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post Sep 9 2009, 09:04 PM, updated 16y ago

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The Nikon D40 is an all new affordable, compact, point-and-shoot digital SLR from Nikon, it follows on from the D50 but at a significantly lower price point and with a subtly different feature set. The biggest news however is probably fact that Nikon resisted the temptation to keep chasing megapixels (hooray for that) and instead appear to have concentrated on what makes a good camera, a decent viewfinder, short shutter lag, very short viewfinder blackout. They've trimmed some of the 'less important features' (you can't change the exposure steps for example) but have squeezed a range of new features such as custom Auto ISO which we welcomed with the D80.

Review of D40
Dpreview of Nikon D40
Ken Rockwell's Review

D40x
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The Nikon D40 was announced just under four months ago, and yet here we are with a new version of that camera. The D40X has the same compact lightweight body and easy to use control layout, in fact the only external physical difference is the badge. Under the bonnet Nikon has swapped out the D40's six megapixel CCD for a ten megapixel unit, this also provides a lower base sensitivity of ISO 100 and must utilize dual readout because continuous shooting frame rate has gone up from 2.5 fps to 3.0 fps. Based on the specs and features this camera is clearly aiming to knock the EOS 400D (Digital Rebel XTi) off its pedestal.

D40x specifications

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D60 is a 10.2MP digital camera that will look and feel remarkably familiar to users of the D40X. It includes an anti-dust system that incorporates a self-cleaning sensor unit that shakes off dust, coupled with an airflow system designed to channel dust away from the sensor. The model also adds active d-lighting, a stop-motion recording mode and Expeed branding.

Review of D60
Dpreview of D60
Ken Rockwell's review

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The D3000 dispels the view that DSLR cameras are complicated and makes taking great pictures simpler than ever before. You can really concentrate on having fun with photography and the Guide mode helps you to get the best results with the minimum of fuss.

Review of D3000
Dpreview of D3000

D5000
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The idea of an upper-entry-level DSLR (for want of a better term), that sits below the 'enthusiast' grade D90 (with its twin control dials, big battery and pentaprism viewfinder), is hardly a radical one - the Canon 500D and Olympus E-620 seem to cater to a similar market.

Nikon D5000 vs D60: Key Differences
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Review of D5000
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PM me to update the userlist if your name is still not there. TQ

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Autofocus Problem on Entry Level Body.

Many have ask about the problem of AF(AutoFocus) on entry level body, the problem here is whether the camera body has build-in AF motor or not. And unfortunately, for Nikon's entry level body, they don't come with build-in AF motor, hence in order to autofocus, the camera have to rely on the lens. While the lens must have its build-in AF motor, since the absent of the body AF motor. So, in Nikon's line-up, we have the "AF-S" and "AF-I" lens which has build-in SWM motor for the lens. Therefore, user of the entry level body, will have to look for lenses which has build-in AF motor in order for the autofocus function, else, the user will have to end up doing manual focusing.

While for the "AF" or "AF-D" lens from Nikon, it still can be mount on the camera, but since there is no AF motor in both the camera body as well as the lens, then the user have to work on for manual focus ONLY. On the other hand, the medium to high end of Nikon camera body will come with build-in AF motor, hence it allow the user to achieve autofocus through the camera's motor rotating the lens' element.


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Body without build-in AF motor.
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Body with build-in AF motor.
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Off camera flash setup

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Body Area

Nikon DSLR current line-up comparison chart.

Lens Area

Nikon mount lens review

Various lens and camera accessory review.

PhotoMalaysia user product review.

The Motley Pixel: DSLR Lens Review

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post Sep 9 2009, 09:52 PM

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wah, V6 already oh
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Yeap, working out to add in more information to ease newbie in exploring the world of DSLR. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:06 PM

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wah..
V6 alredi.. rclxms.gif
gud2.. thumbup.gif
n welkam to D3000 user.. brows.gif
huhu..
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Cool... didn't know V6 liao...
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:36 PM

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why buy d3000 but giv canon bag?? so weird..
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 9 2009, 10:36 PM)
why buy d3000 but giv canon bag?? so weird..
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Zi-tech...u can view v5 thread last page...that was what he wrote...
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may be the shop dun have Nikon bag already
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lolx...got so funny stuff de meh??
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post Sep 9 2009, 11:48 PM

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ah... my bad.... alway write canon.I get a nikon bag..... all word in my head change... when i want to write nikon, must be a canon....i think got identity crisis in my body(hand dont want want hear to brain).....hahaha... maybe the hand mad because dont choose canon....hahahaha doh.gif doh.gif .. this happen about 5 times i think.... but before then i realized and change back to nikon....today i dont realize it

yeah.... i have already have D3000. and i enjoy it... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif . to give a review, i think after raya only because i only jump to dslr from pns....heheheh..... sorry again for wrong information.... notworthy.gif

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yeah, V6 oredi~ rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

anyone know the lowest price for AF-S 50mm f/1.4?

btw, camera battery last longer in cold weather/low temperature, is it true?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 9 2009, 11:49 PM)
yeah, V6 oredi~  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

anyone know the lowest price for AF-S 50mm f/1.4?

btw, camera battery last longer in cold weather/low temperature, is it true?
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50mm F1.4G AF-S selling around rm1850

Lithium ion battery will last longer in cold weather
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 9 2009, 11:49 PM)
yeah, V6 oredi~  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

anyone know the lowest price for AF-S 50mm f/1.4?

btw, camera battery last longer in cold weather/low temperature, is it true?
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shashinki was selling at 1860...so shud be can cheaper than that price..=)
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i know few shops selling at rm1800(haven nego, jz ask)
is there any place selling at rm17XX?
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i think in cold weather, battery efficiency decrease actually...
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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 10 2009, 12:18 AM)
i think in cold weather, battery efficiency decrease actually...
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im not sure
i asked bcos i c battery testing results always show 2 temperature conditions
room temperature(24C-28C) can take less shots than when in 0C
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i tot battery drain faster in cold weather??
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battery life should drain faster in low temperature..
V6 already rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
and welcome to new d3000 user thumbup.gif
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maybe special battery...
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lol sweat.gif
btw Zi-Tech, congrats on your d3000
how's the guide mode on your d3000?care to give some opinion/review?
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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 10 2009, 12:54 AM)
maybe special battery...
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i knew the fact after watching angel and demon...haha...you shud watch it..then u know what i mean..haha...
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hows the GUIDE mode on the D3000? thats what i want to know.. must be real-easy as ABC.. laugh.gif
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so far so good... the guide mode is very intuitive... but i need to take more picture based on this mode...


maybe tomorrow give some review.

i see that story too... but i have read some article(some manufacture battery like sony) they said in cold their battery can long lasting.... that why i said special battery...

but i know battery efficiency will decrease due to cold temperature
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oic...that sony 1 i dont know about it..haha...coz for me, for now, every battery is look the same...and i dint use so much battery nowaday...so i dont care..XD
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yeah....same with me... even got batteries, dont use it very much....now got dslr, i think that batery(for pns-use AA) will be on my drawer....hehehehe

for jsc, yeah the guide mode is easy as abc... there also a brief explanation about what we use like auto, no flash and many more... so from there, user will know how to set their cam in m mode....
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I just realised after so long. My name is not on the D60 user list! icon_question.gif Anyway guys, Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 ok or not?Might postpone the buying of new lens for a while since my bro just bought a Sony PS3 from Dubai! thumbup.gif Need more money on games~ icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Sep 10 2009, 05:05 AM)
I just realised after so long. My name is not on the D60 user list! icon_question.gif Anyway guys, Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 ok or not?Might postpone the buying of new lens for a while since my bro just bought a Sony PS3 from Dubai! thumbup.gif Need more money on games~ icon_rolleyes.gif
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why dont u go for tamron 17-50 f/2.8? u got wider angle
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Sep 10 2009, 05:05 AM)
I just realised after so long. My name is not on the D60 user list! icon_question.gif Anyway guys, Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 ok or not?Might postpone the buying of new lens for a while since my bro just bought a Sony PS3 from Dubai! thumbup.gif Need more money on games~ icon_rolleyes.gif
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bro, im using tammy 17-50 and i think it is the best lens for kit lens replacement. 28mm is not wide for aps-c camera with crop factor 1.5x.

btw v6 already.too fast!
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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 10 2009, 02:05 AM)
yeah....same with me... even got batteries, dont use it very much....now got dslr, i think that batery(for pns-use AA) will be on my drawer....hehehehe

for jsc, yeah the guide mode is easy as abc... there also a brief explanation about what we use like auto, no flash and many more... so from there, user will know how to set their cam in m mode....
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use your AA battery for future speedlight aaaa....
the guide mode,is it quite the same as olympus compact one?
saw the guide mode in my sister's compact hmm.gif
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yoh...heart move move wanna buy D3000...but dunno can get RM2k de or not...T.T
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Anyone know where can get cheap lens cap? I lost my 52mm lens cap.... Found soem shop selling for RM90 =.=

I don't need original Nikon lens cap, as long as it fits nicely into my lens and can protect my lens. Someone pm-ed me tarita in Lowyat plaza sells for RM39, i wonder is there any cheaper one =)
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new version... great... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 10 2009, 03:05 AM)
yeah....same with me... even got batteries, dont use it very much....now got dslr, i think that batery(for pns-use AA) will be on my drawer....hehehehe

for jsc, yeah the guide mode is easy as abc... there also a brief explanation about what we use like auto, no flash and many more... so from there, user will know how to set their cam in m mode....
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pns still use AA battery?? muz be quite old?? coz i thought nowaday pns no use AA bat already...

QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Sep 10 2009, 08:31 AM)
yoh...heart move move wanna buy D3000...but dunno can get RM2k de or not...T.T
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just buy it =)...u go find some shop nego, sure the price is below 2k v kit lens...
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Wow..congrat to v6. I just found I havent added into the list. Mine is D60 user. lol..
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Glad to see V6!!!! I would like to be added to the D40 list too.
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 10 2009, 06:28 AM)

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funny to see D300s box next to D3000 box.. they wanna poison us?
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Sep 10 2009, 09:03 AM)
Anyone know where can get cheap lens cap? I lost my 52mm lens cap.... Found soem shop selling for RM90 =.=

I don't need original Nikon lens cap, as long as it fits nicely into my lens and can protect my lens. Someone pm-ed me tarita in Lowyat plaza sells for RM39, i wonder is there any cheaper one =)
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u can buy original lens cap la, cos its not that expensive la
Shashinki selling Nikon 52mm lens cap at rm28 only
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 10 2009, 10:06 AM)
pns still use AA battery?? muz be quite old?? coz i thought nowaday pns no use AA bat already...
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now still got latest PnS cams using AA batteries, mostly superzooms
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so envy you all...can get ur camera...i still keeping money for my camera...ikat perut period...LOLX...
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It is already V6... congrats.
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Congrats!!! It's version 6!! smile.gif

Wanna share some f1.8 pics

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how come the pic blur-blur?
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f1.8 50mm shot ehe
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no tripod!!! haha.... 50mm 1.8 aso wont so blur 1 mah...
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i was focusing front objects only and blurring rear background purposely.
Higher Aperture, F1.8 will deriving better focusing in front object and blurring rear background.
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or like dis?

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QUOTE(xcrue @ Sep 11 2009, 12:04 AM)
i was focusing front objects only and blurring rear background purposely.
Higher Aperture, F1.8 will deriving better focusing in front object and blurring rear background.
maybe handshake biggrin.gif
or like dis?

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The previous photo, focus point on the car's front part is not sharp enuf, maybe need to adjust again due to manual focus. biggrin.gif

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50mm at f1.8 is soft...i have 1, i find it soft at 1.8..sharp at 2.5 onwards.
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 11 2009, 12:29 AM)
50mm at f1.8 is soft...i have 1, i find it soft at 1.8..sharp at 2.5 onwards.
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i seldom use it at f1.8... usually around f2.8..
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icic.. Let me try f2.8 sooner smile.gif
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actually wat's f1.8 n so??mind 2 teach teach =p noobie here..
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I agree.... which is why I find the 35 f1.8 much improved that you can see the sharpness wide open and at f3.5 (1 stop) you can really see how sharp it is.
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50mm at f1.8 is soft...i have 1, i find it soft at 1.8..sharp at 2.5 onwards.
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Added on September 11, 2009, 12:55 pmThe f number is the aperture size. The larger the aperture the smaller the F-number.
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actually wat's f1.8 n so??mind 2 teach teach =p noobie here..
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@General Nic
Thanks for the link! But including shipping it's RM 38, just one ringgit difference than the shop i found... The shop also selling original. Cuz i am living in hostel now, shipping is not convenient for me =)

BTW im saving for 35mm f1.8 now T_T
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@General Nic
Thanks for the link! But including shipping it's RM 38, just one ringgit difference than the shop i found... The shop also selling original. Cuz i am living in hostel now, shipping is not convenient for me =)

BTW im saving for 35mm f1.8 now T_T
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buy more stuff so itz free shipping... tongue.gif

u r planning to use 35mm for portrait?? if yes, i feel itz too wide... 50mm would be better... jus my 2 cent... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 11 2009, 01:40 PM)
buy more stuff so itz free shipping...  tongue.gif

u r planning to use 35mm for portrait?? if yes, i feel itz too wide... 50mm would be better... jus my 2 cent...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Most probably portrait. I have no choice =x D40 can't AF with 50mm F1.8, the AF-S ones are too expensive...
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 11 2009, 12:54 PM)
The f number is the aperture size. The larger the aperture the smaller the F-number.
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i see...and what's its effect?when aperture size is bigger n smaller?

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Sep 11 2009, 01:51 PM)
Most probably portrait. I have no choice =x D40 can't AF with 50mm F1.8, the AF-S ones are too expensive...
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okok... i think u should try the 35mm be4 decide... coz initially GeneralNic wanna get 35mm too, but afte he tried 35mm and 50mm,den he kno the difference n aim for 50mm now... smile.gif
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 11 2009, 12:54 PM)
I agree.... which is why I find the 35 f1.8 much improved that you can see the sharpness wide open and at f3.5 (1 stop) you can really see how sharp it is.

Added on September 11, 2009, 12:55 pmThe f number is the aperture size. The larger the aperture the smaller the F-number.
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Is there 50mm F1.8 AF-S? If yes hw much?
F1.4 Afs too expensive for me leh...
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Is there 50mm F1.8 AF-S? If yes hw much?
F1.4 Afs too expensive for me leh...
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T_T too bad
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wait for AF-S 35mm 1.4 la~ brows.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 11 2009, 02:37 PM)
wait for AF-S 35mm 1.4 la~  brows.gif
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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Sep 11 2009, 12:55 PM)
i see...and what's its effect?when aperture size is bigger n smaller?
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it will affect the depth of field..

QUOTE(edwinlcw @ Sep 11 2009, 02:23 PM)
get sigma 30mm f1.4 hsm.. biggrin.gif
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planning on getting prime lense soon,but the price blink.gif sweat.gif cry.gif
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it will affect the depth of field..
how much for this lense?is it good?
planning on getting prime lense soon,but the price  blink.gif  sweat.gif  cry.gif
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the price is about the same as nikkor 50mm f1.4 afs... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(edwinlcw @ Sep 11 2009, 03:58 PM)
the price is about the same as nikkor 50mm f1.4 afs... sweat.gif
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aren't there any cheaper prime lense that can autofocus on my d5000 body cry.gif
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how about this one "Nikkor 35mm F1.8G AF-S DX"?
is it good?

