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Any1 knows any substitute for squats and lunges? (knee cap hurts atm) |
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anyone going or been to Elements Gym in KL?
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Is my workout routine fine?
Day 1. Chest / Bicep Day 2. Back / Tricep Day 3. Legs / Shoulder |
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 10 2012, 03:59 PM) I would put legs in between. Chances are your arms haven't recovered from chest/bi day in time for back/tri day.Added on April 10, 2012, 4:08 pm QUOTE(mcbarney666 @ Apr 10 2012, 04:07 PM) Dude, if you can do anything else after Legs, then you didn't do legs properly. Leave Legs on a day by itself. Put Shoulders after Legs. This too. This post has been edited by -Dan: Apr 10 2012, 04:08 PM |
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I've recently stumbled upon an interesting article on what they call as "Afterburn training/effect". I'm currently doing conventional weights training, 4 workouts(3 setsx10reps) followed by HIIT(15mins). How great is the afterburn effect from my workout? Any sifu can enlighten me and provide better insight on Afterburn training/effect?
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QUOTE(synchun @ Apr 10 2012, 06:10 PM) I've recently stumbled upon an interesting article on what they call as "Afterburn training/effect". I'm currently doing conventional weights training, 4 workouts(3 setsx10reps) followed by HIIT(15mins). How great is the afterburn effect from my workout? Any sifu can enlighten me and provide better insight on Afterburn training/effect? ask mike chang |
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Apr 10 2012, 05:35 PM
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it works but u nid to know wad u're doing
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Apr 10 2012, 05:41 PM
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question: does my diet affect the recovery from DOMS or is it each person is individually different in terms of the rate of recovery?
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Question : Wide stance squats vs Regular stance squat. Pick one
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I used to squat narrow(regular) so to speak, but I can never get my knees to stay behind my feet nor my lower lumbar from rounding if I go parallel or ATG. Shit be snapping up all in my knees and back. Started transitioning to wide stance box squats. Still feel it in my quads, however my hams and glutes are way more sore than my quads. I figured that I rather train my quads extra than to risk snapping my knees and back even more.
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 10 2012, 06:19 PM) I used to squat narrow(regular) so to speak, but I can never get my knees to stay behind my feet nor my lower lumbar from rounding if I go parallel or ATG. Shit be snapping up all in my knees and back. Started transitioning to wide stance box squats. Still feel it in my quads, however my hams and glutes are way more sore than my quads. I figured that I rather train my quads extra than to risk snapping my knees and back even more. Dat dere squat butt>tree trunks |
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Apr 10 2012, 06:29 PM
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Try out front squats? My back got pretty aggravated when I used to do back squats. Switched to front squats and got a much better leg workout, quads, hams, glutes, everything. ATG baby!
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Apr 10 2012, 06:23 PM) Nah, I still hammer the living daylight out of my quads. Even more now that I went over to a wide stanceQUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 10 2012, 06:29 PM) Try out front squats? My back got pretty aggravated when I used to do back squats. Switched to front squats and got a much better leg workout, quads, hams, glutes, everything. ATG baby! I alternate between front squats and leg press. I like hack squats but the hack squat machine in my gym is a wee bit retarded. |
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wide stance = more power lifting style . more glutes and hams involve . : /
i do regular and front squat |
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Apr 10 2012, 08:29 PM
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Question:
Since I do not have a squat rack at home, are hack squats an effective substitute for normal squats? |
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Thx for the info. I'll be alternating my DB squats with BB hack squats then.
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Dangerous? How so? I'm no where near those kind of weights yet, but it'll be great if you can enlighten me. So far the only problem I have with DB squats is the large plates getting in the way, and the painful wrists.
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With DB squats, the limiting factor will be how much you can hold. And seeing as your wrists are getting sore, it seems you're getting close to that limit. With hacks, You don't have to hold anything and can concentrate on using your legs. I agree with the hack squats and DB lunges combo.
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dat feel when u have the whole gym staring at u when ur doing heavy db presses..havent had so much attention at the gym ever..
L O V E taylor's gym..epic trance music blasting..weights all available for me..fuarrkkkk need shankar and deadmau5 to train with me for full on aesthetics krew |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 10 2012, 10:15 PM) dat feel when u have the whole gym staring at u when ur doing heavy db presses..havent had so much attention at the gym ever.. How heavy do the DBs go there?L O V E taylor's gym..epic trance music blasting..weights all available for me..fuarrkkkk need shankar and deadmau5 to train with me for full on aesthetics krew |
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QUOTE If you don't know what sarcasm is, I suggest you look it up. Bottom line, you're not going to become a midget. - by -DanI searched for the meaning also I dun really get it leh Regarding the height, I'm 15 and 156cm. My parents are short so there's a high chance I won't grow too tall, that's why I dun wanna risk affecting it even more. |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 10 2012, 11:10 PM) 40kg..i was using the 36..if ur lifting the heavier dumbells, peak hour or not doesnt matter..nobody uses them..lol Sweet, nice range of weights! QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Apr 10 2012, 11:11 PM) - by -Dan Okay, forget all that. Lifting weights is not going to stunt your growth. Stunted growth is due to damage to growth plates. There's no impact involved in lifting weights. If you lift properly with good form, it may even help you grow that little bit more because it can stimulate the release of growth hormones. You're 15, your hormone levels are gonna get even higher in the coming years, so might as well make use of that and get stronger and fitter.I searched for the meaning also I dun really get it leh Regarding the height, I'm 15 and 156cm. My parents are short so there's a high chance I won't grow too tall, that's why I dun wanna risk affecting it even more. http://stronglifts.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/ http://skinnybulkup.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/ If you're worried about your height, there are other things you should be thinking about, instead of the type of exercise you do. Are you eating right? Are you sleeping enough? These things are more likely to have an effect on your overall growth that whether you play football or lift weights. |
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well..to be honest i lifted dumbells overhead to stunt my growth last time..did it for maybe 3months when i was in form 2 or 3..
broscience or not it somewhat worked as i did not grow that much after that..maybe it was just coincidence.. im 190cm now..so if u wanna grow tall just sleep alot man..take that afternoon nap after school..i slept from like 3-7pm everyday |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 10 2012, 11:41 PM) well..to be honest i lifted dumbells overhead to stunt my growth last time..did it for maybe 3months when i was in form 2 or 3.. How tall were you in form 3 ?broscience or not it somewhat worked as i did not grow that much after that..maybe it was just coincidence.. im 190cm now..so if u wanna grow tall just sleep alot man..take that afternoon nap after school..i slept from like 3-7pm everyday GUIZE, how much protein is there in 100g of chicken ? O_O I'm getting all sorts of answers from 20g to 40g This post has been edited by thelion4ever: Apr 11 2012, 12:12 AM |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 10 2012, 10:15 PM) dat feel when u have the whole gym staring at u when ur doing heavy db presses..havent had so much attention at the gym ever.. L O V E taylor's gym..epic trance music blasting..weights all available for me..fuarrkkkk need shankar and deadmau5 to train with me for full on aesthetics krew |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 10 2012, 05:07 PM) Actually i am doing chest/tri and back/bi routine before, but after the chest workout, i cant really do the tricep exercise well, so i decide to using this split.Added on April 11, 2012, 1:46 am QUOTE(synchun @ Apr 10 2012, 05:10 PM) I've recently stumbled upon an interesting article on what they call as "Afterburn training/effect". I'm currently doing conventional weights training, 4 workouts(3 setsx10reps) followed by HIIT(15mins). How great is the afterburn effect from my workout? Any sifu can enlighten me and provide better insight on Afterburn training/effect? I think scooby can answer this. http://scoobysworkshop.com/afterburner-eff...melts-away-fat/This post has been edited by FiragaZ: Apr 11 2012, 01:46 AM |
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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 11 2012, 12:04 AM) How tall were you in form 3 ? right around that ball park. I usually just go with the middle road, 30g. so if I wanna have say 60 - 80g of protein for that certain meal, a 180 - 200g chicken breats will doGUIZE, how much protein is there in 100g of chicken ? O_O I'm getting all sorts of answers from 20g to 40g |
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 10 2012, 08:49 PM) IMHO, u'd be better off making hacks your primary lift and using DB Lunges instead. DB Squats just seems so dangerous especially when the weights get heavier QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 10 2012, 09:21 PM) With DB squats, the limiting factor will be how much you can hold. And seeing as your wrists are getting sore, it seems you're getting close to that limit. With hacks, You don't have to hold anything and can concentrate on using your legs. I agree with the hack squats and DB lunges combo. Thanks for the info, guys! |
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ouch ! i feel some pain when im doing some curl
when kickback, feel pain at traps ( trapezius ) when zottman curl, feel pain at arm wrist and lastly when bicep curl, left hand cant be productive as right. any advice? |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 10 2012, 10:15 PM) dat feel when u have the whole gym staring at u when ur doing heavy db presses..havent had so much attention at the gym ever.. I feel ya man. When i walked into their gym on the 27th Of March, the environment was kinda cool with awesome musics being blasted around but i have a few problems training at taylors gym as i told ya earlier. Btw, what days do you train there ? Have they got any Fixed Pulldown/Lat Pulldowns there ? ( Never realised those.)L O V E taylor's gym..epic trance music blasting..weights all available for me..fuarrkkkk need shankar and deadmau5 to train with me for full on aesthetics krew Talking about seeking attention there, i gotta admit that its the best place for one to seek attention |
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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 11 2012, 12:04 AM) about 185 i thinkQUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 11 2012, 09:34 AM) i was shouting "whoooooo,lightweight!!"..damn hyperQUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 11 2012, 12:35 PM) I feel ya man. When i walked into their gym on the 27th Of March, the environment was kinda cool with awesome musics being blasted around but i have a few problems training at taylors gym as i told ya earlier. Btw, what days do you train there ? Have they got any Fixed Pulldown/Lat Pulldowns there ? ( Never realised those.) yea..there is a lat pulldown..but kinda a weird newer type of machine..i train on tues 6pm and thurs 6.30/7pmTalking about seeking attention there, i gotta admit that its the best place for one to seek attention ohhh! the kazakh girls..niceeeee.. |
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U guys are strong
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 11 2012, 01:06 PM) U guys are strong How long did u take to reach 25? I started from 15kg to 30kg now in 5 weeks, not using dumbbell's thoThis post has been edited by deadmau5: Apr 11 2012, 02:39 PM |
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QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Apr 11 2012, 02:37 PM) How long did u take to reach 25? I started from 15kg to 30kg now in 5 weeks, not using dumbbell's tho Not remember well This post has been edited by FiragaZ: Apr 11 2012, 02:47 PM |
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Woah, 27.5kg is also a lot already.
