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knape tak name preve hatchback jer? adus facepalm ...
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I don't like the name for few reasons:
1. Preve already proven brand. Just put Preve HB and people will understand. It is a Preve with a HB body. Unless the Preve name is detrimental, I don't see the need to make a new brand name and the campaign to make the brand recognised again.
2. If there is a Suprima S, is there a Suprima? People will think about this. S = Sport? So there is a Suprima C (comfort), Suprima N (Neutral)
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 7 2013, 06:04 AM)
knape tak name preve hatchback jer? adus facepalm ...
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I don't like the name for few reasons:
1. Preve already proven brand. Just put Preve HB and people will understand. It is a Preve with a HB body. Unless the Preve name is detrimental, I don't see the need to make a new brand name and the campaign to make the brand recognised again.
2. If there is a Suprima S, is there a Suprima? People will think about this. S = Sport? So there is a Suprima C (comfort), Suprima N (Neutral)
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The current DRB management doesnt like the name Preve because of it is hard to pronounce correctly.

Heard that they will kill all previous Proton legacy for future models. All with new name.

If DSZ is still managing Proton, the Preve name will remain.

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post Aug 7 2013, 06:23 AM


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Suprime = pizza

Suprima = Preve hatch, too wired
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Lepas ni kereta ni kena isi minyak kat Petronas aje lah (hints at Primax 95 Xtra) ... hehe
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post Aug 7 2013, 06:37 AM


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any pictre for interior of tis car?
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QUOTE(piap_master @ Aug 7 2013, 06:37 AM)
any pictre for interior of tis car?
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U wan pics? Go look inside a current Preve car. Hehe brows.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 7 2013, 06:23 AM)
Suprime = pizza

Suprima = Preve hatch, too wired
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suprime =/= Pizza , I can't even find the pizza named suprime..



I really don't agree with Proton, always comes with new names. For their model, except certain model such as Saga.

Look at Honda. how long they use same name for their Accord,Civic and City Series.

Look at Gen 2 and Persona, both of them is similar, why need to change name?



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QUOTE(kae7 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:10 AM)
suprime =/= Pizza , I can't even find the pizza named suprime..
I really don't agree with Proton, always comes with new names. For their model, except certain model such as Saga.

Look at Honda. how long they use same name for their Accord,Civic and City Series.

Look at Gen 2 and Persona, both of them is similar, why need to change name?
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i read that name and i thought that is accord rebadge will be a good news for us.... laugh.gif

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post Aug 7 2013, 07:46 AM


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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:38 AM)
i read that name and i that that is accord rebadge will be a good news for us....  laugh.gif
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erm... Suprima from accord platform? meaning current Preve = accord rebadge?
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No big deal just a name only.
If they never let you dissapointed of after sales services that is fine
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:46 AM)
erm... Suprima from accord platform? meaning current Preve = accord rebadge?
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diff name, like wira they just name it as wira hatchback smile.gif that why i thought they launch a new car which is the accord rebadge tongue.gif

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a confused company trying to confuse buyers with their confused naming conventions.
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Why is everyone mad? It's just a name... Cerato came out of nowhere but no one's complaining.
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Aug 7 2013, 08:01 AM)
Why is everyone mad? It's just a name... Cerato came out of nowhere but no one's complaining.
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thought oversea also using Cerato this name too?
K3 is unofficial name, it look more like product model number only...
just like K5 (model no) = Optima (model name)...
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U wan pics? Go look inside a current Preve car. Hehe  brows.gif
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Aug 7 2013, 08:01 AM)
Why is everyone mad? It's just a name... Cerato came out of nowhere but no one's complaining.
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Cerato is ok coz it's a new car although Cerato nameplate isn't new. The new Cerato got both sedan & hatchback which both maintain the Cerato nameplate.

It would take a while for people to get used to the Suprima name while they calling it Preve hatchback. Same goes with Gen2 & Persona when most people at the time still calling it Gen2 sedan before comfortably calling its actual name Persona as we do today. The new name would stick eventually.
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Aug 7 2013, 08:10 AM)
thought oversea also using Cerato this name too?
K3 is unofficial name, it look more like product model number only...
just like K5 (model no) = Optima (model name)...
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Kia K name is official but differs with other country due to either its impossibruuuuu!!!!to pronounce, the name has been licensed by other company, sexual or offensive euphemism or joke (K9 = anjing in English speaking countries but coming from Kia, this would lead racist joke on Korean still eating dogs, MR2 = Shit in France due to phonetic pronounciation which sounded like Merde = MRDeux & etc...)

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With the "s", i hope there is significant engine output difference with existing preve cfe.
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anyone know the estimate price for this car OTR?
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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 7 2013, 10:40 AM)
With the "s", i hope there is significant engine output difference with existing preve cfe.
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most likely different mapping only.
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 7 2013, 10:02 AM)
most likely different mapping only.
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Different setting in TCU of CVT and ECU.. yesterday had a discussion with Drex Chan from EA, a guy from Racechip and comparing my test drive experience with their knowledge about Preve. Came with the conclusion it has different setting due to 17' Rim for the higher end compare to sedan Preve.

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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Aug 7 2013, 08:17 AM)
Cerato is ok coz it's a new car although Cerato nameplate isn't new. The new Cerato got both sedan & hatchback which both maintain the Cerato nameplate.

It would take a while for people to get used to the Suprima name while they calling it Preve hatchback. Same goes with Gen2 & Persona when most people at the time still calling it Gen2 sedan before comfortably calling its actual name Persona as we do today. The new name would stick eventually.
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I'm not surprise because i already know from beginning they will not retain the Preve name.

The name is alright, but of course to use Preve make more sense. But as I said, it is DRB decision. A lot of Proton engineer who original work for P3-22A/P3-21A already left the company.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 7 2013, 10:38 AM)
I'm not surprise because i already know from beginning they will not retain the Preve name.

The name is alright, but of course to use Preve make more sense.  But as I said, it is DRB decision. A lot of Proton engineer who original work for P3-22A/P3-21A already left the company.
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Where does engineer go then? Other local assembly plant?

Then we can expect same reduced quality for the other CKD stuff.
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Oh mai. The rims. Simply take from inspira. Can design buntut but cant design new rims
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Where does engineer go then? Other local assembly plant?

Then we can expect same reduced quality for the other CKD stuff.
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All those CKD people most of them ex-Proton to begin with. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ravenlost @ Aug 7 2013, 11:12 AM)
Oh mai. The rims. Simply take from inspira. Can design buntut but cant design new rims
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If from Inspira, didnt Proton also the designer of the rims? rclxub.gif
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WTF

Well I should at least be greatful they dint call it Preve Aeroback whistling.gif
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WTF

Well I should at least be greatful they dint call it Preve Aeroback whistling.gif
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trim a bit can become Preve Aero.. sounds not bad actually..

by putting a supreme sounding name like suprima, ppl will expect it performs supremely.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 7 2013, 11:46 AM)
All those CKD people most of them  ex-Proton to begin with.  brows.gif
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Yes, I know that's why my Honda is just like Proton in the interior plastic feel... also everything rattling.
Only engine is solid since that one imported from Japan.

