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post Aug 28 2011, 10:51 AM, updated 14y ago

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LCD Monitor Thread v11.00 (FYI: LCD MONITOR ≠LCD TV)


Recommended LCD Monitor Review Links:

TestFreaks LCD Monitor Review
TFT Central UK
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LCD Panel Guides:

TFT Central UK
Contemporary LCD Monitor Parameters and Characteristics




Recommended LCD Testing Tools:

Monitor Testâ„¢
Dead Pixel Tester
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LCD Monitor Test Images
Nokia Monitor Test




Manufacture's Support Forum:

Dell Community Forum - LCD Monitor



Online Purchase of LCD:

Dell Malaysia *No credit card and need help purchasing from DELL? You can PM me. I can help.
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Sizes Comparison:


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** Special thanks and credit to lex

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post Aug 28 2011, 10:52 AM

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Use this image to test your LCD's color and to detect gradient banding. smile.gif
**Full credit and special thanks to our moderator lex rclxms.gif

Link to v10.00 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1645151
Link to v9.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1421464
Link to v8.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1220049
Link to v7.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1068719
Link to v6.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/950068
Link to v5.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/832727
Link to v4.00 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/724890
Link to v3.10 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/374456

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New Samsung 40" LCD TV just arriving today. Just want to ask if anyone ever experienced connecting it to pc & I plan to use my unused computer parts to make HTPC.Intel C2D6300 @1.86 Ghz should be fine right?
Maybe also other tips using LCD TV with HTPC?
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post Aug 28 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(newuserex @ Aug 28 2011, 12:53 PM)
New Samsung 40" LCD TV just arriving today. Just want to ask if anyone ever experienced connecting it to pc & I plan to use my unused computer parts to make HTPC.Intel C2D6300 @1.86 Ghz should be fine right?
Maybe also other tips using LCD TV with HTPC?
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I have similar spec with yours

but with 4GB ram, and a low profile grapghic card (Just a low end 1 with HDMI connection)
BTW I use VGA to connect instead, digital connection did not work out for me (not sure why)
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post Aug 28 2011, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(GeneSkill @ Aug 28 2011, 02:17 PM)
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Did you have to calibrate the colours or were they just fine out of the box?
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They were good for me right out of the box

in my opinion these dells are perfect for gaming + photo editing smile.gif

the xtra resolution really helps
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post Aug 28 2011, 05:11 PM

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Bro can share the wallpaper? 1920x1200
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i use this wallpaper smile.gif
http://www.goodfon.com/image/153854-4000x2000.jpg

from goodfon.com < alot of other high res wallpapers
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post Aug 28 2011, 05:42 PM

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That's very nice. Thanks GeneSkill. happy.gif
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post Aug 28 2011, 11:51 PM

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post Aug 29 2011, 08:35 AM

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Hehe another member for the eyefinity group....

GeneSkill, i would recommend to put the side monitor slight turn inwards to get the gaps (blakc bar) between monitor minimized.


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Yea putting the side monitors turned inwards would cover part of those ugly bezels
Got some repositioning to do =P
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post Aug 29 2011, 06:53 PM

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only LCD? not LED monitors?
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cuz i think no true LED monitors launch yet??
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QUOTE(KLlee @ Aug 29 2011, 06:53 PM)
only LCD? not LED monitors?
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post Aug 29 2011, 07:25 PM

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just to share on Dell Monitor, if you have time, try to lurk around the online chat at Dell.com.my during the morning, write them what you want, they will send you a quotation via e-mail, which I got is cheaper than the online buying.

The Sales Consultant will also leave a phone contact as well inside the e-mail. Thanks.
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FYI guys, Dell U2711 is now priced at RM1,999.
Immediately purchased one. tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Aug 29 2011, 07:25 PM)
just to share on Dell Monitor, if you have time, try to lurk around the online chat at Dell.com.my during the morning, write them what you want, they will send you a quotation via e-mail, which I got is cheaper than the online buying.

The Sales Consultant will also leave a phone contact as well inside the e-mail. Thanks.
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Tried before not that cheap.. how much u got and wat model?
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QUOTE(marky @ Aug 29 2011, 10:15 PM)
Tried before not that cheap.. how much u got and wat model?
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U2412M, just saying that, it is cheaper a bit than after applying coupon with 5 years warranty, but need to bargain over the phone.
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review of Dell2412M:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm
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QUOTE(mikelee @ Aug 29 2011, 09:47 PM)
FYI guys, Dell U2711 is now priced at RM1,999.
Immediately purchased one.  tongue.gif
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Damn... should have waited for this instead rushing for the U2412M @ RM899. Lesson learnt the hard way, always wait for price drop before purchasing when it is near Hari Raya doh.gif
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Got my U2412M yesterday..... zero bright/dead pixels...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Aug 30 2011, 11:23 AM)
Got my U2412M yesterday..... zero bright/dead pixels...
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Congrats.

I have to dim down the brightness to 40% cos my eyes are not used to its Ultrabright!


Added on August 30, 2011, 2:46 pm
QUOTE(gstoh @ Aug 30 2011, 09:49 AM)
Awesome find. Thanks.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 30 2011, 10:18 AM)
Damn... should have waited for this instead rushing for the U2412M @ RM899. Lesson learnt the hard way, always wait for price drop before purchasing when it is near Hari Raya  doh.gif
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Honestly, I think the U2412M is a better deal than the U2711. It is a lot cheaper to buy more of the monitors if you want to do 3x1 display gaming. Three of them would only cost you RM2,247 (3 x RM749), which is only a little more expensive than the RM1,999 or cheaper than its regular price. Also, the U2412M, according to that TFT Central review is better for gaming than the U2711.

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 30 2011, 02:19 PM)
Congrats.

I have to dim down the brightness to 40% cos my eyes are not used to its Ultrabright!


Added on August 30, 2011, 2:46 pm
Awesome find. Thanks.
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Mine was at 37 to get about 120cd/m2 brightness.. too bright my eyes also pain >_<

QUOTE(everling @ Aug 30 2011, 04:10 PM)
Honestly, I think the U2412M is a better deal than the U2711. It is a lot cheaper to buy more of the monitors if you want to do 3x1 display gaming. Three of them would only cost you RM2,247 (3 x RM749), which is only a little more expensive than the RM1,999 or cheaper than its regular price. Also, the U2412M, according to that TFT Central review is better for gaming than the U2711.
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Don't exactly game much nowadays... more for watching movie, bigger is better since I can sit on my bed , bout 2 meter away from my monitor.. not to mention I like the extra working space when working on photoshop biggrin.gif.

Oh well, 2412 is nice... but next time shall go for bigger ones biggrin.gif.
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HI , may i know how to determine current my monitor are showing Full HD,
is that check on screen resolution ? its show 1280x1080 ..

and when i watch youtube 1080p and 720p , seem like no difference ...


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hey guys,

i cant really make up my mind..

i jz sold off my Dell SP2208WFP and Acer S243HL monitors..

planning to go for an upgrade..was tinking of buying a 3d led monitor..but the choices are quite limited and i duno if it's worth it..can any1 recommend me any?

budget is at around rm1.4k or less..main purpose is to connect it to my laptop and to my xbox/ps3 to play games..
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http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/sna.asp..._monitor&~ck=mn

spotted Dell UltraSharp U2312HM

23" Monitor with LED Dell U2412M

Please Call 1800-88-0301 for Latest Price


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Online Price ...RM 864

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QUOTE(chaos86 @ Aug 31 2011, 02:09 AM)
Online Price ...RM 864
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I'm still waiting discount for U2311H *stock clearance* whistling.gif
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might as well get U2412M if the price stay.
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QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Aug 31 2011, 02:29 AM)
might as well get U2412M if the price stay.
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Yup, cos price difference is RM35 only. And if wait a little, sure have discount and further coupon discount!
Dell doesn't reward early bird. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 31 2011, 08:42 AM)
Yup, cos price difference is RM35 only. And if wait a little, sure have discount and further coupon discount!
Dell doesn't reward early bird. laugh.gif
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good idea is to wait for discount coupon.
it could go down to RM864 - 20% = ~ RM691
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QUOTE(reno88 @ Aug 30 2011, 07:25 PM)
HI , may i know how to determine current my monitor are showing Full HD,
is that check on screen resolution ?  its show 1280x1080 ..

and when i watch youtube 1080p and 720p , seem like no difference ...
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Make sure you are running on native resolution, and if you're talking about youtube make sure you stream 1080p and use full screen.

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 31 2011, 08:42 AM)
Yup, cos price difference is RM35 only. And if wait a little, sure have discount and further coupon discount!
Dell doesn't reward early bird. laugh.gif
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Good stuffs goes to those that waits for Dell =/
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Any discount for the u2311h, lets say 550myr?
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can sum1 recommend me a monitor? T_T


seems like a lot of u here really loves dell monitor huh O.O


Added on August 31, 2011, 10:55 amjust saw..the U2412M got promotion

"Get Additional RM150 cash off. Coupon Code:JFDLCN701KHK0S"

That would be RM899 - 150 = 749 O.O

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The model that I'm talking is the ViewSonic VX2268wm.

When I'm searching for ViewSonic LCD 120Hz model, and I found this:

Hong Kong ViewSonic website stated Frequency Fh: 65~185KHz, Fv:60~120Hz
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Well, from Malaysia ViewSonic website, it stated Frequency Fh: 24~82KHz, Fv: 50~75Hz
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A little confuse here, ViewSonic in Malaysia can't go for 120Hz refresh rate in 2D monitor view while Hong Kong can? Or it is ViewSonic website self false information?

I'm looking for 120Hz refresh rate LCD monitor in 2D mode anyway, for games. I don't really care about 3D but as long as it run 120Hz refresh rate compare to normal LCD which running 60Hz refresh rate, I'll happy with that.

So far I've target this one, the LG W2363D, 120Hz refresh rate and Full HD at all time. Got this LCD model from overclocker forum. Any comment?


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I tried to post at Hardware question section, but no one reply....
Any sifu here can help me??

Dear all forumers...

Currently I got a project which required to connect the 2 LCD and the LCD ONLY have the DVI connector.
The length of the slave LCD about 20 meter long and I also require 1 DVI splitter to connect the LCD....
I had tried to search the 20m DVI cable and DVI splitter, but cant get it at most of the store.

My questions are below:

1. Is anyone can advise where can buy the long DVI cable and DVI splitter?

2. If the 1st question is NO, then is it possible to buy the DVI to HDMI cable (from source) and use the HDMI splitter to connect 2 HDMI to DVI cables (to both LCD)? rclxub.gif

If not, any other comment about this?

Thank You~~~~
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Sep 1 2011, 12:00 AM)
I tried to post at Hardware question section, but no one reply....
Any sifu here can help me??

Dear all forumers...

Currently I got a project which required to connect the 2 LCD and the LCD ONLY have the DVI connector.
The length of the slave LCD about 20 meter long and I also require 1 DVI splitter to connect the LCD....
I had tried to search the 20m DVI cable and DVI splitter, but cant get it at most of the store.

My questions are below:

1. Is anyone can advise where can buy the long DVI cable and DVI splitter?

2. If the 1st question is NO, then is it possible to buy the DVI to HDMI cable (from source) and use the HDMI splitter to connect 2 HDMI to DVI cables (to both LCD)? rclxub.gif

If not, any other comment about this?

Thank You~~~~
Long DVI cables are rare... but not HDMI.... I believe I bought a 20m HDMI around RM100 (or less, cannot recall).

DVI splitter unlike VGA spitter, are rare and expensive, example:
http://sewelldirect.com/gefendvisplitter.asp

It's much cheaper to run 2 (20m) HDMI cables from a dual DVI/HDMI graphics card and clone the display outputs.

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 1 2011, 09:17 AM)
Long DVI cables are rare... but not HDMI.... I believe I bought a 20m HDMI around RM100 (or less, cannot recall).

DVI splitter unlike VGA spitter, are rare and expensive, example:
http://sewelldirect.com/gefendvisplitter.asp

It's much cheaper to run 2 (20m) HDMI cables from a dual DVI/HDMI graphics card and clone the display outputs.
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Thanks for reply...

Based on your suggestion, I can't mod the hardware, It only provide DVI output.
So, do you think my second question on top is possible to work out?
Means, use DVI to HDMI cable and connect it to HDMI switch, then split 2 HDMI cable and convert to DVI for LCD.


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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Sep 1 2011, 06:13 PM)
Thanks for reply...

Based on your suggestion, I can't mod the hardware, It only provide DVI output.
So, do you think my second question on top is possible to work out?
Means, use DVI to HDMI cable and connect it to HDMI switch, then split 2 HDMI cable and convert to DVI for LCD.
For Emphasis: A HDMI switch ... switches from one output to another, it does not split (clone) the signal for 2 LCDs, one LCD will get the signal @ any given time.

As mentioned: Digital spliters are expensive.

HDMI/DVI switches are available from RM50 to 80.

A Switch is not a Spliter.... Do you want a Switch or Spliter?

SL-DVI and HDMI is essentially the same you just need adapters (analogy USB and mini-USB, DP and Mini-DP).

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 1 2011, 07:50 PM)
For Emphasis: A HDMI switch ... switches from one output to another, it does not split (clone) the signal for 2 LCDs, one LCD will get the signal @ any given time.

As mentioned: Digital spliters are expensive.

HDMI/DVI switches are available from RM50 to 80.

A Switch is not a Spliter.... Do you want a Switch or Spliter?

SL-DVI and HDMI is essentially the same you just need adapters (analogy USB and mini-USB, DP and Mini-DP).
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Opps.. Sorry, my mistake.
What I mean is HDMI splitter.
So, I can try the method i posted?

Thank You!
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Hi..my netbook is acer ao522 with reso 1280x720.. Recently the monitor damaged.. My lappy have hdmi output.. My question is if i wanna buy external lcd monitor,, do i need to buy the 1 that have hdmi input also or just a usual lcd monitor??
I mean does the quality of using dvicable the same as using hdmi cable?? Sory for noob q..thnx guys..
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 31 2011, 09:04 AM)
good idea is to wait for discount coupon.
it could go down to RM864 - 20% = ~ RM691
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For now, comparing those 2 (U2312HM & U2412M), with an extra RM35, u could get U2312M which is a good bargain but,
I'm still waiting for U2312HM discount coupon biggrin.gif

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buy now sure whine when dell drop some discount coupon later lol

waiting and waiting..6XX is a good price
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buy now sure whine when dell drop some discount coupon later lol

waiting and waiting..6XX is a good price
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Yeap, for Dell new LCD it is wise to wait for discounts. Early worm gets eaten by the bird unfortunately in this case.
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Sep 1 2011, 08:03 PM)
Opps.. Sorry, my mistake.
What I mean is HDMI splitter.
So, I can try the method i posted?

Thank You!
Yes... but far more economical to run 2 cables instead... SL-DVI or HDMI is just adapter differences.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 2 2011, 05:29 AM)
buy now sure whine when dell drop some discount coupon later lol

waiting and waiting..6XX is a good price
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 2 2011, 08:03 AM)
Yeap, for Dell new LCD it is wise to wait for discounts. Early worm gets eaten by the bird unfortunately in this case.
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It's instant cash redemption... we are waiting for coupons thumbup.gif
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Can we expect U2311H's prices to drop/get discounts with the release of the XX12M series?

I love 24", but as I intend to get a triple-monitor set-up down the road, the cost savings > extra dimension.
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Sep 2 2011, 04:17 PM)
It's instant cash redemption... we are waiting for coupons thumbup.gif
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RM649 is alright..just wait for some review 1st tongue.gif

whats the difference instant cash redemption to discount coupon?
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 2 2011, 06:55 PM)
RM649 is alright..just wait for some review 1st  tongue.gif

whats the difference instant cash redemption to discount coupon?
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further discount lah..
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Instant cash redemption will be there for almost all products at all time, according to Dell it's a price reduction you get buy purchasing online (Can you actually buy through other mediums?)...

Coupons are seasonal special codes for you to enter so that you get further discount when you check out...

By the way, if the price falls below that of RM550, I'll make my purchase brows.gif
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Instant cash redemption will be there for almost all products at all time, according to Dell it's a price reduction you get buy purchasing online (Can you actually buy through other mediums?)...

Coupons are seasonal special codes for you to enter so that you get further discount when you check out...

By the way, if the price falls below that of RM550, I'll make my purchase brows.gif

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The Dell UltraSharp U2312HM is listed as RM864 for Home and RM649 for Small & Medium Business!

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The Dell UltraSharp U2312HM is listed as RM864 for Home and RM649 for Small & Medium Business!
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Yes... but far more economical to run 2 cables instead... SL-DVI or HDMI is just adapter differences.
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im quite interested in the S23A950D as well, but the price im not sure if its worth it sad.gif

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im quite interested in the S23A950D as well, but the price im not sure if its worth it sad.gif

have my eyes on dell but then most of them doesn't come with HDMI input..cant connect my ps3 to it unless i get a dvi->hdmi ..

love the new S2330MX.looks so thin
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probably because of those additonal Pluses that can be found in U2412 compare to S2330MX, if u ask me, U2412 is more for professional usage like those photographers.
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I'm curious... the U2412M is also LED but looks so fat compared to the S2330MX... wonder why cannot make it thinner sad.gif
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hey all, Im having a problem with my monitor ... Its a Samsung B2430 24'' LCD monitor. Erm, certain games (usually warcraft), when I alt+tab, then the monitor backouts and doesnt show anything. I have to turn it on and off a few times then it will only show the image.

