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This post has been edited by kianwee: Sep 22 2011, 08:57 AM

Use this image to test your LCD's color and to detect gradient banding.
**Full credit and special thanks to our moderator lex

Link to v9.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1421464
Link to v8.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1220049
Link to v7.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1068719
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Link to v5.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/832727
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Link to v3.10 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/374456

This post has been edited by lex: Mar 11 2011, 04:03 AM

Wow, v10 already, must celebrate! LOL
Anyway, how to know if there's banding?
I notice there's sort of line through out lower blue, mid green and upper yellow, is that banding?

hi guys. any idea where i can get an Acer H233H? been looking for it for sometime now~thanks

U2311H still one of the worth buying

wah.. V10 already. Dell FTW!!! Btw, acer H233H is kinda hard to find nowadays. Now acer S231HL and their siblings is popular among other acer LCD.

This post has been edited by killer zone II: Nov 19 2010, 10:22 PM

any mind to share the u2311H..
coz so long ady..it still the worth monitor been discuss..
so sad din bought it last time..

@seniors of the thread (whoever familiar with Dell's lcd price)

Is this worthy?
Dell S2409
I got 1 seller selling this at RM350, do you all think worth to buy it.
Actually i got my own 22' samsung but will do duo-monitor in future, so getting another.

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Added on November 20, 2010, 2:00 amsorry bro, no longer interested to the monitor after go through the spec, the contrast is too low for me even though the size really nice

This post has been edited by jasmineivan: Nov 20 2010, 02:00 AM

Good Lcd screen need to calibrate into perfect colour.

But i dont know what software =S

guys..i just bought this acer aspire one d255....and the lcd screen cracked on the top right and with a cracked line to the bottom left of the screen..

is it under warranty? obviously takde waranty kan? shoot..how much this thing will cost me? please help...its kinda urgent...

The price is not bad but there are 2 issues on S2409W:
1) HDMI audio delays like 5 seconds during game/app loading - quite annoying
2) Blurry graphics on laptop - I'm not sure whether this happen to all GPUs but mine is 8600m GT

Now using 3008WFP, it took time in booting up the display - kinda annoying for me especially when playing with BIOS settings.

Do use S2409W here, not really facing any blurry issue on Atom netbook, 945 chipset. Did not try the HDMI.

can recommend me a real good lcd monitor ? budget rm800. oh 22"/23" will do. thanks !

i tried to nego Dell U2311H price at Dell online but they said the price is fix. how did you all nego on Dell online??

online chat, last time was Gavin, this guy is famous, try to dig up v9 for his e-mail.

got his email ady
Wei_Zhen_G​ark@DellTea​m.com

but when i chat online they said he has left Dell

Using an AOC e2343f, not a bad one tho, price cheaper than other 23" led some more.

Ready for wall mount,e specially look from side view the slimness

someone ?

bro rm800 i think u can get any brand 23" already la, just look at their specs and warranties

wah bro , running at 1920 x 1080 ? havent try my netbook with 24inch , wonder how it perform

My Intel Atom (desktop) has no issue with 1080p, web browsing is a breeze (Windows XP), but not sure about Flash content though.
Laptop is Dell Studio 1555, no issue output to VGA at 1080p as well, graphics is crisp, no screen refresh issue as well.
If my Atom N230 can handle 1080p, I'm sure netbook can handle it as well (same G945 chips).

Acer S231HL vs Dell ST2320L.. which one better? These 2 monitors offer a good price.. Any other suggestion?

how much for it?

At that budget u can get Dell U2311h (23"), this thread 1st choice lcd monitor for RM649, or get its smaller sibling U2211h (22") RM609. Can only buy online though.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/my/en/business/mon...s=mybsd1&~tab=5

If u need more info u can read LCD Monitor v9 thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1421464

This post has been edited by CallOfLegend: Nov 21 2010, 10:29 PM

do try out, it is not that bad, at least for some browsing work, I did not enable dual monitor though

dellteam.com usually means working on contract basis loh~

i got two u2311h & 2709w, all ARB
hmmm maybe should sell off 2709w & grab the third IPS 23" for eyefinity

if so, whats your recommendation ?

Guys, would like to hear from ur opinion.
Actually i want to get a U2311H for my gf, but she has some issue with the dell brand. Tak tahu kenapa...
So she want to get a LG E2350T or samsung BX2350 instead.
but samsung is too expensive, so left out dell and lg.

