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post Nov 16 2011, 01:43 PM, updated 14y ago

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For more info visit the gaythering thread here.

FAQs

Employments:
Job opportunities are still good. Those with higher education level/experience stand a better chance and command a higher starting pay. Good command of English in resume writing or interview is a huge benefit. The following are the list of available online job sites:
1. Jobstreet
2. Contact Singapore
3. Jobs Central
4. JobsDB
5. eFinancialCareers.sg

The most effective but expensive method is to do it the old fashion way. Come over to Singapore, and then extend your visa to long term. During your stay in SG, flip through the recruitment newspaper and apply for your job through the company itself. This way, you're almost guaranteed to be in front of the queue from those who applied through Jobstreet. You can also attend their interviews without any delays while you're here in SG.

Various employment passes are available to enable you to work in Singapore depending on your skills and pay. Employers will help you in the application of passes. Your job is however pending on the approval of the pass. Information of types of passes are available through MOM's website. Do not worry of what passes you get. Eventually all will allow you to work in SG. Some do fuss about it due to "status" and extra benefits (i.e: credit card and contract phone applications). Just be hardworking and move up the passes or apply directly for PR few years down the road.

All you need to know about PR application and requirements are available here: http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150

Please take note that ex Singaporean PRs who renounced their status without serving the National Service will have their job and employment pass applications greatly degraded.

For an idea of current payscales (finance), here's Morgan McKinley's Singapore Salary Guide 2011.
Robert Walters Salary Survey 2011

CPF and Taxes:
Malaysians working under employment/work passes are exempted from paying CPF. Singapore PRs have to contribute to CPF according to the rates found here: http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Gen-Info/C...es/ContriRa.htm

As for the complicated tax returns, i'll just provide the website so everyone can search under their own categories. http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page01.aspx?id=88

Accomodations:
HDBs everywhere! Prime and new areas should cost around SGD600 and above per room (with or without utilities). You can still find small & cramped sub-SGD400 per room in remote or rundown areas. If you can afford the luxury, apartments and condos are the way to go. SGD1000 onwards per room is the current market price. Normally comes with swimming pool and gym facilities.

Below are some useful sites:
http://www.flatsdb.com/
http://www.hdbflat.blogspot.com/
http://singapore.roomsdb.net/
http://easyroommate.com.sg/ (looks more like a dating site )
http://www.sg-house.com/
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/

Transportation:
No need to describe any further. Been compared and discussed too many times between SG and MY. In SG, you can be anywhere in the island just by using public transport. The all too convenient EZ link card can be used in both MRT and bus (even McD yeah!). For places out of reach, taxi is the answer. Don't worry, you won't get touted with expensive fares. They are a bunch of professionals with accurate meters. First entry onto cab is SGD2.80 or SGD3.00. The rest runs on meter plus any surcharges from tolls, airport surcharge or stopping period. If you are travelling in group of 4, taxi is the cheaper option on certain routes compared to others.

Coach: http://www.journeymalaysia.com/ptasingapore.htm
SBS bus maps: http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/iris3/nextbus.aspx
MRT maps: http://www.smrt.com.sg/trains/images/tn_networkmap_big.jpg
Directions: http://gothere.sg/maps or http://maps.google.com.sg/

Malaysians can drive in cars/bikes to work in SG. For SG PRs, you have to drive singapore registered vehicles. More info here: http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matters/ind...oring_guide.htm

Expenses:
This is very subjective depending on the spending power of different individuals. But here are the basic breakdowns on rough estimates:
1. Accoms SGD600 (varies)
2. Food SGD500 (varies)
3. Transport SGD60
4. Entertainment SGD300 (strip it off if wanna save)
5. Shopping $$$

TO CHECK FOR YOUR PR APPLICATION STATUS, KINDLY VISIT THIS LINK
https://ienquiry.ica.gov.sg/index.do

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hi minyak wangi, i think you need to update the accommodation price a little bit. nowadays, $600 u hardly find a decent room.


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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 16 2011, 02:03 PM)
hi minyak wangi, i think you need to update the accommodation price a little bit. nowadays, $600 u hardly find a decent room.
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Can. share room lar. 2 person share 1 room.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 16 2011, 02:03 PM)
hi minyak wangi, i think you need to update the accommodation price a little bit. nowadays, $600 u hardly find a decent room.

QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 16 2011, 02:20 PM)
Can. share room lar. 2 person share 1 room.

Well I updated the prices for like 1 person 1 room. The hairdressing salon I went to the other day, the hair-washer lady (Malaysian) was 3 ppl sharing one master room. Didn't ask how much she was paying though.

Anyway, one of my friends here (early 30's, M'sian, SPR) got accepted a couple months ago to SIA's Cadet Pilot program, & he's in ground school right now. So even SIA hires foreigners!
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 16 2011, 02:57 PM)
Well I updated the prices for like 1 person 1 room. The hairdressing salon I went to the other day, the hair-washer lady (Malaysian) was 3 ppl sharing one master room. Didn't ask how much she was paying though.

Anyway, one of my friends here (early 30's, M'sian, SPR) got accepted a couple months ago to SIA's Cadet Pilot program, & he's in ground school right now. So even SIA hires foreigners!
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My younger brother works for SIA and not only malaysians are hired, indons, koreans, japanese and indian nationals are hired as well but in limited quantities but thats gonna change since the younger generation of singaporeans are picky and generally dont like being in the service line.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 16 2011, 02:57 PM)
Well I updated the prices for like 1 person 1 room. The hairdressing salon I went to the other day, the hair-washer lady (Malaysian) was 3 ppl sharing one master room. Didn't ask how much she was paying though.

Anyway, one of my friends here (early 30's, M'sian, SPR) got accepted a couple months ago to SIA's Cadet Pilot program, & he's in ground school right now. So even SIA hires foreigners!
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my brother was offered this program back in 2004, but that stupid fella chose to study computer in UM rather than the SIA offer.
now he see me working in Singapore, he say he wants to work here as well. really vomit blood.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 16 2011, 03:00 PM)
My younger brother works for SIA and not only malaysians are hired, indons, koreans, japanese and indian nationals are hired as well but in limited quantities but thats gonna change since the younger generation of singaporeans are picky and generally dont like being in the service line.
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Then in this case, just curious, what line do they want to be in as Service line is one of Singapore's bread and butter.

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Nov 16 2011, 03:25 PM)
Then in this case, just curious, what line do they want to be in as Service line is one of Singapore's bread and butter.
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They want to be the "Fat Cat" who sits behind the desk in the comfort of an air conditioned environment, ordering their subordinates while telling themselves, "Yes, i've made it".
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 16 2011, 03:12 PM)
my brother was offered this program back in 2004, but that stupid fella chose to study computer in UM rather than the SIA offer.
now he see me working in Singapore, he say he wants to work here as well. really vomit blood.
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Bad decision? maybe.
Stupid? I doubt it.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 16 2011, 04:04 PM)
They want to be the "Fat Cat" who sits behind the desk in the comfort of an air conditioned environment, ordering their subordinates while telling themselves, "Yes, i've made it".
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sux, u just describe me, but they call me "fat pig" sweat.gif sweat.gif


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QUOTE(52kitkat @ Nov 16 2011, 04:18 PM)
Bad decision? maybe.
Stupid? I doubt it.
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care to elaborate further rolleyes.gif ?

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the Morgan McKinley's guide in first post is more for finance people, here is a more detail link :

http://www.robertwalters.com.sg/career-adv...ary-survey.html


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 16 2011, 02:57 PM)
Anyway, one of my friends here (early 30's, M'sian, SPR) got accepted a couple months ago to SIA's Cadet Pilot program, & he's in ground school right now. So even SIA hires foreigners!
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the problem with that program, is that they have too many trainees that successfully completed the program, but there is no enough position in the cockpit area for them. My colleague has a friend that got stuck in this kinda situation. He finished the program but now he's still waiting for his number to join the crews.. The wait has been almost 1 year..
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thailand pays lot than sg.

http://www.robertwalters.com.sg/files/sala...survey-2011.pdf
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 16 2011, 09:20 PM)
Not if you use the current exchange rate. Unless I'm reading it wrong - according to the survey, a CFO only earns THB3 million per annum. That's less than what most of my accounting managers in Singapore get. Actually that's less than what the accounting manager in our Bangkok office gets.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 16 2011, 09:20 PM)
thailand pays lot than sg.

eh, FX rate lah. 1THB = 0.04SGD something like that.
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who wants to buy firstcoach ticket back to malaysia during CNY, u can buy now at their website... still have alots of seats...
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:30 AM)
who wants to buy firstcoach ticket back to malaysia during CNY, u can buy now at their website... still have alots of seats...
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overloaded..wont load!!
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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Nov 17 2011, 12:37 AM)
overloaded..wont load!!
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i have no problem to login now...
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[quote=Walaoeh!,Nov 17 2011, 12:39 AM]
i have no problem to login now...
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Can login...but i got this wor

Due to overwhelming demand, our server is currently experiencing some congestion. Please try again later. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:30 AM)
who wants to buy firstcoach ticket back to malaysia during CNY, u can buy now at their website... still have alots of seats...
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got meh... how to buy?
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emr.. i have no problem log in and out woh...
maybe jz now i keep refresh many times, then after 100 times refresh, my ip address is allow to go in laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:43 AM)
emr.. i have no problem log in and out woh...
maybe jz now i keep refresh many times, then after 100 times refresh, my ip address is allow to go in laugh.gif
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Like i've said i've got NO problem trying to login.....after logging in i get that
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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Nov 17 2011, 12:41 AM)

i have no problem to login now...
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Can login...but i got this wor

Due to overwhelming demand, our server is currently experiencing some congestion. Please try again later. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
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same doh.gif

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Nov 17 2011, 12:45 AM)
Like i've said i've got NO problem trying to login.....after logging in i get that
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i meant i have no problem to choose bus time, seats and pay lah...

initially i got same message oso since 12:00am, then after 10 mins continuous refresh, i dun see tat message anymore...

which bus time u want? i can help u to check.. laugh.gif
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6.30pm tues 17th?novena-bangsar
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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Nov 17 2011, 12:48 AM)
6.30pm tues 17th?novena-bangsar
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The selection yields no result, please try to search other trip.

still not open i think...

jz now i see the plaza-subang oso same.. after awhile then can liao..

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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:50 AM)
The selection yields no result, please try to search other trip.

still not open i think...
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so its for travelling dates between 19th jan to 31st jan lor?
u just registered an account with them or how?
Y i still get that stupid congestion page
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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Nov 17 2011, 12:51 AM)
so its for travelling dates between 19th jan to 31st jan lor?
u just registered an account with them or how?
Y i still get that stupid congestion page
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jz now i see the plaza-subang oso same.. after awhile then can liao..

jz keep try refresh it... it works for me.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:52 AM)
jz now i see the plaza-subang oso same.. after awhile then can liao..

jz keep try refresh it... it works for me.. brows.gif
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U refresh the page on this link right?
http://www.firstcoach.com.my/fcweb10c/loginmain.php
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looks like their server only allow certain ip at same time to go in...

the rest jz show them the stupid message...


Added on November 17, 2011, 12:55 am
QUOTE(tailtwist @ Nov 17 2011, 12:53 AM)
U refresh the page on this link right?
http://www.firstcoach.com.my/fcweb10c/loginmain.php
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yup...

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the website is stuck now... zzz, i thihk back to msia i use larkin liao...
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:54 AM)
looks like their server only allow certain ip at same time to go in...

the rest jz show them the stupid message...


Added on November 17, 2011, 12:55 am
yup...
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dont think so ler..i try via my VPN also getting that same stupid message....
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use firefox, download this add-on:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reloadevery/

then let it auto reload http://www.firstcoach.com.my/fcweb10c/loginmain.php in 5 seconds

then go drink coffee, once u able to see the choose bus page, then u can slowly buy...
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 17 2011, 12:57 AM)
use firefox, download this add-on:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reloadevery/

then let it auto reload http://www.firstcoach.com.my/fcweb10c/loginmain.php in 5 seconds

then go drink coffee, once u able to see the choose bus page, then u can slowly buy...
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that page now doesnt even load now...looks like its down


Added on November 17, 2011, 1:00 amgive up...good morning ppl...time to ZZZ

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 16 2011, 04:04 PM)
They want to be the "Fat Cat" who sits behind the desk in the comfort of an air conditioned environment, ordering their subordinates while telling themselves, "Yes, i've made it".
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That's the position that everyone aspires to be.

Who in their right mind wishes to be waiting on others for life?
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http://www.soshiok.com/critic/article/16565

Kong Kee fries the best KL Hokkien mee in Singapore

Kong Kee Seafood Restaurant
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Opens: Daily 11am to 1am
Tel: 6443-8221 to make a reservation

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 17 2011, 11:16 AM)
http://www.soshiok.com/critic/article/16565

Kong Kee fries the best KL Hokkien mee in Singapore

Kong Kee Seafood Restaurant
611 Lor 31 Geylang
Singapore 389550
Opens: Daily 11am to 1am
Tel: 6443-8221 to make a reservation

rclxms.gif  congrats ..

for claypot rice  nod.gif

http://www.geylangclaypot.com/
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I went and tried the Happy Crab you recommended opposite, damn shiok thumbup.gif Love the crab roe!

Kong Kee is kinda expensive though, so never went there.

BTW, I went to Takashimaya's cold section for sushi... so good and fresh and cheap, now I wish I am staying in Singapore so I can have it whenever I want drool.gif
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anyone here ever experienced taking train from KL to Singapore or vise versa? I ve checked the price it's much more cheaper than the prices for air tickets...not too sure y most ppl prefer to travel by bus..
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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Nov 17 2011, 11:31 AM)
Kong Kee is kinda expensive though, so never went there.
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yes expensive compare to kl sweat.gif
mainly for those who dun frequent back to kl rolleyes.gif

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anyone here ever experienced taking train from KL to Singapore or vise versa? I ve checked the price it's much more cheaper than the prices for air tickets...not too sure y most  ppl prefer to travel by bus..
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Its slow and noisy. That's the reason.
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QUOTE(jewellyjew @ Nov 17 2011, 11:36 AM)
anyone here ever experienced taking train from KL to Singapore or vise versa? I ve checked the price it's much more cheaper than the prices for air tickets...not too sure y most  ppl prefer to travel by bus..
Because the train is slow... quite a few stops. And the frequency of buses and flexibility of pick up/drop off points is much higher.

Besides, KTM now stops in JB. Tg Pagar has been returned to the SG govt.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 17 2011, 01:07 PM)
Because the train is slow... quite a few stops. And the frequency of buses and flexibility of pick up/drop off points is much higher.

Besides, KTM now stops in JB. Tg Pagar has been returned to the SG govt.
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thanks for your info.. But I heard that there is a new station called Woodland CIQ somewhere nearby the boundary of Sg?

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QUOTE(jewellyjew @ Nov 17 2011, 02:28 PM)
thanks for your info.. But I heard that there is a new station called Woodland CIQ somewhere nearby the boundary of Sg?
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its a hub... there's the customs check point for cars, bikes and buses as well as for trains... there's a mrt station too... and starbucks, northern area of singapore...
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 17 2011, 02:37 PM)
its a hub... there's the customs check point for cars, bikes and buses as well as for trains... there's a mrt station too... and starbucks, northern area of singapore...
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Erm...the train hub does not have an MRT station yet.
You can take buses to mrt, I suppose the nearest is Marsiling (not sure about the other direction) laugh.gif laugh.gif .
I heard that it will be moved to near Causeway Point (woodlands MRT) which is has ongoing renovation.

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QUOTE(jewellyjew @ Nov 17 2011, 11:36 AM)
anyone here ever experienced taking train from KL to Singapore or vise versa? I ve checked the price it's much more cheaper than the prices for air tickets...not too sure y most  ppl prefer to travel by bus..
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you need to have the TIME.

I love to take train when I have the time. I went the the old tanjung pagar mamak for supper then took the mid night train to KL, 7am reach KL just nice for breakfast. Now you have to board from Woodland (pay SGD) or JB (~ same number but in RM).

You pass the SG and MY custom check in woodland, once on the train you can sleep will KL.

train is safer than bus.



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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 17 2011, 06:22 PM)
you need to have the TIME.

I love to take train when I have the time. I went the the old tanjung pagar mamak for supper then took the mid night train to KL, 7am reach KL just nice for breakfast. Now you have to board from Woodland (pay SGD) or JB (~ same number but in RM).

You pass the SG and MY custom check in woodland, once on the train you can sleep will KL.

train is safer than bus.
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Icic..thanks for ur info..

Will there be any taxis available to go to the city area after passing through the Sg and MY custom check in Woodland CIQ? As I have scheduled for an interview at 830am in the city..I m afraid that I might not be able to reach on time if I were to travel by MRT or bus....thankss
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QUOTE(jewellyjew @ Nov 17 2011, 06:58 PM)
Icic..thanks for ur info..

Will there be any taxis available to go to the city area after passing through the Sg and MY custom check in Woodland CIQ? As I have scheduled for an interview at 830am in the city..I m afraid that I might not be able to reach on time if I were to travel by MRT or bus....thankss
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there is a taxi stand just as you come out from the CIQ building.


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Its slow and noisy. That's the reason.
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Their still running the trains from singapore to malaysia? thought it was closed down or something.

Plus i heard the trains are very dirty and you can actually see cockroaches running around in the cabins.
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The last train I took was the ETS from KL Sentral to Ipoh. Actually not too bad. Spacious, comfy seat, new and clean (get it while it's hot, cos after a few years, it'll be dirty and decayed like every racially and politically managed service in Malaysia), fast (top speed was 141kmh on that day) and good NV suppression (noise, vibration). Also don't have the irritating "kang-kang" every xx meters due to the expansion joints.
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QUOTE(jewellyjew @ Nov 17 2011, 11:36 AM)
anyone here ever experienced taking train from KL to Singapore or vise versa? I ve checked the price it's much more cheaper than the prices for air tickets...not too sure y most  ppl prefer to travel by bus..
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i never took train from m'sia to s'pore so i dont have the experience. but from kl to haadyai i did before, fyi...time will be longer and always stop stop stop along the destination. some ppl still prefer bus because the place they stay might not have the same route with ktm which they might need to take taxi or bus for the de-tour. if air-plane ticket is cheap and affordable, why not take plane to save the time, right?
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I always take sleeping couch when travelling in train - at night (KL-SG, KL-PG) Never take intercity train in the broad day light before. Have not taken KL-SG train since the closure of Tanjung Pagar.
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please inform me by PM because 1 of my friend looking for this job>.<


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sienz, last flight again out of sg, worst is,  row 30  doh.gif
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I got offered a job situated in Science Park Drive. Now looking for a room to rent somewhere nearby that area. Any recommendations> My budget is till $500 only
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Pros - safe, better values, convenient & strong currency. Cons - no life, non-citizen, high expenses, stay in pigeon hole, public transport.
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why no life?

why non citizen?

why high expenses?

why stay pigeon hole?

why public transport?

if you make enough... all those on top is not a problem...
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singapore driver is bad.

and the travel company just leaves the hand.

http://www.zaobao.com/sp/sp111113_014.shtml


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singapore driver is bad.

and the travel company just leaves the hand.

http://www.zaobao.com/sp/sp111113_014.shtml


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"and the travel company just leaves the hand."

Come again?
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"and the travel company just leaves the hand."

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imma guess it means letting it go
and take no responsibility?
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I think he means the accident was so bad that the driver's hand was severed and his employer, the travel agency just left it there at the accident scene for the csi to find.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 19 2011, 12:36 PM)
singapore driver is bad.

and the travel company just leaves the hand.

http://www.zaobao.com/sp/sp111113_014.shtml


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I think he means the accident was so bad that the driver's hand was severed and his employer, the travel agency just left it there at the accident scene for the csi to find.
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i'm actually thinking about the same thing rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 20 2011, 08:57 AM)
I think he means the accident was so bad that the driver's hand was severed and his employer, the travel agency just left it there at the accident scene for the csi to find.

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Nov 20 2011, 10:12 AM)
i'm actually thinking about the same thing  rclxms.gif

oh yucks ... that's hella disgusting


QUOTE(Candy Cat @ Nov 19 2011, 09:41 AM)
Pros - safe, better values, convenient & strong currency. Cons - no life, non-citizen, high expenses, stay in pigeon hole, public transport.

Of your list, I only really feel that the public transport vs private (car) transport affects me, and even then only when I try to do a cab booking and they say sorry sir no taxi available.

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QUOTE(totti 10 @ Nov 20 2011, 02:53 AM)
imma guess it means letting it go
and take no responsibility?
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this is what I mean.
2 people died and the victims had to pay all the hospitalisation fees around 2k/day.
My english is very bad yucks.. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 20 2011, 08:58 PM)
this is what I mean.
2 people died and the victims had to pay all the hospitalisation fees around 2k/day.
How in the world did you think that we would associate "leaves the hand" with "taking no responsibility"?

Your English there wasn't bad. It was actually bizarre rather than bad.

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you said thailand has less salary than sg..but you know the cost of living there cheaper than malaysia?? ecen food price is cheaper than china.. Let's become expat in thailand
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 20 2011, 11:57 PM)
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you said thailand has less salary than sg..but you know the cost of living there cheaper than malaysia?? ecen food price is cheaper than china.. Let's become expat in thailand
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What's your definition of expat?
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 21 2011, 06:47 AM)
Then Indon, Bangla and any non SG worker also an expat here.

IMO, have to factor in the position and pay package.


The one big motivation to work in SG is : converting our SGD saving back to RM.

I only eat that much and most of my meal <$10, how much can I save if I work in Thai?
Is it enough to offset the currency and salary (thus the saving) differences?
I do not speak/read Thai, so will I get a lower salary compare to my peer?



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you said thailand has less salary than sg..but you know the cost of living there cheaper than malaysia?? ecen food price is cheaper than china.. Let's become expat in thailand
How much of your salary do you spend on "cost of living"? Discretionery stuff that you buy (like gadgets etc) are not cheaper.

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I think i can relate to that leave hands term because
in Malay there is a term
"lepas tangan" which also means takes no responsibility
kinda the same in a way
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 21 2011, 10:08 AM)
Then Indon, Bangla and any non SG worker also an expat here.

IMO, have to factor in the position and pay package.
The one big motivation to work in SG is : converting our SGD saving back to RM.

I only eat that much and most of my meal <$10, how much can I save if I work in Thai?
Is it enough to offset the currency and salary (thus the saving) differences?
I do not speak/read Thai, so will I get a lower salary compare to my peer?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate
"In its broadest sense, an expatriate is any person living in a different country from where he or she is a citizen. In common usage, the term is often used in the context of professionals sent abroad by their companies, as opposed to locally hired staff (who can also be foreigners). The differentiation found in common usage usually comes down to socio-economic factors, so skilled professionals working in another country are described as expatriates, whereas a manual labourer who has moved to another country to earn more money might be labelled an 'immigrant'."

so indon, bangla are considered 'immigrant' biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 21 2011, 11:47 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate
"In its broadest sense, an expatriate is any person living in a different country from where he or she is a citizen. In common usage, the term is often used in the context of professionals sent abroad by their companies, as opposed to locally hired staff (who can also be foreigners). The differentiation found in common usage usually comes down to socio-economic factors, so skilled professionals working in another country are described as expatriates, whereas a manual labourer who has moved to another country to earn more money might be labelled an 'immigrant'."

so indon, bangla are considered 'immigrant' biggrin.gif
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Actually am very interesting to join this line of work, but too bad am at a different industry, project engineer for process gas piping for semi cond industry, doesn't have the time to learn all this at all, plan to read up the ASMI B31.3 Process Piping but dunno is it useful or not.

Besides that my salary, I would say is overpaid compared to my technical knowledge, so kind of difficult to join oil and gas industry. Any advice?


So you just manage the work flow for installing, repair etc in regards to piping?

So you have no prior knowledge of ASME B31.3 process piping eventhough your in charge of that area? You even got ASME wrong, aduhai.

Like this you have it easy since i need to cover your area as well as structures.

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What if your a malaysian but you work as a kitchen helper? still consider as "immigrant status"?


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different ppl with different definition can call it different thing mah...

for me i dun fxxking care... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 21 2011, 11:01 AM)
What if your a malaysian but you work as a kitchen helper? still consider as "immigrant status"?


Added on November 21, 2011, 12:18 pm

So you just manage the work flow for installing, repair etc in regards to piping?

So you have no prior knowledge of ASME B31.3 process piping eventhough your in charge of that area? You even got ASME wrong, aduhai.

