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post Jul 5 2013, 10:33 PM, updated 11y ago

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Official SSD Discussion Thread

Introduction
A solid-state drive (SSD) (sometimes improperly referred to as a "solid-state disk" or "electronic disk") is a data storage device that uses integrated circuit assemblies as memory to store data persistently. SSD technology uses electronic interfaces compatible with traditional block input/output (I/O) hard disk drives. SSDs do not employ any moving mechanical components, which distinguishes them from traditional magnetic disks such as hard disk drives (HDDs) or floppy disks, which are electromechanical devices containing spinning disks and movable read/write heads. Compared with electromechanical disks, SSDs are typically less susceptible to physical shock, are silent, and have lower access time and latency, but are, at 2011 market prices, more expensive per unit of storage. The prices have continued to decline in 2012.

SSDs share the I/O interface technology developed for hard disk drives, thus permitting simple replacement for most applications.
As of 2010, most SSDs use NAND-based flash memory, which retains data without power. For applications requiring fast access, but not necessarily data persistence after power loss, SSDs may be constructed from random-access memory (RAM). Such devices may employ separate power sources, such as batteries, to maintain data after power loss.

Hybrid drives combine the features of SSDs and HDDs in the same unit, containing a large hard disk drive and an SSD cache to improve performance of frequently accessed data. These devices may offer near-SSD performance for many applications.

The SSD Optimization Guide
http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimiz...zation-guide-2/

SSD related Tools and Ultilities
HDDTune ~ http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
AS SSD Benchmark ~ http://alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/downloads.php...4&download_id=9
ATTO Disk Brench ~ http://www.attotech.com/products/product.p...=Disk_Benchmark
CrystalDiskMark ~ http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDi...rk/index-e.html
Intel SSD toolbox ~ http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...Y&DwnldID=18455
SSDlife ~ http://ssd-life.com/eng/download-ssdlife.html

SSD Performance Chart
All SSD Charts 2012 [benchmarks] - http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-cha...hmarks,129.html
All SSD RAID 0 Charts 2011 [benchmarks] - http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-rai...hmarks,120.html
Best SSDs For The Money (Auto Update) - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-re...hmark,3269.html
SSD Reviews - http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150954

Source
http://www.anandtech.com/print/2829
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...d=444&Itemid=60
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2...sd-controller/1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive

SSD Controllers
Some Basic idea about SSD and SSD controller
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SSD Firmware and Updates
OCZ - http://www.ocztechnology.com/ssd_tools/
Corsair - http://forum.corsair.com/v3/forumdisplay.php?f=206
Crucial - http://www.crucial.com/support/firmware.aspx
Intel - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...Y&DwnldID=18455
Kingston - http://www.kingston.com/en/support/technical/search
Plextor - http://www.goplextor.com/asia/index.php/download
Samsung - http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads

Previous Thread
The Solid State Storage Thread
The SSD Thread V2, Faster Better Greener Unbreakable!
The SSD Thread V3, The Speed You Need

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post Jul 5 2013, 10:34 PM

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Some Tutorials & FAQs about SSD (Solid State Drive)

Updated on 6 July 2013
Some correction on the answers provided from website

How to Install an SSD (Solid State Drive)
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So what is it that makes an SSD so much faster than an HDD?
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I have read that SSDs have very limited write cycles, and they don't last long. Is this true?
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I have read that SSDs slow down after prolonged use. Is this true?
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How does Internal Secure Erase work on an SSD?
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Over-provisioning. What is it, and how does it work?
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Why do smaller capacity SSDs tend to be slower than higher capacity drives?
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What about services or programs in my operating system such as indexing, pre-fetching, write-caching, defrag etc?
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What is TRIM?
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What settings do I need to adjust in my system BIOS for optimal SSD performance?
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Are SSDs compatible with SATA I & II ?
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What is the difference between SLC and MLC flash memory chips?
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If I'm using an older OS such as Vista or XP, will I still get the performance benefits of SSDs?
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What is the life expectancy of my SSD?
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How can I move my data onto my new SSD?
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How long will my SSD last?
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Does benchmarking my SSD decrease lifespan?
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Will my SSD get hot?
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Do I need to format my SSD? Why doesn't the drive appear in "My Computer" (Windows) or in "Finder" (Mac)?
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How do I find out the firmware version on my SSD?
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Reference Links
1. http://club.myce.com/f138/what-ssd-ssd-faq-297856/
2. http://ocz.com/consumer/ssd-guide/ssd-faqs

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Updated on 6 July 2013

The FAQs continue on here with YouTube videos...
I do realize sometimes it is hard to understand by just read all of the sources through websites/articles. So some short videos are provided as below and hope that they can help to save you some time by just watching tongue.gif .

The Intel SSD Advantage
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SSD vs Hard Drive Performance
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Windows 7 install and SSD upgrade
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How to properly configure the SSD as boot drive and HDD as storage drive
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How to Transfer your Boot Drive to your New Intel SSD - Data Migration
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What is TRIM and Why Does Your SSD Need It?
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The benefits of using a SSD
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Latest News & Reviews!!

Year 2014
Mar 18 Micron/Crucial M550 SSD Review
Feb 2 Intel SSD 730 Review

Year 2013
Dec 29 Samsung 840 EVO 1TB mSATA SSD Review
Dec 19 Crucial M500 mSATA – High Capacity and Power Loss Data Protection
Nov 19 Intel SSD 530 (240GB) Review
Oct 8 Toshiba HG5D Series SATA M.2 SSD Review
Sep 22 Samsung XP941 M.2 PCIe-New Ultra Standard
Sep 13 Samsung’s V-NAND
Sep 6 Plextor unveils M6 2.5" SSDs and M.2 PCI-Express SSDs
Sep 5 SanDisk A110 PCIe SSD
Aug 14 Mushkin to Showcase Scorpion Deluxe SSD
Aug 6 SSD Deathmatch: Crucial's M500 Vs. Samsung's 840 EVO
July 26 ASUS ROG Launches RAIDR Express PCI Express-based SSD
July 25 Samsung SSD 840 EVO Review [All]
July 25 Intel SSD 530 Series High Performance Client SSDs Launched
July 17 Samsung SSD 840 EVO
Jul 10 Adding RAM Prolong the SSD Lifespan
July 8 BIWIN Announced Half-length H6201 Embedded SSD
July 3 Report: Intel SSD 530 Series SSDs Launching Next Week
June 24 Toshiba Launches New 7mm Hybrid Drive Series
June 18 Samsung Starts Production of PCIe SSDs for Ultrabooks
June 17 Toshiba THNSNH 256 GB SSD
June 15 ADATA Unveils the SX2000 1600 GB Solid State Drive
June 14 Intel Releases Data Center S3500 SSDs
June 12 Mushkin Packs Four SandForce Controllers into a PCIe SSD
June 4 SanDisk Intros Extreme II SSD for Gamers, OEM Solutions
May 26 Innodisk Releases World First 1.5 gram SATA µSSDs
May 7 Seagate steps strongly into the solid-state market with four new SSDs
Apr 10 Crucial Rolls Out New M500 Series SSDs
Mar 13 Plextor Reveals Its TLC-based SSD
Mar 8 Seagate Unveils Its Third Generation SSHDs
Feb 7 OCZ Offering Free Copies of Far Cry 3 to Vector SSD Owners

Year 2012 - Deleted to reserve space, but still can refer back from previous SSD Thread.

Owner List
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I'm not the original owner for ssd discussion thread, but on behalf try to help to make the thread goes on  smile.gif .
Anyone who has reliable sources, information or news to share please kindly pm me to update it here as I'm still new learner to SSD and sometimes may busy to miss out some useful info to share  notworthy.gif .
Lets helps to keep this topic move on together  notworthy.gif

The Speed of Lightning That You Need  cool2.gif .
Regards, hmwgbworld.

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just copying from v3

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 5 2013, 07:40 PM)
dude m5pro extreme is overated..

for me its either u go for 
1.Corsair force GS - high read and write - Sandforce
2.Corsair Neutron GTX/Sandisk Extreme II/Seagate 600 Pro - I/O consistency on enterprise grade level - LAMD
3.Samsung 840 pro - Awesome in everyway imaginable - Samsung own in house everything their own.
4.OCZ Vector - Highest Read Performance on 4k - Indilinx
5.Crucial M500 - Good performance go GB value .. day to day. - Marvell.
6.Samsung 840 - TLC - Overall good day to day performance - Samsung ( leader in tlc atm)

i really dont see where the m5pro extreme fits. seriously. and i am against it solely cause it looks like crap and even the box looks like crap.
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i tot plextor m5pro was good enof?
actually.. now which one is the best ard 128gb below ssd?
now using 120gb 520series intel
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post Jul 5 2013, 11:29 PM

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You have one of the BEST SSD in the market. For major and crucial products, stick to Intel for safest bet. Only problem is...no stock :facepalm:...there's major global shortage.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 5 2013, 07:40 PM)
dude m5pro extreme is overated..

for me its either u go for 
1.Corsair force GS - high read and write - Sandforce
2.Corsair Neutron GTX/Sandisk Extreme II/Seagate 600 Pro - I/O consistency on enterprise grade level - LAMD
3.Samsung 840 pro - Awesome in everyway imaginable - Samsung own in house everything their own.
4.OCZ Vector - Highest Read Performance on 4k - Indilinx
5.Crucial M500 - Good performance go GB value .. day to day. - Marvell.
6.Samsung 840 - TLC - Overall good day to day performance - Samsung ( leader in tlc atm)

i really dont see where the m5pro extreme fits. seriously. and i am against it solely cause it looks like crap and even the box looks like crap.
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How come your number one recommendation is using Sandforce?

What means leader in tlc atm?

If I dun wait for Intel 530 and 535, what's your recommendation to use a main drive?
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QUOTE(Cizuka97 @ Jul 6 2013, 06:33 AM)
How come your number one recommendation is using Sandforce?

What means leader in tlc atm?

If I dun wait for Intel 530 and 535, what's your recommendation to use a main drive?
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wasnt a ranking. just stating either of those.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:48 AM)
wasnt a ranking. just stating either of those.
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thanks.
So what is tlc?
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QUOTE(Cizuka97 @ Jul 6 2013, 09:50 AM)
thanks.
So what is tlc?
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Triple layer cell

One of the 3 mjor type ssd nand type in the industry
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QUOTE(milky @ Jul 5 2013, 11:40 PM)
just copying from v3
i tot plextor m5pro was good enof?
actually.. now which one is the best ard 128gb below ssd?
now using 120gb 520series intel
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For me there is no BEST ssd. Just buy one which fits your need and budget.
For me the top SSD in da market is
Samsung 840 Pro
Ocz Vector
Plextor M5Pro
Corsair Neutron GT
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hi all..i'm using Asrock Z77E itx mobo...
underside got 1 msata slot which is running 3gb/s
is there a major throttle down in speed if i put in a 6gb/s msata SSD?
tq in advance
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Thank you so much for the revamped and informative new SSD thread hmwgbworld smile.gif
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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Jul 7 2013, 12:38 AM)
hi all..i'm using Asrock Z77E itx mobo...
underside got 1 msata slot which is running 3gb/s
is there a major throttle down in speed if i put in a 6gb/s msata SSD?
tq in advance
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There will be little throttle down in speed. mSata will only be good option to consider for a rig when your casing can't mount a ssd inside anymore.

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Thank you so much for the revamped and informative new SSD thread hmwgbworld smile.gif
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this thread cool.
Innodisk Releases World First 1.5 gram SATA µSSDs
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Innodisk-...uSSD,22718.html

1.5 gram SATA µSSDs will replace current eMMC solution in smartphone/tablet rclxms.gif
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I just bought a new Plextor M5S 128GB SSD. I removed the old SATA hard drive from my laptop and plugged in the new SSD. I turned on my laptop with a Windows 7 installation disk inserted, booted from the Windows disk, and got the screen where it asks which drive to install Windows onto. It said there were no drives detected.

Then I restarted the computer and went into the BIOS and tried to do a "Hard drive diagnostic test" and it said "Hard drive not exist." The SSD also does not show up in the list of bootable devices.

Next, I put my old hard drive back into my laptop and put the SSD in a USB SATA hard drive enclosure. I plugged the enclosure into a USB port and loaded the BIOS again. I looked at the list of bootable devices and the SSD was listed. Then I loaded Windows. Windows did detect the SSD in the Disk Manager and from there I formatted the SSD. Now I am able to see the SSD listed in My Computer as drive "I".

I tried replacing the hard drive with the SSD again and the BIOS still will not detect it. It only detects it when it is plugged in through the USB enclosure. What do I need to do to get it to detect the SSD normally (plugged into the SATA cable inside the laptop)?
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Just installed Plextor M5S 128GB on my Rampage 3 Formula X58 MB.

Intel Sata 2 - Read 280mb Write 200MB
Marvel Sata 3 - Read 400mb Write 200MB

I would like to know is there anyway that I can increase my read speed to 520mb as per advertise?


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QUOTE(k3et @ Jul 8 2013, 10:39 AM)
Just installed Plextor M5S 128GB on my Rampage 3 Formula X58 MB.

Intel Sata 2 - Read 280mb Write 200MB
Marvel Sata 3 - Read 400mb Write 200MB

I would like to know is there anyway that I can increase my read speed to 520mb as per advertise?
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board native limitation. You need to connect it to marvell sata 3 port, and also remember to enable AHCI
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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Jul 7 2013, 01:38 AM)
hi all..i'm using Asrock Z77E itx mobo...
underside got 1 msata slot which is running 3gb/s
is there a major throttle down in speed if i put in a 6gb/s msata SSD?
tq in advance
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the speed will be capped at 300mhz max transfer speed.
but worry not la, your daily use doesn't goes as that high, and you still can enjoy the superb speed of ssd
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Yes, I already connected to Marvell sata 3 port with AHCI enable.

The best I got is 400mb read. Wondering is that possible my other setting or tweak that I can boost the reading speed back to 490~520mb as per advertise or average other ppl reading speed.
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QUOTE(k3et @ Jul 8 2013, 11:23 AM)
Yes, I already connected to Marvell sata 3 port with AHCI enable.

The best I got is 400mb read. Wondering is that possible my other setting or tweak that I can boost the reading speed back to 490~520mb as per advertise or average other ppl reading speed.
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Your is old motherboard, the Marvel 3 SATA 3 port bandwidth probably limited by the PCI express 5GB/s speed.
just live with it or upgrade your motherboard to newer one with true native intel 6GB/s SATA port.
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QUOTE(vinctham91 @ Jul 8 2013, 08:43 AM)
I just bought a new Plextor M5S 128GB SSD. I removed the old SATA hard drive from my laptop and plugged in the new SSD. I turned on my laptop with a Windows 7 installation disk inserted, booted from the Windows disk, and got the screen where it asks which drive to install Windows onto. It said there were no drives detected.

Then I restarted the computer and went into the BIOS and tried to do a "Hard drive diagnostic test" and it said "Hard drive not exist." The SSD also does not show up in the list of bootable devices.

Next, I put my old hard drive back into my laptop and put the SSD in a USB SATA hard drive enclosure. I plugged the enclosure into a USB port and loaded the BIOS again. I looked at the list of bootable devices and the SSD was listed. Then I loaded Windows. Windows did detect the SSD in the Disk Manager and from there I formatted the SSD. Now I am able to see the SSD listed in My Computer as drive "I".

I tried replacing the hard drive with the SSD again and the BIOS still will not detect it. It only detects it when it is plugged in through the USB enclosure. What do I need to do to get it to detect the SSD normally (plugged into the SATA cable inside the laptop)?
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Bro, you are not alone.
I also encountered similar issue when i bought this to replace my old SSD.
Sometime can detect in BIOS, and sometime can't.
I check on Plextor forum, there is a few suggestions given :

1.Download and upgrade to latest firmware. (This have solved my problem!)
2.Change BIOS power saving mode into S3.
3.Replace Power Supply.


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QUOTE(syk @ Jul 8 2013, 01:43 PM)
Bro, you are not alone.
I also encountered similar issue when i bought this to replace my old SSD.
Sometime can detect in BIOS, and sometime can't.
I check on Plextor forum, there is a few suggestions given :

1.Download and upgrade to latest firmware. (This have solved my problem!)
2.Change BIOS power saving mode into S3.
3.Replace Power Supply.
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1. I already update the SSD to latest firmware (Problem NOT solve cry.gif )
2. My BIOS do not have that power saving mode setting
3. Laptop can replace power supply?? blink.gif



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QUOTE(vinctham91 @ Jul 8 2013, 01:51 PM)
1. I already update the SSD to latest firmware (Problem NOT solve cry.gif )
2. My BIOS do not have that power saving mode setting
3. Laptop can replace power supply??  blink.gif
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Maybe is compatibility issue of your laptop.
What is the brand / model and motherboard type?
Did you try to turn on ACHI in Bios?
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QUOTE(vinctham91 @ Jul 8 2013, 01:51 PM)
1. I already update the SSD to latest firmware (Problem NOT solve cry.gif )
2. My BIOS do not have that power saving mode setting
3. Laptop can replace power supply??  blink.gif
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1. Try update your bios, but not sure can solve this problem or not.
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QUOTE(syk @ Jul 8 2013, 02:06 PM)
Maybe is compatibility issue of your laptop.
What is the brand / model and motherboard type?
Did you try to turn on ACHI in Bios?
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I'm the lucky one, get a bad unit SSD, i believe quite rare case right?!... mad.gif

I just found a friend using Plextor m5s 128GB and I tried to detect it in my Lenovo Y470 BIOS, it works!

So now I just have to wait the seller to switch a new m5s for me... thumbup.gif
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I think I want to buy OCZ Vector 4 but not sure where to get it? Doesn't seem to be selling in lowyat shops and couldn't find lowyat topic selling it also..
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Jul 8 2013, 11:18 PM)
I think I want to buy OCZ Vector 4 but not sure where to get it? Doesn't seem to be selling in lowyat shops and couldn't find lowyat topic selling it also..
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Perhaps u mean vector or vertex 4 whistling.gif ?
Yea I didnt see either one of them in lowyat price list now. Instead, I saw a new line up of Vertex 450 from OCZ.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex...iew,3517-7.html

I think garage sellers may still have stock for vertex4 hmm.gif .

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 9 2013, 12:07 AM)
Perhaps u mean vector or vertex 4  whistling.gif ?
Yea I didnt see either one of them in lowyat price list now. Instead, I saw a new line up of Vertex 450 from OCZ.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex...iew,3517-7.html

I think garage sellers may still have stock for vertex4  hmm.gif .
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Ya I got it wrong, heard vertex 4 has good reviews smile.gif is vector newer and faster than vertex 4?
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Guys, planning to get an SSD by month end, I'm looking to speed up my old AMD rig, an x3 710 on M4A785TD-V Evo. Read quite a few articles but still need to clear some Q's

1. Other than Plextor M5S 128GB, what else should l consider for a budget of RM300?
2. AHCI mode must be set before plugging in the SSD? looking to fresh install the OS
3. Same thing like HDD right? need to initialize & format before 1st use?
4. Anyone has the same mobo? any tips?

Any pointers will be of great help
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:38 AM)
Guys, planning to get an SSD by month end, I'm looking to speed up my old AMD rig, an x3 710 on M4A785TD-V Evo. Read quite a few articles but still need to clear some Q's

1. Other than Plextor M5S 128GB, what else should l consider for a budget of RM300?
2. AHCI mode must be set before plugging in the SSD? looking to fresh install the OS
3. Same thing like HDD right? need to initialize & format before 1st use?
4. Anyone has the same mobo? any tips?

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For SSDs recomendation you should read this https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=61539477
But plextor SSD arent that bad, it was the a cheapest performance SSD i could buy when the price was still near 1GB = 1 dollar (in singapore lah) sweat.gif

2. yup, to avoid performance drop, switch to AHCI after installed OS is pain in the butt.
3. update the firmware before doing anything, but if install new OS you dont have to do anything, just like HDD.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jul 9 2013, 11:44 AM)
For SSDs recomendation you should read this https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=61539477
But plextor SSD arent that bad, it was the a cheapest performance SSD i could buy when the price was still near 1GB = 1 dollar (in singapore lah) sweat.gif

2. yup, to avoid performance drop, switch to AHCI after installed OS is pain in the butt.
3. update the firmware before doing anything, but if install new OS you dont have to do anything, just like HDD.
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QUOTE(milky @ Jul 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
the one i bolded is need to switch @ BIOS for all SSD?
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Yup, some SandForce based SSD require AHCI mode to update its firmware, and it is necessary as it will improve performance compare to IDE mode, because you will get newer native AHCI driver from INTEL/AMD instead of default driver from Microsoft which may only treat your SSD like a HDD.
Newer mobo is default to AHCI, older one are mostly IDE if i recall correctly,

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jul 9 2013, 12:23 PM)
Yup, some SandForce based SSD require AHCI mode to update its firmware, and it is necessary as it will improve performance compare to IDE mode, because you will get newer native AHCI driver from INTEL/AMD instead of default driver from Microsoft which may only treat your SSD like a HDD.
Newer mobo is default to AHCI, older one are mostly IDE if i recall correctly,
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QUOTE(milky @ Jul 9 2013, 12:32 PM)
sorry intel520 120gb is sandforce? cause not reallly expert in SSD...
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Source http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/intel-s...ty-to-sandforce
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jul 9 2013, 01:09 PM)
Yup
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Source http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/intel-s...ty-to-sandforce
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I decided to get Samsung 840 Pro. It is fastest compare to rest and only OCZ Vector beats it.