Can u guys give me some comment on the LG LED monitor?
Its LED, more dynamic contrast then dell, but CHEAPER.
why?!?!

Both LG E2350T and samsung BX2350 are TN panel type lcd, compared to Dell U2311h which is IPS panel (CCFL backlight).
IPS panel have more accurate color production and better viewing angle than TN panel, and IPS panels are more expensive than TN panels.
Dynamic contrast is just the ratio between brightest color to darkest color it can produced. It doesn't necessarily means better picture quality.
The main advantage of LED backlight is that it has lower power consumption, better contrast ratio, and probably faster startup time than CCFL.

This post has been edited by CallOfLegend: Nov 22 2010, 12:33 PM

No one can answer?

IMHO both monitor won't vary much in picture quality, just choose any. Better suggestion would be LG E2350T but i has no hdmi input.

For me, Samsung is better then LG while display together. nice design and display color. worth with the price.
Dynamic contrast number is nothing for me. You see Samsung BX2350 give up that kind of advertising. It just stated MEGA DCR. Ignore that number, view yourself with your eyes decide it.

You might can consider AOC too, model IF23(IPS panel too, same as U2311H), and caming soon product AOC Razor - worlds slimmest led monitor

Both are so so average monitor. Can't tell which one best between this two monitor. Best is go view demo unit by yourself.

This post has been edited by Onion-KiD: Nov 22 2010, 06:23 PM

Do we need warranty card to claim warranty for Samsung monitor at PJ SC?

All IT dint even chop the warranty card.

for Samsung's product, you need to Online register when you purchase the item.

You didn't do the registration?

Bros out here. Does anyone knows what is the screen size different between 14 and 15 inch for notebooks? I'm comparing n82jq. I'm using 15.4" wide display asus notebook. Thank you.

14" are mostly 1366x768, 15" can be 1366x768 and some higher end (Alienware) can goes up to 1920x1080

LOL I thought he was trolling, didn't know screen size is referring to display resolutions
You have to look at the specs to know the resolution, I saw 14" even goes as high as 1600x900, or maybe 1920x1080 (yes, Dell Latitude has it).
Didn't know any points of having such high res, but some people just have very darn good eagle eye, haha

agree. looking at 10pt font with 1920x1080 on 15" is a pain in the eyes.

That's why imma wanna get a U2311H.Still the best bang for buck monitor eh

As long as u have receipt from the shop you purchase, or shop warranty sticker paste at behind monitor which got stated the month and year of purchase. you can claim warranty from Samsung SC. Else they will count from month of manufacture which got printed at the back of lcd.

Went to Samsung PJ today, just give them the lcd, they dint ask for receipt nor warranty card

HDMI audio it very buzz..
i oso get burry graphic with my hdmi laptop DELL XPS..
but cause u say so..i having the same GC with u..so i cant sure y so blurry..

This post has been edited by ScOttY_PanG: Nov 24 2010, 02:12 AM

The S2409W is lousy, changed to 2333SW+ no more blurry.

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Added on November 24, 2010, 8:20 amtoo bad..no $$ change..still using@@

This post has been edited by ScOttY_PanG: Nov 24 2010, 08:21 AM

guys, im planning to buy p2770H samsung to replace my current t220 monitor.. any gud review over this p2770h monitor? the price tag is around rm1.1k, the price is within my budget but if there any other recommendation?any better monitor with my budget? i mostly gaming and watched movies..

Guys, how do you all rate on SP2309W?
Personally feel that this monitor is what I'm looking for(perhaps the perfect match)..
but then Msia Dell not selling this product, maybe I have to look on foreign site like Amazon or Ebay?

If hard to get this my backup plan will be U2311H, but then no HDMI really bothers..

This post has been edited by moonsault: Nov 25 2010, 03:18 AM

Going to get a new monitor to do duo display, suggest the best you think and fit my budget (RM500 rough)

DVI = HDMI without audio

i'd rather take u2311h, got displayport incase u wanna go eyefinity

This post has been edited by fr0sti3: Nov 25 2010, 01:47 PM

DVI and HDMI visual output is totally same? (newbie for display here)

GC with HDMI just for transfer the audio output only?
ANyway for me the HDMI cable looks so nice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

wiki it dude

lol lazy to do explanation to noob.
Never mind i read the link, i learnt something.

