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post Aug 6 2016, 01:31 PM, updated 9y ago

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Welcome! To the V12 Edition of the Recommendation Thread!! [B] thumbup.gif

Thanks for the continous support from the contributors and forumers. It's been an honor working with the contributors helping others in their journey for the ultimate rig. We are here to help you build your pc from the ground up based on your requirements. notworthy.gif

Please do provide the following info while posting

[B][Budget]


[Purpose]

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences]

[Location]
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More updates to come from time to time.Contributors are mostly welcomed!!

Current contributor lists :

- Cable707
- Marfccy
- Pfftclock
- Clem1982
- rav3n82
- Chocobo7779
- Minecrafter
- Zgames
- Goldfries
- TristanX
- terence_nwb
- mod_po
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Pricelists

Low Yat Plaza:
C-Zone - http://www.compu-zone.com
Startec - http://www.startec.com.my
Cycom - http://www.cycom.com.my
Thundermatch (lots of branches outside KL) - http://www.thundermatch.com.my
Idealtech: http://idealtech.com.my/DOWNLOAD/IDEALTECH-PRICELIST.pdf
Viewnet: http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf
Jayacom: http://www.jayacom.com.my/pricelist/diy/D.I.Y%20hardware.pdf
Etech: http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/easyit2u.htm
Swisspac (Penang):here
Navotech (Johor/Melaka):here

For one-stop price-list - http://www.goldfries.com/pc-component-price-list-malaysia/

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LYN Vendors

For those who are unable to obtain a certain part (due to availability issues), here is a list of forumers which you can buy parts from:

1. Hikari85 ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/Hikari85 )
2. lingloong ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/lingloong )
3. Idealtech PC (Idealtech Facebook)
4. GBros ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/GBros )
5. CyntrixTech (no longer active, may require you to message their Facebook page instead: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech )
6. goldfries (shop@goldfries)

Just drop them a personal message and tell them which parts do you need, and if the stocks are available, proceed to payment and they will mail the item to you. icon_idea.gif

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OTHER HELPFUL THREADS:

Extras: Power Supply Wattage Recommendation
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035


Extras: RMA DIRECTORY
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/861703

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Note : All rigs will be updated on a weekly basis and please forgive us for some delay update.Our contributor might be busy from time to time on their stuff.. notworthy.gif
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Hi, need help to suggest for custom rig

[Budget] MYR3000

[Purpose] Wow: Legion

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Only headset

[Monitor resolution] 21

[Games & softwares that use frequently] WOW

[Personal preferences] White casing

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QUOTE(sinbei @ Aug 6 2016, 01:55 PM)
Hi, need help to suggest for custom rig

[Budget] MYR3000

[Purpose] Wow: Legion

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Only headset

[Monitor resolution] 21

[Games & softwares that use frequently] WOW

[Personal preferences] White casing
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 179
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Tecware Alpha White - RM 199
BenQ GW2270H - RM 397
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 3030 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 6 2016, 04:22 PM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 179
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Tecware Alpha White - RM 199
BenQ GW2270H - RM 397
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 3030 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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Would suggest more GPU horse power. Cut the SSD and go for RX470 if the price is right instead. WoW increased the GPU requirements.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 6 2016, 04:32 PM)
Would suggest more GPU horse power. Cut the SSD and go for RX470 if the price is right instead. WoW increased the GPU requirements.
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Sadly the RX470 8GB costs RM 1139 here bangwall.gif

If can wait, then wait for 4GB version, Sapphire Nitro RM 989 and PowerColor Devil Red RM 899, but still need some top up to the initial budget for it.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 6 2016, 04:45 PM)
Sadly the RX470 8GB costs RM 1139 here  bangwall.gif

If can wait, then wait for 4GB version, Sapphire Nitro RM 989 and PowerColor Devil Red RM 899, but still need some top up to the initial budget for it.
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Hopefully we'll see that. My GTX970 running at Level 7 out of 10 graphic settings on Patch 7.0.3.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 6 2016, 04:22 PM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 179
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Tecware Alpha White - RM 199
BenQ GW2270H - RM 397
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 3030 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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Intel Core i5 6402P never sell already

I bought the techware alpha white at 189. Price need to update

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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Aug 6 2016, 09:38 PM)
Intel Core i5 6402P never sell already

I bought the techware alpha white at 189. Price need to update
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Probably Techview is out of stock only, I still can find it at Lowyat Plaza today.

And the case is having different price for each color, you might have bought the black color at RM 189, price is taken from their lelong store (it stated RM 189 for black and RM 199 for white and grey), for bundle purchase discount and latest price, buyers are encouraged to ask for quotation from the sellers, this is just a recommendation thread after all.
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QUOTE(Slick69 @ Aug 6 2016, 10:58 PM)
The cpu is downgraded, and also no more hdd. But they both can be added later. It did exceed the budget a little bit.

Do WOW really require that much gpu? Funny, i always though it to be more cpu-intensive than gpu. I think the original build was adequate.

In other words, i don't think the sacrifices are worth it. But at least in the future, he can get a better cpu if the i3 can't cut it.
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Settings Level 7 (10 max). 4X AA at 1920x1080 gets you 30ish FPS at Garrison with GTX970. What do you think?
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Hey guys, need some help, finally decided to get a new pc! biggrin.gif
I have a case and 750w cooler master PS.
(Currently using an old LG 23" monitor. Might add another 23" just for the lulz)

this is the list that techview suggested me.
comments are much appreciated.
RM 4420
Intel I5-6600
Gigabyte H170-D3HP
Corsair 32GB 2133 D4
Zotac GTX 1070 reference
128GB plextor m6s
2tb WD


thoughts? comments?

The thing is I don't really play graphic intensive games, like dota 2, csgo, gonna get overwatch.... I enjoy online games alot as you can see.

Do recommend and comment and stuffz biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(CubeLogic @ Aug 7 2016, 12:54 AM)
Hey guys, need some help, finally decided to get a new pc! biggrin.gif
I have a case and 750w cooler master PS.
(Currently using an old LG 23" monitor. Might add another 23" just for the lulz)

this is the list that techview suggested me.
comments are much appreciated.
RM 4420
Intel I5-6600
Gigabyte H170-D3HP
Corsair 32GB 2133 D4
Zotac GTX 1070 reference
128GB plextor m6s
2tb WD
thoughts? comments?

The thing is I don't really play graphic intensive games, like dota 2, csgo, gonna get overwatch.... I enjoy online games alot as you can see.

Do recommend and comment and stuffz biggrin.gif
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32GB RAM for those games and tasks? Too much bro biggrin.gif

If you don't play graphics demanding games, you can save money by getting GTX1060/RX480 (or even RX470).


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post Aug 7 2016, 12:53 PM

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Hi,

I have a PC with Intel i5-3470, 8gb RAM, 500GB 7200rpm HDisk, and Nvidia Geforce 210 GCard. I want to upgrade to a Radeon HD 7700 OC edition which I can get for RM200 from a friend.

Is the upgrade worth it? BTW, I only play Dota 2 and CSGO.

Another thing, my current Power Supply is Max Power 500W, Pure Power 250W. If I go through this upgrade, do I need to change my Power Supply to a higher one?

Thanks
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 6 2016, 10:25 PM)
Probably Techview is out of stock only, I still can find it at Lowyat Plaza today.

And the case is having different price for each color, you might have bought the black color at RM 189, price is taken from their lelong store (it stated RM 189 for black and RM 199 for white and grey), for bundle purchase discount and latest price, buyers are encouraged to ask for quotation from the sellers, this is just a recommendation thread after all.
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Yeah, maybe I bought everything from their store they gave me discount but the 6402 they told me they won't restock for that anymore hmm
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Hi, I want to help my friend build his first custom PC but I'm not sure whats the best deal lately so I'm going to ask here

[B][Budget] 2k-2.5k

[Purpose] Dota 2 and CS:GO

[Monitor resolution]1080p (reuse)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 and CS:GO

[Personal preferences] Quality>brands
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 7 2016, 01:24 AM)
32GB RAM for those games and tasks? Too much bro  biggrin.gif

If you don't play graphics demanding games, you can save money by getting GTX1060/RX480 (or even RX470).
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is the cpu enough to drive the graphic card and games? maybe ill try some more graphic intensive games.

how's the price btw
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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 7 2016, 12:53 PM)
Hi,

I have a PC with Intel i5-3470, 8gb RAM, 500GB 7200rpm HDisk, and Nvidia Geforce 210 GCard. I want to upgrade to a Radeon HD 7700 OC edition which I can get for RM200 from a friend.

Is the upgrade worth it? BTW, I only play Dota 2 and CSGO.

Another thing, my current Power Supply is Max Power 500W, Pure Power 250W. If I go through this upgrade, do I need to change my Power Supply to a higher one?

Thanks
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Which 7700? 7700 is a series which consists of 7730, 7750, 7770 and 7790.
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QUOTE(Moongrave @ Aug 7 2016, 01:34 PM)
Hi, I want to help my friend build his first custom PC but I'm not sure whats the best deal lately so I'm going to ask here

[B][Budget] 2k-2.5k

[Purpose] Dota 2 and CS:GO

[Monitor resolution]1080p (reuse)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 and CS:GO

[Personal preferences] Quality>brands
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Tecware Alpha - RM 189

Total: RM 2445 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(CubeLogic @ Aug 7 2016, 02:23 PM)
is the cpu enough to drive the graphic card and games? maybe ill try some more graphic intensive games.

how's the price btw
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Maybe you can try to state your budget so I can give you or compare my build with their build.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 7 2016, 04:26 PM)
Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Tecware Alpha - RM 189

Total: RM 2445 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
Maybe you can try to state your budget so I can give you or compare my build with their build.
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My budget is 4-5k. of course lower better. again dont need powersupply and case. smile.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 7 2016, 04:22 PM)
Which 7700? 7700 is a series which consists of 7730, 7750, 7770 and 7790.
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XFX Radeon 7770 OC 1gb 128bit

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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 7 2016, 05:48 PM)
XFX Radeon 7770 OC 1gb 128bit
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450W or better recommended for HD7770. Your PSU is 250W. Continuous wattage is the one you will be looking at, not max or peak wattage.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 7 2016, 06:02 PM)
450W or better recommended for HD7770. Your PSU is 250W. Continuous wattage is the one you will be looking at, not max or peak wattage.
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So do you think going from geforce 210 to radeon HD 7770 is a worthwhile upgrade for rm200?
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QUOTE(CubeLogic @ Aug 7 2016, 04:31 PM)
My budget is 4-5k. of course lower better. again dont need powersupply and case. smile.gif
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 450
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 262
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 179
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 309

Total: RM 3284 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

This build is a good starting point for high end 1080p gaming, it can handle graphics demanding games without any major issue too on 1080p 60Hz (GTX980 equivalent), I don't see the need to go for GTX1070 when you mostly run Dota 2, CS:GO and other online games.

You didn't mention your casing form factor so I assume it is ATX size and is able to fit the above components.

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So do you think going from geforce 210 to radeon HD 7770 is a worthwhile upgrade for rm200?
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Yup, its a big jump. Even your built-in GPU is better than G210. What is your monitor resolution?
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QUOTE(Slick69 @ Aug 7 2016, 07:26 PM)
Holy moley!

Damn,that is gpu heavy. WOW sure had gone a long way since the last time i saw it
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Yup. They cater for latest hardware now. Hopefully when WoW: Legion launches, there is driver optimization.
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Hello there, I am new here and am from Seremban N9. Am looking build a rig that is mainly for gaming. Would like to of course get the best prices of each parts. Will also plan to overclock in the future and sli or xfire but for now a single VGA will do and the VGA Should be in the GTX 1070 series. Please take in to consideration of our ridiculous weather here in msia and if those parts will be largely affected by it. Also willing to travel to the shop to buy the parts and the dates i will be going around to purchase the parts would be 26/8 and 27/8. Also if there are any combo offers, not full rig combos would be great to include those in too and also any freebies biggrin.gif

Parts Not needed:
1) Casing CM 690 Series
2) HDD
3) Softwares
4) Monitor
5) No special coolers needed for now


Important Part to include would be a SSD the lowest possible and cheapest as well just to add the windows in to it and certain important software.

Budget 4-(5k+-) <<<< If can go less would be nice



[B]PS: Would love if some one can explain why you chose those parts[/B]



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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 7 2016, 06:12 PM)
Yup, its a big jump. Even your built-in GPU is better than G210. What is your monitor resolution?
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I use a 24in monitor on 1920x1080 res
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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 7 2016, 11:33 PM)
I use a 24in monitor on 1920x1080 res
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HD7770 should be fine for CS:GO and DOTA 2.
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QUOTE(DhenoTheDino @ Aug 7 2016, 10:45 PM)
Hello there, I am new here and am from Seremban N9. Am looking build a  rig that is mainly for gaming. Would like to of course get the best prices of each parts. Will also plan to overclock in the future and sli or xfire but for now a single VGA will do and the VGA Should be in the GTX 1070 series. Please take in to consideration of our ridiculous weather here in msia  and if those parts will be largely affected by it. Also willing to travel to the shop to buy the parts and the dates i will be going around to purchase the parts would be 26/8 and 27/8. Also if there are any combo offers, not full rig combos would be great to include those in too and also any freebies  biggrin.gif

Parts Not needed:
1) Casing CM 690 Series
2) HDD
3) Softwares
4) Monitor
5) No special coolers needed for now
Important Part to include would be a SSD the lowest possible and cheapest as well just to add the windows in to it and certain important software.

Budget 4-(5k+-) <<<< If can go less would be nice
[B]PS: Would love if some one can explain why you chose those parts[/B]
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Price might change by the time you are ready to purchase the items so the price that I am going to list down is based on today's rate taken from the seller.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1461
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - RM 699
Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 423
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Total: RM 5246 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

OC build isn't cheap to build and the performance/price ratio is bad when it comes to gaming, most of the games do not show any significant performance bump in terms of FPS.

I don't include a cooler yet, but you need to grab a cheap stock cooler (around RM 50) because Skylake K CPU doesn't come with stock cooler.

You can save at least 1k by going for non-OC build (more budget friendly).

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Price might change by the time you are ready to purchase the items so the price that I am going to list down is based on today's rate taken from the seller.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1461
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - RM 699
Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 423
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Total: RM 5246 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

OC build isn't cheap to build and the performance/price ratio is bad when it comes to gaming, most of the games  do not show any significant performance bump in terms of FPS.

I don't include a cooler yet, but you need to grab a cheap stock cooler (around RM 50) because Skylake K CPU doesn't come with stock cooler.

You can save at least 1k by going for non-OC build (more budget friendly).
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Tks so much for the feedback, What is your take on the Non-OC build?

How about the core shaving that part off and instead using i5 6600k
And also can i reduce the DDR4 rams to a slightly less pricy one


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 7 2016, 04:26 PM)
Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Tecware Alpha - RM 189

Total: RM 2445 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
The amd rx 460 exist or is it preorder?
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QUOTE(DhenoTheDino @ Aug 8 2016, 01:19 AM)
Tks so much for the feedback, What is your take on the Non-OC build?

How about the core shaving that part off and instead using i5 6600k
And also can i reduce the DDR4 rams to a slightly less pricy one
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If I were to go for OC build, I won't take 6600K considering DX12 and Vulkan have started to become mature now in games (slowly) and should become the major API for all the upcoming games in next 3 years, this is where the 6700K starts to shine thanks to its multicore. DX12 and Vulkan aim to take advantage of the multicore of the CPU and reduce the CPU overhead for better graphics output performance.

It is just like you have 4 legs (i5) vs 8 legs (i7), no matter how much steroid (OC) you put in 4 legs, it is still very hard to beat the 8 legs, either in speed or efficiency, but then if you cannot fork out extra for the 8 legs (i7), stick with 4 legs (i5), it will work too, regardless of K or non-K, K gives you extra ability to OC it when needed (after several years when Skylake CPU starts to show some bottleneck symptoms like 1st and 2nd gen Intel CPU now).

RAM can be downgraded to normal one but Skylake does show performance improvements when pairing with high speed RAM, this is normally not the case during DDR3 era, but DDR4, they are biggrin.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1311
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Total: RM 4710 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(Moongrave @ Aug 8 2016, 03:13 AM)
The amd rx 460 exist or is it preorder?
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If I were to go for OC build, I won't take 6600K considering DX12 and Vulkan have started to become mature now in games (slowly) and should become the major API for all the upcoming games in next 3 years, this is where the 6700K starts to shine thanks to its multicore. DX12 and Vulkan aim to take advantage of the multicore of the CPU and reduce the CPU overhead for better graphics output performance.

It is just like you have 4 legs (i5) vs 8 legs (i7), no matter how much steroid (OC) you put in 4 legs, it is still very hard to beat the 8 legs, either in speed or efficiency, but then if you cannot fork out extra for the 8 legs (i7), stick with 4 legs (i5), it will work too, regardless of K or non-K, K gives you extra ability to OC it when needed (after several years when Skylake CPU starts to show some bottleneck symptoms like 1st and 2nd gen Intel CPU now).

RAM can be downgraded to normal one but Skylake does show performance improvements when pairing with high speed RAM, this is normally not the case during DDR3 era, but DDR4, they are  biggrin.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1311
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Total: RM 4710 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
Stock reached Malaysia last week, if it hasn't sold out yet then you can get it on the spot.

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in that case issit i7 6800k would be more benefit for DX12 for gaming itself?
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in that case issit i7 6800k would be more benefit for DX12 for gaming itself?
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So far all the available DX12 games in the market don't show any significant improvement when going from 6700K to 6800K, the performance is mostly same or just 1 to 2 FPS difference only, so 6700K is the max you should spend on currently, focus more on the GPU instead.

Faster cores matter more than more cores currently, still, provided the games have all the resources it needs from the system.


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hi sifu,
Just want to ask those gaming rigs from Techview,etc are good? as I see those 2k~3k setup is around my budget too.

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Hello bro, I changed my mind, will go for Palit GTX 750 Storm now.

So if I buy the GTX 750 card, will this PSU be able to handle it?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-ps550-power-s...0w-3186387.html
(AVF PS550-F12R)

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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 8 2016, 11:04 AM)
hi sifu,
Just want to ask those gaming rigs from Techview,etc are good? as I see those 2k~3k setup is around my budget too.

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It depends on your requirements, some people prefer to max out the GPU instead of bundling the rig with SSD (which doesn't help in improving the FPS), some prefer AMD/Nvidia card, some prefer to have better/nice looking casing, you can always customize it yourself, not necessary need to follow the bundle.


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Hi guys

I have asked earlier for mitx build for office use. Local shops only sell this mobo

Msi h110m pro vh
Msi b150m bazooka

Is this compatible for mitx build? Casing used is cm130
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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 8 2016, 11:15 AM)
Hello bro, I changed my mind, will go for Palit GTX 750 Storm now.

So if I buy the GTX 750 card, will this PSU be able to handle it?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-ps550-power-s...0w-3186387.html
(AVF PS550-F12R)

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Hi guys

I have asked earlier for mitx build for office use. Local shops only sell this mobo

Msi h110m pro vh
Msi b150m bazooka

Is this compatible for mitx build? Casing used is cm130
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Both aren't mITX, they are mATX, so it is not compatible with CM Elite 130 case.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 8 2016, 12:30 PM)
Nope. That is another BS PSU. The most it can handle is around 250W continuous. Nvidia recommends 300W or better for GTX 750.
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Then how about this one?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-power-supply-...0w-1477917.html
(AVF extreme power 650W)
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Then how about this one?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-power-supply-...0w-1477917.html
(AVF extreme power 650W)
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Getting a cheap and unreliable PSU = put your PC at risk.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 02:14 PM)
Avoid AVF PSU if possible, go for FSP Hexa+ 400/450W, around RM 150.

Getting a cheap and unreliable PSU = put your PC at risk.
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So in my case, getting a reliable 400W PSU from reputable PSU suppliers is good enough?
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So in my case, getting a reliable 400W PSU from reputable PSU suppliers is good enough?
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True power 350 - 400W is enough smile.gif
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Thanks for recommendation. for this rig, what is my options to upgrade next time if AAA game required better GPU?

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware F3 - RM 129

Total: RM 2039 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 8 2016, 04:56 PM)
Thanks for recommendation. for this rig, what is my options to upgrade next time if AAA game required better GPU?

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware F3 - RM 129

Total: RM 2039 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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If the games requires better GPU then surely go for a more powerful GPU but at the same time, you still have to check if the GPU that you are going to get will be bottlenecked by the CPU or not (i3 in this case).


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 08:45 AM)

RAM can be downgraded to normal one but Skylake does show performance improvements when pairing with high speed RAM, this is normally not the case during DDR3 era, but DDR4, they are  biggrin.gif


Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Just curious about one thing. I've read and seen benchmark which claims that Skylake improve performance with higher speed ram as you said, but most board I see (like one you shown) only lists 2133MHz speed.

http://www.gigabyte.de/products/product-pa...spx?pid=5484#sp

Does it means need to OC so that the board can read let's say 3000MHz ?
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Aug 8 2016, 05:24 PM)
Just curious about one thing. I've read and seen benchmark which claims that Skylake improve performance with higher speed ram as you said, but most board I see (like one you shown) only lists 2133MHz speed.

http://www.gigabyte.de/products/product-pa...spx?pid=5484#sp

Does it means need to OC so that the board can read let's say 3000MHz ?
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Only Z170 mobo allows RAM overclocking, H110/B150/H170 will have the RAM set at base clock of DDR4 (2133MHz) and you cannot overclock it manually.
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Only Z170 mobo allows RAM overclocking, H110/B150/H170 will have the RAM set at base clock of DDR4 (2133MHz) and you cannot overclock it manually.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 05:15 PM)
If the games requires better GPU then surely go for a more powerful GPU but at the same time, you still have to check if the GPU that you are going to get will be bottlenecked by the CPU or not (i3 in this case).
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Thanks rclxms.gif

So to allow room for future expansion, so I better change to better CPU such as Intel Core i5 6500 or greater to cater for more powerful GPU later on when budget allow again?


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Thanks  rclxms.gif

So to allow room for future expansion, so I better change to better CPU such as Intel Core i5 6500 or greater to cater for more powerful GPU later on when budget allow again?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 08:45 AM)
If I were to go for OC build, I won't take 6600K considering DX12 and Vulkan have started to become mature now in games (slowly) and should become the major API for all the upcoming games in next 3 years, this is where the 6700K starts to shine thanks to its multicore. DX12 and Vulkan aim to take advantage of the multicore of the CPU and reduce the CPU overhead for better graphics output performance.

It is just like you have 4 legs (i5) vs 8 legs (i7), no matter how much steroid (OC) you put in 4 legs, it is still very hard to beat the 8 legs, either in speed or efficiency, but then if you cannot fork out extra for the 8 legs (i7), stick with 4 legs (i5), it will work too, regardless of K or non-K, K gives you extra ability to OC it when needed (after several years when Skylake CPU starts to show some bottleneck symptoms like 1st and 2nd gen Intel CPU now).

RAM can be downgraded to normal one but Skylake does show performance improvements when pairing with high speed RAM, this is normally not the case during DDR3 era, but DDR4, they are  biggrin.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1311
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Total: RM 4710 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
Stock reached Malaysia last week, if it hasn't sold out yet then you can get it on the spot.

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Tks so much man appreciate the explanation .
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Hi guys, plan to upgrade my PC by adding a SSD & Ram, budget around Rm500..any idea which SSD & Ram should I get (compatibility wise)?

My current PC spec:

I5 4570
Gigabyte H87-D3H
Team Elite 4gb ram
Zotac 950
FSP 500W
500GB & 1 TB HDD

Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my Mobo..

1. Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 120GB SSD
2. Kingston HyperX Fury 8gb DDR3-1866 or should i just get the 1600 version, price not much difference...

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QUOTE(Gaia34 @ Aug 9 2016, 08:46 AM)
Hi guys, plan to upgrade my PC by adding a SSD & Ram, budget around Rm500..any idea which SSD & Ram should I get (compatibility wise)?

My current PC spec:

I5 4570
Gigabyte H87-D3H
Team Elite 4gb ram
Zotac 950
FSP 500W
500GB & 1 TB HDD

Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my Mobo..

1. Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 120GB SSD
2. Kingston HyperX Fury 8gb DDR3-1866 or should i just get the 1600 version, price not much difference...

Thank you.

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To avoid compatibility issue, try to but the exact same RAM module as mix and match RAM doesn't always guarantee they will work together, since you are going to get a 8GB RAM, if the 4GB doesn't accept the new 8GB, then just drop the 4GB, if they accept each other, you will have 12GB RAM in total.

Pick the one with 1600MHz, your mobo cannot utilize 1866MHz even if you get the 1866MHz due to chipset limitation. You still can pick 1866MHz, just the mobo will downclock the speed to 1600MHz automatically, if your old 4GB RAM is running at 1333MHz, the new RAM will go down further to 1333MHz as well in most of the cases.

The SSD you picked is SATA SSD, just make sure you have a free SATA slot on your mobo and you are good to go. Other cheap alternatives are Kingston UV400 & HyperX Fury & 750 EVO etc.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 9 2016, 10:39 AM)
To avoid compatibility issue, try to but the exact same RAM module as mix and match RAM doesn't always guarantee they will work together, since you are going to get a 8GB RAM, if the 4GB doesn't accept the new 8GB, then just drop the 4GB, if they accept each other, you will have 12GB RAM in total.

Pick the one with 1600MHz, your mobo cannot utilize 1866MHz even if you get the 1866MHz due to chipset limitation. You still can pick 1866MHz, just the mobo will downclock the speed to 1600MHz automatically, if your old 4GB RAM is running at 1333MHz, the new RAM will go down further to 1333MHz as well in most of the cases.

The SSD you picked is SATA SSD, just make sure you have a free SATA slot on your mobo and you are good to go. Other cheap alternatives are Kingston UV400 & HyperX Fury & 750 EVO etc.
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Thanks for your suggestion, fyi, I will remove the 4gb ram & replace it with the 8gb ram, will have a look at the SSDs you suggested. smile.gif
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Heya guys, I'm back again for a build recommendations. This time for a whole rig. Here goes;

[Budget] RM5k, can add a bit more if needed.

[Purpose] Gaming. Wish to upgrade to fhd 144hz soon. Maybe 4k in the future.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Still be using current monitor and peripherals.

[Monitor resolution] FHD60Hz for now, wish to upgrade soonish.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA games (e.g Witcher 3, Rise of Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, FFXIV etc.)

[Personal preferences] intel cpu and nvidia gpu preferable.

[Location] Penang

Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers.

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QUOTE(cressalve @ Aug 9 2016, 11:34 AM)
Heya guys, I'm back again for a build recommendations. This time for a whole rig. Here goes;

[Budget] RM5k, can add a bit more if needed.

[Purpose] Gaming. Wish to upgrade to fhd 144hz soon. Maybe 4k in the future.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Still be using current monitor and peripherals.

[Monitor resolution] FHD60Hz for now, wish to upgrade soonish.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA games (e.g Witcher 3, Rise of Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, FFXIV etc.)

[Personal preferences] intel cpu and nvidia gpu preferable.

[Location] Penang

Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1295
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 489
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 338
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
NZXT S340 - RM 320

Total: RM 5418 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

You can remove the SSD or downgrade to 120GB SSD/8GB RAM one to reduce the total cost.

Case selection is very subjective, you can go with your own preferences, just have to make sure the components (especially mobo & GPU) are compatible.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 9 2016, 02:44 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1295
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 489
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 338
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
NZXT S340 - RM 320

Total: RM 5418 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

You can remove the SSD or downgrade to 120GB SSD/8GB RAM one to reduce the total cost.

Case selection is very subjective, you can go with your own preferences, just have to make sure the components (especially mobo & GPU) are compatible.
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Thanks man. I'll start hunting for the parts. Just in case I can't find the parts here at my place, I wonder if Idealtech or Etech (assuming they have the parts) do delivery? Also, Any significant difference between i7 6700 and i5 6600 in gaming? If the performance is not much of difference, could i switch out to i5 6600? Would save me 300 bucks there heheh
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QUOTE(cressalve @ Aug 9 2016, 04:24 PM)
Thanks man. I'll start hunting for the parts. Just in case I can't find the parts here at my place, I wonder if Idealtech or Etech (assuming they have the parts) do delivery? Also, Any significant difference between i7 6700 and i5 6600 in gaming? If the performance is not much of difference, could i switch out to i5 6600? Would save me 300 bucks there heheh
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Yes, they do have delivery/courier service.

Currently most of the DX11/OpenCL games are still based on the performance of single core (single threaded operation), only few titles are utilizing the extra cores/threads of i7, namely Fallout 4, Hitman 2016 and most of the RTS games (CPU demanding) etc.

I suggested i7 mainly to reduce the CPU bottleneck as much as possible (even i5 can carry on but if you have sneaky background operation ongoing, it hurts the FPS) and more future proof for upcoming DX12/Vulkan titles (less CPU overhead, more cores utilization for better performance).

You can switch to i5, i5 6500 carries the best price/performance ratio among all the i5 models available in Skylake CPU series.
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Hi Sifu,
Please pardon me if this side track. Most of newest games are on Windows 7 or 8...just wonder which OS I should purchase to cater for future demand of upcoming new title?

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I would like to assemble one new desktop with the following specification, in which I would like to have your further recommendation to "improve" the specification:

[Budget] RM 5500 to RM 6000
[Purpose] Main purpose is not for game, but for enterprise software that running on at least 32GB RAM above (now I would like to have 64GB RAM)
[Hardware that will be re-used] Monitor SAMSUNG LED 23.5" S24SF350FHE
[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080 (or above)
[Games & software that use frequently] Enterprise software running one 64GB RAM (I will run on Windows 7 Professional)
[Personal preferences] N/A
[Location] KL, Lowyat


============== I have the following recommendation, Kindly comment, and suggest any other hardware to be recommended:

I7 6800K 3.4GHz - RM1900++
ASUS X99A - RM1400++
16GB RAM DDR4 2133MHz x 4 pieces = RM1110++

128GB SSD Sandisk Z400 - RM210
512GB Transcend SSD 370s - RM650

Cooler Master K282 - RM200
Cooler Master Elite V2 460w PSU - RM179

TOTAL ... around RM5650

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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 9 2016, 05:32 PM)
Hi Sifu,
Please pardon me if this side track. Most of newest games are on Windows 7 or 8...just wonder which OS I should purchase to cater for future demand of upcoming new title?

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Don't worry, Windows 10 has started to become mainstream now and games will support it (in fact old titles are running fine on Windows 10 as well), you get DX12 support in Windows 10 too.

QUOTE(wfwong @ Aug 9 2016, 11:35 PM)
Hi Expert,

I would like to assemble one new desktop with the following specification, in which I would like to have your further recommendation to "improve" the specification:

[Budget] RM 5500 to RM 6000
[Purpose] Main purpose is not for game, but for enterprise software that running on at least 32GB RAM above (now I would like to have 64GB RAM)
[Hardware that will be re-used] Monitor SAMSUNG LED 23.5" S24SF350FHE
[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080 (or above)
[Games & software that use frequently] Enterprise software running one 64GB RAM (I will run on Windows 7 Professional)
[Personal preferences] N/A
[Location] KL, Lowyat
============== I have the following recommendation, Kindly comment, and suggest any other hardware to be recommended:

I7 6800K 3.4GHz - RM1900++
ASUS X99A - RM1400++
16GB RAM DDR4 2133MHz x 4 pieces = RM1110++

128GB SSD Sandisk Z400 - RM210
512GB Transcend SSD 370s - RM650

Cooler Master K282 - RM200
Cooler Master Elite V2 460w PSU - RM179

TOTAL ... around RM5650
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i7 6800K doesn't come with stock cooler because Intel assumes you gonna need to overclock it when you go for X99 platform, so you need to get a cooler for it, if you are planning to overclock the CPU, get a decent cooler for better heat dissipation.

Since you didn't mention the enterprise software that you are going to use, so I cannot determine if more cores > clock speed of single core is better in your case. If the software you use do take advantage of the multicore of the CPU then you can go for Xeon E5 2620 v4 (8C16T) instead of i7 6800K and vice versa, price is about the same.


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Hi sifus im wondering if gtx 960 can play AAA titles at 60+ fps on high settings... thinking about buying that particular card

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Hi sifus im wondering if gtx 960 can play AAA titles at 60+ fps on high settings... thinking about buying that particular card
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Some can some cannot.


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Asked this question before about upgrading the default TIME router (ZTE H298N).

8 users will be sharing the internet (100Mbps) in a condo unit. Gaming and video streaming at the same time with the default router is terrible and the ping will jump to 2000ms++.


Got these 3 routers in mind. Just want to know if paying more will get significant better results in gaming?

Signal strength is important as well as there is one room at the corner (approximately 15 meter from the default router) has trouble getting good download speed using the default router (less than 10 Mbps).

1. TP-Link Archer C7 (RM 400+)
2. Asus AC68U (RM 800+)
3. Asus AC87U (RM 1200+)


From the reviews I read, Asus router has much better user interface and better in dividing bandwidth across devices. Is this true?

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QUOTE(ThE-1cY @ Aug 10 2016, 05:54 PM)
Asked this question before about upgrading the default TIME router (ZTE H298N).