Like this you have it easy since i need to cover your area as well as structures.
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Yeah I have an easy life actually, because we use orbital welding in gas piping for semicon industry. Nothing technical sigh.
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 21 2011, 01:24 PM)
different ppl with different definition can call it different thing mah...

for me i dun fxxking care... laugh.gif
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Yeah I have an easy life actually, because we use orbital welding in gas piping for semicon industry. Nothing technical sigh.
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Its very technical if your a welding inspector since you pre-approve the welding procedure required for a particular item. You guys using SAW or TIG for your orbital welds?

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zzz... i am always an alien immigrant... the same while i was in us, the same now... kuli's life is difficult..
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zzz... i am always an alien immigrant... the same while i was in us, the same now... kuli's life is difficult..
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You can become "Last of the meheccans". Anybody read the news about the deaths at the SEA games?

After that shiat, the sports minister of malaysia made this comment

"Why is it that they reserve such hatred for us? Why not Thailand? Why not others? It is not because of the perceived maltreatment of Indonesians locally.In my opinion, it is because opposition leaders have been making a bee line for Indonesia to bad mouth our country," said the minister.



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In my opinion, it is because opposition leaders have been making a bee line for Indonesia to bad mouth our country," said the minister.

doh.gif ...

i suppose i shouldn't be surprised at anything that comes out of our ministers' mouths by now though.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 19 2011, 12:36 PM)
singapore driver is bad.

and the travel company just leaves the hand.

http://www.zaobao.com/sp/sp111113_014.shtml


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I think what he mean is 撒手不管 in chinese. smile.gif
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http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/M...122-311871.html

Statistics by the National Registration Department showed that between 2009 until Oct 15 this year, Vietnamese women continued to make up more than 30% of the foreign brides.Women from China and Indonesia are second and third on the list of preferred brides with an average of 26% and 15% respectively. Others are from Thailand, the Philippines, Myanmar and India.




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Viet brides hot commodities  thumbup.gif

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/M...122-311871.html

Statistics by the National Registration Department showed that between 2009 until Oct 15 this year, Vietnamese women continued to make up more than 30% of the foreign brides.Women from China and Indonesia are second and third on the list of preferred brides with an average of 26% and 15% respectively. Others are from Thailand, the Philippines, Myanmar and India.
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Suxiest reporting in..
Working in Sales line... at Bugis.
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Hello to All senior working in SG.

Just wanted to ask about some internet connection problem, I sign up a phone package smartsurf 300 with 12gb monthly data plan. But one of the things make me very confuse is what mean by [Unlimited @ $30/mth (No Bill Shock) ] for their data plan isn't they mean I only can exceed the internet usage for SGD30, and after I reach the limit they will disconnect me? Coz i planning not to sign another contract for additional broadband for my laptop, if after 30sgd I still can continue using internet they I will just need to pay another 30 per month, rather that sign another contract to lock myself 2 years.

Thank you.
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hello, newbie here

where is the bus station that bus will stop for route MY-SG??

and how to make call to SG from MY? +65 or +02?? help here
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hello, newbie here

where is the bus station that bus will stop for route MY-SG??

and how to make call to SG from MY? +65 or +02?? help here
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1.MY - Woodlands CIQ - Golden Mile Tower(nearest Mrt station-Lavender/Bugis MRT station)

2.
+65 XXXX XXXX

or

02 XXXX XXXX
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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Nov 22 2011, 12:52 PM)
Hello to All senior working in SG.

Just wanted to ask about some internet connection problem,  I sign up a phone package smartsurf 300 with 12gb monthly data plan. But one of the things make me very confuse is what mean by [Unlimited @ $30/mth (No Bill Shock) ] for their data plan isn't they mean I only can exceed the internet usage for SGD30, and after I reach the limit they will disconnect me? Coz i planning not to sign another contract for additional broadband for my laptop, if after 30sgd I still can continue using internet they I will just need to pay another 30 per month, rather that sign another contract to lock myself 2 years.

Thank you.
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it means after u finish ur 12GB of data you will be charged for the amt extra u use but it is capped at 30SGD.
So if your plan is SGD58, the max you will be paying is 58+30 (-corporate plan+hidden charges) +7% GST.

QUOTE(subrok007 @ Nov 22 2011, 01:10 PM)
and how to make call to SG from MY? +65 or +02?? help here
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+65 definitely works.
I did not know there is a +02.
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+65 is it a hand phone line? the 02 is local line?

if i wan to call local line how using hand phone? need "+"?
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Nov 22 2011, 02:57 PM)
+65 is it a hand phone line? the 02 is local line?

if i wan to call local line how using hand phone? need "+"?
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I use +65 for land line too.
So I still do not know where the 02 comes from. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Handphones numbers I noticed are 8xxx xxxx or 9xxx xxxx while land lines are 6xxx xxxx
To make a call from m'sia, just press +65 followed by the 8 digit number was what I did.
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ok crazy25kid bro,

thanks ya for the information... i will try that... icon_rolleyes.gif

another thing is our bus from MY will stop at Golden Mile Tower?
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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 22 2011, 03:45 PM)
I use +65 for land line too.
So I still do not know where the 02 comes from.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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last time to call singapore u use 02 for singapore like 04 for penang 05 for ipoh
i guess it might still work if on hp use the malaysia country code +602- xxxx xxxx sweat.gif

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owh this is a new thing
so its safe to assume 02 is only for the fixed line not for hp
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any staff discount can share ?  rolleyes.gif
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Cheap labor like me , not entitled for staff discount~
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Nov 22 2011, 03:52 PM)
ok crazy25kid bro,

thanks ya for the information... i will try that... icon_rolleyes.gif

another thing is our bus from MY will stop at Golden Mile Tower?
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Not necessary.
Best to ask the counter when you buy tix.
Some have a final stop at diff places....some has extra stops....some get off at immigration (I get off at woodlands laugh.gif laugh.gif )

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last time to call singapore u use 02 for singapore like 04 for penang 05 for ipoh
i guess it might still work if on hp use the malaysia country code +602- xxxx xxxx  sweat.gif
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owh this is a new thing
so its safe to assume 02 is only for the fixed line not for hp
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it means after u finish ur 12GB of data you will be charged for the amt extra u use but it is capped at 30SGD.
So if your plan is SGD58, the max you will be paying is 58+30 (-corporate plan+hidden charges) +7% GST.
+65 definitely works.
I did not know there is a +02.
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Erm, what I want to ask if, if I exceed the limit and reach the SGD30 dollar cap, can I still continue connect to internet? For example sgd 30 is for 800mb data, but what I wan is more that 800mb exceed, so can I still connect to internet if I using the data more that the cap 30 limit can give me (800mb). Or I will enjoy unlimited access when I pay the 30sgd. Hope U can understand what I try to say.
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I think what he mean is 撒手不管 in chinese. smile.gif
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Just say it the Singapore way : Bo chap.

I thought they spell it as 'bochup'
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Wow v9 ad. Addition with the title of "How to save 100k in 3 years to buy HDB?" @'@
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Wow v9 ad.  Addition with the title of "How to save 100k in 3 years to buy HDB?" @'@
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I saw that too, and wishing silently, patiently for the answer. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 22 2011, 10:37 PM)
I saw that too, and wishing silently, patiently for the answer.  sweat.gif
Waiting patiently is not the answer. All you have to do is save 2800 a month in the bank and at the end of 3 years, you will have 100800. The answer is work harder, work smarter and earn enough to save 2800 a month. Waiting patiently for the answer to fall onto your lap is... blink.gif
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Waiting patiently is not the answer. All you have to do is save 2800 a month in the bank and at the end of 3 years, you will have 100800. The answer is work harder, work smarter and earn enough to save 2800 a month. Waiting patiently for the answer to fall onto your lap is...  blink.gif
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This is not a good way... U need to how to invest too... perhaps in shares to achieve that $100K faster.

Having said that, $100K (RM240K) is not much nowadays compare to property prices. A decent house in KL nowadays around RM600K or in SG is approx $350K for a family of 4 to live comfortably.

Try to target $200K in 3 years (approx $5.5K savings a month). U can achieve this amount if your company pays you about 4-6 mths bonus a year + u know some tricks...

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 23 2011, 12:44 AM)
This is not a good way... U need to how to invest too... perhaps in shares to achieve that $100K faster.
Risk and return.

Shares are a good way of MAYBE getting 100K after 3 years. But also maybe not, especially in the last 5 years or so.

Anyway, I was focusing on how to GET money, not how to invest it. You have to have money to make money.
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This term => ['You have to have money to make money '] are likely applies on investing..
However with the fixed income/salary job the only way I guess is to invest. Work is still a work for them.
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Hi everyone, newbie reporting in smile.gif

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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Nov 22 2011, 06:15 PM)
Erm, what I want to ask if, if I exceed the limit and reach the SGD30 dollar cap, can I still continue connect to internet? For example sgd 30 is for 800mb data, but what I wan is more that 800mb exceed, so can I still connect to internet if I using the data more that the cap 30 limit can give me (800mb). Or I will enjoy unlimited access when I pay the 30sgd.  Hope U can understand what I try to say.
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Yes you can still connect...that is why it is called the "No bill shock".
Unless you go dl movies/series, 12GB is not that easy to exceed. laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 23 2011, 12:44 AM)
This is not a good way... U need to how to invest too... perhaps in shares to achieve that $100K faster.

Having said that, $100K (RM240K) is not much nowadays compare to property prices. A decent house in KL nowadays around RM600K or in SG is approx $350K for a family of 4 to live comfortably.

Try to target $200K in 3 years (approx $5.5K savings a month). U can achieve this amount if your company pays you about 4-6 mths bonus a year + u know some tricks...
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you MAY also lose the 100k faster.

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 22 2011, 01:46 PM)
it means after u finish ur 12GB of data you will be charged for the amt extra u use but it is capped at 30SGD.
So if your plan is SGD58, the max you will be paying is 58+30 (-corporate plan+hidden charges) +7% GST.
+65 definitely works.
I did not know there is a +02.
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I thought they spell it as 'bochup'
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I saw that too, and wishing silently, patiently for the answer.  sweat.gif
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Assumed 100k is what you need to pay for the downpayment of your selected HDB in 3 years time;

to buy HDB you need 2 person, so split 50% 50% each person only need to save 50K in 3 years or $1389/month for the next 3 years.
Part of the downpayment can be deducted from CPF so your CPF count too, so saving $1k cash/month for 3 years should be enough for the down payment. Monthly installment is by CPF, can split 50,50 among the couple so your cash flow will be better after you move in to your HDB and stop paying rent.

Some couple use up all their money to buy HDB but still want to "show off" their new home by signing up renovation, buying furniture on credit term beyond what they can afford.. end up with card debt. No pity on them.

Good luck for those who bought the HDB during the high time not too long ago, the price is just too unrealistic and it will come down in coming years. Save your money now and wait for the right time. I bought mine at the end of economy downturn, paying much less from those who bought it before the down turn.

never believe what the agent say about the HDB price will go up forever.





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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 23 2011, 10:21 AM)
Assumed 100k is what you need to pay for the downpayment of your selected HDB in 3 years time;

to buy HDB you need 2 person, so split 50% 50% each person only need to save 50K in 3 years or $1389/month for the next 3 years.
Part of the downpayment can be deducted from CPF so your CPF count too, so saving $1k cash/month for 3 years should be enough for the down payment. Monthly installment is by CPF, can split 50,50 among the couple so your cash flow will be better after you move in to your HDB and stop paying rent.

Some couple use up all their money to buy HDB but still want to "show off" their new home by signing up renovation, buying furniture on credit term beyond what they can afford.. end up with card debt. No pity on them.

Good luck for those who bought the HDB during the high time not too long ago, the price is just too unrealistic and it will come down in coming years. Save your money now and wait for the right time. I bought mine at the end of economy downturn, paying much less from those who bought it before the down turn.   

never believe what the agent say about the HDB price will go up forever.
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Hehe...good advise for me.
Just curious, property prices are highest during bad economy?
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Hehe...good advise for me.
Just curious, property prices are highest during bad economy?
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During bad economy, ppl prefer to keep certain commodities which are not as volatile as cash such as gold, silver and property to mitigate the loss of value of said commodity.

Could ask those who have a finance background since im not and i barely passed my accounting subject during SPM.

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Hehe...good advise for me.
Just curious, property prices are highest during bad economy?
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say you commited to a $400k HDB, about $60k COV. Can you afford to lose your jobs?

What will happen to your jobs in bad economy?

How long can you last before making the hard decision to sell?
- when you MUST sell, you have less bargaining power compare to a buyer who take his time to scout for a deal.
- so can you still hope to ask for >$60k COV?
- many Singaporean and PR may not consider upgrading in bad time, they stay put or downgrade. Demand for smaller unit will rise with increase supply of larger unit.. hunt for 4~5 room flat. (those who downgrade from condo? They cant buy if they earn more than 10k/month, they are stuck)
- if majority of people goes for upgrading, hunt for a good 3 room HDB deal.

My friend got a condo at $400k, seller was burned in stock market. Market Price rise a few 100k after the seller signed paper but still in the legal process. So either you save a few 100k more to buy overpriced house or you can take your own sweet time to find a good deal.

to answer your question, property prices for different type of housing behave differently during bad economy due to supply/demand and the gov policies.

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Most expect HDB flat prices to stabilise thumbup.gif
http://business.asiaone.com/Business/News/...123-312068.html

4 or 5 people attempt suicide every day sweat.gif
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/S...123-312134.html

pity singaporean, u people come and grab their hdb
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 23 2011, 12:16 PM)
pity singaporean, u people come and grab their hdb

this morning my taxi ride to office, the taxi driver was saying he can't afford to buy house in SG so he buy in JB and every day drive over causeway to work, lol.
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this morning my taxi ride to office, the taxi driver was saying he can't afford to buy house in SG so he buy in JB and every day drive over causeway to work, lol.
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If you have flexible job hour, you can choose to drive in and out of SG. I drove in and out from SG everyday. Still cheaper than renting a room in SG.
The jam at Causeway is not so bad nowadays, the officer at custom are very efficient in directing traffic to respective lanes. On normal days it takes me 10 - 15 mins to cross
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 23 2011, 12:16 PM)
Most expect HDB flat prices to stabilise  thumbup.gif
http://business.asiaone.com/Business/News/...123-312068.html

4 or 5 people attempt suicide every day  sweat.gif
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/S...123-312134.html

pity singaporean, u people come and grab their hdb
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In order to buy HDB, you must contribute to CPF till you retire. Most of the time you will contribute more than the cost of your hdb which inturn benefit SG more than what they have put aside to build that HDB unit for you. Compare to investor who buy condo here we did not grab their HDB for free. It is a fair deal.

QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 23 2011, 12:22 PM)
this morning my taxi ride to office, the taxi driver was saying he can't afford to buy house in SG so he buy in JB and every day drive over causeway to work, lol.
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he is smart to find alternative when he face problem in SG, better than taking his own life.

However, IMO he is just BS you. A Taxi driver can earn a few K per month and they use the taxi like their own car too so they save the car ownership cost. With HDB loan, all sort of subsidy, SG bonus etc I can't believe they cant buy a 3 room HDB. We bought our unit when our income is much lower than the old ceiling limit, if we can manage it I dont see how a SG can't do it.

If you happen to see him again, please help me to get his contact. I might want to take his taxi to travel btw JB-SG.


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 23 2011, 12:22 PM)
this morning my taxi ride to office, the taxi driver was saying he can't afford to buy house in SG so he buy in JB and every day drive over causeway to work, lol.
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Actually there are a lot of taxi drivers doing that. In the morning if you take taxi, quite a number of SG taxis in MY. I heard about these stories countless of times.


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If you have flexible job hour, you can choose to drive in and out of SG. I drove in and out from SG everyday. Still cheaper than renting a room in SG.
The jam at Causeway is not so bad nowadays, the officer at custom are very efficient in directing traffic to respective lanes. On normal days it takes me 10 - 15 mins to cross
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Yesterday evening's traffic was bad. It took me about two hours to get through the causeway.

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Nov 23 2011, 02:29 PM)
Actually there are a lot of taxi drivers doing that.  In the morning if you take taxi, quite a number of SG taxis in MY.  I heard about these stories countless of times.


Added on November 23, 2011, 2:30 pm

Yesterday evening's traffic was bad.  It took me about two hours to get through the causeway.
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When too many SG Taxi appear in JB and with the current high COE price, the gov should take some action. Else you will never get enough taxi in morning rush hour.

Last sunday evening heavy rain in JB area and long jam at CIQ. I detour to tuas, take BKE back to CTE all within 1 hour.

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 23 2011, 02:36 PM)
When too many SG Taxi appear in JB and with the current high COE price, the gov should take some action. Else you will never get enough taxi in morning rush hour.

Last sunday evening heavy rain in JB area and long jam at CIQ. I detour to tuas, take BKE back to CTE all within 1 hour.
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Wow, I think today I should do that. Do you stay in JB as well?
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Wow, I think today I should do that.  Do you stay in JB as well?
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I Have a place in JB, moving there in future. I will queue up at CIQ if I have the TIME since my destination is north part of SG. The detour will cost ~s$20 more for possible saving of 1hour. It was almost 10pm and my kids have school tomorrow morning so I take the chance, lucky not much car on 2nd link.
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 23 2011, 02:51 PM)
I Have a place in JB, moving there in future. I will queue up at CIQ if I have the TIME since my destination is north part of SG. The detour will cost ~s$20 more for possible saving of 1hour. It was almost 10pm and my kids have school tomorrow morning so I take the chance, lucky not much car on 2nd link.
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The unfortunate thing about Tuas is that normally the traffic jam will begin way after the long causeway but will not be able to monitor via the traffic camera. At least for CIQ, it can be viewed. However, I think more and more people are going in daily. Now you can even see those big merc with J plate going in to work.
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 23 2011, 02:51 PM)
I Have a place in JB, moving there in future. I will queue up at CIQ if I have the TIME since my destination is north part of SG. The detour will cost ~s$20 more for possible saving of 1hour. It was almost 10pm and my kids have school tomorrow morning so I take the chance, lucky not much car on 2nd link.
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Car traffic will be very bad if you leave late. around 7pm, it is really jam until BKE Woodlands Ave 3 exit. but i ride bike, so won't affect me.
But in the morning, it really fluctuate. You need to pray everyday that those stupid lorries don't block the car lane. if they do so, to cross immigration alone take you at least 1 hour.

but riding bike is better. the time taken is very consistent. if lucky, then u cross within 20 mins. if bad luck, 30 mins. so easier to manage your time.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:19 PM)
Car traffic will be very bad if you leave late. around 7pm, it is really jam until BKE Woodlands Ave 3 exit. but i ride bike, so won't affect me.
But in the morning, it really fluctuate. You need to pray everyday that those stupid lorries don't block the car lane. if they do so, to cross immigration alone take you at least 1 hour.

but riding bike is better. the time taken is very consistent. if lucky, then u cross within 20 mins. if bad luck, 30 mins. so easier to manage your time.
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I think yesterday was really out of ordinary maybe due to the fact that it was a holiday in Johor. Can see a lot of cars with a mpv load of people in there too. Hopefully today will be better. This and yesterday morning, the traffic is very clear. So maybe today cannot hang around long and once done with job, have to leave.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 22 2011, 10:50 PM)
Waiting patiently is not the answer. All you have to do is save 2800 a month in the bank and at the end of 3 years, you will have 100800. The answer is work harder, work smarter and earn enough to save 2800 a month. Waiting patiently for the answer to fall onto your lap is...  blink.gif
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Since this is a Singapore thread, I was expecting a more "Singapore oriented" insights. I just arrived in Singapore 2 months ago. Able to save SGD 2800 a month excluding bonus. Single and non-PR -- HDB is still a dream sweat.gif Other than working hard and making sure I won't be sent back Malaysia "prematurely", I'm currently exploring Singapore investment options.
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Just wondering.. do you guys drive Msia or spore registered car? with the sky rocketing COE, it seems much cheaper to maintain a msian car now if you're not PR.
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 23 2011, 09:01 PM)
Just wondering.. do you guys drive Msia or spore registered car? with the sky rocketing COE, it seems much cheaper to maintain a msian car now if you're not PR.
Malaysian cars cannot be "maintained" (kept/parked/driven indefinitely) in Singapore.


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Since this is a Singapore thread, I was expecting a more "Singapore oriented" insights.
You're expecting Singaporeans to have special kungfu when it comes to saving money?


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is it easy to get EP if i got all the qualifications and also high salary?
How are you getting that high salary of you don't have an EP?


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QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 23 2011, 09:01 PM)
Just wondering.. do you guys drive Msia or spore registered car? with the sky rocketing COE, it seems much cheaper to maintain a msian car now if you're not PR.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 23 2011, 09:14 PM)
Malaysian cars cannot be "maintained" (kept/parked/driven indefinitely) in Singapore.


Added on November 23, 2011, 9:15 pmYou're expecting Singaporeans to have special kungfu when it comes to saving money?


Added on November 23, 2011, 9:16 pmHow are you getting that high salary of you don't have an EP?
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There is this section in LTA's website saying that a work pass holder can drive in with a foreign vehicle but,

"the vehicle is kept or used outside Singapore for a total period of 6 hours or more everyday"

http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matters/mot...de_overview.htm

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Nov 23 2011, 09:26 PM)
if you stay in JB, then i think it's worth considering now that the COE is hitting high compares to maybe 4 years back.
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I did some rough calculation. Monthly installment for a B-seg car, say a Toyota Vios in SG could cost you around $1k (9 years tenure). But the same car in Msia will just costs RM900 (~SGD 363).

After factoring the costs for daily $20 VEP and causeway toll charges which are approximately (24 * 22 days) = $480. The total cost per month is $843. Still cheaper than getting a SG registered car. Besides the Msia car gets to save on petrol, insurance, road tax, HDB parking charges... and most importantly, you can still keep the car after 10 years biggrin.gif

I'm planning to do so after my graduation since my house is in JB. No need to squeeze with others in MRT and bus smile.gif

Kindly let me know if there are any other charges which I didn't factor in. Thanks!

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QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 23 2011, 10:23 PM)
There is this section in LTA's website saying that a work pass holder can drive in with a foreign vehicle but,

"the vehicle is kept or used outside Singapore for a total period of 6 hours or more everyday"
That means its "maintained" in Malaysia lah, just like its non Singapore resident driver/owner.

b) he resides outside Singapore;
c) the vehicle is kept or used outside Singapore for a total period of 6 hours or more everyday;
d) he has a valid insurance certificate and road tax for the use of the vehicle on Singapore roads


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I am new employment under SG company and yet to get EP but already in process
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I am new employment under SG company and yet to get EP but already in proces
OK, I see. You'll get your EP when you get your EP. There are more political and social considerations these days, but if your salary is high like you say... should not be a problem. No matter what, Singapore is still trying to attract high net worth individuals.
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Since this is a Singapore thread, I was expecting a more "Singapore oriented" insights. I just arrived in Singapore 2 months ago. Able to save SGD 2800 a month excluding bonus. Single and non-PR -- HDB is still a dream  sweat.gif  Other than working hard and making sure I won't be sent back Malaysia "prematurely", I'm currently exploring Singapore investment options.
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I have many friends work in Singapore don't want to come back
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Hey guys, i wanna know which mobile and broadband plan you are using at this moment?

My current mobile plan (S$30) and broadband plan (S$80, both starhub) just finish contract, wish to renew but the offer they give me is crap (only about 100 dollar voucher or something).

Hope you guys can share with me any good mobile and broadband plan which you are currently using. smile.gif

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I have many friends work in Singapore don't want to come back

most of us posting here are working in singapore too. what's your point? hmm.gif

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Kindly let me know if there are any other charges which I didn't factor in. Thanks!

Time wasted crossing the border every day? Could be easily 1-2 hours daily depending on where you stay and where you work.
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QUOTE(tk1025 @ Nov 24 2011, 09:40 AM)
Hey guys, i wanna know which mobile and broadband plan you are using at this moment?

My current mobile plan (S$30) and broadband plan (S$80, both starhub) just finish contract, wish to renew but the offer they give me is crap (only about 100 dollar voucher or something).

Hope you guys can share with me any good mobile and broadband plan which you are currently using. smile.gif

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There is this section in LTA's website saying that a work pass holder can drive in with a foreign vehicle but,

"the vehicle is kept or used outside Singapore for a total period of 6 hours or more everyday"

http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matters/mot...de_overview.htm
I did some rough calculation. Monthly installment for a B-seg car, say a Toyota Vios in SG could cost you around $1k (9 years tenure). But the same car in Msia will just costs RM900 (~SGD 363).

