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terence_nwb
post Sep 7 2016, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 7 2016, 06:21 PM)
Ohhh okay I have just realised that GPUs also have output display ports!!  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

That just proves how noob I am!  blush.gif

Btw thanks for clearing that up! So in summary, if I ever need to use HDMI, just plug it into my GPU output. Thank you boss!!  notworthy.gif
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Yes, you can even use adapter/converter if the GPU doesn't have HDMI port, i.e. DVI to HDMI adapter.

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 7 2016, 09:19 PM)
What do you guys think about these 2 cards? Im in dilemma of choosing these 2 cards. Please help me out hahaha

1. Asus gtx1070 Strix OC 8GB

2. EVGA gtx1070 FTW ACX 3.0
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Asus Strix OC is more expensive than EVGA FTW, same goes to clock speed and memory speed, your call.

Since you put these 2 cards in your consideration list, then I don't think budget would be an issue anymore (few hundred more expensive than the other brands), so just pick the one you prefer (warranty, after sales services, design, aesthetic purpose like theme/color etc).

QUOTE(ipin.strike92 @ Sep 7 2016, 09:57 PM)
Guys, any recommendation for seller that provide maybank installment plan?
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AFAIK, Idealtech, DotaTech, ETech they all do have Maybank installment plan, interest rate might apply though.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Fabonacci @ Sep 7 2016, 06:49 PM)
[Budget] Around 7k

[Purpose] Mainly gaming and graphic + video rendering

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers

[Monitor resolution] 1080p (will upgrade to 4k within 2 years)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe premiere pro, adobe illustrator/photoshop, triple A games.

[Preference] GTX1070 and Intel Corei7-6700k. I will also prefer a good casing that has good dust filtering/cleaning/customization/cooling.
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Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1444
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura - RM 820
Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3200MHz RAM - RM 479
MSI GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Gaming X - RM 2105
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 650W - RM 449
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 502
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485

Total: RM 6808 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Sep 8 2016, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 11:18 PM)
AFAIK, Idealtech, DotaTech, ETech they all do have Maybank installment plan, interest rate might apply though.
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Thanks bro terence. Based on those seller, can you recommend:

[Budget] Around 4.5k (can stretch to 4.7k)

[Purpose] Heavy gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ROTR, Witcher, GTA V, Assassin's Creed

[Preference] I really like Phanteks Eclipse P400S. But i'm open to any suggestion
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post Sep 8 2016, 05:12 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 11:18 PM)
Yes, you can even use adapter/converter if the GPU doesn't have HDMI port, i.e. DVI to HDMI adapter.
Asus Strix OC is more expensive than EVGA FTW, same goes to clock speed and memory speed, your call.

Since you put these 2 cards in your consideration list, then I don't think budget would be an issue anymore (few hundred more expensive than the other brands), so just pick the one you prefer (warranty, after sales services, design, aesthetic purpose like theme/color etc).
AFAIK, Idealtech, DotaTech, ETech they all do have Maybank installment plan, interest rate might apply though.
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Thanks for the respond! For design, it doesnt really matter. Im enthusiast gamer and like to overclock to get higher fps, so I need a better cooling system and quieter. For warranty and after sale services, I heard that asus worst in it.
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post Sep 8 2016, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(ipin.strike92 @ Sep 8 2016, 12:26 AM)
Thanks bro terence. Based on those seller, can you recommend:

[Budget] Around 4.5k (can stretch to 4.7k)

[Purpose] Heavy gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ROTR, Witcher, GTA V, Assassin's Creed

[Preference] I really like Phanteks Eclipse P400S. But i'm open to any suggestion
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Super Jetstream - RM 1265
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Phanteks Eclipse P400S - RM 349
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 4448 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Different color is having different price for the casing, I am using the base price as reference.

Your budget can fit GTX1070 (Palit Dual Fan, RM 1899) actually but you need to drop the SSD to cover up the money for it.

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 8 2016, 05:12 AM)
Thanks for the respond! For design, it doesnt really matter. Im enthusiast gamer and like to overclock to get higher fps, so I need a better cooling system and quieter. For warranty and after sale services, I heard that asus worst in it.
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Better cooling + quieter, this is hard to please tongue.gif

The default fan curve is quiet (70% RPM at 70C only sweat.gif ) but cooling isn't that good compared to self-modified fan curve, but of course that's gonna create more audible sound, I am willing to exchange for more performance with the audible sound though since the music sound from my speaker will cover up the sound of the hardware eventually.
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post Sep 8 2016, 02:22 PM

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Intel Core i5 6500
Mobo?
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Zotac 1060 AMP
Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W
Case?

