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post Apr 19 2011, 02:49 PM, updated 15y ago

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As can see the SS2 mall since it open begin of the year until now almost 1/2 a year already, the % taken up is so low, look like nobody willing to rent any of those vacant units. So many empty/vacant lots. The place looks like a failure.

nobody wants to rent and no renovation at all in any of the lots. another white elephant.

Alot of malls and office are vacant in alot of area not only ss2 mall. Many people buy but difficult to rent out even condo/houses for investment.

maybe a glut , what do u think?

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post Apr 19 2011, 02:52 PM

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more and more property are like this these days...
construction companies are rushing to build new ones to gain profit from the bubble...
some even goes as far as to lie about percentage of properties were already booked/purchased...

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post Apr 19 2011, 02:53 PM

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Supply > Demand. yawn.gif


Added on April 19, 2011, 2:55 pmI pray we don't end up like US. That is what got the world into recession.

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post Apr 19 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Dr.Drool @ Apr 19 2011, 02:53 PM)
Supply > Demand.  yawn.gif


Added on April 19, 2011, 2:55 pmI pray we don't end up like US. That is what got the world into recession.
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btw, where is this SS2 mall? blush.gif
this is a sincere question.
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QUOTE(godutch @ Apr 19 2011, 03:59 PM)
btw, where is this SS2 mall?  blush.gif
this is a sincere question.
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sincere answer... somewhere in SS2 lo.




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post Apr 19 2011, 03:03 PM

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ss2 mall is just next to ken 3 condo and ameera or five stones condo in ss2 pj
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QUOTE(Dr.Drool @ Apr 19 2011, 02:53 PM)
Supply > Demand.  yawn.gif


Added on April 19, 2011, 2:55 pmI pray we don't end up like US. That is what got the world into recession.
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In due time....in due time...
so save your money lor...
later price drop got RM30K also can buy condo... brows.gif
maybe apartment la...but still...tongue.gif...

anyway...name of mall?

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post Apr 19 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 19 2011, 03:00 PM)
sincere answer... somewhere in SS2 lo.
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 03:03 PM)
ss2 mall is just next to ken 3 condo and ameera or five stones condo in ss2 pj
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got it, thank you notworthy.gif

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post Apr 19 2011, 03:14 PM

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1. supply more than demand in that area
2. location is not so "wong" cause a bit further away from the main nearby colleges walking distance wise.
3. the accessibility and parking kinda sux there
4. got rumor stories for that location hehe
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 02:49 PM)
As can see the SS2 mall since it open begin of the year until now almost 1/2 a year already, the % taken up is so low, look like nobody willing to rent any of those vacant units. So many empty/vacant lots. The place looks like a failure.

nobody wants to rent and no renovation at all in any of the lots. another white elephant.

Alot of malls and office are vacant in alot of area not only ss2 mall. Many people buy but difficult to rent out even condo/houses for investment.

maybe a glut , what do u think?
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was puzzling to their failure too although i'd never been there myself.
when it was under construction, it looks set to be a big thing in this part of town. high income area among the old citizens of matured ss2 township. steady group of yuppies and college/university student alike.
so big question on reasons for its failure??
anybody got any ideas about it?


my personal take would be:
1. lack of promotion/adverts/events
2. maybe because of it's asking rentals? (no idea how much though)
3. no proper retail agent appointed?
4. too close to tropicana mall?


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post Apr 19 2011, 03:22 PM

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I get people asking me how on earth to get into that building - maybe thats one of the reasons, to the un-informed out of town pips, its having to get to a maze to go in, no map, no direction - no marketing effort. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ydingo @ Apr 19 2011, 03:22 PM)
I get people asking me how on earth to get into that building - maybe thats one of the reasons, to the un-informed out of town pips, its having to get to a maze to go in, no map, no direction - no marketing effort.  doh.gif
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i think the biggest failure was lack of adverts.
no spetacular launching even.
hoever the hype over the pre-opening was better with multiple full page ads in papers.
but comes the official and post opening, don't ever hear of them anymore.
initially i thought must be doing damn well since no need advert. seems like i was thinking the exact opposite. lol.

and for factor of demand more than supply, i think i disagree because ss2 citizens have been anticipating this kinda development for the longest of time. maybe the quality/built of the place was not up to their expectations. i reckon if a duplicate of giza was built instead, it will be equally if not more sucessful. maybe it's not too late to build a giza right in the square of ss2 (open car park currently). blush.gif
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post Apr 19 2011, 03:59 PM

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The funny thing for me was I only found out when I went to Kanna Curry restaurant, then I saw the SSTWO mall sign by that building. You're right about not advertising their place. People are not given proper info.
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Been there once during Chinese New Year. Not so impressive but it is hard for them to compete because the rental in this mall is quite steep. That I think is a bit set back for retailers to try to go in. Also, very little known of this mall. No cinemas also I belief
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no anchor tenant like a supermarket or cinema. i think the mall management should go and find some tenant that can "suck" visitors, i.e: karaoke, supermarket, department store....

currently i dun really interested to go there because it is so "dry" inside tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shyhhua @ Apr 19 2011, 04:21 PM)
no anchor tenant like a supermarket or cinema. i think the mall management should go and find some tenant that can "suck" visitors, i.e: karaoke, supermarket, department store....

currently i dun really interested to go there because it is so "dry" inside tongue.gif
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Yeah I agree. If got Songbird karaoke, I will definitely step in cause SS2 very hard to get parking
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post Apr 19 2011, 04:25 PM

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the other more relevant reasons are :

o the more accessible Tropicana Mall is just up the road, around the corner; and it is doing quite well
o perhaps this SStwo mall will take off once Ameera & 5stones occupancy starts to rise ..
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QUOTE(rocket_jet @ Apr 19 2011, 04:00 PM)
Been there once during Chinese New Year. Not so impressive but it is hard for them to compete because the rental in this mall is quite steep. That I think is a bit set back for retailers to try to go in. Also, very little known of this mall. No cinemas also I belief
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 02:49 PM)
As can see the SS2 mall since it open begin of the year until now almost 1/2 a year already, the % taken up is so low, look like nobody willing to rent any of those vacant units. So many empty/vacant lots. The place looks like a failure.

this one is just one in a series of ghost malls coming.

13 more new malls expected this year, enjoy - even if they are empty! biggrin.gif

For this year, 13 new malls are expected to be opened offering a total of 4.5 million sq ft of retail space, including two malls that are being refurbished and rebranded, Intermark (previously City Square) and Viva Mall (previously UE3 Mall).
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...54&sec=business
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i see UE3 a potential white elephant

City Square might still survive a little as there are a lot of offices nearby
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post Apr 19 2011, 04:36 PM

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the food outlet like old town coffee like want to close shop, no people as well as other food outlet. one word expensive. nothing inside the mall, majority vacant.

even franchise business also will close down eventually if the mall is going to like that.

have to sell at a high price in-order to cover rental & other hidden cost.

nobody dares to open business there maybe rental is steep. even at the moment no competition also dont dare to open

maybe should need at least a big hypermarket eg tesco, jusco, carefour to boost it else will be pubs or cinema (that wont be for sure bcos the mall close at 10pm daily)

very bad. indeed. just imagine like empty mall at all floors

ONLY good thing is FREE PARKING at the mall and enjoy the air condition in the mall. other than that nothing to see.

provide as well as an alternative road to pass from section 17 to ss2 in order to beat the jam small bridge b4 the ss2 traffic light in order to go to ss2 area

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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 04:36 PM)
the food outlet like old town coffee like want to close shop, no people as well as other food outlet. one word expensive. nothing inside the mall, majority vacant.

have to sell at a high price in-order to cover rental & other hidden cost.

nobody dares to open business there maybe rental is steep. even at the moment no competition also dont dare to open

maybe should need at least a big hypermarket eg tesco, jusco, carefour to boost it else will be pubs or cinema (that wont be for sure bcos the mall close at 10pm daily)

very bad. indeed. just imagine like empty mall at all floors
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Their 2nd floor rental rm 15.00 + service charge. Who dare to go in at this slow retail economic now? Yeah I do agree with you. Maybe they need newer ideas and new management team
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QUOTE(shyhhua @ Apr 19 2011, 04:21 PM)
no anchor tenant like a supermarket or cinema. i think the mall management should go and find some tenant that can "suck" visitors, i.e: karaoke, supermarket, department store....

currently i dun really interested to go there because it is so "dry" inside tongue.gif
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very good idea lah.
open plenty of massage parlour.
some arcade video stores.
some dvd stores.
and voila, back to life!
lol.

guys, some people mentioned about selling high price. is this place even for sale?
a good mall (Midvalley, Suria KLCC, 1 Utama, Sunway Pyramid) usually is owner controlled and is only leased out. a bad mall is one that sells their shops like what BTS did.

i thought Ameera VP long time ago?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 19 2011, 04:44 PM)
open plenty of massage parlour.
some arcade video stores.
some dvd stores.
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drop class liao lor like that bro.... sweat.gif
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Ameera VPed long time dy ...
but at this juncture, the best hope for sstwo mall is the nearby condos ..
so it can be like a neighbourhood mall, but to do that, you need a Giant/Tesco or even a Jaya Grocer/Village Grocer type of store to bring in traffic ..

I know people purposely go to Tropicana to watch movies because it is easiest to get tickets .. so there you go ... perhaps look at opening small screens to bring in crowd as well ... if not, what's the niche .. why would people go there ...
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UE3 .. I don't know, they have revamped it to some Home Improvement hypermart .. should be interesting .. I should visit it one of these days ...
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QUOTE(ebackbone @ Apr 19 2011, 03:14 PM)
1. supply more than demand in that area
2. location is not so "wong" cause a bit further away from the main nearby colleges walking distance wise.
3. the accessibility and parking kinda sux there
4. got rumor stories for that location hehe
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haha.. got rumor stories? I stayed just beside the mall last time when I studying wor. never see get anything also

I think the reason the SS2 mall is a failure is coz there's just too much mall around that area. and really not much ppl know about the SS2 mall even exist. lol.
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QUOTE(shanged @ Apr 19 2011, 04:56 PM)
Ameera VPed long time dy ...
but at this juncture, the best hope for sstwo mall is the nearby condos ..
so it can be like a neighbourhood mall, but to do that, you need a Giant/Tesco or even a Jaya Grocer/Village Grocer type of store to bring in traffic ..

I know people purposely go to Tropicana to watch movies because it is easiest to get tickets .. so there you go ... perhaps look at opening small screens to bring in crowd as well ... if not, what's the niche .. why would people go there ...
cool.gif

UE3 .. I don't know, they have revamped it to some Home Improvement hypermart .. should be interesting .. I should visit it one of these days ...
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i wonder what's attracting the crowds to Empire Shopping Centre? rclxub.gif
no cinemas. a slight upmarket grocery tenant (but higher price lah for groceries).

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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 19 2011, 03:14 PM)
was puzzling to their failure too although i'd never been there myself.
when it was under construction, it looks set to be a big thing in this part of town. high income area among the old citizens of matured ss2 township. steady group of yuppies and college/university student alike.
so big question on reasons for its failure??
anybody got any ideas about it?
my personal take would be:
1. lack of promotion/adverts/events
2. maybe because of it's asking rentals? (no idea how much though)
3. no proper retail agent appointed?
4. too close to tropicana mall?
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Main reason is too close to Tropicana Mall which opend much earlier and already pulled the established tenants. It does not make business sense to open another branch within 0.5 km hence SS2 Mall cannot attract any big names. Cause chain reaction - no big names, no traffic/ patrons, no tenants.

The mall is huge for a neighbourhood mall; mayb another reason it is so empty. Should open 1st phase then only another phase.
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Too many shooping mall. just see who can sustain only...
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QUOTE(ydingo @ Apr 19 2011, 04:45 PM)
drop class liao lor like that bro....  sweat.gif
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What sorts of massage parlour? I only know Carrefour in Sri Petaling has a lot of foot massage + back massage ( hanky panky) behind closed doors....lol biggrin.gif
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need some wellknown grocery tenant and cinema la, this is a must for succesful neighbourhood shopping complex....
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QUOTE(llobak @ Apr 19 2011, 05:03 PM)
haha.. got rumor stories? I stayed just beside the mall last time when I studying wor. never see get anything also

I think the reason the SS2 mall is a failure is coz there's just too much mall around that area. and really not much ppl know about the SS2 mall even exist. lol.
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'Neighbourhood malls' do not need much advertisment as they cater for mainly for the neighbourhood. U can betcha SS2 residence knows bout the mall
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For PJ people, we know how to navigate around from (BAT/SinJiewJitPo/LDPBomba/Sec17/Ex-白小 Primary school)

My personal opinion..is hard to get to the mall
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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 19 2011, 04:44 PM)
very good idea lah.
open plenty of massage parlour.
some arcade video stores.
some dvd stores.
and voila, back to life!
lol.

guys, some people mentioned about selling high price. is this place even for sale?
a good mall (Midvalley, Suria KLCC, 1 Utama, Sunway Pyramid) usually is owner controlled and is only leased out. a bad mall is one that sells their shops like what BTS did.

i thought Ameera VP long time ago?
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Pls. don't do that... it will kill the mall and chase away legit retailers. Soon attract more hanky panky business and smoking in the mall is allowed and then digital casinos doh.gif

I think SS2 mall is for rent only so don't think will fall prey to 'Endah parade/Summit/ Safari syndrom'


Added on April 19, 2011, 5:16 pm
QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 19 2011, 05:03 PM)
i wonder what's attracting the crowds to Empire Shopping Centre?  rclxub.gif
no cinemas. a slight upmarket grocery tenant (but higher price lah for groceries).
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Upmarket retailers & good restaurants - There is a catchment of affluent residence in USJ/ Subang & TTDI (shah alam)

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at first i thought there will be pub or bistro near the "al-fresco" area. icon_idea.gif but it is too near to the residential houses opposite the road. That is quite impossible for that kind of business opening there bcoz of noise pollution and long business hours. those residence will sure complaint until they close shop laugh.gif
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hope ss2 mall dont looks like atria shopping complex in damansara utama in future.

like want to close shop

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i recall when i first visit tropicana, i thought the mall ain't gonna make it. seems like it's doing okay now (but i never been back there).

i recall when i first visited amcorp mall, and i thought is this a mall? looks like a run down bunch of shops. with Pc repair, 2nd hand market specialy, etc.

i recall when i first visited atria and it was okay. a group of amenties catering to neighbourhood needs. and it was super cool to have parkson and kfc house within the area. disclaimer: that was more than 15 years ago during my 1st visit!

i think perception changes over time. ultimately it depends on the owner which direction he/she wishes to take. if they have the holding power, am sure things will work out better later on. but if hold too long, another atria/amcorp in the making lor.
i think there's potential there, but someone needs to put some effort into it.
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'Neighborhood malls'
Who will go? nearby residents.
Many residents? no.
They go everyday? no.

Conclusion: failed.

Frankly I used to go SS2 often but never enter this silly shopping mall. I rather drive few miles away to 1U.
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for those who keep saying up-up-up, rental good, buy commercial now... pls read this thread!!

for every successful commerical plot now, there are 3 failed ones or in the making.

because this place called klang valley is just trying to look good. not actually rich, people just goreng with debt to gomen and devs' delight.

let's stay tuned how many more malls will become ghosts malls - like those in china - which some say are exceptions, rural ulu... we're different... tongue.gif

13 new malls in 2011, another 11-12 in 2012, I believe.

dun go away - we all have eyes to see. tongue.gif

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There is hope for this mall if the right type of industry operates in it.

Put your thinking caps. I am not giving the answer so fast.


Added on April 19, 2011, 7:28 pm
QUOTE(rakyat @ Apr 19 2011, 05:06 PM)
Main reason is too close to Tropicana Mall which opend much earlier and already pulled the established tenants. It does not make business sense to open another branch within 0.5 km hence SS2 Mall cannot attract any big names. Cause chain reaction - no big names, no traffic/ patrons, no tenants.

The mall is huge for a neighbourhood mall; mayb another reason it is so empty. Should open 1st phase then only another phase.
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This is not the reason in my opinion.

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Guys, I'd been to SS2 many times but no idea where it is. Can someone tell where the place located?
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the marketing department from developer/management (if it exist) should look/launch all the retail shop in one go..give freebies, rental discount for first 18 months...Sunway Giza is a great example..


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Guys, I'd been to SS2 many times but no idea where it is. Can someone tell where the place located?
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is totally out from SS2 busy shop lots (where McD & KFC & Policestation located)...same row as (RedBliss-BridalShop) or New Paris Chinese restaurant...

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QUOTE(bux @ Apr 19 2011, 07:32 PM)
the marketing department from developer/management (if it exist) should look/launch all the retail shop in one go..give freebies, rental discount for first 18 months...Sunway Giza is a great example..


Added on April 19, 2011, 7:39 pm

is totally out from SS2 busy shop lots (where McD & KFC & Policestation located)...same row as (RedBliss-BridalShop) or New Paris Chinese restaurant...
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ic..thanks. I'd been to that place few times even to red bliss 2 years ago to hunt for my wedding package but didnt realise there's under construction mall. maybe will take a look at that place this weekend to see how it does.
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Wait 2 years and see!!!!!
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ghost mall because bad operator, no brains, no strategy?
nobody thinks it's because there're just too many malls spreading the crowd and $ thin?
or rich SS2 people's money all gone to goreng other props in kv? tongue.gif

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I'm a local not too far away so I know this place. SS2 Mall is located just few steps from the famous NEW PARIS Restaurant. PJ people will have to know it.

Lowyat@NET PropertyTalk 1st Gathering was held at Oldtown SS2 Mall back a few months ago.

1. I admit the location is quite "bad" as it is not visible from LDP and you have to through the SS2 housing area (passing SRK Taman Sea).
2. Tropicana City is just a short distance away, and it is a "real" mall.
3. Poor tenants composition and most of its current tenants do not attract crowd.
4. No anchor tenants, besides a wedding Chinese Restaurant and an electronics store chain by the name of TBM (who has heard of it?).
5. There'll be a grocery store soon, but never heard before.
6. SS2 is a senior citizen area, and you don't expect seniors to dine at those expensive kopitiams like Kiliney, Belanga, Secret Recipe, etc.
7. The shopping mall is badly designed especially the carpark, foyer area connecting the carpark to the floorway.
8. No cinema, no gym, no pubs/clubs, no banks, no supermarket, there's no MPH or Borders but a small TIMES, no WOW.

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no matter what shopping mall, u need a hypermarket/cinema to back it up

eg kelana jaya shopping mall giant hypermarket is there, else it will be another empty mall depends on those small shop eg star buck/pizza hut/kfc etc in due time the mall will become a white elephant

tropicana city mall have carrefour and cinema to back it up else no one is bother to even go around the shops there to do shopping to be frank.

