....

to bring only MGs??... PGs better... with the new one to be released at the end of this month....

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QUOTE(limpuah @ Mar 8 2009, 01:02 PM)
but when u bring back your car, does ur car tax gets deducted from that country?

let say u buy car from uk , u pay tax there, later u bring back ur car , also kena tax back here. means paying tax for both country. is it? or u buy car in uk without tax , bring back only kena tax?
You pay twice.... though other countries' tax is miniscule compared to Malaysia's
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 8 2009, 07:07 PM)
You pay twice.... though other countries' tax is miniscule compared to Malaysia's
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well for my case, i didnt pay any tax when shipping out from the country and only got taxed in M'sia (2nd hand car maa)
on second thought yes i did get taxed twice if you are considering IF the car just arrives to the country (in GST maybe) and then gets taxed in Malaysia (AP) cry.gif ..anyone,do get me?
BTW yes BeastX i get you regarding the CIF value (it is really a pain in the ass tho) and you are right! rclxm9.gif
but when i recall the process, the custom officer did write something about the shipping cost which is something from usd seafreight whatsoever then he converted to RM, then he added to the total tax. and i didnt pay attention really much tho. oh well wth cant be bothered... whistling.gif

metalworm86, check how much is the car in malaysia, check whether it has 2nd hand value then have a deep thought..for my case i find it really worth bringing it back...some car have outstanding high 2nd hand values even tho they are aging!
owh PG will soon come out? hmm, PGs too big, i prefer MG tho-just nice for display!

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I know the newer the better, that means more expensive too. I meant to ask how 'old' of the car I can bring in? I heard max 5 year-old? and have owned the car at least 9 months prior to export.

is there such thing?

if so, I have to buy 1, 2 now, then keep it for 9 months. Question is, how old is allowed? Cheers

any info is appreciated.


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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 7 2009, 10:20 AM)
Bring whatever you can afford and as new as possible (as there is no tax) or buy here in Malaysia without tax... Malaysia Diesel is barely Euro 2 standard and will be required to be euro 2 standard sometime this year
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QUOTE(ch15 @ Mar 12 2009, 05:56 AM)
I know the newer the better, that means more expensive too. I meant to ask how 'old' of the car I can bring in? I heard max 5 year-old? and have owned the car at least 9 months prior to export.
is there such thing?
if so, I have to buy 1, 2 now, then keep it for 9 months. Question is, how old is allowed? Cheers
any info is appreciated.
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The 5 year old limit is imposed on car dealears, ordinary citizen can bring-in cars as old as they like (even the 1900s, 100+ years old).

I do not think they would imposed the 9 months requirement on the tax free car, you may need to call up MITI to confirm, as they are the ones to issue the AP

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see many people asking for how to calculate the tax, I have developed a Kastam tax calculator .Maybe BeastX can verify the method of calculation.

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hi guys, following this forum for quite some time.... as im as well trying to bring back a car back...
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im not sure whether any of us had published this b4, but you all might like this....

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I am still slightly confused after reading through everything..hands down to all those that understood the system *power*. So anyway, i hope you kind folks can help me out with this ..i need a rough estimation.. Lets say i m buying an RX-7 spirit r-a (2002) with an FOB of 3,000,000.00 JPY from jp and import it to australia as first owner @ 43,770 AUD (landed and compiled). Will be applying as student and have met all the requirements so how much tax am i looking at to get the car back.

rx-7 with a year model 2002 and a 1.3CC with an FOB of 3million yen @ 43770 AUD.

Thanks in advance smile.gif icon_question.gif

Experts such as beastx please help wub.gif

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QUOTE(mazspeed @ Mar 25 2009, 06:55 AM)
rx-7 with a year model 2002 and a 1.3CC with an FOB of 3million yen @ 43770 AUD.

Thanks in advance smile.gif icon_question.gif

Experts such as beastx please help  wub.gif
Ok let me take crack at it (being generous), nice RX-7... limited/special/last edition??... know a Jap in KK with one.. 1.3L has the lowest tax bracket

Though value of yen was very high for 4 months and drop to USD level recently, value will most likely based on Yen not AUD

3 million... minus 15% earnings etc etc ... 2.55 million left.

6 years depreciation only 27% left = 688.5k Yen = FOB value = RM25.46k

CIF value = RM25.46k + RM 1.2k (fr. AUS) + RM 382 (insurance) = RM27.04k

Effective Tax... 150.25%= RM 40.63k (Max should pay tax)..... Appeal, and you might get up to 30 to 40% lower, (highly dependent on your persuasion or the mood of the custom officer)

mid 2008 tax rates

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yeh last production flag model rx-7. hehe.. 41k RM ...persuasion means kopi time. haha thanks beastx smile.gif!! will the tax rates drop after june/july this year ? i heard the import tax is dropping after june.

once again thank you =D
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tax cut after june? why? proton and perodua have grown stronger during this economic recession period? or recommended by topgear eh lol
kopi? see how you deal with ketua kastam negeri then u know how easy the 'kopi' looks like lol, unless know know him beforehand as relative or whatsoever, then kopi will turn to cappucino lol, maybe starbucks
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BeastX,

I have been following this thread from begining till the end and must say kudos for the very good info but for the life of me cannot understand the workings of our malaysian customs.

Import Tax - is a boundrary tax levied on stuff brought in
Excise Tax - is a hate tax levied on abusive stuff that hurt the country(this i understand is to protect our proton)
Sales Tax - For items sold by vendor as a taxation to the goverment.

Having stated that, how in gods name have our wonderful KASTAM managed to charge tax in a compounded manner and not by the basis of individual taxes to be subjected to the principal amount i.e. the price of the car? What i mean here is after they attain the Import tax, they + the import tax to the value of the car to get the excise tax and then + Import & Excise to the value of the car to get the sales tax.

This is compounded taxing whereby your tax is taxed again!

To add spice to this arguement - what in the hell is sales tax? Where was there any sale taken place in this entire process?

For those few that have posted stating "do they pay tax in 2 countries" yes you do if the country of origin has impose a tax on the car at original purchase. In some civiled country you can request for a tax rebate to the customs when you have deregister your car and have exported it. This is should be done at the country of origin and the would have a list similar to the depreciation value like we have working backwards. Nobody will tell you this and there is no forms to fill. You have to write an appeal letter for consideration.

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QUOTE(miata @ Mar 26 2009, 11:05 AM)
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Having stated that, how in gods name have our wonderful KASTAM managed to charge tax in a compounded manner and not by the basis of individual taxes to be subjected to the principal amount i.e. the price of the car? What i mean here is after they attain the Import tax, they + the import tax to the value of the car to get the excise tax and then + Import & Excise to the value of the car to get the sales tax.

This is compounded taxing whereby your tax is taxed again!

To add spice to this arguement - what in the hell is sales tax? Where was there any sale taken place in this entire process?
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The first time I experince/was informed about the compounded tax system in the custom office last year. All postings prior to 2006 new tax structure (by seniors or examples shown on the web) and calculations shown by custom own website do not show the compounded tax (The sales tax, however still applies to both taxes plus fob value).

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From you statement i guess you agree that the tax computation are compounded values that have been provided?

I think the sales tax should only apply to vendors i.e. NAZA, BERMAS etc as they bring in the cars for the sole purpose of immediate sale.
While we as citizen are bringing back the car for personal consumption to which we cannot resale immediately due to AP stipulations and furthermore they are personal effects from country of origin.

What is this sales tax? Is our KASTAM job being taxed for their sales & services?
Are we as citizens being conned here just because we don't ask what we are paying for???????

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They are just forcing you to buy a proton/perodua ... true story.
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Erm.. I'm still having trouble to estimate the tax. Say i gonna import a honda s2000 frm nz, wat's the tax i need to pay provided the initial price was 79k nzd x 2 = rm158k at 10 years ago? I bought it for 19k nzd over here.
Also, as it is made in jp, so it is entitle for the rebate of 25% off the new price?

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Thanks for the good info. here, esp BeastX.

Some questions:
1. How does Kastam check docket price for the car?
Do they follow the model of the car on the registration document from overseas?
Or do they crosscheck manufacturer database with the VIN/chassis no. or engine no?

2. And how does JPJ verify the car?
Do they crosscheck engine no. with the manufacturer database or do they just follow the AP document?

Would appreciate very much anyone who can help, esp. those who have recently imported their cars.

Thank you.
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QUOTE(gobiz @ Mar 31 2009, 03:53 AM)
Thanks for the good info. here, esp BeastX.
Some questions:
1. How does Kastam check docket price for the car?
Do they follow the model of the car on the registration document from overseas?
Or do they crosscheck manufacturer database with the VIN/chassis no. or engine no?
2. And how does JPJ verify the car?
Do they crosscheck engine no. with the manufacturer database or do they just follow the AP document?
Would appreciate very much anyone who can help, esp. those who have recently imported their cars.
Thank you.
1. Custom office have their own car price list reference. Overseas registration and de-registration of the car is required for the AP application. I do not think they check. You need to state your chasis ans engino no. when you submit your AP application.

2. JPJ would need puspakom to verify the chasis and engine No. as stated on the AP form. The AP form is collected back by JPJ as you register your car. You'll need the AP to pass the port and custom (make sure you collect it back for JPJ).


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Erm.. I'm still having trouble to estimate the tax. Say i gonna import a honda s2000 frm nz, wat's the tax i need to pay provided the initial price was 79k nzd x 2 = rm158k at 10 years ago? I bought it for 19k nzd over here.
Also, as it is made in jp, so it is entitle for the rebate of 25% off the new price?
Price use for estimate is the selling price 10 years ago. In Japan, I think the S2000 is much less than RM158k. Not a rebate, but a price reduction of the reference docking price, I got a 15% reduction for my Jap made car.

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QUOTE(OOOOPP! @ Mar 29 2009, 08:32 PM)
Erm.. I'm still having trouble to estimate the tax. Say i gonna import a honda s2000 frm nz, wat's the tax i need to pay provided the initial price was 79k nzd x 2 = rm158k at 10 years ago? I bought it for 19k nzd over here.
Also, as it is made in jp, so it is entitle for the rebate of 25% off the new price?
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so you are from nz? which port are you leaving? Lyttleton? Auckland?

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 31 2009, 06:30 AM)
1. Custom office have their own car price list reference. Overseas registration and de-registration of the car is required for the AP application. I do not think they check. You need to state your chasis ans engino no. when you submit your AP application.

2. JPJ would need puspakom to verify the chasis and engine No. as stated on the AP form. The AP form is collected back by JPJ as you register your car. You'll need the AP to pass the port and custom (make sure you collect it back for JPJ).
Thanks BeastX and also to graham_flag,

So they all do it based on details on the overseas registration form?

Just considering this as overseas registration form is quite easy to 'amend' (they are not as strict as JPJ).

So would it be possible to declare, for example a M3 as a normal 3-series? The overseas registration just mention the car as a BMW 3-series.

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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Mar 31 2009, 11:01 AM)
so you are from nz? which port are you leaving? Lyttleton? Auckland?
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Lyttleton. I'm living in christchurch.
Hmm.. I donno the actual price of a 99' s2k in japan. Anyone here knows the price or any chance to get the pricelist from the custom?
It would b great if it was <= rm120k.

Also, is the percentage to win appeal high? Wat reasons shd i giv to appeal for tax reduction?

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Lyttleton. I'm living in christchurch.
Hmm.. I donno the actual price of a 99' s2k in japan. Anyone here knows the price or any chance to get the pricelist from the custom?
It would b great if it was <= rm120k.

Also, is the percentage to win appeal high? Wat reasons shd i giv to appeal for tax reduction?
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Hey! I stayed in Chch for 3 years... are you in Canterbury uni? I used to stay at Whiteleigh Ave./Addington Rd.
I still have friends over there.

Check out page 10-11 for a link to the pricelist.

To appeal, you must be very persistent. And humble.

What's the price of an R34 GTR over there currently?

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hey you can always check on trademe lol
i was from canty haha kinda chch reunion eh?
hold on gobiz, was it you who brought home the skyline?
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Graham and gobiz, were u guys studying in uni of cantebury too? engineering? Haha. Addington road is kinda far frm uni. My house is just off waimairi road. yea, u can get essentially anything frm trademe. Around 40-50k nzd for a used 99' R34 GTR. cant afford one. lol.
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dear BeastX
your contributions to this thread are outstanding!
Keep up the good work

However,
can you please tell me if these procedures and rules apply to those who want to bring back motorcycles?
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ermmm...

i'm new here...
just 1 to know...
import car from thailand need wat procedures and how much is the tax..???

toyota venza d selling at oversea... so sad,our m'sia not in sale..TT
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juz to remind anyone who will bring back car, pls check your engine no and chasis no must be the same as the registrartion book. My fren had a prob with his car coz the engine no is diffrent. maybe the previous owner had change the engine, dun know how did he kowtim dgn kastam.
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QUOTE(takuntung @ Apr 4 2009, 04:08 AM)
juz to remind anyone who will bring back car, pls check your engine no and chasis no must be the same as the registrartion book. My fren had a prob with his car coz the engine no is diffrent. maybe the previous owner had change the engine, dun know how did he kowtim dgn kastam.
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yeah true..sometimes the conventional system for numbering engines varies in few countries(some drop the alphabet identification eg GE). check it by eyes.

*baob3i* , look the whole thread then you'll find info you need, dont be lazy what we can help here is assisting. we cant be bothered to explain start from scratch at page 13. be respectful to mr beastx and the others kesian them for the awesome details they have provided. thanks

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i found that the docket price is much lower compared to the price in the pdf file provided by kastam,
For eg; pdf file price for MERC BENZ,C 200 Kompressor,Car,1796=RM120,526
but the real doket price only E17700, refer http://m4j1h4.fotopages.com/?entry=1098193

anyone have any idea?



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QUOTE(takuntung @ Apr 7 2009, 06:27 PM)
i found that the docket price is much lower compared to the price in the pdf file provided by kastam,
For eg; pdf file price for MERC BENZ,C 200 Kompressor,Car,1796=RM120,526
but the real doket price only E17700, refer http://m4j1h4.fotopages.com/?entry=1098193

anyone have any idea?
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i dont know, but where did she get the docket price from? is that a reliable source?did she state the source form the calculation?footnote etc?
the pdf is definitely from Kastam, well for me it looks authentically straight from them
just my 2 cents

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the fotopages link given is the real example of the car tax calculation, so I think the docket price E17700 must be from the kastam.
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Bro, where did you get this new tax rate from? Slight change from the old ones

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Hey, BeastX,
  Are you from KK? I'm from KK too. LEts hope we are not from the same school.. MAybe we actually know each other le.. haahah


Added on January 23, 2009, 4:46 amHere is the updated tax depreciation schedule and tax rate as at January 2009

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hi there everybody....
let me start by saying that this is one cool thread!!!! thumbup.gif full of info and good discussion + advice rclxms.gif

currently i am staying in japan and planing to return home somewhere in july
i want to bring back my car which is a honda s2000.....(the best car i've ever drive thumbup.gif )
the car is 10years old this year and i got it for about RM35k 3years ago.

i really need to estimate on how much i need to pay the gov. in order to bring my car into the country.
any idea anyone.... sad.gif

as i read throughout this thread, it seem like it would difficult to deal with import process alone...
so i am looking for a forwarder to help me through the process of importing the car and putting it in the road.
any suggestion or recommendation anyone..... smile.gif

thanks everybody

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QUOTE(pulaup2000 @ Apr 17 2009, 10:42 AM)
hi there everybody....
let me start by saying that this is one cool thread!!!!  thumbup.gif  full of info and good discussion + advice  rclxms.gif

currently i am staying in japan and planing to return home somewhere in july
i want to bring back my car which is a honda s2000.....(the best car i've ever drive thumbup.gif  )
the car is 10years old this year and i got it for about RM35k 3years ago.

i really need to estimate on how much i need to pay the gov. in order to bring my car into the country.
any idea anyone....  sad.gif

as i read throughout this thread, it seem like it would difficult to deal with import process alone...
so i am looking for a forwarder to help me through the process of importing the car and putting it in the road.
any suggestion or recommendation anyone.....  smile.gif

thanks everybody
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Hey there. S2000 is indeed a cool car! thumbup.gif Could u find out the initial price of the s2000 back in 1999? So i can estimate the tax. Also, i would suggest u to follow up the produce urself as hiring a forwarder means u got to pay much $$. Appeal in person to the custom office to get discount.
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hope this can help u guys out there...
i'm tryin to get somethin soon in future happy.gif

aiyoo..double post.sorry sweat.gif

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hope this can help u guys out there...
i dun have d latest one..but u can figures somethin

i'm tryin to get somethin soon in future happy.gif
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QUOTE(lowprofile @ Apr 17 2009, 11:52 AM)
hope this can help u guys out there...
i'm tryin to get somethin soon in future happy.gif
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Thanks guy. Unfortunately this pricelist doesnt inlcude some rare cars like honda integra, s2000, toyota mrs etc..
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Thanks guy. Unfortunately this pricelist doesnt inlcude some rare cars like honda integra, s2000, toyota mrs etc..
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i know..i hope u can estimate somethin in similar happy.gif

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hi there everybody....
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A 20ft container from Japan to Port Kelang will cost approx. 120k-160k Yen (early last year, maybe much more now). You have to hire a forwarder no matter what, the company that brings/unloads your container from the ship/docks to a warehouse or such, where you'll drive your car and/or unloads your things.

