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post Jul 8 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(k3et @ Jul 8 2013, 11:23 AM)
Yes, I already connected to Marvell sata 3 port with AHCI enable.

The best I got is 400mb read. Wondering is that possible my other setting or tweak that I can boost the reading speed back to 490~520mb as per advertise or average other ppl reading speed.
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Your is old motherboard, the Marvel 3 SATA 3 port bandwidth probably limited by the PCI express 5GB/s speed.
just live with it or upgrade your motherboard to newer one with true native intel 6GB/s SATA port.
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post Jul 9 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:38 AM)
Guys, planning to get an SSD by month end, I'm looking to speed up my old AMD rig, an x3 710 on M4A785TD-V Evo. Read quite a few articles but still need to clear some Q's

1. Other than Plextor M5S 128GB, what else should l consider for a budget of RM300?
2. AHCI mode must be set before plugging in the SSD? looking to fresh install the OS
3. Same thing like HDD right? need to initialize & format before 1st use?
4. Anyone has the same mobo? any tips?

Any pointers will be of great help
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For SSDs recomendation you should read this https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=61539477
But plextor SSD arent that bad, it was the a cheapest performance SSD i could buy when the price was still near 1GB = 1 dollar (in singapore lah) sweat.gif

2. yup, to avoid performance drop, switch to AHCI after installed OS is pain in the butt.
3. update the firmware before doing anything, but if install new OS you dont have to do anything, just like HDD.
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Jul 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
the one i bolded is need to switch @ BIOS for all SSD?
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Yup, some SandForce based SSD require AHCI mode to update its firmware, and it is necessary as it will improve performance compare to IDE mode, because you will get newer native AHCI driver from INTEL/AMD instead of default driver from Microsoft which may only treat your SSD like a HDD.
Newer mobo is default to AHCI, older one are mostly IDE if i recall correctly,

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post Jul 9 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Jul 9 2013, 12:32 PM)
sorry intel520 120gb is sandforce? cause not reallly expert in SSD...
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Yup
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Source http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/intel-s...ty-to-sandforce
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post Jul 28 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 27 2013, 11:45 PM)
I thought ramdisk do not provide visible improvement anymore with ssd nowadays??
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Technically, RAMdisk is much more faster than SSD, but it's volatile storage and unless you have large amount of RAM to create a usable ramdisk, it's not really useful now imho.
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jul 29 2013, 11:19 AM)
Even with the latest laptop and manufacturer still uses IDE mode?  shocking.gif  doh.gif
FYI my Dell Studio 1555 near 4 years is AHCI by default and can switch between IDE and AHCI. hmm.gif
Oh gosh, now I'm even more confused... need Lenovo G400S owner to clarify this:

Lenovo G400S, SATA default mode, AHCI or IDE?
And can it changed between mode?

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IDE mode still existed for compatibility reason, for example, Plextor SSD firmware updater will not work unless you temporary set the SATA mode to IDE mode.
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post Aug 3 2013, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(muhiann @ Aug 3 2013, 12:55 AM)
hi,i'm new ssd user here.Just bought plextor m5pro xtreme 128gb.
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is this result good??
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Install your mobo latest chipset driver! msachi is default AHCI driver from Microsoft, native AHCI driver will improve performance.

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post Aug 3 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(muhiann @ Aug 3 2013, 06:29 PM)
i already install latest intel chipset driver download from intel website.how to make sure it use native ahci?
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May be you need to install iRST as well, if the mobo chipset driver already included the intel AHCI driver, the info on AS SSD benchmark will change from msachi to iastor.
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post Aug 4 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 04:23 PM)
So if I mainly uses the browser(chrome) only, means theres not much increase in speed other than boot time?
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if your computer already fast enough, it may be hard to tell the difference unless the program installation size is large(Adobe CS/photoshop/games/OS ect), or if you frequently save/read large files, then you may need SSD.

jsut buy the cheapest, rm300 something with SATA 6GB/s 128GB should be enough, i have 256GB SSD but only utilized half of it, even with 3 OS installed.
Just install the software you use very frequently on SSD, the rest goes to HDD.

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post Aug 4 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 04:58 PM)
Thing is, its for my gf. But she dont game and she mostly just surf net on the comp. So, I've been wondering whether its worth it to spend extra for ssd or spend extra for a better laptop since im choosing a laptop for her..
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Oh laptops, HDD are prone to damage if your laptop fall down/knocked if accidentally, SSD wont, basically SSD will reduce a lot of your headache after prolonged use, compare to HDD(file fragmentation/general slowness).
Or just buy the one with HDD with SSD cache if you can, turn of extra craps that runs on start up will help reduce boot time, and use hibernate, too.

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post Aug 4 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 05:11 PM)
In other words, it doesnt really help much if its just normal web surfing?
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nope, very unlikely, but just like i said, SSD wont be damaged by accidental knock or fall down.

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post Aug 4 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 4 2013, 05:19 PM)
Thats what I've been looking for, around 2k with ssd. Where is the speed bump which will be experienced when using ssd? opening files, boot up, and?
besides, she might want to do some little photoshop, so im considering getting an i5..
Apart from the fall damage which might occur to hdd and the faster boot up, not much advantage if her usage is only surfing? hmm.gif
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Yup, i still can surf happily with my old dying core i5 460M laptop with slow HDD. tongue.gif
still cam play some light games without much problem.
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(keyzjh @ Aug 6 2013, 10:59 PM)
Is the difference in speed between a Plextor M5S and a Samsung 840 PRO noticeable?