1utama jusco is there, even now jusco is close for renovation, the shopper drops alot but still have cinema to back it up.

atria damansara shopping, is an good example until now nobody would rent there since parkson left, the business drop tremendously. such a big shopping complex going to waste

plaza phoenix at cheras white elephant.

u3 shopping almost closed down but refurbished to become viva home recently.

summit usj also not doing well at least have cinema
subang parade also not doing well at least have cinema and carrefour next to it

alot of successful malls at least need hypermarket/cinema to back it up. eg midvalley/sungei wang/ 1utama/ sunway piramid etc


Added on April 19, 2011, 9:55 pmownly hypermarket can do tremendous sales and attract shoppers like jusco member sales/ tesco sales/carefour sales/ ikea sales etc. the impact is there for business grocesory shoppers and family as well

other small shoppers cant bring in the crowd much. unless warehouse sales/ closing down sales etc

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True no hypermarket or cinema it's a waste...
As i remember that area is orang asli kampung, last time work nearby.
I rather pay more & rent major high traffic mall. Atleast gets motivated.
SS 2 residents oldies/younger gen prefer jaming at the classic SS2 area facing the police station where the mamak, murni, pasar malam, etc..

If it started slow like this, it will slowly fade away...
Yeah it's a mall in SS2 .. but don't lah call it ... SSTWO Mall sound cheap..
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all they need is a GSC i think, tropicana city mail used to b like that till gsc goes in.

there's actually a huge amount of student staying ard the area, a cinema will rly increase the traffic in the mail

the oldtown crowd used to b real real bad when it just got started so i always hang out there since is soooo empty, but now the crowd has a bit based on my last visit so i stop going there ( i just hate places with a lot of ppl)

anyway just my 2 cent
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on a separate note, citta mall seems to be set for glory. plenty of big names already confirmed including cinema (MBO) and grocery (can't remember what name) with handful of finer restaurant chain.
wondering when is it gonna open their door.

is ss2 mall named ss2 mall or asia retail mall???
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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 20 2011, 08:50 AM)
on a separate note, citta mall seems to be set for glory. plenty of big names already confirmed including cinema (MBO) and grocery (can't remember what name) with handful of finer restaurant chain.
wondering when is it gonna open their door.

is ss2 mall named ss2 mall or asia retail mall???
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Got big sign 'SS2 Mall' wor, where did u see Asia Retail Mall?
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Guys, I'd been to SS2 many times but no idea where it is. Can someone tell where the place located?
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Looks like SS2 mall going to become the next haunted hall in the near future.....
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Sometimes if the retail building failed it's main objective then they should look into reorganise their target market in order to revive the business. Like lowyat, they convert the nearly dead building into hyperstore for pc and IT parts and many peoples are coming to the place again. Perhaps they can target other concept like selling electronic goods or cameras or any targeted market tenancy to attract more people to come.
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 04:36 PM)
the food outlet like old town coffee like want to close shop, no people as well as other food outlet. one word expensive. nothing inside the mall, majority vacant.

even franchise business also will close down eventually if the mall is going to like that.

have to sell at a high price in-order to cover rental & other hidden cost.

nobody dares to open business there maybe rental is steep. even at the moment no competition also dont dare to open

maybe should need at least a big hypermarket eg tesco, jusco, carefour to boost it else will be pubs or cinema (that wont be for sure bcos the mall close at 10pm daily)

very bad. indeed. just imagine like empty mall at all floors

ONLY good thing is FREE PARKING at the mall and enjoy the air condition in the mall. other than that nothing to see.

provide as well as an alternative road to pass from section 17 to ss2 in order to beat the jam small bridge b4 the ss2 traffic light in order to go to ss2 area
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alot people do say it will definately close shop in 1-3 years times, if it continue.
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alot people do say it will definately close shop in 1-3 years times, if it continue.
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every other MALL like place start simple - TCM and Curve also started rather quiet BUT they were already on the main road.

the thing about SSTWO Mall (yes, that's the name. not SS2 Mall) is that it's right smack in a housing area. Sorta like an area where you'd see a school rather than a mall.

If this was SimCity then SSTWO Mall is like 5 squares from the main road, not a good thing.

Now it's as if the mall itself is catered for SS2's residents only.

If you're coming from Bangsar direction - option 1 is TCM, next up is 1U, further up is Curve and if they go further there's Sunway Giza Mall. Either way all are on the main road. If go LDP, then after TCM is KJ Giant.

SSTWO Mall is sorta like ATRIA in location - main difference is that ATRIA though anchor tenants moved out, they still have restaurants and a grocery shop, and pretty much still supported by the heaps of offices around.

SSTWO on mall on the other hand is just supported by residents and given a choice - they're rather go to the other 3 big ones nearby. Oh yeah reminds me of BU Center Point, pretty much dead until recently seems better.

Perhaps a fast-food chain would help - McD is certainly more appealing that Old Town (lousy small portion food).

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Looks like SS2 mall going to become the next haunted hall in the near future.....
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every other MALL like place start simple - TCM and Curve also started rather quiet BUT they were already on the main road.

the thing about SSTWO Mall (yes, that's the name. not SS2 Mall) is that it's right smack in a housing area. Sorta like an area where you'd see a school rather than a mall.

If this was SimCity then SSTWO Mall is like 5 squares from the main road, not a good thing.

Now it's as if the mall itself is catered for SS2's residents only.

If you're coming from Bangsar direction - option 1 is TCM, next up is 1U, further up is Curve and if they go further there's Sunway Giza Mall. Either way all are on the main road. If go LDP, then after TCM is KJ Giant.

SSTWO Mall is sorta like ATRIA in location - main difference is that ATRIA though anchor tenants moved out, they still have restaurants and a grocery shop, and pretty much still supported by the heaps of offices around.

SSTWO on mall on the other hand is just supported by residents and given a choice - they're rather go to the other 3 big ones nearby. Oh yeah reminds me of BU Center Point, pretty much dead until recently seems better.

Perhaps a fast-food chain would help - McD is certainly more appealing that Old Town (lousy small portion food).
break down all the walls and turn it into a skating rink / paintball arena / futsal court. smile.gif
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why go through the hassle?
in fact, should not even build anything lah. save the money, just erect some columns and a roof.
ming tien no.2 food court. am sure new paris will be fuming mad then!
hahaha.
cheap solution with big money flowing in ....

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location map from wikimapia -> http://wikimapia.org/16592463/SS2-mall

actually i quite like the streetmall concept. there are a few eateries there now, but i think they/mall management really need more efforts to attract more customers.

i dun want a ghost mall near my place shakehead.gif
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imo, this ss2 mall failed and will not rise easily because:
. malls, shops, petrol stations and the like are traffic generators - they attract people to buy homes nearby, live there
. they are best done during earlier part when developing the area when land is cheap, new homes are cheap
. in a mature area, land cost is exhorbitant, rental can only be high, retail prices will be high - becomes uncompetitive
. in a mature area where new homes and popn is not growing fast, can't expect much traffic growth
. in a mature area, residents are used to their usual places to hang out, to shop, not easy to change their habits
curve-ikano-ikea was built almost same time as the new houses in kd and md. as they get occupied, the place flourished, attracting people who onced thronged 1U as well.
in general, i believe new malls in new areas have a better chance to thrive. of course, if the bigger dev halts or occupancy rate stagnates, mati also.
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Downtown malls vs suburban malls — Colin Tan
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APRIL 22 — The results of a recent survey of tourist destinations released by the Association of Singapore Attractions last week were an eye-opener.

In spite of our island city receiving a record 11.6 million visitors last year — due in no small part to the debut of our two integrated resorts — nearly half of the 31 attractions surveyed reported a fall in the number of visitors — by up to 28 per cent in some cases.

With the exception of the China market, a closer look at our tourism statistics shows that it was the regional markets — Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam — which registered the strongest growth rates.

A former student intern from Bandung, Indonesia, told me it was much more convenient for her and her friends to come to Singapore via the budget airlines than for them to go to Jakarta for their entertainment and shopping. The flight time was also shorter. Budget airlines have certainly brought the regional markets a lot closer to Singapore, which is conveniently positioned in a central location.

The uneven performance of tourist destinations in Singapore is also probably true for our downtown malls. Some are doing very well, while others are fast losing their allure. Aside from the booming suburban shopping centres, it appears that the rest of the industry is going through a shake-out. And it appears that no downtown mall is spared, even the seemingly-successful new ones.

Landlords of suburban malls have found the winning formula for pulling in the crowds within their catchment areas. Find a location, preferably adjacent to, or better still, atop an MRT station. Next, put in a cineplex, food court and a huge supermarket. Any other attraction or anchor tenant is a bonus.

However, what works for suburban malls does not necessarily hold true for the downtown ones.

Two of the more successful downtown malls in my opinion — Takashimaya and Centrepoint - are not the closest to the MRT stations in their locations. And you can certainly pick malls which disappoint although they are the nearest to the exit points of the train stations.

In the past, downtown malls attracted the affluent and a stream of local shoppers from all corners of the island. Today, they have lost a significant proportion of their domestic market to suburban malls. Local shoppers need a good reason to visit the city malls. One of these is to meet friends and that is why there are a lot more F&B outlets and fine dining restaurants in the downtown malls. However, meeting friends is most convenient only in the evenings and at weekends.

Compared to a decade ago, there has also been a tripling or quadrupling of shop space in the downtown areas. So, there is definitely more competition. Frequent traffic jams and high parking charges are also limiting the number of trips made by the affluent segment. The pool of resident city shoppers is definitely smaller.

Fortunately, our integrated resorts have come to the rescue. Because of them, there are a lot more visitors to Singapore. Take a train in the city during working hours and you will find foreigners outnumbering locals by at least four to one. Besides English, I have overheard chatter in Bahasa, Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Tagalog, French and the odd African and Eastern European language.

I understand that well-to-do Indonesians like Takashimaya and shops in Ngee Ann City. Many are repeat customers. Once in Singapore, they waste no time and head straight to their favourite malls and shops. This is because they already know the service standards and the quality of the merchandise. However, this can only happen if there is stability of tenants. These shoppers do not have much time to window shop or look around elsewhere.

There are no detailed statistics to show it but I believe most of our recent arrivals from the region are frequent visitors, which may explain the drop or fluctuations in attendance for some tourist destinations.

I think downtown malls need to recognise that finding a market niche — which is tough in itself — is no longer enough but stability of tenants is just as important with the current profile of visitor arrivals.

So maximising rentals today — by quickly replacing existing tenants with higher paying ones - may be working wonders for suburban malls but it is counter-productive to the longer term success of the downtown mall. — Today

* Colin Tan is head of research and consultancy at Chesterton Suntec International.

* This is the personal opinion of the writer or publication. The Malaysian Insider does not endorse the view unless specified.

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I went there after CNY and my mind already decide this is going to be a failure when I see China national open shops to sell cheap China goods that you can find in pasar malam.

One more things is that there are no public transport there and if they think they going to survive with ss2 folks, then they be dead wrong.
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no offices nearby, transport/ bus problem etc no attractions at all for people to visit the place.

cineplex is out due heavy investment.
food court depends on the rental there whereas alot of restaurant/food outlet already open and competition is great.

huge supermarket unless the management have special arrangement with tesco/carefour/giant for them to open else is difficult

Problem is the management and rental wise as well as renovations will kill the business there.

eg.
telco like maxis from tmn tun shift to ss2 mall in order to minimise the jam and find a car park just to bills at the tmn tun.

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Let us discuss also, how to turn/make SSTWO Mall alive.

Any idea?
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 22 2011, 02:55 PM)
no offices nearby, transport/ bus problem etc no attractions at all for people to visit the place.

cineplex is out due heavy investment.
food court  depends on the rental there whereas alot of restaurant/food outlet already open and competition is great.

huge supermarket unless the management have special arrangement with tesco/carefour/giant for them to open else is difficult

Problem is the management and rental wise as well as renovations will kill the business there.

eg.
telco like maxis from tmn tun shift to ss2 mall in order to minimise the jam and find a car park just to bills  at the tmn tun.
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I got a feeling SSTWO mall wont go far since the beginning. Even the name itself is a derivative of the area its suposed to be in. Cant they be anymore creative or classy?

when people ask: Where did you go just yesterday? The answer "sstwo" verbally also people think they are referring to the original ss2 area.

How to generate "word-of-mouth" publicity? The marketing team are left with poorly-made and hard-to-undo decision by the owner of the mall.

Imagine if One Utama mall was named BandarOotama. definitely will be a bummer then.

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I got a feeling SSTWO mall wont go far since the beginning. Even the name itself is a derivative of the area its suposed it. Cant they be anymore creative or classy?

when people ask: Where did you go just yesterday? The answer "sstwo" verbally also people think they are referring to the original ss2 area.

How to generate "word-of-mouth" publicity? The marketing team are left with poorly-made and hard-to-undo decision by the owner of the mall.
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A: SSTWO Mall in SS2.
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it will not be easy to revive a dying mall..
regardless it is a shopping mall, hyper market or jusco...
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it will not be easy to revive a dying mall..
regardless it is a shopping mall, hyper market or jusco...
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challenging job huh...

Imaging you own SSTWO Mall now, what should/will you do to revive the activities in the mall?


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give incentive MBO/TGV/GSC to open cinema there, with free parking will slowly prosper la.
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give incentive MBO/TGV/GSC to open cinema there, with free parking will slowly prosper la.
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Added on April 22, 2011, 4:45 pmWhat make Centre Point @ Bandar utama happening?

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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 04:36 PM)
the food outlet like old town coffee like want to close shop, no people as well as other food outlet. one word expensive. nothing inside the mall, majority vacant.

even franchise business also will close down eventually if the mall is going to like that.

have to sell at a high price in-order to cover rental & other hidden cost.

nobody dares to open business there maybe rental is steep. even at the moment no competition also dont dare to open

maybe should need at least a big hypermarket eg tesco, jusco, carefour to boost it else will be pubs or cinema (that wont be for sure bcos the mall close at 10pm daily)

very bad. indeed. just imagine like empty mall at all floors

ONLY good thing is FREE PARKING at the mall and enjoy the air condition in the mall. other than that nothing to see.

provide as well as an alternative road to pass from section 17 to ss2 in order to beat the jam small bridge b4 the ss2 traffic light in order to go to ss2 area
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of coz free parking .. they actually wan to pay for parking .. u can see all the touch n go is ready to setup ..
but no ppl go .. if still charge for parking die lagi cepat
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1) lower the rental price
2) free shuttle to SS2 Mall
3) Pull in more digital tenants
4) More LED lighting at facade
5) Must have at least KFC/Mc donald/ Starbucks/Coffea Beans tenants
6) More adverts

If cant fulfill even 2 of the above 5 years time its just a irritating building next door !

Just my 2 yen ! hmm.gif
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challenging job huh...

Imaging you own SSTWO Mall now, what should/will you do to revive the activities in the mall?
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Target a quality anchor tenant prefebaly hypermarket - Jusco or at least Cold Storage. Using the anchor tenant's influence, recruit afew minor anchor like Ace, ToyRUs, McD, Old town ect. All that had to be done during construction stage not after opening and closing down stage cry.gif

Cater more for family emphasis on children / toddlers. Have week-end bazaars and other minor activities?
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Malaysians have been spoilt with hypermall likes 1U and Mid Valley that anything smaller or specialised will not survive. Another thing is the intense competition. In Australia, they tend to survey areas before allowing anything to be built. Hypermall will be minimal. You probably need at least 500,000 population before they allow one to be built and probably nothing else nearby. Even then, their hypermall is so much smaller than likes of 1U and MV. Just see the distance between 1U, MV and Curve. It is not easy for anything nearby to survive.
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yeah yeah yeah..i see some positive contributions.

keep it guys, I believe the management is trying to make some changes.
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QUOTE(michaellee @ Apr 22 2011, 04:56 PM)
Malaysians have been spoilt with hypermall likes 1U and Mid Valley that anything smaller or specialised will not survive. Another thing is the intense competition. In Australia, they tend to survey areas before allowing anything to be built. Hypermall will be minimal. You probably need at least 500,000 population before they allow one to be built and probably nothing else nearby. Even then, their hypermall is so much smaller than likes of 1U and MV. Just see the distance between 1U, MV and Curve. It is not easy for anything nearby to survive.
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agree. too many of them, too big. a few more will come and go in the next decade.

everybody hopes everybody else will spend at these malls to keep the place prosperous, but really, i doubt many spend that much $ at these malls.

esp now got to pay so much for new house, better stick to kopishops. tongue.gif

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I drove pass SSTWO mall when coming to work on weekdays.

Before SSTWO came up, the houses opposite must be happy to have it right in front of the doorstep (wow.. such amenities!).

But they have lost a plot of precious spot in front of their house for guests/own to park their cars. Even the plants they planted were removed to make way for sidewalk half-a-feet thick protruding next to their main gates. I think this is to avoid visitors to the mall from illegal parking in front of the residental house.

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I think Atria is undergoing plans of renovation or re-building. Will these two other malls survive since SS2 mall looks obscure. Do agree, a well known supermarket / hypermarket alike & cinema will be a major factor in attracting crowd. Do we really need more 'neighbourhood malls since there are already a handful of hypermarts, 1U, Tropicana City Mall, Mid Valley, etc within short drive away.
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A lot more retail centres are coming in Klang Valley.

Actually lot of us think that it is unnecessary to have so many malls.

hehehe, if this SSTwo Mall was not ready now, it maybe will also part of ETP, to create more JOBS for people....(who knows) kekekeke
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kh8668, you are the reatil agent for ss2 mall kah? why so helpful to them?

anyway, forummers here are all so great and helpful (me included lah), so might as well shed my 2 rupiah lah:
1. what is ss2 well known for? get those people in and get them in with style.
to elaborate, ss2 is mushrooming into a bridal specialist. perhaps group all the bridal shop onto the top floor ala a theme for the mall (bridal mall).
2. ss2 is also famous for their mamak and murni. give these big timers in local ss2 preferred shops in ss2 mall. in that way, ss2mall by virtue is representing a updated ss2 neighbourhood. everything they love about ss2 would be concentranted in this mall itself. imagine you walk in, u see familiar ss2 faces. murni, new paris restaurant, the taiwan beef noodle shop, etc.
3. get the goldsmith in as well. remember all those gold smith in the ss2 square. if they can survive so long, they must be doing decent business. and if they can attract crowd, have a sub-theme in the mall. and they even complement the bridal theme too. when getting married, sure must buy gold for present mah...
4. banks. one of the many features in ss2. get the banks to operate inside the mall ala curve, ikano. have sunday banking too.

am sure with the above, BHAM! ss2 mall will be the more happening place instantly.
what do you all think?
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I hope I be their agent la.....got money to earn dun want meh...but just curiuos what to do to make the mall happening. Since it is already built, have to make it happening lo, otherwise, turn it to be warehouse a?