10 year old, 2L.. cheap tax.. worth it to bring back.. lazy to calculate, use the posted online calculator by takuntung...(maybe not working)

You need to de-register your car in Japan, give your car plate back, and get a document to export (cannot recall yet, will check)
You may need to get a temp plate to drive your car to the docks/loading container (get from Local Ward Office).
Get whatever documents your container company requires, usually only the export doc.
Chasis No. and Engine no. (You need to copy down, check under hood).
You'll get a "Bill of Landing" for you container, that you'll need to pass to the forwarder you hired.

^^ This all you need to do yourself

What you may hire, is a Runner of sorts in Malaysia, they do the handling the Miti App, forwarder hire, Kastam appeal, JPJ and Puspakom leg work. Roughly a days of work only. They may charge you RM2k for their services (not including tax, port, landing etc charges)... just their leg work charges. You may get more tax cut if you personally appeal. If you time is worth more than RM2k (or more).... then, by all means hire a runner. You'll need to provide all the documentation to them...

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Apr 17 2009, 05:04 PM)

10 year old, 2L.. cheap tax.. worth it to bring back.. lazy to calculate, use the posted online calculator by takuntung...(maybe not working)


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hahaha, too lazy to calculate eh? haha..nevertheless the bumps are there ie 2.0, 10 years, kinda affordable for tax..but in yen hmmmm...hope either you have lotsa cash or yen will depreciate soon!!!
btw guys, good luck with the process, we will be here to assist you!

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thanks for the reply guys......really appreciate it. smile.gif

OOOOPP! ,
i check on the net, and the price for S2000 (model april 1999 - sept 2001) is between 3,549,000yen to 3,738,000yen
hope that helps you with your calculation.....and could you let me know the tax estimation, so i can have an idea of how much i need to pay. i hope that the figure would look something like RM1*,*** (impossible?)
cause i am thinking of changing my clutch before i return home..... rolleyes.gif

ohh yes, would like to know if the 2nd hand price (actual purchase price) is required for the tax calculation.
i actually lost the receipt and ask the shop where i bought my car to issue another one just in case.... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(pulaup2000 @ Apr 18 2009, 08:12 PM)
thanks for the reply guys......really appreciate it.  smile.gif

OOOOPP! ,
i check on the net, and the price for S2000 (model april 1999 - sept 2001) is between 3,549,000yen to 3,738,000yen
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Rough cal....

Lets say 3.5 M Yen.. after 10 years, depreciation value about 527k yen... Tax (157.4%) about 830k yen.... so very roughly about RM30.2k in tax[+rm2.xk in other charges](in july/aug 2007's x-rates, it would have been about RM24k). nego with custom... you'll probably can get it being cut to the higher RM1x,xxx .... One big excuse is the high Yen rate now.

The receipt is not required. Custom has their own price list to base their FOB depreciation calculation.

...Question... hard top or vinyl top??.. Malaysian sun is merciless on vinyl plastics.

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thanks BeastX smile.gif
thank you for the tax estimation....

honestly i so dearly hope that the tax would go below rm20k rolleyes.gif

my car has a vinyl top (soft top) ....was also thinking of fixing a hardtop onto it,
but just cant wrap the idea of a hardtop s2000. hmm.gif
seen a few on the road here in japan.....but it just doesn't look as slick as the merc slr or the Z4.
not to say that i am comparing the s2k to the high class Z4 though blush.gif
personally i think the s2k is not originally cut out to be a hardtop 2 seater sports car unsure.gif

so now i guess i need to work on my bargaining skills before going up with the custom guys sweat.gif
or else no new clutch for me rolleyes.gif

i also realise that i am going to have a problem with the car's stereo. the FM radio frequency
range max up at 90MHz......i guess i would also need to get a new stereo when i am home.

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BeastX have done the calculation faster than me!

pulaup2000,
IMO, softtop is still the best for s2000. Did ur car come with gps? I notice that some of s2k hav and some don. Wish u all the best for the tax appeal. haha. Kindly keep me update of your final tax amount ok? I'm goin to bring back a s2k in the near future too.
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hmm i would say the tax is roughly at rm20k-25k, given that tax appeal works fine, well this is just my opinion.
regarding your radio frequency, just get a band extender if you love your radio that much. if i were you i just get a mp3 player, less hassle, cool features etc. there are lotsa choices in the market, simple as

yeah since you are from japan, would you mind checking the price of 1/100 MG Unicorn Gundam and 1/100 HG Overflag (in RM)? hahahahahahah brows.gif .........
sorry beastx, couldnt resist the temptation kehkehkeh icon_rolleyes.gif

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hmm s2k 35k + tax 25k = 60k...still ok then the one sells here...
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Apr 21 2009, 01:26 PM)
hmm s2k 35k + tax 25k = 60k...still ok then the one sells here...
for a 10 years old Honda.... Where the brand name has a higher resale value (lower depreciation)... It will be worth the trouble to import branded old cars (Merc/BMW/Honda/Toyota/Subaru...) to Malaysia where the tax value depreciation more than the 2nd hand market value depreciation in Malaysia.

Do note: No owner transfer allowed for 2 years...
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totally agree with BeastX
brand value is high in malaysia......so it is totally worth the trouble. icon_rolleyes.gif

but i plan to hold on to my car for as long as i can. thumbup.gif

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Nobody provide the latest price list for the AP obtained from AP holders for various type of imported cars? Easily cost you RMXX,XXX... whistling.gif

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ok a more complete one that was declared in 22 March 2006... above 2L no difference between van/car/4x4
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Hi everyone.. Thank you so much for contributing to this thread.. I find it very useful and am really grateful..

I am currently studying in the UK.. And will be going back for good soon, if God's willing.. and planning to bring back a car..

So, the AP thing.. How do I apply it from here? Does anyone know whether MITI have any branch here? Or do I just apply for the AP when I am in Malaysia, i.e. while the car is being shipped?

Thanks in advance.. Really appreciate it smile.gif
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Hi everyone.. Thank you so much for contributing to this thread.. I find it very useful and am really grateful..

I am currently studying in the UK.. And will be going back for good soon, if God's willing.. and planning to bring back a car..

So, the AP thing.. How do I apply it from here? Does anyone know whether MITI have any branch here? Or do I just apply for the AP when I am in Malaysia, i.e. while the car is being shipped?

Thanks in advance.. Really appreciate it smile.gif
Own the car for more than 9 months?.... You can apply in Malaysia when you are back while your car/cargo is in transit. takes about 2 weeks for you to get your AP from MITI
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Own the car for more than 9 months?.... You can apply in Malaysia when you are back while your car/cargo is in transit. takes about 2 weeks for you to get your AP from MITI
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Yup. I see.. Thanks, BeastX! That was quick smile.gif

I plan to share a 40ft container with my friend for our cars. I heard it is much cheaper than renting a 20ft container. Does anyone know whether there will be any Custom of Malaysia's paperwork involved here? The reason I am asking is that friend of mine may go back a few days later than me, and thus I am concerned if both of us actually need to be there when the cars are loaded into the container, say, to sign Custom Declaration maybe?

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Yup. I see.. Thanks, BeastX! That was quick smile.gif

I plan to share a 40ft container with my friend for our cars. I heard it is much cheaper than renting a 20ft container. Does anyone know whether there will be any Custom of Malaysia's paperwork involved here? The reason I am asking is that friend of mine may go back a few days later than me, and thus I am concerned if both of us actually need to be there when the cars are loaded into the container, say, to sign Custom Declaration maybe?

Thanks in advance smile.gif
Should be straight foward all items other than cars should be tax free. Joint declaration of contains in the cargo. Bill of Landings maybe to both of you (or one). The person or persons signed should be there for the breaking of the cargo seal when unloading. When loading you (or your friend) dont have to be present, depending on the container-shipping company, all your cars and things maybe needed to be brought to the loading area/place before hand. You'll need to discuss/arrange with the container-shipping company.

I think you can be present when they load your cargo,. As for me, I trusted the company (no choice actually)... , left the country a week before my 40ft was loaded and shipped.

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something about AP, everyone please have a look

http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...an&pg=mh_04.htm

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Those APs for cronies maaa ,not for us, ours is student/working overc AP, maybe different.

Btw, can someone test my car tax calculator, i think its working now.

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jan 24 2009, 03:33 AM)
Sure, the process should take a week, you can apply while it is in transit, the sooner the better, be fore-warned the tax is 221.75% x 3 years depreciation (unless the change the tax rate before/at 2010). ... but I bet your X5 being a left hand drive will be inconvenient in Malaysia.

221.75%.... almost(more) like you pay the price of 3 cars for 1.

If you have a spouse working in canada (proof of employment), you can get another car imported.
the tax is 221.75%? Thought it was going to be around 150%.


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QUOTE(takuntung @ Apr 27 2009, 10:37 PM)
Those APs for cronies maaa ,not for us, ours is student/working overc AP, maybe different.

Btw, can someone test my car tax calculator, i think its working now.
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Nice calculator takuntung! I tried and here are my findings:

1. The Insurance field cannot be populated. It wont accept anything that I typed in. Default now is zero.
2. Sales tax. Isn't this field supposed to be a percentage that I can get from the link for import and excise tax? The value defaulted in there definitely not 10%. Not sure how this is calculated.
3. Is docket price the same as CIF value?
4. The depreciation discount, is it based on Production date (manufactured) or the model year? My car was manufactured in Oct 2006, but identified as 2007 model.

Using your calculator, I'll be glad to pay the government RM4k for bringing in my X5..which seems too low.

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QUOTE(zemmhassim @ May 1 2009, 03:01 AM)
the tax is 221.75%? Thought it was going to be around 150%.


Added on May 1, 2009, 3:14 am

Nice calculator takuntung! I tried and here are my findings:

1. The Insurance field cannot be populated. It wont accept anything that I typed in. Default now is zero.
2. Sales tax. Isn't this field supposed to be a percentage that I can get from the link for import and excise tax? The value defaulted in there definitely not 10%. Not sure how this is calculated.
3. Is docket price the same as CIF value?
4. The depreciation discount, is it based on Production date (manufactured) or the model year? My car was manufactured in Oct 2006, but identified as 2007 model.

Using your calculator, I'll be glad to pay the government RM4k for bringing in my X5..which seems too low.

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Thanks zemmhassim,
Only 4k for X5 2006 rclxub.gif , I think there must sth wrong when u key in the value.
1. The insurance field is alraedy calculated for u, its 1.5% from (total after all deductions)
2. Sales tax is also calculated 10% from (Nilai Kastam+DI+DE)
3. yup
4. not sure.

I tried to calculate your car tax using my calculator, I assume that when you bring back your car, it is 3 yrs old (48% depreciation), and shipping is from UK, and it is 3 liter engine. The docket price posted by someone here is (pdf file) is RM161499.

The tax before discount is RM 117, 532.99. Where do u get 4 K? rclxub.gif refer here

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QUOTE(zemmhassim @ May 1 2009, 03:01 AM)
the tax is 221.75%? Thought it was going to be around 150%.
They tax yor tax/duty... with sales tax taxing all the tax/duty + value... so in the end, the compounded tax is effectively 221.75% for more than 3L

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QUOTE(BeastX @ May 1 2009, 08:52 AM)
They tax yor tax/duty... with sales tax taxing all the tax/duty + value... so in the end, the compounded tax is effectively 221.75% for more than 3L
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Yup, they tax on tax. Based on caculation here, Duti eksais(DE) is only calculated from Nilai kastam (NK) which is 80% x 15034.04 = RM 12027.23.

But one of my fren was taxed differently last few months.

His DE was based from (Nilai kastam + Duti import) which is 80% x (15034.04 + 4510.21) = RM 15635.4. U see, dekat 3 k lari.

Which method is correct, I am not sure. But there is inconsistency in their calculation. Itu yg saya takut.

I know most people bring back their car wont argue about calculated tax from kastam, but u really should know how to calculate them yourself.

Ada satu lagi kes lagi teruk, I try to calculate based on the eg. above, he should be taxed around 67k b4 rayuan, but kastam kira 90+K, but after rayuan , he was taxed 60+.

so my advise, u should know how to calculate the tax, or roughly estimate your tax, maybe you can save 20k +...for correct tax calculation.

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QUOTE(takuntung @ May 1 2009, 02:10 AM)
Thanks zemmhassim,
Only 4k for X5 2006 rclxub.gif , I think there must sth wrong when u key in the value.
1. The insurance field is alraedy calculated for u, its 1.5% from (total after all deductions)
2. Sales tax is also calculated 10% from (Nilai Kastam+DI+DE)
3. yup
4. not sure.

I tried to calculate your car tax using my calculator, I assume that when you bring back your car, it is 3 yrs old (48% depreciation), and shipping is from UK, and it is 3 liter engine. The docket price posted by someone here is (pdf file) is RM161499.

The tax before discount is RM 117, 532.99.  Where do u get 4 K? rclxub.gif  refer here
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takuntung,

Thanks. My mistake..I did not put the Kadar Tukaran Wang. That means if I am able to get the diskaun individu and diskaun rayuan, it could be well below RM100k! I think it's worth it.

Thanks!
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hello. dunno if anyone can help. but if i want to import a 2002 motorcycle from the USA. what will be the cost of all the custom duties and tariffs and the procedure to go about it? the bike is about RM6000 now. thankx in advance......
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use calculator maaaa...veli easi one...
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paying 120% tax for the car is just blink.gif
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use calculator maaaa...veli easi one...
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haha, spot on! honestly, tired of getting this kinda q all the time sigh
during my time, i did all the research myself

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Good Morning Ya'all

I too share the frustration of owning a nice car and will be moving to Malaysia, in fact KK later in the year and am wondering is it really going to be worth my while bringing my pride and joy with me.

I own a Ford Cougar, it was registered in 2000 and has a 2.5 V6 engine. I have owned it for 12 months now and it cost me 1,500GBP. I understand that it was approx 19,000GBP when new, Could someone Kindly advise me as to how much I will have to pay to the Taxman for the privilage of importing my car.

