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post Aug 6 2018, 11:24 AM, updated 5y ago

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LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V55!

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Persona celebrating 55 threads of awesomeness!!

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TO ALL FELLOW LYNPPOC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:

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For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome to LYNPPC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update your name into the list.


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Price of Proton Parts
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Recommended SC

1)Serdang SC - http://worldcarcare.com.my/WorldCarCare.html
Reasons: Best customer service in all reviews.

2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place.
Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE),
Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia
Tel: 03-80269333
Tel2: 03-80269167
Fax: 03-80269155
HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube

3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.

4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)

Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)

1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. all Klang Valley branches - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol
2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753

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post Aug 6 2018, 11:31 AM

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1st!! haha..Long Live PERSONA!!
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:11 PM

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long live long live =)

btw, just clock 221k last Saturday and did lube service and Proton Servis Jenaris and I did ask them to inspect my drive shaft, suspension and low arms and to my knowledge all need to repair and replace.

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thanks sifu Zen for answering all our queries
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QUOTE(ask_dino @ Aug 6 2018, 12:11 PM)
long live long live =)

btw, just clock 221k last Saturday and did lube service and Proton Servis Jenaris and I did ask them to inspect my drive shaft, suspension and low arms and to my knowledge all need to repair and replace.

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how much they quote you for everything?
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 4 2018, 02:50 AM)
Yes reasonable. Is ur persona B, M or H line? Those H line that comes with ABS and thus uses a bigger servo. The B and M line uses the BLM 1.3 single layer servo. If u are using B or M line, I suggest switching to a double layer servo from Honda VIRS/EK (commonly known as the dolphic eye civic). That brake servo gives a better modulation and progressive feel for the brake pedal as its double layer (ur current brake pedal have to press quite a bit before it starts to bite) and doesnt give too much braking power that will cause ur wheels to lock up easily.
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mine is M-line..2009 Persona..any suggestion where can I find the double layer servo brake & where can I install this thing?

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all hail persona !!

my car 340k km already..in fact its my car 9 years birthday tomorrow lol..
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post Aug 6 2018, 06:30 PM

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post Aug 6 2018, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 6 2018, 04:01 PM)
how much they quote you for everything?
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Near to RM2k including labor hahaha
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post Aug 6 2018, 08:54 PM

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Hi all. New in here. Have looked for existing threads on my questions but can't seem to find anything.

Anyway, is there a thread for Persona SV, or SV owners also in here?

I have a 2014 Persona SV (M), low mileage, just past 29, 900km.

Since the first day I got my car, I noticed the engine randomly revs up to 2 thousand plus, even when stationary and at idle. After a few years, the frequency has did down so now happens very infrequently.

Another issue is that at low revs, the car jerks randomly. So then going usually at slow speed, low rpm, the car jerks. What happens is it suddenly revs up and dies down so the car goes fast slow fast and runs jerkily.

Last perennial problem is the steering column vibrates and rattles annoyingly. Usually it idle on neutral, and also when running at low to medium speeds.

Does anyone else face these problems? Is it just isolated or many owners having these issues?

Thank you.
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QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 6 2018, 06:29 PM)
all hail persona !!

my car 340k km already..in fact its my car 9 years birthday tomorrow lol..
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Tahniah... Congratulations
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post Aug 6 2018, 09:57 PM

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first page! long time didnt post on first page.. lol
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is it when u accidentally let go too much clutch then clutch in again RPM jump?

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post Aug 6 2018, 10:40 PM

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I bought persona sv in 2014 as well, but auto. Currently mileage near to 90k.
I dont have problem you have mentioned.
My fuel consumption is around 7.8 litre/100km
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I bought persona sv in 2014 as well, but auto. Currently mileage near to 90k.
I dont have problem you have mentioned.
My fuel consumption is around 7.8 litre/100km
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Do u feel that SV brakes (additional 2 disk brakes) feels better than B-line, M-line on braking power? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(mlkp88 @ Aug 6 2018, 08:54 PM)
Hi all. New in here. Have looked for existing threads on my questions but can't seem to find anything.

Anyway, is there a thread for Persona SV, or SV owners also in here?

I have a 2014 Persona SV (M), low mileage, just past 29, 900km.

Since the first day I got my car, I noticed the engine randomly revs up to 2 thousand plus, even when stationary and at idle. After a few years, the frequency has did down so now happens very infrequently.

Another issue is that at low revs, the car jerks randomly. So then going usually at slow speed, low rpm, the car jerks. What happens is it suddenly revs up and dies down so the car goes fast slow fast and runs jerkily.

Last perennial problem is the steering column vibrates and rattles annoyingly. Usually it idle on neutral, and also when running at low to medium speeds.

Does anyone else face these problems? Is it just isolated or many owners having these issues?

Thank you.
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I can vouch for the low rpm jerking issue. Happen to me sometime. Not really bad but quite annoying. Same car SV Manual 2014 model mileage 75k

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 7 2018, 10:08 AM)
Do u feel that SV brakes (additional 2 disk brakes) feels better than B-line, M-line on braking power?  cool2.gif
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I cant compare since persona sv is my first car and the only persona that i have drive. smile.gif
If comment on the brake of this car, i need to brake as early as possible to avoid emergency brake.
Of course i have replace the brake previously.
After 2 years, i'm no longer send to SC and only send to normal workshop for service.
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post Aug 8 2018, 11:22 AM

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I cant reason why people has to brake in a sudden. So far I have no problem braking my persona SV. Maybe I have used to it.
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wooow, new thread. My car generally is still good though almost clock at 160k. Just need to check the wiring as once happened to my all motorized parts buzzing and leds in the dashboard are getting crazy despite with the new battery. 2 days could not start. The best part when the pomen arrived, all went fine.

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Aug 6 2018, 10:07 PM)
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is it when u accidentally let go too much clutch then clutch in again RPM jump?
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No. This happens while car is already in motion but at low RPM. The RPM may just suddenly increase or drop causing the car to jerk.
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 7 2018, 10:08 AM)
Do u feel that SV brakes (additional 2 disk brakes) feels better than B-line, M-line on braking power?  cool2.gif
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First time owner of Persona so have no experience with B-line or whatever line. Honestly, I don't even know what line mine is. LOL!

Mine is all-round discs. So far, feel braking is adequate. Certainly better than my previous Saga LMST which had rear drums.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 5 2018, 01:26 PM)
Nope only the front springs are interchangeable between persona and satria neo CPS. The rear is different. the front will be roughly 1" lower after u swap neo springs in.
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new thread!!!
congrats
ori spring for front is already low and making the rear tonggek...
if change to neo then rear even more tonggek... alamak!
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QUOTE(Tirek @ Aug 5 2018, 03:17 PM)
Hmmm mine already clocks 130km after 10 years
Only now i realized to change it haha  sweat.gif
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my car 11 yrs clocked 106km until now still hv more than 50% rear pad left sweat.gif
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post Aug 10 2018, 09:57 AM

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Only jerking I have is when I engage clutch wrongly. Let go too early..
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QUOTE(mlkp88 @ Aug 9 2018, 03:54 PM)
First time owner of Persona so have no experience with B-line or whatever line. Honestly, I don't even know what line mine is. LOL!

Mine is all-round discs. So far, feel braking is adequate. Certainly better than my previous Saga LMST which had rear drums.
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B-line and M-line also have rear drum. cool2.gif
I would presume yours is SV version, last batch right? Before the new Persona.
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QUOTE(efariz @ Aug 6 2018, 04:48 PM)
mine is M-line..2009 Persona..any suggestion where can I find the double layer servo brake & where can I install this thing?
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Can find on mudah.. search for brake servo VIRS. around RM250 excluding brake fluids which u need to buy urself.. Any workshop that knows how to repair engine can install, its a simple task of switching it only. Downside is if u have a Front strut bar then it will be pressing against the bar.

QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 6 2018, 06:29 PM)
all hail persona !!

my car 340k km already..in fact its my car 9 years birthday tomorrow lol..
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wow another 18 more years to enter the million KM club. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(mlkp88 @ Aug 6 2018, 08:54 PM)
Hi all. New in here. Have looked for existing threads on my questions but can't seem to find anything.

Anyway, is there a thread for Persona SV, or SV owners also in here?

I have a 2014 Persona SV (M), low mileage, just past 29, 900km.

Since the first day I got my car, I noticed the engine randomly revs up to 2 thousand plus, even when stationary and at idle. After a few years, the frequency has did down so now happens very infrequently.

Another issue is that at low revs, the car jerks randomly. So then going usually at slow speed, low rpm, the car jerks. What happens is it suddenly revs up and dies down so the car goes fast slow fast and runs jerkily.

Last perennial problem is the steering column vibrates and rattles annoyingly. Usually it idle on neutral, and also when running at low to medium speeds.

Does anyone else face these problems? Is it just isolated or many owners having these issues?

Thank you.
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Check your MAP sensor. Might require cleaning.

QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 7 2018, 10:08 AM)
Do u feel that SV brakes (additional 2 disk brakes) feels better than B-line, M-line on braking power?  cool2.gif
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Yes definitely. Drove H line before.. definitely felt much more better. But it could be due to H line using a bigger brake servo and has EBD built in.

QUOTE(tallrice @ Aug 10 2018, 04:56 AM)
new thread!!!
congrats
ori spring for front is already low and making the rear tonggek...
if change to neo then rear even more tonggek... alamak!
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hahaha.. then use lowered rear springs and roll ur fender out so the tire doesnt scratch the body (only if u upgraded to wider tires such as 205 and above).
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QUOTE(hart932 @ Jul 2 2017, 11:58 PM)
I know its an old post but just want to update the location of MAP sensor for Persona 1.6 IAFM as nobody seemed to be able to supply the info.

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Just use a throttle body spray cleaner to clean the MAP sensor. The degreaser liquid if fast drying. Let the cleaned MAP sensor to dry itself before re-installing.
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MAP sensor location. Old cars use MAF = Mass Air Flow sensor. Newer gen cars uses MAP = Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. Persona use MAP.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 11 2018, 12:48 AM)
MAP sensor location. Old cars use MAF = Mass Air Flow sensor. Newer gen cars uses MAP = Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. Persona use MAP.
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good info... thanks sifu
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 11 2018, 12:48 AM)
MAP sensor location. Old cars use MAF = Mass Air Flow sensor. Newer gen cars uses MAP = Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. Persona use MAP.
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i plan to change the suspension..any recommended brand and model for comfort driving? where to buy original proton brand besides from changing in SC? i'm currently using the proride absorber (black color) and spring..and do u guys use the bush protection kit? the sarung covering the steel part?

another thing, anyone change to the silicon steering rack bush? saw an ad in mudah but dunno what is the function https://www.mudah.my/Wira+Persona+Waja+Gen2...on-46202950.htm

how bout this cannister purge valve thingy? https://www.mudah.my/Cannister+Purge+Valve+...in-42192040.htm

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QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 12 2018, 06:35 AM)
i plan to change the suspension..any recommended brand and model for comfort driving? where to buy original proton brand besides from changing in SC? i'm currently using the proride absorber (black color) and spring..and do u guys use the bush protection kit? the sarung covering the steel part?

another thing, anyone change to the silicon steering rack bush? saw an ad in mudah but dunno what is the function https://www.mudah.my/Wira+Persona+Waja+Gen2...on-46202950.htm

how bout this cannister purge valve thingy? https://www.mudah.my/Cannister+Purge+Valve+...in-42192040.htm
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i can answer the bold part..i change my persona silicon steering rack bush 2 weeks ago..basically when ur steering feels misaligned even after alignment, just check for these bush..the old bush have cracked, hardened & didn't have much grip to the steering rack..i pay rm120 for the bush (pair) & labour service..
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QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 12 2018, 06:35 AM)
i plan to change the suspension..any recommended brand and model for comfort driving? where to buy original proton brand besides from changing in SC? i'm currently using the proride absorber (black color) and spring..and do u guys use the bush protection kit? the sarung covering the steel part?

another thing, anyone change to the silicon steering rack bush? saw an ad in mudah but dunno what is the function https://www.mudah.my/Wira+Persona+Waja+Gen2...on-46202950.htm

how bout this cannister purge valve thingy? https://www.mudah.my/Cannister+Purge+Valve+...in-42192040.htm
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Zordaq workshop carries Proton original absorber with 3 or 6 months warranty (can't remember). I changed my gen2 full set at Zordaq last year.
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QUOTE(efariz @ Aug 13 2018, 05:19 PM)
i can answer the bold part..i change my persona silicon steering rack bush 2 weeks ago..basically when ur steering feels misaligned even after alignment, just check for these bush..the old bush have cracked, hardened & didn't have much grip to the steering rack..i pay rm120 for the bush (pair) & labour service..
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yeah i think my car also like this..i will change it then..

QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 13 2018, 08:14 PM)
Zordaq workshop carries Proton original absorber with 3 or 6 months warranty (can't remember). I changed my gen2 full set at Zordaq last year.
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QUOTE(efariz @ Aug 13 2018, 05:19 PM)
i can answer the bold part..i change my persona silicon steering rack bush 2 weeks ago..basically when ur steering feels misaligned even after alignment, just check for these bush..the old bush have cracked, hardened & didn't have much grip to the steering rack..i pay rm120 for the bush (pair) & labour service..
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I think mine will need to change soon~ cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 12 2018, 06:35 AM)
i plan to change the suspension..any recommended brand and model for comfort driving? where to buy original proton brand besides from changing in SC? i'm currently using the proride absorber (black color) and spring..and do u guys use the bush protection kit? the sarung covering the steel part?

another thing, anyone change to the silicon steering rack bush? saw an ad in mudah but dunno what is the function https://www.mudah.my/Wira+Persona+Waja+Gen2...on-46202950.htm

how bout this cannister purge valve thingy? https://www.mudah.my/Cannister+Purge+Valve+...in-42192040.htm
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ur what model ? if high line use different absorber than normal. proton absorber same price as outside brand
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QUOTE(kausar @ Aug 14 2018, 11:48 AM)
ur what model ? if high line use different absorber than normal. proton absorber same price as outside brand
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i am using M-Line model
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Anyone install this before? ohmy.gif
Price RM488 bit high? Dono tahan or not?
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QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 14 2018, 02:03 PM)
i am using M-Line model
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front can get rm160 and back can get rm104. ori proton
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QUOTE(kausar @ Aug 14 2018, 11:48 AM)
ur what model ? if high line use different absorber than normal. proton absorber same price as outside brand
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What is the difference? Can we use High line absorber on M line?

Is persona SV using other types of absorbers also?
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QUOTE(kausar @ Aug 15 2018, 05:01 PM)
front can get rm160 and back can get rm104. ori proton
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which shop bro? the price is per piece or pair?

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 15 2018, 10:44 PM)
What is the difference? Can we use High line absorber on M line?

Is persona SV using other types of absorbers also?
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dont know but proton said difference buy outside they will give u waja absorber and said same laa

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 15 2018, 04:13 PM)
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Anyone install this before?  ohmy.gif
Price RM488 bit high? Dono tahan or not?
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Don't forget bout the bulb you need to buy for this headlamp. And normal bulb would not be bright in projector headlamp.
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Don't forget bout the bulb you need to buy for this headlamp. And normal bulb would not be bright in projector headlamp.
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QUOTE(kausar @ Aug 16 2018, 12:52 PM)
dont know but proton said difference buy outside they will give u waja absorber and said same laa
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Refer to this link with the part number if u plan to KYB.
That's what i did few weeks back.
Initially i just ask at spare part shop and they simply bring me the Waja absorber.
Then I showed him the part number and he bring the correct part to me.

http://www.kyb.com.my/products/application-chart/
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QUOTE(Asus @ Aug 12 2018, 06:35 AM)
i plan to change the suspension..any recommended brand and model for comfort driving? where to buy original proton brand besides from changing in SC? i'm currently using the proride absorber (black color) and spring..and do u guys use the bush protection kit? the sarung covering the steel part?

another thing, anyone change to the silicon steering rack bush? saw an ad in mudah but dunno what is the function https://www.mudah.my/Wira+Persona+Waja+Gen2...on-46202950.htm

how bout this cannister purge valve thingy? https://www.mudah.my/Cannister+Purge+Valve+...in-42192040.htm
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Comfort but slightly stiffer than stock i recommend proride heavy duty (red) or IMP improve comfort series.. its using long stroke with stiffer damping.. give a slightly firmer feel but stock level of suspension travel.

Silicon bush is more durable than rubber stock bush. the bush is basically what holds the steering rack to the shaft at the bottom of the firewall. normally when worn out i will realised there is free play in the middle of the steering whereby it will slightly left or right eventhough ur car is going straight. it will give that firm feel like a new car after changing.

Canister purge valve is a solenoid that purges the fuel vapor builtup in ur tank or intake. When it spoils u will hear an very fast mechanical tik tik tik sound coming from the back of the IAFM there.

QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 15 2018, 04:13 PM)
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Anyone install this before?  ohmy.gif
Price RM488 bit high? Dono tahan or not?
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seems normal price to me.. If its Eagle Eye or Depo brand then surely can tahan.
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Anyone tried Tokico complete full set absorber with coil spring and mounting? I found a few seller at mudah selling this. Wonder why suddenly got this kind of full set as I thought Tokico focusing on Japan car only. Full set for Proton is so surprise..

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Hi guys, is it ok for me to use toyota coolant in persona?
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i can answer the bold part..i change my persona silicon steering rack bush 2 weeks ago..basically when ur steering feels misaligned even after alignment, just check for these bush..the old bush have cracked, hardened & didn't have much grip to the steering rack..i pay rm120 for the bush (pair) & labour service..
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Hi, where do you change steering rack bush RM120 for part and labour?
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Does installating ccfl ring at fog lamp and headlamp illegal?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 18 2018, 11:26 AM)
Hi, where do you change steering rack bush RM120 for part and labour?
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Auto Haus..they got a few branch, but I change those at AU3 Keramat branch..
link: https://www.facebook.com/autohausKL/
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QUOTE(efariz @ Aug 18 2018, 05:52 PM)
Auto Haus..they got a few branch, but I change those at AU3 Keramat branch..
link: https://www.facebook.com/autohausKL/
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OK that's good, thanks. Coz I enquiry and got workshop quote me over 200 for bush and installation.
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Does installating ccfl ring at fog lamp and headlamp illegal?
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No1 know if it's illegal??

Also wanna ask how much is it to convert engine to a 1.8 mivec? Roughly hw much we need
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 17 2018, 10:31 PM)

seems normal price to me.. If its Eagle Eye or Depo brand then surely can tahan.
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I use Mitsubishi Fuso Mercedes long life coolant, as I'm more comfortable with a coolant that has met Mercedes standards. Mercedes were the first manufacturers to develop coolant for aluminium radiators when copper radiators were still mainstream.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Aug 19 2018, 06:20 PM)
No1 know if it's illegal??

Also wanna ask how much is it to convert engine to a 1.8 mivec? Roughly hw much we need
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Not sure if its illegal. But normally JPJ tak kacau unless its HID lights fitted in it.

Are you referring to 4G93 GSR CK engine? Then its roughly 12k for full halfcut, not engine lantai. Only CK terbalik engines can fit into persona.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 20 2018, 01:36 AM)
Not sure if its illegal. But normally JPJ tak kacau unless its HID lights fitted in it.

Are you referring to 4G93 GSR CK engine? Then its roughly 12k for full halfcut, not engine lantai. Only CK terbalik engines can fit into persona.
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Is it worth to swap engine to 4g93 gsr ck?
Is this kind of engine reliable?
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Is it worth to swap engine to 4g93 gsr ck?
Is this kind of engine reliable?
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Depends.. Reliability will never be as good as stock non turbo engine.
I used to have a Wira swapped 4G63T, heavily tuned to around 380whp. over 2 years i was using that car my maintenance cost me around RM10k.
Lots of things will go wrong such as turbo oil leak, manifold vacuum issue, burnt piston and valve when my ECU failed on me, lifted head when my turbosmart kaput once, car mati when turbo pipes got a leak, engine overheating etc etc.. tons of issues.. RM10k also because most of it i know how to DIY to solve it.. If repair in shop will easily cost more. So if u know how to hands on a lot of stuffs then its worth it.. if not BOT would be a better way to go.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 20 2018, 02:31 PM)
Depends.. Reliability will never be as good as stock non turbo engine.
I used to have a Wira swapped 4G63T, heavily tuned to around 380whp. over 2 years i was using that car my maintenance cost me around RM10k.
Lots of things will go wrong such as turbo oil leak, manifold vacuum issue, burnt piston and valve when my ECU failed on me, lifted head when my turbosmart kaput once, car mati when turbo pipes got a leak, engine overheating etc etc.. tons of issues.. RM10k also because most of it i know how to DIY to solve it.. If repair in shop will easily cost more. So if u know how to hands on a lot of stuffs then its worth it.. if not BOT would be a better way to go.
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BOT able to increase engine output as well? Roughly hw much to do that? I need more power in my persona bt Don wan have many problem. Based on what u told me, I think I btr don't swap engine lol. Scare alot problem
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 20 2018, 01:31 AM)
Yes, as long as the coolant is designed for aluminium radiators.
I use Mitsubishi Fuso Mercedes long life coolant, as I'm more comfortable with a coolant that has met Mercedes standards. Mercedes were the first manufacturers to develop coolant for aluminium radiators when copper radiators were still mainstream.
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lol, I'm purposely using VW G12+ coolant coz have faith on those coolant. DIY changed twice so far, 77k km from radiator cap see still clear no rust.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Aug 20 2018, 02:55 PM)
BOT able to increase engine output as well? Roughly hw much to do that? I need more power in my persona bt Don wan have many problem. Based on what u told me, I think I btr don't swap engine lol. Scare alot problem
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BOT = Bolt on Turbo.. of cos can increase output. around 7-8k without management and add on 1k for management. Prefer to BOT than swap engine cos its lesser hassle unless u want to go high HP. for persona use AEM FIC6 piggyback. whatever the shop fella recommends for u, stick with FIC6.

QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 21 2018, 12:34 AM)
lol, I'm purposely using VW G12+ coolant coz have faith on those coolant. DIY changed twice so far, 77k km from radiator cap see still clear no rust.
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Mine more than 150k km before i changed my coolant. Since my radiator cap always looks ultra green and super clean, i didnt want to kacau it.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 21 2018, 02:46 PM)
BOT = Bolt on Turbo.. of cos can increase output. around 7-8k without management and add on 1k for management. Prefer to BOT than swap engine cos its lesser hassle unless u want to go high HP. for persona use AEM FIC6 piggyback. whatever the shop fella recommends for u, stick with FIC6.
Mine more than 150k km before i changed my coolant. Since my radiator cap always looks ultra green and super clean, i didnt want to kacau it.
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can BOT on stock persona campro iafm engine?
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can BOT on stock persona campro iafm engine?
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Definitely can. But u will have to run on low boost. Around 0.3-0.45 bar to be safe. Since stock internals are not designed for boosting.
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Im gonna do major service soon, 160k mileage, gonna change timing belt, water pump and ATF. Wallet gonna bocor again... estimated to be 400-500

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Y need to change the water tank if no problem?
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Y need to change the water tank if no problem?
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Water pump, foreman suggest to change after 150-200k km mileage.
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Y need to change the water tank if no problem?
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If u don't change it as a preventive maintenence, when shit happens, it leaks or worst the fin breaks and water cant pump, then be prepared for a major overhaul. Can be a life or dead situation when ur engine seize while driving at high speed.
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my besi buruk still working fine , just change 4 Doughnuts and front brake disc
when turning max left/right roll slowly it has sound like tak-tak-tak i tough it was CV joint luckily the good work shop not chopping me they fount is the disc brake makan and left the disc frame hit the brake pad

ori size tayar XM2 $860
front brake disc $280

now i got new problem 8 years Blaupunkt cannot power on, few month ago happen once i dismental all the plug and plug in again it work fine, now happen again
anyone wanna sell the ori player to me laugh.gif

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 24 2018, 10:42 PM)
Water pump, foreman suggest to change after 150-200k km mileage.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 25 2018, 01:44 AM)
If u don't change it as a preventive maintenence, when shit happens, it leaks or worst the fin breaks and water cant pump, then be prepared for a major overhaul. Can be a life or dead situation when ur engine seize while driving at high speed.
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Really scary, thanks for advice. thumbup.gif
Mine almost 160K, think it's time to change it.
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 25 2018, 04:19 PM)
my besi buruk still working fine , just change 4 Doughnuts and front brake disc
when turning max left/right roll slowly it has sound like tak-tak-tak i tough it was CV joint luckily the good work shop not chopping me they fount is the disc brake makan and left the disc frame hit the brake pad

ori size tayar XM2 $860
front brake disc $280

now i got new problem 8 years Blaupunkt cannot power on, few month ago happen once i dismental all the plug and plug in again it work fine, now happen again
anyone wanna sell the ori player to me  laugh.gif
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XM2 less than 1k, consider good deal.

U still use ori player? shocking.gif
On radio only? mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 25 2018, 04:19 PM)
my besi buruk still working fine , just change 4 Doughnuts and front brake disc
when turning max left/right roll slowly it has sound like tak-tak-tak i tough it was CV joint luckily the good work shop not chopping me they fount is the disc brake makan and left the disc frame hit the brake pad

ori size tayar XM2 $860
front brake disc $280

now i got new problem 8 years Blaupunkt cannot power on, few month ago happen once i dismental all the plug and plug in again it work fine, now happen again
anyone wanna sell the ori player to me  laugh.gif
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Yours is the one that looks like Gen2? If yes I'm still keeping mine. Switched it cause I thought it was the cause of the poor reception, but as it turns out it was that free cheap POS Kais** B**s DVR I had that was causing it. Wasted money on a new single din radio + internal antenna from Blaupunkt at that time.
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how to check atf dipstick to know when its full?

After driving, the red fluid should be at the MAX of HOT region right?

mechanic poured 4L of ATF into my gearbox after changing. Researched online, many people said Persona needs 5L.

Currently after driving when I check, the fluid is right at the beginning of HOT area
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QUOTE(diversity @ Aug 28 2018, 09:19 PM)
how to check atf dipstick to know when its full?

After driving, the red fluid should be at the MAX of HOT region right?

mechanic poured 4L of ATF into my gearbox after changing. Researched online, many people said Persona needs 5L.

Currently after driving when I check, the fluid is right at the beginning of HOT area
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Correct

Right before hot minimum level when car has not been driven. Between hot minimum/max after driven. You just need to top up between 0.5L to 1L of sp3 atf fluid
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Aug 29 2018, 08:24 AM)
Correct

Right before hot minimum level when car has not been driven. Between hot minimum/max after driven. You just need to top up between 0.5L to 1L of sp3 atf fluid
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what if its at hot minimum after driving 50km+? top up until its at hot maximum?
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Is that consider too full?

As it keep leak from the cover....


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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 25 2018, 09:14 PM)
XM2 less than 1k, consider good deal.

U still use ori player?  shocking.gif
On radio only?  mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Aug 25 2018, 09:39 PM)
Yours is the one that looks like Gen2? If yes I'm still keeping mine. Switched it cause I thought it was the cause of the poor reception, but as it turns out it was that free cheap POS Kais** B**s DVR I had that was causing it. Wasted money on a new single din radio + internal antenna from Blaupunkt at that time.
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Ori PE player
Radio , Aux in, CD, USB
got think to change but most the 1 din will need to cover the ugly face casing , and dun like 2 din player

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if can modify like this it will be good
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what if its at hot minimum after driving 50km+? top up until its at hot maximum?
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Add 0.5L first. Shift through the gears, drive around then come back to check and top up as necessary. No need to make it exactly 5L.. too much and too little is a problem. Sufficient is good enough.
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B-line and M-line also have rear drum.  cool2.gif
I would presume yours is SV version, last batch right? Before the new Persona.
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Yes, mine is the SV. Don't know if last batch or not. But definitely new version Persona after that.
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Btw just to share with u all.. I went shopping for some parts on Lazada.. Combined with some discount codes and managed to get some really good deals all for around RM2k.
Basically bringing back my nearly 7 years 10 months old car back new. thumbup.gif

Would recommend e-shops in Lazada such as SM Auto, Vanli, The Spare Parts Shop etc.. Good and secure packing with bubble wraps and very quick delivery. Orders all were processed and shipped within 2 days.


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if can modify like this it will be good
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Ya, mine one already change to this version, haha!! drool.gif
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 30 2018, 11:17 AM)
Btw just to share with u all.. I went shopping for some parts on Lazada.. Combined with some discount codes and managed to get some really good deals all for around RM2k.
Basically bringing back my nearly 7 years 10 months old car back new.  thumbup.gif

Would recommend e-shops in Lazada such as SM Auto, Vanli, The Spare Parts Shop etc.. Good and secure packing with bubble wraps and very quick delivery. Orders all were processed and shipped within 2 days.
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Nice share. thumbup.gif

I will shop for this in short period after check tires condition. ranting.gif

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 30 2018, 05:45 PM)
Nice share.  thumbup.gif

I will shop for this in short period after check tires condition.  ranting.gif
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Can get Hankook V12 Evo 2. Very good tires and cheap too. It's ultra high performance category. Mine I got cheapest is Rm270/pcs 205/55R16
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 30 2018, 06:19 PM)
Can get Hankook V12 Evo 2. Very good tires and cheap too. It's ultra high performance category. Mine I got cheapest is Rm270/pcs 205/55R16
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Seems like very good value.
Mine XM2 (195x60xR15) already cost more than that.

Long lasting?
As I know sporty tire normally the thread easily wear out. nod.gif
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Sep 3 2018, 09:33 AM)
Seems like very good value.
Mine XM2 (195x60xR15) already cost more than that.

Long lasting?
As I know sporty tire normally the thread easily wear out. nod.gif
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I know XM2 last damn long but has uneven wear issues the last time I used it. Its an energy saving tire so I dont expect much performance out of it anyways.

Hankook V12 Evo2 is much quieter than the evo1, Grip level not sure as tires were brand new (<100km) when i went up genting last sat and it was skidding quite a bit. It was raining otw up so Im not blaming the tire. Personal experience the V12 evo1 grip level were on par with PS3 and T1R.

Toyo T1R threadwear 240 (or 220 forgot ady) lasted 19k km, PS3 threadwear 280 lasted 28k km, V12 evo1 threadwear 320/340 lasted 33k km.
V12 Evo1 was kinda hard wall and medium compound hence it was noisier than PS3 medium wall, soft compound.. PS4 threadwear 320 but it's way noisier than PS3, but grip level is god like.
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hi guys


last week i went to SC for engine oil change

than the mechanics said some oil leakage detected and came from engine top cover as per photos below and recommend to change the seal cam cover and oil filter cap for a new one.

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and they told me that brake pads almost left 10% for front and 30% for rear brake

for your info my persona sv from year 2014 edition

what do you think?

thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Sep 3 2018, 11:46 AM)
hi guys
last week i went to SC for engine oil change

than the mechanics said some oil leakage detected and came from engine top cover as per photos below and recommend to change the seal cam cover and oil filter cap for a new one.

user posted image

user posted image

and they told me that brake pads almost left 10% for front and 30% for rear brake

for your info my persona sv from year 2014 edition

what do you think?

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seal cam cover is normal prob for campro engine..i also experience this before..

for brake pads it is cheaper to change outside such as bendix metal king and so on..
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Sep 3 2018, 11:46 AM)
hi guys
last week i went to SC for engine oil change

than the mechanics said some oil leakage detected and came from engine top cover as per photos below and recommend to change the seal cam cover and oil filter cap for a new one.

user posted image

user posted image

and they told me that brake pads almost left 10% for front and 30% for rear brake

for your info my persona sv from year 2014 edition

what do you think?

thanks  smile.gif
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I change 3rd times already, 7 years car.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 3 2018, 11:55 AM)
seal cam cover is normal prob for campro engine..i also experience this before..

for brake pads it is cheaper to change outside such as bendix metal king and so on..
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Bendix MKT are some seriously overrated pads. Overheats damn fast and makan disc like mad..
For a good budget brake pads, I will stick to either Mintye or Bosch Pads. These 2 budget brands are the only ones that didnt overheat too much after spirited drive down genting.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/bosch-ge...1.html?search=1


QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 3 2018, 12:56 PM)
I change 3rd times already, 7 years car....  doh.gif
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Change Top gasket/seal cam cover? impossible need to change so often.. Mine after change never leaked till now and that was like 3 years ago.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 3 2018, 03:41 PM)
Bendix MKT are some seriously overrated pads. Overheats damn fast and makan disc like mad..
For a good budget brake pads, I will stick to either Mintye or Bosch Pads. These 2 budget brands are the only ones that didnt overheat too much after spirited drive down genting.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/bosch-ge...1.html?search=1
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How about TRW brake pads ?
or speedex sport ceramic brake pad?
i'm using Bendix MKT too right now for front almost 3 years already.. rear brake pads still not change before..

thanks
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 3 2018, 03:41 PM)
Bendix MKT are some seriously overrated pads. Overheats damn fast and makan disc like mad..
For a good budget brake pads, I will stick to either Mintye or Bosch Pads. These 2 budget brands are the only ones that didnt overheat too much after spirited drive down genting.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/bosch-ge...1.html?search=1
Change Top gasket/seal cam cover? impossible need to change so often.. Mine after change never leaked till now and that was like 3 years ago.
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Seal Cam Cover (the rubber) 1st change on 3 ~4 years, 2nd not last (out side workshop, but say Ori Proton part) is due to I can see Timing belt cover got oil stain, when check change the Cam Oil Seal then together with this.

Last week back to Proton change again, hope can last another 3~4 years... sweat.gif

or due to my engine oil, I keep using 30? As now lot of Proton carry only 30...
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Sep 3 2018, 03:47 PM)
How about TRW brake pads ?
or speedex sport ceramic brake pad?
i'm using Bendix MKT too right now for front almost 3 years already.. rear brake pads still not change before..

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Never tried TRW or SpeedEx before.
Do u see deep grooves in ur brake disc? I never had that problem until i started using bendix.

Racing pads i used before are RS Stop 550C (screeches quite a lot), Project Mu 400C and another 650C pads but forgot the brand. the higher the temp rating, the more u need to heat up the pads before getting optimal braking feel. A 400-450C pads would be more sufficient that enough for normal road use.
Rear brake pads normally wears out slower, about 2:1 ratio vs the front pads. But if its Persona Rear brake shoe then it kinda last very long. I just only changed my rear brake shoes after 7 years 10 mth. tongue.gif

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Never tried TRW or SpeedEx before.
Do u see deep grooves in ur brake disc? I never had that problem until i started using bendix.

Racing pads i used before are RS Stop 550C (screeches quite a lot), Project Mu 400C and another 650C pads but forgot the brand. the higher the temp rating, the more u need to heat up the pads before getting optimal braking feel. A 400-450C pads would be more sufficient that enough for normal road use.
Rear brake pads normally wears out slower, about 2:1 ratio vs the front pads. But if its Persona Rear brake shoe then it kinda last very long. I just only changed my rear brake shoes after 7 years 10 mth.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 3 2018, 03:56 PM)
Seal Cam Cover (the rubber) 1st change on 3 ~4 years, 2nd not last (out side workshop, but say Ori Proton part) is due to I can see Timing belt cover got oil stain, when check change the Cam Oil Seal then together with this.

Last week back to Proton change again, hope can last another 3~4 years...  sweat.gif

or due to my engine oil, I keep using 30? As now lot of Proton carry only 30...
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U can actually get silicon cam seals.. Cheap and good.. Mine so far so good, never leak after 3 years.
Recommend for u to use 40 oil at least.. I tried 30 a few times before, especially when my engine was new and realised my shims were making a lot of noise.
So far among the tons of oil I have used, Castrol Edge/Magnatec, Mobil 1 Formula M, Mobil 1 Gold, Liqui Moly are the ones highly recommended.
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should i change to mineral oil since my car is more than 300k km already? i always use mobile super 2000 10w40 cause it give me better engine response..
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 3 2018, 04:41 PM)
should i change to mineral oil since my car is more than 300k km already? i always use mobile super 2000 10w40 cause it give me better engine response..
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If you dont see any oil consumption issues with 10w40 then u can continue sticking to the same grade of oil. Mineral 10w40 and semi sync 10w40 are actually the same.

If u want to clean up the debris in ur engine ur restore performance, try changing oil frequently. Just use mineral oil (ideally the same viscosity u are using now and since mineral are cheaper than semi sync by almost 30%), try changing oil every 3k mileage. Buy 3 bottles during the next Lazada 9.9 sale, its around RM52 each for Castrol GTX professional 15w-40 from Owl Station. Then get one or 2 of those LiquiMoly Engine Flush Plus around RM35 each..

Use 1x engine flush, then Castrol GTX, then engine flush again, then 2 rounds of Castrol GTX, then switch back to your regular preferred engine oil after that. U can feel the engine lightens and FC improves since most of the internals are cleaned, especially the gunks accumulated from ur 300k mileage
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 3 2018, 05:33 PM)
If you dont see any oil consumption issues with 10w40 then u can continue sticking to the same grade of oil. Mineral 10w40 and semi sync 10w40 are actually the same.

If u want to clean up the debris in ur engine ur restore performance, try changing oil frequently. Just use mineral oil (ideally the same viscosity u are using now and since mineral are cheaper than semi sync by almost 30%), try changing oil every 3k mileage. Buy 3 bottles during the next Lazada 9.9 sale, its around RM52 each for Castrol GTX professional 15w-40 from Owl Station. Then get one or 2 of those LiquiMoly Engine Flush Plus around RM35 each..

Use 1x engine flush, then Castrol GTX, then engine flush again, then 2 rounds of Castrol GTX, then switch back to your regular preferred engine oil after that. U can feel the engine lightens and FC improves since most of the internals are cleaned, especially the gunks accumulated from ur 300k mileage
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wow thanks bro..can explain further how to use this engine flush thing..

i just put the engine flush at my current engine oil..use it about 200km without over revving the engine..the change to new engine oil..use 3k km then put the engine flush use about 200km then change to new engine oil..use for another 3k km and change again new engine oil..then only i go back and use my normal engine oil back..

since its my second car, i think it will take about 6-9 months to complete the cycle hahaa..i have to use the car more frequently then..

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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 3 2018, 06:32 PM)
wow thanks bro..can explain further how to use this engine flush thing..

i just put the engine flush at my current engine oil..use it about 200km without over revving the engine..the change to new engine oil..use 3k km then put the engine flush use about 200km then change to new engine oil..use for another 3k km and change again new engine oil..then only i go back and use my normal engine oil back..

since its my second car, i think it will take about 6-9 months to complete the cycle hahaa..i have to use the car more frequently then..
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For Liqui Moly its different.. Right before changing oil, u pour it in and let it run for 10-15mins. Then change oil straightaway. Dont drive the car.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 4 2018, 12:29 PM)
For Liqui Moly its different.. Right before changing oil, u pour it in and let it run for 10-15mins. Then change oil straightaway. Dont drive the car.
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ok bro thanks..will wait for 9.9 sales then only proceed to buy..
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I know XM2 last damn long but has uneven wear issues the last time I used it. Its an energy saving tire so I dont expect much performance out of it anyways.

Hankook V12 Evo2 is much quieter than the evo1, Grip level not sure as tires were brand new (<100km) when i went up genting last sat and it was skidding quite a bit. It was raining otw up so Im not blaming the tire. Personal experience the V12 evo1 grip level were on par with PS3 and T1R.

Toyo T1R threadwear 240 (or 220 forgot ady) lasted 19k km, PS3 threadwear 280 lasted 28k km, V12 evo1 threadwear 320/340 lasted 33k km.
V12 Evo1 was kinda hard wall and medium compound hence it was noisier than PS3 medium wall, soft compound.. PS4 threadwear 320 but it's way noisier than PS3, but grip level is god like.
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That is really a lot of info. sharing.
Hankook V12 Evo2 seems interesting. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 3 2018, 12:56 PM)
I change 3rd times already, 7 years car....  doh.gif
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I also chg it mostly less than 2 years. mad.gif
Never more than 2 years except the original one.
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Sep 4 2018, 05:49 PM)
I also chg it mostly less than 2 years.  mad.gif
Never more than 2 years except the original one.
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May I know what Engine oil you use? 30 or 40?

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Hi all sifus.
I am currently looking for weather shield inside door panel. Any suggestion on where to get it ?
Any suggestion on any online spare parts store?
For persona elegance.
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 4 2018, 06:07 PM)
May I know what Engine oil you use? 30 or 40?
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I think I got use both of it before.
Is it really that important? hmm.gif
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I think I got use both of it before.
Is it really that important?  hmm.gif
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Nope, is just my own survey. I suspect cloud it be I use the 30 EO that's why the gasket won't last long!

Cos when new car the 1st few years was using 40, and the gasket can last about 3~4 years, which is reasonable for me.

Is just I guess only, due to 40 can take higher temperature, I check with workshop, mostly say not related....
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 5 2018, 10:56 AM)
Nope, is just my own survey. I suspect cloud it be I use the 30 EO that's why the gasket won't last long!

Cos when new car the 1st few years was using 40, and the gasket can last about 3~4 years, which is reasonable for me.

Is just I guess only, due to 40 can take higher temperature, I check with workshop, mostly say not related....
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I also think it is not related.
May be the gasket itself that has different grade~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 5 2018, 10:56 AM)
Nope, is just my own survey. I suspect cloud it be I use the 30 EO that's why the gasket won't last long!

Cos when new car the 1st few years was using 40, and the gasket can last about 3~4 years, which is reasonable for me.

Is just I guess only, due to 40 can take higher temperature, I check with workshop, mostly say not related....
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In reality if ur engine is operating at such high temp that it matters between using 30 or 40 oil, then u need to consider flushing ur radiator and changing a better coolant. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 6 2018, 04:40 PM)
In reality if ur engine is operating at such high temp that it matters between using 30 or 40 oil, then u need to consider flushing ur radiator and changing a better coolant.  tongue.gif
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The Coolant part, I still follow SC standard, using Proton and change every 20k. shouldn't be issue.
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I also think it is not related.
May be the gasket itself that has different grade~ laugh.gif
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Maybe... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 3 2018, 04:05 PM)
U can actually get silicon cam seals.. Cheap and good.. Mine so far so good, never leak after 3 years.
Recommend for u to use 40 oil at least.. I tried 30 a few times before, especially when my engine was new and realised my shims were making a lot of noise.
So far among the tons of oil I have used, Castrol Edge/Magnatec, Mobil 1 Formula M, Mobil 1 Gold, Liqui Moly are the ones highly recommended.
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I’m using Tesco fully synthetic nowadays. Quiet engine and very responsive. 10k km still run smoothly.
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 6 2018, 04:45 PM)
The Coolant part, I still follow SC standard, using Proton and change every 20k. shouldn't be issue.
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Lol.. Mine run for around 150k km before i changed.. I see no degradation in my coolant or any engine oil leaking into the radiator area..
Never had overheating issues too.

QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 6 2018, 10:44 PM)
I’m using Tesco fully synthetic nowadays. Quiet engine and very responsive. 10k km still run smoothly.
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Nice.. Never tried Tesco brand.. Too generic to give it a try. tongue.gif
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Lol.. Mine run for around 150k km before i changed.. I see no degradation in my coolant or any engine oil leaking into the radiator area..
Never had overheating issues too.
Nice.. Never tried Tesco brand.. Too generic to give it a try.  tongue.gif
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Wow.. so next time I can drag longer to change.. maybe 40~50K.... biggrin.gif
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Wow.. so next time I can drag longer to change.. maybe 40~50K....  biggrin.gif
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Time to time just check ur coolant reserve tank level and also open the radiator cap to see if there is any brownish sediments.. Then u will know if a leak is coming out somewhere.

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 7 2018, 09:46 AM)
Time to time just check ur coolant reserve tank level and also open the radiator cap to see if there is any brownish sediments.. Then u will know if a leak is coming out somewhere.
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Noted. Everytime service they also take the reserve tank to check, and sometimes add a bit, sometimes throw a bit... biggrin.gif
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@ZenGTMM i already purchased the castrol oil from owl station during lazada 9.9 sales..bought the liqui moly engine flush as well..

normally how much do shop charge to change the engine oil only without doing other stuff..
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 10 2018, 07:39 AM)
@ZenGTMM i already purchased the castrol oil from owl station during lazada 9.9 sales..bought the liqui moly engine flush as well..

normally how much do shop charge to change the engine oil only without doing other stuff..
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week ago i change engine oil,oil filter, auto oil, valve cover gasket, they charge me RM55 ,
the oil and gasket bring by own.

it you change oil only maybe less more laugh.gif laugh.gif

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I’m using Tesco fully synthetic nowadays. Quiet engine and very responsive. 10k km still run smoothly.
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 10 2018, 07:39 AM)
@ZenGTMM i already purchased the castrol oil from owl station during lazada 9.9 sales..bought the liqui moly engine flush as well..

normally how much do shop charge to change the engine oil only without doing other stuff..
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Oil only biasa cost RM15-20.. Worst also RM25.
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Power Steering fluid below the Max level a bit, anything need to do?
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Power Steering fluid below the Max level a bit, anything need to do?
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I usually request the fluid to be filled to the half between min and Max level. So far looking healthy. Don't think you should bother.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 14 2018, 09:31 PM)
I usually request the fluid to be filled to the half between min and Max level. So far looking healthy. Don't think you should bother.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 30 2018, 11:17 AM)
Btw just to share with u all.. I went shopping for some parts on Lazada.. Combined with some discount codes and managed to get some really good deals all for around RM2k.
Basically bringing back my nearly 7 years 10 months old car back new.  thumbup.gif

Would recommend e-shops in Lazada such as SM Auto, Vanli, The Spare Parts Shop etc.. Good and secure packing with bubble wraps and very quick delivery. Orders all were processed and shipped within 2 days.
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wow... great deals u get there...
but how u know that tbe part is suitable for persona?
by refer to manual first?
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Sep 14 2018, 04:54 PM)
Power Steering fluid below the Max level a bit, anything need to do?
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Shd be ok.. As long as above min.. But u can always top it off if u want for peace of mind.

QUOTE(tallrice @ Sep 16 2018, 09:42 AM)
wow... great deals u get there...
but how u know that tbe part is suitable for persona?
by refer to manual first?
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they will normally mention if the part is suitable for persona in the description. All the parts i bought did mention its suitable.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 16 2018, 12:38 PM)
they will normally mention if the part is suitable for persona in the description. All the parts i bought did mention its suitable.
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oh! thanks... it helps me in the future...
btw, can help to snap the pic of lower arm?
i hv tried to search google but plenty of pics coming out
control arm, lower arm different pic use the same name
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oh! thanks... it helps me in the future...
btw, can help to snap the pic of lower arm?
i hv tried to search google but plenty of pics coming out
control arm, lower arm different pic use the same name
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Front lower arm
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ynw

Rear lower arm, there are 2 types, long and short.. Or they call it tulang anjing.
Short
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Aeb
Long
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.AeU
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 16 2018, 07:10 PM)
Front lower arm
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ynw

Rear lower arm, there are 2 types, long and short.. Or they call it tulang anjing.
Short
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Aeb
Long
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.AeU
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Normally how many mileage need to replace these tulang anjing?
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 30 2018, 11:17 AM)
Btw just to share with u all.. I went shopping for some parts on Lazada.. Combined with some discount codes and managed to get some really good deals all for around RM2k.
Basically bringing back my nearly 7 years 10 months old car back new.  thumbup.gif

Would recommend e-shops in Lazada such as SM Auto, Vanli, The Spare Parts Shop etc.. Good and secure packing with bubble wraps and very quick delivery. Orders all were processed and shipped within 2 days.
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how is the monroe shocks?

my oil bought from lazada owl station has not been delivered yet since the 9.9 sales bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Sep 16 2018, 07:28 PM)
Normally how many mileage need to replace these tulang anjing?
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I also need to know~ cool2.gif

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my power window giving rattling sound when operating up or down. it sound like something lose. what could be the problem?part need to be changed?
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Sep 16 2018, 07:28 PM)
Normally how many mileage need to replace these tulang anjing?
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I also need to know~ cool2.gif
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If your car rear suspension make ngik ngok ngik ngok noise when you naik kereta, it's tulanh anjing rosak already. Even one will also make noise, but usually I change all 4 to save on worksmanship.

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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Sep 18 2018, 05:12 PM)
my power window giving rattling sound when operating up or down. it sound like something lose. what could be the problem?part need to be changed?
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probably the motor unit almost broken...
i also hv rattling sound until 1 day it gave up on me...
then i change it myself...
refer link http://inamigo.blogspot.com/2017/09/replac...wer-window.html
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Front lower arm
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ynw

Rear lower arm, there are 2 types, long and short.. Or they call it tulang anjing.
Short
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Aeb
Long
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.AeU
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that helps a lot... thanks very much...
no wonder all give me the same name...
now i able to differentiate front and rear
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 18 2018, 09:06 PM)
If your car rear suspension make ngik ngok ngik ngok noise when you naik kereta, it's tulanh anjing rosak already. Even one will also make noise, but usually I change all 4 to save on worksmanship.
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Only 4 pcs? I thought rear got long and short one?
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Sep 19 2018, 07:20 AM)
Only 4 pcs? I thought rear got long and short one?
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2 long & 2 short. Total 4.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 18 2018, 09:06 PM)
If your car rear suspension make ngik ngok ngik ngok noise when you naik kereta, it's tulanh anjing rosak already. Even one will also make noise, but usually I change all 4 to save on worksmanship.
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today my car aircond got problem..went to workshop neaby my home and they said the magnet at compressor is not moving anymore..they advice to change the magnet only which cost around RM300 and service and labor charge another RM170..

Should i change the magnet only or change the whole compressor which comes together with magnet? i know its a bit pricier around RM1k plus but if long term who know the compressor might kong hahaa..my car 10 yrs old edi..
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 20 2018, 07:50 PM)
today my car aircond got problem..went to workshop neaby my home and they said the magnet at compressor is not moving anymore..they advice to change the magnet only which cost around RM300 and service and labor charge another RM170..

Should i change the magnet only or change the whole compressor which comes together with magnet? i know its a bit pricier around RM1k plus but if long term who know the compressor might kong hahaa..my car 10 yrs old edi..
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Personal experience. Mine is compressor pulley rosak. My aorcond guy give me 2 options. One is change entire compressor, another is change pulley. Changing pulley is cheaper but the process of knocking pulley out from compressor shaft might damage the other shaft connected parts, resulting compressor failure by leaking or other way. So this is generally gambling with chances and skill of your aircond guy. And this does not means that other parts of the compressor will not fail in near future. Because usually pulley tak rosak carbon pun hampir habis eventually.

On the other hand, he offer me pain one time to change ori compressor. Really painful. I took this option.

I let you decide.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 20 2018, 10:40 PM)
Personal experience. Mine is compressor pulley rosak. My aorcond guy give me 2 options. One is change entire compressor, another is change pulley. Changing pulley is cheaper but the process of knocking pulley out from compressor shaft might damage the other shaft connected parts, resulting compressor failure by leaking or other way. So this is generally gambling with chances and skill of your aircond guy. And this does not means that other parts of the compressor will not fail in near future. Because usually pulley tak rosak carbon pun hampir habis eventually.

On the other hand, he offer me pain one time to change ori compressor. Really painful. I took this option.

I let you decide.
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whats the price for the ori compressor?
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 20 2018, 10:49 PM)
whats the price for the ori compressor?
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Sorry, really forgot about it already. But i remember it's not horribly expensive.

Update:
Now rate in JB is new compressor around 800 excluding worksmanship, recond between 500 to 600. You also need to factor in filter and valve cost.

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so i decided to change the compressor..cost me 700 for original sanden excluding workmanship..the foremen didnt ask to change filter and valve..is it ok not to change it?

i also decided to try the liquimoly engine flusher and change my eo to the castrol 15w40 bought from owlstation @ lazada..my car nows feel very heavy and no pickup..engine sound terrible when accelerating..

is it due to change of compressor or the engine oil?? pls help me..the workshop is close today so cant go there and complaint..

edit: i tried driving again..can it be the compressor because when i off my aircond the power is normal..but when the aircond is on, the car feels like underpower..

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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 23 2018, 02:37 PM)
so i decided to change the compressor..cost me 700 for original sanden excluding workmanship..the foremen didnt ask to change filter and valve..is it ok not to change it?

i also decided to try the liquimoly engine flusher and change my eo to the castrol 15w40 bought from owlstation @ lazada..my car nows feel very heavy and no pickup..engine sound terrible when accelerating..

is it due to change of compressor or the engine oil?? pls help me..the workshop is close today so cant go there and complaint..

edit: i tried driving again..can it be the compressor because when i off my aircond the power is normal..but when the aircond is on, the car feels like underpower..
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Hmm. The theory of my air cond guy is since already buka already it's better to change the filter & expansion valve. The very reason is air cond is closed system. So if you didn't change the filter that works with previous system, the metal sharpnel trapped could dislodge and subsequently damage new compressor.

On the power reduction & noise I seriously have no idea. Could it be the new compressor receive not enough of compressor oil thus hard for engine to pull? Just curious.
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just want to ask, persona elegance body kit are using what material, like those in H & M line model.
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just want to ask, persona elegance body kit are using what material, like those in H & M line model.
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After market some is fiber. cool2.gif


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Guys , I have been told by the mechanics my rear weheel bearing need to be replaced. I was quoted RM100 ++ for a normal bearing , RM200++ for better quality one... Why the bearing so expensive ? Just curious ... My rear is equipped with disc brakes with ABS. I'm wondering the abs and non abs version bearing are different ? My car clocked 50k KM in 3 years time . Why the car so many problem ? haha
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 29 2018, 03:52 PM)
Guys , I have been told by the mechanics my rear weheel bearing need to be replaced. I was quoted RM100 ++ for a normal bearing , RM200++ for better quality one... Why the bearing so expensive ? Just curious ... My rear is equipped with disc brakes with ABS. I'm wondering the abs and non abs version bearing are different ? My car clocked 50k KM in 3 years time . Why the car so many problem ? haha
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You uses as grab is it? What's the current mileage? If mileage exceeding 200k km and many problems, time to change car then. If not mistaken, Proton design Campro engine with 200k km target for service life, so there's reason for parts failing beyond that. Of coz there are many goes beyond and even till 800k km I have seen, but maybe they already changed quite number of parts for maintaining it?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 29 2018, 04:22 PM)
You uses as grab is it? What's the current mileage? If mileage exceeding 200k km and many problems, time to change car then. If not mistaken, Proton design Campro engine with 200k km target for service life, so there's reason for parts failing beyond that. Of coz there are many goes beyond and even till 800k km I have seen, but maybe they already changed quite number of parts for maintaining it?
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No , it's a second hand car btw. 50k km clocked in 3 years. The engine itself is ok ... Just the absorber , mounting , bearing ..... Seems like it's not going to last .... However , I really enjoyed driving he car , so stable compared to other car... I have changed brake pads , absorber mounting so far .... I was just told that the absorber , mounting , bearing need to be replaced as well .

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 29 2018, 04:29 PM)
No , it's a second hand car btw. 50k km clocked in 3 years. The engine itself is ok ... Just the absorber , mounting , bearing ..... Seems like it's not going to last .... However , I really enjoyed driving he car , so stable compared to other car... I have changed brake pads , absorber mounting so far .... I was  just told that  the absorber , mounting , bearing need to be replaced as well .
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How often you drive your car? Thing with bearing is it's wear and tear. I haven't changed mine as of now with 329,000km clocked in 7 years. I won't be surprised if need to change la.. I stood by original parts. If can get original. If cannot just use best quality possible.
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How often you drive your car? Thing with bearing is it's wear and tear. I haven't changed mine as of now with 329,000km clocked in 7 years. I won't be surprised if need to change la.. I stood by original parts. If can get original. If cannot just use best quality possible.
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i just bought the car last year . In this half year , I drove 5000km so far. Total mileage is 56k km now
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i just bought the car last year . In this half year , I  drove 5000km so far. Total mileage is 56k km now
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My gen2 now 78k km, absorber failing twice in this period. Other than that quite problemless except some accessories gremlins such as power window, door handle. Don't have bearing issue thus far. Engine mounting could be not in good condition as minor vibration during idle.

My biggest problem is the heavy FC in city traffic jam, so now I seldom drive it to work now
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May i know kyb or apm provide absorber for Proton to fix on the car when it's new ? Plan to replace it , but not sure which manufacturer provide the stock absober to proton . I hope to keep the car in it's original state...
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 29 2018, 07:55 PM)
May i know kyb or apm provide absorber for Proton to fix on the car when it's new ? Plan to replace it , but not sure which manufacturer provide the stock absober to proton . I hope to keep the car in it's original state...
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On my gen2 it's KYB.
You can get cheaper Proton original at Zordaq, their price very competitive. Come with Proton packaging and stamp.
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On my gen2 it's KYB.
You can get cheaper Proton original at Zordaq, their price very competitive. Come with Proton packaging and stamp.
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Normally how many mileage need to replace these tulang anjing?
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how is the monroe shocks?

my oil bought from lazada owl station has not been delivered yet since the 9.9 sales  bangwall.gif
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Monroe feels very good.. the front has just the right amount of damping and rebound, the back suspension feels a bit softer than i would like though.

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my power window giving rattling sound when operating up or down. it sound like something lose. what could be the problem?part need to be changed?
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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 23 2018, 02:37 PM)
so i decided to change the compressor..cost me 700 for original sanden excluding workmanship..the foremen didnt ask to change filter and valve..is it ok not to change it?

i also decided to try the liquimoly engine flusher and change my eo to the castrol 15w40 bought from owlstation @ lazada..my car nows feel very heavy and no pickup..engine sound terrible when accelerating..

is it due to change of compressor or the engine oil?? pls help me..the workshop is close today so cant go there and complaint..

edit: i tried driving again..can it be the compressor because when i off my aircond the power is normal..but when the aircond is on, the car feels like underpower..
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700 is the normal price, but better to change the filter and valve together la..

try to check in a different shop if they overfilled your compressor. Sometimes that happens, they put it too much gas and it feels too heavy and kicks in and out very fast.

QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 29 2018, 03:52 PM)
Guys , I have been told by the mechanics my rear weheel bearing need to be replaced. I was quoted RM100 ++ for a normal bearing , RM200++ for better quality one... Why the bearing so expensive ? Just curious ... My rear is equipped with disc brakes with ABS. I'm wondering the abs and non abs version bearing are different ? My car clocked 50k KM in 3 years time . Why the car so many problem ? haha
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Im using NTN rear bearings, around RM95 a side for non ABS persona. For ABS maybe a bit more expensive, but not till RM200 level expensive. Its a very good OEM one.
Yes there are different ones for ABS and non ABS persona. Non ABS persona uses drum at the back, ABS uses disc. So the bearing design is totally different.


QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 29 2018, 07:55 PM)
May i know kyb or apm provide absorber for Proton to fix on the car when it's new ? Plan to replace it , but not sure which manufacturer provide the stock absober to proton . I hope to keep the car in it's original state...
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APM slightly stiffer than stock, KYB feel like stock.
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700 is the normal price, but better to change the filter and valve together la..

try to check in a different shop if they overfilled your compressor. Sometimes that happens, they put it too much gas and it feels too heavy and kicks in and out very fast.
Im using NTN rear bearings, around RM95 a side for non ABS persona. For ABS maybe a bit more expensive, but not till RM200 level expensive. Its a very good OEM one.
Yes there are different ones for ABS and non ABS persona. Non ABS persona uses drum at the back, ABS uses disc. So the bearing design is totally different.
APM slightly stiffer than stock, KYB feel like stock.
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The ABS version of persona can use non ABS version bearing ? hmm.gif
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Nope.. design totally different. ABS version have ABS gear on it. like one extra ring of gigi.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/proton-p...8&utm_campaign=[SSA-120000000000-00000-00000-0]:%20All%20Motors&utm_term=[SSA-120100000000-00000-00000-0]:%20All%20Automotive_xxmo0000000at1201_c_aud-301034914304:pla-368366110696&adjust_tracker=t2v78t_5n20iw&adjust_campaign=1415045955&adjust_adgroup=55351287573_c_aud-301034914304:pla-368366110696&adjust_creative=368366110696_201920588_118286978&tracker_limit=1000000&ef_id=WzOaBgAAA8O_lcFc:20180929140335:s

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When u get on the car or driving the car over bumpy road it nyek nyek nyek at the back  biggrin.gif
Monroe feels very good.. the front has just the right amount of damping and rebound, the back suspension feels a bit softer than i would like though.
Sounds like ur motor going to give up soon. Mine also had that symptoms before it gave up.
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Is the Monroe rear softer than stock?
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Is the Monroe rear softer than stock?
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Its been a while since i used stock suspension.. So i cant really remember.. But it does feel softer than stock. Or i have been running hard adjustables for too long to even remember how stock feels like .
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Its been a while since i used stock suspension.. So i cant really remember.. But it does feel softer than stock. Or i have been running hard adjustables for too long to even remember how stock feels like .
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Wow, sounds like you've been testing various suspension... So at the end which one you most satisfied with?
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Drive from terengganu to kl last night. I felt that my fuel consumption is higher compared to normal. Managed to clock only 350km for a full tank 95 compared to previous around 450 for highway drive. Even need to refuel halfway. Speed maintain around 140kmh. EO is liquimoly semi 10/40. First time using this EO and first time using semi. Might be the eo not suitable?
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Sep 30 2018, 02:30 PM)
Drive from terengganu to kl last night. I felt that my fuel consumption is higher compared to normal. Managed to clock only 350km for a full tank 95 compared to previous around 450 for highway drive. Even need to refuel halfway. Speed maintain around 140kmh. EO is liquimoly semi 10/40. First time using this EO and first time using semi. Might be the eo not suitable?
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What oil you used previously, and did you overfill engine oil this round? May I know also your average speed for this particular trip?
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What oil you used previously, and did you overfill engine oil this round? May I know also your average speed for this particular trip?
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Previous using shell helix ultra 5w/40. Not sure overfill or not cos never check. Speed average 140kmh. The oil now reaching 7k km. Possible this is the cause? Eo become too thin make it not efficient when cruising around 4k-4.5k rpm? One more thing, I also change the fuel filter last month.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 29 2018, 09:38 PM)
Just fixed my bumper jatuh by installing bumper clip from eBay. Asked mudguard shop to install for me. Worksmanship RM50. Wasted the guy a lot of time I feel so sorry for him.
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Seems like a sensor~ cool2.gif
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my engine has leaking issue for the 3rd time within a year...already send to zordaq 3x already...the latest one engine look no leak after monitoring for 1 month...entering 2nd month its leak again..

any idea what is the other possible of leak apart from gasket seal cover & oil seal?
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 1 2018, 02:52 PM)
my engine has leaking issue for the 3rd time within a year...already send to zordaq 3x already...the latest one engine look no leak after monitoring for 1 month...entering 2nd month its leak again..

any idea what is the other possible of leak apart from gasket seal cover & oil seal?
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got check whether pcv valve ok?
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Oct 1 2018, 11:54 AM)
Previous using shell helix ultra 5w/40. Not sure overfill or not cos never check. Speed average 140kmh. The oil now reaching 7k km. Possible this is the cause? Eo become too thin make it not efficient when cruising around 4k-4.5k rpm? One more thing, I also change the fuel filter last month.
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If your engine oil level is at full level or sightly higher, this might be warranted situation.

Your previous oil is fully synthetic, thus by theory should be more fuel efficient (but not wallet efficient unless you can get it cheap from Tesco). Changing to semi going to takes time for you to adapt into semi punya slight increase in FC.

I change my EO usually at 5k mark, so really cannot comment on 7k EO viscosity, buy theoretically it should thin down and provide more fuel efficiency at the cost of less friction protection because reduced capability of EO to form oil film.

Anyway try look into your engine oil level will you? I still believer of with MOS2 coating, we can do away with 75% dipstick level of EO in persona.