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kh8668, you are the reatil agent for ss2 mall kah? why so helpful to them?

anyway, forummers here are all so great and helpful (me included lah), so might as well shed my 2 rupiah lah:
1. what is ss2 well known for? get those people in and get them in with style.
to elaborate, ss2 is mushrooming into a bridal specialist. perhaps group all the bridal shop onto the top floor ala a theme for the mall (bridal mall).
2. ss2 is also famous for their mamak and murni. give these big timers in local ss2 preferred shops in ss2 mall. in that way, ss2mall by virtue is representing a updated ss2 neighbourhood. everything they love about ss2 would be concentranted in this mall itself. imagine you walk in, u see familiar ss2 faces. murni, new paris restaurant, the taiwan beef noodle shop, etc.
3. get the goldsmith in as well. remember all those gold smith in the ss2 square. if they can survive so long, they must be doing decent business. and if they can attract crowd, have a sub-theme in the mall. and they even complement the bridal theme too. when getting married, sure must buy gold for present mah...
4. banks. one of the many features in ss2. get the banks to operate inside the mall ala curve, ikano. have sunday banking too.

am sure with the above, BHAM! ss2 mall will be the more happening place instantly.
what do you all think?
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hmmm...if this happened, what will be the destiny of those ss2 commercial shoplots?

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kh8668, you are the reatil agent for ss2 mall kah? why so helpful to them?

anyway, forummers here are all so great and helpful (me included lah), so might as well shed my 2 rupiah lah:
1. what is ss2 well known for? get those people in and get them in with style.
to elaborate, ss2 is mushrooming into a bridal specialist. perhaps group all the bridal shop onto the top floor ala a theme for the mall (bridal mall).
2. ss2 is also famous for their mamak and murni. give these big timers in local ss2 preferred shops in ss2 mall. in that way, ss2mall by virtue is representing a updated ss2 neighbourhood. everything they love about ss2 would be concentranted in this mall itself. imagine you walk in, u see familiar ss2 faces. murni, new paris restaurant, the taiwan beef noodle shop, etc.
3. get the goldsmith in as well. remember all those gold smith in the ss2 square. if they can survive so long, they must be doing decent business. and if they can attract crowd, have a sub-theme in the mall. and they even complement the bridal theme too. when getting married, sure must buy gold for present mah...
4. banks. one of the many features in ss2. get the banks to operate inside the mall ala curve, ikano. have sunday banking too.

am sure with the above, BHAM! ss2 mall will be the more happening place instantly.
what do you all think?
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Unfortunately in Malaysia's context, specialist malls are not all that common yet. In fact not many places in this world, can you find specialist malls. Eg. if it becomes a bridal centre, only people who wants to get married will go there. But when you reach that mall, you will find the walk-in traffic too small. Chinese will say, not enough "yan hei". Specialist gold smith malls, I have seen a few. With Dubai gold souk market being the most successfully marketed.
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hmmm....specialist mall will not work in Malaysia.

Same fate like Viva Mall (UE3 Mall before)? before I heard that mall will be also a bridal Mall, biggest electric appliances mall or furniture mall...kekeke if I am not wrong.
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A bridal mall only kills it faster. Only a niche customers will visit it for a singular purpose. People dont get married once a year.

btw, the floorspace require for a single bridal store is too much to cope for the single lot in SSTWO.
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not need make it so difficult to come out as bridal mall or wht...juz get in a grocery market like giant or whtsoever, then bring in TGV..then will attract the crowd...
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Throwing something sized the same as TCM into location like this kill it not due to the proximity to TCM but location.
Although retail properties carry a higher value assuming full occupancy, building condominiums there will be a sell-out which is better.
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The building layout design is not that bad actually. As mentioned by some forummers earlier, all they need is a cinema and a hypermarket.
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It needs time. Too many shopping mall around this area already...

Some more the visibility is poor. Located within a cluster of housing area. The only intended customers/patrons are from the surrounding residents only. And the surrounding got so many other choices to choose from...
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the biggest competition is SS2 square itself. pracrically everything is there, from banks to restaurants.
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the biggest competition is SS2 square itself. pracrically everything is there, from banks to restaurants.
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SS2 square is very much convenience & services based, a mall at the size of SSTwo Mall shouldn't compete in that way, period.
Atria is not doing very good but because it is surrounded by so many shops you hardly don't notice its existent.
SSTwo Mall's location is worse, Jalan SS2/72 was never really that busy.

Knowing who owns the mall and who made the decision will tell you clearly why it doesn't work.
Jaya One being at the busy Jalan Universiti took a long time for people to actually remember its name, albeit it is largely due to its 'far-sighted' internal layout.

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SS2 square is very much convenience & services based, a mall at the size of SSTwo Mall shouldn't compete in that way, period.
Atria is not doing very good but because it is surrounded by so many shops you hardly don't notice its existent.
SSTwo Mall's location is worse, Jalan SS2/72 was never really that busy.

Knowing who owns the mall and who made the decision will tell you clearly why it doesn't work.
Jaya One being at the busy Jalan Universiti took a long time for people to actually remember its name, albeit it is largely due to its 'far-sighted' internal layout.
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yeah true .. no one will go in Jalan SS2/72 .. but only those resident there ..
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lol thats true .. but how frequent ?
i go there once every 2or3month ..
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lol thats true .. but how frequent ?
i go there once every 2or3month ..
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By ANGIE NG | Apr 23, 2011
Attraction of average-size residential, shopping projects

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The built environment in the Klang Valley, Penang and other parts of the country is poised for major changes going by the ambitious infrastructure and development projects that have been planned to boost the liveability and growth potential of our major cities.

Projects such as the mass rapid transit in the Klang Valley and the light rail transit and monorail projects in Penang will certainly herald many new changes in the property landscape.

These infrastructure projects will undoubtedly spawn opportunities for other types of development such as housing, office buildings, shopping malls, industrial parks and public facilities.

With all the big plans under way, there may be a tendency to pay too much attention on building mega buildings and structures, and neglect the basic, simple needs and necessities of the common folks.

Many Klang Valley folks consider it unnecessary to spend too much resources on gigantic structures and projects just to add to the city’s skyline.

In fact, the debate on whether there is a need to build the 100-storey Warisan Merdeka tower in the vicinity of Dataran Merdeka, Kuala Lumpur, is still on.

Personally, I believe there are many worthwhile projects that can be pursued, such as cultural and art centres that should be planned based on traditional architecture and using local and indigenous designs and materials. They present opportunities to liven up our cities with more holistic activities and showcase the rich local culture and heritage to visitors.

So it makes sense to incorporate Malaysia’s multi-culture and multi-ethnic heritage into the new commercial projects in our major cities.

We must remember that foreign visitors and tourists to the country are here to savour and experience the living heritage of the people in our cities, towns and villages, instead of gazing at the skyscrapers and concrete jungle which they can find in their own countries. In many ways, what they hope to experience is the simple, yet rich and original way of life of the local people.

Likewise, new residential projects should also look into the basic needs of potential buyers and should be functional instead of over-emphasising the aesthetics. There is a growing number of people who want to live in the city centre but find the prices of the property way beyond their reach.

There should be more effort to build smaller “starter” units in the urban conurbations in order to attract and retain young talent and workforce in cities, particularly Kuala Lumpur.

A review of planning laws and incentives should be considered to encourage developers to build more such entry-level properties for first-time homeowners.

These developments can be integrated with some nice lifestyle food and beverage outlets and retail centres.

Since a number of condominium projects have yet to be fully sold or occupied, perhaps the developers can look at redesigning the layout plans and turn some of the overly spacious units to smaller homes.

Developers of such starter homes have reported brisk sales and there is still a long waiting list for these smaller residences.

In fact, there is also tremendous opportunity to further liven up the Klang Valley’s retail landscape with more average size lifestyle outlets and centres.

The plan to link major retail destinations in Kuala Lumpur’s main shopping hub will help promote the city as a favourite shopping destination.

Walking around shopping malls that are well spaced out, safe and not overcrowded has proven to be therapeutic and relaxing.

It is not only the fairer gender who are taking to shopping as a favourite past-time but their male counterparts have also caught up with this habit. Whether it is to look for something to buy or just taking a stroll, shopping complexes have become favourite haunts for many Klang Valley folks.

The scorching sun has made walking a chore these days and setting up shaded pedestrian walkways in major shopping streets will do well to promote the city’s shopping potential.



Deputy news editor Angie Ng knows that in many ways, simplicity and originality is highly desirable as far as living environment is concerned.

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the price of the food at various outlet there is fantastic and tasteless. go and eat the first time and u wont return for a 2nd time.

eg old town kopitiam, just a small cup of plain water cost 80 cents ++ (not inclusive service+ govt tax yet). not much variety and very steep price.

how many times can people go to the place and eat in a month.

just compare with murni ss2 and many other nice looking food outlet( eg old kopitiam/hailam etc in no time will closed shop), the murni ss2 (shop need not to be nice looking as long as food is reasonable and cheap) business is tremendous daily at ss2 murni.

maybe the ss2 mall management there is loaded, not hurry/proactive enough to get in outlets. every month passes very fast whether is rental cheap or not, $$ flys. either get something or nothing at all (place/outlet waiting for miracle to rent). another thing the fengshui of the mall is not good. just wondering how long can it sustain?.

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they could do better if it was office units.
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the problem with mall like damansara atria, tropicana city, ss2 mall, kelana jaya mall, jaya1, jaya33 etc does not capture tourist/expatriate business, business there is for residential/nearby people to window shop.

tourist never go to this type of mall.

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just look at ampang shopping complex (even have macd/ pizza hut etc), kl plaza, yow chuan plaza, outlets there all is waiting for time to fly daily. wasting time & $$. maybe near klcc/pavilion/sungei wang is near, tourist/people may pass by (window shop only) or dont bother to even go in the next door shopping outlet. gardens & midvalley, majority at midvalley bcos of hypermarket is there.

business in this area will not boom.
what purpose people would want to go to shopping complexes? sales/ promotion happening/cinema/fitness gym etc

purchasing item at shopping mall is much more expensive than shops due to rental wise, majority wont buy from malls.

only for hypermarket is much cheaper bcos of volume buying. or doing specialize business like ikea.

others outlet is just addon to it.

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Im a frequent patron of ss2 and yet, I dont have any clue bout this mall, lol
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Actually those who are saying that Atria is not doing so good..

it's because the residents around the area DON'T WANT it to be doing good.. there was this proposal to redevelop it to a 6 story office cum shopping mall but it was rejected heavily by the residents nearby. They prefer it with the way it is now.

SS2 mall..... i feel that it will fail too but let's see how it goes..and yes.. having a strong anchor tenant would certainly help a lot..
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Im a frequent patron of ss2 and yet, I dont have any clue bout this mall, lol
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Just drive down ss2/24 and *before* you make a right turn to Rothsman roundabout, turn LEFT. Drive straight to the end. You can't miss this gigantic mall icon_rolleyes.gif

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Im a frequent patron of ss2 and yet, I dont have any clue bout this mall, lol
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SS2 so big, you wouldn't know unless you pass that road. smile.gif
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SS2 so big, you wouldn't know unless you pass that road. smile.gif
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and its hardly for other to go in that road ..

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QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 23 2011, 06:48 PM)
Actually those who are saying that Atria is not doing so good..

it's because the residents around the area DON'T WANT it to be doing good.. there was this proposal to redevelop it to a 6 story office cum shopping mall but it was rejected heavily by the residents nearby. They prefer it with the way it is now.

SS2 mall..... i feel that it will fail too but let's see how it goes..and yes.. having a strong anchor tenant would certainly help a lot..
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At every Residents Meeting, the talk of town is to protest the redevelopment of Atria.

Anyway the latest I heard is the developer will still go ahead with redevelopment plans but on a smaller scale. The hawker centre next to Lotus/Koon Kee/Magic Wok will also be redeveloped.

Previous rendering looks like this:

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If I am the resident there I also object la just looking at the rendering and imagining the traffic it will cause.... rclxub.gif





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Better for SS2 mall to be empty or any other mall that is near to residents house, not to be crowded bcos the road nearby will be tremendously jam. residents there will be complaining in the future.

The road there is already congested at certain times, bottleneck is near the paris restaurant that leads out to the main road
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Made a pit stop outside SS2Mall last Sun. Not to makan, not to shop but to throw rubbish into recycle bin. Hiya, wify too environmental conscious, I support too but in this 1Malaysia land who cares. Drive far far look for recycle bin I told her you waste more fuel not green lah.

Ok, back to main topic. Bet location out, hidden from main road, not connected, traffic flow (some say angin water) just not good. You may bring in anchor tenant whatever. Question, would anchor tenant dares to take up you empty space? One thing majority people incl. landlords forgotten aircon bill made up big chunk of the monthly expenses. Unless your building pre-planned without aircon (like Giza, Centre Point 1&2 big thumbs up), else you will regret, tens or hundreds of thousand going down drain every month. Want to engage us to do a study? Our fees half of your aircon bill save for coming 2 yrs enough already .. hehe.

Why as consumers we want to go to your mall and not another just 2km away? What the hassle going thru traffic jams, small backlanes etc? Anything attractive? If you sell the same concept as others do and your location tak boleh pakai, who wants to go? So you need something thing different like some mentioned specialist mall etc to make a different.

Else going to be another eg of Carrefour Kota D'sara where go there makan angin, enjoy aircon if you don't want to get caught in traffic jam at Giant, Curve, 1U etc.

Just few mths back there was a report mentioned upcoming retailed malls in KV going to face the highest hurdle in the coming months/yrs. The fittest win.

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QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 23 2011, 06:48 PM)
Actually those who are saying that Atria is not doing so good..

it's because the residents around the area DON'T WANT it to be doing good.. there was this proposal to redevelop it to a 6 story office cum shopping mall but it was rejected heavily by the residents nearby. They prefer it with the way it is now.

SS2 mall..... i feel that it will fail too but let's see how it goes..and yes.. having a strong anchor tenant would certainly help a lot..
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actually they're going ahead with the atria redevelopment plan as the tenants there have been given 3 months notice to move out......so by end of july atria will be empty.

im one of those affected tenants sad.gif
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actually they're going ahead with the atria redevelopment plan as the tenants there have been given 3 months notice to move out......so by end of july atria will be empty.

im one of those affected tenants  sad.gif
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Yes that's true. Was in Atria last Sunday to buy some school uniform on the 2nd floor. The lady told me also and inform me to go to their new stall just adjacent to the complex. Hopefully a new nice mall will emerged.
To tell you the truth, I only go to Atria to eat KFC once a blue moon and to get uniform. Sometimes may buy from Bata there as well. Besides that, the mall sucks. The lady that does clothes alteration on the 3rd floor very Lcly....lol but true icon_rolleyes.gif
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Paris Restaurant maybe can expand to SSTwo Mall... and bring in Wai Sek Kai also can....

SS2 folks are not used to seeing stalls like Belanga, Henry Cook watever notts.s.. Heard that Fullhouse is opening there? LOL
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SS2 mall is good for me. Can drop by to eat anytime without looking for carpark. but for shopping I go to tropicana city mall.
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neva been to this place..
but just Google around and found some pictures

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looks kinda empty...
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after so long, and i still have not been there. hahha
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tropicana mall vs ss2 mall, i will to tropicana.
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I went to eat chiken Hot Pot last weekend....wow..very very spicy...but taste good

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SS2 already got Tropicana Mall .. I don't know why this developer still want to open SS2 Mall especially in residential area.

Furthermore, I think PJ already too crowed with shopping malls, big and small. I also only going to few selected mall only. This is crazy.
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QUOTE(bcteh @ May 5 2011, 10:12 PM)
SS2 already got Tropicana Mall .. I don't know why this developer still want to open SS2 Mall especially in residential area.

Furthermore, I think PJ already too crowed with shopping malls, big and small. I also only going to few selected mall only. This is crazy.
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doomed to fail...should have built some condo, soho, office tower, college with a mall below..
then, it wont be empty.
day time u have college student hanging around... pretty girls strolling.
office workers looking.

nite time u have condo residence, and potential rent out so some student n workers.

nite time, get some karaoke, spa, drinking session, 7-11, fitness first

then the mall can be successful.

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nowadays,those mall without strong supermarket like giant/tesco is very hard to survive
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neva been to this place..
but just Google around and found some pictures

looks kinda empty...
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thx for the sharing rclxms.gif

stay in sea park, i still have not been there, don't know what is the attraction really? something like JAYA 1?

for me, if want to shopping go 1U/ IKEA/
If get grocery go Giant @ sea park/ jaya 1/ jaya33
hang up or dinner with friends, will go JAYA 1
catch a movie ? go Tropicana thumbup.gif
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Bad mall management then. I saw it driving around but never heard of it before...
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It is situated at poor location. Not near main road. If you not familar with the area, sure cant find.
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Hot weather drives people to malls and pools
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KUALA LUMPUR: The recent scorching weather has turned public pools and air-conditioned malls into cool havens for families looking to escape the heat.

“This is only the second time my family has come to the pool at KLCC Park. We usually go to the Darul Ehsan Aquatic Centre in Shah Alam,” said Haripin Tauhid, 49, who brought his family all the way from Klang.


Can’t stand the heat: Families taking a break from the hot weather to cool off at Wet World in Shah Alam. “Although it's farther for us than the aquatic centre, there is more to do at KLCC. Earlier, we had stayed in the mall because the weather was too hot,” said the father of five.

German backpacker Agnes Fischer said it had seem sunnier in Malaysia since her last visit.

“But that's why I like it here,” she said.

Malaccan Gopal Subramaniam said he did not mind the heat as he was used to even hotter weather in his home town.

“I do miss having a good cendol to cool down on a day like this, though,” joked Gopal.


Bangsar residents taking a bath on a hot day next to a water tanker after being without water for two weeks.
In Bangsar, residents of the Seri Pahang public housing have had to cope with a water cut for the past two weeks on top of the hot weather.

Residents said they had been lugging pails of water from a tanker to their homes. Children were also seen taking their showers by the tanker as they filled pails with water.

“We have to keep coming down to the parking lot to get water,” said resident Thavamoney Murugasu, 45, adding that they had lodged complaints with Syabas (Syarikat Bekalan Air Selangor Sdn Bhd) and City Hall.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...4372&sec=nation



ONE OF THE CRUCIAL FACTOR TO REVIVE SSTWO MALL....KLEKEKEKE smile.gif
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Just passed by that day on the way at the roundabout.

How to access the mall?
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This land which SS2 mall situated should be used to built bungalows instead, or those boutique houses/townhouses.
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Maybe they can demolish it and build condos or something?

Before they build it, i alredi have doubts that ppl will go there in the 1st place...
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QUOTE(ericpires @ May 9 2011, 04:36 PM)
Maybe they can demolish it and build condos or something?

Before they build it, i alredi have doubts that ppl will go there in the 1st place...
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mai siao.....they used RM180mil to build the mall....now you ask them to knock it down? kekeke
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its a cacat/lousy place
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post May 10 2011, 05:29 PM

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give it 3 years time..kekekeke
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ May 9 2011, 05:05 PM)
mai siao.....they used RM180mil to build the mall....now you ask them to knock it down? kekeke
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RM180mill? What is the main attraction?