Why is this so ?? Hope someone can help me. Thanks
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 3 2011, 06:14 PM)
I'm curious... the U2412M is also LED but looks so fat compared to the S2330MX... wonder why cannot make it thinner sad.gif
I presume... being thick that it's not edge lit and you can have localised dimming... It (U2412M) very light though and saves energy. May get 2 more for 6 multi-monitors...
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But the latter's using TN panel no? Maybe the panel type has certain restrictions on how slim it can be. Just a thought.
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I presume... being thick that it's not edge lit and you can have localised dimming... It (U2412M) very light though and saves energy. May get 2 more for 6 multi-monitors...
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This one sounds logical. This could be it, but so far didn't noticed the dimming yet or maybe need to run in certain mode. My old samsung LCD if set to dynamic contrast it will dim according to what is displayed, but is whole screen dim thought not localized.
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My god, I've been calibrating my monitors for 2 days already sweat.gif Gotta calibrate it at night, then verify in the morning, and calibrate again
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My god, I've been calibrating my monitors for 2 days already sweat.gif Gotta calibrate it at night, then verify in the morning, and calibrate again
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Alamak, why take so long then? Outcome not accurate enough?
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Well, you need to match the brightness, gamma, RGB chart, color temperature, then run the software. It's not that easy unless you have a very capable monitor. My Dell U3011 was a lot easier to calibrate. I'm working on my other two monitors and getting everything to align is very difficult.
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There's usually a pre cal to set for color temp, and brightness before running right? As in for example D65 (6500K) and 120cd/m2 for white target.
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That's useless. Monitors are calibrated in different environment and all monitors' output would drift over time.
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Is monitor need to like calibrate in timely fashion? Is those displayport cable easy to acquire? Just world like to know for a dual U2412 setup. VGA and DVI will work right? Or better stick with DP and DVI? Thanks.
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Is monitor need to like calibrate in timely fashion? Is those displayport cable easy to acquire? Just world like to know for a dual U2412 setup. VGA and DVI will work right? Or better stick with DP and DVI? Thanks.
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My dell U2412M monitor just arrived today.. rclxm9.gif
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guyz,need ur opinon,i am doing graphic design,need correct color fot photo produce,any recommend for dell monitor,i saw dell come out many promotion and new product wif led technology,but its led suitable for ips ?
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guyz,need ur opinon,i am doing graphic design,need correct color fot photo produce,any recommend for dell monitor,i saw dell come out many promotion and new product wif led technology,but its led suitable for ips ?
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How accurate you want it to be?
How much budget you willing to spend on single monitor?
LED for IPS is just matter of personal preference I guess, some prefer CCFL due to gamut coverage? (correct this)
U2410 and higher end IPS still using CCFL except for Apple Cinema is an exception.
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How accurate you want it to be?
How much budget you willing to spend on single monitor?
LED for IPS is just matter of personal preference I guess, some prefer CCFL due to gamut coverage? (correct this)
U2410 and higher end IPS still using CCFL except for Apple Cinema is an exception.
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hope what i see the color on my new monitor screen,is almost the same photo after print out .

budget is below 1k.

so LED just an extra bonus feature for nowadays monitor ? hehe drool.gif
do it increase the peformance ?

ccfl ?don know
U2412M, U2410, U2311H,U2312HM hav it?
blink.gif i think hav to learn from u again. Its related to sRGB and Adobe RGB?

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My monitors. 54" in total, Dell 2007FP / Dell U3011 / Dell 2007FP. 4960 x 1600

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so LED just an extra bonus feature for nowadays  monitor ? hehe drool.gif
do it increase the peformance ?
White LEDs; Longer and more stable Back-light life span............... Less colour coverage/range
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My monitors. 70" in total, Dell 2007FP / Dell U3011 / Dell 2007FP. 4960 x 1600
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o really? I just summed them up biggrin.gif Tried to hack them to run eyefinity today but doesn't look like many games can do it
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 5 2011, 10:06 PM)
o really? I just summed them up biggrin.gif Tried to hack them to run eyefinity today but doesn't look like many games can do it
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My monitors. 70" in total, Dell 2007FP / Dell U3011 / Dell 2007FP. 4960 x 1600
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nice setup drool.gif

and owikh84 is right, its roughly 52" as it is counted based on the diagonal viewpoint of the screen

but is monitor inch size still relevant these days for pc monitor? since what we usually care about is the total pixel resolution. *my opinion*
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Previously I had 3 x 24" but the monitors span way too wide and are way out of any human's field of view (considering our 1.5-2ft sitting distance). I sold one of them and gave 2 to my dad. I saw this PLP setup on hardforum and decided to buy these guys biggrin.gif My nature of work warranted the purchase.

Unfortunately native eyefinity would not run on a PLP setup. I've only managed to get Dead space 2 to use all the screen with a hack/trick.
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actually wat was the problem with eyefinity? curious to ask
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Eyefinity only works in these modes:

P = Portrait
L = Landscape

PPP / LLL
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 6 2011, 02:06 AM)
Eyefinity only works in these modes:

P = Portrait
L = Landscape

PPP / LLL
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P
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PPP
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for 6 displays

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@BeastX , thanks for the advice. Heard you going to put 6 monitors.
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Sep 6 2011, 09:49 AM)
@BeastX , thanks for the advice. Heard you going to put 6 monitors.
PPP
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I still lack one 1920x1200 monitor and a GC for a 5760x2400 (6 monitor desktop array)....

needs at least RM 1k more investment



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plus some more for a frame or something to hold the LCDs in the
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Those frame as expensive right, like 600myr?

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Sep 6 2011, 11:33 AM)
Those frame as expensive right, like 600myr?
Minor.... easily built... especially with LED LCD's light weight ... just screw on to the VESA mounts

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6 monitors are really nice but you're gonna be sitting a few more ft back from the desk. biggrin.gif I believe 2 x 6990 is required to get decent PQ out of it. I'm looking to get a few arms to hold my monitors so that I have a little more room beneath them, but ergotron arms are very expensive.

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Just ordered the 2412M with 5 year warranty for 790. A slight discount but I'm happy with that. Can't wait till it arrives.
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QUOTE(edisonkum @ Sep 5 2011, 12:50 PM)
hope what i see the color on my new monitor screen,is almost the same photo after print out .
blink.gif i think hav to learn from u again. Its related to sRGB  and Adobe RGB?
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My 30" card reader is dead. Cannot detect in windows and causes PC to stuck in bios. Calling Dell to get a new one tomorrow thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 6 2011, 03:47 PM)
My 30" card reader is dead. Cannot detect in windows and causes PC to stuck in bios. Calling Dell to get a new one tomorrow thumbup.gif
refurb unit probably.... but why not wait till near end of warranty.
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Just ordered the 2412M with 5 year warranty for 790. A slight discount but I'm happy with that. Can't wait till it arrives.
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Bro, how you get the discount? from dell website?
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use this code JFDLCN701KHK0S , expiring on 8 spet
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 6 2011, 05:58 PM)
use this code JFDLCN701KHK0S , expiring on 8 spet
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Yup. I know this code.
After discount is RM 749 with 3years warranty but his one is RM 790 with 5years warranty
Additional 2years warranty will cost RM 62.. hmm.gif
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hmm... wondering as well. but my guess might be talking with a sales representative?
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hmm... wondering as well. but my guess might be talking with a sales representative?
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If it's refurb I won't accept it. I believe there's a new revision A03 now but I'm not sure if I'd be getting it as those were just released in July 2011
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QUOTE(edisonkum @ Sep 5 2011, 12:21 AM)
guyz,need ur opinon,i am doing graphic design,need correct color fot photo produce,any recommend for dell monitor,i saw dell come out many promotion and new product wif led technology,but its led suitable for ips ?
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Maybe you wanna wait for the new PLS monitor from Samsung which just launch recently. According to them, it is better than IPS panel and more important it is cheaper than IPS panel. drool.gif
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Oh talk to sales representative will get cheaper?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 6 2011, 09:36 PM)
Yup2, I chatted with a SA and he got me this price. Didn't had to haggle at all. First time ask straight give me this price. So I was quite happy with him.
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hmm my dell 2412m is here but then i having some problem with the color settings lol cause comparing with my u2410 the white colors on u2410 is more yellowish and for the 2412 is more blue tint....is this normal?
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It's the color temperature. You'd need to calibrate and match the colors manually
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can i know how to do so? so that i can make both monitor color look the same and easier for my eyes
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i think he meant by tweaking around within the monitor's OSD (like the brightness, contract, custom RGB setting etc)
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yea i still cant get the right setting for both...it seems like i am having problems with the 2412m having a very bright blue white color compare to my 2410...for now my both monitor is using the inbuilt preset for game mode...and it seems like very very bright and i have to low their brightness especially on 2410...but then normally my 2410 is using 35 brightness setting which i already feel is bright enough

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You need to have a colorimeter. i.e. Spyder, Eye-One (i1), and etc.

I'm currently using a Spyder 2 Pro but my i1 display 2 will be here in a few more days. Looking to sell the sypder if you anybody is interested brows.gif

Btw, color matching and calibration is very important especially if you have multiple monitor/edit pictures/seeking for accurate color representation. If the panels are different, you can get the displays very close to each other but you would almost never be able to get theme exactly the same.

I.e. I could never get my 20" Dell to look like my 30".


Added on September 7, 2011, 1:44 pmBTW does anybody know where can I get decent monitor arm (desk mount)? Ergotron is very expensive here and I'm not even sure who sells them other than Dell

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hit me up if u r selling ur spyder, currently interested in taking my first steps proper color calibrations tongue.gif

true, u can getting very close to matching but never perfectly matching but never experience myself thou. at least better than nothing

i remember seeing a garage sale on deskmounts but aesthetically, ergotron wins but too expensive cry.gif than again, functionality shuld be the main focus. I bet some furniture shops that specialise in office supplies might have
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i think i getting the kind of near same color calibrate of the 2412 with my 2410 by playing the rgb setting of 2412...and i am not sure why the physical length of this 2412 seems to be longer then my 2410
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Sep 7 2011, 05:59 PM)
i think i getting the kind of near same color calibrate of the 2412 with my 2410 by playing the rgb setting of 2412...and i am not sure why the physical length of this 2412 seems to be longer then my 2410
Same pixel pitch.... same to me and I have every 24" ultra except for 2408
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yo U2412M owners.. does your power button light change to orange after you off your screen for like 5 minutes?
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yo U2412M owners.. does your power button light change to orange after you off your screen for like 5 minutes?
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Yes, blue is turned on and orange for standby.
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unlucky, the U2412M, I got has a bright red pixel ...
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unlucky, the U2412M, I got has a bright red pixel ...
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unlucky, the U2412M, I got has a bright red pixel ...
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what do u mean by bright red pixel? got any sample?
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Sep 8 2011, 07:41 AM)
unlucky, the U2412M, I got has a bright red pixel ...
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 8 2011, 07:43 AM)
Bright pixel --> able to warranty right? Better than getting dead pixels which is not covered by the warranty.
Claim it fast (or wait/sit on it for a month or so that they may announce a firmware etc..A01) .... you should get a new unit, I've not heard of firmware errors that plague the 2407, 2408 and 2410.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 8 2011, 07:37 AM)
Yes, blue is turned on and orange for standby.
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need to off main switch if dont want to standby?
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Sep 8 2011, 08:31 AM)
what do u mean by bright red pixel? got any sample?
Examples:
Bright pixel:
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Bright red-subpixel
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Source:
http://www.edldisplays.com/whitepapers/pixeldefects.php

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Sep 8 2011, 07:41 AM)
unlucky, the U2412M, I got has a bright red pixel ...
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could be the same thing as what u seen on urs?

at first i thought this was a dead pixel, but google found that was actually called a stuck pixel which can disappear in few days laugh.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=44605211
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^Technically it's not a dead pixel... but the opposite, bright-pixel, be it temporary. lightly massage it and flash multiple colours to it...if it remains stuck, claim warranty..

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need to off main switch if dont want to standby?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 8 2011, 09:12 AM)
Up to you, I usually leave mine on standby if I'm away for a while and turns it off when I away even longer (vacation? tongue.gif)
I suppose a good practice is the switch on the monitor should be off. More prudent and saves more energy than on stand-by though I suppose some energy draw is still there.
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unlucky, the U2412M, I got has a bright red pixel ...
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Use these method, got few stuck pixel on my old Samsung monitor, but its gone after applying these method, both software and some pressure icon_rolleyes.gif
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Examples:
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so this mean when displaying a black background and can see a white pixel instead is call bright pixel?
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so this mean when displaying a black background and can see a white pixel instead is call bright pixel?
See white, yes bright-pixel, all 3 sub-pixels are bright.

See any other colour it's it's bright Sub-pixel (or sub-pixels).... If see Red, Green or Blue then that individual sub-pixel is bright. Any 2 of the RGB pixels could also be bright for other colour combinations.
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I suppose a good practice is the switch on the monitor should be off. More prudent and saves more energy than on stand-by though I suppose some energy draw is still there.
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Yup, agreed, just wondering if this was normal.. Because the light is orange for like 8 hours.. I was under the impression that it should only go to standby mode if the computer is on... well it works like TV now.. The red light still on when you switch off the TV..
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yea i still cant get the right setting for both...it seems like i am having problems with the 2412m having a very bright blue white color compare to my 2410...for now my both monitor is using the inbuilt preset for game mode...and it seems like very very bright and i have to low their brightness especially on 2410...but then normally my 2410 is using 35 brightness setting which i already feel is bright enough
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But you might be able to get U2412M close enough and adjust the U2410 to match U2412M instead.
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Can anyone suggest to me the setup that I can make to combine my LG E2341V (Full HD) HDMI 23" to make a triple setup monitors.

My idea to make the other 2 monitors to be in vertical position whist the middle one is my 23" monitor

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OMG!!!! U2311H was just taken down from Dell's website!

And speaking to the SA, he said that it's not available anymore!!! doh.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 8 2011, 04:11 PM)
OMG!!!! U2311H was just taken down from Dell's website!

And speaking to the SA, he said that it's not available anymore!!! doh.gif
well Dell don't like to keep more inventory/old stocks than they have to.. part of their business strategy...

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well Dell don't like to keep more inventory/old stocks than they have to.. part of their business strategy...
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I thought they're going offer discounts to clear stocks for the U2311H!

That's what they did to their Studio XPS laptops last time. RM3599 laptop discounted until RM2999 =.=

I dearly hope they'd put it back on the site cry.gif
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Just ordered the 2412M with 5 year warranty for 790. A slight discount but I'm happy with that. Can't wait till it arrives.
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Can pm me the agent's contact?
btw, anyone get U2412M with 5 years warranty lower than 790? or what's the lowest price can get with standard 3 years warranty so far?
and reminder to all, today is last day of U2412M promo. not sure will get extended tml or not!?
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Can pm me the agent's contact?
btw, anyone get U2412M with 5 years warranty lower than 790? or what's the lowest price can get with standard 3 years warranty so far?
and reminder to all, today is last day of U2412M promo. not sure will get extended tml or not!?
Maybe a better deal tomorrow.....


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can you guys explain this, taken from dell website for u2711 stated that..

DELL SPECIAL PROMOTIONS
Get RM747 (Incl. GST) Instant Cash Redemption - ONLINE !
Hurry ! Available on Dell™ 27" Ultrasharp™ Widescreen Monitor (U2711).
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Get additional RM300 instant cash redemption. Coupon code Z4F1CS0TMGLWLT

can i use both and save a whopping $1047...?
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QUOTE(jagged @ Sep 9 2011, 12:43 AM)
can you guys explain this, taken from dell website for u2711 stated that..

DELL SPECIAL PROMOTIONS
Get RM747 (Incl. GST) Instant Cash Redemption - ONLINE !
Hurry ! Available on Dell™ 27" Ultrasharp™ Widescreen Monitor (U2711).
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Get additional RM300 instant cash redemption. Coupon code Z4F1CS0TMGLWLT

can i use both and save a whopping $1047...?
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RM747 (Incl. GST) Instant Cash Redemption is alreadly included in the price, while coupon code is not yet included, can be added or not.
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1 stuck pixel in UltraSharp eligible for warranty right? Thanks.
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QUOTE(jagged @ Sep 9 2011, 12:43 AM)
can you guys explain this, taken from dell website for u2711 stated that..

DELL SPECIAL PROMOTIONS
Get RM747 (Incl. GST) Instant Cash Redemption - ONLINE !
Hurry ! Available on Dell™ 27" Ultrasharp™ Widescreen Monitor (U2711).
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Get additional RM300 instant cash redemption. Coupon code Z4F1CS0TMGLWLT

can i use both and save a whopping $1047...?
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I still sees it as RM300 discount only.
Anyway they are clearing it for new model.
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U2412M website price is back to RM899, wonder any more surprises or not soon.
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monitor just arrived this morning. Everythings ok i guess. and wow 24 inch is actually huge. I didn't expect it to be this big. But im happy. Since im going overseas with it, does anyone know a dafe way to pack it? i thought ill just put it in my cabin bag but now i know it wont fit.
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monitor just arrived this morning. Everythings ok i guess. and wow 24 inch is actually huge. I didn't expect it to be this big. But im happy. Since im going overseas with it, does anyone know a dafe way to pack it? i thought ill just put it in my cabin bag but now i know it wont fit.
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pack it back into its original shipping box?
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I thought they're going offer discounts to clear stocks for the U2311H!

That's what they did to their Studio XPS  laptops last time. RM3599 laptop discounted until RM2999 =.=

I dearly hope they'd put it back on the site cry.gif
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sort of made the same mistake as you, thought they were going to further drop the price of u2311h, turns out now dont get to buy it anymore, and u2312hm's promotion ended before i could get one for myself :<
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pack it back into its original shipping box?
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Thought about that too but i also have to bring my desktop (haf 912) with me as well so i have no idea how to pack those things. add to the fact that the airport workers usually handle the cargo roughly i get worried. sigh.
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sort of made the same mistake as you, thought they were going to further drop the price of u2311h, turns out now dont get to buy it anymore, and u2312hm's promotion ended before i could get one for myself :<
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Yeah!! I was waiting.. and waiting... and waiting.. for the clearing stock discount doh.gif

But no worries, the price of the U2312HM should drop back to somewhere RM649 anytime soon smile.gif
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Yeah!! I was waiting.. and waiting... and waiting.. for the clearing stock discount doh.gif

But no worries, the price of the U2312HM should drop back to somewhere RM649 anytime soon smile.gif
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Yeah!! I was waiting.. and waiting... and waiting.. for the clearing stock discount doh.gif

But no worries, the price of the U2312HM should drop back to somewhere RM649 anytime soon smile.gif
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wonder hows the performance of u2312hm in comparison to u2311h
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Should have better contrast and brightness.