Something i forgot to ask. Your tyre size will affect FC also. So did you change to a new profile of tyre?
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Seems like a sensor~ cool2.gif
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Lol. Yes. Aesthetically minimalist and the best part is, no need to drill on fender. Just install the bottom screw on fender screw hole.

Bought it on eBay, but accessory shop don't know how to install, asked me to find mudguard shop.
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 1 2018, 02:52 PM)
my engine has leaking issue for the 3rd time within a year...already send to zordaq 3x already...the latest one engine look no leak after monitoring for 1 month...entering 2nd month its leak again..

any idea what is the other possible of leak apart from gasket seal cover & oil seal?
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Sorry to hear that bro. Hopefully your mechanic can catch the leaking place & cause.

@The_FQ400 bro's question is the one I would ask also.
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Oct 1 2018, 09:51 PM)
got check whether pcv valve ok?
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Oct 2 2018, 10:02 AM)
Sorry to hear that bro. Hopefully your mechanic can catch the leaking place & cause.

@The_FQ400 bro's question is the one I would ask also.
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so far didnt check that part...will check later...
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Oct 2 2018, 09:58 AM)
Lol. Yes. Aesthetically minimalist and the best part is, no need to drill on fender. Just install the bottom screw on fender screw hole.

Bought it on eBay, but accessory shop don't know how to install, asked me to find mudguard shop.
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Any link I can refer to? cool2.gif
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Search for "quick release bumper latch" in eBay will do.

One of them is this:
https://www.ebaycom/itm/Universal-Push-Butt...pUAAOSwIM9a1ren

You still need to drill on bumper to fix in the cap though.
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Guys , why my car alarm beeping sound when I lock / unlock the car become silent after driving in the rain ? Is it possible that the moisture damage the system ? Or wiring loose ? How to bring back the beeping ?
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Aiks new thread tak perasan pula.

Hmm going for my 90k km service soon 3.5 years of ownership

Still thinking whether to use 5w30 or 5w40 this time.
Suprisingly 5w30 is slightly cheaper for this case.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Oct 5 2018, 04:01 PM)
Search for "quick release bumper latch" in eBay will do.

One of them is this:
https://www.ebaycom/itm/Universal-Push-Butt...pUAAOSwIM9a1ren

You still need to drill on bumper to fix in the cap though.
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Did you manage to get it installed? I need it for my bumper too.
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Hi sifus,

Usually the brake fluid is change every how much km?
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Hi sifus,

Usually the brake fluid is change every how much km?
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2 years or 30k km for optimal maintenance. This is because brake fluid very quick to absorb moisture. Usually I can feel braking response slower after 2nd year, after bleed and replace can feel immediate braking power restored.
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guys , i can feel the car is choking especially when i driving at low speed in town or stucked in traffic jam . what cause this ? just done engine tuning and i gt my spark plug , fuel filter and air filter change at proton service center . odo is currently 60k++ , 3 years old car
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 7 2018, 08:47 PM)
Guys , why my car alarm beeping sound when I lock / unlock the car become silent after driving in the rain ? Is it possible that the moisture damage the system ? Or wiring loose ? How to bring back the beeping ?
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Tried press and hold both buttons of remote control for 5 secs?
Could be your honk wiring rosak? I got mine damaged (wire sheath exposed) in previous accident and didn't realise it until my air cond guy opens up front bumper to access condenser. Not saying that it's the cause, just would like to highlight how often mechanics or accident repair workshop overlook it.


QUOTE(neochaser5 @ Oct 8 2018, 11:42 AM)
Did you manage to get it installed? I need it for my bumper too.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 8 2018, 02:02 PM)
2 years or 30k km for optimal maintenance. This is because brake fluid very quick to absorb moisture. Usually I can feel braking response slower after 2nd year, after bleed and replace can feel immediate braking power restored.
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Would agree to that. I bleed mine every 25,000km though. I clocked almost 5000km per month.


QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 8 2018, 11:09 PM)
guys , i can feel the car is choking especially when i driving at low speed in town or stucked in traffic jam . what cause this ? just done engine tuning and i gt my spark plug , fuel filter and air filter change at proton service center . odo is currently 60k++ , 3 years old car
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Throttle body clean? Got check on that tak? Last time i got wiring problem causing throttle body cannot open fully. Manual transmission here though.
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Tried press and hold both buttons of remote control for 5 secs?
Could be your honk wiring rosak? I got mine damaged (wire sheath exposed) in previous accident and didn't realise it until my air cond guy opens up front bumper to access condenser. Not saying that it's the cause, just would like to highlight how often mechanics or accident repair workshop overlook it.
Hi Bro, the picture in post #156 is my B-Line Chiffon Green Nana. XD
Would agree to that. I bleed mine every 25,000km though. I clocked almost 5000km per month.
Throttle body clean? Got check on that tak? Last time i got wiring problem causing throttle body cannot open fully. Manual transmission here though.
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Not sure if it's cleaned or not... But the proton sa told me that engine tuning include the throttle body cleaning....
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 8 2018, 02:02 PM)
2 years or 30k km for optimal maintenance. This is because brake fluid very quick to absorb moisture. Usually I can feel braking response slower after 2nd year, after bleed and replace can feel immediate braking power restored.
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Not sure if it's cleaned or not... But the proton sa told me that engine tuning include the throttle body cleaning....
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Oh. If it still choking then better send back to proton to check. My point is it could be due to wiring problem or other problem that general mechanics have no tool to diagnose. Hope everything went well.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 8 2018, 11:09 PM)
guys , i can feel the car is choking especially when i driving at low speed in town or stucked in traffic jam . what cause this ? just done engine tuning and i gt my spark plug , fuel filter and air filter change at proton service center . odo is currently 60k++ , 3 years old car
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What is your transmission.
Do you check the RPM meter reading when car choking?
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guys, anyone facing water coming in from door issue?
suspect is due to the rubber intact from the car body is wear

actually I already replace the rubber (picture below) but water still coming in confused.gif

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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Oct 12 2018, 07:43 AM)
guys, anyone facing water coming in from door issue?
suspect is due to the rubber intact from the car body is wear

actually I already replace the rubber (picture below) but water still coming in  :confused:
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Check your weather membrane. Most likely is weather membrane leak already.
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What is your transmission.
Do you check the RPM meter reading when car choking?
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it's auto . The rpm is normal when it's choking .
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Oct 12 2018, 10:14 AM)
Check your weather membrane. Most likely is weather membrane leak already.
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sad.gif this need professional do ard..... thought can DIY
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Oct 12 2018, 11:27 PM)
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can diy also if u know how to do.
u just need the weather shield gum
butyl gum if not mistaken.

u need to remove the plastic then there will be a plastic sheet that are held together by the gum.
just take the plastic out and replace the old gum with the new one.
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Oct 12 2018, 07:43 AM)
guys, anyone facing water coming in from door issue?
suspect is due to the rubber intact from the car body is wear

actually I already replace the rubber (picture below) but water still coming in  :confused:
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Bro! I have the same issue. The car is like a pool of water after a heavy rain. Do keep us updated. I need to know the solution too
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Can. Can DIY one. Like Mingwei1992 said, it can be done. Although I used UHU instead of proper butyl tape.
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what's the radiator cap pressure for 2009 persona guys? is it 1.1 or 0.9? just change my radiator tower and found out the spare tank water gradually decrease I wonder why.. cap is tight tho

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 12 2018, 06:09 PM)
it's auto . The rpm is normal when it's choking .
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May be need to go check with those more prof. sifu. nod.gif
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I end up using 5w30.

Not sure is placebo effect or it's real.
I feel more power in acceleration as compared to w40

Anyway I noticed there is a sharp drop in oil price and service cost after geely take over.
5w30 full synthetic syntium 3000 SE is only 189 used to be 22x .
Syntium 3000 5w40 in petronas station is 255

And my cost for the service is only 39 as compared to 60 last time.

I did eo and radiator flush this time around
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Any of u has installed gas damper for front hood? I couldn't find the place to install it
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Clip that control the open of the petrol pump lid need RM10?
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where can i buy the original cushion cover for my old persona?
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QUOTE(mingwei1992 @ Oct 18 2018, 10:15 AM)
I end up using 5w30.

Not sure is placebo effect or it's real.
I feel more power in acceleration as compared to w40

Anyway I noticed there is a sharp drop in oil price and service cost after geely take over.
5w30 full synthetic syntium 3000 SE is only 189 used to be 22x .
Syntium 3000 5w40 in petronas station is 255

And my cost for the service is only 39 as compared to 60 last time.

I did eo and radiator flush this time around
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Hi, anyone knows where can I get a full inspection for my car?
Same like Puspakom offers, but more complete if can.
If anyone has a reliable workshop that carries this service.
Just want to send my Persona for regular inspection, not for buy-sale purpose.
Didn't mind to leave my car 1-2 days for the inspection.
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QUOTE(efariz @ Oct 23 2018, 03:57 PM)
Hi, anyone knows where can I get a full inspection for my car?
Same like Puspakom offers, but more complete if can.
If anyone has a reliable workshop that carries this service.
Just want to send my Persona for regular inspection, not for buy-sale purpose.
Didn't mind to leave my car 1-2 days for the inspection.
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For what purpose? brows.gif
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Oct 24 2018, 02:18 PM)
For what purpose?  brows.gif
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New price include sst.
The old price still need add get 🙃🙃🙃
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hi guys, i noticed that the hose from power steering pump is leaking..how much to fix the hose? i got quote from workshop nearby my hse around rm200..but dunno the details whether they change together the power steering oil or not..
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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 25 2018, 04:15 PM)
hi guys, i noticed that the hose from power steering pump is leaking..how much to fix the hose? i got quote from workshop nearby my hse around rm200..but dunno the details whether they change together the power steering oil or not..
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This is my breakdown for replacing the power steering hose last year

- Replace power steering hose RM25
- Upper power steering hose RM20
- Lower hose clip RM3 x 2
- Upper hose clip RM2.50 x 2
- Power steering fluid RM30.91
- Labour to replace power steering hose RM40

Total - RM126 (maybe ranges from RM125 - RM160)
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QUOTE(ask_dino @ Oct 25 2018, 04:53 PM)
This is my breakdown for replacing the power steering hose last year

- Replace power steering hose RM25
- Upper power steering hose RM20
- Lower hose clip RM3 x 2
- Upper hose clip RM2.50 x 2
- Power steering fluid RM30.91
- Labour to replace power steering hose RM40

Total - RM126 (maybe ranges from RM125 - RM160)
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Hi bro, may i know this one is done at proton service centre or outside workshop? thanks
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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 25 2018, 07:27 PM)
Hi bro, may i know this one is done at proton service centre or outside workshop? thanks
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Done at Wakil Servis Proton at Jenaris, Kajang (Emerald Technic)
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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 25 2018, 04:15 PM)
hi guys, i noticed that the hose from power steering pump is leaking..how much to fix the hose? i got quote from workshop nearby my hse around rm200..but dunno the details whether they change together the power steering oil or not..
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How to know the steering pump leaking?
Any signal show on the dashboard?
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Oct 28 2018, 08:47 PM)
How to know the steering pump leaking?
Any signal show on the dashboard?
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saw its leaking from the host..my damage was quite severe..i hv to changed the power steering motor as well..last month change compressor, this month power steering pump..after this need to replace the belt tensioner..haish too much edi..
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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 29 2018, 01:04 AM)
saw its leaking from the host..my damage was quite severe..i hv to changed the power steering motor as well..last month change compressor, this month power steering pump..after this need to replace the belt tensioner..haish too much edi..
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how old is ur car? rarely I heard power steering failure on cars. Touch wood
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Oct 29 2018, 12:30 PM)
how old is ur car? rarely I heard power steering failure on cars. Touch wood
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9 yrs edi and clocked 340k km lol..
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9 yrs edi and clocked 340k km lol..
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Ooohh quite high mileage already. Wear and tear.
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saw its leaking from the host..my damage was quite severe..i hv to changed the power steering motor as well..last month change compressor, this month power steering pump..after this need to replace the belt tensioner..haish too much edi..
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Belt tensioner?
Y? Got sound or preventive maintenance? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Oct 30 2018, 12:32 AM)
Belt tensioner?
Y? Got sound or preventive maintenance? unsure.gif
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got sound coming from there..
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oh my my... my intake is giving taktak especially during the morning warming up, not too loud but need to look for good mechanics to handle these.
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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 29 2018, 12:32 PM)
9 yrs edi and clocked 340k km lol..
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Omg... Means mine anytime... 330k km now...
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Omg... Means mine anytime... 330k km now...
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Huh, u guys really drive a lot.
Mine only 160k after 8 years. blink.gif
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i'm planning to change front brake pads ,
any good recommendation for front brake pads?
my budget around RM150-200

previously already change from original brake pads to metal Bendix titanium (almost 3 years been using metal Bendix titanium)
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Crap! Our 1.6 engine no petrol subsidize? Crazy lar.. those CR-V Civic VW turbo small cc engine get subsidized petrol? That's unfair..
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 2 2018, 08:33 PM)
Crap! Our 1.6 engine no petrol subsidize? Crazy lar.. those CR-V Civic VW turbo small cc engine get subsidized petrol? That's unfair..
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Chill bro. 30 ringgit one month only. I keep telling myself that. LoL
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Weird sound from my intake now, sent to workshop this morning and the mechanic confirmed me that the unit need to be replace or repair. But he suggested me to look around the KV as the price in Melaka is pretty expensive. Even the china made also at rm500+.
wooo...
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Oct 11 2018, 03:01 PM)
What is your transmission.
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yes , it decrease abit then back to normal again... cry.gif
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 3 2018, 10:30 AM)
Weird sound from my intake now, sent to workshop this morning and the mechanic confirmed me that the unit need to be replace or repair. But he suggested me to look around the KV as the price in Melaka is pretty expensive. Even the china made also at rm500+.
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You might want to check with Zordaq see if they got kawan in Melaka knows how to fix IAFM. If your IAFM shaft not yet broken then still can repair punya.

Worst case is to visit their KL outlet for the fix. Zordaq JB charged me RM50 for the repair.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Nov 3 2018, 12:31 PM)
yes , it decrease abit then back to normal again...  cry.gif
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Not yet fix bro?
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 3 2018, 09:47 PM)
You might want to check with Zordaq see if they got kawan in Melaka knows how to fix IAFM. If your IAFM shaft not yet broken then still can repair punya.

Worst case is to visit their KL outlet for the fix. Zordaq JB charged me RM50 for the repair.
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I see thanks, I read a workshop in Melaka do provide the IAFM services, but they haven't reply my message yet. The shop name is Dori's btw.
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Not yet fix bro?
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Haven't send back to proton... Outstation now...
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I see thanks, I read a workshop in Melaka do provide the IAFM services, but they haven't reply my message yet. The shop name is Dori's btw.
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Do check on do they repair the valve or they remove it. Some workshop eliminate the noise by removing the valve, so you going to have no IAFM for your low RPM fuel savings. Zordaq's way of fixing is add a washer-like tube to stabilize IAFM shaft so it won't rattle.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Nov 4 2018, 08:29 AM)
Haven't send back to proton... Outstation now...
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My gut feeling is intermittently failed fuel pump. Just blind guessing. Have your technician check beyond electrical and intake controlling system?
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 4 2018, 01:32 PM)
Do check on do they repair the valve or they remove it. Some workshop eliminate the noise by removing the valve, so you going to have no IAFM for your low RPM fuel savings. Zordaq's way of fixing is add a washer-like tube to stabilize IAFM shaft so it won't rattle.
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the mechanic just replied to my msg just now, he confirmed that they will do mod/upgrade on the shaft component itself, removing the butterfly is not a good thing to do as it will effect the performance and fuel efficiency depending on the condition of the car. The price quoted is rm180, not very sure if the price labour charges included. But anyway, still cheaper than few workshop offer me around rm300 to up than rm500.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 4 2018, 02:03 PM)
the mechanic just replied to my msg just now, he confirmed that they will do mod/upgrade on the shaft component itself, removing the butterfly is not a good thing to do as it will effect the performance and fuel efficiency depending on the condition of the car. The price quoted is rm180, not very sure if the price labour charges included. But anyway, still cheaper than few workshop offer me around rm300 to up than rm500.
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their price increased it seems. few years back my friend's saga blm repaired by them, around RM80 that time.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 4 2018, 02:03 PM)
the mechanic just replied to my msg just now, he confirmed that they will do mod/upgrade on the shaft component itself, removing the butterfly is not a good thing to do as it will effect the performance and fuel efficiency depending on the condition of the car. The price quoted is rm180, not very sure if the price labour charges included. But anyway, still cheaper than few workshop offer me around rm300 to up than rm500.
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Ah I see.. thanks for the education!
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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 29 2018, 01:04 AM)
saw its leaking from the host..my damage was quite severe..i hv to changed the power steering motor as well..last month change compressor, this month power steering pump..after this need to replace the belt tensioner..haish too much edi..
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Bro, may i know how long you've had your belt tensioner?

Mine screeching early morning even thought it's just about 15,000 km long only. Zordaq used the CFE tensioner on mine citing the thicker shaft of CFE tensioner makes it more lasak.

Don't know is isolated case or not but i got a bit regret going for CFE tensioner.
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 6 2018, 03:45 PM)
The Coolant part, I still follow SC standard, using Proton and change every 20k. shouldn't be issue.
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just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.

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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM)
just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.
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mind to share how to know when drive shaft damaged?
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Sep 3 2018, 10:46 AM)
hi guys
last week i went to SC for engine oil change

than the mechanics said some oil leakage detected and came from engine top cover as per photos below and recommend to change the seal cam cover and oil filter cap for a new one.

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and they told me that brake pads almost left 10% for front and 30% for rear brake

for your info my persona sv from year 2014 edition

what do you think?

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common tear and wear parts on persona. replaced it twice on mine, but it's just easy to DIY. just need to take off the ignition coil and open a few bolts. release a couple of hose, and unplugged the co2 sensor. take off the old seal, clean the remaining old glue on the rocker cover with a scraper, install new seal and glue it a bit, and reverse the process. total cost would be less than rm50. latest im using the silicon seal. still remains to be seen whether it is better or worst than the common rubber seal.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 5 2018, 10:43 AM)
mind to share how to know when drive shaft damaged?
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mine damaged on the inner side. the one connected on the gearbox. on physical inspection, you'll notice there's freeplay on the driveshaft. but obviously, you'll only notice that if you uninstall it from your car.
while driving, you'll notice your car shake when you push your car torquey2 a bit. ha ha. or, like mine, on 100kmh, my left side of my car will vibrate like hell. even the front passenger seat is vibrating. sweat.gif

normally, if you hears that tak tak tak sound during cornering, usually it's the cv joint.
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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:55 AM)
mine damaged on the inner side. the one connected on the gearbox. on physical inspection, you'll notice there's freeplay on the driveshaft. but obviously, you'll only notice that if you uninstall it from your car.
while driving, you'll notice your car shake when you push your car torquey2 a bit. ha ha. or, like mine, on 100kmh, my left side of my car will vibrate like hell. even the front passenger seat is vibrating. sweat.gif

normally, if you hears that tak tak tak sound during cornering, usually it's the cv joint.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 5 2018, 10:51 AM)
Bro, may i know how long you've had your belt tensioner?

Mine screeching early morning even thought it's just about 15,000 km long only. Zordaq used the CFE tensioner on mine citing the thicker shaft of CFE tensioner makes it more lasak.

Don't know is isolated case or not but i got a bit regret going for CFE tensioner.
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i cant remember but it could be around 35k - 40k km..i think i changed it every time i change my timing belt..
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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM)
just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.
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How much it cosst for each of them?
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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM)
just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.
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Thanks for sharing.

How about Power Steering oil? Have you change it?
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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 5 2018, 07:40 PM)
i cant remember but it could be around 35k - 40k km..i think i changed it every time i change my timing belt..
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My previous tensioner also start giving noise around that mileage. But still can last until 80k km and change with timing belt.
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Thanks for sharing.

How about Power Steering oil? Have you change it?
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Nope. After 7 years, i just top up, a bit, once.
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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 5 2018, 06:40 PM)
i cant remember but it could be around 35k - 40k km..i think i changed it every time i change my timing belt..
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Wow..IMO no need lah bro. If it's not wobbly, why change it. Mine still holding up well. 190k and counting. Stock kilang parts are the best!

And, if it's broken, easy to replace. Got nothing to do with the timing belt installation at all.
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How much it cosst for each of them?
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Drive shaft is 160. Install rm30.
Sensor and rear abs, i cant remember. I guess it's less than rm200 for each. Just get it from your local spare parts shop, much cheaper than getting them from automobile workshops.
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Nope. After 7 years, i just top up, a bit, once.
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Ya, I think if the color and quantity still okay no need to change it.  laugh.gif
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i'll always go with the saying,"do not fix what is not broken" biggrin.gif
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Drive shaft is 160. Install rm30.
Sensor and rear abs, i cant remember. I guess it's less than rm200 for each. Just get it from your local spare parts shop, much cheaper than getting them from automobile workshops.
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This is for the SV 4 disk brakes version am I correct?
The don't have rear disk brake if conversion, how much u got any idea, bro?
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is it normal for you guys to top-up for water like every 3 weeks?