Like Digital Mall is more for digital gadgets etc.... what's in SS2 Mall? Hawker food?
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in future will have celebrities fitness in the mall...
can it become selling point to attract more ppl go??

mmhh...
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f&b takes the lead
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ya.......agree should built some bunglow, townhouse or condo......not need anoth shopping mall since tropicana city just within 1km distance...wht a lousy plan...
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QUOTE(seanooi880327 @ May 10 2011, 05:31 PM)
in future will have celebrities fitness in the mall...
can it become selling point to attract more ppl go??

mmhh...
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I cant even find the access road! laugh.gif

I was at the rothman roundabout & saw the mall. No signboard also to guide ppl in... looks so deeeeeep inside doh.gif


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f&b takes the lead
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SS2 is always associated with food.... nod.gif


QUOTE(doomdoom @ May 10 2011, 05:32 PM)
ya.......agree should built some bunglow, townhouse or condo......not need anoth shopping mall since tropicana city just within 1km distance...wht a lousy plan...
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But ppl also said that to tropicana city: "1 utama & the Curve are just nearby... " laugh.gif
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I cant even find the access road! laugh.gif

I was at the rothman roundabout & saw the mall. No signboard also to guide ppl in... looks so deeeeeep inside doh.gif
SS2 is always associated with food.... nod.gif
But ppl also said that to tropicana city: "1 utama & the Curve are just nearby... " laugh.gif
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hahaha...One Utama is good. The Curve luckily got ikano power centre and ikea connecting each others, otherwise, I don't think it will survive.

furthermore, one utama and the curve clustered with ikano power centre and ikea are BIG BIG MALLs
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ May 10 2011, 05:45 PM)
hahaha...One Utama is good. The Curve luckily got ikano power centre and ikea connecting each others, otherwise, I don't think it will survive.

furthermore, one utama and the curve clustered with ikano power centre and ikea are BIG BIG MALLs
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yea, normally will hanging around at ikea, ikano power center and tesco....and the food street at the curve, seldom will visit the shops in the curve...
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ May 9 2011, 05:05 PM)
mai siao.....they used RM180mil to build the mall....now you ask them to knock it down? kekeke
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confirm will close shop in time to come, if it continue to be the same
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QUOTE(snake4168 @ Apr 20 2011, 12:00 PM)
YES! their rental is so expensive! similar price to Midvalley! Also their agent quite choosy! need you to spend a fortune to renovate the lot.
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That brings to my thought of Avenue K fails, despite so near to KLCC, with LRT somemore...with Fitnesss First somemore....with Food Court somemore...
by the main road somemore....
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can business really sustain in order to cover the hidden cost
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they could do better if it was office units.
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why should we need so many office unit in klang valley , when The garden office suite is still vacant for most of the level and the whole klang valley is flooded with all those new office unit....


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QUOTE(geolee @ May 25 2011, 01:42 PM)
That brings to my thought of Avenue K fails, despite so near to KLCC, with LRT somemore...with Fitnesss First somemore....with Food Court somemore...
by the main road somemore....
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My personal view is that Avenue K has been overshadowed by KLCC.

When there is two beautiful girls together, people will put their attention on the more beautiful one. Unless the less beautiful one has got some special identity that make her outstanding and easy for people to remember.

In the case of Avenue-K. For me, the design looks like it is an extended arm of KLCC or complimenting KLCC.

For Avenue-K to stand out, it has to either offer a different thing than KLCC or it has to be better in certain aspect when comparing to KLCC. Otherwise it is difficult to attract people to Avenue-K when there is already KLCC.

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no matter what just ask yrself, will it be successful or vice versa. already know yr answer. very poor forth sight

now even the river bank near ken3 collapse even worst.

can it go foward or productive depends on the management

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OT:

Avenue K one big problem was that the owner "jual mahal". they thought they are so great so near KLCC so charge the rents so expensive that everyone just couldn't survive and hence slowly slowly abandon.

The effects of doing such a stupid thing is felt till today. That is why never make the wrong move as it can have permanent long lasting effects!! Only now do they start charging low but the damage is done.
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QUOTE(ebackbone @ May 27 2011, 12:43 PM)
OT:

Avenue K one big problem was that the owner "jual mahal". they thought they are so great so near KLCC so charge the rents so expensive that everyone just couldn't survive and hence slowly slowly abandon.

The effects of doing such a stupid thing is felt till today. That is why never make the wrong move as it can have permanent long lasting effects!! Only now do they start charging low but the damage is done.
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this is the problem for local market ..
its not hard to see many fail or jialat project around ..
and MANY empty office lot, soho unit, condo/apartment ..
all hold by those greedy invester ..
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how to u feel for tropicana ? look good outside .. go in haiz ..
how to u feel 'niu zhe shui' at damansara ? same thing .. now is totally dead but invester cant let go at cheap price ..
so many empty unit of condo/apartment ..

so for ss2 mall .. it will never be better ..
no matter how sweet talk by the other .. it just a talk .. it just a dream
ss2 mall already fail in 2 category such as , location and transportation

and i live in ss2 ..
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Celebrity Fitness is coming to SSTwo Mall.........
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i attended a wedding dinner last weekend on SSTwo Mall.
its seem many dont know where's SSTwo mall located.

besides that, the newly open chinese Restaurant at SSTwo Mall is nice. Food is ok, big portion.

But its were so hot ! The huge crowd and the air-condition not able to cool everyone!

Very hot.. very hot... hot hot hot all the way in dinner.... =.='
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 27 2011, 04:29 PM)
i attended a wedding dinner last weekend on SSTwo Mall.
its seem many dont know where's SSTwo mall located.
i roughly know where it's, but dun know how to turn inside......

very bad access....same with tropicana mall......

dun worry, I wont miss any of these two malls.....really add nothing to my life, unless you are residents nearby..
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 27 2011, 04:29 PM)
i attended a wedding dinner last weekend on SSTwo Mall.
its seem many dont know where's SSTwo mall located.

besides that, the newly open chinese Restaurant at SSTwo Mall is nice. Food is ok, big portion.

But its were so hot ! The huge crowd and the air-condition not able to cool everyone!

Very hot.. very hot... hot hot hot all the way in dinner....  =.='
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I'm very interested with the mention of "big portion" ... wat is name of restoran? I wanna try.

I meet fren in ss2 but never know how to go in. Please guide me thanks smile.gif
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I'm very interested with the mention of "big portion" ... wat is name of restoran? I wanna try.

I meet fren in ss2 but never know how to go in. Please guide me thanks smile.gif
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it's along the same road as new paris restaurant ... 'big portion' is on the top floor if i remember correctly.

i was there 2 days ago and mall still as empty as when i was first there ... i believe the rent free period given by the mall has run out for most of the first batch of tenants. We will see if they continue to stay or start to stop operations. But Chatime was enjoying brisk business there, surprising .. smile.gif

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does the ken3 condo landslide collapse case affect the ss2 mall?
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ May 30 2011, 12:07 PM)
does the ken3 condo landslide collapse case affect the ss2 mall?
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Considering before the landslide case happened, this mall have been going downhill. Further -ve affect are barely minimal.

its like telling a dying cancer patient he got diabetes.

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come to think of it, i've never been to this mall before since it was launched and I am only work around the corner.

I hardly hear any of my colleagues visit this mall b4 as well.
we would rather go to Jaya One for food/lunch or dinner ... even happy hour
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its also not a good sign that nearby ken3 landslide case for ss2 mall.
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ May 30 2011, 12:07 PM)
does the ken3 condo landslide collapse case affect the ss2 mall?
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Where is the landslide? Didn't come out in news??
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Where is the landslide? Didn't come out in news??
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With the new half nude woman jumping off Tropics this area looks like doomed for now. Series of bad things happening to this area. One after the other.
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QUOTE(stevenkkt @ May 30 2011, 09:18 PM)
With the new half nude woman jumping off Tropics this area looks like doomed for now. Series of bad things happening to this area. One after the other.
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what?!? shakehead.gif serious?? Will Googleball reveal?

Ok. I am a slowpoke...

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But the nude woman jumped is at The Tropics, then Tropicana Mall shall be affected, not SS2 Mall?
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they are opening a celebrity fitness there, if i am not mistaken.....
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give them a chance.. 2 more years only death sentence.. haha

normally property will take few years to be matured..

i think now is too soon to give them death penalty.. right?
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Agreed, need to give it more time. But need atleast an anchor tenant to bring life into the premise. Last but not least, supports from SS2 residents themselves is very important.
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QUOTE(yon @ May 31 2011, 02:14 PM)
give them a chance.. 2 more years only death sentence.. haha

normally property will take few years to be matured..

i think now is too soon to give them death penalty.. right?
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ya agree with u, this is still ss2, the hottest area for petaling jaya center part...give it another 2 years...
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The only spot that has most ppl frequenting in SS2 mall is Chatime!
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We have a retail outlet in SSTwoMall and frankly the management here is very disappointing. They promised alot of thing to us (publicity, advertisements, promotions, branded and well known tenants, etc.) to get us to open up here in the beginning but has been half a year and even a supermarket is not open here yet.
The main problem here is the rental, it is very expensive for a newly open mall. We're just using the space here as more like a store and office space for us. Barely any walk in customers.
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Hi Guys. I am one of the tenants in SS2 Mall.

From my point of view, the location is good, but the management is very bad. Typical Singaporeans cant just come into Malaysia and run a business here. They don't know about the market here. Unless it's capital land we are talking about. That's a different storey.

Reasons that they fail:
1. They are holding very tightly to their rental prices Rm9-RM15/feet². They think they are Pavillion for holding on to that price. KFC wanted to come in and wanted 2 years free rental. SS2Mall said no.

2. The current management (3rd one) is not doing any activities in the weekends. The community there came in and take a look and then walks out because there's nothing to see.

3. They bluffed the current that there are lots of anchor tenants already 80% so it's time to come in. We all naik kereta already..

4. They failed to bring in the any big supermarket into the mall. After confirming us so many names like; Jusco, Giant, Jaya Grocer, Village Grocer.. The last one they confirmed was My Fresh. Even Posted on a few Newspapers. Still now change again to Urban Food. @,@

This month they want to collect rental. I'm planning to moveo out because It is unfair. They don't do activities and want to collect rental. No one coming in so cannot do business. I'm not wasting my time here because of some Singaporeans Kiasuness.
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Wat an embarassment to PJ, Klang Valley and Malaysia.

Moved to better malls if can...
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Wat an embarassment to PJ, Klang Valley and Malaysia.

Moved to better malls if can...
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QUOTE(StrayBullet @ Jun 2 2011, 05:38 PM)
Hi Guys. I am one of the tenants in SS2 Mall.

From my point of view, the location is good, but the management is very bad. Typical Singaporeans cant just come into Malaysia and run a business here. They don't know about the market here. Unless it's capital land we are talking about. That's a different storey.

Reasons that they fail:
1. They are holding very tightly to their rental prices Rm9-RM15/feet². They think they are Pavillion for holding on to that price. KFC wanted to come in and wanted 2 years free rental. SS2Mall said no.

2. The current management (3rd one) is not doing any activities in the weekends. The community there came in and take a look and then walks out because there's nothing to see.

3. They bluffed the current that there are lots of anchor tenants already 80% so it's time to come in. We all naik kereta already..

4. They failed to bring in the any big supermarket into the mall. After confirming us so many names like; Jusco, Giant, Jaya Grocer, Village Grocer.. The last one they confirmed was My Fresh. Even Posted on a few Newspapers. Still now change again to Urban Food. @,@

This month they want to collect rental. I'm planning to moveo out because It is unfair. They don't do activities and want to collect rental. No one coming in so cannot do business. I'm not wasting my time here because of some Singaporeans Kiasuness.
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those kiasuness think they having a great mall ..

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I just pass by on LDP and saw there building new condos beside the mall as well. I really that whole place should be ALL condos with some shops down below and not a Mall!!!

Plus SS2 Mall sounds so lame... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(StrayBullet @ Jun 2 2011, 06:38 PM)
4. They failed to bring in the any big supermarket into the mall. After confirming us so many names like; Jusco, Giant, Jaya Grocer, Village Grocer.. The last one they confirmed was My Fresh. Even Posted on a few Newspapers. Still now change again to Urban Food. @,@


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Yea and it almost follow the sequence on how you describe it.

I worked nearby and heard rumors after rumors by different people the last 2 years.

First I "heard" Jusco (from 1u) will move to ss2 mall rclxub.gif because they have a fallout with the tenant there (SHC). I only listen with a HUGE bottle of salt .

Then I heard its going to be Giant, and finally Cold Storage.

Currently I guess its just tenanted by a virtual shop called "habuk pun tarak".




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I want a Jaya Grocer and not another Giant please.
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AEON (Jusco), Isetan, Uniqlo, Daiso and Best Denki - 5 major Japanese retailers in Malaysia will be in 1Utama under one roof.

Hoorayyy!
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there is a feng shui article on the mall in Star today.........
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http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyGuide/FengShui/12382/0/0

ss2 mall looks good based on the review..
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i am a bit confused, which part is the front of the mall ?
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that place lack of anchor tenants.. bring in cinema, karaoke..surely boom.. btw, at least got Chatime which no need to queue up.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 3 2011, 09:59 AM)
Yea and it almost follow the sequence on how you describe it.

I worked nearby and heard rumors after rumors by different people the last 2 years.

First I "heard"  Jusco (from 1u) will move to ss2 mall  rclxub.gif  because they have a fallout with the tenant there (SHC). I only listen with a HUGE bottle of salt .

Then I heard its going to be Giant, and finally Cold Storage.

Currently I guess its just tenanted by a virtual shop called "habuk pun tarak".
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AEON (Jusco) will sign 9-year leasing agreement with 1U. Jusco will be in 1U at least until August 2020. Of course after that, they can always go back to the negotiation table to renew their lease.. and after 9 long years, expect Jusco to undergo renovation again after the current one.


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AEON (Jusco), Isetan, Uniqlo, Daiso and Best Denki - 5 major Japanese retailers in Malaysia will be in 1Utama under one roof.

Hoorayyy!
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I don't really see how these 5 retailers can compete one another

1) Daiso - RM5 shop
2) Best - electrical shop
3) Uniqlo - their in-house brand
4) Isetan - departmental store with up-market brands
5) Jusco - departmental store with a mix of affordable + some up-market brands & a supermarket, Wellness pharmacy, La Boheme bakery.

so in a way, instead of competing, I say they complement each other. There's something for everyone in 1U with these 5 Japanese retailers.

If there is any competition, perhaps Isetan & Parkson could be competing against each other in 1U.

Jusco & Cold Storage Supermarkets? Well, again their target market are different.

I personally prefer to shop in Jusco for both dept store & supermarket. Well, since I heard Uniqlo's pricing also affordable, I should consider this as well.

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someone mentioned Tesco is opening in The Paradigm Mall Kelana Jaya
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QUOTE(rentroom2012 @ Jun 3 2011, 02:49 PM)
http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyGuide/FengShui/12382/0/0

ss2 mall looks good based on the review..
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are they getting pay for promoting?

seriously the top management have to secure big name retailer to get into before the opening, which is crucial for attracting crowd, they failed on the beginning

i was surprise Empire Subang could make it, end up they are doing better than i think, it is facing Federal Highway hence many people will curious about it, their opening did well by securing some of the big name retailer


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Hi Guys. I am one of the tenants in SS2 Mall.

From my point of view, the location is good, but the management is very bad. Typical Singaporeans cant just come into Malaysia and run a business here. They don't know about the market here. Unless it's capital land we are talking about. That's a different storey.

Reasons that they fail:
1. They are holding very tightly to their rental prices Rm9-RM15/feet². They think they are Pavillion for holding on to that price. KFC wanted to come in and wanted 2 years free rental. SS2Mall said no.

2. The current management (3rd one) is not doing any activities in the weekends. The community there came in and take a look and then walks out because there's nothing to see.

3. They bluffed the current that there are lots of anchor tenants already 80% so it's time to come in. We all naik kereta already..

4. They failed to bring in the any big supermarket into the mall. After confirming us so many names like; Jusco, Giant, Jaya Grocer, Village Grocer.. The last one they confirmed was My Fresh. Even Posted on a few Newspapers. Still now change again to Urban Food. @,@

This month they want to collect rental. I'm planning to moveo out because It is unfair. They don't do activities and want to collect rental. No one coming in so cannot do business. I'm not wasting my time here because of some Singaporeans Kiasuness.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Jun 3 2011, 10:14 AM)
AEON (Jusco), Isetan, Uniqlo, Daiso and Best Denki - 5 major Japanese retailers in Malaysia will be in 1Utama under one roof.

Hoorayyy!
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in order to be successful, have to rely on hypermarket. look at jusco in 1 utama have been closed for renovation for few months, and just look at the people there. its have been reduced tremendously, alot of parking. since it closed for renovation

it cannot depends on the stores/shops, the stores/shop is additional items. majority of the people will go for essential items.
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Jun 6 2011, 11:18 AM)
in order to be successful, have to rely on hypermarket. look at jusco in 1 utama have been closed for renovation for few months, and just look at the people there. its have been reduced tremendously, alot of parking. since it closed for renovation

it cannot depends on the stores/shops, the stores/shop is additional items. majority of the people will go for essential items.
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Luckily for 1U, there is still some crowd as Jusco's supermarket is still opened while renovation is ongoing.

Heard that they will close for a few days to facilitate their relocation to the new location at the end of the Old Wing prior to the reopening which is tentatively slated for August 22.
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see hoy chan talks about 1Utama in newspaper today...

1 more hotel and 2 more office towers to be built....
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I'd give 1 year free rental to a big anchor like Jusco, Cold Storage, even Jaya Grocer just to get things going!

It's confirmed that Urban Food will be the Anchor tenant, saw a banner from Tropicana City Mall towards SS2.

Also confirmed here:
http://sstwomall.com.my/shop-directory/

From the banner, it looks like a 50 cents supermarket.
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QUOTE(urb7 @ Jun 8 2011, 07:38 PM)
I'd give 1 year free rental to a big anchor like Jusco, Cold Storage, even Jaya Grocer just to get things going!

It's confirmed that Urban Food will be the Anchor tenant, saw a banner from Tropicana City Mall towards SS2.

Also confirmed here:
http://sstwomall.com.my/shop-directory/

From the banner, it looks like a 50 cents supermarket.
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will those big guys come in even with 1 year rental???

they spend millions to start operations there.
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SS2 mall will benefit from the phase two of the road upgrade project from Jaran Harapan to Sprint Highway.

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“The project is being carried out in phases to ease congestion. Phase Two of the project is expected to start in March next year,” she said.

The first phase, costing RM4.2mil, also includes installing traffic lights at the T-junction of Jalan Harapan and Jalan 19/8.