Perhaps better dynamic range also? smile.gif

Anyway, looks like there's no more hope to obtain a U2311H. I really prefer the sharp edges of the U2311H over the oval type of the U2312HM doh.gif

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Just setup my U2412M, fantastic  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 9 2011, 02:49 PM)
Anyway, looks like there's no more hope to obtain a U2311H. I really prefer the sharp edges of the U2311H over the oval type of the U2312HM doh.gif
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Should have better contrast and brightness.

Perhaps better dynamic range also? smile.gif

Anyway, looks like there's no more hope to obtain a U2311H. I really prefer the sharp edges of the U2311H over the oval type of the U2312HM doh.gif
Some pictures would be appreciated here mate, to feed us hungry wolves  thumbup.gif
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Finally today 9/9/2011 i received my mini DP to Full DP after waiting for 2 weeks. Purchased from ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com.my/140523428703) on 28/08/2011 for RM21.40 only plus shipping to Kajang, Selangor. It worked as advertised. Recommended to anyone looking for one.

Now i can connect my Macbook Pro to my Dell Ultrasharp U2412M in its highest performance. drool.gif

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QUOTE(ixiel @ Sep 9 2011, 10:29 PM)
Finally today 9/9/2011 i received my mini DP to Full DP after waiting for 2 weeks. Purchased from ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com.my/140523428703) on 28/08/2011 for RM21.40 only plus shipping to Kajang, Selangor. It worked as advertised. Recommended to anyone looking for one.

Now i can connect my Macbook Pro to my Dell Ultrasharp U2412M in its highest performance.  drool.gif

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i just ordered the same thing 4 days ago from taobao china! xD but slight more expensive RM30


ps anyone know how much can be a 10 month old with 5 year premium panel warranty u2311h can sell? i planning to sell mine and go to the 27" or 30" haha =D

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ok guys, what is this? I just noticed it when i had a blackscreen due youtube loading. its like a white fluorescent patch and u can see red pixels or dots there. what could of caused this? i didnt press the scren or anything.I got it today and i took very good care of it. I can ask for a replacement right?

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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 10 2011, 02:04 AM)
ok guys, what is this? I just noticed it when i had a blackscreen due youtube loading. its like a white fluorescent patch and u can see red pixels or dots there. what could of caused this? i didnt press the scren or anything.I got it today and i took very good care of it. I can ask for a replacement right?

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only appear in youtube's black screen or watever black screen? if it appear even in standby black screen its time for replacement =)
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whatever thats black. i did a black fill-in paint and i can see it alright. will check if its there in stand by but regardless im going to see if i can get it replaced. its definitely noticeable. I also see a bright pixel but im not worried about that since its not noticeable much.
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 10 2011, 02:25 AM)
whatever thats black. i did a black fill-in paint and i can see it alright. will check if its there in stand by but regardless im going to see if i can get it replaced. its definitely noticeable. I also see a bright pixel but im not worried about that since its not noticeable much.
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Well, its time to claim warranty in this case. Its abnormal if you're seeing it on black screen only. What about other colors? Do you see the blue-ish patch as well?
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i been wandering the led 2412m, is it give a very bright white color because of is led? i can feel like the white is giving a very bright color...only on white...
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 10 2011, 10:10 AM)
Well, its time to claim warranty in this case. Its abnormal if you're seeing it on black screen only. What about other colors? Do you see the blue-ish patch as well?
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Nope I can't see it on other colours. Only black. I think other colours mask the patch thats why i didn't noticed before. So if I ask for a replacement, do they replace it with a brand new monitor or do dell give me a refurbished unit? Or do they actually take my monitor and fix it?
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Nope I can't see it on other colours. Only black. I think other colours mask the patch thats why i didn't noticed before. So if I ask for a replacement, do they replace it with a brand new monitor or do dell give me a refurbished unit? Or do they actually take my monitor and fix it?
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If I remember correctly, Dell's warranty policy states that if your monitor is within 21 days old, then you will get a new monitor as a replacement. However, if it's more than that you will get a refurbished unit instead.

You should be eligible for a new replacement, but be sure to state that demand out clearly. When I requested for a replacement for my first faulty U2311H when it was just a day old, they sent a refurbished unit to me.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 10 2011, 01:18 PM)
If I remember correctly, Dell's warranty policy states that if your monitor is within 21 days old, then you will get a new monitor as a replacement. However, if it's more than that you will get a refurbished unit instead.

You should be eligible for a new replacement, but be sure to state that demand out clearly. When I requested for a replacement for my first faulty U2311H when it was just a day old, they sent a refurbished unit to me.
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How do u differentiate between new and refurbished unit? hmm.gif
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Alright then.I'll give them a call on monday. but based on my picture, I do have a case to ask for a replacement right?


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How do u differentiate between new and refurbished unit?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 10 2011, 02:25 AM)
whatever thats black. i did a black fill-in paint and i can see it alright. will check if its there in stand by but regardless im going to see if i can get it replaced. its definitely noticeable. I also see a bright pixel but im not worried about that since its not noticeable much.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 10 2011, 01:28 PM)
How do u differentiate between new and refurbished unit?  hmm.gif
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from my experiance the refurbished units is damn obvious, all the protecting stickers on dell logo and rear of the LCDs are gone, and there r dust in some air vent =)

QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 10 2011, 01:31 PM)
Alright then.I'll give them a call on monday. but based on my picture, I do have a case to ask for a replacement right?


Added on September 10, 2011, 1:32 pm

+1, good question. I would like to know as well.
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you definately can ask for a advance replacement =D and insist on u wan a new units instead of refurbished coz u just bought it!
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 10 2011, 01:28 PM)
How do u differentiate between new and refurbished unit?  hmm.gif
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The box that a refurbished monitor comes in should have the word "refurbished' placed over it. The box size should also be much bigger than a new Dell U2311H's box. Anyway, the refurbished monitor I received is also of an older revision. smile.gif

Additional info : A sticker will also be stuck onto the box with the monitor's model number and with the word "refurbished" on it other than the large sticker on the box to inform you.

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 10 2011, 01:41 PM)
The box that a refurbished monitor comes in should have the word "refurbished' placed over it. The box size should also be much bigger than a new Dell U2311H's box. Anyway, the refurbished monitor I received is also of an older revision. smile.gif

Additional info : A sticker will also be stuck onto the box with the monitor's model number and with the word "refurbished" on it other than the large sticker on the box to inform you.
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will you get the box too? mine just give him the lcd. the replacement is taken out from box and give me, then the affected unit put back the box and bring back hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Sep 10 2011, 04:07 PM)
will you get the box too? mine just give him the lcd. the replacement is taken out from box and give me, then the affected unit put back the box and bring back  hmm.gif
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Yes, I kept the box until I had to return it with the refurbished monitor. smile.gif I'm not exactly sure on how the new replacement will come, but mine came directly from their factory again all packed nicely, and with new accessories as well. biggrin.gif
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ok. Thanks for the tips. I'll give dell a call on monday.
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 10 2011, 04:49 PM)
ok. Thanks for the tips. I'll give dell a call on monday.
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yup btw take ur time to compare your replacement and ur current unit test 99 only call them come pick up =D u have 14 days to try it haha, i rmb my experiance i requested 2 replacement ( 1st for my usb port bursted,2nd replacement screen color seem very yellowish) so i have a total of 3 monitor with me haha =D tongue.gif
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I'm still contemplating between the LG IPS236V-PN or Dell UltraSharp U231HM. hmm.gif

Main usages will be entertainment and photos editing.

Will mount it on the wall. biggrin.gif

Between 5ms and 8ms. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2011, 11:32 PM)
I'm still contemplating between the LG IPS236V-PN or Dell UltraSharp U231HM. hmm.gif

Main usages will be entertainment and photos editing.

Will mount it on the wall. biggrin.gif

Between 5ms and 8ms. hmm.gif
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The response time will only matter greatly if you are watching movies or playing games which are running at an extremely fast pace. Otherwise it will not matter too much, or will not matter at all.

What is important in a monitor if you do not want any ghosting issues would be its input time. A monitor with a 5ms response time may be better than a monitor with a 8ms response time but if its input time is longer than the monitor with 8ms of response time, it could be worst.

Anyway, for most situations no one will be able to notice any form of ghosting on their monitors at all unless it's really really slow. Lets say 20ms of response time with a seriously bad display lag? smile.gif

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I believe the Dell U2312HM would be more superior than the LG equivalent in terms of Picture Quality? smile.gif

But come to think of it, it's a bit ironic because Dell's IPS panels are from LG right? laugh.gif
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Thanks guys for the input, it seems the Dell U2312HM still wins ya? hmm.gif

I thought of getting the LG tomorrow from LYP Viewnet. Looks like I'll need to sit down and consider again.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 11 2011, 12:24 AM)
Thanks guys for the input, it seems the Dell U2312HM still wins ya? hmm.gif

I thought of getting the LG tomorrow from LYP Viewnet. Looks like I'll need to sit down and consider again.
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I heard that the LG monitor has a horrible stand biggrin.gif.

If you prefer stand functionality and the industrial sort of look then the Dell U2312HM would be the way to go. smile.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 11 2011, 12:26 AM)
I heard that the LG monitor has a horrible stand biggrin.gif.

If you prefer stand functionality and the industrial sort of look then the Dell U2312HM would be the way to go. smile.gif
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Ah ha! That I agree. I'm so used to the industrial look of Dell monitors because I'm using it in the office as dual display. laugh.gif
Still, since I'm going to mount it on the wall, I guess that doesn't matter anymore. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 11 2011, 12:29 AM)
Ah ha! That I agree. I'm so used to the industrial look of Dell monitors because I'm using it in the office as dual display. laugh.gif
Still, since I'm going to mount it on the wall, I guess that doesn't matter anymore. tongue.gif
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Dell also offers a much better warranty policy than what LG offers. biggrin.gif The former has 3 years of warranty by default for the U2312HM and it can be extended to 5 years if you wish to do so. smile.gif Plus you get the benefit of not having to travel out of your house as Dell will send a courier to pick the item up and send it back to you free of charge.

The LG IPS236V-PN only has one year of warranty, and you're going to have to visit their service center to get it replaced. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Lonely @ Sep 10 2011, 11:16 PM)
yup btw take ur time to compare your replacement and ur current unit test 99 only call them come pick up =D u have 14 days to try it haha, i rmb my experiance i requested 2 replacement ( 1st for my usb port bursted,2nd replacement screen color seem very yellowish) so i have a total of 3 monitor with me haha =D tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 11 2011, 12:26 AM)
I heard that the LG monitor has a horrible stand biggrin.gif.

If you prefer stand functionality and the industrial sort of look then the Dell U2312HM would be the way to go. smile.gif
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I won't say horrible but its just that the U2312HM is more functional


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What are good ways to test monitors? To check for dead pixels, different colour tint etc.?
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try using this
http://www.vanity.dk/tft/monitorTest_scale.html

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Want to ask before sleep.

Wanted to buy 2312hm. But see the interface is display port.
My laptop has vga or hdmi only.
Which cable option should i choose now?
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 11 2011, 12:24 AM)
Thanks guys for the input, it seems the Dell U2312HM still wins ya? hmm.gif

I thought of getting the LG tomorrow from LYP Viewnet. Looks like I'll need to sit down and consider again.
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LG have no adjustable stand, for me it's one of the most important features of monitor to have good ergonomics.. Not sure why most manufacturer opt for fancy but useless stand
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 11 2011, 02:44 AM)
Want to ask before sleep.

Wanted to buy 2312hm. But see the interface is display port.
My laptop has vga or hdmi only.
Which cable option should i choose now?
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u only use the display port on the monitor when ur machine supports DP output.
since ur lappy has vga and hdmi, u can either use the VGA and cable that provided
or buy hdmi to DVI cable so u can connect it with any hdmi ouput device

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 11 2011, 03:02 AM)
LG have no adjustable stand, for me it's one of the most important features of monitor to have good ergonomics.. Not sure why most manufacturer opt for fancy but useless stand
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becuz its a consumer product and its cheaper to design and produce, therefore it sells.
u have to remember most ppl are just happy with "just works" scenarios. which is just sad.

speaking of which, I'm still waiting for samsung to release its IPS alternative, PLS.
than again, desktop monitor are not where the is but TV or mobile device and samsung is just happy with TN monitor for the time being.
But still I can't wait for Samsung S24A850 n S27A850 to arrive on Malaysia shores in the later months as initial impression looks interesting
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 11 2011, 03:02 AM)
LG have no adjustable stand, for me it's one of the most important features of monitor to have good ergonomics.. Not sure why most manufacturer opt for fancy but useless stand
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Yeah, I noticed that part too. smile.gif
Since I have no intention to put it on my table, I guess the stand doesn't really matter to me.
Will mount it on wall, to save space and it provides convenience when I watch movies from my bed. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 11 2011, 03:33 AM)
speaking of which, I'm still waiting for samsung to release its IPS alternative, PLS.
than again, desktop monitor are not where the is but TV or mobile device and samsung is just happy with TN monitor for the time being.
But still I can't wait for Samsung S24A850 n S27A850 to arrive on Malaysia shores in the later months as initial impression looks interesting
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In fact, Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 is already using their PLS panel..

The S24A850 looks good but I doubt the price would be able to match that of Dell's U2311H or even the U2412HM..

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one of the reason i stayed with dell was it's awesome stand.
besides that, ips for pricing around rm600 is goodie
angles won't be a problem with IPS ^^

hence i go with eyefinity haha

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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 11 2011, 03:33 AM)
u only use the display port on the monitor when ur machine supports DP output.
since ur lappy has vga and hdmi, u can either use the VGA and cable that provided
or buy hdmi to DVI cable so u can connect it with any hdmi ouput device
becuz its a consumer product and its cheaper to design and produce, therefore it sells.
u have to remember most ppl are just happy with "just works" scenarios. which is just sad.

speaking of which, I'm still waiting for samsung to release its IPS alternative, PLS.
than again, desktop monitor are not where the is but TV or mobile device and samsung is just happy with TN monitor for the time being.
But still I can't wait for Samsung S24A850 n S27A850 to arrive on Malaysia shores in the later months as initial impression looks interesting
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Oww thanks,

normally the DVI-HDMI dongle cost how much wan ah hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 11 2011, 03:02 AM)
LG have no adjustable stand, for me it's one of the most important features of monitor to have good ergonomics.. Not sure why most manufacturer opt for fancy but useless stand
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Totally agree with the stand, am running Dell U2412M with my old Samsung 2233SW, the old Samsung cannot adjust height at all sad.gif Now my Dell have to go lower because of that sigh... and its harder to put them side by side because I need to tilt the monitors due to the height.
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wonder how many days dell going to take if i order a 2312 now?
as im leaving on 20th of september smile.gif ,cheeers
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2011, 11:32 PM)
I'm still contemplating between the LG IPS236V-PN or Dell UltraSharp U231HM. hmm.gif

Main usages will be entertainment and photos editing.

Will mount it on the wall. biggrin.gif

Between 5ms and 8ms. hmm.gif
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For wall mount, please check if your monitor support VESA mount. I know Dell Ultrasharp supports it but do not think LG does.
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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Sep 11 2011, 10:42 AM)
wonder how many days dell going to take if i order a 2312 now?
as im leaving on 20th of september smile.gif ,cheeers
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It took them 3 days to send my 2412m to me from the day i order
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It took them 3 days to send my 2412m to me from the day i order
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For wall mount, please check if your monitor support VESA mount. I know Dell Ultrasharp supports it but do not think LG does.
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The LG IPS236V-PN has support for VESA mounting. smile.gif
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Does LYP have any Samsung showroom around? I want to have a look on S27A950D, or any where else has demo unit for this LCD around LYP?
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The new Samsung PLS monitors? I don't think they're here yet hmm.gif
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while S27A950D is the 3D monitor
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Not the SA850 PLS LCD, I'm looking for the 120hz 3D LCD monitor S27A950D.
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Not the SA850 PLS LCD, I'm looking for the 120hz 3D LCD monitor S27A950D.
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Want to ask. does anyone here have ordered a U2311H but instead Dell delivered to u a U2312HM?


Added on

this is what happen to me so I guess free upgrade? unsure.gif

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Guys, is there much different between CCFL backlight and LED type ?
hmm.gif

why my friend say the old type is better ah
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The current Dell LED IPS panel is using a single color white (WLED) backlight thus incomparable to the CCFL backlight which able to provide better color coverage and gamut.
This is all that I know since WLED is still new to the market but it's not too bad for entry IPS so you might not have notice it until you compare them side-by-side.
And also, WLED will make the white seems much blue in color, I did some side-by-side eye compare to my Samsung 2333SW and my laptop, my monitor has better color and probably I like warmer color better than my laptop WLED backlight.
Higher-end IPS probably has the RGB-LED (some other brands) by now which able to provide much accurate colors production than WLED, I have not seen enough articles to give much solid "words" so it's up to end users' "golden" eye. wink.gif
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 12 2011, 07:34 AM)
Guys, is there much different between CCFL backlight and LED type ?
hmm.gif

why my friend say the old type is better ah
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I'll get back on to you with that after I receive a colorimeter to calibrate both my U2311H (CCFL backlight) and U2312HM (WLED backlight).
But initial impression with a quick manual eye calibration, looks ok but I still need to use it a bit longer to tell.

