This is my tax calculation when I brought back my w203 c180 elegance a few months ago.

Docket price: DM 41200
* the car was first registered in 11/2000 according to the v5 document so no euro yet, Germany still uses Deutsche Mark. It is weird that they use Germany currency for Mercedes docket price no matter where it was actually assembled in, ie South Africa.

Peralihan: -15% DM 35020

Depreciation: 11/2000 - 11/2005 -70% DM 10506
- 11/2006 -10% DM 9455.4
- 11/2007 -10% DM 8509.86
- 11/2008 -10% DM 7658.874
* eventhough the car gets to port in September, they refused to grant another 10% because it is not full year. The difference this 10% made to the final tax is roughly RM1300 which pisses me off so much. Dua bulan pun nak kira.
TOTAL: DM 7658.87

CIF:
Cost = 7658.87 x 1.73333 = RM 13275.12
Insurance = RM 199.13
Freight = RM 1700.00
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CIF RM 15174.25
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*The exchange that they used is badly outdated I bet so the actual Docket price in RM is soooo low in comparison to Euro priced counterparts due to the high Euro exchange. A 2001 (which will use Euro) can have up to 20% increase in the docket price.

Discounts:
Custom Selangor : -20% RM 12139.4
Custom Putrajaya : -10% RM 10925.46
AFTER DISCOUNT: RM 10925.46

* Due to some over eager b**tards , they clamped down on discounts so the maximum any one person can get now is limited to 30%. I heard a story about a guy that get upwards of 45% before but it is no more.

Payment Calculation:
Duty : 30% RM 3277.638
Excise : 80% RM 11362.4784
Sales Tax : 10% RM 2556.55764
TOTAL TAX : RM 17196.68

* They did calculation without the discounts and it should have been RM 23884.28 so with full 30% discount I saved roughly RM 5700
* If we used Beastx's effective rate for tax calculation which is RM 10925.46 x 157.4%, we get the exact amount but with little less pening kepala.

I know some people who buy student APs as a business but they all based in the UK so if your friend is studying there, I can PM you their contacts.

To find the docket price, you find the price when it is new in the UK and minus 17.5% VAT paid so you will get the price minus tax for the car.

Docket price in lament term is original price with no tax on it whatsoever. Some company (Audi/BMW/Mercedes) have a tax free sales department so you can estimate the docket price there.

I am too lazy to do that and since that 50k seems too low for an M3 (imho) I just used 50k and put it into takuntung's tax calculator and get a total tax of RM97000-ish. This is assuming the docket price is 50k pounds and the exchange rate is at RM5.6 to a pound. I also assume you get the full 30% discount.

If you look at the first page of that pdf, it says clearly that it is for "ap terbuka" or Open AP which is different from these students AP. I am currently in the process of importing 2 cars under the Human Resources Ministry/MoF so I will be asking around about the student ap/tax calculation while I am there.

Eh? Can pay by cash? When I brought my car back I had to get a Bankers Draft or whatever its called from CIMB payable to "Ketua Pengarah Selangor". Trying to make one for 17k in the middle of Klang Town before 4 o'clock to make sure I can get the car out the same day was a nightmare. When I was doing mine up, the guy in front of me made 4 bankers draft (he's a runner) totaled at a cool 250k. The amount of money our custom made is astronomical lol.

I live in the UK for 13 years and drove cars for the last 10. You do not need driving license to buy a car but you need it to buy insurance. What Malaysians normally did is buy buying the insurance online (most famous is Norwich Union/Aviva) and when they asked about license just say that you have international license. All you need is the cover note to get roadtax for it.

But, if you get pulled over by the bobbies, you will get in trouble but it usually only involved summons/court and the car is impounded. Most of the Malaysians use cheap cars so when it get impounded, they did not even bother to claim it back (it cost upward of 500 pounds just to lcaim the car back and you need someone with a full UK license holder for 2 years and insurance cover note that include the driver to claim the car). The police will just ask whether you wanted the car back or get it scrapped when hes towing the car off.

I used Malaysian driving license until the last 2 years I was there when I was stopped over on my way to work . I end up getting a full UK license but I still drove my car while I was doing that. I dont want to do it because apparently my friend that helped me get the car from the impound lot may get in trouble too if I get caught again but I have no choice, crappy job = crappy hours.


What you can do is try and find the original retail price in the UK as reference and just remove 17.5% off it for docket price. Just remember to print out this info too as the customs may have problem in finding docket prices for bikes themselves.