At least my door handle don't break after a few months, the power window never needed repair after 8 years, interior plastic never change color after 2-3 years. Brake light never failed. (listed Proton defect is experience with Gen2)
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wonder how much OTR hmm.gif

I'm driving Gen2 and might change to this proton model because my Gen2 getting old cry.gif
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kecoh kecoh is normal.
when preve first came out people also complain pervert this that laugh.gif
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i can see why DRB Hicom insisted on using different name because it's 'hard-to-pronounce'.

1/2 hour ago i showed my dad that the Preve HB is going to be called "Suprima" and he was some kinda relieved that Proton changes the name. Many of his friends from overseas were mocking on the "Preve" name stating that it's 'too mouthful' to be uttered, unless someone teaches them the correct way to say it, so most of them would just say "PRRRVRRR"
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Aug 7 2013, 02:01 PM)
i can see why DRB Hicom insisted on using different name because it's 'hard-to-pronounce'.

1/2 hour ago i showed my dad that the Preve HB is going to be called "Suprima" and he was some kinda relieved that Proton changes the name. Many of his friends from overseas were mocking on the "Preve" name stating that it's 'too mouthful' to be uttered, unless someone teaches them the correct way to say it, so most of them would just say "PRRRVRRR"
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I'm not fond of Preve either, but... Suprima? And to think Skoda was mocked for the Superb... at least that is an above D segment car that is actually pretty good, and the name has been with the brand since the 30s or so. But calling a Proton Suprima is a bit ambitious, isn't it (apart from sounding like a tampon brand).
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 7 2013, 02:05 PM)
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I'm not fond of Preve either, but... Suprima? And to think Skoda was mocked for the Superb... at least that is an above D segment car that is actually pretty good, and the name has been with the brand since the 30s or so. But calling a Proton Suprima is a bit ambitious, isn't it (apart from sounding like a tampon brand).
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Typical malaysian la, even name also complain
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well, we can always be ambitious tongue.gif
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Ambitious but rubbish. Maybe DRB is infusing some Top Gear spirit into the car?
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I pronounce Preve as Preef.
Proton Preef.

Period.

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Luckily the Koreans are not like us or else Elantra would be vulgar language in Hokkien (his dixx big). KlA Cerato would be (Kiasi lah tu).

Simple car name also bash non stop.




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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 7 2013, 06:20 AM)
The current DRB management doesnt like the name Preve because of it is hard to pronounce correctly.

Heard that they will kill all previous Proton legacy for future models. All with new name.

If DSZ is still managing Proton, the Preve name will remain.
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I see.

QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Aug 7 2013, 08:01 AM)
Why is everyone mad? It's just a name... Cerato came out of nowhere but no one's complaining.
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I don't think people are mad. It is just about continuity. If BMW makes a a new 1 series HB, called it 8 series, people will complain. Makes no sense.

QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 7 2013, 10:38 AM)
I'm not surprise because i already know from beginning they will not retain the Preve name.

The name is alright, but of course to use Preve make more sense.  But as I said, it is DRB decision. A lot of Proton engineer who original work for P3-22A/P3-21A already left the company.
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So this car is buatan juniors?
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little birdie told me the price wont be more than 80k
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Aug 8 2013, 12:10 AM)
little birdie told me the price wont be more than 80k
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same price with current preve?
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 8 2013, 12:11 AM)
same price with current preve?
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current preve premium is 77k if imnm, i guess there would be a price reduction perhaps for the sedan.

with 3k difference, i dont think you can get a different body style, more airbag, more gizmo and gadget and mostly different trim.

the leak picture hint silver trim, most like faux aluminium perhaps
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if the collaboration with honda pulls thru, and proton will be using accord's chassis to be Proton Suprima... i guess that would be the sedan version. but then its 2 different cars. lol

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2787016/all

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I also wonder why they never named it Preve hatch, or Preve sports back or something. Changed to some brand that sounds like a loaf of bread or some canned product. It even could be a sub brand of some engine oil or petrol. Suprimak kau.
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..or maybe the "Suprima" and this Preve hatchback are 2 different entities altogether? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Aug 7 2013, 05:34 PM)
I pronounce Preve as Preef.
Proton Preef.

Period.
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while individual pronunciation is up to us, that thing is officially pronounced as "Proton Prae-vae"

source: http://paultan.org/2012/04/04/proton-preve...for-the-p3-21a/

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I just told my wife of this supposed Suprima name

Her reaction?

"sounds like something from Pizza Hut"

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QUOTE(SoZa @ Aug 8 2013, 12:16 AM)
current preve premium is 77k if imnm, i guess there would be a price reduction perhaps for the sedan.

with 3k difference, i dont think you can get a different body style, more airbag, more gizmo and gadget and mostly different trim.

the leak picture hint silver trim, most like faux aluminium perhaps
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The hatchback about Rm80k as info more new stuffs inside the car...
Hence proton also looking for Perdana replacement, so it could be this car...
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Indon-like name, maybe target Indon market ....
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 8 2013, 12:45 AM)
I also wonder why they never named it Preve hatch, or Preve sports back or something. Changed to some brand that sounds like a loaf of bread or some canned product. It even could be a sub brand of some engine oil or petrol. Suprimak kau.
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VW also name their Sedan as Jetta & Hatch as Golf, why nobody ask them to name it Golf Sedan or Jetta Hatchback ?
Peugeot also name their sedan as 207 & hatch as 206 so why not 206 sedan.
Toyota also name their Sedan as Vios & hatch as Yaris, why not Vios Hatchback ?
Hyundai also i30 & Elantra, why not Elantra hatchback or i30 sedan, i40 & Sonata, why not i40 sedan or Sonata wagon.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 8 2013, 08:35 AM)
VW also name their Sedan as Jetta & Hatch as Golf,  why nobody ask them to name it Golf Sedan or Jetta Hatchback ?
Peugeot also name their sedan as 207 & hatch as 206 so why not 206 sedan.
Toyota also name their Sedan as Vios & hatch as Yaris, why not Vios Hatchback ?
Hyundai also i30 & Elantra, why not Elantra hatchback or i30 sedan, i40 & Sonata, why not i40 sedan or Sonata wagon.
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Actually it was stupid of them to separate the Jetta/Bora and Golf, otherwise they'd constantly be the best selling car in the world.

Yaris and Vios are no longer related btw., from what I heard.
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Actually it was stupid of them to separate the Jetta/Bora and Golf, otherwise they'd constantly be the best selling car in the world.

Yaris and Vios are no longer related btw., from what I heard.
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The latest Jetta/Golf no longer share common platform i think.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 8 2013, 10:44 AM)
The latest Jetta/Golf no longer share common platform i think.
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The topic here is about name different between sedan & hatchback, I have shown P1 is not the only one even Big Car mfg do the same

These kiddo simply wanna find fault.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 8 2013, 11:40 AM)
Expect next Jetta using A6 / MQB platform as well.

The topic here is about name different between sedan & hatchback,  I have shown P1 is not the only one even Big Car mfg do the same

These kiddo simply wanna find fault.
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It's OK to give it a different name, but the problem is the name itself. biggrin.gif They could do it like Merc, BMW, Audi, ... Or give it a Malay name maybe. My favourite names (not speaking Malay) are Wira, Satria, Exora. Exotic yet easy to remember and easy to pronounce. IMHO a name doesn't have to make sense, as in be related to a real word.