While on a technical white LED backlight LCDs are more towards to blue side, but a user can compensate it by calibrating the monitor.
in fact, my U2312HM factory setting is more towards the reddish side than the CCFL, u2311h)

For general use and aesthetic purpose, LED backlight can last longer, lighter, thinner, cheaper and less power consumption.
becuz rarely we have setup that can take advantage of CCFL benefits that can justify in using it over LED
but still not saying CCFL is bad, but just that manufacturers are more likely to build more and more LED backlit LCD and phasing out CCFL at the casual consumer market. So becomes less and less of a choice
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 12 2011, 09:56 AM)
The current Dell LED IPS panel is using a single color white (WLED) backlight thus incomparable to the CCFL backlight which able to provide better color coverage and gamut.
This is all that I know since WLED is still new to the market but it's not too bad for entry IPS so you might not have notice it until you compare them side-by-side.
And also, WLED will make the white seems much blue in color, I did some side-by-side eye compare to my Samsung 2333SW and my laptop, my monitor has better color and probably I like warmer color better than my laptop WLED backlight.
Higher-end IPS probably has the RGB-LED (some other brands) by now which able to provide much accurate colors production than WLED, I have not seen enough articles to give much solid "words" so it's up to end users' "golden" eye. wink.gif
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So if im able to buy u2311h , shold i go for it? smile.gif
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So if im able to buy u2311h , shold i go for it? smile.gif
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So if im able to buy u2311h , shold i go for it? smile.gif
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u can find it anymore. Dell has discontinue selling it.
I order a u2311h 3 days b4 dell removed u2311h from their site and yet they didnt inform me beforehand that they replace my order with u2312hm (while only paying the price of u2311h tongue.gif )
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May I know is Dell 2412M a new product? I have never seen this model before. Somemore got display port and the price does seems right.
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May I know is Dell 2412M a new product? I have never seen this model before. Somemore got display port and the price does seems right.
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yes U2412M was just release a few weeks back. Its a cheaper variant 24 inch e-IPS WLED backlit LCD monitor.
Its not the direct successor to the U2410, unlike the u2211h and u2311h which was replaced by the U2212HM and U2312HM.
Since the U2410 is a higher grade H-IPS monitor and dell will continue this product for sometime until a worthy successor appears.
I believe Dell release the U2412M as a complement with its 22 and 23 inch variant (note: Dell Malaysia does not have U2212HM for sale)
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 12 2011, 03:05 PM)
yes U2412M was just release a few weeks back. Its a cheaper variant 24 inch e-IPS WLED backlit LCD monitor.
Its not the direct successor to the U2410, unlike the u2211h and u2311h which was replaced by the U2212HM and U2312HM.
Since the U2410 is a higher grade H-IPS monitor and dell will continue this product for sometime until a worthy successor appears.
I believe Dell release the U2412M as a complement with its 22 and 23 inch variant (note: Dell Malaysia does not have U2212HM for sale)
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Does it make so much diff between the U2412m and u2410? Got any link for any review of this new monitor?
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Sep 12 2011, 03:18 PM)
Does it make so much diff between the U2412m and u2410? Got any link for any review of this new monitor?
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 12 2011, 03:52 PM)
Thanks for the links. I think i will go for 2412m, as I will be using this monitor as secondary display, I've been having trouble getting 24 inches with display port, it seems like dell is making a right move. smile.gif

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Guys,
Should I get U2312HM or U2412M?
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guys just want to ask, i see that U2312HM does not have an audio connectivity, does that mean if i connect my ps3 then no audio out since i cannot connect speaker on the monitor?
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Should I get U2312HM or U2412M?
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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 12 2011, 05:31 PM)
Definitely U2412M if you are fine with paying that little extra. It is after all 120 pixels taller than the U2312HM and that is significant.
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16:10 ratio is more sought after. You can flank it with two 1600 x 1200 screen. Not possible with 1080
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16:10 ratio is more sought after. You can flank it with two 1600 x 1200 screen. Not possible with 1080
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16:10 ratio is more sought after. You can flank it with two 1600 x 1200 screen. Not possible with 1080
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1080 screen solution no posible to eyefinity??
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Wanna ask u guys... Why Dell's 27" so bloody expensive compared to what available in the market?
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QUOTE(okboy @ Sep 13 2011, 07:27 AM)
1080 screen solution no posible to eyefinity??
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1080 can eyefinity. alamak is talking about mix and match different monitor types

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Wanna ask u guys... Why Dell's 27" so bloody expensive compared to what available in the market?
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Dell 27 inch is a H-IPS running at native 2560x1440 res compare other 27 on display 27 which are just TN monitors and only up to 1920x1200 res.
Theres also the amount of accepted input ports or its support beyond truecolors or Adobe RGB and sRGB modes
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I'm wondering, right now my resolution is 1920 x1080, i bought another 2 which are 1920x1200, and do eyefinity. So it will make is 3 x 1920 x1080. I'm wondering hows the screen look like for 1920x1080 to be place on 1920x1200 LED?
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A bit cacat only i think hmm.gif

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Man I love dell's warranty. I called them yesterday about my monitor, got the new just now. Everything on the new monitor looks ok. Very happy right now.


Added on September 13, 2011, 12:01 pmaahh great. I guess I spoke too soon. Ok so on a white screen, I can see some bands moving in a wave-like movement. Its not obvious but i can notice it if i find it. Its like i can see the refresh cycle or something like that. Is that normal? If I choose to ignore it, does it have a bad effect on my monitor?

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Sep 13 2011, 10:22 AM)
I'm wondering, right now my resolution is 1920 x1080, i bought another 2 which are 1920x1200, and do eyefinity. So it will make is 3 x 1920 x1080. I'm wondering hows the screen look like for 1920x1080 to be place on 1920x1200 LED?
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I was using a U2410 and a U2311H for a while and the unusable black bars on the U2410 is rather big. I eventually got used to it as the weeks passed by, but replacing the U2311H for a U2412M was still a welcomed change.

QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 13 2011, 11:39 AM)
aahh great. I guess I spoke too soon. Ok so on a white screen, I can see some bands moving in a wave-like movement. Its not obvious but i can notice it if i find it. Its like i can see the refresh cycle or something like that. Is that normal? If I choose to ignore it, does it have a bad effect on my monitor?
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What cable are you using? DP, DVI or VGA?
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Currently using VGA cause im using my laptop. Once my desktop is built i'll be using DVI. Do you think it has something to do with the vga connection?
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QUOTE(FukaDa @ Sep 13 2011, 11:32 AM)
What's the best samsung LCD for gaming T_T i wan 2ms type any one can intro me a good one
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Samsung P2770H RM850 (Jayacom) - its a 27inch monitor with cheap price and 1ms response time.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS27EFHKUF/ZA


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Man I love dell's warranty. I called them yesterday about my monitor, got the new just now. Everything on the new monitor looks ok. Very happy right now.


Added on September 13, 2011, 12:01 pmaahh great. I guess I spoke too soon. Ok so on a white screen, I can see some bands moving in a wave-like movement. Its not obvious but i can notice it if i find it. Its like i can see the refresh cycle or something like that. Is that normal? If I choose to ignore it, does it have a bad effect on my monitor?
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only a day then u receive your new replace unit? shocking.gif

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Yes. Usually Dell's replacement is next business day
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I just wondering how does dell warranty work?
You call them, they will send a technician come over and replace the monitor for you or they will use courier to send to you?
btw, I decided to place my order on U2312 smile.gif
I don't it worth to pay extra for only one inch and 16:10 resolution
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You call them and they will send a courier to your house. Very simple. Supposed to put the old monitor into the new monitor box and return that box to them. But i gave them my box instead.
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 13 2011, 01:32 PM)
You call them and they will send a courier to your house. Very simple. Supposed to put the old monitor into the new monitor box and return that box to them. But i gave them my box instead.
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 13 2011, 01:32 PM)
You call them and they will send a courier to your house. Very simple. Supposed to put the old monitor into the new monitor box and return that box to them. But i gave them my box instead.
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wow, sounds great! thumbup.gif At the same time, them also bring a new replace unit to you?
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 13 2011, 12:14 PM)
Currently using VGA cause im using my laptop. Once my desktop is built i'll be using DVI. Do you think it has something to do with the vga connection?
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FYI, my monitor also got this so-called refresh from my laptop through VGA cables, and only happens on certain range of colors so it's fine, it's just the analogue signal problem, some older laptop has it worst.
You can however try to clean the port of the VGA cable or at the laptop, it might improve slightly but no guarantee.
There's electronic contacts cleaner, or you can use air-compressed can.
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 13 2011, 12:14 PM)
Currently using VGA cause im using my laptop. Once my desktop is built i'll be using DVI. Do you think it has something to do with the vga connection?
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I faced the same problem with my Dell S2409W plugged on VGA port of 8600M GT powered Dell Inspiron lappie.

After that i changed to Samsung 2333SW+ on the same lappie, no more flickering.
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What's the best samsung LCD for gaming T_T i wan 2ms type any one can intro me a good one
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FYI, Normal humans can only discern up to 8ms only.
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Sep 13 2011, 03:46 PM)
wow, sounds great!  thumbup.gif At the same time, them also bring a new replace unit to you?
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Yup, the courier gives the new monitor to you, replace it with the old one, sign some papers then its done.


QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 13 2011, 03:52 PM)
FYI, my monitor also got this so-called refresh from my laptop through VGA cables, and only happens on certain range of colors so it's fine, it's just the analogue signal problem, some older laptop has it worst.
You can however try to clean the port of the VGA cable or at the laptop, it might improve slightly but no guarantee.
There's electronic contacts cleaner, or you can use air-compressed can.
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Then i guess it has to be the connection then. Thanks for the answers guys.
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QUOTE(FukaDa @ Sep 13 2011, 11:32 AM)
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Get 120Hz 3D monitor, it should provide very smooth 120Hz under 2D gaming.
Dell Alienware is one of it, Alienware OptX™ AW2310.
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/sna.asp...ainment_monitor

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 13 2011, 04:18 PM)
FYI, Normal humans can only discern up to 8ms only.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 13 2011, 05:04 PM)
Get 120Hz 3D monitor, it should provide very smooth 120Hz under 2D gaming.
Dell Alienware is one of it, Alienware OptX™ AW2310.
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/sna.asp...ainment_monitor
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I rather get Samsung S23A950D, comes with 3D glasses and 2D to 3D convert function.

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Elo... One more question.

I am building a new rig with i5 2500k and bla bla bla.

should I get LED or LCD or doesn't really matter?
If 24"... which one best performance I should get?
If 27"... which one best performance I should get?

Er... price wise, I am ok to fork 1k for a 27" but not 2-3k for the Dell one though. He! He!...
Why 24 or 27? Coz sometimes, since 27" might be still new... tech has not catch up yet and bla bla...

So pls... advise pls.
I'll use the PC for gaming, watching movie, photoshop.
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Elo... One more question.

I am building a new rig with i5 2500k and bla bla bla.

should I get LED or LCD or doesn't really matter?
If 24"... which one best performance I should get?
If 27"... which one best performance I should get?

Er... price wise, I am ok to fork 1k for a 27" but not 2-3k for the Dell one though. He! He!...
Why 24 or 27? Coz sometimes, since 27" might be still new... tech has not catch up yet and bla bla...

So pls... advise pls.
I'll use the PC for gaming, watching movie, photoshop.
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For 24" I suggest the Dell IPS U2412HM

For 27" I suggest the Samsung P2770H

The Dell has an IPS screen which will tar pao the P2770H(TN panel) but loses out on the extra 4" size
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Sep 13 2011, 12:14 PM)
Currently using VGA cause im using my laptop. Once my desktop is built i'll be using DVI. Do you think it has something to do with the vga connection?
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Very likely to be the cable or a noisy power adaptor for your laptop.

I had a similar problem with a laptop and another monitor, an old Dell G2410 (a crappy RM800~ LED display no longer available). I borrowed my VGA cable from my U2410 to replace the G2410's VGA cable and the problem went away. Switching back to the G2410 cable and I get the problem back.

And then later, I had to replace the power adaptor for another reason. By chance, I tested back with the G2410 VGA cable and I didn't had the problem any more.

I hope that helps you. smile.gif

QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 13 2011, 06:52 PM)
For 24" I suggest the Dell IPS U2412HM

For 27" I suggest the Samsung P2770H

The Dell has an IPS screen which will tar pao the P2770H(TN panel) but loses out on the extra 4" size
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The P2770H is a crappy product that should be boycott for normal users, UNLESS you have a vision problem and would prefer oversized fonts for easier reading. It is after all 1920x1080 on 27", compared to 1920x1200 on a 24" U2412M. I would recommend the P2770H for my grandmother, but not for my friends.

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The P2770H is a crappy product that should be boycott for normal users, UNLESS you have a vision problem and would prefer oversized fonts for easier reading. It is after all 1920x1080 on 27", compared to 1920x1200 on a 24" U2412M. I would recommend the P2770H for my grandmother, but not for my friends.
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So you mean 27" is a little oversized for 1920x1080?

Hmmm this is something new for me. Thanks for the tip smile.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 13 2011, 07:24 PM)
So you mean 27" is a little oversized for 1920x1080?

Hmmm this is something new for me. Thanks for the tip smile.gif
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try put this way,

use 800x600 on 22" vs the native reso 1680x1050 sweat.gif
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try put this way,

use 800x600 on 22" vs the native reso 1680x1050  sweat.gif
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I understand what your point is but I always thought 1920X1080 was still "ok" for 27". 32" is definitely out lah biggrin.gif

Btw, mana gambar bro?? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 13 2011, 08:01 PM)
I understand what your point is but I always thought 1920X1080 was still "ok" for 27". 32" is definitely out lah biggrin.gif

Btw, mana gambar bro?? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 13 2011, 08:01 PM)
I understand what your point is but I always thought 1920X1080 was still "ok" for 27". 32" is definitely out lah biggrin.gif
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1080p is definitely ok for 27", it depends on how far you sitting away from the monitor to appreciate the pixel density.

Those who do not know the Ultrasharp series will definitely not appreciate the worthiness of Dell high-end IPS panel.
The 30" price is even scarier... sweat.gif still quite cheap compare to others even higher-end IPS in the market.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 13 2011, 08:01 PM)
I understand what your point is but I always thought 1920X1080 was still "ok" for 27". 32" is definitely out lah biggrin.gif
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I get the impression that a number of buyers don't understand what are screen resolutions and simply went for the "bigger" and "cheaper" display.

It is also easier to go multiple displays, if you want, with 24" IPS displays, as they take less desk space and maintain good colours from more angles. TN panels do poorly for multiple displays because of the poor display angles.
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According to the review on youtube, this monitor is nothing wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbIOCMUPmP8
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the reviewer is literally judging the monitor by its cover. nothing wrong about it. but its not very informative for ppl that want hard facts and number to prove the merits of the monitor.

Maybe for casual user or even normal gamers, beyond Full HD monitors are not important to them. Certainly for normal gamers, beyond FullHD monitor means that u need a very beefy gaming rig just to support 2560x1440 res and for casual user, the price for those monitors can easier go beyond the cost of the CPU itself.

Opinion vary btw ppl and for me 23/24 are just the sweet spot for fullHD monitors

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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 13 2011, 07:11 PM)
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The P2770H is a crappy product that should be boycott for normal users, UNLESS you have a vision problem and would prefer oversized fonts for easier reading. It is after all 1920x1080 on 27", compared to 1920x1200 on a 24" U2412M. I would recommend the P2770H for my grandmother, but not for my friends.
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I don't know why'd anybody buy anything else but Dell's display tbh. Unless you are looking for super wide color gamut IPS panels. I'd never bother buying screens from any other brands, despite whatever technology they claim to have.

Dell offers:

1) Second to none warranty service - direct on site replacement (next business days when available)
2) No dead pixel premium panel warranty for IPS panels
3) Free shipping, no need to haggle, no need to park, no need to risk getting into traffic accident
4) Excellent pricing on top of 1-3
5) 0% installment payment for citibank/maybank credit card holders
6) Crazy price if you know friends working in Dell

I was building a cheap rig for my aunt and after browsing through lowyat's pricing, as well as the tradezone, Dell's offer was still the best.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 14 2011, 01:24 PM)
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2) No dead pixel premium panel warranty for IPS panels
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Stuck pixel my dear friend, dead pixel require up to 6 to be able to claim, but if you have one stuck pixel and 5 dead pixel then you're eligible.
But BeastX does gives a tip before to claim as stuck pixel.
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any recommendation on which IPS panel to use. It seem like Dell is preferable. any difference between the 24' & 27' Ultrasharp monitor? I meant not the price.

What is the meaning -Color gamut 82% (CIE1976) on 24' compare to -Color gamut 110% (CIE1976) on 27'.....

I want a monitor to be able present the colors correct for a photo and translate that to a printer!

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If you are into photography,bigger monitor is better & if you are into IPS monitor, you just made the perfect choice. For color, you might want to calibrate your monitor to suit your need.
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If you are into photography,bigger monitor is better & if you are into IPS monitor, you just made the perfect choice. For color, you might want to calibrate your monitor to suit your need.
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any recommendation on which IPS panel to use. It seem like Dell is preferable. any difference between the 24' & 27' Ultrasharp monitor? I meant not the price.

What is the meaning -Color gamut 82% (CIE1976) on 24' compare to -Color gamut 110% (CIE1976) on 27'.....

I want a monitor to be able present the colors correct for a photo and translate that to a printer!
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The U2410 and U2710 are factory calibrated. If you prefer the cheaper U2412M, or would like to recalibrate the colours from time to time, you will need to buy a colour calibrator to maintain colour accuracy.
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Walau eh...

Now only I see the Dell U2710 price.... shocking.gif shocking.gif

He! He! He! So much diff one.

When Dell promo price out... how much lower can it get?


Man.... after searching... seems like I am getting deeper into the bunk hole!
Dell's U2410 is LCD right? Not LED?
And those U2412M and ST2420L are also IPS LED monitors... but seems like reviews didn't give them good grades...
So...

Let's compare money to money can buy situation.

U2412M and ST2420L price seems more relevant to those Samsung or LGs or Viewsonic.

So... in this case... which monitor is better?

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the last time i saw U2711, an additional discount of RM 500 was given.

yes U2412 is the cheapest but hv to get calibrator worth around RM 400. but also notice difference in the term Color gamut 82% vs 110%

I think bigger the better more view in editing photos!
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QUOTE(timothyy @ Sep 14 2011, 04:18 PM)
Walau eh...

Now only I see the Dell U2710 price....  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

He! He! He! So much diff one.

When Dell promo price out... how much lower can it get?
Man.... after searching... seems like I am getting deeper into the bunk hole!
Dell's U2410 is LCD right? Not LED?
And those U2412M and ST2420L are also IPS LED monitors... but seems like reviews didn't give them good grades...
So...

Let's compare money to money can buy situation.

U2412M and ST2420L price seems more relevant to those Samsung or LGs or Viewsonic.

So... in this case... which monitor is better?
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What do you need from your planned monitor? Serious photo editing that require accurate colors? Gaming/Movie?
How much do you expect from your next purchase? Less than RM1,000? RM600?
Do you care about after-sales-service? You prefer someone come to your house or you carry-in to service center?

