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post Dec 20 2010, 05:26 PM

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benq not release its va panel lcd yet?
oh my, looks like i have no choice but to buy dell ultrasharp
im prefer va panel than ips, because of better colour production and higher typical contrast ratio cry.gif

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post Feb 10 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Feb 10 2011, 12:01 PM)
Guys... I have a LCD 24inches, 1920x1080 resolution... right now.... IPS didn't provide any 24inches. ( So far i checked there isn't, please enlighten me if there is. ). So i might plan to get the 23inches one, since it has the same resolution as my current LCD... But will the size be matter if I view it ? Cause one is 24 inches and another is 23inches...
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if u want cheap, i guess i can recommend toshiba 24ps1 link(full hd panel with led backlit) lcd tv as monitor. Check it out on senheng shop , can confirm its using ips display (since its cheap, i guess they use e-ips, and there is no trailing when touching the panel)

p.s - sorry for recommending lcd tv for 24 inch display, bcoz the only ips/va offering are only dell u2410 and benq ew2420 and vw2420h (which both benq lcd are no availability yet in local market)

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post Feb 10 2011, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Feb 10 2011, 05:23 PM)
how much does it cost bro?seems mighty interesting biggrin.gif
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the cheapest i found sell by lyn forumer kevinc66 for rm888, ya its expensive than normal monitor, but with led backlit, tv tuner, hdmi and speaker, i guess its worth it.
But there is no guarantee it will support multiple resolution like normal monitor.
resolution support for vga only 800x600,1024x768,1280x1024,1280x768,1360x768, others may come out with weird scalling and cropping, even i have problem to use 720p resolution on vga for my lcd tv doh.gif
for hdmi, guess support common resolution 480i/p,576i/p,720p,1080i/p
from quick viewing in shop, the video (i guess 720p video) play nicely and great color, just the screen are too small for home viewing doh.gif view angle are similar to other lcd tv except samsung small lcd tv (<32 inch) which just use tn panel doh.gif
QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Feb 10 2011, 05:34 PM)
Does it come with display port slot?
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no, displayport are only for monitor right now doh.gif for me, it just an hdmi without audio. If want to use, then displayport to hdmi adapter are required

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post Feb 24 2011, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Feb 24 2011, 05:55 AM)
any recomendation for a new monitor?
currently is using a dell 22" with only a vga and dvi input.
I would like to plug in my ps3 into it. At current, i am using a dvi-hdmi converter for my ps3 which is troublesome. So i thought changing a new monitor would be more easier for me.

i am looking for 27",led,hdmi capable. But there is no such thing. sad.gif
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why u need led by the way? ccfl backlit produce better image for the same panel compared to edge lit led panel. The only good led were rgb led, which you can only find on dell laptop only. u will find out that great lcd monitor such as u2711h, u2410 didnt use edge lit led backlit
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post Mar 14 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(jeopardise @ Mar 14 2011, 10:00 AM)
i love the simple industrial look for Dell monitors and the mechanical buttons too. It perfected my L-2000 desktop.

Because of the narrow bezel, I can combine it with other monitor very well. When it rotated it'll still look nice and balanced.
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actually consumer level product for dell looks pretty stylish,maybe to cover the picture quality flaw doh.gif
got my u2311h, colour are not as accurate as samsung va panel monitor(samsung 214t,which comparable to u2410 level maybe) but really satisfy for its price thumbup.gif
the only complain is noticeable grainy screen and too bright(with 0 brightness) doh.gif

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post Mar 14 2011, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(apecorp @ Mar 14 2011, 03:18 PM)
Is the grainy thing very BAD??.....And noticeable during when??...i plan 2 get 1 also, but i wanna know the cons of dis U2311h.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Mar 14 2011, 04:47 PM)
Can you show us the grainy screen? Should use good camera with ISO50 and no flash to get a good picture. notworthy.gif
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grainy screen are normal for screen with antiglare coating, nothing serious here, maybe i look it too near(+-30cm) thats why noticeable sweat.gif
but i still recommend u2311h to other, i can give 9.7/10 for rating thumbup.gif