After factoring the costs for daily $20 VEP and causeway toll charges which are approximately (24 * 22 days) = $480. The total cost per month is $843. Still cheaper than getting a SG registered car. Besides the Msia car gets to save on petrol, insurance, road tax, HDB parking charges... and most importantly, you can still keep the car after 10 years  biggrin.gif

I'm planning to do so after my graduation since my house is in JB. No need to squeeze with others in MRT and bus  smile.gif

Kindly let me know if there are any other charges which I didn't factor in. Thanks!
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so will you carpool with others if they offer you ~s$480/month?

QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 24 2011, 10:08 AM)
most of us posting here are working in singapore too. what's your point? hmm.gif
Time wasted crossing the border every day? Could be easily 1-2 hours daily depending on where you stay and where you work.
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if someone else drive me to and fro SG then I can take a nap or sipping coffee while reading news paper in the car. If the service is reliable then I can sell away my SG car or just get a backup OPC when my COE expired.

I can't imagine myself paying RM133750.00 (S$54887) just for that piece of COE. That's S$457/month, I rather pay that money for someone else to drive.

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 24 2011, 10:50 AM)
so will you carpool with others if they offer you  ~s$480/month?
if someone else drive me to and fro SG then I can take a nap or sipping coffee while reading news paper in the car. If the service is reliable then I can sell away my SG car or just get a backup OPC when my COE expired.

I can't imagine myself paying RM133750.00 (S$54887) just for that piece of COE. That's S$457/month, I rather pay that money for someone else to drive.
That's why there's taxi drivers.

Car pooling in my opinion is never reliable. That's because people get sick, get emergencies, get lazy, get late, get forgetful and at some point, they have something better to do. If anyone in the car pool is late, everybody is late. If the driver doesn't want to drive that day... everybody has to scramble for alternative transport.

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Just tasted Kong Kee famous KL Hokkien met @ Geylang yesterday. My 'virgin' trip there.

Taste & texture is comparable to KL, it was really that good ! Reasonable price (by Sg standard) i would say. SGD5/SGD10/SGD15 . The only downside is the 'samba belacan' not like those we eat in KL.

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Just tasted Kong Kee famous KL Hokkien met @ Geylang yesterday. My 'virgin' trip there.

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most of us posting here are working in singapore too. what's your point? hmm.gif
Time wasted crossing the border every day? Could be easily 1-2 hours daily depending on where you stay and where you work.
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Yea it can be very time consuming to cross the border even though the distance is near. For me I think it's still ok to spend 2 hours daily in traveling. 1 hour go, 1 hour back. Not too bad la.. Many of our fellow country peole in KL travel like that also smile.gif

QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 24 2011, 10:50 AM)
so will you carpool with others if they offer you  ~s$480/month?
if someone else drive me to and fro SG then I can take a nap or sipping coffee while reading news paper in the car. If the service is reliable then I can sell away my SG car or just get a backup OPC when my COE expired.

I can't imagine myself paying RM133750.00 (S$54887) just for that piece of COE. That's S$457/month, I rather pay that money for someone else to drive.
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SG is really one of the richest country in the world by looking at how the price of the COE gone up in recent years. Singaporeans are getting richer and richer, the demand for COE seems to be rising forever.

As long as I can afford, I won't be considering a car pool. Seantang has stated all the reasons well why car pooling is troublesome ohmy.gif

Keen on getting a job with car allowance after my graduation from NUS later. Anyone knows what is the car allowance rate like for sales/marketing personnel in SG? My sis's company, an MNC in healthcare industry is offering SGD1200/month for their fresh grad sales staff.

QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 24 2011, 11:01 AM)
That's why there's taxi drivers.

Car pooling in my opinion is never reliable. That's because people get sick, get emergencies, get lazy, get late, get forgetful and at some point, they have something better to do. If anyone in the car pool is late, everybody is late. If the driver doesn't want to drive that day... everybody has to scramble for alternative transport.
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Good points.

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Keen on getting a job with car allowance after my graduation from NUS later. Anyone knows what is the car allowance rate like for sales/marketing personnel in SG? My sis's company, an MNC in healthcare industry is offering SGD1200/month for their fresh grad sales staff.
We pay S$1500 for non-managerial staff as long as they need the car to work (tool of trade allowance). For managers, the car benefit perk starts at S$2000 for junior managers to $4500 for senior directors.

Our HR tells us that this is competitive vs the rest of the market and is based on the cost to buy, run and maintain a car in Singapore. But this scale was last revised when the COE was still S$20K, about 2 years ago. I expect it to be revised again soon, now that the COE has become $50K with no possibility of going back down, due to step-by-step decreases in COE supply. Over the car's lifetime of 5 years, the $30K difference in COE is worth approximately $500 a month extra.

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QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 24 2011, 01:27 PM)
Yea it can be very time consuming to cross the border even though the distance is near. For me I think it's still ok to spend 2 hours daily in traveling. 1 hour go, 1 hour back. Not too bad la.. Many of our fellow country peole in KL travel like that also  smile.gif
SG is really one of the richest country in the world by looking at how the price of the COE gone up in recent years. Singaporeans are getting richer and richer, the demand for COE seems to be rising forever.

As long as I can afford, I won't be considering a car pool. Seantang has stated all the reasons well why car pooling is troublesome  ohmy.gif

Keen on getting a job with car allowance after my graduation from NUS later. Anyone knows what is the car allowance rate like for sales/marketing personnel in SG? My sis's company, an MNC in healthcare industry is offering SGD1200/month for their fresh grad sales staff.
Good points.
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It will be more than 2 hours daily. During normal commute, expect about 1.5 hours per way so get ready for three hours quality time spending in the car.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 24 2011, 01:58 PM)
We pay S$1500 for non-managerial staff as long as they need the car to work (tool of trade allowance). For managers, the car benefit perk starts at S$2000 for junior managers to $4500 for senior directors.

Our HR tells us that this is competitive vs the rest of the market and is based on the cost to buy, run and maintain a car in Singapore. But this scale was last revised when the COE was still S$20K, about 2 years ago. I expect it to be revised again soon, now that the COE has become $50K with no possibility of going back down, due to step-by-step decreases in COE supply. Over the car's lifetime of 5 years, the $30K difference in COE is worth approximately $500 a month extra.
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Wow $4,500, no wonder there are damn lots of BMWs and Mercs around. Great! I'll work hard and try to get into those big companies like yours smile.gif

QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Nov 24 2011, 02:01 PM)
It will be more than 2 hours daily.  During normal commute, expect about 1.5 hours per way so get ready for three hours quality time spending in the car.
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3 hours? Awww.. What about 2nd link? I know we have to pay extra charges though. But I expect no congestion over there?
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 24 2011, 02:17 PM)
Wow $4,500, no wonder there are damn lots of BMWs and Mercs around. Great! I'll work hard and try to get into those big companies like yours smile.gif
3 hours? Awww.. What about 2nd link? I know we have to pay extra charges though. But I expect no congestion over there?
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Well, second link will have a lot less traffic. Depending on where you stay. Do take into consideration the jam within JB as well especially if you hit Jalan Tebrau or The Tun Razak Highway. From Singapore too, it depend on where you work or where you want to park your car.
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 24 2011, 02:29 PM)
No need to fill up "White Card" to enter M’sia, for now

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2 week to get the new stock of white card...

Maybe this "promo" applicable only for 2 weeks ?
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 24 2011, 02:17 PM)
Wow $4,500, no wonder there are damn lots of BMWs and Mercs around. Great! I'll work hard and try to get into those big companies like yours smile.gif
If you were a director earning $30K or more a month, would you tolerate driving anything less?
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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Nov 24 2011, 02:34 PM)
Well, second link will have a lot less traffic.  Depending on where you stay.  Do take into consideration the jam within JB as well especially if you hit Jalan Tebrau or The Tun Razak Highway.  From Singapore too, it depend on where you work or where you want to park your car.
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No need to fill up "White Card" to enter M’sia, for now

http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/artic...umentid=5574205

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Now they are working on the MACS system. Also I have a bad feeling that they will also toll us when we enter Singapore. They have setup the Touch and Go system there. So maybe now we have to pay double. Somehow I think Malaysian govt found out that it's a profitable business to tax us.
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If you were a director earning $30K or more a month, would you tolerate driving anything less?
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with that pay i'd consider bmw n merc as the 'less' group already
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with that pay i'd consider bmw n merc as the 'less' group already
except fo some higher echelon type/model  brows.gif
Depends... imho, richer Singaporeans typically want to spend less on cars (as a % of their income) than Malaysians. So even though they might earn $350-400K a year, it doesn't mean they want a car that's also worth $350-400K. Most of them will probably buy a car around $150-200K.

Contrast that to Malaysians, where it's natural for freshies who earn RM25K a year to buy a car worth RM40K. I was one of them... I was barely earning RM50K a year in KL, and I spent RM80K on my first car. Then you get people earning RM10K a month (RM120K a year, maybe RM150K including bonus) suddenly thinking they can afford a RM300K Evo, 320i or C-Class.

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It will be more than 2 hours daily.  During normal commute, expect about 1.5 hours per way so get ready for three hours quality time spending in the car.
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I am not sure what time u commute, like i say, most of the time, the causeway is clear from traffic. If you stay in Taman Pelangi, you can elave your house at 8am if u start work 9am.
Unless those lorries clog the causeway, then different story. as for 2nd link, not really sure. the actual time taken to queue on the immigration is less than 15 mins. just the time taken to travel from your home to causeway and causeway to office will eat up some time. now i am taking bike daily, i spend around 20 mins on the queue. Car is faster (confirm because i drove in before). if i work in Woodlands and i stay in Taman Pelangi, i can leave my house 30 mins before work and i confirm won't be late (unless immigration system down).

QUOTE(icycokes @ Nov 24 2011, 02:17 PM)
Wow $4,500, no wonder there are damn lots of BMWs and Mercs around. Great! I'll work hard and try to get into those big companies like yours smile.gif
3 hours? Awww.. What about 2nd link? I know we have to pay extra charges though. But I expect no congestion over there?
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2nd link is freaking expensive. RM15 + $6.40 + $20 a day. that is around $35 per day on toll alone. not to mention the long 2nd link which is far from city.
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Depends... imho, richer Singaporeans typically want to spend less on cars (as a % of their income) than Malaysians. So even though they might earn $350-400K a year, it doesn't mean they want a car that's also worth $350-400K. Most of them will probably buy a car around $150-200K.

Contrast that to Malaysians, where it's natural for freshies who earn RM25K a year to buy a car worth RM40K. I was one of them... I was barely earning RM50K a year in KL, and I spent RM80K on my first car. Then you get people earning RM10K a month (RM120K a year, maybe RM150K including bonus) suddenly thinking they can afford a RM300K Evo, 320i or C-Class.
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I thought once you are director, company will provide you a car. they will reimburse the fuel, erp, parking too
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I thought once you are director, company will provide you a car. they will reimburse the fuel, erp, parking too
Are you related to the other TS who posted a thread to ask at what job level the company will provide house, gardener, car, driver and pay for utilities as well?

It's about cash. It's always only about cash. If they pay you enough, you can buy your own car, pay for your own fuel, ERP and parking too. You do realise that if they give you a car, they will take it out of your salary and bonus, right?

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Waiting patiently is not the answer. All you have to do is save 2800 a month in the bank and at the end of 3 years, you will have 100800. The answer is work harder, work smarter and earn enough to save 2800 a month. Waiting patiently for the answer to fall onto your lap is...  blink.gif
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 24 2011, 03:50 PM)
If you were a director earning $30K or more a month, would you tolerate driving anything less?
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I won't know unless I get to feel how is it like to take home $30k per month blush.gif Thanks for sharing! If not I'll never imagine a company will pay so much for their employees' car. This tiny island is simply amazing.

QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 24 2011, 06:30 PM)
I am not sure what time u commute, like i say, most of the time, the causeway is clear from traffic. If you stay in Taman Pelangi, you can elave your house at 8am if u start work 9am.
Unless those lorries clog the causeway, then different story. as for 2nd link, not really sure. the actual time taken to queue on the immigration is less than 15 mins. just the time taken to travel from your home to causeway and causeway to office will eat up some time. now i am taking bike daily, i spend around 20 mins on the queue. Car is faster (confirm because i drove in before). if i work in Woodlands and i stay in Taman Pelangi, i can leave my house 30 mins before work and i confirm won't be late (unless immigration system down).
2nd link is freaking expensive. RM15 + $6.40 + $20 a day. that is around $35 per day on toll alone. not to mention the long 2nd link which is far from city.
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Taman Pelangi sounds nice. Rental there are cheap but with high crime rates ohmy.gif Thanks for sharing! My home is at Kulai which they have built 1 highway to link to 2nd-link. The road has not opened yet, but I expect it will take around 30 mins to travel to 2nd-link if the traffic is smooth. Houses here used to be cheap but recently went up damn quite lot with the Iskandar Region developments smile.gif

Well traveling by Causeway will costs around $25 as well. So it is $10 more to travel by 2nd-link. I'll pay if it can save time.

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how to save 2.8k if you have gf?How to get a decent job if you only have bachelor degree? how to get high paid job if gov restrict the foreigners?
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 24 2011, 01:58 PM)
We pay S$1500 for non-managerial staff as long as they need the car to work (tool of trade allowance). For managers, the car benefit perk starts at S$2000 for junior managers to $4500 for senior directors.

Our HR tells us that this is competitive vs the rest of the market and is based on the cost to buy, run and maintain a car in Singapore. But this scale was last revised when the COE was still S$20K, about 2 years ago. I expect it to be revised again soon, now that the COE has become $50K with no possibility of going back down, due to step-by-step decreases in COE supply. Over the car's lifetime of 5 years, the $30K difference in COE is worth approximately $500 a month extra.
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my friend got $900 car allowance, i tot that was not bad.. who knows its below market rate... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 25 2011, 12:57 AM)
my friend got $900 car allowance, i tot that was not bad.. who knows its below market rate... sweat.gif
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$900.. around 10k+ a year... thats a lot leh... enough to buy a car with depreciation of 6k a year and the rest for maintenance and insurance
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Added on November 24, 2011, 11:13 pmbreaking dawn movie good?
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1st half of the film does charm you. However once the wedding and honeymoon ends, Breaking Dawn ceases to be the beautiful fantasy Twilight film you so thoroughly fancy. It changes track and ends up as a spooky tragic dull drama. sweat.gif


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how to save 2.8k if you have gf?How to get a decent job if you only have bachelor degree? how to get high paid job if gov restrict the foreigners?
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Who ask you to get a high maintenance gf with a 2.8k salary? more to the point, HOW do you maange to get a gf with a 2.8k pay knowing well Singaporean (and Malaysian) girls would NOT want a bf who is only earning 2.8k a month..... hmm.gif
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Who ask you to get a high maintenance gf with a 2.8k salary? more to the point, HOW do you maange to get a gf with a 2.8k pay knowing well Singaporean (and Malaysian) girls would NOT want a bf who is only earning 2.8k a month..... hmm.gif
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its savings la... not income la... read properly... hayar, total income around sgd 2k should be enough already
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I have many friends work in Singapore don't want to come back
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frankly speaking, am 1 of them. if i come back m'sia to work, i wont get the pay same as in sg.
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how to get high paid job if gov restrict the foreigners?

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The Singapore govt does not restrict foreigners from high paying jobs. Where did you get that from?
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The  Singapore govt does not restrict foreigners from high paying jobs.  Where did you get that from?
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for a m'sia auto SA, u get basic+OT+laundry allowance+outstation allowance :all add in around RM2800-3200.
for s'pore auto SA, u get basic+OT+laundry allowance+incentive(comm ) : all add in around sgd2800-4000. Frankly speaking, the comm alone will be more than you basic pay if you are workaholic.
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QUOTE(bellion @ Nov 25 2011, 11:28 AM)
The  Singapore govt does not restrict foreigners from high paying jobs.  Where did you get that from?
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maybe he targeting minister job sweat.gif

http://www.yeocheowtong.com/Salaries.html


Added on November 25, 2011, 11:54 amSINGAPORE, March 11, 2011 - Parliament has approved an increase in the President's salary which is now S$4,267,500 (US$3,355,270), an increase of S$890,700 (US$700,302).

Singapore Prime Minister's Salary $US2.47 million, or about six times more than the U.S. President, who currently takes home US$400,000.
The monthly pay for a Singapore Member of Parliament (who does virtually nothing) is S$12,000 (US$8,600 ) per month or S$144,000 (US$103,200 ) per year tax free.

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 25 2011, 11:42 AM)
maybe he targeting minister job  sweat.gif

http://www.yeocheowtong.com/Salaries.html


Added on November 25, 2011, 11:54 amSINGAPORE, March 11, 2011 - Parliament has approved an increase in the President's salary which is now S$4,267,500 (US$3,355,270), an increase of S$890,700 (US$700,302).

Singapore Prime Minister's Salary $US2.47 million, or about six times more than the U.S. President, who currently takes home US$400,000.
The monthly pay for a Singapore Member of Parliament (who does virtually nothing) is S$12,000 (US$8,600 ) per month or S$144,000 (US$103,200 ) per year tax free.
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i think it is around there la... worth everything if corruption is no and development is there... its hedge against top executives across various industries..

compare to ceo of dbs, uob, wilmar, ... etc etc... about the same
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if got exp about 4 yrs, how much basic salary shall we request in SG??
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if got exp about 4 yrs, how much basic salary shall we request in SG??
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1k for 1 year, so 4 year is 4k  sweat.gif
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by that definition then i am really overpaid

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if got exp about 4 yrs, how much basic salary shall we request in SG??
What kind of experience?

If you're a MP like Tin Pei Ling, 1 month experience also get paid $14K.

If you're a construction worker, 10 years experience also get paid $1.5K.

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my friend got $900 car allowance, i tot that was not bad.. who knows its below market rate... sweat.gif
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Damn not bad, the only thing i have is the company reimbursement for taxi rides to and from my office or offsite workplace.
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Damn not bad, the only thing i have is the company reimbursement for taxi rides to and from my office or offsite workplace.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 25 2011, 03:44 PM)
What kind of experience?

If you're a MP like Tin Pei Ling, 1 month experience also get paid $14K.

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Malaysian MP earn much, much, much more....unreported salary, of course wink.gif
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Malaysian MP earn much, much, much more....unreported salary, of course wink.gif
Malaysian MPs don't EARN their millions and billions. They rob, cheat and steal.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 25 2011, 05:12 PM)
Damn not bad, the only thing i have is the company reimbursement for taxi rides to and from my office or offsite workplace.

i only get taxi reimbursement if i go home after 10pm, ha ha smile.gif

it's fine though cos if i know i need to work late i'll just work from home.
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i only get taxi reimbursement if i go home after 10pm, ha ha smile.gif

it's fine though cos if i know i need to work late i'll just work from home.
Car benefit is part of the remuneration package. If our employees with car benefit take taxis or drive on business, they still claim taxi fare and mileage.
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Car benefit is part of the remuneration package. If our employees with car benefit take taxis or drive on business, they still claim taxi fare and mileage.

Better than my company! Employees with car benefit aren't eligible for taxi fare.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 26 2011, 10:34 AM)
Better than my company! Employees with car benefit aren't eligible for taxi fare.
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isnt that fair? then what's a company car for?

neway... mine is claimable after 9 inclusive of meals... usually if i am made to stay till 9pm, i will hantam around $45 worth of allowance... although not much but better than ntg
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 26 2011, 11:47 AM)
isnt that fair? then what's a company car for?
Depends on what the car allowance is for. Whether it is part of your renumeration package, or some of reimbursement for out of pocket expenses.

For us, unless you're customer facing (salesman or tech service etc ie. tool of trade), a car allowance is level dependent. If you're senior enough, you get it as part of your overall package. Whether they pay that part of the package as salary or allowance is merely an administrative matter.

If you spend out of pocket for company business, that's a different matter which is not linked to your package.

If people who get car allowances cannot claim taxi, mileage etc, then the sales managers (who need to move around a lot) will be disadvantaged vs. say the finance managers (who stay in office) - when it comes to their package despite being the same job level. The sales managers' out of pocket expenses will eat into a lot more of their car allowance, compared to the finance managers.
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What happened to Malaysia?’
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/2011/11/2...ed-to-malaysia/

How does one measure the success of a country? To the people, it is reflected in their overall standard of living.

Not every country is lucky enough to have a team of intelligent people whose passionate objectives drive them to make their country a better place to live – for everyone.

Singapore is one such country. Today this island republic has one of the highest standard of living in Southeast Asia.
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What happened to Malaysia?’
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/2011/11/2...ed-to-malaysia/

How does one measure the success of a country? To the people, it is reflected in their overall standard of living.

Not every country is lucky enough to have a team of intelligent people whose passionate objectives drive them to make their country a better place to live – for everyone.

Singapore is one such country. Today this island republic has one of the highest standard of living in Southeast Asia.
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high standard of living but they need to work till death, people in malaysia can retire at 50 yrs old live comfortably in penang. Most Singaporean cannot do this in singapore. This is why 1 day got 1 person in average took suicide in sg
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 04:35 AM)
high standard of living but they need to work till death, people in malaysia can retire at 50 yrs old live comfortably in penang. Most Singaporean cannot do this in singapore. This is why 1 day got 1 person in average took suicide in sg
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But priorities are individual.

For me, retirement comes second to security. I dont mind paying a fortune for Security even though that leads to living in a pigeonhole.

That's me and that's my priority.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 04:35 AM)
high standard of living but they need to work till death, people in malaysia can retire at 50 yrs old live comfortably in penang. Most Singaporean cannot do this in singapore.
You are generalising too much. Most people in Malaysia cannot retire at 50 and lead the lifestyle they want. Some can but most can't.

Same for Singapore. Most people can't retire at 50 and keep their lifestyle, but some can.

Your observations are selective, your conclusions are prejudiced by your biases and you randomly make motherhood statements that are supposed to represent an entire population when your knowledge doesn't extend beyond the narrow area that you have come in contact with.
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But priorities are individual.

For me, retirement comes second to security. I dont mind paying a fortune for Security even though that leads to living in a pigeonhole.

That's me and that's my priority.
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were you saying malaysia is not safe? Try to live in penang to know what safe means.
For myself, I prefer singapore because it gives me city and vibrant life. I don't like living in the village.


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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 27 2011, 11:31 AM)
You are generalising too much. Most people in Malaysia cannot retire at 50 and lead the lifestyle they want. Some can but most can't.

Same for Singapore. Most people can't retire at 50 and keep their lifestyle, but some can.

Your observations are selective, your conclusions are prejudiced by your biases and you randomly make motherhood statements that are supposed to represent an entire population when your knowledge doesn't extend beyond the narrow area that you have come in contact with.
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why do people in malaysia not be able to retire at 50? If they choose to retire, I think they should be able to retire with the cost of living in penang very cheap.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 05:40 PM)
were you saying malaysia is not safe? Try to live in penang to know what safe means.
For myself, I prefer singapore because it gives me city and vibrant life. I don't like living in the village.


Added on November 27, 2011, 5:43 pm

why do people in malaysia not be able to retire at 50? If they choose to retire, I think they should be able to retire with the cost of living in penang very cheap.
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I don't think so. Prices of property is crazy in Penang Island.
My plate of char kuey teow also shrinking by the years
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 05:40 PM)
why do people in malaysia not be able to retire at 50? If they choose to retire, I think they should be able to retire with the cost of living in penang very cheap.

Why do people in singapore not able to retire at 50? If the choose to retire, I think they should be able to retire with their income in singapore very high.

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anyone here foreveralone in SG?

I mean most frens left SG back to KL and my gf oso pisah edy...

so every weekend just stay at my room or go swim or gym...

foreveralone lifestyle... damn.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 05:40 PM)
I don't like living in the village.


Added on November 27, 2011, 5:43 pm

cost of living in penang very cheap.
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You are obviously not from Penang, or at least not from the island sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MsiaqweR @ Nov 27 2011, 06:40 PM)
anyone here foreveralone in SG?

I mean most frens left SG back to KL and my gf oso pisah edy...

so every weekend just stay at my room or go swim or gym...

foreveralone lifestyle... damn.
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You are obviously not from Penang, or at least not from the island  sweat.gif
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cheap la in penang.. 1 meal only costs you 3-4 ringgit.

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cheap la in penang.. 1 meal only costs you 3-4 ringgit.
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I dunno about you man, but when I retire would take a lot more factors into account than just the cost of a kopitiam meal.

Btw, RM4 for a meal is on the low end, you would probably get a measly 2-3 vegetable dish or those weird mixed meat from a chap fan stall with that amount. You wanna plan your retirement around cost of cheap chap fan meals, be my guest.

