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post Jan 23 2021, 03:21 AM, updated 4y ago

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my furball is looking like a loaf of bread..XD wub.gif
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Hi there, I have a male tabby cat , which "walked in" to our home since December. Long story short, owner of the cat was not found despite post photos of the cat inside RA Whatsapp group, so I decided to adopt him.

Then my wife decided to go back to our 2nd home, which is an apartment. I was ready to bring him, but wife is against it, so left him back in the house.

So every 1-2 days (yes I know its not right) I will go back to the first home and feed him, and even take him for an outdoor walk . I also ensure he gets plenty of water.

Yes he loves me very much with all the headbutting , especially today he is very affectionate.
I also care for him.

My only main problem - He frequently gives love bite on my legs.
And today when I ignored him for just a while (just to do my stuff), he bite my foot so hard that my foot had abit of bleeding sad.gif - I already put some Calamine yellow lotion so that it doesn't get poisoned.

In fact I noticed he followed me alot, sometimes even tried to "chase" me and few near attempts to bite me.

Is it a sign of he miss me very much and yet he is bored? hmm.gif
I tried to "play" with him, bought him a teaser wand toy , but that doesn't seem to work on him.
But if I stroke him, he is fine with it, though need to see his mood also.

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post Jan 24 2021, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 24 2021, 07:44 PM)
Hi there, I have a male tabby cat , which "walked in" to our home since December. Long story short, owner of the cat was not found despite post photos of the cat inside RA Whatsapp group, so I decided to adopt him.

Then my wife decided to go back to our 2nd home, which is an apartment. I was ready to bring him, but wife is against it, so left him back in the house.

So every 1-2 days (yes I know its not right) I will go back to the first home and feed him, and even take him for an outdoor walk . I also ensure he gets plenty of water.

Yes he loves me very much with all the headbutting , especially today he is very affectionate.
I also care for him.

My only main problem - He frequently gives love bite on my legs.
And today when I ignored him for just a while (just to do my stuff), he bite my foot so hard that my foot had abit of bleeding  sad.gif  - I already put some Calamine yellow lotion so that it doesn't get poisoned.

In fact I noticed he followed me alot, sometimes even tried to "chase" me and few near attempts to bite me.

Is it a sign of he miss me very much and yet he is bored?  hmm.gif
I tried to "play" with him, bought him a teaser wand toy , but that doesn't seem to work on him.
But if I stroke him, he is fine with it, though need to see his mood also.
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yea these @&@%$+ male cats are most like how you've described, even tho neutered @ a very young age.
Those that likes to bite are the dominant types, n they will bully other cats.

I don't know about solutions. unless you have ways to tire them to death.
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my furball is looking like a loaf of bread..XD  wub.gif
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What a cute kitten! I am a fan of gray cats and will welcome a new kitten to our family soon. Here is a list of names https://catspurfection.com/gray-kitten-names.html for gray cats. I hope it will be useful.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 24 2021, 09:09 PM)
yea these @&@%$+ male cats are most like how you've described, even tho neutered @ a very young age.
Those that likes to bite are the dominant types, n they will bully other cats.

I don't know about solutions. unless you have ways to tire them to death.
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Yeah I have a one as described. I also looking for the solution. Bite me until I bleed like crazy. I really dunno what to do with him. Release him to porch, within an hour ready to pick fight with outside cat. Zzz. Now is self isolation in room like prison
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 24 2021, 09:09 PM)
yea these @&@%$+ male cats are most like how you've described, even tho neutered @ a very young age.
Those that likes to bite are the dominant types, n they will bully other cats.

I don't know about solutions. unless you have ways to tire them to death.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 28 2021, 03:06 PM)
Yeah I have a one as described. I also looking for the solution. Bite me until I bleed like crazy. I really dunno what to do with him. Release him to porch, within an hour ready to pick fight with outside cat. Zzz. Now is self isolation in room like prison
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Mine does not bully other cats. Because he is already neutered (verified by vet doctor) . So he doesn't really socialise with other cats even though nearby have other cats.

@IpohGuyz - Sad to say , mine attacked me recently, bite me on the face, near the right eye, when I stroke him too much. Bleeding until I had to drive to the nearest clinic to have it bandaged and obtained antibiotic pills.
It all happen in a split second - He was very affectionate, loving, then within a split second mutate into a beast and bite me. rclxub.gif

Then I google up, he has a condition of "Petting-Induced or Overstimulation Aggression ". meaning that some cats don't like too much stroking / sayang2 at their fur. Yes, they love to be cared, but too much and it will trigger them to be annoyed.
Really need to Google alot to learn about their habits and what to avoid.

So from then on, I am extra careful now - Read his early signs. If his tail is swinging left and right, best not to touch him.
He rarely hiss, but he will meow at me first.
Must really read his early warning signs. Meow first..if still ignored, then he will take his paw and swipe at me.

Secondly, if he is way too bored, like mine, at one time, will even oddly "meow + attack" his own tail. Sigh, I should had really taken note of that sign before he bite me.
But now he is fine. And so is my "bite wound" .

Self isolation is okay to punish him, but not too long either.

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post Jan 31 2021, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(jess7 @ Jan 25 2021, 07:05 PM)
when grow up will be a fully baked bread

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Do you guy's buy catnip for your cats? Just curious 😂
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My male cat have problem with eating wet food.
Be it any brand, be it small quantities... he always puke .....

But if eat treats... ok.

My female cat dont have any problem with this..
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post Feb 4 2021, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(SiuMai00 @ Feb 2 2021, 02:55 PM)
Do you guy's buy catnip for your cats? Just curious 😂
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I keep a bottle of dry catnip around. They also have a lot of catnip toys.

QUOTE(leah235 @ Feb 2 2021, 03:00 PM)
Reporting in!!!!!

My male cat have problem with eating wet food.
Be it any brand, be it small quantities... he always puke .....

But if eat treats... ok.

My female cat dont have any problem with this..
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Maybe your male cat is eating too fast? Have you tried getting a slow feeder bowl? Or even tried lifting the bowl up so it's not on the floor and it's easier for him to swallow?
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My female cat just gave birth to 3 kittens.. unfortunately, 2 died. Not sure what to do with their corpse, for the time being just wrapped them in a paper and put in an empty box.

Also, is there any special food to give a cat who just gave birth? Preferably wet food since she can't eat dry food at all. For now, just been giving her royal canin.
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Feb 5 2021, 10:25 AM)
My female cat just gave birth to 3 kittens.. unfortunately, 2 died. Not sure what to do with their corpse, for the time being just wrapped them in a paper and put in an empty box.

Also, is there any special food to give a cat who just gave birth? Preferably wet food since she can't eat dry food at all. For now, just been giving her royal canin.
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Tanam saja. I just gave wetfood to mummy cat. But not consistent also. Sometimes give dry
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Feb 4 2021, 02:14 AM)
I keep a bottle of dry catnip around. They also have a lot of catnip toys.

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Actually what are the purpose this catnip? To make them more active?
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Actually what are the purpose this catnip? To make them more active?
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Catnip can make some cats "high". But not all cats react to it.
You can look up youtube for plenty of catnip reaction videos.
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post Feb 8 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(SiuMai00 @ Feb 7 2021, 05:23 PM)
Actually what are the purpose this catnip? To make them more active?
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Catnip, when smelled, can trigger hyperactivity in some cats. It can also be used to draw attention to things like scratchpads that you want them to use.
When consumed, it can mellow them out.

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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Feb 5 2021, 10:25 AM)
My female cat just gave birth to 3 kittens.. unfortunately, 2 died. Not sure what to do with their corpse, for the time being just wrapped them in a paper and put in an empty box.

Also, is there any special food to give a cat who just gave birth? Preferably wet food since she can't eat dry food at all. For now, just been giving her royal canin.
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Nursing cats need to eat high calorie, high quality wet kitten food.

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post Feb 9 2021, 02:39 PM

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so far haven't met a cat tat got high with catnip, waste my $$$ oni.
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lol both of mine like catnip but I don't let them have it very often
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Hi guys! I have 2 kittens (1 is around 6 months old and another is about 10 months old), my husband & I adopted them at a different time and integrated them well, now they are friends. Right now we are facing an issue with my 10 months old kitten, we notice that ever since we adopted her, she start scooting.

We brought her to the vet to empty her anal glands (which isn't alot to empty) and she still scoots! So we thought she is allergic to the protein that is in her diet, we eliminate that as well but she STILL scoots. The vet has no idea how to help me anymore and everytime she scoots, it leaves a mark there on our furniture and sometimes our bed.

Anyone has similar experience or idea on how to stop her from scooting? Vet said it is due to something and not habit, we couldn't figure out what it is. Thank you!!
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Hi, any cat sifu here know what breed of cat is this?

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QUOTE(petlover01 @ Feb 11 2021, 10:13 AM)
Hi guys! I have 2 kittens (1 is around 6 months old and another is about 10 months old), my husband & I adopted them at a different time and integrated them well, now they are friends. Right now we are facing an issue with my 10 months old kitten, we notice that ever since we adopted her, she start scooting.

We brought her to the vet to empty her anal glands (which isn't alot to empty) and she still scoots! So we thought she is allergic to the protein that is in her diet, we eliminate that as well but she STILL scoots. The vet has no idea how to help me anymore and everytime she scoots, it leaves a mark there on our furniture and sometimes our bed.

Anyone has similar experience or idea on how to stop her from scooting? Vet said it is due to something and not habit, we couldn't figure out what it is. Thank you!!
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I only had 1 experience with my cat scooting, but thank god it lasted for only a couple of days, I didnt do anything and it was self limiting. If it still persists then there must be something causing itchiness at the area like worm infection, did ur vet tried giving any worm meds?
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Feb 13 2021, 12:05 AM)
Hi, any cat sifu here know what breed of cat is this?
Look like mixed of British Short Hair Golden and Bengal,
British Short Hair Golden : https://www.mudah.my/British+Short+Hair+Gol...le-88657740.htm
Bengal : https://www.mudah.my/Bengal+mixed+Munchkin+...en-88684137.htm

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QUOTE(petlover01 @ Feb 11 2021, 10:13 AM)
Hi guys! I have 2 kittens (1 is around 6 months old and another is about 10 months old), my husband & I adopted them at a different time and integrated them well, now they are friends. Right now we are facing an issue with my 10 months old kitten, we notice that ever since we adopted her, she start scooting.

We brought her to the vet to empty her anal glands (which isn't alot to empty) and she still scoots! So we thought she is allergic to the protein that is in her diet, we eliminate that as well but she STILL scoots. The vet has no idea how to help me anymore and everytime she scoots, it leaves a mark there on our furniture and sometimes our bed.

Anyone has similar experience or idea on how to stop her from scooting? Vet said it is due to something and not habit, we couldn't figure out what it is. Thank you!!
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When it scoots, take note of the condition of the poop.
Scoot cos wana get rid of poop tht got stuck in the anus, paste sticky poop, watery poop, strands of grass or other objects, or other stuffs tht irritates the anus.
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QUOTE(easywin3 @ Feb 13 2021, 07:35 PM)
Look like mixed of British Short Hair Golden and Bengal,
British Short Hair Golden : https://www.mudah.my/British+Short+Hair+Gol...le-88657740.htm
Bengal : https://www.mudah.my/Bengal+mixed+Munchkin+...en-88684137.htm
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Ok, thanks for your reply.
Manage to visit the pet shop this evening, the staff told me it's domestic shorthair.
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Feb 14 2021, 12:14 AM)
Ok, thanks for your reply.
Manage to visit the pet shop this evening, the staff told me it's domestic shorthair.
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They are selling a domestic shorthair at a petshop?
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They are selling a domestic shorthair at a petshop?
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No, I brought the cat to the shop to ask.
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No, I brought the cat to the shop to ask.
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Ic ok, i think its very difficult to ascertain the breed of a cat for sure just by looking at it unless u do a DNA test which I dont think is available in Malaysia or is there? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(neome @ Feb 14 2021, 12:39 AM)
Ic ok, i think its very difficult to ascertain the breed of a cat for sure just by looking at it unless u do a DNA test which I dont think is available in Malaysia or is there?  hmm.gif
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Don't think there is DNA test for cat in malaysia.
Not gonna spend $$$ for such test too unless you're a pedigree breeder.

Just curious to know what this cat breed I found wandering around the block.
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QUOTE(neome @ Feb 13 2021, 06:21 PM)
I only had 1 experience with my cat scooting, but thank god it lasted for only a couple of days, I didnt do anything and it was self limiting. If it still persists then there must be something causing itchiness at the area like worm infection, did ur vet tried giving any worm meds?
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Yes we did deworm her. unsure.gif

QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 13 2021, 09:53 PM)
When it scoots, take note of the condition of the poop.
Scoot cos wana get rid of poop tht got stuck in the anus, paste sticky poop, watery poop, strands of grass or other objects, or other stuffs tht irritates the anus.
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We wash her butt with water everytime we see her do her business straight. But after washing, still scoots! sad.gif
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QUOTE(neome @ Feb 14 2021, 12:28 AM)
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Domestic shorthair is a common mixed-breed short-haired cat.
Cat breeds only matter for cat shows, for home pets they matter less than zero. I don't understand why people care about what breed the cat is.

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Feb 17 2021, 06:55 AM)
Domestic shorthair is a common mixed-breed short-haired cat.
Cat breeds only matter for cat shows, for home pets they matter less than zero. I don't understand why people care about what breed the cat is.
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Curiosity I guess. I googled for few days to find out what is the color type of my cat since for sure I know it's just domestic shorthair. Found out the markings is similar to Lynx point siamese. Sounds fancy only lol.

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 17 2021, 11:57 PM)
Curiosity I guess. I googled for few days to find out what is the color type of my cat since for sure I know it's just domestic shorthair. Found out the markings is similar to Lynx point siamese. Sounds fancy only lol.
Exactly, I luv to learn more about my cats not just for fun but to understand them better, I would pay for a DNA test for my long hair cat that I got from someone to know more about the breed and so his personality, health probs etc if the price is not too much rolleyes.gif

Ur cat is beautiful btw, I got a chocolate point siamese with tabby markings (I googled it too) and pretty blue eyes, quite similar to urs thumbup.gif he is so vocal and highly demanding for attention laugh.gif

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QUOTE(neome @ Feb 18 2021, 02:19 AM)
Exactly, I luv to learn more about my cats not just for fun but to understand them better, I would pay for a DNA test for my long hair cat that I got from someone to know more about the breed and so his personality, health probs etc if the price is not too much   rolleyes.gif

Ur cat is beautiful btw, I got a chocolate point siamese with tabby markings (I googled it too) and pretty blue eyes, quite similar to urs  thumbup.gif he is so vocal and highly demanding for attention laugh.gif
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If you have a domestic shorthair/medium-hair/long-hair, it is my opinion that you are wasting your money because breed personality doesn't factor in at all significantly.
If you have a purebred cat, then that might make more sense, but you wouldn't need to do a DNA test anyway.

You are free to do what you want though.

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QUOTE(neome @ Feb 18 2021, 02:19 AM)
Exactly, I luv to learn more about my cats not just for fun but to understand them better, I would pay for a DNA test for my long hair cat that I got from someone to know more about the breed and so his personality, health probs etc if the price is not too much  rolleyes.gif

Ur cat is beautiful btw, I got a chocolate point siamese with tabby markings (I googled it too) and pretty blue eyes, quite similar to urs  thumbup.gif he is so vocal and highly demanding for attention laugh.gif
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Lovely kitty. Is he pure bred Siamese? Mine is just stray cats offspring haha but very vocal too.
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Lovely kitty. Is he pure bred Siamese? Mine is just stray cats offspring haha but very vocal too.
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No, he was a stray as well rolleyes.gif
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I got this for free. But I don't think cheese is good for animals? Should i just throw these away?

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Feb 17 2021, 06:55 AM)
Domestic shorthair is a common mixed-breed short-haired cat.
Cat breeds only matter for cat shows, for home pets they matter less than zero. I don't understand why people care about what breed the cat is.
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know the breed just to learn and better understand your cat lor........like some shop want to sell me RC BSH kitten kibble when RC kitten kibble out of stock, lucky i didn't buy, the vet told me not suitable for DSH because kibble for BSH is harder to bite as BSH have stronger jaw...... hmm.gif
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I got this for free. But I don't think cheese is good for animals? Should i just throw these away?

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got these for free as well, it's expired so i place it on a shelf, but d idiot cat somehow can detect there's food inside the stick, ripped it apart n ate 4 sticks..

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my queen just delivered 4 litter. but the last one is premature and very undeveloped. hope it can survive.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 20 2021, 10:27 PM)
got these for free as well, it's expired so i place it on a shelf, but d idiot cat somehow can detect there's food inside the stick, ripped it apart n ate 4 sticks..
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Lol why place on a shelf instead of throwing into the rubbish bin?

Mine not expired yet, dunno what to do with it. No strays around here
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May I ask how much you guys spend in a month on cat food? I kinda dare not count the cost because mine are mainly eating wet food so the money spent is substancial.
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 23 2021, 08:58 PM)
May I ask how much you guys spend in a month on cat food? I kinda dare not count the cost because mine are mainly eating wet food so the money spent is substancial.
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around rm 200 - 300 per month,
i got 2 cats, eating royal canin hair & skin and brit premium wetfood once in a while.
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 23 2021, 08:58 PM)
May I ask how much you guys spend in a month on cat food? I kinda dare not count the cost because mine are mainly eating wet food so the money spent is substancial.
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I have 2 cats 7 months and a 3 yo, i spend max rm200 for kibbles and wet food per month, plus others like litter will be around rm300 wink.gif
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Spending way too much on wet foods.
My 2 cats are very fussy and even though I have royal canin dry foods they want wet foods maybe 3 times a day. Often they leaving quite a bit.

I have tried many brands.

What wet foods are people using and you happy with. I have bought cheaper brands but they just look and smell terrible. Pay a little more and you can see nice fish or chicken.
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Lol why place on a shelf instead of throwing into the rubbish bin?

Mine not expired yet, dunno what to do with it. No strays around here
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Spending way too much on wet foods.
My 2 cats are very fussy and even though I have royal canin dry foods they want wet foods maybe 3 times a day. Often they leaving quite a bit.

I have tried many brands.

What wet foods are people using and you happy with.  I have bought cheaper brands but they just look and smell terrible. Pay a little more and you can see nice fish or chicken.
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wht wet food u buy?

can cheat add wet + kib, c they will eat ornot, or
add warm water to wet food to increase volume, so d cat is full and wet food can last bit longer.
i think prodiet broth is cheap + can see got ayam etc instead of those all grounded up type..
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May I ask how much you guys spend in a month on cat food? I kinda dare not count the cost because mine are mainly eating wet food so the money spent is substancial.
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I have just 1 cat, 1 year old. Spending rm60/month for kibbles. I don't feed him wet food from cans. Only sometimes give him boiled chicken breast.
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Also do you let your cats graze all day - I mean have dish of dry food all day or do you only put dry food down certain times.

Mine have always grazed. They eat when they want. They have got used to wet food several times a day but they are so fussy they will often either eat it all up or leave it. In the heat of malaysia food doesn't last long.

I will try boiled chicken again as it certainly cheaper than 3 cans of food per day
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free feeding cat will be spoilt,
+ d food wont be fresh, and
it will definitely cost you more cos they over eat,
and refuse to eat food tht was exposed to air, ants etc ..
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Yeah I might try stricter feeding times.
They need to lose weight to be honest
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QUOTE(yashin @ Feb 24 2021, 10:16 PM)
Spending way too much on wet foods.
My 2 cats are very fussy and even though I have royal canin dry foods they want wet foods maybe 3 times a day. Often they leaving quite a bit.

I have tried many brands.

What wet foods are people using and you happy with.  I have bought cheaper brands but they just look and smell terrible. Pay a little more and you can see nice fish or chicken.
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That's the thing... after eating wet food for some months mine don't really want dry food already....and the cheaper wet foods makes my cat vomit sometimes. Had to buy better ones but they eat about 4 times a day so my money is just flying away. Sometimes I boil chicken to add into their wet food, but cannot do very often because they don't like it. My cat also sometimes lau sai if she eats rice, so cannot add rice to her food also. Currently I rotate these few canned foods:

Fussie cat
Royal Canin
Carnilove
Aixia Kuro
Sheba
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Thanks for your input.

Dry foods tried lots of brands but settled on royal canine as they often didn't like very expensive higher protein ones. They have been fine on that.

Wet tried sheba, fancy feast and others. Also tried boiling or steaming chicken.

I think I will try keeping feeding times - easier when working but not so easy during lockdown at home when cats pester a bit and I give in too easily
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QUOTE(yashin @ Feb 25 2021, 05:20 PM)
Thanks for your input.

Dry foods tried lots of brands but settled on royal canine as they often didn't like very expensive higher protein ones. They have been fine on that.

Wet tried sheba, fancy feast and others.  Also tried boiling or steaming chicken.

I think I will try keeping feeding times - easier when working but not so easy during lockdown at home when cats pester a bit and I give in too easily
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Take note the canned fancy feast we have in Malaysia is not the same as the recommended one in other countries. If you read behind the can it says supplementary feeding only. I suppose if you are also feeding kibble and other foods then it is ok.
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QUOTE(yashin @ Feb 24 2021, 10:16 PM)
Spending way too much on wet foods.
My 2 cats are very fussy and even though I have royal canin dry foods they want wet foods maybe 3 times a day. Often they leaving quite a bit.

I have tried many brands.

What wet foods are people using and you happy with.  I have bought cheaper brands but they just look and smell terrible. Pay a little more and you can see nice fish or chicken.
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My favourite. Ciao! Maybe cause smell like human food. Quite expensive though. Cheapest is rm3.70 per can
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Also do you let your cats graze all day - I mean have dish of dry food all day or do you only put dry food down certain times.
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I feed mine whenever he's standing at his food bowl. Just 1 small scoop each time.

He's pretty much a spoiled cat. I have been working from home for 1 full year (before getting him), so always need human by his side.
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QUOTE(yashin @ Feb 25 2021, 02:57 PM)
Yeah I might try stricter feeding times.
They need to lose weight to be honest
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If your cats need to lose weight, meal times are very good for this. Make sure they don't lose weight too fast, this will cause them to have fatty liver disease.

Mine are fed four times a day, two wet two dry. The dry is by autofeeder.

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 2 2021, 05:06 AM)
I feed mine whenever he's standing at his food bowl. Just 1 small scoop each time.

He's pretty much a spoiled cat. I have been working from home for 1 full year (before getting him), so always need human by his side.
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I guess our pets are all spoiled coz most of us are working from home during this pandemic laugh.gif n I've been on sabbatical leave for almost 4 yrs now, cant imagine how my pets will cope without human companion during the day when I'm back to work soon confused.gif

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how old u guys wait until u train ur kitten to do its business at the litter

I tried to put my one month old kitten in the litter and she tried eating the sand lol
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 5 2021, 09:08 AM)
how old u guys wait until u train ur kitten to do its business at the litter

I tried to put my one month old kitten in the litter and she tried eating the sand lol
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Hi, does anyone has experience with Iams dry cat food?

Recently I tried this food, my cat seems to like it very much. But I kinda noticed she drinks more water and did not poop every day like before. Otherwise, she is still active and playful. I checked the percentage amount of fibre is somehow lesser than other brands, but ash is much higher (10-11% iinm).

I read around, Ash is a group of minerals that includes magnesium. It is something to note if the cat has a digestive or urinary tract problem. And usually, the amount is below 10%.

Right now I am not sure whether I should continue giving her Iams or not?
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how old u guys wait until u train ur kitten to do its business at the litter

I tried to put my one month old kitten in the litter and she tried eating the sand lol
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For me usually I would just put newborn kitttens and the mother in a good sized cage with a litter box n other basic necessities for the mother. This is to prevent the mother from transferring the kittens to other unkown places eg in a cupboard etc. its the mother's instinct to do this until the kittens can walk and fend on their own. I would let the mother go out of the cage every now n then tho a mother who just delivered do not walk around too much. The kittens will eventually learn to use the litter box in the cage on their own. Once they are used to doing their business in the litter box then only I would let them out the cage roaming around the house. U can also use a play pen or a small room if u dont have a cage.

Having said that maybe others have different and better ways of training their kittens smile.gif

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QUOTE(Katrinah @ Mar 5 2021, 04:49 PM)
Never had a one mth old kitty 😅  got mine at 2mths old and knows to use litter.  Happy training 🤭💪
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haha, lucky I saw, had to open her mouth and took the sand out

QUOTE(neome @ Mar 5 2021, 07:21 PM)
For me usually I would just put newborn kitttens and the mother in a good sized cage with a litter box n other basic necessities for the mother. This is to prevent the mother from transferring the kittens to other unkown places eg in a cupboard etc. its the mother's instinct to do this until the kittens can walk and fend on their own. I would let the mother go out of the cage every now n then tho a mother who just delivered do not walk around too much. The kittens will eventually learn to use the litter box in the cage on their own. Once they are used to doing their business in the litter box then only I would let them out the cage roaming around the house. U can also use a play pen or a small room if u dont have a cage.

Having said that maybe others have different and better ways of training their kittens smile.gif
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i put the mother and kitten in my room, don't let out.. only the mother just sometimes go out walk2 to living room.. i tried putting the kitten on the litter 2nd and 3rd time, she tried eating the sand again sweat.gif

guess have to find another way
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 5 2021, 07:33 PM)
haha, lucky I saw, had to open her mouth and took the sand out
i put the mother and kitten in my room, don't let out.. only the mother just sometimes go out walk2 to living room.. i tried putting the kitten on the litter 2nd and 3rd time, she tried eating the sand again sweat.gif

guess have to find another way
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Where do u put the litter box? where does the kitten do his business now? anywhere in ur room? laugh.gif thats y u need a confined space like a cage so that the kitten can find the litter box easily and get used to it, anyway I usually use tofu litter, no dust and bigger sized particles so its difficult to be consumed by small kittens but even if they swallow it its pretty harmless coz its made of natural products. smile.gif

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QUOTE(neome @ Mar 5 2021, 08:08 PM)
Where do u put the litter box? where does the kitten do his business now? anywhere in ur room?  laugh.gif thats y u need a confined space like a cage so that the kitten can find the litter box easily and get used to it, anyway I usually use tofu litter, no dust and bigger sized particles so its difficult to be consumed by small kittens but even if they swallow it its pretty harmless coz its made of natural products.  smile.gif
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now the mother still lick2 the kitten pee
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Hi, does anyone has experience with Iams dry cat food?

Recently I tried this food, my cat seems to like it very much. But I kinda noticed she drinks more water and did not poop every day like before. Otherwise, she is still active and playful. I checked the percentage amount of fibre is somehow lesser than other brands, but ash is much higher (10-11% iinm).

I read around, Ash is a group of minerals that includes magnesium. It is something to note if the cat has a digestive or urinary tract problem. And usually, the amount is below 10%.

Right now I am not sure whether I should continue giving her Iams or not?
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read this article again.

https://www.onlynaturalpet.com/blogs/holist...ium-in-cat-food

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ash is no longer considered a factor in causing FLUTD. Further research has shown that the main problem was the formulation of commercial pet foods:

"A high protein diet is the best way to maintain a low urinary pH naturally.

Increased hydration also prevents crystal formation.

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Hi, anyone have experience in giving cats pet fish oil?

is it any good? how muchshould we give them daily?
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 5 2021, 10:32 PM)
now the mother still lick2 the kitten pee
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Yup n soon he will start to release cute, tiny pellets of stool laugh.gif Better put him somewhere u can clean easily until he is litter trained or ur room will be soiled sweat.gif

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Hi, anyone have experience in giving cats pet fish oil?

is it any good? how muchshould we give them daily?
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follow the instruction on the label and adjust accordingly.

y do u wana giv fish oil?
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 5 2021, 11:17 PM)
read this article again.

https://www.onlynaturalpet.com/blogs/holist...ium-in-cat-food

excerpt..

ash is no longer considered a factor in causing FLUTD. Further research has shown that the main problem was the formulation of commercial pet foods:

"A high protein diet is the best way to maintain a low urinary pH naturally.

Increased hydration also prevents crystal formation.

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Protein at 29% is it good enough? Compare to other brands with at least 30% or higher.

Thanks
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 6 2021, 01:16 AM)
follow the instruction on the label and adjust accordingly.

y do u wana giv fish oil?
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i bought this brit care salmon oil online,
when received only noticed its for dogs,
i guess no harm to give my cats since its just salmon oil,
but the instruction label only have for dogs.

i read salmon oil is good for the cat’s hair & immune system, thats why im trying it out if it can lessen their hair fall.
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QUOTE(KamisF @ Mar 6 2021, 07:36 AM)
i bought this brit care salmon oil online,
when received only noticed its for dogs,
i guess no harm to give my cats since its just salmon oil,
but the instruction label only have for dogs.

i read salmon oil is good for the cat’s hair & immune system, thats why im trying it out if it can lessen their hair fall.
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here the suggestion is 1-4drops / day.

https://brit-petfood.com/en/consultations/detail?nid=434332


for shiny coat dogs/cats

they usually feed Bayer's Velcote.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 6 2021, 10:54 AM)
here the suggestion is 1-4drops / day.

https://brit-petfood.com/en/consultations/detail?nid=434332
for shiny coat dogs/cats

they usually feed  Bayer's Velcote.
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oh very small amount! i’ve been giving my cat 0.5-1ml 😅

thanks for the suggestion too, will try it out!