8 users will be sharing the internet (100Mbps) in a condo unit. Gaming and video streaming at the same time with the default router is terrible and the ping will jump to 2000ms++.
Got these 3 routers in mind. Just want to know if paying more will get significant better results in gaming?

Signal strength is important as well as there is one room at the corner (approximately 15 meter from the default router) has trouble getting good download speed using the default router (less than 10 Mbps).

1. TP-Link Archer C7 (RM 400+)
2. Asus AC68U (RM 800+)
3. Asus AC87U (RM 1200+)
From the reviews I read, Asus router has much better user interface and better in dividing bandwidth across devices. Is this true?
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You just missed the cheap AC68U's alternative, the Huawei WS880 tongue.gif

Asus Merlin firmware is nicer than other firmware (other brands), many features are being offered as well including games boost mode, adaptive QoS which you can use to prioritize the traffic to your games, I feel like banging the wall every time I see the green and simple interface of TP-LINK router, too get used Asus already sweat.gif

C7 is able to handle 8 devices at the same time but might have problem when there is a lot of traffics to handle because the latest V2 only comes with a single core CPU. AC68U carries a dual core CPU (800MHz) and is having the similar chipset with the one in WS880 which only costs RM 199 few weeks ago. Another option would be C9, around RM 700 and is even faster than AC68U (1GHz dual core AC 1900).

Changing the router will not guarantee to have significant improvement to gaming as there are many factors that can contribute to bad latency, WiFi band/interference/bandwidth hogger/ISP etc. If you have tested the latency when using LAN cable and found no issue then high chance it can be solved by getting a high end router.


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Hi sifus im wondering if gtx 960 can play AAA titles at 60+ fps on high settings... thinking about buying that particular card
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 10 2016, 10:02 PM)
You just missed the cheap AC68U's alternative, the Huawei WS880  tongue.gif

Asus Merlin firmware is nicer than other firmware (other brands), many features are being offered as well including games boost mode, adaptive QoS which you can use to prioritize the traffic to your games, I feel like banging the wall every time I see the green and simple interface of TP-LINK router, too get used Asus already  sweat.gif

C7 is able to handle 8 devices at the same time but might have problem when there is a lot of traffics to handle because the latest V2 only comes with a single core CPU. AC68U carries a dual core CPU (800MHz) and is having the similar chipset with the one in WS880 which only costs RM 199 few weeks ago. Another option would be C9, around RM 700 and is even faster than AC68U (1GHz dual core AC 1900).

Changing the router will not guarantee to have significant improvement to gaming as there are many factors that can contribute to bad latency, WiFi band/interference/bandwidth hogger/ISP etc. If you have tested the latency when using LAN cable and found no issue then high chance it can be solved by getting a high end router.
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I read abit on the Huawei WS880 thread. It does not have external antennas and I'm not sure if this will affect performance. It is selling for RM299 now...

Guess I will be getting an Asus brand router due to the better interface and the adaptive QoS which looks really simple to use. Does adaptive QoS really work by putting gaming at the highest priority?

Did some research on the internet that there is an actually a C1 revision of Asus AC68U which has 1GHz processor instead of 800MHz. Can we get this in Malaysia?

Btw, what router are you using?

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Hi guys;

I am planning to get a new desktop, and currently is checking on various motherboards.

Some have USB 3.1 port (Type-C), while others have SATA Express; which one is more important or useful?

Also; currently Palit GTX1070 Dual Fan 8G GDDR5 is the cheapest gtx 1070. I'm interested but can't find any major reviews on it; is it quiet enough during gaming? how about thermal performance?

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QUOTE(ThE-1cY @ Aug 11 2016, 12:03 AM)
I read abit on the Huawei WS880 thread. It does not have external antennas and I'm not sure if this will affect performance. It is selling for RM299 now...

Guess I will be getting an Asus brand router due to the better interface and the adaptive QoS which looks really simple to use. Does adaptive QoS really work by putting gaming at the highest priority?

Did some research on the internet that there is an actually a C1 revision of Asus AC68U which has 1GHz processor instead of 800MHz. Can we get this in Malaysia?

Btw, what router are you using?
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It has 6 internal antennas, so far the review from WS880 thread is quite positive, it is a cheap alternative with the same chipset that is shipped with AC68U, I don't think anyone would complain too much biggrin.gif

I rarely play any online games so I cannot guarantee the adaptive QoS will work well for all situations, just ensure that you set a range of bandwidth which is dedicated for gaming port then you are good to go.

You need to check with local store for C1 revision stock availability, some stores are still keeping the old stock and they will try to clear their old stock first, just make sure you are allowed to check the revision number if you were to buy one. Usually the sticker which contains the barcode and stuffs will have the revision number written on it, if not please check the specifications printed on the box.

I am using Asus RT-AC3200 currently.

QUOTE(retsnom @ Aug 11 2016, 12:09 AM)
Hi guys;

I am planning to get a new desktop, and currently is checking on various motherboards.

Some have USB 3.1 port (Type-C), while others have SATA Express; which one is more important or useful?

Also; currently Palit GTX1070 Dual Fan 8G GDDR5 is the cheapest gtx 1070. I'm interested but can't find any major reviews on it; is it quiet enough during gaming? how about thermal performance?
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Type C is more important to me, smartphones (Nexus 6P/5X, Note 7, Mi5 etc) have started to use type C port while SATA Express is unlucky to have short lifespan due to the takeover from M.2, it is very hard to find anything new with SATA Express port nowadays, people and manufacturers prefer M.2 interface for their SSD product (either SATA or PCIe). But you can get a mobo with these two features included if you want.

As you said, no review online for the dual fan model so it is very hard to us to determine the noise level and temperature of the card too, try to find someone with the card in Nvidia GPU thread in Hardware Club subforum. If you aren't sitting too close to your rig then no need to worry about the noise, the sound of the games can fully cover the sound of the GPU already laugh.gif

Considering the FE blower cooler still able to survive in Malaysia, I guess the Palit dual fan version will work fine too, I am using Zotac AMP version which is also a dual fan model, the temperature is fine and hardly go over 70°C except when I run benchmark tools on it.
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1) So if i plug in smartphone or tablet, i could transfer files faster on usb 3.1 compared to 3.0?

2)Could usb 3.1 also charge up mobile devices faster?

3)I always use wireless internet connection, so when selecting a motherboard, mobo's LAN chipset such as Realtek/Killer/Intel GBe LAN doesn't matter right?

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QUOTE(retsnom @ Aug 11 2016, 12:10 PM)
1) So if i plug in smartphone or tablet, i could transfer files faster on usb 3.1 compared to 3.0?

2)Could usb 3.1 also charge up mobile devices faster?

3)I always use wireless internet connection, so when selecting a motherboard, mobo's LAN chipset such as Realtek/Killer/Intel GBe LAN doesn't matter right?
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If the USB Type C port on the phone itself is USB 2.0 (like Nexus 6P and 5X) then it will follow USB 2.0 Type C standard speed and vice versa.

USB 3.0 and 3.1 carry the same power 4.5W (5V, 0.9A) so charging speed will be the same (for non Type C port), what matters the most is the specification of the USB Type C port (devices and the connectors), there are few revisions already since the launch of USB Type C and the basic 1.0 and 1.1 can output 3A (5V) without the aid of USB PD, this is commonly used on most of the smartphones. PD stands for Power Delivery and it is required for Type C 2.0 standard, both devices exchange the info via the connector's pin and the correct configurations will be applied based on the power acceptance level of the devices (up to 20V 5A) to prevent any excessive power delivery which might cause permanent damage.

Yes, if you use WiFi only, then LAN doesn't really matter that much, but Intel LAN is more preferred for LAN users.


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Any good mini ITX casing and motherboard(H110) recommendations?

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 10 2016, 10:02 PM)
You just missed the cheap AC68U's alternative, the Huawei WS880  tongue.gif

Asus Merlin firmware is nicer than other firmware (other brands), many features are being offered as well including games boost mode, adaptive QoS which you can use to prioritize the traffic to your games, I feel like banging the wall every time I see the green and simple interface of TP-LINK router, too get used Asus already  sweat.gif

C7 is able to handle 8 devices at the same time but might have problem when there is a lot of traffics to handle because the latest V2 only comes with a single core CPU. AC68U carries a dual core CPU (800MHz) and is having the similar chipset with the one in WS880 which only costs RM 199 few weeks ago. Another option would be C9, around RM 700 and is even faster than AC68U (1GHz dual core AC 1900).

Changing the router will not guarantee to have significant improvement to gaming as there are many factors that can contribute to bad latency, WiFi band/interference/bandwidth hogger/ISP etc. If you have tested the latency when using LAN cable and found no issue then high chance it can be solved by getting a high end router.
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tell me more about this recent WS880 RM 199? now only 1 lelong seller for RM400
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QUOTE(ThE-1cY @ Aug 11 2016, 12:03 AM)
I read abit on the Huawei WS880 thread. It does not have external antennas and I'm not sure if this will affect performance. It is selling for RM299 now...

Guess I will be getting an Asus brand router due to the better interface and the adaptive QoS which looks really simple to use. Does adaptive QoS really work by putting gaming at the highest priority?

Did some research on the internet that there is an actually a C1 revision of Asus AC68U which has 1GHz processor instead of 800MHz. Can we get this in Malaysia?

Btw, what router are you using?
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what about this Xiaomi Mi Router 3 AC
MT7620A processor, 128MB SLC Nand Flash ROM, 128MB DDR2 RAM: Stable and reliable.
http://www.11street.my/productdetail/xiaom...design-18645751
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replacement toner must be cheap
full duplex or copier is nice but not necessary but would be willing to pay extra if its not too expensive.

previously saw lots of people recomend i think its a fuji or xerox unit, now discontinued, i think the printer was around RM200 and the replacement toners were very very cheap like RM50
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[Monitor resolution] full HD 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] current game

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QUOTE(wallacetan @ Aug 11 2016, 06:08 PM)
Any good mini ITX casing and motherboard(H110) recommendations?
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If you can state a budget range then it will be easier for me to recommend biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Aug 11 2016, 06:19 PM)
tell me more about this recent WS880 RM 199? now only 1 lelong seller for RM400
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Sri Computer @LYP was trying to clear the stock of this WS880 router few weeks ago at RM 199 only, someone spotted it, bought it and posted in Networking subforum and Kopitiam, then it created a mass stock "sapu" madness.

It has the similar chipset as the one in Asus AC68U, definitely a steal for such pricing, it makes Asus router looks so overpriced, well in fact it is laugh.gif

QUOTE(intel2010 @ Aug 11 2016, 06:38 PM)
[B][Budget] 3k-3.5k

[Purpose] gaming & office work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Build New one

[Monitor resolution] full HD 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] current game

[Personal preferences]

27inch Monitor
Speaker Logitech Z623
mouse & keyboard wireless
prefer intel but amd also okay,

[Location] KLang valley

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27" 1080p monitor costs at least RM 750 while Z623 costs RM 600+, are you sure you gonna get them with your budget? You have to sacrifice a lot on the components/hardware if you really go for this path.

I suggest you to get a 24" 1080p monitor + cheap 2.1 speakers first and spend the rest of the budget on the components of the rig.
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If you can state a budget range then it will be easier for me to recommend  biggrin.gif
Sri Computer @LYP was trying to clear the stock of this WS880 router few weeks ago at RM 199 only, someone spotted it, bought it and posted in Networking subforum and Kopitiam, then it created a mass stock "sapu" madness.

It has the similar chipset as the one in Asus AC68U, definitely a steal for such pricing, it makes Asus router looks so overpriced, well in fact it is  laugh.gif
27" 1080p monitor costs at least RM 750 while Z623 costs RM 600+, are you sure you gonna get them with your budget? You have to sacrifice a lot on the components/hardware if you really go for this path.

I suggest you to get a 24" 1080p monitor + cheap 2.1 speakers first and spend the rest of the budget on the components of the rig.
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i help my friend build the pc, he said he want that item, agree with u 27inch pricey. how about replace 27 to 24 inch. but remain the speacker
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CPU: Core i5 4460
Motherboard: Asus H97 Pro Gamer
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master V6GT
RAM: HyperX Fury 8GB
GPU: Leadtek 980 Hurricance OC
PSU: Cooler Master 750 Watt
SSD: Kingston Hyper 3K 240GB
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 7200RPM
Monitor: Dell 2740L


Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my current spec.

1. Palit GameRock Palit GTX1080(SRP RM2999) (cheapest i can get on the market now)
2. Monitor that support up to 4K 60Hertz(Need some advice on which brand -24" or 27" will do)

Will it bottleneck if using same processor & mobo?

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If you can state a budget range then it will be easier for me to recommend  biggrin.gif
for casing, any good one you know that's with handle? well, if too expensive then i would probably get cm elite 110, just saying

for motherboard, if i am going to use integrated graphics, i would want higher maximum memory shared.

gigabytes motherboard usually only has 512mb shared

asus ones have 512mb and 1024mb

msi didn't really state on their website, but i think should be 1024mb

asrock, however is 1792mb with wifi module summore
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813157687
EDIT: I have checked asrock website and it shows only 1024mb, most customers complain about the wifi antenna, i guess this is not what i want after all.

i just need some opinions, or any better motherboard?

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QUOTE(intel2010 @ Aug 11 2016, 08:07 PM)
i help my friend build the pc, he said he want that item, agree with u 27inch pricey. how about replace 27 to 24 inch. but remain the speacker
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I would advise you to drop the speaker and get a 27 inch instead if this is the path you want to go, the speaker itself is a 2.1 speaker and doesn't worth its full price at all.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 729
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 299
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 154
Gigabyte GTX950 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
ATX/mATX casing ~ RM 150
BenQ GW2460 - RM 469
Logitech Z623 - RM 729

Total: RM 3627 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

If without the overpriced speaker, you can get at least a RX470.

QUOTE(PsychoHDxMachine @ Aug 11 2016, 08:09 PM)
My current PC spec:

CPU: Core i5 4460
Motherboard: Asus H97 Pro Gamer
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master V6GT
RAM: HyperX Fury 8GB
GPU: Leadtek 980 Hurricance OC
PSU: Cooler Master 750 Watt
SSD: Kingston Hyper 3K 240GB
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 7200RPM
Monitor: Dell 2740L
Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my current spec.

1. Palit GameRock Palit GTX1080(SRP RM2999) (cheapest i can get on the market now)
2. Monitor that support up to 4K 60Hertz(Need some advice on which brand -24" or 27" will do)

Will it bottleneck if using same processor & mobo?
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Some games yes some games no, if the games itself requires fast single core clock speed or utilize multicore then bottleneck will happen.

Samsung U28E590DS 4K 60Hz TN FreeSync - RM 1899
Dell P2415Q 4K 60Hz IPS - RM 1899
Dell S2817Q 4K 60Hz TN - RM 1935
Acer Predator XB280HK 4K 60Hz TN GSync - RM 2499
Philips BDM4350UC 4K 60Hz IPS - RM 2599

I will go for Acer Predator GSync over all the other monitors anytime, 4K is an insane resolution to drive, even with GTX1080 and you won't have stable 60 FPS, GSync is here to help biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wallacetan @ Aug 11 2016, 08:28 PM)
for casing, any good one you know that's with handle? well, if too expensive then i would probably get cm elite 110, just saying

for motherboard, if i am going to use integrated graphics, i would want higher maximum memory shared.

gigabytes motherboard usually only has 512mb shared

asus ones have 512mb and 1024mb

msi didn't really state on their website, but i think should be 1024mb

asrock, however is 1792mb with wifi module summore
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813157687
EDIT: I have checked asrock website and it shows only 1024mb, most customers complain about the wifi antenna, i guess this is not what i want after all.

i just need some opinions, or any better motherboard?
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Since still no specific budget range stated, I will just go with what I can.

CM Elite 110 and 130 - suitable for low budget build, if no dedicated GPU is going to be installed like your case, go for Elite 110, small and easy to carry around.

ASRock H110M-ITX/ac is not available in Malaysia, we only have the non AC version. If you don't need a WiFi card, you can get the non AC version (H110M-ITX), price is around RM 350. You can get a WiFi adapter for wireless connection with either USB dongle or PCIe adapter to pair with the ASRock mobo, USB dongle is much cheaper than PCIe card.
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Samsung U28E590DS 4K 60Hz TN FreeSync - RM 1899
Dell P2415Q 4K 60Hz IPS - RM 1899
Dell S2817Q 4K 60Hz TN - RM 1935
Acer Predator XB280HK 4K 60Hz TN GSync - RM 2499
Philips BDM4350UC 4K 60Hz IPS - RM 2599

I will go for Acer Predator GSync over all the other monitors anytime, 4K is an insane resolution to drive, even with GTX1080 and you won't have stable 60 FPS, GSync is here to help biggrin.gif
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If like this, which processor and mobo should i go?
Processor I5 should be more enough?
How about mobo? Cos I might go for SLI for GTX1080 next year when the price is going down.
But normally 1 card better than SLI? If not mistaken from "google search"
Acer Predator GSync already Rm3.2k alone.


Another question is 1440p/144hz and 4k/60hz. which one is preferable? because my town areas dont have 4k even 2k monitor to test for gaming. is this really big different? or should i stick with 1440p 144hz with gtx1080?

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If like this, which processor and mobo should i go? 
Processor I5 should be more enough?
How about mobo? Cos I might go for SLI for GTX1080 next year when the price is going down.
But normally 1 card better than SLI? If not mistaken from "google search"
Acer Predator GSync already Rm3.2k alone.
Another question is 1440p/144hz and 4k/60hz. which one is preferable? because my town areas dont have 4k even 2k monitor to test for gaming. is this really big different? or should i stick with 1440p 144hz with gtx1080?
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Just find an i7 4790 or Xeon E3 1231 V3, no need to get new mobo or upgrade to Skylake, it is not worth at all, the performance gain is too little.

Price for the current gen GPU won't go down so soon unless our beloved PM lower down the GST rate or our currency strengthen against USD magically in short period of time which is unlikely to happen.

Single card is always better than SLI, SLI requires SLI ready mobo, SLI ready PSU and you need to deal with lots of SLI profiles and bad scaling issues, wait for GTX1080Ti instead of you want to go for GTX1080 SLI, the raw performance of GTX1080Ti is unable to beat GTX1080 SLI for sure but at least you get better performance on single card when the games itself is having zero SLI support or bad scaling.

Acer Predator XB281HK is the 4K monitor you need to look for (I listed above, the RM 2499 one), the 3.2k one is XB271HU which is a 1440p 144Hz monitor.

Edit: I will go with 1440p 144Hz instead of 4K 60Hz now simply because the power of the current gen GPU is still unable to provide a solid 60 FPS in 4K resolution without any compromise. 27" for 1440p is perfect, 4K on a 28" isn't my cup of tea sweat.gif

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Just find an i7 4790 or Xeon E3 1231 V3, no need to get new mobo or upgrade to Skylake, it is not worth at all, the performance gain is too little.

Price for the current gen GPU won't go down so soon unless our beloved PM lower down the GST rate or our currency strengthen against USD magically in short period of time which is unlikely to happen.

Single card is always better than SLI, SLI requires SLI ready mobo, SLI ready PSU and you need to deal with lots of SLI profiles and bad scaling issues, wait for GTX1080Ti instead of you want to go for GTX1080 SLI, the raw performance of GTX1080Ti is unable to beat GTX1080 SLI for sure but at least you get better performance on single card when the games itself is having zero SLI support or bad scaling.

Acer Predator XB281HK is the 4K monitor you need to look for (I listed above, the RM 2499 one), the 3.2k one is XB271HU which is a 1440p 144Hz monitor.

Edit: I will go with 1440p 144Hz instead of 4K 60Hz now simply because the power of the current gen GPU is still unable to provide a solid 60 FPS in 4K resolution without any compromise. 27" for 1440p is perfect, 4K on a 28" isn't my cup of tea  sweat.gif
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I see, so conclusion go for palit 1080 and xb271hu will be enough? Is it compulsory to change to i7 4790 instead of i5 4460? Bottleneck? My mobo will be ok? Based on your current spec on gtx1070 with the monitor you using(acer) how's the performance?

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I see, so conclusion go for palit 1080 and xb271hu will be enough? Is it compulsory  to change to i7 4790 instead of i5 4460? Bottleneck? My mobo will be ok? Based on your current spec on gtx1070 with the monitor you using(acer) how's the performance?
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Up to you, you need to fork out extra RM 700+ for XB271HU though, if you are ok with this then I highly recommend you to go for this upgrade path.

It is not compulsory to change the i5 to i7, i5 can drive GTX1080 well too, bottleneck only occurs when the games you play is too CPU demanding which holds back the full potential of the GPU. Mobo is fine as long as you have a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot.

I switched from GTX980Ti to GTX1070 before the massive price drop on new GTX980Ti and GTX1070 is basically packing the performance of GTX980Ti so yeah, the performance in terms of FPS is roughly the same but at much lower power consumption.

The monitor itself is awesome, it is the cheapest 1440p IPS monitor with GSync feature in Malaysia and you can overclock it to 165Hz officially too (under warranty protection) but one thing you need to take note is the backlight bleeding issue, backlight bleeding is common on IPS monitor and very hard to get a perfect unit, my unit has slight bleeding on top left, it is not visible from normal use though, I can only notice it when I switch off all the lights and turn the screen to dark mode (or dark wallpaper), I believe the new revision has better QC now because two of my friends who bought it last month have no bleeding issue.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 11 2016, 09:56 PM)
Since still no specific budget range stated, I will just go with what I can.

CM Elite 110 and 130 - suitable for low budget build, if no dedicated GPU is going to be installed like your case, go for Elite 110, small and easy to carry around.

ASRock H110M-ITX/ac is not available in Malaysia, we only have the non AC version. If you don't need a WiFi card, you can get the non AC version (H110M-ITX), price is around RM 350. You can get a WiFi adapter for wireless connection with either USB dongle or PCIe adapter to pair with the ASRock mobo, USB dongle is much cheaper than PCIe card.
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I'm sorry for not stating the budget, I meant for getting a good one rather than a specific budget

Any other brand to recommend?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 12 2016, 12:39 AM)
Up to you, you need to fork out extra RM 700+ for XB271HU though, if you are ok with this then I highly recommend you to go for this upgrade path.

It is not compulsory to change the i5 to i7, i5 can drive GTX1080 well too, bottleneck only occurs when the games you play is too CPU demanding which holds back the full potential of the GPU. Mobo is fine as long as you have a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot.

I switched from GTX980Ti to GTX1070 before the massive price drop on new GTX980Ti and GTX1070 is basically packing the performance of GTX980Ti so yeah, the performance in terms of FPS is roughly the same but at much lower power consumption.

The monitor itself is awesome, it is the cheapest 1440p IPS monitor with GSync feature in Malaysia and you can overclock it to 165Hz officially too (under warranty protection) but one thing you need to take note is the backlight bleeding issue, backlight bleeding is common on IPS monitor and very hard to get a perfect unit, my unit has slight bleeding on top left, it is not visible from normal use though, I can only notice it when I switch off all the lights and turn the screen to dark mode (or dark wallpaper), I believe the new revision has better QC now because two of my friends who bought it last month have no bleeding issue.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(wallacetan @ Aug 11 2016, 11:48 PM)
I'm sorry for not stating the budget, I meant for getting a good one rather than a specific budget

Any other brand to recommend?
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Asus H110i-PLUS
MSI H110i PRO AC

Both below RM 400.
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Asus H110i-PLUS
MSI H110i PRO AC

Both below RM 400.
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Where can I find MSI H110I PRO AC? Any carrier?
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QUOTE(wallacetan @ Aug 12 2016, 11:20 AM)
Where can I find MSI H110I PRO AC? Any carrier?
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Saw someone posted the picture of this mobo model few months ago here, but not sure if it is in V10/V11 or Buy Club thread, but H110 with onboard WiFi card is very rarely in Malaysia, same thing happened on last gen's H81 as well, need at least B150(B85) or H170(H97) for that hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 9 2016, 04:40 PM)
Yes, they do have delivery/courier service.

Currently most of the DX11/OpenCL games are still based on the performance of single core (single threaded operation), only few titles are utilizing the extra cores/threads of i7, namely Fallout 4, Hitman 2016 and most of the RTS games (CPU demanding) etc.

I suggested i7 mainly to reduce the CPU bottleneck as much as possible (even i5 can carry on but if you have sneaky background operation ongoing, it hurts the FPS) and more future proof for upcoming DX12/Vulkan titles (less CPU overhead, more cores utilization for better performance).

You can switch to i5, i5 6500 carries the best price/performance ratio among all the i5 models available in Skylake CPU series.
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Hey man, I'm getting the rig next week. Just to add, I've checked the mobo you suggested and it supported 2133Mhz ram. So that means If I were to get performance ram it wouldn't be much of difference I guess? Also, Idealtech got a new Gigabyte GTX1070 Windforce OC with the same price as the GPU you suggested. I suppose it's a better choice as it is a pre-OC card. I heard pascal card can autoboost itself if power and temperature allows it. So is pre-OC card really necessary?
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QUOTE(cressalve @ Aug 12 2016, 12:14 PM)
Hey man, I'm getting the rig next week. Just to add, I've checked the mobo you suggested and it supported 2133Mhz ram. So that means If I were to get  performance ram it wouldn't be much of difference I guess? Also, Idealtech got a new Gigabyte GTX1070 Windforce OC with the same price as the GPU you suggested. I suppose it's a better choice as it is a pre-OC card. I heard pascal card can autoboost itself if power and temperature allows it. So is pre-OC card really necessary?
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You can swap to other brands as you wish, no restriction on this.

Pascal comes with GPU Boost 3.0 technology, Maxwell had this as well but with the older 2.0 generation. This boost technology works or stacks on top of your current clock speed so you don't have to worry it will be a waste to get pre-OC'ed GPU.

For example, Windforce OC model comes with a boost clock speed of 1771MHz, but when you use RivaTuner overlay or EVGA Precision X overlay to check the speed, you will notice it goes beyond the 1771MHz limit automatically? Why, it is because of the Boost 3.0 technology, you might see 1850MHz (more or less) when the temperature allows.

Pre-OC'ed card is good for those who are lazy to fine tune their GPU or afraid of taking the risk of blowing up their card when something goes wrong because the advertised OC'ed speed is always safe to use (under warranty protection).
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[B][Budget] 2.5k

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 19" or 21 "

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota 2

[Personal preferences] able to play dota 2 on high setting with 60fps

[Location]
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QUOTE(mimiy1 @ Aug 12 2016, 02:52 PM)
[B][Budget] 2.5k

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 19" or 21 "

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota 2

[Personal preferences] able to play dota 2 on high setting with 60fps

[Location]
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 473
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Zotac GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 620
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2270H - RM 397

Total: RM 2509 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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terence_nwb

Why are you not ts?
The current ts does nothing,

I vote you to be the next TS,
So you can update the first page with FAQ with useful info.
as you keep answering same questions

List the below usefull info ===============
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

EG Grapahics card ===============

Budget RM300-400
if possible Get i3-6100 with 530 equivalent to 740 or r7 250

Budget RM500
750ti, or 260x
for lol, dota2, csgo

Budget RM700 get 460 or 950
For FHD gaming in 40-60fps
etc.....

Rig selection by price ===============
PC budged RM1200
CPU G4400
etc....

Optional upgrade.
SSD
alternative mobo
etc...

PC Budget RM1500
CPU i3-6100

Optional upgrade
ssd
alternative mobo
optional downgrade if using GPU
i3-6098P



SSD section ===============
common ssd to choose
budget
RM150 = 128gb kingston k400
RM250 = 256gb kingston k400

mid range
samsung 850 evo

PSU section ===============
RM125 = cm
RM145 = FSP
RM250 = etc...

mobo section ===============
etc...

CPU section ===============
RM22 = Pentium
RM450 = i3
RM700 = i5
etc...

Monitor section ===============
basic
RM300 ....

gaming freesync, 144 ghz etc...

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[B][Budget] below 2000

[Purpose] Gaming, design + video editing (mainly)"

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Overwatch, Dota, cs go, Adobe photoshop, Adobe premiere pro, After effect

[Personal preferences] limitation budget

[Location] KL
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Nah, I don't want to manage another thread already, I had enough of them, people don't bother to read first page anyway, they prefer to ask here straightaway, if you have any useful info to add, just PM TS directly, I am pretty sure he will add them when he got free time.

QUOTE(lchao21288 @ Aug 13 2016, 03:30 AM)
[B][Budget] below 2000

[Purpose] Gaming, design + video editing (mainly)"

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Overwatch, Dota, cs go, Adobe photoshop, Adobe premiere pro, After effect

[Personal preferences] limitation budget

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 473
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 470
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 1940 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Apparently NZXT S340 casing has been selling like hot cakes, Idealtech is out of stock and it would take sometime to new shipment to come in.

terence_nwb, do you have another suggestion or a casing with similar design like S340 with the PSU shroud and good cable management with the same budget? Thanks.
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QUOTE(cressalve @ Aug 13 2016, 11:33 AM)
Apparently NZXT S340 casing has been selling like hot cakes, Idealtech is out of stock and it would take sometime to new shipment to come in.

terence_nwb, do you have another suggestion or a casing with similar design like S340 with the PSU shroud and good cable management with the same budget? Thanks.
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CM MasterBox 5, around RM 400.

Phanteks Enthoo Pro M, around RM 380 (not available at Idealtech).

Or get S340 from other shop if you want to keep within the same budget.
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Hi, Need help with suggestion

[B][Budget] as cheap as possible, <1k

[Purpose] light browsing, video streaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 22" Monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] IE, Mozilla, Chrome

Personal Pref - maybe an SSD?

[Location]KL

Im thinking of the below.

CELERON G1840 1150 2.80 3MB 179
H81MHV3 INTEL 1150 179
Adata Value Ram 79
Transcend SSD 220 SERIES 159
HEXA+ SERIES 400W 159
Cheap casing - rm50

Total - 805

Note : or should i go with AMD as below?


SEMPRON 2650 2-cores AM1 1.45 2MB 139
AM1M-A AMD AM1 175
Adata Value Ram 79
Transcend SSD 220 SERIES 159
HEXA+ SERIES 400W 159
Cheap casing - rm50

Total - 761

** cheaper casing or PSU also can, but i dont want my hardware to be fried bc of the psu



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hi terrence

psu mod

im thinking of modding a old free psu to power DC stuff like cordless drill or a dc fan, dc motor,

if my psu has 2x 12V rails but are say 15A each (each rail will provide 180W) that should be enough, but to be safer can i loop both 12 v rail together in parallel? so it will be 360W ie 12V with max 30A?

or is it possible to put 2x old psu in parallel each psu only has 1x 12v 15A? combine then together 12V and 30A max

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QUOTE(kunang @ Aug 13 2016, 02:00 PM)
Hi, Need help with suggestion

[B][Budget] as cheap as possible, <1k

[Purpose] light browsing, video streaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 22" Monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] IE, Mozilla, Chrome

Personal Pref - maybe an SSD?

[Location]KL

Im thinking of the below.

CELERON G1840 1150 2.80 3MB 179
H81MHV3 INTEL 1150 179
Adata Value Ram 79
Transcend SSD 220 SERIES 159
HEXA+ SERIES 400W 159
Cheap casing - rm50

Total - 805

Note : or should i go with AMD as below?
SEMPRON 2650 2-cores AM1 1.45 2MB 139
AM1M-A AMD AM1 175
Adata Value Ram 79
Transcend SSD 220 SERIES 159
HEXA+ SERIES 400W 159
Cheap casing - rm50

Total - 761

** cheaper casing or PSU also can, but i dont want my hardware to be fried bc of the psu
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First option is better.

QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Aug 13 2016, 02:02 PM)
hi terrence

psu mod

im thinking of modding a old free psu to power DC stuff like cordless drill or a dc fan, dc motor,

if my psu has 2x 12V rails but are say 15A each (each rail will provide 180W) that should be enough, but to be safer can i loop both 12 v rail together in parallel? so it will be 360W ie 12V with max 30A?

or is it possible to put 2x old psu in parallel each psu only has 1x 12v 15A? combine then together 12V and 30A max
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I am not 100% sure on this so I searched the info online, and the answer can be found on the Internet, have a search.
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Hello sifus semua, i am planning to get a custom build PC in the near future. I am totally a noob in this pc rigging stuffs sweat.gif Hoping to get recommendation at here.

[B][Budget] RM2000(exclude monitor)

[Purpose] Mainly for Gaming, Pics and Video editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] Planning to get 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CSGO, Dirty Bomb, Overwatch (if possible that the rig able to handle it at decent frame rate rclxms.gif ) Sony Vegas Pro, Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom and little bit of After Effects

[Personal preferences] I need Wifi access in the rig.