What about your height and weight Firagaz? Curious... I'm 170cm and 64kg and I've only been using 12.5kg, pretty sure I can go heavier but the next set of dumbbells are 20kg... |
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Even CF's dumbbells stop at 40kgs.
What am I supposed to row? Miss the times when they still had 120 pounders, |
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QUOTE(strinq @ Apr 11 2012, 03:51 PM) Woah, 27.5kg is also a lot already. I am 167cm, 58kg. Actually i had tried 30kg DB Press in drop set months ago, did it at the 1st set, still manage to push 4 reps.What about your height and weight Firagaz? Curious... I'm 170cm and 64kg and I've only been using 12.5kg, pretty sure I can go heavier but the next set of dumbbells are 20kg... |
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QUOTE(strinq @ Apr 11 2012, 04:06 PM) Yes, its 30kg per dumbbell, but 3x8 27.5kg still the sweet burn spot for me. Bro, i do see you could bench 50kg from your workout journal, it seems like you had some hard time balance the dumbbell doing DB press, i pretty sure you can lift more than 20kg with the poundage of 50kg bench, just keep practice. |
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 11 2012, 04:20 PM) Yes, its 30kg per dumbbell, but 3x8 27.5kg still the sweet burn spot for me. Bro, i do see you could bench 50kg from your workout journal, it seems like you had some hard time balance the dumbbell doing DB press, i pretty sure you can lift more than 20kg with the poundage of 50kg bench, just keep practice. Yeah, maybe need someone to lift them up first lol.How much do you barbell bench then? Should be pretty high right haha. Cuz I see the big guys in my gym and they don't even go for the 30kg dumbbells when benching. |
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QUOTE(strinq @ Apr 11 2012, 04:31 PM) Yeah, maybe need someone to lift them up first lol. Unfortunately not, my bench PR is only 60KG How much do you barbell bench then? Should be pretty high right haha. Cuz I see the big guys in my gym and they don't even go for the 30kg dumbbells when benching. |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 11 2012, 04:02 PM) Even CF's dumbbells stop at 40kgs. eh i thought they go up to 100 pounds, should be 45.5kg, at least the subang one has them,What am I supposed to row? Miss the times when they still had 120 pounders, 120 pounds if i recall true fitness usj has them. This post has been edited by Cruzer: Apr 11 2012, 04:51 PM |
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Forgot to mention am restricted to 1U lol
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Darklight has a thread dedicated to him in Kopitiam. For your amusement.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2302821 |
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 11 2012, 09:10 PM) Darklight has a thread dedicated to him in Kopitiam. For your amusement. Funny shit.http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2302821 |
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 11 2012, 09:10 PM) Darklight has a thread dedicated to him in Kopitiam. For your amusement. Didn't he say he was 77kg not too long ago?http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2302821 If he was juicing, I'd put my money on him carrying a lot more mass. zyzz was 90kg after 3 years of lifting, darklight has been lifting for a lot longer than that. With that being said, I don't think any of us are in any position to judge him if he decides to get on the sauce. He's strong as hell and age might catch up to him before he manages to put on insane amounts of mass naturally. |
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Hi, anyone tried stonglifts 5x5 program? Would like to know more personal experience about it. Its seems very good getting strength and muscle, and the program explanation seems legit, but my goal is getting lean and ripped, and strength of course, rob riches and steve cook body physique is what i seeking for, not sure without the isolation exercise but only compound exercise is able to reach my goal? Because i do watch some stronglifts members video / picture, most of them seems bulk or oversize (powerlifter style), i am dilemma now
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 11 2012, 11:48 PM) Hi, anyone tried stonglifts 5x5 program? Would like to know more personal experience about it. Its seems very good getting strength and muscle, and the program explanation seems legit, but my goal is getting lean and ripped, and strength of course, rob riches and steve cook body physique is what i seeking for, not sure without the isolation exercise but only compound exercise is able to reach my goal? Because i do watch some stronglifts members video / picture, most of them seems bulk or oversize (powerlifter style), i am dilemma now I tried it some time ago for like 2-3 months and there was a definite increase in strength.And you do improve your body overall but I stopped (sheer laziness). But personally for pure muscle gain I think maybe specific daily body part exercises might be more useful (also I read about this somewhere). But then again I'm just a noob lol. |
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 11 2012, 11:48 PM) Hi, anyone tried stonglifts 5x5 program? Would like to know more personal experience about it. Its seems very good getting strength and muscle, and the program explanation seems legit, but my goal is getting lean and ripped, and strength of course, rob riches and steve cook body physique is what i seeking for, not sure without the isolation exercise but only compound exercise is able to reach my goal? Because i do watch some stronglifts members video / picture, most of them seems bulk or oversize (powerlifter style), i am dilemma now IMO, all programs are good as long as you workout. I had an injury and had to stopped carrying weights.And last 2 months, I started back with 5X5. The best thing with 5X5 is that you can get to build up strength real quick. Of course there are various methods of carrying out 5X5 it could be a few 5X5 using low,middle,heavy weight or just a 5X5 it self using low, middle, heavy weight. I myself would prefer doing just a light 5X5 for each exercise for warm up before hitting a real 5X5. And I did this for the 5 major lift during every gym session before hitting the body split. For eg. 11/4/2012 (Wednesday)- Leg Day Squat 5X5X30kg 5X5X80kg Bench Press 5X5X30kg 5X5X60kg Deadlift 5X5X30kg 5X5X80kg Shoulder Press 5X5X30kg 5X5X80kg Bent Over Row 5X5X30kg 5X5X80kg Jump Squat 5X5X20kg Front Squat 5X5X20kg Lunges wt Barbell 5X5X20kg Vertical Jump 5X5 Calf Raising 5X5X20kg This is basically how I used 5X5 with minimal rest time in between exercises. The type of body u looking for ain't "easy", they are actually big (in mass), yet ripped. But similarly the physique of powerlifter ain't just like u can get it by just eating. The dilemma is like ntg. Becos once you workout, you know it's never be easy and quick enough to get either type of body. You need to eat right,workout and rest well. Basically you have to do intense workout, eating a lot and rest well if you want to gain that type of steve cook physique. He shot a video of his workout regime in Bodybuilding.com. Feel free to check it out. |
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Apr 11 2012, 09:36 PM) Didn't he say he was 77kg not too long ago? You implying I'm old? You youngsters nowadays. when I was your age.. oh wai.......If he was juicing, I'd put my money on him carrying a lot more mass. zyzz was 90kg after 3 years of lifting, darklight has been lifting for a lot longer than that. With that being said, I don't think any of us are in any position to judge him if he decides to get on the sauce. He's strong as hell and age might catch up to him before he manages to put on insane amounts of mass naturally. |
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Guys, today had I had a really awful feeling during gym. Definitely caused by my breakfast.