I usually know when my fan continues to spin after I turn off my car, surprisingly my car temperature still always normal though
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This is for the SV 4 disk brakes version am I correct?
The don't have rear disk brake if conversion, how much u got any idea, bro?
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Im using stock rear disc brake bro. H line. What i meant with sensor is the crankshaft sensor. Was replying to previous questions from one the bros here.
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is it normal for you guys to top-up for water like every 3 weeks?

I usually know when my fan continues to spin after I turn off my car, surprisingly my car temperature still always normal though
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That's not normal IMO. Try check for leakages as well. Your temp still normal because the remaining coolant still can support. Once it is insufficient, even your a/c will not feel cold. Temp will shoot up especially during idling.
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Done with fixing the IAFM this afternoon, the mechanic gave some brief explanation about the sound. In my case I have the taktak and another is rattle sound. The culprit is the valve that hold the IAFM shaft inside. Modification done with the valve without removing the whole intake. Now I feel so relieve, no more sewing machine and rat sound from there.
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bought a voltmeter which can plug into the car cigarette lighter socket to measure the car battery voltage.

the measurement indicate 12.0V when engine is off. Once start engine, it jump to 14.1V.

May I know what is the normal voltage range for persona battery?





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Im using stock rear disc brake bro. H line. What i meant with sensor is the crankshaft sensor. Was replying to previous questions from one the bros here.
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Done with fixing the IAFM this afternoon, the mechanic gave some brief explanation about the sound. In my case I have the taktak and another is rattle sound. The culprit is the valve that hold the IAFM shaft inside. Modification done with the valve without removing the whole intake. Now I feel so relieve, no more sewing machine and rat sound from there.
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Workshop location where?
I also headache on the sound bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Nov 11 2018, 12:46 AM)
Workshop location where?
I also headache on the sound  bangwall.gif
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Melaka here bro, It took a month for me to find good workshop by gather some feedback from their happy customers especially about this iafm intake. The job took less than 30 mins. No more the sound of old diesel Mercedes taxi now.
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QUOTE(propusers @ Nov 11 2018, 12:04 AM)
bought a voltmeter which can plug into the car cigarette lighter socket to measure the car battery voltage.

the measurement indicate 12.0V when engine is off. Once start engine, it jump to 14.1V.

May I know what is the normal voltage range for persona battery?
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I bought one from lazada that has volt meter and usb charger at one. It displays the amp as well. During engine off the volt is around 12.2 and when engine running I am getting a oit 14.2 or more a little bit.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 11 2018, 01:29 AM)
I bought one from lazada that has volt meter and usb charger at one. It displays the amp as well. During engine off the volt is around 12.2 and when engine running I am getting a oit 14.2 or more a little bit.
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my car battery is 1 year 7 months at the moment. last time my battery went flat without any sign after 1.5 years.

so I need to monitor the voltage now every week

i am not sure what is the minimum voltage should we change the battery?

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QUOTE(propusers @ Nov 11 2018, 02:35 AM)
my car battery is 1 year 7 months at the moment. last time my battery went flat without any sign after 1.5 years.

so I need to monitor the voltage now every week

i am not sure what is the minimum voltage should we change the battery?
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Hard to tell by looking on voltage, i think bare minimum without engine running shall be 12.0V.
to get accurate you need to run load test to see its CCA, if less than certain CCA (can't remember 200 or 250CCA) time to change i think.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 10 2018, 01:11 PM)
Done with fixing the IAFM this afternoon, the mechanic gave some brief explanation about the sound. In my case I have the taktak and another is rattle sound. The culprit is the valve that hold the IAFM shaft inside. Modification done with the valve without removing the whole intake. Now I feel so relieve, no more sewing machine and rat sound from there.
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Cheers bro! Happy for you! Once the noise settle you got the new car feel again! 😋
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can you guys show me which part you guys already changed or modified on your persona ??

Planing to do 1st modify on my persona elegance lol.gif lol.gif
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QUOTE(lokyewweng @ Nov 11 2018, 09:17 PM)
can you guys show me which part  you guys already changed or modified on your persona ??

Planing to do 1st modify on my persona elegance  lol.gif  lol.gif
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What modification are you planning to do? I am all basic here, nothing much as long still in good condition to drive my family safe and sound.
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QUOTE(lokyewweng @ Nov 11 2018, 09:17 PM)
can you guys show me which part  you guys already changed or modified on your persona ??

Planing to do 1st modify on my persona elegance  lol.gif  lol.gif
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is changing stock rims to sport rims, upsize tyre size to 1 inch, changing stock shock-absorber to after-market version consider as modification?
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can you guys show me which part  you guys already changed or modified on your persona ??

Planing to do 1st modify on my persona elegance  :lol2:  :lol2:
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Same with powerwoot bro. Pretty much stock. Except UR front and rear bar, and an oil catch can. Want to hold this baby as long as it can.
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Normal diy, peeled the old yellow layer of fog lamp and making it clear as normal headlamp. Much brighter now especially for the short distance of around 10' in front of the bumper. Last year changed tyres to 195, 55, 15, Looking a bit lowered and sporty, nice handling too.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 11 2018, 01:26 AM)
Melaka here bro, It took a month for me to find good workshop by gather some feedback from their happy customers especially about this iafm intake. The job took less than 30 mins. No more the sound of old diesel Mercedes taxi now.
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Hmm, I thought if in KL here, I need to fix mine too.
Too bad, it's way to far for me bye.gif
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Nov 13 2018, 11:41 AM)
Hmm, I thought if in KL here, I need to fix mine too.
Too bad, it's way to far for me  bye.gif
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Try to search for Zordaq, it's in KV. Heard they are doing the same too but much cheaper.

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 12 2018, 04:02 PM)
Normal diy, peeled the old yellow layer of fog lamp and making it clear as normal headlamp. Much brighter now especially for the short distance of around 10' in front of the bumper. Last year changed tyres to 195, 55, 15, Looking a bit lowered and sporty, nice handling too.
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I have changed to r3 sport spring with ori suspension. Lowered and still comfortable
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What modification are you planning to do? I am all basic here, nothing much as long still in good condition to drive my family safe and sound.
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ermm... i plan to upgrade absorber, head lights, get an android head unit hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lokyewweng @ Nov 13 2018, 09:30 PM)
ermm... i plan to upgrade absorber, head lights, get an android head unit  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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sounds good, for the android hud how much is the cost? for the last time I am interested to have the rear reverse camera as I am having neck stiff to turn my head during reversing especially at some narrow slot. Already asked the shop, getting unknown china brand, hud taking 2 din size including the camera will cost me rm600+.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 13 2018, 12:16 PM)
Try to search for Zordaq, it's in KV. Heard they are doing the same too but much cheaper.
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Ya, I heard that too.
Just no time to go visit there yet. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Nov 14 2018, 03:57 PM)
Ya, I heard that too.
Just no time to go visit there yet.  cool2.gif
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aiyoo.. for sure if for a day off to fixed the iafm you'll feel hearing a new engine after that. Really worth it as the process won't take long, for mine less than 30 mins.
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Anyone tried the full set of Tokico absorber + coil spring + absorber mounting? Saw mudah a few ad selling.

But I doubt why suddenly Tokico manufacture for Proton? All this while they focusing Japanese car only...
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Few things to do to next to make it my car youthful, change the top gasket cover to silicone type, this is highly recommend by my mechanic over the original proton rubber type. Another budget keras would be front tyres to the good year triplemax to replace my current rovelo.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 13 2018, 09:57 PM)
sounds good, for the android hud how much is the cost? for the last time I am interested to have the rear reverse camera as I am having neck stiff to turn my head during reversing especially at some narrow slot. Already asked the shop, getting unknown china brand, hud taking 2 din size including the camera will cost me rm600+.
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for me install android unit not worthy as our persona radio spot is too low to look as we drive. better u look for rear view with back reverse camera as exora.
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QUOTE(kausar @ Nov 16 2018, 11:54 AM)
for me install android unit not worthy as our persona radio spot is too low to look as we drive. better u look for rear view with back reverse camera as exora.
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I see, I was thinking to go for android due to GPS functionality esp for goople map and waze, together with the reverse view feature. I do agree with you, the sight view HU of persona is more towards to center of the car, unless the screen can be tilt to the driver side a lil bit, buy it is hell ugly I believe.
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QUOTE(kausar @ Nov 16 2018, 11:54 AM)
for me install android unit not worthy as our persona radio spot is too low to look as we drive. better u look for rear view with back reverse camera as exora.
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I also feels the original position is too low for reverse camera shocking.gif
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Yesterday I tried to see the HU 2 din android inside the persona, but not bad at all especially the reverse view function.
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Done projector few days ago.. Can see much btr at night now.

Total dmg 748
Projector 488
D2 hid bulb 180
Polish headlamp 80

Totally worth the money.


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Hi, i have problem with my new persona. There's droplet of water come out when i switch on aircond at level 2. And my aircond seems not so cool anymore. Anyone facing same issue?
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Hi, i have problem with my new persona. There's droplet of water come out when i switch on aircond at level 2. And my aircond seems not so cool anymore. Anyone facing same issue?
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you're in wrong forum... this is legacy persona based on gen2 platform thread. ph34r.gif
can't help much as parts/design are different btw.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Nov 20 2018, 10:38 AM)
Done projector few days ago.. Can see much btr at night now.

Total dmg 748
Projector 488
D2 hid bulb 180
Polish headlamp 80

Totally worth the money.
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isn't that the beam focusing is very high?
with that distance, i think default beam height would be the lowest line?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 20 2018, 03:57 PM)
isn't that the beam focusing is very high?
with that distance, i think default beam height would be the lowest line?
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Not really high... Just right when I follow behind other car... Used to be super high till I can see the interior of a exora when following behind.. Now adjusted back. More proper and won't blind ppl as the color is not 6000k. Using 5500k abit yellow n white. Nt as white as in pic


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Not really high... Just right when I follow behind other car... Used to be super high till I can see the interior of a exora when following behind.. Now adjusted back. More proper and won't blind ppl as the color is not 6000k. Using 5500k abit yellow n white. Nt as white as in pic
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Yeah, this photo looks ok as the beam below number plate.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 20 2018, 06:58 PM)
Yeah, this photo looks ok as the beam below number plate.
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Hopefully won't get caught during road block..
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Nov 20 2018, 06:09 PM)
Not really high... Just right when I follow behind other car... Used to be super high till I can see the interior of a exora when following behind.. Now adjusted back. More proper and won't blind ppl as the color is not 6000k. Using 5500k abit yellow n white. Nt as white as in pic
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Wow that's really nice... Clear yet not blinding.... Will add HID into my wishlist!
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Hopefully won't get caught during road block..
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Our beloved minister spoke yesterday on this subject matter:
https://www.worldofbuzz.com/drivers-who-use...DYdJ_Jk8MYBvjY8
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 21 2018, 07:04 AM)
Wow that's really nice... Clear yet not blinding.... Will add HID into my wishlist!
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Yup.. So far no1 from opposite road high beam me bek.. So it's OK. Even if I stand infront my car directly, its nt painful to eyes.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 21 2018, 09:56 AM)
Our beloved minister spoke yesterday on this subject matter:
https://www.worldofbuzz.com/drivers-who-use...DYdJ_Jk8MYBvjY8
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Yeah kinda sad.. But then again, stock headlamp can't see far which is very dangerous to me.. Imo, They should fined those that is glaring to other driver on road becuz it's dangerous for others.. Not fined all illegal fitted hid but with proper heigh adjustment and won't be glaring to other people...

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just now changed radiator motor fan for RM260 (Denso) with installation..is the price reasonable?

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just now changed radiator motor fan for RM260 (Denso) with installation..is the price reasonable?
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I changed both of mine at RM530... Think yours is ok. Some more Denso.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Nov 20 2018, 10:38 AM)
Done projector few days ago.. Can see much btr at night now.

Total dmg 748
Projector 488
D2 hid bulb 180
Polish headlamp 80

Totally worth the money.
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May i know where is the shop and do they perform any headlight/lens cover restoration?
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I changed both of mine at RM530... Think yours is ok. Some more Denso.
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Y both?  :confused:
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My aircond guy friend said the life span of both motor is more or less the same. Do if one spoil already, he'll recommend owner to change one shot both to avoid near future problem for long distance driver like me. I clock about 5000km every one and half month.
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Just waze power wave accessories. Its located in klang. Yes they do provide headlamp cover restoration. They charged me for rm 80 both side

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22/11/2018 1130pm

Operation roadblock - Targeted at illegally modified HID lamp which are glaring.

Venue: Kota Damansara. Towards IKEA area. Before turning to Palm Spring condo. Opposite Shell.

Situation: very jam. All white lights (headlamp/fog lamp) car will get stopped no matter what. Stopped u at roadside first then only check lights. Motor and cars all kena. Have around 7-8 police. Some holding SMG.

My car installed HID 5500K with projectors seems to be okay. They blocked me and check my lamp by standing directly infront my lamp and they let me thru. Those installed hid without projector and causing problem in other driver are more likely to be fined.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 21 2018, 06:32 PM)
My aircond guy friend said the life span of both motor is more or less the same. Do if one spoil already, he'll recommend owner to change one shot both to avoid near future problem for long distance driver like me. I clock about 5000km every one and half month.
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Huh, really heavy duty man~ hmm.gif
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KLIMS 2018
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 21 2018, 09:56 AM)
Our beloved minister spoke yesterday on this subject matter:
https://www.worldofbuzz.com/drivers-who-use...DYdJ_Jk8MYBvjY8
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Nowaday with yellowish road lamp and rainy day LED really a need. mad.gif
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My car got beep sound when i remove key and stop when i closed door.not alarm sound becouse beep sound come from dashboard.what the problem?beep sound stop when i start engine or closed door.
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QUOTE(peja5081 @ Dec 4 2018, 04:09 PM)
My car got beep sound when i remove key and stop when i closed door.not alarm sound becouse beep sound come from dashboard.what the problem?beep sound stop when i start engine or closed door.
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Long lasting beep is light not turned off.
Beep beep beep is key still left inside.

For my car i think the key hole wear and wear already, sometimes when i take out key already it thought key still inside and beeped.

Guess need to change the keylock set only can settle.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Dec 4 2018, 07:13 PM)
Long lasting beep is light not turned off.
Beep beep beep is key still left inside.

For my car i think the key hole wear and wear already, sometimes when i take out key already it thought key still inside and beeped.

Guess need to change the keylock set only can settle.
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just check for any leakage .
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First time changing my engine oil to Shell helix 15-50 (high mileage), my car mileage is 244,000km
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Hi guys,

Had my alignment + balancing done today.

Mechanic said my front left hand side DRIVE SHAFT INNER BOOT COVER koyak already

Was rushing for work so didn't have time to order and do

Online lazada selling for RM20:
https://www.lazada.com.my/-i336374074-s4682...lFlag=true&mp=1

Is it critical to change? and does it affect ride and handling?

Because if I were to change it, need to re-do alignment and balancing again ($$$ and time)

since its not the outer drive shaft or the entire set. It's just the inner one side koyak

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First time changing my engine oil to Shell helix 15-50 (high mileage), my car mileage is 244,000km
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How’s it? Smooth engine ? Low noise level? How about the power?
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How’s it? Smooth engine ? Low noise level? How about the power?
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havent change yet..
Now my car at workshop due to engine overheated..need to change the head gasket sad.gif sad.gif
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havent change yet..
Now my car at workshop due to engine overheated..need to change the head gasket  sad.gif  sad.gif
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Head gasket seal? I didnt know that thing problem can cause overheat.
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Head gasket seal? I didnt know that thing problem can cause overheat.
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his car overheat until max temp causing blown head gasket.
in other word, overheat causing the head gasket blown.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 17 2018, 09:59 AM)
his car overheat until max temp causing blown head gasket.
in other word, overheat causing the head gasket blown.
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oohhh I see. OMG , maybe his car got other underlying problems also, that causing the overheating. Spoilt radiator, water pump etc etc
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 17 2018, 09:59 AM)
his car overheat until max temp causing blown head gasket.
in other word, overheat causing the head gasket blown.
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Yes, this is the problem.
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First time changing my engine oil to Shell helix 15-50 (high mileage), my car mileage is 244,000km
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Your car got consume engine oil or not? If not you use xW50 "grease" oil will make the already slow accelerating campro engine become lorry alike acceleration.
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Your car got consume engine oil or not? If not you use xW50 "grease" oil will make the already slow accelerating campro engine become lorry alike acceleration.
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Not consume engine oil actually. Really so big affect compare 40W and 50W?
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guys...really need your help here.

my persona elegance...today morning wanted to drive to work...when open door find some strong smell inside car.

then found out got water leaking/ stagnant at the carpet.

took out the rubber mat...oh boy the mat was pretty wet with water dripping.

the worst is the driver side and the back of driver side.
the carpet floor for both driver and rear driver is really wet.

the passenger and rear passenger side carpet floor is also wet but not as bad as the driver's side.


anyone here got any idea what is the cause?

is it the door rubber sealant or the plastic water shield behind the door panel?

or is it the undercarriage?

anyone can help me out here?

if one place wet i'm ok...but to have all 4 carpet wet at the same time...i'm really confused right now? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(J Camp @ Dec 18 2018, 09:29 PM)
guys...really need your help here.

my persona elegance...today morning wanted to drive to work...when open door find some strong smell inside car.

then found out got water leaking/ stagnant at the carpet.

took out the rubber mat...oh boy the mat was pretty wet with water dripping.

the worst is the driver side and the back of driver side.
the carpet floor for both driver and rear driver is really wet.

the passenger and rear passenger side  carpet floor is also wet but not as bad as the driver's side.
anyone here got any idea what is the cause?

is it the door rubber sealant or the plastic water shield behind the door panel?

or is it the undercarriage?

anyone can help me out here?

if one place wet i'm ok...but to have all 4 carpet wet at the same time...i'm really confused right now?  rclxub.gif
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open door panel then spray water see if water leak from plastic weather sheet area, very very common there...
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QUOTE(J Camp @ Dec 18 2018, 09:29 PM)
guys...really need your help here.

my persona elegance...today morning wanted to drive to work...when open door find some strong smell inside car.

then found out got water leaking/ stagnant at the carpet.

took out the rubber mat...oh boy the mat was pretty wet with water dripping.

the worst is the driver side and the back of driver side.
the carpet floor for both driver and rear driver is really wet.

the passenger and rear passenger side  carpet floor is also wet but not as bad as the driver's side.
anyone here got any idea what is the cause?

is it the door rubber sealant or the plastic water shield behind the door panel?

or is it the undercarriage?

anyone can help me out here?

if one place wet i'm ok...but to have all 4 carpet wet at the same time...i'm really confused right now?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 19 2018, 09:52 AM)
open door panel then spray water see if water leak from plastic weather sheet area, very very common there...
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Agree with Voscar. But if you're not used to open up door panel and fix it, you can bring your car to your trusted mudguard shop and ask them check for you. Huge leak like yours should be easy to catch.
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QUOTE(J Camp @ Dec 18 2018, 09:29 PM)
guys...really need your help here.

my persona elegance...today morning wanted to drive to work...when open door find some strong smell inside car.

then found out got water leaking/ stagnant at the carpet.

took out the rubber mat...oh boy the mat was pretty wet with water dripping.

the worst is the driver side and the back of driver side.
the carpet floor for both driver and rear driver is really wet.

the passenger and rear passenger side  carpet floor is also wet but not as bad as the driver's side.
anyone here got any idea what is the cause?

is it the door rubber sealant or the plastic water shield behind the door panel?

or is it the undercarriage?

anyone can help me out here?

if one place wet i'm ok...but to have all 4 carpet wet at the same time...i'm really confused right now?  rclxub.gif
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3562069/all

persona case usually because of the water door sheet problem. (logic 4 side all wet carpet case)

btw, my proton saga water leaking case is because of clogged cowl drain.

or could be air vent problem, aircond leaking problem etc. (logic if leak at front passenger side)



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QUOTE(leonghan @ Dec 18 2018, 09:41 AM)
Not consume engine oil actually. Really so big affect compare 40W and 50W?
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yes. *W50 is thicker oil than *W40. so have diff in acceleration.
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Can change back to 40W for next service?
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QUOTE(leonghan @ Dec 22 2018, 08:40 PM)
Can change back to 40W xW40 for next service?
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Currently I'm driving 1st gen Persona
My current XM2 is dying soon. I'm looking for replacement. I'm quite an aggressive cornering/fast driver. I'm looking for something better like ps3 but this tyre doesn't have my size. Any other recommendation?

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Post #1
Hi guys,

Currently I'm driving 1st gen Persona
My current XM2 is dying soon. I'm looking for replacement. I'm quite an aggressive cornering/fast driver. I'm looking for something better like ps3 but this tyre doesn't have my size. Any other recommendation?
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Saw that day Assurance Triplemax 2 launched. Might want to give it a try? Don't know on the performance part though.
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can.
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 23 2018, 02:23 PM)
Post #1
Hi guys,

Currently I'm driving 1st gen Persona
My current XM2 is dying soon. I'm looking for replacement. I'm quite an aggressive cornering/fast driver. I'm looking for something better like ps3 but this tyre doesn't have my size. Any other recommendation?
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What size do you use, I have tried Potenza Re002, Re003 and now using Conti MC6. All of these tyres have good grip for cornering, IMHO just the Potenza is noisy.
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can feel the acceleration abit slow..
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Does the FC affected?
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What size do you use, I have tried Potenza Re002, Re003 and now using Conti MC6. All of these tyres have good grip for cornering, IMHO just the Potenza is noisy.
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Does the FC affected?
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QUOTE(ask_dino @ Dec 24 2018, 09:24 AM)
What size do you use, I have tried Potenza Re002, Re003 and now using Conti MC6. All of these tyres have good grip for cornering, IMHO just the Potenza is noisy.
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im using stock size 195/60 R15
dont think i wanna change rim anytime soon, i'll stick with R15
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Dec 19 2018, 10:44 AM)
Agree with Voscar. But if you're not used to open up door panel and fix it, you can bring your car to your trusted mudguard shop and ask them check for you. Huge leak like yours should be easy to catch.
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thanks vos and inferno.

got it fix.

yup, its the plastic sheet behind the door panel.

they just sealed back the plastic sheet. no changing any parts.

but i'm quite surprise that all 4 plastic sheet giving problems at the same time.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 20 2018, 11:38 AM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3562069/all

persona case usually because of the water door sheet problem. (logic 4 side all wet carpet case)

btw, my proton saga water leaking case is because of clogged cowl drain.

or could be air vent problem, aircond leaking problem etc. (logic if leak at front passenger side)
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yup door sheet problem same as your link.
mechanic also check to see if aircon is leaking.