Forte is a good one, while it has a meaning (strong) it is from a language that not many are familiar with here.

I also like the wind phase of VW naming. Santana, Golf, Bora, Jetta, Passat, ... Only Golf is a bit problematic.

Suprima is simply a bit tacky. Like Toyota President, Crown etc., just that with those cars the name is at least quite fitting.

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 8 2013, 08:35 AM)
VW also name their Sedan as Jetta & Hatch as Golf,  why nobody ask them to name it Golf Sedan or Jetta Hatchback ?
Peugeot also name their sedan as 207 & hatch as 206 so why not 206 sedan.
Toyota also name their Sedan as Vios & hatch as Yaris, why not Vios Hatchback ?
Hyundai also i30 & Elantra, why not Elantra hatchback or i30 sedan, i40 & Sonata, why not i40 sedan or Sonata wagon.
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Pug used numbers as an upgrade. Thats ok because most of the cars looks the same.
Golf and Jetta looks different. Not just the amount of doors. Keypoint looks very different.
Yaris also looks different from Vios.
Hyundai Elantra and i series different looks also.

And to make a point. None of your mentioned cars have 100% similar look in the front with each of the other supposedly twin model. Here the Preve looks 100% same up front. Can't tell the difference. By the time look at the side 3/4 to the back then it starts to look different. By the time hatred already set in. U get me? Key point total difference. Even though they may share same interior and platform. Its should be different. Or they could name it Preve-H. But no, its must be something overboard. Typical uncle thinking. No wonder we are lagging behind. rolleyes.gif
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Pug used numbers as an upgrade. Thats ok because most of the cars looks the same.
Golf and Jetta looks different. Not just the amount of doors. Keypoint looks very different.
Yaris also looks different from Vios.
Hyundai Elantra and i series different looks also.

And to make a point. None of your mentioned cars have 100% similar look in the front with each of the other supposedly twin model. Here the Preve looks 100% same up front. Can't tell the difference. By the time look at the side 3/4 to the back then it starts to look different. By the time hatred already set in. U get me? Key point total difference. Even though they may share same interior and platform. Its should be different. Or they could name it Preve-H. But no, its must be something overboard. Typical uncle thinking. No wonder we are lagging behind.  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 8 2013, 11:40 AM)
Expect next Jetta using A6 / MQB platform as well.

The topic here is about name different between sedan & hatchback,  I have shown P1 is not the only one even Big Car mfg do the same

These kiddo simply wanna find fault.
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naming the car properly is the first good marketing step, in my opinion proton kinda fail in naming their car, suprima for a c-segment? that just seems inappropriate.

for a d or e-segment maybe its ok. naming a c-segment as suprima that just seems wrong
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Aug 8 2013, 03:01 PM)
naming the car properly is the first good marketing step, in my opinion proton kinda fail in naming their car, suprima for a c-segment? that just seems inappropriate.

for a d or e-segment maybe its ok. naming a c-segment as suprima that just seems wrong
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Atos Prime ? ....lol...A segment some more....

So Hyundai fail or not ?




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Sounds like subprime in BM. A very famous name indeed esp. a few years ago.
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Atos Prime ? ....lol...A segment some more....

So Hyundai fail or not ?
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Yes. Though at least it only denotes the new version of the Atos, to show it is a different car. Like Satria Neo (which IMHO is much better).

In any case, if anything they should call their D segment Accord-version Suprima.

Btw.: Suprima is the name of a widespread brand of adult diaper holders and things like that.
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Google image search for Suprima if you want to see more. laugh.gif It'll be quite amusing when potential buyers google for Suprima and, well, find what they find when they google for Suprima. laugh.gif

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Proton D-segment will be called Hyprima laugh.gif
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Proton D-segment will be called Hyprima laugh.gif
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Nissan already trademarked it whistling.gif
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Wasn't this the Ultima?
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If your car is named Ultima, it better be something like that. Something with 720 hp. Then you can call your car Ultima, Suprima, Supra, ...

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remind me of supra.
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How about Grand Starex Royale ? supposed to be a cargo van name H1 like Hiace or Urvan but been modify to a MPV, should have use in 007 movie Casino Royale....lol...

Latest i10 with longer wheelbase also name i10 Grand, what so grand about a mini car...rofl...
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proton only copy Aston Martin lor, like vanquish, db9, dbs etc
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so... today is after raya? when proton going to launch this suprima s?
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so... today is after raya? when proton going to launch this suprima s?
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Rumoured next week 17th August if not mistaken.
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Proton Edar Miri, Sarawak called me to attend their Raya Open House in conjunction of the launching of a new Proton on the 16th-18th August 2013. (Because I tested their Saga FLX 1.6 SE tongue.gif)

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How about Grand Starex Royale ? supposed to be a cargo van name H1 like Hiace or Urvan but been modify to a MPV, should have use in 007 movie Casino Royale....lol...

Latest i10 with longer wheelbase also name i10 Grand,  what so grand about a mini car...rofl...
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Pictures, I din't have any. But information about the car, I have plenty smile.gif First of all, I still see no wild factor in this coming new model of Proton. The car comes with built-in features, yes. As of fully loaded? No, I don't think so. So basically it comes with 6 bags. A trunk that is even bigger than Prevè? I think so. True day-light running LED, yes not the fake one. This time, BRIGHTER. Finally it looked okay. The rims? No, it wasn't taken from Inspira. It looks better than the one on Inspira. Front and Back parking assist, yes I said front and back. A reverse camera, quite clear actually. But the player on the car, ugh -.- I can't accept that thing spoiling the whole car. That player is just SO CHEAP looking, OMGE sleep.gif At least the Finishing of the interior is slightly better, but it's more or less the same. Just look better. And no more water-repellent shit seats, this time around it comes with nicely finished napa leather seats! Oh that quality, I just love it. It's a tight one, unlike the very soft ones you find in those Luxury car like Mercedes. Which make your long ride a less pain in the ass. Other features like Hill-Assist, TCS, ESC, EBD, ABS. Player wise, it's an android player. Ugh sleep.gif Naming wise, the name is real nice. I just hope that the name won't backfire. As for release date, nothing has leaked out. Should be around the beginning of September or the end of this month
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Pictures, I din't have any. But information about the car, I have plenty smile.gif First of all, I still see no wild factor in this coming new model of Proton. The car comes with built-in features, yes. As of fully loaded? No, I don't think so. So basically it comes with 6 bags. A trunk that is even bigger than Prevè? I think so. True day-light running LED, yes not the fake one. This time, BRIGHTER. Finally it looked okay. The rims? No, it wasn't taken from Inspira. It looks better than the one on Inspira. Front and Back parking assist, yes I said front and back. A reverse camera, quite clear actually. But the player on the car, ugh -.- I can't accept that thing spoiling the whole car. That player is just SO CHEAP looking, OMGE sleep.gif At least the Finishing of the interior is slightly better, but it's more or less the same. Just look better. And no more water-repellent shit seats, this time around it comes with nicely finished napa leather seats! Oh that quality, I just love it. It's a tight one, unlike the very soft ones you find in those Luxury car like Mercedes. Which make your long ride a less pain in the ass. Other features like Hill-Assist, TCS, ESC, EBD, ABS. Player wise, it's an android player. Ugh sleep.gif Naming wise, the name is real nice. I just hope that the name won't backfire. As for release date, nothing has leaked out. Should be around the beginning of September or the end of this month
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Any info on the pricing?