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QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 11 2009, 05:55 PM)
lol.....then better take nikkor i guess sweat.gif
aren't there any cheaper prime lense that can autofocus on my d5000 body cry.gif
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how about this one "Nikkor 35mm F1.8G AF-S DX"?
is it good?
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around RM800 only, the cheapest prime lens with built in motor for Nikon...
as for good or not, i'll say it's good for a lens this cheap
but like posts earlier said, it depends whether the bokeh & sharpness satisfy u o not
for me im disappointed with its bokeh, so now ikat perut longer to get the AFS 50mm...
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Sep 10 2009, 11:31 PM)
Congrats!!! It's version 6!! smile.gif

Wanna share some f1.8 pics

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no tripod!!! haha.... 50mm 1.8 aso wont so blur 1 mah...
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get sigma 30mm f1.4 hsm.. biggrin.gif
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shot at f/1.8 50mm:
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another example from the 50mm but at f/2.8

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nope..50mm 1.8 doesnt mean wont blur arh smile.gif...1.8 allows higher shutter speed but not HIGH SHUTTER SPEED. It is different smile.gif
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Mungkin Sp00kY boleh terangkan sikit lagi pasal yang bold tu, bagi kita kita ni faham dengan lebih baik smile.gif Agak susah nak difahami tu.
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If you can afford the Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.4 I suggest you test the Sigma 50 f1.4 first before buying. I tested and liked it but I decided to go for the Nikkor 35 f1.8 as a cheaper alternative.
QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 11 2009, 06:09 PM)
around RM800 only, the cheapest prime lens with built in motor for Nikon...
as for good or not, i'll say it's good for a lens this cheap
but like posts earlier said, it depends whether the bokeh & sharpness satisfy u o not
for me im disappointed with its bokeh, so now ikat perut longer to get the AFS 50mm...
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If you can afford the Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.4 I suggest you test the Sigma 50 f1.4 first before buying. I tested and liked it but I decided to go for the Nikkor 35 f1.8 as a cheaper alternative.
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Sigma got 50mm oso? blink.gif
never seen it b4, i only knew about the 30mm
price same as Nikon 50mm AFS?
from the your words, u r saying Sigma IQ is better?
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Price of the Sigma is slightly higher (around RM 100-200) at around RM 2000 than the Nikon. Yes... I feel the Sigma IQ is better which is why I suggest you test this one first to compare. Anyway it is pretty big too.
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_al...54&navigator=17

50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM
QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 11 2009, 07:13 PM)
Sigma got 50mm oso?  blink.gif
never seen it b4, i only knew about the 30mm
price same as Nikon 50mm AFS?
from the your words, u r saying Sigma IQ is better?
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 11 2009, 07:37 PM)
Price of the Sigma is slightly higher (around RM 100-200) at around RM 2000 than the Nikon. Yes... I feel the Sigma IQ is better which is why I suggest you test this one first to compare. Anyway it is pretty big too.
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_al...54&navigator=17

50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM
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went Sigma website earlier
the lens jz enter market not long rite?
if local price around RM2k still ok, cos at 1st i convert the USD730... sweat.gif
how's the AF speed compare to Nikon?
but even extra RM100-200 still difficult la
i oredi gonna to have hard time convincing my dad buy the AFS 50mm, add budget like overdoing it sweat.gif
n harder still is to convince my dad 3rd party brand can be better than Nikon doh.gif
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hmmmm...so hard to choose,better go look/feel first..
btw,Zi-Tech...what's the price of your d3000?get any free gift?
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The lens is quite new, if I'm not mistaken it was launched last year and before the Nikon 35 f1.8 was launched. AF speed pretty fast as it is a prime lens. Anyway, as I said.. if you have a chance test the Sigma 50 f1.4 you will see what I mean when you see the sharpness, bokeh and colour tone of the lens. Only problem was I found the size of the lens a bit of a problem for the small D40 body and grip. The Nikons are much smaller.
QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 11 2009, 07:50 PM)
went Sigma website earlier
the lens jz enter market not long rite?
if local price around RM2k still ok, cos at 1st i convert the USD730...  sweat.gif
how's the AF speed compare to Nikon?
but even extra RM100-200 still difficult la
i oredi gonna to have hard time convincing my dad buy the AFS 50mm, add budget like overdoing it  sweat.gif
n harder still is to convince my dad 3rd party brand can be better than Nikon  doh.gif
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sigma 50mm 1.4 HSM is a big a$$ lens! there are a lot of good reviews about it too!
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QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 11 2009, 09:16 PM)
hmmmm...so hard to choose,better go look/feel first..
btw,Zi-Tech...what's the price of your d3000?get any free gift?
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got at price 2080 only including postage....

got free bag and 4gb memory card (from nikon)

some pic of the camera....
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ouh...nice price.. rclxms.gif

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tranlate : membolehkan speed shutter yang lebih tinggi, bukan speed shutter yang tinggi?  rclxub.gif
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smile.gif Owhh well he must have problems responding to kind request. Some big S(hot) must he be smile.gif
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Tranny dear i think you should pay more attention to your photos in photo.net. You havent been replying any of the comments/reviews of them, people would appreciate some words on the hows and whats. Its not like you post your photos here anyway smile.gif And you are obviously not being yourself here.
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Tranny dear i think you should pay more attention to your photos in photo.net. You havent been replying any of the comments/reviews of them, people would appreciate some words on the hows and whats. Its not like you post your photos here anyway smile.gif And you are obviously not being yourself here.
Pardon my russian.
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Nice.... next to come... 55-200VR and flash. smile.gif Happy Shooting
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got at price 2080 only including postage....

got free bag and 4gb memory card (from nikon)

some pic of the camera....
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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 12 2009, 02:26 AM)
got at price 2080 only including postage....

got free bag and 4gb memory card (from nikon)

some pic of the camera....
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lol...help!!!

cannot decide which one is better suite...so noob
-nikkor 55-200
-sigma 70-300
-tamron 70-300( that can autofocus with d60)

what is the best choice for camera & money?
budget RM800-RM900

wanna do some macro also
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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 12 2009, 09:44 AM)
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nanny, ur from phg?
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At that price range, no doubt go for the Nikkor. It is still better than the other 2 as it has VR. Alternatively, sell your kit lens and go for the Nikkor 18-105VR.
QUOTE(ajoy_sempoi @ Sep 12 2009, 01:40 PM)
lol...help!!!

cannot decide which one is better suite...so noob
-nikkor 55-200
-sigma 70-300
-tamron 70-300( that can autofocus with d60)

what is the best choice for camera & money?
budget RM800-RM900

wanna do some macro also
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Hi ! I'm curious to know that, can 50mm f1.8 be autofocusing no D3000 which doesn't have a built-in Motor?
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No AF with the 50mm f1.8 Nikkor. For D3000 you will have to go for the 35mm DX f1.8 AF-S.
QUOTE(Ryou @ Sep 12 2009, 03:31 PM)
Hi ! I'm curious to know that, can 50mm f1.8 be autofocusing no D3000 which doesn't have a built-in Motor?
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 12 2009, 03:39 PM)
No AF with the 50mm f1.8 Nikkor. For D3000 you will have to go for the 35mm DX f1.8 AF-S.
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oh no.. I thought 50mm would be an ideal one for portrait.
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QUOTE(Ryou @ Sep 12 2009, 03:48 PM)
oh no.. I thought 50mm would be an ideal one for portrait.
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so only 50mm f1.4 & 35mm DX f1.8 AF-S?
Which means the keyword to go for it AF-S?
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You can go for the 50mm f/1.8 also but you need to manual focus. If you want it to AF (autofocus) on your D3000 body,better choose one of the lens you stated there. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Ryou @ Sep 12 2009, 04:10 PM)
so only 50mm f1.4 & 35mm DX f1.8 AF-S?
Which means the keyword to go for it AF-S?
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Look at my 2nd post in the 1st page of this thread, in the technical terms area I've highlighted those thing regarding lens' technology like AF term for different manufacturer.
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hi all....i m new in this photography world...just got my D3000...pls add me in the list

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yeah if your camera doesn't have a motor, the keyword to look for lens is AF-S wink.gif
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Sep 12 2009, 05:10 PM)
hi all....i m new in this photography world...just got my D3000...pls add me in the list

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how much u bought for it? any goodies?
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 12 2009, 03:29 PM)
At  that price range, no doubt go for the Nikkor. It is still better than the other 2 as it has VR. Alternatively, sell your kit lens and go for the Nikkor 18-105VR.
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ok i will survey it!!!
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welcome..

how much u bought for it? any goodies?
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QUOTE(wcs2798 @ Sep 13 2009, 05:41 AM)
price = secret,goodies = alot
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congrats to the new D3000 owners... do post your photos up too biggrin.gif
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yaeh...come on la d3000 owner...
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anyone selling a d40 still?
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Need sifu suggestion here. When I shot with flash, All object very clear but the room light was changed to white. sad.gif I wanna shot the photo as attached with remain the light condition(warm) with flash on. What setting should I put? notworthy.gif

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wah d3000 are increasing.....heheheheeh come on...
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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Sep 14 2009, 03:06 PM)
Need sifu suggestion here. When I shot with flash, All object very clear but the room light was changed to white. sad.gif I wanna shot the photo as attached with remain the light condition(warm) with flash on. What setting should I put?  notworthy.gif

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Shoot in RAW and adjust ur white balance later on? smile.gif

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 14 2009, 04:22 PM)
Shoot in RAW and adjust ur white balance later on? smile.gif
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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Sep 14 2009, 04:32 PM)
Oic..Must go through software to adjust?
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 14 2009, 04:41 PM)
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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Sep 14 2009, 03:06 PM)
Need sifu suggestion here. When I shot with flash, All object very clear but the room light was changed to white. sad.gif I wanna shot the photo as attached with remain the light condition(warm) with flash on. What setting should I put?  notworthy.gif

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play2 with the white balance.. use manual.. trial-error, since u have plenty of time right? nod.gif

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Need sifu suggestion here. When I shot with flash, All object very clear but the room light was changed to white. sad.gif I wanna shot the photo as attached with remain the light condition(warm) with flash on. What setting should I put?  notworthy.gif

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what should i go for ?
lens first or flash gun first ?
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 14 2009, 07:59 PM)
what should i go for ?
lens first or flash gun first ?
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what should i go for ?
lens first or flash gun first ?
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The standard answer will be buy flashgun first. I think this is true in the film days. During that time, most film cameras rarely have built in flash. Furthermore, once you decide on the film ISO, youre stuck with it for the whole roll ... unless you push. If you push, then its for the whole roll. Then if you push, the picture come back all grainy one. cry.gif

With digital, you have a lot more flexibility. You can push to ISO 1600 for a single shot. The next shot can bring back down to 200. Most entry level DSLR also have built in flash. Then you can review on the spot how your flash pic turns out. Can try different camera/flash setting to get what you want. hmm.gif

In addition to this, now you can take several shots and post process i.e. vertorama, HDR etc etc.

So you have so many more options now. thumbup.gif But given all these arguments, most people still end up buying the SB-900. doh.gif Maybe Nikon put some nice smelling hallucinogenic chemical compound on the SB-900 box, I dunno. flex.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 14 2009, 08:23 PM)
The standard answer will be buy flashgun first. I think this is true in the film days. During that time, most film cameras rarely have  built in flash. Furthermore, once you decide on the film ISO, youre stuck with it for the whole roll ... unless you push. If you push, then its for the whole roll. Then if you push, the picture come back all grainy one.  cry.gif

With digital, you have a lot more flexibility. You can push to ISO 1600 for a single shot. The next shot can bring back down to 200. Most entry level DSLR also have built in flash. Then you can review on the spot how your flash pic turns out. Can try different camera/flash setting to get what you want.  hmm.gif

In addition to this, now you can take several shots and post process i.e. vertorama, HDR etc etc.

So you have so many more options now.  thumbup.gif But given all these arguments, most people still end up buying the SB-900.  doh.gif Maybe Nikon put some nice  smelling hallucinogenic chemical compound on the SB-900 box, I dunno.  flex.gif
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built in flash cn bounce back ?
i am using D60,i mostly shoot for event and landscape
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built in flash cn bounce back ?
i am using D60,i mostly shoot for event and landscape
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nice.. nicer if u apply rules of third.. get closer with the subject.. just my opinion  tongue.gif
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Ok then ... get the SB-900 and be done with it.  biggrin.gif
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lol . any cheaper ? liek what 622 or sb600 ?
so mean i get flash then lens .

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Need sifu suggestion here. When I shot with flash, All object very clear but the room light was changed to white. sad.gif I wanna shot the photo as attached with remain the light condition(warm) with flash on. What setting should I put?  notworthy.gif

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set WB to flash, then your pic will turn out warm nod.gif (usually la tongue.gif )

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lol . any cheaper ? liek what 622 or sb600 ?
so mean i get flash then lens .
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Nissin Di866 brows.gif (can get at RM900 or less thumbup.gif )

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Nissin Di866 ar,is it form nikon 1 ?
it price almost same with sb600,got what different ?
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Nissin Di866 ar,is it form nikon 1 ?
it price almost same with sb600,got what different ?
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as said, 'Nissin' Di866 sweat.gif
the brand is Nissin, 3rd party brand la...
VERY big difference from SB600 lor
Di866 is as powerful and as good as SB900, some say better
but its low price is due to it is 3rd party brand
if u wan performance of SB900 but cant afford it, go for Di866
if u dun trust 3rd party brand, then go for SB600...

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Di866 got any disadvantaGE ? or got any review form here ?
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I'm still stuck between the SB-600 and the Di866... my budget is arround these speedlites. Any place with good Di866 pricing? I'd like to go try for myself before I decide smile.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 14 2009, 10:51 PM)
I'm still stuck between the SB-600 and the Di866... my budget is arround these speedlites. Any place with good Di866 pricing? I'd like to go try for myself before I decide smile.gif
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looking for ur 2nd flash? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 14 2009, 10:51 PM)
I'm still stuck between the SB-600 and the Di866... my budget is arround these speedlites. Any place with good Di866 pricing? I'd like to go try for myself before I decide smile.gif
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i heard this from another forum
someone got Di866 at RM870 from leos.com @ Ampang Park (cheapest i heard so far)
u can get SB600 at RM700 from Foto Selangor @ Pertama Complex

QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 14 2009, 10:58 PM)
looking for ur 2nd flash?  notworthy.gif
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his old SB-28DX cant work on new DSLRs i think? hmm.gif
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add me as D40x user. thanks tongue.gif

for event shooting,i prefer using SB-900 with battery pack since its much faster than SB-600.
does Di866 can become slave flash for SB-900?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 14 2009, 11:17 PM)
i heard this from another forum
someone got Di866 at RM870 from leos.com @ Ampang Park (cheapest i heard so far)
u can get SB600 at RM700 from Foto Selangor @ Pertama Complex
his old SB-28DX cant work on new DSLRs i think?  hmm.gif
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Btw yeah despite being similar to the SB-800, the SB-80dx doesn't TTL with digital cameras, so looking for something dat's more compatible

QUOTE(faiz92 @ Sep 15 2009, 01:22 AM)
add me as D40x user. thanks tongue.gif

for event shooting,i prefer using SB-900 with battery pack since its much faster than SB-600.
does Di866 can become slave flash for SB-900?
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Do the SB-600 and Di866 have battery packs too? blush.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 14 2009, 10:51 PM)
I'm still stuck between the SB-600 and the Di866... my budget is arround these speedlites. Any place with good Di866 pricing? I'd like to go try for myself before I decide smile.gif
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go for sb-600
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go for sb-600
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 15 2009, 10:43 AM)
the Di866 not good ar bro?
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 15 2009, 12:43 PM)
if u can find the 'legendry-almost-pupus' SB-800, grab it  brows.gif
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I managed to try it during one of my events, a nice dude was kind enuff to lend me his... it was rather similar to the sb-80dx in terms of controls...

Btw, the Di866's specs and features are quite good wor

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QUOTE(dantwt @ Sep 15 2009, 08:29 AM)
Any D3000 owners here joining the Nikon Basic D3000 Workshop in Penang on 7th Nov?

Check out Nikon Malaysia website for details.

KL : 7th and 8th November.
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i want to go...because got cuti..... examination preparation week....hehehehe
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 15 2009, 08:10 AM)
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Do the SB-600 and Di866 have battery packs too? blush.gif
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I dont know about Di866, but what i know is SB-600 dont have battery pack
i prefer u to go for SB-600 since u can use it for CLS in the future rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 12 2009, 03:46 PM)
and/or the 50mm f1.4 AF-S too
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Sep 12 2009, 04:15 PM)
You can go for the 50mm f/1.8 also but you need to manual focus. If you want it to AF (autofocus) on your D3000 body,better choose one of the lens you stated there. thumbup.gif
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yea correct 50mm f1.8 is not bad for beginner use but no auto focus.
If u got better budget please go for f1.4 hoho rclxms.gif
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i still negotiating with my dad to get me the 50mm f/1.4 AF-S >.<
really wan to get it, wish me luck guys! wink.gif

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i tested the Sigma 50mm, n it is really huge n heavy
heavier than kit lens... sweat.gif
the filter size so big, 77mm blink.gif
optics i cant really say which is better, cos limited time n subject to test
but i feel then Nikon AF-S 50mm AF speed is faster
so i still prefer Nikon

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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Sep 15 2009, 02:48 PM)
I dont know about Di866, but what i know is SB-600 dont have battery pack
i prefer u to go for SB-600 since u can use it for CLS in the future rclxms.gif
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Di866 can CLS too... can also become commander... blush.gif
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its either u want to use third part flashgun or not, thats all.. if i were u, i would choose the SB-600.. dont know why, maybe already familiar with it.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 15 2009, 02:56 PM)
i still negotiating with my dad to get me the 50mm f/1.4 AF-S >.<
really wan to get it, wish me luck guys!  wink.gif

@project-o
i tested the Sigma 50mm, n it is really huge n heavy
heavier than kit lens...  sweat.gif
the filter size so big, 77mm  blink.gif
optics i cant really say which is better, cos limited time n subject to test
but i feel then Nikon AF-S 50mm AF speed is faster
so i still prefer Nikon
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think bout color and the focusing~ flex.gif
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any using Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 ?
i heard that it can produce very sharp image
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50mm af-s?
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 15 2009, 03:44 PM)
any using Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 ?
i heard that it can produce very sharp image
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indeed bro..
nice lens for those dun have budget for 17-55..
bokeh not bad too.

