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PsychoHDxMachine
post Aug 11 2016, 08:09 PM

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My current PC spec:

CPU: Core i5 4460
Motherboard: Asus H97 Pro Gamer
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master V6GT
RAM: HyperX Fury 8GB
GPU: Leadtek 980 Hurricance OC
PSU: Cooler Master 750 Watt
SSD: Kingston Hyper 3K 240GB
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 7200RPM
Monitor: Dell 2740L


Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my current spec.

1. Palit GameRock Palit GTX1080(SRP RM2999) (cheapest i can get on the market now)
2. Monitor that support up to 4K 60Hertz(Need some advice on which brand -24" or 27" will do)

Will it bottleneck if using same processor & mobo?

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PsychoHDxMachine
post Aug 11 2016, 10:01 PM

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Samsung U28E590DS 4K 60Hz TN FreeSync - RM 1899
Dell P2415Q 4K 60Hz IPS - RM 1899
Dell S2817Q 4K 60Hz TN - RM 1935
Acer Predator XB280HK 4K 60Hz TN GSync - RM 2499
Philips BDM4350UC 4K 60Hz IPS - RM 2599

I will go for Acer Predator GSync over all the other monitors anytime, 4K is an insane resolution to drive, even with GTX1080 and you won't have stable 60 FPS, GSync is here to help biggrin.gif
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If like this, which processor and mobo should i go?
Processor I5 should be more enough?
How about mobo? Cos I might go for SLI for GTX1080 next year when the price is going down.
But normally 1 card better than SLI? If not mistaken from "google search"
Acer Predator GSync already Rm3.2k alone.


Another question is 1440p/144hz and 4k/60hz. which one is preferable? because my town areas dont have 4k even 2k monitor to test for gaming. is this really big different? or should i stick with 1440p 144hz with gtx1080?

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PsychoHDxMachine
post Aug 11 2016, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 11 2016, 11:34 PM)
Just find an i7 4790 or Xeon E3 1231 V3, no need to get new mobo or upgrade to Skylake, it is not worth at all, the performance gain is too little.

Price for the current gen GPU won't go down so soon unless our beloved PM lower down the GST rate or our currency strengthen against USD magically in short period of time which is unlikely to happen.

Single card is always better than SLI, SLI requires SLI ready mobo, SLI ready PSU and you need to deal with lots of SLI profiles and bad scaling issues, wait for GTX1080Ti instead of you want to go for GTX1080 SLI, the raw performance of GTX1080Ti is unable to beat GTX1080 SLI for sure but at least you get better performance on single card when the games itself is having zero SLI support or bad scaling.

Acer Predator XB281HK is the 4K monitor you need to look for (I listed above, the RM 2499 one), the 3.2k one is XB271HU which is a 1440p 144Hz monitor.

Edit: I will go with 1440p 144Hz instead of 4K 60Hz now simply because the power of the current gen GPU is still unable to provide a solid 60 FPS in 4K resolution without any compromise. 27" for 1440p is perfect, 4K on a 28" isn't my cup of tea  sweat.gif
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I see, so conclusion go for palit 1080 and xb271hu will be enough? Is it compulsory to change to i7 4790 instead of i5 4460? Bottleneck? My mobo will be ok? Based on your current spec on gtx1070 with the monitor you using(acer) how's the performance?

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post Aug 12 2016, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 12 2016, 12:39 AM)
Up to you, you need to fork out extra RM 700+ for XB271HU though, if you are ok with this then I highly recommend you to go for this upgrade path.

It is not compulsory to change the i5 to i7, i5 can drive GTX1080 well too, bottleneck only occurs when the games you play is too CPU demanding which holds back the full potential of the GPU. Mobo is fine as long as you have a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot.

I switched from GTX980Ti to GTX1070 before the massive price drop on new GTX980Ti and GTX1070 is basically packing the performance of GTX980Ti so yeah, the performance in terms of FPS is roughly the same but at much lower power consumption.

