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MR_alien
post Aug 15 2013, 04:54 PM

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based on the spec, i like it
auto headlamp, auto wiper sensor, reverse camera, front sensor
all wheel disc brake + multilink suspension
ABS + EBD + BA + HA + ESC + TC

not bad, not bad at all
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post Aug 15 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 05:17 PM)
thats what its tag say after all... Fully loaded with built in value... haha... tapao all lor... no need compete apa apa pun ada.. is like 200k car with that specs laugh.gif
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not to mention smart entry and push start button at that price(although they use an older version of it, not the latest version like those in camry, teana...etc etc)
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post Aug 15 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 05:58 PM)
haha so true... ask to add reverse camera, they did, ask them to put bigger rim, they did... ask them to add 2 more airbags.. they did too.. add this and that.. still below RM80k.  rclxms.gif

but... ask them improve quality and service.. dunno got or not  hmm.gif
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post Aug 15 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 15 2013, 06:03 PM)
Thanks for that.

Now, if compare with preve specs:
http://protonpreve.com/pricing.php

Sedan acceleration is faster, 9.1 vs 9.6 secs
Sedan weighs less
Sedan 4 airbag vs 6 airbag.

Got DRL some more. I always thought hatchbacks weighed less than sedan.
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they do but they have extra thing in this one as compared to preve
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post Aug 15 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 05:27 PM)
plus… it got 5 star ancap rating in safety haha…
Just curious… are they over confident or what.. They do print the 5 star ancap rating on the brochure without testing it first in Australia??? Or no need test coz is the same as Preve but shorter tail lolx… Bfore this Preve sedan they don’t dare to do so…
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because preve already has that rating
this HB have extra safety feature compared to preve itself
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post Aug 15 2013, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 15 2013, 06:19 PM)
A lot of people will go for the Premium version.

Premium has:
Reverse camera
Front+ rear parking sensor. (Now P drivers can park cars with ease, rather than ramming vehicle into other people)
DRL
Hill hold assist
Auto climate control
Auto headlamps
2 extra tweeters
Leather seats
Leather door trim
Leather steering wheel
17" wheels.
Auto fold mirrors
Auto cruise
Auto front wiper

You get a lot for RM 3k difference Executive vs Premium on HB model.

If you book a preve now, better cancel order and buy the HB Premium unless you need the massive boot. CFE RM73k, this one RM80k, so better weigh the RM7k difference. Engine output seems the same, thought not sure about the ECU mapping though. Not mention there.

Also you get android Navi system and looks like 7" panel If can put waze, google maps there, no need to put ugly suction cup on dash/window and hook phone there. I'm guessing this is the Clarion Android unit. If true, then Proton quite advance using Android as base OS. Most car makers have their own OS for ICE with limited ios support.
What does this integrated DSP thingy do?

Do you need Hill Hold assist for Auto car? I thought once you put into P< car is lock, put into D, car moves forward. On a hill, if put in N, then I think car will go backwards.
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this is why i always recommend ppl to take the highest line
its the most value for money
getting so much more for less
rather than taking the lower line thn later go to those workshop mod here and there with aftermarket stuff...ugly
not sure abt the integrated DSP though, might need to ask the SA

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post Aug 15 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Aug 15 2013, 06:34 PM)
Haha they Toyota dun even bother thier fans...
Only proton does...

Last time Preve released many ppl not satisfied
Rim small... why no drl... instead led only... touchscreen also very small... ugly fake wood dashboard. .. ugly chrome designed on steering wheel... why Australia got 6 airbags... here only 4 cheat us... and bla bla bla...

After listen to users suggestions. .. they changed whatever is possible in this SUPRIMA S....

Look at the new vios hahaha... if Suprima S was the new Vios... all will praise it like a god made car for 97k only...

Sigh human never get 100% satisfaction. . Same goes to car nothing is perfect
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post Aug 15 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 15 2013, 08:14 PM)
I know what it does. Usually comes in manual transmission because longer in neutral gear. In Auto, not sure why it is there, since you are not in N that long.

Thinking about it, at RM80k, it is actually reasonable value, tough people discussing the same topic in the kopitiam all say overprice laugh.gif

Proton now following the Kia/Hyundai model of the early 2000s. Give tons of stuff with extended warranty. Kia/Hyundai have moved on to directly fighting car makes for same market share. 5 years warranty is good enough for me. If problems cannot be fixed within first 3 years, then there is an inherent design flaw, so give 20 years also cannot fix.