However reading the reviews, Samsung seems to be all positive while OCZ Vector has quite a number of negative reviews that says that the harddisk is blazingly fast while it works... which is just 2-3 months before it fails and need to send for warranty.
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Ya I got it wrong, heard vertex 4 has good reviews smile.gif is vector newer and faster than vertex 4?
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I decided to get Samsung 840 Pro. It is fastest compare to rest and only OCZ Vector beats it.

However reading the reviews, Samsung seems to be all positive while OCZ Vector has quite a number of negative reviews that says that the harddisk is blazingly fast while it works... which is just 2-3 months before it fails and need to send for warranty.
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In terms of release date from latest to oldest:
Vertex 450 > Vector > Vertex 4.
Hmm previously ocz is having lot of bad feedback at the production of older models. New models seem ok imo, but the easier way to check might just head to newegg website tongue.gif .
Samsung 840 pro is expensive at higher capacity ones.

QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jul 9 2013, 12:23 PM)
Yup, some SandForce based SSD require AHCI mode to update its firmware, and it is necessary as it will improve performance compare to IDE mode, because you will get newer native AHCI driver from INTEL/AMD instead of default driver from Microsoft which may only treat your SSD like a HDD.
Newer mobo is default to AHCI, older one are mostly IDE if i recall correctly,
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Yup, indeed nod.gif .
AHCI vs IDE is obvious at the "Welcome" screen loading time, AHCI just skipped it and IDE mode will load like HDD.
From boot screen to the Window Logo screen just almost the same speed imo.
Tested Intel 520 at old mobo sata2 [no AHCI]
while corsair force 3 in z68 mobo with AHCI enabled.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 9 2013, 05:48 PM)
In terms of release date from latest to oldest:
Vertex 450 > Vector > Vertex 4.
Hmm previously ocz is having lot of bad feedback at the production of older models. New models seem ok imo, but the easier way to check might just head to newegg website  tongue.gif .
Samsung 840 pro is expensive at higher capacity ones.
Yup, indeed  nod.gif .
AHCI vs IDE is obvious at the "Welcome" screen loading time, AHCI just skipped it and IDE mode will load like HDD.
From boot screen to the Window Logo screen just almost the same speed imo.
Tested Intel 520 at old mobo sata2 [no AHCI]
while corsair force 3 in z68 mobo with AHCI enabled.
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okay so lets say I switched the Sata setting to AHCI, what would happen to the HDDs that are connected as storage? or the files in them for that matter?
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Anyone know where can we buy Samsung 840 SSD? macam only got one seller in garage sales selling but he in jakarta now...

Does anyone know any shops in lowyat/digitalmall that sells it?

thanks!

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 10 2013, 02:11 PM)
okay so lets say I switched the Sata setting to AHCI, what would happen to the HDDs that are connected as storage? or the files in them for that matter?
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Hmm not sure how the results will be, I didn't try those config on my HDD. If using AHCI mode on HDD, I think the speed will be improved a little for HDD as boot drive.

QUOTE(iori57 @ Jul 10 2013, 02:16 PM)
Anyone know where can we buy Samsung 840 SSD? macam only got one seller in garage sales selling but he in jakarta now...

Does anyone know any shops in lowyat/digitalmall that sells it?

thanks!
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you mean ronald?

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 10 2013, 06:31 PM)
Hmm not sure how the results will be, I didn't try those config on my HDD. If using AHCI mode on HDD, I think the speed will be improved a little for HDD as boot drive.
you mean ronald?
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Yup smile.gif You bought from him as well?

He said that 256GB is out of stock sad.gif don't know how to get
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Yup smile.gif You bought from him as well?

He said that 256GB is out of stock sad.gif don't know how to get
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Havent' try to deal with him, because so far only see him selling samsung ssd with good feedback from customers.
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interesting article for those who want to increase their ssd lifespan..

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QUOTE(shadow_calamity @ Jul 11 2013, 07:09 PM)
interesting article for those who want to increase their ssd lifespan..

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So far only did Crystal Mark benchmark (which I suppose is for compressible data only?). Later will post HD Tune Pro smile.gif

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/7150/samsung...rites-for-120gb

Samsung 840 Evo, 1TB capacity.

Also this baby, which is already found in MBA 2013:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Samsung-X...PCIe,23107.html
http://gadgetmedia.org/news/samsung-high-s...ass-production/

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ahemm... it's 1TB
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 18 2013, 12:10 PM)
ahemm... it's 1TB
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jul 18 2013, 10:50 AM)
Mac Book Air 2013 PCIE SSD macam ini ker?

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Not impressed with the 4k speed at all.

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jul 18 2013, 03:46 PM)
Mac Book Air 2013 PCIE SSD macam ini ker?

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Not impressed with the 4k speed at all.
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http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/2013-m...e-ssd-review/4/

see here tongue.gif

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Ohh ya my bad.

Here's the fella's AS SSD:

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And here's mine:

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Damn mine lost LOL

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jul 18 2013, 04:01 PM)
Ohh ya my bad.

Here's the fella's AS SSD:

user posted image
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For this particular baby, look at here:
http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/2013-m...e-ssd-review/6/

The 4k issue is very particular to Windows OS hmm.gif
Apple must have done something laugh.gif

Let's see how it perform when it pop up in other laptop.
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Is A-DATA SSD SP900 128gb reliable?
Rarely come across this brand.

Anyone using this SSD?
Thanks!

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jul 18 2013, 10:50 AM)
Nice source added, recently a lot brands focusing on enterprise grade ssd. But the price is still expensive as they are new lineups.
Plextor also doing their new series of ssd since the computex 2013, not sure about those details yet. A matter of time plextor reveal them hmm.gif .
Samsung also move forward to a 19nm chip like toshiba did a week ago iinm hmm.gif . For the reasons of better speed, power consumption and bla3 tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 18 2013, 09:20 PM)
Nice source added, recently a lot brands focusing on enterprise grade ssd. But the price is still expensive as they are new lineups.
Plextor also doing their new series of ssd since the computex 2013, not sure about those details yet. A matter of time plextor reveal them  hmm.gif .
Samsung also move forward to a 19nm chip like toshiba did a week ago iinm  hmm.gif . For the reasons of better speed, power consumption and bla3  tongue.gif .
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I become ever more hopeful that in 2-3 years time, the same RM600 that get us 256G now could land us a 1TB SSD. If they come in PCIe 3 wub.gif rclxms.gif bye bye SATA thumbup.gif

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Will the samsung 840 evo cheaper or more expensive than the 840 pro of the same capacity?

Aiseh... just bought 840 pro (haven't even reached) now this announcement sad.gif
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Will the samsung 840 evo cheaper or more expensive than the 840 pro of the same capacity?

Aiseh... just bought 840 pro (haven't even reached) now this announcement sad.gif
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Pro still more expensive, and come with 5 years warranty vs Evo 3 years.
Evo is just an upgrade over normal 840.
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Is A-DATA SSD SP900 128gb reliable?
Rarely come across this brand.

Anyone using this SSD?
Thanks!
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Not so reliable imo, since i'm just look through newegg feedback.
Quite a few customers that stated it works good but the ssd dead/problematic like data loss after weeks/months of usage.
Besides it also has firmware problems that not sure fixed or not, some claims that can't update to the latest firmware though official website to solve trim command option in OS.
Lastly, customer service looks bad by most bad feedback.
Performance is still reasonable. Try dig some latest reviews if u really wanted this ssd before buying.
This brand is quite often seen in US/Europe i guess. Rarely seen any reseller of this brand in MY.

QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jul 18 2013, 09:48 PM)
I become ever more hopeful that in 2-3 years time, the same RM600 that get us 256G now could land us a 1TB SSD. If they come in PCIe 3  wub.gif  rclxms.gif bye bye SATA  thumbup.gif
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Hopefully it will be cool2.gif , then may eventually replace mechanical drives if at the similar price.
Saw a review at somewhere, pcie 2.0 can support up to 1gb+ per sec transfer speed. Not sure what will get from pcie 3.0 rclxub.gif .
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hi guys, i jz read through the thread and found that samsung ssd seems have a good review from you guys, may i know what is the pricing for it? i looking for ssd around 120gb only for windows. Is there any recommended model from all big bro? Thanks in advanced yaaaa
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QUOTE(jliewch2003 @ Jul 19 2013, 06:51 PM)
hi guys, i jz read through the thread and found that samsung ssd seems have a good review from you guys, may i know what is the pricing for it? i looking for ssd around 120gb only for windows. Is there any recommended model from all big bro? Thanks in advanced yaaaa
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Get samsung 840 pro 128gb, around RM450, best ssd with speed and reliability from all the reviews i read. My brother bought some corsair ssd from lowyat 128mb also RM400 already but not as good.

lowyat forum only got one seller for samsung 840 pro, but he seems like mia for quite a while d, check out his thread
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Get samsung 840 pro 128gb, around RM450, best ssd with speed and reliability from all the reviews i read. My brother bought some corsair ssd from lowyat 128mb also RM400 already but not as good.

lowyat forum only got one seller for samsung 840 pro, but he seems like mia for quite a while d, check out his thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2645620&hl=
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izit the samsung 840 pro 128gb is SLC or MLC?
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QUOTE(ppy @ Jul 20 2013, 11:03 AM)
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thank you for the information on the front page on ssd optimization link... very good read... just bought a kingston hyperx 3k 120GB... will make a fresh window 7 installation... btw, i see no owner list for kingston? erm is kingston that bad?
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QUOTE(c2_lover @ Jul 21 2013, 12:07 AM)
thank you for the information on the front page on ssd optimization link... very good read... just bought a kingston hyperx 3k 120GB... will make a fresh window 7 installation... btw, i see no owner list for kingston? erm is kingston that bad?
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There should be some others using kingston ssd too, but no ppl post here for ownership i guess.
You will be the first unsure.gif .
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There should be some others using kingston ssd too, but no ppl post here for ownership i guess.
You will be the first  unsure.gif .
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 21 2013, 12:36 AM)
There should be some others using kingston ssd too, but no ppl post here for ownership i guess.
You will be the first  unsure.gif .
Nope, Kingston is also good SSD brand. Maybe not just as famous as other brands.
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Anyone know where to get samsung 840 pro ssd?

it's out of stock from ronald(the only one who sell 840pro in lyn)

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QUOTE(uncontrolled @ Jul 21 2013, 02:03 AM)
Anyone know where to get samsung 840 pro ssd?

it's out of stock from ronald(the only one who sell 840pro in lyn)

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I ordered mine from ebay U.S. last week but till now still haven't reach lol.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jul 21 2013, 01:01 AM)
Come I donut satu biggrin.gif
Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD smile.gif
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Added to the list nod.gif .
QUOTE(c2_lover @ Jul 21 2013, 01:16 AM)
im the first kingston user?lol  rclxm9.gif  rclxms.gif
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why nowadays ppl recommend plextor m5s instead of crucial m4 anymore? sorry i am abit outdated in SSD..
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why nowadays ppl recommend plextor m5s instead of crucial m4 anymore? sorry i am abit outdated in SSD..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 22 2013, 08:55 PM)
why nowadays ppl recommend plextor m5s instead of crucial m4 anymore? sorry i am abit outdated in SSD..
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Because previously Crucial M4 is best bang for buck for someone to look for ssd as normal usage.
Now Plextor M5S offer cheaper, better performance than M4 and thats why people are recommend M5S over M4 icon_rolleyes.gif .
For more info/comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6090/plextor...-256gb-review/8
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Where to get Plex? Should we use IOrbit for SSD to maintain it? Or no need?
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Where to get Plex?
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A lot of place, LYP, Lelong, Garage Sale, etc.
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No Need.

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 23 2013, 08:08 PM)
A lot of place, LYP, Lelong, Garage Sale, etc.
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Any recommended shop in LYP?
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just installed a Sandisk SSD to my 2 year old dell lappy.... was a b**** to get it installed as there's no hdd access panel.. but it was all worth it..

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QUOTE
Intel SSD 530 Series High Performance Client SSDs Launched

Intel launched its newest line of high-performance client SSDs, the SSD 530 series. Built in the 7 mm-thick 2.5-inch, 80 mm M.2, and mSATA form-factors, with SATA 6 Gb/s interface, these drives come in capacities starting from 80 GB. In the 2.5-inch form-factor, the SSD 530 series is available in 80 GB, 120 GB, 180 GB, 240 GB, 360 GB, and 480 GB variants; the 80 mm M.2 and mSATA form-factors it will be sold to OEMs in 80 GB, 120 GB, 180 GB, and 360 GB.

In its product brief, Intel didn't mention performance numbers specific to capacities, but gave out numbers applicable to all capacities - up to 540 MB/s reads, up to 490 MB/s writes, up to 41,000 IOPS 4K random reads, and up to 80,000 IOPS 4K random writes. The series is built around the latest version of SandForce SF-2281 controller with a few LSI refinements. It's based on Intel's 20 nm MLC NAND flash. The SSD 530 series, at least in the 2.5-inch form-factor, are expected to displace SSD 525 and SSD 520 series models from their current price-points.

Source : http://www.techpowerup.com/187749/intel-ss...s-launched.html

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung...b-models-tested

Anandtech review of Samsung 840 Evo.
Numbers look really good (better than normal 840).

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My first SSD at the beginning of time... 40GB only lol install windows then no space for anything else already... but that time damn expensive

I think is corsair force series

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Update: My Samsung 840 pro arrived!! quite happy with the write speed though I not sure why the 4KQD32 score so low.. but I don't know what is 4KQD32 also lol

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ASUS ROG Launches RAIDR Express PCI Express-based SSD

ASUS ROG today announced RAIDR Express, the first PCI Express-based SSD in the world with a DuoMode feature that allows it to work with either legacy (traditional) or modern UEFI BIOS. Aimed at hardcore gamers and PC enthusiasts demanding a faster and more reliable computer experience, RAIDR Express combines the best compatibility and great performance with incredible durability.

With 240 GB capacity, sequential 830 MB/s read and 810 MB/s write speeds, and bundled with tons of features that maintain the high-speed performance and extend the lifespan, RAIDR Express is made for real speed-demons. Boasting the gorgeous ROG red and black design with double-sided metal shielding and an incredible 620,000 hours mean time between failure (MTBF) to ensure quality, RAIDR Express is built to last.

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Exclusive design, exclusive flexibility
RAIDR Express isn't like other SSDs. It's the world's first and only PCIe-based SSD with DuoMode BIOS support. With two BIOS chips onboard, RAIDR Express includes a hardware switch that lets users easily alternate between legacy and UEFI modes, ensuring the best compatibility with PCs old and new.

In legacy mode, the RAIDR Express can be used on older motherboards - those with a traditional (non-UEFI) BIOS. By switching to UEFI mode, users can significantly boost PC startup times. With the flexibility of choosing which mode is best, users can enjoy the benefits of both.

Made for real speed demons
With the latest generation dual LSI SandForce controller, Toshiba-made 19 nm 16K-page size multi-level cell (MLC) sync-NAND flash, 100,000 4K read/write input/output operations per second (IOPS) and 830/ 810 MB/s sequential read/write speeds, RAIDR Express doesn't keep users waiting.

As well, RAIDR Express has several other speed-boosting tricks up its sleeve. The bundled RAMDisk utility that allows users to dedicate up to 80% of a computer's available RAM for use as a high-speed virtual drive that accelerates the loading of favorite applications and games. In ASUS tests, read speeds of over 12,000 MB/s were reached.

Better still, RAMDisk extends the life of RAIDR Express by reducing unnecessary write operations. RAMDisk even backs itself up to the main system drive when the PC is shut down and restores itself automatically at power-up, for maximum speed and minimum hassle. The ROG SSD TweakIt tool ups the speed stakes still further by relocating repetitive write activities to the RAMDisk for even faster operation, while keeping RAIDR Express at peak performance for much longer. SSD TweakIt can also be used to apply a preset profile that refines processor settings automatically to achieve additional speed boosts of up to 5%.

RAIDR Express also includes ROG HybriDisk technology super-charges hard disk drive storage. HybriDisk allows RAIDR Express to act as a solid-state cache for high-capacity hard drives up to 4 TB, but its PCIe architecture means data transfers smash the 600 MB/s SATA limit for traditional PC storage. The included ROG CrystalDiskMark benchmark tool allows users to see for themselves just how fast RAIDR Express can go - and keep on going.

Fast, compatible and built to last
RAIDR Express is fast and offers the widest system compatibility, but it's also built to last. RAIDR Express is rated at an amazing 620,000 hours' mean time between failure (MTBF), so users are assured year after year of trouble-free use and strict testing ensures wide system compatibility.

RAIDR Express also has a highly durable design packed with unique ROG innovations designed to extend its lifespan. Tough, double-sided metal shielding provides great heat dissipation and reduces electromagnetic interference (EMI), improving cooling and overall stability.

Specification

    PCI Express 2.0 x2
    240 GB capacity
    Dual LSI SandForce SF-2281 controllers
    Toshiba 19 nm 16K page size MLC Sync-NAND Flash
    Sequential read/write speed: 830/810 MB/s
    Up to 100,000 4K read/write IOPS (Input/Output operations Per Second)
    Legacy and UEFI BIOS support
    Driver-free with TRIM support
    Windows 7 / Windows 8 compatible
    Windows 8 Secure Boot compatible
    157 x 120 x 20 mm

Source : http://www.techpowerup.com/187824/asus-rog...-based-ssd.html

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jul 26 2013, 01:09 PM)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung...b-models-tested
Anandtech review of Samsung 840 Evo.
Numbers look really good (better than normal 840).
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Updated to the list, thx for providing nice info & reviews nod.gif .
Asus PCIe SSD seems outstanding in looking, not sure how does it perform if compared to others unsure.gif .

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Updated to the list, thx for providing nice info & reviews nod.gif .
Asus PCIe SSD seems outstanding in looking, not sure how does it perform if compared to others  unsure.gif .
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My first SSD at the beginning of time... 40GB only lol install windows then no space for anything else already... but that time damn expensive

I think is corsair force series

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Update: My Samsung 840 pro arrived!! quite happy with the write speed though I not sure why the 4KQD32 score so low.. but I don't know what is 4KQD32 also lol

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Update: My Samsung 840 pro arrived!! quite happy with the write speed though I not sure why the 4KQD32 score so low.. but I don't know what is 4KQD32 also lol
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Are its partitions properly aligned?
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Hi guys, any Sifu know which size of ssd can fit to lenovo g400s? 7mm or standard 9mm ? Thanks

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lenovo g400s 5936-9953 , i5 3230m

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Hi guys, any Sifu know which size of ssd can fit to lenovo g400s? 7mm or standard 9mm ?  Thanks
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thanks 4 reply. the thing is, i decide to buy both laptop n ssd together. went to lowyat few days ago. ask quite a number of shop but nobody can give me an answer. the sale person n technical guy all just nod their head.

decided to get plextor m5s 128gb (9.5mm) so , i do no can fit or not

anyone here using lenovo g400s
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I thought ramdisk do not provide visible improvement anymore with ssd nowadays??
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QUOTE(op 1 @ Jul 27 2013, 11:27 PM)
thanks 4 reply. the thing is, i decide to buy both laptop n ssd together. went to lowyat few days ago. ask quite a number of shop but nobody can give me an answer. the sale person n technical guy all just nod their head.

decided to get plextor m5s 128gb (9.5mm) so , i do no can fit or not

anyone here using lenovo g400s
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G400s still a laptop size, so the included hdd size should be still around 9.5mm imo.
If ultrabook, then it would be mostly like using pcie ssd or 7.0mm hdd/ssd.
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Hi guise, my 10 months old SSD currently losing like 5%-10% of it original speed. My question is, will it go back to it former glory if i format or do a secure erase?

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Can explain more on how to check? clueless..
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Run the AS SSD Benchmark program and it will display the partition offset. It should be on the line above your SSD's storage capacity. If it is "1024 K - OK" or any value that is cleanly divisible by 4, then your SSD is aligned.

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The number of cases where ramdisk shows a visible improvement has significantly reduced with SSDs, but it is still not zero.

