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takuntung
post Mar 24 2009, 03:09 AM

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see many people asking for how to calculate the tax, I have developed a Kastam tax calculator .Maybe BeastX can verify the method of calculation.

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post Apr 4 2009, 04:08 AM

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juz to remind anyone who will bring back car, pls check your engine no and chasis no must be the same as the registrartion book. My fren had a prob with his car coz the engine no is diffrent. maybe the previous owner had change the engine, dun know how did he kowtim dgn kastam.
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post Apr 7 2009, 06:27 PM

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i found that the docket price is much lower compared to the price in the pdf file provided by kastam,
For eg; pdf file price for MERC BENZ,C 200 Kompressor,Car,1796=RM120,526
but the real doket price only E17700, refer http://m4j1h4.fotopages.com/?entry=1098193

anyone have any idea?



takuntung
post Apr 7 2009, 07:35 PM

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the fotopages link given is the real example of the car tax calculation, so I think the docket price E17700 must be from the kastam.
takuntung
post Apr 28 2009, 03:37 AM

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Those APs for cronies maaa ,not for us, ours is student/working overc AP, maybe different.

Btw, can someone test my car tax calculator, i think its working now.

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takuntung
post May 1 2009, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(zemmhassim @ May 1 2009, 03:01 AM)
the tax is 221.75%? Thought it was going to be around 150%.


Added on May 1, 2009, 3:14 am

Nice calculator takuntung! I tried and here are my findings:

1. The Insurance field cannot be populated. It wont accept anything that I typed in. Default now is zero.
2. Sales tax. Isn't this field supposed to be a percentage that I can get from the link for import and excise tax? The value defaulted in there definitely not 10%. Not sure how this is calculated.
3. Is docket price the same as CIF value?
4. The depreciation discount, is it based on Production date (manufactured) or the model year? My car was manufactured in Oct 2006, but identified as 2007 model.

Using your calculator, I'll be glad to pay the government RM4k for bringing in my X5..which seems too low.

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Thanks zemmhassim,
Only 4k for X5 2006 rclxub.gif , I think there must sth wrong when u key in the value.
1. The insurance field is alraedy calculated for u, its 1.5% from (total after all deductions)
2. Sales tax is also calculated 10% from (Nilai Kastam+DI+DE)
3. yup
4. not sure.

I tried to calculate your car tax using my calculator, I assume that when you bring back your car, it is 3 yrs old (48% depreciation), and shipping is from UK, and it is 3 liter engine. The docket price posted by someone here is (pdf file) is RM161499.

The tax before discount is RM 117, 532.99. Where do u get 4 K? rclxub.gif refer here

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post May 2 2009, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ May 1 2009, 08:52 AM)
They tax yor tax/duty... with sales tax taxing all the tax/duty + value... so in the end, the compounded tax is effectively 221.75% for more than 3L
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Yup, they tax on tax. Based on caculation here, Duti eksais(DE) is only calculated from Nilai kastam (NK) which is 80% x 15034.04 = RM 12027.23.

But one of my fren was taxed differently last few months.

His DE was based from (Nilai kastam + Duti import) which is 80% x (15034.04 + 4510.21) = RM 15635.4. U see, dekat 3 k lari.

Which method is correct, I am not sure. But there is inconsistency in their calculation. Itu yg saya takut.

I know most people bring back their car wont argue about calculated tax from kastam, but u really should know how to calculate them yourself.

Ada satu lagi kes lagi teruk, I try to calculate based on the eg. above, he should be taxed around 67k b4 rayuan, but kastam kira 90+K, but after rayuan , he was taxed 60+.

so my advise, u should know how to calculate the tax, or roughly estimate your tax, maybe you can save 20k +...for correct tax calculation.