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QUOTE(hyperx @ Mar 6 2021, 07:27 AM)
Protein at 29% is it good enough? Compare to other brands with at least 30% or higher.

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get the best that you can afford.
you can also add wet food with meat.

https://www.nobhillcatclinic.com/sfcatblog/...food-the-answer

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Hi guys, I'm new to this kitty thing, but I'm a bit worried about getting swindled when it comes to the price of a BSH kitten. Is RM3.2k considered standard pricing? Should it come with a cert as well?
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Hi guys, I'm new to this kitty thing, but I'm a bit worried about getting swindled when it comes to the price of a BSH kitten. Is RM3.2k considered standard pricing? Should it come with a cert as well?
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please adopt. don't buy. you can go to https://www.petfinder.my/ to find a free bsh or other breed. many stray cats out there need your help.

stray cats can be beautiful too, if they are well taken care of. to give you encouragement, this is a stray cat. when I got him, he is hungry, dirty, and kutu infested kitten. 50% rescued by others, 50% chance die from hunger or car roller, if i don't rescue him. look how beautiful is he now.

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once you got your cat, you eventually will be cat lover, and eventually you will know the harm of buying. not gonna elaborate how breeders work, but yeah, just like eating sharkfin. the killing stops when the buying stops.

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please adopt. don't buy. you can go to https://www.petfinder.my/ to find a free bsh or other breed. many stray cats out there need your help.

stray cats can be beautiful too, if they are well taken care of. to give you encouragement, this is a stray cat. when I got him, he is hungry, dirty, and kutu infested kitten. 50% rescued by others, 50% chance die from hunger or car roller, if i don't rescue him. look how beautiful is he now.

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once you got your cat, you eventually will be cat lover, and eventually you will know the harm of buying. not gonna elaborate how breeders work, but yeah, just like eating sharkfin. the killing stops when the buying stops.
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nice beautiful cat u hav there thumbsup.gif I always see beautiful long haired cat like this in the wet market where I live, I think its bcoz ppl always abandon their uwanted cats there sad.gif
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nice beautiful cat u hav there  thumbsup.gif  I always see beautiful long haired cat like this in the wet market where I live, I think its bcoz ppl always abandon their uwanted cats there  sad.gif
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hi, anyone knows any person or organisation that takes in cats infected with sporo for rehabilitation?

last weekend i brought a stray to the vet because it had sore eyes. turns out it had contracted sporotrichosis.

vets advise were:

1) if i cant rehab it, have to find someone who can because the commitment to do it is quite high.

2) PTS (put to sleep)

so now im trying to look for people who can save this cat. i only have medicine for 2 weeks and after that i might euthanise the cat for the greater good.

if anyone has any avenues please send me a pm, thanks.
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my queen just delivered 4 litter. but the last one is premature and very undeveloped. hope it can survive.
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Just saw this message. I hope your kitten survived. My cat delivered 6 kittens and 2 were stillborn. The last one is the runt of the litter and we were worried it would not survive (bald headed and very weak). It was back in November during CMCO and we called nearby pharmacies to find out whether they sell milk powder and feeding bottle/syringe for baby kittens. After that we had to help the runt get enough milk from mother cat during every feeding then supplement by bottle feeding every 2 hours. By the time he's 1 month old he slowly grew stronger and growing more hair. By 2nd month old, he's starting to look handsome. Now he's the fattest/heaviest and most handsome out of the litter and is well loved by everyone. We're really thankful we managed to save him.
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QUOTE(neome @ Mar 5 2021, 07:21 PM)
For me usually I would just put newborn kitttens and the mother in a good sized cage with a litter box n other basic necessities for the mother. This is to prevent the mother from transferring the kittens to other unkown places eg in a cupboard etc. its the mother's instinct to do this until the kittens can walk and fend on their own. I would let the mother go out of the cage every now n then tho a mother who just delivered do not walk around too much. The kittens will eventually learn to use the litter box in the cage on their own. Once they are used to doing their business in the litter box then only I would let them out the cage roaming around the house. U can also use a play pen or a small room if u dont have a cage.

Having said that maybe others have different and better ways of training their kittens smile.gif
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We dare not put our mother cat and kitten in the cage because worried their little legs will get caught in the cat cage grill. We put them all in a big cardboard box and mother cat trust us enough not to move the kittens elsewhere because we accompanied her during delivery. You only start training kittens how to use litter box when they start eating solid food. Before that, mother cat is the one stimulating kittens to do their business by licking and cleaning them.
When your kitten grows little teeth and start eating the dry food (we feed dry food for Kittens to mother cat), you can start putting the litter box near them. Get a smaller one which they can climb in/out from easily. The best teacher is the mother cat so you must let her use the litter box - don't clean too much i.e must have the smell of her urine/poop there. Then monitor kittens - if they look like they're going to pee/poop, take and put them in the litter box. They will usually smell their mum's pee/poop, try to cover it, then start doing their business there.
Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 7 2021, 09:26 PM)
please adopt. don't buy. you can go to https://www.petfinder.my/ to find a free bsh or other breed. many stray cats out there need your help.

stray cats can be beautiful too, if they are well taken care of. to give you encouragement, this is a stray cat. when I got him, he is hungry, dirty, and kutu infested kitten. 50% rescued by others, 50% chance die from hunger or car roller, if i don't rescue him. look how beautiful is he now.

user posted image

once you got your cat, you eventually will be cat lover, and eventually you will know the harm of buying. not gonna elaborate how breeders work, but yeah, just like eating sharkfin. the killing stops when the buying stops.
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More than 5 years ago, we originally planned to adopt from PetFinder and contacted the person. However, her requirements were those who adopt must not put the kitten in a cage. For us, we do not plan to let out the kitten we adopt because don't want to risk it getting attacked by other cats outside or knocked down by cars. While it won't be 24x7 in the cage, we will lock it in when nobody is home. The person who put the cat for adoption said even that is not acceptable. So, in the end we bought a 6 month old kitten for a few hundred ringgit from a couple who had to sell because their young child is allergic. No regrets because the cat we got is the sweetest ever. Never scratch or bite any of us and love belly rubs. He also uses the scratching post only and does not scratch anything else once we told him not to do so the first time he tried to do it. So, whether you adopt or buy, most important is to be a responsible pet owner.
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i read someone said,

".. if human can select the 'look' of their children before birth, they would gladly do so... "

and the never ending debate goes on... biggrin.gif
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We dare not put our mother cat and kitten in the cage because worried their little legs will get caught in the cat cage grill.  We put them all in a big cardboard box and mother cat trust us enough not to move the kittens elsewhere because we accompanied her during delivery.  You only start training kittens how to use litter box when they start eating solid food.  Before that, mother cat is the one stimulating kittens to do their business by licking and cleaning them.
When your kitten grows little teeth and start eating the dry food (we feed dry food for Kittens to mother cat), you can start putting the litter box near them.  Get a smaller one which they can climb in/out from easily.  The best teacher is the mother cat so you must let her use the litter box - don't clean too much i.e must have the smell of her urine/poop there.  Then monitor kittens - if they look like they're going to pee/poop, take and put them in the litter box.  They will usually smell their mum's pee/poop, try to cover it, then start doing their business there.
Hope this helps.
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I usually line the cage with a blanket and change it regularly to make it comfortable fot the mother and kittens rolleyes.gif nvr had probs with kittens legs getting caught between the grill before smile.gif
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How do you guys handle needy cats?

When small, mine is quiet. After a year, he's become a spoiled, needy cat. Keeps meowing for attention no matter morning or night. Doesn't sleep much like a cat should be, just want to play 24/7. I do spend time to play each time, but i also need to focus on work and personal sleep. Tire him out by 1-2am doesn't work as well. Each night i think i'm getting only 3-4 hours of sleep before he makes loud noises again.

I don't have a 2nd cat due to cost and living in small apartment (most JMB disallow pets).

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 17 2021, 01:30 AM)
How do you guys handle needy cats?

When small, mine is quiet. After a year, he's become a spoiled, needy cat. Keeps meowing for attention no matter morning or night. Doesn't sleep much like a cat should be, just want to play 24/7. I do spend time to play each time, but i also need to focus on work and personal sleep. Tire him out by 1-2am doesn't work as well. Each night i think i'm getting only 3-4 hours of sleep before he makes loud noises again.

I don't have a 2nd cat due to cost and living in small apartment (most JMB disallow pets).
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Have you brought him to a vet recently to check on his health condition? I will do that if his loud meowings persists into the night. Male cat so gonna be much louder. If meowings don't stop, confirm the owner cannot rest.

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 17 2021, 01:30 AM)
How do you guys handle needy cats?

When small, mine is quiet. After a year, he's become a spoiled, needy cat. Keeps meowing for attention no matter morning or night. Doesn't sleep much like a cat should be, just want to play 24/7. I do spend time to play each time, but i also need to focus on work and personal sleep. Tire him out by 1-2am doesn't work as well. Each night i think i'm getting only 3-4 hours of sleep before he makes loud noises again.

I don't have a 2nd cat due to cost and living in small apartment (most JMB disallow pets).
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How old? spayed? neutered?

Most ppl may not agree with me but I cage my 2 cats at night, basically they are trained from they were very small to be in the cage n sleep at night, they are already used to it, usually I will 'tuck' them to sleep everynight before I go to bed, n let them out in the morning so that they dont bother me at night. Sleep time is one thing I cant compromise coz I'm working frm 8-5pm except now that Im on my sabbatical leave sweat.gif other things like food they can have anytime wink.gif

One of the advantges of training my cats to be in the cage is when i have to go somewhere for a while, i can send them to a cage based boarding place without stressing them out too much, that is if i have no other choices huhu..

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QUOTE(mame @ Mar 17 2021, 05:41 PM)
Have you brought him to a vet recently to check on his health condition? I will do that if his loud meowings persists into the night. Male cat so gonna be much louder. If meowings don't stop, confirm the owner cannot rest.
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Didn't go to vet. Cos he becomes quiet and normal once i approach him to play. When i stop play and leave him for a while, bising again. So i think he's just attention-hungry.

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How old? spayed? neutered?

Most ppl may not agree with me but I cage my 2 cats at night, basically they are trained from they were very small to be in the cage n sleep at night, they are already used to it, usually I will 'tuck' them to sleep everynight before I go to bed, n let them out in the morning so that they dont bother me at night. Sleep time is one thing I cant compromise coz I'm working frm 8-5pm except now that Im on my sabbatical leave sweat.gif other things like food they can have anytime  wink.gif

One of the advantges of training my cats to be in the cage is when i have to go somewhere for a while, i can send them to a cage based boarding place without stressing them out too much, that is if i have no other choices huhu..
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1.5 yrs old, bola gone dy. I don't cage him since small, let him freely roam the house. All his toys (plush toy, string, box etc) are readily at the living room for him. But he die die wants me to play string with him 24/7. Dont want to play by himself.
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Anyone here had success changing litter from bentonite/ clay litter to tofu?

I heard overall benefits of tofu is slightly better. Lesser dust, and cat doesn't inhale/ eat bentonite particles.

But my 8 year old has been very difficult about this lol. Even though I gradually mix (talking 20% tofu 80% old bentonite), she just refuses to use her litter bin.

She controls and goes like once a day only now. Sometimes relieving herself outside her bin even.

Should I just give up? I tried 2 brands, most recent is pottycats i think.
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QUOTE(Seager @ Mar 17 2021, 08:22 PM)
Anyone here had success changing litter from bentonite/ clay litter to tofu?

I heard overall benefits of tofu is slightly better. Lesser dust, and cat doesn't inhale/ eat bentonite particles.

But my 8 year old has been very difficult about this lol. Even though I gradually mix (talking 20% tofu 80% old bentonite), she just refuses to use her litter bin.

She controls and goes like once a day only now. Sometimes relieving herself outside her bin even.

Should I just give up? I tried 2 brands, most recent is pottycats i think.
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tough luck sometimes, entirely depends on the cat, some like some dont like.
worst is one idiot here eat the tofu litter like cat food, cos it smells so natural, one wht kawan brand the plain smells like milk, and corn smells like real corn...
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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 17 2021, 07:42 PM)
1.5 yrs old, bola gone dy. I don't cage him since small, let him freely roam the house. All his toys (plush toy, string,  box etc) are readily at the living room for him. But he die die wants me to play string with him 24/7. Dont want to play by himself.
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Hes quite big edy not really a kitten anymore huhu usually they will be less active when they grow up especially after neutering, I guess he is really spolied sweat.gif I watched 1 of Jackson Galaxy's video about training cats to let u sleep at night, he doesnt recommend locking the cat out of the bedroom or restrain them like what I do to my cats laugh.gif instead he adviced to just ignore him n eventually he will stop and learn to let u sleep something like that huhu..
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 17 2021, 11:49 PM)
tough luck sometimes, entirely depends on the cat, some like some dont like.
worst is one idiot here eat the tofu litter like cat food, cos it smells so natural, one wht kawan brand the plain smells like milk, and corn smells like real corn...
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My cat completely hates it.
This morning she unleashed a load under the dining table instead.

Cleared her bin and reverted to clay again. I guess she's just not meant to use tofu.
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QUOTE(dante1989 @ Mar 8 2021, 08:26 PM)
hi, anyone knows any person or organisation that takes in cats infected with sporo for rehabilitation?

last weekend i brought a stray to the vet because it had sore eyes. turns out it had contracted sporotrichosis.

vets advise were:

1) if i cant rehab it, have to find someone who can because the commitment to do it is quite high.

2) PTS (put to sleep)

so now im trying to look for people who can save this cat. i only have medicine for 2 weeks and after that i might euthanise the cat for the greater good.

if anyone has any avenues please send me a pm, thanks.
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Hope I'm not too late, just dropped you a contact.
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QUOTE(Seager @ Mar 17 2021, 08:22 PM)
Anyone here had success changing litter from bentonite/ clay litter to tofu?

I heard overall benefits of tofu is slightly better. Lesser dust, and cat doesn't inhale/ eat bentonite particles.

But my 8 year old has been very difficult about this lol. Even though I gradually mix (talking 20% tofu 80% old bentonite), she just refuses to use her litter bin.

She controls and goes like once a day only now. Sometimes relieving herself outside her bin even.

Should I just give up? I tried 2 brands, most recent is pottycats i think.
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No issue for me. From those cheap sand litter to tofu. Didn't even mix. Direct change

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QUOTE(neome @ Mar 17 2021, 06:00 PM)
How old? spayed? neutered?

Most ppl may not agree with me but I cage my 2 cats at night, basically they are trained from they were very small to be in the cage n sleep at night, they are already used to it, usually I will 'tuck' them to sleep everynight before I go to bed, n let them out in the morning so that they dont bother me at night. Sleep time is one thing I cant compromise coz I'm working frm 8-5pm except now that Im on my sabbatical leave sweat.gif other things like food they can have anytime  wink.gif

One of the advantges of training my cats to be in the cage is when i have to go somewhere for a while, i can send them to a cage based boarding place without stressing them out too much, that is if i have no other choices huhu..
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You miss the sweetest part of having cat as pet hehe. My 2 cats sleep in room with me. Before sleep, one will purr me, I touch touch touch until sendiri fell asleep. 5am one will purr me, and I just blindly touch touch touch continue sleep.

But now, the cat get smarter. Rarely 5am wake me up. I wake up, he heard movement on bed then will jump up purpurpur me. Best wake up call
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QUOTE(jukoh @ Mar 11 2021, 03:37 PM)
More than 5 years ago, we originally planned to adopt from PetFinder and contacted the person.  However, her requirements were those who adopt must not put the kitten in a cage.  For us, we do not plan to let out the kitten we adopt because don't want to risk it getting attacked by other cats outside or knocked down by cars.  While it won't be 24x7 in the cage, we will lock it in when nobody is home.  The person who put the cat for adoption said even that is not acceptable.  So, in the end we bought a 6 month old kitten for a few hundred ringgit from a couple who had to sell because their young child is allergic.  No regrets because the cat we got is the sweetest ever.  Never scratch or bite any of us and love belly rubs.  He also uses the scratching post only and does not scratch anything else once we told him not to do so the first time he tried to do it.  So, whether you adopt or buy, most important is to be a responsible pet owner.
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Hehe. I don't agree cage too. Free roam inside house. No go outside. House is their cage. But your house, your choice, so no comment.

Feel pity leh put in cage, like 90% of time in prison only. I had 2 fcov cats isolated in a room. I also feel pity their roaming space so limited and trying find adopter who can give them bigger space to roam.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 21 2021, 04:34 PM)
You miss the sweetest part of having cat as pet hehe. My 2 cats sleep in room with me. Before sleep, one will purr me, I touch touch touch until sendiri fell asleep. 5am one will purr me, and I just blindly touch touch touch continue sleep.

But now, the cat get smarter. Rarely 5am wake me up. I wake up, he heard movement on bed then will jump up purpurpur me. Best wake up call
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I thot Im the crazy cat lady laugh.gif haha ok enjoy ur cats rclxms.gif My cats only 1 likes to sleep on the bed, the other long haired one only like to sleep on the floor/hard cold surfaces maybe due to the long hair he feels hot and he's not very affectionate n low maintenance only come to visit n sniff2 me 2-3 times a day only, most of the time he will spend lying on the marble floor sleeping or playing on hes own or with the other cat biggrin.gif
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Need help.
My cat, was found in my drain laying on its back with all feet up, bleeding nose and mouth.
He's breathing heavily when I found him around 7:00pm. (now the breathing already slow down & I think he's sleeping). He can still walk a bit just now and pick up his head.
Hopefully he's not being knock by cars.

What can I do to help him tonight... tomorrow morning I will go to veterinary for checkup.

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QUOTE(Amzach @ Mar 22 2021, 10:28 PM)
Need help.
My cat, was found in my drain laying on its back with all feet up, bleeding nose and mouth.
He's breathing heavily when I found him around 7:00pm. (now the breathing already slow down & I think he's sleeping). He can still walk a bit just now and pick up his head.
Hopefully he's not being knock by cars.

What can I do to help him tonight... tomorrow morning I will go to veterinary for checkup.
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Hope he is fine. I also dunno how. Perhaps spend more time accompany him
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 21 2021, 04:43 PM)
Hehe. I don't agree cage too. Free roam inside house. No go outside. House is their cage. But your house, your choice, so no comment.

Feel pity leh put in cage, like 90% of time in prison only. I had 2 fcov cats isolated in a room. I also feel pity their roaming space so limited and trying find adopter who can give them bigger space to roam.
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lol yeah my two cats are never caged unless we're taking them to the vet. They aren't allowed outside either - average outside cat lifespan is 5 years, average inside cat lifespan is 15 years.
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QUOTE(Amzach @ Mar 22 2021, 10:28 PM)
Need help.
My cat, was found in my drain laying on its back with all feet up, bleeding nose and mouth.
He's breathing heavily when I found him around 7:00pm. (now the breathing already slow down & I think he's sleeping). He can still walk a bit just now and pick up his head.
Hopefully he's not being knock by cars.

What can I do to help him tonight... tomorrow morning I will go to veterinary for checkup.
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hope he is ok. pls update.
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Yeah pls update us, I pray that he is ok but if he doesnt survive at least u hav found him and spent the last night with him, that will comfort and make him feel at ease sad.gif
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Mar 23 2021, 07:28 AM)
lol yeah my two cats are never caged unless we're taking them to the vet. They aren't allowed outside either - average outside cat lifespan is 5 years, average inside cat lifespan is 15 years.
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If outside cat lifespan 5 years i will be glad. From my experience it's 6months to 1 year.

Outside my house got alot of strays. I do put some buffet food for them at my porch. The rate is 9/12 cats are dead or missing within 1 year. Still got 3 cats roaming outside for 1 year+.

Dead reasons usually roll by car, bitten by stray dog. Some just goes missing. I assume they are dead too cause sometimes neighbour say they clean up corpse at garden few times d. Or kill by snake cause got snake incident in neighbourhood too.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 23 2021, 08:05 PM)
If outside cat lifespan 5 years i will be glad. From my experience it's 6months to 1 year.

Outside my house got alot of strays. I do put some buffet food for them at my porch. The rate is 9/12 cats are dead or missing within 1 year. Still got 3 cats roaming outside for 1 year+.

Dead reasons usually roll by car, bitten by stray dog. Some just goes missing. I assume they are dead too cause sometimes neighbour say they clean up corpse at garden few times d. Or kill by snake cause got snake incident in neighbourhood too.
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It's an average number. That means that in a range of outside cats' lifespans added together and divided by number of cats, it's 5 years.
Compared to the average of 15 years for an indoor cat, which is three times an outdoor cat.

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QUOTE(neome @ Mar 23 2021, 12:26 PM)
Yeah pls update us, I pray that he is ok but if he doesnt survive at least u hav found him and spent the last night with him, that will comfort and make him feel at ease  sad.gif
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Sent him to veterinary for check up, they say nothing, just give me antibiotic and inflamation medicine.
Need to force feed last night. Today morning he's eating a little bit on its own. Can walk around slowly. No limping.
Hopefully he will recover in 2 - 3 days.

Most patient cat I have met.
My 4 year old son always carry it around like a teddy bear, but never before seen the cat clawed at my son.
The cat even become restless when it heard my son crying.

I'll be damn glad if it's nothing serious.
Thank you all for your concern.
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it is 'expensive' to check properly, which includes xray, blood test etc.
visual check frm the outside = ok
where the blood comes frm = ???
what happened to the cat? = no one knows
got whack /kick/throw by ppl, hit by bicycle/vehicle/moving object, fell frm tree, bitten by snake / dog...
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The fact that the cat is still alive after almost 48hours after the incident is a very good sign, if he had internal bleeding he would have been dead by now, I think he is recovering well after the trauma just keep giving him the meds n sufficient food/water, I’ll keep my prayers for him ☺️
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Anyone around selayang wants 1.5 boxes of pottycats tofu aid litter? My cat completely reject so back to bentonite. Might as well give away for free than throw it away.

Can self pickup.
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QUOTE(jukoh @ Mar 11 2021, 03:13 PM)
Just saw this message.  I hope your kitten survived.  My cat delivered 6 kittens and 2 were stillborn.  The last one is the runt of the litter and we were worried it would not survive (bald headed and very weak).  It was back in November during CMCO and we called nearby pharmacies to find out whether they sell milk powder and feeding bottle/syringe for baby kittens.  After that we had to help the runt get enough milk from mother cat during every feeding then supplement by bottle feeding every 2 hours.  By the time he's 1 month old he slowly grew stronger and growing more hair.  By 2nd month old, he's starting to look handsome.  Now he's the fattest/heaviest and most handsome out of the litter and is well loved by everyone.  We're really thankful we managed to save him.
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any tips to give milk for 2 days old newborn kitten?

this one smallest one among the others and he seems like dont know how to get milk from the mother, always sesat to other places even after i help to put it near to the mother nipple

tried to bottle feed also he dont know how to drink and mouth seems so small to try force the teats in 😓
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QUOTE(KamisF @ Apr 7 2021, 01:58 PM)
any tips to give milk for 2 days old newborn kitten?

this one smallest one among the others and he seems like dont know how to get milk from the mother, always sesat to other places even after i help to put it near to the mother nipple

tried to bottle feed also he dont know how to drink and mouth seems so small to try force the teats in  😓
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If got mum. Lock them inside room. Mum should take care child naturally I guess. I raised 2 families before. Don't even need bother the child until month 3, cause mum is there.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 7 2021, 02:59 PM)
If got mum. Lock them inside room. Mum should take care child naturally I guess. I raised 2 families before. Don't even need bother the child until month 3, cause mum is there.
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got mom, but its first time mother cat,
see this 3 other bro/sis is thriving while 1 is very skinny and out of place, im worried about the skinny one 😓

they are all locked in a room and inside small cat house.

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QUOTE(KamisF @ Apr 7 2021, 03:27 PM)
got mom, but its first time mother cat,
see this 3 other bro/sis is thriving while 1 is very skinny and out of place, im worried about the skinny one 😓

they are all locked in a room and inside small cat house.

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maybe need a little help by force feeding wit a 1 ml syringe every 2 hours? looks like too small n maybe no energy to compete with the others for mum's milk if dont force feed sad.gif for all we know the little guy might be born premature therefore will need some help

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QUOTE(neome @ Apr 7 2021, 04:57 PM)
maybe need a little help by force feeding wit a 1 ml syringe every 2 hours? looks like too small n maybe no energy to compete with the others for mum's milk if dont force feed  sad.gif for all we know the little guy might be born premature therefore will need some help
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will try to get a 1ml syringe, i bought milk bottle for kitten but seems too big for it, the smallest one was the last one to come out 😓
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QUOTE(KamisF @ Apr 7 2021, 05:12 PM)
will try to get a 1ml syringe, i bought milk bottle for kitten but seems too big for it, the smallest one was the last one to come out 😓
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Just read your message. FYI, we use 1ml syringe and slowly 'shoot' in the mouth (careful not to choke the kitten or hurt the mouth). Kitten powder milk is only as supplement (preferably every 2 hours if it's not drinking mother cat's milk) because most important is the mother cat's own milk. We also help the kitten to find and latch on to the mother cat's nipple and take other kittens to put on another nipple if they try to 'fight' with the runt because the runt is too weak to fight on its own. It will drink milk a while then sleep so we have to wake it up gently and put it to the nipple again. Sometimes need to tell mother cat to stay still and pet/encourage her to take care of the runt.
You can observe if mother cat totally don't care about the kitten which means survival rate of the kitten is slim unless you help it. We noticed cos mother cat has other kittens fighting over her nipples and is too tired to really care about the runt who's not latching on so we keep bringing it to her to lick/clean. If mother cat did not clean the kitten, you need to take cloth (wet with warm water) to gently stimulate the kitten's bottom so that it will poop/pee. Try to google 'how to care for runt kitten' and read/watch videos.
We are so thankful ours survive and is now the 2nd biggest size out of its siblings.
Best of luck.
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QUOTE(jukoh @ Apr 8 2021, 05:36 PM)
Just read your message.  FYI, we use 1ml syringe and slowly 'shoot' in the mouth (careful not to choke the kitten or hurt the mouth). Kitten powder milk is only as supplement (preferably every 2 hours if it's not drinking mother cat's milk) because most important is the mother cat's own milk. We also help the kitten to find and latch on to the mother cat's nipple and take other kittens to put on another nipple if they try to 'fight' with the runt because the runt is too weak to fight on its own.  It will drink milk a while then sleep so we have to wake it up gently and put it to the nipple again.  Sometimes need to tell mother cat to stay still and pet/encourage her to take care of the runt.
You can observe if mother cat totally don't care about the kitten which means survival rate of the kitten is slim unless you help it.  We noticed cos mother cat has other kittens fighting over her nipples and is too tired to really care about the runt who's not latching on so we keep bringing it to her to lick/clean.  If mother cat did not clean the kitten, you need to take cloth (wet with warm water) to gently stimulate the kitten's bottom so that it will poop/pee.  Try to google 'how to care for runt kitten' and read/watch videos.
We are so thankful ours survive and is now the 2nd biggest size out of its siblings.
Best of luck.
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my one little runt has passed away this evening when i got back from work, i did give it milk every 2 hour with the 1ml syringe when im at home but no one to look after it when im at work, it really cant get any milk from the mommy.

now going to bury it, 😭



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QUOTE(KamisF @ Apr 8 2021, 05:48 PM)
my one little runt has passed away this evening when i got back from work, i did give it milk every 2 hour with the 1ml syringe when im at home but no one to look after it when im at work, it really cant get any milk from the mommy.

now going to bury it, 😭
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I know the feeling really sad 😥 I had the same prob once but not able to strictly follow the 2 hour feeding rule n the kitten ended up dying too, oh well at least u hav tried ur best.
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QUOTE(KamisF @ Apr 8 2021, 05:48 PM)
my one little runt has passed away this evening when i got back from work, i did give it milk every 2 hour with the 1ml syringe when im at home but no one to look after it when im at work, it really cant get any milk from the mommy.

now going to bury it, 😭
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oh shit. so sad. i saw that type of skinny kitten before too. but still can walk around after 1 month. he passed away due to car rollover cry.gif

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QUOTE(KamisF @ Apr 8 2021, 05:48 PM)
my one little runt has passed away this evening when i got back from work, i did give it milk every 2 hour with the 1ml syringe when im at home but no one to look after it when im at work, it really cant get any milk from the mommy.

now going to bury it, 😭
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I'm so sorry for your loss. Its heartbreaking when you tried your best and still cannot save it. My runt was lucky cos it was during MCO/CMCO and I was in between working from home and my children study online. So all of us took turns to take care day and night for 1-2 weeks.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 23 2021, 08:05 PM)
If outside cat lifespan 5 years i will be glad. From my experience it's 6months to 1 year.

Outside my house got alot of strays. I do put some buffet food for them at my porch. The rate is 9/12 cats are dead or missing within 1 year. Still got 3 cats roaming outside for 1 year+.

Dead reasons usually roll by car, bitten by stray dog. Some just goes missing. I assume they are dead too cause sometimes neighbour say they clean up corpse at garden few times d. Or kill by snake cause got snake incident in neighbourhood too.
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Outside cat had to defend themselves from so many things as you mention. In our neighbourhood, there's a huge phyton lurking around eating cat for dinner. Cought the action on CCTV before. sad.gif Our neghbourhood CCTV also cought a pack of strays dogs ripped a cat into pieces. sad.gif
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What do you people think about caging a cat? Becos like others say, cats have short lifespan if allowed to roam around. Cos of cars, dogs, fighting and getting sick....etc.