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 27 2013, 11:54 PM)
Hi guise, my 10 months old SSD currently losing like 5%-10% of it original speed. My question is, will it go back to it former glory if i format or do a secure erase?
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It should regain most of its speed on either format or secure erase. But it is also not worth the trouble and your performance loss might not reduce much if your SSD has already achieved 'steady state' performance.
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thanks hmwgbworld, but normal laptop height around 32mm n g400s is 21mm, tat why worry about the size. the only 120gb ssd with 7mm is Sandisk ultra plus. but on prefer tis brand.
my budget is around rm300-350
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Hi guys. Would appreciate some help regarding my what I think is now a dead SSD. Is there anyway to be completely certain it's dead?

My rig won't detect it, so I can't boot. I plug it into a different computer while in windows and it doesn't appear as a drive. I'm quite annoyed by this.

I have an OCZ Vector.

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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 28 2013, 12:34 AM)
Run the AS SSD Benchmark program and it will display the partition offset. It should be on the line above your SSD's storage capacity. If it is "1024 K - OK" or any value that is cleanly divisible by 4, then your SSD is aligned.
The number of cases where ramdisk shows a visible improvement has significantly reduced with SSDs, but it is still not zero.
It should regain most of its speed on either format or secure erase. But it is also not worth the trouble and your performance loss might not reduce much if your SSD has already achieved 'steady state' performance.
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sifu, followed your advice and ran the benchmark.. seems like it is not aligned.. how to fix it?

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sifu, followed your advice and ran the benchmark.. seems like it is not aligned.. how to fix it?
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One method would be to start over from scratch. Repartition and reformat the SSD with the Windows 7 installer, confirm that it is aligned and then reinstall everything. Windows 7 and above will always create aligned partitions if they are given the opportunity to repartition the SSD/HDD.

Only reformatting will not fix the problem, as the problem lies with the partitions itself.

An alternative would be to clone your SSD to another HDD/SSD, and then clone back to your SSD but with the partitions aligned. You'll have to find out which cloning software can do this or how to do it. It might be as simple as creating the partitions first and then cloning the contents.

I recommend reinstalling from scratch if you did not do a clean install of Windows 7, like upgraded from Windows XP.

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Weird, i did formatted the ssd during windows 7 installation on boot up. Didnt do any partition also it is just one big chunk.

Yesterday i googled on hoe to realign the ssd, found a guide with 3 different methods, easiest is to use mini tool partition wizard which have one button press auto align feature. After using it my windows explorer crashes on boot up and cant do anything lol. Now reformatting again... heard that every reformat damages ssd so now a bit worried.
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You can use quick format if that option is available. A full format is only needed once in a very long while or when you need to confirm that there are no bad sectors.

As for the 'damage', don't worry. You can theoretically reformat once everyday and still expect the SSD to survive to its third year. If it was quick formatted, it won't even notice.

I hope that you deleted all the partitions and recreated the partitions during installation. This is done before formatting. Otherwise you might still get the same "1 K - BAD" status.

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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 28 2013, 03:09 PM)
You can use quick format if that option is available. A full format is only needed once in a very long while or when you need to confirm that there are no bad sectors.

As for the 'damage', don't worry. You can theoretically reformat once everyday and still expect the SSD to survive to its third year. If it was quick formatted, it won't even notice.

I hope that you deleted all the partitions and recreated the partitions during installation. This is done before formatting. Otherwise you might still get the same "1 K - BAD" status.
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After partition wizard did the magic, I reinstalled windows 7 again doing a quick format and now it is aligned smile.gif

Thanks a bunch everling!!!

New benchmark results way better than before, this is great!!

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Hi, I wonder if anyone has installed and successfully activate TRIM on their Lenovo G400S?
I'm going to purchase that soon (with 1TB HDD) so I'm thinking about slot another adapter to put the HDD and put the optical drive aside for external use.
Now the real question is:
1. Any settings on BIOS (UEFI?) to activate the TRIM?
2. Does fresh install Windows 8 automatically activate the TRIM? Or do I need to runs through the steps to activate it?
I want to save much trouble cause I'll be short on time and need to transfer all 200GB of data from my (this) laptop quickly to the new laptop.
All comments (and critiques?) are appreciated. Thank you all. notworthy.gif

Note: I'm going for Plextor M5S 128GB, if info confirmed, I'll straight bank-in and have it ship right away. brows.gif

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QUOTE(iori57 @ Jul 28 2013, 05:13 PM)
After partition wizard did the magic, I reinstalled windows 7 again doing a quick format and now it is aligned smile.gif

Thanks a bunch everling!!!

New benchmark results way better than before, this is great!!
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That does look fine, and you're welcome. smile.gif

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jul 29 2013, 09:40 AM)
Hi, I wonder if anyone has installed and successfully activate TRIM on their Lenovo G400S?
I'm going to purchase that soon (with 1TB HDD) so I'm thinking about slot another adapter to put the HDD and put the optical drive aside for external use.
Now the real question is:
1. Any settings on BIOS (UEFI?) to activate the TRIM?
2. Does fresh install Windows 8 automatically activate the TRIM? Or do I need to runs through the steps to activate it?
I want to save much trouble cause I'll be short on time and need to transfer all 200GB of data from my (this) laptop quickly to the new laptop.
All comments (and critiques?) are appreciated. Thank you all. notworthy.gif

Note: I'm going for Plextor M5S 128GB, if info confirmed, I'll straight bank-in and have it ship right away.  brows.gif
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On the Windows platform, wasn't TRIM enabled if the SSD was on AHCI and you have a TRIM-supported OS?
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On the Windows platform, wasn't TRIM enabled if the SSD was on AHCI and you have a TRIM-supported OS?
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Erm, I believe the laptop that I'm going to purchase is going to support TRIM right? (Windows 8 support TRIM??)
If it's going to be a new laptop, I assume the BIOS (UEFI?) will default AHCI on the SATA right? I just want to confirm.

And, to rephrase my question: Will fresh install Windows 8 on a new laptop (Lenovo G400S) auto enable the TRIM?

Thank you for your input. notworthy.gif

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Erm, I believe the laptop that I'm going to purchase is going to support TRIM right? (Windows 8 support TRIM??)
If it's going to be a new laptop, I assume the BIOS (UEFI?) will default AHCI on the SATA right? I just want to confirm.
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Windows 7 and above (including Windows 8) supports TRIM. Windows Vista and below doesn't support TRIM.

I can't confirm if your intended laptop would default to AHCI or not, but I would be surprised if it defaulted to IDE. And even more surprised if you can't manually change it to AHCI. I have a five year old laptop that can be manually switched to AHCI, long before SSDs came around.

It also doesn't matter if it defaults to AHCI or not, as long as you can manually switch it to AHCI.
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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 29 2013, 10:55 AM)
Windows 7 and above (including Windows 8) supports TRIM. Windows Vista and below doesn't support TRIM.

I can't confirm if your intended laptop would default to AHCI or not, but I would be surprised if it defaulted to IDE. And even more surprised if you can't manually change it to AHCI. I have a five year old laptop that can be manually switched to AHCI, long before SSDs came around.

It also doesn't matter if it defaults to AHCI or not, as long as you can manually switch it to AHCI.
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Even with the latest laptop and manufacturer still uses IDE mode? shocking.gif doh.gif
FYI my Dell Studio 1555 near 4 years is AHCI by default and can switch between IDE and AHCI. hmm.gif
Oh gosh, now I'm even more confused... need Lenovo G400S owner to clarify this:

Lenovo G400S, SATA default mode, AHCI or IDE?
And can it changed between mode?

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jul 29 2013, 11:19 AM)
Even with the latest laptop and manufacturer still uses IDE mode?  shocking.gif  doh.gif
FYI my Dell Studio 1555 near 4 years is AHCI by default and can switch between IDE and AHCI. hmm.gif
Oh gosh, now I'm even more confused... need Lenovo G400S owner to clarify this:

Lenovo G400S, SATA default mode, AHCI or IDE?
And can it changed between mode?

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IDE mode still existed for compatibility reason, for example, Plextor SSD firmware updater will not work unless you temporary set the SATA mode to IDE mode.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jul 29 2013, 11:19 AM)
Even with the latest laptop and manufacturer still uses IDE mode?  shocking.gif  doh.gif
FYI my Dell Studio 1555 near 4 years is AHCI by default and can switch between IDE and AHCI. hmm.gif
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My current laptop also defaults to AHCI and I certainly would expect any modern laptop to default to AHCI and fully support SSDs. So much so that the very idea hadn't crossed my mind until you brought it up; and hopefully it won't come up again thereafter. But without access to a Lenovo G400S, I can't confirm it.
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Jul 28 2013, 05:13 PM)
After partition wizard did the magic, I reinstalled windows 7 again doing a quick format and now it is aligned smile.gif

Thanks a bunch everling!!!

New benchmark results way better than before, this is great!!

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My Plextor M5S 256G Slightly slower than this.. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Jul 29 2013, 07:41 PM)
My Plextor M5S 256G Slightly slower than this..  rclxms.gif
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Hehe.. make sure you aligned your ssd, that will give it max performance. The numbers doesn't mean anything as long as it is running its full potential while eliminating unnecessary writes -> longer life!

Usually higher speed comes with a price (for example overclocking runs hotter) but for ssd seems like speed and reliability is in the same direction..
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Jul 31 2013, 09:02 PM)
Hehe.. make sure you aligned your ssd, that will give it max performance. The numbers doesn't mean anything as long as it is running its full potential while eliminating unnecessary writes -> longer life!

Usually higher speed comes with a price (for example overclocking runs hotter) but for ssd seems like speed and reliability is in the same direction..
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I think my plextor (yet not pro) can't beat samsung 840pro but very satisfied with it.. I use ramdisk to avoid unnecessary read and write on ssd..

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is ssd price increasing or decrease ?
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Jul 31 2013, 09:39 PM)
I think my plextor (yet not pro) can't beat samsung 840pro but very satisfied with it.. I use ramdisk to avoid unnecessary read and write on ssd..
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QUOTE(deadmeat2012 @ Aug 1 2013, 01:05 AM)
is ssd price increasing or decrease ?
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it will like ram, over time the same price will get you bigger and bigger ssd.. if you mean price to size ratio of course decreasing smile.gif
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Jul 31 2013, 09:02 PM)
Hehe.. make sure you aligned your ssd, that will give it max performance. The numbers doesn't mean anything as long as it is running its full potential while eliminating unnecessary writes -> longer life!

Usually higher speed comes with a price (for example overclocking runs hotter) but for ssd seems like speed and reliability is in the same direction..
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Align SSD? What's that? hmm.gif

Btw, I did do some SSD optimization steps from theSSDreview.com
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what is ramdisk?
it will like ram, over time the same price will get you bigger and bigger ssd.. if you mean price to size ratio of course decreasing smile.gif
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ok ty very much now i am just playing a waiting game XD
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 1 2013, 10:21 PM)
Align SSD? What's that? hmm.gif

Btw, I did do some SSD optimization steps from theSSDreview.com
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http://lifehacker.com/5837769/make-sure-yo...ive-performance
http://www.overclock.net/t/1226963/how-to-...-hdd-partitions


Summary below:

The traditional rotating disks are divided into physical sectors. The Windows operating systems and their components operate according to this sector logic. Despite the fact that SSDs store the data in a completely different way, they are still being treated with this sector logic.

The alignment of the SSD is required to assure that a logical sector starts exactly at the beginning of a physical page of the SSD. Without the alignment, the sector boundaries and the page boundaries will not match and sectors will span pages. That would require for a Windows write operation to clear two blocks in lieu of only one thus reducing the write speed by 50%.

Situation

If you install Windows7 on a brand new SSD, you need not make any special arrangements because the Windows7 installer will do the alignment for you. For Vista you are lucky because the start sector happens to match a SSD page. For XP the start sector is 126 which would be in the middle of a SSD page, thus a prior alignment is required.
A similar situation is present when you clone an existing OS (including Windows7) on a new SSD.



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ok ty very much now i am just playing a waiting game XD
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So from your explanation, can I assume that from Windows Vista and above, we do not need to worry about alignment any more for any new SSD during fresh installation, is that correct? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 2 2013, 09:55 AM)
So from your explanation, can I assume that from Windows Vista and above, we do not need to worry about alignment any more for any new SSD during fresh installation, is that correct? hmm.gif
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Yes. Windows7 and 8 will auto align the drive at the beginning of the installation.
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Jul 31 2013, 09:39 PM)
I think my plextor (yet not pro) can't beat samsung 840pro but very satisfied with it.. I use ramdisk to avoid unnecessary read and write on ssd..
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Reads do not harm SSD life, so this is not an issue.

Writes do exhaust an SSD's limited writes, so this is an issue. However, the probability of normal users exhausting their SSD's write lifespan approaches zero. You need to focus and work hard on destroying your SSD to successfully kill it through write exhaustion before your three year warranty is up. I don't worry about unnecessary writes.

QUOTE(iori57 @ Aug 2 2013, 07:47 AM)
A partition alignment expert already! thumbup.gif

Pro-tip: Partition alignment isn't only for SSDs! It also improves write performance by an average of about 5-10% on Advanced Format HDDs, which is roughly all HDDs since January 2011.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 2 2013, 08:55 AM)
So from your explanation, can I assume that from Windows Vista and above, we do not need to worry about alignment any more for any new SSD during fresh installation, is that correct? hmm.gif
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Only if "fresh installation" includes wiping the partitions or on unpartitioned SSDs/HDDs. Windows Vista and above only creates aligned partitions if there were no existing partitions. If there exists unaligned partitions, Windows Vista and above will keep these unaligned partitions.

For example, if you default install a Windows XP onto a HDD/SSD, that HDD/SSD's partitions will be unaligned. And then if you clean install Windows Vista/7/8/above on it with format, the partitions will still be unaligned; formatting only isn't enough. You need to delete all the old partitions and then create new ones to get aligned partitions.

Here is the proof.

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Default Windows XP installation. Unaligned.
(As a side note, it seems that Windows XP's "diskpart" doesn't report the offset correctly, which can lead to mistaken assumptions.)

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Default Windows 7 installation on the same disk. Format is used. Partitions not recreated. Unaligned.

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hi,i'm new ssd user here.Just bought plextor m5pro xtreme 128gb.
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is this result good??
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QUOTE(muhiann @ Aug 3 2013, 12:55 AM)
hi,i'm new ssd user here.Just bought plextor m5pro xtreme 128gb.
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is this result good??
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Install your mobo latest chipset driver! msachi is default AHCI driver from Microsoft, native AHCI driver will improve performance.

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 3 2013, 01:04 AM)
Install your mobo latest chipset driver! msachi is default AHCI driver from Microsoft, native AHCI driver will improve performance.
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i already install latest intel chipset driver download from intel website.how to make sure it use native ahci?
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i already install latest intel chipset driver download from intel website.how to make sure it use native ahci?
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May be you need to install iRST as well, if the mobo chipset driver already included the intel AHCI driver, the info on AS SSD benchmark will change from msachi to iastor.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 3 2013, 11:50 PM)
May be you need to install iRST as well, if the mobo chipset driver already included the intel AHCI driver, the info on AS SSD benchmark will change from msachi to iastor.
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I have done what you asked and I saw abit improvement. nod.gif
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so the result good enough?
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so the result good enough?
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Even on the MSAHCI, it was already good enough. It's practically impossible for an ordinary person to tell the difference between the two without the benchmarks giving out the performance numbers. But it is better now. smile.gif

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Hi all, I have a question about ssd. Let's say for a regular user,whose usage is just normal web surfing, some movie maybe, some uni work(word,ppt). Is ssd needed or worth it in this case aside from the fast boot time?

From what I know, ssd will decrease boot time and application loading time, but since I only use the browser, dont game at all... Is it still worth it to spend so much on an ssd?
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Hi all, I have a question about ssd. Let's say for a regular user,whose usage is just normal web surfing, some movie maybe, some uni work(word,ppt). Is ssd needed or worth it in this case aside from the fast boot time?

From what I know, ssd will decrease boot time and application loading time, but since I only use the browser, dont game at all... Is it still worth it to spend so much on an ssd?
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If you don't mind drinking a cup of coffee or tea while waiting for the whole system to be fully usable then SSD or not does not matter.
If your time is precious, multi-task and require instant loads of application then YES! SSD will worth your Time (money).
If you needs just faster Windows boot up, latest mainboard UEFI + Windows 8 already considered as the fastest boot up, SSD will double the speed and cut the time in half though. wink.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 4 2013, 02:26 PM)
If you don't mind drinking a cup of coffee or tea while waiting for the whole system to be fully usable then SSD or not does not matter.
If your time is precious, multi-task and require instant loads of application then YES! SSD will worth your Time (money).
If you needs just faster Windows boot up, latest mainboard UEFI + Windows 8 already considered as the fastest boot up, SSD will double the speed and cut the time in half though. wink.gif
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So if I mainly uses the browser(chrome) only, means theres not much increase in speed other than boot time?
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 04:23 PM)
So if I mainly uses the browser(chrome) only, means theres not much increase in speed other than boot time?
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if your computer already fast enough, it may be hard to tell the difference unless the program installation size is large(Adobe CS/photoshop/games/OS ect), or if you frequently save/read large files, then you may need SSD.

jsut buy the cheapest, rm300 something with SATA 6GB/s 128GB should be enough, i have 256GB SSD but only utilized half of it, even with 3 OS installed.
Just install the software you use very frequently on SSD, the rest goes to HDD.

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 4 2013, 04:51 PM)
if your computer already fast enough, it may be hard to tell the difference unless the program installation size is large(Adobe CS/photoshop/games/OS ect), or if you frequently save/read large files, then you may need SSD.

jsut buy the cheapest, rm300 something with SATA 6GB/s 128GB should be enough, i have 256GB SSD but only utilized half of it, even with 3 OS installed.
Just install the software you use very frequently on SSD, the rest goes to HDD.
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Thing is, its for my gf. But she dont game and she mostly just surf net on the comp. So, I've been wondering whether its worth it to spend extra for ssd or spend extra for a better laptop since im choosing a laptop for her..
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 04:58 PM)
Thing is, its for my gf. But she dont game and she mostly just surf net on the comp. So, I've been wondering whether its worth it to spend extra for ssd or spend extra for a better laptop since im choosing a laptop for her..
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Oh laptops, HDD are prone to damage if your laptop fall down/knocked if accidentally, SSD wont, basically SSD will reduce a lot of your headache after prolonged use, compare to HDD(file fragmentation/general slowness).
Or just buy the one with HDD with SSD cache if you can, turn of extra craps that runs on start up will help reduce boot time, and use hibernate, too.

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 4 2013, 05:09 PM)
Oh laptops, HDD are prone to damage of your laptop fall down/knocked if accidentally, SSD wont, basically SSD will reduce a lot of your headache after prolonged use, compare to HDD(file fragmentation/general slowness).
Or just buy the one with HDD with SSD cache if you can, turn of extra craps that runs on start up will help reduce boot time, and use hibernate, too.
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In other words, it doesnt really help much if its just normal web surfing?
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 04:58 PM)
Thing is, its for my gf. But she dont game and she mostly just surf net on the comp. So, I've been wondering whether its worth it to spend extra for ssd or spend extra for a better laptop since im choosing a laptop for her..
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If she's quite rough and no laptop cooler on her laptop then SSD will probably last longer for her and she'll feel very snappy without slowing down, but she'll ("probably") feels annoyed very easily if she does switch to normal PC with the "normal" HDD, believe me, the huge different is just too tempting shakehead.gif
But if you have limited budget, just take the normal Core i3 or equivalent then put some into SSD rather than Core i5 of which she'll never use it. wink.gif

Core i3 3xxxm
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DVD drive? (well, if she don't use it then can opt for very slim and light profile)
Integrated Intel GPU 3000

All of these should have a budget of around RM2000 and below (SSD included). nod.gif

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 05:11 PM)
In other words, it doesnt really help much if its just normal web surfing?
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nope, very unlikely, but just like i said, SSD wont be damaged by accidental knock or fall down.

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 4 2013, 05:11 PM)
If she's quite rough and no laptop cooler on her laptop then SSD will probably last longer for her and she'll feel very snappy without slowing down, but she'll ("probably") feels annoyed very easily if she does switch to normal PC with the "normal" HDD, believe me, the huge different is just too tempting  shakehead.gif
But if you have limited budget, just take the normal Core i3 or equivalent then put some into SSD rather than Core i5 of which she'll never use it. wink.gif

Core i3 3xxxm
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128/120GB SSD (swap with HDD then can use as external using USB adapter)
DVD drive? (well, if she don't use it then can opt for very slim and light profile)
Integrated Intel GPU 3000

All of these should have a budget of around RM2000 and below (SSD included). nod.gif
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Thats what I've been looking for, around 2k with ssd. Where is the speed bump which will be experienced when using ssd? opening files, boot up, and?
besides, she might want to do some little photoshop, so im considering getting an i5..

QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 4 2013, 05:14 PM)
nope, very unlikely, but just like i said, SSD wont be damaged by accidental knock or fall down.
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Apart from the fall damage which might occur to hdd and the faster boot up, not much advantage if her usage is only surfing? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 05:19 PM)
Thats what I've been looking for, around 2k with ssd. Where is the speed bump which will be experienced when using ssd? opening files, boot up, and?
besides, she might want to do some little photoshop, so im considering getting an i5..
Apart from the fall damage which might occur to hdd and the faster boot up, not much advantage if her usage is only surfing? hmm.gif
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Yup, i still can surf happily with my old dying core i5 460M laptop with slow HDD. tongue.gif
still cam play some light games without much problem.
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Hi there. Anyone here interested in getting a HDD caddy to put an extra hard drive on their laptop? smile.gif

I've got one to let go. do pm me for more info .smile.gif

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Just received my Plextor M5S 128GB from Hikari85, though a bit slow but still waiting for the caddy bay so I can slot the 1TB for the extra capacity to my new laptop... Yay! Yay! Yay! Can't wait to use my new laptop with SSD!
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 5 2013, 11:27 AM)
Just received my Plextor M5S 128GB from Hikari85, though a bit slow but still waiting for the caddy bay so I can slot the 1TB for the extra capacity to my new laptop... Yay! Yay! Yay! Can't wait to use my new laptop with SSD!
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congratz on ur purchase. Had upgraded to SSD for quite some time.
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Aug 5 2013, 12:15 PM)
congratz on ur purchase. Had upgraded to SSD for quite some time.
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The reason for my slow in adapting SSD is the price/capacity, now with the price drop, and the time to change to a faster laptop, I have good excuses to put SSD in my laptop. brows.gif
I don't think I can ever return to the HDD, well.. except for my desktop as it's still the old BIOS so it'll probably be another year or 2 before I switch my desktop to SSD (primary boot disk) as well, with UEFI the boot is even faster by hell lot. drool.gif
New laptop boot speed now with 1TB 5,400rpm HDD is less than 15 seconds to desktop, switch to SSD? shakehead.gif Unthinkable speed. brows.gif

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does anyone heave any idea where else can i get the samsung 840 pro from other than the person from garage sales?

i wondering since samsung 840 pro is so good, why isn't shops in lowyat stocking it? hmm.gif
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why bigger player like seagate and WD dont want to produce SSD in large volume? It will reduce the price.. or they want to concentrate on hybrid hdd..
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QUOTE(xain @ Aug 5 2013, 06:25 PM)
does anyone heave any idea where else can i get the samsung 840 pro from other than the person from garage sales?

i wondering since samsung 840 pro is so good, why isn't shops in lowyat stocking it?  hmm.gif
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Samsung 840 price still high..

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its not that high if you compare it to other brands. its nearly within range with other competitors.
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QUOTE(xain @ Aug 5 2013, 06:25 PM)
i wondering since samsung 840 pro is so good, why isn't shops in lowyat stocking it?  hmm.gif
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Business is always complicated regarding distributing/bringing in the products. Or maybe the price tag is too high for retail price and the risk will be high in case local market not get used to it.

QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Aug 5 2013, 07:03 PM)
why bigger player like seagate and WD dont want to produce SSD in large volume? It will reduce the price.. or they want to concentrate on hybrid hdd..
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Seagate do have SSD lineup, u can view it at the first page latest news section.
WD is on their way...
Everything is related to the cost bro, u need to test the market value and see how's the sale go on to decide massive production or not.
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based on my siggy...can i use ssd?

will my setup bottleneck the ssd?

any suggestion for model should i go?
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QUOTE(wansirpunk @ Aug 6 2013, 01:42 AM)
based on my siggy...can i use ssd?

will my setup bottleneck the ssd?

any suggestion for model should i go?
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U should look at hmwgbworld's siggy.. core2 duo also.. I think ur rig can use ssd.. Plextor for speed and money..

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 5 2013, 11:27 AM)
Just received my Plextor M5S 128GB from Hikari85, though a bit slow but still waiting for the caddy bay so I can slot the 1TB for the extra capacity to my new laptop... Yay! Yay! Yay! Can't wait to use my new laptop with SSD!
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Just wondering, any heat issue if using hdd caddy? Anyone with experience with it?
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QUOTE(xain @ Aug 5 2013, 06:25 PM)
does anyone heave any idea where else can i get the samsung 840 pro from other than the person from garage sales?

i wondering since samsung 840 pro is so good, why isn't shops in lowyat stocking it?  hmm.gif
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I am not sure why too. And I got mine from ebay u.s., adding shipment fee is around rm800

QUOTE(xain @ Aug 5 2013, 09:54 PM)
its not that high if you compare it to other brands. its nearly within range with other competitors.
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Yes, people will pay a bit more for its quality if it is advertised properly.

QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Aug 5 2013, 10:03 PM)
Business is always complicated regarding distributing/bringing in the products. Or maybe the price tag is too high for retail price and the risk will be high in case local market not get used to it.
Seagate do have SSD lineup, u can view it at the first page latest news section.
WD is on their way...
Everything is related to the cost bro, u need to test the market value and see how's the sale go on to decide massive production or not.
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The demand is quite crazy based on the only Samsung SSD seller's thread in garage sales lol.
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Aug 6 2013, 05:53 AM)
Just wondering, any heat issue if using hdd caddy? Anyone with experience with it?
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Wondering as well about that issue but the heck with it, since I'll be using it for data and the burden for it to seek & write will be less so probably it won't generate so much heat plus it's running on 5,400 rpm so the heat won't be too high. hmm.gif
My current laptop is using the good old Scorpio Black, darn hot and fast but after long years of torture it's facing the old age already... sweat.gif
Speaking of Seagate, his SSD are in the market very late and their pricing isn't so much of talk about, except in the enterprise arena, hope WDC will bring down the price even more (for normal consumer). icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 6 2013, 09:47 AM)
Wondering as well about that issue but the heck with it, since I'll be using it for data and the burden for it to seek & write will be less so probably it won't generate so much heat plus it's running on 5,400 rpm so the heat won't be too high. hmm.gif
My current laptop is using the good old Scorpio Black, darn hot and fast but after long years of torture it's facing the old age already...  sweat.gif
Speaking of Seagate, his SSD are in the market very late and their pricing isn't so much of talk about, except in the enterprise arena, hope WDC will bring down the price even more (for normal consumer). icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 5 2013, 01:22 PM)
The reason for my slow in adapting SSD is the price/capacity, now with the price drop, and the time to change to a faster laptop, I have good excuses to put SSD in my laptop. brows.gif
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You haven't experienced how poisonous SSDs are yet? blink.gif

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 5 2013, 01:22 PM)
except for my desktop as it's still the old BIOS so it'll probably be another year or 2 before I switch my desktop to SSD (primary boot disk) as well, with UEFI the boot is even faster by hell lot. drool.gif
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You really don't need to wait for a UEFI motherboard. UEFI only takes care of the pre-boot. SSD takes care of the boot and everything else afterwards. Take your SSD poison today!

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 5 2013, 01:22 PM)
New laptop boot speed now with 1TB 5,400rpm HDD is less than 15 seconds to desktop, switch to SSD? shakehead.gif Unthinkable speed. brows.gif
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From 15 seconds down to 0 seconds isn't as unthinkable as coming from > 1 minute down to 20+ seconds... hmm.gif

QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Aug 5 2013, 07:03 PM)
why bigger player like seagate and WD dont want to produce SSD in large volume? It will reduce the price.. or they want to concentrate on hybrid hdd..
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One, SSDs was a highly lucrative business, which is great for publicly-owned businesses driven by profits. Reducing the price, and thus the profits, will make their shareholders very unhappy. And unhappy shareholders can potentially destabilise their businesses.

Two, both Seagate and WD do not have the infrastructure required to build NAND chips, particularly chips in the 20nm or the 10nm range. They must buy their NAND chips from NAND manufacturers. And there are limited NAND manufacturers in the world, who are already selling everything they can make.

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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 6 2013, 02:34 PM)
You haven't experienced how poisonous SSDs are yet? blink.gif
You really don't need to wait for a UEFI motherboard. UEFI only takes care of the pre-boot. SSD takes care of the boot and everything else afterwards. Take your SSD poison today!
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I already has my SSD, just waiting to be installed to my laptop and never turn back, brows.gif now just waiting for the caddy bay to arrive... kinda slow sad.gif
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QUOTE(wansirpunk @ Aug 6 2013, 01:42 AM)
based on my siggy...can i use ssd?

will my setup bottleneck the ssd?

any suggestion for model should i go?
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Why not??
Regardless of your platform,you will feel significant speed boost
Been using LGA775 with SSD for 1 year +
You can use SATA 6 SSD on SATA 3 port with no issue at all brows.gif
Just grab it,you will feel like just injected new life onto your pc
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New RRAM memory promises a terabyte of storage on a stamp-sized chip
Californian start-up Crossbar unveiled new chip twenty times faster than previous flash storage

Californian-based start-up has announced a new memory chip for next-generation electronics. Crossbar’s Resistive RAM (RRAM) is capable of storing a terabyte of data (equivalent to 250 high-definition movies) on a chip the size of a postage stamp.

RRAM is a new type of non-volatile memory (meaning it stores data even when it’s not being powered) that is twenty times faster than the fastest current flash memory. Crossbars says that it can write data to its chips at 140 megabytes a second, compared to 7 megabytes a second for flash.

“Non-volatile memory is ubiquitous today, as the storage technology at the heart of the over a trillion dollar electronics market – from tablets and USB sticks to enterprise storage systems,” said chief executive officer George Minassian in an official statement.

“With our working Crossbar array, we have achieved all the major technical milestones that prove our RRAM technology is easy to manufacture and ready for commercialization.”

Crossbar’s confidence in its product has so far been matched by investors, with the company raising $25 million in venture capital. These backers include the prestigious Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, who invested heavily in both Google and Amazon before the companies became multi-billion success stories.

The company plans to create its own chips and sell them to the market but will also licence its technology to other vendors. Although it will take a lot of momentum to replace the current flash memory standards, the chips would offer significant increases in memory – putting terabytes of storage on smartphones and tablets.

The new RRAM technology could also prove useful for power the internet of things and wearable technology, as it uses twenty times less power and has ten times the endurance of current NAND flash chips. This would make for devices that lasted longer without a breakdown in memory and that wouldn’t require constant charging

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Is the difference in speed between a Plextor M5S and a Samsung 840 PRO noticeable?

Stuck between a 128gb plextor M5S or 256 GB 840 PRO (due to stock shortage).

Do you guys use up 128gb easily?
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Is the difference in speed between a Plextor M5S and a Samsung 840 PRO noticeable?

Stuck between a 128gb plextor M5S or 256 GB 840 PRO (due to stock shortage).

Do you guys use up 128gb easily?
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Not really noticable unless you have two SSD side by side and doing comparison. normal user should not worry bout the performance anyway.

no, if you only install OS on SSD, W8 on 64GB SSD is more than enough. non essential file such as movie/pcitures/music should be stored on HDD.

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TS, update me in the owner list. Plextor M5S 128GB.
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It depends, personally I used up quite easily as I'm not only install massive programs (each took at least 3gb), but also put some games on it.
It is always better to leave 50% free space to ensure the speed wont be reduced.
**If used up more than 50% also dun worry, u will notice very slightly reduction on boot up, like 1~2 sec max only iinm.
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Thanks for your replies!

Is the samsung magician software that good for maintaining the SSD?

I've seen numerous problems maintaining and installing windows on other SSDs, and trouble in updating firmwares, but those can be easily done with Magician.

New user of SSD here, I wish to have zero hassles yawn.gif


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So far magician is best of all that I have seen. The migration software can even clone OS from different disk array with no hicups to SSD.

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Is the difference in speed between a Plextor M5S and a Samsung 840 PRO noticeable?

Stuck between a 128gb plextor M5S or 256 GB 840 PRO (due to stock shortage).

Do you guys use up 128gb easily?
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Still have 128 here
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Just wondering.... Has anyone tried to mod their SSD such as to coat it wit carbon fiber? LOL.

Instead of this...
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We coat SSD... Just thought.. Would be awesome.

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QUOTE(abidgreen93 @ Aug 8 2013, 07:19 AM)
Just wondering.... Has anyone tried to mod their SSD such as to coat it wit carbon fiber? LOL.

Instead of this...
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We coat SSD... Just thought.. Would be awesome.
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That is just apply a layer of sticker. Nothing special
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That is just apply a layer of sticker. Nothing special
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Vinyl carbon fibre sticker

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btw, if apply carbonfibre sticker, it wont be difficult. i think garaje sale got people do selling that sticker
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http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Windows-Comp...Start-up-Faster
advanced method would be enable EFI boot instead of legacy ROM mode, but i personally never tried it before.
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Tutorial are everywhere sweat.gif
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Windows-Comp...Start-up-Faster
advanced method would be enable EFI boot instead of legacy ROM mode, but i personally never tried it before.
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I have find quite a few. But some how it doesn't work. Some put my pc does not reach requirement.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1240779/seans-w...e-for-ssds-hdds

Try this bro...

My system boots up for less than 6 seconds..
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucia...b-ssd,3551.html

nice review on Crucial M500, talking about the extra feature it sport (vs the old m4).
Also has a show down with Samsung 840 Evo.

Can't wait for the day when I can afford to replace my whole NAS with arrays of 1TB SSD laugh.gif Price drop quick quick rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Aug 10 2013, 03:32 PM)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucia...b-ssd,3551.html

nice review on Crucial M500, talking about the extra feature it sport (vs the old m4).
Also has a show down with Samsung 840 Evo.

Can't wait for the day when I can afford to replace my whole NAS with arrays of 1TB SSD laugh.gif Price drop quick quick rclxms.gif
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That is very expensive pay off, since 1TB each cost around 2k.
RM2000 can ady get at least 4x 3TB NAS drives biggrin.gif .
At the moment of waiting price drops, there's already new pcie ssd with more speed cool2.gif .
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my windows 7 need 20 seconds to boot up with Plextor M5S, how to configure it to make it faster? already removed some startup programmes

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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Aug 11 2013, 01:44 AM)
my windows 7 need 20 seconds to boot up with Plextor M5S, how to configure it to make it faster? already removed some startup programmes
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Please find the optimization guide at the first page, follow it and it should improve your boot up time by a few.
Please Note Windows 7 does has slower boot up compare to Windows 8, and Windows 7 itself is not optimize for SSD as yet, Windows 8 is designed to optimize for SSD.

And here's my SSD result after a struggling days of installing Windows 8.
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Where do you guys go to buy your SSDs?

I'm looking for the Samsung 840 or Samsung 840 PRO cause I heard they're the most reliable. If you got any other recommendations, I would appreciate it.
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Hmm.. Consider standard? hmm.gif

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Going to buy ssd soon. Should I buy here or buy at shop? Does shop offer installation? Can anyone suggest me a ssd around 120GB with budget less then RM350? Thanks.
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What do you mean by installation?

And you can get plextor M5S 128GB for definitely less than 350...

Try PM ideal tech. smile.gif
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What do you mean by installation?

And you can get plextor M5S 128GB for definitely less than 350...

Try PM ideal tech. smile.gif
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Taking out my hdd and putting in the new ssd.

Thanks!
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Taking out my hdd and putting in the new ssd.

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Owh... You should be able to DIY it.. smile.gif
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Alright then.
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Don't ask shop to DIY as they'll probably mark you as non-warranty, simply modify manufacturer configuration may just void your warranty, but if you know how to put it back properly when you RMA then it should be fine I guess. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 14 2013, 08:17 AM)
Don't ask shop to DIY as they'll probably mark you as non-warranty, simply modify manufacturer configuration may just void your warranty, but if you know how to put it back properly when you RMA then it should be fine I guess. hmm.gif
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Well, I prefer to do it myself unless the shop is an expert coz, this is my laptop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8wWVzSjaOk

Edit: My laptop's warranty has expired. So maybe I can experiment my laptop.

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Alright, just jump into this thread and check out what is SSD, so which is and where to find best budget SSD? is the price going to drop soon enough?
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price is steadily going down base on size pattern from what i see.. in 2011 price for 60gb going down fast,2012 price for 120gb going down fast, this year 256gb going down fast..maybe bcoz SSD adaptability for common user has been increase along with the size factor..just pick what secure u the best warranty and after sales support.. the speed for common user doesn't differ much in real life usage.. at first i really check how many second faster boot up speed between various controller in the end i just want SSD that reliable as 2-5 second faster feel almost no different.. jst my 2 cents
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Weird is the SSD is not common use in laptop, most of the laptop still using 5400rpm HDD. Only Asus commonly use HDD+SSD hybrid in their Vivobook series.
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Weird is the SSD is not common use in laptop, most of the laptop still using 5400rpm HDD. Only Asus commonly use HDD+SSD hybrid in their Vivobook series.
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Mine doesn't look fast at all especially the write speed cry.gif
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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Aug 11 2013, 01:44 AM)
my windows 7 need 20 seconds to boot up with Plextor M5S, how to configure it to make it faster? already removed some startup programmes
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Mine took around 12-15 secs for my laptop in the sig.
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Mine doesn't look fast at all especially the write speed cry.gif
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Nah, your 4K write is much important, and it's ridiculously high. shocking.gif
Looking at mine... cry.gif so much slower after installing drivers. yawn.gif
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Anyone got experience with sandisk ultra plus ssd? How is it compare to plextor and corsair?
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i am a owner of intel 320 ssd^^ i like it very much^^intel 320 160gb ..
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Mushkin to Showcase Scorpion Deluxe SSD and Ventura Ultra 3.0 at Flash Summit

Mushkin, Inc., an industry leading designer and manufacturer of high performance and mission critical computer products, has announced the company will be at the 2013 Flash Summit. The leading performance solutions manufacturer will be present at the AVANT Technologies booth and will be showing off the Scorpion Deluxe and Ventura Ultra for the first time.

"Participating in the Flash Summit is a great opportunity for us to show just what we are getting ready to release and how we continue to innovate. We are confident in the Scorpion Deluxe and Ventura Ultra, and there is no better way to express that than to display just how fast and powerful they are," said Nicolas Villalobos, Director of Global Marketing at Mushkin, Inc.

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Mushkin will -- at the 2013 Flash Summit -- show off the final production units of the Scorpion Deluxe PCIe SSD and Ventura Ultra USB 3.0 flash drive for the first time. The Scorpion Deluxe PCIe SSD is a powerfully fast PCI Express solid-state drive that reach 2165 MB/s read and 1990 MB/s write. The Scorpion boasts 100,000 4K read IOPS and will begin hauling out production units available everywhere along end-August. Mushkin's Ventura Ultra 240 GB USB 3.0 is the world's fastest flash drive with a 455 MB/s read and 445 MB/s write rate and will be available towards the end of August.

"We're bringing out products that will really change the nature of the game. They will be among the fastest products available for professionals, gamers, innovators and creative producers," said Brian Flood, Director Product Management at Mushkin, Inc.

In addition to showing off product performance and capabilities, Mushkin will raffle out a brand new Scorpion Deluxe PCIe SSD and Ventura Ultra USB 3.0 flash drive to two lucky winners.

Source : http://www.techpowerup.com/188943/mushkin-...-ventura-ultra-
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i Know SSD IS good. but i dont know hat happen with my laptop y500, only use 1months, with SSD very very slow. first i think problem with HDD Sata i change, but same problem.
after that i remove ssd. and it will be ok.

why SSD got problem any body know.
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i Know SSD IS good. but i dont know hat happen with my laptop y500, only use 1months, with SSD very very slow. first i think problem with HDD Sata i change, but same problem.
after that i remove ssd. and it will be ok.

why SSD got problem any body know.
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Have you enabled TRIM? Refer to first page "SSD Optimization" and see if yours is already optimized.
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can anyone tell me what is the use of installing the driver to ssd? currently im using ssd 160gb intel 320 series.. the driver i installed is intel ssd toolbox, it got ask me to upgrade something but after upgrade i dont see any different, so can i ask what is the different i install driver and without install driver into my pc?
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 15 2013, 02:59 PM)
Have you enabled TRIM? Refer to first page "SSD Optimization" and see if yours is already optimized.
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TRIM I dont know? how to enable.
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QUOTE(jrshow @ Aug 15 2013, 03:03 PM)
can anyone tell me what is the use of installing the driver to ssd? currently im using ssd 160gb intel 320 series.. the driver i installed is intel ssd toolbox, it got ask me to upgrade something but after upgrade i dont see any different, so can i ask what is the different i install driver and without install driver into my pc?
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TRIM I dont know? how to enable.
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Please refer to first page for all the info and instruction on how to optimize your SSD for performance and lifespan improvement. It's all there, just need to take your time to read.
After all the optimization, post your AS SSD benchmark result, from there we can help you much better.

