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Proton Suprima S
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Aug 7 2013, 05:37 AM, updated 12y ago
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Official LYN club and owners please proceed here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2963214
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Aug 7 2013, 06:20 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 7 2013, 06:04 AM) QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 7 2013, 06:05 AM) I don't like the name for few reasons: The current DRB management doesnt like the name Preve because of it is hard to pronounce correctly. 1. Preve already proven brand. Just put Preve HB and people will understand. It is a Preve with a HB body. Unless the Preve name is detrimental, I don't see the need to make a new brand name and the campaign to make the brand recognised again. 2. If there is a Suprima S, is there a Suprima? People will think about this. S = Sport? So there is a Suprima C (comfort), Suprima N (Neutral) Heard that they will kill all previous Proton legacy for future models. All with new name. If DSZ is still managing Proton, the Preve name will remain. |
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Aug 7 2013, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Aug 7 2013, 08:17 AM) Cerato is ok coz it's a new car although Cerato nameplate isn't new. The new Cerato got both sedan & hatchback which both maintain the Cerato nameplate. I'm not surprise because i already know from beginning they will not retain the Preve name. It would take a while for people to get used to the Suprima name while they calling it Preve hatchback. Same goes with Gen2 & Persona when most people at the time still calling it Gen2 sedan before comfortably calling its actual name Persona as we do today. The new name would stick eventually. The name is alright, but of course to use Preve make more sense. But as I said, it is DRB decision. A lot of Proton engineer who original work for P3-22A/P3-21A already left the company. |
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Aug 7 2013, 11:46 AM
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Aug 7 2013, 11:47 AM
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Aug 8 2013, 10:44 AM
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Aug 14 2013, 12:03 PM
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Aug 14 2013, 01:59 PM
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Aug 14 2013, 02:09 PM
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Aug 14 2013, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:10 PM) Toyota has several different names for vios. Mitsubishi has use different name for sedan and hatcbacb (mirage, lancer, colt).The only thing that make suprima sound so stupid is because of there is a word Proton in front of it. There's no problem if there is a model called Toyota suprima. |
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Aug 14 2013, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:23 PM) it still sounds stupid to me even with Toyota or Honda infront of it ... yup but you see that the mirage or colt or lance is continued even the model is updated. Do we see Proton doing that ? i only see Proton keep changing the names with new model updates, no legacy or what ever. I think the management should follow Mazda, no need headache with names. Use Proton 1, Proton 2, Proton 3, easier for their brain to digest. They might use Preve again for the replacement, suprima exclusive for hatchback.To begin with, Proton do not have legacy which have good reputation. They trying to build back the reputation from below. The only name that managed to have legacy is saga and satria. |
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Aug 14 2013, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:39 PM) That's the thing with Proton, they gave the impression of being very blurry. Legacy names are a good start, back then they did mentioned that Persona/Gen2 will be legacy names for model updates. But looking at now, they bite their own words and go ahead with new namings. Their reputation for Persona i reckon did a good job, but instead they abandoned it and start to rebuild reputation again. When will their rebulding of reputation will grow ? Everytime also rebuild. I did not recall they mentioned about Persona/Gen2 will be legacy.Persona/gen2 were built by ignoring global safety standard. It is not a good car if safety is not the priority. |
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Aug 14 2013, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:47 PM) But the namings can be retained even with a new similar segmented car is introduced. Like how Saga and Satria went on. Giving new names to each car update doesnt help that much on their reputation, or so they think it will. Nevertheless Suprima still sounds Domino Pizza to me .. The old models not properly segmented as well. In fact, Proton is quite new. Like other companies, they already have 3-4 predecessor models. Suprima is alright. Very nusantara and Proton-ish. |
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Aug 14 2013, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 02:56 PM) Yup that Korea brand also sounds stupid ... i also dun understand why many ppl go buy their cars and then compaint dashboard rattling la, handling not as good la... screw Korean cars, btw we are talking on Proton, why u butthurt ? Just an example. Like how you being selective in providing examples. |
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Aug 14 2013, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 03:09 PM) Ya thats why i did not include Korean brands on legacy namings, instead one of fanboys got butthurt and hurling that if Korean brands can do that why cant Local brands ... Proton only 13 years making car from scratch. Not many models they produce, therefore introducing new models with new name is normal.Korean Brands in whole are even newer than Proton down the history line, we cant basically expect Proton to go backward once again. They have been stagnant for a decade, in a goodwill i trully wished Proton to excel with at least solid model namings. Just like when we hear of 5 series, we would know which car is that. That is what legacy namings does, if they keep on changing names then i am not sure when will they be able to establish a strong presence internationally. |
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Aug 14 2013, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Aug 14 2013, 03:20 PM) Wait until the launching then you will know lo .. but seeing Preve also can cucuk around, i think this little brother will also inherit that cucuk-ing criteria. So be prepare to make way .. lol The new B segment compact hatch will obviously use new name.And i am worrying that they will continue the same formula over and over again. |
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Aug 14 2013, 03:43 PM
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Aug 14 2013, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 14 2013, 04:10 PM) Yeah, but you Google for the car and suddenly you have to look at diapers? Great way to make a first impression. Proton obviously did not google enough suprima. IMHO car makers (or in fact any product makers) should Google for the name first, especially image search. If you find something that you don't want to be associated with, find a different name. Im sensing they'll be utilizing different name for global market once they find out about the other Suprima. |
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Aug 14 2013, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 14 2013, 04:18 PM) That again makes for poor branding, not so much presence. Unless they want to stop buyers from other countries from hearing horror stories of Malaysian Protons. They probably settle with Preve S or similar for AU/UK market. What was wrong with the idea of letting the public suggest names? Exora is a nice name. It doesn't say much, but sounds a bit exotic, interesting. When Apple came up with the iPod, that was bold. They already had established the iName, but Pod isn't really related to anything the product was finally all about. They could have called it the iMP3 or something like that, but that would have been obsolete fast. Of course later they became much more descriptive in their naming. iPhone is... well, a phone. |
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Aug 14 2013, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 14 2013, 04:42 PM) Better check ur fact Hyundai start producing car in 1968 while KIA 1973, Proton first car rolled out in 1985, so who is earlier ? Mr. 123 ? Proton only qualified to be call as assembler at that time. Not until they have their own RnD unit, which Mitsubishi tak berapa suka. Didn't Saga was been used since 1985 which make that 28 years ? Good 1, 2, 3, ?, 5 opps u missed out 4 ...lol. .. come on do some homework on auto industry history before bashing blindly. Only in 2010 they start making car from scratch. |
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