[Location] Melaka

Advice me please and thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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[Purpose] Gaming (With programming as a side dish for my college XD)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1280 x 1024 (Currently, planning to buy a new monitor as well)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] I don't really know. My computer's 9 years old and can barely play any games without extreme lag, so there is very few games i can ever play frequently

[Personal preferences] None as long as it can outperform my current PC many, many times over

[Location] Johor Bahru

This is my planned setup just in case as i was suggested by adilz to put it up here too!:
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how much big performance between i5 1155, i5 1150 and i5 1151 ? not a overclocker here.

currently I'm using i3 1155

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how much big performance between i5 1155, i5 1150 and i5 1151 ? not a overclocker here.
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[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] current AAA games

[Personal preferences] Mini itx with hdmi port , 21~24inch monitor, gtx 10xx

[Location] -
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[B][Budget] RM3000 to RM3200 ( RIG + LCD )

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Fallout 4, XCOM2, Witcher

[Personal preferences] Built in WiFi

[Location] Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(xxQue_Sera_Seraxx @ Aug 13 2016, 11:24 PM)
Hello sifus semua, i am planning to get a custom build PC in the near future. I am totally a noob in this pc rigging stuffs  sweat.gif Hoping to get recommendation at here.

[B][Budget] RM2000(exclude monitor)

[Purpose] Mainly for Gaming, Pics and Video editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] Planning to get  1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CSGO, Dirty Bomb, Overwatch (if possible that the rig able to handle it at decent frame rate rclxms.gif )  Sony Vegas Pro, Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom and little bit of After Effects

[Personal preferences] I need Wifi access in the rig.

[Location] Melaka

Advice me please and thanks in advance  biggrin.gif
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Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2008 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Cookz @ Aug 14 2016, 12:54 AM)
[Budget] RM3000

[Purpose] Gaming (With programming as a side dish for my college XD)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1280 x 1024 (Currently, planning to buy a new monitor as well)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] I don't really know. My computer's 9 years old and can barely play any games without extreme lag, so there is very few games i can ever play frequently

[Personal preferences] None as long as it can outperform my current PC many, many times over

[Location] Johor Bahru

This is my planned setup just in case as i was suggested by adilz to put it up here too!:
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I assume 3k is just for the rig and you have a separate budget for the new monitor if you are going to change it at the same time.

This is a "all-in" build which aims to get the best gaming performance out of your budget.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3011 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

This is a more "balanced" build with SSD included.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Sapphire RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ - RM 989
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3049 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If I were you, I will go for first option since SSD can be added separately later on when we have extra funds for that.

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how much big performance between i5 1155, i5 1150 and i5 1151 ? not a overclocker here.
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Around 5 to 10% improvement per generation.

QUOTE(filcokb @ Aug 14 2016, 10:33 AM)
[B][Budget] 4k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] current AAA games

[Personal preferences] Mini itx with hdmi port , 21~24inch monitor, gtx 10xx

[Location] -
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
CM Elite 130 - RM 178
BenQ GW2270H - RM 397

Total: RM 4044 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ Aug 14 2016, 12:13 PM)
[B][Budget] RM3000 to RM3200 ( RIG + LCD )

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Fallout 4, XCOM2, Witcher

[Personal preferences] Built in WiFi

[Location] Kuala Lumpur
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Sapphire RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ - RM 989
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2270H - RM 397

Total: RM 3157 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 14 2016, 03:20 PM)
I assume 3k is just for the rig and you have a separate budget for the new monitor if you are going to change it at the same time.

This is a "all-in" build which aims to get the best gaming performance out of your budget.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3011 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

This is a more "balanced" build with SSD included.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Sapphire RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ - RM 989
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3049 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If I were you, I will go for first option since SSD can be added separately later on when we have extra funds for that.
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Well, the monitor is included together with the RM3000 budget.

For the SSD, i am buying separately from my budget since they've been getting cheaper these days and easy to get despite the amount of space they can hold, so i have no problem buying it separately.

Otherwise, the rest is absolutely fine for me although the GPU is a little bit pricey, going up to RM1200+ although its performance is really good compared to lower series.

I'm going for the 1st option, since again, i am going to buy SSD separately from my budget. But thank you very much for your help and taking your time to respond!
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budget: 3k only cpu (monitor/kibot excluded)
purpose: student, 3d rendering & multimedia (VR)
eg software: 3ds max, unity, sketchup, adobe photoshop, illustrator etc..
location: KL

so far I being recommended with

(1)
CPU : Intel Core i5 6400
MOBO : Assock H110M-HDV
RAM : Kingston 8Gb DDR4
GPU : Palit GTX960 2GD5
Casing : Segotep
PSU : XFive 500W PSU
HDD : Toshiba 1TB HDD
Wifi : D'link PCIe N300 Wireless card

Total : RM2820

(2)
CORE I5 6500 (4C/4T) 1151 3.0 3.6 6M RM822
ASUS H110M-D 1151 H110 M RM329
RAIDEN SERIES 2666MHZ 4GBx2 RM456
SEAGATE DESKTOP SSHD 1TB RM286
GALAX GTX960 2GB D5 EXOC WHITE RM999
550W ELITE V2 POWER RM235
OMRADE ATX CASING RM179
Mouse and Keyboard RM194

Total RM3500(May differ according to shops)

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now i'm in dilemma for GPU.

RX480 or GTX1060.

got budget for both but i dont want an overkill GPU coz im not gaming alot. but when i do, i expect a smooth experience.
probably playing DOTA,Witcher 3,Batman Arkham series,Metro,Dragonball Xenoverse..
expect at least i can play game without hiccup for another 2years.
GTX1060 is much higher priced compared to RX480. but i saw some version that are below RM1300, is it better than RX480?
coz ASUS GTX1060 can go up to rm1.8k

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budget: 3k only cpu (monitor/kibot excluded)
purpose: student, 3d rendering & multimedia (VR)
eg software: 3ds max, unity, sketchup, adobe photoshop, illustrator etc..
location: KL

so far I being recommended with

(1)
CPU : Intel Core i5 6400
MOBO : Assock H110M-HDV
RAM : Kingston 8Gb DDR4
GPU : Palit GTX960 2GD5
Casing : Segotep
PSU : XFive 500W PSU
HDD : Toshiba 1TB HDD
Wifi : D'link PCIe N300 Wireless card

Total : RM2820

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CORE I5 6500 (4C/4T) 1151 3.0 3.6 6M RM822
ASUS H110M-D 1151 H110 M             RM329
RAIDEN SERIES 2666MHZ 4GBx2          RM456
SEAGATE DESKTOP SSHD 1TB             RM286
GALAX GTX960 2GB D5 EXOC WHITE       RM999
550W ELITE V2 POWER        RM235
OMRADE ATX CASING                  RM179
Mouse and Keyboard                   RM194

Total                                RM3500(May differ according to shops)
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX OC - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 119
BenQ GW2270 - RM 379
Logitech Wired MK200 Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 2948 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(sOuLx @ Aug 14 2016, 09:19 PM)
now i'm in dilemma for GPU.

RX480 or GTX1060.

got budget for both but i dont want an overkill GPU coz im not gaming alot. but when i do, i expect a smooth experience.
probably playing DOTA,Witcher 3,Batman Arkham series,Metro,Dragonball Xenoverse..
expect at least i can play game without hiccup for another 2years.
GTX1060 is much higher priced compared to RX480. but i saw some version that are below RM1300, is it better than RX480?
coz ASUS GTX1060 can go up to rm1.8k
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Well TBH Palit and Zotac GTX1060 are cheaper than RX480 reference card, just don't look at Asus ridiculous pricing on their Strix series sweat.gif

RX480 aftermarket version, i.e. Sapphire Nitro+, PowerColor Red Devil both cost around RM 1450, GTX1060 Gigabyte G1 and EVGA and MSI Gaming are all around the same price too.

I suggest you to get RX470 instead if you want to save money, the performance is extremely/very close to RX480 in most of the games, 4GB version costs RM 989.

GTX1060 performs better in DX11/OpenCL titles while RX480 excels in DX12/Vulkan titles, both have pros and cons.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 15 2016, 12:06 AM)

Well TBH Palit and Zotac GTX1060 are cheaper than RX480 reference card, just don't look at Asus ridiculous pricing on their Strix series  sweat.gif

RX480 aftermarket version, i.e. Sapphire Nitro+, PowerColor Red Devil both cost around RM 1450, GTX1060 Gigabyte G1 and EVGA and MSI Gaming are all around the same price too.

I suggest you to get RX470 instead if you want to save money, the performance is extremely/very close to RX480 in most of the games, 4GB version costs RM 989.

GTX1060 performs better in DX11/OpenCL titles while RX480 excels in DX12/Vulkan titles, both have pros and cons.
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so getting RX470 is much worth it compare to entry level 1060? Zotac 1219, Palit 1060 1249? hmm.gif

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so getting RX470 is much worth it compare to entry level 1060? Zotac 1219, Palit 1060 1249? hmm.gif
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Look for Lazada/GemFive coupon code, you can get discount up to RM 250 with item > RM 1250, so you might end up buying the card at just slightly above 1k, I have seen few people bought their GTX1060 (Zotac Mini and Palit Dual Fan) at just RM 10xx 2 weeks ago.

If you want to get at retail shop (cash and carry), then RX 470 4GB is more budget friendly for those with limited budget (< 1k) or looking for cheap performance card.

You get what you pay for, so technically RX470 won't be able to beat GTX1060 in terms of raw performance, including the entry level one (level doesn't really matter since entry level is still having same GP106 chipset, only the clock speed and cooling solution aren't the same compared to high end model), it is all about your budget, if got budget and willing to spend extra for it then go ahead.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Aug 15 2016, 02:24 PM)
so getting RX470 is much worth it compare to entry level 1060? Zotac 1219, Palit 1060 1249? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 15 2016, 02:43 PM)
Look for Lazada/GemFive coupon code, you can get discount up to RM 250 with item > RM 1250, so you might end up buying the card at just slightly above 1k, I have seen few people bought their GTX1060 (Zotac Mini and Palit Dual Fan) at just RM 10xx 2 weeks ago.

If you want to get at retail shop (cash and carry), then RX 470 4GB is more budget friendly for those with limited budget (< 1k) or looking for cheap performance card.

You get what you pay for, so technically RX470 won't be able to beat GTX1060 in terms of raw performance, including the entry level one (level doesn't really matter since entry level is still having same GP106 chipset, only the clock speed and cooling solution aren't the same compared to high end model), it is all about your budget, if got budget and willing to spend extra for it then go ahead.
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there is currently a 25% off coupon in gemfive, max discount Rm200, min purchace i think its RM300
code 25scb
condition = only be used on standard charted cards.

maybe you can find a RM800 rx470 or a RM1000 gtx1060

there was a wrong listed yesterday someone manage to get a 2tb Toshiba portable 2.5" usb3 for RM200 after glitch price and bank discount, he got 3 units. not sure if it was canceled.

----update - the items got voided, well that was expected. The old lazada would had honored the purchase, and even if they void the order, they would had given user a sorry voucher RM30-50

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 15 2016, 12:06 AM)

GTX1060 performs better in DX11/OpenCL titles while RX480 excels in DX12/Vulkan titles, both have pros and cons.
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i read a few reviews which says the same thing, but i didnt notice if its because nvidia got outdated drivers?
if nvidia updates its drivers it will run dx12/vulkan fast??
or is it just a hardware issue?
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[Budget] most cost efficient, although ard 2k or below would be nice

[Purpose] only for games such as d2/csgo, wont be playing AAA titles that require more hardcore specs

[Hardwares that will be re-use] nope

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2 and csgo only

[Location] selangor/KL

just need a rig that can run d2 and csgo with high framerates + smooth gameplay, i'll be getting a new rig in a year and a half so this will only be just temporary.

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Hi guys,

Looking for suggestion for the below requirements

[B][Budget] RM 4-5K

[Purpose] Some occasional gaming (COD, 1st Person Shooters, NFS) & Photo/Video Editing (Adobe CC)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard ,mouse, sound system

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] As above, with addition of MS Office Home

[Personal preferences] Require something with good graphics and smooth operation.

[Location] Klang

Tq

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Aug 15 2016, 05:01 PM)
i read a few reviews which says the same thing, but i didnt notice if its because nvidia got outdated drivers?
if nvidia updates its drivers it will run dx12/vulkan fast??
or is it just a hardware issue?
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For 9xx series, ASync compute in DX12 is not explicitly turned on in the driver level, we don't know if this feature is completely absent in 9xx series or not but Nvidia said they were working at it since this fiasco came out last year. For now, Nvidia simply tells the GPU (9xx series) to ignore all ASync compute instructions so that's why 9xx series doesn't show any gain from DX12 at the moment. For 10 series, ASync compute is indeed there and working well, just the performance gain is not that much or significant compared to AMD side, the gain is around 10% on Nvidia side versus AMD's 25% (average).

As for Vulkan, Nvidia added the support in driver level since Feb 2016 and the only games (stable one) that is using this API is DOOM 2016, there is another one in beta branch which is Dota 2. Vulkan roots to AMD's Mantle API, so we can expect AMD card to benefit more when this API is being used, the "true" ASync compute in Vulkan also brings improvement to AMD card, this feature is not enabled in Nvidia card yet according to the developer (id Software), proper support will be added later on.
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QUOTE(Fusion|007 @ Aug 15 2016, 07:21 PM)
[Budget] most cost efficient, although ard 2k or below would be nice

[Purpose] only for games such as d2/csgo, wont be playing AAA titles that require more hardcore specs

[Hardwares that will be re-use] nope

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2 and csgo only

[Location] selangor/KL

just need a rig that can run d2 and csgo with high framerates + smooth gameplay, i'll be getting a new rig in a year and a half so this will only be just temporary.
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Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 221
Gigabyte H110-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 470
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Armageddon T1x - RM 95
AOC E2180SWDN - RM 318

Total: RM 1898 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Myvicious666 @ Aug 15 2016, 08:05 PM)
Hi guys,

Looking for suggestion for the below requirements

[B][Budget] RM 4-5K

[Purpose] Some occasional gaming (COD, 1st Person Shooters, NFS) & Photo/Video Editing (Adobe CC)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard ,mouse, sound system

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] As above, with addition of MS Office Home

[Personal preferences] Require something with good graphics and smooth operation.

[Location] Klang

Tq
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SDD - RM 255
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 4556 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. GTX1070 (+ RM 500)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 15 2016, 02:43 PM)
Look for Lazada/GemFive coupon code, you can get discount up to RM 250 with item > RM 1250, so you might end up buying the card at just slightly above 1k, I have seen few people bought their GTX1060 (Zotac Mini and Palit Dual Fan) at just RM 10xx 2 weeks ago.

If you want to get at retail shop (cash and carry), then RX 470 4GB is more budget friendly for those with limited budget (< 1k) or looking for cheap performance card.

You get what you pay for, so technically RX470 won't be able to beat GTX1060 in terms of raw performance, including the entry level one (level doesn't really matter since entry level is still having same GP106 chipset, only the clock speed and cooling solution aren't the same compared to high end model), it is all about your budget, if got budget and willing to spend extra for it then go ahead.
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Aug 15 2016, 04:59 PM)
there is currently a 25% off coupon in gemfive, max discount Rm200, min purchace i think its RM300
code 25scb
condition = only be used on standard charted cards.

maybe you can find a RM800 rx470 or a RM1000 gtx1060

there was a wrong listed yesterday someone manage to get a 2tb Toshiba portable 2.5" usb3 for RM200 after glitch price and bank discount, he got 3 units. not sure if it was canceled.
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Yeah, i saw Palit 1060 Jetstream priced 1349 become RM1149 after discount.
However there was no Radeon card available.
Just that i wonder anybody have experienced warranty/rma claim after buying using lazada/gemfive.
if there is RX470 sub 800 or rx480 sub 1k, i will definitely will buy it.
but if there is none available, might as well pay extra for gtx1060 at 1149.

p/s: where did you find the coupon? brows.gif brows.gif
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Hi guys, I need help to build one for rendering uses. Thank you!!

[Purpose] Renderings
[Programs used] 3DSMax, Vray, Rhino, AutoCAD, Photoshop.
[Location] KL

So far I am being recommended with these specs:

Processor Intel Ci7 3.40Ghz 6700
Motherboard Asus Intel B150 Pro Gaming D4
Ram Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz CL 15
SSD 2.5" Transcend 256GB SSD370 SATAS
VGA Asus Geforce STRIX - GTX960 DirectCU II OC 4GB DDR5 PCI-E
Power Supply C.Master G650M RS650-AMAA-B1
DVD-RW Asus 24X SATA DRW-24D5MT/BLK/G/AS INT
Casing C.Master CM690 III CMS-693-GWN1
Monitor LED AOC 21.5" E2270swdn Blk
Wireless D-Link PC I N150 DWA-525
HDD 3.5" W/Digital 1TB 7200 64MB
Cooler CPU C.Master Hyper 103 RR-H103-22PB-R1

Can someone quote me the price of each items? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Aug 15 2016, 09:18 PM)
Yeah, i saw Palit 1060 Jetstream priced 1349 become RM1149 after discount.
However there was no Radeon card available.
Just that i wonder anybody have experienced warranty/rma claim after buying using lazada/gemfive.
if there is RX470 sub 800 or rx480 sub 1k, i will definitely will buy it.
but if there is none available, might as well pay extra for gtx1060 at 1149.

p/s: where did you find the coupon? brows.gif  brows.gif
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You have to deal with the 3rd party seller, not Lazada nor GemFive because they are just a platform for the sellers to sell their stuffs, unless it is stated "Sold and fulfilled by Lazada/GemFive".

Occassin/Techview/TMT are the example of the sellers, you can claim the warranty from them instead of going through Lazada/GemFive when needed.

You can find coupon code in Kopitiam section, there are 2 dedicated threads for Lazada and GemFive discussion.

QUOTE(feijun @ Aug 15 2016, 09:49 PM)
Hi guys, I need help to build one for rendering uses. Thank you!!

[Purpose] Renderings
[Programs used] 3DSMax, Vray, Rhino, AutoCAD, Photoshop.
[Location] KL

So far I am being recommended with these specs:

Processor Intel Ci7 3.40Ghz 6700 - RM 1300
Motherboard Asus Intel B150 Pro Gaming D4 - RM 570
Ram Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz CL 15 - RM 140
SSD 2.5" Transcend 256GB SSD370 SATAS - RM 300
VGA Asus Geforce STRIX - GTX960 DirectCU II OC 4GB DDR5 PCI-E - RM 950
Power Supply C.Master G650M RS650-AMAA-B1 - RM 300
DVD-RW Asus 24X SATA DRW-24D5MT/BLK/G/AS INT - RM 70
Casing C.Master CM690 III CMS-693-GWN1 - RM 400
Monitor LED AOC 21.5" E2270swdn Blk - RM 400
Wireless D-Link PC I N150 DWA-525 - RM 40
HDD 3.5" W/Digital 1TB 7200 64MB - RM 220
Cooler CPU C.Master Hyper 103 RR-H103-22PB-R1 - RM 100

Can someone quote me the price of each items?  notworthy.gif
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The total cost of the rig above is around 4.8k (the price added above is based on rounded off price). You can get a much better build with such budget.

My recommendation:

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SDD - RM 255
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Asus DVD-ROM - RM 70
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ EW2440ZH VA - RM 579

Total: RM 4789 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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[B][Budget]RM2K TO RM2.5K (which can let me play all the games in the next 3 years)

[Purpose]GAMING

[Hardwares that will be re-use]MONITOR 1080p, keyboard and speaker

[Monitor resolution] no need

[Games & softwares that use frequently]RPG game like wictcher, dragon age etc

[Personal preferences] any brand

[Location]klang valley

Thanks.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Aug 15 2016, 09:18 PM)
Yeah, i saw Palit 1060 Jetstream priced 1349 become RM1149 after discount.
However there was no Radeon card available.
Just that i wonder anybody have experienced warranty/rma claim after buying using lazada/gemfive.
if there is RX470 sub 800 or rx480 sub 1k, i will definitely will buy it.
but if there is none available, might as well pay extra for gtx1060 at 1149.

p/s: where did you find the coupon? brows.gif  brows.gif
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There is a loophole, if you cant find a listing brows.gif brows.gif

Pretty sure this violates the gemfive (platform) conditions for both seller and buyer, but as long as both parties seller and buyer agree before hand, gemfive does not need to know, and make sure you pick a reputable seller

i have heard people buy a item at similar price and get an exchange later on successfully
Its kind of like buying a store credit in advance to utilize coupon discount, then use the full credit to buy something else.
eg in gemfive buy RM1000 item use -RM200 coupon, pay RM800. Go to store say you got RM1000 credit and use it.

i tried to do this when they had that 30% voucher to buy some nice speakers, but in the mids of extended nego time due to hari raya and stock check, the voucher expired sleep.gif
vendor = GAMEHYPERMART is open to the idea. some other power tools hardware shops also cthardvare or colora etc......
their comments are = putting listings on gemfive is harder/longer then lazada/11street, strict verification process....

1)You must contact seller in advance, eg find they shop name and google it, the popular ones are on 11street, lelong, lazada too usually with the same name, once you find the company look at their listings on other platform, they usually have a full listings.
sometimes they use a different company name, (see below for details on retailer names)
2)once you contact them say you want to purchase rx470 but no listing in gemfive, ask them very nicely to buy something they have listing on gemfive that is similar in price. then pay the difference to the acc directly, dont ask for a refund as its a hassle for them.

look in the Gemfive thread, read 1st page for more useful details on retailer names and discount coupons
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3995400/+1220&#entry81272116
the lazada thread one is not as popular now due to stingy coupons
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3947829/+1980&#entry81269765

few months back i got a k70 mechanical keyboard from GAMEHYPERMART use that 30% voucher, later contact them and say i want to swap to a slightly different model, blue to brown switches instead, the listing was same price, they where ok about it.

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QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ Aug 15 2016, 11:07 PM)
[B][Budget]RM2K TO RM2.5K (which can let me play all the games in the next 3 years)

[Purpose]GAMING

[Hardwares that will be re-use]MONITOR 1080p, keyboard and speaker

[Monitor resolution] no need

[Games & softwares that use frequently]RPG game like wictcher, dragon age etc

[Personal preferences] any brand

[Location]klang valley

Thanks.
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Play all the games in next 3 years? Too ambitious to say that now, games requirements are changing almost every year, if you don't mind playing at slightly lower graphics settings in return for better FPS then it should be fine.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 147
Sapphire RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ - RM 989
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Armageddon T1x - RM 95

Total: RM 2611 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you cannot make the top up at all, then you have to stick with last gen R9 380/GTX960, I suggest you to top up for it instead since you are aiming to get a rig which can last you for the next 3 years.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 15 2016, 08:39 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SDD - RM 255
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 4556 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. GTX1070 (+ RM 500)
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Hi,

Tq for your suggestion.
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Need a suggestion for RM5k-5.3k PC. Usually will use for gaming, prefer skylake build i7 6700k with RX480 and samsung EVO 128GB (PRO if possible), also MICRO-ATX build.

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morning all.

[B][Budget] 5-6k if possible, may go to 7k if needed.

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor. mouse, kb

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] steam

[Personal preferences] m-atx casing, gtx1080, non-oc

[Location] Sarawak

thanx all.
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not a rig suggestion but im looking for a good monitor to replace my dell u2312hm
if i cant get a warranty on it

I play dota 2 and a low input lag would be nice

but i think i was kinda spoiled with the dell ultrasharp ips

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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 17 2016, 02:01 AM)
Need a suggestion for RM5k-5.3k PC. Usually will use for gaming, prefer skylake build i7 6700k with RX480 and samsung EVO 128GB (PRO if possible), also MICRO-ATX build.

These are not included :
Monitor
Pheripherals
Hard disk drive
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If gaming only, I suggest you to spend more on GPU instead of CPU, CPU overclocking doesn't bring significant performance boost, it can be none at all if the games you play isn't CPU demanding.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1444
Asus Z170M-PLUS - RM 517
Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 423
XFX RX 480 8GB GDDR5 GTR Triple X - RM 1329
Samsung 850 PRO 120GB SSD - RM 399
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 508
Corsair Carbide 88R - RM 226

Total: RM 5185 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(azamen87 @ Aug 17 2016, 07:13 AM)
morning all.

[B][Budget] 5-6k if possible, may go to 7k if needed.

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor. mouse, kb

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] steam

[Personal preferences] m-atx casing, gtx1080, non-oc

[Location] Sarawak

thanx all.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1295
Gigabyte H170M-D3H - RM 469
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 338
EVGA GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X Gaming ACX 3.0 - RM 3199
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 469
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Carbide Air 240 - RM 455

Total: RM 6853 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

To lower down the total cost, you can do the following:
1. Get a cheaper and smaller size SSD (or remove it completely if you don't need it)
2. Get a cheaper PSU (full modular is recommended for cable management purpose)
3. Get a cheaper GTX1080 like Palit Jetstream which runs at stock reference clock speed (you can overclock manually if needed)
4. Get a cheaper mATX case
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Aug 17 2016, 08:30 AM)
not a rig suggestion but im looking for a good monitor to replace my dell u2312hm
if i cant get a warranty on it

I play dota 2 and a low input lag would be nice

but i think i was kinda spoiled with the dell ultrasharp ips
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Time for 144Hz master race laugh.gif

Acer XB240H is below 1k now, if you own a compatible GSync enabled Nvidia GPU and you want to try out GSync then you can look for XB241H (around 1.8 - 1.9k), but your display type will be "downgraded" from IPS to TN.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 17 2016, 09:47 AM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1295
Gigabyte H170M-D3H - RM 469
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 338
EVGA GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X Gaming ACX 3.0 - RM 3199
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 469
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Carbide Air 240 - RM 455

Total: RM 6853 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

To lower down the total cost, you can do the following:
1. Get a cheaper and smaller size SSD (or remove it completely if you don't need it)
2. Get a cheaper PSU (full modular is recommended for cable management purpose)
3. Get a cheaper GTX1080 like Palit Jetstream which runs at stock reference clock speed (you can overclock manually if needed)
4. Get a cheaper mATX case
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thanx for the specs! will be solely based on this with your 4 recommendation. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Time for 144Hz master race  laugh.gif

Acer XB240H is below 1k now, if you own a compatible GSync enabled Nvidia GPU and you want to try out GSync then you can look for XB241H (around 1.8 - 1.9k), but your display type will be "downgraded" from IPS to TN.
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would you rather go for ips or tn?? 144 or Glorious IPS colors
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Aug 17 2016, 10:24 AM)
would you rather go for ips or tn?? 144 or Glorious IPS colors
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If your budget is restricting you from getting the XB271HU (IPS 144Hz) then you have 2 options:

1. Go for TN 144Hz either with or without GSync/FreeSync

2. Go for IPS 60Hz

For me, I prefer IPS over TN, the refresh rate is not that important to me because I rarely play FPS shooter/Dota 2 which benefit from high refresh rate and low input lag display.

I bought a XB241H to test "water" last month, was hoping it could replace my old Dell U2414H as the main monitor for me when I am travelling back to my hometown (my XB271HU is too big to bring back bangwall.gif ), but just after 2 days, I sold off the XB241H for 2 reasons, thick bezel (I already get used to thin bezel monitor so this is totally my personal preferences only, it might not apply to you) and TN panel which spoils my mood due to washed out colors, then I ended up upgrading to U2417H instead.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 17 2016, 09:35 AM)
If gaming only, I suggest you to spend more on GPU instead of CPU, CPU overclocking doesn't bring significant performance boost, it can be none at all if the games you play isn't CPU demanding.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1444
Asus Z170M-PLUS - RM 517
Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 423
XFX RX 480 8GB GDDR5 GTR Triple X - RM 1329
Samsung 850 PRO 120GB SSD - RM 399
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 508
Corsair Carbide 88R - RM 226

Total: RM 5185 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Thanks!!
Does the PSU enough to run crossfire in the future?

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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 17 2016, 03:20 PM)
Thanks!!
Does the PSU enough to run crossfire in the future?
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650W is recommended for RX480 CF but the mobo doesn't support dual PCIe 3.0 x8 speed when 2 of its PCIe 3.0 slots are occupied, one will run at x4 mode only, this will slow down the card by a huge margin (bottleneck by PCIe slot).

We don't have many Z170 mATX mobo choices to make in Malaysia, it is either you go all in with Asus Maximus VIII Gene (supports dual x8/x8 mode, around 1.2k) or get an ATX mobo and ATX case.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 17 2016, 03:31 PM)
650W is recommended for RX480 CF but the mobo doesn't support dual PCIe 3.0 x8 speed when 2 of its PCIe 3.0 slots are occupied, one will run at x4 mode only, this will slow down the card by a huge margin (bottleneck by PCIe slot).

We don't have many Z170 mATX mobo choices to make in Malaysia, it is either you go all in with Asus Maximus VIII Gene (supports dual x8/x8 mode, around 1.2k) or get an ATX mobo and ATX case.
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So for the ATX build, which asus mobo does support the CF?
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Hi there,

Looking to replace my old gpu(dead) gt9500
My budget just around rm400(can add bit if worth)

Spec
Cpu- Pentium g2010
Ram- 4gb ddr3
Psu- cm500 (forgot to check details)
Reso- 900p

Hopefully got one fit for the budget

*not a heavy users/gamers
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 17 2016, 03:51 PM)
So for the ATX build, which asus mobo does support the CF?
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Z170 mobo with dual PCIe x8/x8 mode support for optimal CF setup (between RM 650 - RM 800):

1. Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
2. Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura (new)
3. Gigabyte Z170XP SLI
4. Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 3
5. ASRock Z170 Extreme 4
6. MSI Z170A Gaming Pro
7. MSI Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon
8. MSI Z170A Krait Gaming

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QUOTE(Cheat2Win @ Aug 17 2016, 03:58 PM)
Hi there,

Looking to replace my old gpu(dead) gt9500
My budget just around rm400(can add bit if worth)

Spec
Cpu- Pentium g2010
Ram- 4gb ddr3
Psu- cm500 (forgot to check details)
Reso- 900p

Hopefully got one fit for the budget

*not a heavy users/gamers
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Palit/Zotac GTX750 is around RM 400 - RM 450.

If want to keep below RM 400, then you can look for R7 250.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 17 2016, 04:12 PM)
Palit/Zotac GTX750 is around RM 400 - RM 450.

If want to keep below RM 400, then you can look for R7 250.
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Thx. Btw Any recomendation seller with postage for that 750 card??
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is there any signifcant diff btwn benq's EW2440ZH and GW2470H? thx!
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QUOTE(Cheat2Win @ Aug 17 2016, 04:42 PM)
Thx. Btw Any recomendation seller with postage for that 750 card??
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You can look for ETech/Techview/DotaTech.

GTX750Ti's pricing is very close to GTX750 (can be as low as RM 470), GTX750Ti is around 15 - 20% faster, but if you don't game too much, then R7 250 should be enough.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 17 2016, 05:12 PM)
You can look for ETech/Techview/DotaTech.

GTX750Ti's pricing is very close to GTX750 (can be as low as RM 470), GTX750Ti is around 15 - 20% faster, but if you don't game too much, then R7 250 should be enough.
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Good point there, i go hunt for r7 250.

Tqvm!!!
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QUOTE(Darksorrow3010 @ Aug 17 2016, 04:57 PM)
is there any signifcant diff btwn benq's EW2440ZH and GW2470H? thx!
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No but EW2440ZH's bezel is thinner.
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Hi guys, I'm studying architecture and have difficulties with my i5 system, had it for about 3-4 years i think. Thinking of selling and upgrading to an i7 new rig. Anyone can advise how much can this go for? Not familiar with PC tech hahaha sweat.gif

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Hi guys, I'm studying architecture and have difficulties with my i5 system, had it for about 3-4 years i think. Thinking of selling and upgrading to an i7 new rig. Anyone can advise how much can this go for? Not familiar with PC tech hahaha  sweat.gif

* Interior pic of my PC is outdated. I have added 2 more 4gb RAMS.
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Not much, probably around RM 500 - RM 800.

The GPU isn't worth to sell/buy anymore since latest Intel Skylake iGPU can beat it easily, the i5 can sell for around RM 400+.
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Not much, probably around RM 500 - RM 800.

The GPU isn't worth to sell/buy anymore since latest Intel Skylake iGPU can beat it easily, the i5 can sell for around RM 400+.
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HAHAH that's pathetic. Thanks bro! btw, any rig you could recommend for softwares like Autodesk Revit, Lumion 3D? budget about 3k, reasonable or too cheapskate? haha if can go cheaper I also happier.

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Hi, I want to ask for suggestions for my first build.

[Budget]
Rm2500-3000 (can top up if needed)

[Purpose]
From most resource demanding to least:
Gaming (Medium to high at 1080p)
Playing media files
Web browsing

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Monitor
Keyboard

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Strategy games such as the Civilization series and Paradox games, sometimes RPG games like the AC series.


[Personal preferences]
None

[Location]
Kuching
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i dont know if this is the right place to ask.

asus h81m-d or asus h81m-c?
what is the different?
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QUOTE(kennethooi91 @ Aug 17 2016, 09:06 PM)
HAHAH that's pathetic. Thanks bro! btw, any rig you could recommend for softwares like Autodesk Revit, Lumion 3D? budget about 3k, reasonable or too cheapskate? haha if can go cheaper I also happier.
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Cheap rig is always possible with some sacrifices to the components, which indirectly increases the total time needed to finish the task/operation/render etc.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 470
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2558 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Min requirment for Lumion 3D is 6k CPU PassMark points and 2k GPU PassMark points with 2GB VRAM, CPU is fine but GPU is at border line, you can upgrade to GTX960 (4GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) or RX460 (4GB) or RX470 (4GB/8GB) if needed.