As for the Hill-Assist, issit using the brakes like VW/Ford, or using slipping clutch like the current car hmm.gif
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I thought Proton Suprima gonna be a rebadge Honda Accord or something that will replace proton relic; Proton Perdana.

The name IS A PROBLEM. Front really looks like Proton Preve, it should have been name Proton Preve Hatchback or Proton Preve Sport or something. Check Ford Focus for example(Ford Focus Titanium, Ford Focus S and so on).

Bad naming will cause people to confuse.
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Wouldn't it be epic if they changed the name last minute?

I mean, the TURBO badge already leaked, except that Suprima badge.
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Any info on the pricing?

As for the Hill-Assist, issit using the brakes like VW/Ford, or using slipping clutch like the current car  hmm.gif
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It's said to be RM 7X,XXX.XX. I'm guessing RM 76k for East Msia.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 14 2013, 09:25 AM)
I thought Proton Suprima gonna be a rebadge Honda Accord or something that will replace proton relic; Proton Perdana.

The name IS A PROBLEM. Front really looks like Proton Preve, it should have been name Proton Preve Hatchback or Proton Preve Sport or something. Check Ford Focus for example(Ford Focus Titanium, Ford Focus S and so on).

Bad naming will cause people to confuse.
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Yes, the name could lead to confusion. But you cant say that by hearing the name itself is not nice @@ Just worried that it would backfire the model. The name is nice, just inappropriate.
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Wouldn't it be epic if they changed the name last minute?

I mean, the TURBO badge already leaked, except that Suprima badge.
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One cant change the name simply just like that. Im guessing that it cant be changed.
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It's said to be RM 7X,XXX.XX. I'm guessing RM 76k for East Msia.
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Do you think it worth that price with all those features? Or should we look at different brand for that kind of price?
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i thought this was a new pizza in town...
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Do you think it worth that price with all those features? Or should we look at different brand for that kind of price?
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Definitely more worth it than Jayraptor N brand Forte EX kosong which is about the same price, Also very worth it compare to KIA Rio 1.4 (4AT), 24K cheaper than Cerato & Elantra 1.6.
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Yes, the name could lead to confusion. But you cant say that by hearing the name itself is not nice @@ Just worried that it would backfire the model. The name is nice, just inappropriate.
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The name is that of an adult diaper sort of brand.

Search for Suprima and this is what you get:
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If I search for Preve, I get the Proton Preve. Focus get Ford Focus and a newspaper. Wira get Wiralution. Vios get Vios. Fiesta get Ford Fiesta. And so on. But Suprima... adult diapers. And it is pretty much the market leader in that sector, they dominate the market and are well established. A small Malaysian car maker won't push them away so easily.
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The name is that of an adult diaper sort of brand.

Search for Suprima and this is what you get:
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Godemit man....it's lunch hour  shakehead.gif
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The name is that of an adult diaper sort of brand.

Search for Suprima and this is what you get:
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If I search for Preve, I get the Proton Preve. Focus get Ford Focus and a newspaper. Wira get Wiralution. Vios get Vios. Fiesta get Ford Fiesta. And so on. But Suprima... adult diapers. And it is pretty much the market leader in that sector, they dominate the market and are well established. A small Malaysian car maker won't push them away so easily.
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adult diaper brand doh.gif
change name Now
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a cousin who runs a proton edar branch said its price is 74k++

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Best rear angle of the suprima-s
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Somehow i agree with DRBHicom to drop the Preve

Preve sounds weird
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sounds stupid the name ... stick to one name cannot meh ... like how toyota, honda, bmw does ... ..
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sounds stupid the name ... stick to one name cannot meh ... like how toyota, honda, bmw does ...  ..
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Toyota has several different names for vios. Mitsubishi has use different name for sedan and hatcbacb (mirage, lancer, colt).

The only thing that make suprima sound so stupid is because of there is a word Proton in front of it. There's no problem if there is a model called Toyota suprima.
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i agree they should stick with preve...suprima sounds stupid...
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Toyota has several different names for vios. Mitsubishi has use different name for sedan and hatcbacb (mirage, lancer, colt).

The only thing that make suprima sound so stupid is because of there is a word Proton in front of it.  There's no problem if there is a model called Toyota suprima.
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it still sounds stupid to me even with Toyota or Honda infront of it ... yup but you see that the mirage or colt or lance is continued even the model is updated. Do we see Proton doing that ? i only see Proton keep changing the names with new model updates, no legacy or what ever. I think the management should follow Mazda, no need headache with names. Use Proton 1, Proton 2, Proton 3, easier for their brain to digest.
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:23 PM)
it still sounds stupid to me even with Toyota or Honda infront of it ... yup but you see that the mirage or colt or lance is continued even the model is updated. Do we see Proton doing that ? i only see Proton keep changing the names with new model updates, no legacy or what ever. I think the management should follow Mazda, no need headache with names. Use Proton 1, Proton 2, Proton 3, easier for their brain to digest.
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They might use Preve again for the replacement, suprima exclusive for hatchback.

To begin with, Proton do not have legacy which have good reputation. They trying to build back the reputation from below.

The only name that managed to have legacy is saga and satria.
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They might use Preve again for the replacement, suprima exclusive for hatchback.

To begin with, Proton do not have legacy which have good reputation.  They trying to build back the reputation from below.

The only name that managed to have legacy is saga and satria.
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That's the thing with Proton, they gave the impression of being very blurry. Legacy names are a good start, back then they did mentioned that Persona/Gen2 will be legacy names for model updates. But looking at now, they bite their own words and go ahead with new namings. Their reputation for Persona i reckon did a good job, but instead they abandoned it and start to rebuild reputation again. When will their rebulding of reputation will grow ? Everytime also rebuild. rclxub.gif
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That's the thing with Proton, they gave the impression of being very blurry. Legacy names are a good start, back then they did mentioned that Persona/Gen2 will be legacy names for model updates. But looking at now, they bite their own words and go ahead with new namings. Their reputation for Persona i reckon did a good job, but instead they abandoned it and start to rebuild reputation again. When will their rebulding of reputation will grow ? Everytime also rebuild.  rclxub.gif
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I did not recall they mentioned about Persona/Gen2 will be legacy.

Persona/gen2 were built by ignoring global safety standard. It is not a good car if safety is not the priority.
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I did not recall they mentioned about Persona/Gen2 will be legacy.