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I dunno about you man, but when I retire would take a lot more factors into account than just the cost of a kopitiam meal.

Btw, RM4 for a meal is on the low end, you would probably get a measly 2-3 vegetable dish or those weird mixed meat from a chap fan stall with that amount. You wanna plan your retirement around cost of cheap chap fan meals, be my guest.
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cheap chap fan meals are currently my daily food. I don't think we will eat many meats in our old days.Foods in penang is quite clean like food court/hawkers in sg.
I only go to restaurant once a week on sunday.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 05:40 PM)
were you saying malaysia is not safe? Try to live in penang to know what safe means.
For myself, I prefer singapore because it gives me city and vibrant life. I don't like living in the village.


Added on November 27, 2011, 5:43 pm

why do people in malaysia not be able to retire at 50? If they choose to retire, I think they should be able to retire with the cost of living in penang very cheap.
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I have no intention to implicate that. Implicitly, those who earn a living within the boundaries of the Constitution should deserve better, but total security is an utopia.

My perspective is to go with a subject that has already been tested and proven. It should be universal - in this sense Singapore is well regarded as a Safe Country State. Having said that, I still love Msia and I am sure putting the right people to amend the Constitution will lead the country to your 'preference' - A city and vibrant life. But I am sure it would be more meaningful with a 'secure' word in between.


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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 08:06 PM)
cheap chap fan meals are currently my daily food. I don't think we will eat many meats in our old days.Foods in penang is quite clean like food court/hawkers in sg.
I only go to restaurant once a week on sunday.

That's only you. All retirees want to live like you? Or you just assume your lifestyle represents all Malaysians and Singaporeans?

Besides, you can easily get S$3-4 chap fan in Singapore. Actually $2 also can.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 08:06 PM)
cheap chap fan meals are currently my daily food. I don't think we will eat many meats in our old days.Foods in penang is quite clean like food court/hawkers in sg.
I only go to restaurant once a week on sunday.
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What kind of a quality retirement lifestyle is that with meals revolving around unhygenic and unhealthy chap fan meals?


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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 08:06 PM)
cheap chap fan meals are currently my daily food. I don't think we will eat many meats in our old days.Foods in penang is quite clean like food court/hawkers in sg.
I only go to restaurant once a week on sunday.
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I actually laughed at this. You...can't be seriously placing the cost of a chap fan meal as the cornerstone of your retirement plan?


Added on November 27, 2011, 9:03 pmThat being said, I do intend to retire back in my hometown of Penang someday, but only after securing the necessary means for a comfortable retirement like a respectable investment portfolio, properties, healthcare plans, etc etc.

Not just the cost of a chap fan meal.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 07:07 PM)
cheap la in penang.. 1 meal only costs you 3-4 ringgit.
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take this from a penangnite.
comparing food in penang and singapore, singapore wins by being cheaper dollar to dollar.
food portion is more here.
i can order a bowl of curry chicken rice for $4.5 and share with my wife and we both get full.
in penang...i hardly get full from 1 serving.
that is just comparing hawker food.
u up the standard by going to high class hotels for buffets, singapore is still cheaper.
the only food you can get cheaper in terms of price (dollar to dollar) is seafood restaurants.

I am thinking either u have not been to penang for a long time or you are being pure ignorant.

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QUOTE(MsiaqweR @ Nov 27 2011, 06:40 PM)
anyone here foreveralone in SG?

I mean most frens left SG back to KL and my gf oso pisah edy...

so every weekend just stay at my room or go swim or gym...

foreveralone lifestyle... damn.
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Single gooding can do stupid stuff all the time.... Less expenses...
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What kind of a quality retirement lifestyle is that with meals revolving around unhygenic and unhealthy chap fan meals?
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I will garden and cook the veggies myself when I retire!


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Single gooding can do stupid stuff all the time.... Less expenses...
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what stupid stuff u refer to?

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 10:30 PM)
I will garden and cook the veggies myself when I retire!
This is utterly different from your earlier remark about your daily diet being chap fan when you retire.
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Single gooding can do stupid stuff all the time.... Less expenses...
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Not agree... sometimes in relationship can share expenses or split expenses.

and foreveralone will not be more happy than those got bf/gf... but shit, me now oso foreveralone.
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Speaking of Chap Fan meal, I have an interesting business model to share from my observation in other countries. However, the practicality of this implementation resides with you.

I have seen chap fan that goes by weight, literally. The spread varies from salad, risotto, ribs, vege. So customers get to taste everything. Do expect it to be pricey on a per kg basis. Now the question is, can oriental food be served on a similar idea?
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 27 2011, 10:30 PM)
I will garden and cook the veggies myself when I retire!

Added on November 27, 2011, 10:32 pm
what stupid stuff u refer to?
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 27 2011, 11:20 PM)
Not agree... sometimes in relationship can share expenses or split expenses.
and foreveralone will not be more happy than those got bf/gf... but shit, me now oso foreveralone.
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split expenses while staying apart no matter what increases as compared to being single.. unless both are able to stay together and share cost then some savings is possible

of course, who wants to be foreveralone but under certain circumstances we have no choice..
QUOTE(keelim @ Nov 28 2011, 12:35 AM)
Speaking of Chap Fan meal, I have an interesting business model to share from my observation in other countries. However, the practicality of this implementation resides with you.
I have seen chap fan that goes by weight, literally. The spread varies from salad, risotto, ribs, vege. So customers get to taste everything. Do expect it to be pricey on a per kg basis. Now the question is, can oriental food be served on a similar idea?
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other countries is not chap fan/economy rice but more of just having more variety.. when i was US this concept was available in carrs, i always take the food without rice and pay around usd 10... shared among 3 ppl... to an avg of usd 4 with soda and rice... as compared to usd 9 per person if we eat at panda express...

where else in msia of sg it is not workable... unless you charge a lot per 100gm which makes it profitable irregardless what the customer takes... but this would be too exp, which defeats the purpose of 'economic' rice
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 28 2011, 12:45 AM)
ermm.. drive while cursing and pay no regards to others, smoke, hangout with guy friends doing all kinds of worthless stuff like dota, stare at girls, join fights, rempit... etc etc

split expenses while staying apart no matter what increases as compared to being single.. unless both are able to stay together and share cost then some savings is possible
stupid stuffs are also costly la, last time had gf at least my gf shared expenses.
agree with you, need to stay together if living in sg..
Having gf in sg, I will see how much you can save.

This is one of cons living in sg too.
Be prepared to be forever alone.

But I always think better having gf with good education like girl in sg than kampong girl in hometown.
At least their parents don't ask u for money right? Moreover, she can help u to work and share the expenses unless u are living at Australia when gov pays the housewife AUD 800/month

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 22 2011, 04:04 PM)
Not necessary.
Best to ask the counter when you buy tix.
Some have a final stop at diff places....some has extra stops....some get off at immigration (I get off at woodlands  laugh.gif  laugh.gif )
Oooo....never knew that.
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Where abouts in Woodlands do you stop? it is next to the Woodlands MRT? I work at Sembawang...so Woodlands is only a MRT ride for me. BTW, what coach company that you use?

As for the 02 prefix for Singapore, as I know it, its historical when S'pore was part of M'sia. All states have a prefix, like Selangor, 03; Perak, 05; etc.
+65 is the international dail code like +60 for M'sia.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 28 2011, 06:42 AM)
This is one of cons living in sg too.
Be prepared to be forever alone.

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Another one of your typical sweeping generalizations.

Does this mean Malaysians living and working in Singapore are destined to be bachelors and old maids for life? Tell that to the Malaysians who have settled in Singapore and have families and they will laugh at you.


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QUOTE(hokin @ Nov 28 2011, 08:22 AM)
Where abouts in Woodlands do you stop? it is next to the Woodlands MRT? I work at Sembawang...so Woodlands is only a MRT ride for me. BTW, what coach company that you use?

As for the 02 prefix for Singapore, as I know it, its historical when S'pore was part of M'sia. All states have a prefix, like Selangor, 03; Perak, 05; etc.
+65 is the international dail code like +60 for M'sia.
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Yes...u could still dial to singapore via 02 prefix rather than +65....calling rates will be cheaper on the 02
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Consumers still buying big-ticket IT goods
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/S...128-313024.html
anybody went to SITEX ? bought any good stuff ?
eyeing Gnote and asus Prime rolleyes.gif


Added on November 28, 2011, 9:41 am
QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 27 2011, 11:20 PM)
and foreveralone will not be more happy than those got bf/gf... but shit, me now oso foreveralone.
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get a thai wife thumbup.gif
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews...127-313006.html

A Singaporean man has murdered his Thai wife's lover in Bangkok on Thursday afternoon at around 1pm.



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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 28 2011, 06:42 AM)
But I always think better having gf with good education like girl in sg than kampong girl in hometown.
At least their parents don't ask u for money right? Moreover, she can help u to work and share the expenses unless u are living at Australia when gov pays the housewife AUD 800/month
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wtf is this shyt?
so "kampung" girl parents will only know how to ask money from u?
"kampung" girl does not know how to work?


QUOTE(hokin @ Nov 28 2011, 08:22 AM)
Where abouts in Woodlands do you stop? it is next to the Woodlands MRT? I work at Sembawang...so Woodlands is only a MRT ride for me. BTW, what coach company that you use?
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Nope.
I go down at singapore side of the immigration.
There are public buses there to bring u to mrt (kranji, marsiling, woodlands...some further, not sure where) laugh.gif laugh.gif
But since u are going sembawang, 950 is the way since it passes marsiling and ends up at woodlands.
Erm...it has been a long time since i took a coach. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 28 2011, 09:51 AM)
wtf is this shyt?
so "kampung" girl parents will only know how to ask money from u?
"kampung" girl does not know how to work?
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Kampung girls these days are different man. They are as materialistic as city girls if not more so. These days i go kampung and i see young girls with LV bag and prada shoes. Further they are also all looking for that rich guy to marry and want to live the tai-tai lifestyle like they see on TV. Blame it on the media unsure.gif
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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 27 2011, 09:38 PM)
i can order a bowl of curry chicken rice for $4.5 and share with my wife and we both get full.
in penang...i hardly get full from 1 serving.

Agreed on the Penang food portion size. Price don't increase that much but kns, all the food is kids portion nowadays, hokkien mee or ckt, 3-4 mouthfuls finish liao.

But errrrr $4.50 for curry chicken that can feed 2 ppl? where can you find such thing? even the food court at my hdb basement i need to spent at least $8-$10 to feed 2 ppl satisfactorily.

QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 28 2011, 09:40 AM)
anybody went to SITEX ? bought any good stuff ?

My colleagues went during lunch hour last week and said the HP booth had the most attractive & good "stuff." icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 28 2011, 10:19 AM)
Agreed on the Penang food portion size. Price don't increase that much but kns, all the food is kids portion nowadays, hokkien mee or ckt, 3-4 mouthfuls finish liao.

But errrrr $4.50 for curry chicken that can feed 2 ppl? where can you find such thing? even the food court at my hdb basement i need to spent at least $8-$10 to feed 2 ppl satisfactorily.
My colleagues went during lunch hour last week and said the HP booth had the most attractive & good "stuff." icon_idea.gif
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The food court at 888 woodlands. laugh.gif laugh.gif
maybe getting older kills my appetite also.
but back in penang, i still can't get full with 1 serving. laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 28 2011, 10:11 AM)
Kampung girls these days are different man. They are as materialistic as city girls if not more so. These days i go kampung and i see young girls with LV bag and prada shoes. Further they are also all looking for that rich guy to marry and want to live the tai-tai lifestyle like they see on TV. Blame it on the media unsure.gif
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people are who we perceived them to be.
if by default we have categorized them to be like that...then they are more likely to be that way, especially if we come across just one example (out of the countless number which we are most likely not going to remember as it will not be a lasting image) which will reassure us even more that what we perceived is true.
if we widen our view and clear off the biased perceptions, we will get to meet a lot more people and have a lot more fun when we discover the other side of them

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 28 2011, 10:11 AM)
Kampung girls these days are different man. They are as materialistic as city girls if not more so. These days i go kampung and i see young girls with LV bag and prada shoes. Further they are also all looking for that rich guy to marry and want to live the tai-tai lifestyle like they see on TV. Blame it on the media unsure.gif
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I second that. At least the urban women can earn a decent living with their education and work experience and some do share household expenses with their spouses.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 28 2011, 06:42 AM)

But I always think better having gf with good education like girl in sg than kampong girl in hometown.
At least their parents don't ask u for money right? Moreover, she can help u to work and share the expenses unless u are living at Australia when gov pays the housewife AUD 800/month
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Wow.. that a good planning with one stone kill two birds. biggrin.gif

But, you need to earn more to sustain that kind of lifestyle, right ?

Example : The parents are financial independent, of course they hope their daughter future husband also deep pocket.


So no Win Win situation here.
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 28 2011, 09:40 AM)
Consumers still buying big-ticket IT goods
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/S...128-313024.html
anybody went to SITEX ? bought any good stuff ?
eyeing Gnote and asus Prime  rolleyes.gif


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SITEX ? some of us have been hunting and combing thru online site these few days for Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals. Myself started on Fri and probably will end tonight smile.gif . Tiring 4 days
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Nov 28 2011, 01:31 PM)
SITEX ? some of us have been hunting and combing thru online site these few days for Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals. Myself started on Fri and probably will end tonight smile.gif . Tiring 4 days
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Did you find any good deals online? Mind to share?
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Nov 28 2011, 05:06 PM)
Today i am very happy and also very sad. I had been confirmed as permanent employee and my increment is only SGD50.
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u sad becoming a permanent employee and happy for the sgd50 ? rolleyes.gif
look at the bright side bonus is coming soon thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 28 2011, 06:42 AM)
But I always think better having gf with good education like girl in sg than kampong girl in hometown.
At least their parents don't ask u for money right? Moreover, she can help u to work and share the expenses unless u are living at Australia when gov pays the housewife AUD 800/month
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well, if her parents needs support then of course gotta share to help out.. isnt parents our responsibility too?
QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 28 2011, 10:11 AM)
Kampung girls these days are different man. They are as materialistic as city girls if not more so. These days i go kampung and i see young girls with LV bag and prada shoes. Further they are also all looking for that rich guy to marry and want to live the tai-tai lifestyle like they see on TV. Blame it on the media unsure.gif
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kampung doesnt mean poor ma... for me i prefer someone that i can click with irregardless kampung or not
QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 28 2011, 10:19 AM)
Agreed on the Penang food portion size. Price don't increase that much but kns, all the food is kids portion nowadays, hokkien mee or ckt, 3-4 mouthfuls finish liao.

But errrrr $4.50 for curry chicken that can feed 2 ppl? where can you find such thing? even the food court at my hdb basement i need to spent at least $8-$10 to feed 2 ppl satisfactorily.
My colleagues went during lunch hour last week and said the HP booth had the most attractive & good "stuff." icon_idea.gif
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i think can lor... 1 bowl of curry chicken sgd4 with rice... then add another bowl of rice lor.. sgd0.5...
depends on the person... diff ppl's diet req is diff.
QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Nov 28 2011, 01:31 PM)
SITEX ? some of us have been hunting and combing thru online site these few days for Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals. Myself started on Fri and probably will end tonight smile.gif . Tiring 4 days
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Nov 28 2011, 05:06 PM)
Today i am very happy and also very sad. I had been confirmed as permanent employee and my increment is only SGD50.
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50 is better than ntg right?
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 28 2011, 10:11 AM)
Kampung girls these days are different man. They are as materialistic as city girls if not more so. These days i go kampung and i see young girls with LV bag and prada shoes. Further they are also all looking for that rich guy to marry and want to live the tai-tai lifestyle like they see on TV. Blame it on the media unsure.gif
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Blame the korean movies la, they all same pattern, rich guys beg poor girls' love.


Added on November 28, 2011, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(Suxiest @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 AM)
Wow.. that a good planning with one stone kill two birds.  biggrin.gif

But, you need to earn more to sustain that kind of lifestyle, right ?

Example : The parents are financial independent, of course they hope their daughter future husband also deep pocket.
So no Win Win situation here.
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At least you earn 3.5k/month, It is not impossible to get a decent wife with a good bachelor degree.

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Nov 28 2011, 03:26 PM)
Did you find any good deals online?  Mind to share?
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Got myself a 32" inch TV so that i can play MW3, but since im so busy lately, my younger brother would be spending more quality time on it then i am. Too bad there are no custom fabricators in singapore who can fit a ps3 and a 23 inch lcd within the frames of a pelican case, then i can just bring my gaming rig on the "rig".
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 28 2011, 08:21 PM)
Got myself a 32" inch TV so that i can play MW3, but since im so busy lately, my younger brother would be spending more quality time on it then i am. Too bad there are no custom fabricators in singapore who can fit a ps3 and a 23 inch lcd within the frames of a pelican case, then i can just bring my gaming rig on the "rig".
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I just see plasma tv as not bright as LED.
The LED monitor is better, the plasma is too soft.
Saw yesterday 51" plasma tv is only for S$1300.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 28 2011, 08:21 PM)
Got myself a 32" inch TV so that i can play MW3, but since im so busy lately, my younger brother would be spending more quality time on it then i am. Too bad there are no custom fabricators in singapore who can fit a ps3 and a 23 inch lcd within the frames of a pelican case, then i can just bring my gaming rig on the "rig".
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what is MW3 ?
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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Nov 28 2011, 03:26 PM)
Did you find any good deals online?  Mind to share?
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different ppl got different interested. I bought a few pairs of oakley shades from amazon, some tees, hoodie, sleepwear, earphone, iphone case, bla bla bla
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Dunno it's the right place to post or not. Few years ago there was a controversy issue regarding the land in Tanjung pagar or some where else in Singapore between both Singapore and malaysian government. Malaysian government deliberately squeezed Singapore wanting to re-take back the land. Legally the land still belong to Keretapi Tanah Melayu (KTM) because when British left Malaya, they subdivided the land in Singapore and gave a big portion of Singapore land to KTM.
Does anyone knows about this issue and latest news?

I oso know if there's conflict, Malaysia always use the water issue and threaten to shut the tap to squeeze Singapore. Anyone knows the latest update?

If you don't mind, you can share the info here.

Some past history to share. During WW2, Singapore was the first state under Malaya that surrendered to Japanese because those Japanese off the tap in Johor to disconnect the water supply to Singapore.....habis lah!



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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Nov 28 2011, 10:55 PM)
Dunno it's the right place to post or not. Few years ago there was a controversy issue regarding the land in Tanjung pagar or some where else in Singapore between both Singapore and malaysian government. Malaysian government deliberately squeezed Singapore wanting to re-take back the land. Legally the land still belong to Keretapi Tanah Melayu (KTM) because when British left Malaya, they subdivided the land in Singapore and gave a big portion of Singapore land to KTM.
Does anyone knows about this issue and latest news?

I oso know if there's conflict, Malaysia always use the water issue and threaten to shut the tap to squeeze Singapore. Anyone knows the latest update?

If you don't mind, you can share the info here.

Some past history to share. During WW2, Singapore was the first state under Malaya that surrendered to Japanese because those Japanese off the tap in Johor to disconnect the water supply to Singapore.....habis lah!
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in my opinion, the reason that MY is willing to let go Tanjung Pagar's land is to capture Singapore investors for Iskandar development. it's likely other investors are more convinced if Singapore takes the first step due to its brand name.

is Singapore still being pulled by the water issue? by now, i reckon they should have seek alternative sources from neighboring countries such as Indonesia.
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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Nov 28 2011, 10:55 PM)
Dunno it's the right place to post or not. Few years ago there was a controversy issue regarding the land in Tanjung pagar or some where else in Singapore between both Singapore and malaysian government. Malaysian government deliberately squeezed Singapore wanting to re-take back the land. Legally the land still belong to Keretapi Tanah Melayu (KTM) because when British left Malaya, they subdivided the land in Singapore and gave a big portion of Singapore land to KTM.
Does anyone knows about this issue and latest news?

I oso know if there's conflict, Malaysia always use the water issue and threaten to shut the tap to squeeze Singapore. Anyone knows the latest update?

If you don't mind, you can share the info here.

Some past history to share. During WW2, Singapore was the first state under Malaya that surrendered to Japanese because those Japanese off the tap in Johor to disconnect the water supply to Singapore.....habis lah!
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sg compensated ktm with another piece of land where they will jointly develop it..

sg returned 1 of the water treatment plant as one of the contract has already expired.. where else another will expire within 40 years i think.. .but in 10 years sg will be self sufficient for water supply liao
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 29 2011, 12:39 AM)
sg compensated ktm with another piece of land where they will jointly develop it..

sg returned 1 of the water treatment plant as one of the contract has already expired.. where else another will expire within 40 years i think.. .but in 10 years sg will be self sufficient for water supply liao
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but land remains an issue. indo and malaysia stopped selling sands to singapore for obvious reason. from which country singapore gets the supplies for land reclamation? tengah and bidadari are potential sites for future new town development after punggol and that's that. are there any empty lands left for new town development? how sustainable singapore is to accomodate ever increasing numbers of population considering the scarcity of land, unless indo is willing to sell batam island to singapore.

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 PM)
sg compensated ktm with another piece of land where they will jointly develop it..

sg returned 1 of the water treatment plant as one of the contract has already expired.. where else another will expire within 40 years i think.. .but in 10 years sg will be self sufficient for water supply liao
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too bad, there are still struggling in lack of electricity... now still need to buy electricity from Msia.. sad.

this is why SG consider to build a nuclear plant.

and the worst part is... SG is lack of land for further exploitation and population growth. After 20 yrs, SG development will eventually come to a standstill due to no land for further developments.

I hope Australia will sell some islands to SG (at least equivalent to half the size of current SG in the next few years). icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 29 2011, 12:04 AM)
too bad, there are still struggling in lack of electricity... now still need to buy electricity from Msia.. sad.

this is why SG consider to build a nuclear plant.

and the worst part is... SG is lack of land for further exploitation and population growth. After 20 yrs, SG development will eventually come to a standstill due to no land for further developments.

I hope Australia will sell some islands to SG (at least equivalent to half the size of current SG in the next few years).  icon_rolleyes.gif
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sg build nuclear plant? I will leave sg for sure. Sg is too small to be destroyed if nuclear crashed


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but land remains an issue. indo and malaysia stopped selling sands to singapore for obvious reason. from which country singapore gets the supplies for land reclamation? tengah and bidadari are potential sites for future new town development after punggol and that's that. are there any empty lands left for new town development? how sustainable singapore is to accomodate ever increasing numbers of population considering the scarcity of land, unless indo is willing to sell batam island to singapore.
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sg has pulau ubin?

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sg has pulau ubin?
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QUOTE(quintessential @ Nov 29 2011, 12:02 AM)
but land remains an issue. indo and malaysia stopped selling sands to singapore for obvious reason. from which country singapore gets the supplies for land reclamation? tengah and bidadari are potential sites for future new town development after punggol and that's that. are there any empty lands left for new town development? how sustainable singapore is to accomodate ever increasing numbers of population considering the scarcity of land, unless indo is willing to sell batam island to singapore.
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well, everyday you can see sand intake from sg, must be coming from somewhere... indo still supplies to sg

6bill is high, around 7 bill is max... after that, they would be like israel
QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 29 2011, 12:04 AM)
too bad, there are still struggling in lack of electricity... now still need to buy electricity from Msia.. sad.
this is why SG consider to build a nuclear plant.
and the worst part is... SG is lack of land for further exploitation and population growth. After 20 yrs, SG development will eventually come to a standstill due to no land for further developments.
I hope Australia will sell some islands to SG (at least equivalent to half the size of current SG in the next few years).  icon_rolleyes.gif
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no lack of electricity la... just that they want to diversify or find cheaper sources only...nuclear plant is a nono unless it is a mini one

dont worry, if msia is not in, indo will go in... sg is rich, everybody wants to be its friend
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 PM)
... in 10 years sg will be self sufficient for water supply liao

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QUOTE(quintessential @ Nov 29 2011, 12:02 AM)
but land remains an issue. indo and malaysia stopped selling sands to singapore for obvious reason. from which country singapore gets the supplies for land reclamation? tengah and bidadari are potential sites for future new town development after punggol and that's that. are there any empty lands left for new town development? how sustainable singapore is to accomodate ever increasing numbers of population considering the scarcity of land, unless indo is willing to sell batam island to singapore.
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Singapore's economy is not tied to needing vast amounts of land - you should be more concerned about the vast amount of brain drain from Malaysia to Singapore which means Malaysia is getting more stupid on a mean IQ level by the day.
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Malaysia & Indonesia got so many kroni and corrupt gov, how to say dun wan to sell sand to SG??? As long as got people (or country) willing to pay money, they will figure a way to steal sand. Otherwise how do you explain the constant sand theft in Kuala Selangor???
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me today 1st day in my new company at penjuru...

anyone working nearby here?
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 28 2011, 09:07 PM)
I just see plasma tv as not bright as LED.
The LED monitor is better, the plasma is too soft.
Saw yesterday 51" plasma tv is only for S$1300.
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But plasma has better colour representation. But i got myself a LCD monitor.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Nov 29 2011, 04:55 PM)
But plasma has better colour representation. But i got myself a LCD monitor.
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Still LCD monitor?... better buy LED monitor la.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 29 2011, 08:55 AM)
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 29 2011, 10:45 AM)
Malaysia & Indonesia got so many kroni and corrupt gov, how to say dun wan to sell sand to SG??? As long as got people (or country) willing to pay money, they will figure a way to steal sand. Otherwise how do you explain the constant sand theft in Kuala Selangor???
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sand expensive ma? they put sand on the sea, later kena tsunami how?
Imagine sg kena tsunami, will it recover fast like japan?