REUSE -
Monitor
Optical Drive
HDD

Hi, considering the specs above.

a) Please recommend me a mobo (best value)? MATX will do.
b) Considering either Tecware Alpha or Corsair Carbide Spec 01? Or have better suggestion?
c) Any changes required, to get the best price / ratio?

Thanks.
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post Sep 8 2016, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 8 2016, 09:13 AM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Super Jetstream - RM 1265
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Phanteks Eclipse P400S - RM 349
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 4448 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Different color is having different price for the casing, I am using the base price as reference.

Your budget can fit GTX1070 (Palit Dual Fan, RM 1899) actually but you need to drop the SSD to cover up the money for it.
Better cooling + quieter, this is hard to please  tongue.gif

The default fan curve is quiet (70% RPM at 70C only  sweat.gif ) but cooling isn't that good compared to self-modified fan curve, but of course that's gonna create more audible sound, I am willing to exchange for more performance with the audible sound though since the music sound from my speaker will cover up the sound of the hardware eventually.
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Well, I sleep with my computer on for the rest of the night downloading some stuff hahaha. I think im going to take EVGA FTW
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post Sep 8 2016, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(KayDash @ Sep 8 2016, 02:22 PM)
Intel Core i5 6500
Mobo?
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Zotac 1060 AMP
Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W
Case?

REUSE -
Monitor
Optical Drive
HDD

Hi, considering the specs above.

a) Please recommend me a mobo (best value)? MATX will do.
b) Considering either Tecware Alpha or Corsair Carbide Spec 01? Or have better suggestion?
c) Any changes required, to get the best price / ratio?

Thanks.
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2 RAM slots - Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4)/Asus H110M-K
4 RAM slots - Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4)

Tecware Alpha has better airflow.

If budget is tight, go for a cheaper SSD (Kingston UV400/Samsung 750 EVO etc.), it can save you RM 100+/- in just the SSD alone.

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 8 2016, 03:38 PM)
Well, I sleep with my computer on for the rest of the night downloading some stuff hahaha. I think im going to take EVGA FTW
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Most of the Pascal (I believe all) cards come with 0db feature, meaning the fan won't spin when the temperature of the card is below a limit (60 as standard), so leaving the PC on overnight won't generate anymore audible noise from the GPU cooler anymore biggrin.gif
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post Sep 8 2016, 10:36 PM

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need advice on monitors. I want a 1080p 60hz IPS monitor, good quality, no bigger than 24" and not too expensive. looking at acer r221q atm but would like to know other alternatives. thanks
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post Sep 8 2016, 10:41 PM

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Hi again.
Just wondering,
HDMI vs DVI vs VGA. which one is better? i read vga is not recommended at all, benq gw2470h have only vga and hdmi connection
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post Sep 8 2016, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(VanillaThunder18 @ Sep 8 2016, 10:36 PM)
need advice on monitors. I want a 1080p 60hz IPS monitor, good quality, no bigger than 24" and not too expensive. looking at acer r221q atm but would like to know other alternatives. thanks
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Acer R241Y/Dell S2316H/AOC I2281FWH/AOC I2481FXH

QUOTE(buzz123 @ Sep 8 2016, 10:41 PM)
Hi again.
Just wondering,
HDMI vs DVI vs VGA. which one is better? i read vga is not recommended at all, benq gw2470h have only vga and hdmi connection
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VGA is using old school analog signal and the signal can be affected by many external factors like cable quality.

DVI and HDMI (DP also) are using digital signal naturally.

HDMI is more preferred in TV industry because it supports HDCP feature. Another thing to be noted is the resolution and refresh rate support, dual link DVI supports 144Hz (1080p) while you need HDMI 1.4 for 144Hz (1080p) and so on, this isn't important for you because your monitor max refresh rate is 60Hz (but you overclock it to 7x-ish).

So in conclusion, use HDMI instead of VGA port of your monitor since it doesn't come with DVI port at all.




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post Sep 9 2016, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 10:52 AM)
Depends on which brand you are getting.

HIS RX460 4GB is the cheapest RX460 now, RM 599 only, most of the shops in Lowyat Plaza are selling it now.

Otherwise Palit/Zotac GTX950 2GB is slightly cheaper than Sapphire/Gigabyte/XFX RX460 2GB/4GB.

If only for Dota 2/CS:GO, just get the cheapest one, they barely make a difference in games (in terms of frame rate in 1080p).
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Hi, previously i saw you suggested someone with the below:-

"Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 2747 (ETech price inclusive of GST)"

In which his requirement was only Dota2. If I am only looking at minimal gaming (Dota2 - which only looking at the medium video setting instead of max setting).