Note: Don't expect Windows Vista and below to perform par with Windows 7 and above (especially 8) and also note the combination of hardware used aside from the generation gap of SSD.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 15 2013, 04:23 PM)
Please refer to first page for all the info and instruction on how to optimize your SSD for performance and lifespan improvement. It's all there, just need to take your time to read.
After all the optimization, post your AS SSD benchmark result, from there we can help you much better.

Note: Don't expect Windows Vista and below to perform par with Windows 7 and above (especially 8) and also note the combination of hardware used aside from the generation gap of SSD.
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i alr read through the first page n know what is the use of the driver alr..thxs for the infor..btw how i get my ssd bencemark?
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i alr read through the first page n know what is the use of the driver alr..thxs for the infor..btw how i get my ssd bencemark?
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What would be the best SSD at a RM550 price range?

By "best" I mean lowest latency, long-lasting (doing more writes) and reliable (less likely to die for no reason)

I would say lowest latency being the most important part because I don't plan on transfering large files to the drive often

Currently in the market would be the Samsung 840?
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Hi guys,

Finally got the courage to jump ship to ssd over the ever-reliable hd.

I just thought, maybe less is more.

For a first-timer, any good models for entry-level ssd? maybe 120gb? roughly around 200-300 price range?

Thanks!
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Plextor M5S 128GB user here.
My MSI mobo (POST) take atleast 3 sec to boot to SSD. Anyway to disable it?

H67MA-E35

I'm using ASUS mobo before this. But got problem with SATA3 port. Sometime BIOS can't detect my SSD demn sad.gif
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QUOTE(stereokumonomu @ Aug 16 2013, 11:09 PM)
Hi guys,

Finally got the courage to jump ship to ssd over the ever-reliable hd.

I just thought, maybe less is more.

For a first-timer, any good models for entry-level ssd? maybe 120gb? roughly around 200-300 price range?

Thanks!
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Cheapest would be Plextor M5S 128GB around RM290?
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hey guys, been having a hard time deciding which SSD would be better, by first impression i would like to go for the plextor m5s 128gb, due to it's cheaper price (RM309 from zhen^wei). but my friend did suggested me to consider the sandisk 128gb (RM325) as well. based on write speed sandisk would be slightly better and also the brand is more widely known. can you guys suggest which is better? which might serve me for a longer period of time? budget wise is around RM300+. thanks!

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QUOTE(ronaldlim91 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:27 PM)
hey guys, been having a hard time deciding which SSD would be better, by first impression i would like to go for the plextor m5s 128gb, due to it's cheaper price (RM299 from zhen^wei). but my friend did suggested me to consider the sandisk 128gb (RM325) as well. based on write speed sandisk would be slightly better and also the brand is more widely known. can you guys suggest which is better? which might serve me for a longer period of time? budget wise is around RM300+. thanks!
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Always remember this: Many of the SSD maker uses ATTO benchmark result to advertise their read/write speed, by default ATTO use compressible algorithm benchmarking, which is why it looks good. if they use AS SSD as result the write speed will drop a lot tongue.gif
SanDisk SSD got 2 type, older one are SandForce Driven, the newer Ultra Plus is using Marvel Controller.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6553/sandisk...sd-review-256gb

Btw SandDisk SSD is always an average performer sweat.gif
can consider Samsung/intel/plextor too
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QUOTE(ronaldlim91 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:27 PM)
hey guys, been having a hard time deciding which SSD would be better, by first impression i would like to go for the plextor m5s 128gb, due to it's cheaper price (RM309 from zhen^wei). but my friend did suggested me to consider the sandisk 128gb (RM325) as well. based on write speed sandisk would be slightly better and also the brand is more widely known. can you guys suggest which is better? which might serve me for a longer period of time? budget wise is around RM300+. thanks!
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The advertised speed is sequential (compressible) read/write speed which only less than 0.1% used daily, the only thing you should focus on is the 4K read/write, this is the only thing that affect your daily usage (bootup, running applications, background process, browsing, etc.)
Therefore, look at the review before you start pulling your wallet. But for most cases any SSD should provide you the heavenly speed over normal HDD and that's for sure, the rest is your wallet capabilities... brows.gif
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Hi ssd sifu,

may I know whether Plextor M5S 128GB can be fit into lenovo y510p with the potential fully used? (i mean full speed after install all those drivers, not hardware limited)
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QUOTE(Vcys86 @ Aug 20 2013, 08:13 PM)
Hi ssd sifu,

may I know whether Plextor M5S 128GB can be fit into lenovo y510p with the potential fully used? (i mean full speed after install all those drivers, not hardware limited)
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What's the exact model that you want or have? Because on certain model there's mSATA option, or you just want to turn the HDD into SSD and don't mind the HDD space. hmm.gif
I did modify mine (Lenovo G400S) HDD to optical drive slot using a caddy bay so I can have both SSD speed and HDD space at the same time. cool2.gif

Well for you info, almost any laptop has no problem installing SSD, for that model, it's capable of 9.5mm HDD so Plextor M5S 128GB is no problem at all. Potential? That'll depends on the optimization that you may done, also the OS that you going to install. ("I" recommend Windows 8 brows.gif )
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 21 2013, 09:29 AM)
What's the exact model that you want or have? Because on certain model there's mSATA option, or you just want to turn the HDD into SSD and don't mind the HDD space. hmm.gif
I did modify mine (Lenovo G400S) HDD to optical drive slot using a caddy bay so I can have both SSD speed and HDD space at the same time. cool2.gif

Well for you info, almost any laptop has no problem installing SSD, for that model, it's capable of 9.5mm HDD so Plextor M5S 128GB is no problem at all. Potential? That'll depends on the optimization that you may done, also the OS that you going to install. ("I" recommend Windows 8 brows.gif )
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I am planning to get the model without the SSD.
My plan is to move the existing HDD to the dockable dvd drive then install the new Plextor M5S 128GB into the current HDD slot. This need the caddy bay right?

What I mean from potential is that, there is no hardware limitation like bottleneck on certain transmit medium like SATA, etc...right?
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QUOTE(Vcys86 @ Aug 21 2013, 10:07 AM)
I am planning to get the model without the SSD.
My plan is to move the existing HDD to the dockable dvd drive then install the new Plextor M5S 128GB into the current HDD slot. This need the caddy bay right?

What I mean from potential is that, there is no hardware limitation like bottleneck on certain transmit medium like SATA, etc...right?
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Yes, U'll need a caddy to hold the hard disk firm.
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what is the cheapest 128GB SSD comes with 5yr warranty?
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Yes, U'll need a caddy to hold the hard disk firm.
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there is no hardware limitation like bottleneck on certain transmit medium like SATA, etc that will hold back the ssd to reaching the maximum speed right?
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QUOTE(Vcys86 @ Aug 21 2013, 10:52 AM)
there is no hardware limitation like bottleneck on certain transmit medium like SATA, etc that will hold back the ssd to reaching the maximum speed right?
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New laptop already has the SATA3 (6Gbps).
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Aug 21 2013, 10:49 AM)
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I can only think of Plextor M5 Pro 128GB, RM444. Intel 520 Series 120GB at RM439 also can consider if you still can find it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Aug 21 2013, 11:17 AM)
I can only think of Plextor M5 Pro 128GB, RM444. Intel 520 Series 120GB at RM439 also can consider if you still can find it. smile.gif
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is it worth the price (rm130++ upside as compare to m5s) for the additional 2yr warranty? what do u think hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 21 2013, 09:29 AM)
What's the exact model that you want or have? Because on certain model there's mSATA option, or you just want to turn the HDD into SSD and don't mind the HDD space. hmm.gif
I did modify mine (Lenovo G400S) HDD to optical drive slot using a caddy bay so I can have both SSD speed and HDD space at the same time. cool2.gif

Well for you info, almost any laptop has no problem installing SSD, for that model, it's capable of 9.5mm HDD so Plextor M5S 128GB is no problem at all. Potential? That'll depends on the optimization that you may done, also the OS that you going to install. ("I" recommend Windows 8 brows.gif )
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Did u experience any heat issue while using Hdd caddy bay? I want to add one..
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Aug 21 2013, 11:36 AM)
is it worth the price (rm130++ upside as compare to m5s) for the additional 2yr warranty? what do u think hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Aug 22 2013, 10:31 AM)
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I think most likely is Plextor. Can try searching in Garage Sales. If not mistaken, 128GB M5S is selling for around RM300+-
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QUOTE(Aura @ Aug 22 2013, 10:46 AM)
I think most likely is Plextor. Can try searching in Garage Sales. If not mistaken, 128GB M5S is selling for around RM300+-
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Oic.ok thanks man.
BTW heard Kingston one? Cause new also selling around 200 can get.But i doubt the performance.
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Oic.ok thanks man.
BTW heard Kingston one? Cause new also selling around 200 can get.But i doubt the performance.
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is it worth the price (rm130++ upside as compare to m5s) for the additional 2yr warranty? what do u think hmm.gif
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For me, it is not worth the extra two years, especially with how quickly SSDs depreciate in market value.

I bought a cheap 128GB SSD three years ago (RM900~) and I'm glad I didn't buy a more expensive one, compared to today's prices.
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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 22 2013, 12:28 PM)
For me, it is not worth the extra two years, especially with how quickly SSDs depreciate in market value.

I bought a cheap 128GB SSD three years ago (RM900~) and I'm glad I didn't buy a more expensive one, compared to today's prices.
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yup, i think i will go to the cheapest one with decent performance, furthermore the bad block won't spread like a plague comparing to hdd bad sector, so i think warranty is not much of concern here, am i rite?
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Aug 21 2013, 12:17 PM)
Did u experience any heat issue while using Hdd caddy bay? I want to add one..
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For my laptop the heat isn't an issue, for the original HDD isn't really generating much heat and I think the space between caddy bay a the space at the keyboard is fair and there's some room for the air to move through, I'm using notebook cooler to cool it down. Rather the RAM is heating up at the left side of my palm rest so I don't really rest my palm on too long when typing.

For those wondering about warranty, you can buy the bigger size at the very same price 3 years later so not much use of warranty unless you're in the IT professional field where longevity is a long term consideration. nod.gif
Also those higher end unit has better IO and performance, so it's actually up to your wallet in the end. brows.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 21 2013, 02:06 PM)
Any Crucial M500 user here? hmm.gif

Wanna ask how do you all find the SSD's performance
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Here's mine
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3581813

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Just got my Plextor M5pro 128, do I actually need to install stuff like Plextools?

What do they actually do?
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Aug 22 2013, 06:47 PM)
read speed is decent, but write is... hmm.gif

120GB version?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 22 2013, 11:48 PM)
read speed is decent, but write is... hmm.gif

120GB version?
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yes 120GB only, the higher the capacity the faster the write speed. However as some mentioned 4K writes is much important which I have no clue at all which is which are more important sweat.gif

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Aug 23 2013, 12:59 AM)
yes 120GB only, the higher the capacity the faster the write speed. However as some mentioned 4K writes is much important which I have no clue at all which is which are more important sweat.gif
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ive no idea as well in picking SSDs

ive read their review by Anand and TomsHardware

seeing from benchmark, it isnt really the fastest nor the cheapest

but it does come with extra features that they didnt go deep into doh.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 23 2013, 01:44 AM)
ive no idea as well in picking SSDs

ive read their review by Anand and TomsHardware

seeing from benchmark, it isnt really the fastest nor the cheapest

but it does come with extra features that they didnt go deep into doh.gif
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Sequential Read/Write only important for those doing transcoding videos in massive amounts, other than that, 4K is for daily usage where smaller files Read/Write is much frequent than you reading couple hundreds of MBs.
The higher capacity provide better speed but that's all depends on each person wallet as well, if you can afford those high-end units, then you can enjoy those freaking high speed, but in the end, 4K read/write and access time is utmost important in any situation, be it massive workload, or daily usage.
Anyway, those doing massive transcoding will use RAID0 to compensate the sequential read/write speed, this is where normal users (over 95%) does not really needs.
I'm darn happy already after 2 weeks with my new SSD+HDD, no need to head for tea when booting up my laptop, no need to sweat while turning off my laptop, just click Shut down, close the lid, pack everything up, it's just that fast. cool2.gif Oh... few more, loading apps is just... so fast that I'm tapping the table using other users laptop. (Waiting can be frustrating... sweat.gif doh.gif )
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consumer grade ssd's are good enough to help you in many ways for common usage. it's really not necessary to go for enthusiast grade unless you really need it, or you have some extras.

as for the capacity, make some justifications of your system usage. the simpler way is to base on OS and apps (i.ee. OS, common software, and games that you play most). the rest goto storage hdd (internal or external).
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any fight for other same brand and spec msata samsung pm830 ssd 32gb guys?

is this reading good? setup as storage in lenovo y500 sli laptop

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 23 2013, 10:08 AM)
Sequential Read/Write only important for those doing transcoding videos in massive amounts, other than that, 4K is for daily usage where smaller files Read/Write is much frequent than you reading couple hundreds of MBs.
The higher capacity provide better speed but that's all depends on each person wallet as well, if you can afford those high-end units, then you can enjoy those freaking high speed, but in the end, 4K read/write and access time is utmost important in any situation, be it massive workload, or daily usage.
Anyway, those doing massive transcoding will use RAID0 to compensate the sequential read/write speed, this is where normal users (over 95%) does not really needs.
I'm darn happy already after 2 weeks with my new SSD+HDD, no need to head for tea when booting up my laptop, no need to sweat while turning off my laptop, just click Shut down, close the lid, pack everything up, it's just that fast. cool2.gif Oh... few more, loading apps is just... so fast that I'm tapping the table using other users laptop. (Waiting can be frustrating... sweat.gif  doh.gif )
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Thanks for the info thumbup.gif

Im pretty interested in getting a 256 or 512GB SSD.. Make it somewhat like a gaming/OS/always being used programs. But the price sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 23 2013, 10:08 AM)
Sequential Read/Write only important for those doing transcoding videos in massive amounts, other than that, 4K is for daily usage where smaller files Read/Write is much frequent than you reading couple hundreds of MBs.
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When talking about transcoding videos, if they're Blu-ray sources, they only need about 4.5 MB/s transfer rate for real-time transcoding. HDDs will perform fine for such work, even if your CPU is good for 10x real-time transcoding (~45 MB/s).

To actually push the limits using only video transcoding, you're talking about applications that 99.99% of consumers probably won't ever encounter. Like YouTube's server farms.
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Aug 23 2013, 05:56 PM)
any fight for other same brand and spec msata samsung pm830 ssd 32gb guys?

is this reading good? setup as storage in lenovo y500 sli laptop

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Compared to ordinary 2.5" SSDs, that reading is poor.
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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 23 2013, 10:58 PM)
Compared to ordinary 2.5" SSDs, that reading is poor.
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not worth to compare with the REAL SSD man, I do and hav plextor m5s 128gb and knew its not comparable apple to apple with msata!

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how about msata vs msata the real question was?

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Aug 23 2013, 05:56 PM)
any fight for other same brand and spec msata samsung pm830 ssd 32gb guys?

is this reading good? setup as storage in lenovo y500 sli laptop

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This reading just like my 60gig intel 330..

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Aug 24 2013, 01:33 PM)
This reading just like my 60gig intel 330..
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Maybe Crucial M500 480gb RM1249 and Seagate 600 Series 480gb RM1259.
Price from Viewnet.
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Maybe Crucial M500 480gb RM1249 and Seagate 600 Series 480gb RM1259.
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i want to change into ssd for my dell 14r SE laptop. Is it possible to change into ssd with this laptop?

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sifu pls answer me

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If yes what ssd is compatible? if possible ssd with automatic backup software to backup and transfer files from my current harddisk to the new ssd
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1. afaik mSata SSD works
2. use your desktop PC to do ghosting to transfer then put on laptop
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I am going to buy a gaming notebook msi Gs70 and upgrade the following option

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I am going to buy a gaming notebook msi Gs70 and upgrade the following option
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For me I would choose single SSD, replace the original HDD so you won't feels the HDD heat coming from the top of your keyboard space.
As for the mSATA, it has RAID, you can use it for mSATA RAID SSD but you probably won't notice the difference of single vs RAID0 performance so it's up to you if you wallet can afford.

Or... just buy both options and become SSD King. brows.gif
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hi there. planning to get a ssd to replace my primary hdd in my laptop (have a secondary in my dvd-rom drive). been considering these so any advice is very much appreciated (reliability, lifespan, speed etc..) on which to get.

1. Samsung 840 Evo 120gb
2. Corsair Force GS 128gb
3. Plextor M5P 128gb
4. Crucial M500

Thanks!!!

ps: are any of the listed above in 1.8 inch in size?

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 28 2013, 01:59 PM)
For me I would choose single SSD, replace the original HDD so you won't feels the HDD heat coming from the top of your keyboard space.
As for the mSATA, it has RAID, you can use it for mSATA RAID SSD but you probably won't notice the difference of single vs RAID0 performance so it's up to you if you wallet can afford.

Or... just buy both options and become SSD King. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ipohzeng @ Aug 28 2013, 08:49 PM)
hi there. planning to get a ssd to replace my primary hdd in my laptop (have a secondary in my dvd-rom drive). been considering these so any advice is very much appreciated (reliability, lifespan, speed etc..) on which to get.

1.  Samsung 840 Evo 120gb
2.  Corsair Force GS 128gb
3.  Plextor M5P 128gb
4.  Crucial M500

Thanks!!!

ps: are any of the listed above in 1.8 inch in size?
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All listed are 2.5" SSD, very hard to find 1.8".
You can try your luck at garage by searching "1.8 ssd", the only 1.8" SSD I found is Intel X18, pretty old model.
As for reliability, Intel is known for it but lifespan wise will vary from luck and usage, speed wise Samsung and Crucial could top the chart right now, but most of it is 2.5" size SSD.
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Plextor M5s 128gb good? or should i top up abit go to other brand l;ike crucial??
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 29 2013, 08:19 AM)
All listed are 2.5" SSD, very hard to find 1.8".
You can try your luck at garage by searching "1.8 ssd", the only 1.8" SSD I found is Intel X18, pretty old model.
As for reliability, Intel is known for it but lifespan wise will vary from luck and usage, speed wise Samsung and Crucial could top the chart right now, but most of it is 2.5" size SSD.
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QUOTE(Randylee @ Aug 29 2013, 12:10 PM)
Plextor M5s 128gb good? or should i top up abit go to other brand l;ike crucial??
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Yes for its price, value for every performance that you'll get from it.
If you need just that little extra performance then go for the latest Crucial, very fast, price also very "fast" brows.gif

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If compare with m5? if m5 better, i only need top up rm35
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QUOTE(Randylee @ Aug 29 2013, 01:30 PM)
If compare with m5? if m5 better, i only need top up rm35
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Just get any SSD that suits your budget will do, the only differences probably only up to 2~5 seconds different, or maybe you won't even feel it cause you won't even have time to pick up your cup of coffee after you turn your PC on and it's already at the desktop. brows.gif
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Wanna ask a bit.

For SSD which method can prolong the SSD lifespan? Create 2 partition or just 1 partition for all?

Example:
I buy Plextor M5S 128GB.

1. I create 90GB partition just for Windows and 38GB partiton for stuff and downloading (only direct download not torrent).

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2. Just 128GB single partition for all


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I need some serious help guys..

I have a SSD and i intend to install win8 on it. My HDD have win7 in it.

My question is: How should i do it?
Previously someone told me that I can just fresh install win8 on ssd, then I can boot into ssd and get my files from hdd. I can choose to delete the os on the hdd if i want to, is that true?
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If compare with m5? if m5 better, i only need top up rm35
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Wanna ask a bit.

For SSD which method can prolong the SSD lifespan? Create 2 partition or just 1 partition for all?

Example:
I buy Plextor M5S 128GB.

1. I create 90GB partition just for Windows and 38GB partiton for stuff and downloading (only direct download not torrent).

or

2. Just 128GB single partition for all
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Don't think create partition will do any wear down harm, I did mine like 60/59 (119GB formatted) to keep my other portable programs + documents in another drive for easy OS re-installation.

Just wonder if create partition will actually impact the overall performance, that's the real question here, hope some sifu here can answer this, doing this myself is kind of time consuming.

QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 29 2013, 08:28 PM)
I need some serious help guys..

I have a SSD and i intend to install win8 on it. My HDD have win7 in it.