SSD can be dropped as well to save money.
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QUOTE(nightglimmer96 @ Aug 18 2016, 10:58 AM)
Hi, I want to ask for suggestions for my first build.

[Budget]
Rm2500-3000 (can top up if needed)

[Purpose]
From most resource demanding to least:
Gaming (Medium to high at 1080p)
Playing media files
Web browsing

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Monitor
Keyboard

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Strategy games such as the Civilization series and Paradox games, sometimes RPG games like the AC series.
[Personal preferences]
None

[Location]
Kuching
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2916 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Alternative GPU:
1. Palit GTX1060 6GB VRAM - RM 1249
2. RX 470 with 8GB VRAM - add RM 150+/-
3. RX 480 with 8GB VRAM - add RM 450+/-
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QUOTE(zellix @ Aug 18 2016, 11:16 AM)
i dont know if this is the right place to ask.

asus h81m-d or asus h81m-c?
what is the different?
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You get an extra PCI slot and few USB slots/headers on Asus H81M-C.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 11:56 AM)
You get an extra PCI slot and few USB slots/headers on Asus H81M-C.
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okay. im going with these:

i3 4170
asus h81m-c
hyper fury ddr3 1600mhz 8gb
bitfenix nova
seagate barracuda hdd 1tb
asus gtx550 Ti ( maybe will upgrade to gtx750Ti 2gbd5 )

is this build good ?
really tight budget for now.

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QUOTE(zellix @ Aug 18 2016, 12:09 PM)
okay. im going with these:

i3 4170
asus h81m-c
hyper fury ddr3 1600mhz 8gb
bitfenix nova
seagate barracuda hdd 1tb
asus gtx550 Ti ( maybe will upgrade to gtx750Ti 2gbd5 )

is this build good ?
really tight budget for now.
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What's your budget? 1.5k?
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Hi guys,

I have been having a Dell Studio XPS 7100 "gaming desktop" for about 6 years now running on AMD Phenom II X6 1055T CPU and Radeon HD 5870 GPU. It is still doing good till today but sometimes the temperature is very high that I have to remove the side panel for it to cool off a little bit but this will invite a lot of dust in the system. This desktop only has 1 rear fan and the space inside the case is compact.

I am thinking to get a new casing and transfer everything there.

Can you suggest a decent casing with good airflow? I'm not sure if the Dell mobo and power supply will fit in the new case but I'm ready to replace them both at a budget. So could you please suggest a mobo and power supply as well? I'm looking at a budget of below 1k and of coz the lower is better. My usage is pretty much light gaming but more on movies and surfing Internet.

I'm sorry if I didn't follow the template as I'm not sure how to fill it in with my special query lol.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 12:25 PM)
What's your budget? 1.5k?
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remove the gpu, my budget rm1200

+ i already had psu

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QUOTE(wooimin22 @ Aug 18 2016, 01:39 PM)
Hi guys,

I have been having a Dell Studio XPS 7100 "gaming desktop" for about 6 years now running on AMD Phenom II X6 1055T CPU and Radeon HD 5870 GPU. It is still doing good till today but sometimes the temperature is very high that I have to remove the side panel for it to cool off a little bit but this will invite a lot of dust in the system. This desktop only has 1 rear fan and the space inside the case is compact.

I am thinking to get a new casing and transfer everything there.

Can you suggest a decent casing with good airflow? I'm not sure if the Dell mobo and power supply will fit in the new case but I'm ready to replace them both at a budget. So could you please suggest a mobo and power supply as well? I'm looking at a budget of below 1k and of coz the lower is better. My usage is pretty much light gaming but more on movies and surfing Internet.

I'm sorry if I didn't follow the template as I'm not sure how to fill it in with my special query lol.

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Just get a standard ATX case like Tecware Alpha (around RM 200) which comes with 3 casing fans and you are good to go, no need to change mobo or PSU if everything remains the same.

QUOTE(zellix @ Aug 18 2016, 02:09 PM)
remove the gpu, my budget rm1200

+ i already had psu
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You can get 6th gen Intel Core i3 with 1.2k budget.

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 1212 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 02:17 PM)
Just get a standard ATX case like Tecware Alpha (around RM 200) which comes with 3 casing fans and you are good to go, no need to change mobo or PSU if everything remains the same.
You can get 6th gen Intel Core i3 with 1.2k budget.

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 1212 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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okay. thx a lot biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 11:46 AM)
Cheap rig is always possible with some sacrifices to the components, which indirectly increases the total time needed to finish the task/operation/render etc.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 470
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2558 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Min requirment for Lumion 3D is 6k CPU PassMark points and 2k GPU PassMark points with 2GB VRAM, CPU is fine but GPU is at border line, you can upgrade to GTX960 (4GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) or RX460 (4GB) or RX470 (4GB/8GB) if needed.

SSD can be dropped as well to save money.
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SSDNow out of stock for both 120GB and 240GB, they replaced my 240GB with Adata-Premier-SP550-240GB for free.

Note that TechView will install windows 10 for u biggrin.gif
Demand for Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan is very high. they have a lot stock ordered
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Aug 18 2016, 04:47 PM)
SSDNow out of stock for both 120GB and 240GB, they replaced my 240GB with Adata-Premier-SP550-240GB for free.

Note that TechView will install windows 10 for u  biggrin.gif
Demand for Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan is very high. they have a lot stock ordered
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wow they still install windows 10 for free, i though they did it coz it was had free upgrade from windows 7.
they install win7 then upgraded to win10 for the 2 pc i bought last early in the year.

the ssdnow kingston V400 should be better then Adata, it still uses Toshiba(fast) nand for now , they may sawp it out to a cheaper/slower nand later on like what they did with V300 series
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Aug 18 2016, 04:47 PM)
Note that TechView will install windows 10 for u  biggrin.gif
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Full version or just trial?

If full version, Home/Pro/Enterprise?
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Full version or just trial?

If full version, Home/Pro/Enterprise?
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I will need to confirm with u guys again on this later night.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 11:46 AM)
Min requirment for Lumion 3D is 6k CPU PassMark points and 2k GPU PassMark points with 2GB VRAM, CPU is fine but GPU is at border line, you can upgrade to GTX960 (4GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) or RX460 (4GB) or RX470 (4GB/8GB) if needed.

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Hi Terence

The build list seems pretty much in line with what I've in mind for a gaming rig that can last for at least 2 or 3 years. Perhaps I'd drop the RAM to 8GB.

I've a question on the GPU - I'm assuming performance & price wise GTX1060>RX480>RX470 (correct me if I'm wrong). Plus there's talk of potential release of GTX1050?

Based on their prices in Malaysia right now, which one do you think has the:
1) 'Best' bang-for-the-buck (Performance/RM, e.g. i5-6500); and
2) 'Longevity' (potentially last for at least 2 years)?

I'm leaning towards the RX470 now considering my immediate want is to play BF4/BF1 @1080p, no point paying extra for prettier eye-candy.

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[B][Budget]RM 3K (which can let me play all the games in the next 3 years)

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[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard and speaker

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]AAA game and CAD software such as Autocad, Solidwork, Catia.

[Personal preferences] include SSD. any brand

[Location]Seremban

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Full version or just trial?

If full version, Home/Pro/Enterprise?
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I highly recommend them (Techview) and I will continue to buy from them in the future.
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Windows 10 Pro, not sure ori or not but pre-load saves me the trouble  cool2.gif

I highly recommend them (Techview) and I will continue to buy from them in the future.
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oh i though you bought it from etech.
there are 2 ways of checking if ori or not, one within the windows, other using cmd.
google is your friend.


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QUOTE(absolut @ Aug 18 2016, 06:40 PM)
Hi Terence

The build list seems pretty much in line with what I've in mind for a gaming rig that can last for at least 2 or 3 years. Perhaps I'd drop the RAM to 8GB.

I've a question on the GPU - I'm assuming performance & price wise GTX1060>RX480>RX470 (correct me if I'm wrong). Plus there's talk of potential release of GTX1050?

Based on their prices in Malaysia right now, which one do you think has the:
1) 'Best' bang-for-the-buck (Performance/RM, e.g. i5-6500); and
2) 'Longevity' (potentially last for at least 2 years)?

I'm leaning towards the RX470 now considering my immediate want is to play BF4/BF1 @1080p, no point paying extra for prettier eye-candy.
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i5 6500 and GTX1060 Palit Dual Fan model combo is holding the best performance/price ratio currently, can be built at slightly over 3k only, it should be able to last for at least 2 years, just use the GTX970 as reference, it is almost 2 years old already and it is currently the most popular GPU on Steam platform.

RX470 is having extremely similar (or close) performance to RX480, but the pricing of this card is not that "value for money" when it compares to other cards, Sapphire Nitro+, XFX GTR and PowerColor Red Devil 8GB model all cost more than 1.1k.
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QUOTE(misterwinston @ Aug 18 2016, 07:10 PM)
[B][Budget]RM 3K (which can let me play all the games in the next 3 years)

[Purpose]GAMING and CAD

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard and speaker

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]AAA game and CAD software such as Autocad, Solidwork, Catia.

[Personal preferences] include SSD. any brand

[Location]Seremban

Thanks.
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270 - RM 379

Total: RM 3093 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Whether it can last for 3 years or not, nobody can give you a guaranteed answer, it should be fine provided you aren't too picky on the graphics settings that this rig can handle.
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oh i though you bought it from etech.
there are 2 ways of checking if ori or not, one within the windows, other using cmd.
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ori but last until feb 2017 after checked from cmd prompt. I changed the product key to ori cool2.gif thanks for the info
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Aug 18 2016, 10:05 PM)
ori but last until feb 2017 after checked from cmd prompt. I changed the product key to ori  cool2.gif  thanks for the info
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So which command did you use?

slmgr /xpr?

If yes and the key is genuine (without having to recheck or reactivate in XX days) then it should show "This machine is permanently activated".

Remember to log into your Microsoft account to tie/link the genuine key with your account (only available with Anniversary update version 1607).
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So which command did you use?

slmgr /xpr?

If yes and the key is genuine (without having to recheck or reactivate in XX days) then it should show "This machine is permanently activated".

Remember to log into your Microsoft account to tie/link the genuine key with your account (only available with Anniversary update version 1607).
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yes slmgr /xpr

thanks for the advice again biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 10:01 PM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270 - RM 379

Total: RM 3093 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Whether it can last for 3 years or not, nobody can give you a guaranteed answer, it should be fine provided you aren't too picky on the graphics settings that this rig can handle.
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just a little question. I'm building a rig for a friend. I'm wondering if I should go for FSP Hexa+ or M12ii/S12ii since S12ii is a tier 2 but it almost double the price.
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just a little question. I'm building a rig for a friend. I'm wondering if I should go for FSP Hexa+ or M12ii/S12ii since S12ii is a tier 2 but it almost double the price.
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If budget allows, then getting a better PSU is always recommended.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 19 2016, 08:32 AM)
If budget allows, then getting a better PSU is always recommended.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 10:01 PM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX 470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270 - RM 379

Total: RM 3093 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Whether it can last for 3 years or not, nobody can give you a guaranteed answer, it should be fine provided you aren't too picky on the graphics settings that this rig can handle.
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What do u mean by last for 3 years 🤔
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 19 2016, 10:24 AM)
What do u mean by last for 3 years 🤔
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The OP stated:

[Budget]RM 3K (which can let me play all the games in the next 3 years)

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someone know where i can post about my signature? another person got scammed now. pls this scammer should die.
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You can post in Garage Sales Helpdesk.

GS Helpdesk > Resource Center > Scammer List or GS Helpdesk > Dispute Corner.
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Hello all, I need a recommendation for work/gaming pc and a monitor. My budget is around 7 to 7.5k with monitor. Main purpose is to learn some programming, gaming/movies. Thanks in advance smile.gif
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QUOTE(joeyzasa @ Aug 19 2016, 02:24 PM)
Hello all, I need a recommendation for work/gaming pc and a monitor. My budget is around 7 to 7.5k with monitor. Main purpose is to learn some programming, gaming/movies. Thanks in advance smile.gif
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Budget is too healthy for the general term "gaming", there are many "gaming" definitions out there, for example, casual gaming which doesn't involve any graphics demanding games, MOBO like Dota 2/LoL etc, triple A titles (settings to run), ultrawide/triple screen racing game league etc.

Please elaborate more on what games you gonna play and the resolution you are looking to get, if possible, please state a specific acceptable price range for the monitor as well because some people will panic when I recommend them a monitor with price tag > 1k laugh.gif


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Budget is too healthy for the general term "gaming", there are many "gaming" definitions out there, for example, casual gaming which doesn't involve any graphics demanding games, MOBO like Dota 2/LoL etc, triple A titles (settings to run), ultrawide/triple screen racing game league etc.

Please elaborate more on what games you gonna play and the resolution you are looking to get, if possible, please state a specific acceptable price range for the monitor as well because some people will panic when I recommend them a monitor with price tag > 1k  laugh.gif
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I want to play games such as DOOM, skyrim, dark soul, witcher 3 smoothly. I was considering this specs:

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but decided to cut the budget to half.

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I want to play games such as DOOM, skyrim, dark soul, witcher 3 smoothly. I was considering this specs:

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but decided to cut the budget to half.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Gamerock - RM 2099
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485
Acer Predator XB241H - RM 1899

Total: RM 7441 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Hi Sifu,
Recently won bid for demo allienware x51 for 3k. Worth it?

DEscriptION
Alienware X51 R2
Processor
Intel Core i7-4790@3.6Ghz
Operating System
Windows 7 Professional
Graphics
Nvidia Geforce 760Ti
Webcam
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Memory
8GB DDR3
Storage
2TB HDD
Optical Drive
DVDRW Drive
Audio
Realtek ALC887 7.1 Alienware Channel Surround
Battery
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Display
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Weight
5.4Kg
Color
Black
I/O (Input/Output) Ports
1xHDMI, 2x 2.0USB port, 4x 3.0 USB port, RJ45, audio line-out (back surround), audio line-out (center/subwoofer), audio line-out (front surround), audio line-out (side surround)
WLAN
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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 20 2016, 01:08 PM)
Hi Sifu,
Recently won bid for demo allienware x51 for 3k. Worth it?

DEscriptION 
Alienware X51 R2
Processor 
Intel Core i7-4790@3.6Ghz
Operating System
Windows 7 Professional
Graphics 
Nvidia Geforce 760Ti
Webcam 
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Memory 
8GB DDR3
Storage 
2TB HDD
Optical Drive
DVDRW Drive
Audio 
Realtek ALC887 7.1 Alienware Channel Surround
Battery 
-
Display 
-
Weight 
5.4Kg
Color 
Black
I/O (Input/Output) Ports
1xHDMI, 2x 2.0USB port, 4x 3.0 USB port, RJ45, audio line-out (back surround), audio line-out (center/subwoofer), audio line-out (front surround), audio line-out (side surround)
WLAN 
802.11b/g/n, Dell Wireless 1506
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Not so worth, 3k can get a better GPU.
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Thanks bro. Such as what GPU? More than 2gb?
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Is this allienware rig able to handle AAA games with sacrifices of high setting?
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Thanks bro. Such as what GPU? More  than 2gb?
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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 20 2016, 04:49 PM)
Is this allienware rig able to handle AAA games with sacrifices of high setting?
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There are many Alienware rig out there and the "Alienware" tag makes it expensive sweat.gif

Custom build will be more valuable in overall so if you really want to compare a 3k custom build rig and a 3k Alienware rig, the custom build rig will easily beat it.

3k budget can get i5 + RX470 (4GB/8GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) at min top up. GTX760Ti is a very aged OEM GPU, I don't recommend you to spend 3k on this rig anymore since you can get a much better specs by going for custom build path.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 20 2016, 06:01 PM)
There are many Alienware rig out there and the "Alienware" tag makes it expensive  sweat.gif

Custom build will be more valuable in overall so if you really want to compare a 3k custom build rig and a 3k Alienware rig, the custom build rig will easily beat it.

3k budget can get i5 + RX470 (4GB/8GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) at min top up. GTX760Ti is a very aged OEM GPU, I don't recommend you to spend 3k on this rig anymore since you can get a much better specs by going for custom build path.
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Thanks for your advise. I was struggling of getting one "branded" rig since I never have one before. But come to reality and your kind advise has stopped me to pursue this unrealistic rig. I was tempted over the CPU is i7-4790. Also this rig used it less than a year.

Anyway, I will go those custom rig instead instead of branded rig thumbup.gif
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VX2363MHL vs EW2440ZH pros and cons pls?

anyone can confirm whether those two have glossy or matte surface?
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Hi , I want to ask what graphic card should I upgrade to replace for my current graphic card.


Budget : RM 500-RM 700

Purpose: Upgrading Graphic Card (Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5)

Hardware that will be re-use :
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor (3rd Gen)
Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G43
Memory:HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3
Hard Disk Drive: Western Digital 1TB Hard disk Drive
Power Supply Unit: Cooler Master Elite VER.2 Power 550W PSU Power Supply

Games & softwares that use frequently:Mostly Battlefield , Photoshop , AutoCad,Vray , google Skethcup

My Current Screen resolution : 1440x900 but will upgrade it when getting a new graphic card


and also how much can Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5 be sell for hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 20 2016, 07:49 PM)
Thanks for your advise. I was struggling of getting one "branded" rig since I never have one before. But come to reality and your kind advise has stopped me to pursue this unrealistic rig. I was tempted over the CPU is i7-4790. Also this rig used it less than a year.

Anyway, I will go those custom rig instead instead of branded rig  thumbup.gif
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Well you don't need an i7 when your budget is below 3k since the budget won't be able to fit a super high end GPU that requires an i7 to power it.

Skylake i5 is more suitable for 3k - 4k rig nod.gif

QUOTE(Darksorrow3010 @ Aug 20 2016, 08:12 PM)
VX2363MHL vs EW2440ZH pros and cons pls?

anyone can confirm whether those two have glossy or matte surface?
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IPS vs VA, the difference is obvious but less obvious when comparing IPS vs TN though.

Not sure about screen surface, please check review online.

QUOTE(farisanaa @ Aug 20 2016, 08:51 PM)
Hi , I want to ask what graphic card should I upgrade to replace for my current graphic card.
Budget : RM 500-RM 700

Purpose: Upgrading Graphic Card (Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5)

Hardware that will be re-use :
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor (3rd Gen)
Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G43
Memory:HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3
Hard Disk Drive: Western Digital 1TB Hard disk Drive
Power Supply Unit: Cooler Master Elite VER.2 Power 550W PSU Power Supply

Games & softwares that use frequently:Mostly Battlefield , Photoshop , AutoCad,Vray , google Skethcup

My Current Screen resolution : 1440x900 but will upgrade it when getting a new graphic card
and also how much can Sapphire Radeon HD7770 1GB GDDR5 be sell for  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Thank You smile.gif
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Probably worth RM 250+/- (more or less), it is equivalent to R7 260/R7 360 (average performance).

RM 700 can get GTX950/RX460, RX460 is slower than GTX950 in overall but comes with 4GB VRAM and runs on Polaris architecture, if you add in the funds that you can get from selling off your current card, then you can get RX470 4GB, it is around RM 900 for PowerColor Red Devil version.
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Hi Mr @terence_nwb
Could you suggest me a somewhat RM5K ITX 1070 build. No monitors needed atm.

Btw do you know of any ITX cases besides the Bitfenix Prodigy that does horizontal mobo orientation and a window is a plus smile.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 20 2016, 11:39 PM)
RM 700 can get GTX950/RX460, RX460 is slower than GTX950 in overall but comes with 4GB VRAM and runs on Polaris architecture, if you add in the funds that you can get from selling off your current card, then you can get RX470 4GB, it is around RM 900 for PowerColor Red Devil version.
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Wow, thanks for the reply and advise ! is there anything else should i upgrade beside that ?
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QUOTE(monkeyjumbo @ Aug 21 2016, 12:04 AM)
Hi Mr @terence_nwb
Could you suggest me a somewhat RM5K ITX 1070 build. No monitors needed atm.

Btw do you know of any ITX cases besides the Bitfenix Prodigy that does horizontal mobo orientation and a window is a plus smile.gif
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Corsair Graphite 380T, Corsair Obsidian 250D.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 516
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Asus GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 2100
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Graphite 380T - RM 691

Total: RM 5170 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

The above build is using 380T as the casing (reference only, it can be changed to any case you like).

QUOTE(farisanaa @ Aug 21 2016, 02:14 AM)
Wow, thanks for the reply and advise ! is there anything else should i upgrade beside that ?
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Others are fine.

If you want to go for a higher end GPU, then you are advised to change the PSU too, the max power output on 12V rails of your PSU is 384W only according to the specs sheet provided by CM, it is fine for GTX950/RX460/RX470, so just need to bear in mind that it is not a true power 550W and don't over-stress it with lots of power hungry components sweat.gif
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Anyone has the latest asus motherboard H110 version, does it have the latest graphical type of BIOS instead of the old type?

I need to know whether the video shared memory can be configured in the BIOS. I meant for integrated graphics, not dedicated graphics card.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 18 2016, 11:46 AM)
Cheap rig is always possible with some sacrifices to the components, which indirectly increases the total time needed to finish the task/operation/render etc.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 470
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2558 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Min requirment for Lumion 3D is 6k CPU PassMark points and 2k GPU PassMark points with 2GB VRAM, CPU is fine but GPU is at border line, you can upgrade to GTX960 (4GB) or GTX1060 (6GB) or RX460 (4GB) or RX470 (4GB/8GB) if needed.

SSD can be dropped as well to save money.
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Thanks bro! BUt do you think I can upgrade my existing rig? like changing graphic card and a higher SSD? Photo of my rig is as per above.
Thanks again bro!
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QUOTE(kennethooi91 @ Aug 22 2016, 09:25 AM)
Thanks bro! BUt do you think I can upgrade my existing rig? like changing graphic card and a higher SSD? Photo of my rig is as per above.
Thanks again bro!
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The one with i5 3470? Of course you can, the i5 is still quite competitive, you can throw in an i7 3770 if needed, but I will prioritize the budget for other components first like a new GPU/SSD/PSU etc.




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Hi Guys,

It has been a long time since i ask here. Last time i was using gtx760, r9 280x and last year r7 380. With so much new card relase like gtx 9series, now 10xx series, amd rx series, i have no idea which one best for my budget. Which is about RM600-RM700.

Wish to play :

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- Overwatch
- Tomb Raider (2016)
- Far Cry Primal


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Hi sifu, I am here again asking for advice for my friend who needs a gaming desktop and need to see if I can get an updated build

[Budget] RM4k

[Purpose] For gaming like Evolve, Dragon Nest, StarCraft. Also a little bit of light video editing (Sony Vegas) as well

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Just need the rig itself (with the OS itself as well. which you recommend retail one or the OEM?). Mouse, keyboard and monitor, my friend has it already.

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences] Would prefer NVIDIA build but I am also open to options of having an AMD build as well

[Location] Kuala Lumpur

Thanks!

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Aug 22 2016, 05:23 PM)
Hi Guys,

It has been a long time since i ask here. Last time i was using gtx760, r9 280x and last year r7 380. With so much new card relase like gtx 9series, now 10xx series, amd rx series, i have no idea which one best for my budget. Which is about RM600-RM700.

Wish to play :

- Witcher 3
- Overwatch
- Tomb Raider (2016)
- Far Cry Primal


Thanks in advance.  smile.gif

PS:My current Rig as per my sig. Gaming at 1080p.
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So you sold off your R9 380 already? Your budget cannot get anything that is better than your R9 380.

The best value GPU in terms of price/performance would be GTX950, around RM 600+.

QUOTE(crazydjrock @ Aug 22 2016, 09:36 PM)
Hi sifu, I am here again asking for advice for my friend who needs a gaming desktop and need to see if I can get an updated build

[Budget] RM4k

[Purpose] For gaming like Evolve, Dragon Nest, StarCraft. Also a little bit of light video editing (Sony Vegas) as well

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Just need the rig itself (with the OS itself as well. which you recommend retail one or the OEM?). Mouse, keyboard and monitor, my friend has it already.

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences] Would prefer NVIDIA build but I am also open to options of having an AMD build as well

[Location] Kuala Lumpur

Thanks!
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Retail version of Windows OS is pricey, just go for OEM key if your friend doesn't have too much money for it.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDRR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3620 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Left RM 400+/- for the OS, some people reported that some sellers (like ETech and Techview) will install the OS for you for free but I am not entirely sure on this, you can try to ask them for confirmation on this

Alternatively, you can look for Garage Sales for OS key but beware of counterfeit key.

To max out 4k budget without including the cost of the OS, you can either upgrade to i7 6700 or 16GB RAM or swap to another case etc.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 22 2016, 10:16 PM)
Retail version of Windows OS is pricey, just go for OEM key if your friend doesn't have too much money for it.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDRR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3620 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Left RM 400+/- for the OS, some people reported that some sellers (like ETech and Techview) will install the OS for you for free but I am not entirely sure on this, you can try to ask them for confirmation on this

Alternatively, you can look for Garage Sales for OS key but beware of counterfeit key.

To max out 4k budget without including the cost of the OS, you can either upgrade to i7 6700 or 16GB RAM or swap to another case etc.
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Thank you so much, terrence. My only concern is, are there any other PSUs aside from this one? This is my first time hearing this brand actually, was wondering if there are any other alternatives only.

Thanks again!

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QUOTE(crazydjrock @ Aug 22 2016, 10:34 PM)
Thank you so much, terrence. My only concern is, are there any other PSUs aside from this one? This is my first time hearing this brand actually, was wondering if there are any other alternatives only.

Thanks again!
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Superflower is one of the best PSU manufacturers out there, so no worries on the quality.

Get Leadex Gold 550W at RM 409 if you aim for top tier PSU (tier 1), the low selling price makes it very worth to get now because usually we have to spend a lot in order to get a tier 1 PSU (typically > RM 600).

You can also look for Seasonic M12II EVO 520W/620W, price is around the same but it is a tier 2 PSU and rated with 80+ Bronze vs 80+ Silver/Gold on Superflower Leadex Silver/Gold.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 22 2016, 10:16 PM)
So you sold off your R9 380 already? Your budget cannot get anything that is better than your R9 380.

The best value GPU in terms of price/performance would be GTX950, around RM 600+.
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Thanks bro. Yah sold long time ady my R9 380. So if can max out my budget about RM900ish, best i can get is RX 470 4GB right? Or any other opinion?

Thanks man.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Aug 23 2016, 07:34 AM)
Thanks bro. Yah sold long time ady my R9 380. So if can max out my budget about RM900ish, best i can get is RX 470 4GB right? Or any other opinion?

Thanks man.
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Yes, that's the best you can get.
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Superflower is one of the best PSU manufacturers out there, so no worries on the quality.

Get Leadex Gold 550W at RM 409 if you aim for top tier PSU (tier 1), the low selling price makes it very worth to get now because usually we have to spend a lot in order to get a tier 1 PSU (typically > RM 600).

You can also look for Seasonic M12II EVO 520W/620W, price is around the same but it is a tier 2 PSU and rated with 80+ Bronze vs 80+ Silver/Gold on Superflower Leadex Silver/Gold.
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Alright, thank you very much for the advise! smile.gif
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Hello everyone. I want to build a custom rig but lack of current pc hardware knowledge, all help is appreciated.

[Budget] RM3.5k ~ 4k

[Purpose] 80% gaming, 10% for surfing, 10% for watch movies & anime

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor 24" , keyboard & mouse (all bought from my friends, all used item)

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Evolve Stage 2, Warframe, Dota, Rise of Tomb Rider, SVP (Smooth Video Project)

[Personal preferences] Quality & performance is my top priority

[Location] KL

Thank you.

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QUOTE(watashi89 @ Aug 23 2016, 04:49 PM)
Hello everyone. I want to build a custom rig but lack of current pc hardware knowledge, all help is appreciated.

[Budget] RM3.5k ~ 4k

[Purpose] 80% gaming, 10% for surfing, 10% for watch movies & anime

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor 24" , keyboard & mouse (all bought from my friends, all used item)

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Evolve Stage 2, Warframe, Dota, Rise of Tomb Rider, SVP (Smooth Video Project)

[Personal preferences] Quality & performance is my top priority

[Location] KL

Thank you.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDRR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 4074 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Other option:
1. Drop the i7 to i5 6500 and get 16GB RAM

But I will stick with this build, 8GB RAM is suffice for now and can be upgraded to 16GB later when needed unlike changing CPU which requires some extra efforts, like selling off the current one which can be a headache sometimes.
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My bother plan to buy PC mainly for gaming within this 2 weeks. Need recommendation please.

[B][Budget]RM3500

[Purpose]Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]casing itx and kb/mouse

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]current AAA games

[Personal preferences]need itx mobo since have itx casing and would prefer modular psu

[Location]KL/Selangor

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Im in a big dilema of choosing a right GPU for my new build. either gtx970 or RX 480. Ive done many researches on google including many websites, yet they only solve 70% of my preference. so, what do u guys think?
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 24 2016, 04:19 AM)
Im in a big dilema of choosing a right GPU for my new build. either gtx970 or RX 480. Ive done many researches on google including many websites, yet they only solve 70% of my preference. so, what do u guys think?
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why 970? why don't go straight 1060?
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QUOTE(1zR4eL @ Aug 23 2016, 10:16 PM)
My bother plan to buy PC mainly for gaming within this 2 weeks. Need recommendation please.

[B][Budget]RM3500

[Purpose]Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]casing itx and kb/mouse

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]current AAA games

[Personal preferences]need itx mobo since have itx casing and would prefer modular psu

[Location]KL/Selangor

Thanks
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I need to know your ITX case model because the clearance available (especially for GPU length and height) is different for each ITX case so I can choose the correct hardware.

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 24 2016, 04:19 AM)
Im in a big dilema of choosing a right GPU for my new build. either gtx970 or RX 480. Ive done many researches on google including many websites, yet they only solve 70% of my preference. so, what do u guys think?
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Why GTX970 and RX480 in comparison? It should be GTX1060 vs RX480, the GTX970 is out of the league already.
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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Aug 24 2016, 07:12 AM)
why 970? why don't go straight 1060?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 24 2016, 09:22 AM)
I need to know your ITX case model because the clearance available (especially for GPU length and height) is different for each ITX case so I can choose the correct hardware.
Why GTX970 and RX480 in comparison? It should be GTX1060 vs RX480, the GTX970 is out of the league already.
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Lol, I see. But the 970 still power isnt it? Rofl. So how about the 1060 and rx 480?
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 24 2016, 11:44 AM)
Lol, I see. But the 970 still power isnt it? Rofl. So how about the 1060 and rx 480?
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GTX1060 is on par (or slightly faster) with GTX980 currently, so no point getting the older GTX970 if you have enough budget for GTX1060.

GTX1060 leads in DX11/OpenCL gaming now while RX480 performs better with DX12/Vulkan, both have pros and cons, but GTX1060 can be as low as RM 1219 (if you buy via Lazada/GemFive coupon code then it can be even lower), so your call here, RX480 could be the best buy if it is priced correctly locally but AMD MY seems to be adding more nails in their coffin by pricing the card at such price tag sweat.gif
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Need urgent help from old timers here!!!

I gotta buy a freaking desktop for my boss's son birthday tonight and i'm so out of time.

I have 2k in my possession now to spend for the desktop. Monitor and peripherals are already taken care of. Just the CPU unit.

Again, i need a rig recommendation and budget is 2k.

P/s: I think the ungrateful kid said to me he plays world of warcraft and cs most of the time.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 24 2016, 11:57 AM)
GTX1060 is on par (or slightly faster) with GTX980 currently, so no point getting the older GTX970 if you have enough budget for GTX1060.

GTX1060 leads in DX11/OpenCL gaming now while RX480 performs better with DX12/Vulkan, both have pros and cons, but GTX1060 can be as low as RM 1219 (if you buy via Lazada/GemFive coupon code then it can be even lower), so your call here, RX480 could be the best buy if it is priced correctly locally but AMD MY seems to be adding more nails in their coffin by pricing the card at such price tag  sweat.gif
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From my perspective, 1060 had a better score in most of general games. Like 70% 1060 has win over rx480 from those benchmarks I saw on google. How about if I save more bucks to get 1070? Or 480 CF? 1060 Sli maybe?
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 24 2016, 12:33 PM)
From my perspective, 1060 had a better score in most of general games. Like 70% 1060 has win over rx480 from those benchmarks I saw on google. How about if I save more bucks to get 1070? Or 480 CF? 1060 Sli maybe?
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if you have the budget to get 1070, why not ? haha, FYI, NVIDIA have removed SLI from 1060, so no 1060 SLI sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Aug 24 2016, 12:20 PM)
Need urgent help from old timers here!!!

I gotta buy a freaking desktop for my boss's son birthday tonight and i'm so out of time.

I have 2k in my possession now to spend for the desktop. Monitor and peripherals are already taken care of. Just the CPU unit.

Again, i need a rig recommendation and budget is 2k.