Stuck between a 128gb plextor M5S or 256 GB 840 PRO (due to stock shortage).

Do you guys use up 128gb easily?
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Not really noticable unless you have two SSD side by side and doing comparison. normal user should not worry bout the performance anyway.

no, if you only install OS on SSD, W8 on 64GB SSD is more than enough. non essential file such as movie/pcitures/music should be stored on HDD.

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post Aug 8 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(AuraSapphire @ Aug 8 2013, 08:19 PM)
Curious, how do you do super fast boot up? I have tried many method. Cant seem to get it.
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Tutorial are everywhere sweat.gif
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Windows-Comp...Start-up-Faster
advanced method would be enable EFI boot instead of legacy ROM mode, but i personally never tried it before.
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldlim91 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:27 PM)
hey guys, been having a hard time deciding which SSD would be better, by first impression i would like to go for the plextor m5s 128gb, due to it's cheaper price (RM299 from zhen^wei). but my friend did suggested me to consider the sandisk 128gb (RM325) as well. based on write speed sandisk would be slightly better and also the brand is more widely known. can you guys suggest which is better? which might serve me for a longer period of time? budget wise is around RM300+. thanks!
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Always remember this: Many of the SSD maker uses ATTO benchmark result to advertise their read/write speed, by default ATTO use compressible algorithm benchmarking, which is why it looks good. if they use AS SSD as result the write speed will drop a lot tongue.gif
SanDisk SSD got 2 type, older one are SandForce Driven, the newer Ultra Plus is using Marvel Controller.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6553/sandisk...sd-review-256gb

Btw SandDisk SSD is always an average performer sweat.gif
can consider Samsung/intel/plextor too
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post Aug 31 2013, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 30 2013, 06:16 PM)
I just installed a new win8 on the ssd, now i can sorta dual boot. win8 on ssd and win7 on hdd. tongue.gif

now i have to reinstall all my programs and drivers on my win8. any tips how to reinstall the drivers automatically? or do i have to download and install it one by one?  hmm.gif
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You have to download and install one by one, that's i always download and save it on data HDD.
no need to redownload everything if PC components went fubar.

Although windows update can install driver for you automatically, but they usually ONLY install drivers, do not expect it will install the extra software/utilities/GUI for you tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM)
seems like i m not alone in this case, refer here, will try some suggestions later, now not at home

the ssd is for my pc. in bios post the ssd is not detected until i remove the dvdrw rclxub.gif
weakened rm, sigh... i bought mine rm330
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I got the same problem too, my mobo wont boot to SSD unless i select one of my bootable thumbdrive sweat.gif
it happens every time i update BIOS, my mobo is Asus doh.gif
if you dont OC, just reset your bios setting to optimal settting and select SSD as boot drive again, it always worked for me.
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post Dec 5 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(phantasm0110 @ Dec 5 2013, 08:22 AM)
how is the booting time into window? significant improvement?
I'm planning to get a SSD as well but scare not much improvement as well due to limited on SATA2 as well
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SSD will decrease boot time significantly even if the SSD support only up to SATA 2, or limited by your mobo SATA port, because SSD has highper IOPS and very low Random Access Time.
You can verify the boot time "visually", if you are still using HDD now, press Window Key + R, type MSCONFIG, go to Boot tab, tick "OS Boot Information".
next time you start computer, you can see windows loading list long of Drives before booting into log in screen.
After installed SSD you can only see the list appear and disappeared in the blink of eyes thumbup.gif
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post Dec 5 2013, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(VinceCheong @ Dec 5 2013, 07:58 PM)
Hi guys, I think it's high time I plan to get an SSD (this Saturday, 7th December) to run my OS, applications and etc.

I'm planning to get a Minimum of 240Gb SSD, but now the question is which one?
Samsung EVO 240Gb or Intel something something. [Yeah I don't know what to get]

My criteria that should hopefully be met is, value/price, performance, reliability, after sales services = such as RMA, warranty,etc.
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Now my system is running on RAID mode, with 3 HDDs, 1 HDDS(A) for OS, and 2 HDD(B and C) is raided 0 together for data....

Will it be hard if i were to replace HDD(A) as a normal data drive swapping it with the SSD? as in would it be a difficult process?

Thanks smile.gif
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Lyn forumer mostly recommend Intel SSD, so you could not go wrong with it.
For cloning OS partition to SSD, you should trim your OS partition(and remove junk) before cloning, like moving the programs to HDD, unless your OS partition is as large as the SSD capacity.
Cloning software i'd recommend you Acronis True Image, http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119
It support cloning large capacity HDD to SSD, while other free cloning software could not do it.
And also support partition resizing/editing before cloning.
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post Dec 6 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(phantasm0110 @ Dec 6 2013, 08:40 AM)
thanks....at least will be better than my current HDD performance right? plus i can migrate the SSD to future computer if i plan to upgrade the mobo+processor right?

the current bang for buck is plextor m5s and kingston v300?
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Definitely better, for migrating part it's same for every storage devices i think.
I don't know about their price, but Plextor SSD are always cheaper than the rest. And you should read up their Controller info before buying them.
Plextor are using Marvel SSD controller, while Kingston using SandForce.

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