Now every "expert" says it is not ok to cage up a cat. And that is true - at first. Cats hate it. Especially stray cats.

But what if the stray cat had to spend WEEKS in a cage being boarded at the vet due to operation....and has since become "trained" to accept a cage?

What if after going home, the cat doesn't like the kid in the house becos that kid is just noisy and a bit rowdy with the cat?

So from my observation, the cat actually prefers being in the cage NOW. Especially if got litter box and food/water provided.

It seems the cat has come to associate the cage with "peace and quiet".

Is it ok to keep the cat in the cage from now on? What if the cat is suspected to have FIV or FLV and caging it up is actually a good move to lengthen its life?

Or can a previously stray cat (actually just free to roam here and there, and being fed by multiple houses) be "trained" to become an indoor house cat?

Has anyone done this before? Made a stray cat become a indoor house cat?

So many benefits for cats to be indoors. And definitely can live > 10 years like this.

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 12 2021, 04:28 AM)
What do you people think about caging a cat? Becos like others say, cats have short lifespan if allowed to roam around. Cos of cars, dogs, fighting and getting sick....etc.

Now every "expert" says it is not ok to cage up a cat. And that is true - at first. Cats hate it. Especially stray cats.

But what if the stray cat had to spend WEEKS in a cage being boarded at the vet due to operation....and has since become "trained" to accept a cage?

What if after going home, the cat doesn't like the kid in the house becos that kid is just noisy and a bit rowdy with the cat?

So from my observation, the cat actually prefers being in the cage NOW. Especially if got litter box and food/water provided.

It seems the cat has come to associate the cage with "peace and quiet".

Is it ok to keep the cat in the cage from now on? What if the cat is suspected to have FIV or FLV and caging it up is actually a good move to lengthen its life?

Or can a previously stray cat (actually just free to roam here and there, and being fed by multiple houses) be "trained" to become an indoor house cat?

Has anyone done this before? Made a stray cat become a indoor house cat?

So many benefits for cats to be indoors. And definitely can live > 10 years like this.
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All my cats are stray and fully indoor. Once you indoor, is highly subjective to let them roam outdoor. They can go missing, accident or contract virus home. But my neighbours let them roam. Pro and cons. Freedom vs those risk.

My cats fully indoor and roam freely in the house. I never believe cats like to be cage. Do you want yourself to be caged? We can't even stand for half a day. They no bising doesn't mean they like. It's they accept. Like prisoner, do they create riot daily? They just accept but doesn't mean they like.

I have fcov cats too. Keep them in a room. Feel pity despite have a full room. They always meow want to out of room. I can only let them vacation out once in a while daily.

What's the point of long live if you live in prison? And the prison is freaking small. Cage vs room vs house. If you think cat likes to be in cage, open the cage door. She like she will stay there forever. If she is not , it's your self fulfilling prophecy.


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 13 2021, 04:42 PM)
All my cats are stray and fully indoor. Once you indoor, is highly subjective to let them roam outdoor. They can go missing, accident or contract virus home. But my neighbours let them roam. Pro and cons. Freedom vs those risk.

My cats fully indoor and roam freely in the house. I never believe cats like to be cage. Do you want yourself to be caged? We can't even stand for half a day. They no bising doesn't mean they like. It's they accept. Like prisoner, do they create riot daily? They just accept but doesn't mean they like.

I have fcov cats too. Keep them in a room. Feel pity despite have a full room. They always meow want to out of room. I can only let them vacation out once in a while daily.

What's the point of long live if you live in prison? And the prison is freaking small. Cage vs room vs house. If you think cat likes to be in cage, open the cage door. She like she will stay there forever. If she is not  , it's your self fulfilling prophecy.
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What if nobody at home (all working) to care for the cat indoors?

And due to a health issue, is best to cage the cat, otherwise will get worse?

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my cat is caged during the night and in the afternoon. she likes to roam around, gets tired, and go back to her cage, I leave the door open so whenever she feels like doing an activity or purr at me, it is free.

At about 9 pm, she knows the routine, gets back to her crib, and never leaves the cage. So I locked the cage door. Reason? I don't know, I feel that this is a very well-trained cat, though i never train her. She doesnt scratch my furniture at all!
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 12 2021, 04:28 AM)
What do you people think about caging a cat? Becos like others say, cats have short lifespan if allowed to roam around. Cos of cars, dogs, fighting and getting sick....etc.

Now every "expert" says it is not ok to cage up a cat. And that is true - at first. Cats hate it. Especially stray cats.

But what if the stray cat had to spend WEEKS in a cage being boarded at the vet due to operation....and has since become "trained" to accept a cage?

What if after going home, the cat doesn't like the kid in the house becos that kid is just noisy and a bit rowdy with the cat?

So from my observation, the cat actually prefers being in the cage NOW. Especially if got litter box and food/water provided.

It seems the cat has come to associate the cage with "peace and quiet".

Is it ok to keep the cat in the cage from now on? What if the cat is suspected to have FIV or FLV and caging it up is actually a good move to lengthen its life?

Or can a previously stray cat (actually just free to roam here and there, and being fed by multiple houses) be "trained" to become an indoor house cat?

Has anyone done this before? Made a stray cat become a indoor house cat?

So many benefits for cats to be indoors. And definitely can live > 10 years like this.
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I do not cage my two cats - they are not strays, but I adopted them from the shelter. They have full reign over the apartment (and eventually house). I've never sent them to boarding, I usually have friends or hire a catsitter to come every other day. They are not allowed outside at all. Even if I adopted strays, I wouldn't let them back outside anymore. Average lifespan of an outdoor cat is 5 years, vs indoor cat is 15 years.

QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 13 2021, 06:41 PM)
What if nobody at home (all working) to care for the cat indoors?

And due to a health issue, is best to cage the cat, otherwise will get worse?
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Both my spouse and I currently work outside the home, and they are fine on their own for the day. Cats sleep 16 hours a day anyway.
What kind of health issues? When one of my cats needed the E-collar, I stayed home from work for a couple of days to monitor her. Otherwise, administering medication before and after we get back from work was fine.

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 12 2021, 04:28 AM)
What do you people think about caging a cat? Becos like others say, cats have short lifespan if allowed to roam around. Cos of cars, dogs, fighting and getting sick....etc.

Now every "expert" says it is not ok to cage up a cat. And that is true - at first. Cats hate it. Especially stray cats.

But what if the stray cat had to spend WEEKS in a cage being boarded at the vet due to operation....and has since become "trained" to accept a cage?

What if after going home, the cat doesn't like the kid in the house becos that kid is just noisy and a bit rowdy with the cat?

So from my observation, the cat actually prefers being in the cage NOW. Especially if got litter box and food/water provided.

It seems the cat has come to associate the cage with "peace and quiet".

Is it ok to keep the cat in the cage from now on? What if the cat is suspected to have FIV or FLV and caging it up is actually a good move to lengthen its life?

Or can a previously stray cat (actually just free to roam here and there, and being fed by multiple houses) be "trained" to become an indoor house cat?

Has anyone done this before? Made a stray cat become a indoor house cat?

So many benefits for cats to be indoors. And definitely can live > 10 years like this.
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What I can say is having to care for cat/s is a very big commitment, I believe everyone has their own way of doing it, ppl can only advice and share their experiences but what works for others may not work for u, u just hav to find a perfect balance for u and ur cats to live in peace and harmony, good luck and may u live happily with ur cat/s smile.gif
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What I can say is having to care for cat/s is a very big commitment, I believe everyone has their own way of doing it, ppl can only advice and share their experiences but what works for others may not work for u, u just hav to find a perfect balance for u and ur cats to live in peace and harmony, good luck and may u live happily with ur cat/s  smile.gif
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Agree 100%.

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 14 2021, 03:58 AM)
I do not cage my two cats - they are not strays, but I adopted them from the shelter. They have full reign over the apartment (and eventually house). I've never sent them to boarding, I usually have friends or hire a catsitter to come every other day. They are not allowed outside at all. Even if I adopted strays, I wouldn't let them back outside anymore. Average lifespan of an outdoor cat is 5 years, vs indoor cat is 15 years.
Both my spouse and I currently work outside the home, and they are fine on their own for the day. Cats sleep 16 hours a day anyway.
What kind of health issues? When one of my cats needed the E-collar, I stayed home from work for a couple of days to monitor her. Otherwise, administering medication before and after we get back from work was fine.
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What if the cat is suspected of having FLV or FIV? And these are long term health issues which make them more vulnerable to get other issues.

So the best step would be to cage them up permanently (but in a large cage)?
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What if the cat is suspected of having FLV or FIV? And these are long term health issues which make them more vulnerable to get other issues.

So the best step would be to cage them up permanently (but in a large cage)?
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I think there are ways to manage it without having to cage them temporarily or even permanently. I'm just not familiar with them so I'm not going to advise you on that
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I think there are ways to manage it without having to cage them temporarily or even permanently. I'm just not familiar with them so I'm not going to advise you on that
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There is no one to look after the cat during the day, because those guys work 7 days a week, and the cat is a stray cat-turned-semi-adopted.

Caging it just means it becomes "fully" adopted, I guess?

It has a serious problem with one of its legs though, so it's not like it is so healthy to roam freely.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 13 2021, 06:41 PM)
What if nobody at home (all working) to care for the cat indoors?

And due to a health issue, is best to cage the cat, otherwise will get worse?
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I don't understand why free roaming inside the house give problem to health? Maybe can explain more. If you worry your things get broken, then you have to adjust your furniture. Surprisingly none of my cats break anything. They walk delicately.

If leg issue like you mentioned, I think the cat can decide herself when to walk and jump? Takkan pain still dumb dumb go jump. Like human, whole day sit sofa die first or another human who walk around daily?

QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 14 2021, 12:25 PM)
What if the cat is suspected of having FLV or FIV? And these are long term health issues which make them more vulnerable to get other issues.

So the best step would be to cage them up permanently (but in a large cage)?
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Do you scared the cat infect other healthy cat? If there is only 1 cat again I don't understand why roaming around inside house is issue to health.

The only thing you need make sure is doors windows always closed. Then they won't roam outside and missing.

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I don't understand why free roaming inside the house give problem to health? Maybe can explain more. If you worry your things get broken, then you have to adjust your furniture. Surprisingly none of my cats break anything. They walk delicately.

If leg issue like you mentioned, I think the cat can decide herself when to walk and jump? Takkan pain still dumb dumb go jump. Like human, whole day sit sofa die first or another human who walk around daily?
Do you scared the cat infect other healthy cat? If there is only 1 cat again I don't understand why roaming around inside house is issue to health.

The only thing you need make sure is doors windows always closed. Then they won't roam outside and missing.
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Well, all cats are different, and this cat already get an accident after being uncaged just for a few days. Suffered a big wound on the leg dunno caused by what. Maybe dog bite........

And the former issue is also leg related dry.gif

As for roaming inside house, well the cat doesn't seem to like being confined to the house; previously it was a free roaming stray cat, so you cannot expect it to like being indoors. However, being in the cage seems quite ok for it maybe, after so long being boarded at the vet (so gotten used to being confined to a small cage).

Secondly, the people are not in the house to "jaga" the cat. And then they also don't like the smell of cat poo indoors.

And finally, I am not the one looking after the cat. Just asking out of concern for its future and wellbeing. I am just helping them to look after it if you understand what I mean laugh.gif

I also seen in my housing area, numerous cats dying after getting knocked down by cars, so I am fully aware how short of a life that a stray cat has. Not even 2 years for many of them. It is a very harsh life out there.

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Well, all cats are different, and this cat already get an accident after being uncaged just for a few days. Suffered a big wound on the leg dunno caused by what. Maybe dog bite........

And the former issue is also leg related  dry.gif

As for roaming inside house, well the cat doesn't seem to like being confined to the house; previously it was a free roaming stray cat, so you cannot expect it to like being indoors. However, being in the cage seems quite ok for it maybe, after so long being boarded at the vet (so gotten used to being confined to a small cage).

Secondly, the people are not in the house to "jaga" the cat. And then they also don't like the smell of cat poo indoors.

And finally, I am not the one looking after the cat. Just asking out of concern for its future and wellbeing. I am just helping them to look after it if you understand what I mean  laugh.gif

I also seen in my housing area, numerous cats dying after getting knocked down by cars, so I am fully aware how short of a life that a stray cat has. Not even 2 years for many of them. It is a very harsh life out there.
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Seems complicated lol. How many cats and dogs in the house? So you are in a sharing housemates / working adult house?

For my cats, they always want out the room and roam. They will meow once in a while. Now you mentioned, yeah they won't meow in cage too. Sometimes I put those fcov cats in cage in living room for a 'break' away from room. But of course if you open cage door, they will roam. This shows they don't want be confined either.

I am not cat, but rationally no living things want to be confined. You are right outside can't survive long. My experience is 3/11 outside cats is surviving for 1.5years now. Others dead or missing.



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Seems complicated lol. How many cats and dogs in the house? So you are in a sharing housemates / working adult house?

For my cats, they always want out the room and roam. They will meow once in a while. Now you mentioned, yeah they won't meow in cage too. Sometimes I put those fcov cats in cage in living room for a 'break' away from room. But of course if you open cage door, they will roam. This shows they don't want be confined either.

I am not cat, but rationally no living things want to be confined. You are right outside can't survive long. My experience is 3/11 outside cats is surviving for 1.5years now. Others dead or missing.
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I respect your patience for answering his questions, I dont get any of the probs he mentioned, not sure what he really seek for here laugh.gif

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I respect your patience for  answering his questions, I dont get any of the probs he mentioned, not sure what he really seek for here  laugh.gif
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Maybe my answers can save a cat freedom lol
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Seems complicated lol. How many cats and dogs in the house? So you are in a sharing housemates / working adult house?

For my cats, they always want out the room and roam. They will meow once in a while. Now you mentioned, yeah they won't meow in cage too. Sometimes I put those fcov cats in cage in living room for a 'break' away from room. But of course if you open cage door, they will roam. This shows they don't want be confined either.

I am not cat, but rationally no living things want to be confined. You are right outside can't survive long. My experience is 3/11 outside cats is surviving for 1.5years now. Others dead or missing.
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The cat is actually a stray cat but being fed by another house. But that is all they can do.

The cat fell ill and I took it to the vet. And it had to stay there for a long time. All along I assumed it was a stray until afterwards....

So we are from different houses.

Now after the long stay, the cat came back and now staying with its former "owners".

But it's suspected to have a long term health issue. FIV or FLV.

And the mishap it suffered only serves to reinforce the notion that it will not survive long if let loose to roam again.

But caging seems to be the only option. As it's not possible for it to be an indoor house cat due to all the reasons I already elaborated previously....

Caging is a difficult decision that me and the "owners" are having to make....

Are things clear now?

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The cat is actually a stray cat but being fed by another house. But that is all they can do.

The cat fell ill and I took it to the vet. And it had to stay there for a long time. All along I assumed it was a stray until afterwards....

So we are from different houses.

Now after the long stay, the cat came back and now staying with its former "owners".

But it's suspected to have a long term health issue. FIV or FLV.

And the mishap it suffered only serves to reinforce the notion that it will not survive long if let loose to roam again.

But caging seems to be the only option. As it's not possible for it to be an indoor house cat due to all the reasons I already elaborated previously....

Caging is a difficult decision that me and the "owners" are having to make....

Are things clear now?
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Is this a community cat or something? laugh.gif seems to me like its a stray which nobody really owns and nobody is willing to based on the reasons u gave from rowdy kids, suspected health probs to not liking the smell of cat poo in the house laugh.gif if so just let him go or send him to a shelter, not sure why you and the so called other owners want to cage him huhu

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Is this a community cat or something?  laugh.gif seems to me like its a stray which nobody really owns and nobody is willing to based on the reasons u gave from rowdy kids, suspected health probs to not liking the smell of cat poo in the house  laugh.gif if so just let him go or send him to a shelter, not sure why you and the so called other owners want to cage him huhu
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You do realize sending cat to a shelter is like death sentence? As nobody wants to adopt them and they are probably put to sleep after a while?
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You do realize sending cat to a shelter is like death sentence? As nobody wants to adopt them and they are probably put to sleep after a while?
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If u think putting him in a cage for the rest of his life is better than giving at least the slightest chance of him being adopted and have his own family that will love and take care of him by all means go ahead, it seemed to me like u have made up ur mind from the first time u posted even after so many counter arguments brought by the forumners here huhu
oh and caging means fully adopted? not sure what tht means laugh.gif

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If u think putting him in a cage for the rest of his life is better than giving at least the slightest chance of him being adopted and have his own family that will love and take care of him by all means go ahead, it seemed to me like u have made up ur mind from the first time u posted even after so many counter arguments brought by the forumners here huhu
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I have asked around outside and it seems that many people do keep cats in cages.

But why when online, it surely looks like people want to put on a facade, and won't admit to doing this?

Hmmm.....wink.gif

But go and look at petshops and the cages they sell and then tell me what you think wink.gif
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 14 2021, 11:03 PM)
I have asked around outside and it seems that many people do keep cats in cages.

But why when online, it surely looks like people want to put on a facade, and won't admit to doing this?

Hmmm.....wink.gif

But go and look at petshops and the cages they sell and then tell me what you think wink.gif
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Haha ok i dont put any facade not sure about anybody else here, I dont think caging for certain period of time like at night or when the cat is sick etc is a prob, I do it to my cats too, but to cage them for 24hours for the reasons u gave like not liking the smell of cat poo in the house thats just unacceptable sweat.gif anyway good luck for whichever decision u make, do what u think is best for the cat and u dont have to seek any validation for it rolleyes.gif
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Haha ok i dont put any facade not sure about anybody else here, I dont think caging for certain period of time like at night or when the cat is sick etc is a prob, I do it to my cats too, but to cage them for 24hours for the reasons u gave like not liking the smell of cat poo in the house thats just unacceptable sweat.gif anyway good luck for whichever decision u make, do what u think is best for the cat and u dont have to seek any validation for it  rolleyes.gif
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I don't know, I guess I was hoping to hear of anyone's experience with keeping cats in cages, but it appears, at least on the internet, that such people do not exist. dry.gif

I did search such topics in Mr Google and also read ONLY the same preaching (don't keep cats in cages, etc, etc). I understand it, really I do, which is why I said....it's a difficult decision.

I don't pretend to be some cat expert, in fact I don't even keep any cats at all.

I just happen to like cats although the people who call the shots in my house do not, and I also help the cats in my neighborhood after being aware of how short their lives are out there (which is why we never get buried by cats), their mortality rate being so high.

But in the past.....I have seen with my own eyes, how some people actually do keep cats permanently in cages, and not only that, they cram them up in small cages or keep many in a chicken coop. Don't ask me to give details if you want to judge the guy who kept his cats (maybe 10 of them) inside a chicken coop. He lives near the jungle and if he were to let them roam free, they would all be gone faster than you can say meow.....

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Ok. Background stories are clear. You can't keep that cat indoor because your family don't like. Not about the cat health prob cause it's never a problem to health roaming inside the house.

I also have communities cats which few houses fed. As mentioned now only 3/11 survived after 1.5 years. It breaks my heart everytime one of them dead or missing. My own consolation is, at least they lived their live with freedom. And won't lack of food during their lifetime living in my neighbourhood. I also have the urged to adopt them but my house full of cats. No more capacity.

Heck I can also buy a cage, caged them at the porch. But what's the meaning? I am sure it's not what the cats want.

Since the cat is injured and will injured easily again outside, best you can do is find the cat an adopter that can give the cat cage free life. Temporarily you can cage him while searching but for whole life? That's torturing.

Of course there are alot of ppl who cage them. But that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, at least in my opinion. I think you are in dilemma too, otherwise you won't be asking opinion. Finding adopter is best solution, it's just whether you want go the extra mile persistently. Lucky you know sending to shelter is gg
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Personally, if the "owners" aren't willing to make sacrifices for the cat and take proper care of it, then the cat is better off elsewhere.
24/7 caging is not caring for the cat.

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 14 2021, 11:33 PM)
I don't know, I guess I was hoping to hear of anyone's experience with keeping cats in cages, but it appears, at least on the internet, that such people do not exist.  dry.gif

I did search such topics in Mr Google and also read ONLY the same preaching (don't keep cats in cages, etc, etc). I understand it, really I do, which is why I said....it's a difficult decision.

I don't pretend to be some cat expert, in fact I don't even keep any cats at all.

I just happen to like cats although the people who call the shots in my house do not, and I also help the cats in my neighborhood after being aware of how short their lives are out there (which is why we never get buried by cats), their mortality rate being so high.

But in the past.....I have seen with my own eyes, how some people actually do keep cats permanently in cages, and not only that, they cram them up in small cages or keep many in a chicken coop. Don't ask me to give details if you want to judge the guy who kept his cats (maybe 10 of them) inside a chicken coop. He lives near the jungle and if he were to let them roam free, they would all be gone faster than you can say meow.....
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I've read all your post, i understand ur situation.
I kinda lazy to post panjang lebar.. so

Just buy the biggest cage that you can afford to buy n can fit the largest space in the house.

I hv some rekemen on shopee, good price,
the litter box, to save $$$ dont buy the cat litter box, buy the plastic box tht looks like a litter box!! lol..

ok?no nid to ask 3 ask 4..
just do it.

take care of cat in cage is ez, u make sure cat is comfortable, means u nid to put soft matt etc , put toys etc etc, water all the time.
take cat out few times a day to jalan like a dog,
whenever u can afford the time..

u wana combine a few cage into one to save $$$ oso can

lagi apa mao cerita?
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My cat is infected with kutu...
Saw tiny worms crawling on my sofa.

So now i comb as much as i can to get rid the kutu.
Question is, my cat sleep here and there in house. I'm trying my best to identify the spot using roller dust to stick the kutu. If my cat is clean already, will it easily get infected if i didn't clean properly the house?
To totally terminate the kutu in house is like impossible mission. Scare the kutu drop here and there.

If i use mosquito spray to spray the area, will the kutu die?

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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Apr 15 2021, 11:33 PM)
My cat is infected with kutu...
Saw tiny worms crawling on my sofa.

So now i comb as much as i can to get rid the kutu.
Question is, my cat sleep here and there in house. I'm trying my best to identify the spot using roller dust to stick the kutu. If my cat is clean already, will it easily get infected if i didn't clean properly the house?
To totally terminate the kutu in house is like impossible mission. Scare the kutu drop here and there.

If i use mosquito spray to spray the area, will the kutu die?
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Yes, ur cat can get reinfected so u need to treat ur home as well if u think there 's flea infestation on the sofa/bedding, for small/focused areas like ur sofa u can use flea spray, if ur concern about bigger areas like the whole room u can use those room fogger available in shopee https://shopee.com.my/product/76013940/1319...23-1618529117.9 not sure how effective this is tho coz nvr had cat flea infestation at home before, all my cats I apply advocate antiflea/mites spot-on everymonth so they dont bring back fleas home coz one of my cats is an indoor/outdoor cat.
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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Apr 15 2021, 11:33 PM)
My cat is infected with kutu...
Saw tiny worms crawling on my sofa.

So now i comb as much as i can to get rid the kutu.
Question is, my cat sleep here and there in house. I'm trying my best to identify the spot using roller dust to stick the kutu. If my cat is clean already, will it easily get infected if i didn't clean properly the house?
To totally terminate the kutu in house is like impossible mission. Scare the kutu drop here and there.

If i use mosquito spray to spray the area, will the kutu die?
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Got 2 ways.
1. Spray with frontline once. Can last for weeks without reinfection, if your house plenty kutu. That spray rm80 can use multi times.
2. Put revelation. Can last 1 month per dose. Rm40 per dose.

Bring kutu cat to vet la. They will do either step for you. Then next time you know what to buy and can apply your own if you want jimat vet consultation
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kutu cat biggrin.gif tht sounds so funny, yup i dont think u can get rid of the fleas fully by just combing him, pity tht fella must be so itchy, if so severe it can go to the bloodstream n ur cat can get jaundice n die, my indoor outdoor cat had once but brought to vet luckily survived, after tht i apply the spot on everymonth nvr miss, now no more kutu even tho he plays outside everday thumbup.gif
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Hey guys,

What is your opinion about neutering your cat? I know many experts and people say to neuter is best, but it may also make your cat depressed. If you search up on this subject, it does seem like some cats do seem to get depressed....same like humans.

But cats have a strong urge to mate (especially most male cats), and I'm finding that the "community cat" I mentioned before earlier, is no longer keen to stay in the cage and really wants to get out....

He also doesn't want to stay at his usual home, and will wander off for days if allowed to escape. I'm afraid he may not want to return ever. As you know, we don't really own our cats....it's either they want to stay or not. laugh.gif

Once found, I notice he is marking new territory and sniffing the air......and being quite hostile with most other stranger cats. Getting into fights and trouble is exactly what we don't want!

So looks like cage life is not for him in the long run. I am considering to neuter him but I'm not sure if this is the best route.

But it seems like the only way. Otherwise, he is getting restless being in the cage now that he feels better after his long stint in the clinic.

According to the other "owners" that now care for him at their house, he was never like this and very homely. Now he seems intolerant of other cats (those people feed other cats too) and just seems like he wants to get away from them.

Any opinions? Will neutering him make him more homely, less restless, and more friendly with other cats. Mind you, he was quite alright with them BEFORE he went for his long stay at the clinic.

Now his former home is like a new environment to him (although he seems to recognize his former human care-givers).

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It depends, reduce the hormone yes,
but cat will still mark and hv the urge to go out roam + fight etc, esp older cats.
I've taken care of a cat like that, neuter at ~ 5yo.
Let him roam will return with bite wounds, if unlucky it will get sporo, tht time you will hv a bigger decision, treat or ? ??
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nice catio..
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Nice. Maybe I should reno like that as well. Then my cats can have a walk
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Hey guys,

What is your opinion about neutering your cat? I know many experts and people say to neuter is best, but it may also make your cat depressed. If you search up on this subject, it does seem like some cats do seem to get depressed....same like humans.

But cats have a strong urge to mate (especially most male cats), and I'm finding that the "community cat" I mentioned before earlier, is no longer keen to stay in the cage and really wants to get out....

He also doesn't want to stay at his usual home, and will wander off for days if allowed to escape. I'm afraid he may not want to return ever. As you know, we don't really own our cats....it's either they want to stay or not.  laugh.gif

Once found, I notice he is marking new territory and sniffing the air......and being quite hostile with most other stranger cats. Getting into fights and trouble is exactly what we don't want!

So looks like cage life is not for him in the long run. I am considering to neuter him but I'm not sure if this is the best route.

But it seems like the only way. Otherwise, he is getting restless being in the cage now that he feels better after his long stint in the clinic.

According to the other "owners" that now care for him at their house, he was never like this and very homely. Now he seems intolerant of other cats (those people feed other cats too) and just seems like he wants to get away from them.

Any opinions? Will neutering him make him more homely, less restless, and more friendly with other cats. Mind you, he was quite alright with them BEFORE he went for his long stay at the clinic.

Now his former home is like a new environment to him (although he seems to recognize his former human care-givers).
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i have a stray cat that likes to fight too. also thinking to neuter him but i don't think it will help based on internet research. reduce his strength maybe.
i also have 2 home cats used to fight each other. after neutered, still fight but use less strength.

personally, i won't neuter outside cat. cat outside and short life already pity, still take away their precious. let them have fun la and natural run it's course. there's cats outside my house fighting too, but can't do anything. it's natural behavior.

i did neuter my home cats that are not allowed to roam outside though. at first i don't. but see him also pity, cause everytime the urge, he will claw window want to get out and mate. after neuter no more already. i guess that's the cost to pay for being homey cat. comfortable /safe life but lose precious.

also cats need to be fully vaccinated before surgery/neuter. otherwise will kena parvo or other kind of virus that can lead to death. and if best, cat need to be tested on fcov before vaccinated. if a fcov positive cat get vaccinated or neutered, there's chance to trigger mutation to fip and kill the cat. mutation is due to stress.

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Yup my neutered cat always got bullied when he roams outside, so I dont think its a good idea coz it will 'soften' him, unless u want to neuter all other males in the area.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 21 2021, 10:36 PM)

i did neuter my home cats that are not allowed to roam outside though. at first i don't. but see him also pity, cause everytime the urge, he will claw window want to get out and mate. after neuter no more already. i guess that's the cost to pay for being homey cat. comfortable /safe life but lose precious.
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That sounds bad. cry.gif

So it's neuter and then straight to the cage forever, or else do not neuter and then let him roam and potentially have a short life....

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That sounds bad.  cry.gif

So it's neuter and then straight to the cage forever, or else do not neuter and then let him roam and potentially have a short life....
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Yup. But mine is house. Not cage. You can also walk your cat like dogs but i lazy cause i have too many

If you want keep inside house, there's no rush to neuter until you see symptoms that force you to neuter him.

For cats roaming outside, why itchy neuter him la. Like neome say, will reduce aggressive and kena bully. Worse if encounter snake dunno got power or not.

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Spay and neuter your animals please, including the "outside cats". Keeping intact animals indoors is going to cause you a lot of pain - female cats yowling and pissing everywhere, male cats constantly trying to escape and pissing everywhere too. As for outside cats, you are contributing to the already crazy populations of cats.

SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR ANIMALS. You also decrease fatal infections - female cats can get uterus infections and it can kill them.

Those of you talking about feeling sorry for your cat, you are projecting how you would feel if you got castrated onto the animal. Stop it. The animal doesn't know any better. The behavior change is expected because of the hormone change.