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post May 11 2009, 02:37 AM

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use calculator maaaa...veli easi one...
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post May 25 2009, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 23 2009, 05:23 PM)
hey beastX
what about this man?
http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan...da/nsx/1847918/

can u calculate for me?
how to find the retail price in 1991 anyway?
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not worth bring back car yr 91, this is due the car tax reduction is not linear correspond to age of your car, refer the following graph: tax vs year so u can see my point, juz my 2 cents

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the best age to buy is 5-7 yrs old car, after that, dpreciation will not have much difference.

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post May 29 2009, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Res Ipsa Loquitor @ May 28 2009, 04:22 AM)
Hi, I have just logged into my lowyat forum username after many years, so i can be considered quite new in this.

I need some URGENT help in regards to my taxes.

I own a Honda Civic Type R 2007 (European Edition) in Australia and I am intending to bring it back to Malaysia.

I bought it for AUD 43,000 in November 2007. I would really appreciate it if someone can help me calculate the taxes for this car. I dont know if anyone has imported this vehicle to Malaysia yet, so I am assuming that it would be the only European Type R in Malaysia as compared to the JDM Civic Type R 2007.

Please give me a rundown on my taxes and  the price after (possible discounts)

I am studying in Australia.

Thank you


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I dun know the docket price, I assume you bring back the car this NOV (car age 2yrs) and I assume the docket price is AUD 43K which i think is much higher than the real docket price. The estimated tax is RM82 K.
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post May 29 2009, 04:59 PM

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In my opinion, whatever car age you bring back is still cheaper than Msian market price. What I want to stress here is that, it is better to get a newer car coz the tax reduction after 10 yrs are not much. For ex. 20 yrs old car tax and 15 yrs old car tax will only differ around RM5k only. So better pay a bit more tax and get much newer car. juz my 2 cents.

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post May 30 2009, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ May 29 2009, 05:13 PM)
Depends on the initial FOB value, and the engine's cc (the bigger the engine the larger the difference in payable tax from year to year)... The FOB value at 15 years old is 41% less than at 10 years old.
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If we are talking about "amount" of tax to be paid, definitely it varies depend on many parameters such car price, cc, etc. However if we talk about "percentage" of reduction, whatever cars you plot, it will give a similar to "minus exponential" graph as shown above. This means, the "percentage" of reduction will be the same. Thus , whatever car u bring back, the tax for the car after certain period(>10yrs) will not differ much due to minus exponential curve.
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post Jun 27 2009, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jun 27 2009, 03:48 AM)
depends on preference dude
some people, like me, is looking quite hard to get a '90s NSX and such cars are niche
some can suggest that at that price, i can get a newer reliable car and perhaps a family car, but its all preference dude
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but i still dont understand why its not worth it to bring in a '90s car
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why so hard to ustd? I didnt say its not worth to bring back 90s car , as i said earlier, whatever car age you bring back, usually is much cheaper than Msia market price, so it is worthwhile.

my point is if you have 2 same cars to buy, one is 15 yrs and the other is 10 yrs, it is better to get the 10 yrs car coz the amount of tax to be paid will not differ much. This is due to minus exponential curve as explained b4. To be worth or not, I recommend to check msia market price first coz some cars are not worth to bring back, for ex: proton smile.gif
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post Jul 19 2009, 07:50 PM

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Yup, gud job by dannywss, rclxms.gif
graham, what car did u bring back? mind sharing it here, and 1 more thing, like your avatar, vary catchy thumbup.gif

QUOTE(graham_flag @ Jul 16 2009, 11:11 PM)
good job bro!! i did all those before but too lazy to type them down here..yeah some cars are worth for collection namely nsx,fto,mr2 and integra, even AE86!..even they are considerably old cars but the price sometimes skyrocketing lol...
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post Sep 12 2009, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 10 2009, 08:26 AM)
Lets say you exceed 48 months (less than 54 months).. 58% off FOB value.