Added on November 29, 2011, 8:39 pmno wonder many people got kidney disease, coz sg still used water from malaysia and they consume it from the westafel. They should use water purifier. I saw the experiment the water has many chemicals and electricity


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I personally prefer the colour reproduction of a LCD than LED, mainly because the LED looks over-saturated to my eyes most of the times..
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 29 2011, 08:35 PM)
sand expensive ma? they put sand on the sea, later kena tsunami how?
Imagine sg kena tsunami, will it recover fast like japan?


Added on November 29, 2011, 8:39 pmno wonder many people got kidney disease, coz sg still used water from malaysia and they consume it from the westafel. They should use water purifier. I saw the experiment the water has many chemicals and electricity


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LCD got many radiations. i prefer LED. plasma is very soft and dark. dun like it
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Funny, what if SG can't recover as fast as jp? Will you leave SG now? Where else you want to go? Malaysia?

Another funny thought about the water. I really wonder am I replying to a Malaysian minister, you really think like them.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 29 2011, 08:35 PM)
sand expensive ma? they put sand on the sea, later kena tsunami how?
Imagine sg kena tsunami, will it recover fast like japan?

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Japanese are known for their kamikaze principle and willing to die for their nation. Japan has recovered fast from the tsunami tragedy and I always admire their strong spirit.
If a strong tsunami hits Singapore, that's it...habis. Singapore will be wiped off from the world map and their people will start to kneel down begging for international aid from other nations and there will be influx of singaporeans entering Johor. Johor oso hit by flood 4 years ago but things have gone back to normal.

Ok guys thank you for all your input to my questions but not enough. I need more input for my dissertation, thanks in advance anyway. I am collecting info from various sources and LYN is one of the source. Hope more comments will come in tomorrow. Thanks.





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Japanese are known for their kamikaze principle and willing to die for their nation. Japan has recovered fast from the tsunami tragedy and I always admire their strong spirit.
If a strong tsunami hits Singapore, that's it...habis. Singapore will be wiped off from the world map and their people will start to kneel down begging for international aid from other nations and there will be influx of singaporeans entering Johor. Johor oso hit by flood 4 years ago but things have gone back to normal.

Ok guys thank you for all your input to my questions but not enough. I need more input for my dissertation, thanks in advance anyway. I am collecting info from various sources and LYN is one of the source. Hope more comments will come in tomorrow. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Nov 29 2011, 09:59 PM)
Japanese are known for their kamikaze principle and willing to die for their nation. Japan has recovered fast from the tsunami tragedy and I always admire their strong spirit.
If a strong tsunami hits Singapore, that's it...habis. Singapore will be wiped off from the world map and their people will start to kneel down begging for international aid from other nations and there will be influx of singaporeans entering Johor. Johor oso hit by flood 4 years ago but things have gone back to normal.

Ok guys thank you for all your input to my questions but not enough. I need more input for my dissertation, thanks in advance anyway. I am collecting info from various sources and LYN is one of the source. Hope more comments will come in tomorrow. Thanks.
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Dissertation? haha!! No need to pretend lah, all I see are some jibes at Singapore.

Since we are on fantastical thoughts here, how about this - a break up of the Federation of Malaysia and Johor being colonized or bought by Singapore?
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QUOTE(quintessential @ Nov 29 2011, 12:02 AM)
but land remains an issue. indo and malaysia stopped selling sands to singapore for obvious reason. from which country singapore gets the supplies for land reclamation? tengah and bidadari are potential sites for future new town development after punggol and that's that. are there any empty lands left for new town development? how sustainable singapore is to accomodate ever increasing numbers of population considering the scarcity of land, unless indo is willing to sell batam island to singapore.
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- a break up of the Federation of Malaysia and Johor being colonized or bought by Singapore?

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Please accept my apology if my question is too sensitive for some people. notworthy.gif
I will wrap up the "current issues for concern (water and land)" if it's unfit to be discussed and will start the next area "political development". My dissertation on Political Science covers 4 countries, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia. Everyone on this site talk abt singapore, that is why I tried to get input from here. It's ok if anyone doesn't feel comfortable to discuss. nod.gif
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hello, newbie here

where is the bus station that bus will stop for route MY-SG??

and how to make call to SG from MY? +65 or +02?? help here
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02 is a shortcut, meant for telephones at home, where u dun really get to press "+"


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stupid stuffs are also costly la, last time had gf at least my gf shared expenses.
agree with you, need to stay together if living in sg..
Having gf in sg, I will see how much you can save.

This is one of cons living in sg too.
Be prepared to be forever alone.

But I always think better having gf with good education like girl in sg than kampong girl in hometown.
At least their parents don't ask u for money right? Moreover, she can help u to work and share the expenses unless u are living at Australia when gov pays the housewife AUD 800/month
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i do not agree.
Everywhere, be it msia or sg, having a gf dampen your saving plans abit, but thats life.
in sg, there are plenty sg girls who are not materialistic. In some extend, some sg guys may keep on
complaining all sg girls are materialistic, but its not true. Everyone is materialistic to some extend.
i met many nice sg girls who are very down-to-earth. they do have dreams of getting a rich handsome man,
but they are also realistic to know not everyone can have everything.

in sg, i really dislike those guys who aim for those model looking type, couldn't get the babe and
complain she is bloody materialistic. They should look themselves in the mirror...
can't blame the girl if there are tons of handsome and bloody rich guys going after her right?

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in sg, i really dislike those guys who aim for those model looking type, couldn't get the babe and
complain she is bloody materialistic. They should look themselves in the mirror...
can't blame the girl if there are  tons of handsome and bloody rich guys going after her right?
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Somehow SG girls like white dudes. If the handsome tom cruise or brad pitt look alike it's ok lar but i have seen many hot chics (the ones that could easily win top 3 spot in beauty contest) holding hands wif a super fugly white guy. Dunno why????
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QUOTE(SYL17 @ Nov 29 2011, 11:15 PM)
+65 is the official code, whether landline or hp line.
02 is a shortcut, meant for telephones at home, where u dun really get to press "+"
02 is the area code for Singapore, just like 03 for Klang Valley, 05 for Ipoh etc. This is known as STD (Subscriber Trunk Dialling) or area call / trunk call. Today, years later, you can still use 02 to call Singapore from Malaysia using Telekom fixed line. Not sure if MY mobile phones can still use STD. No idea if you can still use your SG fixed line to call 03 for KL, 05 for Ipoh etc. SG mobile phones cannot and have to use IDD.

65 is the IDD code for Singapore (International Direct Dial).

+ is the IDD access indicator for mobile phones... basically tells your phone that the next 2 or 3 numbers is an IDD code. Dialling 001 in Singapore and 00 in Malaysia from a fixed line performs the same function. In SG, it's actually cheaper instead to use service provider specific IDD access codes like 018 for Starhub to make IDD calls, rather than + or 001.


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Somehow SG girls like white dudes. If the handsome tom cruise or brad pitt look alike it's ok lar but i have seen many hot chics (the ones that could easily win top 3 spot in beauty contest) holding hands wif a super fugly white guy. Dunno why????
SPGs are attracted to expat packages. Fact of life that angmohs in SG are in SG only because their companies pay a premium to bring them here. You seldom find average angmohs coming to Singapore on local pay to do average jobs.

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QUOTE(SYL17 @ Nov 29 2011, 11:15 PM)
+65 is the official code, whether landline or hp line.
02 is a shortcut, meant for telephones at home, where u dun really get to press "+"


Added on November 29, 2011, 11:25 pm

i do not agree.
Everywhere, be it msia or sg, having a gf dampen your saving plans abit, but thats life.
in sg, there are plenty sg girls who are not materialistic. In some extend, some sg guys may keep on
complaining all sg girls are materialistic,  but its not true. Everyone is materialistic to some extend.
i met many nice sg girls who are very down-to-earth. they do have dreams of getting a rich handsome man,
but they are also realistic to know not everyone can have everything.

in sg, i really dislike those guys who aim for those model looking type, couldn't get the babe and
complain she is bloody materialistic. They should look themselves in the mirror...
can't blame the girl if there are  tons of handsome and bloody rich guys going after her right?
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you don't agree with whom? wrong quote la..

I prefer the average one la than those models look, the number one is personality above beauty, the better the inner beauty I like. I am someone who can't control my jealousy haha...

mercury84, dun generalise those sg galz.. I heard from my sg friends they prefer asians than whites.


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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 29 2011, 11:39 PM)
02 is the area code for Singapore, just like 03 for Klang Valley, 05 for Ipoh etc. This is known as STD (Subscriber Trunk Dialling) or area call / trunk call. Today, years later, you can still use 02 to call Singapore from Malaysia using Telekom fixed line. Not sure if MY mobile phones can still use STD. No idea if you can still use your SG fixed line to call 03 for KL, 05 for Ipoh etc. SG mobile phones cannot and have to use IDD.

65 is the IDD code for Singapore (International Direct Dial).

+ is the IDD access indicator for mobile phones... basically tells your phone that the next 2 or 3 numbers is an IDD code. Dialling 001 in Singapore and 00 in Malaysia from a fixed line performs the same function. In SG, it's actually cheaper instead to use service provider specific IDD access codes like 018 for Starhub to make IDD calls, rather than + or 001.


Added on November 29, 2011, 11:43 pmSPGs are attracted to expat packages. Fact of life that angmohs in SG are in SG only because their companies pay a premium to bring them here. You seldom find average angmohs coming to Singapore on local pay to do average jobs.
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Too bad, What I saw the ang mohs with expat package mostly have hot chic blonde wives.
Blonde galz in sg are not bad, they are mostly pretty what I have met, they have sexy body and legs, really love their legs.

How about ang moh who teach in primary school? expat package? most single ang moh in sg like to have minah gfs, they say minah jambu are exotics..minah jambu what I said is the 'indon maid look'

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Somehow SG girls like white dudes. If the handsome tom cruise or brad pitt look alike it's ok lar but i have seen many hot chics (the ones that could easily win top 3 spot in beauty contest) holding hands wif a super fugly white guy. Dunno why????
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hahahaha, true, but i also saw very pretty girls go out with normal looking asian guys le.
i think it is just a weird sight only. we will not know whether how long they last, are they escorts,
have they met elsewhere other than sg..

on the other hand, i also find it strange that handsome sg guys happen to be gay, or happen to have
a "fugly" gf. i think its just life..

alternatively, have u seen handsome ang mohs with malay chicks (below average) before? plenty on the streets lasttime,
but getting lesser.. i think they got the "message" when they keep hearing chinese dudes laughing behind their back.
We always call these ang mohs with malay SPGs "newbie expats". since these malay SPGs are normally cheaper than escorts,
its very easy for ang mohs to land a malay SPGs within a week.



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QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 29 2011, 11:39 PM)
02 is the area code for Singapore, just like 03 for Klang Valley, 05 for Ipoh etc. This is known as STD (Subscriber Trunk Dialling) or area call / trunk call. Today, years later, you can still use 02 to call Singapore from Malaysia using Telekom fixed line. Not sure if MY mobile phones can still use STD. No idea if you can still use your SG fixed line to call 03 for KL, 05 for Ipoh etc. SG mobile phones cannot and have to use IDD.

65 is the IDD code for Singapore (International Direct Dial).

+ is the IDD access indicator for mobile phones... basically tells your phone that the next 2 or 3 numbers is an IDD code. Dialling 001 in Singapore and 00 in Malaysia from a fixed line performs the same function. In SG, it's actually cheaper instead to use service provider specific IDD access codes like 018 for Starhub to make IDD calls, rather than + or 001.


Added on November 29, 2011, 11:43 pmSPGs are attracted to expat packages. Fact of life that angmohs in SG are in SG only because their companies pay a premium to bring them here. You seldom find average angmohs coming to Singapore on local pay to do average jobs.
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thanks for the info. but abit strange why msia choose 02 for singapore when johor is 07.
anyway its not true angmohs in sg are there with a premium. i have quite alot of ang moh frens in sg and i can tell u most of them are earning
not far from sg guys. But yes, quite alot of ang mohs in sg have high flyer jobs like CEO, CFO, COO, Consultant. Their companies are not paying
them a premium. Its just that they are retaining their pay grade in their original currency, when they are transferred to sg. Many are brits, americans.
to round off, u are right, the ang mohs will get a job faster, and more money than us. a white in a company look better than a chinese.
thats what me and my ang moh frens agree. (provided they are good at their work la..)

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Nov 29 2011, 11:44 PM)
Too bad, What I saw the ang mohs with expat package mostly have hot chic blonde wives.

How about ang moh who teach in primary school? expat package? most single ang moh in sg like to have minah gfs, they say minah jambu are exotics..minah jambu what I said is the 'indon maid look'
I don't seem to meet those angmohs like the ones you describe. Same like I don't meet many Malaysians who retire at 50 to Penang, nor do I meet many Singaporeans who cannot afford to retire at 50. I also don't meet many retirees who count their retirement packages in terms of the cost of chap fan.

Long story short, I think you're over generalising again, and yet again, asking other people to explain your narrow observations or else accept them as universal truths.


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thanks for the info. but abit strange why msia choose 02 for singapore when johor is 07.
Same reason why Ipoh is 05 when KL is 03. Instead Penang is 04.

QUOTE(SYL17)
anyway its not true angmohs in sg are there with a premium. i have quite alot of ang moh frens in sg and i can tell u most of them are earning
not far from sg guys. But yes, quite alot of ang mohs in sg have high flyer jobs  like CEO, CFO, COO, Consultant. Their  companies are not paying
them a premium. Its just that they are retaining their pay grade in their original currency, when they are transferred to sg. Many are brits, americans.
to round off, u are right, the ang mohs will get a job faster, and more money than us. a white in a company look better than a chinese.
thats what me and my ang moh frens agree. (provided they are good at their work la..)
Your assumption is based on having quite a lot of angmoh friends. Mine is based on approving quite a lot of angmoh expat claims and expenses. Expat packages are very expensive. An average expat in Singapore costs my company around US$300K per year, excluding payroll costs.

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just know that MAMA awards was held in SG tis evening.. dammit.. I missed it.. CB.
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Damn kao lan dou...

just know that MAMA awards was held in SG tis evening.. dammit.. I missed it.. CB.
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you don't agree with whom? wrong quote la..

I prefer the average one la than those models look, the number one is personality above beauty, the better the inner beauty I like. I am someone who can't control my jealousy haha...

mercury84, dun generalise those sg galz.. I heard from my sg friends they prefer asians than whites.
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I spoke to a few in my bank and what they say was that those girls who say they prefer asians could be a) they really prefer asians because of upbringing, etc b) coz they cannot snag a angmoh bf. Those that study or exposed overseas are more angmoh oriented than the local, local ones.
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LCD got many radiations. i prefer LED. plasma is very soft and dark. dun like it

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I spoke to a few in my bank and what they say was that those girls who say they prefer asians could be a) they really prefer asians because of upbringing, etc b) coz they cannot snag a angmoh bf. Those that study or exposed overseas are more angmoh oriented than the local, local ones.
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Honestly still prefer asian boys even after I study overseas hmm.gif There's always the social barrier and I find they like to drink and watch sports, which I don't participate in... And with asian boys no need to always remind them to take off their shoes when they enter a house biggrin.gif
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I spoke to a few in my bank and what they say was that those girls who say they prefer asians could be a) they really prefer asians because of upbringing, etc b) coz they cannot snag a angmoh bf. Those that study or exposed overseas are more angmoh oriented than the local, local ones.
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Damn kao lan dou...

just know that MAMA awards was held in SG tis evening.. dammit.. I missed it.. CB.
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LOL. I'm actually Wee Cho Yaw's son Wee Ee Cheong lurking in LYN.ahahahha
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Honestly still prefer asian boys even after I study overseas  hmm.gif There's always the social barrier and I find they like to drink and watch sports, which I don't participate in... And with asian boys no need to always remind them to take off their shoes when they enter a house  biggrin.gif
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u are a nice gal la, hot chicks will prefer ang moh.
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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Nov 30 2011, 11:08 AM)
Honestly still prefer asian boys even after I study overseas  hmm.gif There's always the social barrier and I find they like to drink and watch sports, which I don't participate in... And with asian boys no need to always remind them to take off their shoes when they enter a house  biggrin.gif
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oh yes, thank you. Such a great help. At the starting point I need to know the "current issues of concern". It helps me a lot if you can give some points for Indonesia just like Singapore, the issues are water and land (but still not enough elaboration, I still need more).
Thanks in advance for your input.



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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Nov 30 2011, 10:32 PM)
oh yes, thank you. Such a great help. At the starting point I need to know the "current issues of concern". It helps me a lot if you can give some points for Indonesia just like Singapore, the issues are water and land (but still not enough elaboration, I still need more).
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Added on December 1, 2011, 11:16 am

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/...129-313433.html

Toyota 86 coming to Singapore mid-2012 drool.gif

With a top speed of 230kmh, the car will be priced to a college graduate's starting salary to attract young buyers, Bloomberg quoted Toyota's chief engineer, Tetsuya Tada, as saying. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 1 2011, 11:11 AM)
Toyota 86 coming to Singapore mid-2012  drool.gif

With a top speed of 230kmh, the car will be priced to a college graduate's starting salary to attract young buyers, Bloomberg quoted Toyota's chief engineer, Tetsuya Tada, as saying.  rolleyes.gif
Got one more sentence leh...

"However, Singapore prices for the 86 have yet to be confirmed."

Me... I think it'll be priced near the Civic Type R/Megane Sport/Focus ST/Golf GTi/RX7 etc to be competitive. So,... 160-180K. If they decide that it's a premium product due to its 86 badging, it could be even higher at Evo X SST, S2000 type pricing.



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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 1 2011, 11:11 AM)
http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/...129-313433.html

Toyota 86 coming to Singapore mid-2012  drool.gif

With a top speed of 230kmh, the car will be priced to a college graduate's starting salary to attract young buyers, Bloomberg quoted Toyota's chief engineer, Tetsuya Tada, as saying.  rolleyes.gif
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As if you can hit that speed in Sg. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Highway pun 90kmh nia. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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As if you can hit that speed in Sg.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Highway pun 90kmh nia.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Then normally you will see those big cars driving like mad fellow on Malaysia's highway.
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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Dec 1 2011, 12:00 PM)
As if you can hit that speed in Sg.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Highway pun 90kmh nia.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
A car that has 200+hp is about a lot more than just top speed. It's also about acceleration, ride and handling. The feel of driving a powerful car, even when driving slowly, is very different.
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A car that has 200+hp is about a lot more than just top speed. It's also about acceleration, ride and handling. The feel of driving a powerful car, even when driving slowly, is very different.
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haha... 5 of us took a ride in lancer evo, hit 140km/h.. my first time sitting in a car with such a high acceleration... the adrenaline rush is even more than roller coaster.. That's in Singapore ... wow.. certainly impressed ....

side note.. also a bad thing about driving fast.. u can really kena fast. colleague just did balancing and thinking to try out with a higher speed took to AYE at 130km/h... sekali only sudah kena.. summon SGD 170. and i think very heavy demerit deduction.. he says one more time and he is OUT...
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hi guys, wanna ask ah..i need to apply EP by my self, then only look for job in SG??
and inside my resume, if my address i fill in my relative home address which is in SG izit better chance for them to consider?
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hi guys, wanna ask ah..i need to apply EP by my self, then only look for job in SG??
and inside my resume, if my address i fill in my relative home address which is in SG izit better chance for them to consider?
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ok seriously.. look for job first, the co will do for u nod.gif
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apply PR first  tongue.gif

ok seriously.. look for job first, the co will do for u  nod.gif
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i'm applying, but no response yet @.@"
btw, i put my Msia address eh..izit ok?

and beside tat, if i apply now, what is the minimum salary for foreigner? still SGD2.8k or 3k??
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QUOTE(LOOOOOOL @ Dec 1 2011, 02:15 PM)
i'm applying, but no response yet @.@"
btw, i put my Msia address eh..izit ok?

and beside tat, if i apply now, what is the minimum salary for foreigner? still SGD2.8k or 3k??
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min for foreigner ? sweat.gif
u mean for ep ? if lower then go WP loh rolleyes.gif
can put both if u want to nod.gif

year end already, school holiday, festive season, year end sales hehe.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(LOOOOOOL @ Dec 1 2011, 02:15 PM)
i'm applying, but no response yet @.@"
btw, i put my Msia address eh..izit ok?

and beside tat, if i apply now, what is the minimum salary for foreigner? still SGD2.8k or 3k??
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Min salary would depends on many factor...skill set/work experience/what field or industry/qualification & etc...
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Min salary would depends on many factor...skill set/work experience/what field or industry/qualification & etc...
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http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp111129_004.shtml

http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread.php?t=45063

PR Foreigner avoid NS after leeching Sg's system
This is the type of PR/converted citizens that the Singapore Govt loves - one who takes all the benefits available to citizens, but yet when it is time for him to fulfil his obligations, he will try his best to avoid. Will the Singapore Govt ever learn?

The Immigration & Checkpoint Authority (ICA) has rejected the application of Zhang Junyi to denounce his Singapore citizenship, citing that he is not yet a legal adult. In addition, the ICA also reminded Zhang of his National Service obligation when he becomes 18 year-old. In response, Zhang sought a judicial review on ICA's decision.

Zhang Junyi filed his request to the Supreme Court through his father Zhang Shaowei. Zhang Junyi was represented by lawyer Lee Jing Xiong who asked the Supreme Court to review the decision of the ICA and the Ministry of Defence on Zhang Junyi's case.

Zhang Junyi urged the Court to rule that he is eligible to renounce his Singapore citizenship, he doesn't qualify for national service, and that his notice to the ICA last year which declared his intention to renounce citizenship is valid.

Zhang Junyi is due for National Service registration soon. He is currently on an exit permit which cleared him for overseas studies. The exit permit will expire on 30 December 2011. The law requires males eligible for National Service to register with the Ministry of Defence when they turn 16.5 years old.

Zhang Junyi's parents Zhang Shaowei and Liang Jiali emigrated to Singapore in January 1996. They converted to Singapore citizenship, along with Zhang Junyi's 2 elder sisters. 2 months after gaining citizenship, they moved to Hongkong.

Zhang Junyi was borned in Hongkong 3 months after his family moved there. Subsequently, Zhang Junyi was granted Singapore citizenship the following Febraury. He lived in Hongkong until he returned to Singapore in 2005 at the age of 10 to study.

In August 2010, Zhang Junyi applied to Hongkong Department of Immigration to restore his Chinese citizenship. Although the Department accepted his application, it was conditional that he relinquishes his Singapore citizenship. 4 months later, Zhang Junyi notified the ICA of his intention to renouce his Singapore citizenship.

However. the ICA rejected his application, citing Section 1, Article 128 of the Singapore Constitution that a citizen can only give up his citizenship when he is above 21 years old and that parents may not make such a decision for the child. The ICA also added that according to Section 2, Article 128 of the Singapore Constitution, Zhang Junyi is obligated to complete his National Service as long as he remains a Singapore citizen.

The Central Manpower Base (CPMB) also suggested that Zhang Junyi should postpone his application for change of citizenship until he has turned 21 years old and that he has completed his National Service. CMPB will consider his application.

In response, Zhang Junyi described the constitutional interpretation of the ICA and the CMPB as "illogical and unfair", citing 3 points. Firstly, the Singapore citizenship was imposed on him because his parents emigrated to Singapore.