It has been explained for many times over the last few threads so it felt like... (you get what I meant)

Anyway HDMI will only be useful for Full HD device (PS3, XBOX360, Blu-Ray player, etc.) otherwise DVI does it same anyway, even my Intel Atom using VGA on Full HD has no issue, just can't watch Full HD movie only (low-end Atom mah ).

actually now i realize HDMI got nothing special, but it is a very universal port that lot console are using, so display devices with HDMI port can be used for lot purposes, this is what i understand now (is it true?)

1/2 true Having 2 or more HDMI ports monitor/TV enables you to connect to various devices/console without the needs of converter and without the hassle of dissemble and reassemble them. That's reason why some big TVs come with 2 or more HDMI ports.

From my understanding still true what, means HDMI can is the port that "universal" to lot console.
With extra of these port just no need dissemble and assemble only, but still choosing either to display right? cant be half screen ps3 half screen pc ma.

i need some suggestion about this few monitor...
which 1 that do u guy think that i need to choose...
Acer G205H
Acer S201HL
Samsung E2020X
ViewSonic VA2013wm
which 1 better..??caz my budget js around RM500...or u guy got better recommend ?thanks

Samsung E2020X or LG E2050T. Just my 2cent

Just want to share my experience about warranty claimed using dell product, st2410 monitor to be exact.

my st2410 has been blinking occasionally since last week and i only to manage in claimed the warranty today.

firstly, i dial 1 800 88 0022 and pressed 1 to connect in technical department. Next, the girl technician ask me what is wrong with my monitor and i said the monitor is blinking like there's no tomorrow.

She ask whether I already try with the other computer and i said yes, I also explain to her that my original reciept has gone and she said it's ok, juz provide her with the serial number that came at the back of monitor,

she check the status of my warranty and she said;"ok sir, we'll exchange your monitor with the new one and on monday nxt week by 5pm you'll get ur monitor' I were just like wtf? so hassle free one! thank god! hahaha!

Thumbs up for Dell! for excellent after sales service!

my friend just bought it few months back.okay la for the price.
I think cheapest you can get here in lowyat is around rm8xx, the price my friend bought, you can ask him, sirknieghf.

The first thing that I saw this reply is, complains but as I read to the end, LOL...

Anyway, this is why some people choose Dell, I like it also, and because 1 of my boss's client company choose Dell product, I also experience a chit-chat with the Dell technician as well and he answer some of my question really well, their service is top notch.

Oh, there's some complaints as well last time about Dell, I guess they do improve from time to time.

Just wondering is there any retail shop to pick up a Dell U2311H, rather than order it online? (No one to receive it at home during weekdays)

This post has been edited by zpingw: Nov 27 2010, 09:50 AM

Guys, need some help. I'm trying to find a 24" monitor in a 16:10 aspect. Most of the monitors now are 1920x1080.

Can you guys point me in the right direction for a monitor at least 24" with 1920x1200 resolution? Unfortunately my budget does not exceed 1300. TN panels are ok with me.

based on that their customer service here is top notch,however in other countries their are notoriously bad

Nope,there isn't any physical shop that sell it.
You can try searching for a U2410 in garage sales,last time i checked getting it for RM1300+- is possible.
There isn't any other 24" 1920X1200 LCD that is currently being sold that i know off

you can put your office address =D

16:10 slowly to absorb due to market demand. Too much people prefer 16:9 rather then 16:10. Sad case for User wanted 16:10 aspect model.

The last i saw is Fujitsu brand 24" TN by Hikari85. But she look like no more selling, product removed from her list =(

guys..my budget below rm600..

looking for 23". which 1 u all prefer..

You can search "Dell Monitor" at "Trade Zone", there's one company that sells dell 23" below RM600, if not mistaken is JREnterprise.

sifu2, wan to ask u guys about Dell S2309WFP monitor...
how is the pics quality to play games n watch hd movies...
thx!

for below RM600 there's the LG E2350T,though i highly recommend you adding RM50 more for Dell's U2311H.Better panel,better stand,better warranty,4 USB ports for only RM50 more.

I also agree with Racerx. U2311h really worth the extra RM 40. Current Price from Dell online is RM 639

what diffrent this 2?

Dell ST2320L vs Dell U2311H?

i think want get Dell ST2320L,but u all say take Dell U2311H..why eh??

Most of pros here probably tiresome already with basically almost the same questions and answers over & over again. Any way

Short Answer: IPS panel (U2311h) >> TN panel (ST2320L)

Long Answer: read the previous version of this thread, if you have the time.http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1421464

Maybe kianwee can add to the 1st page the recent suggestion list of what monitor to buy, as well as what to look for when getting a LCD monitor and a little bit explanations of the technologies related to the LCD, if that is not too much of bother.