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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 15 2009, 03:44 PM)
any using Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 ?
i heard that it can produce very sharp image
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i almost considering this one before.. a good replacement for kitlens nod.gif
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on the safe side better get SB600
cos Di866 now still got some software issues
heard there's problem when pairing up with SB900 for CLS
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 15 2009, 03:49 PM)
on the safe side better get SB600
cos Di866 now still got some software issues
heard there's problem when pairing up with SB900 for CLS
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icic... heard bout it from my fren too... i have 2 frens wif speedlites, one wif a Di866 and the other wif a SB-600... I'm planning to try these 2 more before deciding... nothing beats trying the real thing~

the only things holding me back from the SB-600 are the specs (as compared to the Di866) and also lack things I'm use to like of diffuser & bounce card~ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 15 2009, 04:00 PM)
icic... heard bout it from my fren too... i have 2 frens wif speedlites, one wif a Di866 and the other wif a SB-600... I'm planning to try these 2 more before deciding... nothing beats trying the real thing~

the only things holding me back from the SB-600 are the specs (as compared to the Di866) and also lack things I'm use to like of diffuser & bounce card~ tongue.gif
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then wat is holding u back from getting SB900? brows.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 15 2009, 03:49 PM)
i almost considering this one before.. a good replacement for kitlens  nod.gif
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yes.look very nice.at last u choose what ?

QUOTE(Shiitake @ Sep 15 2009, 03:48 PM)
indeed bro..
nice lens for those dun have budget for 17-55..
bokeh not bad too.
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got what lens is cheaper and nicer than this ? i mostly use for landscape and event photoshooting

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D5000 or D3000...

which to go??

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depends on ur budget .
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 15 2009, 04:08 PM)
then wat is holding u back from getting SB900?  brows.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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lolz yups... price... cos I'm aiming for a prime too~ blush.gif
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What is the meaning of AF-S and AF-A found in Nikon D60? I always set at AF-A with origin 18-55mm. Any diff between both mode? Ori lens supported?
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 15 2009, 04:14 PM)
yes.look very nice.at last u choose what ?
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considering tokina 11-16..  whistling.gif
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ultra wide angel ~
u more in landscape ?
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 15 2009, 08:33 PM)
ultra wide angel ~
u more in landscape ?
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UWA ?
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UWA = University of Western Australia...


no other meaning, *better not knowing than knowing it*. Haha..
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UWA = ultra wide angel AKA plus-size models tongue.gif
UWA = ultra wide angle....

Some, or many, shoot fashion/ed with UWA lenses. I know i do.
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 15 2009, 10:08 PM)
UWA = University of Western Australia...
no other meaning, *better not knowing than knowing it*. Haha..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 15 2009, 10:08 PM)
UWA = University of Western Australia...
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but wat he say is true...
try google jz "UWA" n c wat comes out... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 15 2009, 10:50 PM)
but wat he say is true...
try google jz "UWA" n c wat comes out...  laugh.gif
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Uganda Wildlife Authority laugh.gif
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AF-S = Auto Focus Single shot
AF-A = Auto Focus - Auto Select which means that it switches automatically between AF-S when taking single shots and AF-C (continuous) when taking continuous shots. Setting in AF-A lets the camera decide.
QUOTE(tplcaik @ Sep 15 2009, 04:47 PM)
What is the meaning of AF-S and AF-A found in Nikon D60? I always set at AF-A with origin 18-55mm. Any diff between both mode? Ori lens supported?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 15 2009, 02:56 PM)
i still negotiating with my dad to get me the 50mm f/1.4 AF-S >.<
really wan to get it, wish me luck guys!  wink.gif

Haha... I guess you had the same impression as me especially with the smaller grip cameras like D40/40x/60/5000/3000. Hope you get your new lens soon.
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i tested the Sigma 50mm, n it is really huge n heavy
heavier than kit lens...  sweat.gif
the filter size so big, 77mm  blink.gif
optics i cant really say which is better, cos limited time n subject to test
but i feel then Nikon AF-S 50mm AF speed is faster
so i still prefer Nikon
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finally bought my D5000... love it so much (compare with pentax K100 that i first use)

next: 50mm 1.8 and a flash (thinking of 3rd party instead of nikon)

what u guys think? 3rd party flash or nikon?
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finally bought my D5000... love it so much (compare with pentax K100 that i first use)

next: 50mm 1.8 and a flash (thinking of 3rd party instead of nikon)

what u guys think? 3rd party flash or nikon?
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 15 2009, 03:44 PM)
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i heard that it can produce very sharp image
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Im using it right now.
Tamron have abit of problem when it comes to low light shooting.(focusing problem)
Compare to Nikon f2.8, its much faster in focusing and very good in low light shooting.
but the price tag is.. cry.gif
rm5000+
hhahahaha
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 15 2009, 04:14 PM)
got what lens is cheaper and nicer than this ? i mostly use for landscape and event photoshooting
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ofcourse the famous 50mm..
u more into landscape rite?
then get the UWA..
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^ the 2nd pix u on flash ya?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 15 2009, 02:56 PM)
i still negotiating with my dad to get me the 50mm f/1.4 AF-S >.<
really wan to get it, wish me luck guys!  wink.gif

@project-o
i tested the Sigma 50mm, n it is really huge n heavy
heavier than kit lens...  sweat.gif
the filter size so big, 77mm  blink.gif
optics i cant really say which is better, cos limited time n subject to test
but i feel then Nikon AF-S 50mm AF speed is faster
so i still prefer Nikon
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Please share some pics with us once u got ur f1.4 rclxms.gif goodluck man
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I like ur 1st picture Hellturt smile.gif
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bro, the 1st one look nice..especially the mosque light.what setting u use? shutter speed, aperture, etc...

p/s: btw, im now learning to shoot at night. need advise from sifus... cool2.gif
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rite sifu really need ur help on ma issue.... having this both models as mentioned above in ma mind, about 1/2 hour ago i went to selangor photographers 'duty free' shop at pertama complex.

it was ma 1st time holding such bulky camera in ma hand n having no knowledge before (pratical i mean....).. wat strike me most is... MONEY!! anyway the offer seem to be good... and i have few thing running in ma mind, wic despreeatly neeed advise or suggestion for...

Worry 1
why do tey call te shop 'duty free'? are tey selling te geniune stuffs with local geniune warranty?

Need Suggection
D60 / 1000D without bag and MMC card - RM 1950
D5000 without same above - RM 2700
Wat u guys think on the price m getting? reasonable or way reasonable?

Doubt 1
Why pay high for a camera wic only can zoom few metters away? 3-4 meter.. the both model wic i and the shop fella tested can only zoom miserably with its standard lens kit.. if m not mistaken its 18mm - 55mm...

Possiblity 1
can i buy the body itself and fix a diffrent len... reason is i do not want to have closer zooms... interested in landscaping photography n i need good focus n zoom... te shop fella suggested to buy lens of model 70 - 300mm diffrently tat cost 900 to 1000+..

Need sugestion
pls recommend a gd lens tat can focus far an ideal for landscaping photography + normal photography... wide lens can be used for normal shot?
wer can i get cheap lens, second perhaps...

pls pls have me ur comments n suggestion as i need to buy before end of tis week... goin for place wic has wonderful n marvelous land scaping n buildings....

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QUOTE(Shiitake @ Sep 16 2009, 08:47 AM)
ofcourse the famous 50mm..
u more into landscape rite?
then get the UWA..
huhuh rclxms.gif
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lol . 50mm is ofr potrait right ?
i am more event and landscape
scare UWA cnt take event photo . xp

QUOTE(faiz92 @ Sep 16 2009, 05:34 AM)
Im using it right now.
Tamron have abit of problem when it comes to low light shooting.(focusing problem)
Compare to Nikon f2.8, its much faster in focusing and very good in low light shooting.
but the price tag is.. cry.gif
rm5000+
hhahahaha
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got any sample picture ? or blog ?

This post has been edited by tun: Sep 16 2009, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(paparock @ Sep 16 2009, 11:36 AM)
bro, the 1st one look nice..especially the mosque light.what setting u use? shutter speed, aperture, etc...

p/s: btw, im now learning to shoot at night. need advise from sifus... cool2.gif
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thanks...here's the exif
iso - 200
f/3.5
1 second


QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 16 2009, 12:26 PM)
#2, direct flash?
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yes....very2 noob using speedlight rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gnome827 @ Sep 16 2009, 03:12 PM)
rite sifu really need ur help on ma issue.... having this both models as mentioned above in ma mind, about 1/2 hour ago i went to selangor photographers 'duty free' shop at pertama complex.

it was ma 1st time holding such bulky camera in ma hand n having no knowledge before (pratical i mean....).. wat strike me most is... MONEY!! anyway the offer seem to be good... and i have few thing running in ma mind, wic despreeatly neeed advise or suggestion for...

Worry 1
why do tey call te shop 'duty free'? are tey selling te geniune stuffs with local geniune warranty?

Need Suggection
D60 / 1000D without bag and MMC card - RM 1950
D5000 without same above - RM 2700
Wat u guys think on the price m getting? reasonable or way reasonable?

Doubt 1
Why pay high for a camera wic only can zoom few metters away? 3-4 meter.. the both model wic i and the shop fella tested can only zoom miserably with its standard lens kit.. if m not mistaken its 18mm - 55mm...

Possiblity 1
can i buy the body itself and fix a diffrent len... reason is i do not want to have closer zooms... interested in landscaping photography n i need good focus n zoom... te shop fella suggested to buy lens of model 70 - 300mm diffrently tat cost 900 to 1000+..

Need sugestion
pls recommend a gd lens tat can focus far an ideal for landscaping photography + normal photography... wide lens can be used for normal shot?
wer can i get cheap lens, second perhaps...

pls pls have me ur comments n suggestion as i need to buy before end of tis week... goin for place wic has wonderful n marvelous land scaping n buildings....
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u might want to consider nikkor 18-200mm.. since its wide (not wide like 10mm la) but can zoom up to 200mm..
buy body only, then choose the right lens lah.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 16 2009, 05:45 PM)
thanks...here's the exif
iso - 200
f/3.5
1 second
yes....very2 noob using speedlight rclxub.gif
any advice? notworthy.gif
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use no flash - slower shutter speed? or use flash with diffuser, since the flash on the flower is kinda hard/harsh..

just my 2cent notworthy.gif
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thanks for the advice.. thumbup.gif
i did use the built-in difuser but the light still kinda harsh...
maybe should use the fill-in reflector next time sweat.gif

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QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 16 2009, 07:05 PM)
thanks for the advice.. thumbup.gif
i did use the built-in difuser but the light still kinda harsh...
maybe should use the fill-in reflector next time  sweat.gif
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or dont use flash at all.. laugh.gif
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Can also try the "tupperware" diffuser. It should help to soften the light.
QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 16 2009, 07:05 PM)
thanks for the advice.. thumbup.gif
i did use the built-in difuser but the light still kinda harsh...
maybe should use the fill-in reflector next time  sweat.gif
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Added on September 16, 2009, 9:55 pmThere is a new version of the 17-50 f2.8 that is out with VC (Tamron version of VR). Not sure when it will reach here but there should be improvements to the lens.
QUOTE(faiz92 @ Sep 16 2009, 05:34 AM)
Im using it right now.
Tamron have abit of problem when it comes to low light shooting.(focusing problem)
Compare to Nikon f2.8, its much faster in focusing and very good in low light shooting.
but the price tag is.. cry.gif
rm5000+
hhahahaha
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QUOTE(gnome827 @ Sep 16 2009, 03:12 PM)
rite sifu really need ur help on ma issue.... having this both models as mentioned above in ma mind, about 1/2 hour ago i went to selangor photographers 'duty free' shop at pertama complex.

it was ma 1st time holding such bulky camera in ma hand n having no knowledge before (pratical i mean....).. wat strike me most is... MONEY!! anyway the offer seem to be good... and i have few thing running in ma mind, wic despreeatly neeed advise or suggestion for...

Worry 1
why do tey call te shop 'duty free'? are tey selling te geniune stuffs with local geniune warranty?

Need Suggection
D60 / 1000D without bag and MMC card - RM 1950
D5000 without same above - RM 2700
Wat u guys think on the price m getting? reasonable or way reasonable?

Doubt 1
Why pay high for a camera wic only can zoom few metters away? 3-4 meter.. the both model wic i and the shop fella tested can only zoom miserably with its standard lens kit.. if m not mistaken its 18mm - 55mm...

Possiblity 1
can i buy the body itself and fix a diffrent len... reason is i do not want to have closer zooms... interested in landscaping photography n i need good focus n zoom... te shop fella suggested to buy lens of model 70 - 300mm diffrently tat cost 900 to 1000+..

Need sugestion
pls recommend a gd lens tat can focus far an ideal for landscaping photography + normal photography... wide lens can be used for normal shot?
wer can i get cheap lens, second perhaps...

pls pls have me ur comments n suggestion as i need to buy before end of tis week... goin for place wic has wonderful n marvelous land scaping n buildings....
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the expensive price tag is coz of its body, so wat if its kits lens zoom is lens is less than normal cams?
the main thing is wat DSLRs can do wat basic cams cant do, that is full control of settings
n y u nid big zoom for landscape photography??
the reason y kit lens zoom is limited is cos for daily normal photography wide lens is the 1 needed
if u really wan big zoom, n jz wan to buy the body(only D5000 got sell body only at around RM2.5k),
get 18-200, cos its like 1-11x optical zoom
70-300 zoom is bigger but u can do very wide shots at 70mm, no way u can take group shots or have difficulties getting whole landscape in the pic
My suggestion,
1) buy D5000 body only + 18-200mm VRII lens (RM2.5k + RM2.7k = RM5.2k)
or
2) buy D5000 with kit lens + 55-200mm VR lens (RM2.7k + RM900 = RM3.6k)
or
3) buy D3000 with kit lens + 55-200mm VR lens (RM2k + RM900 = RM2.9k)

dun get the 70-300mm cos it has no VR
VR is like anti-shake mechanism on normal cams
got 70-300mm VR but that cost RM1.9k...
hope this helps icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 16 2009, 09:53 PM)
Can also try the "tupperware" diffuser. It should help to soften the light.
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u mean the "mangkuk" diffuser? tongue.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 16 2009, 03:42 PM)
lol . 50mm is ofr potrait right ?
i am more event and landscape
scare UWA cnt take event photo . xp
got any sample picture ? or blog ?
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I have, but i dont post 'creative' photos here, just for my sister(in NZ) and friends who want to see their pictures
www.flickr.com/faiz92

sorry no creative photo there tongue.gif

UWA can take event photo, well not all the time. sometimes using UWA lens.u can actually get subject.( for me la)
got one of my friend (he is 17years old and using Canon 5d mark II with 70-200mm f2.8 drool.gif )his photo quite dull after few shoots because not much "subject" in his photo
then he change to 17-40 f4, with his full frame camera,his 17mm is really wide and his photo become very nice after that
so the conclusion is, u need a lot of lens for an event tongue.gif
or u also can use the 18-200mm for landscape and event ,but for indoor, f5.6 is not enough for me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

sometimes bro,u have to buy and take few picture first,then u know the 'POWER' rclxms.gif
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I have, but i dont post 'creative' photos here, just for my sister(in NZ) and friends who want to see their pictures
www.flickr.com/faiz92

sorry no creative photo there tongue.gif
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Bro I haven't gone thru much of your shots, but I found sets from this pretty cool~! rclxms.gif

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In fact the kit lens for any lower end camera is just a "starter" lens in the most useful range (28-70 film equivalent). We must also bear in mind that lenses are made in pairs (1 wide + 1 tele) example 18-55 + 55-200 or 18-107 + 70-300. The 18-200VR and VRII is an example of a super zoom lens which works in between 2 lens focal ranges with some compromises. Ultimately it boils down to budget also to mention the new 18-200VRII price can almost get you 18-105+70-300VR.

By "Tupperware" I mean the "Sto-fen" type that looks like a tupperware cover not sure whether it is "mangkuk" or not.

