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post Aug 8 2013, 12:10 AM

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little birdie told me the price wont be more than 80k
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post Aug 8 2013, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 8 2013, 12:11 AM)
same price with current preve?
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current preve premium is 77k if imnm, i guess there would be a price reduction perhaps for the sedan.

with 3k difference, i dont think you can get a different body style, more airbag, more gizmo and gadget and mostly different trim.

the leak picture hint silver trim, most like faux aluminium perhaps
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post Aug 8 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 8 2013, 11:40 AM)
Expect next Jetta using A6 / MQB platform as well.

The topic here is about name different between sedan & hatchback,  I have shown P1 is not the only one even Big Car mfg do the same

These kiddo simply wanna find fault.
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naming the car properly is the first good marketing step, in my opinion proton kinda fail in naming their car, suprima for a c-segment? that just seems inappropriate.

for a d or e-segment maybe its ok. naming a c-segment as suprima that just seems wrong
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post Aug 8 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Aug 8 2013, 11:01 PM)
Next is Ultima
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Nissan already trademarked it whistling.gif
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post Aug 9 2013, 09:47 AM

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so... today is after raya? when proton going to launch this suprima s?
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post Aug 14 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 14 2013, 06:04 PM)
user posted image

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Everything seems the same, except new gear knob design, and different color trims in steering and dashboard.

Bigger HU screen, seems to be the same as Thai/Indo unit.
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the interior look better with the silver trim, preve faux wood look cheap and cheesy, the shine doesn't doesn't help either.

personally i feel that the iafm variant copperish brown look better than premium variant shiny wood

and there is actually a paddle shifter there, its now piano black colour
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post Aug 14 2013, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(smudger14 @ Aug 14 2013, 09:50 PM)
I don't understand why most of u bash suprima's interior. For it's price, it does look ok to me.
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the interior is as bland as VW, materials quality would make bland design tasteful just like VW

in preve/suprima case, bland + cheap plastic make the interior yucky
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post Aug 17 2013, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(daus89 @ Aug 17 2013, 02:30 AM)
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nice?
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I thought its going to look like a "C"
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post Aug 17 2013, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 17 2013, 07:32 PM)
LOL the epic door test again.  doh.gif

NCAP should include door close test to determine the car is solid or not.  laugh.gif
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Its all about first impression, even professional reviewers like caradvice still sometimes comment about the door closing sound.

It doesn't matter if the interior is covered with Europeans royal first born baby butt hide if it is brittle like a tuile.

All the sensation like door closing sound, good feeling material, tight panel gap and comfortable cushioning all contribute to perceive quality even before turning on the engine
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(SithBuster @ Aug 17 2013, 08:58 PM)

You feel me  thumbup.gif  its the little things that counts

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As a designer we always try achieve a perfect design but its only achievable by being minimalist. But for a mass market car manufacturer, being minimalist would make a niche product like Mazda MX-5 or Lotus cars
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(SithBuster @ Aug 17 2013, 09:46 PM)
Wow, you're a designer? Should help design Proton's car wey, they really know nuts about design  rclxms.gif
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I don't know nuts about designing cars laugh.gif I do believe Azlan O. Is a good designer, he is only being hold back by proton's part manufacturer capability.

My only criticism about Azlan O. Is his obsession with rising belt line, it screw the whole car porpotion. If preve has lower boot it will look smarter. The rising belt line also cause preve has poor rear visibility like many preve user complaint. The rear windscreen look like a peep hole. Proton not providing rear view camera are not helping either

Anyway from safety POV, bigger metal area means manufacturer can put more reinforcements for side impact protection
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:12 PM

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Why you guys protecting tax? Proton fags are all kayap-rayap gaji 20k like to pay a lot of tax for a car.

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post Aug 17 2013, 10:41 PM

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I don't understand this whole crony talk

Isn't proton deserve to have its preferred manufacturer?

Like fishmonger sell his fish first to his preferred customer before selling it to other customers
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 17 2013, 10:48 PM)
Jolokia sudah mari.  Ini toyoi versi proton supporter. Hahaha
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Ooohh toyoi... How much I want to summon him here into fnf and put those 2 together in a cage...

No offence jolokia, toyoi is definitely beneath me
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:54 PM

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post Aug 17 2013, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 17 2013, 10:54 PM)
This one, unavoidable. All new cars will be higher. No more Honda Prelude low type car. Part of it is to due with pedestrian safety. The front of the car height must be about waist area, so that when hit pedestrian, bones don't break. Part of it is also for accessibility. Getting out of a prelude is harder for a 70 year old person than say a myvi.

By making a car higher also you get more car volume. In fact even the new Swift is higher than old Swift. Same with mini. Looks almost same, but higher due to safety requirement. Can make the car lower, at a cost of NCAP stars.

I am afraid that as we go further in the future, we are going to drive cars that will have seating more like dining table chairs, rather than F1 style seating.
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I think you got mistaken with ride height and belt line laugh.gif

Belt line is the window line I presumed? Understand? From the side profile you can see the window rises to the boot. The chunky bonnet is unavoidable though for safety reason as your explain. In design talk the high bonnet forces the belt line/window line to increase in height and the boot follows along. This is basically like a by law book in designing cars

And this also causes car nowadays have tapered greenhouse unlike older car that has narrow bonnet yet generous amount of glass

Anyway this is a mass market car, higher ride height would promote better ingress and degress especially to the elders
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post Aug 18 2013, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(siegwarhiet @ Aug 18 2013, 03:47 AM)
lol..what are you mumbling about? professional lowyat quality inspectors?  rclxub.gif
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mat79 is a proton insider, he helped a lot resolving proton issue especially preve and exora earlier when launched
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:57 PM)
Lol no more points to bash, ads pun ads la
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well the ads are bad

preve tv commercial and radio ad are more modern and cutting edge

the tv commercial look like from 90's well the radio ad is like everybody is saying
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post Aug 21 2013, 07:37 AM

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And another thing i forgot to mention is Bank Muamalat offer the lowest interest, 2.5%
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post Aug 21 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Aug 21 2013, 09:19 AM)
I called Bank Muamalat, and the operator said, 2.5% rate was for offer during Ramadhan only. It expired sudah. sad.gif The current rate is 2.75%
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The SA told me herself, i guess she haven't be updated

wait for next raya i guess if you want low interest tongue.gif
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