One more question, would it be possible to drive my car on UK plates for any period of time in Sabah.

Have a pleasant day!!

And thanks in Advance...
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QUOTE(derz @ May 14 2009, 10:05 AM)
Good Morning Ya'all
I too share the frustration of owning a nice car and will be moving to Malaysia, in fact KK later in the year and am wondering is it really going to be worth my while bringing my pride and joy with me.
I own a Ford Cougar, it was registered in 2000 and has a 2.5 V6 engine. I have owned it for 12 months now and it cost me 1,500GBP. I understand that it was approx 19,000GBP when new, Could someone Kindly advise me as to how much I will have to pay to the Taxman for the privilage of importing my car.
One more question, would it be possible to drive my car on UK plates for any period of time in Sabah.
Have a pleasant day!!
And thanks in Advance...
The usual way to import..
Before you can bring in the car, you would have to de-register the car, your UK plates are no longer valid/have any use.

Tax calculation... use the posted tax calculator by Takutung..

For your info,
Hiring a container to KK would be more expensive than to Port Klang (by RM3 to 4k or more)... unfair Cabotage rules for East Malaysians.

If you need more info on dealing with in KK Sepanggar Port, hiring forwarder, dealing with MITI KK, dealings with JPJ and Puspakom KK I'll PM you.
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harlo BeastX, can help me calculate what the total pay needed if im gona bring a lancer evo 3 back to msia from japan
price is 460,000yen convert to ringgit malaysia is RM17,128.

here the link of dat evo 3 http://www.japan-car.jp/mitsubishi/lancer/000295.shtml

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harlo BeastX, can help me calculate what the total pay needed if im gona bring a lancer evo 3 back to msia from japan
price is 460,000yen convert to ringgit malaysia is RM17,128.

here the link of dat evo 3 http://www.japan-car.jp/mitsubishi/lancer/000295.shtml
You need to know the retail price when it was released in 1995.... then use takutung's calculator...

nice engine and 4x4 system... but looks like the over-abundance Malaysian wira here....
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hey beastX
what about this man?
http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan...da/nsx/1847918/

can u calculate for me?
how to find the retail price in 1991 anyway?
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 23 2009, 05:23 PM)
hey beastX
what about this man?
http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan...da/nsx/1847918/

can u calculate for me?
how to find the retail price in 1991 anyway?
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not worth bring back car yr 91, this is due the car tax reduction is not linear correspond to age of your car, refer the following graph: tax vs year so u can see my point, juz my 2 cents

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the best age to buy is 5-7 yrs old car, after that, dpreciation will not have much difference.

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Hi, I have just logged into my lowyat forum username after many years, so i can be considered quite new in this.

I need some URGENT help in regards to my taxes.

I own a Honda Civic Type R 2007 (European Edition) in Australia and I am intending to bring it back to Malaysia.

I bought it for AUD 43,000 in November 2007. I would really appreciate it if someone can help me calculate the taxes for this car. I dont know if anyone has imported this vehicle to Malaysia yet, so I am assuming that it would be the only European Type R in Malaysia as compared to the JDM Civic Type R 2007.

Please give me a rundown on my taxes and the price after (possible discounts)

I am studying in Australia.

Thank you


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QUOTE(Res Ipsa Loquitor @ May 28 2009, 04:22 AM)
Hi, I have just logged into my lowyat forum username after many years, so i can be considered quite new in this.

I need some URGENT help in regards to my taxes.

I own a Honda Civic Type R 2007 (European Edition) in Australia and I am intending to bring it back to Malaysia.

I bought it for AUD 43,000 in November 2007. I would really appreciate it if someone can help me calculate the taxes for this car. I dont know if anyone has imported this vehicle to Malaysia yet, so I am assuming that it would be the only European Type R in Malaysia as compared to the JDM Civic Type R 2007.

Please give me a rundown on my taxes and  the price after (possible discounts)

I am studying in Australia.

Thank you


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I dun know the docket price, I assume you bring back the car this NOV (car age 2yrs) and I assume the docket price is AUD 43K which i think is much higher than the real docket price. The estimated tax is RM82 K.
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QUOTE(takuntung @ May 25 2009, 11:57 PM)
not worth bring back car yr 91, this is due the car tax reduction is not linear correspond to age of your car, refer the following graph: tax vs year so u can see my point, juz my 2 cents

user posted image

the best age to buy is 5-7 yrs old car, after that, dpreciation will not have much difference.
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well not really, isolated cases of few nineties cars still worth up till RM40k-50k in msia (been researching on japs cars, dont really know about contis)

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In my opinion, whatever car age you bring back is still cheaper than Msian market price. What I want to stress here is that, it is better to get a newer car coz the tax reduction after 10 yrs are not much. For ex. 20 yrs old car tax and 15 yrs old car tax will only differ around RM5k only. So better pay a bit more tax and get much newer car. juz my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(takuntung @ May 29 2009, 04:59 PM)
In my opinion, whatever car age you bring back is still cheaper than Msian market price. What I want to stress here is that, it is better to get a newer car coz the tax reduction after 10 yrs are not much. For ex. 20 yrs old car tax and 15 yrs old car tax will only differ around RM5k only. So better pay a bit more tax and get much newer car. juz my 2 cents.
Depends on the initial FOB value, and the engine's cc (the bigger the engine the larger the difference in payable tax from year to year)... The FOB value at 15 years old is 41% less than at 10 years old.

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Depends on the initial FOB value, and the engine's cc (the bigger the engine the larger the difference in payable tax from year to year)... The FOB value at 15 years old is 41% less than at 10 years old.
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If we are talking about "amount" of tax to be paid, definitely it varies depend on many parameters such car price, cc, etc. However if we talk about "percentage" of reduction, whatever cars you plot, it will give a similar to "minus exponential" graph as shown above. This means, the "percentage" of reduction will be the same. Thus , whatever car u bring back, the tax for the car after certain period(>10yrs) will not differ much due to minus exponential curve.
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QUOTE(takuntung @ May 30 2009, 03:54 AM)
If we are talking about "amount" of tax to be paid, definitely it varies depend on many parameters such car price, cc, etc. However if we talk about "percentage" of reduction, whatever cars you plot, it will give a similar to "minus exponential" graph as shown above. This means, the "percentage" of reduction will be the same. Thus , whatever car u bring back, the tax for the car after certain period(>10yrs) will not differ much due to minus exponential curve.
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kudos2, you did your analysis in detail, awesome..
regarding the exponential relationship, you have explained the amount of tax and reduction of tax very well and i acknowledge it undoubtedly true
well how about getting a 15 year old car like FTO or something which has very low mileage of 45k haha, worth isnt it?....btw just my opinion hehe
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im just wondering if i can buy both JK69 and customs form no 1..or do i need to get my AP approve before i can actually get the customs form?
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You'll need to apply for the AP by submitting the JK69 form with car's engine and chasis numbers. The AP is just an offical permit letter (A letter with a Letterhead, Details and Signature) from MITI.

The JK69 form should be easy enough to get as it applies to most goods entering Malaysia that requires a Permit.



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helo everyone,

say i am bringing back a Subaru Legacy 2.0 STi, made in 2007, from HKG, bought it for around MYR100k after conversion from the HKD currency, using student AP, and staying in HKG more than 9 months already.

how much should I pay the custom duty, tax etc?

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Dear BeastX,

1) Any idea of which forms to get from the customs if im importing a scrap car from overseas?
2) Must the car perform a front cut/rear cut/lip cut if im declaring the car as scrap? Can a whole-body car be imported into Malaysia but declared as scrap? (minus motor/transmission)

Thank you in advance.

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very good info!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(takuntung @ May 29 2009, 04:59 PM)
In my opinion, whatever car age you bring back is still cheaper than Msian market price. What I want to stress here is that, it is better to get a newer car coz the tax reduction after 10 yrs are not much. For ex. 20 yrs old car tax and 15 yrs old car tax will only differ around RM5k only. So better pay a bit more tax and get much newer car. juz my 2 cents.
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depends on preference dude
some people, like me, is looking quite hard to get a '90s NSX and such cars are niche
some can suggest that at that price, i can get a newer reliable car and perhaps a family car, but its all preference dude
haha
but i still dont understand why its not worth it to bring in a '90s car
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jun 27 2009, 03:48 AM)
depends on preference dude
some people, like me, is looking quite hard to get a '90s NSX and such cars are niche
some can suggest that at that price, i can get a newer reliable car and perhaps a family car, but its all preference dude
haha
but i still dont understand why its not worth it to bring in a '90s car
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why so hard to ustd? I didnt say its not worth to bring back 90s car , as i said earlier, whatever car age you bring back, usually is much cheaper than Msia market price, so it is worthwhile.

my point is if you have 2 same cars to buy, one is 15 yrs and the other is 10 yrs, it is better to get the 10 yrs car coz the amount of tax to be paid will not differ much. This is due to minus exponential curve as explained b4. To be worth or not, I recommend to check msia market price first coz some cars are not worth to bring back, for ex: proton smile.gif
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Hello guys,

This thread is a really good and informative.

However, i still have a few things that im not really sure of. rclxub.gif

1. What is docket price?

2. What is the chances for applying the AP? has there been cases where the AP is rejected and what happens to the car ? (assuming already in transit? sweat.gif

3. Do we have to pay cash to the customs?



thanks a lot guys. smile.gif
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QUOTE(xifaraind23 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:20 PM)
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1. The car's price when it was made as in the Custom's list
2. Rules are clearly stated, as long as you meet the minimum criteria, there is no reason why they can reject your application (besides it is pure earnings for the gov. in tax)
3. Straight up cash would be the fastest to process through Custom, though banking-in might be a more convenient option. (you must have the full amount ready)
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jul 1 2009, 03:53 PM)
1. The car's price when it was made as in the Custom's list
2. Rules are clearly stated, as long as you meet the minimum criteria, there is no reason why they can reject your application (besides it is pure earnings for the gov. in tax)
3. Straight up cash would be the fastest to process through Custom, though banking-in might be a more convenient option. (you must have the full amount ready)
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Thanks a lot BeastX,

Im just thinking of bring back a bimmer 525i from UK 2003. Do the customs check the condition of the car or merely based on the depreciation calculation?
Based on the calculator, its around RM40k i think the tax going to be and that's a lot of money.

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QUOTE(xifaraind23 @ Jul 1 2009, 11:44 PM)
Thanks a lot BeastX,

Im just thinking of bring back a bimmer 525i from UK 2003. Do the customs check the condition of the car or merely based on the depreciation calculation?
Based on the calculator, its around RM40k i think the tax going to be and that's a lot of money.
Depreciation value, but if you have non-stock rims (that is worth a lot), high end ICE equipment,... they may charge more.. if it is in stock condition, they cannot charge more..

For my case they did not even bother to check.
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can any1 help me calculate? im too noob to learn all these stuff
Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Coupe
Price - USD49370 (make it USD50000 - easy to count)
5.4L 32V V8

what price it will be if its imported back to Malaysia.........
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QUOTE(haruyip @ Jul 3 2009, 03:20 PM)
can any1 help me calculate? im too noob to learn all these stuff
Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Coupe
Price - USD49370 (make it USD50000 - easy to count)
5.4L 32V V8

what price it will be if its imported back to Malaysia.........
Brand new? easy ...... roughly mid 90k USD in taxes...

provided you have the rights for a new car AP... or (buy/beg/bribe for one)
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QUOTE(takuntung @ Jun 27 2009, 08:40 AM)
why so hard to ustd? I didnt say its not worth to bring back 90s car , as i said earlier, whatever car age you bring back, usually is much cheaper than Msia market price, so it is worthwhile.

my point is if you have 2 same cars to buy, one is 15 yrs and the other is 10 yrs, it is better to get the 10 yrs car coz the amount of tax to be paid will not differ much. This is due to minus exponential curve as explained b4. To be worth or not, I recommend to check msia market price first coz some cars are not worth to bring back, for ex: proton smile.gif
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haha
thanks for the reply dude

if in the US, the NSX can be cheaply bought at USD25000 (stock) but usually a 1991 NSX-R or a 1994 NSX-T
assuming the conversion rate is around 3.52, the price in MYR should be RM87000


in the UK, a 1993 NSX-R can be bought at GBP150000 (stock)
assuming the coversion rate is around 5.76, the price in myr is around RM75000

in malaysia, the average price for an NSX (the 1st gen with C30A) is around RM140k-180k
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my questions are:

i) so using ur tax calculator, what are the tax im supposed to pay for an almost 20 year old car eh?
ii) any idea on AP?


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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 4 2009, 12:54 AM)
........
i) so using ur tax calculator, what are the tax im supposed to pay for an almost 20 year old car eh?
ii) any idea on AP?
i) The tax will be very minimal, ([about 6% of the original car's price + shipping cost] x tax).... should be well below RM10k (maybe 6 to 7k)..
ii) AP is free (or RM2.50 for the form) if your qualify. Prepare to pay big bucks if you don't, or maybe it is not possible as there is a 5 years old limit on commercial AP.
Best bet is friends/family overseas willing to use their AP for you (car/insurance will be under their name for 2 years)

UK cars have the same driving side as Malaysian's

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jul 4 2009, 06:17 AM)
i) The tax will be very minimal, ([about 6% of the original car's price + shipping cost] x tax).... should be well below RM10k (maybe 6 to 7k)..
ii) AP is free (or RM2.50 for the form) if your qualify. Prepare to pay big bucks if you don't, or maybe it is not possible as there is a 5 years old limit on commercial AP.
Best bet is friends/family overseas willing to use their AP for you (car/insurance will be under their name for 2 years)

UK cars have the same driving side as Malaysian's
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damn
the shipping cost is already another thing to consider cuz i have no nuts about freight etc
i know some freight companies (its part of my job scope in my line of work) but i've never involved in this thing
any help on some companies and/or their policies?
haha
what do u mean when u say
i) AP is free
ii) 5 year old limit for commercial AP

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 4 2009, 03:51 PM)
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what do u mean when u say
i) AP is free
ii) 5 year old limit for commercial AP
i) Student/Personal AP is free.
ii) AP given to companies to bring in 2nd hand cars.
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i) Student/Personal AP is free.
ii) AP given to companies to bring in 2nd hand cars.
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haha
damn...
so AP is my last frontier

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jul 3 2009, 05:48 PM)
Brand new? easy ......  roughly mid 90k USD in taxes...

provided you have the rights for a new car AP... or (buy/beg/bribe for one)
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do this mean its 50k USD + 90k USD??
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i) Student/Personal AP is free.
ii) AP given to companies to bring in 2nd hand cars.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 5 2009, 01:01 AM)
haha
damn...
so AP is my last frontier
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damn that means its near impossible to get even a used NSX from the UK into malaysia just because of AP

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AP=Approved Permit...
when a permit is given i dont see why its impossible, given that u got enuf cash lol..unless you fail to understand what a permit is lol..so stop exaggerating this and that, make your own homework so this thread can be very useful to some people..if i were you and wanting to keep myself whining, what about buying a persona then wait its electric window to self-deteriorate lol...
heres a good tips for you->GOOGLE everything on the word student Ap or surf into MITI website under document 11..if you get the rough idea then come back to discuss with us...

btw regarding your nsx or whatsoever..i got a few mates bringing 90s cars and they are still much cheaper...so i dont see why you cant where else few people nailed it....

man..beastx, i respect your effort to answer every question asked here even though its supposed for them to find the answers themselves ie tax(even with the tax calculator is THERE!),procedures(where they can find it at MITI website), and some other stupid ones..i think we should tell them to look into the procedures themselves them come back to us to discuss the details...

takuntung..keep up the analysis..i find it very useful cheers..

guys..good job everyone!

man its good to be back after a long break..hell yeah!!!