There are some photographers do prefer super wide angle and others do not. Some like to use a telephoto lens for many functions.
QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 16 2009, 11:22 PM)
the expensive price tag is coz of its body, so wat if its kits lens zoom is lens is less than normal cams?
the main thing is wat DSLRs can do wat basic cams cant do, that is full control of settings
n y u nid big zoom for landscape photography??
the reason y kit lens zoom is limited is cos for daily normal photography wide lens is the 1 needed
if u really wan big zoom, n jz wan to buy the body(only D5000 got sell body only at around RM2.5k),
get 18-200, cos its like 1-11x optical zoom
70-300 zoom is bigger but u can do very wide shots at 70mm, no way u can take group shots or have difficulties getting whole landscape in the pic
My suggestion,
1) buy D5000 body only + 18-200mm VRII lens (RM2.5k + RM2.7k = RM5.2k)
or
2) buy D5000 with kit lens + 55-200mm VR lens (RM2.7k + RM900 = RM3.6k)
or
3) buy D3000 with kit lens + 55-200mm VR lens (RM2k + RM900 = RM2.9k)

dun get the 70-300mm cos it has no VR
VR is like anti-shake mechanism on normal cams
got 70-300mm VR but that cost RM1.9k...
hope this helps  icon_rolleyes.gif
u mean the "mangkuk" diffuser?  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 16 2009, 06:42 PM)
u might want to consider nikkor 18-200mm.. since its wide (not wide like 10mm la) but can zoom up to 200mm..
buy body only, then choose the right lens lah..  thumbup.gif
use no flash - slower shutter speed? or use flash with diffuser, since the flash on the flower is kinda hard/harsh..

just my 2cent  notworthy.gif
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thanks bro @ sifu..... very much refreshing now after ur comment... hey is the price reasonable over tat place i mentioned? is it original nikon warranty?
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 17 2009, 06:03 AM)
Bro I haven't gone thru much of your shots, but I found sets from this pretty cool~! rclxms.gif
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thanks!. tamiya is really hard to take, some of the photos not good at large because the car is very fast indeed, and max flash sync is 1/200, so its quite blur sad.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 16 2009, 11:22 PM)
the expensive price tag is coz of its body, so wat if its kits lens zoom is lens is less than normal cams?
the main thing is wat DSLRs can do wat basic cams cant do, that is full control of settings
n y u nid big zoom for landscape photography??
the reason y kit lens zoom is limited is cos for daily normal photography wide lens is the 1 needed
if u really wan big zoom, n jz wan to buy the body(only D5000 got sell body only at around RM2.5k),
get 18-200, cos its like 1-11x optical zoom
70-300 zoom is bigger but u can do very wide shots at 70mm, no way u can take group shots or have difficulties getting whole landscape in the pic
My suggestion,
1) buy D5000 body only + 18-200mm VRII lens (RM2.5k + RM2.7k = RM5.2k)
or
2) buy D5000 with kit lens + 55-200mm VR lens (RM2.7k + RM900 = RM3.6k)
or
3) buy D3000 with kit lens + 55-200mm VR lens (RM2k + RM900 = RM2.9k)

dun get the 70-300mm cos it has no VR
VR is like anti-shake mechanism on normal cams
got 70-300mm VR but that cost RM1.9k...
hope this helps  icon_rolleyes.gif
u mean the "mangkuk" diffuser?  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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thks general_nic.... u made te space wider for me... hmm nw its 3k for me to dig... aiyooo... mmm
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 17 2009, 10:18 AM)
By "Tupperware" I mean the "Sto-fen" type that looks like a tupperware cover not sure whether it is "mangkuk" or not.
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oh, u mean the cap like diffuser
i meant the Lambency diffuser, look like a bowl 1

QUOTE(gnome827 @ Sep 17 2009, 02:23 PM)
thks general_nic.... u made te space wider for me... hmm nw its 3k for me to dig... aiyooo... mmm
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btw, anyone looking for camera bag can have a look at the bag im selling
click the link on my siggy to visit my sales thread!
hope can deal with 1 of u guys, if not can help me bump my thread, thx! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 17 2009, 06:03 AM)
Bro I haven't gone thru much of your shots, but I found sets from this pretty cool~! rclxms.gif

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i wonder how if this toy car is capture with 50mm, f/1.8, kinda tight shot, focus on the flying-car.. drool.gif
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Hey guys,

Wonder if lenses & flash guns (be it nikon, sigma or other 3rd party) in Singapore is cheaper than in Malaysia, especially Penang?

Anyone here wud like to share some comparisons?

Actually looking for :
1) Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX
2) Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5 -6.3
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i wonder how if this toy car is capture with 50mm, f/1.8, kinda tight shot, focus on the flying-car..  drool.gif
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It depends on the camera you are capturing with. If you use the D3 and capture it, sure can wan! Otherwise just make sure park the camera on a tripod and focus in the area. Max burst speed!
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quick one people, is the 50mm f1.8 able to auto-focus with the D5000 or D3000?
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50mm f1.8 cannot AF with D3000 or D5000 due to lack of built in body AF motor.
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thanks celciuz! and if I'm not wrong, the newer 35mm f/1.8G or 50mm f/1.4 are ABLE to AF with those 2 bodies rite?
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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ Sep 17 2009, 06:25 PM)
thanks celciuz! and if I'm not wrong, the newer 35mm f/1.8G or 50mm f/1.4 are ABLE to AF with those 2 bodies rite?
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Yes it is, because both is AF-S lenses.
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Thank you for the prompt replies people!
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 17 2009, 05:56 PM)
It depends on the camera you are capturing with. If you use the D3 and capture it, sure can wan! Otherwise just make sure park the camera on a tripod and focus in the area. Max burst speed!
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im using d40x that time and d40x at higher iso very noisy
so i use iso 800, lock focus at nearest object ,shutter 1/200 with flash bounce on the ceiling
if use d3? no need flash, use iso 2500 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 17 2009, 05:56 PM)
It depends on the camera you are capturing with. If you use the D3 and capture it, sure can wan! Otherwise just make sure park the camera on a tripod and focus in the area. Max burst speed!
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poison detected.. tongue.gif
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haha...mggu lepas survey camera shop , nk survey harge lense ( typical 18-135...i wonder it's still exist?)
lepas tu , jumpe satu kedai ni , luar dier nmpk buruk , mcm nk roboh
tp bile masuk je kedai...pergh..terbaik!!

lense berlambak , tersusun je kat rak
lense 18-135 pon ader...lepas raye mau beli la...
camera pon ader...

haha..luar cam setinggan , dalam mcm kondo
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not bad
got pic which human as model?
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QUOTE(ajoy_sempoi @ Sep 17 2009, 10:02 PM)
haha...mggu lepas survey camera shop , nk survey harge  lense ( typical 18-135...i wonder it's still exist?)
lepas tu , jumpe satu kedai ni , luar dier nmpk buruk , mcm nk roboh
tp bile masuk je kedai...pergh..terbaik!!

lense berlambak , tersusun je kat rak
lense 18-135 pon ader...lepas raye mau beli la...
camera pon ader...

haha..luar cam setinggan , dalam mcm kondo
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dont judge a book by its cover..
whats the shop name?
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18-135 (ipoh shop) selling new with warranty card RM 960. Used between RM 600-750 depending on condition.
QUOTE(ajoy_sempoi @ Sep 17 2009, 10:02 PM)
haha...mggu lepas survey camera shop , nk survey harge  lense ( typical 18-135...i wonder it's still exist?)
lepas tu , jumpe satu kedai ni , luar dier nmpk buruk , mcm nk roboh
tp bile masuk je kedai...pergh..terbaik!!

lense berlambak , tersusun je kat rak
lense 18-135 pon ader...lepas raye mau beli la...
camera pon ader...

haha..luar cam setinggan , dalam mcm kondo
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QUOTE(ajoy_sempoi @ Sep 17 2009, 10:02 PM)
haha...mggu lepas survey camera shop , nk survey harge  lense ( typical 18-135...i wonder it's still exist?)
lepas tu , jumpe satu kedai ni , luar dier nmpk buruk , mcm nk roboh
tp bile masuk je kedai...pergh..terbaik!!

lense berlambak , tersusun je kat rak
lense 18-135 pon ader...lepas raye mau beli la...
camera pon ader...

haha..luar cam setinggan , dalam mcm kondo
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Alaa Ajoy! Kot ye pun takkan la tak reti reti nak bagi nama kedai & lokasi kut tongue.gif Pulun sorang nampak ?? Hihihi
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woah...there's 18-135 lense?
is it good,AF-S or not?
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18-135 is AF-S lens. its the kit lens for d80.
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not bad
got pic which human as model?
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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 18 2009, 03:01 AM)
no... i dont have it.... dont have any model...hehehe drool.gif  drool.gif

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nikon D3000

ISO 3200/HI 1 – f/13 @ 1/640s
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Active D-Lighting Enabled – ISO 200 – f/9 @ 1/320s
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wowww poisoning~!
more photo at D3000 review

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Hi guys, may I know how much the price for D5000 now ? I'm a beginner... just want to ask you guys opinion which 1 I should go for ? since i'm just a student now. Like to take picture.
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d5000 using CMOS which is low noise level at high ISO like D90 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 18 2009, 03:51 AM)
d5000 using CMOS which is low noise level at high ISO like D90  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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how if nikon d3000 compare with canon 1000d can you tell me the different good and bad ? thank you.
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QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 18 2009, 01:14 AM)
woah...there's 18-135 lense?
is it good,AF-S or not?
share the store name, mr ajoy_sempoi
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18-135mm was known as the worst kit lens for nikon in term of sharpness (from wat i read last time)... but i dun think itz true... hmm.gif but of coz, i feel 18-70mm is sharper than 18-135mm... smile.gif

picture below taken using my ex 18-135mm lens...
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 18 2009, 08:52 AM)
18-135mm was known as the worst kit lens for nikon in term of sharpness (from wat i read last time)... but i dun think itz true...  hmm.gif but of coz, i feel 18-70mm is sharper than 18-135mm...  smile.gif

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bro, u sold off your 18-135 lens d?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 18 2009, 09:59 AM)
bro, u sold off your 18-135 lens d?
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 18 2009, 10:10 AM)
yup... now i m using 18-70mm...  tongue.gif
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so far got feel any limitation without big zoom? whistling.gif
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I guess it's a small sacrifice for a faster lens~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 18 2009, 10:27 AM)
poison~!  tongue.gif
so far got feel any limitation without big zoom?  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 18 2009, 11:15 AM)
i m not really fans of zoom lens YET... so not really big deal for me...  laugh.gif
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how if nikon d3000 compare with canon 1000d can you tell me the different good and bad ? thank you. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 18 2009, 11:22 AM)
Bila outing let me play sp90 and try the raynox?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 18 2009, 12:43 PM)
bro illegaldragon sudah beli sp90 meh?
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any d3000 + sb 600 image sample? smile.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 18 2009, 03:16 AM)
ump got lotsa cute girls bro..  laugh.gif
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because my class 95% boy.... cry.gif cry.gif

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When D40 was launch 3 years ago...
Some people see D40 disadvantage was non-built in motor body which is not compatible with some lens. With new AF-S lenses like 10-24mm, 35mm, 50mm, and etc. which would auto focus with any bodies. I do not care if the body does not have build in motor.
Some people said that it is not design for serious photography as it only has basic focusing system, and would use a D200 for something more serious. Now comes D3000, the D40 replacement, which may have the same focusing system as D200 and would be used for serious photography... D3000 is still an entry level and its features are enough to satisfy people.
Congratulation to D3000 owners, may I see more comparison reviews of D3000. Thanks.
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hi guys, just wanna know where do u get nikkor lens review from ? im looking for a website with customer feedback and ratings review.
like sony they have dyxum which i found it extremely useful.

for example this page http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens=315

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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 18 2009, 07:52 AM)
18-135mm was known as the worst kit lens for nikon in term of sharpness (from wat i read last time)... but i dun think itz true...  hmm.gif but of coz, i feel 18-70mm is sharper than 18-135mm...  smile.gif

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how come this is not sharp shakehead.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yuenzhi @ Sep 18 2009, 10:09 PM)
hi guys, just wanna know where do u get nikkor lens review from ? im looking for a website with customer feedback and ratings review.
like sony they have dyxum which i found it extremely useful.

for example this page http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens=315

thanks
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Check my 2nd post at the 1st page. biggrin.gif I've share a few link there.
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*edited* got help from my friend.. hehe biggrin.gif newbie here with D60 lol

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QUOTE(heLLtuRt @ Sep 18 2009, 10:32 PM)
how come this is not sharp shakehead.gif  hmm.gif
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mayb wat they said is rite tat 18-135mm if u think tis is not sharp... but i think itz good enough for a kit lens...
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I feel that to say that the 18-135 is "not sharp" would be an understatement. Having used it for more than a year I feel that it is one of the more consistent lenses and is sharp at practically the whole focal range. To me I feel it should read "not as sharp as some better (maybe also more expensive lenses)".


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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 19 2009, 11:52 AM)
I feel that to say that the 18-135 is "not sharp" would be an understatement. Having used it for more than a year I feel that it is one of the more consistent lenses and is sharp at practically the whole focal range. To me I feel it should read "not as sharp as some better (maybe also more expensive lenses)".
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What its price tag, it's a very decent lens with good coverage. We cant really argue or compare with other lenses with the statement 'not sharp'.

It made for general purpose.
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just get nikon D3000 still playing on it ^^
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QUOTE(andychan @ Sep 19 2009, 07:11 PM)
just get nikon D3000 still playing on it ^^
and i notice it is made in thailand hmmmm
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Don't worry, my D40 is also made in Thailand. So far so good, no prob at all...
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dont worry about where it made(except china mari) but trust the quality from nikon....

anyway so far here got 5 people using d3000....
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please add me in the list TQ ^^

want to ask is it good to put a optical filter?
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There are many kinds of filters. It depends on what kind of filter different filters are for different purposes.
Briefly:

Protective Filters - UV/Skylight/Clear - protects the front element of the lens from dust, grit and damage.
Exposure Filters - ND(Neutral Density)/CPL (Polariser) - reduce brightness of scene so that lower shutter speed can be used.
Colour Correction filters - Change the colour of the final photo (DSLR has white balance so this is not useful).
Effect Filters - Centre spot,wind,diffuser,star etc... - produce artistic effects
Gradient filters - Filter 1/2 the scene eg. Sun on horizon to get better exposure balance.

QUOTE(andychan @ Sep 19 2009, 08:17 PM)
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want to ask is it good to put a optical filter?
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waoh...already 5 people using d3000,congrats guys rclxms.gif
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I also own a D3000. bought 2 weeks ago only.

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Any D40/D40x/D60/D3000 owners has a D70/s? Which ones has better noise control? Found that noise control is very poor. Thanks.
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No hard and fast rule as the algorithms for noise reduction are changed between models. Generally the newer the model the better.
QUOTE(The Apprentice @ Sep 20 2009, 03:26 PM)
Any D40/D40x/D60/D3000 owners has a D70/s? Which ones has better noise control? Found that noise control is very poor. Thanks.
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dang i should've gotten a D3000.. oh well D60 is fine for me too.

wanna seek advice, when taking pictures in low light, like taking shots of people having dinner at a dinner table, what's the best option? without external flash, using D60 and 18-55 VR lens. i know hardware's a limitation, but just trying to know my best option and pushing it to the limit.
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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Sep 22 2009, 12:18 AM)
dang i should've gotten a D3000.. oh well D60 is fine for me too.

wanna seek advice, when taking pictures in low light, like taking shots of people having dinner at a dinner table, what's the best option? without external flash, using D60 and 18-55 VR lens. i know hardware's a limitation, but just trying to know my best option and pushing it to the limit.
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Have you try with a tripod?
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Have you try with a tripod?
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I don't think it's convenient to use a tripod here... He wants to take photos of the people sitting in a table, not like a photoshooting session or studio shoot...

IMO you have some choices:
1. If the place is totally dark, with extremely dim light (very very dim orange light etc) you should use your pop up flash, set the flash compensation to a few stops lower depending on the situation. if you don't like the harsh flash maybe you can DIY a diffuser or bouncer for it. Better, get a cheap external flash like Nissin Di622.

2. If you don't like to use flash, use the widest aperture (lowest F number) and boost up the ISO. But by doing this you will sacrifice the IQ, since the photo will be noisy. Lower the shutter speed to about 1/30~1/50 depending on the situation. Suggestion: use aperture priority mode, uso AUTO ISO and the lowest F number, and let D60 decide the shutter speed. With a steady hand 1/30 should not be a problem

3. Just turn the dial to night mode (no flash), let the automode do the job. (high noise)
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Sep 22 2009, 01:28 AM)
I don't think it's convenient to use a tripod here... He wants to take photos of the people sitting in a table, not like a photoshooting session or studio shoot...