Woke up at 1130pm, ate 1 bowl of cereals + 4 eggs. Rested awhile and at 1230noon, took a glass of creatine (Controlled Labs Green Magnitude). Then off to gym and started working out at 130. But had a very uncomfortable feeling on my stomach. Made me gave up on my back workout. Anyone felt like this before? |
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![]() When i do squat, i found that my Vastus Lateralis (green in the picture) respond much to that exercise and that muscle grow bigger than other. Is'nt the squat should target the muscles in quad evenly? Or my squat form is wrong? Right now i only do squat for leg exercise. Havent try leg press. This post has been edited by kicksense: Apr 12 2012, 05:18 AM |
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QUOTE Gaspari Myofusion Probiotic - is this normal? I just mixed my first two scoops of Cinnabun Myofusion in 12 ounces of skim milk about four hours ago. My initial impressions of the flavor and consistency were extremely positive. The only problem was on about my third sip, I noticed something with a completely different consistency had made its way into my mouth and subsequently into my throat. I texted my girlfriend (since I couldn't really talk/breathe properly due to the newfound obstruction) and told her to call 911. After 10 excruciating and terrifying minutes the ambulance arrived at my apartment complex. They took a quick glance at the protrusion next to my adam's apple and knew something was seriously wrong. On the way to the emergency room the EMT's, completely oblivious to the fact that I couldn't talk, kept asking me questions. After several minutes of spazzed out charades, they gave me a pen and a piece of paper on which I scribbled "Gaspari" and pointed to the branded shaker (received it for free with my order) I still had a death grip on. The EMT's looked at one another confused until the driver shouted, "Google it!" The guy who gave me the pen and paper whipped out his smartphone and started typing away. After what seemed like an eternity (he clearly wasn't used to a touch keyboard and didn't know to use Swype), he put the phone to his ear. All I could hear over my labored breathing was what sounded like a conversation with a customer service representative. The next thing I knew, we were pulled over on the side of the parkway and the EMT's were assuring me I'd be fine as they had a specialist on the way. Enraged at the thought of waiting for help as opposed to going to get help, I tried desperately to convince them to continue on to the ER. By the time I was able to plead my case on paper, I heard the whir of helicopter propellers coming to a stop right outside the ambulance. The EMT's hopped out of the ambulance to inform who I could only assume was the "specialist" of my situation. In a voice much manlier than either of the EMT's, I heard something along the lines of, "Calm down. I have dealt with this at least a dozen times in the past six months." Before either EMT could respond the doors flew open and in came an extremely muscular middle-aged man in a black polo. He pressed gently (even though it hurt like hell) on my throat and said he would need to sedate me. As he turned to ask the EMT's where they stored the anesthetics I caught a glimpse of a name tag that read, "Hi, my name is Rich. How may I help you?" Not only was I shocked that the owner of Gaspari Nutrition was in the back of an ambulance with me, I was even more shocked when I heard the EMT say they didn't restock their supplies before they left this morning. Without hesitation, Rich reached into a Gaspari gym bag and pulled out a tub of SuperPump Max and hooked it to my IV. He told me it would do nothing for the pain but the active ingredients had been clinically proven to aide in athletic performance. He yanked the tube from my IV and took a couple shots himself and then said, "Let's get to work!" I passed out at that point. When I came to approximately 45 minutes later, my throat was completely unobstructed but sore. There was no sign of Rich Gaspari or any of the Gaspari-related products in the ambulance. The only thing I was greeted with was the EMT's asking me to sign some waivers. I obliged and, while doing so, noticed my forearms were quite vascular thanks to the SuperPump Max. I asked what happened while I was unconscious and the EMT's told me that I had swallowed a live kitten and that Rich was able to remove it without damaging my esophagus AND keep it alive AND found the little girl who had lost the kitten several months ago and returned it to her! Thanking the EMT's for their help as they dropped me back off at my apartment, I reached for my keys and felt a piece of paper in my pocket. I pulled it out and it had Gaspari customer service's phone number on it. After my girlfriend got home, I decided to give them a call to see about getting a replacement tub of protein and a new shaker since mine was missing when I woke up. I spoke with what seemed to be a very nice lady named Tammy. I explained the situation and what had transpired earlier today. Upon finishing my story, Tammy began laughing hysterically. Offended by her insensitivity, I requested her supervisor. After being on hold for seven minutes, Jeff came on the line and I could tell he was already laughing too! I hung up the phone. Needless to say, I won't be purchasing any more Gaspari products in the future. Source: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143947231 |
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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ Apr 12 2012, 04:03 AM) Guys, today had I had a really awful feeling during gym. Definitely caused by my breakfast. Err, you just had a tummy ache?Woke up at 1130pm, ate 1 bowl of cereals + 4 eggs. Rested awhile and at 1230noon, took a glass of creatine (Controlled Labs Green Magnitude). Then off to gym and started working out at 130. But had a very uncomfortable feeling on my stomach. Made me gave up on my back workout. Anyone felt like this before? QUOTE(kicksense @ Apr 12 2012, 05:12 AM) ![]() When i do squat, i found that my Vastus Lateralis (green in the picture) respond much to that exercise and that muscle grow bigger than other. Is'nt the squat should target the muscles in quad evenly? Or my squat form is wrong? Right now i only do squat for leg exercise. Havent try leg press. @swk: I don't get it. Rp story ah lol |
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QUOTE(kicksense @ Apr 12 2012, 05:12 AM) When i do squat, i found that my Vastus Lateralis (green in the picture) respond much to that exercise and that muscle grow bigger than other. It's the same for me.Is'nt the squat should target the muscles in quad evenly? Or my squat form is wrong? Right now i only do squat for leg exercise. Havent try leg press. So I kinda balance it out with machine leg curls which seem to affect my vastus medialis (blue) more. When I do both, my whole thigh gets really sore evenly. |
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Apr 12 2012, 07:58 AM) Meh, not the best. There have been better stories. |
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i cant revive back the old thread so i just put it here
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 10 2012, 11:28 PM) Sweet, nice range of weights! Sorry for the late reply again. Actually I dun intend to do heavy weight lifting, just want some muscles on my arm Okay, forget all that. Lifting weights is not going to stunt your growth. Stunted growth is due to damage to growth plates. There's no impact involved in lifting weights. If you lift properly with good form, it may even help you grow that little bit more because it can stimulate the release of growth hormones. You're 15, your hormone levels are gonna get even higher in the coming years, so might as well make use of that and get stronger and fitter. http://stronglifts.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/ http://skinnybulkup.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/ If you're worried about your height, there are other things you should be thinking about, instead of the type of exercise you do. Are you eating right? Are you sleeping enough? These things are more likely to have an effect on your overall growth that whether you play football or lift weights. Regarding other factors, I eat -Oats for breakfast -Mixed rice (got vege and meat la) for recess about 2 or 3 out of 5 days, the other 2 or 3 can be anything. -Lunch if got other school activities then mixed rice again. If eat at home then bread / maggi mee / leftover food from last night's dinner which consists of meat + vege + rice at least. -Dinner then also same lor meat + vege + rice + others(egg/tofu...) So is it balanced enough? Regarding the amount of sleep, how many hours is enough? I think I have lack of sleep, on weekdays 6 hrs on average. Weekends can be 6-12 hrs. Ok or not? QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 10 2012, 11:41 PM) well..to be honest i lifted dumbells overhead to stunt my growth last time..did it for maybe 3months when i was in form 2 or 3.. I heard many people said that long afternoon naps are bad for u, any idea why? broscience or not it somewhat worked as i did not grow that much after that..maybe it was just coincidence.. im 190cm now..so if u wanna grow tall just sleep alot man..take that afternoon nap after school..i slept from like 3-7pm everyday Added on April 12, 2012, 5:59 pm QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 11 2012, 12:40 PM) about 185 i think 185?? So tall?? I thought people who are already that tall at 15 usually won't grow so much anymore, so how to conclude your earlier post? Any idea?i was shouting "whoooooo,lightweight!!"..damn hyper yea..there is a lat pulldown..but kinda a weird newer type of machine..i train on tues 6pm and thurs 6.30/7pm ohhh! the kazakh girls..niceeeee.. This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Apr 12 2012, 06:00 PM |
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Apr 12 2012, 05:56 PM) Added on April 12, 2012, 5:59 pm 185?? So tall?? I thought people who are already that tall at 15 usually won't grow so much anymore, so how to conclude your earlier post? Any idea? I'm only 172cm/65kg |
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Apr 12 2012, 05:56 PM) Regarding the amount of sleep, how many hours is enough? I think I have lack of sleep, on weekdays 6 hrs on average. Weekends can be 6-12 hrs. Ok or not? No idea..u can conclude what u want from it..among my group of 5 friends i was the tallest in form 3..I heard many people said that long afternoon naps are bad for u, any idea why? Added on April 12, 2012, 5:59 pm 185?? So tall?? I thought people who are already that tall at 15 usually won't grow so much anymore, so how to conclude your earlier post? Any idea? all of us were 175cm above in form 3..now im the 3rd tallest..lol QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 PM) Walao if u didn't stun ur growth in form3, means u can grow even more, since u only grew like 5cm after that? Like i said..maybe yes,maybe no..my friends who did not lift overtook me in heightI'm only 172cm/65kg |
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Anyone here know if the HELP Residency flats have a gym or something?