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post Mar 15 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(jeopardise @ Mar 15 2011, 01:43 AM)
I think the only con that I found are
1. No HDMI
2. A bit slow on power back on (took about 40 secs)
What grainy thing? Is it the backlight so uneven when viewed in dark environment? hmm.gif
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hdmi can always been converted to dvi-d or displayport as long as u have the required adapter and monitor that using hdcp, audio can always get from optical,composite,3.5mm jack,just requires lots of cable and adapter whistling.gif
u sure it takes 40 sec,mine like 5 seconds only(viewing dell logo), the revision for monitor are A01
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Mar 23 2011, 10:12 PM)
And the probability of getting a defective panel increases with larger sizes, so the cost of manufacturing them to get a good panel is even higher.
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manufacturer have acceptable defective pixel count, they can use the panel if there is 1-2 dead pixel (stuck pixel are unacceptable), unless the panel use for professional class lcd like u3011h

finally other manufacturer that release cheap ips/va panel lcd monitor,hope to see tn panel die in shame biggrin.gif
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Acer introduced two new B-series PC monitors that make use of vertical-alignment (VA) panel technology, and LED backlit illumination. The Acer B243HLCOymdr is a 24-inch model, while the B273HLOymidh is the 27-inch part. Both displays feature full-HD (1920 x 1080) resolution, and 100 million to 1 dynamic contrast ratio, providing a "zero bright dot guarantee". With 8 ms response time, the B243HLCOymdr is the snappier among the two, it features 250 cd/m² maximum brightness, and display inputs that include DVI and D-Sub; while the B273HLOymidh has 10 ms response time, 300 cd/m² brightness, and features HDMI input apart from D-Sub and DVI. The stands of both monitors allow rotating, tilting, height adjustment; the 24-inch model even allows pivoting. The Acer B243HLCOymdr and B273HLOymidh are priced at €249 and €399, respectively.

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardwar...va-led-monitors

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post Mar 24 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 24 2011, 01:49 PM)
Really hope it'll be sold here.
Since last year there BenQ and LG have launched multiple cheap VA and IPS panel LCDs [with WLED backlight no less] but none of them got here except for Dell and AOC... vmad.gif
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viewsonic also provide ips lcd panel,but expensive than u2311h, benq also stated on their malaysian website, but hardly shop sells benq product, samsung also have in their 2333tn, but their colour and connectivity are total disappoinment, hope acer and lg could follow thumbup.gif
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post Apr 4 2011, 06:14 PM

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have anyone have problem connecting u2311h with xbox360, i have mine, sometime its assume xbox360 doesnt send any signal, but when removing and replug back the dvi cable, the signal comes (xbox360 restarts)
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post Apr 6 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(gzavincent @ Apr 6 2011, 11:02 AM)
Guys, anyone know which brand provide TV Monitor??
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you mean the large screen monitor with precise colour for professional work
try check on samsung site, guess u need to make order directly from manufacturer (the price gonna be so high)
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/pc-peri...type=subtype_p2
panasonic also provide professional tv monitor ,but they recommend plasma coz most of them are real 12bit pixel with ditthering(up to 6144 gradiation/231 billions colour)
http://www.panasonic.com/business/plasma/plasmas.asp


Added on April 6, 2011, 11:57 am
QUOTE(ong85 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:52 AM)
dell u2311h 2 usb port is for wat use? just common usb port for plug in eg. pendrive?
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it actually usb hub with 4 port, u can your peripheral easily by just plugging on the monitor, but if you turn off the monitor, the usb hub will have no power at all

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post Apr 6 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(gzavincent @ Apr 6 2011, 12:40 PM)
I mean a monitor that can also use as TV, monitor with built in speaker..
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then buy small lcd tv, they can serve as monitor
u can take toshiba ps1 or samsung 22" lcd tv
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post Apr 13 2011, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Apr 12 2011, 11:29 PM)
LCD has much much lower radiation over CRT any days, I'm surprise you're able to withstand a CRT while not a LCD, it just probably the light emission a bit high, especially the contrast part.
For your information, CRT rays (Gamma, UV, etc.) is way much harmful than LCD, so let just say you probably just overreacted?
Try to tone down the brightness to 0, this should give you the minimum brightness. But, I don't see anyway to work with that kind of brightness.
And lastly, make sure your room's light is well lit, if it's much dim than your monitor than lower the monitor brightness, usually your eyes should adjust accordingly when surrounding lights is brighter, giving you a slightly lower brightness feels on the monitor.
If your room's main light is very dim, then get some desk lamp, put it beside your monitor, it should give you proper well lit environment.
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the con of lcd was too bright (due to backlight), some eye are too sensitive with bright light (including me which using minimum brightness on any lcd devices), and yes i prefer any phosphor base display rather than lcd, actually the radiation are within the safe level,and we human are exposed to many radiation in the modern world (e.g microwave based communication). As long as your eye feels comfortable(rather it is dim or bright), its fine. As for my assumption, many eye problem happens because of too much dependent on light causing pupil(anak mata) not use to dark environment, the eye also need to practice, thats why god create night and day