Would it be fine to go without GPU (GTX950)? Just use Intel's HD 530. As I only using mostly on movies and surfing net. Minimal dota2 (medium setting will do *with decent FPS)
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Should I go with the samsung PRO 850 or just grt samsung EVO 850? Does the differences noticable?
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post Sep 9 2016, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Helic @ Sep 9 2016, 02:26 AM)
Hi, previously i saw you suggested someone with the below:-

"Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 2747 (ETech price inclusive of GST)"

In which his requirement was only Dota2. If I am only looking at minimal gaming (Dota2 - which only looking at the medium video setting instead of max setting).

Would it be fine to go without GPU (GTX950)? Just use Intel's HD 530. As I only using mostly on movies and surfing net. Minimal dota2 (medium setting will do *with decent FPS)
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Please upgrade the CPU to at least i5 6400 if you want to game on a stronger iGPU (HD 530), i5 6402P is using the weaker HD 510.

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 9 2016, 03:50 AM)
Should I go with the samsung PRO 850 or just grt samsung EVO 850? Does the differences noticable?
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Hard to notice the difference in real life usage and it is way overpriced for the PRO version, I would spend a little bit more on NVMe SSD if I were to get the PRO version laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2016, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 9 2016, 09:04 AM)
Please upgrade the CPU to at least i5 6400 if you want to game on a stronger iGPU (HD 530), i5 6402P is using the weaker HD 510.
Hard to notice the difference in real life usage and it is way overpriced for the PRO version, I would spend a little bit more on NVMe SSD if I were to get the PRO version  laugh.gif
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I think I googled as i5 6500's GPU lol. okay means :-

1. it is workable if only Intel's GPU.
2. HD 510, can assert my need (medium setting of D2 - since not very GPU demanding)?
3. HD 530, can assert my need (medium setting of D2 - since not very GPU demanding)?

Cause I was thinking since for now I not require any extensive GPU yet. Maybe keep a slot for future upgrade (if any).
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post Sep 9 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Helic @ Sep 9 2016, 10:20 AM)
I think I googled as i5 6500's GPU lol. okay means :-

1. it is workable if only Intel's GPU.
2. HD 510, can assert my need (medium setting of D2 - since not very GPU demanding)?
3. HD 530, can assert my need (medium setting of D2 - since not very GPU demanding)?

Cause I was thinking since for now I not require any extensive GPU yet. Maybe keep a slot for future upgrade (if any).
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If we use Nvidia GPU as reference,

HD 510 is between GT710 - GT720.

HD 530 is between GT730 - GT740.

Medium settings in Dota 2 should be able to yield 50+ FPS (1080p).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 8 2016, 11:26 PM)
Acer R241Y/Dell S2316H/AOC I2281FWH/AOC I2481FXH
VGA is using old school analog signal and the signal can be affected by many external factors like cable quality.

DVI and HDMI (DP also) are using digital signal naturally.

HDMI is more preferred in TV industry because it supports HDCP feature. Another thing to be noted is the resolution and refresh rate support, dual link DVI supports 144Hz (1080p) while you need HDMI 1.4 for 144Hz (1080p) and so on, this isn't important for you because your monitor max refresh rate is 60Hz (but you overclock it to 7x-ish).

So in conclusion, use HDMI instead of VGA port of your monitor since it doesn't come with DVI port at all.
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Hi, need some rig recomendation

Budget] 5.5K

[Purpose] Video editing and moderate gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] would like 4K

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Gopro studio

No need SSD & prefer core i7 & GTX 1070 (if can)

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post Sep 9 2016, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Triton @ Sep 9 2016, 11:32 AM)
Hi, need some rig recomendation

Budget] 5.5K

[Purpose] Video editing and moderate gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] would like 4K

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Gopro studio

No need SSD & prefer core i7 &  GTX 1070 (if can)
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So you need a new monitor and would like to board the 4K UHD train? Impossible to fulfill all requirements if this is true sweat.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1848
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
Dell P2415Q UHD - RM 1859

Total: RM 6019 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

The build list contains all the cheapest parts available in the market already but it is still over your budget sweat.gif , so you need to "downgrade" your requirements, I suggest you to go with normal 1080p monitor for now.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 9 2016, 10:33 AM)
If we use Nvidia GPU as reference,

HD 510 is between GT710 - GT720.

HD 530 is between GT730 - GT740.

Medium settings in Dota 2 should be able to yield 50+ FPS (1080p).
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You mean both also 50+ FPS (1080p)? I think good enough for me LOL.

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