I don't stay there, but it'd be very convenient if they did (have a gym). I could find out myself, but I don't have any classes until Monday, so I figured I'd ask here first. |
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Apr 13 2012, 12:24 AM) Anyone here know if the HELP Residency flats have a gym or something? I don't stay at HELP Residence, but I roughly know the area. If I'm not wrong, there's a Celebrity Fitness in Bangsar Village, and also Fitness First near the HP Tower, near Wisma HELP.I don't stay there, but it'd be very convenient if they did (have a gym). I could find out myself, but I don't have any classes until Monday, so I figured I'd ask here first. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 12 2012, 08:30 AM) Err, you just had a tummy ache? Tq mike. That's really help me. Squats is not the same for everyone. Hits more for different areas for different people. In any case if your leg is growing shouldn't be any complaints right? @swk: I don't get it. Rp story ah lol p/s: sometime reading alot can make ppl confuse. |
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Hi guys,
just wanted to ask, anyone using wrist wrap? is it useful? kindly share your experience.. |
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Apr 13 2012, 12:24 AM) Anyone here know if the HELP Residency flats have a gym or something? I don't stay there, but it'd be very convenient if they did (have a gym). I could find out myself, but I don't have any classes until Monday, so I figured I'd ask here first. QUOTE(harris92 @ Apr 13 2012, 12:54 AM) I don't stay at HELP Residence, but I roughly know the area. If I'm not wrong, there's a Celebrity Fitness in Bangsar Village, and also Fitness First near the HP Tower, near Wisma HELP. There's also CHi Fitness in Bangsar Shopping Center. |
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QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 PM) Walao if u didn't stun ur growth in form3, means u can grow even more, since u only grew like 5cm after that? I form 5 still 168cm I'm only 172cm/65kg I think i'm a late bloomer though. QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 12 2012, 11:50 PM) No idea..u can conclude what u want from it..among my group of 5 friends i was the tallest in form 3.. You guys realize that the lifting makes you short myth is fake right ? all of us were 175cm above in form 3..now im the 3rd tallest..lol Like i said..maybe yes,maybe no..my friends who did not lift overtook me in height |
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Falk B, Eliakim A. Pediatr Endocrinol Rev. 2003 Dec;1(2):120-7.
[Resistance training, skeletal muscle and growth.] Resistance training in youth and its effectiveness, possible effect on growth and safety considerations, has received considerable public and scientific attention in recent years. Although few early studies questioned the usefulness of resistance training in children, numerous recent studies have demonstrated its effectiveness in both children and adolescents. Nevertheless, the optimal intensity and volume of training for youths of different ages requires further study. The increase in strength following resistance training in youths, especially in prepubertal children, is believed to be due mainly to neural adaptations and only minimally, if at all, to muscle hypertrophy. Few studies have examined the long-term effect of resistance training on growth. The few which have, found that, contrary to the common misconception that resistance training may retard growth. Scientific evidence indicates that resistance training results in increased serum IGF-I and that there is no detrimental effect on linear growth. Finally, numerous studies have demonstrated that with appropriate supervision and precautions, resistance training can be safe and effective for children and adolescents. |
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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Apr 13 2012, 01:41 PM) Falk B, Eliakim A. Pediatr Endocrinol Rev. 2003 Dec;1(2):120-7. As usual, darkseifer sifu answer our questions [Resistance training, skeletal muscle and growth.] Resistance training in youth and its effectiveness, possible effect on growth and safety considerations, has received considerable public and scientific attention in recent years. Although few early studies questioned the usefulness of resistance training in children, numerous recent studies have demonstrated its effectiveness in both children and adolescents. Nevertheless, the optimal intensity and volume of training for youths of different ages requires further study. The increase in strength following resistance training in youths, especially in prepubertal children, is believed to be due mainly to neural adaptations and only minimally, if at all, to muscle hypertrophy. Few studies have examined the long-term effect of resistance training on growth. The few which have, found that, contrary to the common misconception that resistance training may retard growth. Scientific evidence indicates that resistance training results in increased serum IGF-I and that there is no detrimental effect on linear growth. Finally, numerous studies have demonstrated that with appropriate supervision and precautions, resistance training can be safe and effective for children and adolescents. |
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Hey guys, do you do narrow grip bench press? Will it help in buiding inner chest muscles? I'm disappointed with my inner chest. Any tips?
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 13 2012, 03:39 PM) Hmm I think the 'narrow grip bench press' you are referring to is close grip where the distance from both your hands would be approx an inch. The narrow grip I am referring to the distance grip at approx shoulder width. Example below :![]() |
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Guys in the gym I go to,there is only a Smith Machine and the one like in the pic above posted by elvenchou1987 for bench press.So if I want do squats,I don't want to use the Smith Machine as I heard it's bad.So how should I get the barbell to my shoulders?
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Apr 13 2012, 06:47 PM) Guys in the gym I go to,there is only a Smith Machine and the one like in the pic above posted by elvenchou1987 for bench press.So if I want do squats,I don't want to use the Smith Machine as I heard it's bad.So how should I get the barbell to my shoulders? dont use the fixed bar..ie the one on smithuse "free" bar but put it on one of the barbell rest of smith machine..(the spike2 thing u see on the pic) from there you can rest it on your shoulder and lift it up quite easily then when u want to put it back also easy....if you find it quite hard...ask someone to help ![]() |
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Apr 13 2012, 07:09 PM) dont use the fixed bar..ie the one on smith That's a good idea,but the Smith Machine in my gym doesn't have those spikes.Actually I'm not sure,but I think it doesn't. Sorry I'm new to all theseuse "free" bar but put it on one of the barbell rest of smith machine..(the spike2 thing u see on the pic) from there you can rest it on your shoulder and lift it up quite easily then when u want to put it back also easy....if you find it quite hard...ask someone to help ![]() The one in my gym looks something like this:Smith Machine This post has been edited by bigbangformula: Apr 13 2012, 07:16 PM |
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Apr 13 2012, 07:09 PM) dont use the fixed bar..ie the one on smith mind explaining the bold-ed part?use "free" bar but put it on one of the barbell rest of smith machine..(the spike2 thing u see on the pic) from there you can rest it on your shoulder and lift it up quite easily then when u want to put it back also easy....if you find it quite hard...ask someone to help ![]() becazuse it allows movement in a fixed plane of motion? This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 13 2012, 10:20 PM |
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Apr 13 2012, 07:13 PM) That's a good idea,but the Smith Machine in my gym doesn't have those spikes.Actually I'm not sure,but I think it doesn't. Sorry I'm new to all these I had the exactly same facility in my hostel gym. Just carry it overhead and rest on shoulders. This why I squat maximum only 50kg. That the max weight I can afford carry it overhead and land safely. Tried 60kg which almost kill me when I try to deload it from shoulder. Compensate the load, I do more reps and sets. Added in power clean and hang clean sort of power lift.The one in my gym looks something like this:Smith Machine My friend who trained taekwondo choose to use the rack for bench press as the short squat rack. If we train together, then we help each other to load and deload then we afford heavier loads. We bare with the facilities since we dun pay for it and we can use it like 24/7. |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 13 2012, 10:17 PM) Yes, most of the Smith Machines allow movement in fixed plane of motion which is a vertical up and down motion.In contrast, when we are squatting,bench pressing,deadlifting (the normal workouts that we use smith machines to), the barbell motion ain't just a vertical up and down. It may be slanted following the anatomy of the body part. Hence, the range of motion of Smith's somehow restricted the motion of the person who workout.Which may somehow put unnecessary pressure on the back or knee (during squatting), wrist and elbow (when bench pressing). But I myself do use smith machine for squatting and lunges occasionally. |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 13 2012, 10:17 PM) QUOTE(van_takawa @ Apr 13 2012, 10:28 PM) Yes, most of the Smith Machines allow movement in fixed plane of motion which is a vertical up and down motion.In contrast, when we are squatting,bench pressing,deadlifting (the normal workouts that we use smith machines to), the barbell motion ain't just a vertical up and down. It may be slanted following the anatomy of the body part. Hence, the range of motion of Smith's somehow restricted the motion of the person who workout. van_takawa already answered the questionWhich may somehow put unnecessary pressure on the back or knee (during squatting), wrist and elbow (when bench pressing). But I myself do use smith machine for squatting and lunges occasionally. Im not an expert but when i was started working out, i used smith machine for my BP and squat I had difficulties in movement, it doesnt align correctly...if i may put it that way when i change to normal barbell, i feel that my workout is better |
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There's nothing wrong with squatting in the smith machine. Just place your feet further forwards and mimic a hack squat movement.