After some googling, i found that the retail price for a brand new Ducati 749s is 9600 pounds so the less-VAT price is about 8200 pounds. Your CIF range would be between 8200x6 (exchange rate then) and 8200x5 (exchange rate now) as we dont know whether they will use either exchange rate for the calculation.

Keep us updated.

P/S - sweet ride, man

This post has been edited by Bedok: Jul 13 2010, 05:22 PM

Thats a great idea, find a car that have roughly the same selling price as your bike in the UK and use the coresponding CIF.

Putrajaya is the central custom so Selangor Custom in Port Klang I think that have the final say in finding the CIF value. They have big books in one of the officers office with all the docket prices of cars (I dont know if they have one for Bikes). Some of the latest cars that they dont have the docket price in the books yet, they will use the UK retail price as the docket, I saw the docket price for a Lambo in Euro on the whiteboard of said officer. And personally I think Custom Officers in PK is nicer than in Putrajaya. Go to Wisma Kastam outside Northport and ask to speak to an officer about CIF calculation.

Do not compare prices with Japanese cars (they get special discounts) and "special cars" (cars that the AP kings like Naza owned, like Peugeot and Kias, the CIF may be lower than it should). However, this is just my opinion, I do not have any proof to what I said.

P/S - CIF is Cost+Insurance+Freight. Cost is the docket price
Tax is calculated on the CIF, so even though your CIF is higher than cars, the percentage of tax you pay will be lower
eg . Nissan Micra have CIF the same as your bike, let say RM20,000
Effective tax for cars is like 160% so Micra tax would be around RM35,000. This is the tax you pay, not the CIF
Tax for bikes is much lower, I dont know the exact percentage but its something like 70% so the tax is RM14,000.

This post has been edited by Bedok: Jul 14 2010, 01:51 PM

If she is on scholarship, no. If she is paying for studies herself, yes. Btw, she is not "entitled". She can apply for these APs under "Program Pakar" and it is up to MoHR to approve her app or not.

One of the condition of the programme is she is not allowed to leave the country for the next 5 years unless getting written approval from MoHR. She still have 1 year left on her studies and still have 2 years housemanship so that will be 3 years from now. We do not know whats the government's policy going to be then.

Hi

You have 2 choices:
1 - Apply for "Program Pakar" incentive where you can bring back 2 cars tax free under 1 name (whomever applied). Please check Ministry of Human Resources for application forms and conditions. You can also bring another car under personal AP for your wife but this car you have to pay tax for.
2 - Apply for 2 personal AP, both your wife and yourself can apply for 1 AP each on condition that you live legally oversea for more than a year either as a student or working. You have to pay tax on these cars and dont forget that on personal APs, you can apply for discounts from Customs for up to 30%. As far as I know, on personal APs, they do not use the fix CIF value yet. They will use the docket price thus making the calculation a tad more confusing. Hunt around for my post on my Tax calculation in this thread and use it as an estimate. its post #427

In your case, you will have to change one car name into your name to make the AP application easier but you can talk to your agent where he can help in this issue. Dont worry, the shipping agent that you use to send your container over, assuming you are using Malaysian shipping company, can help. They will use an agent in Port Klang to handle the unloading of the container and this guy can help in applying for AP and tax/custom clearance for some fees.

If for some reason you wanted to do it yourself, these are the basic things that needed doing(this is for option 2):
1 - Apply for AP from MITI using form JK69 (3 AP, as 2 for cars and 1 for items) - they will need photocopy of your visa, V5 document, Insurance cert and plane ticket stub among other things. They have the power to call you for an interview but normally all you do is drop the form off at MITI and pick it up after 3-5 days. AP is only valid for 3 month so please only apply when the container is on the way.
2 - Port Klang - There is a lot of going back and forth here as you need to go between Port itself and Bangunan Kastam near Northport to get clearance for your container. Once they open your container, you can remove your stuff and the cars will be parked at the port for custom clearance. After that back to Bangunan Kastam for them to calculate your tax. This can take a few days as they might not believe your v5 and go there to inspect the car themselves.
3 - Discounts - You can apply for 20% discounts from Pengarah Kastam Selangor at Westport and another 10% from Putrajaya. But this is back then, I am not sure whether they still give these discounts anymore. This is where using an agent will make your life so much easier.
4 - Port Klang - Once you get the discount letters, bring it back to Bangunan Kastam to recalculate you taxes. Go to a bank to do a Bankers Draft on the exact amount addressed to Ketua Pengarah Negeri and bring it back to Bangunan Kastam to pay for the tax.
5 - Port Klang - All that done, you will go back to where your car is parked, you will have to pay parking fees (something like RM8 per day) and drive the car out. On the way out, they will check your paperwork for one last time at the gate and you are free. It is best to find trade plates for your car as you need to drive it on the road and JPJ/Police like to do roadblocks on Port Klang roads.
6 - Puspakom - Take your car and K1 form to nearest Puspakom centre and they will do checks (they will check tint, engine and chasis number and pillars around the door). I think it was RM25 or something.
7 - Insurance - get insurance for your car.
8 - eDaftar - this is the wtf moment. They just started doing this and theres only 3 company that can do it. They are lazy as hell too, whenever I call theres no one answering the phone. Check out this link : JPJ Portal
8 - JPJ - Bring your K1 and Puspakom cert (insurance cert if you have it, if not its ok as it is computerised and JPJ should have on the system that you have insurance for your car) Make sure that the company that did the edaftar has send the info over (WTF I thought its Edaftar as in ELECTRONIC) before you go to JPJ.

