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Cyclonechuah
post Aug 2 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 1 2011, 11:00 PM)
If you current game only able to play at 50FPS, 3D vision will cut that in half, meaning you get almost unplayable frame rate, and with extra processing power to process the 3D vision, you get even lower frame rate, so if you're taking 3D vision seriously, think SLi,  think hard and SPEND HARD icon_idea.gif
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you miss one thing. i fix it for you! tongue.gif

btw, from what my knowledge, 3D doesn't mean cut FPS in halves, but i don't have any experience, while i saw some advertisement they say only 5% FPS lost for 3D feature? i can't confirm thou sweat.gif

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Aug 2 2011, 09:02 PM)
you miss one thing. i fix it for you!  tongue.gif

btw, from what my knowledge, 3D doesn't mean cut FPS in halves, but i don't have any experience, while i saw some advertisement they say only 5% FPS lost for 3D feature? i can't confirm thou  sweat.gif
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Well, from my understanding, 3D is like running 2 colors of the same image, and display them alternatively through 120Hz monitor, of which can be differentiate using the 3D glass (from my brain understanding). So in order to process that extra frames and 3D processing, that's definitely going to cut down at least by half. One frame for left eye, and another for the right eye, and make it "looks" like 3D.

I might be wrong about my theory but have a look at this benchmark.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=5

And some explanation why it's halved
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=17243224

Going a bit off topic but still hanging around this thread waiting for the anticipating.... U2412M REVIEW!!!
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Which brand of LCD monitor is better? Samsung? i plan to change my old 5:4 to 16:9 blink.gif
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post Aug 3 2011, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(CBTautoparts @ Aug 3 2011, 02:21 AM)
Which brand of LCD monitor is better? Samsung? i plan to change my old 5:4 to 16:9  blink.gif
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Samsung was old story, already become history, now it's the same for almost all the brand out there on the market, most value so far is Dell due to its warranty and services but you can't go with COD, mostly online purchase.
LG is now not bad of a deal since the build quality of Samsung is dropped and price are still remain higher than competitor.
Also some are recommending AOC? They're pretty good, so far.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 3 2011, 07:49 AM)
Samsung was old story, already become history, now it's the same for almost all the brand out there on the market, most value so far is Dell due to its warranty and services but you can't go with COD, mostly online purchase.
LG is now not bad of a deal since the build quality of Samsung is dropped and price are still remain higher than competitor.
Also some are recommending AOC? They're pretty good, so far.
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post Aug 5 2011, 02:08 AM

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list of all ips panel monitor available in us
http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php
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post Aug 5 2011, 09:51 AM

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Does monitor effect the gaming graphix? if so what is the best LCD monitor for gaming?can some1 shed light on this

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post Aug 5 2011, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ Aug 5 2011, 09:51 AM)
Does monitor effect the gaming graphix? if so what is the best LCD monitor for gaming?can some1 shed light on this
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Wow, how many times had I seen this question asked.
It'll depends on your taste and budget, for me I would recommend U2311H for now and wait for U2412M if you can.
If you looking for gaming performance (your eye is like super eagle or sort of) then get those TN panel which has better response time (marketing BS!) but of course color and viewing angle can't compare to U2311H.

p/s: Still waiting for U2412M review... FaezFarhan MIA! unsure.gif
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post Aug 5 2011, 04:10 PM

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Haha sorry for the late reply guys, I hate the fact that imageshack can't post direct links anymore. But anyway, Acer S243HL vs Dell U2412M =

Colour ~
1. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/dsc0215uh.jpg/
2. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/dsc0230u.jpg/

Viewing Angles ~
3. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/dsc0216vg.jpg/
4. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/dsc0217ya.jpg/
5. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/dsc0218uq.jpg/
6. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/dsc0245xa.jpg/

I wish I can keep both, awesome thing to do ~

7. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/dsc0239jh.jpg/

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post Aug 5 2011, 04:18 PM

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I have to say, your money is well spent thumbup.gif
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Great job for the comparison, TN vs IPS, lol.
Aside from that, color on the Acer is slightly better (Toy Story wallpaper) or is it contrast/brightness too high?
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Aug 5 2011, 04:18 PM)
I have to say, your money is well spent thumbup.gif
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I think so too, quite an upgrade as well smile.gif

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 5 2011, 05:26 PM)
Great job for the comparison, TN vs IPS, lol.
Aside from that, color on the Acer is slightly better (Toy Story wallpaper) or is it contrast/brightness too high?
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Thanks, yeah I adjusted the settings on the Acer last time, but not yet on the Dell smile.gif
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post Aug 5 2011, 07:00 PM

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Can't see any difference. sad.gif The color is almost same
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Aug 5 2011, 07:00 PM)
Can't see any difference.  sad.gif  The color is almost same
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His camera is not so high-end one, the picture is also quite blur but able to gives example of the viewing angle, frankly the viewing angle is same as U2311H (not so nice, not too shabby). sweat.gif

But need to thanks his effort of putting them up, way to go! notworthy.gif
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The difference should be more noticeable if only the pictures were taken in dark
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Thanks for the photo comparisons FaezFarhan.

The difference becomes most apparent in the viewing angle.

Yeah, why don't you just keep both. Use them for different purposes. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Aug 5 2011, 05:43 PM)
I think so too, quite an upgrade as well smile.gif
Thanks, yeah I adjusted the settings on the Acer last time, but not yet on the Dell smile.gif
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I'm thinking to grab one now! Only issue is afraid of defective unit as Dell only have postage sad.gif. How does the warranty for ultrasharp works? I read for the 23" IPS one, it seems kinda bad as in one person had dead pixel but not covered under warranty?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 5 2011, 08:42 PM)
I'm thinking to grab one now! Only issue is afraid of defective unit as Dell only have postage sad.gif. How does the warranty for ultrasharp works? I read for the 23" IPS one, it seems kinda bad as in one person had dead pixel but not covered under warranty?
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I think within 14 days there's 1-on-1 exchange so for even 1 dead pixels its counted, but I haven seen any report on that so far.
Please correct me on this.
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post Aug 5 2011, 10:15 PM

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Q What pixel defects are covered?
A Dell’s Premium Panel Guarantee applies to UltraSharp, Professional and Alienware monitors with bright pixel defects only. The Premium Panel Guarantee does not cover monitors with dark/ black type of dead pixels.

Found this on Dell's website... oh great sad.gif
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post Aug 5 2011, 10:21 PM

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I have asked before for dead pixels coverage, it's 6 total to get 1-on-1 exchange. if you have 5 dead pixels and 1 bright pixel then you're eligible, and even 1 bright pixel only is eligible.

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