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Apr 13 2012, 10:18 PM) I had the exactly same facility in my hostel gym. Just carry it overhead and rest on shoulders. This why I squat maximum only 50kg. That the max weight I can afford carry it overhead and land safely. Tried 60kg which almost kill me when I try to deload it from shoulder. Compensate the load, I do more reps and sets. Added in power clean and hang clean sort of power lift. I did thought of lifting overheard too,but is it safe to do so?I won't be lifting so heavy though,I'm just starting out in a gym.So maybe I will be starting off with 5KG plates on each side? My friend who trained taekwondo choose to use the rack for bench press as the short squat rack. If we train together, then we help each other to load and deload then we afford heavier loads. We bare with the facilities since we dun pay for it and we can use it like 24/7. QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 13 2012, 11:35 PM) There's nothing wrong with squatting in the smith machine. Just place your feet further forwards and mimic a hack squat movement. So is it ok to do squats and bench presses with the smith machine?I read a few stuff on the internet saying it's bad. |
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Apr 13 2012, 11:58 PM) I did thought of lifting overheard too,but is it safe to do so?I won't be lifting so heavy though,I'm just starting out in a gym.So maybe I will be starting off with 5KG plates on each side? Dan did said that Hack Squat is alright but it's not advisable for back squat. Most important is u feel good. Lifting overhead is danger especially when ur posture get wrong.Imagine moving a heavy weight (eg.20kg) on the floor over top of head is like more than 1.7m, which may cause serious force on certain joint or worst ur back.I did saw my friend who try to imitate what I do get injured.Strength is relative, I not sure whether u can lift 5kg aside or not, but if u can lift them overhead comfortably, y not?So is it ok to do squats and bench presses with the smith machine?I read a few stuff on the internet saying it's bad. U said ur gym had a bench and a rack, use that for bench press. For squat, do a hack squat on smith machine as what Dan suggest or just a barbell squat. In case you don't know, another good replacement for squat will be lunges. There are normal lunges, step back lunges, side lunges, toe raise lunges. They all work ur quads. If u really enjoy and want to squat, there are wall squat (both leg or more advanced single leg), jump squat, front barbell squat, dumbell squat. U can do these squats without weight or with weight, and for beginner and even intermediate (even my friend who is a state volleyball player) feel the quad's burn as long as you do it correctly and a slow-high tempo. Workout and exercises is just working out ur muscles more active and intense than what you normally do. Variations can always be done to fadapt and fit in to made u feel happy working out. As long as there is an improvement, good enough.Happy workout. |
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Apr 14 2012, 12:12 AM) Dan did said that Hack Squat is alright but it's not advisable for back squat. Most important is u feel good. Lifting overhead is danger especially when ur posture get wrong.Imagine moving a heavy weight (eg.20kg) on the floor over top of head is like more than 1.7m, which may cause serious force on certain joint or worst ur back.I did saw my friend who try to imitate what I do get injured.Strength is relative, I not sure whether u can lift 5kg aside or not, but if u can lift them overhead comfortably, y not? Maybe a friend can help me to lift it to my shoulders? U said ur gym had a bench and a rack, use that for bench press. For squat, do a hack squat on smith machine as what Dan suggest or just a barbell squat. In case you don't know, another good replacement for squat will be lunges. There are normal lunges, step back lunges, side lunges, toe raise lunges. They all work ur quads. If u really enjoy and want to squat, there are wall squat (both leg or more advanced single leg), jump squat, front barbell squat, dumbell squat. U can do these squats without weight or with weight, and for beginner and even intermediate (even my friend who is a state volleyball player) feel the quad's burn as long as you do it correctly and a slow-high tempo. Workout and exercises is just working out ur muscles more active and intense than what you normally do. Variations can always be done to fadapt and fit in to made u feel happy working out. As long as there is an improvement, good enough.Happy workout. I used to do dumbbell squats,but only with a pair of 5KG dumbbells...actually I'm still looking around for a good routine..my aim is to be more muscular,especially in my arms which are super skinny,and also better in my sprinting.My track events is in July. I can train about 2-3x a week. |
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Apr 14 2012, 12:22 AM) Maybe a friend can help me to lift it to my shoulders? how young r u? wad u taking part in?I used to do dumbbell squats,but only with a pair of 5KG dumbbells...actually I'm still looking around for a good routine..my aim is to be more muscular,especially in my arms which are super skinny,and also better in my sprinting.My track events is in July. I can train about 2-3x a week. |
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Apr 14 2012, 12:48 AM) Basically I should be doing compound stuff like squats,deadlifts and all that right?What do u guys think of this routine: BB.com Male Teen Routine |
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Apr 14 2012, 12:50 AM) Basically I should be doing compound stuff like squats,deadlifts and all that right? It depends on what ur goal. Sum wan greater strength or body they start wif compound lift. But if u wan sprinter type of training, they do squat and some lifting but most of the time running n sprinting training. The routine is good or i should say all program n routine is good if u follow strictly.What do u guys think of this routine: BB.com Male Teen Routine |
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 10 2012, 11:28 PM) Sweet, nice range of weights! Okay, forget all that. Lifting weights is not going to stunt your growth. Stunted growth is due to damage to growth plates. There's no impact involved in lifting weights. If you lift properly with good form, it may even help you grow that little bit more because it can stimulate the release of growth hormones. You're 15, your hormone levels are gonna get even higher in the coming years, so might as well make use of that and get stronger and fitter. http://stronglifts.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/ http://skinnybulkup.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/ If you're worried about your height, there are other things you should be thinking about, instead of the type of exercise you do. Are you eating right? Are you sleeping enough? These things are more likely to have an effect on your overall growth that whether you play football or lift weights. QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Apr 12 2012, 05:56 PM) Sorry for the late reply again. Actually I dun intend to do heavy weight lifting, just want some muscles on my arm Is my food intake alright?Regarding other factors, I eat -Oats for breakfast -Mixed rice (got vege and meat la) for recess about 2 or 3 out of 5 days, the other 2 or 3 can be anything. -Lunch if got other school activities then mixed rice again. If eat at home then bread / maggi mee / leftover food from last night's dinner which consists of meat + vege + rice at least. -Dinner then also same lor meat + vege + rice + others(egg/tofu...) So is it balanced enough? Regarding the amount of sleep, how many hours is enough? I think I have lack of sleep, on weekdays 6 hrs on average. Weekends can be 6-12 hrs. Ok or not? I heard many people said that long afternoon naps are bad for u, any idea why? Added on April 12, 2012, 5:59 pm 185?? So tall?? I thought people who are already that tall at 15 usually won't grow so much anymore, so how to conclude your earlier post? Any idea? |
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Morning peeps! I'm hitting my arms today but my tris are still sore resulting from narrow grip chest days(2 days ago). Is it okay if I just train my bi today and skip my tri?
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QUOTE(synchun @ Apr 14 2012, 10:04 AM) Morning peeps! I'm hitting my arms today but my tris are still sore resulting from narrow grip chest days(2 days ago). Is it okay if I just train my bi today and skip my tri? Umm, why did u do close grip two days ago? Its a triceps exercise. But anyhow 2 days is enough rest, I would say hit them again. Unless u got a delt day coming up. |
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QUOTE(synchun @ Apr 14 2012, 10:04 AM) Morning peeps! I'm hitting my arms today but my tris are still sore resulting from narrow grip chest days(2 days ago). Is it okay if I just train my bi today and skip my tri? Like Mike said, it's 2 days, u can just hit ur arm as in whole. U can start with very light weight to warm ur tris, and add in weight accordingly, once it's warmed I guess it should be fine.Or u can try to work ur bicep first then ur tris. Since they work antagonist,U may feel better throughout the workout. Just my personal experience though. |
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Hi guys. Time for some form check. Kindly request corrections from you guys to help me improve. I noticed with the hack squat that i need to lower my shoulders. Apart from that, are there other mistakes?