IMO you have some choices:
1. If the place is totally dark, with extremely dim light (very very dim orange light etc) you should use your pop up flash, set the flash compensation to a few stops lower depending on the situation. if you don't like the harsh flash maybe you can DIY a diffuser or bouncer for it. Better, get a cheap external flash like Nissin Di622.

2. If you don't like to use flash, use the widest aperture (lowest F number) and boost up the ISO. But by doing this you will sacrifice the IQ, since the photo will be noisy. Lower the shutter speed to about 1/30~1/50 depending on the situation. Suggestion: use aperture priority mode, uso AUTO ISO and the lowest F number, and let D60 decide the shutter speed. With a steady hand 1/30 should not be a problem

3. Just turn the dial to night mode (no flash), let the automode do the job. (high noise)
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thanks,

1. night mode portrait flash is too harsh lol. DIY diffuser is possible on built-in flash ah? hmm might have a look at the cheap external flash.

2. yeah the high ISO is pretty annoying, pictures turned out grainy. will test the A mode again, i think i did try it just now though, forgot.

3. did end up using the no flash mode, which seemed to be the best. but if the subjects move, the pictures will still end up blurred.

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Sep 22 2009, 01:57 AM)
thanks,

1. hmm might have a look at the cheap external flash.

2. yeah the high ISO is pretty annoying, pictures turned out grainy. will test the A mode again, i think i did try it just now though, forgot.

3. night mode portrait flash is too harsh lol. DIY diffuser is possible on built-in flash ah?
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There's one mode (not night portrait) called AUTO flash off. The icon is like a restricted sign with lightning. It adjusts ISO and shutter speed automatically while not using the flash. So it's more to the auto mode...

There's pop-up flash diffuser for sale, but if i recall correctly it's not cheap/not worth it... try google "nikon pop up flash diffuser" or search in garage sales, i forgot the price. Erm if you want DIY you can try google it, i didn't make one b4 so I don't know.
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from my opinion, we can used 1/30 sec or 1/15 sec, jack up the ISO to 800 and use the highest aperture (smaller number) can do. more body movement forward and backward instead using lense focus. for me, i wud try n error every possible in manual mode drool.gif drool.gif

DIY ur flash using topup card. back of top up card is white color so can bounce the flash. redirect the flash to the ceiling so it can bounce back... diz only works for short distance only... control the flash with exposure level hahahaha

i dont know my tricks can do with u. diz some silly tricks i tried bb4

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Sep 22 2009, 02:01 AM)
There's one mode (not night portrait) called AUTO flash off. The icon is like a restricted sign with lightning. It adjusts ISO and shutter speed automatically while not using the flash. So it's more to the auto mode...

There's pop-up flash diffuser for sale, but if i recall correctly it's not cheap/not worth it... try google "nikon pop up flash diffuser" or search in garage sales, i forgot the price. Erm if you want DIY you can try google it, i didn't make one b4 so I don't know.
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Phottix pop up flash diffuser is around RM35, worth it or not depends on yourself.
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D3000 is better...y go for D60 while the price is almost the same??

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Sep 22 2009, 12:18 AM)
dang i should've gotten a D3000.. oh well D60 is fine for me too.

wanna seek advice, when taking pictures in low light, like taking shots of people having dinner at a dinner table, what's the best option? without external flash, using D60 and 18-55 VR lens. i know hardware's a limitation, but just trying to know my best option and pushing it to the limit.
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Get a monopod should help a lot. biggrin.gif
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from my opinion, we can used 1/30 sec or 1/15 sec, jack up the ISO to 800 and use the highest aperture (smaller number) can do. more body movement forward and backward instead using lense focus. for me, i wud try n error every possible in manual mode  drool.gif  drool.gif

DIY ur flash using topup card. back of top up card is white color so can bounce the flash. redirect the flash to the ceiling so it can bounce back... diz only works for short distance only... control the flash with exposure level hahahaha

i dont know my tricks can do with u. diz some silly tricks i tried bb4
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That's the way to go! thumbup.gif

But when you reflect the flash make sure that the power is sufficient to bounce back and light up the subject. But I'd recommend you to get an external flash. The output will be simply amazing. smile.gif
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Ya ya the reload card will do the job... but only when the ceiling is not too high, if not the effect will be minimized. getting a flashgun is the best and one-time-go solution anyway..
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It is compatible with any Nikon F-mount lens. But if you want to AF with the lens, you have to get a lens with AF motor.
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That's the way to go!  thumbup.gif

But when you reflect the flash make sure that the power is sufficient to bounce back and light up the subject. But I'd recommend you to get an external flash. The output will be simply amazing.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Sep 22 2009, 09:22 PM)
Ya ya the reload card will do the job... but only when the ceiling is not too high, if not the effect will be minimized. getting a flashgun is the best and one-time-go solution anyway..
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Finally getting myself a brand new D3000 tomorrow rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 23 2009, 11:04 PM)
Finally getting myself a brand new D3000 tomorrow  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Btw guys, just wanna ask.. What accessories should i get with the camera? Cheap ones like screen protector etc.. UV filter?
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a bag.. even a cheap one.. u'll need it.. unless u already got a dry box nod.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 23 2009, 11:04 PM)
Finally getting myself a brand new D3000 tomorrow  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Btw guys, just wanna ask.. What accessories should i get with the camera? Cheap ones like screen protector etc.. UV filter?
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Congrats! Hope to see more photos soon biggrin.gif

Hmm... not much photos of late, no new events running eh...
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hi guy's...i planned to get D60 dis weekend..
but when i review the D3000 (just now)..
i noticed that there are a bit different between D60 & D3000..

but the price for D3000 is just vary about RM150 from D60 which i think that it is worth to get D3000 rather than D60 since it is more user friendly, wide LCD screen, and the important one is D3000 got their built in motor in the body...

so i need your advices here to help me to choose between D60 or D3000..which one is worth to have....


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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 23 2009, 11:57 PM)
hi guy's...i planned to get D60 dis weekend..
but when i review the D3000 (just now)..
i noticed that there are a bit different between D60 & D3000..

but the price for D3000 is just vary about RM150 from D60 which i think that it is worth to get D3000 rather than D60 since it is more user friendly, wide LCD screen, and the important one is D3000 got their built in motor in the body...

so i need your advices here to help me to choose between D60 or D3000..which one is worth to have....
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D3000 got no build-in motor as well, but with better spec such as more focus points and so on smile.gif
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Hi...just wanna know what is the best price now for D5000 body only?
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around rm2500
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D3000 got no build-in motor as well, but with better spec such as more focus points and so on smile.gif
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hahaha...i tought that only D40 D40x & D60 got no build-in motor..

if so..that's mean D3000 user still need to look for AF-s lens la (for the future)...

which is more expensive rite...haha...

ayoyo....
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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 23 2009, 11:57 PM)
hi guy's...i planned to get D60 dis weekend..
but when i review the D3000 (just now)..
i noticed that there are a bit different between D60 & D3000..

but the price for D3000 is just vary about RM150 from D60 which i think that it is worth to get D3000 rather than D60 since it is more user friendly, wide LCD screen, and the important one is D3000 got their built in motor in the body...

so i need your advices here to help me to choose between D60 or D3000..which one is worth to have....
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oh come on..if d3000 got built in motor,then those d5000 and d90 can throw away dy...lolx..
for now, is better to get d3000 rather than get d60

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funny how a lot ppl seem to get info that DX000 series got build in AF motor hmm.gif
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May cause by misleading sales person... certainly not by Nikon or forum.
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here is some pic from D3000 rclxms.gif

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guys..check this out

http://www.digitalreview.ca/content/Nikon-....shtml#compared
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erm..u mean there got wrote D3000 come with AF motor??
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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 24 2009, 12:45 AM)
D3000 and 1000D is very very similar in terms of physical-top-body design..
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 24 2009, 02:00 AM)
erm..u mean there got wrote D3000 come with AF motor??
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no la bro...that site just show comparison between D60 D3000 and canon..

so from there u can know is it worth to have D3000 or not..

but that site also stated that D3000 do not have built in motor since they are compatible with AF-S and AF-I lens....
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would like to know what is the price for D3000 body + 18-105mm VR (D90 kit lens)
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would like to know what is the price for D3000 body + 18-105mm VR (D90 kit lens)
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D3000 body about RM1.7k,
18-105 around RM1.2k
so maybe u can get RM2.8-3k

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Nikon, unlike Canon doesn't allow the buyer to choose a kit lens. If Nikon were to come up with such a kit like D3000+ 18-105VR or even the older 18-135 I feel it will be a best seller among the entry level kits.
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come on..i think nikon said it was entry level because the body+lens will be cheap...so if thy make D3000 with 18105, the price would most likely ard 3k++...so most of the people would go for canon or sony as their entry are more cheap by that time...

lets say nikon entry level price at 3k
then sony and canon entry level price ard 2k or less

which would u choose if u r jz new to photography??
of course is 2k or less one,right? that the term for "entry level" =)
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QUOTE(PinKiLicious @ Sep 24 2009, 03:24 AM)
would like to know what is the price for D3000 body + 18-105mm VR (D90 kit lens)
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i think if you wat to start use D3000 better start with 18-55mm VR

that just will cost u about rm2050 ~ rm2100


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QUOTE(persona68 @ Sep 24 2009, 02:12 AM)
notice the d3000 pics arent that sharp though
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If Nikon gives a choice of kit lens it would be good as in 2 packages D3000 + 18-55 or D3000+18-105. But the main reason I feel is that if they do so the 55-200VR lens will not be able to sell well.
QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 24 2009, 11:10 AM)
come on..i think nikon said it was entry level because the body+lens will be cheap...so if thy make D3000 with 18105, the price would most likely ard 3k++...so most of the people would go for canon or sony as their entry are more cheap by that time...

lets say nikon entry level price at 3k
then sony and canon entry level price ard 2k or less

which would u choose if u r jz new to photography??
of course is 2k or less one,right? that the term for "entry level" =)
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The 18-105 & 55-200 range is very different... right?
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Finally, bought my D3000 this morning.. Satisfied with it so far.. Got it with Hoya Pro 1D and cleaning kit nod.gif

Btw, any advice for a beginner? Hehe brows.gif
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lets go to the Full Day Photography workshop for d3000 by nikon....

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where?? free??
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no la... need to pay 20rm....

more info here .... www.nikon.com.my
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But if you have 18-105, not likely you will buy the 55-200. The 70-300 is a better match for the 18-105 but it is much more expensive.
QUOTE(The Apprentice @ Sep 25 2009, 12:14 AM)
The 18-105 & 55-200 range is very different... right?
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Added on September 25, 2009, 9:24 amRM 20 to me is reasonable for a whole day workshop.
QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Sep 25 2009, 02:59 AM)
no la... need to pay 20rm....

more info here .... www.nikon.com.my
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 25 2009, 01:14 AM)
Finally, bought my D3000 this morning.. Satisfied with it so far.. Got it with Hoya Pro 1D and cleaning kit  nod.gif

Btw, any advice for a beginner? Hehe brows.gif
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congrats on the new d3000..
just shoot,shoot,shoot...
and read the manual tongue.gif
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talking about the engine use in camera? which out the sensitivity, color crisp, capture light in dark ...

different of CCD & CMOS?
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CMOS sensor(complimentary metal oxide semiconductor) consume less energy, perform better in low light, but cost more
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 25 2009, 02:14 AM)
Finally, bought my D3000 this morning.. Satisfied with it so far.. Got it with Hoya Pro 1D and cleaning kit  nod.gif

Btw, any advice for a beginner? Hehe brows.gif
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advice? simple.. read the provided manual laugh.gif

QUOTE(andylim2000 @ Sep 25 2009, 10:11 AM)
talking about the engine use in camera? which out the sensitivity, color crisp, capture light in dark ...

different of CCD & CMOS?
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go for the class...rm20 only...i went to the D60 workshop and got models shooting...first time in my life very enjoyable.
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QUOTE(mybiebie @ Sep 25 2009, 02:23 PM)
go for the class...rm20 only...i went to the D60 workshop and got models shooting...first time in my life very enjoyable.
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share us the pics tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mybiebie @ Sep 25 2009, 02:23 PM)
go for the class...rm20 only...i went to the D60 workshop and got models shooting...first time in my life very enjoyable.
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Anyone know the D40 and D3000 grip different? Thanks.
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Guys, am a D40 user and gonna shoot my company event next week in a hotal ballroom. Would like to ask for you guys opinion for which combination is most suitable for the event:-

1. Di622 with 18-55
2. Di622 with Sigma 18-200
3. Di622 with 35 1.8

Thanks in advance.
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going to sell my D60 after getting D90..
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QUOTE(The Apprentice @ Sep 25 2009, 05:19 PM)
Anyone know the D40 and D3000 grip different? Thanks.
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what grip do u mean?
if u mean body grip, both r similar in body size, the grip sure not much difference

QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 25 2009, 09:09 PM)
Hey guys, any views on the Metz mecablitz 48 AF-1 speedlite ar? I was browsing online and stumbled upon it... does seem tempting. Wonder how it fares against the SB-600 and Nissin Di866...
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well, it depends on what functions n flash power u nid
Metz 48 is similar to SB600 in specs, but cheaper than SB600, but the quality is competitive to SB600
Di866 however is high power flash like SB900 at the price close to SB600 n Metz48
quality n functions wise, Metz & Nikon r better
but if want powerful flash on par with SB900, get Di866
Jz my opinion nod.gif

QUOTE(ck77 @ Sep 25 2009, 09:14 PM)
Guys, am a D40 user and gonna shoot my company event next week in a hotal ballroom. Would like to ask for you guys opinion for which combination is most suitable for the event:-

1. Di622 with 18-55
2. Di622 with Sigma 18-200
3. Di622 with 35 1.8

Thanks in advance.
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i think u dun quite nid 18-200, cos it is an indoor event n u'll be shooting portraits n group pics, hardly nid to zoom
unless u nid to zoom up to the stage la if there is 1...

35 1.8 will be my choice, but if take group pics u nid step back a few steps la
18-55 is more flexible, can zoom in or take group pics easily
but 35 1.8 pics output r nicer
Jz my humble opinion nod.gif


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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Sep 25 2009, 09:55 PM)
going to sell my D60 after getting D90..
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'selling', not 'going to sell' la
since u 'got' your D90 d, not 'getting' it tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
finally u made the big leap! congratz! rclxms.gif
although i know the news from D90 thread d tongue.gif

keep your D60 as backup cam la, y sell when u bought D90 d...
most ppl sell b4 buying for funds...
or u want to fund for new lenses? brows.gif

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In my opinion the 35 f1.8 enables higher shutter speeds and lower ISO also less flash power needs. I would go with that + a combination of a standard wide zoom (18-70/18-55). Anyway... I just started using the Nissin Di-622 the performance is pretty impressive and should have enough power.
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Guys, am a D40 user and gonna shoot my company event next week in a hotal ballroom. Would like to ask for you guys opinion for which combination is most suitable for the event:-

1. Di622 with 18-55
2. Di622 with Sigma 18-200
3. Di622 with 35 1.8

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 25 2009, 10:00 PM)
Metz 48 is similar to SB600 in specs, but cheaper than SB600, but the quality is competitive to SB600
Di866 however is high power flash like SB900 at the price close to SB600 n Metz48
quality n functions wise, Metz & Nikon r better
but if want powerful flash on par with SB900, get Di866
Jz my opinion  nod.gif
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thanks for the opinion... kinda leaning towards the Di866, as my budget is around rm900+ i like it's features but heard the build qualitry of the metz is good... wonder which will be the best bang for the money...

my usage is quite varied, from night-time club events to outdoor/indoor events and even food reviews. kinda tricky to decide tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Sep 25 2009, 09:55 PM)
going to sell my D60 after getting D90..



your D60 consider sold lah~~

your buyer won't FFK wan smile.gif

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I'm not sure about the newer versions of Metz flashes build quality but I have a really old Metz flash which is more than 10 years old (not sure of exact age) and still works well till today. The thing I like most about this flash which is use as an extra fill slave is that it gives off a soft-ish light even without a diffuser smile.gif

What I'm interested in the Di866 besides the power is how well the "sub" flash works. This is used in the Metz 58 series and earlier Nikon flashes to have a built in fill light.
QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 25 2009, 11:42 PM)
thanks for the opinion... kinda leaning towards the Di866, as my budget is around rm900+ i like it's features but heard the build qualitry of the metz is good... wonder which will be the best bang for the money...

my usage is quite varied, from night-time club events to outdoor/indoor events and even food reviews. kinda tricky to decide tongue.gif
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Does D3000 has the same body ergonomics as D40/x/60? The buttons seem abit different...
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Guys, which external flash is the cheapest for D3000? Thanks btw..
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Guys, which external flash is the cheapest for D3000? Thanks btw..
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Nissin Di622 as recommended earlier, although i haven't got 1 yet.
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Nissin Di622 as recommended earlier, although i haven't got 1 yet.
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i bought rm 430 at foto edar BB plaza
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'lucky' price rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
no matter how expensive in whichever state in MY, shud not more than RM500
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 25 2009, 10:00 PM)
i think u dun quite nid 18-200, cos it is an indoor event n u'll be shooting portraits n group pics, hardly nid to zoom
unless u nid to zoom up to the stage la if there is 1...