Secondly, he is not a 100% citizen because he will only be accorded with full citizenship rights as soon as he relinquished other citizenships within a year after he turned 21 years old. As such, the aforementioned constitutional provisions are irrelevant.

Thirdly, the Enlistment Act does not apply on him because he was less than 16 years old when he first declared his intention to ICA to renounce his Singapore citizenship.

The Attorney General's Chamber (AGC) was notified of the application for judicial review in the middle of November by Zhang Junyi's lawyer Mr Lee Jing Xiong. The pre-conference trial starts today.

Expert: "Interesting" Judicial Review

Constitutional law expert Dr Kevin Tan told Zaobao this would be an "interesting" judicial review. He also pointed out that the Courts rarely take on cases which involve citizenship rights because very few people would submit such issues to the Courts.

He also added that Zhang Junyi may not succeed in securing a judicial review because both the ICA and the CMPB did not act wilfully or irregularly, and as well as exceed their jurisdictions.

Dr Kevin Tan said that Article 128 of the Singapore Constitution appears absolute and that only Singaporeans above the age of 21 are eligible to renounce their citizenship.

Few days ago, Minster of Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen revealed in Parliament 8800 sons of new immigrants had been enlisted for National Service over the last five years. Among them, 6100 (70%) opted to become Singapore citizens.

However, among second-generation permanent residents, 4200 gave up their permanent residency over the same period. In another words, for every three sons of permanent residents, two would enlist while one would give up his permanent residency status in order to forgo national service.

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u are a nice gal la, hot chicks will prefer ang moh.
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Nov 30 2011, 10:28 PM)
Ok. One of the rare ones..., you free next sat for dinner wif me??? Let's call it a date.  wink.gif hahah
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 1 2011, 03:47 PM)
PR Foreigner avoid NS after leeching Sg's system

IMO hope the courts throw out the case and make him serve his NS.

Anyway the 2011/2012 Asia's Top 20 restaurants in the Miele Guide ... SG has 5 restaurants. Any of you high flyers with corporate card eaten at any of them before? seantang?
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Guys, How can I get to senai airport from singapore immigration check point by public bus?


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QUOTE(wickedghost @ Dec 1 2011, 07:18 PM)
Guys, How can I get to senai airport from singapore immigration check point by public bus?
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take 170. get down at city square. take bus to senai from there.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 1 2011, 06:54 PM)
Anyway the 2011/2012 Asia's Top 20 restaurants in the Miele Guide ... SG has 5 restaurants. Any of you high flyers with corporate card eaten at any of them before?
I've only been to Iggy's.

Food's good, if you like that sorta couture cuisine (and you don't mind the waiter repeatedly interrupting your conversation to explain the course and incessantly asking how's the food). Small portions, huge plates and lots of useless artsy fartsy drawings using jams, sauces and condiments on the vast empty portions of the said plate. Personally, I don't see what's the big deal about Western fine dining. IMHO, very little value for the price paid.
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 1 2011, 03:47 PM)
PR Foreigner avoid NS after leeching Sg's system
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 1 2011, 03:47 PM)
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp111129_004.shtml

http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread.php?t=45063

PR Foreigner avoid NS after leeching Sg's system
This is the type of PR/converted citizens that the Singapore Govt loves - one who takes all the benefits available to citizens, but yet when it is time for him to fulfil his obligations, he will try his best to avoid. Will the Singapore Govt ever learn?

The Immigration & Checkpoint Authority (ICA) has rejected the application of Zhang Junyi to denounce his Singapore citizenship, citing that he is not yet a legal adult. In addition, the ICA also reminded Zhang of his National Service obligation when he becomes 18 year-old. In response, Zhang sought a judicial review on ICA's decision.

Zhang Junyi filed his request to the Supreme Court through his father Zhang Shaowei. Zhang Junyi was represented by lawyer Lee Jing Xiong who asked the Supreme Court to review the decision of the ICA and the Ministry of Defence on Zhang Junyi's case.

Zhang Junyi urged the Court to rule that he is eligible to renounce his Singapore citizenship, he doesn't qualify for national service, and that his notice to the ICA last year which declared his intention to renounce citizenship is valid.

Zhang Junyi is due for National Service registration soon. He is currently on an exit permit which cleared him for overseas studies. The exit permit will expire on 30 December 2011. The law requires males eligible for National Service to register with the Ministry of Defence when they turn 16.5 years old.

Zhang Junyi's parents Zhang Shaowei and Liang Jiali emigrated to Singapore in January 1996. They converted to Singapore citizenship, along with Zhang Junyi's 2 elder sisters. 2 months after gaining citizenship, they moved to Hongkong.

Zhang Junyi was borned in Hongkong 3 months after his family moved there. Subsequently, Zhang Junyi was granted Singapore citizenship the following Febraury. He lived in Hongkong until he returned to Singapore in 2005 at the age of 10 to study.

In August 2010, Zhang Junyi applied to Hongkong Department of Immigration to restore his Chinese citizenship. Although the Department accepted his application, it was conditional that he relinquishes his Singapore citizenship. 4 months later, Zhang Junyi notified the ICA of his intention to renouce his Singapore citizenship.

However. the ICA rejected his application, citing Section 1, Article 128 of the Singapore Constitution that a citizen can only give up his citizenship when he is above 21 years old and that parents may not make such a decision for the child. The ICA also added that according to Section 2, Article 128 of the Singapore Constitution, Zhang Junyi is obligated to complete his National Service as long as he remains a Singapore citizen.

The Central Manpower Base (CPMB) also suggested that Zhang Junyi should postpone his application for change of citizenship until he has turned 21 years old and that he has completed his National Service. CMPB will consider his application.

In response, Zhang Junyi described the constitutional interpretation of the ICA and the CMPB as "illogical and unfair", citing 3 points. Firstly, the Singapore citizenship was imposed on him because his parents emigrated to Singapore.

Secondly, he is not a 100% citizen because he will only be accorded with full citizenship rights as soon as he relinquished other citizenships within a year after he turned 21 years old. As such, the aforementioned constitutional provisions are irrelevant.

Thirdly, the Enlistment Act does not apply on him because he was less than 16 years old when he first declared his intention to ICA to renounce his Singapore citizenship.

The Attorney General's Chamber (AGC) was notified of the application for judicial review in the middle of November by Zhang Junyi's lawyer Mr Lee Jing Xiong. The pre-conference trial starts today.

Expert: "Interesting" Judicial Review

Constitutional law expert Dr Kevin Tan told Zaobao this would be an "interesting" judicial review. He also pointed out that the Courts rarely take on cases which involve citizenship rights because very few people would submit such issues to the Courts.

He also added that Zhang Junyi may not succeed in securing a judicial review because both the ICA and the CMPB did not act wilfully or irregularly, and as well as exceed their jurisdictions.

Dr Kevin Tan said that Article 128 of the Singapore Constitution appears absolute and that only Singaporeans above the age of 21 are eligible to renounce their citizenship.

Few days ago, Minster of Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen revealed in Parliament 8800 sons of new immigrants had been enlisted for National Service over the last five years. Among them, 6100 (70%) opted to become Singapore citizens.

However, among second-generation permanent residents, 4200 gave up their permanent residency over the same period. In another words, for every three sons of permanent residents, two would enlist while one would give up his permanent residency status in order to forgo national service.
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This china fella has become a true blue singaporean. Will do pretty much anything to excape NS, just like one guy who faked a mental illness to escape reservist duty.

His medical report is hilarious and even more so that the doctor actually diagnosed him as such.


Added on December 2, 2011, 8:32 am
QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Dec 1 2011, 09:58 PM)
all those PRCs, ang neh neh, pinoys and banglas giving FTs a bad  name  sweat.gif
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Malaysians are usually in a sub-category of the FT's as compared to the PRC's, indian, bangla etc.

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Say NO to AIRPORT TAX INCREASE shakehead.gif

Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB) has increased the airport tax* for all international outgoing flights starting 1st December 2011.

AirAsia views that this increase is not justified as the current airport facilities are not up to par.

http://www.airasia.com/my/en/latestnews/ai...x-increase.page

http://www.eglobaltravelmedia.com.au/airli...n-airports.html

Beginning 1 December 2011, all AirAsia guests flying to international destinations from Malaysia will be subjected to new Passenger Service Charge (PSC) rates, as Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB) implemented an increase of the PSC for all international flights departing from airports throughout Malaysia.
The PSC, commonly referred to as ‘airport tax’, is paid by guests and collected by AirAsia on behalf of MAHB. All amount collected are channeled to the airport operator, with none of the sum shared by AirAsia.

The airport tax raise will be effective starting 00:01hrs (GMT +8) on 1 December 2011, and all international flights purchased on 1 December onwards will include the revised airport tax rate.
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 2 2011, 09:42 AM)
Say NO to AIRPORT TAX INCREASE  shakehead.gif

Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB) has increased the airport tax* for all international outgoing flights starting 1st December 2011.

AirAsia views that this increase is not justified as the current airport facilities are not up to par.

http://www.airasia.com/my/en/latestnews/ai...x-increase.page

http://www.eglobaltravelmedia.com.au/airli...n-airports.html

Beginning 1 December 2011, all AirAsia guests flying to international destinations from Malaysia will be subjected to new Passenger Service Charge (PSC) rates, as Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB) implemented an increase of the PSC for all international flights departing from airports throughout Malaysia.
The PSC, commonly referred to as ‘airport tax’, is paid by guests and collected by AirAsia on behalf of MAHB. All amount collected are channeled to the airport operator, with none of the sum shared by AirAsia.

The airport tax raise will be effective starting 00:01hrs (GMT +8) on 1 December 2011, and all international flights purchased on 1 December onwards will include the revised airport tax rate.
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Im not so concerned about this since i usually take the bus back to malaysia and even if i do fly there, its for business and the company covers that.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Dec 2 2011, 09:51 AM)
Im not so concerned about this since i usually take the bus back to malaysia and even if i do fly there, its for business and the company covers that.
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i also need to switch to bus already, just that i din see the reason of the increase
lately AA quite strict on the 7kg hand carry, web check in and service is not exactly is there

there was a mornin i reach lcct to do the web check in using my phone, all machine was down, i went to the counter and bang table to resolve it. but problem is not everybody so thick skin, i saw this gal searching high and low for other available machine and none is exist, almost departing time already and morning q is quite heavy sweat.gif

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RM14 is still better for me.
10 hours+ coach < 2 hours+ fly and waiting time
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 2 2011, 10:06 AM)
i also need to switch to bus already, just that i din see the reason of the increase
lately AA quite strict on the 7kg hand carry, web check in and service is not exactly is there 

there was a mornin i reach lcct to do the web check in using my phone, all machine was down, i went to the counter and bang table to resolve it.  but problem is not everybody so thick skin, i saw this gal searching high and low for other available machine and none is exist, almost departing time already and morning q is quite heavy  sweat.gif
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Kesian most people stay in KL or further up north.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Dec 2 2011, 10:17 AM)
Kesian most people stay in KL or further up north.
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Stay in KL still ok.. easily assessible with airline or coaches or car...

last time I drive at 150km/h only need 2 hrs.

But kesian those who stay in Kedah, Pinang, Kuantan or Sabah...
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 2 2011, 10:06 AM)
i also need to switch to bus already, just that i din see the reason of the increase
lately AA quite strict on the 7kg hand carry, web check in and service is not exactly is there 

there was a mornin i reach lcct to do the web check in using my phone, all machine was down, i went to the counter and bang table to resolve it.  but problem is not everybody so thick skin, i saw this gal searching high and low for other available machine and none is exist, almost departing time already and morning q is quite heavy  sweat.gif
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So they did check the bag's weight to be exactly 7kg also ? It must be a big hassle for everyone to start removing items from their bag.. I think many would easily packed over 7kg in the hand carry bags...
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QUOTE(wseng @ Dec 2 2011, 12:02 PM)
So they did check the bag's weight to be exactly 7kg also ? It must be a big hassle for everyone to start removing items from their bag.. I think many would easily packed over 7kg in the hand carry bags...
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Yes, after you check-in luggage, AA may ask you to put your hand-luggage onto the belt to weigh it.

Notebook bag, they also ask you open to show a notebook inside, but more lenient on the weight wink.gif provided the stuff inside "looks related", like mouse, adapter, cables, charger, wink.gif

If other bag, very strict on 7kg.

Females handbag - if big, they also ask to weigh it. e.g. bigger than a pack of pagoda peanuts (large).

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 2 2011, 10:06 AM)
there was a mornin i reach lcct to do the web check in using my phone, all machine was down, i went to the counter and bang table to resolve it.  but problem is not everybody so thick skin, i saw this gal searching high and low for other available machine and none is exist, almost departing time already and morning q is quite heavy  sweat.gif

yesterday i took AA's 6.25am flight. On the web check in form it clearly states "baggage drop counter open 3.30am to 5.30am." Reached T1 at 4.25am, had to wait for the AA people to slowly and happily finish their coffee & sit down at their booths, they only opened baggage drop at 4.50am. Pity the angmoh and singaporean in front of me who were there since 3.45!

QUOTE(wseng @ Dec 2 2011, 12:02 PM)
So they did check the bag's weight to be exactly 7kg also ? It must be a big hassle for everyone to start removing items from their bag.. I think many would easily packed over 7kg in the hand carry bags...

At the baggage drop coutner they will ask you to put your hand luggage on the belt. i guess they weigh it that time.
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It's usual at LCCT KL here. They only open the check-in luggage counter around 30-40 min before gate-open/departure.

Normally, if 7am flight, just reach there 6am.
Else reach there 5:30am, go breakfast, then only check-in luggage at 6-6:20am.
Reach gate by 6:45am still alright. No need kiasu, as all have seating number already, except some idiots who will put their cabin luggage in front and not at their own seat (overhead).

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Already bought air ticket to go back during CNY ?


I'm leaving at Friday night, 20 Jan by driving back to KL.


Anyone want to join ? since i'm alone driving back to home. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hey, I have just received an invitation of interview at singapore.
The venue of interview is located at mcdonalds.
I felt that it is very weird.
Did anyone tried before?
Should I go?
Thank for everyone's advice.
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QUOTE(junky_89 @ Dec 2 2011, 05:12 PM)
Hey, I have just received an invitation of interview at singapore.
The venue of interview is located at mcdonalds.
I felt that it is very weird.
Did anyone tried before?
Should I go?
Thank for everyone's advice.
Since you're interviewing to be a McDonald's crew member, that's not so weird lah.

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Hey, I have just received an invitation of interview at singapore.
The venue of interview is located at mcdonalds.
I felt that it is very weird.
Did anyone tried before?
Should I go?
Thank for everyone's advice.
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weird leh, most of the time they held at KFC rolleyes.gif

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Since you're interviewing to be a McDonald's crew member, that's not so weird lah.
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I'm not interview with mcdonald crew member. is another company.

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QUOTE(junky_89 @ Dec 2 2011, 06:39 PM)
I'm not interview with mcdonald crew member. is another company.
Oic. If that's the case, I only know of 2 situations where they want to hold interview at McDonald's. Both are very dangerous situations. But you shouldn't worry, because based on what you have described about your job and that company, it will not fall under those situations.

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I'm not interview with mcdonald crew member. is another company.
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I saw before an interview in coffee bean KL ..
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Already bought air ticket to go back during CNY ?
I'm leaving at Friday night, 20 Jan by driving back to KL.
Anyone want to join ? since i'm alone driving back to home.    icon_rolleyes.gif
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too late lor... bought bus tics liao...


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i kena 3 times. 1 time nearly missed my flight to thai from sg as transit after early morning from kl to sg.
dare not AA or any lcc again unless timing not right.
AA & lcc is out of my list except when no choice.

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QUOTE(junky_89 @ Dec 2 2011, 05:12 PM)
Hey, I have just received an invitation of interview at singapore.
The venue of interview is located at mcdonalds.
I felt that it is very weird.
Did anyone tried before?
Should I go?
Thank for everyone's advice.
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this is new. an 'open concept' interview maybe ? I think they always do that in US for high position like CEO/COO/CFO ....

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this is new. an 'open concept' interview maybe ? I think they always do that in US for high position like CEO/COO/CFO ....
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seriously? But i felt quite weird.. dun know should attend or not...
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seriously? But i felt quite weird.. dun know should attend or not...
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Haven't you read about Singaporeans rejecting jobs because the workplaces were situated in "ulu" places like Tuas?

Prior to landing my job, I attended interviews with 3 MNCs and the interview locations were 1st MNC's storeroom, a Starbucks-styled coffee bistro near the 2nd MNC in town, and one of the 3rd MNC's meeting rooms.

Why wouldn't you attend the interview anyway? If ego is a limiting factor, I humbly suggest getting rid of it.
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seriously? But i felt quite weird.. dun know should attend or not...
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just a McD, not those hourly rated hotel room what's so weird about it?

but many insurance agent also using that place to "interview" potential "invester", good luck.

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McD still ok, at least not foodcourt or kopitiam lol

McD also have advantage if you are nervous person as these environment make you feel less tense compared to meeting/boardroom
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its for decoration la... btw, guess who is the supplier of those equipments

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 3 2011, 09:24 AM)
this is new. an 'open concept' interview maybe ? I think they always do that in US for high position like CEO/COO/CFO ....
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lol... tai kor very funny  rclxms.gif
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really ! Steve Jobs used to interview and hire his top ppl this way.

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Already bought air ticket to go back during CNY ?
I'm leaving at Friday night, 20 Jan by driving back to KL.
Anyone want to join ? since i'm alone driving back to home.    icon_rolleyes.gif
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I PM-ed you but no reply from you yet.

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Already bought air ticket to go back during CNY ?
I'm leaving at Friday night, 20 Jan by driving back to KL.
Anyone want to join ? since i'm alone driving back to home.    icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hihi can I join the car to half way of the journey and drop me at Melaka toll ?
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singapore is getting sand from cambodia, vietnam, philipines, myanmar, malaysia and indonesia......however, there are many free sands from australia, saudi, africa if singapore can figure a way to get it.....their desert full of sand... tongue.gif
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That means Singapore is heavily dependant on neighbouring countries for water and sand. Is Singapore's internal and foreign policies are being dictated by the neighbouring countries? Can we conclude that Singapore cannot stand on her own feet and must have the support from cambodia, vietnam, philipines, myanmar, malaysia and indonesia? Can we say that these neighbours are pulling Singapore's nose where ever they want Singapore to go? If the West like American and European cease to have any trade with Singapore, would they able to survive?
Under the history, Singapore was one of the poorest nation in the 1960s after they came out from Malaya. Since then they have become so prosperous and developed largely owe to the support from the West.



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That means Singapore is heavily dependant on neighbouring countries for water and sand. Is Singapore's internal and foreign policies are being dictated by the neighbouring countries? Can we conclude that Singapore cannot stand on her own feet and must have the support from cambodia, vietnam, philipines, myanmar, malaysia and indonesia? Can we say that these neighbours are pulling Singapore's nose where ever they want Singapore to go? If the West like American and European cease to have any trade with Singapore, would they able to survive?
Under the history, Singapore was one of the poorest nation in the 1960s after they came out from Malaya. Since then they have become so prosperous and developed largely owe to the support from the West.
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soon, sg wont need water from msia... and sand, it is just business... $$$ buy you anything

actually it is the rest that needs support from sg, look at msia n indon begging sg for investment...

sg is becoming like israel, a haven for elites... sg dont really depend on us n europe for trade... they depend more on asean countries... with us n europe is for business not trade

actually they werent that poor as compared to msia... but they did well


Added on December 3, 2011, 11:49 pmMalaysia ... US$42 billion (14.7% of total Singapore exports)
United States $33 billion ... (11.5%)
Indonesia ... $30 billion (10.7%)
Hong Kong ... $29 billion (10.4%)
China ... $27 billion (9.5%)
Japan ... $17 billion (6%)
Thailand ... $13 billion (4.5%)
Australia ... $12 billion (4.1%)

Malaysia ... $35 billion (14.4% of total Singapore imports)
United States ... $31 billion (12.4%)
China ... $27 billion (10.8%)
Japan ... $25 billion (10.1%)
Indonesia ...$14 billion (5.5%)
Saudi Arabia ... $12 billion (4.7%)
South Korea ... $11 billion (4.5%)


http://daniel-workman.suite101.com/singapo...-buddies-a14622

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IMO that guy just wrote some long winded bullsh*t. My salary (on my offer letter) is quoted X per annum. If I'm paid weekly it's X/52 per week. Monthly it's X/12 per month. At the end exactly the same also what.
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bah, i wouldnt be bothered too much.. whistling.gif although i hate it so much that my bonus is such a huge % of my income... if only my salary is higher and bonus is less... zzz
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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Dec 4 2011, 05:53 AM)
Nothing to shout about, it's called AWS(Annual wage supplement) for a reason, not 13th month bonus or other BS bonus.
Also the same thing with annual increment. Generally people would take it as if it's really an increment. Bear in mind if the % is lower or the same as inflation rate, it is nothing more than a salary adjustment, for the sake of maintaining the same level of comfort/lifestyle.

Anyway, something interesting about the blog:
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In reality, if they pay us back the '13th month bonus', they employer still owe us 1 day's wages (29 - 28) and get away with it year after year, decade after decade. If you leave the company before the year is up your '13th month bonus' is forfeited instead of pro-rated. That's robbery.
Anyone of you here get any pro-rated AWS when you leave a company before 31st Dec?
Most of the employment contract states that one must work until the last day of the year in order to be entitled of full amount AWS.
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That means Singapore is heavily dependant on neighbouring countries for water and sand. Is Singapore's internal and foreign policies are being dictated by the neighbouring countries? Can we conclude that Singapore cannot stand on her own feet and must have the support from cambodia, vietnam, philipines, myanmar, malaysia and indonesia? Can we say that these neighbours are pulling Singapore's nose where ever they want Singapore to go? If the West like American and European cease to have any trade with Singapore, would they able to survive?
Under the history, Singapore was one of the poorest nation in the 1960s after they came out from Malaya. Since then they have become so prosperous and developed largely owe to the support from the West.
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I laugh at your idiotic efforts in trolling Singapore and you don't need to send me anymore PMs to ask me to ease off on you because I won't.

Don't give us that sh*te about writing your thesis because it's all bullcrap! You are just here to voice your jealousy and hatred towards Singapore!

Singapore is prosperous due to their OWN efforts and they were not one of the poorest nations after they became independent in the 1960s - want to write a so-called thesis and you don't even have the basic facts correct. WTF....
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Anyway, something interesting about the blog:
Anyone of you here get any pro-rated AWS when you leave a company before 31st Dec?
Most of the employment contract states that one must work until the last day of the year in order to be entitled of full amount AWS.
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my Co give pro-rated AWS if you leave early, bonus also pro-rated rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Dec 4 2011, 10:01 AM)
bah, i wouldnt be bothered too much..  whistling.gif  although i hate it so much that my bonus is such a huge % of my income... if only my salary is higher and bonus is less... zzz
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Congrats bro, for getting a high bonus. Low wage worker like me can only just jelly you.


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(CNN) -- New Zealand is perceived as the least corrupt nation on earth, and Somalia and North Korea are seen as the most corrupt, a German watchdog organization said in a report released this week.
The United States ranked 24th least corrupt on a "corruption perceptions index," the fourth-highest in the Western Hemisphere. Canada ranked 10th, the Bahamas is 21st and Chile is 22nd.
Overall, the top spots are occupied mostly by European countries, with the exception of New Zealand, Singapore at No. 5 and Australia, which is tied for eighth with Switzerland. Other nations with top rankings are Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway and the Netherlands.
In addition to Somalia and North Korea, which are tied for last at No. 182, the bottom of the list includes Myanmar, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Sudan, Iraq, Haiti and Venezuela.
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http://www.transparency.org/policy_researc...pi/2010/results

SOS

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The company owes you the 29 days IF you are a DAILY WAGE worker who HAPPENS to be paid on a (calendar) monthly interval.

Most professional or graduate grade staff are paid calendar month salaries. Your salary in your employment contract is denominated by calendar month.

I'm not sure what local Singapore law is, about AWS. In my company, AWS is paid to employees on payroll as at the 25th (pay day) December. So as long you're still on payroll on Dec 25, even if serving resignation notice, your December paycheck will be 2X your monthly salary. No pro rata if you resign too early. Funny thing is our bonus is prorated however. Maybe because it's actually a separate annual global contract which has it's own dates and criteria.


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QUOTE(bellion @ Dec 4 2011, 10:36 AM)
I laugh at your idiotic efforts in trolling Singapore and you don't need to send me anymore PMs to ask me to ease off on you because I won't.
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I laugh at your idiotic efforts in trolling Singapore and you don't need to send me anymore PMs to ask me to ease off on you because I won't.