To makes thing clear:
1. LED and LCD is 2 different thing (did I just answered this 999 times already?)
2. U2412M is IPS while ST2420L is TN.
3. U2412M and ST2420L is definitely cheaper than competitive, WHY? Cause I say so... *ahem* cause it's Dell service that you pay for, free delivery to door step, free labour service (depends on package) and door-2-door (no parking fees, no fuel fees, no waste of energy to carry your monitor to service centre).

Please do scroll down a bit at the product page to have a look at the technical specs and understand them, it's easy to just highlight the words, copy and google them for more information.
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Ops... Sorry... I overlooked on the TN for ST2420L.

I know LED and LCD diff... I also know LED very slim. Ha! Ha! In term of outlook.
But in term of performance... I am not sure.
To answer your question (thanks...).
I am going to use it for all rounder. Some games, some movies and surely some photo editing.
I have an iMac 24" now. I also have a old AMD Antlon 939 3200+ running with a Dell 19" LCD. Can't remember the model but it is not the Wide type.

But Anyway... I am building a new rig so planning to get a new monitor to accompany it.
Expected to fork out below RM1k for the monitor but if can go around the RM600 mark, I'd be glad too.
After sales service... hmm... touch wood... I don't mind visit once or twice to solve problem but if gonna be like in and out many times... then surely...
So... that is about it.

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I want to ask more about samsung dead pixel policy. It looks like you can only ask for warranty if the samsung LCD contains more than 7 dead pixels, but some people say you can actually ask the shop that you buy from to do 1 to 1 exchange within 7 days. Does this 1 to 1 exchange really work? I'm talking about when the LCD that I buy has about 1-2 dead pixel and ask for replacement.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 14 2011, 01:24 PM)

6) Crazy price if you know friends working in Dell

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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Sep 14 2011, 06:09 PM)
I want to ask more about samsung dead pixel policy. It looks like you can only ask for warranty if the samsung LCD contains more than 7 dead pixels, but some people say you can actually ask the shop that you buy from to do 1 to 1 exchange within 7 days. Does this 1 to 1 exchange really work? I'm talking about when the LCD that I buy has about 1-2 dead pixel and ask for replacement.
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QUOTE(timothyy @ Sep 14 2011, 05:32 PM)
Ops... Sorry... I overlooked on the TN for ST2420L.

I know LED and LCD diff... I also know LED very slim. Ha! Ha! In term of outlook.
But in term of performance... I am not sure.
To answer your question (thanks...).
I am going to use it for all rounder. Some games, some movies and surely some photo editing.
I have an iMac 24" now. I also have a old AMD Antlon 939 3200+ running with a Dell 19" LCD. Can't remember the model but it is not the Wide type.

But Anyway... I am building a new rig so planning to get a new monitor to accompany it.
Expected to fork out below RM1k for the monitor but if can go around the RM600 mark, I'd be glad too.
After sales service... hmm... touch wood... I don't mind visit once or twice to solve problem but if gonna be like in and out many times... then surely...
So... that is about it.
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It seems like you still getting it wrong.
LED and LCD are totally different technologies and we are not comparing that.
Instead, we are talking abt LED backlighting and CCFL backlighting. The light source for the LCD monitor.
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 14 2011, 07:52 AM)
It seems like you still getting it wrong.
LED and LCD are totally different technologies and we are not comparing that.
Instead, we are talking abt LED backlighting and CCFL backlighting. The light source for the LCD monitor.
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It's surprisingly how many people fall for this. ZOMGWTFBBQ@!#!@#!@#!@ LED > LCD.

I was once at Bestbuy Canada and I wanted to buy the top end LG LCD and this salesman was saying that I should get the LED version, I asked him why and he said it's better. I asked him how is it better and he couldn't answer me. I told him, "guy, it's not better." Most of the "LED" out there are just LCD with LED backlight and they have their share of issues. Edge-lit LEDs are known to have WORSE backlight evenness compared to CCFL LCD.

Even with a FULL ARRAY LED display, the display usually suffers black crush and light smearing.

LED backlight only has these advantages:

1) Lower power consumption (when is this even an issue in Malaysia?)
2) Thinner design

Period.

If anybody was given a choice between a CCFL IPS and an LED TN, and the person goes home with the LED TN, I'd seriously have to LMAO.

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Reading thru this I fell like writing an article about the difference in LCD tech. But I'm not going to, instead this website sums up all that I wanted to say
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/speccontent.htm

@alamak
this is why I was abit sad that when I ordered and paid for a U2311H CCFL backlight but instead I received a U2314HM led backlight. but I think I'm fine now.
u also forgot to add LED backlight panels do not contain mercury compare to CCFL or CCFL panel burn out slightly faster or LED backlit can do instant on (if that matters)

@back to topic
Not all LED backlit are bad but the most LED backlit monitor are using the edge backlight with white LED (W-LED) which is what alamak is talking about.
As there are also professional level monitor that utilise LED backlighting but those are usually Red Green Blue LED (RGB LED) and those also have their pros and cons, mainly cost
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Which would be better to connect my laptop to a U2311H

Display port to Display port

OR HDMI to DVI?

I'm also looking at price as a factor also lol. So roughly how much for each?

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You can try the VGA cable first if your laptop has the port. If there are no problems, the VGA cable will deliver equally to DVI or DP for 1080p.
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if u r talking abt U2311H, DVI and VGA cable are provide by the monitor. So technically, DVI should be superior over VGA due its pure digital end to end connection btw ur gpu and monitor vs VGA's transmission of analogue signal which maybe more vulnerable to EM interference. In pratice, it depends. I would say VGA are ok if they are short. So try what ever fit best for u.

DP to DP cable and HDMI to DVI should technically provide the same quality for u since u r only using it at 1080p res and those 2 are digital output. So just pick which ever suits ur budget
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agree with u guys! this talk of LED and LCD, are all marketing n promo talk. One should understand the primary purpose of the monitor i.e. game, photo editing or movie than choose the best display for it own use.

For me will be photo editing, just hv to wait for dell to give special pricing on the 27'


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QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 15 2011, 12:57 AM)
agree with u guys! this talk of LED and LCD, are all marketing n promo talk. One should understand the primary purpose of the monitor i.e. game, photo editing or movie than choose the best display for it own use.

For me will be photo editing, just hv to wait for dell to give special pricing on the 27'
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wow.. 27' (feet), that's huge, where can I find it at Dell? tongue.gif
Anyway, this LCD and LED talk will have no ends unless the marketing changes its tactic and educate those n**b sales person the right way, and will finally to the end-consumer, some of my friends still asking me (after few times and already bought one) about LED vs LCD... my gosh doh.gif
WLED backlight technology still far from perfect, which is why some IPS fan or enthusiast still stick with CCFL, and high-end IPS panel still using CCFL, but RGB-LED will probably take the lead, and with cost getting lower, we might see RGB-LED mainstream on high-end IPS panel in maybe 5 years to come? flex.gif
Until then we shall train our eyes to the WLED, or use colorimeter to correct it, less Blue/Green to compensate the blue-ish colour. High-end IPS will stay with its super-weight champion for a while. whistling.gif
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LED backlight only has these advantages:

1) Lower power consumption (when is this even an issue in Malaysia?)
2) Thinner design

Period.
3) Longer Life-Span @ more stable light.. not turning yellowish when aged.
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Good thing I'm using LED, now planning to get IPS LED monitor near the end of this year, who know Dell got Christmas promotion that time.
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You can try the VGA cable first if your laptop has the port. If there are no problems, the VGA cable will deliver equally to DVI or DP for 1080p.
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Absolutely no freaking way that VGA would deliver equal quality to DP/DVI. DVI and DP are digital signals and always deliver much sharper and crispier image. Try it and look at the fonts. I'd never use VGA cable, use digital whenever possible. As for DP vs DVI vs HDMI, those would deliver exact quality.
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Absolutely no freaking way that VGA would deliver equal quality to DP/DVI. DVI and DP are digital signals and always deliver much sharper and crispier image. Try it and look at the fonts. I'd never use VGA cable, use digital whenever possible. As for DP vs DVI vs HDMI, those would deliver exact quality.
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then by this weekend i should get the dvi-hdmi converter in order to use dvi cable cry.gif
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have a u2312hm, i want to utilize dvi, but my computer only has hdmi port remaining. is this( http://www.lelong.com.my/high-quality-hdmi...7-01-Sale-I.htm ) what i need to get the job done?

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have a u2312hm, i want to utilize dvi, but my computer only has hdmi port remaining. is this( http://www.lelong.com.my/high-quality-hdmi...7-01-Sale-I.htm ) what i need to get the job done?
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That's correct.
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Absolutely no freaking way that VGA would deliver equal quality to DP/DVI. DVI and DP are digital signals and always deliver much sharper and crispier image. Try it and look at the fonts. I'd never use VGA cable, use digital whenever possible. As for DP vs DVI vs HDMI, those would deliver exact quality.
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Testing with a U2410 (DVI) and a U2412M (VGA), with the displays duplicated, the fonts look just as crisp, sharp and unmoving to me. I have no difficulty reading from either monitors for hours on end.

Please teach me on how to detect and identify VGA problems. notworthy.gif
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Well iirc, the difference between VGA and DVI start becoming apparent at higher resolutions. DVI transfers signals in digital while VGA does so in analog. As a result, data loss is reduced when using DVI. But as far as lower resolution goes, the difference wont be visible to the naked eye. Also, from what I gather VGA seem to only be able to handle resolutions up to 2048x1536 on most monitors while DVI can go much higher but then again that might be due to certain monitor limitations.
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i tot is better to compare the picture quality and colour in HD movies/videos etc..


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Testing with a U2410 (DVI) and a U2412M (VGA), with the displays duplicated, the fonts look just as crisp, sharp and unmoving to me. I have no difficulty reading from either monitors for hours on end.

Please teach me on how to detect and identify VGA problems.  notworthy.gif
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I cannot speak for you as to why you don't/can't see a difference in your setup/situation. However, it is widely known that digital connection creates a sharper and crispier image, especially true with longer run cables. My BenQ FP241W looks like garbage with VGA connection even with sharpness fully cranked up. The details and clarity of DVI/HDMI was so apparent that every one I've shown the comparison to would not say otherwise.

I could explain why would one want stick to analog connection over digital in an audio interface but when it comes to visual interface, 99% of the time digital is better than VGA.

Quality aside, you can forget about watching HDCP materials on VGA (not to confuse with HD files). When it comes to bandwidth, VGA cannot power my U3011.

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Sharpness? I think that is likely to be an artificial image sharpener algorithm, which isn't intended to correct noisy cable problems and why it didn't improved your experience. Our premium UltraSharps doesn't appear to have such a 'feature'.
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I think you are missing my point on the sharpness part. My U3011 has sharpness control over digital interface. While my 2007FPs don't.
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I for one can say at 1080p res and a short 1 meter VGA cable. The pciture quality is fine with I compare side by side btw my second monitor with DVI.

The key factor here is length of cable, build quality of cable and maybe how noisy ur environment (as in electromagnetic interference if u can measure it?).

It also depends on the quality of the analogue/digital conversion of each monitor. Some have better sharpening algorithms for VGA than others.

So what I trying to say is, with D-Sub(VGA, DVI-A) you may encounter degradation of the signal from multiple factors while digital transmission(DVI-D, HDMI, DP) eliminate the flaws in analogue transmission have
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hello mates, i am intending to set two 23" screens(1920x1080) together, with a total resolution of 3840x1080. does this mean i need a graphic card that can support that amount of resolution in the first place?
i apologize if this is really a basic knowledge thing, as i am really a newbie in these kind of things.
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does ur GC has 2 output ports? if so, what do u intend to use the 2 monitors for? also, mind telling us what is ur GC?
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does ur GC has 2 output ports? if so, what do u intend to use the 2 monitors for? also, mind telling us what is ur GC?
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my gc is no where near recent i think, its an asus gts250 1gb. yes it has, it has 1vga, dvi and hdmi.
well i do 3d modelling/animation, illustration and some photography, so yea. but not games tho.

p.s : yes, totally wrong card for 3d render, thanks to the shop and my ignorance at that time to leave it to them.
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You should be able to connect one to DVI, and another to HDMI.

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You should be able to connect one to DVI, and another to HDMI.
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yea, initially i thought i should go with the vga, but my pal told me not to go with vga as the performance of the screen will go down, so i will go with the hdmi.
however, i am still not clear on what needs to be done once i get my things hooked up.
like softwares and stuff
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Once everything is hooked up, you should be able to enable extended desktop in Nvidia's control panel. Simple as that biggrin.gif

With ATI cards, you can power more than 3 monitors with one card. However, I'm not too sure with Nvidia as I haven't used one for a while.

You *may* not be able to use DVI & HDMI at the same time and may need to resort to using DVI + VGA, or HDMI + VGA. This is especially true with certain motherboard's IGP as they tie the digital output together and only one connection can be used at one time.
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I think you are missing my point on the sharpness part. My U3011 has sharpness control over digital interface. While my 2007FPs don't.
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I didn't know that. Why does the U3011 have sharpness for the digital interfaces and not the analog interface?
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Once everything is hooked up, you should be able to enable extended desktop in Nvidia's control panel. Simple as that biggrin.gif

With ATI cards, you can power more than 3 monitors with one card. However, I'm not too sure with Nvidia as I haven't used one for a while.

You *may* not be able to use DVI & HDMI at the same time and may need to resort to using DVI + VGA, or HDMI + VGA. This is especially true with certain motherboard's IGP as they tie the digital output together and only one connection can be used at one time.
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thats cool, nice and simple.

thanks for the heads up, i did some searching around after reading your post, and apparently, nvidia cards can only support 2 screens at once even tho 3 ports were given, either "dvi + vga", "vga + hdmi" , "hdmi + dvi".
hopefully it would be the same with my case, fingers crossed. smile.gif
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QUOTE(justin0379 @ Sep 15 2011, 06:54 PM)
thats cool, nice and simple.

thanks for the heads up, i did some searching around after reading your post, and apparently, nvidia cards can only support 2 screens at once even tho 3 ports were given, either "dvi + vga", "vga + hdmi" , "hdmi + dvi".
hopefully it would be the same with my case, fingers crossed. smile.gif
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nVidia cards can only support up to 2 monitor becuz each gpu core can only output 2 clocks.
unless u r using a multi gpu GC like gtx590 or multicard setup.
this is true with AMD cards but DP is self clock so it doesn't use the gpu clock
hence why AMD GC needs to use active DP on the 3rd monitor
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Old story for some - HP unveils 8 new LCD monitors with half of it using IPS panel:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/14/hp-goes...our-ips-panels/
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 15 2011, 02:33 PM)
I for one can say at 1080p res and a short 1 meter VGA cable. The pciture quality is fine with I compare side by side btw my second monitor with DVI.

The key factor here is length of cable, build quality of cable and maybe how noisy ur environment (as in electromagnetic interference if u can measure it?).

It also depends on the quality of the analogue/digital conversion of each monitor. Some have better sharpening algorithms for VGA than others.

So what I trying to say is, with D-Sub(VGA, DVI-A) you may encounter degradation of the signal from multiple factors while digital transmission(DVI-D, HDMI, DP) eliminate the flaws in analogue transmission have
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From my experience,VGA sometimes look just as fine as DVI but at other times look like shit.From what i can see,when i connect a VGA cable from a laptop to a U2311H,the image produced is blurry and auto adjustment can't fix it.On the other hand,when i connect a VGA cable from a desktop with iGPU/dGPU the the image produced is as good as DVI,there's no difference at all.Does this mean laptops have more EMI than desktops? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Racerx @ Sep 16 2011, 02:16 AM)
From my experience,VGA sometimes look just as fine as DVI but at other times look like shit.From what i can see,when i connect a VGA cable from a laptop to a U2311H,the image produced is blurry and auto adjustment can't fix it.On the other hand,when i connect a VGA cable from a desktop with iGPU/dGPU the the image produced is as good as DVI,there's no difference at all.Does this mean laptops have more EMI than desktops? hmm.gif
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No, i think for u case, that EMI is not the cause for the blurry image but I believe ur lappy has a poorly make signal converter. becuz some manufacturers might skimp abit on the signal converters
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 15 2011, 01:58 PM)
I cannot speak for you as to why you don't/can't see a difference in your setup/situation. However, it is widely known that digital connection creates a sharper and crispier image, especially true with longer run cables. My BenQ FP241W looks like garbage with VGA connection even with sharpness fully cranked up. The details and clarity of DVI/HDMI was so apparent that every one I've shown the comparison to would not say otherwise.

I could explain why would one want stick to analog connection over digital in an audio interface but when it comes to visual interface, 99% of the time digital is better than VGA.

Quality aside, you can forget about watching HDCP materials on VGA (not to confuse with HD files). When it comes to bandwidth, VGA cannot power my U3011.
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The reason why your benq monitor looks like garbage when using vga, because the monitor is using inferior ADC(Analog to Digital) Chip, usually the DAC side from nvidia/amd should be really good,not sure intel whistling.gif . I can assure that i cant see any different in picture quality between dvi and vga from my u2311h, since i can see no difference i just left the dvi for ps3/xbox360. i think maybe my sight is not good doh.gif

whatever it is, dvi/hdmi/displayport/thunderbolt should be more ideal for connecting to lcd, since there is no conversion between analog and digital signal, and vga/component are only limited to 1080p/60 doh.gif

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5750,5770,5850,5870,5970 are all capable of powering 3 displays, the third display must connect through the DisplayPort via Display port or a Passive VGA or Active DVI converter

6750, 6770, 6850, 6870, 6870x2, 6950,6970, 6990 can all output up to 6 displays, the first two may be connected via dvi or hdmi but the third and forth displays must connect through the DisplayPort via Display port or a Passive VGA or Active DVI converter. 5 and 6 are only available when the display ports are daisy chained or split.

Crossfire - a note about crossfire, currently AMD drivers will only allow you to use the outputs of the primary card in a crossfired set. The 24-display 5870 eyefinity flight sim was a linux box designed to utilise the 24 outputs as a single array, it is beyond the average user’s capabilities.