Persona/gen2 were built by ignoring global safety standard. It is not a good car if safety is not the priority.
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But the namings can be retained even with a new similar segmented car is introduced. Like how Saga and Satria went on. Giving new names to each car update doesnt help that much on their reputation, or so they think it will. Nevertheless Suprima still sounds Domino Pizza to me .. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:23 PM)
it still sounds stupid to me even with Toyota or Honda infront of it ... yup but you see that the mirage or colt or lance is continued even the model is updated. Do we see Proton doing that ? i only see Proton keep changing the names with new model updates, no legacy or what ever. I think the management should follow Mazda, no need headache with names. Use Proton 1, Proton 2, Proton 3, easier for their brain to digest.
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How about Sephia, Spectra, Forte, Cerato ? isn't that change name on every generation ?
or Elantra, Avante then back to Elantra.
What legacy then ?
So korean can our local car cannot ?
1, 2, 3 ya o think that's is the maximum u can remember.
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How about Sephia, Spectra,  Forte, Cerato ? isn't that change name on every generation ?
or Elantra, Avante then back to Elantra.
What legacy then ?
So korean can our local car cannot ?
1, 2, 3 ya o think that's is the maximum u can remember.
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Yup that Korea brand also sounds stupid ... i also dun understand why many ppl go buy their cars and then compaint dashboard rattling la, handling not as good la... screw Korean cars, btw we are talking on Proton, why u butthurt ?
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But the namings can be retained even with a new similar segmented car is introduced. Like how Saga and Satria went on. Giving new names to each car update doesnt help that much on their reputation, or so they think it will. Nevertheless Suprima still sounds Domino Pizza to me ..  laugh.gif
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The old models not properly segmented as well. In fact, Proton is quite new. Like other companies, they already have 3-4 predecessor models.

Suprima is alright. Very nusantara and Proton-ish.
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Yup that Korea brand also sounds stupid ... i also dun understand why many ppl go buy their cars and then compaint dashboard rattling la, handling not as good la... screw Korean cars, btw we are talking on Proton, why u butthurt ?
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Just an example. Like how you being selective in providing examples.
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Do you think it worth that price with all those features? Or should we look at different brand for that kind of price?
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It's only a matter of perceptions smile.gif Feature wise, it's quite obvious that the Suprima is superior of those vehicle in the same segment and pricing range. Value for money always goes to national line up. Right? Quality of the finishing of the car, it's acceptable compared to other brand with the same pricing. You get something even, don't look at a hatchback which is priced at 140k. Suprima certainly can't rival up with that one. It's the perceptions of our people that matters the most smile.gif
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Just an example.  Like how you being selective in providing examples.
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Ya thats why i did not include Korean brands on legacy namings, instead one of fanboys got butthurt and hurling that if Korean brands can do that why cant Local brands ...

Korean Brands in whole are even newer than Proton down the history line, we cant basically expect Proton to go backward once again. They have been stagnant for a decade, in a goodwill i trully wished Proton to excel with at least solid model namings.

Just like when we hear of 5 series, we would know which car is that. That is what legacy namings does, if they keep on changing names then i am not sure when will they be able to establish a strong presence internationally.
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6 pages discussing name plate. Bla bla bla.. "yawn..." Anyone have information on the kerb weight? ECU different mapping? Man..I don't wan't this stock car cucuk2 me at highway. Later butt hurt. Lol..
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The name is that of an adult diaper sort of brand.

Search for Suprima and this is what you get:
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If I search for Preve, I get the Proton Preve. Focus get Ford Focus and a newspaper. Wira get Wiralution. Vios get Vios. Fiesta get Ford Fiesta. And so on. But Suprima... adult diapers. And it is pretty much the market leader in that sector, they dominate the market and are well established. A small Malaysian car maker won't push them away so easily.
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So be it, lol. Diapers are diapers, cars are cars. Two very different thing brother. How many people out of 10 actually know or remember an adult diaper's brand name? I certainly don't, not me. Rofl
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Ya thats why i did not include Korean brands on legacy namings, instead one of fanboys got butthurt and hurling that if Korean brands can do that why cant Local brands ...

Korean Brands in whole are even newer than Proton down the history line, we cant basically expect Proton to go backward once again. They have been stagnant for a decade, in a goodwill i trully wished Proton to excel with at least solid model namings.

Just like when we hear of 5 series, we would know which car is that. That is what legacy namings does, if they keep on changing names then i am not sure when will they be able to establish a strong presence internationally.
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Proton only 13 years making car from scratch. Not many models they produce, therefore introducing new models with new name is normal.
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6 pages discussing name plate. Bla bla bla.. "yawn..." Anyone have information on the kerb weight? ECU different mapping? Man..I don't wan't this stock car cucuk2 me at highway. Later butt hurt. Lol..
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Wait until the launching then you will know lo .. but seeing Preve also can cucuk around, i think this little brother will also inherit that cucuk-ing criteria. So be prepare to make way .. lol

QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 14 2013, 03:12 PM)
Proton only 13 years making car from scratch. Not many models they produce, therefore introducing new models with new name is normal.
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And i am worrying that they will continue the same formula over and over again.
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Wait until the launching then you will know lo .. but seeing Preve also can cucuk around, i think this little brother will also inherit that cucuk-ing criteria. So be prepare to make way .. lol
And i am worrying that they will continue the same formula over and over again.
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The new B segment compact hatch will obviously use new name.
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Wondering how fast is this car from 0 to 100. It should be faster then the sedan due to ligheter body i assume.
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Wondering how fast is this car from 0 to 100. It should be faster then the sedan due to ligheter body i assume.
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it still sounds stupid to me even with Toyota or Honda infront of it ... yup but you see that the mirage or colt or lance is continued even the model is updated. Do we see Proton doing that ? i only see Proton keep changing the names with new model updates, no legacy or what ever. I think the management should follow Mazda, no need headache with names. Use Proton 1, Proton 2, Proton 3, easier for their brain to digest.
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Saga? Satria Neo? Persona (though that name was used in the UK only before)?

The problem with Suprima is the name itself. Other names would be fine. Preve... not my favorite name, but acceptable. Still better than Suprima, but anything would be.

Proton did the same thing with the Gen-2/Persona. Savvy/Saga. Wira/Satria/Putra (any left?). But combining the names would have the advantage of higher sales figures. for example Toyota and Ford are leading with the Corolla and Focus in terms of sale, even though if VW were to combine Golf and Jetta they would easily dominate.
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QUOTE(skybear123 @ Aug 14 2013, 03:12 PM)
So be it, lol. Diapers are diapers, cars are cars. Two very different thing brother. How many people out of 10 actually know or remember an adult diaper's brand name? I certainly don't, not me. Rofl
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Yeah, but you Google for the car and suddenly you have to look at diapers? Great way to make a first impression.

IMHO car makers (or in fact any product makers) should Google for the name first, especially image search. If you find something that you don't want to be associated with, find a different name.
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Yeah, but you Google for the car and suddenly you have to look at diapers? Great way to make a first impression.