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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Jul 5 2009, 09:47 PM)
AP=Approved Permit...
when a permit is given i dont see why its impossible, given that u got enuf cash lol..unless you fail to understand what a permit is lol..so stop exaggerating this and that, make your own homework so this thread can be very useful to some people..if i were you and wanting to keep myself whining, what about buying a persona then wait its electric window to self-deteriorate lol...
heres a good tips for you->GOOGLE everything on the word student Ap or surf into MITI website under document 11..if you get the rough idea then come back to discuss with us...

btw regarding your nsx or whatsoever..i got a few mates bringing 90s cars and they are still much cheaper...so i dont see why you cant where else few people nailed it....

man..beastx, i respect your effort to answer every question asked here even though its supposed for them to find the answers themselves ie tax(even with the tax calculator is THERE!),procedures(where they can find it at MITI website), and some other stupid ones..i think we should tell them to look into the procedures themselves them come back to us to discuss the details...

takuntung..keep up the analysis..i find it very useful cheers..

guys..good job everyone!

man its good to be back after a long break..hell yeah!!!
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errr...dude
dont wanna troll here
but i know what an ap is
in fact my uncle is in the business of selling those sheit but i have never been able to fathom ur eligibility for the thing je
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and i know about the student AP thingy where one student gets one and once u have that contraption with u, u cant change the car title within the next 6 years etc...
but yeah, i think i still need to do loads of stuff
yet since u mentioned that ur mates were bringing in 90's car, i think i might have a bright chance
will give this a greater thought then

and for beastx and takuntung and others who've helped make this thread easier, thanks dudes
p/s: i hate the tax calculator cuz i dunno how to use it so sorry graham
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 5 2009, 10:23 PM)
errr...dude
dont wanna troll here
but i know what an ap is
in fact my uncle is in the business of selling those sheit but i have never been able to fathom ur eligibility for the thing je
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and i know about the student AP thingy where one student gets one and once u have that contraption with u, u cant change the car title within the next 6 years etc...
but yeah, i think i still need to do loads of stuff
yet since u mentioned that ur mates were bringing in 90's car, i think i might have a bright chance
will give this a greater thought then

and for beastx and takuntung and others who've helped make this thread easier, thanks dudes
p/s: i hate the tax calculator cuz i dunno how to use it so sorry graham
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nah bro you're good..im not accusing to you, just general..maybe my tone is bit too harsh i guess, so heres my apology..btw its only 2 years, not 6 years bro..the govt is too retarded if they make it 6 hhahaha..maybe you wanna have a look here, so you might have some points to discuss with us hehe, you are most welcomed...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/459903
http://www.miti.gov.my/ekpweb/application?...325184151636235

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Hi guys,

some really excellent information here. I have attempted to use the customs duty calculator but i just need to ask u panel of experts smile.gif

As i understand AP is completely different to duty payable am i right? Holding an AP does not mean its tax free. I was misinformed that to encourage Msians to go back, they would give AP and not tax the vehicle.

I am moving back from Australia. I have a 2002 W203 Mercedes C 200 Kompressor. Had it since from new until now. From new it was about AUD$85k.
Can anyone confirm with me the tax payable portion?

Thanks in advance.


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QUOTE(cphone @ Jul 7 2009, 11:27 AM)
Hi guys,

some really excellent information here. I have attempted to use the customs duty calculator but i just need to ask u panel of experts  smile.gif

As i understand AP is completely different to duty payable am i right? Holding an AP does not mean its tax free. I was misinformed that to encourage Msians to go back, they would give AP and not tax the vehicle.

I am moving back from Australia. I have a 2002 W203 Mercedes C 200 Kompressor. Had it since from new until now. From new it was about AUD$85k.
Can anyone confirm with me the tax payable portion?

Thanks in advance.
As mentioned before there is the incentive for professionals returning to import or buy car free from Tax (procedures/applicability/validity, I do not know) . On ordinary student/personal AP, the Tax I would say mid RM20k (maybe 25 to 30k).
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yeah i agree..25k-ish (well its just my say)..well you can apply for rayuan tho...

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Thanks for the reply BeastX & Graham. I had someone rang customs in msia and there the officer calculated RM50k, rclxub.gif

oh wells...
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BeastX,

After reading all these pages, it really makes me wanna bring my car back to malaysia.. It's a 2004 V35 skyline coupe 3500cc.

Q1. based on the calculator provided:
Harga docket i estimated RM150k, coz i dont know where to find the original price..
pedagang 15% deduction
depreciation at 62%
individual discount 20%
disc rayuan 10%
sales tax 10%
Duty i 30% (but this is a jap car, can i ask them to calculate 5%?)
Duty e 125%
Tax payable RM66k roughly!!

Did i calculate it correctly?? Rrm80k

or should i use use the price i paid for the car, which is RM80k as harga docket? then tax payable end up with RM37k

which is correct?


Q2. I only owned the car for 5 months until now. I know the minimum requirement is 9 months.
So, can i wait till Nov 2009, which will result my ownership of total 9 month, then allowed for import?

If anyone can help me out, i really appreciate it..

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Another small Q3, there are mods on the car, rims, body kit, audio.. worth rm30k, can i get away from being taxed?

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Actually the tax upon tax... brings the effective tax to be 221.75%... say 150k (original), depreciation at 5 years, 70% off, ... it will be RM84.8k (before appeal)...

You may want to wait or delay it for another month... say ship in mid dec and for the ship to arrive at around early Jan 2010... they may actually count your car a 6th year (ignoring the age in months).

You may want to replace the rims with cheapo/original or take out/remove valuble stuff and pack separately... all things (big household items,electronics,70/101 inch plasma/lcd, personel stuff/etc) other than the vehicle should be tax free (own for at least a year or 6 mnths)... You may want to take the chance to import stuff with a container together with the car.
In my case the custom officers did not bother to check... I could have could have solid gold/platinium car interior.

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How did u get 70% off depreciation? not 62%? (small issue, forget it, i m more worried the below issue, please provide some info?)

Q1. So do u mean, i CAN wait till december, result in 10 month ownership (but i am leaving aus in august, and the car kept by sister and wait for shipping in december), apply AP at december, schedule its arrival at january 2010, which can help me get more depreciation.. In short, the question is, is it ok that i go back malaysia first, coz i havent own the car for 9 months, and wait till end of this year and fulfill the requirement of ownership while i am OVERSEA-Malaysia.

Q2. Any idea where can i find the original price of the car? google didnt help much.. wiki don hv price too...

Q3. Also, i am thinking to take the shipping using RORO (not in container), coz i dont hv much furniture or stuff to bring back, and last time, my dad's lexus GS350 import from japan used RORO, not much hassle~ Wat do u guys think?

Q4. May i know why u suggest taking out the rim/valuable stuff (which i assume are sound system)? Is it bcoz ppl might steal it on-board? i seen imported car with stolen headunit during shipping..






QUOTE(BeastX @ Jul 13 2009, 10:21 PM)
Actually the tax upon tax... brings the effective tax to be 221.75%... say 150k (original), depreciation at 5 years, 70% off, ... it will be RM84.8k (before appeal)...

You may want to wait or delay it for another month... say ship in mid dec and for the ship to arrive at around early Jan 2010... they may actually count your car a 6th year (ignoring the age in months).

You may want to replace the rims with cheapo/original or take out/remove valuble stuff and pack separately... all things (big household items,electronics,70/101 inch plasma/lcd, personel stuff/etc) other than the vehicle should be tax free (own for at least a year or 6 mnths)... You may want to take the chance to import stuff with a container together with the car.
In my case the custom officers did not bother to check... I could have could have solid gold/platinium car interior.
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QUOTE(dannywss @ Jul 13 2009, 08:52 PM)
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exceeding 5 years 70%...

A1. U own it for 9 months... you do not have to be in AUS. in that 9 months... but you have to stay in AUS for more than 1 year.. If I am not mistaken the AP is valid for 3 months...So as soon your car is 9 moths old, your sister maybe can de-register the car and get the proper docs sent to you so that you can apply for the AP in Nov. (takes 2 weeks, but they may delay to 3 to 4 weeks). So as soon that you get your AP... you may wait a week or so, at around mid-December to send the car... It may take up to 2 weeks for ship to arrive in Malaysia which will be in Jan 2010. You'll need to check all this with the shipping company....

A2. There are websites in Japanese (based in Japan) that list the car's price at the year it was made in Yen.

A3. Container will be the safest. 20ft should not cost much, again You'll need to check with the shipping service.

A4. The custom evaluating office (Kelang) may be thorough and hike up the price of your vehicle based on additional accessories based on inspection. I heard it been done before. ... And the risk of stolen/damage as you mentioned if it's RORO. Everything in a container is sealed/locked and only to be opened in your presence. you can pack valuble things separately in boxes mixed together with books/cloths...

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THANKSSS BEASTX, i will wait for 2 more days for my exam result.. if all pass, graduate, WALAH~~ V35 in SARAWAK!!!! yiuupeee~
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QUOTE(dannywss @ Jul 13 2009, 09:37 PM)
THANKSSS BEASTX, i will wait for 2 more days for my exam result.. if all pass, graduate, WALAH~~ V35 in SARAWAK!!!! yiuupeee~
Ok just check a web site... It cost 3.4 to 3.8 million Yen for the 350GT V35... so RM 132k to 148k (at present ex-rates, was only RM102k to RM114k in late 2007 or early 2008)... Sarawak... fellow E.Malaysian... suffers unreasonable cabotage charges in shipping.

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QUOTE(cphone @ Jul 9 2009, 09:49 PM)
Thanks for the reply BeastX & Graham. I had someone rang customs in msia and there the officer calculated RM50k,  rclxub.gif

oh wells...
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owh ok..but, based on the info you've given, i think tax should be around rm25k after rayuan...try the calculator again and see how it goes..try 25% of final tax deduction..hmm try to make the time length goes further (you know how the exponential curve works dont you?)...when are you going to bring the car home? well just info my mate brought his caldina and it costs him half of the price of caldina here..
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Thanks for the search, i then tried google.jp, search in nissan.jp and found it's price too..
yea.. i remember shipping is a little &#%)^*#^%&^ for poor e.malaysian here when the lexus gs350 was on it's way here..

QUOTE(BeastX @ Jul 13 2009, 11:49 PM)
Ok just check a web site... It cost 3.4 to 3.8 million Yen for the 350GT V35... so RM 132k to 148k (at present ex-rates, was only RM102k to RM114k in late 2007 or early 2008)... Sarawak... fellow E.Malaysian... suffers unreasonable cabotage charges in shipping.
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i haven read through this thread yet but wil do it soon
basically i am a student studying in australia, i want to buy a honda jazz and drive here, then bring it back to malaysia when i am done with studies and go back. my concerns are:

1. how long do i need to own the car for before i can import it into msia?
2. i saw that we can appeal to get the tax back? so all in all roughly how much is the import tax like?

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every few pages, there will b someone asking same Q, and same A given.. 9months+
(update: i called an agent in sarawak, was told even 6 months mayb enough)
import tax? the formula is already given, http://www.floristhut.com/taxkastam.htm
tax return, no such thingo. (i think)

From wat i experience, honda jazz is not worth the hassle.

QUOTE(pangping1510 @ Jul 14 2009, 11:47 PM)
i haven read through this thread yet but wil do it soon
basically i am a student studying in australia, i want to buy a honda jazz and drive here, then bring it back to malaysia when i am done with studies and go back. my concerns are:

1. how long do i need to own the car for before i can import it into msia?
2. i saw that we can appeal to get the tax back? so all in all roughly how much is the import tax like?

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Added on July 15, 2009, 3:48 pmcalled miti and custom, confirmed with a 'inside-friend' for tax purpose, checked with import car dealer, after much consideration, it is just not worth bringing back any car, UNLESS it's a exotic/really expensive car..

it's just not worth the hassle.. and even if u got connection, dealers are able to match your cost of bringing any car in, coz reasons you-can-imagine..

If u still wanna go thru the troubles and get your own imported car, australian ppl can just forget it, GO JAPAN~~

i will wait for yen to drop, and import from japan again, much better overall route..




Suggestion to future ppl who consider to import your own car, steps:
1. find out the tax tat u gonna pay, using the provided calculator by floristhut (really easy), call custom (03 88822100) to confirm the tax payable (they R really helpful). (U ONLY NEED TO KNOW THE CAR ORIGINAL DOCKET PRICE.. USE GOOGLE)

2. go google import car dealers in malaysia, look for price selling of your wanted car. (or call them to try haggling, it's worth it)

3. compare the price dealer selling and your total cost to import (car price, shipping, tax).. and see how much money u can save to import yourself, COMPARE to the hassle u have to go thru if import your own..

4. Decision~


West malaysian are lucky, if any east malaysian need some help? pm me~

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QUOTE(dannywss @ Jul 15 2009, 02:36 PM)
every few pages, there will b someone asking same Q, and same A given.. 9months+
(update: i called an agent in sarawak, was told even 6 months mayb enough)
import tax? the formula is already given, http://www.floristhut.com/taxkastam.htm
tax return, no such thingo.  (i think)

From wat i experience, honda jazz is not worth the hassle.

Added on July 15, 2009, 3:48 pmcalled miti and custom, confirmed with a 'inside-friend' for tax purpose, checked with import car dealer, after much consideration, it is just not worth bringing back any car, UNLESS it's a exotic/really expensive car..

it's just not worth the hassle.. and even if u got connection, dealers are able to match your cost of bringing any car in, coz reasons you-can-imagine..

If u still wanna go thru the troubles and get your own imported car, australian ppl can just forget it, GO JAPAN~~

i will wait for yen to drop, and import from japan again, much better overall route..
Suggestion to future ppl who consider to import your own car, steps:
1. find out the tax tat u gonna pay, using the provided calculator by floristhut (really easy), call custom (03 88822100) to confirm the tax payable (they R really helpful).  (U ONLY NEED TO KNOW THE CAR ORIGINAL DOCKET PRICE.. USE GOOGLE)

2. go google import car dealers in malaysia, look for price selling of your wanted car. (or call them to try haggling, it's worth it)

3. compare the price dealer selling and your total cost to import (car price, shipping, tax)..  and see how much money u can save to import yourself, COMPARE to the hassle u have to go thru if import your own..

4. Decision~
West malaysian are lucky, if any east malaysian need some help? pm me~
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good job bro!! i did all those before but too lazy to type them down here..yeah some cars are worth for collection namely nsx,fto,mr2 and integra, even AE86!..even they are considerably old cars but the price sometimes skyrocketing lol...

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u forgot to take into account the money u gonna get when u wanna sell your car, and how big is the market.. Also, these cars are 5yrs old+ (or much more), value will drop faster due to higher possibility of breaking down and so on..

so, at first, i was voting for rm300k+ cars, but considering u can always buy the 'so-called' performance car priced around rm100k, might consider to have both in my garage rclxms.gif

now, how should i convince my dad doh.gif



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good job bro!! i did all those before but too lazy to type them down here..yeah some cars are worth for collection namely nsx,fto,mr2 and integra, even AE86!..even they are considerably old cars but the price sometimes skyrocketing lol...
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Yup, gud job by dannywss, rclxms.gif
graham, what car did u bring back? mind sharing it here, and 1 more thing, like your avatar, vary catchy thumbup.gif

QUOTE(graham_flag @ Jul 16 2009, 11:11 PM)
good job bro!! i did all those before but too lazy to type them down here..yeah some cars are worth for collection namely nsx,fto,mr2 and integra, even AE86!..even they are considerably old cars but the price sometimes skyrocketing lol...
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where can i get docket price for Mercdes model, searched Google but to no avail have i found them.