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 22 2021, 01:34 AM)
Spay and neuter your animals please, including the "outside cats". Keeping intact animals indoors is going to cause you a lot of pain - female cats yowling and pissing everywhere, male cats constantly trying to escape and pissing everywhere too. As for outside cats, you are contributing to the already crazy populations of cats.

SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR ANIMALS. You also decrease fatal infections - female cats can get uterus infections and it can kill them.

Those of you talking about feeling sorry for your cat, you are projecting how you would feel if you got castrated onto the animal. Stop it. The animal doesn't know any better. The behavior change is expected because of the hormone change.
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how do you so sure animal doesn't know. you are not animal.

and i don't buy the opinion of contributing to population of cats. textbook template answer in support neutering. it's like how about killing all humans that don't have food to eat cause they are are suffering and have too many population, might as well don't get born. or how about removing your testicle so that you can prevent prostate cancer? if this doesn't sound right for human, why it sounds right for animals?

anyway, everyone has their own opinion. no right/no wrong and even if there's right/wrong, it's hard to change people opinion.
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how do you so sure animal doesn't know. you are not animal.

and i don't buy the opinion of contributing to population of cats. textbook template answer in support neutering. it's like how about killing all humans that don't have food to eat cause they are are suffering and have too many population, might as well don't get born. or how about removing your testicle so that you can prevent prostate cancer? if this doesn't sound right for human, why it sounds right for animals?

anyway, everyone has their own opinion. no right/no wrong and even if there's right/wrong, it's hard to change people opinion.
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Even if you think I don't know, don't deny you are projecting what you feel onto the animal.

People who weren't born don't know to complain about it. Yes people do remove testicles to prevent prostate cancer depending on your risk. Your analogies are either extreme or don't make sense at all.

There is a right and a wrong. The issue of stray animals in Malaysia is the result of people being stubborn and stupid about this. Spay and neuter your animals.
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lol !

can debate til kingdom come.

for me, i believe in neutering+spaying, top priority,

if i catch d fler, will straight send for snip, male or female.
one of the way to reduce cat population.
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also cats need to be fully vaccinated before surgery/neuter. otherwise will kena parvo or other kind of virus that can lead to death. and if best, cat need to be tested on fcov before vaccinated. if a fcov positive cat get vaccinated or neutered, there's chance to trigger mutation to fip and kill the cat. mutation is due to stress.
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Can you elaborate on this? I never heard before that before neutering must also vaccinate them.....
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some vet who wants to follow the rules will insist on vac the cat first.

but for stray cat this is very difficult , cos they can get pregnant and might not able to catch the 2nd time.

so there are spay/neuter clinics that can straight do snip.
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Can you elaborate on this? I never heard before that before neutering must also vaccinate them.....
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If kitten and not vaccinated, they got chance kena parvo virus due to surgery. Vaccine prevent parvo virus. Parvo mostly kill. In this case vet usually won't do unless full vaccinated. 2-3 jab in 2-3 months.

Then another is feline corona virus. Easy kena but dormant in the body. Like covid la. But if cat stress will trigger mutation of this become fip. Fip also mostly will kill. Surgery cause cat to stress.

Of course alot cats go surgery without fcov knowledge. Can only say lucky. My vet told me there are case cat die while vaccinated due to that fip mutation also. Surgery lagi high chance la. Usually is not recommended if you quiz the vet. But if you no quiz, my vet also won't say her opinion, buat whatever client request.

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 22 2021, 02:27 PM)
Even if you think I don't know, don't deny you are projecting what you feel onto the animal.

People who weren't born don't know to complain about it. Yes people do remove testicles to prevent prostate cancer depending on your risk. Your analogies are either extreme or don't make sense at all.

There is a right and a wrong. The issue of stray animals in Malaysia is the result of people being stubborn and stupid about this. Spay and neuter your animals.
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I never deny I project human feel on animal. And I don't see any problem with it. If there's a separation of human vs animal thinking that we are more special one, that's why when ppl move house or situation when need to sacrifice human benefit, the pets are dumped. Because they are just animal.

Yeah ppl remove testicle after they know they have cancer. Not remove before cancer even happen! Duh.

I know I won't change your thinking. I post for others who are undecided to see. That's why I say no right or wrong. Each person entitled to their opinion. And I don't say ppl stubborn or stupid because it contradict with his opinion. Duh x2.


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 22 2021, 08:37 PM)
If kitten and not vaccinated, they got chance kena parvo virus due to surgery. Vaccine prevent parvo virus. Parvo mostly kill. In this case vet usually won't do unless full vaccinated. 2-3 jab in 2-3 months.

Then another is feline corona virus. Easy kena but dormant in the body. Like covid la. But if cat stress will trigger mutation of this become fip. Fip also mostly will kill. Surgery cause cat to stress.

Of course alot cats go surgery without fcov knowledge. Can only say lucky. My vet told me there are case cat die while vaccinated due to that fip mutation also. Surgery lagi high chance la. Usually is not recommended if you quiz the vet. But if you no quiz, my vet also won't say her opinion, buat whatever client request.
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I didn't know all this, and it sounds scary....

But you said kitten only, what about for adults?

I suspect my cat has either FIV or FLV, although it seems controlled now. Because cat is locked up in cage, so he doesn't wander here and there....

After locked up so long, he actually gained weight and seems quite healthy now.

But still want to go out of cage....

I'm willing to let him go out, but he may not come back, since he found his new found freedom.....

Already the last time, he seems chill not coming home and I don't know he got even eat or not.

There is the risk his earlier health issues will return.

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Anyone got experience using a pet tracker device?

I saw some for sale on Shopee but so cheap dunno how effective....maybe it is just a toy.....
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 23 2021, 01:05 AM)
I didn't know all this, and it sounds scary....

But you said kitten only, what about for adults?

I suspect my cat has either FIV or FLV, although it seems controlled now. Because cat is locked up in cage, so he doesn't wander here and there....

After locked up so long, he actually gained weight and seems quite healthy now.

But still want to go out of cage....

I'm willing to let him go out, but he may not come back, since he found his new found freedom.....

Already the last time, he seems chill not coming home and I don't know he got even eat or not.

There is the risk his earlier health issues will return.
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adult less chance kena parvo. parvo likes attack kitten (according to my vet). adult usually is fip mutation or other kind of virus. i have no knowledge on all this virus too until my cats kena. one really die of parvo due to surgery and unvaccinated. when i start to pay extra to do testing for stray cat before they mingle with my house cat, I get more knowledge as vet will explain to me once i test. otherwise, you go vet, you say vaccine, they do vaccine. you say neuter, they do neuter. they won't block you or raise concern.

fiv and fcov testing cost like rm180 for 2 test. easily more expensive than vaccine. vaccine only need rm40. neuter is rm 100.

i think you have to make decision to own the cat or let it move around as stray. i did both on outside cats. those i owned is fat and healthy, living forever in my house. outside cats, as mentioned only 3/11 remaining. in fact as of today 1/11 remaining. the other 2 went missing, but i guess they move to upper part of the road because there's a new cat come and eat at my porch.

you can't save them all. can only do whatever you can. if outside cat, have to be mentally tough that they will gone missing/dead any day. i experience that 8 times (6 of them are families, die/missing 1 by 1) in 1 year. yeah it's sad but you can't do anything unfortunately. if you don't want this sadness, either you don't care them at all, so you won't have emotional attachment, or you owned them.

since now you know the cat don't like the cage, if you want to own, have to think of way how to put in cage most of the time and give them free time roam with supervision lo. gps tracker if one of the option but no safe proof.

as for gps tracker. haven't used it. i tried put a collar on black cat last time, to tell neighbors that this cat has owner. but within a week, the collar gone missing. not sure is the cat take out or human take out. cause that cat also don't like the collar. now the cat is happily in my home with her 3 children (all neutered/spayed).


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 23 2021, 12:05 PM)
adult less chance kena parvo. parvo likes attack kitten (according to my vet). adult usually is fip mutation or other kind of virus. i have no knowledge on all this virus too until my cats kena. one really die of parvo due to surgery and unvaccinated. when i start to pay extra to do testing for stray cat before they mingle with my house cat, I get more knowledge as vet will explain to me once i test. otherwise, you go vet, you say vaccine, they do vaccine. you say neuter, they do neuter. they won't block you or raise concern.
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I have a outside cat which was a stray cat before. I tried to call gov vet first and asked for spray but they insisted must get vaccine first before spray. I think there is the SOP.
I had to turn to private vet to get the spray done coz it was very hard to catch the cat when it's still stray and high alert on human. If I can't get it done once, it'll lost trust on me and I might never able to catch it again.
After spray and the cat is now very close with me and healthy.

I'm getting same experience like you. The private vet here seem don't talk much with customer. I hope they can share and educate people a bit.
I actually learn more from those Taiwanese youtubers who have cats and they share a lot information.

Other than that, I think a lot of people here still lack of education about TNR for stray dogs and cats.
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Vaccination may be dangerous for cats who have FIV and/or FLV as their immune systems may be already compromised?

Vaccines introduce a mild form of the virus into the body right?

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Vaccination may be dangerous for cats who have FIV and/or FLV as their immune systems may be already compromised?

Vaccines introduce a mild form of the virus into the body right?
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Yes. That's why, if they have fiv or fcov. Better do nothing. Cause their immune system already not strong. Inject virus got chance worsen and die

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Vaccination may be dangerous for cats who have FIV and/or FLV as their immune systems may be already compromised?

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Vaccines introduce a dead form of the virus.
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Hi guys, what do u all think of this cat insurance? Is it worth it?
https://www.oyen.my/
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This highly depends on you and your financial situation. I personally think that if you are able to save money in an account specifically for vet expenses, then it's better than paying a premium to an insurance company that you MIGHT use.
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What about chemical castration for cats? Is it available in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 28 2021, 05:02 AM)
This highly depends on you and your financial situation. I personally think that if you are able to save money in an account specifically for vet expenses, then it's better than paying a premium to an insurance company that you MIGHT use.
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Im not too worried about my indoor cat though I was thinking to get for my indoor/outdoor cat that i can nvr make fully indoor. Hes been an indoor outdoor cat for 3 yrs now, the 1st yr or so was very difficult, he got sick very frequently and had to visit the vet almost every month and one visit I had to pay at least rm90. But now he's older he rarely gets sick, i guess his immune system is much stronger but I do worry if he gets an accident or injure himself while he's outside unsure.gif
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Good day guys, my cat seems have a 'coughing' issue lately and it happen more and more frequent... around 3-4 times per day.
It usually happen during her resting period.

Just went to vet and show this video to the docs and they said need to bring the cat for heart scan, since this age is around 9 years old, female.
3 weeks ago did bring this cat to do X-Ray scan & blood test. Both test result show the lung is normal and blood results also normal.

Would like to ask opinion here if anyone cat experience something similar ...




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Im not too worried about my indoor cat though I was thinking to get for my indoor/outdoor cat that i can nvr make fully indoor. Hes been an indoor outdoor cat for 3 yrs now, the 1st yr or so was very difficult, he got sick very frequently and had to visit the vet almost every month and one visit I had to pay at least rm90. But now he's older he rarely gets sick, i guess his immune system is much stronger but I do worry if he gets an accident or injure himself while he's outside  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(keewah @ Apr 29 2021, 05:38 PM)
Good day guys, my cat seems have a 'coughing' issue lately and it happen more and more frequent... around 3-4 times per day.
It usually happen during her resting period.

Just went to vet and show this video to the docs and they said need to bring the cat for heart scan, since this age is around 9 years old, female.
3 weeks ago did bring this cat to do X-Ray scan & blood test. Both test result show the lung is normal and blood results also normal.

Would like to ask opinion here if anyone cat experience something similar ...




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Maybe bring to another vet ask? I saw such coughing cat on one of my stray cat i feed on porch. Also old cat. Then getting thiner and thinner as time goes buy. When I thought bring him to vet, but I also dily daly, he went to hangout at another house in neighbourhood.

Then after a while missing liao. Dunno die or neighbour bring inside.

I thought the stray has virus? Cause the vaccine we normally give prevent parvo and flu/cough. Since he is stray, not vaccinated. Not sure about yours though. The coughing kinda similar.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 29 2021, 06:26 PM)
Maybe bring to another vet ask? I saw such coughing cat on one of my stray cat i feed on porch. Also old cat. Then getting thiner and thinner as time goes buy. When I thought bring him to vet, but I also dily daly, he went to hangout at another house in neighbourhood.

Then after a while missing liao. Dunno die or neighbour bring inside.

I thought the stray has virus? Cause the vaccine we normally give prevent parvo and flu/cough. Since he is stray, not vaccinated. Not sure about yours though. The coughing kinda similar.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Yup it is a stray cat that we keep since she still a 1/2 weeks kitten.
As far as I am aware, we did not administrated any vaccine to her since small.

Gotta bring her to see another vet for 2nd opinion this coming Saturday smile.gif
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Hi guys.. need some advice here.
At my working place got stray cat and her kitten. Two days ago the kitten front paw hancur kena langgar by car. I catch that kitten and bring it to animal medical centre where the doc clean the wound and bandage it. I leave the kitten warded there for one day observation.
This evening i bring the kitten back to my work place. The front paw still bandaged. I wish to release back the kitten to her mother. The question now is... should i open up the bandage or just leave it still.? As a stray kitten/cats i know the bandage will be soiled quickly. My intention is to open the bandage and let the kitten and her mother tended the wound naturally.
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depends on the extend of the injury,

when u say 'hancur' it sounds very serious,

any wound thts not fully healed , will risk infection.
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depends on the extend of the injury,

when u say 'hancur' it sounds very serious,

any wound thts not fully healed , will risk infection.
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Problem is i cannot take care of the kitten. Still waiting her stray mom to come and reunite with her kitten.
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hopefully you can con°t to keep an eye on the kitten..
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FIP & GS441524

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive...ir-cats/611341/

if you are lazy to read..
there is no cure for you...
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Dear Cat Dads & Moms,

I have something to share and i hope someone would be able to explain this. I am an experienced cat owners, but this issue never happened to me before, which makes me sad, angry & curious.

I have a cat, named Salem. He was 3 years old. I have him since he was born (i rescued a pregnant cat). He have 4 other siblings and all of them are vaccinated, spayed/neutered, eats super premium food & stays indoor all the time. Salem (including the mother and all of his siblings) were very active, very healthy & well-fed. Even when any of them shows any sign of illness like Flu, scratch wound etc i would directly brought them to Vet. Everything went good so far.

Until last week, i've noticed Salem starts limping on his right arm, thinking of that would be a minor injury, i observed for another 1 day. Day-2, the limping area starts swelling, also he starts losing fat/muscle mass around his cheek & chest, and his body was hot, then i brought him to Vet. I've explained everything to the doctor on how serious i think the condition of Salem, and the doctor be like "no need worry lah nothing serious, no wounds no fractures, maybe he just jump & landed wrongly", the doctor even said i should stop worrying & overreacting over a small issue. And the doctor only gave Anti-Inflammatory meds. JUST THAT, and the doctor not even allow me to buy the supplement/booster or applied anything on the limping areas, they just want me to trust them as they were the Doctors.

Fine with that, i gave Salem the med, of course.. no improvements. Salem starts getting worse, he starts avoiding everyone, and lying head down most of the time. Even when i carry him, or put him on the table, he will put his head down, and he lose appetite too (i have to manually feed him). Remember, this is just 3rd day of him being sick.

Day-4, i go to the Vet again and angrily explained of what have happened, they all were shocked & scared seeing the condition of my cat since it were just yesterday i came to the clinic, and the condition was rapidly worsen. Then they shaved Salem's limping arm, they seemingly found out something, starts discussing with each other with very worrying face. And they never really told me what happened, they just "we think this might be a bacterial infection, but we're not so sure since we cannot spotted any wound". They gave me Antibiotics (FINALLY eventho its too late), and they gave me a referral letter to Specialist Hospital saying that in-case of emergency (its like they know something but they never really told me, maybe they scared of me blaming them for not doing it right the first time). And they said its a really really rare case of a cat went from very healthy to seriously ill for just 3 days.

After went back from clinic, gave the meds, nothing good. And this time he walk around everywhere pointlessly. Several hours later, he went to kitty heaven. bye.gif All that happens so fast, from very healthy to getting sick for just 3 days & died the next day. And he is just 3 years old. sad.gif Yes i am angry with the doctors as they were not taking my point seriously, if they do, that would have saved Salem's life. But i am more of wanting to know what actually happened, what disease that can killed a healthy house cat in just 3 days.. If its a bacterial infections, how or where do he get such bacteria? Or he might allergic to something (since i changed the food recently)? Or any fatal insect bites that does not leave any wound (i live in a level 4 apartment btw)? Or any possible natural diseases like diabetes, nerves disorder or anything?

I need to know as i have to protect my other cats at all cost. sad.gif I hope anyone here can explain or share their experiences too. Thank you.
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Dear Cat Dads & Moms,

I have something to share and i hope someone would be able to explain this. I am an experienced cat owners, but this issue never happened to me before, which makes me sad, angry & curious.

I have a cat, named Salem. He was 3 years old. I have him since he was born (i rescued a pregnant cat). He have 4 other siblings and all of them are vaccinated, spayed/neutered, eats super premium food & stays indoor all the time. Salem (including the mother and all of his siblings) were very active, very healthy & well-fed. Even when any of them shows any sign of illness like Flu, scratch wound etc i would directly brought them to Vet. Everything went good so far.

Until last week, i've noticed Salem starts limping on his right arm, thinking of that would be a minor injury, i observed for another 1 day. Day-2, the limping area starts swelling, also he starts losing fat/muscle mass around his cheek & chest, and his body was hot, then i brought him to Vet. I've explained everything to the doctor on how serious i think the condition of Salem, and the doctor be like "no need worry lah nothing serious, no wounds no fractures, maybe he just jump & landed wrongly", the doctor even said i should stop worrying & overreacting over a small issue. And the doctor only gave Anti-Inflammatory meds. JUST THAT, and the doctor not even allow me to buy the supplement/booster or applied anything on the limping areas, they just want me to trust them as they were the Doctors.

Fine with that, i gave Salem the med, of course.. no improvements. Salem starts getting worse, he starts avoiding everyone, and lying head down most of the time. Even when i carry him, or put him on the table, he will put his head down, and he lose appetite too (i have to manually feed him). Remember, this is just 3rd day of him being sick.

Day-4, i go to the Vet again and angrily explained of what have happened, they all were shocked & scared seeing the condition of my cat since it were just yesterday i came to the clinic, and the condition was rapidly worsen. Then they shaved Salem's limping arm, they seemingly found out something, starts discussing with each other with very worrying face. And they never really told me what happened, they just "we think this might be a bacterial infection, but we're not so sure since we cannot spotted any wound". They gave me Antibiotics (FINALLY eventho its too late), and they gave me a referral letter to Specialist Hospital saying that in-case of emergency (its like they know something but they never really told me, maybe they scared of me blaming them for not doing it right the first time). And they said its a really really rare case of a cat went from very healthy to seriously ill for just 3 days.

After went back from clinic, gave the meds, nothing good. And this time he walk around everywhere pointlessly. Several hours later, he went to kitty heaven.  bye.gif  All that happens so fast, from very healthy to getting sick for just 3 days & died the next day. And he is just 3 years old.  sad.gif Yes i am angry with the doctors as they were not taking my point seriously, if they do, that would have saved Salem's life. But i am more of wanting to know what actually happened, what disease that can killed a healthy house cat in just 3 days.. If its a bacterial infections, how or where do he get such bacteria? Or he might allergic to something (since i changed the food recently)? Or any fatal insect bites that does not leave any wound (i live in a level 4 apartment btw)? Or any possible natural diseases like diabetes, nerves disorder or anything?

I need to know as i have to protect my other cats at all cost.  sad.gif  I hope anyone here can explain or share their experiences too. Thank you.
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So sorry for your loss sad.gif What was written on the referral letter to the specialist hospital? Maybe u can find some clue about the disease there.
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Thank you for sharing your story.
This is a lesson for all to learn.

Always get a satisfactory answer from your vet.
Insist it.

If they can't answer you, means, they are not sure.
Immediately seek second opinion until you are satisfied.

No time? Don't wana spend too much $$$?
Then this is the risk pet owner have to accept.

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For humans or for pet animals, always note all the symtoms that you can observe.

For your case, it can me many things.

It also could be FIP.
For fip, the cat can die very fast.
No appetite, lost weight, problem with movement, swelling,
multi cat house hold..

Learning by reading from RELIABLE sources is very important.

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QUOTE(WalidAnakBulus @ May 10 2021, 02:12 PM)
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Dear Cat Dads & Moms,

I have something to share and i hope someone would be able to explain this. I am an experienced cat owners, but this issue never happened to me before, which makes me sad, angry & curious.

I have a cat, named Salem. He was 3 years old. I have him since he was born (i rescued a pregnant cat). He have 4 other siblings and all of them are vaccinated, spayed/neutered, eats super premium food & stays indoor all the time. Salem (including the mother and all of his siblings) were very active, very healthy & well-fed. Even when any of them shows any sign of illness like Flu, scratch wound etc i would directly brought them to Vet. Everything went good so far.

Until last week, i've noticed Salem starts limping on his right arm, thinking of that would be a minor injury, i observed for another 1 day. Day-2, the limping area starts swelling, also he starts losing fat/muscle mass around his cheek & chest, and his body was hot, then i brought him to Vet. I've explained everything to the doctor on how serious i think the condition of Salem, and the doctor be like "no need worry lah nothing serious, no wounds no fractures, maybe he just jump & landed wrongly", the doctor even said i should stop worrying & overreacting over a small issue. And the doctor only gave Anti-Inflammatory meds. JUST THAT, and the doctor not even allow me to buy the supplement/booster or applied anything on the limping areas, they just want me to trust them as they were the Doctors.

Fine with that, i gave Salem the med, of course.. no improvements. Salem starts getting worse, he starts avoiding everyone, and lying head down most of the time. Even when i carry him, or put him on the table, he will put his head down, and he lose appetite too (i have to manually feed him). Remember, this is just 3rd day of him being sick.

Day-4, i go to the Vet again and angrily explained of what have happened, they all were shocked & scared seeing the condition of my cat since it were just yesterday i came to the clinic, and the condition was rapidly worsen. Then they shaved Salem's limping arm, they seemingly found out something, starts discussing with each other with very worrying face. And they never really told me what happened, they just "we think this might be a bacterial infection, but we're not so sure since we cannot spotted any wound". They gave me Antibiotics (FINALLY eventho its too late), and they gave me a referral letter to Specialist Hospital saying that in-case of emergency (its like they know something but they never really told me, maybe they scared of me blaming them for not doing it right the first time). And they said its a really really rare case of a cat went from very healthy to seriously ill for just 3 days.

After went back from clinic, gave the meds, nothing good. And this time he walk around everywhere pointlessly. Several hours later, he went to kitty heaven.  bye.gif  All that happens so fast, from very healthy to getting sick for just 3 days & died the next day. And he is just 3 years old.  sad.gif Yes i am angry with the doctors as they were not taking my point seriously, if they do, that would have saved Salem's life. But i am more of wanting to know what actually happened, what disease that can killed a healthy house cat in just 3 days.. If its a bacterial infections, how or where do he get such bacteria? Or he might allergic to something (since i changed the food recently)? Or any fatal insect bites that does not leave any wound (i live in a level 4 apartment btw)? Or any possible natural diseases like diabetes, nerves disorder or anything?

I need to know as i have to protect my other cats at all cost.  sad.gif  I hope anyone here can explain or share their experiences too. Thank you.
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Omg. 3 years old and suddenly gone. So scary. Sigh. The symptoms looks like fip. Lost of movement no eat and die very fast. When cats no eat, we as cat parent really worried sick. Usually it represent huge sickness. I had a parvo kitten die within 3 days too. And symptom start when no eat zzzz.

You can go test the remaining 2 cats for fcov antigen test. Fcov will mutate to fip but according to Internet stats, the mutation is low %. And fcov is easily infected if same household cats. If your 2 remaining cats no fcov, means Salem low chance die from fip. If they have fcov, means high chance fip?

I am surprised the vet no ask for virus test though.

Coincidentally basilisk post fip cure. Btw is this cure for real? Heard it's black market cure. Fb groups always see ppl asking donation. Dunno scam or real.

This post has been edited by IpohGuyz: May 13 2021, 05:40 PM
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Everything (almost) is explained in the article above.
All is real.

Chinese company claim to copied GS441524 formula.

And there are people here that promote it.
All drugs need gov approval, so it is illegal for sure.

It is expensive.
So they do crowdfunding.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 13 2021, 10:03 PM)
Everything (almost) is explained in the article above.
All is real.

Chinese company claim to copied GS441524 formula.

And there are people here that promote it.
All drugs need gov approval, so it is illegal for sure.

It is expensive.
So they do crowdfunding.
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Somehow months ago I also read a lot of this cure. Seems the cure is real. Problem is where to get it.

Fb group says https://www.basmifip.com/
Looks shady though the site. And tons of ppl doing crowd funding on basmifip until I can't differentiate it's real crowd funding or scam syndicate.
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Anyone with similar experience can give some advise?

I have 2 indoor cats in a condo and we will be moving to a landed property soon.

Can i have advise on:
a) the best method to help them get used to the new environment and settle in
b) if there's anyway to track them if they run out (or maybe train them to come back?)

I really dont want my cats to go missing :/
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make sure they can't go out of the house.


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QUOTE(Ech @ May 19 2021, 10:48 AM)
Anyone with similar experience can give some advise?

I have 2 indoor cats in a condo and we will be moving to a landed property soon.

Can i have advise on:
a) the best method to help them get used to the new environment and settle in
b) if there's anyway to track them if they run out (or maybe train them to come back?)

I really dont want my cats to go missing :/
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i've been there early of this year. From Apt to Landed.

surprisingly all of my cats (3) settled quite fast probably just 2 or 3 days. I moved all the things they have been using on the same day as well.

if your cats never a stray then dont let your cats out from home. Once missing probably cannot find back. Close all your windows/doors or you may install fence/nets.
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Thanks for those who answered back then. Now i know why you guys say cannot cage a cat for more than a few hours. lol.....mine will go crazy
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QUOTE(WalidAnakBulus @ May 10 2021, 02:12 PM)
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Dear Cat Dads & Moms,

I have something to share and i hope someone would be able to explain this. I am an experienced cat owners, but this issue never happened to me before, which makes me sad, angry & curious.

I have a cat, named Salem. He was 3 years old. I have him since he was born (i rescued a pregnant cat). He have 4 other siblings and all of them are vaccinated, spayed/neutered, eats super premium food & stays indoor all the time. Salem (including the mother and all of his siblings) were very active, very healthy & well-fed. Even when any of them shows any sign of illness like Flu, scratch wound etc i would directly brought them to Vet. Everything went good so far.

Until last week, i've noticed Salem starts limping on his right arm, thinking of that would be a minor injury, i observed for another 1 day. Day-2, the limping area starts swelling, also he starts losing fat/muscle mass around his cheek & chest, and his body was hot, then i brought him to Vet. I've explained everything to the doctor on how serious i think the condition of Salem, and the doctor be like "no need worry lah nothing serious, no wounds no fractures, maybe he just jump & landed wrongly", the doctor even said i should stop worrying & overreacting over a small issue. And the doctor only gave Anti-Inflammatory meds. JUST THAT, and the doctor not even allow me to buy the supplement/booster or applied anything on the limping areas, they just want me to trust them as they were the Doctors.

Fine with that, i gave Salem the med, of course.. no improvements. Salem starts getting worse, he starts avoiding everyone, and lying head down most of the time. Even when i carry him, or put him on the table, he will put his head down, and he lose appetite too (i have to manually feed him). Remember, this is just 3rd day of him being sick.

Day-4, i go to the Vet again and angrily explained of what have happened, they all were shocked & scared seeing the condition of my cat since it were just yesterday i came to the clinic, and the condition was rapidly worsen. Then they shaved Salem's limping arm, they seemingly found out something, starts discussing with each other with very worrying face. And they never really told me what happened, they just "we think this might be a bacterial infection, but we're not so sure since we cannot spotted any wound". They gave me Antibiotics (FINALLY eventho its too late), and they gave me a referral letter to Specialist Hospital saying that in-case of emergency (its like they know something but they never really told me, maybe they scared of me blaming them for not doing it right the first time). And they said its a really really rare case of a cat went from very healthy to seriously ill for just 3 days.

After went back from clinic, gave the meds, nothing good. And this time he walk around everywhere pointlessly. Several hours later, he went to kitty heaven.  bye.gif  All that happens so fast, from very healthy to getting sick for just 3 days & died the next day. And he is just 3 years old.  sad.gif Yes i am angry with the doctors as they were not taking my point seriously, if they do, that would have saved Salem's life. But i am more of wanting to know what actually happened, what disease that can killed a healthy house cat in just 3 days.. If its a bacterial infections, how or where do he get such bacteria? Or he might allergic to something (since i changed the food recently)? Or any fatal insect bites that does not leave any wound (i live in a level 4 apartment btw)? Or any possible natural diseases like diabetes, nerves disorder or anything?

I need to know as i have to protect my other cats at all cost.  sad.gif  I hope anyone here can explain or share their experiences too. Thank you.
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I think it's cultural. Malaysian tend to ask cheaper option or like "boleh kurang lagi x boss?". So it's become of habit for the seller not to promote or ask you to spend more money. Vet service is expensive though. So I think they tend to avoid asking the customer to spend more money for tests without having strong reason. Just doing physical check, they won't know the severity of the illness. The swelling could be nothing, so they thought. I don't know if they have enough equipment to test the fluid in the swelling if they want to.