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time to calibrate that monitor bro it will look even better trust me rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Sep 16 2011, 07:39 AM)
time to calibrate that monitor bro it will look even better trust me rclxms.gif
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still have to use the expensive calibrating tool to adjust cry.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2011, 07:37 AM)
My U2311H just arrived!!

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still have to use the expensive calibrating tool to adjust  cry.gif
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Spyder3Express is only RM3xx, well if you buy the IPS panel for its color might as well calibrate to ensure it is more accurate.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 16 2011, 09:18 AM)
Spyder3Express is only RM3xx, well if you buy the IPS panel for its color might as well calibrate to ensure it is more accurate.
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U got buy ? where do you buy ?
because im not professional printing agent also... even i buy also cant earn money unless i go provide color calibrating service laugh.gif
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U got buy ? where do you buy ?
because im not professional printing agent also... even i buy also cant earn money  unless i go provide color calibrating service  laugh.gif
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Yes, I'm using Spyder3Express. That time no plans to use multiple monitor, regret I didn't go for Pro or Elite sad.gif but found a workaround for multiple monitor ;-).

I bought from Yamiya.com.my
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 16 2011, 09:25 AM)
Yes, I'm using Spyder3Express. That time no plans to use multiple monitor, regret I didn't go for Pro or Elite sad.gif but found a workaround for multiple monitor ;-).

I bought from Yamiya.com.my
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sell me ur express and u go buy pro/elite brows.gif
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sell me ur express and u go buy pro/elite  brows.gif
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Eh? I thought it was taken off Dell's website?
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Eh? I thought it was taken off Dell's website?
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He never stated he bought from dell website. That is sedond hand used three months unit. I with him bought from a nice seller. smile.gif
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Funny thing happened when I was trying out some games on my U2311H, I noticed that I'm getting 30fps@1080p@high settings on Unreal Tournament 3 whereas I'm only getting around 20fps on my laptop 15.6" using the same settings sweat.gif

For 720p, I'm getting like 40fps+ on my U2311H whereas my laptop get about 30fps+

So, Pixel per Inch(PPI) affects gaming performance?
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Funny thing happened when I was trying out some games on my U2311H, I noticed that I'm getting 30fps@1080p@high settings on Unreal Tournament 3 whereas I'm only getting around 20fps on my laptop 15.6" using the same settings sweat.gif

For 720p, I'm getting like 40fps+ on my U2311H whereas my laptop get about 30fps+

So, Pixel per Inch(PPI) affects gaming performance?
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No... the only thing affecting is how many pixels your GC has to display.

You can use a 21.5" 1920x1080 and a 24" 1920x1080, the performance is exactly the same.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2011, 08:32 PM)
Funny thing happened when I was trying out some games on my U2311H, I noticed that I'm getting 30fps@1080p@high settings on Unreal Tournament 3 whereas I'm only getting around 20fps on my laptop 15.6" using the same settings sweat.gif

For 720p, I'm getting like 40fps+ on my U2311H whereas my laptop get about 30fps+

So, Pixel per Inch(PPI) affects gaming performance?
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hmm it should yield the same FPS since both screens are running at the same resolution hmm.gif
pls share some game benchmark like Dirt3, Metro2033 etc with screenshot at the same resolution & settings.
i don't trust ur eyes tongue.gif

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2011, 08:32 PM)
Funny thing happened when I was trying out some games on my U2311H, I noticed that I'm getting 30fps@1080p@high settings on Unreal Tournament 3 whereas I'm only getting around 20fps on my laptop 15.6" using the same settings sweat.gif

For 720p, I'm getting like 40fps+ on my U2311H whereas my laptop get about 30fps+

So, Pixel per Inch(PPI) affects gaming performance?
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just wondering where did u get those numbers?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 16 2011, 08:39 PM)
No... the only thing affecting is how many pixels your GC has to display.

You can use a 21.5" 1920x1080 and a 24" 1920x1080, the performance is exactly the same.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 16 2011, 09:17 PM)
hmm it should yield the same FPS since both screens are running at the same resolution  hmm.gif
pls share some game benchmark like Dirt3, Metro2033 etc with screenshot at the same resolution & settings.
i don't trust ur eyes  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 16 2011, 10:11 PM)
just wondering where did u get those numbers?
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Could be my eyes playing tricks on me. Tried it out again just now.. doesn't seem to have any difference doh.gif Hahaha my bad blush.gif

Btw, I'm using EVGA Precision =)
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2011, 08:32 PM)
Funny thing happened when I was trying out some games on my U2311H, I noticed that I'm getting 30fps@1080p@high settings on Unreal Tournament 3 whereas I'm only getting around 20fps on my laptop 15.6" using the same settings sweat.gif

For 720p, I'm getting like 40fps+ on my U2311H whereas my laptop get about 30fps+

So, Pixel per Inch(PPI) affects gaming performance?
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from the first time u get ur monitor so much problem until now whistling.gif
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hey guys, don't know if this is the right thread to ask for recommendation. recently my faithful crt has kaput and now would like to get a lcd monitor around 18.5" - 20" for the price RM300+/-. Is there any specific model that you all can recommend ? Thank you.
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Most of the people here are Dell punya kaki la so be prepared to be recommended at least with it as a preferred choice.

Yours truly do have in possession of a single flawless Dell UltraSharp U3011 30"W Monitor with PremierColour which I reckon is the 3rd most crucial component in my rig after the processor and graphic card however it's the most expensive in terms of monetary value.

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 17 2011, 11:04 AM)
Most of the people here are Dell punya kaki la so be prepared to be recommended at least with it as a preferred choice.

Yours truly do have in possession of a single flawless Dell UltraSharp U3011 30"W Monitor with PremierColour which I reckon is the 3rd most important component in my rig after the processor and graphic card however it's the most expensive in terms of monetary value.
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i don't believe there is 18-20inch monitor at priced RM300-+ from dell
there's one
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DELL E1912H 18.5 - inch HD Monitor with LED RM370

Try to search for Acer or AOC monitor
should be around RM290-RM330 or so

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i don't believe there is 18-20inch monitor at priced RM300-+ from dell
there's one
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DELL E1912H 18.5 - inch HD Monitor with LED RM370

Try to search for Acer or AOC monitor
should be around RM290-RM330 or so
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Dell's UltraSharps are easy to recommend, but their cheaper stuff gets no love from me.
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how about this ? http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...1676&redirect=1
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 17 2011, 11:04 AM)
Most of the people here are Dell punya kaki la so be prepared to be recommended at least with it as a preferred choice.

Yours truly do have in possession of a single flawless Dell UltraSharp U3011 30"W Monitor with PremierColour which I reckon is the 3rd most crucial component in my rig after the processor and graphic card however it's the most expensive in terms of monetary value.
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although ppl here highly recommend dell but thats only valid for Dell's UltraSharp IPS line. other than that, you don't see much love for Dell's normal TN monitors.
I would recommend either LG or Samsung if u going for TN monitors since their produce their own panel and other company buy OEM from them
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
although ppl here highly recommend dell but thats only valid for Dell's UltraSharp IPS line. other than that, you don't see much love for Dell's normal TN monitors.
I would recommend either LG or Samsung if u going for TN monitors since their produce their own panel and other company buy OEM from them
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sorry to bump in here... but dont know where to post.. i wanted to use my LCD HDTV as my monitor via hdmi.. i though it's a plug and play thing but although i was able to actually use it as my monitor for my notebook, i find the picture color and contrast is a bit different from the one on display on my notebook screen..
any suggestions and comments on this.. can anyone show me the correct way so that i could have an exact match of picture quality on both of my monitors.. thanks!!!
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QUOTE(eyedeal @ Sep 17 2011, 02:30 PM)
sorry to bump in here... but dont know where to post.. i wanted to use my LCD HDTV as my monitor via hdmi.. i though it's a plug and play thing but although i was able to actually use it as my monitor for my notebook, i find the picture color and contrast is a bit different from the one on display on my notebook screen..
any suggestions and comments on this.. can anyone show me the correct way so that i could have an exact match of picture quality on both of my monitors.. thanks!!!
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To do that you should adjust your HDTV's screen color and contrast via its menu.
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To do that you should adjust your HDTV's screen color and contrast via its menu.
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Wonder colorimeter works on those LCD TV, I haven heard/saw any on this, mostly on monitors. notworthy.gif
Anyway, low-end IPS already become really affordable enough for everyone (remember those days 1200p TN cost a boom), which is why I still recommend low-end IPS to anyone looking for 1080p either for Movies or Casual FPS and normal gaming. Other than that, a 120Hz monitor much suitable for hardcore FPS gaming is definitely on the list for those who can afford.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 17 2011, 02:53 PM)
Wonder colorimeter works on those LCD TV, I haven heard/saw any on this, mostly on monitors. notworthy.gif
Anyway, low-end IPS already become really affordable enough for everyone (remember those days 1200p TN cost a boom), which is why I still recommend low-end IPS to anyone looking for 1080p either for Movies or Casual FPS and normal gaming. Other than that, a 120Hz monitor much suitable for hardcore FPS gaming is definitely on the list for those who can afford.
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His situation doesn't seem to require 100% accurate colors, so asking him to calibrate the HDTV by his eyes would be sufficient biggrin.gif. He's also not asking for help to calibrate his TV to get the best colors but to get a similar match to his laptop's screen's setting so eye-based calibration would do.
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
although ppl here highly recommend dell but thats only valid for Dell's UltraSharp IPS line. other than that, you don't see much love for Dell's normal TN monitors.
I would recommend either LG or Samsung if u going for TN monitors since their produce their own panel and other company buy OEM from them
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+1, this response does answer Confession query and in addition, a matte widescreen LCD display would serve to be the better purchase so buy wisely so I hope (am not sure) that either one of those brands has it and can fit into your budget.

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 17 2011, 05:23 PM)
+1, this response does answer Confession query and in addition, a matte widescreen LCD display would serve to be the better purchase so buy wisely.
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you mean the finish of the product ? matte rather than glossy ? may i know why ?
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you mean the finish of the product ? matte rather than glossy ? may i know why ?
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Matte actually produce much better viewing pleasure than glossy, glossy screen can reflect any ambient light and that's not good for dark environment movies and gaming in well lit room, you'll see your face right at the monitor just like mirror. And you'll notice there's always some light shines from sides (especially bottom side), that's side lit backlight and very obvious on dark screen, unfortunately most laptops come with glossy screen. yawn.gif
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you mean the finish of the product ? matte rather than glossy ? may i know why ?
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Glossy finish display screens are more susceptible to glare, reflecting light from windows and light bulbs which may possibly cause eye discomfort or strain quicker as compared to matte finish products while in a powered off state, fingerprints and smudges are more readily noticeable however there are certainly a few advantages to be had in using it as well.

...fast posted by the one and only wildwestgoh.

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QUOTE(eyedeal @ Sep 17 2011, 02:30 PM)
sorry to bump in here... but dont know where to post.. i wanted to use my LCD HDTV as my monitor via hdmi.. i though it's a plug and play thing but although i was able to actually use it as my monitor for my notebook, i find the picture color and contrast is a bit different from the one on display on my notebook screen..
any suggestions and comments on this.. can anyone show me the correct way so that i could have an exact match of picture quality on both of my monitors.. thanks!!!
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computer use 0-255 gradient while tv use 16-235 range
look around for that setting in your movie player software

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computer use 0-255 gradient while tv use 16-235 range
look around for that setting in your movie player software
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can u xplain further? i dont really get it..
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QUICK INTEREST CHECK!

I was wondering if anybody here is interested in the Ergotron MX Deskmount:
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The ultimate monitor arm of all time thumbup.gif I personally need 3 of them. If there's enough interest, I could organize a bulk and have a bunch sent back by freight. If not, I'll have my friend bring 3 home for me end of the year. Dell Malaysia is selling them for RM900 each. Retail pricing in north america is about RM400 each.

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got my Dell IPS U2311H second hand unit today.

but how to calibrate this monitor? the color looks quite warm
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Sep 18 2011, 07:27 PM)
got my Dell IPS U2311H second hand unit today.

but how to calibrate this monitor? the color looks quite warm
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Have you tried going through the preset modes? smile.gif Standard has the best balance for me in my opinion. If you want to calibrate the monitor you can do so by using your eyes, but for accurate results you will want a colorimeter. You can access the calibration menu of the U2311H by pressing the first button on the right twice, and by selecting the Custom ( RGB ) option.
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Good luck calibrating by eye biggrin.gif
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I want buy monitor.
I own a GTX 590. For now my budget is about RM 600-700 (firm)
What monitor should I get.

I saw U2312H (RM 649 at dell website) and another one from CEX LG IPS236V (RM 625)

Which one I should go? Or anyone got better option?
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Any forumer use this LCD 19" Fujitsu LM1930W monitor b4? How is the performance of this monitor?
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Both Dell and LG should be fine. Dell's screen are mostly LG IPS panels
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Sep 18 2011, 07:27 PM)
got my Dell IPS U2311H second hand unit today.

but how to calibrate this monitor? the color looks quite warm
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FUH ! Set to preset modes ??

That is TOO BLUEISH !

Come on just use custom RGB tweak until the white becomes real white color instead of tend to brown/blue
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I finally got the LG IPS236V-PN but haven't tried it out because the seller sealed it in a box.

I wanted to get the Dell's U2312HM but this LG was sold to me at RM 450 for a month old usage. 3 years warranty. biggrin.gif

The price was difficult to resist. Can't wait to try out tonight. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 19 2011, 12:50 PM)
Both Dell and LG should be fine. Dell's screen are mostly LG IPS panels
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HP also using LG panel.
White can be seen as white, unlike Samsung, AOC etc...
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 19 2011, 01:35 PM)
I finally got the LG IPS236V-PN but haven't tried it out because the seller sealed it in a box.

I wanted to get the Dell's U2312HM but this LG was sold to me at RM 450 for a month old usage. 3 years warranty. biggrin.gif

The price was difficult to resist. Can't wait to try out tonight. rclxms.gif
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Nice, definitely hard to resist at such cheap price.

My 2311h Rm500 only and its perfect condition tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 15 2011, 05:43 PM)
Once everything is hooked up, you should be able to enable extended desktop in Nvidia's control panel. Simple as that biggrin.gif

With ATI cards, you can power more than 3 monitors with one card. However, I'm not too sure with Nvidia as I haven't used one for a while.

You *may* not be able to use DVI & HDMI at the same time and may need to resort to using DVI + VGA, or HDMI + VGA. This is especially true with certain motherboard's IGP as they tie the digital output together and only one connection can be used at one time.
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He! He! After reading this... I kinda syiok sendiri.
Wanna ask...
If I put up 2 monitors...
When I play game, a fullscreen game, can the other monitor used as doing other thing like surfing and etc?
Coz, then, my old monitor can be utilised. He! He! He!...

For such setup, will it drain the CPU usage? I mean if I built a new rig, i5 2500k, SSD, 8GB ram, GTX 560 Ti GC...
Playing some online game, will it make the whole system too slow or someting? Thanks.
And by the way, the LG IPS236V-PN, can it be wall mounted or I need the orignal stand no matter how...
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QUOTE(timothyy @ Sep 19 2011, 03:56 PM)
He! He! After reading this... I kinda syiok sendiri.
Wanna ask...
If I put up 2 monitors...
When I play game, a fullscreen game, can the other monitor used as doing other thing like surfing and etc?
Coz, then, my old monitor can be utilised. He! He! He!...

For such setup, will it drain the CPU usage? I mean if I built a new rig, i5 2500k, SSD, 8GB ram, GTX 560 Ti GC...
Playing some online game, will it make the whole system too slow or someting? Thanks.
And by the way, the LG IPS236V-PN, can it be wall mounted or I need the orignal stand no matter how...
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The IPS236V-PN supports VESA mounting, which means you can mount it to a wall. smile.gif

Anyway, you can use your extra monitor to display other things on your desktop and et cetera. However, from my experience if you want to access the other screen you will have to alt-tab out of the game first if it's in full screen mode, which is pretty much pointless since it minimizes the game, unless you run your game(s) under windowed mode.

Performance wise it shouldn't be affected significantly unless the game is extended or stretched across to the other screen.
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Ohhhhhh... doh.gif
So, when I alt+tab, that game will be minimise instead?
Was hoping that at 1 monitor, I can surf, MSN, LYN...
Another one the game is still running.
So, let's say an online game, I am farming, I can let it run while I surf on the other one.

So, what you are saying now is... if I ALT+TAB, that game will be minimised eventhough I am working on another monitor but I cant see the game running?
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Ohhhhhh... doh.gif
So, when I alt+tab, that game will be minimise instead?
Was hoping that at 1 monitor, I can surf, MSN, LYN...
Another one the game is still running.
So, let's say an online game, I am farming, I can let it run while I surf on the other one.

So, what you are saying now is... if I ALT+TAB, that game will be minimised eventhough I am working on another monitor but I cant see the game running?
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It will be like that unless you set your game to run in windowed mode. smile.gif
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Well even in windowed mode you still need to ALT+TAB out of it and the game will still be stalled. However, you would still see the game on screen instead of it minimized to the taskbar.

If you want full independent control, you will still need a second pc hooked up a it. A laptop/netbook would do. You can switch the second monitor back to the main pc when you are done.
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Judging from his posts he just want to be able to see the game he's running while browsing through the net and et cetera from the other, so windowed mode for his game(s) will do fine. biggrin.gif And well, games don't generally "stall" unless you pause them via the menu or something, or are you referring to the stall where he won't be able to do anything on the game other than watch?

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Ya... that is what I want.
But running on Window mode is a bit "haiz"....
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 19 2011, 01:35 PM)
I finally got the LG IPS236V-PN but haven't tried it out because the seller sealed it in a box.

I wanted to get the Dell's U2312HM but this LG was sold to me at RM 450 for a month old usage. 3 years warranty. biggrin.gif

The price was difficult to resist. Can't wait to try out tonight. rclxms.gif
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Please update me with the review.
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QUOTE(narong @ Sep 20 2011, 12:09 AM)
Please update me with the review.
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What sort of review you are looking for? unsure.gif

I'm just a casual user, not a gamer. blink.gif
Bought this for my entertainment and photos editing. Those are my hobbies. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 19 2011, 01:19 PM)
FUH ! Set to preset modes ??