E200k 2003, E200k 2004 and E200k 2005

C180 2003, C180 2004 and C180 2005
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same here..cannot find the docket price for honda civic ek9..
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hey if i bring a 6 year old used car from singapore.
how much tax must pay? its a bmw 525.
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very neat calculator. thank you.

but seriously, how do u guys find the original car price way back 5years ago?
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does anyone know whether i'd need special permit/procedures to import parts (new or used) into malaysia? rate of duties?
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QUOTE(kanz1986 @ Aug 11 2009, 07:12 PM)
very neat calculator. thank you.

but seriously, how do u guys find the original car price way back 5years ago?
Way back to early 90s or longer.. also can.... for Japanese made cars at least....
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Hi,

I want to know what is the actual cost of living with a beemer. Lets say I can get a used E90-93 around £6k. But I actually am not sure about the cost of owning a car. And to make it slightly harder, I will be based in Kelantan. Where to service the car there? I know Merc cars are easier since there are dealers almost every state. Not too sure there is a BMW service centre in Kelantan. and I don't like mercs. The only merc I do like is the new C-class, but thats more expansive than the current beemer (not the new facelift model). So, I really can see the point of importing if you just want the badge. If not, I'm happy to save money and buy a new entry level Honda city.

Mind sharing your experience. Cause the way I see, the cost of importing a car back is not really as cheap as people say it is. There are loads of taxes and that living cost.

Thinking of a brining back a 320d from UK age <5 years old

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Dear BeastX,

Hi. I'm currently a student in the US. I've been using a 1994 Ford Thunderbird V8 4600cc for 1.5 years now.

I bought it for US$750.00. How much total tax do I have to pay to bring it back to Malaysia? Should be cheap right, since it's 94' car? It was US$20,000 when it was new in 94.

I'm kinda attached to the car, I would really like to drive it in Malaysia.

Sorry about asking you about the tax, I'm quite blur about it.

Thanks!

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wow, you can afford RM3.6k>> road tax....
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QUOTE(vivaclint @ Sep 3 2009, 11:22 PM)
Dear BeastX,

Hi. I'm currently a student in the US. I've been using a 1994 Ford Thunderbird V8 4600cc for 1.5 years now.

I bought it for US$750.00. How much total tax do I have to pay to bring it back to Malaysia? Should be cheap right, since it's 94' car? It was US$20,000 when it was new in 94.

I'm kinda attached to the car, I would really like to drive it in Malaysia.

Sorry about asking you about the tax, I'm quite blur about it.

Thanks!
Rough count... about RM 15k in taxes....
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Thanks BeastX!

In that case, I don't think it's worth it to bring my car home. Plus the road tax would be crazy anyways.
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Dear BeastX,

How much is the tax for a 2005 BMW 320i which cost £8k?
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 8 2009, 06:59 AM)
Dear BeastX,

How much is the tax for a 2005 BMW 320i which cost £8k?
You'll need to know the retail price in 2005...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 8 2009, 01:48 PM)
You'll need to know the retail price in 2005...
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 10 2009, 01:32 AM)
Retail going for £24,465
Lets say you exceed 48 months (less than 54 months).. 58% off FOB value.

A bigger cut in taxes, if your car in more than 60 months (5 years)

You're looking at about £14,416 in taxes... or RM83.3k (before appeal).. with the current tax rate, will be revised this month and unknown when it will be implemented.


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Lets say you exceed 48 months (less than 54 months).. 58% off FOB value.

A bigger cut in taxes, if your car in more than 60 months (5 years)

You're looking at about £14,416 in taxes... or RM83.3k (before appeal).. with the current tax rate, will be revised this month and unknown when it will be implemented.
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tax rate will be revised? mmmmph...any ref.?
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hi, i want to ask, if i go oversea and study and bought a car at there and use it for 2 year, then after i finished my studies there i want to bring back my car to Malaysia.

Assume the car price is RM195k (55k USD).

What would be the final price after i bring back the car to Malaysia??

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hi, i want to ask, if i go oversea and study and bought a car at there and use it for 2 year, then after i finished my studies there i want to bring back my car to Malaysia.

Assume the car price is RM195k (55k USD).

What would be the final price after i bring back the car to Malaysia??
depends on cc.. but you may pay 1x to 1.5x the price (55kUSD)... unless its an electric car/hybrid...
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Ok so here is the situation...

I am in Sydney and will be going back to Malaysia to work for a few years and my company is paying for my relocation costs. I want to ship my 2002 Civic back since I have only clocked up 40K on it and I bought it brand new in Sept 2002 (just over 7 years now).

I have a few questions:

a) Can I apply for the AP in Australia or do I have to apply in Malaysia?
b) Where is the easiest place to get the AP form/JK form?
c) How long to apply for AP because I'm coming back in 4 weeks.
d) If I have to apply in Malaysia then can I send all my documents to someone in Malaysia to help me do it or do I need to apply in person? (do they need originals like passport etc or can I send certified copy via emails?
e) My driving license has expired - do I need to renew it first before doing this process?
f) Alternatively how about I send the car back to Malaysia first then only apply for AP???
g) Anybody got a sample letter to MITI that I can use for my application for AP?
h) Can somebody other than me clear everything in Malaysia (since I might have be travelling around for work) when the car arrives (do I need to be there?)
i) Is the discounts quite easy to get?
j) I'm assuming that the tax is going to be probably under RM15K - does that sound right? I'm assuming the 2002 Honda is around RM100K?

Sorry about the many questions but I tried asking MATRADE here (they dont know anything) and I have been trying to call MITI AP division (no reply)

Thanks!
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QUOTE(Painey @ Sep 18 2009, 12:32 PM)
Ok so here is the situation...

I am in Sydney and will be going back to Malaysia to work for a few years and my company is paying for my relocation costs.  I want to ship my 2002 Civic back since I have only clocked up 40K on it and I bought it brand new in Sept 2002 (just over 7 years now).

I have a few questions:

a) Can I apply for the AP in Australia or do I have to apply in Malaysia?
b) Where is the easiest place to get the AP form/JK form?
c) How long to apply for AP because I'm coming back in 4 weeks.
d) If I have to apply in Malaysia then can I send all my documents to someone in Malaysia to help me do it or do I need to apply in person? (do they need originals like passport etc or can I send certified copy via emails?
e) My driving license has expired - do I need to renew it first before doing this process?
f) Alternatively how about I send the car back to Malaysia first then only apply for AP???
g) Anybody got a sample letter to MITI that I can use for my application for AP?
h) Can somebody other than me clear everything in Malaysia (since I might have be travelling around for work) when the car arrives (do I need to be there?)
i) Is the discounts quite easy to get?
j) I'm assuming that the tax is going to be probably under RM15K - does that sound right? I'm assuming the 2002 Honda is around RM100K?

Sorry about the many questions but I tried asking MATRADE here (they dont know anything) and I have been trying to call MITI AP division (no reply)

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i'm waiting for the same answer to this question.. biggrin.gif

btw.. u might want to look at this ---> tax calc
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QUOTE(Painey @ Sep 18 2009, 12:32 PM)
Ok so here is the situation...

I am in Sydney and will be going back to Malaysia to work for a few years and my company is paying for my relocation costs.  I want to ship my 2002 Civic back since I have only clocked up 40K on it and I bought it brand new in Sept 2002 (just over 7 years now).

I have a few questions:

a) Can I apply for the AP in Australia or do I have to apply in Malaysia?
b) Where is the easiest place to get the AP form/JK form?
c) How long to apply for AP because I'm coming back in 4 weeks.
d) If I have to apply in Malaysia then can I send all my documents to someone in Malaysia to help me do it or do I need to apply in person? (do they need originals like passport etc or can I send certified copy via emails?
e) My driving license has expired - do I need to renew it first before doing this process?
f) Alternatively how about I send the car back to Malaysia first then only apply for AP???
g) Anybody got a sample letter to MITI that I can use for my application for AP?
h) Can somebody other than me clear everything in Malaysia (since I might have be travelling around for work) when the car arrives (do I need to be there?)
i) Is the discounts quite easy to get?
j) I'm assuming that the tax is going to be probably under RM15K - does that sound right? I'm assuming the 2002 Honda is around RM100K?

Sorry about the many questions but I tried asking MATRADE here (they dont know anything) and I have been trying to call MITI AP division (no reply)

Thanks!
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just quick answer, open houses waiting for me...

a. apply in malaysia, need to have boarding pass, apply within 3 months after touch down
b. i bought it in percetakan nasional berhad, cheapest u could get from production line =p
c. 10 working days..mine took longer, thus plan well
d. u can do it yourself and its cheaper..or ask someone to do it which is likely "show me the money!!!"...send all the verified docs to miti level 2..
e. shoot..thats dangerous bro, renew it asap..it requires full licence to apply ap
f. hmmm..that probably have to do alot with port parking charges since applying ap and dealing with kastam are time consuming
g. you have to ask miti lady to email it to you
h. you may ask agents to do it but there goes the moneyyy..
i. hmm depends...but you have to meet the pengarah selangor in person and try to look honest and humble..remember..honesty is the bes policy
j. rm15k? dream on..let say you will be back by 2011..therefore 2011-2002=9 years...good choice since it is more than 6 years..however pls refer tax calculator and beastx explanation..roughly i would estimate rm40k =p (can be bothered..open houses are waiting for me)

hope that helps you..cheers
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Thanks for the reply - too much of a hassle. I'll buy something else when I get back.
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yeah, if i were working and have to deal all those things, i would say the same as you, fair enough..just get something new back in msia, you got the money anyway =p (im pretty sure working overseas would reward you huge pile of money, enough for a new caldina =p)
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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Sep 21 2009, 02:41 PM)
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j. rm15k? dream on..let say you will be back by 2011..therefore 2011-2002=9 years...good choice since it is more than 6 years..however pls refer tax calculator and beastx explanation..roughly i would estimate rm40k  =p (can be bothered..open houses are waiting for me)

hope that helps you..cheers
I would say 20 to 25k would be valid for 7 to 8 years old civic... you may get it down to 15k through appeal...

You can apply while the car is in transit.. (Assuming it would take 3 to 4 weeks to reach malaysia).

Yen and AUD being high now is not favourable... as a price guide in 2007 till mid 2008 a basic civic costs only RM60 to 65k... Civic R-type.. about RM85 to 90k...

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got a quick question here...

If I want to bring a vehicle back, do I need to have a full driving license? Is it possible if I only have a P license?
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got a quick question here...

If I want to bring a vehicle back, do I need to have a full driving license? Is it possible if I only have a P license?
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last time ap would be granted only with full licence, but now i just checked the website and it says:
"Applicant must has a valid driving license. A learner/temporary driving license is not acceptable."

so you'd better off call miti for details

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depends on cc.. but you may pay 1x to 1.5x the price (55kUSD)... unless its an electric car/hybrid...
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assumed it's a 2.6ltr vehicles?? wow... 55k USD x1.5 is hellalot sleep.gif
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assumed it's a 2.6ltr vehicles?? wow... 55k USD x1.5 is hellalot sleep.gif
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yup, we pay a lot for car tax and many malaysians still dun realize this.. what to do , we live in this boleh land which have this kind of mentality "if u dun wan to pay toll, u boleh naik lembu kereta" , so same goes here, if u dun wan to pay car tax, u boleh naik lembu juga..

btw, i dun mind to pay this tax actually as long we have clean & transparent gomen, where the money really-really goes back to rakyat, like free highway(UK), free water (eire) free education (germany), etc.... arrghh stop dreaming.
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hello there.
how about bring back the motorcycle <100cc??is it the same procedure and price??
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QUOTE(takuntung @ Sep 25 2009, 04:44 PM)
yup, we pay a lot for car tax and many malaysians still dun realize this.. what to do , we live in this boleh land which have this kind of mentality "if u dun wan to pay toll, u boleh naik lembu kereta" , so same goes here, if u dun wan to pay car tax, u boleh naik lembu juga..

btw, i dun mind to pay this tax actually as long we have clean & transparent gomen, where the money really-really goes back to rakyat, like free highway(UK), free water (eire) free education (germany), etc....  arrghh stop dreaming.
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oitt takuntung, damn i agree with you 100%..i hate the times when they suddenly come out with a so-called brilliant idea (actually its lame and retarded), especially the f1 team wtf..better spend on education and infrastructure..
opss sorry out of scope =p
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QUOTE(kamen87 @ Sep 26 2009, 05:41 PM)
hello there.
how about bring back the motorcycle <100cc??is it the same procedure and price??
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i also plan to bring back mini moto 50cc, dunno got to apply AP or not
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I heard you can "sell" your AP.

Heard its going for RM20k or £5k. Any buyers interested tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 27 2009, 04:34 PM)
I heard you can "sell" your AP.

Heard its going for RM20k or £5k. Any buyers interested tongue.gif
Can, been done, However the car will have to be under the AP applicant's name for 2 years after import before transfer of car ownership can occur. There might be a high risk for the AP applicant for the quick buck (if the car usage is give to others without transfer of ownership)
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QUOTE(takuntung @ Sep 27 2009, 05:31 PM)
i also plan to bring back mini moto 50cc, dunno got to apply AP or not
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anyone know about bring back the <100cc motorcycle??i wanna bring back honda benly 90cc to malaysia..hehe

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I heard you can "sell" your AP.

Heard its going for RM20k or £5k. Any buyers interested tongue.gif
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£5k AP to bring back mini moto, mmmm, maybe u can buy 10 units of mini motos in Msia laugh.gif


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Can, been done, However the car will have to be under the AP applicant's name for 2 years after import before transfer of car ownership can occur. There might be a high risk for the AP applicant for the quick buck (if the car usage is give to others without transfer of ownership)
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Nevermind. Let my name be on some Ferrari or whatever which is kept in the garage. 2 years will pass by easily laugh.gif

I rather get RM20k/£5 and spend on other stuff.

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Hi Guys, Is it true that a car that has been registered in a South East Asia Country cannot be re-registered into another SEA country.

For example you can register a car from Singapore in Malaysia even with an AP?

Thanks
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So where to sell the AP?
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So where to sell the AP?
It's illegal to sell... It'll be off the books/no-tax declaration...

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Hey could anyone help me do the calculation here ? will much appreciate ...So here what if i bought my car in 2009 August , it was (2008) Mini Cooper S JCW $AUD45,000
And planning to bring it back in after 2 years or 3 years time..what will be the amount of tax to pay and other fees to bring it back to East Malaysia.. 45,000 AUD x 3 = already RM135,000 .

And i heard rumours abt student studying in Aussie and got a car there for 2 years will be getting tax free when importing our car from aussie back to Malaysia..is this true?

Thanks!
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Hey could anyone help me do the calculation here ? will much appreciate ...So here what if i bought my car in 2009 August , it was (2008) Mini Cooper S JCW $AUD45,000
And planning to bring it back in after 2 years or 3 years time..what will be the amount of tax to pay and other fees to bring it back to East Malaysia.. 45,000 AUD x 3 = already RM135,000 .

And i heard rumours abt student studying in Aussie and got a car there for 2 years will be getting tax free when importing our car from aussie back to Malaysia..is this true?

Thanks!
Not tax free, with the 2006 tax law in place now... You may hope for a revision of the tax structure in the span of 2 to 3 years.. 3 years, you are looking at about 100k in taxes.

Unless you r a returning professional (through application you can get tax free).

Cabotage, you may need to pay RM3 to 5k more for shipment to E.Malaysia

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Not tax free, with the 2006 tax law in place now... You may hope for a revision of the tax structure in the span of 2 to 3 years.. 3 years, you are looking at about 100k in taxes.

Unless you r a returning professional (through application you can get tax free).