The monitor itself is awesome, it is the cheapest 1440p IPS monitor with GSync feature in Malaysia and you can overclock it to 165Hz officially too (under warranty protection) but one thing you need to take note is the backlight bleeding issue, backlight bleeding is common on IPS monitor and very hard to get a perfect unit, my unit has slight bleeding on top left, it is not visible from normal use though, I can only notice it when I switch off all the lights and turn the screen to dark mode (or dark wallpaper), I believe the new revision has better QC now because two of my friends who bought it last month have no bleeding issue.

Good luck.
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OK, thanks for the advice. Will looking forward for these parts! smile.gif
PsychoHDxMachine
post Aug 25 2016, 12:15 AM

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[Budget] RM 10 000.00 (CPU WITH MONITOR)

[Purpose] Gaming and ENTERTAINMENT

[Hardwares that will be re-use] NONE

[Monitor resolution] 1440P 144HZ (PREDATOR XB271HU)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] GTA 5 AND UP COMING GAMES

[Personal preferences] PREFER WHITE THEMES(CASE-PHANTEKS LUXE WHITE,COOLING-Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler White)

NEED SOME ADVICE ON WHICH HARDWARE OR RBAND SHOULD I GO?
MOBO (PREFER WHITE COLOUR)
PROCESSOR (I5 6500/6600)
RAM
PSU
GPU (GTX1080, DILEMMA ON WHICH BRAND)
SSD AND HARD DRIVE

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post Aug 25 2016, 01:02 PM

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[quote=terence_nwb,Aug 25 2016, 10:26 AM]
New batch of Phanteks case is coming soon, pending ETA.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H170 Pro 4 - RM 514 -> Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949)
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290-> 16GB[2x8G] Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHz C16, Color: White
Gigabyte GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X G1 Gaming - RM 3120-> Dilemma between Palit or Zotac (some got premium or extreme)
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409-> any other brands? (corsair or CM?)
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255 -> Samsung Evo 850 250GB
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Phanteks Eclipse P400S White - RM 389 ->Phanteks Luxe White
Acer Predator XB271HU - RM 3299 (Free headset)

Total: RM 9774 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Not entirely sure if Phanteks Luxe White is coming in together with other models or not so I used the new Eclipse P400S in the list for the time being, you can try to ask the seller for stock availability.

Phanteks CPU cooler isn't available in Malaysia, another choice is Cryorig CPU cooler (look for Idealtech), it also comes with white color to suit your white theme.

The mobo picked isn't full white color, another option would be Asus Z170S Sabertooth (RM 949), a bit pricey for me just to get onboard with white theme sweat.gif

RAM can be changed to Corsair Vengeance LPX White at additional cost, please take note that only Z170 mobo can take advantage of RAM speed of > 2133MHz, H110/B150/H170 will downgrade the RAM speed to 2133MHz automatically.

Psu review for corsair rm750x
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Choice of capacitors in the secondary side
The fan engages rather late
Limited functionality of the Corsair Link software because the PSU isn't digitally controlled
3.3V performance in Advanced Transient Response tests
Corsair Digital Bridge not in the bundle, but including it would raise the price ..
Is it really matter? Kinda newbie on this.

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post Aug 25 2016, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 25 2016, 03:39 PM)
The price difference for Palit and Zotac GTX1080 is quite big, Palit one can be as low as RM 2960 for Jetstream version (runs on stock speed) while Zotac starts at RM 3219 for AMP version. Gigabyte G1 is in between both of them and comes with factory overclocked settings.

There is no PSU that can beat the Superflower Leadex Gold at RM 409 (or within the similar price range) at the moment, it is a tier 1 PSU. CM V series is also under tier 1 but it requires you to make some top up, V550S/VS650S is semi modular and V650 is fully modular, go for fully modular unit if you aim to change the PSU cables to white cable mod for your white color theme.
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If i chose Seasonic M12-II 750W PSU? Will it be sufficient? overall performance?
the price kinda attractive as well.
terence_nwb

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