“An additional lane will be added to both the roads, as well as to Jalan 19/1 and Jalan Universiti leading to the roundabout.

The second phase to link Jalan Harapan to Sprint Highway would cost RM5.3mil.



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SS2 mall will benefit from the phase two of the road upgrade project from Jaran Harapan to Sprint Highway.

The Star
“The project is being carried out in phases to ease congestion. Phase Two of the project is expected to start in March next year,” she said.

The first phase, costing RM4.2mil, also includes installing traffic lights at the T-junction of Jalan Harapan and Jalan 19/8.

“An additional lane will be added to both the roads, as well as to Jalan 19/1 and Jalan Universiti leading to the roundabout.

The second phase to link Jalan Harapan to Sprint Highway would cost RM5.3mil.
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i dont see any direct benefit from this upgrade ..
do u ever went there before ? the road to go in ss2 mall from rothman round about is good enaugh

the main reason from this project is to reduce the traffic jam at that area .. not to lure ppl go to in there
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QUOTE(stevenX @ Jun 11 2011, 10:08 AM)
i dont see any direct benefit from this upgrade ..
do u ever went there before ? the road to go in ss2 mall from rothman round about is good enaugh

the main reason from this project is to reduce the traffic jam at that area .. not to lure ppl go to in there
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yes, u r right. to reduce traffic jam is the main point. but if u think of the effect from it, with the opening of the new road, people will use the road to go to sprint from jln harapan to escape the jam at SS2. or from sprint to jln harapan, escape jam at tropicana city mall every working evening. with that traffic, people will notice this SS2 mall, increases its visibility. nod.gif

u can see from previous posts, people not even know where is the entrance of this mall, or not even know about the existance of the mall! i believe the business in that area will boom after the opening of the road. smile.gif

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Was there last week. Everything looks like it is just getting ready to open or something like that. Did not know that it was open 1/2 year ago. There are still so many vacant shop lots...
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had lunch @ uncle lim's last weekend, they complained that monthly sales only 20k (<700/day) compared to ikano & subang parade 200k/month.
only oldtown & killiney are breaking even, rest of F&B tenants are running at a loss since opening.
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i think chatime doing quite a good sales over there, i went there on evening but still have to wait for 15 - 20 mins....
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i think chatime doing quite a good sales over there, i went there on evening but still have to wait for 15 - 20 mins....
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ya, that's the only one which has a queue.
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I driven into SS2 mall for the first time 2 days ago for a late dinner (roadside parking full as expected). First impression upon driving up their spiral ramp into parking lot is "WTF! who designed this part of the building?" .

Needs to be really careful while traversing it. I saw alot of deep lines /scratch marks on the wall (some aligned with the height of the rear car mirror) , most be poor drivers who scratched their car (rear mirror) while driving in. This is crazy.

Conclusion: if there's NO specific reason at all, I will never go into that mall.



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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 22 2011, 02:03 PM)
I driven into SS2 mall for the first time 2 days ago for a late dinner (roadside parking full as expected). First impression upon driving up their spiral ramp into parking lot is "WTF! who designed this part of the building?" .

Needs to be really careful while traversing it. I saw alot of deep lines /scratch marks on the wall (some aligned with the height of the rear car mirror) , most be poor drivers who scratched their car (rear mirror) while driving in.  This is crazy.

Conclusion: if there's NO specific reason at all, I will never go into that mall.
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 22 2011, 03:03 PM)
I driven into SS2 mall for the first time 2 days ago for a late dinner (roadside parking full as expected). First impression upon driving up their spiral ramp into parking lot is "WTF! who designed this part of the building?" .

Needs to be really careful while traversing it. I saw alot of deep lines /scratch marks on the wall (some aligned with the height of the rear car mirror) , most be poor drivers who scratched their car (rear mirror) while driving in.  This is crazy.

Conclusion: if there's NO specific reason at all, I will never go into that mall.
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Actually most malls are like that. The developer will try to maximise the built-up.
unless you go to MidValley - gardens, then the ram is very wide biggrin.gif
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i just stay at working distant.
Bad management, no good marketing to plan and pull big name tenant and customers.
If they still maintain same attitude, sure die.

My suggestion:
1. Cinema - mini cinema also never mind.
2. Plan well for the open air foyer. Put 1 row all with restaurant, then another roll with pubs, bar. With good food and drink place, ppl don't care much the location.
3. The worst case is make it a night life center entertainment center: KTV, SPA center, Disco, Night Club ,etc. Those ppl will like it to be at non famous place so less chance to be seen by relatives, colleagues, in-law, etc... doh.gif

or... last just empty it and make it a big play ground for paint ball!!!
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i just stay at working distant.
Bad management, no good marketing to plan and pull big name tenant and customers.
If they still maintain same attitude, sure die.

My suggestion:
1. Cinema - mini cinema also never mind.
2. Plan well for the open air foyer. Put 1 row all with restaurant, then another roll with pubs, bar. With good food and drink place, ppl don't care much the location.
3. The worst case is make it a night life center entertainment center: KTV, SPA center, Disco, Night Club ,etc. Those ppl will like it to be at non famous place so less chance to be seen by relatives, colleagues, in-law, etc...  doh.gif

or... last just empty it and make it a big play ground for paint ball!!!
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cant have pub open air or disco. its a residential area and resident complain kao kao
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biggrin.gif i just went there last week.. well, seriously, besides the kopitiam and cafes...the other shops are kinda need icon_question.gif situation...

laugh.gif but... good place to yamcha la... quiet and peaceful rclxms.gif
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cant have pub open air or disco. its a residential area and resident complain kao kao
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before opening, the leasing was done by dtz nawawi for about 2 years.. they did promise heavens and earth on prospective tenants just to nail other tenants in.. in the end, it's a waiting game for all the tenants to see who open first who open next.. my company delayed opening for more than a year saving us rentals of hundreds of thousands due to the tidak-apa attitude of the management, but finally lawyer letter come no choice have to open la, making losses of tens over thousand a month..

sstwo is now managed by cbre, the same company which manages sg wang)

(by the way, the original team, marketing and leasing, working on the sstwo mall leasing have all resigned.... the same scenario for pavilion, who fired most of the pioneer team before the mall opened 30 jan 2008)

empire was all the while by retail network (which also does the leasing for 1u, and now paradigm, so u can expect paradigm to have almost similar tenants as 1u, save for supermarket, and no TESCO isn't the supermarket.)

IMHO, the mall is really a failure.. they haven't learn the rule of location location location? In reply to someone, the front entrance is actually going in from the rothmans roundabout/traffic light. The facade facing the ss2 houses, is actually the back entrance. Their missing link, which they are supposed to build, connects the mall to Damansara Intan which goes out to Sprint highway beside Tropicana mall, which till now, haven't been built yet despite promising tenants 2 years ago.
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-lack of advertisement
-location is kinda deep
-no one of my friends heard of ss2 mall (from cheras), but all are well-informed of all other malls in PJ etc..
-the place is boring can i say? ive enter it once and can only find those shop selling household stuffs.. only f&b that caught my eyes is chatime lol. Compared to viva mall in cheras, its only launched nearly 1 year and been highly anticipated. much credits goes to the variety of foods there.
-no cinema=no teenagers like me
-too many vacant shoplots, imo a mall shouldnt make a launch if vacancy is like 50%, leaves a bad impression on first shoppers.

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oh dear, was there even a launch?
the place is indeed boring, nothing to see. its practically like a kedai runcit, but bigger in size. go in, buy stuff, go out. all under 5 minute.
even the commercial ss2 area has more stuff to see
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oh dear, was there even a launch?
the place is indeed boring, nothing to see. its practically like a kedai runcit, but bigger in size. go in, buy stuff, go out. all under 5 minute.
even the commercial ss2 area has more stuff to see
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Small mall in Malaysia is not popular, should learn more from our neighbor Singapore, all the malls big or small there are crowded because most of the time it is located on top of MRT station. Malaysia only have one mall directly on top of LRT Station, Avenue K is not doing well either. Poor planning ?
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Has the new management done anything different from the old one in order to pull in crowd?

Quite sad, ss2 is supposed to be one of the popular parts of PJ district, if I am not wrong........

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Has the new management done anything different from the old one in order to pull in crowd?

Quite sad, ss2 is supposed to be one of the popular parts of PJ district, if I am not wrong........
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that was 20 yrs ago during the 1990s... good luck to investors there...
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Been there 5 or 6 months ago, nothing much to see or shop, now, after read the posts here, I think I will stick to 1U better.
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went there just last weekend. i found the place only by accident. when i saw the row of restaurants, i decided to stop for dinner. My fren said their parking similar to midvalley parking. have to drive carefully inside the parking area.

Anyway, there is basically nothing much to see except for foods. Lucky for us, coz we found a nice place to eat pork burger there happy.gif. For me.... i will definitely go back there... when i wan to eat pork burger. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(madcow1 @ Sep 14 2011, 04:00 PM)
Small mall in Malaysia is not popular, should learn more from our neighbor Singapore, all the malls big or small there are crowded because most of the time it is located on top of MRT station. Malaysia only have one mall directly on top of LRT Station, Avenue K is not doing well either. Poor planning ?
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http://sstwomall.com.my/about-us/

Although the mother company is Prudential Financial Inc of the United States.

Pramerica Real Estate Investors (Asia) Pte Ltd. seems to be run by Singaporean.

In other words, it's the product of Singaporean.
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I feel that SS2 Mall should be designed as a neighbourhood mall, in my opinion it is currently too big for that area. A bit too ambitious.

In terms of size, it should be something like the Centre Point in BU, then I think it will do much better.

The developer should start with that size, but allow for future expansion. Limit the spaces in the beginning and make it always look "crowded". Crowd attracts crowd, this strategy should work in that community.
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I live nearby there. The bigest reason for the failure i think is the accessibility.

1. If drive from jln uni, we need to go in from behind. The road suck, lots of holes and traffic jam!!

2. If drive from sea park or kelana jaya, need to drive through the car-parked area, pass few traffic lights and small roads all the way.

3. The street in front of it is the suckest, THREE BUMPS for a <1km street, somemore the customers of one of the Chinese Restaurant (beside 7-11) always park their cars beside the road making it more car-packed.

4. Too close to residential area, if it really become 'hot' , ppl living there will have traffic jam nightmare when driving home.


Added on September 17, 2011, 12:15 pmLately there are road contruction around there...beside ss2 mall, beside ameera, behind ss2 mall, those are the shortcut i use daily.

Few days ago in the night, i was driving home and accidentally "bump" into one hole (NOT A SMALL ONE!) with 30km/h +-. So sakit hati to my car....What the phack!

Hope the construction guys dont leave the holes behind, and always put any sign beside the road where there're holes!

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I stay within 3 minutes walk. Nowadaysevery weekend i will walk there to buy grocery or bread from bread story, tutti fruity, old town, caring whichis pretty convenient. I find it sufficient. Of course we cannot compare it to places where we can shop for zara, gap.

I am now tempted to join the gym there also...
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May I know if there is any outlet serving western or japanese food in the mall?

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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Sep 14 2011, 06:27 PM)
went there just last weekend. i found the place only by accident. when i saw the row of restaurants, i decided to stop for dinner. My fren said their parking similar to midvalley parking. have to drive carefully inside the parking area.

Anyway, there is basically nothing much to see except for foods. Lucky for us, coz we found a nice place to eat pork burger there happy.gif. For me.... i will definitely go back there... when i wan to eat pork burger. laugh.gif
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Ninja Joe's? You can find them in Mid Valley and Sunway too smile.gif.

Any other Ninja Joe's around?
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Ninja Joe's?  You can find them in Mid Valley and Sunway too smile.gif.

Any other Ninja Joe's around?
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Is there really no public transport around SS2 mall? What bout the nearest bus stop?
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Is there really no public transport around SS2 mall?  What bout the nearest bus stop?
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There is bus stop in front of Ss2 Mall.

If u wanna take other bus, u can walk towards the Paris restaurant to the main road where all the bridal house are.

But my last visit to ss2 mall was last sunday where lots of cars parked outside.

i purposely go there to buy chattime only lol~
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Ninja Joe's?  You can find them in Mid Valley and Sunway too smile.gif.

Any other Ninja Joe's around?
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its not ninja joe's and its way better then ninja joe... IMO

i google and i found this link > SS2 mall pork burger

i went there last weekend and they seems to be doing something there n it block the entrance into the carpark. it cause me to turn round n round there b4 i finally saw a small sign which direct me to their back entrance shakehead.gif

PS: i assume the side along "new Paris" is the main entrance
PS: i took the big oblong burger which use mantao as the bun laugh.gif

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SS2 mall is not a bad place for flocks that live near there. But it wouldn't bloom into second curve. most likely another center point.
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should have built more condos instead...
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hi..does anyone knows weekend car park rate at ss2 mall? roadside parking is illegal there?
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actually find that ss2 mall is ok..kinda like a community mall, like empire subang gallery actually.

the last time i went, only about 50% occupancy, but it was nice to have a bookshop (i think it's times) to sit and read as not so much ppl.

quite nice if u stay along ss2, section19, section17 stretch.
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good for people staying around there, all the areas around it is residential, and there is no big highways to cross...
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good for people staying around there, all the areas around it is residential, and there is no big highways to cross...
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The place is too small to be even called a mall
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uncle lim cafe & tutti fruitti gulung tikar.
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Im not sure you are trolling or not, but have been actually inside SS2 mall ? or just hopping into the bandwagon with zero knowledge for the sake of increasing post count.

Give credit to where its due. SS2 mall is averaged sized neighbour mall (still a mall nevertheless) plague with poor acessibility, among others. If its located in somewhere more strategic.. half its problems will be solved.


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Im not sure you are trolling or not, but have been actually inside SS2 mall ? or just hopping into the bandwagon with zero knowledge for the sake of increasing post count.

Give credit to where its due. SS2 mall is averaged sized neighbour mall (still a mall nevertheless) plague with poor acessibility, among others. If its located in somewhere more strategic.. half its problems will be solved.
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it might help if there's a hypermarket like giant or tesco there.
also cinema is a must.
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uncle lim cafe & tutti fruitti gulung tikar.
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they even hv tutti fruitti?i dunno also sweat.gif
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I frequent this place often, although i do not actually goes there, as my relative stay nearby there. I find it to be quiet decent, but the design i don't like...very hard to find the shops.

But what i wanna complain is the parking.....the place is not fully occupied, yet want to start charging people for car park...doh.gif...Even CentrePoint gives you free parking on weekends and after 6pm on weekdays. This noob mall wanna start charging people so soon...haiz....that's why many people park outside...more convenient and no need to pay.
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We are quite disappointed with SS2 Mall. One fine day we saw the newspaper, a newly opened electrical appliances shop opened... so we went there to look out for good deals... but turning around can't find any alternative carpark entrance as the existing carpark entrance was under road construction.. they blocked it and no proper road sign to show us the way to the alternative entrance... Since outside parkings are also full and illegal anyway, we just gave up and left... with the residential population support, if the mgmt manage it properly, i think more tenants will come and attract more outside ppl.. Anyhow, they fail to manage it...

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 6 2011, 08:53 AM)
it might help if there's a hypermarket like giant or tesco there.
also cinema is a must.
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Cinema very competitive also cause tropicana mall, 1u so near. Hyper mall would help to boost the crowd. Latest example first subang. The owner there are smiling with the anchor tenant there smile.gif
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maybe the advert billboard leading to SS2 Mall does not look 1Malaysia. 1Chinese maybe hahaha
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The parking space is the worst of all.

Try driving MPV on the ramp up, you have to be very careful.

Dunno why the Singaporean owner cant think of slightly bigger driving space. doh.gif
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QUOTE(RayKazansky @ Oct 6 2011, 06:03 PM)
The parking space is the worst of all.

Try driving MPV on the ramp up, you have to be very careful.

Dunno why the Singaporean owner cant think of slightly bigger driving space.  doh.gif
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Maybe his architect drive a kancil?
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Pass by this mall again 2 days ago. Judgement: Still a failure.. Enuf said.
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QUOTE(RayKazansky @ Oct 6 2011, 06:03 PM)
The parking space is the worst of all.

Try driving MPV on the ramp up, you have to be very careful.

Dunno why the Singaporean owner cant think of slightly bigger driving space.  doh.gif
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QUOTE(RayKazansky @ Oct 6 2011, 06:03 PM)
The parking space is the worst of all.

Try driving MPV on the ramp up, you have to be very careful.

Dunno why the Singaporean owner cant think of slightly bigger driving space.  doh.gif
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just back from SS2 mall yest, the architect should get fired for that small ramp design, the wall is full of scratch mark from many car, even HDB flat in singapore has better space than that ramp. Anyhow, they have another parking entrance at the left side which have better space. so always turn left while u approaching the parking.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 6 2011, 12:04 PM)
I frequent this place often, although i do not actually goes there, as my relative stay nearby there. I find it to be quiet decent, but the design i don't like...very hard to find the shops.

But what i wanna complain is the parking.....the place is not fully occupied, yet want to start charging people for car park...doh.gif...Even CentrePoint gives you free parking on weekends and after 6pm on weekdays. This noob mall wanna start charging people so soon...haiz....that's why many people park outside...more convenient and no need to pay.
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Everything there is a total flop from what business, food etc. time will tell when it will be a white elephant or will closed down.

Just wondering, business there as can see will not bring any profit. alot of vacant shops and alot of redundant outlets.

wasting time and $$ to open business there. nothing to buy and expensive. goes once will not go the second time. just wondering, those business open, will generate any profit or loss in this kind of environment. Open business there is a waste of time or not productivity. NO future at all

Waste alot of $$ decorating/interior design in some of the shop. rental/month wages eventually kills the business. Even have $$ dont waste it like that.
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was told that the same operator for ss2mall will be running the retails of Shaftbarry@cyberjaya....

hmm.....
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 9 2011, 05:18 PM)
just back from SS2 mall yest, the architect should get fired for that small ramp design, the wall is full of scratch mark from many car, even HDB flat in singapore has better space than that ramp. Anyhow, they have another parking entrance at the left side which have better space. so always turn left while u approaching the parking.
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probably they want to maximize the floor space in mall and sacrifice the space for car park.
I think it is a stupid decision by the owner and achitect.

Look at Tropicana City Mall, large parking space and light assist to search for parking, and the parking is cheap enough. I wonder how do the management able to survive with low visiting customer flowing in.
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Look at Tropicana City Mall, large parking space and light assist to search for parking, and the parking is cheap enough. I wonder how do the management able to survive with low visiting customer flowing in.
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Need a more time to get full tenancy. Give them time la......
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The only business there that wont close down is OLD TOWN !!!