35 1.8 will be my choice, but if take group pics u nid step back a few steps la
18-55 is more flexible, can zoom in or take group pics easily
but 35 1.8 pics output r nicer
Jz my humble opinion
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In my opinion the 35 f1.8 enables higher shutter speeds and lower ISO also less flash power needs. I would go with that + a combination of a standard wide zoom (18-70/18-55). Anyway... I just started using the Nissin Di-622 the performance is pretty impressive and should have enough power.
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Thanks guys for the opinion. One more question, A or S mode better?
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QUOTE(ck77 @ Sep 26 2009, 06:51 PM)
Thanks guys for the opinion. One more question, A or S mode better?
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i think M mode will be better,haha

QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Sep 26 2009, 12:58 AM)
wahhh i really wish i got D3000 then can go for workshop sad.gif
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sell ur d60 then buy d3000,haha
so far i still satisfy with my d60,just bought 3 weeks i think

comment me !
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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 26 2009, 10:26 PM)
i think M mode will be better,haha
sell ur d60 then buy d3000,haha
so far i still satisfy with my d60,just bought 3 weeks i think

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lol can't la.. so susah go buy then sell.. i'm happy with it anyway.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1175345
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 26 2009, 04:09 PM)
around RM450-500  nod.gif
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Performance? Worth the money?  hmm.gif
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performance wise.. you get what you paid for.. probably almost as good as sb600.. But in terms of build quality sb600 wins hands down..

For long term usage better get sb600.. smile.gif If you got the money that is..
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what i heard is nissin 622 software not really stable
dont really get the meaning,can someone explain it here ?
i am considering 622 or sb600 only

and,something want ask,i see those people put theur external flash on a stand ,then put floor
like wireless flash ar ? is it ?

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QUOTE(tun @ Sep 27 2009, 04:23 PM)
what i heard is nissin 622 software not really stable
dont really get the meaning,can someone explain it here ?
i am considering 622 or sb600 only

and,something want ask,i see those people put theur external flash on a stand ,then put floor
like wireless flash ar ? is it ?
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yeah,wireless flash. usually for modeling or groupfoto.

My example when using SB-900 and SB-600 ( last time D40x no commander mode like D90) tongue.gif

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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Sep 28 2009, 12:02 AM)
yeah,wireless flash. usually for modeling or groupfoto.

My example when using SB-900 and SB-600 ( last time D40x no commander mode like D90) tongue.gif

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performance wise.. you get what you paid for.. probably almost as good as sb600.. But in terms of build quality sb600 wins hands down..

For long term usage better get sb600..  smile.gif  If you got the money that is..
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guys...just wondering if there any thread that only discuss on D3000...?


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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 28 2009, 01:17 AM)
guys...just wondering if there any thread that only discuss on D3000...?
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everybody... i need help.

i just bought a D5000 a week ago. my next purchase will be an external flash and a lens. i was thinking of 50mm 1.8 coz it's the cheapest and i'm looking for a lens with big aperture. the thing is, i just noticed that this lens is not a af-s lens and i will not be able to have auto focus. the af-s 50mm 1.4 is way too expensive...

now, my problem is, i notice that af-s lenses are at lease 2-3 times more expensive then af lenses... meaning that i have to fork out so much money if i wanted to pruchase lens. will it be better to buy a D90 instead? (at least i can save up on lenses) or just go canon? (nikon's 50mm 1.8 = RM380, canon 50mm 1.8 = RM340)


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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 28 2009, 01:17 AM)
guys...just wondering if there any thread that only discuss on D3000...?
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what you want to specifically talk about? all of the models in this thread are roughly alike, so it's ok.


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QUOTE(silver_de_gene @ Sep 28 2009, 01:47 AM)
everybody... i need help.

i just bought a D5000 a week ago. my next purchase will be an external flash and a lens. i was thinking of 50mm 1.8 coz it's the cheapest and i'm looking for a lens with big aperture. the thing is, i just noticed that this lens is not a af-s lens and i will not be able to have auto focus. the af-s 50mm 1.4 is way too expensive...

now, my problem is, i notice that af-s lenses are at lease 2-3 times more expensive then af lenses... meaning that i have to fork out so much money if i wanted to pruchase lens. will it be better to buy a D90 instead? (at least i can save up on lenses) or just go canon? (nikon's 50mm 1.8 = RM380, canon 50mm 1.8 = RM340)
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it's a good time to start practising your manual focus i think.. i'm planning to get the 50mm 1.8 too.

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QUOTE(silver_de_gene @ Sep 28 2009, 01:47 AM)
everybody... i need help.

i just bought a D5000 a week ago. my next purchase will be an external flash and a lens. i was thinking of 50mm 1.8 coz it's the cheapest and i'm looking for a lens with big aperture. the thing is, i just noticed that this lens is not a af-s lens and i will not be able to have auto focus. the af-s 50mm 1.4 is way too expensive...

now, my problem is, i notice that af-s lenses are at lease 2-3 times more expensive then af lenses... meaning that i have to fork out so much money if i wanted to pruchase lens. will it be better to buy a D90 instead? (at least i can save up on lenses) or just go canon? (nikon's 50mm 1.8 = RM380, canon 50mm 1.8 = RM340)
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Since u have bought D5000, keep the camera and practising on the manual focus.
If u havent bought D5000, I would recommend just staright go for D90
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Manual focus will be challenging as one has to depend on the built in rangefinder. These focusing screens without the "split screen" are not designed for manual focus.
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I am wondering why D60 & D3000 don't have live view features? If compared with Canon, Sony etc., for entry level did they have live view?
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many ppl suggest to use manual focus, but when u really use it in some event n outing, u will kno itz not easy... most of the pic u took will be blur, n even u got a sharp pic, u would probably miss out a lot of chances of nice shot...
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 28 2009, 11:09 AM)
many ppl suggest to use manual focus, but when u really use it in some event n outing, u will kno itz not easy... most of the pic u took will be blur, n even u got a sharp pic, u would probably miss out a lot of chances of nice shot...
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I agree... cos I cover event often, it's not easy to constantly manual focus... often u can miss the shot altogether
A nice chap lent me his 50mm f1.8 once and I tried it and it was pretty challenging...
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Why don't get the 35mm f1.8? This is the cheapest AF prime lens for D5000.
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QUOTE(a_syazwan @ Sep 28 2009, 11:08 AM)
I am wondering why D60 & D3000 don't have live view features? If compared with Canon, Sony etc., for entry level did they have live view?
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D60 is an old model.. D3000 is a lower-end of D5000.. live view? D5000, D90
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Why don't get the 35mm f1.8? This is the cheapest AF prime lens for D5000.
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ya,agree with you,instead of 50mm,why dont go for 35mm afs,sometime very difficult to manual focus because mostly picture not clear and easily miss the nice shoot
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i using d60 with 50mm 1.8, kit lens 18-55mm and 70 -300mm manual also...for fast action i use the kit lens but for potrait and still items using the 50mm 1.8 is wonderful. Excellent photos i feel for my standard of course. No regrets buying although manual focus but worth every penny.
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D60 is an old model.. D3000 is a lower-end of D5000.. live view? D5000, D90
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Marketing stretegy lo... they want you to upgrade bodies lol.

Guys how much are d3000 kits worth now ? Im planning to change systems... i bought my Olympus just not too long ago and out pops a D3000.... haihz... shouldve waited... doh.gif

I think Nikon is more worth it in the long run... since four-thirds lenses cost a bomb. sad.gif

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I'll get my Nissin Flash soon rclxm9.gif

Btw guys, how much does a zoom lens(200mm) cost for D3000? The one with AutoFocus that is.. Just asking though.. whistling.gif
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Which Nissin ? Di 622 or Di866 ? I guess you mean the 55-200VR should be around RM 900 average price.
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 28 2009, 07:59 PM)
I'll get my Nissin Flash soon  rclxm9.gif

Btw guys, how much does a zoom lens(200mm) cost for D3000? The one with AutoFocus that is.. Just asking though.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 28 2009, 07:59 PM)
I'll get my Nissin Flash soon  rclxm9.gif

Btw guys, how much does a zoom lens(200mm) cost for D3000? The one with AutoFocus that is.. Just asking though.. whistling.gif
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u mean all-round lens like 18-200mm??
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 28 2009, 08:02 PM)
Which Nissin ? Di 622 or Di866 ? I guess you mean the 55-200VR should be around RM 900 average price.
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Di 622.. I thought of getting SB600 but it's out of my budget sad.gif Oic.. Rm900 is quite cheap for a zoom lens right? Maybe I'll get it in the future biggrin.gif

QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Sep 28 2009, 08:13 PM)
u mean all-round lens like 18-200mm??
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
Di 622.. I thought of getting SB600 but it's out of my budget  sad.gif Oic.. Rm900 is quite cheap for a zoom lens right? Maybe I'll get it in the future biggrin.gif
If all-round type then how much?  hmm.gif
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18-200 VR is about 2.5-3k
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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 28 2009, 05:09 PM)
Marketing stretegy lo... they want you to upgrade bodies lol.

Guys how much are d3000 kits worth now ?  Im planning to change systems... i bought my Olympus just not too long ago and out pops a D3000.... haihz... shouldve waited...    doh.gif

I think Nikon is more worth it in the long run... since four-thirds lenses cost a bomb.  sad.gif
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so fast want jump ship d? laugh.gif
but y last time u looking for D40 instead of D60 which is similar to D3000?
btw, u better be sure about jumping to Nikon, Nikon AF-S lenses costs lots of bombs... whistling.gif
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Just wondering. RM 1.7K for a used 18-200VR is considered cheap then ?
QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Sep 29 2009, 12:01 AM)
18-200 VR is about 2.5-3k
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1.7k for 18-200 is cheap, but check the condition first.

D3000 is around 2k kit, i got one for a friend at 2090 including 4gb, bag, filter, and tripod. I'd say the d3000 is like a d60 on steroids
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anyone knows if i can get a D60 kit for RM1850?? what's d lowest price now for D60 kit + 4gb mem card + dslr bag?
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y bother getting D60 anymore?? GET D3000!!!
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 29 2009, 04:47 PM)
y bother getting D60 anymore?? GET D3000!!!
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coz budget constraint lo...i've jus like RM1800+...so if D60 is available with tat price then i can go for it jor..plan 2 get it for myself as bday gift nxt month..
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aiya..save 200 more and u can get better spec..just my opinion...if u really so tight on budget, then i have nothing else to say...=)

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just save some more and get D3000 or D5000. D60 is so limited though i still love it thumbup.gif
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ok...i'll try my best then...=p thx 4 d opinion!
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ok...i'll try my best then...=p thx 4 d opinion!
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bro..u can get brand new D60 at rm1850 include the uv filter at photo edar bb plaza..but u have to make a deal first with guy called cerris....
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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 29 2009, 07:09 PM)
bro..u can get brand new D60 at rm1850 include the uv filter at photo edar bb plaza..but u have to make a deal first with guy called cerris....
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is it??how i find this guy?and it is genuine?new?
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is it??how i find this guy?and it is genuine?new?
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its a brand new bro...but..i dont know they still got stock or not..

last week i go to their shop to get my d3000 and they said they just got only 1 for d60 which is the last one in their shop...

just take this number 0129258138..ceriss.
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QUOTE(epet24 @ Sep 29 2009, 07:23 PM)
its a brand new bro...but..i dont know they still got stock or not..

last week i go to their shop to get my d3000 and they said they just got only 1 for d60 which is the last one in their shop...

just take this number 0129258138..ceriss.
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wow...okok,thanks a lot bro! notworthy.gif
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wow...okok,thanks a lot bro! notworthy.gif
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oraitt..ur most welcome..hehe

btw..if the stuff sold already..i suggest u to get d3000 at rm2050 bro....
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Guys, someone is selling his Nikon SB600 for RM500.. He said the condition is 8/10.. But it's 2 years+ already.. Is it worth it? Or better get Nissin Di622? hmm.gif
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Wow... RM500 sounds attractive... but I dono wat to look for when it comes to 2nd hand flash (me looking to buy a speedlite soon too)
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 29 2009, 10:24 PM)
Wow... RM500 sounds attractive... but I dono wat to look for when it comes to 2nd hand flash (me looking to buy a speedlite soon too)
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I'm scared use for a while the kaboom.. Haha biggrin.gif

Btw, now I feel that I want live-view cry.gif
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I'm scared use for a while the kaboom.. Haha  biggrin.gif

Btw, now I feel that I want live-view  cry.gif
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hehe i only use live view for high and low angle shots... and of course video tongue.gif
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I'm scared use for a while the kaboom.. Haha  biggrin.gif

Btw, now I feel that I want live-view  cry.gif
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i know a way to get live view...no nid buy new camera...live view through your eye tongue.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Sep 29 2009, 05:11 PM)
coz budget constraint lo...i've jus like RM1800+...so if D60 is available with tat price then i can go for it jor..plan 2 get it for myself as bday gift nxt month..
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get D3000 ler... 11 AF points and 3 AF points... big defference, numbers la at least... screen also bigger... i get my D3000 kit RM1950 with 4GB and bag.... after bday also can get gift.... smile.gif
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Used flash quite a lot depends on luck as the only way to test it is to repeatedly fire the flash and see if it overheats. I do have a more than 10 year old metz flash that still works well and also have a really old minolta flash that I bought a couple of years ago. But anyway, the Nissin Di-622 is a very decent flash for the price if you are worried about condition of the used flashes this is a good choice at that price.
QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 29 2009, 10:24 PM)
Wow... RM500 sounds attractive... but I dono wat to look for when it comes to 2nd hand flash (me looking to buy a speedlite soon too)
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How's the reviews from D3000 users? Just read this today: http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3000/high-iso-comparison.htm

Seems like D3000 doesn't work too well at high ISO.
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 30 2009, 10:37 AM)
Used flash quite a lot depends on luck as the only way to test it is to repeatedly fire the flash and see if it overheats. I do have a more than 10 year old metz flash that still works well and also have a really old minolta flash that I bought a couple of years ago.  But anyway, the Nissin Di-622 is a very decent flash for the price if you are worried about condition of the used flashes this is a good choice at that price.
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I'm aiming for the Di866 actually... should have similar build quality as the Di622 rite?


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Me still bad with night event photography though... really need to get a speedlite or a faster lens~

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Guys which one is better? D5000 or 500D? Someone asked me hmm.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 30 2009, 08:01 PM)
Guys which one is better? D5000 or 500D? Someone asked me hmm.gif
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This is a Nikon thread, what do you expect??
Please go and ask uncle Google yawn.gif
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QUOTE(jayjenxi @ Sep 30 2009, 01:11 PM)
How's the reviews from D3000 users? Just read this today: http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3000/high-iso-comparison.htm

Seems like D3000 doesn't work too well at high ISO.
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when hi iso will be useful? still learning... normally we'll taking pictures on low iso rite?
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when hi iso will be useful? still learning... normally we'll taking pictures on low iso rite?
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low light conditions.. google up to understand what is iso for..
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I'm guessing at that price Di866 should be better in build quality than the Di622.
QUOTE(raptorclans @ Sep 30 2009, 01:11 PM)
I'm aiming for the Di866 actually... should have similar build quality as the Di622 rite?

Added on September 30, 2009, 10:49 pmFrom the comparison in Ken Rockwell's site, it would seem to me like the D40 and D3000 are using 2 different noise reduction algorithms. The comparison seems to be in one particular lighting condition so I don't think it is enough to draw a conclusion on the noise reduction performance of the 2 cameras.
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when hi iso will be useful? still learning... normally we'll taking pictures on low iso rite?
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 30 2009, 10:44 PM)
I'm guessing at that price Di866 should be better in build quality than the Di622.

Added on September 30, 2009, 10:49 pmFrom the comparison in Ken Rockwell's site, it would seem to me like the D40 and D3000 are using 2 different noise reduction algorithms. The comparison seems to be in one particular lighting condition so I don't think it is enough to draw a conclusion on the noise reduction performance of the 2 cameras.
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i dont have D40 comparison but i have D60 and D3000 ISO comparison... wanna check it out? comparison between D60, D3000 n canon rebel xs

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Guys i don't know why but i can't attach or send an email to the address that Nikon gave us for the KL workshop.. Anyone facing the same prob? Can someone give me the address? Coz maybe i got the wrong one doh.gif
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Bought D5000 days before raya for the swivel LCD and interval shooting mode. Here's my first attempt at interval shooting mode. Frames taken at 30-seconds interval - should've use 10-seconds instead.