That is TOO BLUEISH !

Come on just use custom RGB tweak until the white becomes real white color instead of tend to brown/blue
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Mind sharing your custom RGB settings? tongue.gif might be i using too long of cool preset, tried set with custom RGB, but feel too warm for my eyes. rclxub.gif
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same la.... when i use the default sometimes my eye might get teary~

and i kinda like the blueish look compare with other preset tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 20 2011, 01:10 AM)
What sort of review you are looking for? unsure.gif

I'm just a casual user, not a gamer. blink.gif
Bought this for my entertainment and photos editing. Those are my hobbies. laugh.gif
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Is it nice? Clear? Awesome ? Look better than U2312HM?


Added on September 20, 2011, 2:21 amhttp://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2039806/+0#entry45445870
New monitor from EVOV. 27" IPS monitor.

Nice?

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QUOTE(narong @ Sep 20 2011, 01:26 AM)
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Added on September 20, 2011, 2:21 amhttp://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2039806/+0#entry45445870
New monitor from EVOV. 27" IPS monitor.

Nice?
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Very plain and huge bezel width.
I would expect the price is higher than Dell offering, but with WLED, wonder if it really can pulls out those specifications stated.
Need some reviews... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(renishi @ Sep 20 2011, 01:23 AM)
same la.... when i use the default sometimes my eye might get teary~

and i kinda like the blueish look compare with other preset tongue.gif
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ya lo, even my Acer S201HL also set "cool" preset.
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Cool setting is around 5500k. The universally accepted temperature is 6500k. A blueish white is more fatiguing to they eyes than warmer white.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 20 2011, 03:11 PM)
Cool setting is around 5500k. The universally accepted temperature is 6500k. A blueish white is more fatiguing to they eyes than warmer white.
This I would say varies from individuals to individuals... too subjective...
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 20 2011, 03:11 PM)
Cool setting is around 5500k. The universally accepted temperature is 6500k. A blueish white is more fatiguing to they eyes than warmer white.
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I prefer to use cool white light for my kitchen and backyard while warm white light especially for bedroom and living/dining hall. There is a product that produces LED light which I've installed just slightly away and behind the LCD monitor. The verdict of its performance and durability, is still pending because I've just been using it since a few days ago but cost me a whooping RM70 but I just can't resist to give it a try. It's called OSRAM Parathom Par16 50 adv (low energy consumption, long-lasting duration and also, not HOT to the touch of my hands at all.)

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 20 2011, 03:11 PM)
Cool setting is around 5500k. The universally accepted temperature is 6500k. A blueish white is more fatiguing to they eyes than warmer white.
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but..... the other preset kinda suck and i am tooooo lazy to set a custom, so for now i will stay cool 1st. Maybe later on i will search abt on hw to tweak with the rgb and etc

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 19 2011, 02:35 PM)
I finally got the LG IPS236V-PN but haven't tried it out because the seller sealed it in a box.

I wanted to get the Dell's U2312HM but this LG was sold to me at RM 450 for a month old usage. 3 years warranty. biggrin.gif

The price was difficult to resist. Can't wait to try out tonight. rclxms.gif
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So how is the LG IPS. Is it that good!

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QUOTE(renishi @ Sep 20 2011, 09:42 PM)
but..... the other preset kinda suck and i am tooooo lazy to set a custom, so for now i will stay cool 1st. Maybe later on i will search abt on hw to tweak with the rgb and etc
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Cold color should be at 9500K, 5500K is much warmer, correct me cause I been set on many monitors, even on the Adobe Gamma software 5500K definitely warmer than 6500K, 3000K is almost pure yellow already I think.
To adjust normal CCFL to match WLED cold color, tune brightness to max and tune down the contrast till almost matching level, that's how I set an old LCD monitor Philips 170S trying to match my laptop's WLED cold color, still can't match properly, might be due to worn out CCFL backlight.
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umm, seeking for advice from all monitor pros here...
planning to get myself a 21" something monitor, any recommendation?
budget 400~500
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Has anybody actually tried to buy the Dell U2312HM from the small & medium businesses section, rather than the home & home office section? Since for some reason it's cheaper.

Small & Med businesses:
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...oc=T14U2312HMMY

Home & Home office:
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...oc=T14U2312HMMY

I'm just really scared that if I buy from the former link, they will charge me with fraud or something laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hikarireika @ Sep 23 2011, 06:11 PM)
Has anybody actually tried to buy the Dell U2312HM from the small & medium businesses section, rather than the home & home office section? Since for some reason it's cheaper.

Small & Med businesses:
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...oc=T14U2312HMMY

Home & Home office:
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...oc=T14U2312HMMY

I'm just really scared that if I buy from the former link, they will charge me with fraud or something  laugh.gif
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Since they placed it on their website, why not? ;-)
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Sep 22 2011, 05:19 PM)
umm, seeking for advice from all monitor pros here...
planning to get myself a 21" something monitor, any recommendation?
budget 400~500
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your budget is able to squeeze a 23inch monitor in, try Acer S231HL RM490 from Jayacom.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 23 2011, 06:12 PM)
Since they placed it on their website, why not? ;-)
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I got it at the 649 price smile.gif
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Hi, wanna ask all LCD monitor sifus here.
Can someone tell me where can i find EIZO monitors? Which shop got sell in KL area?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 23 2011, 06:12 PM)
Since they placed it on their website, why not? ;-)
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last time they alreadly corrected it at both site, and now the price different is back
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Sep 23 2011, 09:37 PM)
Hi, wanna ask all LCD monitor sifus here.
Can someone tell me where can i find EIZO monitors? Which shop got sell in KL area?
Import from Japan.... extra expensive now... or even from other countries ....HK/China/Taiwan should have ...I don't believe there are any official distributors in Mal.
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hi guys jst wan to share some pict on my newly arrived asus proArt PA246
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QUOTE(Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA @ Sep 24 2011, 01:11 PM)
hi guys jst wan to share some pict on my newly arrived asus proArt PA246
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...that's absolutely gorgeous and ravishing if I may say so myself.

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QUOTE(Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA @ Sep 24 2011, 01:11 PM)
hi guys jst wan to share some pict on my newly arrived asus proArt PA246
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looks quite redish blush.gif
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Sep 24 2011, 01:45 PM)
looks quite redish  blush.gif
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It's a feminine monitor mah, what do you expect mang!? and I actually thought it was more towards pinkish la.

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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Sep 24 2011, 01:45 PM)
looks quite redish  blush.gif
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still not yet calibrating the lcd due to jst start my new sem at uni, i'll try calibrate it 1st then ony will post up the pict once i hv time... btw really im impressed wif the display n function of the monitor itself like quick fit
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QUOTE(Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA @ Sep 24 2011, 02:04 PM)
still not yet calibrating the lcd due to jst start my new sem at uni, i'll try calibrate it 1st then ony will post up the pict once i hv time... btw really im impressed wif the display n function of the monitor itself like quick fit
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I'm sure it must be definitely drop-dead beautiful when it's finally all ready in shipshape so do keep us posted of its wonderful progress as we await in earnest anticipation.

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planning to buy LG 23" E2341v ... any comment on this particular LCD? tongue.gif
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Hey guys, need your opinion to choose which 18'5" offers by Dell here:

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...2105&redirect=1

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...2113&redirect=1
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Hi guys,

planning to buy LG 23" E2341v ... any comment on this particular LCD?  tongue.gif
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well, it using tn panel and slim, if you consider of picture quality, you have better choice (dell u2312hm(recommended,successor of u2311h) and lg ips236v)

check this list, and you know why people satisfy with this monitor
http://www.testfreaks.com/monitors/

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guys look at here.
my dell u2311h bought a week ago

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you wouldn't happen to be using VGA would you?
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^ right now i am using VGA cable,because that problem happen only when I use DVI cable
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Sep 27 2011, 01:08 PM)
^ right now i am using VGA cable,because that problem happen only when I use DVI cable
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not to answer ur question, ... why u choose bulkier U2311H instead of newer slimmer U2312HM?
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prefer CCFL backlight over the overrated LED.and of course it is cheaper.
i dont think U2312HM slimmer than U2311H. the dimension look same but U2312HM has curvy edges and stand.
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Sep 27 2011, 03:02 PM)
prefer CCFL backlight over the overrated LED.and of course it is cheaper.
i dont think U2312HM slimmer than U2311H. the dimension look same but U2312HM has curvy edges and stand.
Slightly slimmer... but definitely lighter.
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Sep 27 2011, 03:02 PM)
prefer CCFL backlight over the overrated LED.and of course it is cheaper.
i dont think U2312HM slimmer than U2311H. the dimension look same but U2312HM has curvy edges and stand.
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true, not all people prefer modern design, slim and sleek design especially the one with the glossy body with full of fingerprint and easily scratch. With traditional/industrial design, people will focus on the screen more because nothing special to see other than screen area. Plus wled edge led is only good for produce brighter image and starting time but will reduce small value of colour gamut compared to enhanced ccfl on u2311h or expensive wide gamut ccfl. The best thing of led backlighting is rgb lighting and self dimming led backlighting which is not likely to be available on budget consumer level product

So do you ask dell for replacement, i believe they will replace your monitor with U2312HM if you request for new one sweat.gif
its not right for digital media like dvi can produce image defect on digital-based screen

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 28 2011, 09:17 AM)
true, not all people prefer modern design, slim and sleek design especially the one with the glossy body with full of fingerprint and easily scratch. With traditional/industrial design, people will focus on the screen more because nothing special to see other than screen area. Plus wled edge led is only good for produce brighter image and starting time but will reduce small value of colour gamut compared to enhanced ccfl on u2311h or expensive wide gamut ccfl. The best thing of led backlighting is rgb lighting and self dimming led backlighting which is not likely to be available on budget consumer level product

So do you ask dell for replacement, i believe they will replace your monitor with U2312HM if you request for new one  sweat.gif
its not right for digital media like dvi can produce image defect on digital-based screen
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i would say check the DVI cable first
my DVI cable received from purchasing AOC 18''5 RazorBlade LED also give something like this but slight blue colour
open up
find old HD3XXXX DVI cable.plug it in and problem solve
but depends~~not to say i saw everything yet in problem and technical difficulties
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 28 2011, 09:17 AM)
true, not all people prefer modern design, slim and sleek design especially the one with the glossy body with full of fingerprint and easily scratch. With traditional/industrial design, people will focus on the screen more because nothing special to see other than screen area. Plus wled edge led is only good for produce brighter image and starting time but will reduce small value of colour gamut compared to enhanced ccfl on u2311h or expensive wide gamut ccfl. The best thing of led backlighting is rgb lighting and self dimming led backlighting which is not likely to be available on budget consumer level product

So do you ask dell for replacement, i believe they will replace your monitor with U2312HM if you request for new one  sweat.gif
its not right for digital media like dvi can produce image defect on digital-based screen
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yes. when I ordered my 2nd u2311h, dell has sent me u2312hm cuz they no longer have new stock of it.
u2312hm is definitely lighter than u2311h. and noticeable weight that u can feel it with tilting or swinging the monitor.
In the end, I prefer the more professional look of the U2311H. but i do have 1 nagging problem with the u2311h when comparing to the u2312hm is that the CCFL takes a few minutes to warm up to get to the proper colour levels. becuz of that, the 2 monitors will have 2 different color level at the first few minutes when power on
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Just replaced my old yellowish Samsung with Dell U2412M.....loving it thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Sep 28 2011, 10:08 AM)
i would say check the DVI cable first
my DVI cable received from purchasing AOC 18''5 RazorBlade LED also give something like this but slight blue colour
open up
find old HD3XXXX DVI cable.plug it in and problem solve
but depends~~not to say i saw everything yet in problem and technical difficulties
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dvi is mostly digital, its either there is image or not, unless the display is supporting dvi-a(analog) and the signal that was sent are analog signal, guess he/she need to check which signal does he get whether it is dvi-a or dvi-d. Im not sure how to get dvi-a signal since usually my u2311h only show dvi-d type of media

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dvi is mostly digital, its either there is image or not, unless the display is supporting dvi-a(analog) and the signal that was sent are analog signal, guess he/she need to check which signal does he get whether it is dvi-a or dvi-d. Im not sure how to get dvi-a signal since usually my u2311h only show dvi-d type of media
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problem solved,the culprit is the motherboard dvi port.

yesterday Dell technician came to my place he brought along the refurbished set in case my monitor faulty.
plugged the refurbished monitor..same result,change dvi cable oso same result.after that, the monitor connected to my friend comp and actually the monitor is working well.
went to urgent shopping yesterday and got myself a cheapo second hand ati radeon hd3870 while waiting HD7XXX tongue.gif

now i can enjoy brilliant display from my monitor back rclxm9.gif

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finally u2312hm review, and it is highly recommended with little improvement from u2311h. u2311hm would be the best 23" monitor to recommend.

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On the outside 23” U2312HM looks like a 24” U2412M. The new softer look with rounded edges and great ergonomic functions is re-used and the 23” monitor boasts the same DVI, DisplayPort and D-SUB (VGA) inputs. But one thing is different; size. Even though U2312HM is just one inch smaller than its bigger brother, the real difference is more significant. Because of the 16:9 format – and therefore lower resolution – U2312HM is not as close to U2412M in size, as one might suspect.

On the inside, U2312HM is not much different from the U2412M either. Besides the lower resolution, U2312HM has pretty good picture quality for a monitor in this price range. The Standard picture preset is fairly accurate, viewing angles are wide, response time is fast (and faster than on U2412M), we experienced no clouding and color reproduction in general is good. U2312HM is a value-for-money screen, and even though it offers only few improvements compared to the predecessor U2311H, the new U2312HM is a great monitor for amateurs working with graphic and photography.

Dell U2312HM’s low price also puts it in a favorable position compared to the competition. If you seek better black depth, VA based monitors are still preferable. A low-price alternative could be Eizo’s new FS2332 (test coming soon) but until then I think the U2312HM deserves the same recommendation that we gave U2412M, simply because it offers almost the same picture characteristics at a lower price (and smaller size).

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...l&id=1317112577
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Had anyone notice the promo for U2412M?

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...centPopular,rk:

RM100 discount, end at 29th of September, but when I applied it, it state that it ends at 6th of October.
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I own a IPS236 from lg. I like it smile.gif Cons : I cannot adjust the monitor right , left, btm, and up.
Or maybe I don't know how to ?
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I own a IPS236 from lg. I like it smile.gif Cons : I cannot adjust the monitor right , left, btm, and up.
Or maybe I don't know how to ?
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turn the monitor to left or right side with the bottom plate turn as well lah tongue.gif
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what is the best bargin now for led/lcd 24' ?
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 30 2011, 01:00 AM)
turn the monitor to left or right side with the bottom plate turn as well lah tongue.gif
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Lol... Atas bawah ?
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QUOTE(mr11 @ Sep 30 2011, 01:24 AM)
what is the best bargin now for led/lcd 24' ?
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dell u2412m
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...l&id=1312883832
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hey guys need advise.

which monitor is better? and price pls?

Samsung S23A350H
Samsung BX2450
BenQ E2220HD
LG E2360V-PN
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QUOTE(shahzad86 @ Sep 28 2011, 03:32 PM)
Just replaced my old yellowish Samsung with Dell U2412M.....loving it  thumbup.gif
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mine also looks yellowish... can't wait to upgrade to U2312HM this november... rclxms.gif still collect money gradually
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Guys, can me help list 3-4 IPS monitor (22-24") that's good nowdays?
(budget around 1k+-)

thx. smile.gif
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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Oct 1 2011, 07:55 PM)
Guys, can me help list 3-4 IPS monitor (22-24") that's good nowdays?
(budget around 1k+-)

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If 16:9

Dell U2312HM @RM6XX

If 16:10

Dell U2412HM @RM8XX

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/sna.asp...rasharp_monitor

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this one good or not?

http://www.lg.com/my/it-products/monitors/LG-led-IPS236V.jsp
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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Oct 1 2011, 08:22 PM)
Ayam using it.

Cons : Cannot adjust screen to potrait... The angle are not wide as U2312HM
PRO: IPS, Power Saving/ clear / rich colour

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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Oct 1 2011, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(narong @ Oct 1 2011, 09:25 PM)
Ayam using it.

Cons : Cannot adjust screen to potrait... The angle are not wide as U2312HM
PRO: IPS, Power Saving/ clear / rich colour
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also add that, it has more aesthetic than the dell ips. so its aesthetic vs functionality
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I suppose it would be good for the living room, where visitors can look at its design, be impressed and not actually need to use it.

One thing I love about Dell's UltraSharps are that they have a lot of USB ports. It is so much more convenient to plug the keyboard, mouse and other USB devices into the monitor than into the desktop.
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Agreed. Been plugging keyboard and mouse to the monitors
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 30 2011, 07:30 AM)
no hdmi port ?
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QUOTE(mr11 @ Oct 2 2011, 12:39 PM)
no hdmi port ?
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no, as you can use hdmi to dvi cable/converter by the way. Dell is supporter of displayport and they include displayport when alot of similar priced lcd didnt have displayport
i have ps3/xbox360 and u2311h provide image just fine via hdmi to dvi cable

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Just bought myself: AOC e2351fh @ LYP for RM530 (nego a bit with ALLHypermart)

Official site: http://www.aocmonitorap.com/hongkong_eng/monitor_293.php

This LED has 'audio out' if you plug in HDMI, so I plugged in the HDMI to my XBOX 360 and the DVI to the PC. The LED auto switch the active signal between DVI/HDMI.

The 'audio out' connects straight to the amplifier, now I can play the XBOX 360 with quality sound. icon_rolleyes.gif
Great price for me personally for an LED that can be used for PC gaming and XBOX 360. nod.gif

The DCR finally is not just for demo like those the LCD lineup, this LED's DCR functions like a dream, it controls the contrast so quick you don't even see it like in generic LCD with this particular feature.