Bench press http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA80mJp0_VU For the bench press I was lying on 2 pillows, 1 supporting the shoulders and neck and another supporting the hips. Lol at the set up though Hack squat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MFabNfXDg Row http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PKZWL4y60 Hope you guys don't mind the lightweight, that's really what i can manage for now. Thank you in advance! This post has been edited by Galant: Apr 14 2012, 12:59 PM |
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QUOTE(Galant @ Apr 14 2012, 12:21 PM) Hi guys. Time for some form check. Kindly request corrections from you guys to help me improve. I noticed with the hack squat that i need to lower my shoulders. Apart from that, are there other mistakes? Do u feel the tension on the chest when u bench press?Bench press http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA80mJp0_VU Hack squat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MFabNfXDg Row http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PKZWL4y60 Hope you guys don't mind the lightweight, that's really what i can manage for now. Thank you in advance! Do u feel uncomfortable on your knee when u hack squat? Do u feel umcomfortable at ur back when u row? These are the questions u need to know becos it will tell u whether or not u r doin something wrong. Just my own experience, I cant feel much when lying on the floor doing bench press and I'm not sure whether u had a feeling of tucking in ur elbow which I think u should. And I think u bend a little bit much on back for the rowing. Well, just my own opinions, let's hear frm other big bros. |
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Thanks, van_takawa
Do u feel the tension on the chest when u bench press? Yup, but not much. Maybe it's because it's too light? i kinda feel more tension on the forearms Do u feel uncomfortable on your knee when u hack squat? Not really Do u feel umcomfortable at ur back when u row? Can feel some tension, but I think it's the muscles working, no? I don't really understand what you meant by the 'tucking' feeling, but if there's any sensation on the elbows it's only at the beginning of the press. And yeah, now that you mention it, i do notice that i overbent on the row. Should be flat. Maybe i need a mirror next time coz difficult to agak2 properly. Thanks again! |
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QUOTE(Galant @ Apr 14 2012, 01:18 PM) Thanks, van_takawa Rename your exercises.Do u feel the tension on the chest when u bench press? Yup, but not much. Maybe it's because it's too light? i kinda feel more tension on the forearms Do u feel uncomfortable on your knee when u hack squat? Not really Do u feel umcomfortable at ur back when u row? Can feel some tension, but I think it's the muscles working, no? I don't really understand what you meant by the 'tucking' feeling, but if there's any sensation on the elbows it's only at the beginning of the press. And yeah, now that you mention it, i do notice that i overbent on the row. Should be flat. Maybe i need a mirror next time coz difficult to agak2 properly. Thanks again! Floor presses, sissy squats, pendlay rows. Generally your form is fine on all three, imo. Youtube the exercises i mentioned to see other people do it and check for forms there |
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Hi guys,
Did anyone here tried Stronglifts 5x5 ? Is it works? Effective? |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 14 2012, 01:47 PM) Rename your exercises. Thanks mike. Floor presses, sissy squats, pendlay rows. Generally your form is fine on all three, imo. Youtube the exercises i mentioned to see other people do it and check for forms there About the squat i made, it's quite different from the sissy squats i saw. Those involve a kind of bent back, limbo rock movement. http://www.muscleandstrength.com/exercises/sissy-squat.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRUZQYh4cEs While the one i perform was similar to the hack squat described at bb.com http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/deta...bell-hack-squat Perhaps you were referring to another type of sissy squat? Or was the way I doing the hack squat resembled sissy? Thanks |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 14 2012, 07:06 PM) IMO, beginner should start something like SL 5X5 to improve strength first before go into isolation exercises. the only thing that matters for building muscle is gaining strength, no? Correct me if Im wrong. This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 14 2012, 09:19 PM |
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Lol, not sure where I should post this.
Since I changed my diet to fit at least 1g protein per pound bodyweight, my pee has been quite consistently light yellow. I've been drinking a lot of water since before I change my diet and most of the time it would be near colourless. I'm drinking as much or more water since the diet change. (I'm pretty sure my intake is sufficient) Would it be a good indicator of me taking enough protein? (as in there's access being converted to nitrogen and released) Just a purely curious question. This post has been edited by strinq: Apr 15 2012, 03:20 PM |
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QUOTE(strinq @ Apr 15 2012, 03:15 PM) Lol, not sure where I should post this. Hmm, just my 2 cents, I think the colour also depends on how frequent you drink as well as the quantity. If you spread out the water intake more evenly, I think even you have enough protein, the colour will be clear.Since I changed my diet to fit at least 1g protein per pound bodyweight, my pee has been quite consistently light yellow. I've been drinking a lot of water since before I change my diet and most of the time it would be near colourless. I'm drinking as much or more water since the diet change. (I'm pretty sure my intake is sufficient) Would it be a good indicator of me taking enough protein? (as in there's access being converted to nitrogen and released) Just a purely curious question. |
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QUOTE(Galant @ Apr 15 2012, 04:22 PM) Hmm, just my 2 cents, I think the colour also depends on how frequent you drink as well as the quantity. If you spread out the water intake more evenly, I think even you have enough protein, the colour will be clear. Yeah, I think I do spread it out pretty equally.I don't drink like a large amount in one sitting then don't drink for a few hours. |
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EH what website u guys use to find the amount of protein, fats and carbs in a certain food ?
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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 15 2012, 05:33 PM) My Fitness Pal has a very nice database, even a section with tonnes of Malaysian food:http://www.myfitnesspal.com/nutrition-fact.../malaysian-food For Android and iPhone users, get their app its free and does a good job keep track of your nutrition count for the day. |
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Guys is a full-body routine good?Any example of a full-body routine I can do?
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QUOTE(Galant @ Apr 14 2012, 08:10 PM) Thanks mike. Oh my bad man, got the wrong term. Guess youre doing hack squats lol.About the squat i made, it's quite different from the sissy squats i saw. Those involve a kind of bent back, limbo rock movement. http://www.muscleandstrength.com/exercises/sissy-squat.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRUZQYh4cEs While the one i perform was similar to the hack squat described at bb.com http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/deta...bell-hack-squat Perhaps you were referring to another type of sissy squat? Or was the way I doing the hack squat resembled sissy? Thanks On a side note, loaded an extra 10kg on the smith by mistake during a flat bench press today lol. Got the first rep and totaly failed the second. Good thing there was one person nearby, cos i was effin stuck! Lesson of the day: try not to train when youre sick, you end to not focus enough! Edit: was on the smith so it wasnt so bad This post has been edited by mikehuan: Apr 15 2012, 08:55 PM |
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QUOTE(JustForTrade @ Apr 14 2012, 06:34 PM) I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5 when I'm started my journey in weightlifting. I like it and the mass gain and strength gain is good. But currently I'm adjusting my workout a bit. Removing OHP (I'm sucks at OHP) and adding dips and chin up, lateral raise, front raise and rear lateral raise. I started with a friend and he stopped doing SL 5x5 for unknown reasons and started doing isolation exercise such as bicep curl, preacher curl and stopped entirely doing squat and deadlift (large upper body mentality) and guess what, I'm having a much better result than him although he uses mass gainers and whey and I didn't. Maybe genetics play part in that, maybe no. I don't know but I'm very sure that workout differences is the main cause. |
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For muscle definition
Let's just say today is Biceps, Back and Abs day 8-10 reps, 4 sets per exercise Do i do it Biceps, Back, Abs, Biceps, Back, Abs, Biceps, Back, Abs OR Biceps Biceps Biceps, Back Back Back, Abs Abs Abs? Total exercise per session = 9 Thanks! |
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I have a question but before that, this is what I know.