A bigger cut in taxes, if your car in more than 60 months (5 years)

You're looking at about £14,416 in taxes... or RM83.3k (before appeal).. with the current tax rate, will be revised this month and unknown when it will be implemented.
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tax rate will be revised? mmmmph...any ref.?
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post Sep 25 2009, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Sep 22 2009, 07:03 PM)
assumed it's a 2.6ltr vehicles?? wow... 55k USD x1.5 is hellalot sleep.gif
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yup, we pay a lot for car tax and many malaysians still dun realize this.. what to do , we live in this boleh land which have this kind of mentality "if u dun wan to pay toll, u boleh naik lembu kereta" , so same goes here, if u dun wan to pay car tax, u boleh naik lembu juga..

btw, i dun mind to pay this tax actually as long we have clean & transparent gomen, where the money really-really goes back to rakyat, like free highway(UK), free water (eire) free education (germany), etc.... arrghh stop dreaming.
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post Sep 27 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(kamen87 @ Sep 26 2009, 05:41 PM)
hello there.
how about bring back the motorcycle <100cc??is it the same procedure and price??
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i also plan to bring back mini moto 50cc, dunno got to apply AP or not
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post Sep 28 2009, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 27 2009, 04:34 PM)
I heard you can "sell" your AP.

Heard its going for RM20k or £5k. Any buyers interested tongue.gif
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£5k AP to bring back mini moto, mmmm, maybe u can buy 10 units of mini motos in Msia laugh.gif


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post Jan 7 2010, 04:33 AM

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use calculator maaaa... vely easi one
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post Jan 12 2010, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(Bedok @ Jan 7 2010, 10:39 AM)
This is my tax calculation when I brought back my w203 c180 elegance a few months ago.

Docket price:              DM 41200
* the car was first registered in 11/2000 according to the v5 document so no euro yet, Germany still uses Deutsche Mark. It is weird that they use Germany currency for Mercedes docket price no matter where it was actually assembled in, ie South Africa.

Peralihan:    -15%              DM 35020

Depreciation:  11/2000 - 11/2005    -70%              DM 10506
                                  - 11/2006    -10%              DM 9455.4
                                  - 11/2007    -10%              DM 8509.86
                                  - 11/2008    -10%              DM 7658.874
* eventhough the car gets to port in September, they refused to grant another 10% because it is not full year. The difference this 10% made to the final tax is roughly RM1300 which pisses me off so much. Dua bulan pun nak kira.
TOTAL:                                  DM 7658.87

CIF:
Cost  =  7658.87 x 1.73333 = RM 13275.12
Insurance =                            RM  199.13
Freight =                                RM  1700.00
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CIF                                        RM 15174.25
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*The exchange that they used is badly outdated I bet so the actual Docket price in RM is soooo low in comparison to Euro priced counterparts due to the high Euro exchange. A 2001 (which will use Euro) can have up to 20% increase in the docket price.

Discounts:
Custom Selangor :  -20%            RM 12139.4
Custom Putrajaya :  -10%            RM 10925.46
AFTER DISCOUNT:                        RM 10925.46

* Due to some over eager b**tards  mad.gif , they clamped down on discounts so the maximum any one person can get now is limited to 30%. I heard a story about a guy that get upwards of 45% before but it is no more.

Payment Calculation:
Duty : 30%                        RM 3277.638
Excise : 80%                      RM 11362.4784
Sales Tax : 10%                  RM 2556.55764
TOTAL TAX :                        RM 17196.68

* They did calculation without the discounts and it should have been RM 23884.28 so with full 30% discount I saved roughly RM 5700
* If we used Beastx's effective rate for tax calculation which is RM 10925.46 x 157.4%, we get the exact amount but with little less pening kepala.
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Thank you bedok for sharing your car tax calculation, based on my car tax calculator , the total tax is RM17,945, slightly higher than your tax which is RM17196. This is because, you are lucky to get discount based on CIF value. My car tax calculator is based from here. So discount is calculated before CIF value. It is based on the car value after depreciation deduction. However it doesnt matter coz the difference only around 900RM but it gud 4 u

What I am trying to say here, this Kasatam does not have standard calculation method...plsss la mr ketam, publish one UPDATED standard calc. method on ur website...

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