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im using stock size 195/60 R15
dont think i wanna change rim anytime soon, i'll stick with R15
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Agreed.
Me also stick to it since now it's the most affordable choice. whistling.gif

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Anyone know where can I fix this part?

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Search for this on shopee
Proton Persona handbrake cover.

Or think can get it in proton parts centre PW844476

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Has anyone of u changed before the seat belt ? Mine only 4 years , the driver side seat belt a bit spoilt starting to spoil already
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I am finding that my aircond under the dash started to leak, is it easy to check the drain, I mean how hard to open and get to see the drain?
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Has anyone of u changed before the seat belt ? Mine only 4 years , the driver side seat belt a bit spoilt starting to spoil already
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I would like to know about this too. My seat belt is very much damaged.


QUOTE(powerwoot @ Dec 28 2018, 09:07 PM)
I am finding that my aircond under the dash started to leak, is it easy to check the drain, I mean how hard to open and get to see the drain?
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Not hard but need to Jack up the car to see if the drain pipe blocked or not.
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What is the suitable grade oil for persona ? current mileage is 60k , using 10w40 semi synthetic now ... Plan to change to fully synthetic , is it worth ? Since i travel highways alot , is it better to use 10w40 although it's semi synthetic ? Since the car will be used to travel long distance most of the time, will 5w40 and 10w40 offer the same level of protection when the engine is hot ?
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 5 2019, 10:22 PM)
What is the suitable grade oil for persona ? current mileage is 60k , using 10w40 semi synthetic now ... Plan to change to fully synthetic , is it worth ? Since i travel highways alot , is it better to use 10w40 although it's semi synthetic ? Since the car will be used to travel long distance most of the time, will 5w40 and 10w40 offer the same level of protection when the engine is hot ?
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Ya the car manual recommends 10W40. Depends on your pocket, if u can afford fully synthetic why not? Im using tesco fully synthetic 5W40, RM80-90 during offer. I think both of them can protect your engine when its hot, just that for fully synthetic, the chemicals inside can last longer compared to fully mineral or semi synthetic.



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Has anyone of u changed before the seat belt ? Mine only 4 years , the driver side seat belt a bit spoilt starting to spoil already
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Seat belt will spoilt?

How's the condition looks like? confused.gif
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What is the suitable grade oil for persona ? current mileage is 60k , using 10w40 semi synthetic now ... Plan to change to fully synthetic , is it worth ? Since i travel highways alot , is it better to use 10w40 although it's semi synthetic ? Since the car will be used to travel long distance most of the time, will 5w40 and 10w40 offer the same level of protection when the engine is hot ?
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been using 10-40 for few years now, so far so good, of course 10-30 the engine will be lighter
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Seat belt will spoilt?

How's the condition looks like?  :confused:
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Like this lo..

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Huh... ohmy.gif

Mine one still like new...after around 8 years~ cool2.gif
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Huh... ohmy.gif

Mine one still like new...after around 8 years~ cool2.gif
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Mine also like that , 170k km mileage , 4 years car. Ur mileage ?
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Mine also like that , 170k km mileage , 4 years car. Ur mileage ?
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wow , same as mine , mine also 4 yrs car, but mileage is 60k now icon_idea.gif
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been using 10-40 for few years now, so far so good, of course 10-30 the engine will be lighter
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is 10w40 more suitable for my car ? since i am travelling highway using this car quite often... but there's not much choice of 10w40 fully synthetic EO in the market. Currently using LM 10w40 semi.
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wow , same as mine , mine also 4 yrs car, but mileage is 60k now  icon_idea.gif
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Persona Sv? Lol we used the car more than you that’s why ours wore out first.
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is 10w40 more suitable for my car ? since i am travelling highway using this car quite often... but there's not much choice of 10w40 fully synthetic EO in the market. Currently using LM 10w40 semi.
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If u read the car manual , they recommend us to use 10w40. I tried before 10w30 , my engine dam noisy. Nowadays I use 5w40 fully synthetic, smooth and quiet engine.
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If u read the car manual , they recommend us to use 10w40. I tried before 10w30 , my engine dam noisy. Nowadays I use 5w40 fully synthetic, smooth and quiet engine.
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5w40 suitable ya ? haha . quite hard to get 10w40 fully synthetic confused.gif
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5w40 suitable ya ? haha . quite hard to get 10w40 fully synthetic :confused:
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I don’t think there is any 10w40 fully synthetic on the market. Of course 5w40 is suitable , 40 is the viscosity , 5 is the temperature indicator.
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I don’t think there is any 10w40 fully synthetic on the market. Of course 5w40 is suitable , 40 is the viscosity , 5 is the temperature indicator.
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yes , i found one lately , LM 10w40 molygen... rclxms.gif The 5 means the viscosity under low temp, right ? Since i'm travelling on highway most of the time using this car, so it shouldnt be any problem if i am using 5w40 , right ?Since the engine will be hot most of the time...5w40 and 10w40 should gv the same protection , right ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 9 2019, 08:21 AM)
yes , i found one lately , LM 10w40 molygen...  rclxms.gif The 5 means the viscosity under low temp, right ? Since i'm travelling on highway most of the time using this car, so it shouldnt be any problem if i am using 5w40 , right ?Since the engine will be hot most of the time...5w40 and 10w40 should gv the same protection , right ?  hmm.gif
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We are living in a tropical country, our temperature won’t be lower than 10. So the front number doesn’t matter to us. Be it 0,5,10 or 15.
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Mine also like that , 170k km mileage , 4 years car. Ur mileage ?
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8 years car, 341,018km and clocking. XD

QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 9 2019, 08:21 AM)
yes , i found one lately , LM 10w40 molygen...  rclxms.gif The 5 means the viscosity under low temp, right ? Since i'm travelling on highway most of the time using this car, so it shouldnt be any problem if i am using 5w40 , right ?Since the engine will be hot most of the time...5w40 and 10w40 should gv the same protection , right ?  hmm.gif
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The W in viscosity rating means winter. So it doesn't really matter to us in Malaysia. On the side note, IMHO the difference of fully vs semi for our car is the durability of oil base, as in resistance to deterioration. I use semi only because Proton once told me their oil filter is designed to change every 5,000km. So if i use fully, i still need to change oil filter every 5,000km and top up a bit of the oil lost during filter change. I guess there's no hard rule of what oil we use. Just we need to check on other parts that involve in engine oil function.
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8 years car, 341,018km and clocking. XD
The W in viscosity rating means winter. So it doesn't really matter to us in Malaysia. On the side note, IMHO the difference of fully vs semi for our car is the durability of oil base, as in resistance to deterioration. I use semi only because Proton once told me their oil filter is designed to change every 5,000km. So if i use fully, i still need to change oil filter every 5,000km and top up a bit of the oil lost during filter change. I guess there's no hard rule of what oil we use. Just we need to check on other parts that involve in engine oil function.
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But the car manual say otherwise, engine oil can be change after 10k mileage.
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- Clutch Set
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But the car manual say otherwise, engine oil can be change after 10k mileage.
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if u use fully syn, then can go 10k,
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Mine also like that , 170k km mileage , 4 years car. Ur mileage ?
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Around 167K icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 9 2019, 11:00 AM)
8 years car, 341,018km and clocking. XD
The W in viscosity rating means winter. So it doesn't really matter to us in Malaysia. On the side note, IMHO the difference of fully vs semi for our car is the durability of oil base, as in resistance to deterioration. I use semi only because Proton once told me their oil filter is designed to change every 5,000km. So if i use fully, i still need to change oil filter every 5,000km and top up a bit of the oil lost during filter change. I guess there's no hard rule of what oil we use. Just we need to check on other parts that involve in engine oil function.
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ok , can you suggest some good oil filter that can last up to 10000km ? i am goin to use for fully synthetic oil flex.gif
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jan 9 2019, 11:07 AM)
But the car manual say otherwise, engine oil can be change after 10k mileage.
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Probably my PE 2011 not updated. I have checked both my manual and service booklet.

Owners manual only specify grade of engine oils recommended:

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Service booklet, however are more vague on service schedule:

First, they give recommendation of 10,000km service intervals:

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Then, they did not attach any fine print that's indicated by the asterisk icon. Which lead us to severe usage service schedule, with Proton reserving the rights to alter service schedule as they wish:

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Then they explicitly recommended 5,000 service interval for harsh driving usage:

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By the way, delsoo bro. Found a diagram in user manual that you might want to consider to use back 10w40 oils.

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 9 2019, 05:45 PM)
ok , can you suggest some good oil filter that can last up to 10000km ? i am goin to use for fully synthetic oil  flex.gif
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Seriously bro, I don't know. Been changing oil more or less 5k km since i got my car. But in real life a lot people don't care two hoots about the original filter 5k or 10k life when they use fully synthetic. I baby my car since I'm high mileage clocker. But at the end of the life of our car this might not make any difference kut...

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 9 2019, 06:49 PM)
Probably my PE 2011 not updated. I have checked both my manual and service booklet.

Owners manual only specify grade of engine oils recommended:

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Service booklet, however are more vague on service schedule:

First, they give recommendation of 10,000km service intervals:

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Then, they did not attach any fine print that's indicated by the asterisk icon. Which lead us to severe usage service schedule, with Proton reserving the rights to alter service schedule as they wish:

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Then they explicitly recommended 5,000 service interval for harsh driving usage:

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By the way, delsoo bro. Found a diagram in user manual that you might want to consider to use back 10w40 oils.

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Bro, I dont really understand the diagram , can you explain please? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 9 2019, 06:53 PM)
Bro, I dont really understand the diagram , can you explain please?  sweat.gif
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Think that is the functioning temperature of each grade of engine oils. If you use 5w40 oils, according to the manual it's not going to work fine with atmospheric temperature of above 20°C, which i personally have not tried and my gut feeling doesn't trust it.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 9 2019, 06:57 PM)
Think that is the functioning temperature of each grade of engine oils. If you use 5w40 oils, according to the manual it's not going to work fine with atmospheric temperature of above 20°C, which i personally have not tried and my gut feeling doesn't trust it.
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ok, then . I will stick back to 10w40 haha bruce.gif
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is there a need for power steering fluid change or flush ? how much is the price ya at proton sc ?
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QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 9 2019, 04:12 PM)
Going to change my car clutch whole set, being charge rm1400 for all. My clutch set never change before from day 1 2010 i get my car.

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How much mileage clocked? Wanna estimate my clutch life
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How much mileage clocked? Wanna estimate my clutch life
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Around 260k mileage 😂
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QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 11 2019, 07:09 AM)
Around 260k mileage 😂
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Wow ori clutch and pump can tahan that much?. I just passed 80k. Seem like a long way to go.
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Wow ori clutch and pump can tahan that much?. I just passed 80k. Seem like a long way to go.
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Hi Guys, this will be my last post in this group as I have to say goodbye to my persona. Unfortunately my wife met an accident last Nov and the insurance has decided to pay the insured amount. Bye and see you on the other side.
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Hi Guys, this will be my last post in this group as I have to say goodbye to my persona. Unfortunately my wife met an accident last Nov and the insurance has decided to pay the insured amount. Bye and see you on the other side.
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Wow hope everything is all right
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Wow hope everything is all right
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was supposed to be my last post but here i go..


Thanks bro. She is fine. Some motorcycle cut to her lane so she avoided it but she lost control and went through the middle divider. Miraculously she only suffered minor arm bruises but the car was on it's side when she gained consciousness. She also hit the signage with smashed to the windscreen. luckily it was tinted to it didn't shatter.
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was supposed to be my last post but here i go..
Thanks bro. She is fine. Some motorcycle cut to her lane so she avoided it but she lost control and went through the middle divider. Miraculously she only suffered minor arm bruises but the car was on it's side when she gained consciousness. She also hit the signage with smashed to the windscreen. luckily it was tinted to it didn't shatter.
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QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 9 2019, 04:12 PM)
Going to change my car clutch whole set, being charge rm1400 for all. My clutch set never change before from day 1 2010 i get my car.

- Clutch Set
- Flywheel oil seal
- Clutch Fork
- Clutch Fork Joint
- Clutch Pump Upper
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i wan to ask how do u change the clutch?
need to dismantle the engine or just change the clutch below the car engine bay?
as i know change clutch need to remove whole engine
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QUOTE(tallrice @ Jan 11 2019, 04:48 PM)
i wan to ask how do u change the clutch?
need to dismantle the engine or just change the clutch below the car engine bay?
as i know change clutch need to remove whole engine
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No need remove the whole engine, just allocate the gearbox and do the changes from there.
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QUOTE(neochaser5 @ Jan 11 2019, 12:08 PM)
Hi Guys, this will be my last post in this group as I have to say goodbye to my persona. Unfortunately my wife met an accident last Nov and the insurance has decided to pay the insured amount. Bye and see you on the other side.
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feel sad for u bro...
sad to see another persona lost...
but hope ur wife is fine... take care
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QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 11 2019, 04:53 PM)
No need remove the whole engine, just allocate the gearbox and do the changes from there.
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so after replacement does ur car feel different?
when u release the clutch will the engine shake?
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so after replacement does ur car feel different?
when u release the clutch will the engine shake?
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My car still in workshop since yest, later only go collect. Later only I provide feedback to you.
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was supposed to be my last post but here i go..
Thanks bro. She is fine. Some motorcycle cut to her lane so she avoided it but she lost control and went through the middle divider. Miraculously she only suffered minor arm bruises but the car was on it's side when she gained consciousness. She also hit the signage with smashed to the windscreen. luckily it was tinted to it didn't shatter.
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Glad everything is ok. Except the car. Yeah see you on the other side!
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QUOTE(neochaser5 @ Jan 11 2019, 03:57 PM)
was supposed to be my last post but here i go..
Thanks bro. She is fine. Some motorcycle cut to her lane so she avoided it but she lost control and went through the middle divider. Miraculously she only suffered minor arm bruises but the car was on it's side when she gained consciousness. She also hit the signage with smashed to the windscreen. luckily it was tinted to it didn't shatter.
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Lucky she is Allright bro. Good luck for the future.
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QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 11 2019, 04:53 PM)
No need remove the whole engine, just allocate the gearbox and do the changes from there.
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How Do we know the clutch got prob ? Auto gearbox ?
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QUOTE(neochaser5 @ Jan 11 2019, 03:57 PM)
was supposed to be my last post but here i go..
Thanks bro. She is fine. Some motorcycle cut to her lane so she avoided it but she lost control and went through the middle divider. Miraculously she only suffered minor arm bruises but the car was on it's side when she gained consciousness. She also hit the signage with smashed to the windscreen. luckily it was tinted to it didn't shatter.
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The car total lost ? Omg. Thank god ur wife is safe.
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QUOTE(tallrice @ Jan 11 2019, 04:59 PM)
so after replacement does ur car feel different?
when u release the clutch will the engine shake?
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After I got my car, I go for testing. So far the clutch very light and smooth.
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How Do we know the clutch got prob ? Auto gearbox ?
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Seriously no idea lol.. my last clutch replacement happens after clutch totally cannot engage. Had to tow to workshop to get it changed.
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How Do we know the clutch got prob ? Auto gearbox ?
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When you feel your car under power and your car rpm already quite high. Then that time need to change clutch.
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QUOTE(rex82 @ Jan 12 2019, 05:21 PM)
After I got my car, I go for testing. So far the clutch very light and smooth.
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thanks... i also feel very grateful for u as the clutch working fine...
coz i worry after dismantle and assemble back the gearbox will vibrate when u engage and disengage the clutch...
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 12 2019, 09:28 PM)
Seriously no idea lol.. my last clutch replacement happens after clutch totally cannot engage. Had to tow to workshop to get it changed.
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Don't know auto gear box got similar problem~ confused.gif
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Guys, i am wondering if can i do oil change at proton sc ? I will bring my own oil Do they accept outside oil ? I will be sending my car to service to solve the jerking problem btw.
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Proton SC? Half cut shop?


QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 15 2019, 11:40 AM)
Guys, i am wondering if can i do oil change at proton sc ? I will bring my own oil  Do they accept outside oil ? I will be sending my car to service to solve the jerking problem btw.
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If you're out of warranty already no problem one on oil. That's Proton before Geely era la... With x70 in I'm not sure they will change their protocol or not. Because for those expensive parts of X70 they'll very likely to strictly enforce only in house parts allowed in SC.

QUOTE(wklow28 @ Jan 15 2019, 12:27 AM)
Don't know auto gear box got similar problem~ :confused:
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Think got one. Auto gearbox also need clutch kan? Not say persona is torque converter or DSG correct 😋?

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is there a need for power steering fluid change or flush ? how much is the price ya at proton sc ?
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Well, I unable to answer you on is there a need or.... is a closed system some say better change, some say no.

I flush and change it recently at Proton SC, so I can share with you the price is RM140

I do it almost 4 years... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jan 15 2019, 03:01 PM)
Well, I unable to answer you on is there a need or.... is a closed system some say better change, some say no.

I flush and change it recently at Proton SC, so I can share with you the price is RM140

I do it almost 4 years...  sweat.gif
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mine is 4 yrs ++ car, thinking of changing smile.gif
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 15 2019, 06:09 PM)
mine is 4 yrs ++ car, thinking of changing  smile.gif
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My car almost 8 years. So last service is 2nd time doing it. (My own standard)
According to the staff, is better change. But for those too long time didn't change, then better remain untouch. As there is a case after change, the pump leaking.

It make me worry too.....
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Think got one. Auto gearbox also need clutch kan? Not say persona is torque converter or DSG correct 😋?
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Ya, I also think so. hmm.gif
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Hi there.. Driving Persona Elegance H-Line.. i silent read this thread long time ady.. just asking.. what's the best bang for bucks mod can be done on Automatic Persona?? Lots of my friend is NA so they can throw some high profile cam and so on.. any suggestions for mods?? I read some old thread said can jailbreak those 32bit ecu
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Hi, anyone know the gasket replacement cost at proton SC? Just checked my car today, found that there is oil stain on the bottom of engine top cover. I also found that the coolant hose is leaking, coz noticed some greenish stain outside of the hose...
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 19 2019, 11:39 AM)
Hi, anyone know the gasket replacement cost at proton SC? Just checked my car today, found that there is oil stain on the bottom of engine top cover. I also found that the coolant hose is leaking, coz noticed some greenish stain outside of the hose...
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You can actually do that cheap enough in any workshop. Just note that original proton head gasket is rubber based while in workshop you can request for silicon ones. On the hose, if you need to change the hose, probably you can make it a point to replace thermostat one shot.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 19 2019, 10:57 PM)
You can actually do that cheap enough in any workshop. Just note that original proton head gasket is rubber based while in workshop you can request for silicon ones. On the hose, if you need to change the hose, probably you can make it a point to replace thermostat one shot.
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silicone based more durable ? what's the price ya ? why there's a need to change thermostat ?
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 20 2019, 08:01 AM)
silicone based more durable ? what's the price ya ? why there's a need to change thermostat ?
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Yeah silicone one are more durable than rubber gasket. Can't really tell you the price difference since i never replaced it with rubber gasket. You can check in any spare parts shop by asking.

For your hose damaged there's a good chance your thermostat is rusted after long use. You can ask your mechanic to check. My point is since you already drain coolant to change house, you might want to change thermostat one shot since the access is the same. If your water pump is not changed for 160,000km, then can consider change. Proton recommends to me water pump to be changed every 160,000 km, i.e. every 2 times of timing belt change.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 20 2019, 09:51 AM)
Yeah silicone one are more durable than rubber gasket. Can't really tell you the price difference since i never replaced it with rubber gasket. You can check in any spare parts shop by asking.

For your hose damaged there's a good chance your thermostat is rusted after long use. You can ask your mechanic to check. My point is since you already drain coolant to change house, you might want to change thermostat one shot since the access is the same. If your water pump is not changed for 160,000km, then can consider change. Proton recommends to me water pump to be changed every 160,000 km, i.e. every 2 times of timing belt change.
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the car mileage is about 60k km now btw. I am actually surprised to see that the EO is leaking . My 15 yr old honda city nvr had gasket replaced until now. No leaking EO was observed whatsover. doh.gif
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 20 2019, 10:16 AM)
the car mileage is about 60k km now btw. I am actually surprised to see that the EO is leaking . My 15 yr old honda city nvr had gasket replaced until now. No leaking EO was observed whatsover.  doh.gif
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Cam cover gasket leak of Campro is very common. I got my leak around that mileage also. But it's not something that very hard to change. Suppose I can live with it.
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Cam cover gasket leak of Campro is very common. I got my leak around that mileage also. But it's not something that very hard to change. Suppose I can live with it.
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can you recall how much u spent on replacement of head gasket ? icon_idea.gif did you change it at proton sc ? did they help to clean the engine part that has oil stain on it ?