To gain mass, we need to have calorie surplus. To lose weight, we need to have calorie deficit. We cannot gain mass without adding a little bit of fat. Low calorie deficit burn fat, extreme calorie deficit burn fat + muscle. My question is: Why do I lose my hard earn muscle although I do gain fat? These are some info: 1. Been taking fat burner for 4 weeks and managed to lose 6 kg of fats. 2. During my 4 weeks cutting phase, I'm on low-carb and low-calorie diet. 3. Stopped taking the fat burner for a week (6/4 - 13/4). 4. During that one week, I only managed to workout once on 9/4. 5. During that one week, I didn't controlled my diet. I ate fast foods, potatoes, a bit of rice, mee hoon, kuey teow (have some calorie surplus every day). 6. On 6/4, my weight was 95.1kg and I have 33.5 kg of muscle mass, 35.9 kg of fat and fat free mass of 59.2 kg. 7. On 13/4, my weight was 93.8 kg and I have 32.4 kg of muscle mass, 36.7 kg of fat and fat free mass of 57.1 kg. 8. Total weight loss = 1.3 kg, total muscle mass loss = 1.1 kg, total fat gain = 0.8 kg, total fat free mass loss = 2.1 kg. This post has been edited by alien9: Apr 16 2012, 02:47 AM |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Apr 16 2012, 03:03 AM) For muscle definition type 1Let's just say today is Biceps, Back and Abs day 8-10 reps, 4 sets per exercise Do i do it Biceps, Back, Abs, Biceps, Back, Abs, Biceps, Back, Abs OR Biceps Biceps Biceps, Back Back Back, Abs Abs Abs? Total exercise per session = 9 Thanks! bicep,back abs you will feel hard to do back once your bicep is fired up type 2 back bicep abs is better P/S newbie cant do this as their bicep is not well conditioned after it is being used at back workout, well, you try first, if you cant do bicep workout after back, then shift to back tricep type 3 back,bicep,back bicep this hit the bicep hard... you can cheat a bit.. e.g. bicep curl, lat pull down, precher curl, then can do back flyer(where usage of bicep is minimal), then back to concentration curl in the nutshell there is no right or wrong, just how you strategy and hit your muscle This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Apr 16 2012, 11:15 AM |
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Apr 16 2012, 10:45 AM) type 1 I always to back, biceps and absbicep,back abs you will feel hard to do back once your bicep is fired up type 2 back bicep abs is better P/S newbie cant do this as their bicep is not well conditioned after it is being used at back workout, well, you try first, if you cant do bicep workout after back, then shift to back tricep in the nutshell there is no right or wrong, just how you strategy and hit your muscle Chest, triceps and shoulders What is the best advice you'd give me for muscle definition? |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 16 2012, 02:46 AM) I have a question but before that, this is what I know. where did u get that calculation?and did u consume enough protein during that time?To gain mass, we need to have calorie surplus. To lose weight, we need to have calorie deficit. We cannot gain mass without adding a little bit of fat. Low calorie deficit burn fat, extreme calorie deficit burn fat + muscle. My question is: Why do I lose my hard earn muscle although I do gain fat? These are some info: 1. Been taking fat burner for 4 weeks and managed to lose 6 kg of fats. 2. During my 4 weeks cutting phase, I'm on low-carb and low-calorie diet. 3. Stopped taking the fat burner for a week (6/4 - 13/4). 4. During that one week, I only managed to workout once on 9/4. 5. During that one week, I didn't controlled my diet. I ate fast foods, potatoes, a bit of rice, mee hoon, kuey teow (have some calorie surplus every day). 6. On 6/4, my weight was 95.1kg and I have 33.5 kg of muscle mass, 35.9 kg of fat and fat free mass of 59.2 kg. 7. On 13/4, my weight was 93.8 kg and I have 32.4 kg of muscle mass, 36.7 kg of fat and fat free mass of 57.1 kg. 8. Total weight loss = 1.3 kg, total muscle mass loss = 1.1 kg, total fat gain = 0.8 kg, total fat free mass loss = 2.1 kg. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 16 2012, 02:46 AM) I have a question but before that, this is what I know. Gain weight too fast, most of it will be fats.To gain mass, we need to have calorie surplus. To lose weight, we need to have calorie deficit. We cannot gain mass without adding a little bit of fat. Low calorie deficit burn fat, extreme calorie deficit burn fat + muscle. My question is: Why do I lose my hard earn muscle although I do gain fat? These are some info: 1. Been taking fat burner for 4 weeks and managed to lose 6 kg of fats. 2. During my 4 weeks cutting phase, I'm on low-carb and low-calorie diet. 3. Stopped taking the fat burner for a week (6/4 - 13/4). 4. During that one week, I only managed to workout once on 9/4. 5. During that one week, I didn't controlled my diet. I ate fast foods, potatoes, a bit of rice, mee hoon, kuey teow (have some calorie surplus every day). 6. On 6/4, my weight was 95.1kg and I have 33.5 kg of muscle mass, 35.9 kg of fat and fat free mass of 59.2 kg. 7. On 13/4, my weight was 93.8 kg and I have 32.4 kg of muscle mass, 36.7 kg of fat and fat free mass of 57.1 kg. 8. Total weight loss = 1.3 kg, total muscle mass loss = 1.1 kg, total fat gain = 0.8 kg, total fat free mass loss = 2.1 kg. Lose weight too fast, you'll lose lean mass And you should concentrate on losing weight. Seriously QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 16 2012, 01:04 PM) All those muscle mass, fat mass info? My gym have an InBody machine. Yes, I do consume enough protein during the week albeit I didn't keep a record of what I ate. Problem right there. Unless you're as experienced as Darklight, you should keep track of what u eat. |
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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 16 2012, 05:09 PM) Yes man, I do know about that but how come my fat mass increase while muscle mass decrease? Protein intake too low?QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 16 2012, 05:09 PM) Been living in 'fat' situations for 22 years and now I know that I need to trim all that fat away. This is my journey to become jacked and ripped. Haha |
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Hey guys, imma beginner who is looking for a program to start with. So, I have been working out with a trainer for almost 2 months now (lost almost 6kg in weight) and my sessions are almost finished. So i was looking at 5x5 and westside but im worried about safety and form cos i'll be working out without a spotter. So i looked for programs involving more machines and stumbled upon this. What do you guys think about the program. My aim here is still to cut.
Source: bodybuilding.com Monday - Chest, Biceps Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Upper Pectorals Incline Press Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Pectorals Smith Machine Flat Bench Press 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Pectorals Pec Fly Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Biceps Bicep Curl Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Biceps Preacher Curl Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Tuesday - Back Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Latissimus Dorsi Lat Pulldown 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Latissimus Dorsi Smith Machine Bent Over Row 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Latissimus Dorsi Compound Row Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Lower Back Lower Back Extension Machine 3 15 60-90 sec Wednesday - Rest Day Thusday - Legs Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Hamstrings Smith Machine Stiff-Legged Deadlift 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Hamstrings Seated Leg Curl 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Hamstrings Lying Leg Curl 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Quadriceps Leg Extension 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Quadriceps Incline Leg Press 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Quadriceps Smith Machine Squat 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Friday - Traps, Abs, Neck Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Traps Smith Machine Upright Row 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Traps Deadlift/Shrug Machine 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Abs Machine Crunch 3 25 60-90 sec Neck 4-Way Neck Machine 3 15 60-90 sec Saturday - Shoulders, Triceps Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Front Deltoids Smith Machine Shoulder Press 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Side Deltoids Seated Machine Lateral Raise 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Rear Deltoids Rear Delt Fly Machine 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Triceps Close-Grip Bench Press 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Triceps Triceps Extension Machine 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Sunday - Rest |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 16 2012, 08:59 PM) Yes man, I do know about that but how come my fat mass increase while muscle mass decrease? Protein intake too low? You must be doing something wrong though I can't say what is wrong with ur diet or workouts.Been living in 'fat' situations for 22 years and now I know that I need to trim all that fat away. This is my journey to become jacked and ripped. Haha LOw protein intake may be the cause. How much protein are u taking now ? |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 16 2012, 08:59 PM) Yes man, I do know about that but how come my fat mass increase while muscle mass decrease? Protein intake too low? Hey brother, figures as in ur body stats are just figures. Things can be wrong, mirror is always the better indicator.Been living in 'fat' situations for 22 years and now I know that I need to trim all that fat away. This is my journey to become jacked and ripped. Haha But please be aware that you lose ur muscle and ur fat free mass which means it could be skeletal muscle, water or bone, but u gain fat. So in this case, you need do check back your whole diet and even workout. Because it's not a correct situation when u try to lose fat but gained fat and go opposite losing ur fat free mass and muscle mass (losing bone mass is even worst than losing muscle mass). Do not over rely on fat burner (I'm not sure how ur workout is) and do aware when it come to fat losing, ur body is smart enough, that u can depress or surpress it by using a lot fat burners but it will somehow counterback. And once you lose control then it gains more than what it lost. It's not practical to lose 6kg in a month (exclude the biggest losers) and it's even much more harder when it come to 6kg of fat (how much total mass could you have lost then) in a month? Fighting fat is a long journey, do not be too harsh to ur body. Eat right,Work hard,rest well and be positive. Added on April 17, 2012, 12:48 am QUOTE(confusedkid @ Apr 16 2012, 09:45 PM) Hey guys, imma beginner who is looking for a program to start with. So, I have been working out with a trainer for almost 2 months now (lost almost 6kg in weight) and my sessions are almost finished. So i was looking at 5x5 and westside but im worried about safety and form cos i'll be working out without a spotter. So i looked for programs involving more machines and stumbled upon this. What do you guys think about the program. My aim here is still to cut. Some of these machines i dun even seen it before like machine crunch,4 way neck machine.Source: bodybuilding.com Monday - Chest, Biceps Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Upper Pectorals Incline Press Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Pectorals Smith Machine Flat Bench Press 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Pectorals Pec Fly Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Biceps