Don't give us that sh*te about writing your thesis because it's all bullcrap!  You are just here to voice your jealousy and hatred towards Singapore!

Singapore is prosperous due to their OWN efforts and they were not one of the poorest nations after they became independent in the 1960s - want to write a so-called thesis and you don't even have the basic facts correct.  WTF....
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Why leh?

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Nothing to shout about, it's called AWS(Annual wage supplement) for a reason, not 13th month bonus or other BS bonus.
Also the same thing with annual increment. Generally people would take it as if it's really an increment. Bear in mind if the % is lower or the same as inflation rate, it is nothing more than a salary adjustment, for the sake of maintaining the same level of comfort/lifestyle.

Anyway, something interesting about the blog:
Anyone of you here get any pro-rated AWS when you leave a company before 31st Dec?
Most of the employment contract states that one must work until the last day of the year in order to be entitled of full amount AWS.
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clever people will start own business. Don't complain if you are employees
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my Co give pro-rated AWS if you leave early, bonus also pro-rated  rclxms.gif


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Congrats bro, for getting a high bonus. Low wage worker like me can only just jelly you.


Added on December 4, 2011, 11:14 am
(CNN) -- New Zealand is perceived as the least corrupt nation on earth, and Somalia and North Korea are seen as the most corrupt, a German watchdog organization said in a report released this week.
The United States ranked 24th least corrupt on a "corruption perceptions index," the fourth-highest in the Western Hemisphere. Canada ranked 10th, the Bahamas is 21st and Chile is 22nd.
Overall, the top spots are occupied mostly by European countries, with the exception of New Zealand, Singapore at No. 5 and Australia, which is tied for eighth with Switzerland. Other nations with top rankings are Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway and the Netherlands.
In addition to Somalia and North Korea, which are tied for last at No. 182, the bottom of the list includes Myanmar, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Sudan, Iraq, Haiti and Venezuela.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


http://www.transparency.org/policy_researc...pi/2010/results

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my Co give pro-rated AWS if you leave early, bonus also pro-rated  rclxms.gif


Added on December 4, 2011, 10:47 am

Congrats bro, for getting a high bonus. Low wage worker like me can only just jelly you.


Added on December 4, 2011, 11:14 am
(CNN) -- New Zealand is perceived as the least corrupt nation on earth, and Somalia and North Korea are seen as the most corrupt, a German watchdog organization said in a report released this week.
The United States ranked 24th least corrupt on a "corruption perceptions index," the fourth-highest in the Western Hemisphere. Canada ranked 10th, the Bahamas is 21st and Chile is 22nd.
Overall, the top spots are occupied mostly by European countries, with the exception of New Zealand, Singapore at No. 5 and Australia, which is tied for eighth with Switzerland. Other nations with top rankings are Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway and the Netherlands.
In addition to Somalia and North Korea, which are tied for last at No. 182, the bottom of the list includes Myanmar, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Sudan, Iraq, Haiti and Venezuela.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


http://www.transparency.org/policy_researc...pi/2010/results

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Does corruption include the collusion and nepotism? If it is included I wonder how sg will be ranked?

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Does corruption include the collusion and nepotism? If it is included I wonder how sg will be ranked?
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Look at the current PM and the 1st PM. Any family relationship?


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Look at the current PM and the 1st PM. Any family relationship?
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look at tin pei ling la.. at least in Malaysia, nobody can be her at 27 yrs old haha..
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look at tin pei ling la.. at least in Malaysia, nobody can be her at 27 yrs old haha.
Khairy, Mokzhani, Mukriz, Ling brothers, Nurul etc, and all those tengkus and whatnot kerabat eg. Naza, Gamuda... ring a bell?

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Khairy, Mokzhani, Mukriz, Ling brothers, Nurul etc, and all those tengkus and whatnot kerabat eg. Naza, Gamuda... ring a bell?
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guess there is relationship in the play everywhere.. and world is not fair !!
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guess there is relationship in the play everywhere.. and world is not fair !!
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Guess the fella pushed himself too much or he may have an underlining heart condition.
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Khairy, Mokzhani, Mukriz, Ling brothers, Nurul etc, and all those tengkus and whatnot kerabat eg. Naza, Gamuda... ring a bell?
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+1. Again, generalization. Shall we ignore?


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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Dec 4 2011, 08:20 PM)
In swiss nobody took election.
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Point being?

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look at tin pei ling la.. at least in Malaysia, nobody can be her at 27 yrs old haha..
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the young ah hai in another land do more harm than his peer in SG.

I rather have TPL in MY parliment than a person who keep talking BS and try to be a hero.


Added on December 5, 2011, 11:11 amUnlike Malaysia where gov servant will get pension pay out when their retired, many SG public servant do not have pension at all (except minister and the like). So the 13-month bonus(or Non-Pensionable Annual Allowance (NPAA) ) is their compensation for pension, usualy at its maximum of 1 month but it can be zero during real bad economy.

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I PM-ed you but no reply from you yet.

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Some other LYN member already PM me earlier.. sorry about that. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


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Hihi can I join the car to half way of the journey and drop me at Melaka toll ?
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sorry, my car already fully booked ~ notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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Hi Hokin.
Some other LYN member already PM me earlier.. sorry about that.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif


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I wan to know if earning sgd4k in sg how much can I save?how much to rent a room there?
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I wan to know if earning sgd4k in sg how much can I save?how much to rent a room there?
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Added on December 5, 2011, 11:11 amUnlike Malaysia where gov servant will get pension pay out when their retired, many SG public servant do not have pension at all (except minister and the like). So the 13-month bonus(or Non-Pensionable Annual Allowance (NPAA) ) is their compensation for pension, usualy at its maximum of 1 month but it can be zero during real bad economy.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Dec 6 2011, 01:14 AM)
I also want people in MY government to have 30k/month so they don't need to corrupt and don't need the pensions

What nonsense you talking about la. Just bumping their salaries to 30k/month won't make the system any less corrupt. Those YB's songlap runs in the tens and hundreds of millions of ringgit (and probably even another magnitude higher in the case of Sarawak's beloved Taib Mahmud), you think 30k a month gonna make any difference?


Added on December 6, 2011, 7:57 am
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I wan to know if earning sgd4k in sg how much can I save?how much to rent a room there?

food+groceries 1.3k
transport 200
other utilities & misc expenses 100
room ... 300 to 800

your mileage may vary.

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I also want people in MY government to have 30k/month so they don't need to corrupt and don't need the pensions
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30k..? not even enough for just one unit of cow condo downpayment.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 6 2011, 07:54 AM)
What nonsense you talking about la. Just bumping their salaries to 30k/month won't make the system any less corrupt. Those YB's songlap runs in the tens and hundreds of millions of ringgit (and probably even another magnitude higher in the case of Sarawak's beloved Taib Mahmud), you think 30k a month gonna make any difference?


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food+groceries 1.3k
transport 200
other utilities & misc expenses 100
room ... 300 to 800

your mileage may vary.
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food + groceries @ 1.3k?

Must be a lot of fat & calories in there...

You know, the economists have a consensus on public and private property prices - downtrend. Yet, i checked @ HDB website on public property prices around my neighbourhood, buyers paying ridiculous premium. Either these buyers have a bulk of cash holdings, or Singapore is an outlier. Given the expected downtrend, rental prices should will trend southward. Banks will negotiate for 'top-up' if it goes below the threshold in SPA. With a lower "market price", rental yield should adjust itself.

The last thing Sg Govt & foreign investors want in Singapore is property prices dropped.


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 6 2011, 07:54 AM)
What nonsense you talking about la. Just bumping their salaries to 30k/month won't make the system any less corrupt. Those YB's songlap runs in the tens and hundreds of millions of ringgit (and probably even another magnitude higher in the case of Sarawak's beloved Taib Mahmud), you think 30k a month gonna make any difference?


Added on December 6, 2011, 7:57 am
food+groceries 1.3k
transport 200
other utilities & misc expenses 100
room ... 300 to 800

your mileage may vary.
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Just to add on... we did a calculation last time..
if really were to save on money i think overall expenses of around SGD1.5k (include everything from room to makan)
is quite feasible..

Room : SGD 500-700
Makan : SGD 5 per meal (5 x 3 x 30)
Mobile phone : SGD 30
Transport : SGD 5 per day (5 x 30)
Misc : SGD 200

Adds up : 500+450+150+200 = SGD 1300

hence.. probably can get a 2.5k a month ..
then savings of 1k per month ..
12k per year, and within 5 years.. can get 60k...
That's RM 144k....

That's a very conservative figure...

I would see that as quite a handsome sum as maybe many in the twenties working in MY would not achieve this easily...

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QUOTE(keelim @ Dec 6 2011, 09:37 AM)
food + groceries @ 1.3k?

Must be a lot of fat & calories in there...
Not really leh. Depends on how you eat. My lunch is typically between $10-15 (Jack's Place, Crystal Jade Kitchen, bento lunch etc). Even if it's chap fan, a nice piece of fish, meat and 3 veges will cost $6-7 bucks. Including a drink, averaging about $30-40 a day for 3 meals. Then each weekend, my groceries will be about $50-$100. And if go to nice restaurants and have a durian weekend... the it all goes to hell.

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Not really leh. Depends on how you eat. My lunch is typically between $10-15 (Jack's Place, Crystal Jade Kitchen, bento lunch etc). Even if it's chap fan, a nice piece of fish, meat and 3 veges will cost $6-7 bucks. Including a drink, averaging about $30-40 a day for 3 meals. Then each weekend, my groceries will be about $50-$100. And if go to nice restaurants and have a durian weekend... the it all goes to hell.
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You different lah.. perhaps u are a high earner earning $5K to $8K a mth.

I am just an Myanmar worker earning $1.5K... everyday white rice with curry gravy only.
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QUOTE(wseng @ Dec 6 2011, 10:12 AM)
Just to add on... we did a calculation last time..
if really were to save on money i think overall expenses of around SGD1.5k (include everything from room to makan)
is quite feasible..

Room : SGD 500-700
Makan : SGD 5 per meal (5 x 3 x 30)
Mobile phone : SGD 30
Transport : SGD 5 per day (5 x 30)
Misc : SGD 200

Adds up : 500+450+150+200 = SGD 1300

hence.. probably can get a 2.5k a month ..
then savings of 1k per month ..
12k per year, and within 5 years.. can get 60k...
That's RM 144k....

That's a very conservative figure...

I would see that as quite a handsome sum as maybe many in the twenties working in MY would not achieve this easily...
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Saving RM144K in 5 yrs is not alot actually...
Buy a car in KL already lost RM60K, downpayment for a property will add-in another RM50K, buy some shares another RM30K.. that is for 5 yrs of savings.
Now I target to save RM120K per year or RM600K in 5 years.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Dec 6 2011, 12:04 PM)
Not really leh. Depends on how you eat. My lunch is typically between $10-15 (Jack's Place, Crystal Jade Kitchen, bento lunch etc). Even if it's chap fan, a nice piece of fish, meat and 3 veges will cost $6-7 bucks. Including a drink, averaging about $30-40 a day for 3 meals. Then each weekend, my groceries will be about $50-$100. And if go to nice restaurants and have a durian weekend... the it all goes to hell.
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Walau this one really extravagant lunch. How is it even possible to finish 1 fish, 1 meat and 3 veggie chap fan??? I max max also 1 meat and 3 veggie for S$3.50....anything more stomache also burst..
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ok.. since people are posting transport so fast.. i also post mine.

I will be driving back from AMK to KL on the 20th Jan 2011 around 7-8pm.
come back from KL- JB on the 24th Jan. anyone interested?

Editted : I am driving a Myvi only. so i prefer 3 passenger max.

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 6 2011, 12:30 PM)
Saving RM144K in 5 yrs is not alot actually...
Buy a car in KL already lost RM60K, downpayment for a property will add-in another RM50K, buy some shares another RM30K.. that is for 5 yrs of savings.
Now I target to save RM120K per year or RM600K in 5 years.
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He is making an assumption of those earning $2.5k with saving of $1k/mth.

If your earning power is higher, ur target of RM120k/annum by no mean is achievable...


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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Dec 6 2011, 12:31 PM)
Walau this one really extravagant lunch. How is it even possible to finish 1 fish, 1 meat and 3 veggie chap fan??? I max max also 1 meat and 3 veggie for S$3.50....anything more stomache also burst..
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power ! I normal 2 meats, 1 fish & 1 vege @ 2.50, ice tea free when eat at Co canteen. when outside i eat 2 vege 1 meat smile.gif

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QUOTE(keelim @ Dec 6 2011, 09:37 AM)
food + groceries @ 1.3k?

Must be a lot of fat & calories in there...

Eh I think this is a "reasonable" food budget. I normally have lunch at this salad place near my office ($9.90). Dinner eat simple like Ramen already $20-$25. Breakfast budget $3 for cereal or toast+kopi or whatever set and that's already $1k+ not counting snacks, drinks, weekends (where you go out and eat $50+ dinners.
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Dec 6 2011, 12:31 PM)
Walau this one really extravagant lunch. How is it even possible to finish 1 fish, 1 meat and 3 veggie chap fan??? I max max also 1 meat and 3 veggie for S$3.50....anything more stomache also burst..
Don't eat the rice lah... or eat less of it.

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He is making an assumption of those earning $2.5k with saving of $1k/mth.

If your earning power is higher, ur target of RM120k/annum by no mean is achievable...
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yeah...

if you would compare people who is making RM2.5k in KL . .and SGD2.5k in Singapore..
so the guy in Singapore would be very luxurious already ...while in KL .. is just trying to get the ends to meet..
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 6 2011, 12:27 PM)
You different lah.. perhaps u are a high earner earning $5K to $8K a mth.

I am just an Myanmar worker earning $1.5K... everyday white rice with curry gravy only.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 6 2011, 12:30 PM)
Saving RM144K in 5 yrs is not alot actually...
Buy a car in KL already lost RM60K, downpayment for a property will add-in another RM50K, buy some shares another RM30K.. that is for 5 yrs of savings.
Now I target to save RM120K per year or RM600K in 5 years.
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woo... $1.5k/month can save RM120K/year.... can teach me? tongue.gif

this is even better than the title "how to save 100k in 3 years to buy a HDB".



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woo... $1.5k/month can save RM120K/year.... can teach me? tongue.gif
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Investments and shares + try to make some side income after work + work smart, then u can achieve that!

It's time to enter the market again before year end.. eyeing UOB and Genting counters rite now.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 6 2011, 12:35 PM)
ok.. since people are posting transport so fast.. i also post mine.

I will be driving back from AMK to KL on the 20th Jan 2011 around 7-8pm.
come back from KL- JB on the 24th Jan. anyone interested?

Editted : I am driving a Myvi only. so i prefer 3 passenger max.
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So fast come back ? thought gonna on leave for the week ?

Probably can tailgate abit ? drool.gif
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Investments and shares + try to make some side income after work + work smart, then u can achieve that!

It's time to enter the market again before year end.. eyeing UOB and Genting counters rite now.
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I know, just pulling a Myanmar worker's leg. With just S$1.5k, I think other workers only "invest" in toto.

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 6 2011, 02:35 PM)
Investments and shares + try to make some side income after work + work smart, then u can achieve that!

It's time to enter the market again before year end.. eyeing UOB and Genting counters rite now.
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Eyeing on new gem coming to MY market soon..
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am wondering why u want to ask forummer how much to save if earn sgd4k/month. its depend to you lifestyle living in this sin city, depend on yourself to calculate. what if we tell u, u can save sgd2500/ month? can u make it? then if u cant make it, are you going to ask us again on how to how to how to? come on man, use ur brain to calculate. i know is not wrong to ask around for opinion, but at the end, is up to yourself on how much saving u r keen to save. cheers!!
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I know la it's depend on ourself..but jus wan to know the roughy spending only...
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Hi guys, I am new here..

Yesterday I received an offer for Finance Manager for $5K + fixed transport allowance of $200 in a listed company.

I have 4.5 yrs exp. Izit underpay? Should I ask for more or should I reject it?

If I accept it, I need to start work on 15 Dec 2011.
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QUOTE(cavwve @ Dec 6 2011, 03:50 PM)
Hi guys, I am new here..

Yesterday I received an offer for Finance Manager for $5K + fixed transport allowance of $200 in a listed company.

I have 4.5 yrs exp. Izit underpay? Should I ask for more or should I reject it?

If I accept it, I need to start work on 15 Dec 2011.
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Must tell your current job and salary to compare. Else it sure sound good for any 1.5k/m Myanmar worker.

Manager for 5k only? No other major benefit?
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QUOTE(wseng @ Dec 6 2011, 10:12 AM)
Just to add on... we did a calculation last time..
if really were to save on money i think overall expenses of around SGD1.5k (include everything from room to makan)
is quite feasible..

Room : SGD 500-700
Makan : SGD 5 per meal (5 x 3 x 30)
Mobile phone : SGD 30
Transport : SGD 5 per day (5 x 30)
Misc : SGD 200

Adds up : 500+450+150+200 = SGD 1300

hence.. probably can get a 2.5k a month ..
then savings of 1k per month ..
12k per year, and within 5 years.. can get 60k...
That's RM 144k....

That's a very conservative figure...

I would see that as quite a handsome sum as maybe many in the twenties working in MY would not achieve this easily...
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You forget to include Geylang expenses, KTV expenses and clubbing expenses whistling.gif
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Dec 6 2011, 04:06 PM)
Must tell your current job and salary to compare. Else it sure sound good for any 1.5k/m Myanmar worker. 

Manager for 5k only?  No other major benefit?
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Yup.. I think is underpay also... My fren accountant with 3 yrs exp already getting $3.2K edy in SG.
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QUOTE(cavwve @ Dec 6 2011, 05:42 PM)
Yup.. I think is underpay also... My fren accountant with 3 yrs exp already getting $3.2K edy in SG.
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Then you're overpaid already since you've only 4.5 yrs exp.
You get $2k more just for extra 1.5 yrs exp.
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QUOTE(cavwve @ Dec 6 2011, 04:42 PM)
Yup.. I think is underpay also... My fren accountant with 3 yrs exp already getting $3.2K edy in SG.
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the key is relevant experience, not just the number of years since your 1st jobs.

I think the company discounted your actual experience thus the lower rate.
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Folks, we gonna have a year end dinner feast/gathering brows.gif this coming 26th 16th Dec 2011 (Friday)

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Date : 16th Dec 2011 (FRIDAY)

Time : 8.00pm 7.00pm sharp

Location : HARD ROCK CAFE ORCHARD (to be confirmed !)


SOS <-- for latest updates

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hi guise, whats the agenda on gaythering? long time didnt catchup with u guise

busy with work =_=
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 6 2011, 07:54 AM)
food+groceries 1.3k
transport 200
other utilities & misc expenses 100
room ... 300 to 800

your mileage may vary.
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shocking.gif if only i have the guts to spend so much on food & groceries. mine is only 1/4 of that lol

imho, it's how much you can save rather than how much you can earn.
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Dec 6 2011, 07:22 PM)
hi guise, whats the agenda on gaythering? long time didnt catchup with u guise

busy with work =_=
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 6 2011, 06:40 PM)
Folks, we gonna have a year end dinner feast/gathering  brows.gif  this coming 26th Dec 2011 (Friday)

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Date      : 16th Dec 2011 (FRIDAY)

Time      : 8.00pm

Location : HARD ROCK CAFE ORCHARD RD (to be confirm)


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Imo SGD1.2K will cover all basic needs here. Any expenses more than that is luxury - which can be converted into additional savings if one tries hard enough.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 6 2011, 04:40 AM)
Folks, we gonna have a year end dinner feast/gathering  brows.gif  this coming 26th Dec 2011 (Friday)

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Date      : 16th Dec 2011 (FRIDAY)

Time      : 8.00pm

Location : HARD ROCK CAFE ORCHARD (to be confirm)


SOS <-- for latest updates
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One seat for me, already confirm with Fer Gf at FB just now... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


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Student welcome? smile.gif
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Of course... Student, worker, director or watever position also can join us...


Even WP holder also can... tongue.gif tongue.gif




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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 6 2011, 06:40 PM)
Folks, we gonna have a year end dinner feast/gathering  brows.gif  this coming 26th Dec 2011 (Friday)
Date      : 16th Dec 2011 (FRIDAY)[/size][/color]

26 or 16? If 16 count me in, if 26 I got wedding to attend sad.gif

QUOTE(toughnut @ Dec 6 2011, 07:31 PM)
shocking.gif  if only i have the guts to spend so much on food & groceries. mine is only 1/4 of that lol
imho, it's how much you can save rather than how much you can earn.

When your earning increases, your expenses also naturally increase one mah. I'm not a sweet young thing fresh grad anymore, the season of needing to constantly watch (the price of) what I eat already passed tongue.gif
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26 or 16? If 16 count me in, if 26 I got wedding to attend sad.gif
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One seat for me, already confirm with Fer Gf at FB just now...  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

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I miss another gathering again. Sigh
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:33 PM

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any girls going? i am afraid if all guys... a little unsafe u know even in sg
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 10:33 PM)
any girls going? i am afraid if all guys... a little unsafe u know even in sg
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1st of all, ask yourself. r u pretty? lol tongue.gif
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yes.. the medical check is needed unless u are applying a P2 or P1 pass.
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Yes... Please check your first page of IPA for the medical examination.
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(shanelai @ Dec 6 2011, 11:09 PM)
1st of all, ask yourself. r u pretty? lol tongue.gif
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i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joining SIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?
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all Malaysian in SG is most welcome !  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
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One seat for me, already confirm with Fer Gf at FB just now...  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on December 6, 2011, 9:04 pm
Of course... Student, worker, director or watever position also can join us...
Even WP holder also can...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Great! Count me in then smile.gif 1 male student.


Added on December 7, 2011, 12:16 amOh yea.. is there any dress code?

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post Dec 7 2011, 12:46 AM

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Eh I'm coming dwn sg on 16 mayb can join u guys...hehe...but I'm not working in sg can I join?anyhow I work under sg company..
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hello there, I am moving to sg soon and looking for a room. Is it possible to get a room with bath room for less than 800? sweat.gif

Where do you guys usually search for your rooms apart from the links on the front page?
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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM)
i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joining SIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?
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Better watch out. Some 'jantan' pretends to be mabuk to take advantage of girls drool.gif . Better to avoid than feeling regret later. shakehead.gif
Even if not mabuk they could spike your drink....then if you wake up, it's too late cry.gif .

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any girls going? i am afraid if all guys... a little unsafe u know even in sg
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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM)
i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joining SIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?
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stewardess job can be quite interesting as u are traveling around. But if u are attached or married, i think it might affected it.


Added on December 7, 2011, 7:55 am
QUOTE(-XIII- @ Dec 7 2011, 01:21 AM)
hello there, I am moving to sg soon and looking for a room. Is it possible to get a room with bath room for less than 800?  sweat.gif

Where do you guys usually search for your rooms apart from the links on the front page?
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A room with a bath room = master bed room. I think u can get it at 800, but do mind that the place might be at some ulu places or somewhere far away from MRT.

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QUOTE(Def @ Dec 7 2011, 06:39 AM)
Better watch out. Some 'jantan' pretends to be mabuk to take advantage of girls drool.gif . Better to avoid than feeling regret later. shakehead.gif
Even if not mabuk they could spike your drink....then if you wake up, it's too late cry.gif .
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that's why i am afraid cry.gif i prefer if can to share cab with another girl.. at least i feel safer for 1st time outing wub.gif
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No worry, they are all good guys : )
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u met them b4? unsure.gif
QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Dec 7 2011, 07:53 AM)
stewardess job can be quite interesting as u are traveling around. But if u are attached or married, i think it might affected it.

Added on December 7, 2011, 7:55 am
A room with a bath room = master bed room. I think u can get it at 800, but do mind that the place might be at some ulu places or somewhere far away from MRT.
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i see, i am only 22y.o. and i dont think i will get married anytime soon..

dont have to be too ulu... 800 if you rent from the owner... but if u share it with friends... then the master room will be very exp
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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM)
i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joiningSIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?

To be frank, if you feel you're not steady enough to handle a bunch of forumers at Hard Rock in Singapore (lots of busybodies who are not shy to call a responsive police dept),.. you certainly won't be able to handle all those buayas esp. pilots, crew supervisors and stewards etc. If you're good looking and not confident & world-wise, very high possibility you'll... regret your first layover.
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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM)
i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joining SIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?
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Flight Stewardess a lot of perks especially when it comes to spouse. If you are lucky enough to serve the first class passengers, then you got chansi to meet rich man. If you are very lucky, you can become tai-tai and no need work anymore like my auntie.
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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM)
i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joining SIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?
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i can't believe ppl actually fell for your troll on a dupe doh.gif . drop the dupe bro.