P/s: I think the ungrateful kid said to me he plays world of warcraft  and cs most of the time.
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 480
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2010 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 24 2016, 12:33 PM)
From my perspective, 1060 had a better score in most of general games. Like 70% 1060 has win over rx480 from those benchmarks I saw on google. How about if I save more bucks to get 1070? Or 480 CF? 1060 Sli maybe?
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Yea that's because most of the games are still using DX11/OpenCL API currently, only few titles like Hitman 2016 and Doom are using DX12 and Vulkan API.

If you get RX480 then it will be more future proof, probably in 2 years time and you will see it starts shining when DX12 and Vulkan take over as the main API for PC games.

If you can save more and get GTX1070, then of course it will be much better, there isn't any competitor from AMD side yet for high end GPU until Vega arrives later this year or early next year. Always go for a better single high end card instead of running multiple mid-range cards, CF/SLI issues are still there and it is not always up to the performance that we are hoping to get (bad scaling, no multiple card support etc).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 24 2016, 03:07 PM)
Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 480
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2010 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
Yea that's because most of the games are still using DX11/OpenCL API currently, only few titles like Hitman 2016 and Doom are using DX12 and Vulkan API.

If you get RX480 then it will be more future proof, probably in 2 years time and you will see it starts shining when DX12 and Vulkan take over as the main API for PC games.

If you can save more and get GTX1070, then of course it will be much better, there isn't any competitor from AMD side yet for high end GPU until Vega arrives later this year or early next year. Always go for a better single high end card instead of running multiple mid-range cards, CF/SLI issues are still there and it is not always up to the performance that we are hoping to get (bad scaling, no multiple card support etc).
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Thanks dude! U are awesome!

This is ur suggestion last week, is there anything I could replace to get a better performance?

Intel Core i7 6700K
Asus Z170M-PLUS
Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM
XFX RX 480 8GB or maybe gtx1070
Samsung 850 PRO 120GB SSD
Corsair RM650x
Corsair Hydro H100i V2
Corsair Carbide 88R
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QUOTE(1zR4eL @ Aug 24 2016, 03:47 PM)
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209

Total: RM 3467 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Aug 24 2016, 06:48 PM)
Thanks dude! U are awesome!

This is ur suggestion last week, is there anything I could replace to get a better performance?

Intel Core i7 6700K
Asus Z170M-PLUS
Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM
XFX RX 480 8GB or maybe gtx1070
Samsung 850 PRO 120GB SSD
Corsair RM650x
Corsair Hydro H100i V2
Corsair Carbide 88R
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Everything is ok now.
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Monitor resolution-Any,dosent matter
Games & softwares that use frequently:Sandbox,multiplayer,high detailed games
Personal preferences:Needs good wireless connection
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I need a better pc and im not sure which parts i should choose so i need some help
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[Budget] 4.5K (Can top up another 500 if required)

[Purpose] Gaming and .Net Development

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard

[Monitor resolution] 1080p for now (Might upgrade in future)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Overwatch, Doom, Witcher, Batman, Visual Studio 2015

[Personal preferences]

Based on the other suggestions in the thread, I came up with this list. Please recommend any changes if required.

Intel Core i5 6400
Gigabyte B150M-HD3
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 480GB SSD
Palit GTX1070 Dual Fan
NZXT S340 Mid Tower Case Window -Black/Blue
Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

[Location] Johor


I am planning to buy these online and request for postage. Can recommend me a reliable seller?
So far, I am deciding between these 3 : DotaTech, TechView IT Solution, E TECH PC
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 24 2016, 09:05 PM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209

Total: RM 3467 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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thanks for the recommendation.

but if my bro need to buy monitor, what are specs to change if need to be within the 3.5k budget.

size of monitor maybe 21 is enough as long as it 1080p

thanks
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QUOTE(r0ck_ @ Aug 24 2016, 10:14 PM)
Budget-3K max
Purpose-Gaming
Hardwares that will be re-use-Current peripherals
Monitor resolution-Any,dosent matter
Games & softwares that use frequently:Sandbox,multiplayer,high detailed games
Personal preferences:Needs good wireless connection
Location-Butterworth,Penang
I need a better pc and im not sure which parts i should choose so i need some help
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Tecware F3 - RM 125
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
AOC E2180SWDN - RM 318

Total: RM 3040 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can hunt down cheap GPU at Lazada/GemFive by using coupon code, GTX1060 can be yours as low as 1k+/-.
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QUOTE(dineshmike @ Aug 24 2016, 10:46 PM)
[Budget] 4.5K (Can top up another 500 if required)

[Purpose] Gaming and .Net Development

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard

[Monitor resolution] 1080p for now (Might upgrade in future)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Overwatch, Doom, Witcher, Batman, Visual Studio 2015

[Personal preferences]

Based on the other suggestions in the thread, I came up with this list. Please recommend any changes if required.

Intel Core i5 6400
Gigabyte B150M-HD3
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 480GB SSD
Palit GTX1070 Dual Fan
NZXT S340 Mid Tower Case Window -Black/Blue
Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

[Location] Johor
I am planning to buy these online and request for postage. Can recommend me a reliable seller?
So far, I am deciding between these 3 : DotaTech, TechView IT Solution, E TECH PC
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Mobo can switch or "upgrade" to D3H model for 4 RAM slots instead of 2.

3 of them are ok, another one to take into consideration is Idealtech smile.gif

QUOTE(1zR4eL @ Aug 24 2016, 10:51 PM)
thanks for the recommendation.

but if my bro need to buy monitor, what are specs to change if need to be within the 3.5k budget.

size of monitor maybe 21 is enough as long as it 1080p

thanks
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
AOC E2180SWDN - RM 318

Total: RM 3492 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Downgraded the CPU (still i5 though, just with lower base clock and weaker iGPU which isn't that important when you are going to get a dedicated GPU) and dropped the SSD.
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[Purpose] Gaming and ENTERTAINMENT

[Hardwares that will be re-use] NONE

[Monitor resolution] 1440P 144HZ (PREDATOR XB271HU)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] GTA 5 AND UP COMING GAMES

[Personal preferences] PREFER WHITE THEMES(CASE-PHANTEKS LUXE WHITE,COOLING-Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler White)

NEED SOME ADVICE ON WHICH HARDWARE OR RBAND SHOULD I GO?
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QUOTE(PsychoHDxMachine @ Aug 25 2016, 12:15 AM)
[Budget] RM 10 000.00 (CPU WITH MONITOR)

[Purpose] Gaming and ENTERTAINMENT

[Hardwares that will be re-use] NONE

[Monitor resolution] 1440P 144HZ (PREDATOR XB271HU)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] GTA 5 AND UP COMING GAMES

[Personal preferences] PREFER WHITE THEMES(CASE-PHANTEKS LUXE WHITE,COOLING-Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler White)

NEED SOME ADVICE ON WHICH HARDWARE OR RBAND SHOULD I GO?
MOBO (PREFER WHITE COLOUR)
PROCESSOR (I5 6500/6600)
RAM
PSU
GPU (GTX1080, DILEMMA ON WHICH BRAND)
SSD AND HARD DRIVE
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New batch of Phanteks case is coming soon, pending ETA.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H170 Pro 4 - RM 514
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Gigabyte GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X G1 Gaming - RM 3120
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Phanteks Eclipse P400S White - RM 389
Acer Predator XB271HU - RM 3299 (Free headset)

Total: RM 9774 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Not entirely sure if Phanteks Luxe White is coming in together with other models or not so I used the new Eclipse P400S in the list for the time being, you can try to ask the seller for stock availability.

Phanteks CPU cooler isn't available in Malaysia, another choice is Cryorig CPU cooler (look for Idealtech), it also comes with white color to suit your white theme.

The mobo picked isn't full white color, another option would be Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949), a bit pricey for me just to get onboard with white theme sweat.gif

RAM can be changed to Corsair Vengeance LPX White at additional cost, please take note that only Z170 mobo can take advantage of RAM speed of > 2133MHz, H110/B150/H170 will downgrade the RAM speed to 2133MHz automatically.

PSU cable mod is also available for full white theme cable, price should be around RM 100+/-, the package includes standard ATX 24 pin cable, EPS cable and PCIe cables.

QUOTE(abangmanis @ Aug 25 2016, 02:10 AM)
where did u get that graphic card on etech?
i cant find that model on etech lelong, i can only see 460 and 480 no 470
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Most likely they missed out the 470, the stock arrived around 10 days ago and the price (RRP) is set by local distributor/AMD.

Please consult them via PM.
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hi asking for a friend here. need rig and monitor only.

[Budget] RM 2.5k

[Purpose] gaming, browsing

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] witcher 3, mortal kombat x, evil within

[Personal preferences] mini itx casing (limited space)
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[Purpose]Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor keyboard and mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] witcher 3
Dota 2 and tombraider

[Location]KL

Thanks

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[quote=terence_nwb,Aug 25 2016, 10:26 AM]
New batch of Phanteks case is coming soon, pending ETA.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H170 Pro 4 - RM 514 -> Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949)
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290-> 16GB[2x8G] Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHz C16, Color: White
Gigabyte GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X G1 Gaming - RM 3120-> Dilemma between Palit or Zotac (some got premium or extreme)
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409-> any other brands? (corsair or CM?)
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255 -> Samsung Evo 850 250GB
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Phanteks Eclipse P400S White - RM 389 ->Phanteks Luxe White
Acer Predator XB271HU - RM 3299 (Free headset)

Total: RM 9774 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Not entirely sure if Phanteks Luxe White is coming in together with other models or not so I used the new Eclipse P400S in the list for the time being, you can try to ask the seller for stock availability.

Phanteks CPU cooler isn't available in Malaysia, another choice is Cryorig CPU cooler (look for Idealtech), it also comes with white color to suit your white theme.

The mobo picked isn't full white color, another option would be Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949), a bit pricey for me just to get onboard with white theme sweat.gif

RAM can be changed to Corsair Vengeance LPX White at additional cost, please take note that only Z170 mobo can take advantage of RAM speed of > 2133MHz, H110/B150/H170 will downgrade the RAM speed to 2133MHz automatically.

Psu review for corsair rm750x
Cons*
Choice of capacitors in the secondary side
The fan engages rather late
Limited functionality of the Corsair Link software because the PSU isn't digitally controlled
3.3V performance in Advanced Transient Response tests
Corsair Digital Bridge not in the bundle, but including it would raise the price ..
Is it really matter? Kinda newbie on this.

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QUOTE(VanillaThunder18 @ Aug 25 2016, 12:09 PM)
hi asking for a friend here. need rig and monitor only.

[Budget] RM 2.5k

[Purpose] gaming, browsing

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] witcher 3, mortal kombat x, evil within

[Personal preferences] mini itx casing (limited space)
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Zotac GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 620
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
CM Elite 130 - RM 178
BenQ GW2270 - RM 379

Total: RM 2482 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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B][Budget]RM3200

[Purpose]Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor keyboard and mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] witcher 3
Dota 2  and tombraider

[Location]KL

Thanks
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3204 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

SSD can be added later when you have more funds.
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QUOTE(PsychoHDxMachine @ Aug 25 2016, 01:02 PM)
New batch of Phanteks case is coming soon, pending ETA.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H170 Pro 4 - RM 514 -> Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949)
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290-> 16GB[2x8G] Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHz C16, Color: White
Gigabyte GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X G1 Gaming - RM 3120-> Dilemma between Palit or Zotac (some got premium or extreme)
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409-> any other brands? (corsair or CM?)
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255 -> Samsung Evo 850 250GB
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Phanteks Eclipse P400S White - RM 389 ->Phanteks Luxe White
Acer Predator XB271HU - RM 3299 (Free headset)

Total: RM 9774 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Not entirely sure if Phanteks Luxe White is coming in together with other models or not so I used the new Eclipse P400S in the list for the time being, you can try to ask the seller for stock availability.

Phanteks CPU cooler isn't available in Malaysia, another choice is Cryorig CPU cooler (look for Idealtech), it also comes with white color to suit your white theme.

The mobo picked isn't full white color, another option would be Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949), a bit pricey for me just to get onboard with white theme  sweat.gif

RAM can be changed to Corsair Vengeance LPX White at additional cost, please take note that only Z170 mobo can take advantage of RAM speed of > 2133MHz, H110/B150/H170 will downgrade the RAM speed to 2133MHz automatically.

Psu review for corsair rm750x
Cons*
Choice of capacitors in the secondary side
The fan engages rather late
Limited functionality of the Corsair Link software because the PSU isn't digitally controlled
3.3V performance in Advanced Transient Response tests
Corsair Digital Bridge not in the bundle, but including it would raise the price ..
Is it really matter? Kinda newbie on this.
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The price difference for Palit and Zotac GTX1080 is quite big, Palit one can be as low as RM 2960 for Jetstream version (runs on stock speed) while Zotac starts at RM 3219 for AMP version. Gigabyte G1 is in between both of them and comes with factory overclocked settings.

There is no PSU that can beat the Superflower Leadex Gold at RM 409 (or within the similar price range) at the moment, it is a tier 1 PSU. CM V series is also under tier 1 but it requires you to make some top up, V550S/VS650S is semi modular and V650 is fully modular, go for fully modular unit if you aim to change the PSU cables to white cable mod for your white color theme.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 24 2016, 11:32 PM)
Mobo can switch or "upgrade" to D3H model for 4 RAM slots instead of 2.

3 of them are ok, another one to take into consideration is Idealtech  smile.gif
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 1459
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
AOC E2180SWDN - RM 318

Total: RM 3492 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Downgraded the CPU (still i5 though, just with lower base clock and weaker iGPU which isn't that important when you are going to get a dedicated GPU) and dropped the SSD.
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Thank you for your suggestion. Totally forgot about IdealTech doh.gif

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hi asking for a friend here, RIG only biggrin.gif

[Budget] RM2800

[Purpose] Rendering and Gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CS6, Lumion 6, Sketchup, AAA games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Asus Strix GTX1070

[Personal preferences] i7 and 16Gb of ram and a decent corsair psu maybe ?

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Hye.. i want to build a gaming rig... help.. thanks

[B][Budget] Rm 5000

[Purpose]Graphic design & Gaming (current & future AAA games)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution] 24' full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Rise of thomb rider & evolve & etc

[Personal preferences] performance and casing is super cool

[Location] kuala lumpur
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Budget : around 3k max
Purpose : Gaming
Hardwares that will be re-use : GTX 970, 2x1TB HDD, 24" 1080p monitor, keyboard + mouse, headphone/speakers
Games & softwares that use frequently: mostly open world rpg/fps
Personal preferences:a good case +decent cooling (NZXT maybe?), SSD,
Location-sarawak/kl

thanks!

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 25 2016, 03:39 PM)
The price difference for Palit and Zotac GTX1080 is quite big, Palit one can be as low as RM 2960 for Jetstream version (runs on stock speed) while Zotac starts at RM 3219 for AMP version. Gigabyte G1 is in between both of them and comes with factory overclocked settings.

There is no PSU that can beat the Superflower Leadex Gold at RM 409 (or within the similar price range) at the moment, it is a tier 1 PSU. CM V series is also under tier 1 but it requires you to make some top up, V550S/VS650S is semi modular and V650 is fully modular, go for fully modular unit if you aim to change the PSU cables to white cable mod for your white color theme.
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If i chose Seasonic M12-II 750W PSU? Will it be sufficient? overall performance?
the price kinda attractive as well.
terence_nwb

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Aug 25 2016, 04:02 PM)
hi asking for a friend here, RIG only  biggrin.gif

[Budget] RM2800

[Purpose] Rendering and Gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CS6, Lumion 6, Sketchup, AAA games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Asus Strix GTX1070

[Personal preferences] i7 and 16Gb of ram and a decent corsair psu maybe ?
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2842 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Unfortunately decent Corsair PSU (at least RMx series) starts from RM 500+, over budget sweat.gif

And SSD is not included due to budget constraint.
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QUOTE(freva_elle @ Aug 25 2016, 06:31 PM)
Hye.. i want to build a gaming rig... help.. thanks

[B][Budget] Rm 5000

[Purpose]Graphic design & Gaming (current & future AAA games)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution] 24' full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Rise of thomb rider & evolve & etc

[Personal preferences] performance and casing is super cool

[Location] kuala lumpur
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Gamerock - RM 2099
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 5013 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(zyulander @ Aug 25 2016, 09:48 PM)
Budget : around 3k max
Purpose : Gaming
Hardwares that will be re-use : GTX 970, 2x1TB HDD, 24" 1080p monitor, keyboard + mouse, headphone/speakers
Games & softwares that use frequently: mostly open world rpg/fps
Personal preferences:a good case +decent cooling (NZXT maybe?), SSD,
Location-sarawak/kl

thanks!
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
NZXT S340 - RM 315

Total: RM 2919 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If the case is out of stock, then you will need to pick another model.
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QUOTE(PsychoHDxMachine @ Aug 25 2016, 10:28 PM)
If i chose Seasonic M12-II 750W PSU? Will it be sufficient? overall performance?
the price kinda attractive as well.
terence_nwb
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Just FYI, the whole system draw for the specs listed is around 400W (max), average around 300W when gaming so getting a 750W will be a little bit overkill.

Back to the topic, in overall the Seasonic PSU model listed by you is ok and enough for the specs listed.
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Just building a new RIG

[Budget] Around rm5000

[Purpose] Video Editing and Triple A Gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p, future upgrading to 4k

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Premiere Pro, Photostop, Illustrator, Triple A title games such as Witcher 3.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] LG IPS236 monitor, keyboard + mouse, headphone/speakers

[Personal preferences] i7 and GTX1080 if applicable. I don't mind a i5/GTX1070 if you think it's better for overall performance+moneyvalue.

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QUOTE(Fabonacci @ Aug 26 2016, 09:16 AM)
Just building a new RIG

[Budget] Around rm5000

[Purpose] Video Editing and Triple A Gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p, future upgrading to 4k

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Premiere Pro, Photostop, Illustrator, Triple A title games such as Witcher 3.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] LG IPS236 monitor, keyboard + mouse, headphone/speakers

[Personal preferences] i7 and GTX1080 if applicable. I don't mind a i5/GTX1070 if you think it's better for overall performance+moneyvalue.
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i7 + GTX1080 is going to cost you at least 4.3k already so that's impossible when you still have to allocate some budget for the rest of the components.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Gamerock - RM 2099
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
NZXT S340 - RM 315

Total: RM 4918 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 25 2016, 11:00 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2842 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Unfortunately decent Corsair PSU (at least RMx series) starts from RM 500+, over budget  sweat.gif

And SSD is not included due to budget constraint.
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tq for the quote, if my friend change the psu to silverstone gold and CM K380 chassis, still compatible right ?
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tq for the quote, if my friend change the psu to silverstone gold and CM K380 chassis, still compatible right ?
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[Budget] 2300

[Purpose] Triple A Gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Triple A title games such as Rise of Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, PES 2016

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard and mouse

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Intel Unveils The 600P M.2 SSD Series; Priced From RM277

https://www.lowyat.net/2016/112775/intel-un...ced-from-rm277/

WOW the 256gb version is fast 1570mbps and affordable RM420

Terrance
does that mean if i have a laptop that supports m.2 it can handle those speeds.

what about the cheapest skylake mobo that have m.2?
is there an adapter to connect m.2 ssd to mobo and can handle fast speeds? how much adapter?
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thanks in advance

[Budget] 2300

[Purpose] Triple A Gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]  Triple A title games such as Rise of Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, PES 2016

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard and mouse

[Personal preferences]
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2312 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If the GPU has no stock (most likely), you can either wait for it or swap to other model (require top up).

QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Aug 26 2016, 10:50 PM)
Intel Unveils The 600P M.2 SSD Series; Priced From RM277

https://www.lowyat.net/2016/112775/intel-un...ced-from-rm277/

WOW the 256gb version is fast 1570mbps and affordable RM420

Terrance
does that mean if i have a laptop that supports m.2 it can handle those speeds.

what about the cheapest skylake mobo that have m.2?
is there an adapter to connect m.2 ssd to mobo and can handle fast speeds? how much adapter?
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That one is sequential read and it is not representing the whole thing, we still have to see the 4K random read/write speed which we deal quite a lot daily, but overall the specs is fine, hopefully the price is fine too when it reaches here.

Some compatible mobo require BIOS update, some don't, some can use M.2 SSD as boot disk, some don't, so need to check the compatibility first before buying it, so far there are few B150 chipset mobo which come with M.2 PCIe SSD support, price starts from RM 350+/-.

If the chipset is supported then most likely it will be able to run this SSD, this applies to both laptop and desktop.

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[Purpose] Gaming only

[Hardwares that will be re-use] i3 Sandy Bridge, 4gb Ram (Compaq Presario CQ3614D) + FSP500-50HNN Power supply

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] PES and FIFA

[Personal preferences] currently, pc no graphic card. need graphic card around Rm600 price range that suitable with i3 sandy bridge without any serious bottleneck issue.

[Location] PEN

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[Budget] +-Rm600

[Purpose] Gaming only

[Hardwares that will be re-use] i3 Sandy Bridge, 4gb Ram (Compaq Presario CQ3614D) + FSP500-50HNN Power supply

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] PES and FIFA

[Personal preferences] currently, pc no graphic card. need graphic card around Rm600 price range that suitable with i3 sandy bridge without any serious bottleneck issue.

[Location] PEN
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Your best buy would be Palit or Zotac GTX950, priced slightly over RM 600.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 25 2016, 11:00 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2842 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Unfortunately decent Corsair PSU (at least RMx series) starts from RM 500+, over budget  sweat.gif

And SSD is not included due to budget constraint.
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hi terence, as my friend want to change the chassis to Corsair 400C and he will change the mobo to Z170 Mortar. Is it compatible with all of the hardware stated before ? Ive seen the case, and I'm sure Strix 1070 will fit inside. How about the mobo ? as I'm not sure what is the most proper size mobo that can be put inside the case sweat.gif

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hi terence, as my friend want to change the chassis to Corsair 400C and he will change the mobo to Z170 Mortar. Is it compatible with all of the hardware stated before ? Ive seen the case, and I'm sure Strix 1070 will  fit inside. How about the mobo ? as I'm not sure what is the most proper size mobo that can be put inside the case  sweat.gif
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Can fit.
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Is it possible, with a budget 3.5k to put a rig with i7 and a dedicated GPU that can support Lumion 6 ? Pls include a monitor too, do notify me if it is impossible due to budget constraint sweat.gif

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[Budget] MYR3500

[Purpose] Gaming - BF4 & CS:GO

[Hardwares that will be re-use] keyboard & Mouse

[Monitor resolution] Planning 27"

[Games & softwares that use frequently] BF4 & CS:GO


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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Aug 27 2016, 10:52 PM)
Is it possible, with a budget 3.5k to put a rig with i7 and a dedicated GPU that can support Lumion 6 ? Pls include a monitor too, do notify me if it is impossible due to budget constraint  sweat.gif
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Gigabyte RX460 4GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 659
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 3505 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Of course if you can add more budget then it will be better, if your workload in Lumion is mostly heavy/complex scene then you are recommended to get a better GPU like GTX1060 6GB/RX480 8GB etc.
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QUOTE(Coconut @ Aug 28 2016, 12:29 AM)
hi, please recommend

[Budget] MYR3500

[Purpose] Gaming - BF4 & CS:GO

[Hardwares that will be re-use] keyboard & Mouse

[Monitor resolution] Planning 27"

[Games & softwares that use frequently] BF4 & CS:GO
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Those games listed are best played on a 144Hz monitor.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 999
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
Acer XB240H 144Hz - RM 952

Total: RM 3675 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Over budget, but it can be used as a reference for 144Hz build.

You can either top up your budget or swap to a normal 60Hz monitor, if you choose to stick with 27" (I won't go for 27" if the resolution is still 1080p, too pixelated if sit too close to the monitor) then you can go for Acer R271 (RM 849), if you choose 24" then you can add a 120/240GB SSD.
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I am planning to buy a new rig with very limited budget. The main purpose is for FIFA and a few adobe software. (Photoshop, illustrator & indesign). Planning to learn about after effects in the future. Can I get a decent rig for below rm 2000. The recommended requirement for FIFA is as below

OS: Windows 7/8.1/10 - 64-Bit
CPU: Intel i5-3550K @ 3.40GHz or AMD FX 8150 @ 3.6GHz
RAM: 8GB
Hard Drive Space Required: 50.0 GB
Minimum Supported Video Cards: NVIDIA GTX 660 or AMD Radeon R9 270






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hi,

I am planning to buy a new rig with very limited budget. The main purpose is for FIFA and a few adobe software. (Photoshop, illustrator & indesign). Planning to learn about after effects in the future. Can I get a decent rig for below rm 2000. The recommended requirement for FIFA is  as below

OS: Windows 7/8.1/10 - 64-Bit
CPU: Intel i5-3550K @ 3.40GHz or AMD FX 8150 @ 3.6GHz
RAM: 8GB
Hard Drive Space Required: 50.0 GB
Minimum Supported Video Cards: NVIDIA GTX 660 or AMD Radeon R9 270
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Honest speaking, decent rig with 2k budget? No.

The system requirements stated by you is recommended system specs I believe and it would take you around 3k+/-.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 625
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2012 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Hi again, smile.gif

Already saved up the target budget for my new rig, thus need sifu guidance for the best bag for the buck built.


[Budget] MYR 8000 (can top up RM 200 if worth it)

[Purpose] Gaming - Tripple AAA games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Wifi USB adapter

[Monitor resolution] Currently 1080p, but planning to go for Acer X34 mid next month

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, etc (demanding games), Windows 10 will be purchase separately.

[Personal preferences] i7 6700/6700k, GTX 1080 (Preferably Asus Strix)

[Location] Melaka (Thus please suggest pricing based on local shop available here such as Jayacom or Thunder Match)

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Hi, need help to suggest for custom rig

[Budget] MYR5k

[Purpose] Gaming on high resolution

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Nothing

[Monitor resolution] 27 ips 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Donno yet

[Personal preferences] i7 6700

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QUOTE(elune84 @ Aug 28 2016, 10:59 PM)
Hi again, smile.gif

Already saved up the target budget for my new rig, thus need sifu guidance for the best bag for the buck built.
[Budget] MYR 8000 (can top up RM 200 if worth it)

[Purpose] Gaming - Tripple AAA games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Wifi USB adapter

[Monitor resolution] Currently 1080p, but planning to go for Acer X34 mid next month

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, etc (demanding games), Windows 10 will be purchase separately.

[Personal preferences] i7 6700/6700k, GTX 1080 (Preferably Asus Strix)

[Location] Melaka (Thus please suggest pricing based on local shop available here such as Jayacom or Thunder Match)

Thanks once again. rclxm9.gif
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If you want best bang for the bucks setup, then you shouldn't even consider Asus Strix, you need to fork out extra ~15% just for the brand name sweat.gif

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1509
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - RM 779
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 399
Asus GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X Strix - RM 3619
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 279
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
CM V650 - RM 479
Corsair Hydro H100i GTX - RM 619
NZXT S340 - RM 315

Total: RM 8217 (Jayacom price inclusive of GST)

I doubt that Melaka outlet(s) will have all the items stated above (as in ready stock) and there is a new refreshed model for the mobo picked above with "Aura" branding at the back, but I cannot find it in the price list, please check with them yourself for stock availability and pricing.

P/S: The cooler is extremely expensive compared with the one sold in KV area (around RM 100+/-).
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QUOTE(zedscofield86 @ Aug 29 2016, 06:43 AM)
Hi, need help to suggest for custom rig

[Budget] MYR5k

[Purpose] Gaming on high resolution

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Nothing

[Monitor resolution] 27 ips 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Donno yet

[Personal preferences] i7 6700
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Hmm you wrote "gaming on high resolution" as purpose but 1080p in monitor resolution column, how is it considered as high resolution when 1080p has been the mainstream gaming resolution since decades ago, I though it gonna be at least 2k or 4k sweat.gif

And you asked for custom rig but in hardware to be re-used column is "nothing", so you need a new monitor too?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 29 2016, 10:35 AM)
Hmm you wrote "gaming on high resolution" as purpose but 1080p in monitor resolution column, how is it considered as high resolution when 1080p has been the mainstream gaming resolution since decades ago, I though it gonna be at least 2k or 4k  sweat.gif 

And you asked for custom rig but in hardware to be re-used column is "nothing", so you need a new monitor too?
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Sorry terence, i just missed that column. Monitor is not included in 5k budget.

I just want to setup new rig only, not included monitor. Just rig for 5k. Any recommendations?
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QUOTE(zedscofield86 @ Aug 29 2016, 09:49 AM)
Sorry terence, i just missed that column. Monitor is not included in 5k budget. 

I just want to setup new rig only, not included monitor. Just rig for 5k. Any recommendations?
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Nah don't have to feel or say sorry, I am just confused when people here say "rig" but then monitor isn't included in the hardware to re-use list biggrin.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Gamerock - RM 2099
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 4941 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

To add in a 120/240GB SSD, you can downgrade the RAM to 8GB (RM 145) and mobo to mATX (like Gigabyte B150M-D3H, RM 379) or just top up your budget if you want to stick with the build above.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 29 2016, 11:00 AM)
Nah don't have to feel or say sorry, I am just confused when people here say "rig" but then monitor isn't included in the hardware to re-use list  biggrin.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Gamerock - RM 2099
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 4941 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

To add in a 120/240GB SSD, you can downgrade the RAM to 8GB (RM 145) and mobo to mATX (like Gigabyte B150M-D3H, RM 379) or just top up your budget if you want to stick with the build above.
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Hi thanks for the advice. If not asus strix what other better option is there. I am open for any. I saw the asus with aura branding at the shop but cannot remember the model for that mobo..

QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 29 2016, 10:31 AM)
If you want best bang for the bucks setup, then you shouldn't even consider Asus Strix, you need to fork out extra ~15% just for the brand name  sweat.gif

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1509
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - RM 779
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 399
Asus GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X Strix - RM 3619
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 279
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
CM V650 - RM 479
Corsair Hydro H100i GTX - RM 619
NZXT S340 - RM 315

Total: RM 8217 (Jayacom price inclusive of GST)

I doubt that Melaka outlet(s) will have all the items stated above (as in ready stock) and there is a new refreshed model for the mobo picked above with "Aura" branding at the back, but I cannot find it in the price list, please check with them yourself for stock availability and pricing.

P/S: The cooler is extremely expensive compared with the one sold in KV area (around RM 100+/-).
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Your best buy would be Palit or Zotac GTX950, priced slightly over RM 600.
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Mobo : Compaq Presario CQ3614D mobo (1 PCI Express x16)
Ram : 2+2gb value ram (later upgrade 8gb)
GC : Zotac GTX 950 Low Power 2GB DDR5
PSU : FSP500-50HNN

This spec should be good for PES and FIFA right?
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QUOTE(elune84 @ Aug 29 2016, 10:55 AM)
Hi thanks for the advice. If not asus strix what other better option is there. I am open for any. I saw the asus with aura branding at the shop but cannot remember the model for that mobo..
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Value in money - Palit Gamerock/Super Jetstream (around 3k+/-)
Mid range - EVGA ACX 3.0, Zotac AMP!, Gigabyte G1 Gaming, Asus Turbo (from 3.1k - 3.4k)

Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura, last time they started the Aura series with B150I.
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QUOTE(cactusjack @ Aug 29 2016, 11:00 AM)
Proc : i3-2100
Mobo : Compaq Presario CQ3614D mobo (1 PCI Express x16)
Ram : 2+2gb value ram (later upgrade 8gb)
GC : Zotac GTX 950 Low Power 2GB DDR5
PSU : FSP500-50HNN

This spec should be good for PES and FIFA right?
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Depends on what settings you want to run, if don't mind low/mid then should be fine.
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Hi just want to ask any sifu here if going for itx build without monitor, i7 6700 + GTX 1070 possible under RM4k? if get cheapest everything. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(afeeqo120 @ Aug 29 2016, 11:46 AM)
Hi just want to ask any sifu here if going for itx build without monitor,  i7 6700 + GTX 1070 possible under RM4k? if get cheapest everything.  hmm.gif
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Impossible unless you have hardware to reuse (HDD/PSU etc.) or switch to i5.
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Impossible unless you have hardware to reuse (HDD/PSU etc.) or switch to i5.
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I see, how about i7 6700 + GTX 1070 and cheapest itx Mobo, 8gb RAM,PSU & ITX case that can find. Possible under RM4k for these 6 items. Really trying to push the boundaries here hmm.gif
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QUOTE(afeeqo120 @ Aug 29 2016, 12:29 PM)
I see, how about i7 6700 + GTX 1070 and cheapest itx Mobo, 8gb RAM,PSU & ITX case that can find. Possible under RM4k for these 6 items. Really trying to push the boundaries here  hmm.gif
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Will still over budget by a little bit unless you hunt for GTX1070 at GemFive (discount up to 12% with coupon code).
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Will still over budget by a little bit unless you hunt for GTX1070 at GemFive (discount up to 12% with coupon code).
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Can i see the build and over by how much want to see if can make adjustments. thumbsup.gif
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Can i see the build and over by how much want to see if can make adjustments.  thumbsup.gif
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Alright adjusted the build to make it as close to 4k as possible.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
CM Elite 130 - RM 178

Total: RM 4014 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Non-modular PSU in a mITX case = tough job for cable management and create unwanted heat being trapped inside the case (high temperature and collect dust overtime), fully modular PSU is more recommended.