Pheww. Wall of text

This post has been edited by Bedok: Aug 31 2010, 03:25 AM

PALSHIPPING was the company I used anyway. Ask for Nizam. Get a container, I think its about 950+ for a 40ft (can fit 2 cars) or 600+ for a 20ft. He should know who to use as their agent in Malaysia. The guy he always use is reliable and the charges is not that bad either.

The easiest way to get docket price is find out what the price of the car brand new in the UK and remove about 17% from that price. Its not exact but it can help in doing the estimate. For Hondas, customs will use the price in Yen instead of pounds sterling.

This post has been edited by Bedok: Sep 1 2010, 01:53 AM

1) yes - the car will be registered in the UK if the owner wwanted to use it there so basically it is registered as UK car. This is the same issue if you are buying UK CBU (most of the cars in the UK are) or UK grey imports (mainly high performance Japanese car like 350z and R34)
2) yes
3) yes
4) 1 - get open AP from kings (the car have to be under 5 years old)
2 - bring it back
3 - Pay tax
4 - register under your name

1. Yes, but mostly the seller (that will use open AP instead of student AP) will charge for transport + AP price + upah which will make the end price is just slightly lower than if you buy it here. Therefore, most of them will refuse to "waste" AP on bikes. If you are looking for student AP dealers, try asking car importer shops for contact.
2. Same calculation as cars but use different rate, please check 1st post.
3. You will need AP to import parts unless you can get a student coming back from oversea to put the stuff in their container. Usually, there is no tax for personal items for students as long as it is in container and it is declared. But, the custom have the right to check and charge taxes on it.

If you read just a few post before this, you can see a guy asked the exact same question as you. A forumer suggested Palshipping if you are in the UK, I used the same company too. Just make sure you get the quotes in writing with all the info before you aggree to use their service. Get quotes for custom clearance in Malaysia too whether you wanted to do it yourselves or by using their agents.

You need to have ownership of the car for 9 month when you apply for AP no matter what your visa situation is. You can only apply for AP when you are in Malaysia as they need to see your plane tickets. It is advised that you apply for AP when the car is already in transit to prevent paperwork issue at the port.

If you wanted to come back in Oct, try and send the cars either in Sept or a week before your flight back. As soon as you arrive in Malaysia, either find an agent or start AP application yourself. It is not hard but if you live far from KL, I advise you to use an agent.

Open APs are awarded to some importers (you would be surprised at how many people actually get this service) and you can get them to import the car for you. You can also buy the AP from them and bring back any car you desire. I do have a friend that works for grey importers company and they normally charge between 50-100k for these open AP depending on the cars the customer wanted.

Hankey, could you please find out whats the tax for 2003 Range Rover 3.0 TDV6?

I had a friend that brought back a car on personal AP a few days ago and according to him, tax calculation would be the same now no matter if you are on Open or Personal AP. Therefore, that CIF pdf from page 31 can be used as tax calculation estimate for personal AP too.

Under the new system, there is no further annual 10% discount given after 5 years, therefore after 60 months old, the CIF value is the same. There is also no more "Pengarah" discounts but for personal AP there is an extra discount on final tax for how many years the car is under your name oversea. Unfortunately, there is no paperwork on this but according to him, he get 35% because he used the car for 2 years before he brought it back.

I thought you said earlier excise+import duty abolished for hybrids for personal importer. Confirmed?

This post has been edited by Bedok: Nov 9 2010, 08:40 PM

And also the same clerk have to pay more on roadtax, income tax and more expensive fuel and other necessities just so the government can offset the loss of income from car tax. The clerks' poor neighbour also have to pay for these expensive items just so that douche of a clerk can drive a vios. Not part of the solution = part of the problem.