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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona IAFM Owners Club V55-+♠+-, The besi buruk counting it's days.

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wklow28
post Sep 6 2019, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 6 2019, 05:32 PM)
My mechanic once told me to be very careful of the temperature. If overheated , the engine block is made of aluminium and it will be disfigured , even u do overhaul also still will hv overheating issues. Hv to change the whole engine
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Huh, this is scary. cry.gif
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post Sep 6 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 6 2019, 02:11 PM)
100k never change coolant?

usually change coolant every 30-40k. coolant color usually green or red or blue.
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got recommand shop to do flush and good coolant??
iskazulka
post Sep 6 2019, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(delaciox @ Sep 6 2019, 08:32 PM)
got recommand shop to do flush and good coolant??
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use proton coolant is good enough

or toyota long life coolant, GEP long life coolant.

i usually go to Autohaus KL @ AU3 Keramat.

voscar
post Sep 7 2019, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 6 2019, 05:11 PM)
actually it is. if non reach max, can avoid gasket kong.
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Then how to tell whether my car's gasket kong edi or not? Overheated few occasion and still driving for past 4-5 years no rasa. Is it only can tell by open-up engine top?

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post Sep 7 2019, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 7 2019, 12:04 AM)
Then how to tell whether my car's gasket kong edi or not? Overheated few occasion and still driving for past 4-5 years no rasa. Is it only can tell by open-up engine top?
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your car engine still running fine lor. that's how to know.

if gasket kong, your car cannot start, stranded kena tow.

your case is you are lucky, unlike others, that's all.

your lucky experience cannot say to everyone that it's still save to drive at temp max. because of what wklow unfortunate events, he pay the price ady.

but usually people will not learn until it happen to himself. #fact

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post Sep 7 2019, 02:23 PM

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Quick question to those who have dealt with Puspakom before. If u change the exhaust header, will it fail the test? Selling my Persona
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post Sep 7 2019, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 7 2019, 08:57 AM)
your car engine still running fine lor. that's how to know.

if gasket kong, your car cannot start, stranded kena tow.

your case is you are lucky, unlike others, that's all.

your lucky experience cannot say to everyone that it's still save to drive at temp max. because of what wklow unfortunate events, he pay the price ady.

but usually people will not learn until it happen to himself. #fact
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i thought if cylinder head gasket fail, there should be tell-tale signs instead of engine straight cannot start? something like milo color engine coolant, engine misfiring etc. if do engine compression test can tell or not? i dunno, just random guessing based on lowyat /k lepak experience. biggrin.gif

tho my previous message is not intended to show-off my luck, it's more my worried anything damaged is already done on my engine without showing obvious signs..
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post Sep 7 2019, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 7 2019, 09:03 PM)
i thought if cylinder head gasket fail, there should be tell-tale signs instead of engine straight cannot start? something like milo color engine coolant, engine misfiring etc. if do engine compression test can tell or not? i dunno, just random guessing based on lowyat /k lepak experience. biggrin.gif

tho my previous message is not intended to show-off my luck, it's more my worried anything damaged is already done on my engine without showing obvious signs..
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what i explain is the sign. what you say is the end result.

like in the internet say, once continue driving with max temp, you will heard engine bloww and you car will stop. then it will be too late. bye bye engine, hello top overhaul.

if you concern about your engine condition, please check with your mech. actually you should already ask the mech before this about the engine condition when you reach max temp.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Sep 7 2019, 11:54 PM
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post Sep 10 2019, 03:40 AM

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Hi old birds, I’m intend to buy a proton persona 2009 h-line from my friend, it has 140k+ mileage and it looks quite new from outside to inside as he seldom drive it.

But there is rattling sound from engine when we open the hood. My friend said it was the IAFM Campro engine valve noise which is common and not an issue, after he consult a mechanic few years ago. He also said the max speed is 150kmh on highway only. He is a super slow driver so he didn’t care.

As I confirmed to buy from him, just asking does anyone know what’s the issues and cost to solve it? Thanks

Here is video for the sound.
https://youtu.be/94HuzcwetQs
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post Sep 10 2019, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(litlit @ Sep 10 2019, 03:40 AM)
Hi old birds, I’m intend to buy a proton persona 2009 h-line from my friend, it has 140k+ mileage and it looks quite new from outside to inside as he seldom drive it.

