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post Jul 8 2013, 11:18 PM

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I think I want to buy OCZ Vector 4 but not sure where to get it? Doesn't seem to be selling in lowyat shops and couldn't find lowyat topic selling it also..
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post Jul 9 2013, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 9 2013, 12:07 AM)
Perhaps u mean vector or vertex 4  whistling.gif ?
Yea I didnt see either one of them in lowyat price list now. Instead, I saw a new line up of Vertex 450 from OCZ.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex...iew,3517-7.html

I think garage sellers may still have stock for vertex4  hmm.gif .
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Ya I got it wrong, heard vertex 4 has good reviews smile.gif is vector newer and faster than vertex 4?
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:29 PM

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I decided to get Samsung 840 Pro. It is fastest compare to rest and only OCZ Vector beats it.

However reading the reviews, Samsung seems to be all positive while OCZ Vector has quite a number of negative reviews that says that the harddisk is blazingly fast while it works... which is just 2-3 months before it fails and need to send for warranty.
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post Jul 10 2013, 02:16 PM

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Anyone know where can we buy Samsung 840 SSD? macam only got one seller in garage sales selling but he in jakarta now...

Does anyone know any shops in lowyat/digitalmall that sells it?

thanks!

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post Jul 10 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 10 2013, 06:31 PM)
Hmm not sure how the results will be, I didn't try those config on my HDD. If using AHCI mode on HDD, I think the speed will be improved a little for HDD as boot drive.
you mean ronald?
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Yup smile.gif You bought from him as well?

He said that 256GB is out of stock sad.gif don't know how to get
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post Jul 10 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Jul 10 2013, 06:38 PM)
Havent' try to deal with him, because so far only see him selling samsung ssd with good feedback from customers.
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post Jul 18 2013, 09:49 PM

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Will the samsung 840 evo cheaper or more expensive than the 840 pro of the same capacity?

Aiseh... just bought 840 pro (haven't even reached) now this announcement sad.gif
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post Jul 20 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(jliewch2003 @ Jul 19 2013, 06:51 PM)
hi guys, i jz read through the thread and found that samsung ssd seems have a good review from you guys, may i know what is the pricing for it? i looking for ssd around 120gb only for windows. Is there any recommended model from all big bro? Thanks in advanced yaaaa
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Get samsung 840 pro 128gb, around RM450, best ssd with speed and reliability from all the reviews i read. My brother bought some corsair ssd from lowyat 128mb also RM400 already but not as good.

lowyat forum only got one seller for samsung 840 pro, but he seems like mia for quite a while d, check out his thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2645620&hl=
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post Jul 21 2013, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(uncontrolled @ Jul 21 2013, 02:03 AM)
Anyone know where to get samsung 840 pro ssd?

it's out of stock from ronald(the only one who sell 840pro in lyn)

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I ordered mine from ebay U.S. last week but till now still haven't reach lol.
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post Jul 26 2013, 04:23 PM

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My first SSD at the beginning of time... 40GB only lol install windows then no space for anything else already... but that time damn expensive

I think is corsair force series

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Update: My Samsung 840 pro arrived!! quite happy with the write speed though I not sure why the 4KQD32 score so low.. but I don't know what is 4KQD32 also lol

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post Jul 27 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 27 2013, 10:13 PM)
Are its partitions properly aligned?
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Can explain more on how to check? clueless..
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post Jul 28 2013, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 28 2013, 12:34 AM)
Run the AS SSD Benchmark program and it will display the partition offset. It should be on the line above your SSD's storage capacity. If it is "1024 K - OK" or any value that is cleanly divisible by 4, then your SSD is aligned.
The number of cases where ramdisk shows a visible improvement has significantly reduced with SSDs, but it is still not zero.
It should regain most of its speed on either format or secure erase. But it is also not worth the trouble and your performance loss might not reduce much if your SSD has already achieved 'steady state' performance.
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sifu, followed your advice and ran the benchmark.. seems like it is not aligned.. how to fix it?

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post Jul 28 2013, 02:03 PM

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Weird, i did formatted the ssd during windows 7 installation on boot up. Didnt do any partition also it is just one big chunk.

Yesterday i googled on hoe to realign the ssd, found a guide with 3 different methods, easiest is to use mini tool partition wizard which have one button press auto align feature. After using it my windows explorer crashes on boot up and cant do anything lol. Now reformatting again... heard that every reformat damages ssd so now a bit worried.
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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 28 2013, 03:09 PM)
You can use quick format if that option is available. A full format is only needed once in a very long while or when you need to confirm that there are no bad sectors.