I'm so sorry for your loss! I have loss cats before just under 24-48 hours, just like that without knowing what is the cause of their death.

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Hi all,

I have found these 5 kittens and I am in no capable to take care of them. Appreciate if anyone is interested could reach out to me. Thank you.

My location is PJ area.

Hope to hear from you guys soon
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I have found these 5 kittens and I am in no capable to take care of them. Appreciate if anyone is interested could reach out to me. Thank you.

My location is PJ area.

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So sweet and looks healthy
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QUOTE(JVLIEW @ Jun 6 2021, 08:34 PM)
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I have found these 5 kittens and I am in no capable to take care of them. Appreciate if anyone is interested could reach out to me. Thank you.

My location is PJ area.

Hope to hear from you guys soon
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wht happened?
these kitten still need the mom.
doesn't look like they can eat solid food.

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QUOTE(JVLIEW @ Jun 6 2021, 08:34 PM)
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I have found these 5 kittens and I am in no capable to take care of them. Appreciate if anyone is interested could reach out to me. Thank you.

My location is PJ area.

Hope to hear from you guys soon
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Please post this in Facebook as well. Message Malaysia Independent Animal Rescue or MIAR at Facebook. Provide them contact information.
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PSA: Don't just "rescue" kittens when you find them without the mother. The mother could have gone off to get food and come back to no babies.

Those kittens look a bit too young to be on their own. You need to find a shelter or take care of them ASAP.
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True. It always good idea to wait for a while.
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may i know why my female cat, 1.5 y.o (not neutered), starting to pee not at her litter box?

sometimes, on her bed, on certain clothes on the floor....


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maybe uti, it hurts when pee, so cat tot it is d box's fault, so try pee other places.
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QUOTE(leah235 @ Jun 16 2021, 09:24 AM)
may i know why my female cat, 1.5 y.o (not neutered), starting to pee not at her litter box?

sometimes, on her bed, on certain clothes on the floor....
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Female cat when on heat do spray urine like male cats do. Please neuter your cat.
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Female cat when on heat do spray urine like male cats do. Please neuter your cat.
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oh really??? ok i just know this...


hmm. how long does the recovery? 1 week?

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QUOTE(leah235 @ Jun 16 2021, 01:43 PM)
oh really??? ok i just know this...
hmm. how long does the recovery? 1 week?
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After neutered? Between one to two weeks.

Also, bring your cat to vet in case like Basilisk said, uti. If your cat trying to pee too frequent but nothing or too little come out, that uti. If UTI, need to go to vet ASAP.

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Is it safe to leave my cat indoors in my house? She doesn't like to be caged. She doesn't like to be kept in a room. I'm afraid she'll damage the furniture when I'm not around or I'm not supervising her. Kindly advise please thank you.

Also my cat once peed at the corner of my room. She's around 1.5 years old, not neutered yet. Kindly advise please thank you.

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QUOTE(latterbuoy @ Jun 22 2021, 02:57 AM)
Is it safe to leave my cat indoors in my house? She doesn't like to be caged. She doesn't like to be kept in a room. I'm afraid she'll damage the furniture when I'm not around or I'm not supervising her. Kindly advise please thank you.

Also my cat once peed at the corner of my room. She's around 1.5 years old, not neutered yet. Kindly advise please thank you.
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I don't cage my cats at all, and they are unsupervised when we leave. No damage.
The key to cats not destroying your furniture is to let them have their furniture. Put scratchpads next to the furniture you don't want her to scratch.
How many litterboxes does she have? Best is to have two.

If you are not comfortable leaving her alone unsupervised yet, then try leaving for short periods of time and then lengthening.

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do let us know the results.. (leaving d cat home alone)
every cat is kinda different..
really depends on luck...

i got one fler here..

to d fler..

a cage = cage
a room = cage
whole house (indoor) = cage
entire house (+ compound) = cage

lol..

tis fler kenot b satisfied unles u let him do what he wants..

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QUOTE(latterbuoy @ Jun 22 2021, 02:57 AM)
Is it safe to leave my cat indoors in my house? She doesn't like to be caged. She doesn't like to be kept in a room. I'm afraid she'll damage the furniture when I'm not around or I'm not supervising her. Kindly advise please thank you.

Also my cat once peed at the corner of my room. She's around 1.5 years old, not neutered yet. Kindly advise please thank you.
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It is better not caged. As pet owner, you shouldn't have fragile deco. biggrin.gif If you have fragile deco, you'll need to mentally prepared. biggrin.gif Try give your cat a lot of toys & also a scratch pad. Cats also have different personalities from one to another. Neutered cat generally more calmer than non-neutered. If you need to, cat-proof your house. Don't let your cat not neutered too long because peeing outside litterbox may become a habit to her. That is why it is advised to neutered your cat below 1 year old. This is why sometime you heard people complaining their cat still spraying after already neutered. This is because it already become a habit to the cat.
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QUOTE(latterbuoy @ Jun 22 2021, 02:57 AM)
Is it safe to leave my cat indoors in my house? She doesn't like to be caged. She doesn't like to be kept in a room. I'm afraid she'll damage the furniture when I'm not around or I'm not supervising her. Kindly advise please thank you.

Also my cat once peed at the corner of my room. She's around 1.5 years old, not neutered yet. Kindly advise please thank you.
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If this is the first time ur having cat indoors, google about catproofing your house. You will be surprised at how many simple things at home can be dangerous to your furry friend. U can also watch Jackson Galaxy's utube videos on how to prepare your home before having a cat. Yes and some cats can feel a house as a cage too esp adult cats which r used to living in the streets, they just wont live indoors 24/7 no matter how hard u try, my cat that I adopted frm the streets is the same, it will rebel and act out like spraying and peeing around the house if he is stress bcoz I dont let him out even though he is neutered. He just needs to spend some time outside at least a few hours a day, but i always make sure hes home every night, usually he wont go far and he will come back home easily if i call out his name laugh.gif hope my neighbours dont think i'm crazy calling out his name every afternoon/evening, well not everydy actually, sometimes he will come back on its own lol

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QUOTE(neome @ Jun 23 2021, 01:28 AM)
If this is the first time ur having cat indoors, google about catproofing your house. You will be surprised at how many simple things at home can be dangerous to your furry friend. U can also watch Jackson Galaxy's utube videos on how to prepare your home before having a cat. Yes and some cats can feel a house as a cage too esp adult cats which r used to living in the streets, they just wont live indoors 24/7 no matter how hard u try, my cat that I adopted frm the streets is the same, it will rebel and act out like spraying and peeing around the house if he is stress bcoz I dont let him out even though he is neutered. He just needs to spend some time outside at least a few hours a day, but i always make sure hes home every night, usually he wont go far and he will come back home easily if i call out his name  laugh.gif hope my neighbours dont think i'm crazy calling out his name every afternoon/evening, well not everydy actually, sometimes he will come back on its own lol
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Dear Neome, may i know what kind of litter box you using? Mind to share some of the best litter box for apartment use?
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Is it safe to leave my cat indoors in my house? She doesn't like to be caged. She doesn't like to be kept in a room. I'm afraid she'll damage the furniture when I'm not around or I'm not supervising her. Kindly advise please thank you.

Also my cat once peed at the corner of my room. She's around 1.5 years old, not neutered yet. Kindly advise please thank you.
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You just need to try. I have 6 cats free roaming for nearly 2 years d. Nothing is dmg except wallpaper cause they like to scratch. Yeah really nothing I can think of.

Those tv show vase broken this and that fake la. They even sleep in front of my TV or walk behind. Didn't push it down, finger crossed.

What you need to do is in fact precaution of their safety. Make sure there is 0 way they can get out of house. Any tiny opening they will squeeze through. Dun have plastic bag accessible. Some cat like to eat plastic. Knife keep at inaccessible place.

Edit: just thought, they dmg my cheap speaker lol. Chew off the wire. Feel funny than angry

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I use normal plastic litter box, I usually will pick the biggest one available so that less litter will be thrown around when they do their business, but bigger litter box means u have to buy more litter huhuu wether to pick the closed or open one is really depends on ur cat, some cats prefer the closed one some cat will feel trapped n prefer the open one smile.gif

QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 25 2021, 01:02 PM)
You just need to try. I have 6 cats free roaming for nearly 2 years d. Nothing is dmg except wallpaper cause they like to scratch. Yeah really nothing I can think of.

Those tv show vase broken this and that fake la. They even sleep in front of my TV or walk behind. Didn't push it down, finger crossed.

What you need to do is in fact precaution of their safety. Make sure there is 0 way they can get out of house. Any tiny opening they will squeeze through. Dun have plastic bag accessible. Some cat like to eat plastic. Knife keep at inaccessible place.

Edit: just thought, they dmg my cheap speaker lol. Chew off the wire. Feel funny than angry
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omg 1 of my cats really like to chew plastic n swallow like its some kind of a snack , then he will either vomit it out or expel it out thru the other end laugh.gif it really baffles me rclxub.gif what really attracted him to the plastic coz it literally tasteless and odourless to me not sure how it taste or smell to my cat tho laugh.gif
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QUOTE(neome @ Jun 25 2021, 07:09 PM)
I use normal plastic litter box, I usually will pick the biggest one available so that less litter will be thrown around when they do their business, but bigger litter box means u have to buy more litter huhuu wether to pick the closed or open one is really depends on ur cat, some cats prefer the closed one some cat will feel trapped n prefer the open one  smile.gif
omg 1 of my cats really like to chew plastic n swallow like its some kind of a snack , then he will either vomit it out or expel it out thru the other end  laugh.gif it really baffles me  rclxub.gif  what really attracted him to the plastic coz it literally tasteless and odourless to me not sure how it taste or smell to my cat tho  laugh.gif
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My cat that eat plastic got me worried. Didn't vomit out any. Not notice through the other end also. Other cats eat d will vomit out soon.

So can only hide those plastic bag but sometimes tapao d didnt clean fast enough, he eat again. Sigh
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 25 2021, 07:53 PM)
My cat that eat plastic got me worried. Didn't vomit out any. Not notice through the other end also. Other cats eat d will vomit out soon.

So can only hide those plastic bag but sometimes tapao d didnt clean fast enough, he eat again. Sigh
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ya2 i think the piece of plastic I found in the litter box is also from the vomit not the poo hmm.gif coz the color is much lighter huhu but luckily he nvr ate a whole plastic bag before, only small pieces of plastic he sometimes found on the floor of the kitchen, even the small raffia string tht ppl use to tie plastic bag also he ate n vomit once doh.gif but he is almost 1 year old now hope he grow out of the habit soon biggrin.gif

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ya2 i think the piece of plastic I found in the litter box is also from the vomit not the poo  hmm.gif coz the color is much lighter huhu but luckily he nvr ate a whole plastic bag before, only small pieces of plastic he sometimes found on the floor of the kitchen, even the small raffia string tht ppl use to tie plastic bag also he ate n vomit once  doh.gif but he is almost 1 year old now hope he grow out of the habit soon  biggrin.gif
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I always put away plastic bags. Be careful with strings. It can become tangle & block inside your cat & this can lead to death. It was long time ago, one time I saw something like string protruding from my cat anus. I carefully pull it out slowly. I didn't force it out. Fortunately it didn't stuck & easily came out.

If this ever happen to your cat, if it feels stuck, don't force it, just cut the string that are protruding & hope the rest come out by itself but probably very good idea to go to the vet ASAP.
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QUOTE(neome @ Jun 25 2021, 11:42 PM)
ya2 i think the piece of plastic I found in the litter box is also from the vomit not the poo  hmm.gif coz the color is much lighter huhu but luckily he nvr ate a whole plastic bag before, only small pieces of plastic he sometimes found on the floor of the kitchen, even the small raffia string tht ppl use to tie plastic bag also he ate n vomit once  doh.gif but he is almost 1 year old now hope he grow out of the habit soon  biggrin.gif
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My cat also no eat full plastic. Eat the plastic ear. But sikit sikit every once a while also harmful
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ping pong balls
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and the occasional cockroach or lizard (both never live to see the light of day)
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ping pong balls
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and the occasional cockroach or lizard (both never live to see the light of day)
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Hahaha, how you clean then after they kill roaches and lizard?
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Hahaha, how you clean then after they kill roaches and lizard?
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at least roaches will be torn to shreds
the lizards tho... once the body stop moving, they leave it there until i see ants marching puke.gif
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I move the toilet to downstair.
But my cat didn;t like to use it although many times i force my cat to enter.
3 weeks already my cat keep shitting at carpet.

why ah
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I move the toilet to downstair.
But my cat didn;t like to use it although many times i force my cat to enter.
3 weeks already my cat keep shitting at carpet.

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Some cats don't like change. Why moved may I ask?
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Some cats don't like change. Why moved may I ask?
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Last time i put in a room. Now the room need to convert.

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can't just move it like that though. gotta move it in small increments.
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Last time i put in a room. Now the room need to convert.
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If the carpet where your cat keep shitting located at different place than the toilet, try move the toilet near the carpet.
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My cats have grown up on a mix of wet and dry foods. Wet food prices been going up a lot for a decent brand. Costs a lot each month.

Any suggestions of wet cat food brands your cats enjoy that are not too expensive?
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QUOTE(yashin @ Jul 17 2021, 11:54 AM)
My cats have grown up on a mix of wet and dry foods. Wet food prices been going up a lot for a decent brand. Costs a lot each month.

Any suggestions of wet cat food brands your cats enjoy that are not too expensive?
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wht is your budget?

expensive doesn't mean all cat will like it..

which brand that you normally feed / have bought ?

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wet food like this monge, thai made no jelly, real meat, to save $$ u might as well buy real chicken + boil it yourself, portion it and freeze it...

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expensive ones like tis zealander?
all blend up pate.. ewww... i look oso rasa tak sedap dimakan...

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another one.. usa mali.. pate.. yuck feel...

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QUOTE(yashin @ Jul 17 2021, 11:54 AM)
My cats have grown up on a mix of wet and dry foods. Wet food prices been going up a lot for a decent brand. Costs a lot each month.

Any suggestions of wet cat food brands your cats enjoy that are not too expensive?
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Imported food have been going up & up a lot. They take advantage of our weak currency & some also take advantage to fill their belly.

I don't know any local brand that is good. You could try homemade recipe. All meat recipe may cost more depending on how many cats you have. There are other recipes that contain a lot of fillers but use chicken liver+heart & any meat to cover protein & vitamins. This is cheaper I think.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 17 2021, 01:33 PM)
Imported food have been going up & up a lot. They take advantage of our weak currency & some also take advantage to fill their belly.

I don't know any local brand that is good. You could try homemade  recipe. All meat recipe may cost more depending on how many cats you have. There are other recipes that contain a lot of fillers but use chicken liver+heart & any meat to cover protein & vitamins. This is cheaper I think.
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Unless these home made can apply the manufacturer's HACCP + guaranteed Analysis under ISO. I wouldn't mind buying them

Many gimmicks homemade are exploiting these so-called "natural cooking" methods. it is a ticking time bomb DVS will crack them down.

I did buy homemade before, but when I asked them, they can't even produce a standardized feeding nutrition value, meaning each cooking portion will have a different % of protein, fats and fibre. And each cooking will have different Vitamins. Which is dangerous for pets, because they can't speak if any health symptoms occur.

So before you talking about weak currency and conspiracy. it is very rare to find a Malaysian Manufacturer who could produce high-quality kibbles because the ISO and HACCP are so difficult to get and very tedious.

Research:
“Avoidance of conventional pet foods in favour of (home-made) and (raw food products) may put the health of dogs and cats at risk, ” warn the researchers, citing published analyses indicating insufficient levels of nutrients or imbalances in these diets and associated health conditions."
https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/living...r-dogs-and-cats

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lol ..

the star article above..

i say is paid by pet food manufacturers..

i tak caya a bit.

commercial pet food.. = invented by human
what year u can google..

before that.. dog n cats eat what...?? huh..
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QUOTE(Kelly_Sim @ Jul 17 2021, 01:48 PM)
Unless these home made can apply the manufacturer's HACCP + guaranteed Analysis under ISO. I wouldn't mind buying them

Many gimmicks homemade are exploiting these so-called "natural cooking" methods. it is a ticking time bomb DVS will crack them down.

I did buy homemade before, but when I asked them, they can't even produce a standardized feeding nutrition value, meaning each cooking portion will have a different % of protein, fats and fibre. And each cooking will have different Vitamins. Which is dangerous for pets, because they can't speak if any health symptoms occur.

So before you talking about weak currency and conspiracy. it is very rare to find a Malaysian Manufacturer who could produce high-quality kibbles because the ISO and HACCP are so difficult to get and very tedious.

Research:
“Avoidance of conventional pet foods in favour of (home-made) and (raw food products) may put the health of dogs and cats at risk, ” warn the researchers, citing published analyses indicating insufficient levels of nutrients or imbalances in these diets and associated health conditions."
https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/living...r-dogs-and-cats

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Homemade recipes as in make yourself food for cats. Buy ingredients one by one & make it yourself.

There are so many people feed their cats with homemade cat food (make yourself) & raw meat without any problem. Be careful with articles you read because there are so many articles or websites that was setup by pet food company.


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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jul 17 2021, 02:59 PM)
lol ..

the star article above..

i say is paid by pet food manufacturers..

i tak caya a bit.

commercial pet food..  = invented by human
what year u can google..

before that.. dog n cats eat what...?? huh..
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indirectly saying Veterinarian invented food are shits? hmm.gif

so if your cat has loose stool or gastro problem, eat homemade made medicine?


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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jul 19 2021, 10:37 PM)
indirectly saying Veterinarian invented food are shits?  hmm.gif

so if your cat has loose stool or gastro problem, eat homemade made medicine?
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we are talking bout commercial pet food here , not medicine..

the first commercial pet food recorded wasn't invented by vets.

https://www.petfoodinstitute.org/pet-food-m...ry-of-pet-food/

even today the so called vet approved food like rc, sains diet..

are.. full of by products of raw material used for human food processing..
nestle bought pet food manufacturers etc etc etc..

no nid to talk panjang lebar here,

u feed wht u like, its your $$ it's ur choice..

debate oso no use...

i just said i don't blif tht article..

not saying i dont blif in medicine.. lol..

just to make things even clearer,

dont blif tht article, never said i don't ever feed commercial pet food to the cats ...

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Vets will advise against feeding your animals homemade stuff if you aren't doing the full research. Raw feeding is a thing, homemade feeding is a thing, but it absolutely comes with risks - if you don't know 1000% what tf you're doing, you are going to end up causing the animal's suffering. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the article as "sponsored by the pet food industry".

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to me it is.

the so called "unconventional" feeding is wht dogs and cats have been eating for donkey of years before the so called 'conventional' food was invented by by human for dog & n cats.


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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jul 21 2021, 11:18 AM)
to me it is.

the so called "unconventional" feeding is wht dogs and cats have been eating for donkey of years before the so called 'conventional' food was invented by by human for dog & n cats.
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Vets also invent dog and cat foods. Some then how?

Vets are also a human beings who dedicate their lives and skills for better animal health.

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how?

read up. do your own research n decide.

if still cant decide , not sure, ragu ragu, jz do the conventional way.

say i wana spay a cat, will i diy? will i blif someone tht can do it but not a qualified/certified vet?

No, absolutely not.

but feeding, food prep, this topic is totally different..
it is totally diy-able..

read read read n know where n who to blif...


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indirectly saying Veterinarian invented food are shits?  hmm.gif

so if your cat has loose stool or gastro problem, eat homemade made medicine?
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lol you miss the point.

As long as the food is nutritious to the pet & prepared properly, it is good food regardless it was homemade or commercial. What we don't agree is that article, directly saying homemade & raw food are bad. I think it is good idea to not read between the lines but read what explicitly stated.

Cats & dogs have live for thousand of years with homemade food. Back then there is no ISO or regulation. If we want to use the same logic that article use, commercial food is equally poses some risks too. Even pet food company outside Malaysia have recall their pet foods before because of some problem.

I don't know about veterinarian invented food but I guess some commercial pet food started with someone in veterinary field created special food for pets. But I think the ingredients have changed in modern commercial food. Right now, any pet food recommended by vet, they get paid for that. Private clinic is expensive, machines are expensive, so any sponsorship would be beneficial to them.
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lol you miss the point.

As long as the food is nutritious to the pet & prepared properly, it is good food regardless it was homemade or commercial. What we don't agree is that article, directly saying homemade & raw food are bad. I think it is good idea to not read between the lines but read what explicitly stated.

Cats & dogs have live for thousand of years with homemade food. Back then there is no ISO or regulation. If we want to use the same logic that article use, commercial food is equally poses some risks too. Even pet food company outside Malaysia have recall their pet foods before because of some problem.

I don't know about veterinarian invented food but I guess some commercial pet food started with someone in veterinary field created special food for pets. But I think the ingredients have changed in modern commercial food. Right now, any pet food recommended by vet, they get paid for that. Private clinic is expensive, machines are expensive, so any sponsorship would be beneficial to them.
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that's how they need to fund their research. to improve. cool2.gif Just like Clinic, more money to invest in new equipment for sick patients. Reasonable.

I am not going back to homemade because 5 years ago, my mom's dog suffers from anemia. Yeah, we were homemade food believers before.
When Vet asked us, we can't even give answers like how many portions of protein vitamins are given per day. which resulted in that disease. When I asked the homemade pet food company, they couldn't give the answers. Just based on average standard nutrients from each ingredient for example 500g of chicken = to % of protein, but when cooked the nutrients are lost in the heat process and they can't determine it. Anemia requires vitamin C in the process, but the recipe cannot provide the numbers and amount of Vit C available, and the company did not go through food tests and safety.

So my mom immediately also got her cat along for a full body check, and finally decided to switch it back to commercial foods.


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ok i am really interested in the brand of commercial food you are feeding now, mind to share?

please .. lol..

if u see my previous posts i have bought many commercial food available for self evaluation.
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No one force you to use homemade food. It is free country, almost.

And who buy homemade food? If that "homemade" food was prepared by a company & was sold as their product, that is commercial pet food.

"Homemade" food is food that you cook or prepared yourself. Everything is under your control; buy/prepared the ingredients yourself, you cook it yourself, you refrigerated it yourself, etc. Microwave oven nowadays very cheap. Easy to handle frozen raw meat without contaminated it.

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there are many causes of anemia

https://www.lakecross.com/site/blog-hunters...ent-anemia-dogs

and if you say aft you switch to commercial food, the dog is not anemic anymore...
sounds like magic?

you feed plain white rice to the dog everyday?
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jul 22 2021, 03:08 AM)
there are many causes of anemia

https://www.lakecross.com/site/blog-hunters...ent-anemia-dogs

and if you say aft you switch to commercial food, the dog is not anemic anymore...
sounds like magic?

you feed plain white rice to the dog everyday?
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is true. after switching to commercial food, the vet gave some tablets and supplements for few weeks

Now he lives happily ever after, 2 years of health check get a good result.

Suggestion as TS said, if u do not know 1000% about homemade, dont do it.
Unless u are anti-vax cool2.gif

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yea right.. nice story..

no further detail info that can caya..

if u rc distributor.. try to lower price..

ppl switching to other better food alread..

LOL!! i ketawa kuat kuat
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anti-vax? lol that most stupid thing I have ever heard. I feed my cats both commercial & homemade food.

I have to agree that if you don't know 1000% what you're doing, don't do it. For example someone who buying "homemade" pet food, clearly did not do any research at all.

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Just adopted 2 4 month old kittens. Can recommend some budget friendly kibbles that are good in terms of nutrition? Currently I only know Whiskas.

I'm feeding them Purina One kibble at the moment a bit pricy.
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QUOTE(Adrian_Alastair @ Jul 23 2021, 02:10 PM)
Just adopted 2 4 month old kittens. Can recommend some budget friendly kibbles that are good in terms of nutrition? Currently I only know Whiskas.

I'm feeding them Purina One kibble at the moment a bit pricy.
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If Purina One is pricey, I think Greens a bit cheaper. There's another brand called Morando. It have same protein & fat content with Greens. I'm feeding this one to my cat. Her poops are nice. That's all I can say. biggrin.gif
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Hi Admin could you pin on top cat food recommendation? that would be helpful reference.
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Sure. Do you have a list? I'm not local so I don't know what is available locally.

I would also like to point out that the best food for your cat is the food it will eat.
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One way they make more money ,
the smaller bag is always more expensive than large bag, lol..

cos many will jz buy smaller bag..
cos it is easy for the human to handle..
and many can afford it.

those that seriously wana save $$ will know how to handle large bag, like 8kg - 10kg, even tho they only feed one cat..

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Unfortunately some customer get mad when there's no repack. Favourite excuse is "I only have one cat".

Also the supplier control the price even the repack one. I mean supplier dictate the minimum price for repack. For example, if there is a shop sell 1kg repack way cheaper than the other shops, if other shops complaint to the supplier, that shop can get red flagged. Next time when that shop tried to order more, the supplier will refused to send to that shop. I was told this practice is to defeat money laundering. Some people open shop just to "clean" the money, so they don't really think about profit. I tried to research if this have anything to do with latest law that was introduced not long time ago but all I got is headache. lol Another reason is that supplier want all shops can sell their products. Not fair for other shops if one shop can sell way cheaper than others. All shops will follow supplier anyway. If some products they can't sell or near expiration date, they can send back to the supplier. This way shop don't loose money. If you see products in Shoppe or Lazada that are way cheaper than physicals shop, that usually because the seller bought in large quantity & they cannot send back if they cannot sell (or near expiration date).

As for recommendation, I did read before, a good cat food have content of animal protein above 40%. So the list of top recommendation cat food in Malaysia will be short.

Top Recommendation Cat Food in Malaysia:-
Taste of the Wild

There are other brands that contain protein above 40% but I only remember TOTW. Usual problem is availability. Not all shop sell these brands though.

Popular Brands (protein around 30%):-
Royal Canine
Purina One
Greens
IAMS

New kid on the block (protein around 30%):-
Tornado (priced slightly higher than Greens but I'm a bit skeptical with this brand though. I was told this is to fight Royal Canine.)
Morando (not really new. The "parent" brand is Migliorgatto whish is not new brand as far as I know.)

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supplier control price,
yes i do believe that ,
so i kinda like to support distributors that let dealer sell cheap, or like you say, cos they kenot return so hv to sell cheaper.
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I'm using Cindy & Friends tofu litter for both my cats. Do you guys top up the litter weekly? Understand that for clumping litter we need to throw out the whole litter and clean the litter box every 3 weeks?
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I top up everyday, after throwing the poop (flushed in the toilet) & the clumped litter. I don't throw away clean litter & I don't clean litter box every 3 weeks.
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I'm so sorry to hear that. Difficulty breathing sound very serious. Unless vet can do something like surgery, it doesn't look promising. I pray & hope your cat survive this.
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so i adopted 3 cats, the previous owner says she fed them Royal Canin Hair and skin.
the first 5 days i fed them with cheap normal as RC H&S no stock.
then since 3 days ago i fed them RC H&S, and i begin to notice they vomit ( can see RC H&S kibble from vomited matter)
The first 5 days they finished 3 bowls of kibble per day, now only half bowl of RC H&S kibble. sad.gif


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QUOTE(peachpeach @ Aug 6 2021, 02:42 PM)
Hi all this stray mama cat came to me one month ago and she gave birth to 3 kittens days ago ! Just curious can anyone tell her breed ?

She has short tail and with characteristics similar to Japanese bobtail. But also looks like common mix tabby ???

However her kittens are all long tails ! One even with bent tail 😅 plan to put them for adoption soon.

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I guess is just domestic 😁
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I top up everyday, after throwing the poop (flushed in the toilet) & the clumped litter. I don't throw away clean litter & I don't clean litter box every 3 weeks.
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how about Everclean litter? Anyone can feedback on this brand please? Currently using Tofu but planning to move Pine/ever clean
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QUOTE(Adrian_Alastair @ Aug 2 2021, 06:32 PM)
I'm using Cindy & Friends tofu litter for both my cats. Do you guys top up the litter weekly? Understand that for clumping litter we need to throw out the whole litter and clean the litter box every 3 weeks?
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if you can afford. yes can do it.
lessen chance of more germs growing.

another way is to put minimum litter, so the amount you throw is less.
remove shit + pee right after they poo, to reduce germs etc.
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QUOTE(laucn @ Aug 6 2021, 01:29 PM)
so i adopted 3 cats, the previous owner says she fed them Royal Canin Hair and skin.
the first 5 days i fed them with cheap normal as RC H&S no stock.
then since 3 days ago i fed them RC H&S, and i begin to notice they vomit ( can see RC  H&S kibble from vomited matter)
The first 5 days they finished 3 bowls of kibble per day, now only half bowl of RC H&S kibble. sad.gif
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vomit maybe ate too much.
dont free feed.

a 4kg indoor cat can maintain well with just 40-50g of dry food per Day!

all depends on how the human control their intake.

most just like to free feed..
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QUOTE(peachpeach @ Aug 6 2021, 02:42 PM)

However her kittens are all long tails ! One even with bent tail 😅 plan to put them for adoption soon.
hope u can collect $$$ to spay the mom n all kittens before put for adoption.

i know where to spay for rm90 in kl.

some crazy ppl take kitten feed their snake,
or let the cat breed to feed snake...
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how about Everclean litter? Anyone can feedback on this brand please? Currently using Tofu but planning to move Pine/ever clean
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y from tofu to everclean?

i don't hv chance to test everclean to c why it is so expensive.

if you can afford everclean,
i rekmen you use try this.
i don't think other litter can beat this brand in terms of
Low! dust amount.