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post Apr 13 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Fawkes @ Apr 13 2011, 12:28 AM)
Guys, planning to get a Dell U2311H soon. I've a problem though, I'm planning to use the mini HDMI output from my GC, which converter do I need to get?
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use HDMI Female to Mini HDMI Male Adapter/Converter, and then use hdmi male to dvi male cable
if your pc have dvi, why dont u use dvi, u wont have any loss of image quality when using dvi compared to hdmi, and u didnt require any high speed dvi/hdmi/displayport for u2311h since the monitor doesnt support deep colour(30bit) and 120hz

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post Apr 15 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(nick_vll @ Apr 14 2011, 05:07 PM)
Is this LG IPS236V already available in malaysia ?  hmm.gif

LG IPS236V Monitor

user posted image
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its using 6bit+dithering panel, i guess u2311h still the king for bang in the buck doh.gif
the lg ips236v are just like tn panel with wide angle view

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Dell U2311h = 23"WS LG.Display e-IPS (LM230WF2) 8ms G2G
LG = 23"WS LG.Display e-IPS (LM230WF3) 6ms G2G


http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1037009393

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post Apr 15 2011, 12:23 AM

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Wow. If the price is really RM575 only for IPS236v it probably a better buy than U2311h. Has hdmi and LED backlight. drool.gif
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for colour accuracy, ccfl > edge led
only led win at power consumption, plus u2311h are already too bright (at 0% brightness) doh.gif
for future, displayport > hdmi wink.gif
0i choose 8 bit panel over 6bit+ditthering panel
just know that u2311h are also 6bit+ditthering panel doh.gif thats the reason why u2311h is so cheap doh.gif but i already use it, so just enjoy doh.gif
the old Dell 2209WA are true 8bit panel doh.gif

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post Apr 15 2011, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Apr 15 2011, 12:41 AM)
even when using dithering,colour gradients are minimal aint it?The sRGB colour gamut is also 100% covered .
Looks like there's a solid U2311H competitor already rclxms.gif
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but too bad both monitor are not pre-calibrate,so you have to calibrate it with professional calibrator to get near those value
its actually 96.6% for u2311h panel, 72% for ntsc, for lg ips monitor, i guess its little lower (thanks to wled)
but samsung saying that their new pls display are true 10bit panel shakehead.gif

but for me, colour that sync with printer are not fun to watch, not so vibrant whistling.gif

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post Apr 15 2011, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Apr 15 2011, 12:48 AM)
It's not in LG's brochure for PC Fair at KLCC...


Added on April 15, 2011, 12:51 am
PLS ?IINM the newer Galaxy Tab 8.9" and 10.1" use PLS screens...Still,if it is available as PC monitors that would be better.
I'm guessing the IPS236V still uses a matte panel?If they use a glossy panel that would be nice.
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if u can stand having a monitor with face mirror, guess it will be better doh.gif
pls display are only a replacement for their va panel, guess we can see affordable big pls on a few year..
samsung also mention that their pls screen are inferior than their super amoled

actually samsung mention that their 24" pls panel in may 2011, its 8bit panel plus ditthering
it will be 15% cheaper than competing ips with nearly the same colour production (maybe s-ips)
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/23.htm#samsung_pls
its seems that all pls display will be using wled backlight ohmy.gif

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post Apr 15 2011, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(jagadis @ Apr 15 2011, 01:02 AM)
any other barands selling IPS monitors at this price range?
i mean below rm600??
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no, but acer will plan their va panel lcd, hope its affordable
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post Apr 15 2011, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(jagadis @ Apr 15 2011, 08:30 PM)
saw the lg Ips monitor at pc fair today!
the sales man told me 10 units will be available tomorrow so if you want, have to book today by paying rm100!
note: the monitor seems better than the other lg models but something tells me the u2311h is still better!
btw....the price for the lg there was rm659!


Added on April 15, 2011, 8:59 pmjust ordered my u2311h! biggrin.gif
cant wait for it to come!
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whatever it is, lg still get our money coz both monitor use lg panel doh.gif
come samsung, release your affordable va panel now

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