Cabotage, you may need to pay RM3 to 5k more for shipment to E.Malaysia
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Wow like this mean my car will roughly cost me about RM250k afterall to reach east Msia? Haha better sell in aussie and go back Malaysia buy new car..right ? And it take up so much time for the document and all ..
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Dear Mr BeastX,

Say I will bring back a 2004 Subaru Legacy 2.0 GT from Hong Kong in 2011, how much the estimate total tax I need to pay?

I have tried the calculation by myself here,

It was bought for HKD120,000 (MYR52,000),

but I have checked from http://media.paultan.org/pricelist.pdf, the Cost Insurance Freight value (CIF) is MYR87,784 for Subaru Legacy 2.0 GT, so should I follow MYR52,000 or MYR87,784??

Assuming I just follow MYR87,784,

and refer to http://www.floristhut.com/taxkastam3.htm, the depreciation would be 70%.

So the total tax i need to pay is MYR 27,149.87???

Is that right? Please advice. Many thanks.

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QUOTE(dr.is @ Oct 10 2009, 04:38 PM)
Dear Mr BeastX,

Say I will bring back a 2004 Subaru Legacy 2.0 GT from Hong Kong in 2011, how much the estimate total tax I need to pay?

I have tried the calculation by myself here,

It was bought for HKD120,000 (MYR52,000),

but I have checked from http://media.paultan.org/pricelist.pdf, the Cost Insurance Freight value (CIF) is MYR87,784 for Subaru Legacy 2.0 GT, so should I follow MYR52,000 or MYR87,784??

Assuming I just follow MYR87,784,

and refer to http://www.floristhut.com/taxkastam3.htm, the depreciation would be 70%.

So the total tax i need to pay is MYR 27,149.87???

Is that right? Please advice. Many thanks.

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Yes the RM 87.7k value
70%.... RM 27k but effective tax is at 157.4% of CIF... so tax will be RM 42.5k... but there is a big chance of the change in tax rate before 2011 ...
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Yes the RM 87.7k value
70%.... RM 27k but effective tax is at 157.4% of CIF... so tax will be RM 42.5k... but there is a big chance of the change in tax rate before 2011 ...
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many thanks for the reply Mr BeastX .. by the way, may I know how to calculate "effective tax is at 157.4% of CIF"? and where you get that figure from? thanks again:)
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many thanks for the reply Mr BeastX .. by the way, may I know how to calculate "effective tax is at 157.4% of CIF"? and where you get that figure from? thanks again:)
refer to my post no.66....
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worth it to bring in a 2003/2002 civic ep3 type r ?? here seling about 25k aud.. i'll be here another year or 2... cant find the price in mas.. but new type r is 200k right ?
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is it possible to get imported 2009 model (any) cheaper than market price.
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i own a 1998 isuzu rodeo..so its like aabt 12 yrs old already..currently living in canada m a pr here...looking into moving back to malaysia...how do i go with the importing of the car back there...the value of the suv is around 3000 CAD at the moment and i purchased it at 1500 CAD...wats the taxes like on bringing it back?
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haaaa..
im stil blur2..
any1 can explain about this :
AP
Excise Duty
Import Duty

what is the function of AP..?
Let say if I wanna buy an old classic car from uk but i dun work/stdy over there, I just stay n work in Malaysia.
So, what should I do aaa..?

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I would say wait for the announcement this week by deputy head of MITI.

AP function to control/limit car import (or abused to enrich certain parties).

others ... you can google your aswer.

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update 28-10-2009....

10k per open AP in 2010... importation may not be allowed after 2015... tax/duti structure remains the same??...personal AP may still be free...

more here...
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3101&sec=nation

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Oct 27 2009, 08:14 PM)
I would say wait for the announcement this week by deputy head of MITI.

AP function to control/limit car import (or abused to enrich certain parties).

others ... you can google your aswer.

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update 28-10-2009....

10k per open AP in 2010... importation may not be allowed after 2015... tax/duti structure remains the same??...personal AP may still be free...

more here...
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3101&sec=nation
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It worries me.. Hope tat 10k fee is not applicable to personal ap..
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The new automotive policy gud for our country development..
I wondered how malaysian develop the automotive industry their own..

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The new automotive policy gud for our country development..
I wondered how malaysian develop the automotive industry their own..
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so what are you trying to say here? seriously i dont get it...
good for development? on what basis? in the same time ripping off the citizen well-being?

damnit guys, how can i get cheaper imported used parts since they are no more allowed in the future argh...
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The government would also introduce a mechanism to prohibit the import of used parts and components effective June 2011, said Mustapa.

THIS IS FARK UP man... no used parts to be import? means no more half cut??

Come on, this is so stupid... sad.gif screw them
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The government would also introduce a mechanism to prohibit the import of used parts and components effective June 2011, said Mustapa.

THIS IS FARK UP man... no used parts to be import? means no more half cut??

Come on, this is so stupid... sad.gif screw them
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replace the govt!
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will resale value of used cars drop? aged cars have to send puspakom annually yawn.gif
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replace the govt!
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support.. me & my family never vote for barang naik before... not ONCE pun
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Hi....I'm thinking of bring back my car from Australia to Sabah (E.Malaysia) so just wondering anyone had used the Brunei port before? Any restriction in Brunei?
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Means there is hope I can buy over my Bro's Cayman from singapore in the future.. Thanks!
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soo, with all the taxes involved, how much would i need to spend to bring in the 67 Camaro SS from America??
the current value of one in America is around USD 19,000
that works out to around RM65,000. pls note that the car will be 42 years old..
what are the taxes would i have to pay? and how much??
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its still hard to understand the current situation on the importing of cars and the tax and excise duty apply to it... anyhw the gov is encouraging foreign car maker to open or invest car factory in m'sia... which is a good sign... sooner or later the issues of AP and duties will resolve..
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want to ask question...

let say im will be leaving for japan on 2011..then will estimated to complete my study on the 2014..so what is the best/cost saving way to buy n bring back car..can all the sifu give an example?
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QUOTE(Jegankp @ Nov 23 2009, 08:34 PM)
soo, with all the taxes involved, how much would i need to spend to bring in the 67 Camaro SS from America??
the current value of one in America is around USD 19,000
that works out to around RM65,000. pls note that the car will be 42 years old..
what are the taxes would i have to pay? and how much??
If you qualify for personal AP.... tax will be a few K .... (RM 2 to 3 K)...


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QUOTE(shychenko @ Dec 1 2009, 09:32 AM)
want to ask question...

let say im will be leaving for japan on 2011..then will estimated to complete my study on the 2014..so what is the best/cost saving way to buy n bring back car..can  all the sifu give an example?
Best to wait till 2011 for the tax then .... monitor tax and gov policy changes from 2011 to 2014. Purchase 1st or 2nd hand cars (car age) accordingly. Present AP, you'll have to own the vehicle for more than 9 months and live abroad for more than 1 year. With the present tax/excise duties, best (lowest) tax is for vehicle more than 5 years, which commercial AP cannot use (only for personal AP).

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hahaha.. can someone clear it for me,

i had shipped my Honda Civic Coupe 1999, 1599cc bought it £1500 pound..

i've calculated and will have to pay around RM8k for the tax.. am i ryte?
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man, the f*** is wrong with people here ?!

IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH YOU BUY YOUR CAR FOR, THE TAX IS CALCULATED BY HOW MUCH THE CAR COST BRAND NEW ON THE YEAR OF PURCHASE WITHOUT TAX. HOWABOUTS YOU GO AROUND GETTING THIS PRICE LIST I HAVE NFI

COME ONE MAN f***KKKK DONT KEEP ASKING "help i am a noob, i bought the car for $xxx, how much tax should i pay?!" WHAT IF I GOT THE CAR FOR FREE DUMBASS?! SHOULD I BE GETTING IT FOR TAX FREEE DUMAAAAAA
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QUOTE(williamwong @ Dec 8 2009, 05:40 PM)
man, the f*** is wrong with people here ?!

IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH YOU BUY YOUR CAR FOR, THE TAX IS CALCULATED BY HOW MUCH THE CAR COST BRAND NEW ON THE YEAR OF PURCHASE WITHOUT TAX. HOWABOUTS YOU GO AROUND GETTING THIS PRICE LIST I HAVE NFI

COME ONE MAN f***KKKK DONT KEEP ASKING "help i am a noob, i bought the car for $xxx, how much tax should i pay?!" WHAT IF I GOT THE CAR FOR FREE DUMBASS?! SHOULD I BE GETTING IT FOR TAX FREEE DUMAAAAAA
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haha dude you are fking awesome..i have been bashing those people with solid lazy assessssssssssss before and couldnt be bothered anymore...use fking google will ya?..even more with the new NAP announced, felt kinda stupid contributing to this thread knowing AP will possibly be no more 2015..anyway..been thinking of getting a FTO before 2015..haha but a friend of mine claimed FTO too ***** to ride around opss sorry just saying his opinion, dont blame me, blame him haha..
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newbie here..
i wish to kno whre can i "buy" the ap?
bcoz wish to import my dream car from japan.
middle man is charge too much for them salary..
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hello guys..just wanna ask u guys..have u ever heard bout singapore cars being sold here to malaysians?it's almost similar with the ones where people buy this singaporean superbikes and use em on malaysian roads...is it legal for us to go n get ourselves those singaporeans cars?
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Hey guys,

I have a small question. Is it possible to buy a car from my home country and then import it into Malaysia as a student without having to pay import tax? In my home country it is possible to do such a thing but the status of the car is that the car cannot be registered to any one else and the car cannot be sold. Reason I want to do this is because I have a car back in my country that I want to import but not want to pay the import tax for it. So is this sort of thing possible? And I am not talking about that Malaysia as a Second Home project because I am just a student here and do not own a house.

Thanks to all!
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if you're simply bringing in cause you're a student here for studies, then no you cant.
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Suppose I have a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V SPEC II that I want to bring over to Malaysia. It MY (Year of manufacturing) is November 2001. How much in taxes am I to expect?
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use calculator maaaa... vely easi one
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This is my tax calculation when I brought back my w203 c180 elegance a few months ago.

Docket price: DM 41200
* the car was first registered in 11/2000 according to the v5 document so no euro yet, Germany still uses Deutsche Mark. It is weird that they use Germany currency for Mercedes docket price no matter where it was actually assembled in, ie South Africa.

Peralihan: -15% DM 35020

Depreciation: 11/2000 - 11/2005 -70% DM 10506
- 11/2006 -10% DM 9455.4
- 11/2007 -10% DM 8509.86
- 11/2008 -10% DM 7658.874
* eventhough the car gets to port in September, they refused to grant another 10% because it is not full year. The difference this 10% made to the final tax is roughly RM1300 which pisses me off so much. Dua bulan pun nak kira.
TOTAL: DM 7658.87

CIF:
Cost = 7658.87 x 1.73333 = RM 13275.12
Insurance = RM 199.13
Freight = RM 1700.00
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CIF RM 15174.25
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*The exchange that they used is badly outdated I bet so the actual Docket price in RM is soooo low in comparison to Euro priced counterparts due to the high Euro exchange. A 2001 (which will use Euro) can have up to 20% increase in the docket price.

Discounts:
Custom Selangor : -20% RM 12139.4
Custom Putrajaya : -10% RM 10925.46
AFTER DISCOUNT: RM 10925.46

* Due to some over eager b**tards mad.gif , they clamped down on discounts so the maximum any one person can get now is limited to 30%. I heard a story about a guy that get upwards of 45% before but it is no more.

Payment Calculation:
Duty : 30% RM 3277.638
Excise : 80% RM 11362.4784
Sales Tax : 10% RM 2556.55764
TOTAL TAX : RM 17196.68

* They did calculation without the discounts and it should have been RM 23884.28 so with full 30% discount I saved roughly RM 5700
* If we used Beastx's effective rate for tax calculation which is RM 10925.46 x 157.4%, we get the exact amount but with little less pening kepala.

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QUOTE(Bedok @ Jan 7 2010, 10:39 AM)
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Payment Calculation:
Duty : 30%                         RM 3277.638
Excise : 80%                       RM 11362.4784
Sales Tax : 10%                  RM 2556.55764
TOTAL TAX :                        RM 17196.68

* They did calculation without the discounts and it should have been RM 23884.28 so with full 30% discount I saved roughly RM 5700
* If we used Beastx's effective rate for tax calculation which is RM 10925.46 x 157.4%, we get the exact amount but with little less pening kepala.
To eloborate on the excise part/figure....
80% of (Import + car_value)
80% of (30%+100%) = 104%, So Excise is actually 104%...

and sales...
10% of (30% + 104% + 100%) = 23.4%, Sales tax is actually 23.4%.... That's where we get 157.4% (30+104+23.4)

Tax upon tax, upon tax we are essentially taxed 3 times for import tax and 2 times for excise tax,

To see it another way if we consider percentages from only the CIF value, (Non ASEAN car import, 2L engine)
Import duty is 59.4%
Excise is 88%
Sales is 10%

If import duty is dropped (ASEAN cars 5% to 0).. The effectively drop the % tax is 9.9% (or 107.9% to 98%) for a sub 2L engine car.

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how to sold an AP ya??? my friend who study abroad, don't want to used his AP...
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how to sold an AP ya??? my friend who study abroad, don't want to used his AP...
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I know some people who buy student APs as a business but they all based in the UK so if your friend is studying there, I can PM you their contacts.
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QUOTE(Bedok @ Jan 7 2010, 11:45 PM)
I know some people who buy student APs as a business but they all based in the UK so if your friend is studying there, I can PM you their contacts.
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opss...my friend study in us...
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QUOTE(Bedok @ Jan 7 2010, 10:39 AM)
This is my tax calculation when I brought back my w203 c180 elegance a few months ago.

Docket price:              DM 41200
* the car was first registered in 11/2000 according to the v5 document so no euro yet, Germany still uses Deutsche Mark. It is weird that they use Germany currency for Mercedes docket price no matter where it was actually assembled in, ie South Africa.

Peralihan:    -15%              DM 35020

Depreciation:  11/2000 - 11/2005    -70%              DM 10506
                                  - 11/2006    -10%              DM 9455.4
                                  - 11/2007    -10%              DM 8509.86
                                  - 11/2008    -10%              DM 7658.874
* eventhough the car gets to port in September, they refused to grant another 10% because it is not full year. The difference this 10% made to the final tax is roughly RM1300 which pisses me off so much. Dua bulan pun nak kira.
TOTAL:                                  DM 7658.87

CIF:
Cost  =  7658.87 x 1.73333 = RM 13275.12
Insurance =                            RM  199.13
Freight =                                RM  1700.00
                                            ----------------
CIF                                        RM 15174.25
                                            =========
*The exchange that they used is badly outdated I bet so the actual Docket price in RM is soooo low in comparison to Euro priced counterparts due to the high Euro exchange. A 2001 (which will use Euro) can have up to 20% increase in the docket price.

Discounts:
Custom Selangor :  -20%            RM 12139.4
Custom Putrajaya :  -10%            RM 10925.46
AFTER DISCOUNT:                        RM 10925.46

* Due to some over eager b**tards  mad.gif , they clamped down on discounts so the maximum any one person can get now is limited to 30%. I heard a story about a guy that get upwards of 45% before but it is no more.