How do we capture the frames so that the colors are consistent?



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How do we capture the frames so that the colors are consistent?
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Use manual for interval shooting mode, esp white balance must be manual.
remember to try few shot before use manual.have fun trying smile.gif
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If the D40/ D3000 ISO review is true, then D3000 1600 ISO is hard to use. May I know how often people here shoot using 1600 ISO? Thanks. smile.gif

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low light conditions.. google up to understand what is iso for..
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i did googled and generally i know what iso is for... but i want to know, from any of your experience, how often and useful is the hi iso (1600 above) in taking pictures. generally hi iso will introduce noise... would it be better if we introduce more light (external flash, etc) instead of increasing ISO?
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 1 2009, 09:08 AM)
i did googled and generally i know what iso is for... but i want to know, from any of your experience, how often and useful is the hi iso (1600 above) in taking pictures. generally hi iso will introduce noise... would it be better if we introduce more light (external flash, etc) instead of increasing ISO?
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ok..that mean u not really understand what iso is...well..if we have external flash, y we want to increase the iso so high?? yes, high iso will have more noise, but that is for when u in low light condition and dont have external flash...well, my opinion, actually the iso is depend on user, if u feel the high iso is having too much noise that u cant accept, well, go get external flash..=)
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Oct 1 2009, 10:03 AM)
ok..that mean u not really understand what iso is...well..if we have external flash, y we want to increase the iso so high?? yes, high iso will have more noise, but that is for when u in low light condition and dont have external flash...well, my opinion, actually the iso is depend on user, if u feel the high iso is having too much noise that u cant accept, well, go get external flash..=)
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Great explaination but for the last one got abit problem.

My opinion with external flash is sometimes the flash can only highlight nearest subject, how about the background?thats why we use High iso to highlight some details on the back.

For example,in the hall with high ceiling,we know that our flash cant bounce that high and have to use exposure lock button(to use the flash as fill flash), the shutter speed will be too slow and the subject will become like blur blur.This is when the High Iso can do its job.

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well..that just my opinion...because i dont have any dslr yet...=)
so some of the fact is i knew from web and some is i self conclude...XD
still v. v. v. new to dslr thing...=)
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WHAT? u dont have DSLR and already know the usage of iso? blink.gif wow. u better get D90 as fast as u can rclxms.gif

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just know a little bit lah..not really much...i did my research before decide to get a dslr...there is a web that teach me a lot of thing...well,i think that is for buying guide, but if u want, here it is..the web really poison me a lots..hehe...

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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 1 2009, 11:26 AM)
Great explaination but for the last one got abit problem.

My opinion with external flash is sometimes the flash can only highlight nearest subject, how about the background?thats why we use High iso to highlight some details on the back.

For example,in the hall with high ceiling,we know that our flash cant bounce that high and have to use exposure lock button(to use the flash as fill flash), the shutter speed will be too slow and the subject will become like blur blur.This is when the High Iso can do its job.

My 2 cent, still young and learning.Hope some taiko can teach me more stuff. notworthy.gif
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That's right. Yesterday I just went Jalan Alor after going lowyat to eat, and when I captured my friends in ISO 200 with external flash only my friend and then table were illuminated, the background is very dark... Increased to ISO 400 then ok le ^.^ Still learning to shoot in dark condition~
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bro,
how much is D40 and D40x these days. just wanna do quick check up. afraid that those selling in garage sales in overpriced.
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bro,
how much is D40 and D40x these days. just wanna do quick check up. afraid that those selling in garage sales in overpriced.
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Hmm D40 I saw RM17xx in plaza lowyat, but that one is old price, not yet ask cash price. Cash price and after negotiate should be Rm1500+
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can still use big aperture if dun have external flash n dun wan use high ISO wink.gif
but big aperture lenses price almost like external flash price la... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 1 2009, 01:35 PM)
can still use big aperture if dun have external flash n dun wan use high ISO  wink.gif
but big aperture lenses price almost like external flash price la...  whistling.gif
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AFS 50mm F1.4 or AF 85mm F1.4? or maybe AF135mm F2? HAHAHAHAH tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Oct 1 2009, 12:47 PM)
bro,
how much is D40 and D40x these days. just wanna do quick check up. afraid that those selling in garage sales in overpriced.
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why not getting D60 or D3000 instead of D40? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
jz ask D60 RM1.9K and D3000 RM2K b4 nego.. i bet price can be lower if nego kaw kaw
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Oct 1 2009, 02:05 PM)
why not getting D60 or D3000 instead of D40?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
jz ask D60 RM1.9K and D3000 RM2K b4 nego.. i bet price can be lower if nego kaw kaw
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and which shop is good/trustworthy around bangi/puchong eh? mines ok? got fotokem there.

i will do quick checkout there tonite.

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bangi at warta got 1. level 1. btol2 dpn escalator.. bangi can call me for outing hahah
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Oct 1 2009, 02:22 PM)
and which shop is good/trustworthy around bangi/puchong eh? mines ok? got fotokem there.

i will do quick checkout there tonite.
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Hi guys, i'm planing to buy either d60 or d3000 in a week or two. Is there any guide that can help me from being cheated, e.g, secondhand camera or stolen camera. And how can i check shutter count of the camera i'm buying (d60 or d3000) on the spot.
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Oct 1 2009, 02:22 PM)
and which shop is good/trustworthy around bangi/puchong eh? mines ok? got fotokem there.

i will do quick checkout there tonite.
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warta shop at level 1, D60 and D3000 selling at the same price. RM1999 for body + kit lense + 4GB + bag
do let me know first so i can tell the boss to give u best price smile.gif
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QUOTE(ne3ro @ Oct 2 2009, 01:24 AM)
Hi guys, i'm planing to buy either d60 or d3000 in a week or two. Is there any guide that can help me from being cheated, e.g, secondhand camera or stolen camera. And how can i check shutter count of the camera i'm buying (d60 or d3000)  on the spot.
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u plan to buy a new 1?? or what?? if new one, just on the camera and if it ask u to set the time and date, mean it is a new one...it also mean SC=0
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QUOTE(ne3ro @ Oct 2 2009, 01:24 AM)
Hi guys, i'm planing to buy either d60 or d3000 in a week or two. Is there any guide that can help me from being cheated, e.g, secondhand camera or stolen camera. And how can i check shutter count of the camera i'm buying (d60 or d3000)  on the spot.
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im in same situation with u now.

doing some research and found out the comparison here

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_po..._d3000&show=all

but any current user here wanna share his own experiece?

that will be more useful rather than reading the specs only.

n one more thing, can a beginner survive without the AF motor on certain lens? rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Oct 2 2009, 10:14 AM)
warta shop at level 1, D60 and D3000 selling at the same price. RM1999 for body + kit lense + 4GB + bag
do let me know first so i can tell the boss to give u best price smile.gif
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hey bro,seriously?if like that, i confirm will go perhaps this weekend.

btw, r u using D60 too?

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he is using D90...
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Oct 2 2009, 12:56 PM)
im in same situation with u now.

doing some research and found out the comparison here

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_po..._d3000&show=all



hey bro,seriously?if like that, i confirm will go perhaps this weekend.

btw, r u using D60 too?
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i want to know what exactly difference between 35 and 50 mm f1.8 lens?


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different zoom? tongue.gif haha never try on this. wannt to know also
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More zoom,more bokeh. U may try 17-50mm F2.8 and try to use at 17mm and 50mm,
assume that aperture is always F2.8, at 50mm, the picture looks more bokeh.
thats why some people use 70-200mm F2.8 for studio picture,so that the background more bokeh. smile.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 1 2009, 01:35 PM)
can still use big aperture if dun have external flash n dun wan use high ISO  wink.gif
but big aperture lenses price almost like external flash price la...  whistling.gif
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T_T, i aiming 50mm 1.8.... no money ...
external flash sb600 also more expensive than 50mm sad.gif
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Both of these are "Normal" lenses which are close to our eye viewing angle. 35 is for DX Crop frame and 50 is for full frame (FX). A 50mm will have approx 75mm viewing angle on DX body whereas 35mm DX prime lens will have approx 50mm viewing angle on FX body.
QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Oct 2 2009, 03:41 PM)
i want to know what exactly difference between 35 and 50 mm f1.8 lens?
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Sep 28 2009, 11:09 AM)
many ppl suggest to use manual focus, but when u really use it in some event n outing, u will kno itz not easy... most of the pic u took will be blur, n even u got a sharp pic, u would probably miss out a lot of chances of nice shot...
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Agree too.
Moments that you took your photo is really important, as without AF-S, it's really a fuss and missed out alot of nice shot.
But, if with a non-af ability body, manual focus is the way, until you upgrade to next body which will have built in af motor =)
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:18 PM)
More zoom,more bokeh. U may try 17-50mm F2.8 and try to use at 17mm and 50mm,
assume that aperture is always F2.8, at 50mm, the picture looks more bokeh.
thats why some people use 70-200mm F2.8 for studio picture,so that the background more bokeh.  smile.gif
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I tink the correct term is focal length. not zoom.
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owh... so more length more bokeh.... nvm... next year will be upgrade body.... aiming d90....need to wait with high patient....huh.... now collect money to buy others accessories.
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:18 PM)
More zoom,more bokeh. U may try 17-50mm F2.8 and try to use at 17mm and 50mm,
assume that aperture is always F2.8, at 50mm, the picture looks more bokeh.
thats why some people use 70-200mm F2.8 for studio picture,so that the background more bokeh.  smile.gif
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would like to ask what is bokeh??
and depend on what u said...mean the F more then will more bokeh??
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bokeh nice~! always heard people said but i reli blur blur wit the term lalalal whistling.gif whistling.gif

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Please ask uncle google and auntie wiki for more answer guys~ doh.gif Anyways, bokeh is like the blurring of the background or something like that. I know it but cannot really explain it sweat.gif
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no wonder my frenz said i can snap bokeh pict when i bought 50mm lol
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Guys, what is the use of 50mm 1.8 lens? And how much is it for brand new? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2009, 10:20 PM)
Guys, what is the use of 50mm 1.8 lens? And how much is it for brand new? hmm.gif
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around rm400


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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Oct 2 2009, 10:24 PM)
around rm400
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What is it for basically? Erm someone selling his for rm380, used it for half a month.. Is it expensive?
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Oct 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
would like to ask what is bokeh??
and depend on what u said...mean the F more then will more bokeh??
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Yeah,'bokeh' is blur background. I also dont know how to explain. F is aperture, the bigger it is (small number) the more blur the background is.

U guys can try take few picture with your kit lens.( 18-55mm F3.5-5.6)
Try to use 18mm at F5.6 and 55mm at F5.6, u will see that at 55mm F5.6 capable to do more blur background( assuming you are taking close up picture)

If dont understand,i will post some pictures later .
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oic...ok..i think i know le...thanks for explaining...=)
will try it once i have my camera...lolx...
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Here some example (sorry for noob picture)
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AT 17mm F2.8

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AT 50mm F2.8

Note the background(At the book 'SPM exam secrets'), at 50mm,its more blur blur(bokeh)!( i wish i have 70-200mm F2.8 so that i can show at 200mm F2.8 tongue.gif )

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haha....nvm lah...i get what u mean already...=)
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Guys should I buy Nikon SB600 or Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED VR AF-S? Decisions decisions rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2009, 12:37 AM)
Guys should I buy Nikon SB600 or Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED VR AF-S? Decisions decisions  rclxub.gif
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depends,for me,go for SB-600,easier to take photo indoor and also outdoor.

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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 3 2009, 12:40 AM)
depends,for me,go for SB-600,easier to take photo indoor and also outdoor.
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Which one is better for newbie? hmm.gif

Btw, so many things already u got for ur D90 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2009, 12:50 AM)
Which one is better for newbie?  hmm.gif

Btw, so many things already u got for ur D90  sweat.gif
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where got so many things,my dry box still empty tongue.gif

depends la bro,i have my 55-200,but at 170mm and above,the focus is quite soft,so think twice before u buy that lens bro.
better go for flash,because ur picture will look nicer with bounce flash rather than direct flash.
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 3 2009, 12:57 AM)
where got so many things,my dry box still empty tongue.gif

depends la bro,i have my 55-200,but at 170mm and above,the focus is quite soft,so think twice before u buy that lens bro.
better go for flash,because ur picture will look nicer with bounce flash rather than direct flash.
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Still empty?? Your geavity thing says it all sweat.gif

Oic.. Ok then.. I think better get the flash first.. Someone is selling it for RM700 after using it for a week.. Is the price ok? He said he needs to use money.. How much is a new one anyway? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2009, 01:01 AM)
Still empty?? Your geavity thing says it all  sweat.gif

Oic.. Ok then.. I think better get the flash first.. Someone is selling it for RM700 after using it for a week.. Is the price ok? He said he needs to use money.. How much is a new one anyway?  hmm.gif
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new one around rm750-rm800.
i bought mine at rm750 last two years.i dont know about now.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2009, 01:01 AM)
Still empty?? Your geavity thing says it all  sweat.gif

Oic.. Ok then.. I think better get the flash first.. Someone is selling it for RM700 after using it for a week.. Is the price ok? He said he needs to use money.. How much is a new one anyway?  hmm.gif
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I'd say save up for more and buy new 1. New sb-600 around RM800. It's NEW. smile.gif
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Guys should I buy Nikon SB600 or Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED VR AF-S? Decisions decisions  rclxub.gif
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sb600,as he said,easier to tkae photo indoor outdoor,u will facing a problem which is not enough light but u have to put high shutter speed,this time is external flash will help u
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QUOTE(FallInLov3 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:39 PM)
T_T, i aiming 50mm 1.8.... no money ...
external flash sb600 also more expensive than 50mm sad.gif
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Agree too.
Moments that you took your photo is really important, as without AF-S, it's really a fuss and missed out alot of nice shot.
But, if with a non-af ability body, manual focus is the way, until you upgrade to next body which will have built in af motor =)
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aiya, u got D90 d worry no money meh... tongue.gif
50mm 1.8 banyak cheap lor, with D90 u can autofocus somemore
i nid buy the AF-S 50mm leh, price can buy 4x50mm 1.8 lor rclxub.gif
btw, i tot i n bro illegaldragon poison u external flash? laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 2 2009, 11:37 PM)
Here some example (sorry for noob picture)
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AT 17mm F2.8

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

AT 50mm F2.8

Note the background(At the book 'SPM exam secrets'), at 50mm,its more blur blur(bokeh)!( i wish i have 70-200mm F2.8 so that i can show at 200mm F2.8 tongue.gif )
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how bout F1.8?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Oct 3 2009, 02:19 AM)
how bout F1.8?
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ofcuz more blur. tongue.gif but F1.8 too soft for product picture,need F2 and above right?
i read somewhere in the forum that for F1.8 lens,it is sharp at F2 or F2.5.
For F2.8 lens,it is sharp at F3.5-F4? hope some sifu can teach me too notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Can someone recommend me a shop that is selling SB600 for RM750? Prefer near TTDI Jaya/SS 13 Shah Alam.. Or anywhere in KL also can.. Huhu.. I need to buy rechargable batteries somemore doh.gif
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 1 2009, 04:34 AM)
Use manual for interval shooting mode, esp white balance must be manual.
remember to try few shot before use manual.have fun trying smile.gif
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But somehow I could not get into interval shooting mode when the camera is on any one of the PASM modes. Can anyone with D5000 confirm this?

Here's my second attempt at time lapse movie taken at 10s interval for 300 frames. The colors are made consistent with photoshop though I prefer not to do any post processing with photoshop.



Any tips on how to shoot clouds?