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hi sifu

my cpu temp has finally reached 80c while playing witcher 3. need suggestion on a good cpu cooler for i5 4460.

my case dimension is 185 x 429 x 470 WxHxD
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QUOTE(ssxcool @ Aug 29 2016, 03:38 PM)
hi sifu

my cpu temp has finally reached 80c while playing witcher 3. need suggestion on a good cpu cooler for i5 4460.

my case dimension is 185 x 429 x 470 WxHxD
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Bitfenix Neos? Get Cryorig H7 to be safe.
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hi guys, newbs here and just want to owned gaming rig, 1st gaming rig ever
yes, i don't want to have life anymore, i want to die with pc, LOL, just kidding tongue.gif


[Budget] around rm8000 , max rm8500, if can go cheaper, nice laa, i can use for other accessories

[Purpose] Gaming - Tripple AAA games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] want 1080p, confuse either 27inch or 24inch, what pros and cons?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, etc (demanding games)

[Personal preferences] OC not intended, play latest game and future proof plus with some photo+video editting for youtube upload, i heard if get xeon is cheaper than i7

please include monitor, case(not a fancy one)

[Location] kL

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ya. thanks for the suggestion. but can i ask how do u remove the cpu fan pin connector? cuz i try to wiggle out seems like the pin got stuck. i force until mobo terangkat already. any tips?
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QUOTE(dexaran @ Aug 29 2016, 05:28 PM)
hi guys, newbs here and just want to owned gaming rig, 1st gaming rig ever
yes, i don't want to have life anymore, i want to die with pc, LOL, just kidding tongue.gif
[Budget] around rm8000 , max rm8500, if can go cheaper, nice laa, i can use for other accessories

[Purpose] Gaming - Tripple AAA games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] want 1080p, confuse either 27inch or 24inch, what pros and cons?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, etc (demanding games)

[Personal preferences] OC not intended, play latest game and future proof plus with some photo+video editting for youtube upload, i heard if get xeon is cheaper than i7

please include monitor, case(not a fancy one)

[Location] kL

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Xeon isn't cheaper than i7 already when Intel decided to throw in some requirements to run Xeon CPU in Skylake, it requires C232 chipset mobo which isn't cheap to get (for budget build), i7 is still more preferred due to slightly higher clock speed than Xeon E3 1230 V5.

24" for 1080p and 27" for 1440p is the perfect match, since you want to stick with 1080p, so just get a 24", not saying you cannot invest in a 27" 1080p monitor, but it is too "pixelated" for me due to much lower PPI.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 AMP! - RM 2219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485
Acer Predator XB241H GSync - RM 1899

Total: RM 7561 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I included a GSync monitor in the build list, it is pricey but comes with GSync and 180Hz feature, if you aren't looking for high frequency and GSync enabled monitor, you can swap to a normal TN 60Hz (around RM 500+) or IPS 60Hz (around RM 700 - RM 1000) or just get a normal TN 144Hz monitor (around RM 1000), and yea you can go for 27" too if you insist to board 27" train nod.gif

QUOTE(ssxcool @ Aug 29 2016, 06:10 PM)
ya. thanks for the suggestion. but can i ask how do u remove the cpu fan pin connector? cuz i try to wiggle out seems like the pin got stuck. i force until mobo terangkat already. any tips?
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Try to pry up from one of the side first, if you haven't removed it before then it is quite hard to remove for the first time.
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[B][Budget] 1.5k-2k

[Purpose] Gaming and Constant tabing in and out from game.
League Of Legend 60fps at max settings.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Gtx 750ti, BenQ Gw2470h

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] League of Legends

[Personal preferences] Ssd if possible

[Location] Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Aug 29 2016, 09:30 PM)
[B][Budget] 1.5k-2k

[Purpose] Gaming and Constant tabing in and out from game.
League Of Legend 60fps at max settings.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Gtx 750ti, BenQ Gw2470h

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] League of Legends

[Personal preferences] Ssd if possible

[Location] Kuala Lumpur
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Copied and pasted the previous suggestion from your thread and added the price.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 165
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1552 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Hi All.

Can we customise an AIO?

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Hi All.

Can we customise an AIO?

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Your "customize" as in? Change the water block/pump/pipe? If yes then no, AIO means all in one.

For the above customization, please go for custom water block path.
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Your "customize" as in? Change the water block/pump/pipe? If yes then no, AIO means all in one.

For the above customization, please go for custom water block path.
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Allow me to help him ask since he posted a topic in Kopitiam. Can you recommend him a M-ITX build with a touchscreen monitor with similar/superior specs below for preferably less than S$2k/RM6k?

Intel® Core™ i7-6700T
Windows 10 Home 64
AMD Radeon R7 A360 (4 GB DDR3 dedicated)
16 GB DDR3L (2 x 8 GB)
2 TB 5400 rpm SATA

HP Pav 27-n201d AiO PC

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Allow me to help him ask since he posted a topic in Kopitiam. Can you recommend him a M-ITX build with a touchscreen monitor with similar/superior specs below for preferably less than S$2k/RM6k?

Intel® Core™ i7-6700T
Windows 10 Home 64
AMD Radeon R7 A360 (4 GB DDR3 dedicated)
16 GB DDR3L (2 x 8 GB)
2 TB 5400 rpm SATA

HP Pav 27-n201d AiO PC
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Oh AIO PC, I thought he was asking for water cooler AIO doh.gif

What's the purpose of this AIO PC? POST system? bb100
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QUOTE(TenSou @ Aug 30 2016, 01:55 PM)
Allow me to help him ask since he posted a topic in Kopitiam. Can you recommend him a M-ITX build with a touchscreen monitor with similar/superior specs below for preferably less than S$2k/RM6k?

Intel® Core™ i7-6700T
Windows 10 Home 64
AMD Radeon R7 A360 (4 GB DDR3 dedicated)
16 GB DDR3L (2 x 8 GB)
2 TB 5400 rpm SATA

HP Pav 27-n201d AiO PC
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Oh AIO PC, I thought he was asking for water cooler AIO  doh.gif

What's the purpose of this AIO PC? POST system? bb100
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 12:36 PM)
Nvidia card which one you recommend bero?

I don't play games.

Only watch movie, use SolidWorks and AutoCAD.

No video editing also.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 02:09 PM)
Oh AIO PC, I thought he was asking for water cooler AIO  doh.gif

What's the purpose of this AIO PC? POST system? bb100
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Ya lohh.

AIO PC.

AIO besides all-in-one got other meaning mehh?

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This one is for home use wan.

Then for SolidWorks and AutoCAD modelling lohh.

No gaming cuz ayam not a gamer boi.

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If I die die wanna stick with AIO form factor, can ahh?

Cuz if got CPU very ma fan.

If cannot hohh, can I upgrade the hardware in my AIO ahh?

For example, the HP AIO comes with a rather useless GPU (AMD Radeon R7 A360).

Can I discard that GPU and upgrade to a better one?

Thank you bero!!!
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 02:25 PM)
Ya lohh.

AIO PC.

AIO besides all-in-one got other meaning mehh?

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This one is for home use wan.

Then for SolidWorks and AutoCAD modelling lohh.

No gaming cuz ayam not a gamer boi.

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If I die die wanna stick with AIO form factor, can ahh?

Cuz if got CPU very ma fan.

If cannot hohh, can I upgrade the hardware in my AIO ahh?

For example, the HP AIO comes with a rather useless GPU (AMD Radeon R7 A360).

Can I discard that GPU and upgrade to a better one?

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As mentioned before, it can be AIO water cooler, not just AIO PC, AIO stands for All In One and can have many meanings, and if you write AIO in this thread, most of us will refer to water cooler AIO first as this is a "rig suggestion" thread.

Get a mITX rig if you want to save space or easy to carry around, it can be very small and cost efficient than AIO, but if you want to stick with AIO then I don't think it is customizable from factory side, but you can remove the internal components and get them replaced with what you want if they allow you to do so without voiding the warranty, clearance is also an issue where huge or large GPU might not be able to fit in the case, another one to take note is the PSU, most of these AIO PC come with OEM SFF PSU which cannot be upgraded at all mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 02:52 PM)
As mentioned before, it can be AIO water cooler, not just AIO PC, AIO stands for All In One and can have many meanings, and if you write AIO in this thread, most of us will refer to water cooler AIO first as this is a "rig suggestion" thread.

Get a mITX rig if you want to save space or easy to carry around, it can be very small and cost efficient than AIO, but if you want to stick with AIO then I don't think it is customizable from factory side, but you can remove the internal components and get them replaced with what you want if they allow you to do so without voiding the warranty, clearance is also an issue where huge or large GPU might not be able to fit in the case, another one to take note is the PSU, most of these AIO PC come with OEM SFF PSU which cannot be upgraded at all  mega_shok.gif
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/k/ also got many people suggested me to go with that mini ITX casing.

How small can it be ehh if the specs same with the HP AIO PC, except the GPU?

Also with that specs how cheap can it go ehh?

Got any 27-inch touchscreen monitor around ahh you can recommend?
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 02:59 PM)
/k/ also got many people suggested me to go with that mini ITX casing.

How small can it be ehh if the specs same with the HP AIO PC, except the GPU?

Also with that specs how cheap can it go ehh?

Got any 27-inch touchscreen monitor around ahh you can recommend?
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if u want customize AIO u can try something like this
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/quitepc-mono-...-pc-25-09-2014/
https://asksender.com/ces-2016-maingear-alp...-gaming-system/
i saw one PC shop in jaya one PJ got carry something like this
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can someone make this clear for me?

i've googled about proccesor, i read a post about "buying new mobo for i3 4170, most of them need BIOS update"

cant we just pairing i3 4170 with any 1150 mobo? it should turns on right? what is BIOS update?
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 02:59 PM)
/k/ also got many people suggested me to go with that mini ITX casing.

How small can it be ehh if the specs same with the HP AIO PC, except the GPU?

Also with that specs how cheap can it go ehh?

Got any 27-inch touchscreen monitor around ahh you can recommend?
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6700T is an OEM CPU and not available in consumer market generally, so I picked 6700 instead, it runs faster than T version.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
CM Elite 110 - RM 159

Total: RM 4206 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Acer T272HL - RM 1699

Total: RM 5905

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QUOTE(zellix @ Aug 30 2016, 03:15 PM)
can someone make this clear for me?

i've googled about proccesor, i read a post about "buying new mobo for i3 4170, most of them need BIOS update"

cant we just pairing i3 4170 with any 1150 mobo? it should turns on right? what is BIOS update?
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i3 4170 only works on LGA1150 socket mobo and yes, if you buy those older chipset mobo like H87/Z87 then you need to update the BIOS.

BIOS update works the same like the Windows update (for new features/bug fix/patch etc.)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 03:26 PM)
i3 4170 only works on LGA1150 socket mobo and yes, if you buy those older chipset mobo like H87/Z87 then you need to update the BIOS.

BIOS update works the same like the Windows update (for new features/bug fix/patch etc.)
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how about i3 4170 with asus b85m-g ? still need bios update? if yes, just update it normally? turn on the pc > update bios > done?

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 03:23 PM)
6700T is an OEM CPU and not available in consumer market generally, so I picked 6700 instead, it runs faster than T version.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
CM Elite 110 - RM 159

Total: RM 4206 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Acer T272HL - RM 1699

Total: RM 5905
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How big is the casing bero?

Got a comparison picture or something?

Macam the casing and an orange side by side to see how small is it.

When I googled ASRock H110M-ITX, it gave me pictures of graphics cards.

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You included an SSD there too.

You can read minds wan ahh bero?

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Then the graphics card...need until GTX 1080 so hebat or not bero?

I will be using this for 2D and 3D modelling purposes only bero.

No gaming, no video editing, maybe some basic photo editing.

Then the Seagate HDD how many rpm bero?

And the PSU need until 550 W ahh bero???

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QUOTE(zellix @ Aug 30 2016, 03:29 PM)
how about i3 4170 with asus b85m-g ? still need bios update? if yes, just update it normally? turn on the pc > update bios > done?
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BIOS version of 2301 is required to run i3 4170, if it doesn't come with 2301 preloaded then you need to update it.

Please proceed to Asus support site to download the BIOS and follow the update instructions.
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QUOTE(entire @ Aug 30 2016, 03:07 PM)
if u want customize AIO u can try something like this
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/quitepc-mono-...-pc-25-09-2014/
https://asksender.com/ces-2016-maingear-alp...-gaming-system/
i saw one PC shop in jaya one PJ got carry something like this
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Wahhhh.

That's what I am referring to lehh!

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But all is only available in the US.

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 03:59 PM)
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How big is the casing bero?

Got a comparison picture or something?

Macam the casing and an orange side by side to see how small is it.

When I googled ASRock H110M-ITX, it gave me pictures of graphics cards.

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You included an SSD there too.

You can read minds wan ahh bero?

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Then the graphics card...need until GTX 1080 so hebat or not bero?

I will be using this for 2D and 3D modelling purposes only bero.

No gaming, no video editing, maybe some basic photo editing.

Then the Seagate HDD how many rpm bero?

And the PSU need until 550 W ahh bero???

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Search online for the image of CM Elite 110, I don't have orange to compare, it is one of the smallest mITX cases out there already, if you cannot accept it then I think you need to go for console like mITX casing like Silverstone Milo series.

As for the mobo, please search again, it is a mobo and Google returned the correct image result, or just go to Asrock website to check the specs of the mobo.

As for GPU, GTX1060 is listed in the build list, maybe you misread as GTX1080?

HDD, well it is 7200 RPM, I purposely choose this over WD Blue because WD Blue (> 2TB) is much slower (5400 RPM).

PSU 550W is standard, your system will not draw whole 550W from the wall socket all the time so don't worry on this, it only draws whatever it needs and the limit will be 550W (for true power PSU), why I choose this PSU? Fully modular & reliable PSU at cheap price tag for better cable management in SFF case.

P/S: Please refrain from writing/posting in such way (one sentence in a line), it reduces the readability drastically sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 04:11 PM)
Search online for the image of CM Elite 110, I don't have orange to compare, it is one of the smallest mITX cases out there already, if you cannot accept it then I think you need to go for console like mITX casing like Silverstone Milo series.

As for the mobo, please search again, it is a mobo and Google returned the correct image result, or just go to Asrock website to check the specs of the mobo.

As for GPU, GTX1060 is listed in the build list, maybe you misread as GTX1080?

HDD, well it is 7200 RPM, I purposely choose this over WD Blue because WD Blue (> 2TB) is much slower (5400 RPM).

PSU 550W is standard, your system will not draw whole 550W from the wall socket all the time so don't worry on this, it only draws whatever it needs and the limit will be 550W (for true power PSU), why I choose this PSU? Fully modular & reliable PSU at cheap price tag for better cable management in SFF case.

P/S: Please refrain from writing/posting in such way (one sentence in a line), it reduces the readability drastically  sweat.gif
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Sorry with the writing format bero as I was on my mobile and posting like that makes it easier for me to read. Now I change back to the more conventional way of writing.

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Yea haha I misread GTX 1060 as 1080. My bad bero. As for the casing, I thought it is the ASRock H110M-ITX haha. No wonder lahh semua macam graphics card punya images.

Is this the CM Elite video bero?



If it is, then the size is too big for me bero. Got anything smaller than that ahh? Silverstone Milo series how wan? Need to add how much if I wanna change to this Silverstone Milo casing?

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Silverstone Milo series is like the DVD player at your home.

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product_case.php?tno=4&area=en
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 04:24 PM)
Silverstone Milo series is like the DVD player at your home.

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product_case.php?tno=4&area=en
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I don't seem to be able to open the link bero. Can you give me the model number so that I can google some images to look at?

Besides that Acer monitor, do you have other 27-inch touchscreen options? Cuz I don't really trust Acer lehh, macam banyak problem je.
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 04:44 PM)
I don't seem to be able to open the link bero. Can you give me the model number so that I can google some images to look at?

Besides that Acer monitor, do you have other 27-inch touchscreen options? Cuz I don't really trust Acer lehh, macam banyak problem je.
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ML02, ML03, ML04, ML05, ML06, ML06-E, ML07, ML08, ML09

Acer monitor is fine, they improved their QC recently, I am using one of their high end Predator series monitors, everything works well till now.

And unfortunately we don't have too much choice to make in Malaysia, the Acer model I mentioned is the only mainstream 27" touchscreen monitor available locally, if you don't mind the size then you can look for Viewsonic TD2420/TD2220, Dell S2240T etc.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 04:54 PM)
ML02, ML03, ML04, ML05, ML06, ML06-E, ML07, ML08, ML09

Acer monitor is fine, they improved their QC recently, I am using one of their high end Predator series monitors, everything works well till now.

And unfortunately we don't have too much choice to make in Malaysia, the Acer model I mentioned is the only mainstream 27" touchscreen monitor available locally, if you don't mind the size then you can look for Viewsonic TD2420/TD2220, Dell S2240T etc.
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Wahhh the Silverstone one is really small! Can re-quote ahh bero using the same specs below? But this time with the Silverstone casing instead of the CM Elite 110.

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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
CM Elite 110 - RM 159

Total: RM 4206 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Acer T272HL - RM 1699

Total: RM 5905


Thank you bero!!!

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If it is, then the size is too big for me bero. Got anything smaller than that ahh? Silverstone Milo series how wan? Need to add how much if I wanna change to this Silverstone Milo casing?
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this case is super compact, i don't know whether it in malaysia or not
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 30 2016, 05:00 PM)
Wahhh the Silverstone one is really small! Can re-quote ahh bero using the same specs below? But this time with the Silverstone casing instead of the CM Elite 110.
Thank you bero!!!
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And yea I forgot to include Raven series brows.gif

Google for RVZ01, RVZ02 and report back to me which one you prefer.
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this case is super compact, i don't know whether it in malaysia or not
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This one also kinda big. I am looking for those macam DVD player, like the Silverstone Milo series posted by terence_nwb above.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 05:18 PM)
And yea I forgot to include Raven series  brows.gif

Google for RVZ01, RVZ02 and report back to me which one you prefer.
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Which series is smaller? I don't know why the Silverstone website cannot load here.
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Which series is smaller? I don't know why the Silverstone website cannot load here.
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Depends on the hardware that you are going to put inside the case, if you choose the smallest one, you might have to drop some components, these cases require SFX PSU (more expensive) and with limited amount of clearance, especially HDD/SSD slot.

Milo series cannot fit normal GPU which takes up 2 slots so I have to go with Raven series.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1249
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Silverstone SX500 500W - RM 412
Silverstone RVZ02 - RM 349

Total: RM 4499 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

It is a bit tricky to fit the 3.5" HDD in this case, there are 2 ways:
1. Get a shorter card (like Zotac Mini) and put the HDD alongside with the GPU
2. Remove the slim optical drive slot and put the HDD there
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It is a bit tricky to fit the 3.5" HDD in this case, there are 2 ways:
1. Get a shorter card (like Zotac Mini) and put the HDD alongside with the GPU
2. Remove the slim optical drive slot and put the HDD there
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I need an optical drive bero. You can't go any smaller than this ahh? I can sacrifice on the GPU. Slightly less powerful also can cuz I won't do any graphics intensive stuffs.
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I need an optical drive bero. You can't go any smaller than this ahh? I can sacrifice on the GPU. Slightly less powerful also can cuz I won't do any graphics intensive stuffs.
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Already reached the limit, just get a laptop if you really need super duper small PC.

I am not exactly understand why you need super small PC but square size case like Elite 110 and console alike case like RVZ02 are the borderline that you can get when you need to fit in so many desktop grade hardware in a SFF case.

Remember that everything comes with a price, if you want a more powerful yet cost efficient specs, then you have to choose this path, if you still insist to get super duper small PC, you have to pay more for a branded AIO (still quite big TBH) or laptop (with much lower specs).


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 10:06 PM)
Already reached the limit, just get a laptop if you really need super duper small PC.

I am not exactly understand why you need super small PC but square size case like Elite 110 and console alike case like RVZ02 are the borderline that you can get when you need to fit in so many desktop grade hardware in a SFF case.

Remember that everything comes with a price, if you want a more powerful yet cost efficient specs, then you have to choose this path, if you still insist to get super duper small PC, you have to pay more for a branded AIO (still quite big TBH) or laptop (with much lower specs).
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Cuz I wanna keep the CPU in a backpack to bring it along with me when I travel. Not convenient to carry a bulky CPU around.

Ok so this build is the best in terms of size liao is it? If I go with a Zotac Mini and an optical drive lehh? How much do I need to top up?
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Cuz I wanna keep the CPU in a backpack to bring it along with me when I travel. Not convenient to carry a bulky CPU around.

Ok so this build is the best in terms of size liao is it? If I go with a Zotac Mini and an optical drive lehh? How much do I need to top up?
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RVZ02 can be put in a bag (school bag/laptop bag etc) easily and carry around, monitor might be an issue though if you really go for 27", 24" is already quite hard to carry around with both hands (too heavy).

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Silverstone SX500 500W - RM 412
Silverstone RVZ02 - RM 349

Total: RM 4469 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Slim Optical Drive - around RM 70+/-

Please make sure the slim optical drive is really a "slim" one, not the usual desktop size optical drive (5.25").
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From the photo the casing looks macam quite big mahh. That's why need comparison with an orange haha. The price is it best price liao bero? Still can become more best or not??

Any idea how heavy is this build ahh?
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From the photo the casing looks macam quite big mahh. That's why need comparison with an orange haha. The price is it best price liao bero? Still can become more best or not??

Any idea how heavy is this build ahh?
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For best price, please PM and ask the seller yourself, either via FB/lelong/LYN. You can also look for other sellers like Techview/DotaTech/Idealtech etc and decide which one to choose based on the quoted price and after sales services.

No idea on the actual weight, estimated to be around 15kg.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 11:11 PM)
For best price, please PM and ask the seller yourself, either via FB/lelong/LYN. You can also look for other sellers like Techview/DotaTech/Idealtech etc and decide which one to choose based on the quoted price and after sales services.

No idea on the actual weight, estimated to be around 15kg.
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Sorry ahh I am new to this so don't really know the proper procedures to nego price.

OK I will PM those guys and make comparisons.

Really thanks a lot for your time man! I know you are frustrated talking with a noob like me but hey, I got to start somewhere right? Haha. Learnt a lot of stuffs from you bero so thanks again!

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[Budget]: RM1500 - RM2000 (Try to stay within RM1500)

[Purpose]: Upgrade CPU

[Hardwares that will be re-use]: Monitor U2312HM Dell, CPU Casing

[Monitor resolution]: Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently]: Dota2, Overwatch(Having problems with this, currently using GTX650), Hearthstone

[Personal preferences]: Currently using i3 (1st gen if I not mistaken), looking to upgrade Mobo, Proc, RAM, GC and PSU only.

[Location]: Subang/Puchong
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need a quick advice, my zotac gtx 1060 mini temperature can go beyond 70 degree Celsius when I play far cry 4. Temporarily I downloaded Zotac firestorm to increase the fan speed abit proportional to the temperature. Eg. 40-50 degree fan speed at 60%.

Should I get a liquid cooler or this way(increase fan speed) actually works?




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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Aug 31 2016, 10:12 AM)
[Budget]: RM1500 - RM2000 (Try to stay within RM1500)

[Purpose]: Upgrade CPU

[Hardwares that will be re-use]: Monitor U2312HM Dell, CPU Casing

[Monitor resolution]: Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently]: Dota2, Overwatch(Having problems with this, currently using GTX650), Hearthstone

[Personal preferences]: Currently using i3 (1st gen if I not mistaken), looking to upgrade Mobo, Proc, RAM, GC and PSU only.

[Location]: Subang/Puchong
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Your current casing form factor is?

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need a quick advice, my zotac gtx 1060 mini temperature can go beyond 70 degree Celsius when I play far cry 4. Temporarily I downloaded Zotac firestorm to increase the fan speed abit proportional to the temperature. Eg. 40-50 degree fan speed at 60%.

Should I get a liquid cooler or this way(increase fan speed) actually works?
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70°C is fine, you only need to start worrying when the temperature hits 80+.

Just increase the fan curve, it will help to reduce the temperature by few °C.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 02:09 PM)
Your current casing form factor is?

 
How many form factors are there? Definitely not the mini sized one..
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How many form factors are there? Definitely not the mini sized one..
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3 mainstream - ATX, mATX, mITX
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3 mainstream - ATX, mATX, mITX
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wow.. not familiar with that.. can u determine based on the current MOBO? the model is asus p7p55 lx.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Silverstone SX500 500W - RM 412
Silverstone RVZ02 - RM 349

Total: RM 4469 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Hi there again.

For the GPU, is it possible to go one step lower? Cuz those I think those specs are a bit overkill if I don't do gaming.
For the SSD, I only need the minimum storage capacity, cuz I will only use it to boot my PC.
The Silverstone SX500 has to pair with the RVZ02 casing is it? If not, then got other cheaper PSUs you can recommend?

The rest is fine. Thank you!
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wow.. not familiar with that.. can u determine based on the current MOBO? the model is asus p7p55 lx.
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Alright that's ATX.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 635
Corsair VS450 - RM 162

Total: RM 1688 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I've used a mATX mobo in the build list since your ATX case can fit all 3 form factors, it is more cost efficient since you mentioned prefer to stick with 1.5k biggrin.gif
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Hi there again.

For the GPU, is it possible to go one step lower? Cuz those I think those specs are a bit overkill if I don't do gaming.
For the SSD, I only need the minimum storage capacity, cuz I will only use it to boot my PC.
The Silverstone SX500 has to pair with the RVZ02 casing is it? If not, then got other cheaper PSUs you can recommend?

The rest is fine. Thank you!
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GPU: Yes of course you can, AutoCAD and SolidWorks do use GPU power as hardware accelerator so I was trying to max out your budget and see how far can it go. You can downgrade to the 3GB version (GTX1060, around RM 949) or swap to AMD RX470 4GB (around RM 949 too), or RX460 4GB (around RM 699). More VRAM = more modelling memory storage, thus fasten up the operation.

SSD: Yes you can change to 120GB, but the price between 120GB and 240GB is just RM 100 difference (might be lesser), 240GB is more worth and can store more stuffs (especially those huge assets/files which are known to be slower to load on HDD so SSD is the way to go).

PSU: RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, SFX is more preferred because it is smaller and you can have more space for better cable management. SFX and SFX-L PSU is more expensive than the standard ATX PSU.
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GPU: Yes of course you can, AutoCAD and SolidWorks do use GPU power as hardware accelerator so I was trying to max out your budget and see how far can it go. You can downgrade to the 3GB version (GTX1060, around RM 949) or swap to AMD RX470 4GB (around RM 949 too), or RX460 4GB (around RM 699). More VRAM = more modelling memory storage, thus fasten up the operation.

SSD: Yes you can change to 120GB, but the price between 120GB and 240GB is just RM 100 difference (might be lesser), 240GB is more worth and can store more stuffs (especially those huge assets/files which are known to be slower to load on HDD so SSD is the way to go).

PSU: RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, SFX is more preferred because it is smaller and you can have more space for better cable management. SFX and SFX-L PSU is more expensive than the standard ATX PSU.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 07:36 PM)
Alright that's ATX.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 635
Corsair VS450 - RM 162

Total: RM 1688 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I've used a mATX mobo in the build list since your ATX case can fit all 3 form factors, it is more cost efficient since you mentioned prefer to stick with 1.5k  biggrin.gif
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hmm.. i m actually asking this on behalf of my friend, so his actual rig info i gotta dig more.. all i know is, he is currently on i3 and gtx650, so with your recommendation, isn't it roughly the same with just slight improvement?
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Thanks for the recommendations! I will review those few GPUs listed. By the way, that CUDA thingy is only available for GeForce GPUs right bero?
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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Aug 31 2016, 09:44 PM)
hmm.. i m actually asking this on behalf of my friend, so his actual rig info i gotta dig more.. all i know is, he is currently on i3 and gtx650, so with your recommendation, isn't it roughly the same with just slight improvement?
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That's 2nd gen i3 vs 6th gen i3, improvement is estimated to be around 30%.

And for GPU, GTX950 is around 50% faster than GTX650(Ti).

Your budget is limiting you (or your friend, whatever) from getting a better specs.

QUOTE(LiarLiar @ Aug 31 2016, 09:56 PM)
budget: RM 1399(PS4 price)
usage: gaming ( current-gen quality)
need: mini mobo(mATX or mITX)
note: excluding HDD & casing.
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Current gen quality? What settings you are aiming to play?

Don't expect 1.4k can build any decent PC gaming rig, mostly can fit a duo core G4400 and GTX750/750Ti only with this budget.
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current gen quality = ps4 default settings.
so, 'm better off buying a ps4 for gaming?
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If you plan or have the budget to upgrade the PC then I suggest you to get PC instead.

I don't own any console, so I am not sure about the exact price tag of current gen console, but I heard that you need to buy a pass to enable multiplayer content, I am not entirely sure on this though, please check it our yourself smile.gif
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current gen quality = ps4 default settings.
so, 'm better off buying a ps4 for gaming?
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It cost much but only gpu upgrade are needed for the long run
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now only i know such thread exists biggrin.gif , Sentinel92 it's been a while man how've you been?

thinking of upgrading to skylake, i think my setup is due for an upgrade.

planning on getting a 6600k, but not sure what mobo to get, any recommendations?

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Yup
That's 2nd gen i3 vs 6th gen i3, improvement is estimated to be around 30%.

And for GPU, GTX950 is around 50% faster than GTX650(Ti).
i see.. if budget can be stretched to rm2k for a more "future proof" rig what is your recommendation? smile.gif
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i see.. if budget can be stretched to rm2k for a more "future proof" rig what is your recommendation?  smile.gif
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If bump to 2k, you can either upgrade the i3 to i5 or GTX950 to something more decent only, if you can add in 200 more then you can upgrade both.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188

Total: RM 2215 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(najmul @ Sep 1 2016, 02:41 AM)
now only i know such thread exists  biggrin.gif , Sentinel92 it's been a while man how've you been?

thinking of upgrading to skylake, i think my setup is due for an upgrade.

planning on getting a 6600k, but not sure what mobo to get, any recommendations?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 08:51 AM)
If bump to 2k, you can either upgrade the i3 to i5 or GTX950 to something more decent only, if you can add in 200 more then you can upgrade both.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188

Total: RM 2215 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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alright will propose this to my friend. Thanks alot terence! had a lil of read up, the gtx950 seems to be on par or slightly inferior compared to my 3 years ago 7870XT , might ask him to opt for RX460-470 if budget permits as Nvidia's seems to be slightly pricier spec vs spec.

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alright will propose this to my friend. Thanks alot terence! had a lil of read up, the gtx950 seems to be on par or slightly inferior compared to my 3 years ago 7870XT , might ask him to opt for RX460-470 if budget permits as Nvidia's seems to be slightly pricier spec vs spec.
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7870XT is on par/slightly faster than GTX950.

The cheapest or lowest end Nvidia Pascal lineup is GTX1060 3GB currently, packing the performance of GTX970 at price tag of RM 9xx.


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Hi, can someone recommend a decent monitor for a budget 500-800 ?

-1080p
-IPS maybe ?
-I'm not completely sure about which type of panel should I suggest to my friend

TQVM
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Hi, can someone recommend a decent monitor for a budget 500-800 ?

-1080p
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-I'm not completely sure about which type of panel should I suggest to my friend

TQVM
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Acer R241Y biggrin.gif
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Acer R241Y  biggrin.gif
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in case, Acer brand is not sale at the store my friend will be going, any other brand to recommend ? hmm.gif


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My budget is Rm6500, no need monitor. ( Need extreme cooling for my pc because there's no aircobd in my room. Mostly for design and gaming. )

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in case, Acer brand is not sale at the store my friend will be going, any other brand to recommend ?  hmm.gif
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Which brand the store is selling then? Dell & BenQ got?

Dell S2316H - glossy IPS
Dell S2415H - glossy IPS

Glossy screen may create reflection when you are viewing under bright light source (i.e under light bulb).

BenQ EW2440ZH - semi-glossy VA
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My budget is Rm6500, no need monitor. ( Need extreme cooling for my pc because there's no aircobd in my room. Mostly for design and gaming. )
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haha, im using my rig in a non AC room too, no problem with the temp etc. Also using my rig for design and gaming biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 10:14 AM)
Which brand the store is selling then? Dell & BenQ got?

Dell S2316H - glossy IPS
Dell S2415H - glossy IPS

Glossy screen may create reflection when you are viewing under bright light source (i.e under light bulb).

BenQ EW2440ZH - semi-glossy VA
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TQVM bro, it just I rarely saw any Acer monitor being displayed at the store, ill ask the shop later biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(caprillachen @ Sep 1 2016, 10:10 AM)
My budget is Rm6500, no need monitor. ( Need extreme cooling for my pc because there's no aircobd in my room. Mostly for design and gaming. )
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2299
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
CM Hyper 212X - RM 152
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485

Total: RM 5894 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

To max out your budget, you can:
1. Go for OC build (might over budget a bit)
2. Go for GTX1080
3. Get water cooler AIO

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Upgrading from 3rd gen i5? It is not worth IMO, the performance is gain is too small  sweat.gif
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What if i upgrade to 6700k, or x99 platform, will it be worth it? My hands really itching right now, this is the longest i haven't upgraded my pc Haha
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 12:07 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2299
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
CM Hyper 212X - RM 152
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485

Total: RM 5894 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

To max out your budget, you can:
1. Go for OC build (might over budget a bit)
2. Go for GTX1080
3. Get water cooler AIO
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What if i upgrade to 6700k, or x99 platform, will it be worth it? My hands really itching right now, this is the longest i haven't upgraded my pc Haha
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i7 6700K - good choice but if your task isn't that CPU demanding, you won't feel any difference at all.