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 7 2021, 01:27 PM)
hope u can collect $$$ to spay the mom n all kittens before put for adoption.

i know where to spay for rm90 in kl.

some crazy ppl take kitten feed their snake,
or let the cat breed to feed snake...
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Im in Putra Heights area sad.gif The nearby vet quote me Rm200 for the mom alone 😭 Doubt can travel to kl any soon now.

😱😨 wth... Thanks for the tips. Will do a proper screening for their forever home. Is petfinder a good place to start?

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yes tht's expensive, u need to ask for discount for stray cat, or find vet tht can giv discount for stray cat.
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QUOTE(peachpeach @ Aug 8 2021, 07:29 AM)
Im in Putra Heights area sad.gif The nearby vet quote me Rm200 for the mom alone 😭 Doubt can travel to kl any soon now.

😱😨 wth... Thanks for the tips. Will do a proper screening for their forever home. Is petfinder a good place to start?
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Is that including vaccine? My nearby clinic's price is RM40 for vaccine and RM140 for spay. Still cheaper than yours. Of course can only spay a week after taking vaccine
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rm140 onwards in normal for spaying females.

the mother will in heat again very fast, bout 3mths after giving birth will in heat again.

putra heights can try this clinic, they only do cats.

AZ Animal Clinic & Pet Hotel
03-5567 9735
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4JMfV7eh1wuAUNer9


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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 8 2021, 09:48 PM)
rm140 onwards in normal for spaying females.

the mother will in heat again very fast, bout 3mths after giving birth will in heat again.

putra heights can try this clinic, they only do cats.

AZ Animal Clinic & Pet Hotel
03-5567 9735
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4JMfV7eh1wuAUNer9
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Thanks Miss comet and Basilisk ! Looks like they have adoption and spay program too Will call them later 🤗 Thanks alot !!

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 7 2021, 01:29 PM)
y from tofu to everclean?

i don't hv chance to test everclean to c why it is so expensive.

if you can afford everclean,
i rekmen you use try this.
i don't think other litter can beat this brand in terms of
Low! dust amount.

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Because my bloody cat playing with the litter and paw it everywhere. They got like 8 toys from big to small they dont like but prefer to play with cheapo like paper ball, plastic bag, handle of the wand toy, litter and clump litter rolleyes.gif

So i buy ever clean, nothing for them to play and also can keep their paw dry? Now my floor all paw print

But i still using clump wood litter flushable, 1 litter box everclean one natural wood

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they can still play wit their shit if they wan..

the less dust the litter, the less messy it is.

sand like clay litter tracks a lot, got those mat la wht la.

no 100% perfect solution.

for me i make sure d cat shit + pee in the cage, then only let out. n they don't get to touch litter until the next peepoo session.


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QUOTE(laucn @ Aug 6 2021, 01:29 PM)
so i adopted 3 cats, the previous owner says she fed them Royal Canin Hair and skin.
the first 5 days i fed them with cheap normal as RC H&S no stock.
then since 3 days ago i fed them RC H&S, and i begin to notice they vomit ( can see RC  H&S kibble from vomited matter)
The first 5 days they finished 3 bowls of kibble per day, now only half bowl of RC H&S kibble. sad.gif
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Sudden change & eat a lot in short span, can cause vomit too. RC is tasty. I have not found any cats that don't like RC. Cats when they get to eat tasty food, they'll eat too fast. Try reduce the portion. Try half portion for every meal.

QUOTE(gunpla student @ Aug 6 2021, 04:23 PM)
how about Everclean litter? Anyone can feedback on this brand please? Currently using Tofu but planning to move Pine/ever clean
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I have not try that. All litter in nearby shop are all made in china or local. No famous brands available. I use clumping sand litter & pine wood litter. For clumping sand litter, brand that I use varied because during covid imported stuff can stuck at custom. So I just buy any 10L bag that available.

QUOTE(peachpeach @ Aug 8 2021, 07:29 AM)
Im in Putra Heights area sad.gif The nearby vet quote me Rm200 for the mom alone 😭 Doubt can travel to kl any soon now.

😱😨 wth... Thanks for the tips. Will do a proper screening for their forever home. Is petfinder a good place to start?
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You can try ask permission from police. Or you can try gov veterinary clinic. Gov one very affordable.

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QUOTE(laucn @ Aug 6 2021, 01:29 PM)
so i adopted 3 cats, the previous owner says she fed them Royal Canin Hair and skin.
the first 5 days i fed them with cheap normal as RC H&S no stock.
then since 3 days ago i fed them RC H&S, and i begin to notice they vomit ( can see RC  H&S kibble from vomited matter)
The first 5 days they finished 3 bowls of kibble per day, now only half bowl of RC H&S kibble. sad.gif
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Cats do not do well with sudden changes. If you want to change the food, you have to do it gradually.
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Can i see some good recommendation for litter box? My current one too big need a lot of litter to fill up sad.gif
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depends on your cat, if you only hv one, u can push the litter to one side n leave half to 1/3 empty.

some cat likes to make a mess, some very good will oni shit on the litter side.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 11 2021, 04:40 PM)
depends on your cat, if you only hv one, u can push the litter to one side n leave half to 1/3 empty.

some cat likes to make a mess, some very good will oni shit on the litter side.
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I have 2, and one of them like to dig to the base of the box and shit on the no litter spot drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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oh this type i know..
then u no choice need to put thick layer of litter.
u can buy those cheap plastic square box, less than rm10..

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box like these are much cheaper than those label as cat litter box, these oso much thicker..:

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Any of your cats facing this issue. One of my almost 5 month old kitten, already litter box trained, but few times a week it will accidentally step on its own poo when trying to burry it.

The poo isn't too hard or soft. I feed them grain free kibble and wet food 3-4 meals per week.

Will they learn to out grow this? I'm currently using tofu litter with open large liter box (56cm in length). The litter box is as clean as it can be because I scoop 4-5 times a day (right after they pee and poo).



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step on poo, yes occasionally and rarely..
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some of d stuffs d flers been eating since last year..

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Hi all - if the cat is loving their dry kibbles - is it not recommended to change at all when the pack is finished?

Currently feeding Acana Wild Prairie.
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Hi all - if the cat is loving their dry kibbles - is it not recommended to change at all when the pack is finished?

Currently feeding Acana Wild Prairie.
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acana suppose to be good, why wana change?

downgrade?
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acana suppose to be good, why wana change?

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Not necc downgrade, just wanna try around before locking down "this is the food".

Like now I see firstmate / cindy's recipe / TOTW all like not bad ... so do have a bit of urge to let the cat try.
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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Sep 6 2021, 10:04 AM)
Not necc downgrade, just wanna try around before locking down "this is the food".

Like now I see firstmate / cindy's recipe / TOTW all like not bad ... so do have a bit of urge to let the cat try.
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if i can afford i will go for acana all the way, got new flavour oredi, so can tukar tukar often.

first mate i got bli, i think pricey compare to the ingredient they put in, i consider it good, but not worth the price.

cindy- din buy, i say it's oem food.

totw- cheap consider it is grain free, made in usa direct import., but animal protein is not enuff. aroma not good enuff.

so i vote for acana- yes expensive...

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 6 2021, 12:18 PM)
if i can afford i will go for acana all the way, got new flavour oredi, so can tukar tukar often.

first mate i got bli, i think pricey compare to the ingredient they put in, i consider it good, but not worth the price.

cindy- din buy, i say it's oem food.

totw- cheap consider it is grain free, made in usa direct import., but animal protein is not enuff. aroma not good enuff.

so i vote for acana- yes expensive...
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Haha yes - acana I plan to alternate wild prairies and Pacifica. Thanks so much for your sharing.

Also want to ask - anyone notice the area above cats eye is a bit thinner? How do we try to grow out the hair a bit more?
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yes tht area is liddat, not sure why...
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These carnilove wet food 'in gravy'
not worth buying, a lot gravy, the solids are processed meat - 71% chicken 14% trout.
Made in Czech not thai.

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 6 2021, 12:18 PM)
if i can afford i will go for acana all the way, got new flavour oredi, so can tukar tukar often.

first mate i got bli, i think pricey compare to the ingredient they put in, i consider it good, but not worth the price.

cindy- din buy, i say it's oem food.

totw- cheap consider it is grain free, made in usa direct import., but animal protein is not enuff. aroma not good enuff.

so i vote for acana- yes expensive...
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ACANA have how much protein?

FYI, we didn't get TOTW directly imported from US. We got the supply from Singapore. If directly, maybe the price can lower more but depend on if somebody decided to "fill his belly" first, then the price will still expensive.
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Guys, need advice..

My local seller currently dunno when will restock TOTW Canyon River, wanna buy online but scared delivery too late.

Current option, Dormeos, Blackwood, Reflex Plus, Happy Cat. Because all within price range.

Which one would you recommend?
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IMO, you can't go wrong with blackwood.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Sep 7 2021, 11:46 AM)
ACANA have how much protein?

FYI, we didn't get TOTW directly imported from US. We got the supply from Singapore. If directly, maybe the price can lower more but depend on if somebody decided to "fill his belly" first, then the price will still expensive.
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QUOTE(holocauster @ Sep 8 2021, 02:02 AM)
Guys, need advice..

My local seller currently dunno when will restock TOTW Canyon River, wanna buy online but scared delivery too late.

Current option, Dormeos, Blackwood, Reflex Plus, Happy Cat. Because all within price range.

Which one would you recommend?
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if you buy frm shopee, if the shop use jnt, very fast you will get.

prob is wht if your cat doesnt wana eat the diff brand?
so buy a small pack.
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looks like totw now naik harga d, long time i din check, 7kg canyon river , rocky mountain is 145 onwards.
a year ago i get ~12x or less ...
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IMO, you can't go wrong with blackwood.
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with Blackwood as well.

QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 9 2021, 11:34 AM)
if you buy frm shopee, if the shop use jnt, very fast you will get.

prob is wht if your cat doesnt wana eat the diff brand?
so buy a small pack.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 9 2021, 11:56 AM)
looks like totw now naik harga d, long time i din check, 7kg canyon river , rocky mountain is 145 onwards.
a year ago i get ~12x or less ...
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Ya boss. Not totally about the delivery slow/fast. Might need to change for good. The price is bit out of range now. sweat.gif
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hi all,

i do not own any cats before.
thinking of it.

however I live in an apartment on the 11th floor.

how to cat proof the balcony so that they won't go superman? without drilling can ?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 17 2021, 03:11 PM)
hi all,

i do not own any cats before.
thinking of it.

however I live in an apartment on the 11th floor.

how to cat proof the balcony so that they won't go superman? without drilling can ?
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Hey if you are interested to adopt than shop, do drop me a pm.

****I HAVE KITTENS FOR ADOPTION **** Please help me find them a loving home😭

I read some ppl using those transparent plastic screen as fence (sold in shopee )

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hi all,

i do not own any cats before.
thinking of it.

however I live in an apartment on the 11th floor.

how to cat proof the balcony so that they won't go superman? without drilling can ?
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show example of your balcony.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 17 2021, 03:11 PM)
hi all,

i do not own any cats before.
thinking of it.

however I live in an apartment on the 11th floor.

how to cat proof the balcony so that they won't go superman? without drilling can ?
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Can't find give solution but must cat proof. Else sure superman 1 day.

Btw, anyone tried auto cleaning litterbox? Plan to buy 1 on 11.11

Very expensive though
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 17 2021, 03:11 PM)
hi all,

i do not own any cats before.
thinking of it.

however I live in an apartment on the 11th floor.

how to cat proof the balcony so that they won't go superman? without drilling can ?
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something like this? using plastic mesh, cable tied to the grill
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Is it worth it to invest in an automatic water fountain to replace my cat's water bowl? Just asking if it is more sanitary than a regular water bowl.
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something like this? using plastic mesh, cable tied to the grill
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can show top ceiling + side how u secure the mesh?
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Is it worth it to invest in an automatic water fountain to replace my cat's water bowl? Just asking if it is more sanitary than a regular water bowl.
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if it can make ur cat drink more.

that is the main aim. make cat drink more.

the water circulate. seldom changge , kena cat saliva, unless u change water everyday.
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can show top ceiling + side how u secure the mesh?
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Side i left around 15 cm to secure it, the mesh itself is quite hard so it stay in place. But for extra precaution i nail / bend it to the wall with some ikea nail. thumbsup.gif


And i did not put the mesh all the way to the ceiling, just another 30 cm of mesh from the railing and a stick hold it in place.
At first it was only up to the railing, but caught the 2 fatty tip toeing the railing 1 night, not really mad but impressed shakehead.gif

look a bit messy but it was rush job and last for 2 year now.

Planning to use some Telescopic Extension Pole Handle, wrap the mesh around it and fix it to the sides for more proper/tidy look

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ok thx.

like this is ok if d cat not notty,
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user posted image
Side i left around 15 cm to secure it, the mesh itself is quite hard so it stay in place. But for extra precaution i nail / bend it to the wall with some ikea nail.  thumbsup.gif
And i did not put the mesh all the way to the ceiling, just another 30 cm of mesh from the railing and a stick hold it in place.
At first it was only up to the railing, but caught the 2 fatty tip toeing the railing 1 night, not really mad but impressed  shakehead.gif

look a bit messy but it was rush job and last for 2 year now.

Planning to use some Telescopic Extension Pole Handle, wrap the mesh around it and fix it to the sides for more proper/tidy look
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Hardware shop sell some skinny pre-cut wood that you can use to extend the grill all the way up to the top/ceiling. You can double it so that it doesn't easily break. Use cable ties to secure the wood to the grills.
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Is it worth it to invest in an automatic water fountain to replace my cat's water bowl? Just asking if it is more sanitary than a regular water bowl.
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If it make the cat drink more, then yes it is worth it. tongue.gif You do need to change the filter media when the time comes.
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Up there exposed, ur lovely cats won't climb & accidentally fall over?
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there is always risk , d cat will climb n fall over.

they do stoopid things, n unpredictable.

so is up to the owner to decide, n access the cat temperament.

good example is , the cat tht can hang on the shoulder of the biker owner..

how many cats can do that?? lol..

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QUOTE(peachpeach @ Sep 18 2021, 07:46 AM)
Hey if you are interested to adopt than shop, do drop me a pm.

****I HAVE KITTENS FOR ADOPTION **** Please help me find them a loving home😭

I read some ppl using those transparent plastic screen as fence (sold in shopee )
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 18 2021, 04:18 PM)
show example of your balcony.
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Can't find give solution but must cat proof. Else sure superman 1 day.

Btw, anyone tried auto cleaning litterbox? Plan to buy 1 on 11.11

Very expensive though
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something like this? using plastic mesh, cable tied to the grill
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Thank you all for your inputs. I've decided to adopt a 1 year old cat =). ordered some netting for the bottom part of the rail of the balcony. for the above part.. might need to find telescopic poles later . I will not let her out to balcony until then.

fingers crossed bringing her home will be smooth.

any first time owner tips is welcome =)
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 22 2021, 12:50 PM)
there is always risk , d cat will climb n fall over.

they do stoopid things, n unpredictable.

so is up to the owner to decide, n access the cat temperament.

good example is , the cat tht can hang on the shoulder of the biker owner..

how many cats can do that?? lol..

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This is very dangerous tho, the cat can easily fell n hit by moving cars 😣


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QUOTE(suitface @ Sep 21 2021, 03:26 PM)
user posted image
Side i left around 15 cm to secure it, the mesh itself is quite hard so it stay in place. But for extra precaution i nail / bend it to the wall with some ikea nail.  thumbsup.gif
And i did not put the mesh all the way to the ceiling, just another 30 cm of mesh from the railing and a stick hold it in place.
At first it was only up to the railing, but caught the 2 fatty tip toeing the railing 1 night, not really mad but impressed  shakehead.gif

look a bit messy but it was rush job and last for 2 year now.

Planning to use some Telescopic Extension Pole Handle, wrap the mesh around it and fix it to the sides for more proper/tidy look
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the top is not high enough. must secured to ceiling like jail. that height, all my cats can climb over. if you don't want surprised one day, better secure it completely.
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yes i agree that the best way is to secure it like a jail.

need to do a bit of work.
if got $$$ no prob, jz hire ppl do nice nice.

if diy, the cheapest way i could think of is use those farming nets that can last a long time.
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You can use this wood which you can find at hardware store. You beefed it up by using two, three or more. Depends on the balcony. If it have metal railings instead of cement, you can attach these wood stick to the railings using cable ties. This way you can fixed plastic or metal nets all the way to the ceiling. Just make sure no one leans or climb it. It only cat safe, not human safe. tongue.gif
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Guys....can teach me basic vaccination for cat. How much per vaccination
I got 3 kittens with 5 weeks old
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for kl, lowest can find is rm35 or lower for the usual 4-1 jab.
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My newly adopted cat, Sasha. =)
Sorry about the toy playing, i haven't learn how to properly play the feather toy the way she likes.



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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 7 2021, 01:27 PM)
hope u can collect $$$ to spay the mom n all kittens before put for adoption.

i know where to spay for rm90 in kl.

some crazy ppl take kitten feed their snake,
or let the cat breed to feed snake...
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Hi there, can I know where is the place where they charge rm90 for spaying?
Is vaccination needed before spaying? I want to bring a stray for spaying. The cat already gave birth twice. She got pregnant for the second time very soon after the first birth sweat.gif
Thankfully, all the kittens have found their home now.
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My newly adopted cat, Sasha. =)
Sorry about the toy playing, i haven't learn how to properly play the feather toy the way she likes.


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Hi there, can I know where is the place where they charge rm90 for spaying?
Is vaccination needed before spaying? I want to bring a stray for spaying. The cat already gave birth twice. She got pregnant for the second time very soon after the first birth  sweat.gif
Thankfully, all the kittens have found their home now.
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i p m u in a while..

if you manage to go there, do update here..

yes before 3 months after giving birth, mom cat will get pregnant again,

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suddenly my cat got this red spot just above his eye. Probably ringworm, hoping nothing serious. He is an indoor cat, so wondering where he got it.

Any suggestion on medication? Planning to apply Canisep himalaya and later bath both my cat with Malaseb just in case.


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check with uv light to confirm if it is ringworm.
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Hi, i have adopted one stray cat currently about 6-7 months old.

The cat had completed the FVRCP vaccination.

Vet has recommended vaccination for leukaemia. My cat mostly indoor as currently staying at an apartment. Shall i send the cat for leukaemia vaccination?
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Hi, i have adopted one stray cat currently about 6-7 months old.

The cat had completed the FVRCP vaccination.

Vet has recommended vaccination for leukaemia. My cat mostly indoor as currently staying at an apartment. Shall i send the cat for leukaemia vaccination?
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since it is stray cat u can have it tested for fiv/felv,

if completely indoor and not mix with other unknown cat, then very unlikely to get felv , fiv.

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since it is stray cat u can have it tested for fiv/felv,

if completely indoor and not mix with other unknown cat, then very unlikely to get felv , fiv.
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Does anyone have recommendation for automatic cat feeder? Plan to use it when I am away for longer hours because my cats are used to eating a few meals a day instead of the typical 2 times (Spoiled already due to 1 year of prolonged MCO) I dont want the unlimited food type because they are too greedy.

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Does anyone have recommendation for automatic cat feeder? Plan to use it when I am away for longer hours because my cats are used to eating a few meals a day instead of the typical 2 times (Spoiled already due to 1 year of prolonged MCO) I dont want the unlimited food type because they are too greedy.
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those good quality ones / expensive
should be ok.

y not let them eat 2meals, they should do fine, unless hv special needs.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 29 2021, 11:01 AM)
those good quality ones / expensive
should be ok.

y not let them eat 2meals, they should do fine, unless hv special needs.
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For some reason both of them eat too much and puke if it's less meals. They won't stop eating until the food all gone, dunno how to space out their intake.
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Hi, is there any pet nutritionist in Malaysia?

Am afraid that I would not be able to discuss raw feeding with my local vet sad.gif
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Hi, is there any pet nutritionist in Malaysia?

Am afraid that I would not be able to discuss raw feeding with my local vet sad.gif
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discuss with other raw feeders, local n foreign..

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Hi, is there any pet nutritionist in Malaysia?

Am afraid that I would not be able to discuss raw feeding with my local vet sad.gif
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I have been reading that vets usually lack knowledge in pet nutrition and are more likely to be against/very cautious against it. I'm currently feeding a home made meal (made by a seller) consisting of chicken meat, heart, liver, neck and head and it is not cheap. So I'm thinking of trying to do it myself but worried about the imbalance of nutrients or other precautions of raw feeding.
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yup, most vets they follow text book,
they are so busy, seldom have time to study research.
plus they hv to sell those food in their clinic.. lol..

so paham paham la.

dont worry too much, bout lack of nutrien,
no problem wan.

unless ur cat is competition grand champion tht,
abit tis that not ngam will have effek on this that..
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Hi guys, can i ask if anyone has any recommended vet for cats at PJ / Uptown / SS2 area? I used to bring my 3 musketeers to Healing Hands (used to be at DJ, now moved to Uptown) but last i went to them they were very rough in handling them and my cats were ultra stressed.

Really appreciate the recommendations, thank you! <3

sorry if it is a reposta but i can't seem to find a vet list on the front page paisehh smile.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 6 2022, 09:24 AM)
I have been reading that vets usually lack knowledge in pet nutrition and are more likely to be against/very cautious against it. I'm currently feeding a home made meal (made by a seller) consisting of chicken meat, heart, liver, neck and head and it is not cheap. So I'm thinking of trying to do it myself but worried about the imbalance of nutrients or other precautions of raw feeding.
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OK, I'm pretty sure they are taught pet nutrition, even if they aren't specialized in it. The main reason they usually advise against it is because most people don't know wtf they're doing and end up harming the cat. The nutrients a cat requires are of a delicate balance, it's not something to fk around with. I do agree you should find a pet nutritionist, but it's possible your vet may be able to recommend one to you.

QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 6 2022, 02:11 PM)
yup, most vets they follow text book,
they are so busy, seldom have time to study research.
plus they hv to sell those food in their clinic.. lol..

so paham paham la.

dont worry too much, bout lack of nutrien,
no problem wan.

unless ur cat is competition grand champion tht,
abit tis that not ngam will have effek on this that..
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QUOTE(huiyin_hsu @ Jan 6 2022, 09:06 PM)
Hi guys, can i ask if anyone has any recommended vet for cats at PJ / Uptown / SS2 area? I used to bring my 3 musketeers to Healing Hands (used to be at DJ, now moved to Uptown) but last i went to them they were very rough in handling them and my cats were ultra stressed.

Really appreciate the recommendations, thank you! <3

sorry if it is a reposta but i can't seem to find a vet list on the front page paisehh smile.gif
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my go-to vet for my 2 cats is Pets Health at Aman Suria. Docs are gentle in handling them, price is reasonable (compared to the one I used to go at Animal Clinic, SS14 sweat.gif ) and open on weekends too. Can try ya, truly recommend thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Jan 7 2022, 11:18 AM)
contrary to popular belief, they don't actually get kickbacks. would be best if we stop perpetuating that myth.
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vet clinics dont rcv kickbacks??
i cant be too sure,

vet like animal hospital in jln tun razak,
they are the sole distributor / importer of hills'
and of course they wana sell that to their customer, cos the company will benefit..

myth or no myth its all bout bisness these days..

pet shop linked to vets etc..

segar vets, long time femes clinic,
its a pet shop and a vet ..
dowan untung? no untung? lol..

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share some 'tools'
i only like to use these types,
scoop.. it depends on the litter used..

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Hi,

How to handle cat that died from parvo? Can I buried just like that in the soil?
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Hi,

How to handle cat that died from parvo? Can I buried just like that in the soil?
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parvo virus , disinfect with bleach solution any thing tht cat contacted..

bury deeper, if thts the only choice..
cremation mahal oh.., unless diy..
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parvo virus , disinfect with bleach solution any thing tht cat contacted..

bury deeper, if thts the only choice..
cremation mahal oh.., unless diy..
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Is the thing we use to disinfect the premise for covid, effective as well for the parvo virus?

Cremation with petrol might be suitable? I read high temperature effectively killed the virus, no?

This is my friend's cat. His shop cat. My house nearer & have land to buried dead cat but I want to do it properly because my neighbours cats roam at my land. My cats are 100% house cat. I have posted this everywhere yesterday because I want to settle it yesterday. Even FB groub that talk about parvo also don't reply. Only you reply. Local people also know how to treat parvo, even know which grass to use but when asked how to care the dead cat, all said just throw in the bin or buried. Lol no wonder lots of cat get parvo.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 10 2022, 11:45 AM)
parvo virus , disinfect with bleach solution any thing tht cat contacted..

bury deeper, if thts the only choice..
cremation mahal oh.., unless diy..
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BTW, is it normal for vet just do physical checkup & said "I think parvo virus", give you antibiotics (for 120 ringgit) & send you home? They don't test? This is what happen to my friend.

This happens once with my cat. The vet just did physical check & said maybe sporo. Even though I said this cat was 100% house cat. Take out very fancy syringe, I think it is glass syringe & inject it to my cat. Brought him home. A couple hours later he dead with blood coming out from the anus.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jan 10 2022, 12:34 PM)
Is the thing we use to disinfect the premise for covid, effective as well for the parvo virus?

Cremation with petrol might be suitable? I read high temperature effectively killed the virus, no?

This is my friend's cat. His shop cat. My house nearer & have land to buried dead cat but I want to do it properly because my neighbours cats roam at my land. My cats are 100% house cat. I have posted this everywhere yesterday because I want to settle it yesterday. Even FB groub that talk about parvo also don't reply. Only you reply. Local people also know how to treat parvo, even know which grass to use but when asked how to care the dead cat, all said just throw in the bin or buried. Lol no wonder lots of cat get parvo.
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based on search online,
any object/material tht's been in contact with the cat needs to be disinfected/cleaned
Bleach can kill the virus, easy n cheap stuff.
for the carcass, as long as nothing /animal can touch it, chances off the virus spreadin is can say zero la, thts y need to bury deep, so nothing can korek it out. virus wont crawl out of the ground.. lol..

cremation, is burnin the flesh into ashes.. tht u need bahan api like wood to continuosly burn it, so abit leceh..
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BTW, is it normal for vet just do physical checkup & said "I think parvo virus", give you antibiotics (for 120 ringgit) & send you home? They don't test? This is what happen to my friend.

This happens once with my cat. The vet just did physical check & said maybe sporo. Even though I said this cat was 100% house cat. Take out very fancy syringe, I think it is glass syringe & inject it to my cat. Brought him home. A couple hours later he dead with blood coming out from the anus.
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well, this is just short cut way, maybe the vet don't have the test kit or lazy to do it..
macam2 ada, esp in town not many vet clinic.
so they cincai do lo..
sad..
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thts y need to bury deep, so nothing can korek it out. virus wont crawl out of the ground.. lol..

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With raining season, I believe that can happen.

Unfortunately the sanitizer gun not effective for parvo. I was curious because he already have that sanitizer gun. He regularly sanitize his premise. I will tell him to use bleach but I doubt he would listen to me.
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Basically bought my kitten to a vet (rescued from outdoors) and he was diagnosed with scabies and ringworm. Doctor applied an antifungal ointment to him and gave him medicine. He told me that this will spread to human but assured me it won’t harm me. Just wash my hands after I handled the kitten.

This was 4 days ago. The kitten lives in my room together with me but NOT on my bed. I don’t handle him that frequent but he does play a lot with my feet and bites them while I’m gaming.

So I decided to read up more information about all these ringworm infection and while majority seems to say nothing to be worried about, there are some horror stories as well. Some post suggest quarantining the cat.

My question is is quarantine necessary? How cautious do I have to be with the cat? Am I sure to get infected now and what should I do? Also, I am browsing some antifungal creams or spray for my cat and if you have good experience with any certain brand, please share. I have to add this is my first cat and I have zero experience keeping them.


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Any small and delicious low carb treats to recommend?

I came across this brand at Pet Safari. Any thoughts?

https://www.petloverscentre.com/products/fa...-grain-free-50g

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Basically bought my kitten to a vet (rescued from outdoors) and he was diagnosed with scabies and ringworm. Doctor applied an antifungal ointment to him and gave him medicine. He told me that this will spread to human but assured me it won’t harm me. Just wash my hands after I handled the kitten.

This was 4 days ago. The kitten lives in my room together with me but NOT on my bed. I don’t handle him that frequent but he does play a lot with my feet and bites them while I’m gaming.

So I decided to read up more information about all these ringworm infection and while majority seems to say nothing to be worried about, there are some horror stories as well. Some post suggest quarantining the cat.

My question is is quarantine necessary? How cautious do I have to be with the cat? Am I sure to get infected now and what should I do? Also, I am browsing some antifungal creams or spray for my cat and if you have good experience with any certain brand, please share. I have to add this is my first cat and I have zero experience keeping them.
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you can read up about ringworm on humans.
how it is spread etc etc.
and if you think you can risk it, then carry on like present.

if you dont wana take the risk, you can put the kitten in another room or cage until it is cured frm ringworm.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 10 2022, 09:46 PM)
Any small and delicious low carb treats to recommend?