But there is rattling sound from engine when we open the hood. My friend said it was the IAFM Campro engine valve noise which is common and not an issue, after he consult a mechanic few years ago. He also said the max speed is 150kmh on highway only. He is a super slow driver so he didn’t care.

As I confirmed to buy from him, just asking does anyone know what’s the issues and cost to solve it? Thanks

Here is video for the sound.
https://youtu.be/94HuzcwetQs
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The IAFM is there to improve low speed fuel economy compared to non IAFM model. So if your IAFM valve spoil already, as in this case, it will not affect highway speed or FC but your city driving will be affected as per lower torque (pick up in my terms) per rpm.

New IAFM unit cost about 500++ in material alone currently. However you can bring it to shop like Zordaq (Google it up, they got a few shop throughout Malaysia) that can repair the loosen IAFM butterfly shaft for less than RM100. But then if the shaft of broken then there's no way to get it fixed without replacing it.
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post Sep 10 2019, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 10 2019, 08:30 AM)
The IAFM is there to improve low speed fuel economy compared to non IAFM model. So if your IAFM valve spoil already, as in this case, it will not affect highway speed or FC but your city driving will be affected as per lower torque (pick up in my terms) per rpm.

New IAFM unit cost about 500++ in material alone currently. However you can bring it to shop like Zordaq (Google it up, they got a few shop throughout Malaysia) that can repair the loosen IAFM butterfly shaft for less than RM100. But then if the shaft of broken then there's no way to get it fixed without replacing it.
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Thanks for the advise. Will try to consult Zordap.
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post Sep 11 2019, 05:36 PM

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This month really spend a lot on my persona.
Oil sump also need change due to oil leaking, really bangwall.gif
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post Sep 11 2019, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 6 2019, 05:32 PM)
My mechanic once told me to be very careful of the temperature. If overheated , the engine block is made of aluminium and it will be disfigured , even u do overhaul also still will hv overheating issues. Hv to change the whole engine
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Campro engine block is cast iron, not aluminium.

Cast iron generally more resistant to permanent damage when overheat, compared to aluminium.
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post Sep 11 2019, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Sep 11 2019, 05:36 PM)
This month really spend a lot on my persona.
Oil sump also need change due to oil leaking, really  bangwall.gif
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Oil sump pecah or the tightening nut area leaking? If latter then you can add washer and retighten it. Works on my car so now my engine oil change is using suction method.
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post Sep 11 2019, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 11 2019, 07:57 PM)
Oil sump pecah or the tightening nut area leaking? If latter then you can add washer and retighten it. Works on my car so now my engine oil change is using suction method.
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Ya, previously use washer nut, and suction method.
But now, too serious d, just change it lar rclxub.gif
iskazulka
post Sep 12 2019, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Sep 11 2019, 11:47 PM)
Ya, previously use washer nut, and suction method.
But now, too serious d, just change it lar rclxub.gif
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cost how much?
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post Sep 12 2019, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 12 2019, 10:18 AM)
cost how much?
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The mechanic quoted 340 for the oil sump, workmanship 140.
Later I go buy myself, 160 then he charge me workmanship 220, got this type of rule one meh, must use their part only workmanship cheaper~~ mad.gif
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post Sep 12 2019, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Sep 12 2019, 10:38 AM)
The mechanic quoted 340 for the oil sump, workmanship 140.
Later I go buy myself, 160 then he charge me workmanship 220, got this type of rule one meh, must use their part only workmanship cheaper~~ mad.gif
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you unlucky go to workshop like that. are you familiar with the workshop before this? if yes, i think you can kaotim with them.

btw, i go to my preferred workshop, i just use spare part supplied by them.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Sep 12 2019, 12:31 PM
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post Sep 16 2019, 06:38 PM

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if my persona is high line, but people at pos laju put variant base line.

Would my claims be affected?
anakMY
post Sep 17 2019, 12:30 PM

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Just done repairing IAFM unit, I’m not sure what my foreman did, he say he do some modification , no more tak tak sound and air leaking sound. Engine become smoother and more power at low speeds.

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