Payment Calculation:
Duty : 30%                        RM 3277.638
Excise : 80%                      RM 11362.4784
Sales Tax : 10%                  RM 2556.55764
TOTAL TAX :                        RM 17196.68

* They did calculation without the discounts and it should have been RM 23884.28 so with full 30% discount I saved roughly RM 5700
* If we used Beastx's effective rate for tax calculation which is RM 10925.46 x 157.4%, we get the exact amount but with little less pening kepala.
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Thank you bedok for sharing your car tax calculation, based on my car tax calculator , the total tax is RM17,945, slightly higher than your tax which is RM17196. This is because, you are lucky to get discount based on CIF value. My car tax calculator is based from here. So discount is calculated before CIF value. It is based on the car value after depreciation deduction. However it doesnt matter coz the difference only around 900RM but it gud 4 u

What I am trying to say here, this Kasatam does not have standard calculation method...plsss la mr ketam, publish one UPDATED standard calc. method on ur website...
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QUOTE(takuntung @ Jan 12 2010, 06:20 AM)
Thank you bedok for sharing your car tax calculation, based on my car tax calculator , the total tax is RM17,945, slightly higher than your tax which is RM17196. This is because, you are lucky to get discount based on CIF value. My car tax calculator is based from here. So discount is calculated before CIF value. It is based on the car value after depreciation deduction. However it doesnt matter coz the difference only around 900RM but it gud 4 u

What I am trying to say here,  this Kasatam does not have standard calculation method...plsss la mr ketam, publish one UPDATED standard calc. method on ur website...
The discount given... applies to the CIF value, was the same case with me.

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Hey guys, I'm currently a student in AUS... Is that mean i hold a student AP? How could i find more information on the process of importing car back to Malaysia?

Help me ya..
Cheers

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QUOTE(halo88 @ Jan 16 2010, 11:20 PM)
Hey guys, I'm currently a student in AUS... Is that mean i hold a student AP? How could i find more information on the process of importing car back to Malaysia?

Help me ya..
Cheers
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u r on the right thread, juz read from the beginning...btw, for car tax calculation, i have updated the calculation based on BEDOK's calculation at

http://www.floristhut.com/taxkastam4.htm

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QUOTE(halo88 @ Jan 16 2010, 11:20 PM)
Hey guys, I'm currently a student in AUS... Is that mean i hold a student AP? How could i find more information on the process of importing car back to Malaysia?

Help me ya..
Cheers
To be more precise: You can apply for the 'once-in-a-lifetime' student AP for the immediate/foreseeable future (unless there is a change in gov. policies/AP being dropped/obsolete).

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I'm thinking of getting something like This

Can anyone give me a rough idea of whats it gonna cost me when i bring it over?

it's a 2.7 6 year old car from uk as an example I guess.

also will there be any difference if the car is from us?
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1. About rm55k for tax provided u get 30% discount.
2. left hand drive.
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Hi guys im actually studying in UK and im planning to bring back BMW M3 as a gift to my father biggrin.gif

What i dont understand is the docket price? The customs actually set the docket price of a car rite?

So what is the exact docket price for the M3?

The car that im planning to bring back is 2002 registered and the cc is 3.2litre.

The duty import and duty excise value for the car is how much at a figure?

Sorry to ask silly question.

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QUOTE(starlet4e_turbo @ Jan 28 2010, 08:07 PM)
Hi guys im actually studying in UK and im planning to bring back BMW M3 as a gift to my father biggrin.gif

What i dont understand is the docket price? The customs actually set the docket price of a car rite?

So what is the exact docket price for the M3?

The car that im planning to bring back is 2002 registered and the cc is 3.2litre.

The duty import and duty excise value for the car is how much at a figure?

Sorry to ask silly question.
Effective tax: 221.75%... 8 years depreciation... docket price: roughly the selling price in Germany, minus a few k or 10k(s)
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hello u all..good day to you.. i m newbie here

i have small question...i found 2nd car in singapore .. they sold me USD3600 Free On board..

how much total tax..?


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for instance lets say the docket price for the beemer is 50k pound brand new.

what is the total tax then plus all the depreciation for 8 years?

The M3 in Malaysia cost 220k secondhand and im trying to see whether it is worth it or not.



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QUOTE(starlet4e_turbo @ Jan 29 2010, 07:55 AM)
for instance lets say the docket price for the beemer is 50k pound brand new.

what is the total tax then plus all the depreciation for 8 years?

The M3 in Malaysia cost 220k secondhand and im trying to see whether it is worth it or not.
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To find the docket price, you find the price when it is new in the UK and minus 17.5% VAT paid so you will get the price minus tax for the car.

Docket price in lament term is original price with no tax on it whatsoever. Some company (Audi/BMW/Mercedes) have a tax free sales department so you can estimate the docket price there.

I am too lazy to do that and since that 50k seems too low for an M3 (imho) I just used 50k and put it into takuntung's tax calculator and get a total tax of RM97000-ish. This is assuming the docket price is 50k pounds and the exchange rate is at RM5.6 to a pound. I also assume you get the full 30% discount.
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hello u all..good day to you.. i m newbie here

i have small question...i found 2nd car in singapore .. they sold me USD3600 Free On board..

how much total tax..?

total tax..calculate total tax..how much tax...yada yada yada...




USE THE GODDAMN TAKUNTUNG'S CALCULATOR!!!!

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Hie there.

I have a situation here. I finished my studies in the UK. I am now back in Malaysia for good. Is it still possible to use my allocated AP to import a vehicle?? I've been back for almost half a year now.

Best Regards,

WS
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QUOTE(weisiong87 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:32 AM)
Hie there.

I have a situation here. I finished my studies in the UK. I am now back in Malaysia for good. Is it still possible to use my allocated AP to import a vehicle?? I've been back for almost half a year now.

Best Regards,

WS
Possible... but you'll have to proof that you wholly own the vehicle for at least 9 months while you were in UK. passport/visa/plane ticket used as proof date of return. By right you should own the vehicle for at least 1 year + 3 months already. Or at least 3 months before you left.. but you may need a short trip back to UK for the return proof.
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM)
Possible... but you'll have to proof that you wholly own the vehicle for at least 9 months while you were in UK. passport/visa/plane ticket used as proof date of return. By right you should own the vehicle for at least 1 year + 3 months already. Or at least 3 months before you left.. but you may need a short trip back to UK for the return proof.
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Come from real experience bringing back a car myself. and i quote

You(physically) have to be with the car for the period of 9 months from date of car purchase to be able to use your AP. If 8 months might still consider but below that big fat chance unless u know "somebody-somebody" in MITI.

OR

if you can back date it also a solution.

If you cant prove u were in UK with the car for the 9 months period. Dont bother asking for the AP. Can never get it.

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Feb 10 2010, 10:07 AM)
Come from real experience bringing back a car myself. and i quote

You(physically) have to be with the car for the period of 9 months from date of car purchase to be able to use your AP. If 8 months might still consider but below that big fat chance unless u know "somebody-somebody" in MITI.

OR

if you can back date it also a solution.

If you cant prove u were in UK with the car for the 9 months period. Dont bother asking for the AP. Can never get it.
Proof with a letter from work/school/uni/college is sufficient (I believe my pasport was not seen/needed) for the period of your stay and leave employment/studies (you can be away for some period in that 9 months) ....

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that proof needs to coincide with the date the car is bought that was my point beastx......and yaa ur rite in regards to the part "can be away during the 9 month period"
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Feb 10 2010, 08:08 PM)
that proof needs to coincide with the date the car is bought that was my point beastx......and yaa ur rite in regards to the part "can be away during the 9 month period"
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I'm ryte now waiting for 20% discount.. 2 weeks already.. Siiighhh sad.gif
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FAQ:

Q: If i buy a car on my final year in overseas, when is the best time to buy a car/backdated?
A: Let say u are flying back to Malaysia on the 31th Dec.. (boarding pass) u should then buy the car at least at the end of march that year. Duration from the vehicle transfer date (vehicle reg cert) and the boarding pass must atleast 9 months with the insurance.

Q: How long the AP application processing time?
A: They said it will take only 7 working days if u submitted the JK69 Form with the completed supporting docs. And my AP completed about a month because of holiday season. (Christmas and New year)

Q: What to do if my AP application were rejected?
A: U can ask them why.. But most of the cases they will ask u to send any supporting docs that missing or if the car doesnt fullfill the 9 months ownership period, u could write a letter tell them why. They will let u have the AP but will makes u suffer a bit. *TIPS: keep calling them everyday.

Q: How much the port handling & forwarder (runner) will cost me?
A: Northport (Port Klang) will charge u RM860 for port handling and the forwarder is around RM600-700(Jan 2010)

Q: How much the storage will cost me at port?
A: If the car has been unloaded from the contena, it will cost u RM8.00 per day.

Q: Can i ship the car only without hiring the contena from Uk.
A: Yes u can. If u dont have any stuff to be sent with the car. U can choose to ship the car only. U'll be paying around GBP500; GBP200 less from the 20 foot contena. They will put ur car and someone else car together in one 40 foot contena. (info@malaysiacargo.com)

Q: Can i make a refund of the road tax in UK after i shipped the car?
A: Yes u can. But u should complete the specific section (i forgot which section) in the Vehicle Reg Cert aka V5C or declare SORN and send it to the DVLA. After u have the acknowledgement letter from the DVLA, u should pick up the V33 form from the post office and make a refund.

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1.5 to 1.6k quite high for Port Handling and Forwarder (even for container), Charges for roll on, roll off the car without container should be cheaper....

My AP took 3 weeks..

quite cheap for a 20ft container 700 pounds to Port Kelang. Sharing a 40ft container would be cheaper for the two individuals.
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Feb 11 2010, 08:40 AM)
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1.5 to 1.6k quite high for Port Handling and Forwarder (even for container), Charges for roll on, roll off the car without container should be cheaper....

My AP took 3 weeks..

quite cheap for a 20ft container 700 pounds to  Port Kelang. Sharing a 40ft container would be cheaper for the two individuals.
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Seriously.. thats what i've received from northport D.O recently.. am i cheated? and for the forwarder, i've been asking many of my friends that using diff forwarder and mostly the price is around 600-700.. how much do u pay for it beastX? or best price u can get?
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consider urself in good deal already....i had to fork out in total plus the expenses in malaysia port side around 700pound in total.

In regards to ur not fulfilling the 9 months as far as my experience went by if 7 months or less. U'll gonna need very "big cables" to let the AP pass. But heck i should have back dated it then. Should have known better
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When the cabotage rules was still enforced (in East Malaysia, KK) I had to pay more than 2x of what your charge was from UK, and mine was nearer, from Japan..

I had friends of which the port & forwarder charges in Kelang that amounts to about RM1 to 1.2k only... that 2 years ago.

An agent may/will do all this for you for RM2k fees (not inclusive of port/forwarding charges but will do custom appeal tax/AP app./JPJ/puspakom). Not really worth it, just 1 or at most 2 days of your time and leg work.


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Hi, Info here is very helpful. I need some advice please.

I study in UK and now UK PR over 10 years. I am a doctor and plan to bring my car back December 2010. This car is now near 5 years old original price 22,000 british pounds. I am not planning to work for government hospital, will my car still need to be taxed at normol rate?? I know highly skilled professional can have tax reduced for car import. The car is a heavily modified honda S2000 which is my pride and joy, really not keen to sell them...sad.gif

Thanks in advance.

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QUOTE(leslieng @ Feb 17 2010, 09:57 PM)
Hi, Info here is very helpful. I need some advice please.

I study in UK and now UK PR over 10 years. I am a doctor and plan to bring my car back December 2010. This car is now near 5  years old original price 22,000 british pounds. I am not planning to work for government hospital, will my car still need to be taxed at normol rate?? I know highly skilled professional can have tax reduced for car import. The car is a heavily modified honda S2000 which is my pride and joy, really not keen to sell them...sad.gif

Thanks in advance.
Tax free..... no limitation on age of car (newer better in worth if you indent to sell), if you have a spouse/friend (Malaysian, more than 9 months in UK) that can import the S2000 (maybe with tax, but reduced greatly because of > 5 years), you can import another ( to sell to others, you'll make a tidy profit of up to 2x more than the car's worth)

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Thanks you been very helpful! Do I need a prove of employment in Malaysia before I can arrange the car to be imported? I am currently on holiday in Malaysia, who can I call to get the details?

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Tax free..... no limitation on age of car (newer better in worth if you indent to sell), if you have a spouse/friend (Malaysian, more than 9 months in UK) that can import the S2000 (maybe with tax, but reduced greatly because of > 5 years), you can import another ( to sell to others, you'll make a tidy profit of up to 2x more than the car's worth)
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Here a tip I have to mention...

... the car if possible must remain as stock as possible so the custom department has no excuse to charge you extra. Even extra cd-player/sound/video system adds value to the car. (Removed the "extra" things in separate boxes, together with your personnel items, if shipped together in a container with your car).

As leslieng, you mentioned heavily moddied... This may cause a problem. If engine/parts modified, but no outward/obvious appearance, it should be fine. You declaration of chassis and engine no. must be supported with documentation, or at least declared during application of AP.

For more info call MITI, the tax free professional AP... (maybe still applicable). If not you'll still qualify for the rather low tax (because of depreciation)
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They hit my car while unloading in port klang, small hit costs only few hundred bucks, and couldn't claim anything... Not a big deal but new car, imagine feeling...


I talked to agent to pay for it, as a Malaysia classic they made me remember "the only consumer right is not to consume" in Malaysia....

So if you import a car ask forwarder to arrange you witnessing while unloading container...

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How long generally for car to arrive in KL from UK? Can you recommend any company in UK from experiences of members in this forum?

So, I tried to understand the tax system as you described, plz correct me if I am wrong, if my car S2000 retail price is 27000. Than minus 17.5 vat which is 4725, left witrh 22275. As the car is over 5 years old, allowing for 70% reduction, left with 6683, thats when I get confused and do you times 120%? Is it the same for japanese car even if i bought in Europe?

Thanx!!!


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Here a tip I have to mention...

... the car if possible must remain as stock as possible so the custom department has no excuse to charge you extra. Even extra cd-player/sound/video system adds value to the car. (Removed the "extra" things in separate boxes, together with your personnel items, if shipped together in a container with your car).

As leslieng, you mentioned heavily moddied... This may cause a problem. If engine/parts modified, but no outward/obvious appearance, it should be fine. You declaration of chassis and engine no. must be supported with documentation, or at least declared during application of AP.

For more info call MITI, the tax free professional AP... (maybe still applicable). If not you'll still qualify for the rather low tax (because of depreciation)
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QUOTE(leslieng @ Feb 23 2010, 09:19 AM)
How long generally for car to arrive in KL from UK? Can you recommend any company in UK from experiences of members in this forum?

So, I tried to understand the tax system as you described, plz correct me if I am wrong,  if my car S2000 retail price is 27000. Than minus 17.5 vat which is 4725, left witrh 22275. As the car is over 5 years old, allowing for 70% reduction, left with 6683, thats when I get confused and do you times 120%? Is it the same for japanese car even if i bought in Europe?

Thanx!!!
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When ur car manufacturing date? Mine was in sept 1999, the docket price is €25000.. And the exchange rate was 4.8.. U should check the docket price 1st matey..

The shipping duration is around 5 - 6 weeks..

There's no diff if u bring in the s2k from eu, i brought my honda from uk too..
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Hi, where do u checked docket price? I thought its the retail price minus vat? Which company did u used? Is there anyone can manage the whole affair of importing for u as I hav a very busy schedule?

QUOTE(lanun8 @ Feb 23 2010, 10:29 AM)
When ur car manufacturing date? Mine was in sept 1999, the docket price is €25000.. And the exchange rate was 4.8.. U should check the docket price 1st matey..

The shipping duration is around 5 - 6 weeks..

There's no diff if u bring in the s2k from eu, i brought my honda from uk too..
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Hi, where do u checked docket price?  I  thought its the retail price minus vat? Which company did u used? Is there anyone can manage the whole affair of importing for u as I hav a very busy schedule?
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1. you can google internet or if ive not mistaken there is a list on cars docket price at MITI website, try to find the article from document 11(doc 11 is about bringing car back home) coz i had downloaded it last years and sadly couldnt remember where did i save it...