I came across this brand at Pet Safari. Any thoughts?

https://www.petloverscentre.com/products/fa...-grain-free-50g
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u can giv dried meat, = zero carb, no added extras.
the one u show, got starch glycerine...
plc stuff sure is more expensive ... lol..

try dehydrated cat treats on shopee etc.
those freeze dried is supposely just meat n nothing else..

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pet food lucrative biz..

anything also can sell.. got ppl buy..

like this wet can food, oem frm where?
china? jz print a label , stick in on, ok dy..

u wan more info, email them..
liddat ar? lol..

nevermind la.. jz for cat n dog eat oni mar.. ..

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chinese cat food...

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Hi, can recommend any cat hotel around Atria or Kepong?
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try search online.

ive only been to kitty cottage tddi.
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Folks,

Am checking if anybody send their cat to get the FELV vaccine jab? Am checking to see if I need to jab my cat for that as well. biggrin.gif

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Folks,

Am checking if anybody send their cat to get the FELV vaccine jab? Am checking to see if I need to jab my cat for that as well. biggrin.gif
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if ur cat got go out mix with homeless cat or got go boarding..
the risk comes frm there.

felv vaccine oso got risk, ponya, very rare

i think earlier i got post some info..
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always check if the vaccine is killed or modified live virus.
adjuvant free purevax by merial (mod live) is preffered for cats, and inject at leg / tail.

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 28 2022, 08:32 AM)
always check if the vaccine is killed or modified live virus.
adjuvant free purevax by merial (mod live) is preffered for cats, and inject at leg / tail.

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Thanks Basilisk. My cat is 99% indoor cat and I only have 1 cat and not planning to get another. Do you think I should get her vaccinated against this as well? Basically am looking to cover her from all know diseases which can be prevented through vaccine now.

Thanks for highlighting the preference of Vaccine types.
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Thanks Basilisk. My cat is 99% indoor cat and I only have 1 cat and not planning to get another. Do you think I should get her vaccinated against this as well? Basically am looking to cover her from all know diseases which can be prevented through vaccine now.

Thanks for highlighting the preference of Vaccine types.
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no problem,

if there is no risk, dont have to vaccinate for felv,
dont put the cat at risk getting cancer at injection site.

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no problem,

if there is no risk, dont have to vaccinate for felv,
dont put the cat at risk getting cancer at injection site.

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Noted, I'll not vaccinate her for that seeing that she's not boarding or anything. THanks for the info.
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Hi guys, can i ask if anyone has any recommended vet for cats at PJ / Uptown / SS2 area? I used to bring my 3 musketeers to Healing Hands (used to be at DJ, now moved to Uptown) but last i went to them they were very rough in handling them and my cats were ultra stressed.

Really appreciate the recommendations, thank you! <3

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 11 2022, 10:38 AM)
pet food lucrative biz..

anything also can sell.. got ppl buy..

like this wet can food,  oem frm where?
china? jz print a label , stick in on, ok dy..

u wan more info, email them..
liddat ar? lol..

nevermind la.. jz for cat n dog eat oni mar.. ..

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chinese cat food...

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Honestly, based on my personal experience, its best not to buy these chinese pet food. I have bought from china via online before, and non of my cats showed any interest in the food. It ended up in the trash bin.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 6 2022, 09:24 AM)
I have been reading that vets usually lack knowledge in pet nutrition and are more likely to be against/very cautious against it. I'm currently feeding a home made meal (made by a seller) consisting of chicken meat, heart, liver, neck and head and it is not cheap. So I'm thinking of trying to do it myself but worried about the imbalance of nutrients or other precautions of raw feeding.
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I have thought of raw feeding my cats before, but i gave up coz its not easy to source for hygienic raw food. You have to be very sure of the meat sources, from the moment the chicken is slaughtered til it reaches your hand, the whole process has to be completely hygiene or you will risk causing your cat a whole bunch of other health problem before nutrients imbalance happens. In my opinion, if you can be sure of the entire raw food source handling process is being done in a hygienic environment, without any risk of bacteria contamination, only then you should consider about raw feeding.
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QUOTE(evonnewoon @ Jan 29 2022, 02:29 PM)
I have thought of raw feeding my cats before, but i gave up coz its not easy to source for hygienic raw food. You have to be very sure of the meat sources, from the moment the chicken is slaughtered til it reaches your hand, the whole process has to be completely hygiene or you will risk causing your cat a whole bunch of other health problem before nutrients imbalance happens. In my opinion, if you can be sure of the entire raw food source handling process is being done in a hygienic environment, without any risk of bacteria contamination, only then you should consider about raw feeding.
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Hi Evonne, yes your concerns definitely very valid. In fact, since my last post, I've decided to partially bake the meat in the oven to kill off surface bacteria. Lisa Pierson uses this method as well!
https://catinfo.org/making-cat-food/
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 30 2022, 10:33 PM)
Hi Evonne, yes your concerns definitely very valid. In fact, since my last post, I've decided to partially bake the meat in the oven to kill off surface bacteria. Lisa Pierson uses this method as well!
https://catinfo.org/making-cat-food/
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I have for a short period of time feed my cats with raw beef meat. I bought the frozen beef meat. Defrost it using microwave.
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I am going to take my feline for a 2nd vaccination this coming Saturday. Anything to look out for? And any advice?
He had taken his 1st vaccination on 12.Jan this year.

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normally vet will do visual check, make sure deworm, free of fleas etc, no skin prob etc..
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Is anyone looking to buy Royal Canin wet food? I am trying to sell my cat's wet food, she is not keen on this type, she prefers fish-based. I have 4 boxes if anyone looking to buy

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5241610
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im not a cat lover.

but i come here coz i am angry people cats come pooping at my porch everyday.

i have scoured the internet for solution and seems like it is still an unsolved mystery.

is there any solution that works?
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im not a cat lover.

but i come here coz i am angry people cats come pooping at my porch everyday.

i have scoured the internet for solution and seems like it is still an unsolved mystery.

is there any solution that works?
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if possible, prevent the cats frm entering, put wire mesh on gate etc, put stuff tht make it difficult for the cat to pass,
sometimes need to do some extreme stuff.
ppl will say looks ugly la, leceh la.. well..

those red water botol, kencing rimao, timun, those waste money + wont work.

buy these frm shopee
https://shopee.com.my/product/319078788/416...92-1644806799.9

best n most difficult, is to scare the shit out of the cat when it arrives..

tis gurantee tht cat tht kena wont come back again.
when it kena one bucket of water during the time it start to berak...
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Hi all. Saya baru di sini

Maaf jika saya tak biasa dengan keadaan forum.

Ingin bertanya ( maaf kalau berulang soalan ) dan cuba utk dapatkan feedback members ttg kucing sy ini. Mungkin boleh beri pandangan sedikit. Jadi sy tulis panjang lebar sikit.

Mohon cadangan makanan kering bagi kucing dewasa utk sy cuba sesuai utk yang ada masalah najis lembik kadang2 seperti saiz anak kucing.

Tidak pasti jika ada masalah penghadaman/sembelit. Vet minta pantau makanan / tukar dsbgnya. Sy selalu kecewa jika ke vet. Anyway hm sambung balik

Telah mencuba pelbagai jenama ( tidak semua ) sekarang sedang memghabiskan wono. Ingin mencuba cadangan lain yang sesuai. Mohon cadangkan beberapa.

Keadaan Najis nya tu mcm masalah pula pd saya lol. Tidak normal sebab lembik2 🤔 mcm sakit perut kah? Tapi tidak cair.

Male 3 tahun long mixed dlh
Tidak dimandulkan
Indoor hse cat tapi bebas di halaman rumah
Nafsu makan Ok (masa muda picky eater hanya nak makan kitten kibbles walaupun sudah 1 thn +) mcm biasa ini tak bolehlah dah besar.
Kebanyakan masa makan dry food
Wet food sebulan sekali (kadang2 tiada. Tengok budget)

Maaf panjang pula. Sepanjang membesarkan dia sejak usianya 5bulan dan sekarang sudah 3thn lebih, dia tidak pernah melompat2 atau pancut merata-rata untuk menanda kaw dan sbgnya. Adakah ini biasa utk kucing jantan?

Nafsu kuda tapi tiada rezeki anak. Ada seekor betina di rumah sebelum ini. Tp sudah tiada 2021 lalu. Gone due to parvo. Dia murung selepas hal ini. Stress dan hilang berat badan. Kematian isteri mu gkin?

Selepas itu sy dapatkan yang baru, sempat mengawan n dpt kitten seekor now 6bulan male.

Sy dapati sejak ada anak ni, dia berak pula merata di dalam rumah ( di ruangan yang terbuka bukan sorok2) tapi hanya lakukan ini jika saya tiada di rumah.

Jika sy ada bol3h pula membuang dalam litterbox nya. Sy sudah belikan litterbox baru berikutan fikir maybe dia tak mahu berkongsi.

Hmm Kenapa ya? Dia mmg jenis potty trained dan tidak membuang merata tempat selama in

Hubungan dgn isteri baru n anak ok. Sebab dia ok ok je jenisnya. Tak agresif 🤭 hmm maybe isteri baru garang sikit. overprotecting. Isteri baru ni Hm baru datang sudah fikir macam semua dia punya. Kerap kena tampar setiap kali suami ingin mengawan.

So kucing sy ni, Manja tak sangat. Misteri iya. Pendiam lol. "Can call me, i purr and tergolek2 but dont pet me" type aa boleh bayang? Tengok je eh. Mcm tu lah lebih kurang.

Itulah sedikit sebanyak ttg nya mungkin ade latar belakang sikit bol3h bg sepatah 2 kata kenapa dia begini pd usia ini.

Masalah kini:
Underweight less 3.5 kg ( doc said maybe stress should be 5kg )
Kebanyakan masa tidur (mmg kerja nya)
Kurang aktif (sejak dewasa mcm ni hanya tido.makan minum poop kadang nampak membuang tp acah2 saja. Maybe sembelit?)

Sebenarnya apa.masalah yg kucing sy hadapi? Hes not happy? Saya juga bercadang utk mandulkannya jika itu dpt membantu stress nya?

Terima kasih semua harap sudi respon.






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QUOTE(Rikkisan @ Feb 15 2022, 06:42 PM)
Hi all.   Saya baru di sini

Maaf jika saya tak biasa dengan keadaan forum.

Ingin bertanya ( maaf kalau berulang soalan ) dan cuba utk dapatkan feedback members ttg kucing sy ini.  Mungkin boleh beri pandangan sedikit. Jadi sy tulis panjang lebar sikit.

Mohon cadangan makanan kering bagi kucing dewasa utk sy cuba sesuai utk yang ada masalah najis lembik kadang2 seperti saiz anak kucing.

Tidak pasti jika ada masalah penghadaman/sembelit.  Vet minta pantau makanan / tukar dsbgnya.  Sy selalu kecewa jika ke vet.  Anyway hm sambung balik

Telah mencuba pelbagai jenama ( tidak semua ) sekarang sedang memghabiskan wono.  Ingin mencuba cadangan lain yang sesuai. Mohon cadangkan beberapa. 

Keadaan Najis nya tu mcm masalah pula pd saya lol. Tidak normal sebab lembik2 🤔 mcm sakit perut kah? Tapi tidak cair. 

Male 3 tahun long mixed dlh
Tidak dimandulkan
Indoor hse cat tapi bebas di halaman rumah
Nafsu makan Ok (masa muda picky eater hanya nak makan kitten kibbles walaupun sudah 1 thn +) mcm biasa ini tak bolehlah dah besar. 
Kebanyakan masa makan dry food
Wet food sebulan sekali (kadang2 tiada. Tengok budget)

pernah berak tahi cantik solid kan? masa tu makan brand apa? stay ngan brand itu la.
kalau ada baget, cuba purina one, beli pek kecik/repack, harap kucing makan la. kucing dewasa makan kitten food tak ada masalah, kitten food lagi banyak kalori, protin, lemak lagi tinggi, boleh bantu tambah berat badan.


Maaf panjang pula.  Sepanjang membesarkan dia sejak usianya 5bulan dan sekarang sudah 3thn lebih,  dia tidak pernah melompat2 atau pancut merata-rata untuk menanda kaw dan sbgnya. Adakah ini biasa utk kucing jantan?

jantan perangai baik, syukur banyak2 ...


Nafsu kuda tapi tiada rezeki anak.  Ada seekor betina di rumah sebelum ini.  Tp sudah tiada 2021 lalu. Gone due to parvo.  Dia murung selepas hal ini. Stress dan hilang berat badan.  Kematian isteri mu gkin?

Selepas itu sy dapatkan yang baru, sempat mengawan n dpt kitten seekor now 6bulan male. 

Sy dapati sejak ada anak ni, dia berak pula merata di dalam rumah ( di ruangan yang terbuka bukan sorok2) tapi hanya lakukan ini jika saya tiada di rumah.

Jika sy ada bol3h pula membuang dalam litterbox nya.   Sy sudah belikan litterbox baru berikutan fikir maybe dia tak mahu berkongsi. 

Hmm Kenapa ya? Dia mmg jenis potty trained dan tidak membuang merata tempat selama in

bila tak ada kat rumah, boleh letak dlm cage ngan kotak pasir, train dia dulu, dah lama lepas keluar lagi, tengok keadaan.


Hubungan dgn isteri baru n anak ok.  Sebab dia ok ok je jenisnya.  Tak agresif 🤭 hmm maybe isteri baru garang sikit. overprotecting. Isteri baru ni Hm baru datang sudah fikir macam semua dia punya.  Kerap kena tampar setiap kali suami ingin mengawan. 

So kucing sy ni, Manja tak sangat.  Misteri iya.  Pendiam lol.  "Can call me, i purr and tergolek2 but dont pet me"  type aa boleh bayang? Tengok je eh.  Mcm tu lah lebih kurang. 

kucing jantan memang ada perangai camtu, dia tak nak manja manja gesel ngan tuan, sentuh banyak pon tak bagi, sentuh kepala aje ok, lain area dia gigit..

Itulah sedikit sebanyak ttg nya mungkin ade latar belakang sikit bol3h bg sepatah 2 kata kenapa dia begini pd usia ini.

Masalah kini:
Underweight less 3.5 kg ( doc said maybe stress should be 5kg )
Kebanyakan masa tidur (mmg kerja nya)
Kurang aktif (sejak dewasa mcm ni hanya tido.makan minum poop kadang nampak membuang tp acah2 saja. Maybe sembelit?)

biasanya brand murah, kandungan fiber/serat tinggi, so taik dia banyak, makan sikit, taik menimbun, macam brand brit premium.
klu purina one, makan banyak, taik sikit aje.. takut sembelit, klu kucing yg tak suka makan banyak.


Sebenarnya apa.masalah yg kucing sy hadapi? Hes not happy? Saya juga bercadang utk mandulkannya jika itu dpt membantu stress nya?

ya mandulkan, sebab bila ada hormon akan kacau dia punya emosi etc, bila dah mandul, berat badan akan meningkat..


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QUOTE(Rikkisan @ Feb 15 2022, 06:42 PM)
Hi all.   Saya baru di sini

Maaf jika saya tak biasa dengan keadaan forum.

Ingin bertanya ( maaf kalau berulang soalan ) dan cuba utk dapatkan feedback members ttg kucing sy ini.  Mungkin boleh beri pandangan sedikit. Jadi sy tulis panjang lebar sikit.

Mohon cadangan makanan kering bagi kucing dewasa utk sy cuba sesuai utk yang ada masalah najis lembik kadang2 seperti saiz anak kucing.

Tidak pasti jika ada masalah penghadaman/sembelit.  Vet minta pantau makanan / tukar dsbgnya.  Sy selalu kecewa jika ke vet.  Anyway hm sambung balik

Telah mencuba pelbagai jenama ( tidak semua ) sekarang sedang memghabiskan wono.  Ingin mencuba cadangan lain yang sesuai. Mohon cadangkan beberapa. 

Keadaan Najis nya tu mcm masalah pula pd saya lol. Tidak normal sebab lembik2 🤔 mcm sakit perut kah? Tapi tidak cair. 

Male 3 tahun long mixed dlh
Tidak dimandulkan
Indoor hse cat tapi bebas di halaman rumah
Nafsu makan Ok (masa muda picky eater hanya nak makan kitten kibbles walaupun sudah 1 thn +) mcm biasa ini tak bolehlah dah besar. 
Kebanyakan masa makan dry food
Wet food sebulan sekali (kadang2 tiada. Tengok budget)

Maaf panjang pula.  Sepanjang membesarkan dia sejak usianya 5bulan dan sekarang sudah 3thn lebih,  dia tidak pernah melompat2 atau pancut merata-rata untuk menanda kaw dan sbgnya. Adakah ini biasa utk kucing jantan?

Nafsu kuda tapi tiada rezeki anak.  Ada seekor betina di rumah sebelum ini.  Tp sudah tiada 2021 lalu. Gone due to parvo.  Dia murung selepas hal ini. Stress dan hilang berat badan.  Kematian isteri mu gkin?

Selepas itu sy dapatkan yang baru, sempat mengawan n dpt kitten seekor now 6bulan male. 

Sy dapati sejak ada anak ni, dia berak pula merata di dalam rumah ( di ruangan yang terbuka bukan sorok2) tapi hanya lakukan ini jika saya tiada di rumah.

Jika sy ada bol3h pula membuang dalam litterbox nya.   Sy sudah belikan litterbox baru berikutan fikir maybe dia tak mahu berkongsi. 

Hmm Kenapa ya? Dia mmg jenis potty trained dan tidak membuang merata tempat selama in

Hubungan dgn isteri baru n anak ok.  Sebab dia ok ok je jenisnya.  Tak agresif 🤭 hmm maybe isteri baru garang sikit. overprotecting. Isteri baru ni Hm baru datang sudah fikir macam semua dia punya.  Kerap kena tampar setiap kali suami ingin mengawan. 

So kucing sy ni, Manja tak sangat.  Misteri iya.  Pendiam lol.  "Can call me, i purr and tergolek2 but dont pet me"  type aa boleh bayang? Tengok je eh.  Mcm tu lah lebih kurang. 

Itulah sedikit sebanyak ttg nya mungkin ade latar belakang sikit bol3h bg sepatah 2 kata kenapa dia begini pd usia ini.

Masalah kini:
Underweight less 3.5 kg ( doc said maybe stress should be 5kg )
Kebanyakan masa tidur (mmg kerja nya)
Kurang aktif (sejak dewasa mcm ni hanya tido.makan minum poop kadang nampak membuang tp acah2 saja. Maybe sembelit?)

Sebenarnya apa.masalah yg kucing sy hadapi? Hes not happy? Saya juga bercadang utk mandulkannya jika itu dpt membantu stress nya?

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Want to ask if anyone ever did amputation surgery for kitten before? Found a kitten outside my house, estimated 3-4 months old only, just beginning to start eating wet food age, alone without mother, one of the hind leg limping, that leg is definitely can't be saved anymore since its already 180 degree bent to the back, she was dragging her leg everywhere. The kitten is healthy after few days of care, active and playful. Should I amputate the hind leg? Any idea how much the cost would be at UVH/UPM? I asked Yeoh's veterinary in PJ and they estimated it would be 1-1.5k for surgery alone. Any feedback is much appreciated, thanks!
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yeoh is well known to be expensive, the old man yeoh is reknown pakar tulang..

try ask cyberlynx, vpac..
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yeoh is well known to be expensive, the old man yeoh is reknown pakar tulang.. 

try ask cyberlynx, vpac..
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Ok, will do, just wondering what would happen if the leg was left there without amputation? the joint seems to have healed nicely, no open wounds/infection, just that the kitten is dragging one of her hind leg everywhere she runs to, but she doesnt seem to mind about the non functioning leg. Should I still amputate her?
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Ok, will do, just wondering what would happen if the leg was left there without amputation? the joint seems to have healed nicely, no open wounds/infection, just that the kitten is dragging one of her hind leg everywhere she runs to, but she doesnt seem to mind about the non functioning leg. Should I still amputate her?
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the kitten check by vet already?

if no external wound, no broken bones, no sign rotting flesh, no sign of pain, no joint rupture,

i would leave her liddat n observe further.

jz make sure the skin not cut frm draggin on floor..

since u said 180° to the back,

is the leg hanging loose like broken? if yes then maybe it is broken, or fall out frm socket, x ray can tell.

sometimes a broken leg can be fixed without surgery,

i got one case the kitten roll over by car, hind leg broken jz after the joint, lucky one vet say dont have to do surgery,
just put plaster cast, so we did that, later d fler fully healed,

this old vet is the poliklinik at old klang road beside esso that time was ~ year 2000, cat lived for 14years..

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the kitten check by vet already?

if no external wound, no broken bones, no sign rotting flesh, no sign of pain, no joint rupture,

i would leave her liddat n observe further.

jz make sure the skin not cut frm draggin on floor..

since u said 180° to the back,

is the leg hanging loose like broken? if yes then maybe it is broken, or fall out frm socket, x ray can tell.

sometimes a broken leg can be fixed without surgery,

i got one case the kitten roll over by car, hind leg broken jz after the joint, lucky one vet say dont have to do surgery,
just put plaster cast, so we did that, later d fler fully healed,

this old vet is the poliklinik at old klang road beside esso that time was ~ year 2000, cat lived for 14years..
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No external wounds, the skin has slight abrasion from dragging across the road outside, i had treated the abrasion wound, yes the leg seem to hang loose like broken. I used to bring my cats and dogs to the old klang road vet too! However after the old vet no longer there, i find the younger vets (i have seen few different vets there) performance quite inconsistent, some is good some is not so good and i decided to switch vet. Perhaps I'll consider bringing this kitten back there.
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No external wounds, the skin has slight abrasion from dragging across the road outside, i had treated the abrasion wound, yes the leg seem to hang loose like broken. I used to bring my cats and dogs to the old klang road vet too! However after the old vet no longer there, i find the younger vets (i have seen few different vets there) performance quite inconsistent, some is good some is not so good and i decided to switch vet. Perhaps I'll consider bringing this kitten back there.
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ive not been there more than 15y,
old vet shouldve retired long ago, his daugther is the vet there,
if the bone broken aft a long time, might have problem join back n surgery might be costly.
the kitten must be in great pain?
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QUOTE(Rikkisan @ Feb 15 2022, 06:42 PM)
Maaf panjang pula.  Sepanjang membesarkan dia sejak usianya 5bulan dan sekarang sudah 3thn lebih,  dia tidak pernah melompat2 atau pancut merata-rata untuk menanda kaw dan sbgnya. Adakah ini biasa utk kucing jantan?


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want to ask .... how much it cost to vaccine a cat in KL ? thanks ..  tongue.gif
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rm 35 or higher for 4 in one, latest price dono got increase, u just call the clinic and ask.
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rm 35 or higher for 4 in one, latest price dono got increase, u just call the clinic and ask.
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example of 4 in 1 vaccine by zoetis pfizer

FELOCELL 4

Feline Rhinotracheitis-Calici-Panleukopenia-Chlamydia Psittaci Vaccine
Modified Live Virus and Chlamydia

For use in cats only

Fellocell 4 is for vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in preventing feline viral rhinotracheitis (FVR) caused by feline herpesvirus-1, feline respiratory disease caused by feline calicivirus (FCV), feline panleukopenia caused by feline parvovirus (FPV), and feline chlamydiosis caused by Chlamydia psittaci.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 3 2022, 09:08 PM)
example of 4 in 1 vaccine by zoetis pfizer

FELOCELL 4

Feline Rhinotracheitis-Calici-Panleukopenia-Chlamydia Psittaci Vaccine
Modified Live Virus and Chlamydia

For use in cats only

Fellocell 4 is for vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in preventing feline viral rhinotracheitis (FVR) caused by feline herpesvirus-1, feline respiratory disease caused by feline calicivirus (FCV), feline panleukopenia caused by feline parvovirus (FPV), and feline chlamydiosis caused by Chlamydia psittaci.
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Got it. Thanks, gotta check what kinda vax has my cat been getting. lol

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its the same thing, maybe diff brand.
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its the same thing, maybe diff brand.
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rm 35 or higher for 4 in one, latest price dono got increase, u just call the clinic and ask.
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but need to bring them for second vaccine next month, will cost another rm40 each ... tongue.gif
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fake equilibrio, 7.5kg,

i check photos on shopee, buyer put for rating, indeed the logo is missing!
so seller still selling fakes, and no one is stopping them.

user posted image

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fake equilibrio, 7.5kg,

i check photos on shopee, buyer put for rating, indeed the logo is missing!
so seller still selling fakes, and no one is stopping them.

user posted image
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Who's the seller? Shopee?
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cindy recipe i think got kitten punya
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cindy recipe i think got kitten punya
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bought a can of that.

purina ok?
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HI, my cat ady got CKD and already at stage 4 (13/14 years old) if not mistaken. It do not have any appetite at all except we pump food, secondly i just realize it also got constipation now is ady day 5 (I will bring it to consult vet for Tomorrow or Saturday). Any sifu experience enough or provide idea how i can support Cat for (CKD last stage), I just want to do what i can to provide the best quality life for for the remaining journey?

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bought a can of that.

purina ok?
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purina got fancy feast which is the expensive one, the meat grade use is high grade, so it is $$$.
the cheaper one is felix, it is processed chunks, which is actually a mix of this n that cheaper ingredient.

if u feed entirely meat like fancy feast, not sure if it is recommended for kitten.

feed wet food as supplement perhaps.
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QUOTE(JZ Mak @ Apr 7 2022, 08:28 PM)
HI, my cat ady got CKD and already at stage 4 (13/14 years old) if not mistaken. It do not have any appetite at all except we pump food, secondly i just realize it also got constipation now is ady day 5 (I will bring it to consult vet for Tomorrow or Saturday). Any sifu experience enough or provide idea how i can support Cat for (CKD last stage), I just want to do what i can to provide the best quality life for for the remaining journey?
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my dog got kidney problem last time. cat pancrease /jaundice,

both eventually they will get very skinny even tho they eat, and til the last stage they wont eat at all, all you can do is to put them on drips. i hv to diy subcutaneous infusion.

i dont want them to suffer for long, so pts is way.
dog/cat oredi not moving / can hardly move at all at home.

pts i requested the vet to do 2 injections, ( pay more )
first one is GE to let it sleep, then the next one (doo lethal) is to stop the heart.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Apr 7 2022, 11:00 PM)
purina got fancy feast which is the expensive one, the meat grade use is high grade, so it is $$$.
the cheaper one is felix, it is processed chunks, which is actually a mix of this n that cheaper ingredient.

if u feed entirely meat  like fancy feast, not sure if it is recommended for kitten.

feed wet food as supplement perhaps.
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too bad...currently he doesn't seems to favor dry kibbles...even though i have wet it wif water.

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too bad...currently he doesn't seems to favor dry kibbles...even though i have wet it wif water.
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wht brand kibble you feed?

wet food 80% water so u need to feed enough
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wht brand kibble you feed?

wet food 80% water so u need to feed enough
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royal canin kittens.
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royal canin kittens.
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rc kitten oso dowan, sure old enough/ wean milk oredi?
choosy cat maybe,
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rc kitten oso dowan, sure old enough/ wean milk oredi?
choosy cat maybe,
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yes, i feel so too. but i still try to mix it wif his wet food.
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don't buy bangsawan cat/pets,
wont risk kena con.
bcos somany likes to BUY,
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Hi everyone! I'm planning to adopt a kitten soon, want to ask some advice:

1. I have a 4-year-old dog, he generally ignores other animals (timid, he prefers hooman). How do I introduce the new kitty to the household so they get along well?

2. Any kitten food brand to recommend (preferably kibbles)? The kitten will be 100% indoor so would like to choose brand that produce less smelly poop. Kitten is currently on wet food + kibbles.

Thank you in advance!

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Hi everyone! I'm planning to adopt a kitten soon, want to ask some advice:

1. I have a 4-year-old dog, he generally ignores other animals (timid, he prefers hooman). How do I introduce the new kitty to the household so they get along well?

2. Any kitten food brand to recommend (preferably kibbles)? The kitten will be 100% indoor so would like to choose brand that produce less smelly poop. Kitten is currently on wet food + kibbles.

Thank you in advance!
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1. Close monitoring, gradual introduction. Depends on your doggo personality.

2. go to Cat Supermarket, try multiple brand, find one that the kitten like / prefer and less smelly poop. Different cat - different poop sweat.gif As for me, I use Royal Canine. Pricey but the less poop smell.
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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 18 2022, 11:50 AM)
1. Close monitoring, gradual introduction. Depends on your doggo personality.

2. go to Cat Supermarket, try multiple brand, find one that the kitten like / prefer and less smelly poop. Different cat - different poop  sweat.gif  As for me, I use Royal Canine. Pricey but the less poop smell.
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Hi everyone! I'm planning to adopt a kitten soon, want to ask some advice:

1. I have a 4-year-old dog, he generally ignores other animals (timid, he prefers hooman). How do I introduce the new kitty to the household so they get along well?

2. Any kitten food brand to recommend (preferably kibbles)? The kitten will be 100% indoor so would like to choose brand that produce less smelly poop. Kitten is currently on wet food + kibbles.