Always go there for drink and most of the time crowded.
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i wander what was the rent there...cant be failing since SS2 was so crowded and full of business at their shops around.....
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rent is expensive i supposed

but they need higher profile tenants there, perhaps a mega supermarket known as Pasaraya Rakyat 1Msia... hahaha

bring in a medical centre operator will be good also
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agreed....should invite some big brands like giant, jusco, grocer village or house depot etc to be there...so the crowd will start coming in
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Post office, banks, tm point / maxis / celcom / digi service centre....are good crowd puller as well

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yup....a college or so would be added advantage too.
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I wonder how long this mall can sustain .......
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I always wonder when I see all these new shoplots and malls coming up who is going to fill them up.


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I only go there for celebrity fitness..
quite empty at night time
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new atria shopping coming up. better look fast tenant for ss2 mall else their is no hope. alot of white elephants
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Secret Recipe closed for renovation works....will open later?
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no matter how it renovate, if the place/feng shui is not ong, also is a waste of $$. unless the company have plenty of $$ to spare/ waste
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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 9 2011, 11:28 AM)
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Ini shopping mall ... sudah mau mati katak.. semua enant cuma tunggu nasib business terbengkalai.. kih kih kih....
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is a "dead zone" with mid valley near by and 1U...
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can rent it as hostel for bangla
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Bangla.. maybe convert it into a bangla shopping mall.. will help.. call it the Dhaka Mall... with bangla ebtertainement and food outlet... sure one and only in P.J.. must be crowded one.. kih kih kih
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Bangla.. maybe convert it into a bangla shopping mall.. will help.. call it the Dhaka Mall... with bangla ebtertainement and food outlet... sure one and only in P.J.. must be crowded one.. kih kih kih
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since when ss2 flooded with bangla?
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I believe doing promotion and finding large/big tenants can help... example giving 1 years free or 50% of rental might attract more tenants smile.gif
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I believe doing promotion and finding large/big tenants can help... example giving 1 years free or 50% of rental might attract more tenants smile.gif
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stupid management
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I believe doing promotion and finding large/big tenants can help... example giving 1 years free or 50% of rental might attract more tenants smile.gif
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this might attract chap pa lang tenants and make the place a heaven for banglas
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i remember i came across a post mths ago where kfc was asking for discount on rental but was rejected by the management

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this might attract chap pa lang tenants and make the place a heaven for banglas
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Of coz need to filter the potential one, this is management job to handle.
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Of coz need to filter the potential one, this is management job to handle.
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after filtering, there is none lor.
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make it CHATIME OFFICIAL MALLSTORE

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FULLHouse opened d?
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FULLHouse opened d?
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yes open liao , main entarance can see liao
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Wah.... I thought I want to move to SS2 mall but after reading this thread, I 'll stay away man. Its crazy rental too at RM9-15 per sq ft. ? A bank or a porch restaurant may be able to pay that kind of rent.

This mall will die of natural death.
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citta mall ain't doing too well too.
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The things that are sold in Urban food which is the Supermarket in the SS2 mall are way more exp than what you can get from 99 Speedmart, 7 Eleven, Tesco or anywhere else.

The customer's lounge of the gym looks good though.


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I just google Citta Mall, and saw it. Seems very much better than SS2 Mall. Where is this Citta Mall, how to get there ? Wonder what the rental there.
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QUOTE(lenzor @ Mar 16 2012, 12:00 PM)
I just google Citta Mall, and saw it. Seems very much better than SS2 Mall. Where is this Citta Mall, how to get there ? Wonder what the rental there.
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If I can suggest, from customer point of view, on where to open shop, open la in plaza pantai (bangsar trade centre). I work here and I know atlas (previous owner/management) is under liquidation but I heard things are moving now.

here so many office yet not so much shop. we have to go to amcorp mall la, tm la (few shop also), ride car to bangsar village la, go to midvalley etc. but we have 1 hour lunch time only so not enough time.

can pls more restaurants/ ladies shop open here. here only have 1 salon, I have to wait and make early appointment to wash hair tongue.gif

Been to SS2 mall a year ago when it had just opened and another time last month.

A major disappointment. Except for the nice gym, dont think that mall will thrive.
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Personally, i feel the SS2 Mall and Citta Mall is strategically located but if u were to compare this 2 to Empire, U actually cant find any major differences between them apart from their location. But how come Empire is doing so well, even after the gas leak incident ? I feel it is down to the building design component (Mixed development for Empire, commercial retail for SS2 and Citta) and the management/leasing team.
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QUOTE(Naznaz @ Mar 16 2012, 01:26 PM)
If I can suggest, from customer point of view, on where to open shop, open la in plaza pantai (bangsar trade centre). I work here and I know atlas (previous owner/management) is under liquidation but I heard things are moving now.

here so many office yet not so much shop. we have to go to amcorp mall la, tm la (few shop also), ride car to bangsar village la, go to midvalley etc. but we have 1 hour lunch time only so not enough time.

can pls more restaurants/ ladies shop open here. here only have 1 salon, I have to wait and make early appointment to wash hair  tongue.gif

Been to SS2 mall a year ago when it had just opened and another time last month.

A major disappointment. Except for the nice gym, dont think that mall will thrive.
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Maybe the gym should take over all the mall and become the biggest gym facility in PJ.
May need to have the gym to sign 10 years agreement with SS2 mall so that SS2 mall don't get greedy and start to charge high rental when the visitor gets more.
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i heard library is going to open in ss2mall
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i heard library is going to open in ss2mall
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Library??


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SS2 Mall seems really quiet when I went there for a friend's wedding dinner. The restaurant is call "Dynasty Dragon", I should say it is a total disaster. When ask for fork and spoon, the waitress say no fork, only given spoon. Food is only so-so and cold when it is served, some aunty waitress can be seen eating those left over food at their serving station which is just right beside me. They also bring plastic bag to ta pao at the station too, too lazy to change plates as well.

I'm not against wasting of food, they can do this in the kitchen but not in full view of customers, such service totally uncalled for.
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QUOTE(Xccess @ Mar 25 2012, 02:49 PM)
SS2 Mall seems really quiet when I went there for a friend's wedding dinner. The restaurant is call "Dynasty Dragon", I should say it is a total disaster. When ask for fork and spoon, the waitress say no fork, only given spoon. Food is only so-so and cold when it is served, some aunty waitress can be seen eating those left over food at their serving station which is just right beside me. They also bring plastic bag to ta pao at the station too, too lazy to change plates as well.

I'm not against wasting of food, they can do this in the kitchen but not in full view of customers, such service totally uncalled for.
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QUOTE(Xccess @ Mar 25 2012, 02:49 PM)
SS2 Mall seems really quiet when I went there for a friend's wedding dinner. The restaurant is call "Dynasty Dragon", I should say it is a total disaster. When ask for fork and spoon, the waitress say no fork, only given spoon. Food is only so-so and cold when it is served, some aunty waitress can be seen eating those left over food at their serving station which is just right beside me. They also bring plastic bag to ta pao at the station too, too lazy to change plates as well.

I'm not against wasting of food, they can do this in the kitchen but not in full view of customers, such service totally uncalled for.
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there's hardly proper service during wedding dinners, only hotels do not disappoint so much. i eat at dynasty dragon on a normal day, food is okay
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I believe is something new about Library because its call e-library. Sound yeng. At the area nearby the mini car game.

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ss2 mall until now also no improvement, not aggresive management, half dead. should close it and not to waste time. invest in other things better. paradigm mall alot of people. business very ong
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ss2 mall until now also no improvement, not aggresive management, half dead. should close it and not to waste time. invest in other things better. paradigm mall alot of people. business very ong
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paradigm mall a lot of people ? shocking.gif maybe i went there during week days...but seems like quite quiet to me though.
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paradigm mall a lot of people ?  shocking.gif  maybe i went there during week days...but seems like quite quiet to me though.
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paradigm mall quite crowded... i went there on saturday...not sure weekday ..... but on weekend it is quite ong..... consider quite good , 80% occupancy rate for tenant...many new restaurant...new tenant....look like mini mid valley....
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location paradigm mall sure > ss2 mall
SS2 mall so near to tropicana city mall , tcm do have GSC , ss2 mall got nothing .


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Urban Food, the supermart located at lower ground, closed down recently. There's rumours going around that Giant will be taking their place in the near future...erm, good luck to these people I say
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Ya, throw in M*diva, L*brary, OT or B**r Factory, sure the place will spark.
The beer/alcohol business is one of the best (unfortunately), you can drink up until a dozen of bottles. Only need to pit stop at the toilet.
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the main problems with SS2 mall are without Cinema, and hypermarket.

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SS2 Mall seems really quiet when I went there for a friend's wedding dinner. The restaurant is call "Dynasty Dragon", I should say it is a total disaster. When ask for fork and spoon, the waitress say no fork, only given spoon. Food is only so-so and cold when it is served, some aunty waitress can be seen eating those left over food at their serving station which is just right beside me. They also bring plastic bag to ta pao at the station too, too lazy to change plates as well.

I'm not against wasting of food, they can do this in the kitchen but not in full view of customers, such service totally uncalled for.
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 19 2012, 11:33 AM)
the main problems with SS2 mall are without Cinema, and hypermarket.
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I have been The e-Library, look like not happen like the curve one......
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I think the finishing touch on the ss2 mall is so much better than paradigm.. Paradigm is like a piece of cheap construction.. From the carpark to the entrance to the flooring.. Omg.. I help build shopping complexes.. Paradigm is one of the worst seen tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 19 2012, 11:33 AM)
the main problems with SS2 mall are without Cinema, and hypermarket.
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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Jun 19 2012, 06:29 PM)
I think the finishing touch on the ss2 mall is so much better than paradigm.. Paradigm is like a piece of cheap construction.. From the carpark to the entrance to the flooring.. Omg.. I help build shopping complexes.. Paradigm is one of the worst seen tongue.gif
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thats y wct is rich

they know its location is alr very good - so they save on building materials, yet ppl still crowd there..

i have to say their tenant mix is reasonably good

library? who stil goes to library? even most ot outlets are beginning to lose crowds

ss2 mall will die, no matter what u bring in.

except open toto, 4d karaoke with free flow prcs, viets etc etc...

then maybe have hope can live on

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QUOTE(special mobile number @ Jun 19 2012, 07:59 PM)
true also..
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used to have a small mini hypermarket (forgot the name already). But for about a month it is closed (not sure temporary or permanent closure). i often visit ss2 mall and the most got business there is the gym. the place got a times bookstore already. i have seen some wedding dinners take place at the restaurant at the top.
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So sad to see such mall to fall due to bad management! Good location, good number of resident, college, office. This should bring in crowd like Jaya1 crowd.

I actually go ss2 mall quite often, because of all the new pub. There is:-

e-library
another library....but with lot more entertainment, soft dart, dytona, pool, even karaoke!

Paparazzi
Dance Club, been there once, nice club with lots of young hot lady~ but only during weekend tho. Weekday is quiet as shit!

Top drop
Whisky bar with good selection of whisky, they sell by glass too, so you don't have to buy the whole bottle.

BeerHive
Neighborhood pub, I particularly like this one! Cozy environment, quality drink with reasonable price, and the staff is very friendly too. If this pub open in scott garden or giza, for sure it will work very well~

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Yea. The mall is so quite if you compare with TCM & Paradigm Mall.

forget bout the shopping first, the management really got ALOT of works to do .

BUT why i love to go to SStwo mall is the have a couple of drinks + watch LIVE football matches + electronic darts game with my friends at BeerHive. Not sure whether u guys heard bout it before....
Their facebook page : http://www.facebook.com/beerhive

Here is a article of SStwo Mall drinking scene.
http://beerbeer.org/?p=12400

They serve G.A.B products , whisky, wine, brandy and Absinthe with a very reasonable price. 6 full pints Guinness only for rm90++ ..

Actually i personally think what SStwo Mall is better than TCM and Paradigm mall is , SStwo mall has a Beautiful Alfresco Outdoor Area.
It's great atmosphere to hangout with friends.. BeerHive also has a big projector screen for all the football fans like me XD

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Is it easy to find empty car parking biggrin.gif
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Yeah, but the entrance suck! i rather park at the roadside.


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Yea. The mall is so quite if you compare with TCM & Paradigm Mall.

forget bout the shopping first, the management really got ALOT of works to do .

BUT why i love to go to SStwo mall is the have a couple of drinks + watch LIVE football matches + electronic darts game with my friends at BeerHive. Not sure whether u guys heard bout it before....
Their facebook page : http://www.facebook.com/beerhive

Here is a article of SStwo Mall drinking scene.
http://beerbeer.org/?p=12400

They serve G.A.B products , whisky, wine, brandy and Absinthe with a very reasonable price. 6 full pints Guinness only for rm90++ ..

Actually i personally think what SStwo Mall is better than TCM and Paradigm mall is , SStwo mall has a Beautiful Alfresco Outdoor Area.
It's great atmosphere to hangout with friends.. BeerHive also has a big projector screen for all the football fans like me XD
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Wah that was alot of info! must be big supporter of beerhive!

By the way, what is G.A.B? and absinthe....hmmm sound familiar leh....any idea?

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QUOTE(Ahkek @ Aug 2 2012, 05:16 PM)
Yeah, but the entrance suck! i rather park at the roadside.


Added on August 2, 2012, 5:30 pm

Wah that was alot of info! must be big supporter of beerhive!

By the way, what is G.A.B? and absinthe....hmmm sound familiar leh....any idea?
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G.A.B. stands for Guinness Anchor Beer??? haha...... actually i duno
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QUOTE(Ahkek @ Aug 2 2012, 05:16 PM)
Yeah, but the entrance suck! i rather park at the roadside.


Added on August 2, 2012, 5:30 pm

Wah that was alot of info! must be big supporter of beerhive!

By the way, what is G.A.B? and absinthe....hmmm sound familiar leh....any idea?
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Added on August 2, 2012, 5:46 pmSS2 Mall management really Bad , but i love the Alfesco area...dam nice, Beerhive located ther are awesome , People they are nice , beer are fresh , reasonable price ... i go ther 3 times a week ...
Just awesome


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G.A.B stands for Guinness Anchor Berhad .
Means they serving Beer like Guinness, Tiger, Heineken, Strongbow and Kilkenny.
Absinthe is some shots contains 68% ... crazy !
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Ask the damn management to get a Wealth Vase from the kechara... It will improve the business as around the area having so f***ing many houses
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Not easy...eggs and chickens issue.

retailers: no crowd = no business; wait and see

shoppers: no good retailers = nothing to see; next station

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Not easy...eggs and chickens issue.

retailers: no crowd = no business; wait and see

shoppers: no good retailers = nothing to see; next station
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If can get cinema in. maybe more crowd.
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You're totally right! I was thinking the same thing with you. Cinema and Amusement centre/ bowling can help to attract people, and rent to Harvey Norman/SenQ/Popular at very low price.
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SS2 mall is so near to Tropicana Mall, Jaya One, Jaya 33, Digital Mall.
So on earth ppl want to go SS2 mall?
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SS2 mall should offer free rental for the first 6 months with condition of at least 2 years rental contract.
I believe could attract some to set up retail business there.
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i have client looking a house facing main road ss2/72, near ss2 mall, for cCommercial use. call lucas 016-3400188 if you are the house owner, and wanted to let go . tq
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Who not happy with the building layout and carpark design , tomorrow the ss2 mall architects will giving talk about the building concept . Go there question them 😃
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Who not happy with the building layout and carpark design , tomorrow the ss2 mall architects will giving talk about the building concept . Go there question them 😃
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Time?

I wonder is it due to not allowed to build highrise. Seems like waste this land use for mall only.
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Till now still not much crowd eh? hmm.gif Paradigm mall the most successful 1. Just open and boom...so crowded!
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Till now still not much crowd eh? hmm.gif Paradigm mall the most successful 1. Just open and boom...so crowded!
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The failure of this mall:

(1) Targetted nearby consumers only. Even the name of mall tell u. SS2.
(2) Location : not in Main road frontage. Not outside traffic coming.
(3) There is nothing to shout about.

Veri tough indeed
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QUOTE(ace77 @ Sep 15 2012, 02:15 AM)
The failure of this mall:

(1) Targetted nearby consumers only. Even the name of mall tell u. SS2.
(2) Location : not in Main road frontage. Not outside traffic coming.
(3) There is nothing to shout about.

Veri tough indeed
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But the mall seems very big, if target nearby consumers only no need so big ler blink.gif . Design so nice somemore.
Or wrong planning again?
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But the mall seems very big, if target nearby consumers only no need so big ler blink.gif . Design so nice somemore.
Or wrong planning again?
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Wrong marketing also I guess, very few non-Pj folks know about it.
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they fail because jusco couldn't move in
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they fail because jusco couldn't move in
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the floorplan like not suitable for jusco or any big anchor tenant also...

SS2 is either old ppl or low budget youngsters area, dunno why they build such a mall
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Heard KL Mutual had moved in and occupied quite a sizeable floor space. Apparently, Econsave will be taking over supermarket space.

See if the mall will be more lively....



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the problem is the owner dont bother to promo it.
they are cash rich and got other priority issue to handle.

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Wisma Atria is proposing to add Cineplex to its building plan. If the plan is approve, it would means that SS2 mall would have almost no chance to secure another cinema operator.
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Wisma Atria is proposing to add Cineplex to its building plan. If the plan is approve, it would means that SS2 mall would have almost no chance to secure another cinema operator.
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Atria Shopping Gallery. The former Atria Shopping Centre in Damansara Jaya.

A major cineplex operator is in talks. I believe the upcoming shopping centre will be pretty chic and trendy in terms of offerings.

Nearby upcoming malls:

- Atria Shopping Gallery
- Uptown Shopping Mall
- Glomac Damansara Mall

- Empire City Thematic Malls
- Empire Damansara Retail Centre

- Nucleus Shopping Centre, Mutiara Damansara

- The Strand Mall Kota Damansara (opening end of 2013)
- Tropicana Gardens Shopping Mall
- Sunway Nexis Retail Shoppes
- Avenue Street Mall by Mah Sing (abit far off but targets KD market)

- I believe there'll be a mall mixed dev next to Cascades KD/Encorp Garden Office (vacant land)

- Jaya Shopping Gallery (managed by Mapletree, same as Vivocity Singapore)
- Pacific Star Retail Mall, Sec. 13 PJ
- A mall for F&N City Sec. 13 PJ
- The extension of Jaya 33 (opening soon with first Kampachi Restaurant in PJ)

- Plaza Kelana Jaya P4 Shopping Centre (vacant land)
- A large-mall for Icon City PJ

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OMG !! outside commercial shop lot all die liao. no customer than no tenant .
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QUOTE(accetera @ Feb 20 2013, 02:01 AM)
Atria Shopping Gallery.  The former Atria Shopping Centre in Damansara Jaya.

A major cineplex operator is in talks. I believe the upcoming shopping centre will be pretty chic and trendy in terms of offerings.