Added on December 7, 2011, 9:56 am
QUOTE(senyii @ Dec 7 2011, 12:46 AM)
Eh I'm coming dwn sg on 16 mayb can join u guys...hehe...but I'm not working in sg can I join?anyhow I work under sg company..
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can, PM us your details. oh, bring some goodies from KL for us biggrin.gif

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Added on December 7, 2011, 9:58 am
QUOTE(tayhaithian @ Dec 7 2011, 07:16 AM)
No worry, they are all good decent guys : )
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Added on December 7, 2011, 10:00 am
QUOTE(ky_khor @ Dec 6 2011, 09:55 PM)
I don't know anyone here in person. Can I join the Christmas gathering?

*Is there a Singapore Malaysian group or sort in FB/LinkedIn you guys're joining?
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yup. PM us your details.

No, most of us are not into FB/LinkedIn group. We are all just low krass workers.

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 7 2011, 09:55 AM)
i can't believe ppl actually fell for your troll on a dupe doh.gif  .  drop the dupe bro.

I'd always assumed all the other old-timers were just playing along hmm.gif

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 7 2011, 09:55 AM)
No, most of us are not into FB/LinkedIn group. We are all just low krass workers.

Nolah FB is for low krass Foreign Tr*** like me. Link in sig tongue.gif

BTW count me + fiancee in for the gathering. Unfortunately she insist on coming along even though I tell her all batang only coming sad.gif
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Dec 7 2011, 12:01 AM)
Great! Count me in then smile.gif 1 male student.


Added on December 7, 2011, 12:16 amOh yea.. is there any dress code?
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PM us your details.

No slippers. better no shorts also.


Added on December 7, 2011, 10:10 am
QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 7 2011, 10:08 AM)
I'd always assumed all the other old-timers were just playing along hmm.gif
Nolah FB is for low krass Foreign Tr*** like me. Link in sig tongue.gif

BTW count me + fiancee in for the gathering. Unfortunately she insist on coming along even though I tell her all batang only coming sad.gif
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you are so wrong ! we have 2 to 4 gals on the list ady rclxms.gif .

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post Dec 7 2011, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 7 2011, 10:09 AM)
PM us your details.

No slippers. better no shorts also.


Added on December 7, 2011, 10:10 am

you are so wrong ! we have 2 to 4 gals on the list ady  rclxms.gif  .
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Hey Mackiddo, i think u should make a list of who is going so we would roughly know how many ppl is there.
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post Dec 7 2011, 10:34 AM

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count me in... i wanna join.
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post Dec 7 2011, 10:47 AM

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ok... here is a quick list that i have. If i miss out anyone, please pm me. or if i added in anyone that doesn't want to go, pm me as well.

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Kockroach.... this is the biggest 1 that we had so far.... feel kesian for you coz u can't join.. hehe

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 7 2011, 10:09 AM)
PM us your details.

No slippers. better no shorts also.

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That's exactly what I wore there last time we hangout at HRC, remember? Lol
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 6 2011, 08:47 PM)
ok... here is a quick list that i have. If i miss out anyone, please pm me. or if i added in anyone that doesn't want to go, pm me as well.

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Kockroach.... this is the biggest 1 that we had so far.... feel kesian for you coz u can't join.. hehe
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3rd time gaythering after JB and downtown east... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 7 2011, 10:47 AM)
ok... here is a quick list that i have. If i miss out anyone, please pm me. or if i added in anyone that doesn't want to go, pm me as well.

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Kockroach.... this is the biggest 1 that we had so far.... feel kesian for you coz u can't join.. hehe
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So, how many girls here are there in your list? I might be joinning late.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 7 2011, 10:09 AM)
PM us your details.

No slippers. better no shorts also.


Added on December 7, 2011, 10:10 am

you are so wrong ! we have 2 to 4 gals on the list ady  rclxms.gif  .
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Noted! Sent you my details smile.gif

Yay... I can get to meet all the malaysian elites in SG!
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Dec 7 2011, 11:42 AM)
Noted! Sent you my details  smile.gif

Yay... I can get to meet all the malaysian elites in SG!
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u will be dissapointed because there are a few rubbish in the group (WP holder). I am 1 of them.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 7 2011, 10:09 AM)
you are so wrong ! we have 2 to 4 gals on the list ady  rclxms.gif

Not counting the +1's I only see one female-ish name on the list so far, lol.

Anyways shouldnt' we move the gaythering discussion to its' own thread? nanti darkages come in complain that we using this as chat thread again.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 7 2011, 11:44 AM)
Not counting the +1's I only see one female-ish name on the list so far, lol.

Anyways shouldnt' we move the gaythering discussion to its' own thread? nanti darkages come in complain that we using this as chat thread again.
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actually i created a gathering thread previously, but not really active as most people like to post it here. and my thread is not updated on the 1st page.

lets continue the discussion here
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Dec 7 2011, 11:00 AM)
That's exactly what I wore there last time we hangout at HRC, remember? Lol
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coz u smart. stay with me, AA member. They treat their members very nice smile.gif
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who is the gal joining??
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who is the gal joining??
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there will be few gals going. which one you referring to? NokiaConvert a.k.a Tee ?
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post Dec 7 2011, 08:36 PM

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Im one of the girl but I still undecided to go for the HRC or company's Xmas dinner/gaythering
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there will be few gals going. which one you referring to? NokiaConvert a.k.a Tee ?
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I'm not sure how many gala tats y I ask lor....
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post Dec 7 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:32 PM)
i dont know... i guess sometimes guys when they are drunk they can be rough

i had worked 4 years as promoter already... a little tired, thinking of changing job... currently promoting loreal cosmetic, thought of joining SIA to be a stewardess.. good idea?
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based on ur job, i can tell that you're not bad looking girl... I'm interesting to join now...lol.. Be stewardess is a good way to earn fast money i feel provided if u have chances to fly long haul.. But bear in mind it will be very tiring to be stewardess as the working hour is killing.. unless white colar job. Think yourself whether u can make it.
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QUOTE(senyii @ Dec 7 2011, 10:01 PM)
I'm not sure how many gala tats y I ask lor....
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would it put you at ease knowing that the organizer is a gal ? tongue.gif . We have around 4 or 5 gals.


Added on December 7, 2011, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(toughnut @ Dec 7 2011, 08:36 PM)
Im one of the girl but I still undecided to go for the HRC or company's Xmas dinner/gaythering
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Elizabeth Koh, make sure you join us. This feast is so grand that it gonna dwarf the Feast of Kubera rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(shanelai @ Dec 7 2011, 10:33 PM)
based on ur job, i can tell that you're not bad looking girl... I'm interesting to join now...lol.. Be stewardess is a good way to earn fast money i feel provided if u have chances to fly long haul.. But bear in mind it will be very tiring to be stewardess as the working hour is killing.. unless white colar job. Think yourself whether u can make it.

Rabbit is the tarp dupe of another of our guy posters lar doh.gif

The dupe-ness is so obvious how come you all who spend lots of time in this thread can still kena tarp? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shanelai @ Dec 7 2011, 09:33 PM)
based on ur job, i can tell that you're not bad looking girl... I'm interesting to join now...lol.. Be stewardess is a good way to earn fast money i feel provided if u have chances to fly long haul.. But bear in mind it will be very tiring to be stewardess as the working hour is killing.. unless white colar job. Think yourself whether u can make it.
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I thought you just for married?


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 7 2011, 11:09 PM)
Rabbit is the tarp dupe of another of our guy posters lar doh.gif

The dupe-ness is so obvious how come you all who spend lots of time in this thread can still kena tarp? hmm.gif
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What is tarp and what is dupe? Not understand


Added on December 8, 2011, 1:32 pm
QUOTE(kockroach @ Dec 8 2011, 08:50 AM)
I thought you just for married?
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认识女孩没有罪!!:P

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 7 2011, 11:55 AM)
actually i created a gathering thread previously, but not really active as most people like to post it here. and my thread is not updated on the 1st page.

lets continue the discussion here
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Please discuss matters related to gaythering in the thread which was diligently created by our friend here.
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Please discuss matters related to gaythering in the thread which was diligently created by our friend here.
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so, are you joining us on the 16th Dec gathering ? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(darkages @ Dec 8 2011, 02:08 PM)
Please discuss matters related to gaythering in the thread which was diligently created by our friend here.

For those of you lazy to make bookmarks & etc, the front page 1st post also updated with the link liao.
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Dear all,

I plan to work in SG maybe next year for at least 2 or 3 years. Can i rent a house or room in JB and drive my local car to sg to work and return to JB every day? Do i need to pay extra fee for driving a local car to sg to work?

Thank you.
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QUOTE(^4ever_Fan+a5y^ @ Dec 8 2011, 05:39 PM)
Dear all,

I plan to work in SG maybe next year for at least 2 or 3 years. Can i rent a house or room in JB and drive my local car to sg to work and return to JB every day? Do i need to pay extra fee for driving a local car to sg to work?

Thank you.
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depends on which way u use to enter Singapore. let me just break it down for u.

This is the cost if u drive a car.

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This is the cost if you ride a bike.

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Hope it helps.


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IRAS take action now... .... extra 3~10% Tax for buying residential properties in SG.

http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page.aspx?id=12850


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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 8 2011, 06:11 PM)
depends on which way u use to enter Singapore. let me just break it down for u.

This is the cost if u drive a car.

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This is the cost if you ride a bike.

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Hope it helps.
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Dec 8 2011, 06:17 PM)
IRAS take action now...  .... extra 3~10% Tax for buying residential properties in SG.

http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page.aspx?id=12850
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only applicable to those buying private prop.
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QUOTE(shanelai @ Dec 8 2011, 08:26 PM)
only applicable to those buying private prop.
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It does include hdb as long as it has resident component. Well, I hope I am wrong.
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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Dec 8 2011, 10:21 PM)
Tell me more all the luxury goods and property prices in Singapore. Thanks in advance.
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qualitative, quantitative or both?
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Tell me more all the luxury goods and property prices in Singapore. Thanks in advance.
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if you need such information for your thesis, shouldn't the ura and sing dept of stats be your primary sources of credible information?

Even if you need to understand consumer sentiments, why would you listen to a few alis muthus and ah sengs on the net when there are better sources of information?

Am i missing something?





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Hey folks, just curious.. I wanna convert my driving license, do i need to take practical test?
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Hey folks, just curious.. I wanna convert my driving license, do i need to take practical test?
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I heard no need. just need to take a paper test. but procedure wise is very troublesome.
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QUOTE(shanelai @ Dec 8 2011, 10:58 PM)
I heard no need. just need to take a paper test. but procedure wise is very troublesome.
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Thank you for your info! just asked Mackiddo about this, he said need to get letter from JPJ some more.. So troublesome doh.gif
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QUOTE(yinyum @ Dec 8 2011, 11:38 PM)
Thank you for your info! just asked Mackiddo about this, he said need to get letter from JPJ some more.. So troublesome  doh.gif
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it's not that bad considering you need not take any practical test. Only the Basic Theory Test (BTT). Booking for date of the test a bit tricky, the nearest date could be 2 months away.
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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Dec 8 2011, 10:21 PM)
Tell me more all the luxury goods and property prices in Singapore. Thanks in advance.
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Nothing better to do during your school holiday?

Go read some useful article to get your answer instead of trolling here for your thesis, or pmr project whatever. Remember to include the LYN post number in your thesis for the data you taken from us ok. thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(Murusundram @ Dec 8 2011, 10:21 PM)
Tell me more all the luxury goods and property prices in Singapore. Thanks in advance.
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I am reporting this dopey for trolling.
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QUOTE(bellion @ Dec 9 2011, 12:19 AM)
I am reporting this dopey for trolling.

For trolling and for trying to get forumers to do his school homework.
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QUOTE(bellion @ Dec 9 2011, 12:19 AM)
I am reporting this dopey for trolling.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Dec 9 2011, 08:46 AM)
For trolling and for trying to get forumers to do his school homework.
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Pls lah, I think there is nothing wrong to ask for luxury goods in SG if he is a higher earner.

Better than those forummers here asking where can "see boobs" or where to date a SG girl type of questions.
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QUOTE(WendyC88 @ Dec 8 2011, 05:49 PM)
Long time didn't go Singapore, I wish I could....see it again
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You might even want to add in another RM6.20 into that or even higher when the EDL is in operation. They seems to be toll-ing those going into SG to finance the construction.

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/...208-315095.html
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 9 2011, 09:06 AM)
Pls lah, I think there is nothing wrong to ask for luxury goods in SG if he is a higher earner.

Better than those forummers here asking where can "see boobs" or where to date a SG girl type of questions.
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check out his previous post which is not that much.
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Dec 8 2011, 08:46 PM)
It does include hdb as long as it has resident component.  Well, I hope I am wrong.

Quote from your sos
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The purchase of HDB properties will not be affected by this measure. Only Singaporeans and Permanent Residents are eligible to be HDB flat lessees (i.e. own a flat). Existing residential property owners who buy an HDB flat or a new unit under the Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) or the Executive Condominium (EC) Housing Scheme will not be subject to the ABSD, since the existing flat/property will have to be disposed of as part of the conditions for the purchase of the HDB/DBSS flat or EC unit.


QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 9 2011, 09:06 AM)
Pls lah, I think there is nothing wrong to ask for luxury goods in SG if he is a higher earner.

Better than those forummers here asking where can "see boobs" or where to date a SG girl type of questions.

Mang, get off your high horse. There's a reason why the guys are reacting so hostile to that muru-whatever, he's been off and on trolling the thread for a couple of weeks already.
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Dec 9 2011, 09:42 AM)
check out his previous post which is not that much.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 9 2011, 10:10 AM)
Quote from your sos
Mang, get off your high horse. There's a reason why the guys are reacting so hostile to that muru-whatever, he's been off and on trolling the thread for a couple of weeks already.
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oh OK boss..., bcos I din lurk much nowadays in this SG thread edy.. so I din realise.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 9 2011, 09:06 AM)
Pls lah, I think there is nothing wrong to ask for luxury goods in SG if he is a higher earner.

Better than those forummers here asking where can "see boobs" or where to date a SG girl type of questions.
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If you read his previous posts in this thread, you would come to the same conclusion as us regarding his intention which is to troll and discredit all things Singaporean.
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QUOTE(bellion @ Dec 9 2011, 10:20 AM)
If you read his previous posts in this thread, you would come to the same conclusion as us regarding his intention which is to troll and discredit all things Singaporean.
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Maybe he BN Trooper?

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Maybe he BN Trooper?
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Hahah.. BN trooper or not, I think BN govt found a way to suck $$ from those travelling between M'sia and SG daily. EDL will be tolled at the CIQ checkpoint. Though we do not use EDL, still kena subsidize it for everyone to use! So I think for those who decides to travel daily via car, maybe can add an additional cost to your travelling allowance.
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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Dec 9 2011, 10:56 AM)
Hahah.. BN trooper or not, I think BN govt found a way to suck $$ from those travelling between M'sia and SG daily.  EDL will be tolled at the CIQ checkpoint.  Though we do not use EDL, still kena subsidize it for everyone to use!  So I think for those who decides to travel daily via car, maybe can add an additional cost to your travelling allowance.
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i fully support the gov on this. This really successfully achieve the mission to get $$ from the rich to subsidize the poor.
If you are rich enough to pay $20 daily for the car VEP, the RM6.20 means nothing to you. the $20 it self its already RM49.
If you say u are poor, u can opt to ride a motorcycle or take a bus.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 9 2011, 11:12 AM)
i fully support the gov on this. This really successfully achieve the mission to get $$ from the rich to subsidize the poor.
If you are rich enough to pay $20 daily for the car VEP, the RM6.20 means nothing to you. the $20 it self its already RM49.
If you say u are poor, u can opt to ride a motorcycle or take a bus.
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Haha...you have got your point. The problem is that we are paying for something we do not use.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 9 2011, 11:12 AM)
i fully support the gov on this. This really successfully achieve the mission to get $$ from the rich to subsidize the poor.
If you are rich enough to pay $20 daily for the car VEP, the RM6.20 means nothing to you. the $20 it self its already RM49.
If you say u are poor, u can opt to ride a motorcycle or take a bus.
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I also fully support this and I hope Sg side will stand by their words which is, "we will follow the rates of what our counterparts in Msia is charging".
Maybe time to increase VEP also. haha. Such a long time never revise already tongue.gif

BTW, quite a number of those who stay in JB drive Sg car, so all along there is no S$20.

JB town will be dead sooner than you think once they imposed this.

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 9 2011, 11:27 AM)
Maybe time to increase VEP also. haha. Such a long time never revise already  tongue.gif

Peg VEP to COE price? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 9 2011, 11:30 AM)
Peg VEP to COE price? tongue.gif
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actually they should, because that's the reflection of actual cost of owning a vehicle in Sg.
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Dec 8 2011, 08:46 PM)
It does include hdb as long as it has resident component.  Well, I hope I am wrong.
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The HDB is Counted.

"All residential properties are included in the count of properties owned by a person,
whether he owns the property wholly or partially or jointly with others. These
properties include:
(a) All residential buildings including HDB flats, serviced apartments, mixed use
building with residential component such as shophouse, shopflat, and shop with
dwelling unit, etc
(b) All the above buildings which are to be built or being built.
(c ) Vacant land and development sites for residential use.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 9 2011, 10:10 AM)
Quote from your sos
Mang, get off your high horse. There's a reason why the guys are reacting so hostile to that muru-whatever, he's been off and on trolling the thread for a couple of weeks already.
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eTax
Since HDB had seperate rules that one name can only register for one HDB, so most of us will only have one HDB.

by right you have to pay but you can apply remission through HDB.

" Any purchase of new HDB flats (such as under BTO or DBSS), resale HDB flats,
non-privatised HUDC flats and new EC flats, that are subject to HDB regulations on
ownership, will not be subject to ABSD.
In the event that the buyers own private residential properties and wish to
downgrade to a HDB flat, HDB will allow a concessionary period for them to sell
their private residential properties.
Remission for such cases can be applied through HDB. "

Other than buying, it coverd these special cases:

"(a) Via Gift, Inheritance, Release, Settlement;
(b) Via Declaration of Trust where the beneficial interest in the property passes to
the beneficiary;
(c ) Via Letter of Authority
(d) Via Exchange

Example 1
If a property is bought by a SC who holds the property in trust for a beneficiary who
is a foreigner, the ABSD rate of 10% applies based on the profile of the beneficiary.
"


so what if something happen to a couple with young kids and the HDB have to temp register under another HDB owner?



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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 9 2011, 11:27 AM)
I also fully support this and I hope Sg side will stand by their words which is, "we will follow the rates of what our counterparts in Msia is charging".
Maybe time to increase VEP also. haha. Such a long time never revise already  tongue.gif

BTW, quite a number of those who stay in JB drive Sg car, so all along there is no S$20.

JB town will be dead sooner than you think once they imposed this.
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i agree with this as well. just follow Malaysia's rate. it won't affect me also since bike still free smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 9 2011, 11:27 AM)
I also fully support this and I hope Sg side will stand by their words which is, "we will follow the rates of what our counterparts in Msia is charging".
Maybe time to increase VEP also. haha. Such a long time never revise already  tongue.gif

BTW, quite a number of those who stay in JB drive Sg car, so all along there is no S$20.

JB town will be dead sooner than you think once they imposed this.
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Well, I think there will be more folks seeking to rent room/HDB in SG. So it would be great for those who are renting out their rooms. Maybe the good thing is that it will reduce the traffic going through the causeway.
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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Dec 9 2011, 11:52 AM)
Well, I think there will be more folks seeking to rent room/HDB in SG.  So it would be great for those who are renting out their rooms.  Maybe the good thing is that it will reduce the traffic going through the causeway.
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also see the seafood restaurant there dare to lcly and anyhow charge or not since there will be massive drop in customers from Sg.


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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 9 2011, 11:49 AM)
i agree with this as well. just follow Malaysia's rate. it won't affect me also since bike still free smile.gif
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any forum-ers here stay in JB and drive to work in Sg?

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Dec 9 2011, 10:56 AM)
Hahah.. BN trooper or not, I think BN govt found a way to suck $$ from those travelling between M'sia and SG daily.  EDL will be tolled at the CIQ checkpoint.  Though we do not use EDL, still kena subsidize it for everyone to use!  So I think for those who decides to travel daily via car, maybe can add an additional cost to your travelling allowance.
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"On the justification in imposing a toll even on non-users of the highway, Mohamed Razeek said the highway would benefit the majority of the locals who travel within the city."

Malaysia Boleh! Somali pirates also "tax" the passing ship for the benefit of locals right?

Hope RM6.20 can buy smooth trafiic and save some travelling time.

BUTTTT HOORRRRRRR!!!

the money goes to MRCB.

"The Malaysian Resources Corporation Berhad (MRCB) is a property development and investment company."

and the CEO said "would benefit the majority of the locals who travel within the city". The reporter should report who are the stake holder of the company who will sapu all the money. Another SUCKER project by BN.

if you say the money is for maintaining the road then what is the point of keeping JKR and non user being force to pay to maintain a road that they did not use.

The Pengurusan Danaharta Nasional Berhad, EPF is in it. So this is a tax payer money funded project but profit goes to private investement company. another satu malaysia thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 9 2011, 11:59 AM)
also see the seafood restaurant there dare to lcly and anyhow charge or not since there will be massive drop in customers from Sg.


Added on December 9, 2011, 12:01 pm
any forum-ers here stay in JB and drive to work in Sg?
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Haha.. I guess after the introduction of the toll, there will be changes to JB significantly. Also, there are a lot of SG school going kids living in JB will be effected.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 9 2011, 11:49 AM)
i agree with this as well. just follow Malaysia's rate. it won't affect me also since bike still free smile.gif
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Dont talk so loud, once they implemented and they didnt collect enough $$$ and they see the big potential from the big group of bike riders commuting daily in and out, wont you worry this bunch of blood suckers will not collect from bikers later on.....the best is to stop them from doing so, so it will not spread later.... biggrin.gif
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Hi guys, exchange rates going down...
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"On the justification in imposing a toll even on non-users of the highway, Mohamed Razeek said the highway would benefit the majority of the locals who travel within the city."

Malaysia Boleh!  Somali pirates also "tax" the passing ship for the benefit of locals right?

Hope RM6.20 can buy smooth trafiic and save some travelling time.

BUTTTT  HOORRRRRRR!!!

the money goes to MRCB.

"The Malaysian Resources Corporation Berhad (MRCB) is a property development and investment company." 

and the CEO said "would benefit the majority of the locals who travel within the city". The reporter should report who are the stake holder of the company who will sapu all the money. Another SUCKER project by BN.

if you say the money is for maintaining the road then what is the point of keeping JKR and non user being force to pay to maintain a road that they did not use.

The Pengurusan Danaharta Nasional Berhad, EPF is in it. So this is a tax payer money funded project but profit goes to private investement company. another satu malaysia thumbup.gif
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the money goes to MRCB.
This is the part where I think paying that toll do not lead to a greater good for the society. It's for someone to finance their newest Merz or purchasing the highest class condo in Bangsar or even that private jet trip to some exotic locations for their families and friends annual travel. I do not mind paying the SGD20 for the toll knowing the efficiency of Singapore's road and it's in a way greater good for the society.


Added on December 9, 2011, 1:31 pm
QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 9 2011, 11:59 AM)
also see the seafood restaurant there dare to lcly and anyhow charge or not since there will be massive drop in customers from Sg.


Added on December 9, 2011, 12:01 pm
any forum-ers here stay in JB and drive to work in Sg?
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I do sometimes. Varies between car, bus, cab depending on the demand of my job. So just curious, other than me and Lester, anyone else living in JB here?

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http://business.asiaone.com/Business/Offic...206-314672.html

How to be in the top 10% thumbup.gif

The top 10 per cent of high fliers, the bottom 10 per cent of 'limited contributors', and the remaining 80 per cent of solid citizens.

If you think you belong to the top 10 per cent - well, you don't.

You will know when you are there - you don't have to think.

How?

The quantum of your bonuses, consistently for the past three years could be one factor, and oh, yes, the frequency of your engagement with the decision makers, and how often your views are sought.

If you are in the bottom 10 per cent, maybe you should be asking yourself, 'Why am I here? And what do I want to do about it?'

The signs: similar to the above but on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Decision makers typically decide who they promote based on three key factors.

Past performance, future potential and the ability to get along well with others. nod.gif

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