My question is: How should i do it?
Previously someone told me that I can just fresh install win8 on ssd, then I can boot into ssd and get my files from hdd. I can choose to delete the os on the hdd if i want to, is that true?
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Yes, you can do that if you want to, you can retrieve your data from the other HDD after you have installed your Windows 8 but beware that sometimes Windows may detect another active drive (boot partition/volume) at your other HDD if connected on the same board (SATA) and it may just add up to your boot up list.
Anyway, you just need to install Windows 8 using just the SSD along to prevent something like above happen then plug-in your HDD into your system after you have installed the OS, not sure if it'll still detect the active partition or not but worth a try whistling.gif
After that, well, just continue copy data from that HDD, wipe the HDD clean then re-format and use it as normal HDD. wink.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 30 2013, 01:10 PM)
Yes, you can do that if you want to, you can retrieve your data from the other HDD after you have installed your Windows 8 but beware that sometimes Windows may detect another active drive (boot partition/volume) at your other HDD if connected on the same board (SATA) and it may just add up to your boot up list.
Anyway, you just need to install Windows 8 using just the SSD along to prevent something like above happen then plug-in your HDD into your system after you have installed the OS, not sure if it'll still detect the active partition or not but worth a try whistling.gif
After that, well, just continue copy data from that HDD, wipe the HDD clean then re-format and use it as normal HDD. wink.gif
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now i have to reinstall all my programs and drivers on my win8. any tips how to reinstall the drivers automatically? or do i have to download and install it one by one? hmm.gif
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Any choice in market right now?

Planning using for cache drive in my Y410P
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 30 2013, 01:10 PM)
Don't think create partition will do any wear down harm, I did mine like 60/59 (119GB formatted) to keep my other portable programs + documents in another drive for easy OS re-installation.

Just wonder if create partition will actually impact the overall performance, that's the real question here, hope some sifu here can answer this, doing this myself is kind of time consuming.
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 30 2013, 06:16 PM)
I just installed a new win8 on the ssd, now i can sorta dual boot. win8 on ssd and win7 on hdd. tongue.gif

now i have to reinstall all my programs and drivers on my win8. any tips how to reinstall the drivers automatically? or do i have to download and install it one by one?  hmm.gif
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no need to redownload everything if PC components went fubar.

Although windows update can install driver for you automatically, but they usually ONLY install drivers, do not expect it will install the extra software/utilities/GUI for you tongue.gif
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Hi guys, Im running win8 on a 8gb ram system.
My question is that is page file required? for now my page file is set to automatic and theres 4.6gb of page file.

Since I heard that if my ram is alot, i don't really need page file. Is that true?
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hi all, it seems like the plextor m5s not "ngam" with either lg dvdrw or ga-h87n-wifi mobo; fyi, the ssd is a boot drive.

my problem is whenever lg dvdrw is attached, during boot-up, the screen (at times) will prompted me "reboot or insert boot media" error, the root cause is due to the ssd gone missing in bios post sweat.gif , and hence lead to the boot error, so when i removed the dvdrw, everything boot-up flawlessly, is there any remedy for this icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 1 2013, 10:47 PM)
hi all, it seems like the plextor m5s not "ngam" with either lg dvdrw or ga-h87n-wifi mobo; fyi, the ssd is a boot drive.

my problem is whenever lg dvdrw is attached, during boot-up, the screen (at times) will prompted me "reboot or insert boot media" error, the root cause is due to the ssd gone missing in bios post sweat.gif , and hence lead to the boot error, so when i removed the dvdrw, everything boot-up flawlessly, is there any remedy for this icon_question.gif
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From what i know, it seems like theres some problem with the boot priority..
You might have to set ssd as 1st boot priority.


Anyway, whats the benefit of ram caching? will it really speed up the speed?
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 1 2013, 11:21 PM)
From what i know, it seems like theres some problem with the boot priority..
You might have to set ssd as 1st boot priority.
Anyway, whats the benefit of ram caching? will it really speed up the speed?
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spoon-feed me pls blush.gif how to set and make it stays permanently? i had set it before, but then when dvdrw comes, he plays ninja hide n seek, the whole drive vanished in bios post vmad.gif
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 1 2013, 11:40 PM)
spoon-feed me pls blush.gif  how to set and make it stays permanently? i had set it before, but then when dvdrw comes, he plays ninja hide n seek, the whole drive vanished in bios post vmad.gif
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Like i said, i dont know much about this. I just started setting up my ssd a few days ago.So i cant help you much..

Maybe you can try unplug the dvd where it can sense the ssd, then from the bios, set the ssd as the 1st to boot?
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 1 2013, 07:14 PM)
Hi guys, Im running win8 on a 8gb ram system.
My question is that is page file required? for now my page file is set to automatic and theres 4.6gb of page file.

Since I heard that if my ram is alot, i don't really need page file. Is that true?
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You can, if you don't really utilize the RAM for extreme purpose such as photoshop huge image and I mean seriously huge (couple of mega-pixels with tons of effects) and plenty of them all at once.
Gaming wise, there's already a game (Lost Planet 3) require 8GB RAM so I'm not too sure if leaving pagefile-less would crash it? (Sifu please continue....)

QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 1 2013, 11:40 PM)
spoon-feed me pls blush.gif  how to set and make it stays permanently? i had set it before, but then when dvdrw comes, he plays ninja hide n seek, the whole drive vanished in bios post vmad.gif
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Check the BIOS for every single available drive when you bootup with all drive plugged-in.
Btw, what's your PC? Desktop? Laptop?
I haven saw such event where one drive will disappear unless it's the PATA era (Master/Slave jumper) where you must set the jumper carefully. hmm.gif
Please also do some camera shots for all the drives list, so we do know what's exactly happened inside your BIOS, with everything plugged-in of course. nod.gif
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i just installed plextor m5s 128gb, but the plextools cannot recognize it.. what might be the problem?

and my benchmark is like this.. the value is abit off for write i believe.. other ppl benchmark get around 200MB/s.. is there something wrong with my SSD? just bought few days ago sad.gif

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Harga Plextor M5S 128GB dah naik... Nasib baik aku sempat beli harga murah..

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 2 2013, 09:47 AM)
Check the BIOS for every single available drive when you bootup with all drive plugged-in.
Btw, what's your PC? Desktop? Laptop?
I haven saw such event where one drive will disappear unless it's the PATA era (Master/Slave jumper) where you must set the jumper carefully. hmm.gif
Please also do some camera shots for all the drives list, so we do know what's exactly happened inside your BIOS, with everything plugged-in of course. nod.gif
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seems like i m not alone in this case, refer here, will try some suggestions later, now not at home

the ssd is for my pc. in bios post the ssd is not detected until i remove the dvdrw rclxub.gif

QUOTE(lok3i @ Sep 2 2013, 08:02 PM)
Harga Plextor M5S 128GB dah naik... Nasib baik aku sempat beli harga murah..

fuhhhh~~~
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weakened rm, sigh... i bought mine rm330

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anyone plz help? anything wrong with my reading? the ssd is on sata3 tho.. but not direct intel one cos my z68 mobo don have direct intel controller on sata3..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:20 PM)
anyone plz help? anything wrong with my reading? the ssd is on sata3 tho.. but not direct intel one cos my z68 mobo don have direct intel controller on sata3..
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Have you tried steps below? (Please use AS SSD in all benchmarks)
1. Latest chipset drivers on the SATA port that you installed.
2. Tested with optimization yet? Benchmark 1 before and 1 after to rectify if it helps.
3. How about benchmark on Intel SATA?
Also, please list your exact mainboard model (revision if available) + others hardware installed if possible.

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 3 2013, 10:33 AM)
Have you tried steps below? (Please use AS SSD in all benchmarks)
1. Latest chipset drivers on the SATA port that you installed.
2. Tested with optimization yet? Benchmark 1 before and 1 after to rectify if it helps.
3. How about benchmark on Intel SATA?
Also, please list your exact mainboard model (revision if available) + others hardware installed if possible.
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my driver all after install windows 8 then i straight test. optimization done based on the website provided at 1st page. i think my mobo don have intel sata, the intel one is sata2. my mobo is ASRock Z68 Pro 3, revision i cant be sure.
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Hi, I got an SSD as my boot drive. The problem is my SSD left 2gb free space. Will it reduce the performance of SSD like a normal HDD?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 3 2013, 12:08 PM)
my driver all after install windows 8 then i straight test. optimization done based on the website provided at 1st page. i think my mobo don have intel sata, the intel one is sata2. my mobo is ASRock Z68 Pro 3, revision i cant be sure.
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Please provide the AS SSD benchmark screen shot then we can go further.
Also please do the test on Intel SATA2 port as well, well make it 2 test then one on your SATA3 and one on Intel SATA2, and lets Sifu here judge if you should just use the Intel SATA2.
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kk i will try later.. but i getting this ultra dma crc error or something like tat at SMART.. say wat maybe cable problem?

this is i plug into my mobo SATA3 port
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please advice.. my fren also got the same result, i dunno wat he plug la but he just got his desktop 1 week ago.. i5 4670, b85 chipset i think, asrock also. sorry, i searched the net, it says that both sata2 and sata3 is controlled by z68 chipset.. so if like that more weird...


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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM)
seems like i m not alone in this case, refer here, will try some suggestions later, now not at home

the ssd is for my pc. in bios post the ssd is not detected until i remove the dvdrw rclxub.gif
weakened rm, sigh... i bought mine rm330
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I got the same problem too, my mobo wont boot to SSD unless i select one of my bootable thumbdrive sweat.gif
it happens every time i update BIOS, my mobo is Asus doh.gif
if you dont OC, just reset your bios setting to optimal settting and select SSD as boot drive again, it always worked for me.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Sep 3 2013, 06:18 PM)
I got the same problem too, my mobo wont boot to SSD unless i select one of my bootable thumbdrive sweat.gif
it happens every time i update BIOS, my mobo is Asus doh.gif
if you dont OC, just reset your bios setting to optimal settting and select SSD as boot drive again, it always worked for me.
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today i clear cmos as suggested and attach ssd (port0)> dvdrw (port1) > hdd (port2) one by one, seems ok at first but then happened again after reboot (ssd disappeared), last resort is to detach the dvdrw and problem gone completely. mine is gigabyte ga-h87n-wifi & plextor m5s, both already flashed with the latest firmware.

some suggested to detach other hdd during os installation, i will give it a try for my next wins8.1 update in oct, for the time being just need to bare with no odd, anyhow not a big deal as i rarely use dvdrw actually, and furthermore i hv external odd.
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happened to me b4...
just make sure SSD got separate connector from psu...
do not use molex extender (it gots 4 wires only compared to 5 wires from psu connector)
else as recommended in replied above
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 3 2013, 01:39 PM)
kk i will try later.. but i getting this ultra dma crc error or something like tat at SMART.. say wat maybe cable problem?

this is i plug into my mobo SATA3 port
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this is i plug into SATA2 port
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please advice.. my fren also got the same result, i dunno wat he plug la but he just got his desktop 1 week ago.. i5 4670, b85 chipset i think, asrock also. sorry, i searched the net, it says that both sata2 and sata3 is controlled by z68 chipset.. so if like that more weird...
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Ok, use Intel SATA2, no need to think too much, you'll never utilize that high sequential read in daily usage so don't worry too much about SATA2 speed, it seems the 3rd party chipset is not optimized.
When you see the access time, it's obvious Intel chips is a clear winner, access time is 2nd to 4K read/write most important point to consider your SSD setup, it'll determine how much time to write data back to SSD which will eventually affect the 4K write, the Intel SATA port even has better access time for 4K read and access time, so there's no more doubt if you want to continue using your current system.

Intel SATA FTW!!

QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 3 2013, 08:49 PM)
today i clear cmos as suggested and attach ssd (port0)>  dvdrw (port1) > hdd (port2) one by one, seems ok at first but then happened again after reboot (ssd disappeared), last resort is to detach the dvdrw and problem gone completely. mine is gigabyte ga-h87n-wifi & plextor m5s, both already flashed with the latest firmware.

some suggested to detach other hdd during os installation, i will give it a try for my next wins8.1 update in oct, for the time being just need to bare with no odd, anyhow not a big deal as i rarely use dvdrw actually, and furthermore i hv external odd.
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I wonder if it's BIOS issue in certain board, just like certain server BIOS of which it'll boot into removable drive even with the HDD attached, and some BIOS even has trouble setting the HDD as the default boot drive.
I'm not too sure about your mainboard settings so you might need to takes time to dive into every single possible settings to find out about certain keywords as below:
Boot removable drive
Priority boot
Delay boot/start
... that's all I can know of. sweat.gif
Try different settings such as disable Boot removable drive (USB/DVD drive??), Priority boot the normal drive boot setup, Delay boot/start to delay few seconds to allow system to fully detect other hardware before start booting.

Good luck!
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Oh ok.. but wat i mean is i found out later my SATA3 port is also intergrated in z68 chipset, meaning to say it is also an intel controller.. but why sata3 score sucks so bad ><
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i just found out my OS HDD suddenly got so many bad sectors on the brink of dying off soon...i am planning 2 replace it with either 256GB or 512GB ssd...i want 2 know is it overkill getting either size just 2 installing the windows only hmm.gif hmm.gif
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sifu... wanna ask a bit...
my laptop is ASUS A53SV-SX053V.. can i change to my HDD to SSD??
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i just found out my OS HDD suddenly got so many bad sectors on the brink of dying off soon...i am planning 2 replace it with either 256GB or 512GB ssd...i want 2 know is it overkill getting either size just 2 installing the windows only hmm.gif hmm.gif
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But if you plan to install Games on it as well and plenty of them, then go for 256GB if you can afford it.

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my laptop is ASUS A53SV-SX053V.. can i change to my HDD to SSD??
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Yes you can, but I can't be sure about the hard disk height on that model, is the 750GB 9mm in height? If so then you can install almost every SSD in the market right now, if 7.5mm will need to fork more for some models, wonder why they tend to be much expensive. hmm.gif

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Yes you can, but I can't be sure about the hard disk height on that model, is the 750GB 9mm in height? If so then you can install almost every SSD in the market right now, if 7.5mm will need to fork more for some models, wonder why they tend to be much expensive. hmm.gif
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need suggestion for 256gb ssd... any reliable brand?and all ssd comes with international warranty?coz im planning to use in my laptop and cont my study in uk.... any suggestion?
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QUOTE(@skyhawk@ @ Sep 6 2013, 01:11 PM)
need suggestion for 256gb ssd... any reliable brand?and all ssd comes with international warranty?coz im planning to use in my laptop and cont my study in uk.... any suggestion?
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 5 2013, 09:06 AM)
128GB is enough for OS only, you can also install most resource hungry programs in it.
But if you plan to install Games on it as well and plenty of them, then go for 256GB if you can afford it.
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need suggestion for 256gb ssd... any reliable brand?and all ssd comes with international warranty?coz im planning to use in my laptop and cont my study in uk.... any suggestion?
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Better buy @ UK
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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Sep 7 2013, 10:09 AM)
QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 7 2013, 11:50 AM)
haha yeah mang...hardware in UK is very dirt cheap...you work in mcdonalds part time 4 few months already can buy a decent ssd already laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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err...r u sure cheap?? coz if convert the price around 700....same price with here rght?? summore I heard price for electronic part mostly very expensive, coz tax very expensive... sweat.gif sweat.gif

btw, currently I c many ppl suggest Samsung and Plextor ssd...nobody suggest intel anymore? a few years back I think intel ssd very2 popular and reliable, 0% failure rate... hmm.gif
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err...r u sure cheap?? coz if convert the price around 700....same price with here rght?? summore I heard price for electronic part mostly very expensive, coz tax very expensive... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

btw, currently I c many ppl suggest Samsung and Plextor ssd...nobody suggest intel anymore? a few years back I think intel ssd very2 popular and reliable, 0% failure rate... hmm.gif
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adoi...you dont convert larh...dollar 2 dollar is freaking cheap laugh.gif say SSD for 128gb is only 100 pounds + VAT 20 pounds...you need 2 work part time 4 1 month there and you can buy 128gb SSD already with some spare change rclxms.gif unlike malaysia part time you cannot buy any thing at all doh.gif what you get here is peanuts which is not enough rclxub.gif

intel was the first company ever 2 make SSD but when so many company make SSD with better performance intel is history already haha

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I wonder if it's BIOS issue in certain board, just like certain server BIOS of which it'll boot into removable drive even with the HDD attached, and some BIOS even has trouble setting the HDD as the default boot drive.
I'm not too sure about your mainboard settings so you might need to takes time to dive into every single possible settings to find out about certain keywords as below:
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... that's all I can know of. sweat.gif
Try different settings such as disable Boot removable drive (USB/DVD drive??), Priority boot the normal drive boot setup, Delay boot/start to delay few seconds to allow system to fully detect other hardware before start booting.

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>> to overcome this, switch 'OFF' main switch, switch it 'ON' and power ON PC almost simultaneously, with that issue resolved whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jakuraz @ Sep 11 2013, 08:29 PM)
hi guys. im currently using crucial m4 256gb, bought last year. works very efficiently.
now i gonna buy another ssd for other laptop. now which ssd is the best? looking for best bang for buck (price to performance ratio)
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Crucial M500 perhaps?

the 960GB one best bang for buck whistling.gif
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hye guys, im using plextor m5pro xtreme rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Sep 12 2013, 03:42 PM)
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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Sep 12 2013, 05:04 PM)
hye guys, im using plextor m5pro xtreme  rclxms.gif

but it seems that my pc boot kinda slow compared to my friend, is there any ways or utilities to make is go faster?? thanks biggrin.gif
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seems legit like it now.
what windows? search for win 7 or 8 ssd optimization bro smile.gif
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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Sep 12 2013, 05:56 PM)
thanks for the tips, but i have a problem now, my keyboard did not functional during boot to enter bios but it is okay when entering windows, is there any ways to setup my keyboard so that i can press DEL during boot?  blush.gif
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/7237/samsung...on-nand-scaling

Article on how Samsung is using V-NAND tech. Its impact is enable Samsung to produce big capacity SSD.
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Well, I prefer to do it myself unless the shop is an expert coz, this is my laptop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8wWVzSjaOk

Edit: My laptop's warranty has expired. So maybe I can experiment my laptop.
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Mine also dell laptop.. When i show my dell, the technician start to doh.gif .. They refuse to install it for me.. So i DIY while wacthing this video.. Take risk on my own.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Sep 13 2013, 10:49 AM)
Mine also dell laptop.. When i show my dell, the technician start to  doh.gif .. They refuse to install it for me.. So i DIY while wacthing this video.. Take risk on my own..  nod.gif
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I see. I will DIY too. Best thing is have to undress my laptop completely. This one video, he took out the screen. He said to be safe. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 13 2013, 10:38 AM)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7237/samsung...on-nand-scaling

Article on how Samsung is using V-NAND tech. Its impact is enable Samsung to produce big capacity SSD.
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So we may see something that eventually replace HDD at 3TB or 4TB capacity with same size as current SSD?
Jeez, that means supa transfer speed in NAS or something like that is coming true lol. Just a matter of time for such technology to become common for affordable price hmm.gif .

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Sep 13 2013, 10:49 AM)
Mine also dell laptop.. When i show my dell, the technician start to  doh.gif .. They refuse to install it for me.. So i DIY while wacthing this video.. Take risk on my own..  nod.gif
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I'm surprise you call up Dell to install 3rd party hardware into your laptop. doh.gif
Dell does not responsible for 3rd party hardware installation nor will they help you install it, it's beyond their scope of technical assistant and some (very strict one) will probably mark your unit as void of warranty due to user's fault, but most will still service them.
Either way I installed the SSD myself, so darn easy, just careful with clip base where you have to use some plastic to pry instead of using steel screwdriver (taught by one of the Dell engineer).

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just need info guys, anyone using crucial m500? performance ok?

thinking of getting 480gb. price is low for 480gb if compare with others.
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they say m500 not so nice, why not samsung 840pro or plextor m5s/m5pro?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 17 2013, 10:02 AM)
they say m500 not so nice, why not samsung 840pro or plextor m5s/m5pro?
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another question too, my notebook is with 500gb harddisk and msata 64gb ssd as cache. if i change it to ssd, the msata can set as storage?
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Can sifus recommend me the best and worth ssd? replace for laptop.
Plextor ok ?
M5 128GB
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I'm surprise you call up Dell to install 3rd party hardware into your laptop. doh.gif
Dell does not responsible for 3rd party hardware installation nor will they help you install it, it's beyond their scope of technical assistant and some (very strict one) will probably mark your unit as void of warranty due to user's fault, but most will still service them.
Either way I installed the SSD myself, so darn easy, just careful with clip base where you have to use some plastic to pry instead of using steel screwdriver (taught by one of the Dell engineer).
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U misunderstood me.. Not dell technician.. The shop technician where i bought SSD.. Becoz need to bogel laptop just to install SSD..

I DIY myself and as a result, superfast i3 laptop.. and the only slow in my laptop is my internet connection.. lol

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Sep 17 2013, 12:51 PM)
U misunderstood me.. Not dell technician.. The shop technician where i bought SSD.. Becoz need to bogel laptop just to install SSD..