Nearby upcoming malls:

- Atria Shopping Gallery
- Uptown Shopping Mall
- Glomac Damansara Mall

- Empire City Thematic Malls
- Empire Damansara Retail Centre

- Nucleus Shopping Centre, Mutiara Damansara

- The Strand Mall Kota Damansara (opening end of 2013)
- Tropicana Gardens Shopping Mall
- Sunway Nexis Retail Shoppes
- Avenue Street Mall by Mah Sing (abit far off but targets KD market)

- I believe there'll be a mall mixed dev next to Cascades KD/Encorp Garden Office (vacant land)

- Jaya Shopping Gallery (managed by Mapletree, same as Vivocity Singapore)
- Pacific Star Retail Mall, Sec. 13 PJ
- A mall for F&N City Sec. 13 PJ
- The extension of Jaya 33 (opening soon with first Kampachi Restaurant in PJ)

- Plaza Kelana Jaya P4 Shopping Centre (vacant land)
- A large-mall for Icon City PJ
Still waiting for more info from you about that mega mall in KL which is supposedly bigger than Mid Valley.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Feb 20 2013, 02:01 AM)
Atria Shopping Gallery.  The former Atria Shopping Centre in Damansara Jaya.

A major cineplex operator is in talks. I believe the upcoming shopping centre will be pretty chic and trendy in terms of offerings.

Nearby upcoming malls:

- Atria Shopping Gallery
- Uptown Shopping Mall
- Glomac Damansara Mall

- Empire City Thematic Malls
- Empire Damansara Retail Centre

- Nucleus Shopping Centre, Mutiara Damansara

- The Strand Mall Kota Damansara (opening end of 2013)
- Tropicana Gardens Shopping Mall
- Sunway Nexis Retail Shoppes
- Avenue Street Mall by Mah Sing (abit far off but targets KD market)

- I believe there'll be a mall mixed dev next to Cascades KD/Encorp Garden Office (vacant land)

- Jaya Shopping Gallery (managed by Mapletree, same as Vivocity Singapore)
- Pacific Star Retail Mall, Sec. 13 PJ
- A mall for F&N City Sec. 13 PJ
- The extension of Jaya 33 (opening soon with first Kampachi Restaurant in PJ)

- Plaza Kelana Jaya P4 Shopping Centre (vacant land)
- A large-mall for Icon City PJ
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 06:49 AM)
As can see the SS2 mall since it open begin of the year until now almost 1/2 a year already, the % taken up is so low, look like nobody willing to rent any of those vacant units. So many empty/vacant lots. The place looks like a failure.

nobody wants to rent and no renovation at all in any of the lots. another white elephant.

Alot of malls and office are vacant in alot of area not only ss2 mall. Many people buy but difficult to rent out even condo/houses for investment.

maybe a glut , what do u think?
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Feb 18 2013, 01:07 PM)
the problem is the owner dont bother to promo it.
they are cash rich and got other priority issue to handle.
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Sep 15 2012, 11:16 AM)
the floorplan like not suitable for jusco or any big anchor tenant also...

SS2 is either old ppl or low budget youngsters area, dunno why they build such a mall
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are u sure ss2 is for old ppl or low budget youngeters area?


low budget? are u sure? ss2 condo most of them already price above 500 psf...this is price that low budget people can afford ah?
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Nice sharing. Looks very empty even after so long. WTF @ 2:13? They dont provide toilet?? or very poor mentality of the parent to educate the kid?
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QUOTE(Vestor @ Apr 10 2013, 10:04 AM)
Nice sharing. Looks very empty even after so long. WTF @ 2:13? They dont provide toilet?? or very poor mentality of the parent to educate the kid?
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 10 2013, 10:03 AM)
are u sure ss2 is for old ppl or low budget youngeters area?
low budget? are u sure? ss2 condo most of them already price above 500 psf...this is price that low budget people can afford ah?
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condo selling expensive doesn't mean the area not low budget mah...

you see scenaria north kiara surroundings? they sell expensive means the area high end meh?

if this part of ss2 not low budget, urban food dunnit to close shop and econsave come in lah...

where got high end condo next door is econsave wan? doh.gif
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Customer service at Chicken Pot Restaurant in this Shopping Mall is damn terrible. Better keep far away from this restaurant... .. . NO NEXT TIME!!
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alot of food outlet/ retail is closing down. many have complain and it a waste of $$ and time.

when a business is not making $$ better sell it off. not waste time

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it's empty and yet ppl complain on the food?

I wish this mall best of luck coz they will need it.
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went to SS2 mall last week with my wife. seriously the marketing team need to work hard on promoting this place.

I think econsave save the place a bit otherwise i sure senyap sunyi. Pity to all tenants. wish them luck
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QUOTE(mymy3044 @ Apr 11 2013, 12:10 AM)
Customer service at Chicken Pot Restaurant in this Shopping Mall is damn terrible. Better keep far away from this restaurant... .. . NO NEXT TIME!!
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not tp mentioned paradigm mail whooped their ass hard
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Latest casualty Times Bookshop.
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Latest casualty Times Bookshop.
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They have turned the mall into offices for Pacific Mutual and there is a college (some engineering one...forgot name). Econsave business is also good and the restauant is virtually packed every week.
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They have turned the mall into offices for Pacific Mutual and there is a college (some engineering one...forgot name). Econsave business is also good and the restauant is virtually packed every week.
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yep. the mall is catching up.
the back of the mall facing river quite alive.
the mall front facing the housing area quite dead.
they should reverse the back become the front door of the mall. much much easy access.
salah fengsui planning and facing from the start.

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yep. the mall is catching up.
the back of the mall facing river quite alive.
the mall front facing the housing area quite dead.
they should reverse the back become the front door of the mall. much much easy access.
salah fengsui planning and facing from the start.
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Inside the mall is more than half dead. The management of the mall should give at least 2 years free rental to attract tenants rather than leaving so many vacant lots. If not, it gonna be difficult to meet operating costs in the long run.

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Dec 31 2013, 05:32 PM)
They have turned the mall into offices for Pacific Mutual and there is a college (some engineering one...forgot name). Econsave business is also good and the restauant is virtually packed every week.
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Dec 31 2013, 05:45 PM)
yep. the mall is catching up.
the back of the mall facing river quite alive.
the mall front facing the housing area quite dead.
they should reverse the back become the front door of the mall. much much easy access.
salah fengsui planning and facing from the start.
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QUOTE(MaxKHOO @ Dec 31 2013, 06:52 PM)
Inside the mall is more than half dead. The management of the mall should give at least 2 years free rental to attract tenants rather than leaving so many vacant lots. If not, it gonna be difficult to meet operating costs in the long run.
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Apr 19 2011, 02:49 PM)
As can see the SS2 mall since it open begin of the year until now almost 1/2 a year already, the % taken up is so low, look like nobody willing to rent any of those vacant units. So many empty/vacant lots. The place looks like a failure.

nobody wants to rent and no renovation at all in any of the lots. another white elephant.

Alot of malls and office are vacant in alot of area not only ss2 mall. Many people buy but difficult to rent out even condo/houses for investment.

maybe a glut , what do u think?
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Old video, but unfortunately it's not any better now. Whoever said that this mall is picking up hasn't been there.
This mall needs to close, rebrand and open with new management. As it is now it will never ever prosper.


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Make it into Scott Garden? Hahaha
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This mall need a theme, like IT mall, furniture mall, cheap ladies clothing mall to make it popular. Mayb can also brand it as hobbist mall, get some cos play, puzzle shop etc
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QUOTE(Neil_Old @ May 24 2014, 11:51 PM)
Old video, but unfortunately it's not any better now. Whoever said that this mall is picking up hasn't been there.
This mall needs to close, rebrand and open with new management. As it is now it will never ever prosper.
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below are list of high potential collapse malls:
a) viva mall, loke yew
b) southgate, sg besi
c) the spark, salak south
d) 1 shamelin, maluri
e) axis atrium *both towers, pandan
f) giant mall, cheras , opposite you city
g) southcity mall, seri kembangan
h) kenanga wholesale city, kl
g) brem mall, kepong (tenants terminating tenancy)
h) ss2 mall, petaling jaya
I) giant mall, connought ucsi
j) carrefour mall, the queens avenue( opposite sunvelocity)
k)aeon, bandar mahkota cheras
l)scott gargen, klang lama
m) any more

malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions:
a) 1 almerin mall, balakong
b) setia city mall, setia alam
c) cheras sentral, cheras
d) maxim mall and residence, cheras behind cheras sentral
e) times square, kl
f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening
g) 1 south, seri kembangan
h) etc

malls poised to prosper:
a) new IOI mall, putrajaya
b) mid valley, kl
c) low yat mall( of course LYN forum too)
d)sun velocity mall
e)tesco midah
f)tesco ampang
g) 1 utama
H)the curve
I) ikano power center
j) etc

please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice..
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5 years ago Avenue K was completely dead as well, at least now they have picked up a bit. And getting some good tenants like H&M, sushi zanmai, etc.

Scott Garden successfully attracting the night crowd but I wouldn't compare SG with other malls like Tropicana/1U/MV/Paradigm/etc. SG never felt like a place where people would go for jalan-jalan (similar to Jaya1 feeling).

On the new malls side I'm skeptic towards Nexus Bangsar South. Just can't see why anyone would wanna drive there willingly unless they were already in the area. And that would be like Mid Valley only had to rely on The Gardens residents and hotel guests.



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Leasing layout Changes needed if not the mall will rotting . End up closed . F&B is important to the mall . F&B will bring the crowd .
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Poor ss2... Any improvements since last time?
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Supply > Demand. Market is at a slum right now. Ask any business people they would tell you how bad it is. Selling price and rental of these establishments are at sky high rates due to greedy developers, properties owners, real estate agents. It would be hard for business to survive this and hence nobody is taking it up. Even popular malls like Sunway Giza Mall in Kota Damansara is also facing this issue. Vacant Ground Floor shop units in their main halls are proof that not all is good now.

All in all, I would say people are still trying to dwell in a fake sense of security by thinking that the market is still thriving and doing well. Im a frontliner in sales and I can tell you market is down, really down. People seems to have no money to spend or are unwilling to spend nowadays.

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more than 70% income paid to house loan and car loan , how to spent ? thanks our great jib gor
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more than 70% income paid to house loan and car loan , how to spent ? thanks our great jib gor
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 13 2014, 01:45 PM)
Supply > Demand. Market is at a slum right now. Ask any business people they would tell you how bad it is. Selling price and rental of these establishments are at sky high rates due to greedy developers, properties owners, real estate agents. It would be hard for business to survive this and hence nobody is taking it up. Even popular malls like Sunway Giza Mall in Kota Damansara is also facing this issue. Vacant Ground Floor shop units in their main halls are proof that not all is good now.[U]

All in all, I would say people are still trying to dwell in a fake sense of security by thinking that the market is still thriving and doing well. Im a frontliner in sales and I can tell you market is down, really down. People seems to have no money to spend or are unwilling to spend nowadays.
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as far as I can see, sunway giza mall not many vacant lots since last 1.5 years. the only recent major vacancy at the moment is the former club (coccoon?) unit next to movida. as far as i can see that side quite WONG. the other square where encorp strand's new mall is a bit empty currrently. but population is booming there with the the Cascades just only coming on line.


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as far as I can see, sunway giza mall not many vacant lots since last 1.5 years. the only vacancy at the moment is the former club (coccoon?) next to movida.
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sunway gize almost full jor , new library cafe will open there ~ i always be there doing gym and drink tan gan lou liang cha , sunway nexus will come in market too. after that will have tropicana mall and MRT .
kota damansara getting crowed compare other
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QUOTE(LTG @ Oct 13 2014, 03:20 PM)
sunway gize almost full jor , new library cafe will open there ~  i always be there doing gym and drink tan gan lou liang cha , sunway nexus will come in market too. after that will have tropicana mall and MRT .
kota damansara getting crowed compare other
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KD is becoming a WONG place. Library open where? at the club coccoon ?


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KD is becoming a WONG place. Library open where? at the club coccoon ?
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I wonder how SS2 mall can keep paying their utilities with such low occupancy...
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I wonder how SS2 mall can keep paying their utilities with such low occupancy...
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converted to:
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2. expo center for clearance sales like sports good, books, etc


now heard owner is mulling to demolish and rebuild serviced apartment pulak
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converted to:
1. office occupied by public mutual unit trust
2. expo center for clearance sales like sports good, books, etc
now heard owner is mulling to demolish and rebuild serviced apartment pulak
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demolish and built another condo la...
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QUOTE(Neil_Old @ May 25 2014, 11:03 AM)
5 years ago Avenue K was completely dead as well, at least now they have picked up a bit. And getting some good tenants like H&M, sushi zanmai, etc.

Scott Garden successfully attracting the night crowd but I wouldn't compare SG with other malls like Tropicana/1U/MV/Paradigm/etc. SG never felt like a place where people would go for jalan-jalan (similar to Jaya1 feeling).

On the new malls side I'm skeptic towards Nexus Bangsar South. Just can't see why anyone would wanna drive there willingly unless they were already in the area. And that would be like Mid Valley only had to rely on The Gardens residents and hotel guests.
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Sorry sir, i go there at least once a week. I drove there. And u are right normally people do not drive there but they walk there.

The place is good, quiet no need to walk 1 end to another.

Its free parking now.
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even citta mall doing better now
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 13 2014, 03:14 PM)
as far as I can see, sunway giza mall not many vacant lots since last 1.5 years. the only recent major vacancy at the moment is the former club (coccoon?) unit next to movida. as far as i can see that side quite WONG. the other square where encorp strand's new mall is a bit empty currrently. but population is booming there with the the Cascades just only coming on line.
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Cocoon and bola bola cafe(ex) is vacant. I heard one of them is for sale too. Anybody interested in puting your money down? brows.gif

Encorp's Strand is a nice place but a bit deserted though.
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the properties can open their own shop...massage parlour...
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Huh? SS2 got mall ah?
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Last visit was yesterday for bike warehouse sales

I guess nowadays no ppl visit (except EconSave) except gudang sales biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Neil_Old @ May 25 2014, 11:03 AM)
On the new malls side I'm skeptic towards Nexus Bangsar South. Just can't see why anyone would wanna drive there willingly unless they were already in the area. And that would be like Mid Valley only had to rely on The Gardens residents and hotel guests.
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The appeal of Nexus is that unlike Midvalley, i KNOW for SURE i will be able to get parking and there will be generally less people. Also I think primarily caters to the UOA office crowd right opposite.
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The appeal of Nexus is that unlike Midvalley, i KNOW for SURE i will be able to get parking and there will be generally less people. Also I think primarily caters to the UOA office crowd right opposite.
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Yup and there is a reason why you will not get easy parking in Mid Valley and always can get one @ Nexus or SS2 Mall and similar.

Why would I wanna go to Nexus? Give me one good reason why to drive to that area solely for going to that mall, OK if I stay or work there then I could walk there since it's nearby. But for outsiders to go there solely for going to that mall? To visit starbucks because the queue at that starbucks is the shortest in KL?

So I say that unless the population there is dense enough to support the mall on it's own, malls like that are doomed from the start.

If it is true what someone wrote earlier in this thread that SS2 Mall might be demolished and rebuilt as serviced apartment I'm sure that it will be a success. It will be sold out in no time at all.

As for Nexus mall let's see how many shops can survive there. I can already see it in front of me now: "Something exciting opening here soon" banners in a lot of the shop lots biggrin.gif

By the way I hope I'm wrong because otherwise it's such a waste with all these malls popping up everywhere and then not used.









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the best way to make ss2 mall alive is to have a night club, karaoke or plenty of massage parlor...
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the best way to make ss2 mall alive is to have a night club, karaoke or plenty of massage parlor...
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That's already how they "solved" the problem at Scott Garden. Cannot use the same method everywhere biggrin.gif


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best to demolish and rebuild high rise super high density service apartments. they'll make so much money they'll regret not doing it sooner.
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That's already how they "solved" the problem at Scott Garden. Cannot use the same method everywhere biggrin.gif
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you can actually. it is a universal method of mankind... laugh.gif
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best to demolish and rebuild high rise super high density service apartments. they'll make so much money they'll regret not doing it sooner.
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Yeah.....just like how they tore down atria and the rebuild a monster building
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ss 2 mall need have cinema , jaya grocer , starbuck , mph , nice restaurant and free parking then crow slowly will come . see the usj main place , dead town become ONG now

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 13 2014, 05:58 PM)
Cocoon and bola bola cafe(ex) is vacant. I heard one of them is for sale too. Anybody interested in puting your money down?  brows.gif

Encorp's Strand is a nice place but a bit deserted though.
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I love watching movie at encorp mall cos not much crowd, can relak like it's my own living room. i give it another 6months to a year before it gets crowded.

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ss 2 mall need have cinema , jaya grocer , starbuck , mph , nice restaurant and free parking then crow slowly will come . see the usj main place , dead town become ONG now
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Dont need jaya grocer when you have econsave. Cinema is a good idea. Restaurants .... they have dragon boat or something like that.
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i like ss2mall cos no ppl there ..the failure of ss2mall is a success for me
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 13 2014, 10:45 PM)
I love watching movie at encorp mall cos not much crowd, can relak like it's my own living room. i give it another 6months to a year before it gets crowded.
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What about the serviced residents being built on top of Encorp Mall? Got potential? brows.gif
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What about the serviced residents being built on top of Encorp Mall? Got potential?  brows.gif
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opposite there cascade got cosans coffee , not bad lolz

https://www.facebook.com/pages/COSANS-Coffe...427312870818711
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QUOTE(LTG @ Oct 13 2014, 10:57 PM)
opposite there cascade got cosans coffee , not bad lolz

https://www.facebook.com/pages/COSANS-Coffe...427312870818711
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I love watching movie at encorp mall cos not much crowd, can relak like it's my own living room. i give it another 6months to a year before it gets crowded.
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i went to basikal promo last week. everything else is empty and everyone that is in ss2 mall that isn't a owner of a shop were all going to the bike promo last week

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i went to basikal promo last week. everything else is empty and everyone that is in ss2 mall that isn't a owner of a shop were all going to the bike promo last week
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yeah gian huat.

got some pretty good bargains on a couple of stuff. was worth the travel there.
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yeah gian huat.

got some pretty good bargains on a couple of stuff. was worth the travel there.
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What about the serviced residents being built on top of Encorp Mall? Got potential?  brows.gif
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got potential if go in early, when i went all the south facing (away from highway) all gone. also very expensive. also i prefer FH. but i think that whole area got potential to boom some more.

if i had more cash this area (kota D, tropicana, ara D up to saujana subang) i would choose ara green (new) and bunga raya condo (subsale at saujana side). these two development i felt were somehow special and stood out in the crowd for that price range of 600-800k. my philosophy is to go for something unique, not just pure rental play. but strictly my opinion biggrin.gif

i'm interested to know others' philosophy when buying props. care to share what you look out for

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got potential if go in early, when i went all the south facing (away from highway) all gone. also very expensive. also i prefer FH. but i think that whole area got potential to boom some more.

if i had more cash this area (kota D, tropicana, ara D up to saujana subang) i would choose ara green (new) and bunga raya condo (subsale at saujana side). these two development i felt were somehow special and stood out in the crowd for that price range of 600-800k. my philosophy is to go for something unique, not just pure rental play. but strictly my opinion  biggrin.gif

i'm interested to know others' philosophy when buying props. care to share what you look out for
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i will choose tropicana grande for own stay ~
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i will choose tropicana grande for own stay ~
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it's a 1.8M RM condo. for that price range, you would choose grande? it can get a decent landed. for eg a DST in Aman Suria. of course, the prestige and golf course view is rather special for grande! biggrin.gif

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i will choose tropicana grande for own stay ~
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 14 2014, 12:16 AM)
got potential if go in early, when i went all the south facing (away from highway) all gone. also very expensive. also i prefer FH. but i think that whole area got potential to boom some more.

if i had more cash this area (kota D, tropicana, ara D up to saujana subang) i would choose ara green (new) and bunga raya condo (subsale at saujana side). these two development i felt were somehow special and stood out in the crowd for that price range of 600-800k. my philosophy is to go for something unique, not just pure rental play. but strictly my opinion  biggrin.gif

i'm interested to know others' philosophy when buying props. care to share what you look out for
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interesting choices.
have not hear of this bunga raya condo before.

i like sunway parkville.
casa indah is under some stress now with some very nice units at a bargain. could be a jewel after mrt is completed.
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Yeah.....just like how they tore down atria and the rebuild a monster building
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did you check out the jaya supermarket redevelopment?
i thought it was funny.
they tore down a favourite hang out among old pj folks.
then they rebuild it into something oddly similiar to the former.
wakakakaka.
does not make much sense to me.