IMHO car makers (or in fact any product makers) should Google for the name first, especially image search. If you find something that you don't want to be associated with, find a different name.
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Proton obviously did not google enough suprima. laugh.gif
Im sensing they'll be utilizing different name for global market once they find out about the other Suprima. laugh.gif
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Proton obviously did not google enough suprima.  laugh.gif
Im sensing they'll be utilizing different name for global market once they find out about the other Suprima.  laugh.gif
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That again makes for poor branding, not so much presence. Unless they want to stop buyers from other countries from hearing horror stories of Malaysian Protons. laugh.gif

What was wrong with the idea of letting the public suggest names? Exora is a nice name. It doesn't say much, but sounds a bit exotic, interesting. When Apple came up with the iPod, that was bold. They already had established the iName, but Pod isn't really related to anything the product was finally all about. They could have called it the iMP3 or something like that, but that would have been obsolete fast. Of course later they became much more descriptive in their naming. iPhone is... well, a phone.
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That again makes for poor branding, not so much presence. Unless they want to stop buyers from other countries from hearing horror stories of Malaysian Protons. laugh.gif

What was wrong with the idea of letting the public suggest names? Exora is a nice name. It doesn't say much, but sounds a bit exotic, interesting. When Apple came up with the iPod, that was bold. They already had established the iName, but Pod isn't really related to anything the product was finally all about. They could have called it the iMP3 or something like that, but that would have been obsolete fast. Of course later they became much more descriptive in their naming. iPhone is... well, a phone.
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Ya thats why i did not include Korean brands on legacy namings, instead one of fanboys got butthurt and hurling that if Korean brands can do that why cant Local brands ...

Korean Brands in whole are even newer than Proton down the history line, we cant basically expect Proton to go backward once again. They have been stagnant for a decade, in a goodwill i trully wished Proton to excel with at least solid model namings.

Just like when we hear of 5 series, we would know which car is that. That is what legacy namings does, if they keep on changing names then i am not sure when will they be able to establish a strong presence internationally.
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Better check ur fact Hyundai start producing car in 1968 while KIA 1973, Proton first car rolled out in 1985, so who is earlier ? Mr. 123 ?

Didn't Saga was been used since 1985 which make that 28 years ? so how legacy u want them to be ? BMW start producing car since 1928, 5 series was known as BMW new class 1962-1971 only by 1972 it changed its name to 5 series.

Good 1, 2, 3, ?, 5 opps u missed out 4 ...lol. .. come on do some homework on auto industry history before bashing blind

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Better check ur fact Hyundai start producing car in 1968 while KIA 1973, Proton first car rolled out in 1985, so who is earlier ? Mr. 123 ?

Didn't Saga was been used since 1985 which make that 28 years ?

Good 1, 2, 3, ?, 5 opps u missed out 4 ...lol. .. come on do some homework on auto industry history before bashing blindly.
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Proton only qualified to be call as assembler at that time. Not until they have their own RnD unit, which Mitsubishi tak berapa suka.
Only in 2010 they start making car from scratch.
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suprime =/= Pizza , I can't even find the pizza named suprime..
I really don't agree with Proton, always comes with new names. For their model, except certain model such as Saga.

Look at Honda. how long they use same name for their Accord,Civic and City Series.

Look at Gen 2 and Persona, both of them is similar, why need to change name?
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same like Nissan separate GTR from Skyline after new management.......
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Why not just Preve Sport... or Sportback... Why Suprima S???
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Proton only qualified to be call as assembler at that time. Not until they have their own RnD unit, which Mitsubishi tak berapa suka.
Only in 2010 they start making car from scratch.
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Hyundai was also producing Ford Cotina back in 1968, only by 1975 they come out with Pony which designed & engineered by a bunch of foreigners.

Sonata been Hyundai longest production car since 1985 were actually a Mitsubishi Galant initially.

Even the Theta engine is a Mitsubishi derived tech engine.
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Better check ur fact Hyundai start producing car in 1968 while KIA 1973, Proton first car rolled out in 1985, so who is earlier ? Mr. 123 ?

Didn't Saga was been used since 1985 which make that 28 years ?  so how legacy u want them to be ? BMW start producing car since 1928, 5 series was known as BMW new class 1962-1971 only by 1972 it changed its name to 5 series.

Good 1, 2, 3, ?, 5 opps u missed out 4 ...lol. .. come on do some homework on auto industry history before bashing blind
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well if you like Proton coming up new names for each car models then so be it. I prefer legacy names, Saga and Satria is running on the legacy name and i dont see why other models can do that. Yup, Mr Homework guy, then kindly help me to findout why is the name Suprimo then ? Sounds ubber class ? I find Persona sounds better.
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same case as GEN-2 / PERSONA
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Everything seems the same, except new gear knob design, and different color trims in steering and dashboard.

Bigger HU screen, seems to be the same as Thai/Indo unit.

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Everything seems the same, except new gear knob design, and different color trims in steering and dashboard.

Bigger HU screen, seems to be the same as Thai/Indo unit.
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I thought someone mentioned 7" HU unit with android capability?

Steering no paddle shift? Maybe this is the midrange unit as dash looks plain to me. Also notice there are no more chrome trims at the buttons next to the LCD screen.

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I thought someone mentioned 7" HU unit with android capability?

Steering no paddle shift? Maybe this is the midrange unit as dash looks plain to me. Also notice there are no more chrome trims at the buttons next to the LCD screen.
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Maybe this is not the high spec model. Or maybe the paddle shift is not visible from this angle.
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paddle shifter is there.. but with different color...hehehe
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Suprima ... i notice this is the first proton model which has 2 special emblems at the rear.. .one is TURBO.. another is Lotus... wow.. no wonder it calls Suprima becoz of that...
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Everything seems the same, except new gear knob design, and different color trims in steering and dashboard.

Bigger HU screen, seems to be the same as Thai/Indo unit.
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This took them more than 1 year to launch it with the new name for it hehe... but hopes the quality go top notch.. shut the bashers' mouth lolx... and hope that after launching those showroom/test drive units all in good condition, no more dashboard button pop in... tired rod patah la... bad weld joints. etc etc

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The interior still looks dull to me. I was hoping that Proton read all the negative bashes on Preve the last time and improve on this one, but sigh ... same old same old ... let's just hope the engine is a bit better ... should have come out with the Petronas engine already duhhhh ... we need 2.0 NA + manual!!! smile.gif
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im not proton fan....

to be honest the exterior and interior are quite nice compare to almera,pug sedan, mazda 3.

price wise with turbo and leather seat at 70k++ well worth it compare to vios at 80k++ with the same lame 1.5 old engine.

with push start button, hill start assist and alot of safety features.

i will highly consider this....



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u go see nissan interior and come back comment....

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The interior still looks dull to me. I was hoping that Proton read all the negative bashes on Preve the last time and improve on this one, but sigh ... same old same old ... let's just hope the engine is a bit better ... should have come out with the Petronas engine already duhhhh ... we need 2.0 NA + manual!!! smile.gif
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Everything seems the same, except new gear knob design, and different color trims in steering and dashboard.

