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owikh84
post Nov 20 2010, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 20 2010, 01:45 AM)
@seniors of the thread (whoever familiar with Dell's lcd price)

Is this worthy?
Dell S2409
I got 1 seller selling this at RM350, do you all think worth to buy it.
Actually i got my own 22' samsung but will do duo-monitor in future, so getting another.


Added on November 20, 2010, 2:00 amsorry bro, no longer interested to the monitor after go through the spec, the contrast is too low for me even though the size really nice
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The price is not bad but there are 2 issues on S2409W:
1) HDMI audio delays like 5 seconds during game/app loading - quite annoying
2) Blurry graphics on laptop - I'm not sure whether this happen to all GPUs but mine is 8600m GT

Now using 3008WFP, it took time in booting up the display - kinda annoying for me especially when playing with BIOS settings.
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post Nov 24 2010, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(ScOttY_PanG @ Nov 24 2010, 02:11 AM)
HDMI audio it very buzz..
i oso get burry graphic with my hdmi laptop DELL XPS..
but cause u say so..i having the same GC with u..so i cant sure y so blurry..
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The S2409W is lousy, changed to 2333SW+ no more blurry.
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post Dec 18 2010, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Dec 17 2010, 10:29 PM)
It depend on their quotation oh.. You know some of Samsung lcd, their panel are manufactured from Chi Mei.
Dell U2410 no more action at their website. New model caming soon or shortage?  laugh.gif
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Stock shortage due to high demands. nod.gif
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post Mar 15 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Mar 15 2011, 11:53 AM)
Then it is clearly defective. RMA! tongue.gif


Added on March 15, 2011, 11:57 amAlready in my desktop and testing my U2410, it takes ten seconds from hitting the power on to display my desktop.  cry.gif
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Ultrasharp tends to slow boot after the first or second power on.
I dont think its a defect but it was born to boot slow.
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post Jul 24 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Jul 24 2011, 12:56 AM)
Anyone can get discount on U2412M? 899myr? Worth it to spend 47% more than U2311H?
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wow that day i saw it was RM1144.
now RM899! time to grab some thumbup.gif
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post Jul 28 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(narong30 @ Jul 28 2011, 06:57 PM)
Anybody can let me know,

when 27″ Acer HN274H 3D Vision-ready LCD Monitor will be released here?
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Aiya just wait and see lah. Nobody will know until it's really available in the store.
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post Aug 8 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Aug 8 2011, 03:22 PM)
there are plenty on youtube, u can c how them bend the stand clearly. Before i bought my u2311h, i watch alot review from youtube.
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Lol i think he's looking for the ultrasharp's stand.
Dont think can find it easily, perhaps can visit those 2nd hand PC shops.
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post Aug 9 2011, 07:36 AM

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ETA is estimated date only. Previously they took 10 working days to deliver my S2409W altho ETA is 7 working days. My house is just located about 30mins from Dell. For sure will hire courier company like SkyNet for delivery, so there might be a delay in the process.
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post Aug 9 2011, 12:45 PM

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U2311H - 1920x1080, 6-bit e-IPS
U2412M - 1920x1200, 6-bit e-IPS
U2410 - 1920x1200, 8-bit H-IPS
U2711 - 2560x1440, 10-bit H-IPS
U3011 - 2560x1600, 10-bit H-IPS

From U2311 to U2412M difference is u hv larger res at the same quality.
from U2412M to U2410 u got better quality at the same res.

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Edited! Was typing while eating nasi kandar just now lol.

Btw, i personally would choose U2412M than U2311H. Greater and more features with a nice price tag, lower than RM1k yo!
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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:09 PM)
Haha you trying to confuse people. H & E IPS.

Does the milliseconds play a roll in the ghosting and other factor? U2412M is 8ms. Relatively high.
I called DELL and request for a quote, verbally can give me RM855 from RM899 subject to approval.

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Well done bro, RM855 is another lowest point ive seen so far.

As for response time, u might wanna refer to this:

Response time is a tricky thing to measure, because marketing usually doesn't tell you everything you need to know.

At 8ms you're going to get about the same performance as an LCD TV. Generally, this is good: unless you're superman you're not going to see any ghosting, and tearing usually won't happen (and if it does you can also limit the games frame rate).

Here's what you can expect from various LCD response times:

12 ms or more - You're going to see a lot of ghosting with high speed images. The higher the response rate the more ghosting you're going to notice.
8ms - ghosting is virtually eliminated, although you may experience ghosting on lower end model LCDs.
5ms - ghosting is eliminated.
2ms - this is actually a marketing trick for 5ms LCD screens, although performance will generally be better than screens advertised as 5ms.
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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:42 PM)
Thanks for the information above. Really nice and thoughtful of you bro.

As for the U2412M Ultra Sharp series is generally better and clearer than the typical 24'' in market right? Ultra Sharp is market as premium tacts right?

Gosh, hope I'm not asking too many silly questions
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Yes Ultrasharp which is using IPS panel is generally better than those TN panels used by non ultrasharp models.

IPS generates FAR more accurate colours and displaying FAR more colours. A good IPS is capable of displaying over a billion of colours as compared to TN which is about 256k or so. moreover IPS has wider viewing angle that u could retain 100% consistent colour/brightness at any angle. Thats why price is a lil bit more expensive

QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 9 2011, 02:48 PM)
Ehh? I didn't know can actually do that sad.gif. Already paid RM899 for mine sigh...
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Ahh ure too fast! Nvm lah next time u should know what to do already, ask for discount or nego.
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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 9 2011, 03:13 PM)
You have good knowledge at this stuffs. Which means U2412M model is consider higher end right? Cos the dynamic contrast is 2,000,000:1.
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Thanks to mr google.
Ultrasharp is high end class. TN is lower.
Forget about the dynamic contrast as every manufacturer has its own method of measurement n come out with their own ratio. But seriously Dell ultrasharp is good at contrast especially brightness in a dark room.

One issue that any IPS cannot avoid is the backlight bleeding. U will find uneven backlight appeared from one of the edges or corners. My 3008WFP also suffered from this imperfection.
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So far i found one forum is talking about U2412M

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1615513&page=29
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 10 2011, 04:12 AM)
there is no such thing as 10-bit ips panel,the best are 8bit+frc lcd panel, if there, can it beat commercial plasma screen like panasonic vt30(8 bit) or 8 bit oled screen in colour accuracy and vibrancy and detail  sweat.gif
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm
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yupe, over advertised as 10-bit. 8bit+frc it is.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 10 2011, 06:51 PM)
Just opened up my U2412M! biggrin.gif, love it. My 21.5 inch 2233SW looks like dwarf beside it. Hmm will try to post some comparison pics later on.
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I'm grabbing 3pcs of U2412M for 3600x1920 yo!
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post Aug 13 2011, 07:31 PM

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Today one dead pixel appeared on my 3008WFP cry.gif
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post Aug 13 2011, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(olcheong @ Aug 13 2011, 08:34 PM)
afaik only green/pink tint on white screen and purple tint on black screen for 2410 (h-ips)
never see yellow tint on my 2410, 2209 and home TV

congrats on eye test
1 dead pixel on 4096000 pixel screen sweat.gif
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actually not really hard to spot the dead pixel in black background.
i think i can still live with it right now. aim for two U3011 actually. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 18 2011, 12:35 PM)
I hate the design of the U2412M& U2312HM shakehead.gif
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For that price u cant complain much.
Because it is too cheap. Fork out more money to get a better one which confirm will suit ur needs.

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