As for the 'damage', don't worry. You can theoretically reformat once everyday and still expect the SSD to survive to its third year. If it was quick formatted, it won't even notice.

I hope that you deleted all the partitions and recreated the partitions during installation. This is done before formatting. Otherwise you might still get the same "1 K - BAD" status.
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After partition wizard did the magic, I reinstalled windows 7 again doing a quick format and now it is aligned smile.gif

Thanks a bunch everling!!!

New benchmark results way better than before, this is great!!

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post Jul 31 2013, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Jul 29 2013, 07:41 PM)
My Plextor M5S 256G Slightly slower than this..  rclxms.gif
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Hehe.. make sure you aligned your ssd, that will give it max performance. The numbers doesn't mean anything as long as it is running its full potential while eliminating unnecessary writes -> longer life!

Usually higher speed comes with a price (for example overclocking runs hotter) but for ssd seems like speed and reliability is in the same direction..
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post Aug 1 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Jul 31 2013, 09:39 PM)
I think my plextor (yet not pro) can't beat samsung 840pro but very satisfied with it.. I use ramdisk to avoid unnecessary read and write on ssd..
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what is ramdisk?

QUOTE(deadmeat2012 @ Aug 1 2013, 01:05 AM)
is ssd price increasing or decrease ?
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it will like ram, over time the same price will get you bigger and bigger ssd.. if you mean price to size ratio of course decreasing smile.gif
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post Aug 2 2013, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 1 2013, 10:21 PM)
Align SSD? What's that? hmm.gif

Btw, I did do some SSD optimization steps from theSSDreview.com
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Check out these:
http://lifehacker.com/5837769/make-sure-yo...ive-performance
http://www.overclock.net/t/1226963/how-to-...-hdd-partitions


Summary below:

The traditional rotating disks are divided into physical sectors. The Windows operating systems and their components operate according to this sector logic. Despite the fact that SSDs store the data in a completely different way, they are still being treated with this sector logic.

The alignment of the SSD is required to assure that a logical sector starts exactly at the beginning of a physical page of the SSD. Without the alignment, the sector boundaries and the page boundaries will not match and sectors will span pages. That would require for a Windows write operation to clear two blocks in lieu of only one thus reducing the write speed by 50%.

Situation

If you install Windows7 on a brand new SSD, you need not make any special arrangements because the Windows7 installer will do the alignment for you. For Vista you are lucky because the start sector happens to match a SSD page. For XP the start sector is 126 which would be in the middle of a SSD page, thus a prior alignment is required.
A similar situation is present when you clone an existing OS (including Windows7) on a new SSD.



QUOTE(deadmeat2012 @ Aug 2 2013, 02:33 AM)
ok ty very much now i am just playing a waiting game XD
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QUOTE(xain @ Aug 5 2013, 06:25 PM)
does anyone heave any idea where else can i get the samsung 840 pro from other than the person from garage sales?

i wondering since samsung 840 pro is so good, why isn't shops in lowyat stocking it?  hmm.gif
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I am not sure why too. And I got mine from ebay u.s., adding shipment fee is around rm800

QUOTE(xain @ Aug 5 2013, 09:54 PM)
its not that high if you compare it to other brands. its nearly within range with other competitors.
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Yes, people will pay a bit more for its quality if it is advertised properly.

QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Aug 5 2013, 10:03 PM)
Business is always complicated regarding distributing/bringing in the products. Or maybe the price tag is too high for retail price and the risk will be high in case local market not get used to it.
Seagate do have SSD lineup, u can view it at the first page latest news section.
WD is on their way...
Everything is related to the cost bro, u need to test the market value and see how's the sale go on to decide massive production or not.
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The demand is quite crazy based on the only Samsung SSD seller's thread in garage sales lol.
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post Aug 25 2013, 08:34 AM

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Hello, what's the cheapest 512gb ssd available in the market? Plan to buy one to replace super slow company laptop's 512gb harddisk by cloning it.

Thanks!
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post Aug 25 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Aug 25 2013, 04:17 PM)
Maybe Crucial M500 480gb RM1249 and Seagate 600 Series 480gb RM1259.
Price from Viewnet.
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still so pricey.. maybe wait one more year

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