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can you recall how much u spent on replacement of head gasket ?  icon_idea.gif did you change it at proton sc ? did they help to clean the engine part that has oil stain on it ?
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I got it changed in workshop. All together with worksmanship less than 150 ringgit. The gasket less than 100. The rest is worksmanship.

No they don't clean it for me. I'll just clean it on the morning of my off day with dishwasher and brush with cold engine.
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Hi, anyone has use this oil? Why on the OP don't recommend it for persona? My ride is persona se 2009

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QUOTE(sepah98 @ Jan 16 2019, 10:11 PM)
Hi there.. Driving Persona Elegance H-Line.. i silent read this thread long time ady.. just asking.. what's the best bang for bucks mod can be done on Automatic Persona?? Lots of my friend is NA so they can throw some high profile cam and so on.. any suggestions for mods?? I read some old thread said can jailbreak those 32bit ecu
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Performance drop-in air filter, Lightened crank pulley, lightened cam pulley, 4-2-1 Extractor and full exhaust, Denso Iridium Spark plugs.. can increase around 12whp easily.

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Hi, anyone has use this oil? Why on the OP don't recommend it for persona? My ride is persona se 2009

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I used before.. somehow engine feels heavy after 4-5k km eventhough its a fully synthetic oil. never had the same issue with Castrol Edge Professional, Liqui Moly, Mobil 1. So i tend to avoid Shell brands.. Most of the original owners in the early days when PE just came out concur with the feel of it too.

BTW RM95 is dirt cheap, u can use this engine oil and change it earlier too, not necessary to wait till 10k km.

Changing engine oil frequently is actually the best way to clean your engine internals. Even more better than using Engine flush and all kind of stuffs. I change Semi oil every 5k km and Fully Sync every 7k km.

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 21 2019, 11:44 PM)
I got it changed in workshop. All together with worksmanship less than 150 ringgit. The gasket less than 100. The rest is worksmanship.

No they don't clean it for me. I'll just clean it on the morning of my off day with dishwasher and brush with cold engine.
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i 've gt it changed yesterday. the mechanics changed the valve rubber cover... the parts alone cost me rm60 at proton sc . Not sure the gasket = valve rubber cover or not ?
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 26 2019, 08:57 AM)
i 've gt it changed yesterday. the mechanics changed the valve rubber cover... the parts alone cost me rm60 at proton sc . Not sure the gasket =  valve rubber cover or not ?
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Should be the same. Tak kisah as long as they solve the oil leaking problem.


On the other topic, anyone here changed their radio head unit? I need one with bluetooth call function to get really clear call quality in car.. Currently am using those cheap AUX in bluetooth receiver but I need to shout for my voice to get through conversation clearly.

Anything i should take note for this?
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jan 25 2019, 07:50 PM)
Performance drop-in air filter, Lightened crank pulley, lightened cam pulley, 4-2-1 Extractor and full exhaust, Denso Iridium Spark plugs.. can increase around 12whp easily.
I used before.. somehow engine feels heavy after 4-5k km eventhough its a fully synthetic oil. never had the same issue with Castrol Edge Professional, Liqui Moly, Mobil 1. So i tend to avoid Shell brands.. Most of the original owners in the early days when PE just came out concur with the feel of it too.

BTW RM95 is dirt cheap, u can use this engine oil and change it earlier too, not necessary to wait till 10k km.

Changing engine oil frequently is actually the best way to clean your engine internals. Even more better than using Engine flush and all kind of stuffs. I change Semi oil every 5k km and Fully Sync every 7k km.
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walao, ppl here using cap kerang for 17k km, you changed at 1/4 of its life!
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4192241
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 27 2019, 11:45 AM)
walao, ppl here using cap kerang for 17k km, you changed at 1/4 of its life!
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4192241
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Lol biggrin.gif I get my engine oil very cheap.. And my car is at 200k mileage now.
I bulk buy a dozen Bosch Oil filters for RM68.50 from lazada last time. On top of that I get my engine oil from paulhew in Shoppee. He sells Castrol Edge quite cheap, with coupons and free shipping it only cost RM110+ a bottle.

I only drive like 16-20k km a year on average now and per day driving time will be around 2-2.5 hours due to traffic jam. I noticed that my engine torque and acceleration affected a lot after I started getting stucked in traffic jam. Previously i was working in Cyberjaya and to travel from Bukit Jalil to Cyber is by highway and rarely have jam. Hence this is why i started changing engine oil before due time (you are supposed to change engine oil every 6 mths anyway) and my engine power sort of restored a lot.

To be honest there are a lot more to engine oil than just the dirt level from an engine oil blot. Engine oil contains friction modifier, detergent, viscosity modifier etc etc which wears out over time from heat and usage. A clear engine oil doesnt show the amount of wear and tear to your engine internals. I used to extend my engine oil service life quite frequently last time when I was a student. my Semi Syn oil would last for 12k km, Fully Syn stretch to 15k km. But the darkness of the oil at each service change scares me. tongue.gif

My rule of thumb is, if u feel a major difference in performance after every engine oil service change, you should bring forward your oil change. The extra drag in your engine waste fuel anyways and will just offset the savings you had extending your oil change duration.

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 26 2019, 09:34 PM)
Should be the same. Tak kisah as long as they solve the oil leaking problem.
On the other topic, anyone here changed their radio head unit? I need one with bluetooth call function to get really clear call quality in car.. Currently am using those cheap AUX in bluetooth receiver but I need to shout for my voice to get through conversation clearly.

Anything i should take note for this?
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I have changed my HU to Kenwood KMM-BT303 (latest one is 304). This is their entry model for bluetooth head unit (without disc playback since I didn’t use it). Been using it for a year and it is great. There are also other brands with similar features and price range depending on your preference.

I always play music from my phone whenever driving. Even radio also stream online through phone. Been a loyal aux cable user for several years before decided to change to BT enabled head unit. Best decision ever. It does come with mic which will attached nearby so that your voice can be heard clearly when talking through phone.
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jan 27 2019, 09:30 PM)
Lol  biggrin.gif  I get my engine oil very cheap.. And my car is at 200k mileage now.
I bulk buy a dozen Bosch Oil filters for RM68.50 from lazada last time. On top of that I get my engine oil from paulhew in Shoppee. He sells Castrol Edge quite cheap, with coupons and free shipping it only cost RM110+ a bottle.

I only drive like 16-20k km a year on average now and per day driving time will be around 2-2.5 hours due to traffic jam. I noticed that my engine torque and acceleration affected a lot after I started getting stucked in traffic jam. Previously i was working in Cyberjaya and to travel from Bukit Jalil to Cyber is by highway and rarely have jam. Hence this is why i started changing engine oil before due time (you are supposed to change engine oil every 6 mths anyway) and my engine power sort of restored a lot.

To be honest there are a lot more to engine oil than just the dirt level from an engine oil blot. Engine oil contains friction modifier, detergent, viscosity modifier etc etc which wears out over time from heat and usage. A clear engine oil doesnt show the amount of wear and tear to your engine internals. I used to extend my engine oil service life quite frequently last time when I was a student. my Semi Syn oil would last for 12k km, Fully Syn stretch to 15k km. But the darkness of the oil at each service change scares me.  tongue.gif 

My rule of thumb is, if u feel a major difference in performance after every engine oil service change, you should bring forward your oil change. The extra drag in your engine waste fuel anyways and will just offset the savings you had extending your oil change duration.
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Good explanation. rclxms.gif

I usually use Mobil 1, but after 9k plus change it still not that dark.
Sometimes just felt that a bit wasted;
But after thinking it seriously, for the cleaner engine and performance this is nothing~ whistling.gif

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jan 27 2019, 09:30 PM)
Lol  biggrin.gif  I get my engine oil very cheap.. And my car is at 200k mileage now.
I bulk buy a dozen Bosch Oil filters for RM68.50 from lazada last time. On top of that I get my engine oil from paulhew in Shoppee. He sells Castrol Edge quite cheap, with coupons and free shipping it only cost RM110+ a bottle.

I only drive like 16-20k km a year on average now and per day driving time will be around 2-2.5 hours due to traffic jam. I noticed that my engine torque and acceleration affected a lot after I started getting stucked in traffic jam. Previously i was working in Cyberjaya and to travel from Bukit Jalil to Cyber is by highway and rarely have jam. Hence this is why i started changing engine oil before due time (you are supposed to change engine oil every 6 mths anyway) and my engine power sort of restored a lot.

To be honest there are a lot more to engine oil than just the dirt level from an engine oil blot. Engine oil contains friction modifier, detergent, viscosity modifier etc etc which wears out over time from heat and usage. A clear engine oil doesnt show the amount of wear and tear to your engine internals. I used to extend my engine oil service life quite frequently last time when I was a student. my Semi Syn oil would last for 12k km, Fully Syn stretch to 15k km. But the darkness of the oil at each service change scares me.  tongue.gif 

My rule of thumb is, if u feel a major difference in performance after every engine oil service change, you should bring forward your oil change. The extra drag in your engine waste fuel anyways and will just offset the savings you had extending your oil change duration.
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Jan 28 2019, 12:36 AM)
Good explanation.  rclxms.gif

I usually use Mobil 1, but after 9k plus change it still not that dark.
Sometimes just felt that a bit wasted;
But after thinking it seriously, for the cleaner engine and performance this is nothing~ whistling.gif
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Come to think of it, the latest Volvo S90 and XC90 has a 25k km service interval. blink.gif

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I have changed my HU to Kenwood KMM-BT303 (latest one is 304). This is their entry model for bluetooth head unit (without disc playback since I didn’t use it). Been using it for a year and it is great. There are also other brands with similar features and price range depending on your preference.

I always play music from my phone whenever driving. Even radio also stream online through phone. Been a loyal aux cable user for several years before decided to change to BT enabled head unit. Best decision ever. It does come with mic which will attached nearby so that your voice can be heard clearly when talking through phone.
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I'm looking at the KDC-620U. Need the CD player as I got some children song CD for kids during family outings.

My concern is the call quality. Is it sufficient for your caller to hear you without installing the mic? Or if you installed it where you stick it to? I'm thinking of sticking it to top of A pillar, at the corner of windscreen, if the headunit cannot do properly without the mic.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 28 2019, 09:07 AM)
I'm looking at the KDC-620U. Need the CD player as I got some children song CD for kids during family outings.

My concern is the call quality. Is it sufficient for your caller to hear you without installing the mic? Or if you installed it where you stick it to? I'm thinking of sticking it to top of A pillar, at the corner of windscreen, if the headunit cannot do properly without the mic.

Thanks in advance.
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AFAIK, if mic is not installed, by default it will use your phone internal mic to capture your voice since the unit doesn't have any mic built in. The quality of course depending on your phone position. If you hold your phone near every time you are speaking through then I guess should be OK.

Currently I installed the mic at the exact same location at pillar at the top corner of the windshield. I've never checked the call quality from caller side but so far they didn't raise any concern on the voice quality. I just speak normally as normal phone conversation.
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Jan 28 2019, 11:34 AM)
AFAIK, if mic is not installed, by default it will use your phone internal mic to capture your voice since the unit doesn't have any mic built in. The quality of course depending on your phone position. If you hold your phone near every time you are speaking through then I guess should be OK.

Currently I installed the mic at the exact same location at pillar at the top corner of the windshield. I've never checked the call quality from caller side but so far they didn't raise any concern on the voice quality. I just speak normally as normal phone conversation.
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Cool bro. Thanks a lot for the tips! A lot of people stick the mic at the steering column in front of odometer and AFAIC that's really an eyesore. Thanks again for your advice, shall go for the A-Pillar then!
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In dilemma to choose..i drive persona manual..powerzone@ exss exhaust setup?anyone?? Powerzon 4-2-1 extractor,exss 4-1 extractor....
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Better try Super circuit by H-Performance at Sunway, quite expensive but maybe a better choice.
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Better try Super circuit by H-Performance at Sunway, quite expensive but maybe a better choice.
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In dilemma to choose..i drive persona manual..powerzone@ exss exhaust setup?anyone?? Powerzon 4-2-1 extractor,exss 4-1 extractor....
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Hello guys,

Im new here. Currently im driving a Proton persona IAFM B-Line auto 2011, current mileage 70k km.

Mods have been done to to my car.
1.) gen2 cps Front grile
2.) Sony HU
3.) 6.5 inch Component speakers
4.) Nakamichi 500w RMS class D Monoblock
5.) Nakamichi 12inch dual voice coil woofer

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QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 8 2019, 11:41 AM)
Hello guys,

Im new here. Currently im driving a Proton persona IAFM B-Line auto 2011, current mileage 75k.

Mods have been to to my car.
1.) gen2 cps Front grile
2.) Sony HU
3.) 6.5 inch Component speakers
4.) Nakamichi 500w RMS Monoblock
5.) Nakamichi 12inch dual voice coil woofer
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That is quite low mileage for 2011 model. Mine 2014 already 85k. Btw no amp driving the component speaker?

Last week i just change my timing belt at zordaq. They offered me pedal response tuning to increase pedal response. This is my first time did this and suprisingly the response is much improved. Better pickup as well. Car feel much lighter when accelerate. For rm50 it is worth it
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 8 2019, 01:09 PM)
That is quite low mileage for 2011 model. Mine 2014 already 85k. Btw no amp driving the component speaker?

Last week i just change my timing belt at zordaq. They offered me pedal response tuning to increase pedal response. This is my first time did this and suprisingly the response is much improved. Better pickup as well. Car feel much lighter when accelerate. For rm50 it is worth it
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Mine 2011 B-Line 430,000km lol..

On a serious note is the pedal response tuning limited to AT only? Can do on MT?
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 8 2019, 02:24 PM)
Mine 2011 B-Line 430,000km lol..

On a serious note is the pedal response tuning limited to AT only? Can do on MT?
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Of course. Mine also MT year 2014 SV model.
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 8 2019, 04:36 PM)
Of course. Mine also MT year 2014 SV model.
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That's great to hear! Will check out with them!
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 8 2019, 01:09 PM)
That is quite low mileage for 2011 model. Mine 2014 already 85k. Btw no amp driving the component speaker?

Last week i just change my timing belt at zordaq. They offered me pedal response tuning to increase pedal response. This is my first time did this and suprisingly the response is much improved. Better pickup as well. Car feel much lighter when accelerate. For rm50 it is worth it
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how did they tune the pedal? hmm.gif
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how did they tune the pedal?  hmm.gif
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From what i saw the foreman take out the pedal, unscrew cover and connect to a some kind of tablet using cable. Then he tune it using the tablet based on what car model and parameters. Seem like a tricky procedure with several time of on/off the ignition and revving but the person seems like he know what he was doing. In my case took around 10 minutes to complete
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 8 2019, 09:28 PM)
From what i saw the foreman take out the pedal, unscrew cover and connect to a some kind of tablet using cable. Then he tune it using the tablet based on what car model and parameters. Seem like a tricky procedure with several time of on/off the ignition and revving but the person seems like he know what he was doing. In my case took around 10 minutes to complete
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ah i see.. i guess he was adjusting the throttle curve or some sort.. did it fix the initial throttle delay?

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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 8 2019, 01:09 PM)
That is quite low mileage for 2011 model. Mine 2014 already 85k. Btw no amp driving the component speaker?

Last week i just change my timing belt at zordaq. They offered me pedal response tuning to increase pedal response. This is my first time did this and suprisingly the response is much improved. Better pickup as well. Car feel much lighter when accelerate. For rm50 it is worth it
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Ya, component speaker directly wire to my sony HU. I do hav a spare 2ch class ab amp....but im afraid my alternator or batery cant handle...

May i know how much did zordaq charge u for the timing belt replacement including labour? My persona gonna reach 80k km soon.....
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 8 2019, 02:24 PM)
Mine 2011 B-Line 430,000km lol..

On a serious note is the pedal response tuning limited to AT only? Can do on MT?
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Wow so much different......lol

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Wow so much different......lol
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Feb 8 2019, 09:35 PM)
ah i see.. i guess he was adjusting the throttle curve or some sort.. did it fix the initial throttle delay?
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The delay is improved but not totally eliminated

QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 8 2019, 09:42 PM)
Ya, component speaker directly wire to my sony HU. I do hav a spare 2ch class ab amp....but im afraid my alternator or batery cant handle...

May i know how much did zordaq charge u for the timing belt replacement including labour? My persona gonna reach 80k km soon.....
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My component rated 60w rms does give significant difference in performance when connected with amp. Also i think it is not good for your speaker to be in underpower state for a long period of time.

Btw, the timing belt is rm380 incl installation. Part original proton.
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2008 manufactured only 85k I still keep quiet until you all showing off...
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2008 manufactured only 85k I still keep quiet until you all showing off...
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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Feb 8 2019, 10:10 PM)
my 2011 is on 74k  laugh.gif
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are u planning to change timing belt soon? or wait until 80k km? ....currently im in a dilemma .... to change it now or wait till 80k km......
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 8 2019, 10:23 PM)
The delay is improved but not totally eliminated
My component rated 60w rms does give significant difference in performance when connected with amp. Also i think it is not good for your speaker to be in underpower state for a long period of time.

Btw, the timing belt is rm380 incl installation. Part original proton.
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hi, thanks for the info....!

....so far the clarity of the sound is ok...just that the tweeter is a little bit too loud for.....


a few month ago im thinking for swapping my component to onmi beyond full range speaker....after watching all the review....feel like kenal racun.....lol...

but i need to save money for brake fluid flush, power steering flush, timing belt, water pump, FEAD belt, absorber mouting, .......and the list go on......

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 8 2019, 10:26 PM)
2008 manufactured only 85k I still keep quiet until you all showing off...
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Yo lauban and sifus, recently interested in some car maintenance/efficiency part replacements for my persona, 2009 model if not mistaken (bought over from my cousin). On one of the persona threads from donkey years ago, saw a few people talking about switching to Denso Iridium spark plugs, is this still recommended?
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QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 9 2019, 01:09 AM)
are u planning to change timing belt soon? or wait until 80k km? ....currently im in a dilemma .... to change it now or wait till 80k km......
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QUOTE(ArmedandDangerous @ Feb 9 2019, 02:10 PM)
Yo lauban and sifus, recently interested in some car maintenance/efficiency part replacements for my persona, 2009 model if not mistaken (bought over from my cousin).    On one of the persona threads from donkey years ago, saw a few people talking about switching to Denso Iridium spark plugs, is this still recommended?
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Still relevant. Just that Denso got a lot pf imitation. So have tp be careful.

One thing i found strange though is the Denso Iridium i got from trusted spare part shop and Zordaq is totally different packaging (spare part shop one is common Denso packing, Zordaq one is Blue-green colour scheme packing).. According to Zordaq they're using Japan packed Denso Iridium which works better on CamPro.

Anyway the reason i use Iridium is because of the service interval. Everytime I change spark plug sure got ignition coil spoiled. So I pull it out less the less I need to replace it.


QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Jan 28 2019, 12:24 AM)
I have changed my HU to Kenwood KMM-BT303 (latest one is 304). This is their entry model for bluetooth head unit (without disc playback since I didn’t use it). Been using it for a year and it is great. There are also other brands with similar features and price range depending on your preference.

I always play music from my phone whenever driving. Even radio also stream online through phone. Been a loyal aux cable user for several years before decided to change to BT enabled head unit. Best decision ever. It does come with mic which will attached nearby so that your voice can be heard clearly when talking through phone.
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Yo bro, thanks for the advice!

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 9 2019, 03:13 PM)
Yo bro, thanks for the advice!

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Nice upgrade bro. Not so much diff from my 303. Enjoy your new bluetooth connectivity
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 9 2019, 03:13 PM)
Still relevant. Just that Denso got a lot pf imitation. So have tp be careful.

One thing i found strange though is the Denso Iridium i got from trusted spare part shop and Zordaq is totally different packaging (spare part shop one is common Denso packing, Zordaq one is Blue-green colour scheme packing).. According to Zordaq they're using Japan packed Denso Iridium which works better on CamPro.

Anyway the reason i use Iridium is because of the service interval. Everytime I change spark plug sure got ignition coil spoiled. So I pull it out less the less I need to replace it.
Yo bro, thanks for the advice!

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How frequently you change spark plug? Mine last changed at 45k now mileage 85k wondering want to change or wait 90k. Using Bosch standard spark plug.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 9 2019, 08:30 PM)
How frequently you change spark plug? Mine last changed at 45k now mileage 85k wondering want to change or wait 90k. Using Bosch standard spark plug.
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dares's dad mia car can do 80k mileage no change sepakberak, so save bet can yours can delay until 90k. lol.
i use normal proton sepakberak also change every 40k no problem. yours delay 5k to 45k should be no problem. i can bet 50k also no problem.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 9 2019, 09:11 PM)
dares's dad mia car can do 80k mileage no change sepakberak, so save bet can yours can delay until 90k. lol.
i use normal proton sepakberak also change every 40k no problem. yours delay 5k to 45k should be no problem. i can bet 50k also no problem.
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 9 2019, 03:51 PM)
Nice upgrade bro. Not so much diff from my 303. Enjoy your new bluetooth connectivity
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Thanks a lot bro! Really enjoyed the BT function!

QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 9 2019, 08:30 PM)
How frequently you change spark plug? Mine last changed at 45k now mileage 85k wondering want to change or wait 90k. Using Bosch standard spark plug.
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I got some oxygen sensor and knock sensor issue some 30,000km back then, so I have changed spark plugs to rule out knocking issue, eventually it's related to my gear changing habit as the code was triggered due to engine lugging..

Back to topic, I planned to change it with timing belt, which is every 80,000 km if it's Iridium. But i tend to concur with iskazulka, we can drag it longer than that. Just that out of service convenience I just change it together with timing belt.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 9 2019, 08:30 PM)
How frequently you change spark plug? Mine last changed at 45k now mileage 85k wondering want to change or wait 90k. Using Bosch standard spark plug.
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every 50k consider good d. can drag to 60k also
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 9 2019, 03:13 PM)
Still relevant. Just that Denso got a lot pf imitation. So have tp be careful.

One thing i found strange though is the Denso Iridium i got from trusted spare part shop and Zordaq is totally different packaging (spare part shop one is common Denso packing, Zordaq one is Blue-green colour scheme packing).. According to Zordaq they're using Japan packed Denso Iridium which works better on CamPro.

Anyway the reason i use Iridium is because of the service interval. Everytime I change spark plug sure got ignition coil spoiled. So I pull it out less the less I need to replace it.
Yo bro, thanks for the advice!

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QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 9 2019, 01:09 AM)
are u planning to change timing belt soon? or wait until 80k km? ....currently im in a dilemma .... to change it now or wait till 80k km......
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have a visual check on the belt. see got any hairline crack or not.
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Feb 11 2019, 09:11 PM)
Delicious Kenwood, any speaker change?  laugh.gif
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Mine is B-LINE, so only add 2 front door speakers. Not really good expensive speakers some more... Got it at 100++ few years ago, a brand called Uncle Sam. Should it be ok i think.. 😁
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any idea how much it cost to buy the A-pillar trim? mine fall off after several time of remove and install sad.gif

btw, currently proudly driving my Proton Persona 2010 H-Line biggrin.gif no mod all pure~~

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 11 2019, 10:16 PM)
Mine is B-LINE, so only add 2 front door speakers. Not really good expensive speakers some more... Got it at 100++ few years ago, a brand called Uncle Sam. Should it be ok i think.. 😁
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Ya, mine also B-Line.
Bit not clear without front doors speakers. dry.gif

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QUOTE(123qwe @ Feb 12 2019, 12:01 PM)
any idea how much it cost to buy the A-pillar trim? mine fall off after several time of remove and install sad.gif

btw, currently proudly driving my Proton Persona 2010 H-Line  biggrin.gif no mod all pure~~
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Think you can get it from proton. Did you leave the metal clip inside A pillar? Everytime we cabut the trim we need to remove the clips from pillar and pasang balik to trim leh... Anyway if I were you and the clip broken, I'll try to double tape it back lol..

QUOTE(wklow28 @ Feb 12 2019, 01:57 PM)
Ya, mine also B-Line.
Bit not clear without front doors speakers.  dry.gif
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Even with front doors speaker installed i still feel rear speakers are always louder.. need to adjust the fader to F5 then only feel balanced. Sometimes i asked myself that would it make any difference if I changed a better front speakers... But then it's just for listening radio so i think i still can live with it..
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 12 2019, 02:29 PM)
Think you can get it from proton. Did you leave the metal clip inside A pillar? Everytime we cabut the trim we need to remove the clips from pillar and pasang balik to trim leh... Anyway if I were you and the clip broken, I'll try to double tape it back lol..
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let me check it tonight.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 12 2019, 02:29 PM)
Even with front doors speaker installed i still feel rear speakers are always louder.. need to adjust the fader to F5 then only feel balanced. Sometimes i asked myself that would it make any difference if I changed a better front speakers... But then it's just for listening radio so i think i still can live with it..
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May be you need some tweeters in front too... cool2.gif

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Feb 12 2019, 06:16 PM)
May be you need some tweeters in front too... cool2.gif
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Omni beyond full range speaker? Haha.
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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Feb 12 2019, 06:16 PM)
May be you need some tweeters in front too... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 12 2019, 07:58 PM)
Omni beyond full range speaker? Haha.
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Operation Racun start now. 😆
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 11 2019, 09:31 PM)
have a visual check on the belt. see got any hairline crack or not.
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Hi, I did ask the Proton SC check, they said my belt got no crack....but still recommended to replace...."because belt usually wont show any sign of crack...if putus straigth away putus" <--- told by Proton SC


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anyone install omni beyond full range speaker in their persona?......how is the sound quality? better than component set?
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QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 13 2019, 10:31 AM)
anyone install omni beyond full range speaker in their persona?......how is the sound quality? better than component set?
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OMNI BEYOND™ 2"full range speaker cool2.gif


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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Feb 13 2019, 03:06 PM)
OMNI BEYOND™ 2"full range speaker  cool2.gif


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Ini racun kuat. Actually is there anyway to subtlely position 6 speakers in Persona ar?
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 13 2019, 03:46 PM)
Ini racun kuat. Actually is there anyway to subtlely position 6 speakers in Persona ar?
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I also no idea, haha~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 13 2019, 03:46 PM)
Ini racun kuat. Actually is there anyway to subtlely position 6 speakers in Persona ar?
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omni speaker x 2 on dashboard
front speaker x 2 on door
rear speaker x2 under rear windscreen panel

what?! you want achieve Dolby Atmos theater is it? bruce.gif
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QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 13 2019, 10:28 AM)
Hi, I did ask the Proton SC check, they said my belt got no crack....but still recommended to replace...."because belt usually wont show any sign of crack...if putus straigth away putus"  <--- told by Proton SC
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Dont just look at the outer surface. When the engine is not running, try to touch the inner surface. You will definitely feel that the inner surface is rough already.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 13 2019, 08:42 PM)
omni speaker x 2 on dashboard
front speaker x 2 on door
rear speaker x2 under rear windscreen panel

what?! you want achieve Dolby Atmos theater is it?  bruce.gif
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Lol bro.. no.. i don't mean that hahahaha... I was thinking can we hide the omni speaker somewhere?
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QUOTE(jalanloh @ Feb 13 2019, 10:28 AM)
Hi, I did ask the Proton SC check, they said my belt got no crack....but still recommended to replace...."because belt usually wont show any sign of crack...if putus straigth away putus"  <--- told by Proton SC
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 13 2019, 09:58 PM)
Dont just look at the outer surface. When the engine is not running, try to touch the inner surface. You will definitely feel that the inner surface is rough already.
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Hi jalanloh bro, I don't really have any technical opinion to contribute, but if it involves major repair, it's always worth getting a second opinion.

On the side note, if you keep your timing belt covered well using the cover, it'll last longer as dust doesn't get in easily. The cover got sponge adjacent to the camhead side that always degrade due to engine heat.
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Hi wanna ask something

Can u recommend me a good absorber. I dont know to choose between proride, monroe, kyb, apm or gab. I want the standard one, not too stiff or soft.

Which one is good eh ?

My persona already 11 years old and odo shows 145,000 km but never change absorber.

Other than absorber link, are there any part that i should change together when i change my absorber ? I wanna save the labour cost hehehe
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QUOTE(Tirek @ Feb 13 2019, 10:24 PM)
Hi wanna ask something

Can u recommend me a good absorber. I dont know to choose between proride, monroe, kyb, apm or gab. I want the standard one, not too stiff or soft.

Which one is good eh ?

My persona already 11 years old and odo shows 145,000 km but never change absorber.

Other than absorber link, are there any part that i should change together when i change my absorber ? I wanna save the labour cost hehehe
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I'd say just go for KYB OEM if it's the standard experience you want. But do make note that a lot of workshops and sparepart shops equate persona absorber to gen2 absorber to waja absorber. So make sure you go to KYB website and download their parts number for persona OEM absorber. Gen2 and waja rear absorbers are somewhat shorter and causes the link bush to crack.

I usually change absorber mountings and absorber covers and whatnot all together but people usually don't bother with them.

One thing to note is on the rear sway bar link bush make sure your foreman don't bolt the nut all the way until the end, the bush will just crack. Ini proton technician teach one.
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 13 2019, 09:58 PM)
Dont just look at the outer surface. When the engine is not running, try to touch the inner surface. You will definitely feel that the inner surface is rough already.
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ok noted, thanks bro
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 13 2019, 10:04 PM)
Hi jalanloh bro, I don't really have any technical opinion to contribute, but if it involves major repair, it's always worth getting a second opinion.

On the side note, if you keep your timing belt covered well using the cover, it'll last longer as dust doesn't get in easily. The cover got sponge adjacent to the camhead side that always degrade due to engine heat.
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Hi, thanks for the info.....and ya i noticed my cam cover seal is cracked .....
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 13 2019, 11:40 PM)
I'd say just go for KYB OEM if it's the standard experience you want. But do make note that a lot of workshops and sparepart shops equate persona absorber to gen2 absorber to waja absorber. So make sure you go to KYB website and download their parts number for persona OEM absorber. Gen2 and waja rear absorbers are somewhat shorter and causes the link bush to crack.

I usually change absorber mountings and absorber covers and whatnot all together but people usually don't bother with them.

One thing to note is on the rear sway bar link bush make sure your foreman don't bolt the nut all the way until the end, the bush will just crack. Ini proton technician teach one.
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This is one great piece of information. I'd always assumed Persona Kayaba is common with Gen2 and Waja since most workshop quoted the same item.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 13 2019, 11:40 PM)
I'd say just go for KYB OEM if it's the standard experience you want. But do make note that a lot of workshops and sparepart shops equate persona absorber to gen2 absorber to waja absorber. So make sure you go to KYB website and download their parts number for persona OEM absorber. Gen2 and waja rear absorbers are somewhat shorter and causes the link bush to crack.

I usually change absorber mountings and absorber covers and whatnot all together but people usually don't bother with them.

One thing to note is on the rear sway bar link bush make sure your foreman don't bolt the nut all the way until the end, the bush will just crack. Ini proton technician teach one.
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Monroe better...kayaba too soft
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 13 2019, 11:40 PM)
I'd say just go for KYB OEM if it's the standard experience you want. But do make note that a lot of workshops and sparepart shops equate persona absorber to gen2 absorber to waja absorber. So make sure you go to KYB website and download their parts number for persona OEM absorber. Gen2 and waja rear absorbers are somewhat shorter and causes the link bush to crack.

I usually change absorber mountings and absorber covers and whatnot all together but people usually don't bother with them.

One thing to note is on the rear sway bar link bush make sure your foreman don't bolt the nut all the way until the end, the bush will just crack. Ini proton technician teach one.
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Thanks for the info thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Ricky300 @ Feb 14 2019, 11:47 AM)
Monroe better...kayaba too soft
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U change to monroe ? Which one expensive, kyb or monroe ?
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QUOTE(Tirek @ Feb 14 2019, 07:00 PM)
U change to monroe ? Which one expensive, kyb or monroe ?
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i didn't own a persona...my colleague using monroe on his Saga...he says better than Kayaba...but i think very much depending on individual preference...
in term of price, kayaba is much cheaper

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 8 2019, 10:26 PM)
2008 manufactured only 85k I still keep quiet until you all showing off...
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wow... u really seldom use the car at all...
i thought i m the least user here 2007 first batch at 106k now but u beat me doh.gif
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 10 2019, 04:37 PM)
every 50k consider good d. can drag to 60k also
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just check with my service manual, my current sepakberak is already 60k mileage wtf
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QUOTE(tallrice @ Feb 15 2019, 12:27 AM)
wow... u really seldom use the car at all...
i thought i m the least user here 2007 first batch at 106k now but u beat me doh.gif
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Bought the car new at year 2012, so it's actually 7 years only instead of 11 years usage.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Feb 15 2019, 07:41 AM)
just check with my service manual, my current sepakberak is already 60k mileage wtf
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No need change lar, just wait the car stalled on road side only change. That's how we conserve resources for environmental friendly.
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Feb 14 2019, 09:17 AM)
This is one great piece of information. I'd always assumed Persona Kayaba is common with Gen2 and Waja since most workshop quoted the same item.
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urs have ABS or not coz if have ABS different type
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 15 2019, 12:04 PM)
No need change lar, just wait the car stalled on road side only change. That's how we conserve resources for environmental friendly.
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should answer to yourself since you the one ask last time can delay 5k change or not. i delay 15k already no problem one just like ckdenion say.

i from 20k internal change to 30k, then now 60k. this is the proof. now need someone to exceed dares mia dad 80k challenge LOL.



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guys, do i need to do engine flush if i wanna change brand and type of the engine oil?

my current mileage is near 90k, plan to changes from brand A semi to Brand B full syn

using Persona SV here
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QUOTE(lansi_raju @ Feb 16 2019, 10:05 AM)
guys, do i need to do engine flush if i wanna change brand and type of the engine oil?

my current mileage is near 90k, plan to changes from brand A semi to Brand B full syn

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i use from cap kerang, rock oil, petro canada, and now liqui moly, never do engine flush.
conclusion, no need.
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QUOTE(lansi_raju @ Feb 16 2019, 10:05 AM)
guys, do i need to do engine flush if i wanna change brand and type of the engine oil?

my current mileage is near 90k, plan to changes from brand A semi to Brand B full syn

using Persona SV here
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becareful as some of the product will damage your engine...
its better just to change the EO only than use engine flush agent...
later your entire engine need to overhaul
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Guys, i am experiencing jerking on my persona especially during low speed. I have sent the car to reset the ECU twice , cleaned throttle body, replaced spark plug , but the problem persists. Any solution to resolve the jerking issue ?
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Guys mau tanya.

My persona feels really sluggish. Need to press to 3k+ RPM only feel like its moving.

Is it due to EO? Previously was using Liqui Moly now using Petronas Syntium 3000. Mileage now around 114k km. Next service 120k km.

Or maybe due to IAFM? How to know if its from IAFM?

Or is it due to other things? Hmm.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Feb 17 2019, 04:10 PM)
Guys, i am experiencing jerking on my persona especially during low speed. I have sent the car to reset the ECU twice , cleaned throttle body, replaced spark plug , but the problem persists. Any solution to resolve the jerking issue ?
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Was it you or wklow28 bro who had the same problem last time? Have you rule out TCU problem if your drive is AT?


QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Feb 18 2019, 01:02 AM)
Guys mau tanya.

My persona feels really sluggish. Need to press to 3k+ RPM only feel like its moving.

Is it due to EO? Previously was using Liqui Moly now using Petronas Syntium 3000. Mileage now around 114k km. Next service 120k km.

Or maybe due to IAFM? How to know if its from IAFM?

Or is it due to other things? Hmm.
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Have you changed a new air filter? It's always a cheap fix for me. Petronas EO tend to degrade faster for my ride. Around 3,000km after oil change I already can feel engine noise coarse, could be because of that, could be not. If IAFM it's the famous diesel-engine like tak tak tak sound. Can easily get diagnosed and fixed in Zordaq, or other shop that provide IAFM repair.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 18 2019, 08:34 AM)
Was it you or wklow28 bro who had the same problem last time? Have you rule out TCU problem if your drive is AT?
Have you changed a new air filter? It's always a cheap fix for me. Petronas EO tend to degrade faster for my ride. Around 3,000km after oil change I already can feel engine noise coarse, could be because of that, could be not. If IAFM it's the famous diesel-engine like tak tak tak sound. Can easily get diagnosed and fixed in Zordaq, or other shop that provide IAFM repair.
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you mean the gearbox problem ? i have changed the gearbox oil too not too long ago.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Feb 17 2019, 04:10 PM)
Guys, i am experiencing jerking on my persona especially during low speed. I have sent the car to reset the ECU twice , cleaned throttle body, replaced spark plug , but the problem persists. Any solution to resolve the jerking issue ?
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Engine mounting prob ?
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Feb 18 2019, 01:18 PM)
you mean the gearbox problem ? i have changed the gearbox oil too not too long ago.
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I was thinking along the line of your TCU connector issue.. but better investigate from cheaper parts like engine mounting mentioned by @anakMY bro.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 18 2019, 05:14 PM)
I was thinking along the line of your TCU connector issue.. but better investigate from cheaper parts like engine mounting mentioned by @anakMY bro.
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But i noticed that the engine rpm was fluctuating hmm.gif
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Feb 18 2019, 09:47 PM)
But i noticed that the engine rpm was fluctuating  hmm.gif
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Hopefully not either throttle body spoiled, or wiring issue.

For ypur reference, last time i got issue throttle body stuck at certain position, ended up the car can only max 2k rpm, drive slow slow to a workshop which said it's throttle body spoiled, so tukar one. Didn't solve the problem, workshop ask me to get help from proton edar & tow to there.

Proton Edar plentong was kind enough to test all components from accelerator pedal, ECU, and throttle body by trying new ones on my car, in the end they didn't found anything wrong with these parts. So they proceed to check the most troublesome component: the wiring bundle.

They trace the wiring bundle from throttle body to ECU, cutting open hoping to find an exposed wire or short, eventually they didn't found anything except the bundle was wet. After they let it dry, and packed back the bundle, and probably planning to call me for saying this is out of their repairing skills, my car started fine. Worst part of the story is since proton didn't change any parts, they only charge me RM60 OBD scanning fee. Making me feel so bad.

Get your car scanned for OBD code bro. Then only you can work on it. And you really need to meet good Samaritan like Proton Edar that do the free job for me. Wiring problem a lot of workshop outside not willing to do since it's time intensive and low revenue generation.

Edit: Anyway i got an all new Persona Elegance throttle body sitting somewhere in my store room. If you in JB i can pass to you for testing. Lol

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 18 2019, 08:34 AM)
Was it you or wklow28 bro who had the same problem last time? Have you rule out TCU problem if your drive is AT?
Have you changed a new air filter? It's always a cheap fix for me. Petronas EO tend to degrade faster for my ride. Around 3,000km after oil change I already can feel engine noise coarse, could be because of that, could be not. If IAFM it's the famous diesel-engine like tak tak tak sound. Can easily get diagnosed and fixed in Zordaq, or other shop that provide IAFM repair.
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Nope, not me. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 18 2019, 11:41 PM)
Hopefully not either throttle body spoiled, or wiring issue.

For ypur reference, last time i got issue throttle body stuck at certain position, ended up the car can only max 2k rpm, drive slow slow to a workshop which said it's throttle body spoiled, so tukar one. Didn't solve the problem, workshop ask me to get help from proton edar & tow to there.

Proton Edar plentong was kind enough to test all components from accelerator pedal, ECU, and throttle body by trying new ones on my car, in the end they didn't found anything wrong with these parts. So they proceed to check the most troublesome component: the wiring bundle.

They trace the wiring bundle from throttle body to ECU, cutting open hoping to find an exposed wire or short, eventually they didn't found anything except the bundle was wet. After they let it dry, and packed back the bundle, and probably planning to call me for saying this is out of their repairing skills, my car started fine. Worst part of the story is since proton didn't change any parts, they only charge me RM60 OBD scanning fee. Making me feel so bad.

Get your car scanned for OBD code bro. Then only you can work on it. And you really need to meet good Samaritan like Proton Edar that do the free job for me. Wiring problem a lot of workshop outside not willing to do since it's time intensive and low revenue generation.

Edit: Anyway i got an all new Persona Elegance throttle body sitting somewhere in my store room. If you in JB i can pass to you for testing. Lol
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I don't know those SC guy will do such a detailed checking, u untung lar~ rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Feb 17 2019, 04:10 PM)
Guys, i am experiencing jerking on my persona especially during low speed. I have sent the car to reset the ECU twice , cleaned throttle body, replaced spark plug , but the problem persists. Any solution to resolve the jerking issue ?
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As mentioned previously, there workaround solution to your complain is... Change car! This is the normal behavior of our car to rev up and down during traffic jam slow moving maneuver, sometime the gear confused and reluctant then suddenly change, thus the "jerking". You can't accept this behavior then have no choice other than looking for another car...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 19 2019, 02:21 PM)
As mentioned previously, there workaround solution to your complain is... Change car! This is the normal behavior of our car to rev up and down during traffic jam slow moving maneuver, sometime the gear confused and reluctant then suddenly change, thus the "jerking". You can't accept this behavior then have no choice other than looking for another car...
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Or get a manual tranny like me? 😋
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 19 2019, 02:21 PM)
As mentioned previously, there workaround solution to your complain is... Change car! This is the normal behavior of our car to rev up and down during traffic jam slow moving maneuver, sometime the gear confused and reluctant then suddenly change, thus the "jerking". You can't accept this behavior then have no choice other than looking for another car...
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i dunno ma . haha . I have been driving manual car for so long . icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 21 2019, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 19 2019, 03:11 PM)
Or get a manual tranny like me? 😋
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Seems like he's driving Manual, haha! cool2.gif
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post Feb 22 2019, 04:13 PM

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My H-Line auto 2010 also got jerking problem but only when the car stops while gear is at D. once in a while it will rev up. so when i stop i change gear to N. any idea what's wrong?
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post Feb 22 2019, 07:01 PM

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post Feb 22 2019, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(abekage @ Feb 22 2019, 04:13 PM)
My H-Line auto 2010 also got jerking problem but only when the car stops while gear is at D. once in a while it will rev up. so when i stop i change gear to N. any idea what's wrong?
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I would suspect engine mounting?


QUOTE(efariz @ Feb 22 2019, 07:01 PM)
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