X99 - enthusiast level, expensive and not worth if you aren't going for 28/40 PCIe lanes environment (more than 2 way SLI/CF etc) or heavy workloads which require or benefit from multicore architecture.

But of course you can still do the upgrade if you have lots of money to spend, I am just speaking for money wise (price/performance ratio).
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Silverstone SX500 500W - RM 412
Silverstone RVZ02 - RM 349
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Hello.

Looking at this build you suggested, if I am getting the ASRock H110M-ITX D3 instead of the D4 version, my RAM has to be downgraded to DDR3/DDR3L right? Also, due to the space constrain, do the RAMs need to be low profile, or the normal ones also can?
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Hello.

Looking at this build you suggested, if I am getting the ASRock H110M-ITX D3 instead of the D4 version, my RAM has to be downgraded to DDR3/DDR3L right? Also, due to the space constrain, do the RAMs need to be low profile, or the normal ones also can?
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http://www.kitguru.net/components/motherbo...damage-skylake/

No reason to go or invest in DDR3 anymore when the price of DDR4 RAM is the same as DDR3 now, some of them are even cheaper than DDR3.

Value RAM = low profile RAM unless you are going to install special CPU cooler which may take up certain slot or space of RAM slot.
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http://www.kitguru.net/components/motherbo...damage-skylake/

No reason to go or invest in DDR3 anymore when the price of DDR4 RAM is the same as DDR3 now, some of them are even cheaper than DDR3.

Value RAM = low profile RAM unless you are going to install special CPU cooler which may take up certain slot or space of RAM slot.
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OMG! Didn't know that. I am currently comparing the ASRock H110M-ITX/D4 with the Asus H110I-PLUS DDR4.

Which one do you think is better?
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OMG! Didn't know that. I am currently comparing the ASRock H110M-ITX/D4 with the Asus H110I-PLUS DDR4.

Which one do you think is better?
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Both having similar features, but Asus one comes with a better board design (at least 2 SATA ports at side vs all 4 at center) and color scheme in my opinion.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 04:45 PM)
Both having similar features, but Asus one comes with a better board design (at least 2 SATA ports at side vs all 4 at center) and color scheme in my opinion.
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Cool cool. Besides Kingston, any other (cheaper) DDR4 RAMs you recommend? I am not a brand-conscious fella, as long as the items are reliable, then I am fine.

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DDR4 low-profile RAMs.

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Cool cool. Besides Kingston, any other (cheaper) DDR4 RAMs you recommend? I am not a brand-conscious fella, as long as the items are reliable, then I am fine.

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DDR4 low-profile RAMs.
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Corsair, Adata, Apacer etc.

Value RAM will do (the one with green PCB exposed).
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since you said only gpu upgrade needed.
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Corsair, Adata, Apacer etc.

Value RAM will do (the one with green PCB exposed).
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There is a problem with the Asus motherboard. It does not have a slot for wifi module. Aiyohh come on lahh Asus. It's the 21st century now! A slot for wifi module also cannot give mehh???

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 1 2016, 06:36 PM)
There is a problem with the Asus motherboard. It does not have a slot for wifi module. Aiyohh come on lahh Asus. It's the 21st century now! A slot for wifi module also cannot give mehh???

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ASRock one (H110M-ITX) also doesn't have, unless you get the AC model but it is not available in Malaysia.

You can always use USB WiFi dongle to connect to WiFi.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 07:15 PM)
ASRock one (H110M-ITX) also doesn't have, unless you get the AC model but it is not available in Malaysia.

You can always use USB WiFi dongle to connect to WiFi.
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Ehh ya wohh. I was looking at the D3 model. Sorry, my bad! Is there a reason they did away with the wifi module?
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 1 2016, 07:32 PM)
Ehh ya wohh. I was looking at the D3 model. Sorry, my bad! Is there a reason they did away with the wifi module?
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just a very quick question. R480 8GB and GTX1060 which is better? or someone can brief a little whats the difference?

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Guys wanna ask,

Is there any big different between 850 Evo and UV400/Sandisk SSD which is cost less than RM100++ other than reliability?

already did some googling but still cant decide either to fork up another rm100++ or just save it for another hardware upgrade.

Main use is gaming


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[Budget] 4k-5k (lower the better) (including monitor)

[Purpose] gaming, programming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] mouse only

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080 (prefer 144hz)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2, aaa games (programming softwares not known yet)

[Personal preferences] an ssd, corsair air 240/ fractal define nano s for casing

[Location] kl

Is it possible to have a Gtx 1070 for this budget including monitor? Thanks for the help

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QUOTE(Generalissimo @ Sep 1 2016, 10:48 PM)
just a very quick question. R480 8GB and GTX1060 which is better? or someone can brief a little whats the difference?
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GTX1060 - runs faster in DX11/OpenCL games (most of them now) and consumes less power

RX480 - runs faster in DX12/Vulkan games (only few of them but will become mainstream in next few years) but consumes more power

QUOTE(catalan90_V @ Sep 1 2016, 11:33 PM)
Guys wanna ask,

Is there any big different between 850 Evo and UV400/Sandisk SSD which is cost less than RM100++ other than reliability?

already did some googling but still cant decide either to fork up another rm100++ or just save it for another hardware upgrade.

Main use is gaming
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Hard to detect or feel any difference in real life usage unless you benchmark both of them.

If only use for gaming (storing games files) then any entry/cheap SSD is fast enough for you to feel the difference between SSD and HDD.
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QUOTE(Epix @ Sep 1 2016, 11:42 PM)
[Budget] 4k-5k (lower the better) (including monitor)

[Purpose] gaming, programming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] mouse only

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080 (prefer 144hz)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2, aaa games (programming softwares not known yet)

[Personal preferences] an ssd, corsair air 240/ fractal define nano s for casing

[Location] kl

Is it possible to have a Gtx 1070 for this budget including monitor? Thanks for the help
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Corsair Carbide Air 240 has GPU width limitation, please ensure the card can be fitted into this case if you are going to it.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Asus GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 2100
Kingston SSDNow UV400 140GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Fractal Design Define Nano S - RM 339
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 5016 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. Acer XB240H 144Hz - RM 952
2. Acer Predator XB241H 180Hz GSync - RM 1899
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 09:26 AM)
Corsair Carbide Air 240 has GPU width limitation, please ensure the card can be fitted into this case if you are going to it.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Asus GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 2100
Kingston SSDNow UV400 140GB SSD - RM 265
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Fractal Design Define Nano S - RM 339
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 5016 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. Acer XB240H 144Hz - RM 952
2. Acer Predator XB241H 180Hz GSync - RM 1899
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Thanks! Does the motherboard come with wifi?
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[Hardwares that will be re-use] Logitech keyboard, Logitech Z623 speakers and some RM50 gaming mouse. That would suffice for now.

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080 preferably

[Games & softwares that use frequently] only dota2 and many excels and words, movie and internet surfing

[Personal preferences] not really sure cause I'm noob (currently play dota on macbook. Anyway, not sure if wifi card would be included but definitely need that

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QUOTE(Epix @ Sep 2 2016, 10:10 AM)
Thanks! Does the motherboard come with wifi?
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Nope, but can be bought separately. USB WiFi dongle will do.

And there is a typo in the build list, the SSD size is 240GB not 140GB.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 10:47 AM)
Nope, but can be bought separately. USB WiFi dongle will do.

And there is a typo in the build list, the SSD size is 240GB not 140GB.
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Any wifi dongles you would recommend? I've had bad experience with USB wifi dongles. A Dlink on my htpc gives me 0.1mbps....
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QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 2 2016, 10:37 AM)
[Budget] 3.5k -4k (lower the better) (including monitor)

[Purpose] games and work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Logitech keyboard, Logitech Z623 speakers and some RM50 gaming mouse. That would suffice for now.

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080 preferably

[Games & softwares that use frequently] only dota2 and many excels and words, movie and internet surfing

[Personal preferences] not really sure cause I'm noob (currently play dota on macbook. Anyway, not sure if wifi card would be included but definitely need that

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 2747 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. 240GB SSD (or 120GB if only for OS)
2. 16GB RAM (if you deal with many large Excel files)
3. PCIe based WiFi adapter for better stability
4. IPS monitor
5. Other case (your own preferences)

QUOTE(Epix @ Sep 2 2016, 10:54 AM)
Any wifi dongles you would recommend? I've had bad experience with USB wifi dongles. A Dlink on my htpc gives me 0.1mbps....
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WiFi is prone to interference, obstacles and many external factors, for optimum connection experience, you are recommended to use ethernet cable.

You can swap to a mobo with onboard WiFi card like Gigabyte H170N-WiFi, but that would cost RM 200+ more.

As for USB dongle, any cheap TP-LINK will do if you are still using single band router (2.4GHz) only, it makes no difference to get dual band when you are being limited by the router itself sweat.gif
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QUOTE(catalan90_V @ Sep 1 2016, 11:33 PM)
Guys wanna ask,

Is there any big different between 850 Evo and UV400/Sandisk SSD which is cost less than RM100++ other than reliability?

already did some googling but still cant decide either to fork up another rm100++ or just save it for another hardware upgrade.

Main use is gaming
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Yaya. One of my friends also suggested me this 850 Evo SSD. He said the speed is notably faster than the UV400. Since both are SSDs, can the difference be THAT noticeable ahh for a layman like me? If it is not, then no point forking out the extra for something which I cannot feel haha.
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I am currently undecided between a modular PSU and a non-modular one:
Modular: Silverstone SX500-LG
Non-modular: Silverstone Strider Essential ST50F-ES500

Since I do not really care how the inside of the casing looks like (cable design, aesthetics and all), do you think going for a modular PSU is a waste of money?

The non-modular option is slightly larger in size (125 x 63.5 x 130 vs 150 x 86 x 140). Can the extra dimensions fit into the casing? Do you think such a small difference in clearance between the PSU and other parts in the casing will effect cooling much?

Below is the build recommended by terence_nwb, which was modified to suit my needs:
Intel Core i5 6600
ASUS H110I-PLUS
Kingston Value RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz
Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Kingston SSDnow UV400 120GB
Silverstone SFX 500W (or ST50F-ES500)
Silverstone RVZ02

Thanks a lot in advance.

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QUOTE(Ivan Sac @ Sep 2 2016, 01:19 PM)
[Budget] RM1k

[Purpose] Basic use

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Microsoft Office, Internet, AI & Photoshop

[Personal preferences] Currently using SFF Dell which has E8400 processor & 4GB RAM. This spec able to do multitasking and able to run AI & Photoshop CS6 too. Need 2 spec which is better than above spec.One is SFF and another one normal setup. G4400 able to perform better than the spec above right ?

[Location] KL
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SFF one is totally out of your budget reach because the casing & mobo price already take more than half of it.

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 230
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Standard ATX casing + PSU ~ RM 100

Total: RM 950 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Sep 2 2016, 01:49 PM)
Fractal Design Core 500
Asrock H110M-ITX

looking for computer shop in lowyat which carry both item above ?
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Topmaid might have both of them, saw them just restocked FD case few days/weeks ago.

QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 2 2016, 02:14 PM)
I am currently undecided between a modular PSU and a non-modular one:
Modular: Silverstone SX500-LG
Non-modular: Silverstone Strider Essential ST50F-ES500

Since I do not really care how the inside of the casing looks like (cable design, aesthetics and all), do you think going for a modular PSU is a waste of money?

The non-modular option is slightly larger in size (125 x 63.5 x 130 vs 150 x 86 x 140). Can the extra dimensions fit into the casing? Do you think such a small difference in clearance between the PSU and other parts in the casing will effect cooling much?

Below is the build recommended by terence_nwb, which was modified to suit my needs:
Intel Core i5 6600
ASUS H110I-PLUS
Kingston Value RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz
Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Kingston SSDnow UV400 120GB
Silverstone SFX 500W (or ST50F-ES500)
Silverstone RVZ02

Thanks a lot in advance.
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RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, that ATX PSU won't fit in the case, I explained before.

QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 07:44 PM)
PSU: RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, SFX is more preferred because it is smaller and you can have more space for better cable management. SFX and SFX-L PSU is more expensive than the standard ATX PSU.
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Going for fully modular PSU can help you eliminate those unused cables and save some space for better cooling, you don't want to have a cramped up space in your PC right, do you?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 11:40 AM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 2747 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. 240GB SSD (or 120GB if only for OS)
2. 16GB RAM (if you deal with many large Excel files)
3. PCIe based WiFi adapter for better stability
4. IPS monitor
5. Other case (your own preferences)
WiFi is prone to interference, obstacles and many external factors, for optimum connection experience, you are recommended to use ethernet cable.

You can swap to a mobo with onboard WiFi card like Gigabyte H170N-WiFi, but that would cost RM 200+ more.

As for USB dongle, any cheap TP-LINK will do if you are still using single band router (2.4GHz) only, it makes no difference to get dual band when you are being limited by the router itself  sweat.gif
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Is that like the kind of spec that "maxing out" on Dota2? i.e. should I upgrade the CPU or GPU for a better performance? And what do you mean 120GB for SSD if only for OS?

Sorry for being such a noob. I've only used laptops so far. First time building my own rig.

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QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 2 2016, 03:41 PM)
Is that like the kind of spec that "maxing out" on Dota2? i.e. should I upgrade the CPU or GPU for a better performance? And what do you mean 120GB for SSD if only for OS?

Sorry for being such a noob. I've only used laptops so far. First time building my own rig.
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For 1080p 60FPS yes.

If you play other games too then you can consider upgrading the GPU to a better one, if not it is enough.

Some people get a small size SSD (like 60/120GB) for OS installation only (to improve system boot time and responsiveness by a large margin over HDD), whereas all the other files will be stored in HDD instead to save cost.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 09:19 AM)
GTX1060 - runs faster in DX11/OpenCL games (most of them now) and consumes less power

RX480 - runs faster in DX12/Vulkan games (only few of them but will become mainstream in next few years) but consumes more power
Hard to detect or feel any difference in real life usage unless you benchmark both of them.

If only use for gaming (storing games files) then any entry/cheap SSD is fast enough for you to feel the difference between SSD and HDD.
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hello im an idiot here. can simplify what is DX11 and DX12? OpenCL and Vulkan?

for normal gaming like Dota 2 and CSGO which is better? i've searching in google but still dont get the meaning LOL

thank you so much first!
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QUOTE(Generalissimo @ Sep 2 2016, 04:10 PM)
hello im an idiot here. can simplify what is DX11 and DX12? OpenCL and Vulkan?

for normal gaming like Dota 2 and CSGO which is better? i've searching in google but still dont get the meaning LOL

thank you so much first!
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Those are multimedia API.

DX11 and DX12 are created and managed by Microsoft and is built into your Windows OS directly, DX12 is Windows 10 exclusive at the moment.

OpenCL/GL is another API that is being used widely to create video games on PC, it existed since a very long time ago.

While Vulkan is the one of the latest graphics API which aims to provide low overhead and cross platform support to the massive gamers out there, the ability of this API has gained significant attention from video game maker and gamers. Doom 2016 already had Vulkan support since last month and guess what, Titan Pascal is able to run this games at max settings 4K UHD 60 FPS without problem at all.

Dota 2 and CS:GO aren't GPU demanding games at all, either Nvidia or AMD will work just fine.

Dota 2 added Vulkan support few months ago and is still under beta tag, it doesn't benefit high end GPU though, mostly low end GPU and laptop for better performance (in terms of FPS).

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hi, just want to ask coz not found satisfied answer in google, is it worth it to build rig with i5 6600K or i7 6700 pair with GTX1070?
my concern is both proc investment is about a same amount ( i5 6600K + water cooler or i7 6700 + 3rd party air cooler).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 02:34 PM)
SFF one is totally out of your budget reach because the casing & mobo price already take more than half of it.

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 230
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Standard ATX casing + PSU ~ RM 100

Total: RM 950 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(zulfadliwahab @ Sep 2 2016, 05:17 PM)
hi, just want to ask coz not found satisfied answer in google, is it worth it to build rig with i5 6600K or i7 6700 pair with GTX1070?
my concern is both proc investment is about a same amount ( i5 6600K + water cooler or i7 6700 + 3rd party air cooler).
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If you go for i7 6700, you can actually stick with the provided stock cooler, temperature should be well within the safe range if the airflow is good.

And you need to spend more on the mobo if you go for i5 6600K.

i5 6600K + Z170 + decent CPU cooler - estimated to be around 2.2k+

i7 6700 + H110/B150/H170 + CPU cooler - estimated to be around 1.9k (if you pick H170 and sub-RM 150 CPU cooler, will be much lower if you get B150 and stick with stock cooler)

I will go for i7 > i5 anytime, core clock isn't the only important factors in gaming right now, we've started to see some newer games to utilize and benefit from multicore enabled CPU.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 02:42 PM)
RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, that ATX PSU won't fit in the case, I explained before.
Going for fully modular PSU can help you eliminate those unused cables and save some space for better cooling, you don't want to have a cramped up space in your PC right, do you?
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Noted. Thanks.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 05:32 PM)
If you go for i7 6700, you can actually stick with the provided stock cooler, temperature should be well within the safe range if the airflow is good.

And you need to spend more on the mobo if you go for i5 6600K.

i5 6600K + Z170 + decent CPU cooler - estimated to be around 2.2k+

i7 6700 + H110/B150/H170 + CPU cooler - estimated to be around 1.9k (if you pick H170 and sub-RM 150 CPU cooler, will be much lower if you get B150 and stick with stock cooler)

I will go for i7 > i5 anytime, core clock isn't the only important factors in gaming right now, we've started to see some newer games to utilize and benefit from multicore enabled CPU.
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If I don't play games, will it matter? Cuz I feel i7 for me will be seriously underutilised.

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 2 2016, 05:44 PM)
If I don't play games, will it matter? Cuz I feel i7 for me will be seriously underutilised.
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Depends on your usage, if only normal browsing, watching videos/movies and basic & light tasks then even i3 is enough.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 05:47 PM)
Depends on your usage, if only normal browsing, watching videos/movies and basic & light tasks then even i3 is enough.
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Yaya that's what I am thinking too. i5 6600 this processor ok?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 04:06 PM)
For 1080p 60FPS yes.

If you play other games too then you can consider upgrading the GPU to a better one, if not it is enough.

Some people get a small size SSD (like 60/120GB) for OS installation only (to improve system boot time and responsiveness by a large margin over HDD), whereas all the other files will be stored in HDD instead to save cost.
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What about extra cooling system or fan? Do I need that as well? (Dota2 and microsoft office mostly). Thank you for being very helpful! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 2 2016, 05:50 PM)
Yaya that's what I am thinking too. i5 6600 this processor ok?
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i5 6500 worth the most in Skylake Core i5 family due to best price/performance ratio.

But of course the 6600 is also fine, just not that worth if you compare the gain from 6400 to 6500 and 6500 to 6600, the 6600 will become more "premium" in this case.

QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 2 2016, 06:01 PM)
What about extra cooling system or fan? Do I need that as well? (Dota2 and microsoft office mostly). Thank you for being very helpful! thumbup.gif
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Swap to Tecware Alpha case (RM 200+/-) then, it comes with more casing fans which can save you the hassle of buying more casing fans separately to improve the airflow of the rig.

The processor does come with stock CPU cooler so you don't have to get any 3rd party CPU cooler for the time being unless the temperature is not within your comfortable range.
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Hello sifu sifu, would like to seek advise.
Which MB should I look into if I would take i5 6500 + gtx 1070 + 16gb RAM (8gb x2)
And which casing is in recommendation?
Is Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha recommended??
Thinking about NZXT S340 and Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 05:32 PM)
If you go for i7 6700, you can actually stick with the provided stock cooler, temperature should be well within the safe range if the airflow is good.

And you need to spend more on the mobo if you go for i5 6600K.

i5 6600K + Z170 + decent CPU cooler - estimated to be around 2.2k+

i7 6700 + H110/B150/H170 + CPU cooler - estimated to be around 1.9k (if you pick H170 and sub-RM 150 CPU cooler, will be much lower if you get B150 and stick with stock cooler)

I will go for i7 > i5 anytime, core clock isn't the only important factors in gaming right now, we've started to see some newer games to utilize and benefit from multicore enabled CPU.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 06:08 PM)
i5 6500 worth the most in Skylake Core i5 family due to best price/performance ratio.

But of course the 6600 is also fine, just not that worth if you compare the gain from 6400 to 6500 and 6500 to 6600, the 6600 will become more "premium" in this case.
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Ohh yes yes. The performance-to-price ratio is indicated in the CPUBenchmark.net comparison. I got to salute you for your attention to details.

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So I guess I am good to go with this build. Let me list down the price of the individual parts which I obtained in Singapore for comparison.

i5 6600 + ASUS H110I-PLUS - S$424
Kingston Value RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz - S$104
Zotac GTX 1060 Mini 3GB - S$280
Seagate Barracuda 2TB - S$98
Kingston SSDnow UV400 120GB - S$59
Silverstone SFX 500W - S$130
Silverstone RVZ02 - S$125

Total $1220 including 7% GST.
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QUOTE(munyen @ Sep 2 2016, 06:15 PM)
Hello sifu sifu, would like to seek advise.
Which MB should I look into if I would take i5 6500 + gtx 1070 + 16gb RAM (8gb x2)
And which casing is in recommendation?
Is Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha recommended??
Thinking about NZXT S340 and Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha.
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After surveying the prices for the past few days, I think the MSI H110I PRO AC is the best buy for a mini ITX form factor. Some more it comes with an in-built WiFi module.

The second should be the Asus H110I-PLUS, followed by the Asrock H110I-PLUS, both with no built-in WiFi module.
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QUOTE(munyen @ Sep 2 2016, 06:15 PM)
Hello sifu sifu, would like to seek advise.
Which MB should I look into if I would take i5 6500 + gtx 1070 + 16gb RAM (8gb x2)
And which casing is in recommendation?
Is Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha recommended??
Thinking about NZXT S340 and Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha.
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Depends on your budget and usage, if don't care about form factor, then cheap entry level of H110/B150 mATX mobo should be enough, if you want standard ATX then you can look for H170.

Some examples:

Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4)
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4)
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4)
ASRock H170 Pro4 (D4)

From the 2 casing models you've listed down, it seems like your budget for the casing is around RM 300 - RM 400.

There are other options available too within this budget such as Phanteks Eclipse P400/Enthoo Pro M, CM MasterBox 5, Fractal Design Define S.

If I were to choose one from this list, I will go for Phanteks Eclipse P400 tongue.gif

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[Budget] RM1.5-1.7k

[Purpose] Mid-High Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Games & softwares that use frequently] New AAA game

[Personal preferences] Can i get recommendation for both skylake and haswell build ,cause im still unsure which to go for

[Location] KL
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Haswell has been phased out since few months ago and Skylake is now 1 year old, while Kaby Lake is due next year (Jan 17) so there is no reason to go for Haswell anymore now, the price is almost the same too.

But your budget is way too low for "mid-high gaming", 1.5k can only fit a duo core G4400 + GTX750Ti, after adding a cheapest 1080p monitor, it will go over 1.8k which is already out of your budget reach sweat.gif

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Depends on your budget and usage, if don't care about form factor, then cheap entry level of H110/B150 mATX mobo should be enough, if you want standard ATX then you can look for H170.

Some examples:

Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4)
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4)
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4)
ASRock H170 Pro4 (D4)

From the 2 casing models you've listed down, it seems like your budget for the casing is around RM 300 - RM 400.

There are other options available too within this budget such as Phanteks Eclipse P400/Enthoo Pro M, CM MasterBox 5, Fractal Design Define S.

If I were to choose one from this list, I will go for Phanteks Eclipse P400  tongue.gif
Haswell has been phased out since few months ago and Skylake is now 1 year old, while Kaby Lake is due next year (Jan 17) so there is no reason to go for Haswell anymore now, the price is almost the same too.

But your budget is way too low for "mid-high gaming", 1.5k can only fit a duo core G4400 + GTX750Ti, after adding a cheapest 1080p monitor, it will go over 1.8k which is already out of your budget reach  sweat.gif
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Ahh i see ,what if pump it a bit to 2k and only tower as other peripherals already have

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terence_nwb Bro, the Silverstone RVZ02 does not have a slot for my 3.5-in HDD. So how ehh? Do I have to buy superglue and glue the HDD bracket to the side of the casing then slot the HDD there?

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QUOTE(padeipadei @ Sep 3 2016, 05:13 AM)
Ahh i see ,what if pump it a bit to 2k and only tower as other peripherals already have
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2000 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 3 2016, 03:07 PM)
terence_nwb Bro, the Silverstone RVZ02 does not have a slot for my 3.5-in HDD. So how ehh? Do I have to buy superglue and glue the HDD bracket to the side of the casing then slot the HDD there?

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Which GPU are you going to get? Zotac Mini card should be able to fit a 3.5" HDD alongside with it, there is a slot for you to slot in a 3.5" HDD if your GPU is not > 190mm.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 3 2016, 03:16 PM)
Which GPU are you going to get? Zotac Mini card should be able to fit a 3.5" HDD alongside with it, there is a slot for you to slot in a 3.5" HDD if your GPU is not > 190mm.
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The one you recommended bro. Zotac GTX 1060 Mini 3GB. That one is 6.85-in x 4.40-in only. Both the HDD slots in the casing are 2.5 in.

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 3 2016, 03:21 PM)
The one you recommended bro. Zotac GTX 1060 Mini 3GB. That one is 6.85-in x 4.40-in only. Both the HDD slots in the casing are 2.5 in.

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That one is back of the case, I am referring to the front side.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 3 2016, 03:28 PM)
That one is back of the case, I am referring to the front side.

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Yes, but this side does not have a HDD bracket to hold the HDD in place. Do I need to superglue the bracket there then slot in the HDD?

Sorry if I am asking a stupid question bro...I am slowly learning how to build my first PC so please bear with me.

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Yes, but this side does not have a HDD bracket to hold the HDD in place. Do I need to superglue the bracket there then slot in the HDD?

Sorry if I am asking a stupid question bro...I am slowly learning how to build my first PC so please bear with me.

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There are few screw mounting holes available for you to hold the HDD in place.
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There are few screw mounting holes available for you to hold the HDD in place.
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Guys, is it possible to build an i7-6700k rig (oc-able) within the price range of RM2500-RM2600?

Parts that i need:
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mobo, power supply, good casing and cooling stuffs(if needed, please advise)

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Guys, is it possible to build an i7-6700k rig (oc-able) within the price range of RM2500-RM2600?

Parts that i need:
i7-6700k
16gb ram
mobo, power supply, good casing and cooling stuffs(if needed, please advise)

re-use hardware: hard disk, gc (currently gtx950, but planning for gtx1080)

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Since I am currently building a PC, I wanna get a GPU for my friend along the way. He only plays Dota and watches movie via HDMI output connected to his LED TV. Which one is more suitable?

GTX 950 2GB
RX460 WINDFORCE OC 2GB

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please recommend processor, ram, mobo and SSD. Budget under Rm1k , 1.2k max.

Usage : no gaming , only multimedia (music and movie) and office document works.

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Since I am currently building a PC, I wanna get a GPU for my friend along the way. He only plays Dota and watches movie via HDMI output connected to his LED TV. Which one is more suitable?

GTX 950 2GB
RX460 WINDFORCE OC 2GB
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Either one will work fine in Dota 2.

Get whichever you find it is cheaper biggrin.gif

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please recommend processor, ram, mobo and SSD. Budget under Rm1k , 1.2k max.

Usage : no gaming , only multimedia (music and movie) and office document works.
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Intel Core i3 6100
Gigabyte H110M-DS2/Asus H110M-K
Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD

Total will be around 1k nod.gif
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Either one will work fine in Dota 2.

Get whichever you find it is cheaper  biggrin.gif
Intel Core i3 6100
Gigabyte H110M-DS2/Asus H110M-K
Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD

Total will be around 1k  nod.gif
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Thanks for the reply. Can this system last me for 5 6 years, in term of performance ? I forget to mention that I do some lightroom, photoshop and video editing occasionally(once a month), personal use only. Would this i3 be sufficient for my usage? What is the minimum budget i have to top up if I want a i5 system(the type of best for bang) ? I need to see if I can fork out extra $$ and doesnt overkill for my usage.

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Sep 4 2016, 12:30 AM)
Thanks for the reply. Can this system last me for 5 6 years, in term of performance ? I forget to mention that I do some lightroom, photoshop and video editing occasionally(once a month), personal use only. Would this i3 be sufficient for my usage? What is the minimum budget i have to top up if I want a i5 system(the type of best for bang)  ? I need to see if I can fork out extra $$ and doesnt overkill for my usage.

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Hard to say it can last for 5 to 6 years, if you are able to tolerate with old hardware now (those with Core 2 Duo) then you can mostly do the same in the next 5 to 6 years when Skylake i3 has started to slow down.

i3 will work for those tasks mentioned but at slower pace, same theory as above again, if you have enough tolerance then it shouldn't bother you too much. Get i5 if you want to have a smoother operation.

i5 6402P is the cheapest Skylake i5 in the market currently and requires top up of nearly RM 300 (more or less). If you can fork out even more, get the 6500 instead, small top up from 6402P/6400 but gain a significant base clock boost (from 2.7 to 3.2).
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Want to build using MSI Aegis.

I believe MSI Aegis comes with nothing? I cant find any reliable website with pricing, specs, etc.

I like the MSI Aegis because it is small and powerful.

[Budget] <RM10k

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[Monitor resolution] Probably ultra wide 27" curved 144Hz

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 4 2016, 12:42 AM)
Hard to say it can last for 5 to 6 years, if you are able to tolerate with old hardware now (those with Core 2 Duo) then you can mostly do the same in the next 5 to 6 years when Skylake i3 has started to slow down.

i3 will work for those tasks mentioned but at slower pace, same theory as above again, if you have enough tolerance then it shouldn't bother you too much. Get i5 if you want to have a smoother operation.

i5 6402P is the cheapest Skylake i5 in the market currently and requires top up of nearly RM 300 (more or less). If you can fork out even more, get the 6500 instead, small top up from 6402P/6400 but gain a significant base clock boost (from 2.7 to 3.2).
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Intel Core i3 6100 --> i5 6500
Gigabyte H110M-DS2/Asus H110M-K
Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD

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I decided to go with i5 6500. So the mobo no need to change right ? Since I only run one SSD , maybe a couple of HDD, without gaming , no need GPU also. For the mobo, Giga or Asus are the same ? Do they have pro and cons ?

btw, i3 6100 is the best i3 in term of price and performance ? asking on behalf of my friend

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Sep 4 2016, 01:01 AM)
Intel Core i3 6100 --> i5 6500
Gigabyte H110M-DS2/Asus H110M-K
Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD

Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif .
I decided to go with i5 6500. So the mobo no need to change right ? Since I only run one SSD , maybe a couple of HDD, without gaming , no need GPU also. For the mobo, Giga or Asus are the same ? Do they have pro and cons ?

btw, i3 6100 is the best i3 in term of price and performance ? asking on behalf of my friend
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i3 6098P is the holding the best price/performance ratio but with weaker iGPU compared to i3 6100 (HD 510 vs HD 530), if you aren't doing any GPU demanding stuff or going for dedicated GPU then this shouldn't be a problem.

Different mobo model is having different onboard features, the two I recommended are using Skylake lowest end chipset (H110), they are cheap but come with all the basic necessities that are required to run a PC.

More expensive = more onboard features but before going deeper into that, you may have to ask yourself (or your friend), do I need those "fancy" or extra features provided? If don't need then no need to spend the extra nod.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 3 2016, 09:16 PM)
Either one will work fine in Dota 2.

Get whichever you find it is cheaper  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 4 2016, 01:27 AM)
i3 6098P is the holding the best price/performance ratio but with weaker iGPU compared to i3 6100 (HD 510 vs HD 530), if you aren't doing any GPU demanding stuff or going for dedicated GPU then this shouldn't be a problem.

Different mobo model is having different onboard features, the two I recommended are using Skylake lowest end chipset (H110), they are cheap but come with all the basic necessities that are required to run a PC.

More expensive = more onboard features but before going deeper into that, you may have to ask yourself (or your friend), do I need those "fancy" or extra features provided? If don't need then no need to spend the extra  nod.gif
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Hi Sifu, I have some question.

1. Can GA-H110M-DS2 support Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM ? I notice supported memory speed, DDR3/DDR3L 1600/1333 MHz memory modules , just checked on GA-H110M-DS2


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user posted image , image taken from http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=5640#ov

from the picture above, GA-H110M-DS2 does not seem to have DVI port ? I need either dvi or hdmi . Any idea which mobo fit my requirement ?