This post has been edited by CallOfLegend: Nov 29 2010, 12:36 AM

expected answer

i think i take U2311h..thx all..

here some poison for Dell U2311H vs Samsung 226BW
Pictures speak thousand words
monitor wise , 226BW 22" seems bigger than U2311H 23"
no wonder manufacturer tends to use 16:9 , cut cost cut cost





This post has been edited by Irishcoffee: Nov 29 2010, 01:50 AM

Someone get all these PIN!! almost getting confused myself explaining all these over and over again....
Mind tell me the settings of your U2311H? brightness, contrast, RGB?

guys any suggestion for monitor which is comparable to current imac monitor? size around 24" is enough for me, i know thats ips panel, but im not sure if all ips panel same with imac or they did improve something else.
What i currently have in mind is Dell U2311H. What do you think?

How much can you pour out from your pocket is another issue, the more the better, U2410 is another better one, more features and of course more $$ to spend to.
Dell IPS is value, not the best neither the worst, you can find those good one like iMac, expensive, premium, good looking as well, but that's you have the budget.
I'm not too sure which one the best out there, but those very very good one might only available through online purchase, overseas, expensive + heavy shipping, if you can pour that kind of money, it's worth every cents

p/s: Better start using your mouse more by clicking each page and looking at U2311H comments/reviews... people here are pretty frustrated by that question

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Nov 29 2010, 11:54 AM

why at here i see Dell 2209WA more nice?

This post has been edited by Mr.CoMoT: Nov 29 2010, 12:18 PM

By looking at the price at Dell website also amaze me at first, but now I know why... U2311H does not inherit much of perfect viewing angle from its brother, could be the reason it's cheaper as well.
But overall the color production is on par with other IPS so....

Dell 2209WA is RM739. IPS panel too. Some forumers said that the panel quality might be better than U2311h. Anyway both are good.

This post has been edited by CallOfLegend: Nov 29 2010, 12:34 PM

ya price also rm7xx

Thanks. I just did my rough research, seems that imac monitor utilizes the LED, currently the only monitor on par with imac is Dell U2711 and it costs rm2700.

when i check at dell website, they got offer "Price Includes RM xx Instant Cash Redemption". What does that means?

It's just their marketing gimmick. Means that the quoted price already been discounted from the original price.

the Dell 2209WA has a better panel,but the resolution is not enough imo.Your choice though [U2311H is already very good,iinm it loses out to the 2209WA in terms of colour uniformity and viewing angles.]

which monitor should i get for price around RM200?

With budget RM200 is pretty low for new lcd. 17" around RM300 +/-
You can consider 2nd hand LCD or CRT monitor.

Hello sifu2, I lost track on the warm to cool (left to right) gradient or is it vice versa issue for some time ago for the dell U2311H;
Does it still have this problem so will it affect so much to me because I do occasionally when the grass out there is greener(freelance job) do some photo/image editing & web page designing. Planning to get one IPS soon. Any advise will be great.

dell brand very good product compared to LG,samsung and more??

Get the 2209WA instead if you serious about the issue, from what I see, I didn't saw anyone report any problem on 2209WA yet, it's 22", 1680x1050 (16:10 ratio), it has better quality compare to U2311H, price is tad higher too...

Then, on the other hand... if you want to enjoy 1080p movie... buy the U2311H...


I can't say Dell brand is good, but the service and warranty they provide is top notch in Malaysia, that's pretty much all, other than that, Samsung has good monitor bezel design, very curvy, very slim yet sturdy stand (I haven seen anyone got the super slim stand broke yet). LG is value, the LG E2350T seems to have good review on the Internet as well.

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Nov 30 2010, 06:54 PM

hello sifu-s.....
can u all reccomend me a monitor full Hd around RM600??
and i have a question....monior usually got no built in speaker like the Tv do right???
then if i want to use the monitor to play my ps3 i need to buy another speaker/home theater am i right??

Dell U2311h (RM639)
Dell U2211h (RM599)
LG E2350T (around RM560)

Yes, most monitor don't have built-in speaker.

For guide on how to connect PS3 to LCD monitor can read here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1571538&hl=PS3

btw..where is the best spot to buy LCD monitor around melaka??
since i am a student KL is too far for me...

hello guys..
can somebody recommend me a minimum 20" monitor FullHD that is less than Rm500??
if is possible la.. PLZ n TQ