I DIY myself and as a result, superfast i3 laptop.. and the only slow in my laptop is my internet connection.. lol
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Ok guys, I need your help. Currently desperately need to buy a SSD ASAP as a replacement for my broken HDD. Maybe either Samsung 840 Pro or Plextor M5 Pro. 256GB one. I really can't decide based on price and benchmarking result. Quite similar for both of them I think. The question is which one is more reliable? Just need an honest opinion. I'm a bit conflicted in choosing.

BTW I use my laptop for heavy gaming and a bit heavy Photoshoping/video editing. Is it overkill for me to buy either one of them? Maybe regular (Not Pro one) SSD is enough?

Any responses are highly appreciated. Thanks smile.gif
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Ok guys, I need your help. Currently desperately need to buy a SSD ASAP as a replacement for my broken HDD. Maybe either Samsung 840 Pro or Plextor M5 Pro. 256GB one. I really can't decide based on price and benchmarking result. Quite similar for both of them I think. The question is which one is more reliable? Just need an honest opinion. I'm a bit conflicted in choosing.

BTW I use my laptop for heavy gaming and a bit heavy Photoshoping/video editing. Is it overkill for me to buy either one of them? Maybe regular (Not Pro one) SSD is enough?

Any responses are highly appreciated. Thanks smile.gif
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Plextor 128gb cost around how much?
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QUOTE(xowangzi @ Sep 17 2013, 11:48 AM)
Can sifus recommend me the best and worth ssd? replace for laptop.
Plextor ok ?
M5 128GB
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Opened a thread but no reply laugh.gif https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...742&hl=force+gs

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 19 2013, 12:44 PM)
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The Corsair Force GS and the Force GT both use the same LSI SandForce SF2281VB1-SDC controller. The Force GS uses SanDisk 24nm Toggle Mode flash memory while the Force GT uses Micron Synchronous 25nm MLC flash memory. I would probably recommend the Force GS because of the toggle mode flash memory which gives the ssd an advantage when reading files. I would probably recommend the GT if you are going to be writing a lot of files. It depends on what you will be doing with your pc.

From http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/291235-3...h-corsair-force

At the bottom of Johnny post, he recommends GS as it uses sandisk flash memory. As we knew that sandisk is very reputable of making memory cards thing hmm.gif ...
Micron isn't bad either. Still, depends on your usage as stated in the quote above.

Somemore reviews that can make your life difficult for reading tongue.gif : http://www.johnnylucky.org/data-storage/ssd-database.html

From the datasheet, u will notice that Force3 is using same flash memory as GT, so GS is newer improvement imo.

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QUOTE(Petai Kota Bharu @ Sep 18 2013, 03:01 PM)
Plextor 128gb cost around how much?
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:14 AM)
I also looking for the best deal for 128GB installing in laptop.. any recommendation? (that's available in Malaysia)
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After install and using it, u will immediately forget about money u spent.. Vrooooommmm thumbup.gif

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I heard it boot up windows very fast??
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Guys,

In the midst to move my OS HDD to SSD as well.. smile.gif

How does the M5S 128GB if compare to Kingston Hyperx 3K or 5k?

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Hi guys,

I just got random SSD with 128GB from a friend to test. However , the label has been removed therefore i'm not pretty sure what model is that. Based on benchmark below, can anyone guess what is this ?? I'm running it on a Intel SATA 6.0gpbs interface from my mobo
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 21 2013, 11:22 AM)
Hi guys,

I just got random SSD with 128GB from a friend to test. However , the label has been removed therefore i'm not pretty sure what model is that. Based on benchmark below, can anyone guess what is this ?? I'm running it on a Intel SATA 6.0gpbs interface from my mobo
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Have tried my computer > right click the drive > properties > hardware > copy paste the disk drive name to google ?

or storage > disk management to check the hardware code/name.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Sep 21 2013, 11:38 AM)
Have tried my computer > right click the drive > properties > hardware > copy paste the disk drive name to google ?

or storage > disk management to check the hardware code/name.
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Thanks for the info..
Found already.
Samsung SSD SM841 2.5" 7mm 128GB ATA Device..

I google..No review also..Only got tht MSATA version
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 21 2013, 07:39 PM)
Thanks for the info..
Found already.
Samsung SSD SM841 2.5" 7mm 128GB ATA Device..

I google..No review also..Only got tht MSATA version
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Its the oem version of 840 seris from samsung.
http://us.hardware.info/news/30237/samsung...series-840-ssds
Try refresh the link if it didnt show at lst click.
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The first one is the mSATA PM841. It's available in capacities of 128, 256 and 512 GB (!). It has all the characteristics of the Series 840, with read speeds of up to 540 MB/s, write speeds up to 330 MB/s, read IOPS up to 100K and write IOPS up to 65K.
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The second one is the 2.5-inch version of the Samsung SSD PM841. Other than the different form factor it is identical, and also available in capacities of up to 512 GB.
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But speed wise its around the same as the non Pro Samsung 840 rite?
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 21 2013, 08:32 PM)
But speed wise its around the same as the non Pro Samsung 840 rite?
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QUOTE(dude06 @ Sep 21 2013, 01:20 AM)
Guys,

In the midst to move my OS HDD to SSD as well.. smile.gif

How does the M5S 128GB if compare to Kingston Hyperx 3K or 5k?

Tq    smile.gif
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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Sep 21 2013, 09:36 PM)
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Upgrade laptop hdd to ssd definitely give noticeable different. Especially when download something using IDM, file rebuild after finish so quick. didn't even notice flex.gif On normal hdd, laptop always hang for bigger size file rebuild. sweat.gif

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But i go shop they didn't sell SSD? Maybe its not common yet?
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QUOTE(Petai Kota Bharu @ Sep 23 2013, 08:21 PM)
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Ok, maybe that shop out of date haha.. Btw, which brands work best?
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QUOTE(Petai Kota Bharu @ Sep 23 2013, 08:41 PM)
Ok, maybe that shop out of date haha.. Btw, which brands work best?
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For compatibility I prefer Intel.
Price wise over performance probably Plextor M5S, Crucial M500.
For normal usage, any of them are good enough to show the big difference between ssd and hdd.
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Around 300 something can get it right? If second hand is it preferrable?
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How reliable is Plextor M5S? I need a seriously reliable SSD because if I were to get I am going to mod & void the warranty of it. Dont want few months after using it goes k.o laugh.gif
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Around 300 something can get it right? If second hand is it preferrable?
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Second hand only if you're desperate and can afford the aftermath, otherwise it's better to just go for new one.
This is a wear and tear product, you're not sure if the product has been stressed to a certain degree. hmm.gif
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I checked online & seems like plextor has a warranty void sticker on the ssd so opening the cover will void the warranty. Any idea which SSD do not have the warranty void sticker? I need to open the cover & spray paint it hmm.gif
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Practically blow everything away.
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 24 2013, 04:48 PM)
I checked online & seems like plextor has a warranty void sticker on the ssd so opening the cover will void the warranty. Any idea which SSD do not have the warranty void sticker? I need to open the cover & spray paint it  hmm.gif
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Intel 520 ? Its aluminum case, coz I didnt see any sticker of warranty on the opening screws part iinm.
I open mine at the time i get it just to double confirm i get is 520 lol.

QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 24 2013, 05:41 PM)
http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/sa...d-review-512gb/

Review on Samsung xp941 m.2 SSD.
Practically blow everything away.
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Expensive but mind blowing with such a small size sweat.gif .
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Sep 24 2013, 05:47 PM)
Intel 520 ? Its aluminum case, coz I didnt see any sticker of warranty on the opening screws part iinm.
I open mine at the time i get it just to double confirm i get is 520 lol.
Expensive but mind blowing with such a small size  sweat.gif .
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How about intel 330? laugh.gif

Perhaps I should just get a cheap ssd, cheapest right now is intel 330 60gb right? How it performs? Reliable? iirc back in those days everyone was recommending intel 330. Performance difference shouldnt be huge I assume.
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 25 2013, 02:50 AM)
How about intel 330? laugh.gif

Perhaps I should just get a cheap ssd, cheapest right now is intel 330 60gb right? How it performs? Reliable? iirc back in those days everyone was recommending intel 330. Performance difference shouldnt be huge I assume.
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Yea, intel 330 60gb is with metal casing also. The 60gb one isn't really that cheap also, still around rm200+ if nt mistaken.
Performance is ok ok, still reliable.
Because previously the price of Intel 330 120gb is one of the cheapest with good compatibility and reliability.

If modding, why not try to make metal casing with holes then put the metal casing as a cover for the ssd u have currently icon_idea.gif ?
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Sep 25 2013, 11:14 AM)
Yea, intel 330 60gb is with metal casing also. The 60gb one isn't really that cheap also, still around rm200+ if nt mistaken.
Performance is ok ok, still reliable.
Because previously the price of Intel 330 120gb is one of the cheapest with good compatibility and reliability.

If modding, why not try to make metal casing with holes then put the metal casing as a cover for the ssd u have currently  icon_idea.gif ?
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but then I will still need to remove the original casing to replaced the casing that I made, meaning need to cut the sticker anyway. I cant put the metal casing over the SSD because this is what I plan to do laugh.gif


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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 25 2013, 11:27 AM)
but then I will still need to remove the original casing to replaced the casing that I made, meaning need to cut the sticker anyway. I cant put the metal casing over the SSD because this is what I plan to do laugh.gif


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The casing painted very nicely, almost coated like stainless steel feelings.
For Intel SSD, they have a curve on top of it, not sure if this will make imperfection in your mod.
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Hmm, if cant put metal casing over it, how about custom made a casing to replace the original one? Will be much cost effective than spending RM200+ for a new ssd imo hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Sep 25 2013, 11:41 AM)
The casing painted very nicely, almost coated like stainless steel feelings.
For Intel SSD, they have a curve on top of it, not sure if this will make imperfection in your mod.
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Hmm, if cant put metal casing over it, how about custom made a casing to replace the original one? Will be much cost effective than spending RM200+ for a new ssd imo hmm.gif
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haha still thinking, probably not going to give a fark & just get a plextor la. Fark this issue laugh.gif Chances of SSD failing is slim though right? Will benchmark it & run for 1 month before modding? That should give enough time to test if it will fail or not hmm.gif
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 25 2013, 11:54 AM)
haha still thinking, probably not going to give a fark & just get a plextor la. Fark this issue laugh.gif Chances of SSD failing is slim though right? Will benchmark it & run for 1 month before modding? That should give enough time to test if it will fail or not hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Petai Kota Bharu @ Sep 23 2013, 08:21 PM)
But i go shop they didn't sell SSD? Maybe its not common yet?
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Same as here, the shopkeeper even asked me, what is SSD? vmad.gif
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QUOTE(chenhui87 @ Sep 26 2013, 04:36 PM)
Same as here, the shopkeeper even asked me, what is SSD? vmad.gif
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Where your location ?
This because some shop assistant not update their knowledge on latest technology. Mostly they only know smartphone/tablet as latest technology laugh.gif
If this type of seller sell ssd, normally their price goes higher than normal price

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a110-m.2-ssd,3594.html

Review on Sandisk A110 m.2
Also give a good introduction on what m.2 entail etc. Good read for those who need to catch up.
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QUOTE(letze @ Sep 26 2013, 11:46 PM)
Where your location ?
This because some shop assistant not update their knowledge on latest technology. Mostly they only know smartphone/tablet as latest technology  laugh.gif
If this type of seller sell ssd, normally their price goes higher than normal price
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the person i asked is the boss~~ vmad.gif

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Need special MOBO to support SSD?
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Need special MOBO to support SSD?
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Then these SATA mobo is more expensive?
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QUOTE(Petai Kota Bharu @ Sep 27 2013, 03:27 PM)
Then these SATA mobo is more expensive?
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SATA is now a common standard with all modern motherboards. Even cheaper Intel H61 boards around RM1xx is also SATA capable, but they're only SATA 2 capable.

However, to fully utilize the SATA 3 capability of most modern SSDs, you're advised to at least go with boards which is also SATA 3 capable. Most B75/85 boards have SATA 3 ports.
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QUOTE(yoyoman @ Sep 27 2013, 03:45 PM)
Just bought samsung 940 120gb

Damn fast i can say smile.gif but writing speed, NO.
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Read fast write slow?
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Read fast write slow?
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yep read 520mb/s

write 150mb/s only
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benchmark for my ssd: Plextor M5 pro FW:1.05

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beat my OCZ vertex 4 to dust lol..

ps: this is a fresh OS install without any optimization from the first page yet.. will post more if got some improvement after optimization

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after following optimization guide from the first page and update intel RST driver and chipset generally got overall improvements noticeably on 4k write performance and seek time has been reduce a bit.
but sequential read drop almost 40mb/s rclxub.gif

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Samsung 840 Pro 128GB vs Plextor M5S 128GB
which one recommended?
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Samsung 840 Pro 128GB vs Plextor M5S 128GB
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Samsung 840 Pro 128GB for sure, but u are comparing different grade of ssd since the price & performance is different also lol.
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contender should be plex M5 pro or ocz vector iinm..
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Hi guys, i wish to buy a ssd only for booting os, my budget is around RM350, which should i get in the range of 120gb?
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QUOTE(GeForceX @ Sep 30 2013, 12:51 PM)
Hi guys, i wish to buy a ssd only for booting os, my budget is around RM350, which should i get in the range of 120gb?
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For normal user, 60gb is enough.. And the speed are noticable.. But nowaday, 120gb is minimum.. just my two cent..
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QUOTE(kayFX @ Sep 28 2013, 05:21 AM)
benchmark for my ssd: Plextor M5 pro FW:1.05

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beat my OCZ vertex 4 to dust lol..

ps: this is a fresh OS install without any optimization from the first page yet.. will post more if got some improvement after optimization

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after following optimization guide from the first page and update intel RST driver and chipset generally got overall improvements noticeably on 4k write performance and seek time has been reduce a bit.
but sequential read drop almost 40mb/s rclxub.gif
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My plextor M5S 256gig hit around 900-1000 marks.. very satisfied.. good enough for me..

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QUOTE(GeForceX @ Sep 30 2013, 12:51 PM)
Hi guys, i wish to buy a ssd only for booting os, my budget is around RM350, which should i get in the range of 120gb?
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Crucial M500
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QUOTE(GeForceX @ Sep 30 2013, 03:58 PM)
Is it ok to get plextor M5S
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Sep 30 2013, 08:12 PM)
Yes.
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The current best value for money? Felt a bit wasted staying with conventional HDD on i5 & 8gb ram.
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The current best value for money? Felt a bit wasted staying with conventional HDD on i5 & 8gb ram.
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You can't go wrong with either Plextor or Crucial, both value for money as of current market price.
You can even convert your conventional HDD to DVD drive slot if you can't spend over RM400 for SSD and needs the space constantly on your laptop, like I what have right now, 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD on my laptop, both speed and space. wink.gif
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2661383&hl=

Anybody bought from him before?
The cheapest 128gb M5S in lowyat I guess? flex.gif
Reliable seller? Very tempting. brows.gif
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Hello, as I am going to install SSD into my ASUS lappy, few questions here.

1. The installation of SSD will void the warranty of my laptop?
2. If I change the DVD slot into my HDD, will it void my warranty too? And is it recommended to do so or just change the HDD to SSD and HDD become external hard disk?
3. Is there any converter that available for my DVD so I can use it as external?

Thanks for helping.
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Oct 1 2013, 06:16 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2661383&hl=

Anybody bought from him before?
The cheapest 128gb M5S in lowyat I guess? flex.gif
Reliable seller? Very tempting. brows.gif
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Haven't deal with him so far, but from what i have read he got mostly positive ones.
Not sure if he's offering cheapest price, u can always ask other seller or surf lelong/ipmart website for price comparison.

QUOTE(Jounouchi @ Oct 1 2013, 09:39 PM)
Hello, as I am going to install SSD into my ASUS lappy, few questions here.

1. The installation of SSD will void the warranty of my laptop?
2. If I change the DVD slot into my HDD, will it void my warranty too? And is it recommended to do so or just change the HDD to SSD and HDD become external hard disk?
3. Is there any converter that available for my DVD so I can use it as external?

Thanks for helping.
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I think wont void the warranty if the opening points/screws are not covered by warranty stickers.
Try ask storm88 , he got more experience regarding this.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 1 2013, 09:57 PM)
Haven't deal with him so far, but from what i have read he got mostly positive ones.
Not sure if he's offering cheapest price, u can always ask other seller or surf lelong/ipmart website for price comparison.
I think wont void the warranty if the opening points/screws are not covered by warranty stickers.
Try ask storm88 , he got more experience regarding this.
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Nevermind, I will try ask the seller of SSD before installation.
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QUOTE(Jounouchi @ Oct 1 2013, 10:39 PM)
Hello, as I am going to install SSD into my ASUS lappy, few questions here.

1. The installation of SSD will void the warranty of my laptop?
2. If I change the DVD slot into my HDD, will it void my warranty too? And is it recommended to do so or just change the HDD to SSD and HDD become external hard disk?
3. Is there any converter that available for my DVD so I can use it as external?

Thanks for helping.
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hi

for your case, it wont void your warranty. So don't worry

you may refer to here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2600686&hl=
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just wanted to know.
days ago I just bought a ssd.
its kingston hyperx 3k 120gb @ rm390
this is my first time buying it but I haven't use it yet because I'm waiting for my full pc hardware part.
just wondering, is it a good ssd ? is it worth buying it ?
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there is significant speed boost using ssd when trying to execute programs compare to traditional hdd.. so upgrading from hdd to ssd is the best thing ever happen to me in my computer hardware experience.. hope this help.. it doesn't matter what brand but ppl been recommending plextor for best value and faster speed too.. if comparing ssd to ssd yes have to be selective which is faster than which but first time upgrade gonna bring smile.. only disadvantage of ssd is small capacity.. higher capacity gonna cost a hole in the bank.. biggrin.gif

if you considering an upgrade from hdd to ssd just go for it.. for capacity can use hdd as external.. program, windows just put in ssd.. it a good investment.. nod.gif
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Is theRe anybody that uses lite one 128gb sad here?
Is it worth it?
It's the cheapest ssd i can find in the market
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 4 2013, 01:27 AM)
Is theRe anybody that uses lite one 128gb sad here?
Is it worth it?
It's the cheapest ssd i can find in the market
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u mean the liteon ssd ?
its somehow rare to see in shops now.
what model of the ssd u saw is cheapest ?
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 4 2013, 02:26 PM)
u mean the liteon ssd ?
its somehow rare to see in shops now.
what model of the ssd u saw is cheapest ?
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yea liteon, yesterday was typing on a phone while sleepy.
Saw it in LYN, 128GB which is sufficient for my windows, hackintosh on other partition.
128GB is 250 on LYN>..
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 4 2013, 02:31 PM)
yea liteon, yesterday was typing on a phone while sleepy.
Saw it in LYN, 128GB which is sufficient for my windows, hackintosh on other partition.
128GB is 250 on LYN>..
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RM250 is ok by considering its older series/batch ssd.
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Is theRe anybody that uses lite one 128gb sad here?
Is it worth it?
It's the cheapest ssd i can find in the market
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 4 2013, 02:26 PM)
u mean the liteon ssd ?
its somehow rare to see in shops now.
what model of the ssd u saw is cheapest ?
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yea liteon, yesterday was typing on a phone while sleepy.
Saw it in LYN, 128GB which is sufficient for my windows, hackintosh on other partition.
128GB is 250 on LYN>..
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RM250 is ok by considering its older series/batch ssd.
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iinm, Lite-on is one of the largest OEM supplier of SSD.
For example, Plextor SSD is manufactured by Lite-on.
LCT-256M3S (this Lite-on is actually slightly faster than as the old Plextor M3)
We normally won't find Lite-on SSD on retails, but in laptop (eg. lots of Dell models use Lite-on SSD). Rock steady firmware.
May want to make sure it is brand new unit, and not some salvaged parts smile.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 4 2013, 11:01 PM)
iinm, Lite-on is one of the largest OEM supplier of SSD.
For example, Plextor SSD is manufactured by Lite-on.
LCT-256M3S (this Lite-on is actually slightly faster than as the old Plextor M3)
We normally won't find Lite-on SSD on retails, but in laptop (eg. lots of Dell models use Lite-on SSD). Rock steady firmware.
May want to make sure it is brand new unit, and not some salvaged parts smile.gif
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it's new. But what for need so fast for boot speed. That one comes last in my list. hehehehe
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it's new. But what for need so fast for boot speed. That one comes last in my list. hehehehe
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will update the ssd firmware erase the data inside?
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 4 2013, 11:43 PM)
it's new. But what for need so fast for boot speed. That one comes last in my list. hehehehe
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My plextor is coming today. Both 128 and 256. flex.gif
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QUOTE(gsan @ Oct 5 2013, 09:33 AM)
will update the ssd firmware erase the data inside?
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update ssd firmware will not erase data inside.. thumbup.gif
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my intel ssd 3500 160g. That result normal for this ssd?
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Sep 30 2013, 01:24 PM)
For normal user, 60gb is enough.. And the speed are noticable.. But nowaday, 120gb is minimum.. just my two cent..
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120gb is enuf ?
I had to move all WINRAR & IDM temp storage to HDD to make enuf space for OS & few games.
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i install 4 games my 128gb ssd have little space only.. laugh.gif
that includes OS and basic software.. not even office.. T_T
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Oct 5 2013, 12:07 PM)
my intel ssd 3500 160g. That result normal for this ssd?
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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Oct 5 2013, 12:21 PM)
120gb is enuf ?
I had to move all WINRAR & IDM temp storage to HDD to make enuf space for OS & few games.
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mine just 60gig.. Enough for win8, microsoft office 2013 and other essential software.. Muvi and other file in my giant 2tb seagate.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Oct 5 2013, 04:03 PM)
mine just 60gig.. Enough for win8, microsoft office 2013 and other essential software.. Muvi and other file in my giant 2tb seagate..  flex.gif
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coz 'm currently downloading a zip file of 77.6 gb files rite now.
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hye guys, this is my first SSD and i have no idea how to tweak it or to know is it okay or not blush.gif

is this okay?