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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 3 2009, 02:38 AM)
ofcuz more blur.  tongue.gif but F1.8 too soft for product picture,need F2 and above right?
i read somewhere in the forum that for F1.8 lens,it is sharp at F2 or F2.5.
For F2.8 lens,it is sharp at F3.5-F4? hope some sifu can teach me too notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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from my try an error process
higher aperture = higher details
higher speed shutter = sharper the pict
the mechanism inside the lense make the pict to be able bokeh the pict... for example, macro lense has bigger and longer macro setting rather then normal lense.

plz dont tembak me, i jz point out my POV only tongue.gif
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In general, the softest point of the lens is when it is "wide open" as in open to the max aperture. So for an f1.8 lens f1.8 is the softest point and it starts getting sharper from f2.8 onwards. For the 35 f1.8 the best performance is between f3.5 to f5.6. In general those lenses like standard zooms that have an aperture of f5.6 at the long end are sharpest between f8 to f10.
QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 3 2009, 02:38 AM)
ofcuz more blur.  tongue.gif but F1.8 too soft for product picture,need F2 and above right?
i read somewhere in the forum that for F1.8 lens,it is sharp at F2 or F2.5.
For F2.8 lens,it is sharp at F3.5-F4? hope some sifu can teach me too notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 2 2009, 11:37 PM)
Here some example (sorry for noob picture)
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Note the background(At the book 'SPM exam secrets'), at 50mm,its more blur blur(bokeh)!( i wish i have 70-200mm F2.8 so that i can show at 200mm F2.8 tongue.gif )
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Nice tamiya! biggrin.gif

i guess bokeh can be explained as macro in a way? lol.. btw, no flash and dark conditions is really really hard, especially with fast movement too.. i took some miss world malaysia shots last night but almost all blur.. lol.
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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Oct 3 2009, 10:47 AM)
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btw, no flash and dark conditions is really really hard, especially with fast movement too.. i took some miss world malaysia shots last night but almost all blur.. lol.
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Thanks tongue.gif
Btw,what lens did u use? if longer focal length,then more light lost. Have to set the Ev to +0.7 +1.0 then higher ISO, well,this is one of the reason why i upgrade to D90 biggrin.gif



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Any tips on how to shoot clouds?
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Nice video,i think u should use wider angle rather than focus on the cloud only.
Or maybe,have some subject in the picture,like a car or something .(discovery channel use buildings tongue.gif )

QUOTE(project-o @ Oct 3 2009, 10:40 AM)
In general, the softest point of the lens is when it is "wide open" as in open to the max aperture. So for an f1.8 lens f1.8 is the softest point and it starts getting sharper from f2.8 onwards. For the 35 f1.8 the best performance is between f3.5 to f5.6. In general those lenses like standard zooms that have an aperture of f5.6 at the long end are sharpest between f8 to f10.
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Thanks for good explaination! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
I always use my F2.8 at F4 because it is sharper and nicerrr.(trial and error)

Anybody do CLS here? smile.gif
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 3 2009, 11:44 AM)
Thanks tongue.gif
Btw,what lens did u use? if longer focal length,then more light lost. Have to set the Ev to +0.7 +1.0 then higher ISO, well,this is one of the reason why i upgrade to D90 biggrin.gif
Nice video,i think u should use wider angle rather than focus on the cloud only.
Or maybe,have some subject in the picture,like a car or something .(discovery channel use buildings tongue.gif )
Thanks for good explaination! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
I always use my F2.8 at F4 because it is sharper and nicerrr.(trial and error)

Anybody do CLS here? smile.gif
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QUOTE(project-o @ Oct 3 2009, 10:40 AM)
In general, the softest point of the lens is when it is "wide open" as in open to the max aperture. So for an f1.8 lens f1.8 is the softest point and it starts getting sharper from f2.8 onwards. For the 35 f1.8 the best performance is between f3.5 to f5.6. In general those lenses like standard zooms that have an aperture of f5.6 at the long end are sharpest between f8 to f10.
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Damn... never know that the best performance will be between F3.5~F5.6 for 35mm F1.8, i always set it around F2 only. Thx for the explain. nod.gif
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eh, D5000 cannot do CLS ke??
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should be able..
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uploaded, pls c&c! biggrin.gif

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just got myself a Di866... hope to have some test shots soon tongue.gif
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eh, D5000 cannot do CLS ke??
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can, must use SU-800 or SB-900 as commander la
cos D5000 no build in wireless flash commander

QUOTE(raptorclans @ Oct 4 2009, 08:33 AM)
just got myself a Di866... hope to have some test shots soon tongue.gif
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congratz on your purchase~ rclxms.gif
saw your post in PhotoMalaysia too tongue.gif
fast fast post up some pics for us to c~ thumbup.gif

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GReetings,

I wanna ask for some opinion. Anyone here try using Tamron with 70-200mm F2.8 with Nikon D40 before? Hows the performance?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(ccling @ Oct 4 2009, 10:11 AM)
GReetings,

I wanna ask for some opinion. Anyone here try using Tamron with 70-200mm F2.8 with Nikon D40 before? Hows the performance?

Thanks in advance.
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i always prefer to have VR lens for longer focal length lens.
just my POV smile.gif
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Thanks for the advice,

Nikon are out of my budget.... Yet, it was a very good lense. I think i'll just try it out 1st before i buy. Thanks.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 4 2009, 09:50 AM)
can, must use SU-800 or SB-900 as commander la
cos D5000 no build in wireless flash commander
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Oct 4 2009, 11:11 AM)
so if no SB-900 no CLS la on D5000..  doh.gif
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yeap,no CLS without SB-900 or SU-800.
Dont want to buy SB-900? Buy D90 tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 4 2009, 11:14 AM)
yeap,no CLS without SB-900 or SU-800.
Dont want to buy SB-900? Buy D90  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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already got D300 laugh.gif asking cuz play2 with my friend's D5000 yesterday, cant do CLS with SB600 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Oct 4 2009, 11:28 AM)
already got D300  laugh.gif asking cuz play2 with my friend's D5000 yesterday, cant do CLS with SB600  sweat.gif
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Aiyak,forgot u D300 user,then u are my big brother notworthy.gif
HAHAHA.
actually the cheaper way to do cls is to buy Slave Flash Trigger.

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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Oct 1 2009, 10:03 AM)
ok..that mean u not really understand what iso is...well..if we have external flash, y we want to increase the iso so high?? yes, high iso will have more noise, but that is for when u in low light condition and dont have external flash...well, my opinion, actually the iso is depend on user, if u feel the high iso is having too much noise that u cant accept, well, go get external flash..=)
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i dun have the experience... what i want to know is comparing the same condition, lighting (low lighting) etc, which is better (in term of qulaity picture and noise level), having hi iso no ext flash or having low iso with external flash... if youre taking pictures in low light, logically the subject is near... unless u want to take of maybe sunset.... but still u can use low aperture and longer shutter... the problem is when the subject is moving (people etc), where u cannot use long shutter.... so the question, which one is better low iso + flash OR hi iso + no flash....

i'm asking because i need to decide to buy a zoom lense or a flash.... cannot buy both rite now....
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 4 2009, 12:32 PM)
i dun have the experience... what i want to know is comparing the same condition, lighting (low lighting) etc, which is better (in term of qulaity picture and noise level), having hi iso no ext flash or having low iso with external flash... if youre taking pictures in low light, logically the subject is near... unless u want to take of maybe sunset.... but still u can use low aperture and longer shutter...  the problem is when the subject is moving (people etc), where u cannot use long shutter.... so the question, which one is better low iso + flash OR hi iso + no flash....

i'm asking because i need to decide to buy a zoom lense or a flash.... cannot buy both rite now....
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Always opt for the flash first. In comes in handy in difficult situation like low light, indoor, etc...
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 4 2009, 12:32 PM)
i dun have the experience... what i want to know is comparing the same condition, lighting (low lighting) etc, which is better (in term of qulaity picture and noise level), having hi iso no ext flash or having low iso with external flash... if youre taking pictures in low light, logically the subject is near... unless u want to take of maybe sunset.... but still u can use low aperture and longer shutter...  the problem is when the subject is moving (people etc), where u cannot use long shutter.... so the question, which one is better low iso + flash OR hi iso + no flash....

i'm asking because i need to decide to buy a zoom lense or a flash.... cannot buy both rite now....
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i dont know about other's opinion, but i'd go for a flash first, its a must nod.gif
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D5000 doesnt have build in camera right?
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err?? build in camera??
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QUOTE(utopian86 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:38 PM)
D5000 doesnt have build in camera right?
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D5000 do got built in flash nod.gif
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lolx...a pns in D5000 kah?? =P
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QUOTE(utopian86 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:38 PM)
D5000 doesnt have build in camera right?
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im impress camera in camera~!

my first thng buy after d90 kit is flash. i found it very handy then i bought 18200. found i less using it unless got some event.. if indoor, prefer more on kit lense
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tested tammy 70-200 f2.8 @ Yl pudu plaza earlier Rm 3k flat.
super poison! wanted to test sp 90 mm actually bit no stock.
anyone bought sp 90mm lately. any good deals to rec?
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thanks guys... majority (all actually) voted for flash, it is now on top of my shopping list.... planning to buy nissin di622 or sb600... prefer di622 because cheaper... wht do u guys think? will start research for both flash 2morow...
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 5 2009, 02:26 AM)
thanks guys... majority (all actually) voted for flash, it is now on top of my shopping list.... planning to buy nissin di622 or sb600... prefer di622 because cheaper... wht do u guys think? will start research for both flash 2morow...
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i want to get nissin di622 too, but no money cry.gif
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My Opinion :- Take the Nissin Di622. Power, etc...is about the same. Main disadvantage is Nissin Di622 can't be fired by most radio triggers.
QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 5 2009, 02:26 AM)
thanks guys... majority (all actually) voted for flash, it is now on top of my shopping list.... planning to buy nissin di622 or sb600... prefer di622 because cheaper... wht do u guys think? will start research for both flash 2morow...
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 5 2009, 02:26 AM)
thanks guys... majority (all actually) voted for flash, it is now on top of my shopping list.... planning to buy nissin di622 or sb600... prefer di622 because cheaper... wht do u guys think? will start research for both flash 2morow...
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i would take the sb600.. later when u got enough money u might want to keep the sb600 and buy a sb800 @ sb900.. CLS is poisoning too.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 5 2009, 02:26 AM)
thanks guys... majority (all actually) voted for flash, it is now on top of my shopping list.... planning to buy nissin di622 or sb600... prefer di622 because cheaper... wht do u guys think? will start research for both flash 2morow...
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after research,share with us ! i want know too smile.gif

QUOTE(project-o @ Oct 5 2009, 10:28 AM)
My Opinion :- Take the Nissin Di622. Power, etc...is about the same. Main disadvantage is Nissin Di622 can't be fired by most radio triggers.
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radio trigger ?


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QUOTE(tun @ Oct 5 2009, 02:20 PM)
radio trigger ?
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pocket wizards?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 3 2009, 01:36 AM)
aiya, u got D90 d worry no money meh...  tongue.gif
50mm 1.8 banyak cheap lor, with D90 u can autofocus somemore
i nid buy the AF-S 50mm leh, price can buy 4x50mm 1.8 lor  rclxub.gif
btw, i tot i n bro illegaldragon poison u external flash?  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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Not yet not yet, i found flash is a must !!! very important, but as to budget wise.... i only manage to get a 50mm( my birthday present for myself) haha
Flash come next... SB600 ... any place sell cheaper than RM790 for brand new SB600?
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Not sure about pocket wizard but the Cactus one and another brand I'm using and also slave sensor trigger doesn't work. Anyway... .the built-in TTL slave function works beautifully to make up for that.
QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Oct 5 2009, 02:33 PM)
pocket wizards?
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QUOTE(project-o @ Oct 5 2009, 03:20 PM)
Not sure about pocket wizard but the Cactus one and another brand I'm using and also slave sensor trigger doesn't work. Anyway... .the built-in TTL slave function works beautifully to make up for that.
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did u set the flash as manual or still ttl when using cactus?
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Anyone knows where to find a Nissin powerpack? I asked one shop and they gave me a look as if it doesn't exist...
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Anyone knows where to find a Nissin powerpack? I asked one shop and they gave me a look as if it doesn't exist...
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Take a short walk in Low Yat itself ... I think I saw some Nissin around but can't remember which shop today.


Added on October 5, 2009, 4:31 pmHi all sifus,

I just bought a D5000 couple days ago.

First impression - the camera is really great, good quality picture. My previous toy was Nikon Coolpix 4300 ..... yeah ... my 6 yrs son inherited from me tongue.gif

Just a question - the SDHC that come with it is a SanDisk Extreme III 4GB 30MB/s version. I don't plan to shot any movie at all with this D5000, so is it possible for me to get any other SDHC with slower speed? E.g. Extreme III 20MB/s ....

Appreciate any input ... thanks!

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Set to manual. Read somewhere that not all triggers will work with it. Anyway same trigger on SB-600 works fine.
QUOTE(faiz92 @ Oct 5 2009, 03:26 PM)
did u set the flash as manual or still ttl when using cactus?
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Added on October 5, 2009, 7:25 pmIf I'm not mistaken, the lower speed Sandisk is called Ultra II. Extreme series is for higher speeds.
QUOTE(HosieryGuy @ Oct 5 2009, 04:26 PM)
Take a short walk in Low Yat itself ... I think I saw some Nissin around but can't remember which shop today.


Added on October 5, 2009, 4:31 pmHi all sifus,

I just bought a D5000 couple days ago.

First impression - the camera is really great, good quality picture. My previous toy was Nikon Coolpix 4300 ..... yeah ... my 6 yrs son inherited from me  tongue.gif

Just a question - the SDHC that come with it is a SanDisk Extreme III 4GB 30MB/s version. I don't plan to shot any movie at all with this D5000, so is it possible for me to get any other SDHC with slower speed? E.g. Extreme III 20MB/s ....

Appreciate any input ... thanks!
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i not sure about my old firm SLR Len still able to use on D5000/3000
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Sifoos, may i know where is the place to get cheapest D3000 kit?
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if u thnk RM2K is cheap, then i know la. RM2K i need to call them first b4 u going to buy...
if u thnk RM2.1K b4 nego is cheap, then u can go to ampang oark smile.gif

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well, i saw some ppl selling in lyn D3000 kit only 2k...
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saw a shop in lowyat selling D90 packaged with kit lens and 70-300 lens at RM4800. just the 70-300 it self cost RM2000. Wish i have the money...

question:
what is cls? do we really use cls? planning to buy a flash. the guy at the store recon nissin or SB900 if i plan to use cls for my D5000.


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question:
what is cls? do we really use cls? planning to buy a flash. the guy at the store recon nissin or SB900 if i plan to use cls for my D5000.
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CLS where u can do cool lighting(this is just my POV)
For example,
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QUOTE(silver_de_gene @ Oct 6 2009, 01:23 AM)
saw a shop in lowyat selling D90 packaged with kit lens and 70-300 lens at RM4800. just the 70-300 it self cost RM2000. Wish i have the money...

question:
what is cls? do we really use cls? planning to buy a flash. the guy at the store recon nissin or SB900 if i plan to use cls for my D5000.
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start slowly and build u lens up.
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For good bargain in KL ... u can try Kota Raya, there are 2 camera shop one after another, go to the second one / last shop, owner pretty nice and honest.
Or u can try Boeing at Sg Wang - not bad either.

I got my D5000 from Boeing - no need to rego, they straight offer lowest price possible.
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QUOTE(HosieryGuy @ Oct 6 2009, 10:22 AM)
For good bargain in KL ... u can try Kota Raya, there are 2 camera shop one after another, go to the second one / last shop, owner pretty nice and honest.
Or u can try Boeing at Sg Wang - not bad either.

I got my D5000 from Boeing - no need to rego, they straight offer lowest price possible.
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Same as me lol biggrin.gif i went to boeing they straight give me lowest price. no charge for using cc too thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(HosieryGuy @ Oct 6 2009, 10:22 AM)
For good bargain in KL ... u can try Kota Raya, there are 2 camera shop one after another, go to the second one / last shop, owner pretty nice and honest.
Or u can try Boeing at Sg Wang - not bad either.

I got my D5000 from Boeing - no need to rego, they straight offer lowest price possible.
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I went there yesterday, offer me 2100 for D3000 kit, credit card no extra charge. Free bag, 4GB card, screen protector, UV filter and tripod, sound like a very good deal eh!
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Guys, how much does 'bokeh' lens cost? The one with built-in motor.. I don't know the model.. Those with f1.8 is it? hmm.gif
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Guys, how much does 'bokeh' lens cost? The one with built-in motor.. I don't know the model.. Those with f1.8 is it? hmm.gif
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i think u mean the AF-S 50mm f/1.4, price about Rm1800
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 6 2009, 08:56 PM)
i think u mean the AF-S 50mm f/1.4, price about Rm1800
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Wow! So expensive lor.. Is it because of the built-in motor? If no motor then how much? hmm.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:13 PM

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less than 500,it cnt at d40 until d60
Zi-Tech
post Oct 6 2009, 10:25 PM

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because of af-s motor and also with bigger aperture...

that why i'll change my body next year....limitation on lens...
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 6 2009, 10:11 PM)
Wow! So expensive lor.. Is it because of the built-in motor? If no motor then how much?  hmm.gif
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ya, without motor AF-D 50mm f/1.4 about RM1000
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:41 PM

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er?? 1k?? so exp?? then the 50mm for less than 500 is what??

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