The only thing left is to wait for the reviews. Especially the driving characteristics. Engine noise, sluggishness, pickup voiced by those with the CFE variant. If all cured, then I don't see any logic reason why would you buy the standard CFE over the HB model (unless you really need the boot space and hate the HB rear looks). Wait for the sedan goes through it's midlife facelift, then the sedan can be seen on par with the HB. What you see in the HB Premium, will cross over to the Sedan + whatever faults they find on the HB during its midlife facelift. Preve facelift 2014?
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those are /k/
they always demand more/unsatisfied
but eventually will buy 1 tongue.gif
and like u say, if everything is cured
u would see those feature coming out on the preve facelift as well....both will be on par

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post Aug 15 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 15 2013, 08:34 PM)
It is impossible to get cheaper mods that can make Executive>Premium under 3k.

Say you can trade in rims, stock rims, RM500 extra. Or maybe you can get free rims from inspira who decided to change it. Same rims.
Who is going to trade leather for fabric seats?
Can't put aftermarket Hill hold assist IIANM
Side airbags. Can't install aftermarket also.

The rest can be added for under RM3k.
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yes...but some ppl prolly just want a cheaper car
thn after that have some money thn have intention to mod
so they go out and install aftermarket ones
not only it ruins the car, they end up paying more than just directly buying the highest spec as well
thats why i always recommend to just directly get the highest line
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post Aug 16 2013, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(SMED @ Aug 15 2013, 09:32 PM)
80k price is w/o insurance right?
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post Aug 17 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 17 2013, 11:23 AM)
ermm...to expensive for me...rather go for jazz petrol 75k only...
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why not...they're all CKD afterall
for CKD, if u ask me..it is abit expensive but considering the spec you're gonna get
i dn't think its expensive already
i would recommend u to get any car, except toyota car especially vios...that is the perfect example of OVERPRICED
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post Aug 17 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(sctan1986 @ Aug 17 2013, 03:45 PM)
Proton is Potong , a national car company subsidized by Government and monopoly ONLY in Malaysia market and at the end potong face loss in revenue every year ,thats why call Potong .
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post Aug 17 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(keanutan @ Aug 17 2013, 05:25 PM)
Good point .. The spec with that price it cheap . Happen to me today show to old uncle new suprima s he look At the price than say expensive I say spec is good tsc + 6 airbag . He say better buy Vios with that price no need airbag cause old car also no airbag less problem . I told him old times no need lock house now why u lock ur house.
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uncle i understand
but i'm sad our youngster also dn't know how to compare
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 17 2013, 09:08 PM)
Ford Fiesta Sedan. CBU from Thai, taxed even more than the Vios. The Fiesta is safer, has more modern drivetrain technology, more gadgets, better handling. The only downside is a smaller rear seat space. RM84k.

So don't come and tell me VIOS is expensive because of the tax. It is an overpriced piece of sh!t, period.

If I wanna buy a CKD jap car, I'd take a Honda City or a CKD Honda Jazz anyday over that dugong crap.
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Aug 17 2013, 08:53 PM)
http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...laysia---part-1

Imported cars are generally priced higher because of our national cars. Read it.
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no connection with national car
national car also have to pay tax same as foreign car
other foreign car also subject to the same tax but why they can offer us so much more than what toyota offered us right now

for the tax, in short we are all paying for the price of 2 car for 1 car...including proton and perodua

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post Aug 17 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(SithBuster @ Aug 17 2013, 09:46 PM)
Wow, you're a designer? Should help design Proton's car wey, they really know nuts about design  rclxms.gif
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from what i know
most part of proton's car nowadays are NOT design by proton themselves
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(lepet @ Aug 17 2013, 09:58 PM)
walauweyy.. 12 month bonus... selling car 50% less than produa... and get 12 month bonus???
must be profit margin per car very high...
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yes, very
because so much hardcore fans
2 airbags, even if they set the price at 100k, still will sell well
thats why UMW SA have to thanks those "hardcore fans/blind fans" for their money
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(lepet @ Aug 17 2013, 10:03 PM)
i guess profit margin per car for toyota is more than RM20k
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not sure, need to see the AP
but should around 10-20k for that kind of spec
in malaysia, vios is kind of equivalent to a saga...so go figure
thats why i always say UMW is ripping us off
not only charge us expensive, before it even reach here, they kinda will remove some of the feature as well
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 17 2013, 10:06 PM)
The new Vios already open for booking since last month  brows.gif
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if not wrong already received 1k++ booking brows.gif
another good bonus year
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(SithBuster @ Aug 17 2013, 10:16 PM)
Oh, thanks for the info. Didn't know that  shocking.gif
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thats why u dn't see proton nowadays look like persona, gen2 and satria neo
looks more modern already

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