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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Oct 5 2013, 05:13 PM)
hye guys, this is my first SSD and i have no idea how to tweak it or to know is it okay or not  blush.gif 

is this okay?
Model ?
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QUOTE(stasio @ Oct 5 2013, 09:36 PM)
Model ?
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QUOTE(stasio @ Oct 5 2013, 09:36 PM)
Model ?
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QUOTE(kayFX @ Oct 5 2013, 09:41 PM)
it plex m5 pro 256gb.. on the benchmark result got the model name.. tongue.gif
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yeah, plextor m5 pro smile.gif just wondering people said that if use ssd, windows will boot around 10sec like that, but mine was not fast enough, maybe there are some tips?? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Oct 5 2013, 05:13 PM)
hye guys, this is my first SSD and i have no idea how to tweak it or to know is it okay or not  blush.gif 

is this okay?

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Should be faster.. bcoz my plextor m5s not pro can get this speed also.. try to tweak using guide in 1st page.. or just google it..
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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Oct 5 2013, 05:13 PM)
hye guys, this is my first SSD and i have no idea how to tweak it or to know is it okay or not  blush.gif 

is this okay?

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This is my plextor m5s.. to compare, yours dont have score for read acc time.. 256 plextor pro should be 1000++

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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Oct 5 2013, 12:53 AM)
Not only boot speed, softwares and games launch faster too.
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What if I don't have enough space for games?
Boot Speed and softwares is my concern, but without other more important components like Processor and GC, it will just be as useless as a hard drive to me. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Oct 5 2013, 12:21 PM)
120gb is enuf ?
I had to move all WINRAR & IDM temp storage to HDD to make enuf space for OS & few games.
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Definitely enough if you link your downloads and music to other hard drive.
Now I'm using HDD with Photoshop and other storage eating Programs installed to HDD.
Going to pickup a new PSU today for my Second hand GC (GTX 470 rclxm9.gif )
might as well pickup a 128gb ssd as dad is paying brows.gif
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Oct 6 2013, 09:06 AM)
This is my plextor m5s.. to compare, yours dont have score for read acc time.. 256 plextor pro should be 1000++
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Wow really?? What did i do wrong? hmm.gif and why i dont have read acc ya? When i run the benchmark, it say sometg failed when at read acc
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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Oct 5 2013, 05:13 PM)
hye guys, this is my first SSD and i have no idea how to tweak it or to know is it okay or not  blush.gif 

is this okay?

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QUOTE(activexxx @ Oct 6 2013, 12:00 PM)
how much do u bought this?
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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Oct 6 2013, 10:45 AM)
Wow really?? What did i do wrong?  hmm.gif and why i dont have read acc ya? When i run the benchmark, it say sometg failed when at read acc
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for plex 256 M5 pro shud be around this score i think.. --> previous post
im running RAID 0 so not sure got diff or not.. about read access fail i do not know.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kayFX @ Oct 6 2013, 06:17 PM)
for plex 256 M5 pro shud be around this score i think.. --> previous post
im running RAID 0 so not sure got diff or not.. about read access fail i do not know.. hmm.gif
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wow drool.gif drool.gif datz score, hmm i wanna try tips on the frist page, if anytg change, ill post it here blush.gif
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Oct 6 2013, 09:06 AM)
This is my plextor m5s.. to compare, yours dont have score for read acc time.. 256 plextor pro should be 1000++
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QUOTE(kayFX @ Oct 6 2013, 06:17 PM)
for plex 256 M5 pro shud be around this score i think.. --> previous post
im running RAID 0 so not sure got diff or not.. about read access fail i do not know.. hmm.gif
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updated score after tweaking as in first page of this thread hmm.gif (sorry for the language, i cant change it to English)

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this what happen when at read acc

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but manage to decrease boot time to 10sec blush.gif

so what is your opinion?

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QUOTE(alikato94 @ Oct 6 2013, 07:29 PM)
updated score after tweaking as in first page of this thread  hmm.gif (sorry for the language, i cant change it to English)

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this what happen when at read acc

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but manage to decrease boot time to 10sec  blush.gif

so what is your opinion?
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Oct 6 2013, 09:06 AM)
This is my plextor m5s.. to compare, yours dont have score for read acc time.. 256 plextor pro should be 1000++
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Your M5S in super dirty state already?
Btw, latest firmware 1.05 thought.

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QUOTE(Niklaus @ Oct 6 2013, 10:17 PM)
guys samsung 840 pro vs plextor mp5 pro which one more better,,,
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Either one. But from internet reviews and those benchmarks, M5P is faster. hmm.gif

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Your M5S in super dirty state already?
Btw, latest firmware 1.05 thought.


how to check firmware version? And how to update?

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how to check firmware version? And how to update?
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http://www.plextoramericas.com/index.php/d...egory&catid=166

The file is iso file if I'm not mistaken, you have to burn them into CD and boot via bios. brows.gif

After shutting off C1E, C3 and C6 states.
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how to check firmware version? And how to update?
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Oct 7 2013, 05:11 PM)
http://www.plextoramericas.com/index.php/d...egory&catid=166

The file is iso file if I'm not mistaken, you have to burn them into CD and boot via bios. brows.gif

After shutting off C1E, C3 and C6 states.
[attachmentid=3664233]
brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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what C1E, C3 and C6 State?

I cant get above speed even after update firmware.. Maybe bcoz my ssd half full?

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Oct 7 2013, 08:01 PM)
what C1E, C3 and C6 State?

I cant get above speed even after update firmware.. Maybe bcoz my ssd half full?
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its hibernate function if not mistaken.. maybe because of that too.. (half full)
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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Oct 7 2013, 08:01 PM)
what C1E, C3 and C6 State?

I cant get above speed even after update firmware.. Maybe bcoz my ssd half full?
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C1E, C3 and C6 State, volting & clock controller features in CPU, to reduce power when you are not utilizing the CPU.
Btw, not much differences in real life, unless you peep @ milliseconds.

I'm also kinda new to SSD, what I did is, follow the whole optimization guide thoroughly.
Through testing, I found out the most important ones are,

1. SSD must connect to Intel sata3 6gbps port for optimal performance
2. Use the Intel chipset/RST driver
3. Update the SSD firmware
4. Other than that, just follow the guide at first page

Bought this piece @ RM 595 without postage fee, satisfy with it at the moment, hopefully the high efficiency stays let say after 2 or 3 years of usage. icon_rolleyes.gif

Edit: Wrong pricing stated. tongue.gif

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Add me into the SSD users!
Just bought a Kingston SSDNow 120GB!
Use it under Sata 2 Port as mobo doesn't have SATA 3.
Will be getting a Pcie card soon!
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 8 2013, 11:03 PM)
Add me into the SSD users!
Just bought a Kingston SSDNow 120GB!
Use it under Sata 2 Port as mobo doesn't have SATA 3.
Will be getting a Pcie card soon!
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You mean PCIe x1 sata3 card?
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Oct 9 2013, 09:13 AM)
You mean PCIe x1 sata3 card?
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RUnning SSDNow V300 on Sata 2 brows.gif
how can i tweak it?
Here are the results.
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yep! blush.gif
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I reckon that is not a good investment.
Read a lot on the web that, mostly are running Marvell chipset and Marvell does not support trim.
And a lot of PCIe x1 sata 3 controllers are junk, a good one PCIe x4 comes with hefty price.
Better keep the money for next upgrade and use the current native sata2 intel controller.

Unless you transferring GBs of data everyday. brows.gif

QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 9 2013, 10:53 AM)
RUnning SSDNow V300 on Sata 2  brows.gif
how can i tweak it?
Here are the results.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Max dy. Read speed still can go, but need sata3. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 9 2013, 10:53 AM)
RUnning SSDNow V300 on Sata 2  brows.gif
how can i tweak it?
Here are the results.
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get sata 3 and easy 500 score flex.gif
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Oct 9 2013, 11:44 AM)
get sata 3 and easy 500 score flex.gif
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rated max for 450 only? hah.
people manage to go up to 520 though. hehe
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Oct 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
I reckon that is not a good investment.
Read a lot on the web that, mostly are running Marvell chipset and Marvell does not support trim.
And a lot of PCIe x1 sata 3 controllers are junk, a good one PCIe x4 comes with hefty price.
Better keep the money for next upgrade and use the current native sata2 intel controller.

Unless you transferring GBs of data everyday. brows.gif
Max dy. Read speed still can go, but need sata3. laugh.gif
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stucking in sata 2 isn't cool. mad.gif
so you sure its not good? Because i want to try a used usb 3.0 and sata 3.0 card. if i can't use the sata 3, i can use the usb 3.0 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 9 2013, 10:50 PM)
stucking in sata 2 isn't cool.  mad.gif
so you sure its not good? Because i want to try a used usb 3.0 and sata 3.0 card. if i can't use the sata 3, i can use the usb 3.0 biggrin.gif
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You using what mobo & proc now?
Its not that not good, there are pros and cons. See what are you doing with it.
If purposely setup for benchmarks only, then really not good.
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Oct 10 2013, 07:47 PM)
hi guys.. planning to buy SSD.. but dunno what brand to buy.. any recommendation?
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Crucial M500, Plextor M5S, Seagate 600 series are pretty good for price/performance models.
Depends on your usage and capacity needed.
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Oct 10 2013, 07:47 PM)
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 10 2013, 08:54 PM)
Crucial M500, Plextor M5S, Seagate 600 series are pretty good for price/performance models.
Depends on your usage and capacity needed.
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i c... im looking for best value.. the performance and price balance.. thx for ur kind advice.. biggrin.gif
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Plextor M5S
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Oct 10 2013, 09:15 AM)
You using what mobo & proc now?
Its not that not good, there are pros and cons. See what are you doing with it.
If purposely setup for benchmarks only, then really not good.
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Oct 10 2013, 07:58 PM)
i c... im looking for best value.. the performance and price balance.. thx for ur kind advice..  biggrin.gif
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Samsung 840 Evo! heheehe rclxms.gif
or Plextor MS5 as they are at the same price! smile.gif

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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 11 2013, 10:38 AM)
Mobo: Gigabyte H55M-S2
Proc: Intel Core i7 870 @3.2Ghz(stock clocked at 3.2 which is weird  hmm.gif )
setup for faster boot speed
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That specs good enough la bro..
During boot, get up and stretch awhile before start gaming. brows.gif
Faster by 2 to 5 seconds only, forget about the pcie card. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Oct 12 2013, 09:43 AM)
That specs good enough la bro..
During boot, get up and stretch awhile before start gaming. brows.gif
Faster by 2 to 5 seconds only, forget about the pcie card. nod.gif
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Mana good haha! ciplak specs. Salute to 4960x users here! notworthy.gif
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Just bought a Plextor mSATA SSD but it doesn't come with the small screws to secure the card after plug into the mSATA port. The seller said it normally comes with the laptop. Is it true?

Can I just assemble the mSATA SSD without securing it with screws?
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Hi,I'm new to this ssd,so I need opinion which 1 is suit me better...
Budget is RM600,but the prob is,my motherboard is old 1...
It's a P55 chipset board(Maximus 3 Gene)....
Please help me to choose....Just want to make sure worth to buy with that amount of money and no regrets later....
And please inbox me where you will prefer to buy it,or any recommended seller..prefer KL location...
Thank you....

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Forgot to add : I prefer capacity 180GB or more....

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Anyone want to purchase a new mSATA SSD 128GB? I am selling of a bit cheaper coz I bought the wrong type... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Refer to this thread https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2992596
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QUOTE(activexxx @ Oct 12 2013, 10:29 AM)
Just bought a Plextor mSATA SSD but it doesn't come with the small screws to secure the card after plug into the mSATA port. The seller said it normally comes with the laptop. Is it true?

Can I just assemble the mSATA SSD without securing it with screws?
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Aren't the laptop msata installation just similar ram ? it should have some sort of clip to secure it for where it was inserted.

QUOTE(sgh141 @ Oct 13 2013, 11:39 AM)
Hi,I'm new to this ssd,so I need opinion which 1 is suit me better...
Budget is RM600,but the prob is,my motherboard is old 1...
It's a P55 chipset board(Maximus 3 Gene)....
Please help me to choose....Just want to make sure worth to buy with that amount of money and no regrets later....
And please inbox me where you will prefer to buy it,or any recommended seller..prefer KL location...
Thank you....

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Forgot to add : I prefer capacity 180GB or more....
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Quite a few choices:
1. Plextor M5S 256gb RM599
2. Crucial M500 240gb RM639
3. Seagate 600 series 240gb RM639
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 13 2013, 02:19 PM)
Aren't the laptop msata installation just similar ram ? it should have  some sort of clip to secure it for where it was inserted.
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Yes, the clip is secured but the size is different. If u see my link, then u'll know
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hey guys looking for a 120/28gb ssd. Im looking for stability and reliability. Is the speed on paper not much difference in real world usage? I'm looking at Samasung 840, Crucial m4 and Plextor M5s.
May I know which is the best choice?
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i just got kingston hyper x 3k ssd (240GB). nice performance. windows exp index = 8.1 thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(CallMeGucci @ Oct 14 2013, 09:33 AM)
hey guys looking for a 120/28gb ssd. Im looking for stability and reliability. Is the speed on paper not much difference in real world usage? I'm looking at Samasung 840, Crucial m4 and Plextor M5s.
May I know which is the best choice?
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Yup, there's not much difference you can feel in real world performance in normal usage.
Crucial M4 is older series, get Crucial M500 instead.
The other models u listed are all ok.

QUOTE(figure8 @ Oct 14 2013, 04:14 PM)
i just got kingston hyper x 3k ssd (240GB). nice performance. windows exp index = 8.1 thumbup.gif
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SSD makes things with haste and no longer need to wait long long like before cool2.gif .
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 14 2013, 04:39 PM)
SSD makes things with haste and no longer need to wait long long like before  cool2.gif .
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yea, upgraded my pc with ssd + usb3 for external hdd make me feel really happy. i can work even faster.
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Today I just upgraded to a "new" that comes with custom cooler which covers all the sata ports. I have to remove one of the fans to access to sata port.
so basically now I'm forced to use pcie x1 extender and a sata 3.0 pcie x1 card. Do you guys have any brands to recommend me? Prefably 4 ports but 3 is minimum.
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 14 2013, 11:55 PM)
Today I just upgraded to a "new" that comes with custom cooler which covers all the sata ports. I have to remove one of the fans to access to sata port.
so basically now I'm forced to use pcie x1 extender and a sata 3.0 pcie x1 card. Do you guys have any brands to recommend me? Prefably 4 ports but 3 is minimum.
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u upgrade to a "new" what? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 10 2013, 07:54 PM)
Crucial M500, Plextor M5S, Seagate 600 series are pretty good for price/performance models.
Depends on your usage and capacity needed.
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Is corsair not good enough?
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 11 2013, 10:38 AM)
Samsung 840 Evo! heheehe  rclxms.gif
or Plextor MS5 as they are at the same price!  smile.gif
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So which is better? Samsung or PLextor hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 15 2013, 03:31 AM)
Is corsair not good enough?
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 15 2013, 03:42 AM)
So which is better? Samsung or PLextor hmm.gif
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Corsair brand is overprice in most models.
Samsung EVO is better, but warranty not being covered locally.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 15 2013, 11:44 AM)
Corsair brand is overprice in most models.
Samsung EVO is better, but warranty not being covered locally.
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Why isn't the warranty covered here <why.jpeg> What's your suggestion? I wanted to take Samsung because got some people said that Samsung's SSD is reliable among the best hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 15 2013, 04:20 PM)
Why isn't the warranty covered here <why.jpeg> What's your suggestion? I wanted to take Samsung because got some people said that Samsung's SSD is reliable among the best hmm.gif
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Because there's no distributor bring in the samsung ssd, anything DOA or defect after months u can only send back to where u buy.
The shipping cost and time is u to bear most likely, and how much it will be? depends on location and how dealer deal with u . My suggestion as stated in previous post.
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QUOTE(kayFX @ Oct 15 2013, 12:16 AM)
u upgrade to a "new" what? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 15 2013, 04:20 PM)
Why isn't the warranty covered here &lt;why.jpeg&gt; What's your suggestion? I wanted to take Samsung because got some people said that Samsung's SSD is reliable among the best hmm.gif
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Samsung for its brand and reliability
plextor for its warranty.
corsair, no advantages.
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Oct 15 2013, 05:50 PM)
Samsung for its brand and reliability
plextor for its warranty.
corsair, no advantages.
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Lol this explanation is a little weird, Corsair do have good SSD such Neutron GTX series. As for price, its just slightly higher or similar as other brand's high performance ssd.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Oct 15 2013, 07:30 PM)
Lol this explanation is a little weird, Corsair do have good SSD such Neutron GTX series. As for price, its just slightly higher or similar as other brand's high performance ssd.
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then why not I just get the ssd that has the same performance of it for a cheaper price?
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Hello bros , I just install SSD to my notebook and to my suprise, it seems that the score is below average... or it is normal?

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Saw an announcement from a reseller regarding Samsung SSD.
Samsung 840 Evo 120gb RM375, 250gb RM610.
This is very competitive price with its performance imo.

However, still on pending for the warranty issue. Will update as soon as I got the reply smile.gif .
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soon we will get local warranty for samsung ssd's. they will come to Malaysia soon.

also found the new samsung 840 evo at lyp.


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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 16 2013, 09:48 PM)
soon we will get local warranty for samsung ssd's. they will come to Malaysia soon.

also found the new samsung 840 evo at lyp.
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That's totally juicy news.. Can wait to get hand on samsung ssd.. nod.gif
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Okay, I have confirm that the news is true from the reseller.
Samsung SSD is now officially carry by one MY distributor.
So far only 840 Evo and 840 Pro series if not mistaken.
Finally no longer to worry warranty issue if the ones u bought is MY set.
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yeah finally smile.gif 840 evo is the latest 2.5". hopefully we can see msata and m.2 versions later on.
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Just want to ask , do you guys get random blue screen after using SSD? I've been getting it a lot "randomly" after upgrading to SSD. Didn't have it with my previous HDD.

I know it's probably not hardware cause I only upgraded the SSD.
Probably not software because it can hang even just at idle.

Using Corsair if i'm not mistaken.


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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 17 2013, 07:41 PM)
Just want to ask , do you guys get random blue screen after using SSD? I've been getting it a lot "randomly" after upgrading to SSD. Didn't have it with my previous HDD.

I know it's probably not hardware cause I only upgraded the SSD.
Probably not software because it can hang even just at idle.

Using Corsair if i'm not mistaken.
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The random freeze / "stuck" happens to my Force 3 previously. But after some tweaking by referring to the guide as first page no prob afterward.
Blue screen might be your graphic driver not updated? Try update may solve also.
Your SSD is what model ?
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QUOTE(sgh141 @ Oct 13 2013, 11:39 AM)
Hi,I'm new to this ssd,so I need opinion which 1 is suit me better...
Budget is RM600,but the prob is,my motherboard is old 1...
It's a P55 chipset board(Maximus 3 Gene)....
Please help me to choose....Just want to make sure worth to buy with that amount of money and no regrets later....
And please inbox me where you will prefer to buy it,or any recommended seller..prefer KL location...
Thank you....

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Forgot to add : I prefer capacity 180GB or more....
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As long as your motherboard support SATA (sata III preferably), then no problem.
Run W7 or later, since Vista don't support TRIM natively.

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