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Sep 4 2016, 02:56 AM)
Hi Sifu, I have some question.

1. Can GA-H110M-DS2 support Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM ? I notice supported memory speed, DDR3/DDR3L 1600/1333 MHz memory modules , just checked on GA-H110M-DS2
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user posted image , image taken from http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=5640#ov

from the picture above, GA-H110M-DS2 does not seem to have DVI port ? I need either dvi or hdmi . Any idea which mobo fit my requirement ?
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You need to look for DDR4 version, there are two models in Skylake generation because it is the cross over point for last gen DDR3 and latest gen DDR4 so some models will have 2 version with each supporting different RAM module.

H110M-DS2 (D4)

As for the display output port, you can either use a adapter (VGA to DVI) or swap to Asus H110M-K that I have recommended earlier.
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You need to look for DDR4 version, there are two models in Skylake generation because it is the cross over point for last gen DDR3 and latest gen DDR4 so some models will have 2 version with each supporting different RAM module.

H110M-DS2 (D4)

As for the display output port, you can either use a adapter (VGA to DVI) or swap to Asus H110M-K that I have recommended earlier.
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Hi ,I can fork out a little more for mobo, is GA-B150M-D3H any good ? or you have a better idea in mind ?
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Hi ,I can fork out a little more for mobo,  is GA-B150M-D3H any good ? or you have a better idea in mind ?
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Yup it's one of the best mobo priced under RM 400.
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My friend needs a suggestion for rm2k rig. Will use for gaming and video editing including photoshop. Thanks!
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 09:14 AM)
7870XT is on par/slightly faster than GTX950.

The cheapest or lowest end Nvidia Pascal lineup is GTX1060 3GB currently, packing the performance of GTX970 at price tag of RM 9xx.
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did advice my friend about all these, he decided to go for a "bigger" upgrade to future proof abit and budget can go up till 2500.

Any recommendations for this budget? His power supply might be able to reuse if can support RX470/GTX1060, the model is CM RS460-PCAR-A3.

Proc: i5/Xeon
Mobo: u recommended a m-ATX mobo, is there any difference compared to other form factors?
Graphic: around 900-1k range

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Sep 4 2016, 01:01 AM)
Intel Core i3 6100 --> i5 6500
Gigabyte H110M-DS2/Asus H110M-K
Kingston/Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD

Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif .
I decided to go with i5 6500. So the mobo no need to change right ? Since I only run one SSD , maybe a couple of HDD, without gaming , no need GPU also. For the mobo, Giga or Asus are the same ? Do they have pro and cons ?

btw, i3 6100 is the best i3 in term of price and performance ? asking on behalf of my friend
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If I'm not mistaken, SanDisk SSD is more reliable (plus or ultra 2)
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 2 2016, 01:52 PM)
Yaya. One of my friends also suggested me this 850 Evo SSD. He said the speed is notably faster than the UV400. Since both are SSDs, can the difference be THAT noticeable ahh for a layman like me? If it is not, then no point forking out the extra for something which I cannot feel haha.
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Online sources show that it has a boot up speed diff about max 3 seconds only. If you're really on a budget, any SSD would show a notable difference. My MacBook pro late 2011 used to take 2 minutes to boot from a standard hard drive. 20-25 seconds now using Sandisk Ultra 2 ssd.
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 4 2016, 04:44 PM)
My friend needs a suggestion for rm2k rig. Will use for gaming and video editing including photoshop. Thanks!
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2000 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(- JaY - @ Sep 4 2016, 04:56 PM)
did advice my friend about all these, he decided to go for a "bigger" upgrade to future proof abit and budget can go up till 2500.

Any recommendations for this budget? His power supply might be able to reuse if can support RX470/GTX1060, the model is CM RS460-PCAR-A3.

Proc: i5/Xeon
Mobo: u recommended a m-ATX mobo, is there any difference compared to other form factors?
Graphic: around 900-1k range
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The 12V rails in the stated PSU is able draw a maximum of 312W from the wall, based on the power draw reported by online reviews, the PSU is able to handle the load of RX470/RX480/GTX1060, if you have other components (those power hungry one) to hook on this PSU then it is recommended to get a better one.

Skylake Xeon CPU requires C232 chipset mobo and it is not cheap to get so stick with Core i5 family is a wiser choice for now.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 152
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 999

Total: RM 2265 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional build/upgrade:
1. Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1169 (Merdeka promotion till end of this month by Zotac MY)
2. Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 949

QUOTE(caprillachen @ Sep 4 2016, 05:05 PM)
1 question to pc master race, in what situation do I need liquid colling instead of fan? My room has no aircond and normally use to render.
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When you overclock the CPU.

For locked (non-overclockable) CPU, you can just get a decent RM 150 3rd party CPU cooler to reduce the temperature if it gets too hot when you do the rendering, but of course you can spend more money to get a decent liquid cooler AIO if you want the temperature to be even lower.
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For locked (non-overclockable) CPU, you can just get a decent RM 150 3rd party CPU cooler to reduce the temperature if it gets too hot when you do the rendering, but of course you can spend more money to get a decent liquid cooler AIO if you want the temperature to be even lower.
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But is liquid cooling make less noise or more noise compare to fan? Sorry im very noob in this

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QUOTE(caprillachen @ Sep 4 2016, 05:36 PM)
But is liquid cooling make less noise or more noise compare to fan? Sorry im very noob in this
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Same theory as air cooler, you need to install casing fan on the radiator itself to dissipate the heat from it, some liquid cooler AIO allow user to control the speed of the fan via 3rd party software (like Corsair Link), so the audible level is solely based on your own settings.

Some are automated, meaning when the temperature rises, the fan will increase its speed and noise level will increase also.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 4 2016, 06:44 PM)
Same theory as air cooler, you need to install casing fan on the radiator itself to dissipate the heat from it, some liquid cooler AIO allow user to control the speed of the fan via 3rd party software (like Corsair Link), so the audible level is solely based on your own settings.

Some are automated, meaning when the temperature rises, the fan will increase its speed and noise level will increase also.
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Okay, thx alot yea, one last question, should I get i5 6600k or i7 6700?

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 4 2016, 06:44 PM)
Same theory as air cooler, you need to install casing fan on the radiator itself to dissipate the heat from it, some liquid cooler AIO allow user to control the speed of the fan via 3rd party software (like Corsair Link), so the audible level is solely based on your own settings.

Some are automated, meaning when the temperature rises, the fan will increase its speed and noise level will increase also.
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Okay, thx alot yea, one last question, should I get i5 6600k or i7 6700?

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QUOTE(caprillachen @ Sep 4 2016, 05:53 PM)
Okay, thx alot yea, one last question, should I get i5 6600k or i7 6700?
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If you do a lot of rendering work then it is better to go for multi core CPU.
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QUOTE(JolamIII @ Sep 4 2016, 05:11 PM)
Online sources show that it has a boot up speed diff about max 3 seconds only. If you're really on a budget, any SSD would show a notable difference. My MacBook pro late 2011 used to take 2 minutes to boot from a standard hard drive. 20-25 seconds now using Sandisk Ultra 2 ssd.
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QUOTE(caprillachen @ Sep 4 2016, 05:05 PM)
1 question to pc master race, in what situation do I need liquid colling instead of fan? My room has no aircond and normally use to render.
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1. Get it if your budget allowed.

2. Current cooling system not good enough for a long hours.


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Thanks for your explanation. Do you recommend SanDisk or Kingston SSD? In terms of reliability.
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1. Get it if your budget allowed.

2. Current cooling system not good enough for a long hours.
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what would happen for long hours?

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Among these 4 GPU, which one is the better choice providing they are come with 3 years local warranty and the price is different +- RM60 only?

1) Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming OC

2) Asus nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 ROG Strix OC

3) EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0

4) EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming ACX 3.0
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QUOTE(sleepy 1 @ Sep 5 2016, 01:56 PM)
Among these 4 GPU, which one is the better choice providing they are come with 3 years local warranty and the price is different +- RM60 only?

1) Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming OC

2) Asus nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 ROG Strix OC

3) EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0

4) EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming ACX 3.0
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If they really fall into those categories you mentioned, then I will pick whichever I prefer, in this case, EVGA card (the color and theme suit my rig design) laugh.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 5 2016, 02:08 PM)
If they really fall into those categories you mentioned, then I will pick whichever I prefer, in this case, EVGA card (the color and theme suit my rig design)  laugh.gif
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I am in the dilemma between Asus and EVGA, but I ended purchased Asus Rog Strix 1070 OC. And I accidentally purchase 2 same card!!! Try to return it via ebay but seem like I need to wait till i receive the card then only can return it. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif


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QUOTE(sleepy 1 @ Sep 5 2016, 02:33 PM)
I am in the dilemma between Asus and EVGA, but I ended purchased Asus Rog Strix 1070 OC. And I accidentally purchase 2 same card!!! Try to return it via ebay but seem like I need to wait till i receive the card then only can return it.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Asus Strix is also ok. So you mean initially you only want to buy 1 card but then accidentally bought 2? And they charged your credit card twice? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 5 2016, 02:47 PM)
Asus Strix is also ok. So you mean initially you only want to buy 1 card but then accidentally bought 2? And they charged your credit card twice?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 10:00 PM)
Depends on your budget and usage, if don't care about form factor, then cheap entry level of H110/B150 mATX mobo should be enough, if you want standard ATX then you can look for H170.

Some examples:

Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4)
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4)
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4)
ASRock H170 Pro4 (D4)

From the 2 casing models you've listed down, it seems like your budget for the casing is around RM 300 - RM 400.

There are other options available too within this budget such as Phanteks Eclipse P400/Enthoo Pro M, CM MasterBox 5, Fractal Design Define S.

If I were to choose one from this list, I will go for Phanteks Eclipse P400  tongue.gif
Thanks, would like to ask how much power is suitable for this kind of build:-

Intel Core i5 6500
H110M
Kingston 16GB DDR4 2133MHz (2x 8GB)
GTX 1070
WD 3.5” 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III
Kingston SSDNOW 240GB SSD

Is it suitable and compatible for the parts above??

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QUOTE(munyen @ Sep 5 2016, 04:49 PM)
Thanks, would like to ask how much power is suitable for this kind of build:-

Intel Core i5 6500
H110M
Kingston 16GB DDR4 2133MHz (2x 8GB)
GTX 1070
WD 3.5” 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III
Kingston SSDNOW 240GB SSD

Is it suitable and compatible for the parts above??
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You didn't specify the exact H110 model so please make sure it is using DDR4 RAM module instead of DDR3 then everything will be fine (if you pick from one of the boards listed by me then it is good to go).

If speaking of raw power draw during load, a decent true power 300W - 350W PSU is enough, but you need to prepare some extra headroom for future expansion and overhead, so a true power 450W - 500W rated PSU is more preferred in this way.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 5 2016, 05:27 PM)
You didn't specify the exact H110 model so please make sure it is using DDR4 RAM module instead of DDR3 then everything will be fine (if you pick from one of the boards listed by me then it is good to go).

If speaking of raw power draw during load, a decent true power 300W - 350W PSU is enough, but you need to prepare some extra headroom for future expansion and overhead, so a true power 450W - 500W rated PSU is more preferred in this way.
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Alright, so get a H110M model using DDR4 RAM module right?
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current build:
CPU
Intel Core i3 3220 @ 3.30GHz
Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8B75-M LX PLUS (LGA1155)
Graphics
LG TV (1360x768@60Hz)
767MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 (NVIDIA)
Storage
465GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKX-00KJ3A0 (SATA)

PSU
450W cap ayam

Display
LG tv 1366 x 768

can all sifus recommend any upgrade ? wish to play current games with low settings budget is below Rm 700 thanks
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QUOTE(caprillachen @ Sep 5 2016, 09:25 AM)
what would happen for long hours?
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QUOTE(munyen @ Sep 5 2016, 05:53 PM)
Alright, so get a H110M model using DDR4 RAM module right?
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QUOTE(fish133 @ Sep 5 2016, 08:31 PM)
current build:
CPU
Intel Core i3 3220 @ 3.30GHz
Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8B75-M LX PLUS (LGA1155)
Graphics
LG TV (1360x768@60Hz)
767MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 (NVIDIA)
Storage
465GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKX-00KJ3A0 (SATA)

PSU
        450W cap ayam

Display
        LG tv 1366 x 768

can all sifus recommend any upgrade ? wish to play current games with low settings budget is below Rm 700 thanks
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Get another 4GB (to make it 8GB in total) and GTX950/RX460.
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Hi guys, im changing from laptop to desktop. Need some help w my rig.

[Budget] 2.5k

[Purpose] light to medium gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2

[Personal preferences] none

[Location] KL

Reusing mouse and keyboard only. Thank you very much.

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QUOTE(sleepy 1 @ Sep 5 2016, 01:56 PM)
Among these 4 GPU, which one is the better choice providing they are come with 3 years local warranty and the price is different +- RM60 only?

1) Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming OC

2) Asus nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 ROG Strix OC

3) EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0

4) EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming ACX 3.0
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How about MSI?
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Hello, another friend of mine also wants to build a rig. His budget is around 2.7k. Just a rig without monitor, Thanks!
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 5 2016, 09:09 PM)
Ya.
Get another 4GB (to make it 8GB in total) and GTX950/RX460.
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HIS RX 460 4GB D5 , rm599 from viewnet . is this the best one i can get within the budget ? since i dint see anyone recommending this card

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Hi guys.
Planning on a upgrade in the near future and have some questions.

1. My priority right now is upgrading the psu. I've set my sights on seasonic for this.
a) For a single gpu, all air cooling setup, is there a recommended wattage? Since I am planning for the psu to last a few builds I wanted to future proof from the wattage side of things.

b) Got my eyes on the m12II and X series, does the 80 bronze and 80 gold give any difference in terms of overclocking? Or is it just purely power saving cost?

2) Second would be the gpu. Currently have a 7870. The issue is I am torn on whether to upgrade to a gpu that is capable of good 1080p gaming or should I aim to future proof it a bit by getting a 1440p gpu. Current monitor is 1080p 60hz, I'm planning on upgrading my monitor to a 1440p 144hz but not I'm not getting the monitor anytime soon.

Any thoughts?
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QUOTE(lzx1002 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:07 PM)
Hi guys, im changing from laptop to desktop. Need some help w my rig.

[Budget] 2.5k

[Purpose] light to medium gaming

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2

[Personal preferences] none

[Location] KL

Reusing mouse and keyboard only. Thank you very much.
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Intel Pentium i3 6100 - RM 479
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 299
Apacer 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 149
HIS RX460 4GB GDDR5 iCooler OC - RM 599
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
<Casing of your own choice> ~ RM 200
BenQ GW2270 - RM 399

Total: RM 2533 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

Viewnet price list doesn't state the pricing for the casing so I couldn't include it in the build list, please make sure the form factor is correct (at least mATX).
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 6 2016, 01:21 AM)
Hello, another friend of mine also wants to build a rig. His budget is around 2.7k. Just a rig without monitor, Thanks!
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For gaming?

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 999
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2729 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(fish133 @ Sep 6 2016, 01:44 AM)
thanks! thumbup.gif
HIS RX 460 4GB D5 , rm599  from viewnet . is this the best one i can get within  the budget ? since i dint see anyone recommending this card
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HIS is not widely available in Malaysia that's why it is a bit "underrated" here.

By judging at the price, it should be a good deal. Quality and performance *not included* (yet to check review but should be doing good for budget build) biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Ronin_Amin @ Sep 6 2016, 08:28 AM)
Hi guys.
Planning on a upgrade in the near future and have some questions.

1. My priority right now is upgrading the psu. I've set my sights on seasonic for this.
a) For a single gpu, all air cooling setup, is there a recommended wattage? Since I am planning for the psu to last a few builds I wanted to future proof from the wattage side of things.

b) Got my eyes on the m12II and X series, does the 80 bronze and 80 gold give any difference in terms of overclocking? Or is it just purely power saving cost?

2) Second would be the gpu. Currently have a 7870. The issue is I am torn on whether to upgrade to a gpu that is capable of good 1080p gaming or should I aim to future proof it a bit by getting a 1440p gpu. Current monitor is 1080p 60hz,  I'm planning on upgrading my monitor to a 1440p 144hz but not I'm not getting the monitor anytime soon.

Any thoughts?
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Depends on your setup, if you have a power hungry GPU then you need to prepare more headroom for it. For the current GTX1070/1080, a decent 400 - 450W is already enough, if you are planning to stick with AMD then get a 500/550W just to be safe, their power consumption never amuse me so extra headroom is always recommended.

Difference in terms of overclocking? Do you mean CPU overclocking? If you are using Intel CPU then overclocking doesn't take a lot of power from the wall, just a small increase. The 80+ rating is mainly for efficiency, it does save you some money in your electricity bill, but that will take quite a long time before you can benefit from it (as in the money paid for a 80+ Gold PSU vs the money saved from the bills).

GPU upgrade, well it depends on your budget TBH, even if you decide to stick with 1080p in the next couple of years, you still can invest in a "1440p" card, i.e GTX1070/1080, this gives you the opportunity to run all the games at ultra settings with decent frame rate without compromise. But don't forget you have to prepare at least 3k for the monitor too, 1440p 144Hz is pricey in Malaysia, so GPU and monitor upgrade would cost you nearly 5k+.
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Depends on your setup, if you have a power hungry GPU then you need to prepare more headroom for it. For the current GTX1070/1080, a decent 400 - 450W is already enough, if you are planning to stick with AMD then get a 500/550W just to be safe, their power consumption never amuse me so extra headroom is always recommended.

Difference in terms of overclocking? Do you mean CPU overclocking? If you are using Intel CPU then overclocking doesn't take a lot of power from the wall, just a small increase. The 80+ rating is mainly for efficiency, it does save you some money in your electricity bill, but that will take quite a long time before you can benefit from it (as in the money paid for a 80+ Gold PSU vs the money saved from the bills).

GPU upgrade, well it depends on your budget TBH, even if you decide to stick with 1080p in the next couple of years, you still can invest in a "1440p" card, i.e GTX1070/1080, this gives you the opportunity to run all the games at ultra settings with decent frame rate without compromise. But don't forget you have to prepare at least 3k for the monitor too, 1440p 144Hz is pricey in Malaysia, so GPU and monitor upgrade would cost you nearly 5k+.
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I was thinking of doing both cpu and gpu overclocking in the future, looks interesting.
Yeh, the monitor price is pretty crazy and I'm thinking that the whole industry hasn't "stabilised" yet. Thanks for your input. Now have to figure out if I am capable of waiting for vega or I should just go buy a 1070 tongue.gif
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Hi sifus, want to build my 1st rig. need recommendation.

[Budget] 3k to 3.4k( exclude monitor)

[Purpose] gaming- run AA titles at 30fps

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Personal preferences] gtx1060- mini version and normal dual fan version, alot difference?

[Location] KL

[Hardware already purchased ] benq gl24, mouse and keyboard.

Thank you very much boss

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Now need to get a good speaker. Any idea?
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QUOTE(buzz123 @ Sep 6 2016, 11:53 AM)
Hi sifus, want to build my 1st rig. need recommendation.

[Budget] 3k to 3.4k( exclude monitor)

[Purpose] gaming- run AA titles at 30fps

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Personal preferences] gtx1060- mini version and normal dual fan version, alot difference?

[Location] KL

[Hardware already purchased ] benq gl24, mouse and keyboard.

Thank you very much boss
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If you are referring to Zotac Mini and Palit Dual Fan version then the main difference between them is just the cooler itself, both come with similar base clock and base clock FYI.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1128
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2986 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade/build:
1. 240GB SSD (or 120GB if only use to store OS)
2. RX480
3. GTX1060 (other version with better cooler design and clock speed)
4. Fully modular PSU
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 6 2016, 02:26 PM)
If you are referring to Zotac Mini and Palit Dual Fan version then the main difference between them is just the cooler itself, both come with similar base clock and base clock FYI.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1128
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2986 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade/build:
1. 240GB SSD (or 120GB if only use to store OS)
2. RX480
3. GTX1060 (other version with better cooler design and clock speed)
4. Fully modular PSU
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Thanks alot. planning to add in ssd 120gb( you recommend samsung evo 750 or 850?) . and use palit gtx1060 jetstream 6gb( any significant improvement?)

psu part im noob, modular psu?
http://support.nzxt.com/hc/en-us/articles/...he-Differences-
is this it? for better airflow and cable managament?

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QUOTE(buzz123 @ Sep 6 2016, 03:02 PM)
Thanks alot. planning to add in ssd 120gb( you recommend samsung evo 750 or 850?) . and use palit gtx1060 jetstream 6gb( any significant improvement?)

psu part im noob, modular psu?
http://support.nzxt.com/hc/en-us/articles/...he-Differences- 
is this it? for better airflow and cable managament?
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If budget is tight, go for 750 EVO/UV400 and vice versa.

Jetstream comes with factory overclocked settings so you will gain slight performance improvements (probably around 5 FPS+/-) over the one which runs on stock speed (Mini & Dual etc).

Yes, better airflow and cable management. Non modular cables are messy and a dust collector but much cheaper than fully modular sweat.gif
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If budget is tight, go for 750 EVO/UV400 and vice versa.

Jetstream comes with factory overclocked settings so you will gain slight performance improvements (probably around 5 FPS+/-) over the one which runs on stock speed (Mini & Dual etc).

Yes, better airflow and cable management. Non modular cables are messy and a dust collector but much cheaper than fully modular  sweat.gif
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Try asking in Audiophiles section. https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles
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Sorry double posted due to internet so slow just now

This post has been edited by DesktopLimousine: Sep 6 2016, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 6 2016, 09:25 AM)
For gaming?

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 999
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2729 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
HIS is not widely available in Malaysia that's why it is a bit "underrated" here.

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Thanks master! Is it able to change to gtx1060 build? The mini one looks cheaper.
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 6 2016, 07:02 PM)
Thanks master! Is it able to change to gtx1060 build? The mini one looks cheaper.
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Yes but small amount of top up is needed.

Palit Dual Fan - RM 1128
Zotac Mini - RM 1169
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Hi guys,
long time reader, first time poster here.

I have a 3-years old semi decent Rig which can run current AAA titles at low-medium settings.

Currently im planning to upgrade part of it (mainly GPU and maybe add water cooling).
Can the otais help recommend me what to get? Thanks! (Budget around MYR 1,000~ish)

My Rig Spec.

MotherBoard: Asustek B75M-A
CPU : Intel i5 3330 @ 3.00GHz (Stock cooling fan)
GPU : AMD Radeon HD 7700
RAM : 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 800MHz
PSU : Templarius Imperator 750W (80 Plus Silver)
Case : CM 690 (Old case, Around 8 Y/O)


PS: My GPU might be dying soon, hence the reason for upgrade.
PSS: I have to ask here because im scared if i cincai pick newer parts it would be incompatible/bottle neck with my current rig.
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QUOTE(fhydd @ Sep 6 2016, 08:53 PM)
Hi guys,
long time reader, first time poster here.

I have a 3-years old semi decent Rig which can run current AAA titles at low-medium settings.

Currently im planning to upgrade part of it (mainly GPU and maybe add water cooling).
Can the otais help recommend me what to get? Thanks! (Budget around MYR 1,000~ish)

My Rig Spec.

MotherBoard: Asustek B75M-A
CPU            : Intel i5 3330 @ 3.00GHz (Stock cooling fan)
GPU            : AMD Radeon HD 7700
RAM            : 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 800MHz
PSU            : Templarius Imperator 750W (80 Plus Silver)
Case            : CM 690 (Old case, Around 8 Y/O)
PS: My GPU might be dying soon, hence the reason for upgrade.
PSS: I have to ask here because im scared if i cincai pick newer parts it would be incompatible/bottle neck with my current rig.
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It's either RX470 4GB or GTX1060 3GB with your budget unless you top up a bit for GTX1060 6GB (Palit Dual or Zotac Mini).

As for cooler, just reuse the stock cooler, primary your budget in GPU upgrade instead.
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Guys what's the cheapest speaker with an optical input? Sorry for asking here, it's the only place I come to if I have a hardware question.
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[Budget] Around 3k

[Purpose] For work, gaming and illustrator/photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU, monitor, casing, keyboard, mouse and speakers

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Frequently uses photoshop/illustrator, MS office programs and CS GO

[Personal preferences]
Intel Core i5 6500 / 6600
GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 (SOCKET 1151)
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
Seagate 2TB Barracuda / WD 2TB Caviar Blue (for data storages)
CM Hyper 212X
VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 2666 (8GB x 2)
GIGABYTE Radeon™ RX 470 G1 Gaming 4G


Not sure if this is ok to run the above mentioned. Hopefully it can last me for at least 7-8 years? like the one i am using now which is dying by parts LOL!
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 7 2016, 03:47 AM)
Guys what's the cheapest speaker with an optical input? Sorry for asking here, it's the only place I come to if I have a hardware question.
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Try to ask in Audiophiles.

https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles

QUOTE(Wonka @ Sep 7 2016, 09:44 AM)
[Budget] Around 3k

[Purpose] For work, gaming and illustrator/photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU, monitor, casing, keyboard, mouse and speakers

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Frequently uses photoshop/illustrator, MS office programs and CS GO

[Personal preferences]
Intel Core i5 6500 / 6600
GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 (SOCKET 1151)
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
Seagate 2TB Barracuda / WD 2TB Caviar Blue (for data storages)
CM Hyper 212X
VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 2666 (8GB x 2)
GIGABYTE Radeon™ RX 470 G1 Gaming 4G


Not sure if this is ok to run the above mentioned. Hopefully it can last me for at least 7-8 years? like the one i am using now which is dying by parts LOL!
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If you play CS:GO only then you can save more on the GPU, GTX950/RX460 is more than enough and focus more on the CPU part like getting an i7 instead of i5.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 10:30 AM)
Try to ask in Audiophiles.

https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles
If you play CS:GO only then you can save more on the GPU, GTX950/RX460 is more than enough and focus more on the CPU part like getting an i7 instead of i5.
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between GTX950 and RX460, which one is much cheaper ? or they are on the same price, and which one do you recommend ? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Sep 7 2016, 10:39 AM)
between GTX950 and RX460, which one is much cheaper ? or they are on the same price, and which one do you recommend ?  sweat.gif
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Depends on which brand you are getting.

HIS RX460 4GB is the cheapest RX460 now, RM 599 only, most of the shops in Lowyat Plaza are selling it now.

Otherwise Palit/Zotac GTX950 2GB is slightly cheaper than Sapphire/Gigabyte/XFX RX460 2GB/4GB.

If only for Dota 2/CS:GO, just get the cheapest one, they barely make a difference in games (in terms of frame rate in 1080p).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 10:30 AM)
Try to ask in Audiophiles.

https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles
If you play CS:GO only then you can save more on the GPU, GTX950/RX460 is more than enough and focus more on the CPU part like getting an i7 instead of i5.
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There's other games too but because my current setup can't play so I did not download other Steam games to try out lol.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 6 2016, 10:03 PM)
It's either RX470 4GB or GTX1060 3GB with your budget unless you top up a bit for GTX1060 6GB (Palit Dual or Zotac Mini).

As for cooler, just reuse the stock cooler, primary your budget in GPU upgrade instead.
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Hi thanks for the reply terence.
Mind asking whats the difference between Gigabyte RX 470 G1 4G and Sapphite Nitro+ RX470 4G?

The place im looking at offers both with price difference around 10-20 ringgit. And trusty google searches came back useless haha.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 11:40 AM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 2747 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. 240GB SSD (or 120GB if only for OS)
2. 16GB RAM (if you deal with many large Excel files)
3. PCIe based WiFi adapter for better stability
4. IPS monitor
5. Other case (your own preferences)
WiFi is prone to interference, obstacles and many external factors, for optimum connection experience, you are recommended to use ethernet cable.

You can swap to a mobo with onboard WiFi card like Gigabyte H170N-WiFi, but that would cost RM 200+ more.

As for USB dongle, any cheap TP-LINK will do if you are still using single band router (2.4GHz) only, it makes no difference to get dual band when you are being limited by the router itself  sweat.gif
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On the motherboard right, what is the best option if I wanna get the HDMI mobo?
And if I were to choose Phanteks Eclipse P400 instead of Tecware F3, would that add any advantage to the performance? Or should I spend the extra money elsewhere?
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QUOTE(Wonka @ Sep 7 2016, 10:54 AM)
There's other games too but because my current setup can't play so I did not download other Steam games to try out lol.
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If so then I suggest you to go for cheaper mobo like H170/B150, you don't need a Z170 when you aren't going to overclock the CPU.

Change to performance RAM to value RAM then dump all the remaining money in the GPU (GTX1060/RX480 at least) nod.gif

QUOTE(fhydd @ Sep 7 2016, 01:44 PM)
Hi thanks for the reply terence.
Mind asking whats the difference between Gigabyte RX 470 G1 4G and Sapphite Nitro+ RX470 4G?

The place im looking at offers both with price difference around 10-20 ringgit. And trusty google searches came back useless haha.
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Both come with similar chipset, so that's only cooler design and clock speed difference. Sapphire Nitro comes with slightly higher factory overclocked clock speed but G1 version is nicer in my opinion (just my preference tongue.gif ). Either one will work fine, just don't overspend on a 4GB RX470 because GTX1060 6GB can be bought as low as RM 1128 (Palit Dual Fan), if you use voucher code in Lazada/GemFive, it can be even lower (subject to stock availability).

QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 7 2016, 02:11 PM)
On the motherboard right, what is the best option if I wanna get the HDMI mobo?
And if I were to choose Phanteks Eclipse P400 instead of Tecware F3, would that add any advantage to the performance? Or should I spend the extra money elsewhere?
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Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4), remember to use the display output port of your GPU and not mobo itself, if not the dedicated GPU will be wasted because the graphics/display will be routed through the iGPU instead of dedicated GPU, if you don't know about this then most likely you aren't aware of the "useless" display output port(s) of the mobo for gamers yet, they are pointless for those who have dedicated GPU, only show their usefulness when dedicated GPU is dead or you want to do some troubleshooting jobs etc sweat.gif

Casing doesn't add performance, what you get is different design/look and airflow (which indirectly alters the temperature if airflow is not the same).

My suggestion is to spend the money in somewhere else first, Tecware Alpha is a decent high airflow casing, hardware > aesthetic for beginners.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 03:06 PM)
If so then I suggest you to go for cheaper mobo like H170/B150, you don't need a Z170 when you aren't going to overclock the CPU.

Change to performance RAM to value RAM then dump all the remaining money in the GPU (GTX1060/RX480 at least)  nod.gif
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I will look into it. No rush in getting them yet. Will slowly get item by item biggrin.gif no money
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 03:06 PM)
If so then I suggest you to go for cheaper mobo like H170/B150, you don't need a Z170 when you aren't going to overclock the CPU.

Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4), remember to use the display output port of your GPU and not mobo itself, if not the dedicated GPU will be wasted because the graphics/display will be routed through the iGPU instead of dedicated GPU, if you don't know about this then most likely you aren't aware of the "useless" display output port(s) of the mobo for gamers yet, they are pointless for those who have dedicated GPU, only show their usefulness when dedicated GPU is dead or you want to do some troubleshooting jobs etc  sweat.gif

My suggestion is to spend the money in somewhere else first, Tecware Alpha is a decent high airflow casing, hardware > aesthetic for beginners.
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Do you mean that I should use both internal and dedicated GPUs concurrently? (Would it increase the performance somehow?) Is it better for me to only run the dedicated GPU? And save the internal GPU for back up?
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QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 7 2016, 05:39 PM)
Do you mean that I should use both internal and dedicated GPUs concurrently? (Would it increase the performance somehow?) Is it better for me to only run the dedicated GPU? And save the internal GPU for back up?
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No, I meant if you have a dedicated GPU then just use the display output port from your dedicated GPU, modern mobo will switch off the iGPU since it serves no purpose on desktop PC with a dedicated GPU installed (we don't need battery saving feature like laptop).

So it doesn't matter whether your mobo comes with HDMI port or not since you gonna use the HDMI port of your dedicated GPU, no? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 05:48 PM)
No, I meant if you have a dedicated GPU then just use the display output port from your dedicated GPU, modern mobo will switch off the iGPU since it serves no purpose on desktop PC with a dedicated GPU installed (we don't need battery saving feature like laptop).

So it doesn't matter whether your mobo comes with HDMI port or not since you gonna use the HDMI port of your dedicated GPU, no?  hmm.gif
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Ohhh okay I have just realised that GPUs also have output display ports!! shocking.gif shocking.gif

That just proves how noob I am! blush.gif

Btw thanks for clearing that up! So in summary, if I ever need to use HDMI, just plug it into my GPU output. Thank you boss!! notworthy.gif
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[Monitor resolution] 1080p (will upgrade to 4k within 2 years)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe premiere pro, adobe illustrator/photoshop, triple A games.

[Preference] GTX1070 and Intel Corei7-6700k. I will also prefer a good casing that has good dust filtering/cleaning/customization/cooling.

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What do you guys think about these 2 cards? Im in dilemma of choosing these 2 cards. Please help me out hahaha

1. Asus gtx1070 Strix OC 8GB

2. EVGA gtx1070 FTW ACX 3.0
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