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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 14 2014, 08:32 AM)
interesting choices.
have not hear of this bunga raya condo before.

i like sunway parkville.
casa indah is under some stress now with some very nice units at a bargain. could be a jewel after mrt is completed.
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hi sir,

bungaraya is a dijaya project @ saujana subang next to fairway 18 and serai saujana.
the outstanding thing about it is the grounds are just adjacent to the saujana golf course. very beautiful indeed. huge compound too, looks like about 9-10 acres. and FH! too bad the location a bit out of the way.

never been into parkville, just look see from outside only. may be good value! are they town houses or "true" terraces?

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 14 2014, 08:52 AM)
hi sir,

bungaraya is a dijaya project @ saujana subang next to fairway 18 and serai saujana.
the outstanding thing about it is the grounds are just adjacent to the saujana golf course. very beautiful indeed. huge compound too, looks like about 9-10 acres. too bad i found the location a bit out of the way.

never been into parkville, just look see from outside only. may be good value! they are town house or "true" terraces?
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townhouses with huge built-ups.
it's a 3 storey terrace cleverly split into 1.5 storey each.
the backyard of ground floor gives you the terrace feel while the upper unit enjoys much bigger built-ups.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 14 2014, 08:53 AM)
townhouses with huge built-ups.
it's a 3 storey terrace cleverly split into 1.5 storey each.
the backyard of ground floor gives you the terrace feel while the upper unit enjoys much bigger built-ups.
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thanks! I'll check it out for future consideration. it's LH , though. Do you know how old the project is?

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 14 2014, 12:16 AM)
got potential if go in early, when i went all the south facing (away from highway) all gone. also very expensive. also i prefer FH. but i think that whole area got potential to boom some more.

if i had more cash this area (kota D, tropicana, ara D up to saujana subang) i would choose ara green (new) and bunga raya condo (subsale at saujana side). these two development i felt were somehow special and stood out in the crowd for that price range of 600-800k. my philosophy is to go for something unique, not just pure rental play. but strictly my opinion  biggrin.gif

i'm interested to know others' philosophy when buying props. care to share what you look out for
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Are the units all sold ? I saw the starting prices were from Rm600k++.
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Are the units all sold ? I saw the starting prices were from Rm600k++.
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starting price 600k for 1 bedder, LH at KD? that's the early launch price? U sure? I think that's expensive. I can't remember the exact size, IIRC it's about 600++ sft. So it's 900+ RM psf? I was at the showroom last month, only pool facing and highway facing left. The south facing inside (away from highway) gone.

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starting price 600k for 1 bedder, LH at KD? that's the early launch price? U sure? I think that's expensive. I can't remember the exact size, IIRC it's about 600++ sft. So it's 900+ RM psf? I was at the showroom last month, only pool facing and highway facing left. The south facing inside (away from highway) gone.
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Yes, was pretty pricey but considering it is just above Emcorp The Strand which is quite a exclusive place. nod.gif
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Only downside is the remaining leasehold period. I think there is 70 plus years to go
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Some places like Sunway , Shah Alam also leasehold. Nobody there I know care or take it seriously.
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Some places like Sunway , Shah Alam also leasehold.  Nobody there I know care or take it seriously.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 14 2014, 08:32 AM)
interesting choices.
have not hear of this bunga raya condo before.

i like sunway parkville.
casa indah is under some stress now with some very nice units at a bargain. could be a jewel after mrt is completed.
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casa indah 1 townhouse facing golf view very nice, unit facing mrt....tak boleh and entrance road super jam.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 14 2014, 08:32 AM)
interesting choices.
have not hear of this bunga raya condo before.

i like sunway parkville.
casa indah is under some stress now with some very nice units at a bargain. could be a jewel after mrt is completed.
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sunway parkvilla is the townhouse next to palm spring ?

regret last time no buy it ~ 400k ++ 5 year ago
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Yes, was pretty pricey but considering it is just above Emcorp The Strand which is quite a exclusive place.  nod.gif
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Strand not dead ah?
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Strand so empty...

Ss2 mall gym still there?
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Strand not dead ah?
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Simple:
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2) Parking needs to pay.
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If they give more incentives, sure got people come.
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Simple:
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3) Management sitting twiddling thumbs and not doing anything.

If they give more incentives, sure got people come.
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the arowana shop still there?
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stand atleast got cinema , hyper market , starbuck , kenny roger , suway , gym and free parking some more , wont be die so fast ~ just need time lolz
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needs another year to gauge, now rather queit.
parkville is next to palm spring. the surrounding is not so pretty as there is HTC running parallel to the road, and the other side is the NKVE. but it still looks like a good buy as the pics of the compound looks very nice with the houses surrounded by garden walkways

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SS2 Mall ...... it needs more quality eateries and shops. the management need to take a look at paradigm/empire and emulate what they did successfully.

a) renovate the top floors and change it to 8 screen cinemas
b) 2-3 fast food
c) quality and reasonably priced restaurant
d) bookshops
e) get a popular hypermarket like tesco or giant. with aeon big at tropicana mall i'm sure tesco and giant would be interested
f) relook at the existing tenant - some are selling really boring niche products like blinds, mattress etc (actually not a lot of shops left haha)
g) have weekly promo - celebrities, special sales, events - anything to generate hype and liven up the place
h) try to connect the front section to the mall to make it more seamless. also the mall and parking connection is bad - steps everywhere with deserted walkway, not elderly friendly and dangerous
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they should have more public transport like buses linking to there/
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Strand so empty...

Ss2 mall gym still there?
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Gym is doing ok. Also got new eatery, Gooh Wah XO Fish Head Noodle is quite popular with crowd. It is my favourite with right balance of yam, tomato and yummy fish meat. Price is reasonable and service is prompt.

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Another eatery that still managing to stay on for 2 years already is Al-Amin selling Xinjiang Muslim cuisine . Will go and try the food soon. You can find the review here:
http://www.kuali.com/dining-out/nutritious...uisine-al-amin/.

Elsewise , Caring Pharmacy is the latest to close down.

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QUOTE(kitman @ Oct 14 2014, 01:14 PM)
SS2 Mall ...... it needs more quality eateries and shops. the management need to take a look at paradigm/empire and emulate what they did successfully.

a) renovate the top floors and change it to 8 screen cinemas
b) 2-3 fast food
c) quality and reasonably priced restaurant
d) bookshops
e) get a popular hypermarket like tesco or giant. with aeon big at tropicana mall i'm sure tesco and giant would be interested
f) relook at the existing tenant - some are selling really boring niche products like blinds, mattress etc (actually not a lot of shops left haha)
g) have weekly promo - celebrities, special sales, events - anything to generate hype and liven up the place
h) try to connect the front section to the mall to make it more seamless. also the mall and parking connection is bad - steps everywhere with deserted walkway, not elderly friendly and dangerous
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SS2 Mall totally Fail project brows.gif brows.gif
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There is a post in another forum saying that the shops have been given 3 months to close business as there are plans to rebuild a section of the mall into residence . Anyone can give verify this?
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There is a post in another forum saying that the shops have been given 3 months to close business as there are plans to rebuild a section of the mall into residence . Anyone can give verify this?
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the mall is fail, will buyer still invest to buy the residence unit ?
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with the tag PJ SS2, won't below 800 PSF
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There is a post in another forum saying that the shops have been given 3 months to close business as there are plans to rebuild a section of the mall into residence . Anyone can give verify this?
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at least there won't be econsave to drag down the image of the area...

it would be wonderful if the low cost flats people can clean up like Singapore HDB or just move out
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Latest update . Econsave had ceased operations. There is a temporary outlet selling many vareities of CNY Biscuit at the residential frontage of the mall.

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SS2 mall will succes, olny if tropicana city mall never exist, and need to bring in cinema mall

who want to go ss2 mall where nearby gt a better mall which is tropicana city mall
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open night club and bring the PRC..then can stimulate the populations there. smile.gif
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Jan 6 2015, 11:32 AM)
SS2 mall will succes, olny if tropicana city mall never exist, and need to bring in cinema mall

who want to go ss2 mall where nearby gt a better mall which is tropicana city mall
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not true...

SS2 mall failed is because they didnt manage to secure a branded anchor tenant like Jaya Jusco, Jaya Grocer etc....

Those people staying in that vicinity want to buy expensive stuff only.. you open econsave people tak kesah because econsave is technically pasar pagi with aircond.
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Been there 2 weeks ago. The location is not strategic. And no unique selling points to attract peoples to visit the mall. Retails all run away. Hard to sustain.
BTW, the reason to attracted me there were FOS close shop fire sale.

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I heard the tenant there said the mall is going to destructure and build condo.
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I heard the tenant there said the mall is going to destructure and build condo.
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so are they gona build the mall n apartment or jus apartment?? q3/4 is not long from now..expect everything to be done by 2019/2020

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SS2 mall is Mah Sing project right? That means a new condo from Mah Sing is coming soon. Wonder if they are targeting high end or mid-range condo.
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The mall is crowded today, the electrical appliances are cheap! 25% disc Bbb!!

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SS2 Durian stalls that are relocated create new problems to other people in the neighborhood.

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SS2 Durian stalls that are relocated create new problems to other people in the neighborhood.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Metro/Community/...garding-safety/
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From the first day they build the small store I already felt it's stupid. Regardless what they sell there, people are going to stop by the road to make purchases. So essentially that soon to be major road that connect to sprint highway will again be jammed up from traffic light onwards.

Whoever the officer that approves building the store should be sack.
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SS2 mall is Mah Sing project right? That means a new condo from Mah Sing is coming soon. Wonder if they are targeting high end or mid-range condo.
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I wonder why nobody correct the above statement?

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Last time plan to open a store there.... luckily did not commit.....

I wonder wat happen to all the arowana fish at the top of ss2 mall...... would they buang all the arowana at the back lonkang of ss2 mall ????
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if the new owner choose to rebuild, it will fail again n again..even Tropicana city aso declining even faster now!
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QUOTE(JasonW13 @ Jan 11 2015, 04:37 PM)
SS2 mall is Mah Sing project right? That means a new condo from Mah Sing is coming soon. Wonder if they are targeting high end or mid-range condo.
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Ok Ace77 let me correct the statement. The property is owned by Pramerica AsiaRetail, not MahSing. IJM was the contractor for SS2 Mall did a silly job, the parking ramp damn narrow. New contractor not sure who. I don't see work has started, only saw at the back the river bed some activities to strengthen the slope. Hopefully the redevelopment is better planned out, don't dare to think about the traffic conditions as double parking is a problem along the main road stretch.
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QUOTE(krayzie @ Jul 15 2015, 01:33 PM)
From the first day they build the small store I already felt it's stupid. Regardless what they sell there, people are going to stop by the road to make purchases. So essentially that soon to be major road that connect to sprint highway will again be jammed up from traffic light onwards.

Whoever the officer that approves building the store should be sack.
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The people in the department is also happily eating there, takda sack punya because everyone enjoy makan durian together gether.
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QUOTE(Chigme @ Jul 15 2015, 03:22 PM)
Ok Ace77 let me correct the statement. The property is owned by Pramerica AsiaRetail, not MahSing.  IJM was the contractor for SS2 Mall did a silly job, the parking ramp damn narrow. New contractor not sure who. I don't see work has started, only saw at the back the river bed some activities to strengthen the slope.  Hopefully the redevelopment is better planned out, don't dare to think about the traffic conditions as double parking is a problem along the main road stretch.
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it's funny people always complaint about the contractor when contractor is just building in accordance to drawings.
unless it's design and built then different story liao lah.

usually, design related materials, go after consultant and developer
quality matters, go after contractor and developer

at least, that's what i understand from my limited experience.
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if the new owner choose to rebuild, it will fail again n again..even Tropicana city aso declining even faster now!
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Tropicana City under CapitalMalls Malaysia is planning to revamp the place in a major way. They intend to bring in stronger tenants and outside the mall they want to build up to house eateries (like the Paradigm concept where food outlet is outside the mall)
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QUOTE(Chigme @ Jul 15 2015, 01:30 AM)
Tropicana City under CapitalMalls Malaysia is planning to revamp the place in a major way. They intend to bring in stronger tenants and outside the mall they want to build up to house eateries (like the  Paradigm concept where food outlet is outside the mall)
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i think problem in many malls in damansara is not strength of tenants list but too many malls selling the same thing... Let's see how this turns out brows.gif
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Any progress on this mall to condo transformation?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 15 2015, 03:29 PM)
it's funny people always complaint about the contractor when contractor is just building in accordance to drawings.
unless it's design and built then different story liao lah.

usually, design related materials, go after consultant and developer
quality matters, go after contractor and developer

at least, that's what i understand from my limited experience.
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That's rather true. Contractor just execute the work as per the drawings. Well, unless of course, the contractor executed it wrongly, different from the drawings, into that weird car park ramp...but that would be a major blunder which should be re-worked then again.
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How is ss2 mall now? Never been there for like 2-3 years already
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How is ss2 mall now? Never been there for like 2-3 years already
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The failure due to hidden and very inconvenient access .it can be successful if opening of direct highways access from Rothmans traffic lights to sprint highway by mbpj which overdue or should be open 30years ago as well planned in mbpj master plan.
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already tapao long time ago blush.gif
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Huh.. Means now it is just an empty building? All vacant?
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Huh..  Means now it is just an empty building?  All vacant?
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THE near-empty SStwo Mall in Section 19, Petaling Jaya, is headed for redevelopment and a rebranding exercise.

Pramerica AsiaRetail general manager Andrew Neary said the mall will be significantly reduced in size and be much more community-based with emphasis on provision of local services and better food.

Pramerica AsiaRetail is an entity under AsiaMalls Sdn Bhd which owns the shopping center.

“Details have yet to be finalised but there will certainly still be a shopping centre here, it just will not be what it is like today,” he said.

More details at: http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...be-redeveloped/
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QUOTE(MonGJiHyo @ Mar 27 2016, 10:06 AM)
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THE near-empty SStwo Mall in Section 19, Petaling Jaya, is headed for redevelopment and a rebranding exercise.

Pramerica AsiaRetail general manager Andrew Neary said the mall will be significantly reduced in size and be much more community-based with emphasis on provision of local services and better food.

Pramerica AsiaRetail is an entity under AsiaMalls Sdn Bhd which owns the shopping center.

“Details have yet to be finalised but there will certainly still be a shopping centre here, it just will not be what it is like today,” he said.

More details at: http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...be-redeveloped/
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Thanks.. Now got any progress on the redevelopment?

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post Mar 28 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 27 2016, 10:26 AM)
Thanks..  Now got any progress on the redevelopment?
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post Sep 3 2016, 10:05 AM

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SStwo Mall up for sale

ASIAN Retail Mall Fund II (ARMF), which owns the SStwo Mall in Petaling Jaya, is believed to be seeking a buyer for the retail asset as an earlier plan to redevelop the site has been shelved.

The Edge understands that the vendor is hoping to seal a deal for around RM200 million. The owner may also be willing to do an asset/land swap with an interested party.

The neighbourhood shopping centre, operated by SStwo Mall Sdn Bhd, was shut down in March last year after operating for less than 4½ years. It was built at a cost of RM180 million.

Together with two other malls that the fund is looking to divest — Island Plaza in Penang for an estimated RM120 million and Seremban Prima (previously known as Seremban Parade) in Negeri Sembilan for RM150 million — its retail assets could fetch up to RM470 million.

Tenants of SStwo Mall were given notice to vacate the premises in late 2014, and the shopping centre was closed on March 31 last year. The tenants were told that a partial demolition of the retail structure had been planned and that the mall’s size would be reduced considerably. A serviced apartment block was to be built on top of the resized mall.

Located on a 7.8-acre site, SStwo Mall has a gross floor area of 700,000 sq ft and a net lettable area of 460,000 sq ft.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...ce=facebook.com

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the mall won't work as it's located just adjacent to a low cost flat. Ss2 mall has a good concept but ultimately it is unable to maintain it's upscale concept. When your visitors are mostly foreign labours, you will have a hard time attracting locals who r willing to spend. No cinema, no good anchor tenant brings matter worse.
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QUOTE(goodiemangold @ Sep 4 2016, 12:54 PM)
the mall won't work as it's located just adjacent to a low cost flat. Ss2 mall has a good concept but ultimately it is unable to maintain it's upscale concept. When your visitors are mostly foreign labours, you will have a hard time attracting locals who r willing to spend. No cinema, no good anchor tenant brings matter worse.
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Parking design was a disaster.....imagine you have to go in to buy something, locatino is convenient but the thought of going up its parking just puts you off totally
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Sep 4 2016, 01:02 PM)
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Parking design was a disaster.....imagine you have to go in to buy something, locatino is convenient but the thought of going up its parking just puts you off totally
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It is cheaper to build car park on top of the mall than underground.

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Sep 4 2016, 01:02 PM)
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Parking design was a disaster.....imagine you have to go in to buy something, locatino is convenient but the thought of going up its parking just puts you off totally
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agree.. horrible parking design.. no anchor tenants, toilets are located at very deserted corners, confusing signages.. bye! bye.gif
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agree.. horrible parking design.. no anchor tenants, toilets are located at very deserted corners, confusing signages.. bye! bye.gif
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no more bye, its already gone. doh.gif thumbsup.gif
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no more bye, its already gone.  doh.gif  thumbsup.gif
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