2. ok im not a economist so im assuming VAT=valorem added tax from my 101 econs years ago..so the docket price is the price when the car just rolled out the factory without any additional tax+excise or whatsoever(correct me if im wrong)...damn pure price FTW!!!


3.well its damn alot runners you can choose!!..what i can advise you is get few quotes and compare them, you can get reference from forumers here..well worst case scenario if dont get one, i'll get your things done with competitive pay!(hope its more than my annual leave trade off cost =p)

personally, an interesting case since its related to free AP on experts coming back home..well feel free to holla us for info..the best is ring MITI and ask the procedures, dont forget to get the officer's name

the best case since lame "please calculate my tax" thread...


btw, s2000!!!! damn rad car!!...no interest in lotus? hehe coz im dying the drive one.. =p

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Seriously, if u re interested, I would like to acquire your service and expertise( and the opportunity also open to all members in this forum), Plz PM me your phone number. I asked MITI already as S2000 is rare car in Malaysia, no docket price is available.

My S2000 is modified, lots of time invloved in assembling the turbo parts, tuning by famous US tuner, Mase with power up to 500 bhp, corner weight balancing with Ohlins suspension achieving 50:50 balancing by F1 Red bull technician based in UK, Thats why the hassle to bring it back as I am not likely to own another car like this. I am happy to give u a ride as soon as the car docked in port klang tongue.gif

ps:: I am on holiday in Malaysia and will be leaving back to UK on this coming Friday

QUOTE(graham_flag @ Feb 23 2010, 10:22 PM)
1. you can google internet or if ive not mistaken there is a list on cars docket price at MITI website, try to find the article from document 11(doc 11 is about bringing car back home) coz i had downloaded it last years and sadly couldnt remember where did i save it...

2. ok im not a economist so im assuming VAT=valorem added tax from my 101 econs years ago..so the docket price is the price when the car just rolled out the factory without any additional tax+excise or whatsoever(correct me if im wrong)...damn pure price FTW!!!
3.well its damn alot runners you can choose!!..what i can advise you is get few quotes and compare them, you can get reference from forumers here..well worst case scenario if dont get one, i'll get your things done with competitive pay!(hope its more than my annual leave trade off cost =p)

personally, an interesting case since its related to free AP on experts coming back home..well feel free to holla us for info..the best is ring MITI and ask the procedures, dont forget to get the officer's name

the best case since lame "please calculate my tax" thread...
btw, s2000!!!! damn rad car!!...no interest in lotus? hehe coz im dying the drive one.. =p
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QUOTE(leslieng @ Feb 24 2010, 10:46 AM)
Seriously, if u re interested, I would like to acquire your service and expertise( and the opportunity also open to all members in this forum), Plz PM me your phone number. I asked MITI already as S2000 is rare car in Malaysia, no docket price is available.

My S2000 is modified, lots of time invloved in assembling the turbo parts, tuning by famous US tuner, Mase with power up to 500 bhp, corner weight balancing with Ohlins suspension achieving 50:50 balancing by F1 Red bull technician based in UK, Thats why the hassle to bring it back as I am not likely to own another car like this. I am happy to give u a ride as soon as the car docked in port klang tongue.gif

ps:: I am on holiday in Malaysia and will be leaving back to UK on this coming Friday
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How much have you been spending on your s2k? Tats hell lots of mod. Wondering wat can I do with a 500bhp s2k. I own a s2k too, all stock though. I rmb someone said in the earlier reply that moded car may be charged more for taxes. May b you can try to ask those recond car dealer in msia. I have seen some dealer selling s2k in mudah.my. Kindly update me too if you get to know the docket price. Cheers!!
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U dont want to know how much I spend smile.gif Its too late now to ask car dealer here as I am busy preparing and packing to leave Malaysia tomorrow, but I reckon no less than RM$200,000 based on autotrader. My car is listed on S2k forum in UK, My forum name is rambo1. U can see my car there biggrin.gif


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How much have you been spending on your s2k? Tats hell lots of mod. Wondering wat can I do with a 500bhp s2k. I own a s2k too, all stock though. I rmb someone said in the earlier reply that moded car may be charged more for taxes. May b you can try to ask those recond car dealer in msia. I have seen some dealer selling s2k in mudah.my. Kindly update me too if you get to know the docket price. Cheers!!
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ok 1 question..
what did MITI tell you?
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Called MITI, I can apply for AP but not tax free as I am not intended to work in Malaysia but in Singapore. As mentioned in this forum, there will be significant deduction in tax due to the age of the car.

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ok 1 question..
what did MITI tell you?
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QUOTE(leslieng @ Feb 25 2010, 06:01 PM)
U dont want to know how much I spend smile.gif Its too late now to ask car dealer here as I am busy preparing and packing to leave Malaysia tomorrow, but I reckon no less than RM$200,000 based on autotrader. My car is listed on S2k forum in UK, My forum name is rambo1. U can see my car there biggrin.gif
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Tats the price after tax + their earning. The one we need is the docket price which i think shd b +- rm140k, not rily sure though. Pls pls update me if you eventually found out the docket price or after you imported the car into msia eh notworthy.gif ..
Btw, 1 noob question here. Wat sort of battery did s2k use? Was it NS60 or NS40(smaller 1)? Mine comes with a small cute NS40??
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I just arrived back to UK:) I use local brand by Halford not OEM battery. Will need to ask around for the docket price.....


QUOTE(OOOOPP! @ Feb 26 2010, 01:28 PM)
Tats the price after tax + their earning. The one we need is the docket price which i think shd b +- rm140k, not rily sure though. Pls pls update me if you eventually found out the docket price or after you imported the car into msia eh notworthy.gif ..
Btw, 1 noob question here. Wat sort of battery did s2k use? Was it NS60 or NS40(smaller 1)? Mine comes with a small cute NS40??
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My gf is in UK. planning to take in one Used Mini Coooper. Can i know, is it worth?i need some sifu here to provide me more info...
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Hi guys,

my friend who graduated with Bachelor Degree on 2006(UK) is currently working in UK as professional oil&gas related engineer for 3 yrs to date, he is coming back to Malaysia for good next year(2011 - by then will have 4 yrs+ working experience) and he wish to bring 2 cars back from UK, is he eligible under the program of "INCENTIVES UNDER THE PROGRAMME TO ENCOURAGE MALAYSIAN CITIZENS WITH EXPERTISE RESIDING OVERSEAS TO RETURN TO MALAYSIA"?

I saw the "FIELDS OF EXPERTISE" from http://www.mohr.gov.my/index.php?option=co...=140&Itemid=231
it stated that professional with Bachelor Degree must work at least 6 yrs, is it possible to get 'discount' over this issue? or any alternatives?
please advise.

Thank you~

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Hi guys,

I'm a malaysian citizen , studied 4 years in australian and planning to work here as an engineer for 3-4 years. I'm planning to buy an Evo X which cost about AUD$70,000 and will be bringing it back to malaysia after 3-4 years when i'm going back for good.

Can someone tell me how it works , like what sort of taxes i'll need to pay and at what rate ?

Thank you so much
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QUOTE(whitemonster @ Mar 5 2010, 09:04 AM)
Hi guys,

I'm a malaysian citizen , studied 4 years in australian and planning to work here as an engineer for 3-4 years. I'm planning to buy an Evo X which cost about AUD$70,000 and will be bringing it back to malaysia after 3-4 years when i'm going back for good.

Can someone tell me how it works , like what sort of taxes i'll need to pay and at what rate ?

Thank you so much
with a B.Sc. ... as mentioned, 6 years working.. you'll get tax free... less than that, standard tax rates applies... b.t.w. PHD only requires 2 years...
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cool , so if i worked here for 6 years after owning the car , i can bring it back tax free which is quite good

btw , do you have a list of the standard tax rate ?

thanks so much beast
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what would be the tax if i want to bring my car back from labuan?? i'm going over end of this month and i want to calc if its worth to get a car there.
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ask a stupid question,if sumone ask b4,then dun scold me......Let say now 2010,at japan a 2006 toyota estima is about RM88,000.00,do i need to find the docket price for it to import it into malaysia?

Ok,i found a list with all docket price http://media.paultan.org/pricelist.pdf

According to it,the docket price for estiam 2.4cc is RM72,380

so after i done the calculation with using http://www.floristhut.com/taxkastam4.htm

after -15%
=RM61,523.00

-58% for 4 years
=RM25,839.66

RM25,839.66+RM1200+RM387.59
=RM27,427.25

duti import=5%
Duti eksais=90%
sale duti=10%=RM5,471.74

all add together is RM32,761.85<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<THIS IS TAXATION FOR 1 ESTIMA?


so if my cost for estima is RM88,000.00+RM32,761.85=RM120,761.25<<<<<<<include taxation for 1 estima??

correct me if im wrong wif the calculation......

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correct me if im wrong wif the calculation......
Import duty is at 30% not 5%.... tax will be at RM 47,092.59
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Import duty is at 30% not 5%.... tax will be at RM 47,092.59
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Soli,but i got i more question to ask,if i buy AP from those AP kings,can i also do the rayuan discount from custom?How do i do tat?

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Hey guys........I'm currently a student in the UK, and I am really confused with this AP mumbo jumbo, so I really need your help smile.gif

If I do get an AP, does it mean that the car I'm importing from the UK will be EXEMPTED FROM TAX? (as in RM0)

Thx for your help smile.gif


Edit : Oh dear I've just read the previous posts and looks like it's gonna be a whole SHITLOAD of tax

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Hi guys

Im a malaysian currently in the UK and would have qualified for the 'Programme to Encourage Malaysian Citizens with Expertise Residing Overseas to Return to Malaysia' thing.

Ive been reading this thread at one go and like many others cant help but being slightly confused as to how it works.

I suppose my ultimate question is that, if I were to buy a car from here, in addition to the cost of the car itself as well as the shipping from UK to Msia, will there be any other cost pertaining to it? ie will the tax be absolutely zero under this programme?

If anybody (I saw quite a number of knowledgeable ppl here lol) could enlighten me on this i will be extremely grateful happy.gif

many thanks
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Hi guys

Im a malaysian currently in the UK and would have qualified for the 'Programme to Encourage Malaysian Citizens with Expertise Residing Overseas to Return to Malaysia' thing.

Ive been reading this thread at one go and like many others cant help but being slightly confused as to how it works.

I suppose my ultimate question is that, if I were to buy a car from here, in addition to the cost of the car itself as well as the shipping from UK to Msia, will there be any other cost pertaining to it? ie will the tax be absolutely zero under this programme?

If anybody (I saw quite a number of knowledgeable ppl here lol) could enlighten me on this i will be extremely grateful happy.gif

many thanks
0 tax.....

p.s. If you're a PhD holder you only need 2 years working in that field (listed by the gov) to qualify
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How about the driving license? I'm planning on bringing my bike to Malaysia this May but my driving license is still P. I tried calling the office but can't manage to get through. Anyone here know the answer for this?
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How about the driving license? I'm planning on bringing my bike to Malaysia this May but my driving license is still P. I tried calling the office but can't manage to get through. Anyone here know the answer for this?
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u need full m'sian driving license. Thats is not an option matey..
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u need full m'sian driving license. Thats is not an option matey..
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Oh man this is really bad. I already got all documents ready to bring the bike this May. You sure about this? You have asked the MITI office? sad.gif
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Oh man this is really bad. I already got all documents ready to bring the bike this May. You sure about this? You have asked the MITI office?  sad.gif
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last time i knew was MUST have full licence..but think had bumped into a "P holders can apply", not sure where n when..being so forgetful lately..

haha bout "You have asked MITI office", i wonder who's really the applicant hehe..
ask someone go to MITI and ask for confirmation, otherwise seek for document 11 in the miti website..
btw, you are from the States eh?
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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Mar 30 2010, 10:41 PM)
last time i knew was MUST have full licence..but think had bumped into a "P holders can apply", not sure where n when..being so forgetful lately..

haha bout "You have asked MITI office", i wonder who's really the applicant hehe..
ask someone go to MITI and ask for confirmation, otherwise seek for document 11 in the miti website..
btw, you are from the States eh?
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Yup, I'm from the States and can't wait to go back to Malaysia smile.gif. I already called MITI office and they said that I can use my P license to bring the bike back home. Ain't that nice rclxms.gif . Now all I need to do is prepare the cash to pay the tax grumble.gif
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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Mar 30 2010, 10:41 PM)
last time i knew was MUST have full licence..but think had bumped into a "P holders can apply", not sure where n when..being so forgetful lately..

haha bout "You have asked MITI office", i wonder who's really the applicant hehe..
ask someone go to MITI and ask for confirmation, otherwise seek for document 11 in the miti website..
btw, you are from the States eh?
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hey graham, do we need the purchase invoice for the application?
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post Apr 2 2010, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(OOOOPP! @ Apr 2 2010, 07:20 AM)
hey graham, do we need the purchase invoice for the application?
no need.... you just need proof of ownership of more than 9 months.... like the.... registration card....

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post Apr 4 2010, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Apr 2 2010, 11:30 AM)
no need.... you just need proof of ownership of more than 9 months.... like the.... registration card....
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yeah i feel you bro, must be the receipt/invoice eh? dont worry, tell them that you bought it from private, hence no purchase invoice..rego n dereg form are compulsory...
dude cant wait to feel your ride bro hehe
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hi, im also a student whos about to go back for good. from what i understand, you got this AP once in a life time, meaning even if i am to come back or work oversea in the future, i wont have it anymore if i use it now?

one more thing, there are few person asking me to sell my AP. how does this work?
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QUOTE(vcxv @ Apr 7 2010, 06:04 AM)
hi, im also a student whos about to go back for good. from what i understand, you got this AP once in a life time, meaning even if i am to come back or work oversea in the future, i wont have it anymore if i use it now?

one more thing, there are few person asking me to sell my AP. how does this work?
Yes once in a life-time.....

Selling AP/car would be troublesome.... the car has to be under your name for 2 years after importation.. before you can transfer the ownership (As will be stated on your registration card).
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how to calc tax if i'm buying a 2004 suzuki solio from labuan? the car is new only old stock. selling price 34k. couldnt figure out the kastam tax calc as its for imported cars from overseas iirc...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Apr 2 2010, 11:30 AM)
no need.... you just need proof of ownership of more than 9 months.... like the.... registration card....
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QUOTE(graham_flag @ Apr 4 2010, 03:22 PM)
yeah i feel you bro, must be the receipt/invoice eh? dont worry, tell them that you bought it from private, hence no purchase invoice..rego n dereg form are compulsory...
dude cant wait to feel your ride bro hehe
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Thanks for the answer notworthy.gif


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post Apr 9 2010, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(GuN @ Apr 8 2010, 10:32 PM)
how to calc tax if i'm buying a 2004 suzuki solio from labuan? the car is new only old stock. selling price 34k. couldnt figure out the kastam tax calc as its for imported cars from overseas iirc...
Same tax applies..... you just dont need an AP
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 24 2010, 04:27 PM)
0 tax.....

p.s. If you're a PhD holder you only need 2 years working in that field (listed by the gov) to qualify
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What about the ownership of the car? Is the 9 months period apply to the program??
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QUOTE(jason5413 @ Apr 16 2010, 06:32 AM)
What about the ownership of the car? Is the 9 months period apply to the program??
If I'm not mistaken you can get a brand new one in Malaysia (BMW/Merc/Toyota) ....or from overseas without tax (you pay for shipping and dock handling prices though)
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hey beastX
maybe this question has been asked though
but lets just assume this is for the benefit of the masses

whats the normal rate of the price for AP will be charged should we intend to bring a car from overseas into malaysia via grey importers

thanks

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