Thank you in advance!
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2. I am using Orijen and it's been the only one I have been using since day one. Literally cannot smell any poop unless i go dig the sandbox. There was once my cat took a dump in the hall but I did not know about it until I saw it physically. So.....I think that helped alot but it's one of the most expensive one.
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Im planning to add home cooked food for my 2 8 month old kittens. They are currently on RC kibbles and some wet food as topper. From reading up it would seem tat adding supplements and bone meal would be good to ensure their meal is balanced.
What are some good all round supplements available? Iherb seems to be pretty much out of stock for most of the stuff.
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hey guys.. rescued a kitten few months back...shd b around 6months old nw..she has a bad habit of bitting us but not toys..we r covered with little scars now @@ any advise from sifu sekalian for this matter ?
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depends on how long I'm away. They are fine on their own for 5 days, but anything longer, I hire a catsitter.
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Hi, anyone using Royal Canin Indoor 27 here? I just got a pack switching from RC Sterilised and was surprised to see the kibble size so big! They look like dog kibble size to me.
I got it online so am worried that I may have gotten a fake.
The picture shows the sterilised kibbles compared to the indoor. Sterilised is half the size.
Can anyone share if the RC INDOOR kibble size is that large? Tq

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double check with distributor.
rc last time alot fake,
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hello cat people.

how to prevent my cats from getting kidney disease?

i've lost a cat once, maine coon breed and i feed him royal canin the moment he can eat solid food.
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hello cat people.

how to prevent my cats from getting kidney disease?

i've lost a cat once, maine coon breed and i feed him royal canin the moment he can eat solid food.
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kidney failure? age?
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hello cat people.

how to prevent my cats from getting kidney disease?

i've lost a cat once, maine coon breed and i feed him royal canin the moment he can eat solid food.
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Drank enough water?

Personally don't have experience with cat and kidney failures and don't want that but generally, I believe you gotta control their protein intake. They are okie taking high protein kibbles during the early stages but it should be less over time.


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Anyone let me adopt one? Wanted to have one. Now so sunyi at home.
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hello cat people.

how to prevent my cats from getting kidney disease?

i've lost a cat once, maine coon breed and i feed him royal canin the moment he can eat solid food.
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The best way is to feed your cat dry & wet food regularly instead of dry food only. For example, dry food in the morning & wet food in the evening/night. They would love that.
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Anyone had good experience putting your cat at a cat/pet hotel?

I'm looking to put my cat for like 10 days and looking for something affordable.

The thing I'm worried about is the cat experiencing stress and possibly contracting disease or something.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 29 2022, 01:51 AM)
Anyone had good experience putting your cat at a cat/pet hotel?

I'm looking to put my cat for like 10 days and looking for something affordable.

The thing I'm worried about is the cat experiencing stress and possibly contracting disease or something.
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yup there is always tht risk.

the cheaper ones of cos risk is higher, u oni need to visit the place n c for yourself.

cheapest ones, just put it in small steel cage, stackup with other cat, last time i c is rm15/day.
u think , got risk or not, of cos tis way is very risky to get sick, fleas etc, + stress.

expensive ones, one whole room for ur cat.
u bring ur own disinfectant n u clean it up puas puas.
then tell them ur cat cant mix wit any other cat, only stay in that room. - less risk, fler can go in n play wit it, got web cam u can monitor.
but very expensive.

u got fren, family help u jaga? - risk is they xcdenly let the cat out of d hse n cant find anymore..
it happened before, pet sitter error, boarding place cuai...
u can search for the news...

so how? susah right...
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QUOTE(eds2 @ Jul 24 2022, 11:02 PM)
hello cat people.

how to prevent my cats from getting kidney disease?

i've lost a cat once, maine coon breed and i feed him royal canin the moment he can eat solid food.
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- eat healthy food, never feed human foods to cat, please avoid feeding kibbles la because many of them are full of crap e.g. flour, corn, wheat, pea.
- drink MORE water... can add water to the food even if you are already feeding wet food.

can read more about CKD here : No.12

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lol those u tryin to sell is human food oso wht...

nowadays these freeze dried stuff all starting to flood the market, many are bulk purchase from china,..
jz repack n sell aje...
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 3 2022, 10:33 PM)
lol those u tryin to sell is human food oso wht...

nowadays these freeze dried stuff all starting to flood the market, many are bulk purchase from china,..
jz repack n sell aje...
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sell? i dont sell lol. but i do feed my cats freeze-dried food and also wet food.

no la, what i meant "human food" is those human-cooked food & snacks with seasonings, garlic, alcohol, dairy etc, cat cannot eat these so don't feed.
read this for the list.

ya, agreed with u there are many pet food from china, so need to do proper research before u buy as some of them are low-quality (i kena before) some are actually good quality, lesson: always buy from a reputable brand.

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QUOTE(habaapaaa @ Sep 5 2022, 01:14 PM)
sell? i dont sell lol. but i do feed my cats freeze-dried food and also wet food.

no la, what i meant "human food" is those human-cooked food & snacks with seasonings, garlic, alcohol, dairy etc, cat cannot eat these so don't feed.
read this for the list.

ya, agreed with u there are many pet food from china, so need to do proper research before u buy as some of them are low-quality (i kena before) some are actually good quality, lesson: always buy from a reputable brand.
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Ya. I asked one of the so called Malaysia brand freeze dried pet food sellers in the big 2 online portals. Malaysia brand so are the products made in Malaysia? At least they were honest enough despite the misleading labelling to tell that apparently there are no freeze dry factories in Malaysia so mainly all import from China.
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QUOTE(habaapaaa @ Sep 5 2022, 01:14 PM)
sell? i dont sell lol. but i do feed my cats freeze-dried food and also wet food.

no la, what i meant "human food" is those human-cooked food & snacks with seasonings, garlic, alcohol, dairy etc, cat cannot eat these so don't feed.
read this for the list.

ya, agreed with u there are many pet food from china, so need to do proper research before u buy as some of them are low-quality (i kena before) some are actually good quality, lesson: always buy from a reputable brand.
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What's reputable brand of freezedried food?
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What are some of the better wet food brands in here? My joys are currently on Acana kibble but I'm looking to add wet food to help with their water intake. Been reading up but hoping for some 1st hand inputs. Thanks!
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QUOTE(happyshirt @ Sep 17 2022, 07:08 PM)
What are some of the better wet food brands in here? My joys are currently on Acana kibble but I'm looking to add wet food to help with their water intake. Been reading up but hoping for some 1st hand inputs. Thanks!
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if got budget, monge 80g can, very good cos alot meat, no thickeners, no jelly, less liquid.

there is a trick, depend on individual cat,
it is to add more water to the can food.
for eg 20g monge add 30g warm water,
u get d fler to consume more water, and one can u can feed 4 times.

alot work yes, d cat i jaga kena stone once so i hv to do it to trick it to consume more water, n save cost on can food.
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Sep 16 2022, 04:57 PM)
What's reputable brand of freezedried food?
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QUOTE(happyshirt @ Sep 17 2022, 07:08 PM)
What are some of the better wet food brands in here? My joys are currently on Acana kibble but I'm looking to add wet food to help with their water intake. Been reading up but hoping for some 1st hand inputs. Thanks!
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Freeze-dried food: Primal nuggets, Grace cat, Rannova so far so good

Wet cat food: Carnilove 100g - the grain-free, potato-free one

Agreed with basilisk to add more water even though you are feeding wet food.
Long time ago, I didn't add much water to the wet food, just two or three tablespoons of water, and one of my cats had difficulty peeing. He kept going to the litter but no pee came out (or just little drops), went to check and start adding more water to their food (is like becoming soup already), and then the problem solved. Now, I will try to add water to whatever food I feed, no matter it's dry or wet food.

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HI, my cat ady got CKD and already at stage 4 (13/14 years old) if not mistaken. It do not have any appetite at all except we pump food, secondly i just realize it also got constipation now is ady day 5 (I will bring it to consult vet for Tomorrow or Saturday). Any sifu experience enough or provide idea how i can support Cat for (CKD last stage), I just want to do what i can to provide the best quality life for for the remaining journey?
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hope your cat is still here. my cat on stage 2. now doing daily ivdrip. so susah. can't believe i gain skill to ivdrip, but still not as efficient as vet.

my plan is to bring her out jalan jalan instead of in the house, but still havent have time sad.gif. at least she taste the wild again before byebye.
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So I watched a video on single kitten syndrome and realized this is what is happening to my cat who just turned 1 year old recently. He bites a lot and plays rough. (We found him when he was 1 month old only has some socialization with another kitten until 3 months or so only)

Is it still okay to adopt a kitten and can this lessen the single kitten syndrome in my 1 year old cat?

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 4 2022, 12:20 AM)
So I watched a video on single kitten syndrome and realized this is what is happening to my cat who just turned 1 year old recently. He bites a lot and plays rough. (We found him when he was 1 month old only has some socialization with another kitten until 3 months or so only)

Is it still okay to adopt a kitten and can this lessen the single kitten syndrome in my 1 year old cat?
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probably want to adopt another cat around his age to match energy.
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Quite sad that if a cat is sick, it decides to hide and die itself.

One of my taman cat, disappear, even the bangkai also cannot be found. Just want a closure to find the corpse bury properly.
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Quite sad that if a cat is sick, it decides to hide and die itself.

One of my taman cat, disappear, even the bangkai also cannot be found. Just want a closure to find the corpse bury properly.
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Happened to many of my cats. It's always like that. Old age, sick, hiding then puff gone for good. bye.gif
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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Oct 5 2022, 11:47 AM)
Quite sad that if a cat is sick, it decides to hide and die itself.

One of my taman cat, disappear, even the bangkai also cannot be found. Just want a closure to find the corpse bury properly.
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Yeah, dunno why like that. Encountered many times. But on the other hand, I just hope, some house actually adopted them, that's why can't see them anymore. Faint hope though
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 4 2022, 12:20 AM)
So I watched a video on single kitten syndrome and realized this is what is happening to my cat who just turned 1 year old recently. He bites a lot and plays rough. (We found him when he was 1 month old only has some socialization with another kitten until 3 months or so only)

Is it still okay to adopt a kitten and can this lessen the single kitten syndrome in my 1 year old cat?
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It's better to have companion, different sex preferably. They can teman each other when you not available. I have 12 cats. Not worried leaving them alone when I go vacation/long period of times, since they got companions. Only problem is too much shits when return home
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 4 2022, 12:20 AM)
So I watched a video on single kitten syndrome and realized this is what is happening to my cat who just turned 1 year old recently. He bites a lot and plays rough. (We found him when he was 1 month old only has some socialization with another kitten until 3 months or so only)

Is it still okay to adopt a kitten and can this lessen the single kitten syndrome in my 1 year old cat?
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Have you try giving a chew toy for him to chew on when he is looking to bite on something? My kitten used to do that until I sumbat the plushy in her mouth and she chews the plushy instead of me now. lol. Am okie with them playing rough ...actually not that rough also as long as their nails are trimmed....no harm done.....
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 19 2022, 10:20 AM)
It's better to have companion, different sex preferably. They can teman each other when you not available. I have 12 cats. Not worried leaving them alone when I go vacation/long period of times, since they got companions. Only problem is too much shits when return home
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Same case with my 7 cats. Roaming freely in and out of our house. The have their own door to get in and out. The cat litter can 'overflow' if left them alone for 4-5 days. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 19 2022, 12:19 PM)
if got budget, monge 80g can, very good cos alot meat, no thickeners, no jelly, less liquid.

there is a trick, depend on individual cat,
it is to add more water to the can food.
for eg 20g monge add 30g warm water,
u get d fler to consume more water, and one can u can feed 4 times.

alot work yes, d cat i jaga kena stone once so i hv to do it to trick it to consume more water, n save cost on can food.
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Thanks for the tip. 1 of my boys peed blood and then I for some reason that fella stopped drinking water totally. Aiyooo. I will definately be adding water to his can food
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Hello Furparents

I would like to ask an advice concerning cat on heat (female). My cat already spayed last year but some how she still exhibit sign of on heat

- kept on calling (meowing non-stop)
- rolling2 on the floor
- licking the private parts
- lift up the body to position

already consult with one of the vet and they can't find whats wrong with her..

is there any alternative? she only started to call out late at night until morning and it quite loud.
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Hello guys. Any cheaper alternative to Blackwood that is still as healthy?
I always buy Blackwood indoor 6KG
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 1 2022, 09:19 AM)
Hello guys. Any cheaper alternative to Blackwood that is still as healthy?
I always buy Blackwood indoor 6KG
Anyone?
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 1 2022, 09:19 AM)
Hello guys. Any cheaper alternative to Blackwood that is still as healthy?
I always buy Blackwood indoor 6KG
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 1 2022, 09:19 AM)
Hello guys. Any cheaper alternative to Blackwood that is still as healthy?
I always buy Blackwood indoor 6KG
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now all naik harga la,

can try brit care 7kg bit cheaper /kg than black wood.
or brit premium 8kg, cheaper / kg than brit care,

buy small pack, not repack to test,
fussy cat mebe wont like,

i find brit care, they formulated the 'smell/aroma' really well,
u can add a bit of liquid to moisten the kibs, it really smells great.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Nov 1 2022, 09:04 AM)
Hello Furparents

I would like to ask an advice concerning cat on heat (female). My cat already spayed last year but some how she still exhibit sign of on heat

- kept on calling (meowing non-stop)
- rolling2 on the floor
- licking the private parts
- lift up the body to position

already consult with one of the vet and they can't find whats wrong with her..

is there any alternative? she only started to call out late at night until morning and it quite loud.
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u can ask the vet who did the operation, did they fully remove the reproductive organ?

at wht age the cat spayed? previously experienced heat cycle?
or gave birth before?

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 2 2022, 11:36 PM)
u can ask the vet who did the operation, did they fully remove the reproductive organ?

at wht age the cat spayed? previously experienced heat cycle?
or gave birth before?
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recently i did sent to my current vet clinic to check on her, they did operate and confirm there isn't any reproductive organ left

the previous vet clinic sent for operation haven't check on them yet as they just recently re-open after renovation.

i spayed her when she 5 years old although she did had gave birth before when 4 years old (during 1st MCO).
additional note : I did spayed operation when she was still on heat.. not sure if this is the reason.

now already 6 years old

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Nov 3 2022, 08:21 AM)
recently i did sent to my current vet clinic to check on her, they did operate and confirm there isn't any reproductive organ left

the previous vet clinic sent for operation haven't check on them yet as they just recently re-open after renovation.

i spayed her when she 5 years old although she did had gave birth before when 4 years old (during 1st MCO).
additional note : I did spayed operation when she was still on heat..  not sure if this is the reason.

now already 6 years old

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then there is nothing to worry about.
5yo already gone tru many heat cycle,
so i guess the memory remains,
jz hv to live with her noisy behavior once in a while.

i hv witness one of the male cat under my care, he is tryin to mate another male cat... lol..
u cant say they main gay...
the fler got neutered when he oredi adult n experienced mating wit female etc,... so once in a while caught d fler doin tht...
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There was a stray cat came over to my place (kampung house) years ago so I just let her stay.
Now there's even more of them.

Never caged those cats, just let them roam freely outdoor.
But because it's kampung area there always the occurrence of them gone missing, ate by snake (REALLY), fight with other strays, etc
The grown up ones aren't a problem, it's the small kittens - they just loves to crawl into car engines.

I just made a 2' x 5' x 2.5' height decently large cage but obviously none of them likes being in a cage.
Decide to just DIY as those ready made products are freaking tiny for their price.
Is there method to make them want to stay in cage, or at least not resisting it that much?
Is there somekind of heating product that don't require electricity to put inside cage? They loves to get into/onto vehicles becuase of the residue heat after all.
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I bought a pure breed BSH last month.

but my 3 adult cats don't like her. tried many ways online. slow introduce, keep carrier training close to each other, play together, and feed together.

whenever my eyes are not on them, one of the adult cats start growling at her, then the other 2 will also join.
So now I can only leave her in 1 of the room by herself.

it has been 3 weeks since, any ideas or ways you guys tried before that works?


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and finally it happened!

Mars pet care is buying champion pet food.

https://catingtonpost.com/mars-is-buying-or...upset-about-it/
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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Nov 3 2022, 11:37 PM)
There was a stray cat came over to my place (kampung house) years ago so I just let her stay.
Now there's even more of them.

Never caged those cats, just let them roam freely outdoor.
But because it's kampung area there always the occurrence of them gone missing, ate by snake (REALLY), fight with other strays, etc
The grown up ones aren't a problem, it's the small kittens - they just loves to crawl into car engines.

I just made a 2' x 5' x 2.5' height decently large cage but obviously none of them likes being in a cage.
Decide to just DIY as those ready made products are freaking tiny for their price.
Is there method to make them want to stay in cage, or at least not resisting it that much?
Is there somekind of heating product that don't require electricity to put inside cage? They loves to get into/onto vehicles becuase of the residue heat after all.
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dont think it will work.

best bet is u just need to scare the shit out of them several times, and after that when u bang on the car bonet they will sure cabut.

try to sound d horn a lil, then make it bit louder...

fishing out dead burnt kitten is no joke..
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Nov 1 2022, 09:04 AM)
Hello Furparents

I would like to ask an advice concerning cat on heat (female). My cat already spayed last year but some how she still exhibit sign of on heat

- kept on calling (meowing non-stop)
- rolling2 on the floor
- licking the private parts
- lift up the body to position

already consult with one of the vet and they can't find whats wrong with her..

is there any alternative? she only started to call out late at night until morning and it quite loud.
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This is new. I read you spayed her at 5 years old. Probably it become a habit to her because you spayed her a bit late. Usually we spayed them at younger age. Did she spray urine as well?

Or maybe she have dementia or some kind mental illness.

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 3 2022, 11:46 AM)
i hv witness one of the male cat under my care, he is tryin to mate another male cat... lol..
u cant say they main gay...
the fler got  neutered when he oredi adult n experienced mating wit female etc,... so once in a while caught d fler doin tht...
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He is showing dominance to another male cat. Female do the same to another female. Not all cats show this behavior though.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 4 2022, 02:21 AM)
and finally it happened!

Mars pet care is buying champion pet food.

https://catingtonpost.com/mars-is-buying-or...upset-about-it/
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Hopefully they won't turn the brand into a mediocre brand......else i would have to find an alternative.....
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 4 2022, 12:20 AM)
So I watched a video on single kitten syndrome and realized this is what is happening to my cat who just turned 1 year old recently. He bites a lot and plays rough. (We found him when he was 1 month old only has some socialization with another kitten until 3 months or so only)

Is it still okay to adopt a kitten and can this lessen the single kitten syndrome in my 1 year old cat?
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Just an update. I have adopted a 9-10 month old female cat from one of the rescuers. Rescuer said the cat is quiet but later I found out the cat was always kept in a cage for 1 month already laugh.gif laugh.gif

Will be receiving the cat next month. Hopefully, the new cat can socialise and play together with my 1 year old male cat.

Also, I was watching some videos, so I have to dedicate a special room for the new cat. I will prepare a separate food bowl and litter box. Hopefully the cat is comfortable enough for the first few days then I can start introducing the male cat's scent to the new cat. Overall, usually how long does it take for a new cat to fully adapt to the new surrounding and to befriend the existing cat?

My current cat should have no issues as he is very friendly to any cat or any human - super sociable biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 19 2022, 10:20 AM)
It's better to have companion, different sex preferably. They can teman each other when you not available. I have 12 cats. Not worried leaving them alone when I go vacation/long period of times, since they got companions. Only problem is too much shits when return home
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Oct 19 2022, 11:20 AM)
Same case with my 7 cats. Roaming freely in and out of our house. The have their own door to get in and out. The cat litter can 'overflow' if left them alone for 4-5 days.  rclxub.gif
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I feed my cat wet food.

But I think I can compromise by giving the cats dried food to use with the auto food dispenser. Water is no issue too.

But what about the litter box? Buy extra litter boxes?

If it works, might be able to save a lot of money as pet hotels are pricey! Like RM70-80/night for a decently large room.

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Nov 15 2022, 09:12 PM)
I feed my cat wet food.

But I think I can compromise by giving the cats dried food to use with the auto food dispenser. Water is no issue too.

But what about the litter box? Buy extra litter boxes?

If it works, might be able to save a lot of money as pet hotels are pricey! Like RM70-80/night for a decently large room.
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As for the litter box. I have 5 large litter boxes in my house's toilet. That toilet is dedicated for cat's toilet, off limit to human use. I clean them on daily basis. My cats' hates 'dirty' litter box. whistling.gif (I'm a hooman cat slave rclxub.gif )

I did install a ventilator, sucking toilet 'fume' straight to outside of the house. Very minimal smell in the house. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Nov 16 2022, 09:37 AM)
As for the litter box. I have 5 large litter boxes in my house's toilet. That toilet is dedicated for cat's toilet, off limit to human use. I clean them on daily basis. My cats' hates 'dirty' litter box.  whistling.gif  (I'm a hooman cat slave  rclxub.gif )

I did install a ventilator, sucking toilet 'fume' straight to outside of the house. Very minimal smell in the house.  thumbsup.gif
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Do you have someone coming to check on your cats when you are away? Worried the auto feeder may not work, water fountain toppled over, cats got injured and bleeding, etc?
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Do you have someone coming to check on your cats when you are away? Worried the auto feeder may not work, water fountain toppled over, cats got injured and bleeding, etc?
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As for autofeeder, just use gravity based auto feeder. Zero failure. thumbsup.gif And I don't use water fountain, just a big bowl of water (bottom heavy design). Too heavy to be topled by my notty cats rclxs0.gif

If something wrong, then I'll ask my friend / neighbour to have a look. So far all good. sweat.gif
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and finally it happened!

Mars pet care is buying champion pet food.

https://catingtonpost.com/mars-is-buying-or...upset-about-it/
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Hi.. about to share this as well... I doubt MARS will maintain the good quality foods as before..

it's a sad news .. maybe we can look for alternative already
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How often should I bathe an adult cat?

Right now I just apply spot-on treatment (Advocate). Should I also give them baths?

Any cat shampoo to recommend?
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How often should I bathe an adult cat?

Right now I just apply spot-on treatment (Advocate). Should I also give them baths?

Any cat shampoo to recommend?
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Why would you? Cat is a clean freak. They spend most of their time grooming themselves. whistling.gif
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Why would you? Cat is a clean freak. They spend most of their time grooming themselves.  whistling.gif
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Oh okay. So once per month spot on flea treatment is enough? No need any other maintenance for their fur, right?
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Oh okay. So once per month spot on flea treatment is enough? No need any other maintenance for their fur, right?
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Yup.

As for flea treatment, I do it on needed basis. If I see flea, then I'll do the treatment. One of my cats, hardly any flea but the other, like a flea magnet. sweat.gif All of them are 'free-range' cats. Indoor and outdoor as they wish.

For fur treatment - it depends on cat, long hair one maybe can send for grooming & trimming every 2-3 months. Nothing much. Cat groom their fur religiously tongue.gif

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Oh okay. So once per month spot on flea treatment is enough? No need any other maintenance for their fur, right?
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if the cat 100% indoor, then u dont hv to put poison every month.

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if the cat 100% indoor, then u dont hv to put poison every month.
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Yeah they are indoor. But somehow they still get fleas.
Not sure if because the fleas come from me when I feed stray cats that camp outside my house. sad.gif
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Yeah they are indoor. But somehow they still get fleas.
Not sure if because the fleas come from me when I feed stray cats that camp outside my house. sad.gif
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the area that the stray cat camp, u can frequently spray insecticide,
when it is not raining or when it is dry,
and also u can spray the area of ur hse where ur cat likes to lepak.

u can buy this brand and mix according to the lable.
it doesnt have any smell at all, and the level is like ridsect etc, just dont have any smell n very cost effective.
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any large breed owners here in malaysia?
looking for advise regarding larger breeds like maincoon and caracal?
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any large breed owners here in malaysia?
looking for advise regarding larger breeds like maincoon and caracal?
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What kind of advice?  hmm.gif
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how is day to day life after the initial burst of excitement
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Having a cat is a lifetime commitment. It's a companion. Not a toy / something to be a bragging right. It's like a close extension of one family member. So, on daily basis, it's like one of your family members that you have to attend to. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 21 2022, 02:00 PM)
Having a cat is a lifetime commitment. It's a companion. Not a toy / something to be a bragging right. It's like a close extension of one family member. So, on daily basis, it's like one of your family members that you have to attend to.  sweat.gif
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hi thanks for the lecture but i need specifics for bigger cats
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hi thanks for the lecture but i need specifics for bigger cats
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Not really a lecture, just sharing some experience. One of my cats even died on my lap. Sick. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Okay, I used to have a Maine Coon. Bought it when he was 4 months old. Was with us for nearly 2 years. He was stolen. ranting.gif ranting.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

Having a big cat like Maine Coon is like having a cat. Not much different than any other cat. Cat will do cat thing. Respond to you at their own term. tongue.gif Talkative, eats a lot (we fed him Royal Canine Maine Coon dry food and boiled fresh chicken), loved to have a daily car ride.

Extra grooming is a must (extra long hair). Litter box must be clean twice a day. He's clean freak. He'll complaint all day long till it's clean. Meow meow meow.. my litter box... hooman - clean it...



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Not really a lecture, just sharing some experience. One of my cats even died on my lap. Sick.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

Okay, I used to have a Maine Coon. Bought it when he was 4 months old. Was with us for nearly 2 years. He was stolen.  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

Having a big cat like Maine Coon is like having a cat. Not much different than any other cat. Cat will do cat thing. Respond to you at their own term.  tongue.gif  Talkative, eats a lot (we fed him Royal Canine Maine Coon dry food and boiled fresh chicken), loved to have a daily car ride.

Extra grooming is a must (extra long hair). Litter box must be clean twice a day. He's clean freak. He'll complaint all day long till it's clean. Meow meow meow.. my litter box... hooman - clean it...
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my considerations more like due to his size do i need to do anything extra

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my considerations more like due to his size do i need to do anything extra
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Nothing much. Maine Coon just a big & heavy cat. Gentle giant IMHO. Not hectic & notty like Bengal (used to have one too). thumbup.gif

Owh, forgot, Maine Coon can be train to be leash like a doggo. thumbsup.gif We used to bring our Maine Coon out on leash.

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Nothing much. Maine Coon just a big & heavy cat. Gentle giant IMHO. Not hectic & notty like Bengal (used to have one too). thumbup.gif

Owh, forgot, Maine Coon can be train to be leash like a doggo.  thumbsup.gif We used to bring our Maine Coon out on leash.
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MC ok to swim i hear
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MC ok to swim i hear
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It's rare for a cat to go near water. They normally like their fur dry and warm. sweat.gif
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It's rare for a cat to go near water. They normally like their fur dry and warm.  sweat.gif
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Do you guys get your cat vaccinated on yearly basis?

Especially when you travel and cat hostel needs to see yearly vaccine?
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Do you guys get your cat vaccinated on yearly basis?

Especially when you travel and cat hostel needs to see yearly vaccine?
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if need to send boarding yearly, better vac lor, rm35 oni..

https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/are-...ssary-for-cats=

"Ultimately, how frequently your cat should be vaccinated is determined by your cat’s lifestyle and relative risk."

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I sent my new cat for her 3rd vaccination but didn't realize she doesn't need one until end of the year as she's an adult cat (adults need 2 times while kittens need 3). Vet noticed scabs on her ear which I mentioned some bleeding there.

Vet shined some blue light or something and showed worms/parasytes which is glowing under the light. I actually found out i got charged RM15 for this very simple procedure.

Vet got me anti fungal/baterial/antiseptic cream for her. Brand is Surolan. Cost me RM48

Vet noticed some fleas on the cat and asked me to get deflea medicine for her and my other male cat at home. Cost me RM40+34

Consultation cost RM35.

In total, vet bill was RM172 sad.gif

Also previously, when my older cat's paw got cut and slightly bleeding on his paw. Vet bill was like RM120+ for a very simple treatment like only trimming the fur around the area, cleaning the wound and applying cream. I was only given a small round tube of cream.

.......

With all these vet bills, think I want to get a pet insurance already sad.gif

Any thoughts on Oyen? Like how easy it is to claim etc and things to note about:
https://www.oyen.my/cat-insurance

Also looking at CG Cover Pet insurance
https://cgcover.com/pet-insurance/

Just to cover vet bills and possible surgeries in the future.

Looking at the cheapest RM299/year plan which should cost around RM50/month for both my cats.

Some info on my cats:
Both spayed/neutered and fully vaccinated. Strictly indoor cats. Wet food twice daily.

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I sent my new cat for her 3rd vaccination but didn't realize she doesn't need one until end of the year as she's an adult cat (adults need 2 times while kittens need 3). Vet noticed scabs on her ear which I mentioned some bleeding there.

Vet shined some blue light or something and showed worms/parasytes which is glowing under the light. I actually found out i got charged RM15 for this very simple procedure.

Vet got me anti fungal/baterial/antiseptic cream for her. Brand is Surolan. Cost me RM48

Vet noticed some fleas on the cat and asked me to get deflea medicine for her and my other male cat at home. Cost me RM40+34

Consultation cost RM35.

In total, vet bill was RM172 sad.gif

Also previously, when my older cat's paw got cut and slightly bleeding on his paw. Vet bill was like RM120+ for a very simple treatment like only trimming the fur around the area, cleaning the wound and applying cream. I was only given a small round tube of cream.

.......

With all these vet bills, think I want to get a pet insurance already sad.gif

Any thoughts on Oyen? Like how easy it is to claim etc and things to note about:
https://www.oyen.my/cat-insurance

Also looking at CG Cover Pet insurance
https://cgcover.com/pet-insurance/

Just to cover vet bills and possible surgeries in the future.

Looking at the cheapest RM299/year plan which should cost around RM50/month for both my cats.

Some info on my cats:
Both spayed/neutered and fully vaccinated. Strictly indoor cats. Wet food twice daily.
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