Bigger HU screen, seems to be the same as Thai/Indo unit.
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the interior look better with the silver trim, preve faux wood look cheap and cheesy, the shine doesn't doesn't help either.

personally i feel that the iafm variant copperish brown look better than premium variant shiny wood

and there is actually a paddle shifter there, its now piano black colour
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Suprime = pizza

Suprima = Preve hatch, too wired
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I don't understand why most of u bash suprima's interior. For it's price, it does look ok to me.
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I don't understand why most of u bash suprima's interior. For it's price, it does look ok to me.
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in preve/suprima case, bland + cheap plastic make the interior yucky
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how much is this car?
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Aug 14 2013, 09:35 PM)
the interior look better with the silver trim, preve faux wood look cheap and cheesy, the shine doesn't doesn't help either.

personally i feel that the iafm variant copperish brown look better than premium variant shiny wood

and there is actually a paddle shifter there, its now piano black colour
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But fake plastic also looks bad. They should just use black but make it possible to change. Like custom interiors. So aftermarket you can buy real wood ones from a carpenter, or real brushed steel, real leather, ... Or fake ones, depending on budget. Or perhaps different colors. Or even custom printed ones.
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the interior look better with the silver trim, preve faux wood look cheap and cheesy, the shine doesn't doesn't help either.

personally i feel that the iafm variant copperish brown look better than premium variant shiny wood

and there is actually a paddle shifter there, its now piano black colour
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QUOTE(petrofsky77 @ Aug 14 2013, 09:00 PM)
The interior still looks dull to me. I was hoping that Proton read all the negative bashes on Preve the last time and improve on this one, but sigh ... same old same old ... let's just hope the engine is a bit better ... should have come out with the Petronas engine already duhhhh ... we need 2.0 NA + manual!!! smile.gif
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Petronas engine is not ready for global emission requirement. Proton is repositioning their engine ever since they acquired petronas engine. Probably no 2.0 variant since it is overlapped with campro CFE 1.6 that deliver equivalent performance.

The focusing the turbocharged 1.8 and 2.2 engine.

They actually listen to the feedback, else how come they change the name from Preve to Suprima. All the bashers keep on bashing the name Preve. Later change to suprima also kena bashed kiri kanan.
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in my opinion, it shouldn't be named as proton Suprima S. Preve Hatchback would be better because the interior at a first glance is 100% same as the Preve itself.
The analogy itself is also same as Proton Satria and Wira. Satria's interior is 100% same as Wira. Later than that, Proton Arena's interior design is as same as Wira, too.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 14 2013, 06:04 PM)
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Everything seems the same, except new gear knob design, and different color trims in steering and dashboard.

Bigger HU screen, seems to be the same as Thai/Indo unit.
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well if you like Proton coming up new names for each car models then so be it. I prefer legacy names, Saga and Satria is running on the legacy name and i dont see why other models can do that. Yup, Mr Homework guy, then kindly help me to findout why is the name Suprimo then ? Sounds ubber class ? I find Persona sounds better.
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Quite simple some model are sucess while some are not, usually car manufacturer will retain the name of those sucess model or what u call legacy, sometime they intend to sell 2 generation car at a same time, they would change one of the name.
Anyway what is in the name it is the car itself that we r concentrating, what bothered by the color of the dog/cat collar instead of the color of the dog/cat ?
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Sorry folks.. the exterior (especially rear) already looks dated even before launch.

Whoever designed this.. really should do better. Probably the whole design team should consider finding another job.
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Sorry folks.. the exterior (especially rear) already looks dated even before launch.

Whoever designed this.. really should do better. Probably the whole design team should consider finding another job.
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Proton marketing is dumb...always change name for what??? Should just call it Preve Hatchback or Preve Sports.

Suprima S="Supreme Stupidity" in English.....banggang marketing department....should hire me to do the marketing.
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Define dated.  BMW, Mercedes, Honda still use this kind of design.
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Those established makers have subtle styling but effective, timeless design and will take years to age.
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QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Aug 14 2013, 09:05 PM)
im not proton fan....

to be honest the exterior and interior are quite nice compare to almera,pug sedan, mazda 3.

price wise with turbo and leather seat at 70k++ well worth it compare to vios at 80k++ with the same lame 1.5 old engine.

with push start button, hill start assist and alot of safety features.

i will highly consider this....
@kevintth

u go see nissan interior and come back comment....
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not sure which pug sedan but u sure u what u saw is mazda 3 interior? shakehead.gif preve better? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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Dated = looks old and unattractive, much like Hyundais in the yesteryears.

Those established makers have subtle styling but effective, timeless design and will take years to age.
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It looks modern and timeless to me. European design.
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It looks modern and timeless to me.  European design.
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it should look in the first place. Preve sedan rear is just fugly.

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proton dah habis nama melayu ke sampai pakai nama2 luar??

persona = personality
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really, the rear has a hint of mazda 323 hatchback.
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proton dah habis nama melayu ke sampai pakai nama2 luar??

persona = personality
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hmm.gif

I'm thinking they chose the name Suprima as a double entendre.

Like you said Preve = predict which derive from Spanish.

Suprima = supreme, make sense, but it means "remove" in Spanish.

I was wondering if that serves as a middle finger to Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin & they can't abruptly cancel the development halfway for the hatchback version like they cancelled all Lotus future projects.

Maybe I'm thinking too much.

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I very much prefer the Preve rear. It looks modern. Coupe like almost. The Preve Sportback rear doesn't match the rest of the design. It is too rounded.
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gud car from proton except for the suprima s name...
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QUOTE(am_i_rulez @ Aug 15 2013, 10:24 AM)
proton dah habis nama melayu ke sampai pakai nama2 luar??

persona = personality
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Like you said Preve = predict which derive from Spanish.
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http://paultan.org/2012/04/04/proton-preve...for-the-p3-21a/

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I thought they have dropped the Lotus R&H badge (renamed to Proton R&H). Why are they reverting back to the Lotus brand?
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 15 2013, 11:01 AM)
Prevé means "To prove" (as in, to prove that Proton can). This is Proton's definition for this name.
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I thought they have dropped the Lotus R&H badge (renamed to Proton R&H). Why are they reverting back to the Lotus brand?
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I'm thinking they chose the name Suprima as a double entendre.

Like you said Preve = predict which derive from Spanish.

Suprima = supreme, make sense, but it means "remove" in Spanish.

I was wondering if that serves as a middle finger to Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin & they can't abruptly cancel the development halfway for the hatchback version like they cancelled all Lotus future projects.

Maybe I'm thinking too much.
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yeah, i check also suprima means delete in spanish... but who will gives the car name remove/delete??

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yeah, i check also suprima means delete in spanish... but who will gives the car name remove/delete??
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Looks better than Preve IMO. But super stupid name doh.gif

Bigger ICE screen is much appreciated. Exterior still sucks but at least it's an improvement over Preve.

The rear seems like they were lazy to get alignments and cabling done properly so they decided not to extend the tail lights to the boot lid.

I wonder how much...
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QUOTE(DeniseLau @ Aug 15 2013, 01:27 PM)
Looks better than Preve IMO. But super stupid name  doh.gif

Bigger ICE screen is much appreciated. Exterior still sucks but at least it's an improvement over Preve.

The rear seems like they were lazy to get alignments and cabling done properly so they decided not to extend the tail lights to the boot lid.

I wonder how much...
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kerb weight - 1395kg



thats heavier than preve CFE of 1340kg..the FC & performance wont be better than CFE shakehead.gif

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thats heavier than preve CFE of 1340kg..the FC & performance wont be better than CFE shakehead.gif
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It is suppose to be lighter than sedan... how come so heavy 1...
already cut off the tail lolx..

anyway, wait for this Saturday, the launching event to see the real car... smile.gif
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 02:41 PM)
It is suppose to be lighter than sedan... how come so heavy 1...
already cut off the tail lolx..

anyway, wait for this Saturday, the launching event to see the real car...  smile.gif
http://paultan.org/2013/08/15/proton-supri...live-streaming/
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thats why i'm curious..shorter than preve but heavier..maybe coz of bigger rims??..but thats more than 50kilos of extra weight..doesnt make sense hmm.gif
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It is suppose to be lighter than sedan... how come so heavy 1...
already cut off the tail lolx..

anyway, wait for this Saturday, the launching event to see the real car...  smile.gif
http://paultan.org/2013/08/15/proton-supri...live-streaming/
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additional equipment 6 airbags,etc.