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# Contrast Ratio (typical): 20000000:1 (DCR)
# Response Time (typical): 2ms
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# Scan Frequency: H: 30K~83KHz V: 55~75Hz
# Pixel Frequency: 144MHz
# Recommended Resolution: 1920×1080@60Hz
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# HDCP Compatible: Yes
# Input Signal: Analog RGB, DVI-D and HDMI
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16:9 or 16:10 better:

Primarily used to gaming and watching American series...
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QUOTE(kanabalize @ Oct 3 2011, 04:42 PM)
16:9 or 16:10 better:

Primarily used to gaming and watching American series...
16:10..... more pixels is always better... refering to 1920x1080 vs 1980x1200... Assuming 16:9 content, additional resolution an be used for controller
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Dell U2312HM owner, is that true according to review the response time/input lag is only about 0.6ms?

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm

The input lag of the U2312HM was incredibly low, and in fact the lowest we have ever seen from a TFT display. There was practically no delay at all with most measurements showing 0ms lag compared with the CRT. There was an occasional lag of up to 10ms but over many measurements we had an average lag of only 0.6ms.

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if i were to choose between samsung P2770H and S27A550H, which one should i go to? any suggestions?
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i asked as a gamer & mostly movie watching since i got no time any more for it should i spend on a calibration device?
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QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Oct 3 2011, 09:33 PM)
if i were to choose between samsung P2770H and S27A550H, which one should i go to? any suggestions?
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why just don't get U2412M ?

27" with 1920x1080 yield very low PPI already sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jagged @ Oct 4 2011, 03:21 AM)
i asked as a gamer & mostly movie watching since i got no time any more for it should i spend on a calibration device?
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No, no need to waste $ on calibration when you only games and movies, only those who using color sensitive application such as photoshop needs the accurate colors, and to get great colors you need H-IPS to get the most out of it.
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QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Oct 3 2011, 09:33 PM)
if i were to choose between samsung P2770H and S27A550H, which one should i go to? any suggestions?
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Take a look at this video, it looks pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbIOCMUPmP8
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QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Oct 3 2011, 06:26 PM)
Dell U2312HM owner, is that true according to review the response time/input lag is only about 0.6ms?

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm

The input lag of the U2312HM was incredibly low, and in fact the lowest we have ever seen from a TFT display. There was practically no delay at all with most measurements showing 0ms lag compared with the CRT. There was an occasional lag of up to 10ms but over many measurements we had an average lag of only 0.6ms.

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I dont understand...so its good news for user or bad news? blush.gif sorry noob here

Actually I need opinion and review (pros and cons based on ur xperience) regarding Dell U2312HM...guys help me pls...ur cooperation is highly appreciated blush.gif


Added on October 4, 2011, 2:23 pmGuys..wanna ask some stupid question here blush.gif My cpu age is 7-8 years...can I use LCD monitors?

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QUOTE(MBL @ Oct 4 2011, 01:39 PM)


Added on October 4, 2011, 2:23 pmGuys..wanna ask some stupid question here  blush.gif  My cpu age is 7-8 years...can I use LCD monitors?
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Most LCD monitor today still have VGA input so I'd say yes.
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i having trouble with my LED screen
i want to use HDMI cable conecting my notebook to my BenQ 24Inch
but..when i connect the cable..then after selecting monitor..the LED screen show only 'no signal detected'-something like tht lah..forgot edy the word

I can connect my notebook to LCD projector at my office with no problem at all.

someone can help me? biggrin.gif


Added on October 4, 2011, 4:46 pmFYI..
rear LED got VGA, DVI and HDMI + audio jack.
do i need to configure something on my LED?

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QUOTE(newuserex @ Oct 4 2011, 03:45 PM)
Most LCD monitor today still have VGA input so I'd say yes.
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what about LED monitor?still using VGA and power cord or not?
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QUOTE(MBL @ Oct 4 2011, 05:23 PM)
what about LED monitor?still using VGA and power cord or not?
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The LG IPS236V LED monitor I'm using has VGA but I'm using HDMI. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 4 2011, 05:26 PM)
The LG IPS236V LED monitor I'm using has VGA but I'm using HDMI. smile.gif
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i am using LG IPS236V paired with nvidia card...i found most of my photos are higher saturation then it should..how should i calibrate it..without any hardware colorimeter...

and good software??..or guide??...
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so is there any users of P2770H or U2412M? how do you guys find it?
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 4 2011, 07:01 PM)
i am using LG IPS236V paired with nvidia card...i found most of my photos are higher saturation then it should..how should i calibrate it..without any hardware colorimeter...

and good software??..or guide??...
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Since the LG monitor is an IPS one, then it should be somewhat accurate. Thus, your pictures are memang saturated, just that you might not have realised it when using your old monitor during editing

QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Oct 4 2011, 07:27 PM)
so is there any users of P2770H or U2412M? how do you guys find it?
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I think you should go for a U2412M because it's using an IPS panel which delivers better colour accuracy and colour reproduction.

Take the P2770H if you really need to bigger screen size
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the 2412M is very good esp at the price that i brought it. anyways guys, got a question which is quite important. is it possible to bring the monitor only as cabin luggage? just the monitor inside a beg. possible? is it allowed?
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LG IPS236V VS U2311 VS U2312HM
Which would you guys choose..
BTW, I need 2 for multi monitor setup
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the current price for 2414m is 899 now? i thought there's promo =/
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 4 2011, 07:34 PM)
Since the LG monitor is an IPS one, then it should be somewhat accurate. Thus, your pictures are memang saturated, just that you might not have realised it when using your old monitor during editing
I think you should go for a U2412M because it's using an IPS panel which delivers better colour accuracy and colour reproduction.

Take the P2770H if you really need to bigger screen size
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my latest photo all not saturated...i saw it too saturated on my monitor then go lower the saturation...to suit my monitor..but others saw my photo as under-saturated... rclxub.gif
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I don't understand what is meant by
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price includes RM 215.00 instant cash redemption
from dell website.

Can anyone explain to me? blush.gif
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QUOTE(MBL @ Oct 5 2011, 02:05 AM)
I don't understand what is meant by  from dell website.

Can anyone explain to me?  blush.gif
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The price stated is after discounted rm215 already.

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I order a monitor frm dell last thursday, the estimated delivery date in my invoice is today, but dell suddenly changed the date to next week when i checked the status online last night, but it was already arrived at the local port, i dun know why it takes so long!
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QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Oct 4 2011, 08:13 PM)
the current price for 2414m is 899 now? i thought there's promo =/
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there hv RM100 voucher discount
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QUOTE(MBL @ Oct 4 2011, 01:39 PM)
I dont understand...so its good news for user or bad news?  blush.gif  sorry noob here

Actually I need opinion and review (pros and cons based on ur xperience) regarding Dell U2312HM...guys help me pls...ur cooperation is highly appreciated  blush.gif


Added on October 4, 2011, 2:23 pmGuys..wanna ask some stupid question here  blush.gif  My cpu age is 7-8 years...can I use LCD monitors?
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It is good news that the input lag is low. Hopefully it isn't some kind of fluke.

QUOTE(Shunz @ Oct 4 2011, 08:10 PM)
LG IPS236V VS U2311 VS U2312HM
Which would you guys choose..
BTW, I need 2 for multi monitor setup
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U2311HM or U2311H over IPS236V. The Dell has 4 USB 2.0 ports on the monitor. Very convenient if your rig is not as easily accessible or you could use the extra USB ports. They can power external HDDs.
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JREnterprise selling 830 with 5 years warranty..should get from him ah? or direct from dell better, but only 3 years warranty
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QUOTE(everling @ Oct 5 2011, 04:27 PM)
It is good news that the input lag is low. Hopefully it isn't some kind of fluke.
U2311HM or U2311H over IPS236V. The Dell has 4 USB 2.0 ports on the monitor. Very convenient if your rig is not as easily accessible or you could use the extra USB ports. They can power external HDDs.
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whats the short coming of ips236v apart from its stand which not adjustable?
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just realize p2770h has 5ms and u2412m has 8ms response time +reverse ghosting, does it make a huge difference? i do play games and watch movies

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any good 19 inch to 21inch lcd or led monitor to recommend?
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I currently use the U2312HM at work and U2412M at home. My eyes prefer the 16:10 aspect ratio from the U2412M. The 16:9 ratio looks a little short and wide.
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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Oct 6 2011, 01:33 AM)
whats the short coming of ips236v apart from its stand which not adjustable?
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Other than that and the USB ports I had mentioned? The ips236v has an ugly bezel that is not suitable for multiple monitor gaming. For multiple monitor gaming, the last thing you want is for the bezel to stand out. Plain and forgettable are key, unless you can find monitors with practically no bezel or no bezel (!), which would trump everything else.

QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Oct 6 2011, 12:20 PM)
just realize p2770h has 5ms and u2412m has 8ms response time +reverse ghosting, does it make a huge difference? i do play games and watch movies
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No, it doesn't. I game and spend extra to acquire 1080p movies, and I find 8ms displays (U2311H, U2410, U2412M) satisfactory.
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you do not find any obvious ghosting?
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no recommendations for 19inch or 20inch monitor? I wanna grab 1 soon.. no monitor to use ><
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no recommendations for 19inch or 20inch monitor? I wanna grab 1 soon.. no monitor to use ><
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Budget?
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QUOTE(everling @ Oct 6 2011, 05:22 PM)
Other than that and the USB ports I had mentioned? The ips236v has an ugly bezel that is not suitable for multiple monitor gaming. For multiple monitor gaming, the last thing you want is for the bezel to stand out. Plain and forgettable are key, unless you can find monitors with practically no bezel or no bezel (!), which would trump everything else.
No, it doesn't. I game and spend extra to acquire 1080p movies, and I find 8ms displays (U2311H, U2410, U2412M) satisfactory.
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how bout in term of screen quality,color reproduction and price,i don't use multiple monitor so i don't care bout the bezel design
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LG EMBRACES IPS PANEL TECHNOLOGY FOR A NEW STANDARD IN MONITOR PERFORMANCE

http://www.lgblog.co.uk/2011/09/ips5/

SAMSUNG S27A850D PLS MONITOR REVIEW

http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-s27a..._Monitor_review
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QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Oct 6 2011, 06:03 PM)
you do not find any obvious ghosting?
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No. I haven't seen it for myself and I doubt I ever will. And there are a lot of fellow forumers who bought them and haven't noticed any ghosting. I actually don't recall if there was a noticeable ghosting report.

QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 6 2011, 08:06 PM)
no recommendations for 19inch or 20inch monitor? I wanna grab 1 soon.. no monitor to use ><
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Considering your expensive gaming rig, you'll be doing it a serious disservice by skimping on the monitor. My friend's old gaming rig with lousy specs has at least a 23" U2311H. And my own lousier desktop with an AMD Phenom II X3 710 and a HD 5670 has a U2410 and a U2412M.

I suggest you man up and get yourself a sweet U2412M, RM799 (if the RM100 coupon is still available) and then enjoy gaming on your powerful machine with a sweet monitor.

QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Oct 6 2011, 09:15 PM)
how bout in term of screen quality,color reproduction and price,i don't use multiple monitor so i don't care bout the bezel design
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I'm sorry, I have no idea. Unfortunately TFTCentral and AnandTech does not have any data on the IPS236V. You could try googling for any articles that compares its calibration report with the other displays.

On pricing, it is RM629 at Viewnet.

QUOTE(laicyrules @ Oct 6 2011, 09:38 PM)
LG EMBRACES IPS PANEL TECHNOLOGY FOR A NEW STANDARD IN MONITOR PERFORMANCE

http://www.lgblog.co.uk/2011/09/ips5/
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I wonder if the reporting was correctly worded or not, as they were producing IPS panels for a long time already.

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I wonder if the reporting was correctly worded or not, as they were producing IPS panels for a long time already.
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this is ips5 biggrin.gif

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Well, on rereading it, that article is still poorly written, with random ideas from all over the place. For one, it talks about LG producing a new IPS series. For another, it talks about the gains they get by replacing TN with IPS. Why bring up TN if this IPS5 is a successor to IPS1 and IPS6? Wait a minute, IPS6? Why are they introducing IPS5 and calling it new?

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Well, on rereading it, that article is still poorly written, with random ideas from all over the place. For one, it talks about LG producing a new IPS series. For another, it talks about the gains they get by replacing TN with IPS. Why bring up TN if this IPS5 is a successor to IPS1 and IPS6? Wait a minute, IPS6? Why are they introducing IPS5 and calling it new?
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This new series comes as the successor of the previous IPS1 and IPS6 display lineup
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Maybe 400-450 like tat.. Just need best quality smile.gif


Added on October 7, 2011, 12:47 amAnd i prefer with hdmi plug one..

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I know all the sifus here recommend Dell IPS monitor, but I just wanna ask what is the best 23" TN monitors that below RM500?

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Received Dell U2312HM monitor today, but very disappointed with the Dell QC, the stand was badly scratched cry.gif , can i requested for changed?


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^^^^^^ omgg who u order from?
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Received my Dell U2412M 1 week and 1 day after ordering!
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QUOTE(llk @ Oct 7 2011, 08:20 PM)
Received Dell U2312HM monitor today, but very disappointed with the Dell QC, the stand was badly scratched  cry.gif , can i requested for changed?
Looks bad. That must be a careless mistake got away from QC inspection.

Dell is know for selling refurbed stuffs according to my close friends. Once u rejected their goods it will become ARB set and they will resell to their staffs at dirt cheap price abd this staffs & later u can see it at our garage sales lol

I think u should call up Dell asap.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 8 2011, 08:33 AM)
Looks bad. That must be a careless mistake got away from QC inspection.

Dell is know for selling refurbed stuffs according to my close friends. Once u rejected their goods it will become ARB set and they will resell to their staffs at dirt cheap price abd this staffs & later u can see it at our garage sales lol

I think u should call up Dell asap.
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http://h20386.www2.hp.com/MalaysiaStore/im...lit-ips-monitor

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QUOTE(laicyrules @ Oct 10 2011, 01:30 PM)
wow, 20" for 830? Not 1080p. thats a horrible deal when compared to the U2312HM.
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Anyone know where to get/buy ASUS PA246Q P-IPS Monitor?

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wow, 20" for 830? Not 1080p. thats a horrible deal when compared to the U2312HM.
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Guys. I'm thinking of ditching my >6 year old ( ohmy.gif ) 4:3 monitor and joining the HD standard crowd.
However, are there any incoming new improvements to the LCD-LED monitor field that I should wait out for (except 3D since I have no interest in halving frame rates)?
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Just want to ask, which LED monitor is the best with 2d to 3d mode? I thought of the Samsung SA950d series monitor. Do u guys have other in mind?
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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Oct 11 2011, 07:33 PM)
Guys. I'm thinking of ditching my >6 year old ( ohmy.gif ) 4:3 monitor and joining the HD standard crowd.
However, are there any incoming new improvements to the LCD-LED monitor field that I should wait out for (except 3D since I have no interest in halving frame rates)?
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what gpu you currently using?

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Er. Not really focusing on specific models or manufacturers. More on technologies coming on production line. Why, got difference?

GPU currently 5770, but might ratchet up to 6950 (no CF).


Added on October 12, 2011, 7:41 pmOh! I should probably add that I'm going for a single monitor setup, so have no need for IPS (and not having many people crowding to see the monitor, really).

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:29 PM)
Er. Not really focusing on specific models or manufacturers. More on technologies coming on production line. Why, got difference?

GPU currently 5770, but might ratchet up to 6950 (no CF).


Added on October 12, 2011, 7:41 pmOh! I should probably add that I'm going for a single monitor setup, so have no need for IPS (and not having many people crowding to see the monitor, really).
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IPS has its advantage and not just viewing angle, colour reproduction wise is way better than the limited TN, especially the grey area and to benefit from the viewing angle you'll see good colour balance through the screen even with a little tilt, especially when you move your head a little to the right or left, you'll see a little contrast/brightness shift from TN but not IPS, this is another advantage of the wide viewing angle, not just for "plenty of people" purpose.
Aside from that, Dell's unit provide full IPS premium functionality such as the "super" leg, of which you can turn your widescreen into portrait mode which enable you to read a whole page without scrolling and able to adjust the monitor height according to your comfort, and also the extra USB hub making life even much convenient, don't you think so? whistling.gif

Anyway, my explanation just for your information, which many of the Ultrasharp users would also seeing this advantage when they deciding on value monitors to choose from, and if you still finds it not up to your taste or you don't need all those advantage/functions then by all means there's plenty of monitor out there. Example would be LG, Samsung (which I won't really recommend unless no choices left), AOC (cheap, value), etc. All of them are pretty much the same, you just need to look at the size, price and the functionality, and decide.
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guys?
LG E2250T led
support 1080p or not?
looking at the website
the resolution is 1600x900
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QUOTE(diadokmai @ Oct 13 2011, 12:09 PM)
guys?
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support 1080p or not?
looking at the website
the resolution is 1600x900
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1080p refer to the height, and the resolution is 1920x1080, so the monitor that you looking at is not 1080p.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 13 2011, 09:15 AM)
IPS has its advantage and not just viewing angle, colour reproduction wise is way better than the limited TN, especially the grey area and to benefit from the viewing angle you'll see good colour balance through the screen even with a little tilt, especially when you move your head a little to the right or left, you'll see a little contrast/brightness shift from TN but not IPS, this is another advantage of the wide viewing angle, not just for "plenty of people" purpose.
Aside from that, Dell's unit provide full IPS premium functionality such as the "super" leg, of which you can turn your widescreen into portrait mode which enable you to read a whole page without scrolling and able to adjust the monitor height according to your comfort, and also the extra USB hub making life even much convenient, don't you think so? whistling.gif

Anyway, my explanation just for your information, which many of the Ultrasharp users would also seeing this advantage when they deciding on value monitors to choose from, and if you still finds it not up to your taste or you don't need all those advantage/functions then by all means there's plenty of monitor out there. Example would be LG, Samsung (which I won't really recommend unless no choices left), AOC (cheap, value), etc. All of them are pretty much the same, you just need to look at the size, price and the functionality, and decide.
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agree on this, IPS or above is a must for LCD. No regret since upgrade from 17" CRT to U2311H..hehe

and value for money also biggrin.gif
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how much does dell 27 inch IPS monitor sells for now?
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how much does dell 27 inch IPS monitor sells for now?
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