I've noticed that they've abandoned all pretenses that the CFE engine was under DSZ, ie downsized turbocharging. Now it's just a turbo badge and the real fuel consumption is printed in the brochure (good job for this, too many manufacturers overoptimistic when it comes to fc on brochures) but quoting 0-100 time on the marketing garb? Not smart, unless it's really good. 9.9 secs is nothing to shout about.
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It is suppose to be lighter than sedan... how come so heavy 1...
already cut off the tail lolx..

anyway, wait for this Saturday, the launching event to see the real car...  smile.gif
http://paultan.org/2013/08/15/proton-supri...live-streaming/
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Even the wira aeroback is heavier than the wira sedan form so it make sense on the increasing weight.
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0-100km/h at 9.9s just a little bit more. 9s is something to shout about. I was first amaze they have come out with something capable of doing under 10s. Yeah it can be argue its below 10s...but hey its 9.9s.
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additional equipment 6 airbags,etc.

I've noticed that they've abandoned all pretenses that the CFE engine was under DSZ, ie downsized turbocharging. Now it's just a turbo badge and the real fuel consumption is printed in the brochure (good job for this, too many manufacturers overoptimistic when it comes to fc on brochures) but quoting 0-100 time on the marketing garb? Not smart, unless it's really good. 9.9 secs is nothing to shout about.
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QUOTE(hadykucing @ Aug 15 2013, 02:50 PM)
maybe because for rims? its 17"
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err… it is not adding 6 more airbags… it just add 2 more from 4 airbags… and same goes to rim… is from 16" rim to 17' omg… like that 50KG more heavier than sedan.. hmm.gif
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If proton wanted make a good number of sales they should offer more variant like how vios did. 80k for this is abit too confident, people will go for ckd jazz or kosong spec vios instead of this.
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 03:00 PM)
err… it is not adding 6 more airbags… it just add 2 more from 4 airbags… and same goes to rim… is from 16" rim  to 17' omg… like that 50KG more heavier than sedan..  hmm.gif
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tell the proton bashers that they welded the entire car properly this time, thats why its heavier tongue.gif
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QUOTE(psycho1 @ Aug 15 2013, 03:08 PM)
If proton wanted make a good number of sales they should offer more variant like how vios did. 80k for this is abit too confident, people will go for ckd jazz or kosong spec vios instead of this.
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I read somewhere the target sales for this model is only 200 per month.
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Wonder if the Android system in this car can be rooted tongue.gif
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cheaper price should encourage sales.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Aug 15 2013, 03:15 PM)
Wonder if the Android system in this car can be rooted tongue.gif
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i wonder can it be controlled with android device... hmm.gif
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so damn expensive for such car
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The segment is within the likes of Civic, Altis, Focus etc. It's cheaper. But as always, it's Proton. Most people don't care about segments. All they see is price as a way to compare cars be it to other segments like Rio, Fiesta etc.


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i wonder can it be controlled with android device...  hmm.gif
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If can root, the possibilities are endless brows.gif
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If can root, the possibilities are endless brows.gif
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then we can control the car hahahaha.... like playing remote control car? lolx....
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then we can control the car hahahaha.... like playing remote control car? lolx....
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80k siuttt for high spec
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Still no Manual Turbo XD
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 15 2013, 04:20 PM)
Still no Manual Turbo XD
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based on the spec, i like it
auto headlamp, auto wiper sensor, reverse camera, front sensor
all wheel disc brake + multilink suspension
ABS + EBD + BA + HA + ESC + TC

not bad, not bad at all
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I'm thinking of 75k executive and 78k for Premium is the best price. 80k is too much. Even the spec is good, i dont think malaysian is ready for a 80k proton. They need to prove their car is 80k worthy first before charging people 80k.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 15 2013, 04:59 PM)
I'm thinking of 75k executive and 78k for Premium is the best price. 80k is too much.  Even the spec is good, i dont think malaysian is ready for a 80k proton. They need to prove their car is 80k worthy first before charging people 80k.
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Who are the current competitor for Preve currently at a price of 80k?

a.) City (low spec)
b.) Vios (low spec)
c.) Almera (low spec)
d.) Jazz (not even the same class, so drop it)
e.) Myvi Lagi Best (lol...)

anymore?

how in the earth I can forgot "Forte"..lol..sorry whistling.gif

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Wrong pricing strategy, later might end up like inspira giving huge discount to clear stock. Better if Proton can provide more variant and let customer to choose base on their needs and budget.
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QUOTE(psycho1 @ Aug 15 2013, 05:08 PM)
Wrong pricing strategy, later might end up like inspira giving huge discount to clear stock. Better if Proton can provide more variant and let customer to choose base on their needs and budget.
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Preve does its job. Why want so many variant?
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QUOTE(siegwarhiet @ Aug 15 2013, 05:10 PM)
Preve does its job. Why want so many variant?
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To increase sales? ==
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QUOTE(siegwarhiet @ Aug 15 2013, 05:07 PM)
Who are the current competitor for Preve currently at a price of 80k?

a.) City (low spec)
b.) Vios (low spec)
c.) Almera (low spec)
d.) Jazz (not even the same class, so drop it)
e.) Myvi Lagi Best (lol...)

anymore?

how in the earth I can forgot "Forte"..lol..sorry whistling.gif
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Maybe because it's no longer in production? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 15 2013, 04:54 PM)
based on the spec, i like it
auto headlamp, auto wiper sensor, reverse camera, front sensor
all wheel disc brake + multilink suspension
ABS + EBD + BA + HA + ESC + TC

not bad, not bad at all
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QUOTE(siegwarhiet @ Aug 15 2013, 05:07 PM)
Who are the current competitor for Preve currently at a price of 80k?

a.) City (low spec)
b.) Vios (low spec)
c.) Almera (low spec)
d.) Jazz (not even the same class, so drop it)
e.) Myvi Lagi Best (lol...)

anymore?

how in the earth I can forgot "Forte"..lol..sorry whistling.gif
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thats what its tag say after all... Fully loaded with built in value... haha... tapao all lor... no need compete apa apa pun ada.. is like 200k car with that specs laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 05:17 PM)
thats what its tag say after all... Fully loaded with built in value... haha... tapao all lor... no need compete apa apa pun ada.. is like 200k car with that specs laugh.gif
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not to mention smart entry and push start button at that price(although they use an older version of it, not the latest version like those in camry, teana...etc etc)
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QUOTE(siegwarhiet @ Aug 15 2013, 05:07 PM)
Who are the current competitor for Preve currently at a price of 80k?

a.) City (low spec)
b.) Vios (low spec)
c.) Almera (low spec)
d.) Jazz (not even the same class, so drop it)
e.) Myvi Lagi Best (lol...)

anymore?

how in the earth I can forgot "Forte"..lol..sorry whistling.gif
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Why never includes Korean car ??

KIA Rio 1.4
Naza Forte EX


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