Bicep Curl Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Biceps Preacher Curl Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Tuesday - Back Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Latissimus Dorsi Lat Pulldown 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Latissimus Dorsi Smith Machine Bent Over Row 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Latissimus Dorsi Compound Row Machine 3 12, 8, 6 60-90 sec Lower Back Lower Back Extension Machine 3 15 60-90 sec Wednesday - Rest Day Thusday - Legs Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Hamstrings Smith Machine Stiff-Legged Deadlift 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Hamstrings Seated Leg Curl 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Hamstrings Lying Leg Curl 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Quadriceps Leg Extension 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Quadriceps Incline Leg Press 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Quadriceps Smith Machine Squat 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Friday - Traps, Abs, Neck Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Traps Smith Machine Upright Row 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Traps Deadlift/Shrug Machine 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Abs Machine Crunch 3 25 60-90 sec Neck 4-Way Neck Machine 3 15 60-90 sec Saturday - Shoulders, Triceps Body Part Exercise Sets Reps Rest Front Deltoids Smith Machine Shoulder Press 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Side Deltoids Seated Machine Lateral Raise 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Rear Deltoids Rear Delt Fly Machine 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Triceps Close-Grip Bench Press 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Triceps Triceps Extension Machine 3 15, 12, 8 60-90 sec Sunday - Rest It may be danger of doing free weights, but same goes to machines, if u used it with wrong posture, u still get screw up. Of course there are pros who do just machine and grow well like darklight. I think this routine is good enough but u do can use these machines for a 5X5 (which is a concept of 5 sets of 5 reps and add more weights once u able to do a 5X5 for that particular weight.) This post has been edited by van_takawa: Apr 17 2012, 12:48 AM |
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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 16 2012, 11:21 PM) You must be doing something wrong though I can't say what is wrong with ur diet or workouts. Since I'm in low-carb low calorie diet, I'm taking 190g protein per day which is 1.5 X 126 (lean body mass in pound).LOw protein intake may be the cause. How much protein are u taking now ? I think you are correct about my protein intake during that one week. maybe I'm having lower protein intake since I don't keep track my macro during that week (and Saturday and Sunday since it is my half cheat day for both days). QUOTE(van_takawa @ Apr 17 2012, 12:39 AM) Hey brother, figures as in ur body stats are just figures. Things can be wrong, mirror is always the better indicator. Thanks for the kind words man. I've been experimenting on how to lose my fat and yes, I don't want to be relying on the fat burner to lose my fat. After I finished my fat burner, I'm gonna try another method called EC Stack. Experimenting as I have a family background of obesity (my sister is obese, siblings etc) and I do want to help them.But please be aware that you lose ur muscle and ur fat free mass which means it could be skeletal muscle, water or bone, but u gain fat. So in this case, you need do check back your whole diet and even workout. Because it's not a correct situation when u try to lose fat but gained fat and go opposite losing ur fat free mass and muscle mass (losing bone mass is even worst than losing muscle mass). Do not over rely on fat burner (I'm not sure how ur workout is) and do aware when it come to fat losing, ur body is smart enough, that u can depress or surpress it by using a lot fat burners but it will somehow counterback. And once you lose control then it gains more than what it lost. It's not practical to lose 6kg in a month (exclude the biggest losers) and it's even much more harder when it come to 6kg of fat (how much total mass could you have lost then) in a month? Fighting fat is a long journey, do not be too harsh to ur body. Eat right,Work hard,rest well and be positive. This post has been edited by alien9: Apr 17 2012, 02:00 AM |
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QUOTE(confusedkid @ Apr 16 2012, 09:45 PM) Hey guys, imma beginner who is looking for a program to start with. So, I have been working out with a trainer for almost 2 months now (lost almost 6kg in weight) and my sessions are almost finished. So i was looking at 5x5 and westside but im worried about safety and form cos i'll be working out without a spotter. So i looked for programs involving more machines and stumbled upon this. What do you guys think about the program. My aim here is still to cut. why not just continue doing the routine that u did with your trainer since it worked so well. 5x5 programs are great for beginners, u wont need a spotter if u start light and practice good form. |
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QUOTE(confusedkid @ Apr 16 2012, 10:45 PM) Hey guys, imma beginner who is looking for a program to start with. So, I have been working out with a trainer for almost 2 months now (lost almost 6kg in weight) and my sessions are almost finished. So i was looking at 5x5 and westside but im worried about safety and form cos i'll be working out without a spotter. So i looked for programs involving more machines and stumbled upon this. What do you guys think about the program. My aim here is still to cut. try smith machine.... I was training alone once, try 5x5 with heavy loads on bench press.... on fifth set, I told myself, lets go to 6,7 or maybe 8reps lastly just to blast guess what? on 7th rep half way, my muscle fails and the barbell just drops like hell... luckily I was able to hook on just merely it hit my chest.... |
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Apr 17 2012, 12:39 AM) Added on April 17, 2012, 12:48 am Some of these machines i dun even seen it before like machine crunch,4 way neck machine. It may be danger of doing free weights, but same goes to machines, if u used it with wrong posture, u still get screw up. Of course there are pros who do just machine and grow well like darklight. I think this routine is good enough but u do can use these machines for a 5X5 (which is a concept of 5 sets of 5 reps and add more weights once u able to do a 5X5 for that particular weight.) and what do u mean by using these machines for a 5x5? Issit increasing the weight to an amount where i can only do 5 reps per exercise? And how would that eb superior compared to this programs no. of sets and reps (3 x 15/12/8). QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ Apr 17 2012, 07:49 AM) why not just continue doing the routine that u did with your trainer since it worked so well. 5x5 programs are great for beginners, u wont need a spotter if u start light and practice good form. Err im not so sure but i dun think there is a set routine with him And if i was to do a 5x5, shouldnt i be using heavier weights? Wouldnt going light slow my progress by alot? Added on April 17, 2012, 9:00 am QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Apr 17 2012, 08:49 AM) try smith machine.... Thats what im scared of haha...but with the smith machine, its still a machine right I was training alone once, try 5x5 with heavy loads on bench press.... on fifth set, I told myself, lets go to 6,7 or maybe 8reps lastly just to blast guess what? on 7th rep half way, my muscle fails and the barbell just drops like hell... luckily I was able to hook on just merely it hit my chest.... This post has been edited by confusedkid: Apr 17 2012, 09:00 AM |
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QUOTE(confusedkid @ Apr 17 2012, 09:53 AM) Thats what im scared of haha...but with the smith machine, its still a machine right try get the middle point, align your body and its alright... all my squat, bench press etc is done one smith machine as I am training alone... |
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Since van_takawa said its a good routine, would it be better to start off with the program i mentioned earlier and slowly try to replace most machine workouts with free weight
Maybe i can start off by replacing Smith Machine Flat Bench Press with a db flat bench press and doing regular squats (with lighter weight). |
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Apr 17 2012, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(confusedkid @ Apr 17 2012, 08:53 AM) yea but if i screw up a bench press, then thats the end of me 3X15/12/8 and 5X5 are the concept of reps and sets. It just a matter of choice of weight. Some choose the 80% of ur max 20reps weight some choose 60%. It's up to u to choose. Basically a 5X5, means u do a 5 reps per exercise for 5 sets with the amount of weight u can just do around 20 reps.When u can do a 5X5 for the weight add in more weights. 5X5 isn't new, it's an old school but until today still proven working for increasing strength and of course mass. and what do u mean by using these machines for a 5x5? Issit increasing the weight to an amount where i can only do 5 reps per exercise? And how would that eb superior compared to this programs no. of sets and reps (3 x 15/12/8). Err im not so sure but i dun think there is a set routine with him And if i was to do a 5x5, shouldnt i be using heavier weights? Wouldnt going light slow my progress by alot? Added on April 17, 2012, 9:00 am Thats what im scared of haha...but with the smith machine, its still a machine right However, bodybuilding isn't abt a fixed formula, after all, variation will be important to avoid pleateau. 3X15/12/8 is good too, as long as u r able to play wif the weight and rest time,gains should be just a matter of time. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 16 2012, 02:46 AM) I have a question but before that, this is what I know. My man, chill out... quit relying on those fancy machines that ur gym carries. seriously at ur stage u really need not to be so meticulous bout such details... set a goal that's not too hard to reach. once ur're close to ur goal, give urself a treat and set a new goal. progress is a slow process if quality is a concern... quit using the machines. and seriously dont take everythin the PT says for a fact. (MOST) of them are idiots...To gain mass, we need to have calorie surplus. To lose weight, we need to have calorie deficit. We cannot gain mass without adding a little bit of fat. Low calorie deficit burn fat, extreme calorie deficit burn fat + muscle. My question is: Why do I lose my hard earn muscle although I do gain fat? These are some info: 1. Been taking fat burner for 4 weeks and managed to lose 6 kg of fats. 2. During my 4 weeks cutting phase, I'm on low-carb and low-calorie diet. 3. Stopped taking the fat burner for a week (6/4 - 13/4). 4. During that one week, I only managed to workout once on 9/4. 5. During that one week, I didn't controlled my diet. I ate fast foods, potatoes, a bit of rice, mee hoon, kuey teow (have some calorie surplus every day). 6. On 6/4, my weight was 95.1kg and I have 33.5 kg of muscle mass, 35.9 kg of fat and fat free mass of 59.2 kg. 7. On 13/4, my weight was 93.8 kg and I have 32.4 kg of muscle mass, 36.7 kg of fat and fat free mass of 57.1 kg. 8. Total weight loss = 1.3 kg, total muscle mass loss = 1.1 kg, total fat gain = 0.8 kg, total fat free mass loss = 2.1 kg. |
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Eh.. WTA, weight gain+fat burner can stack?
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QUOTE(confusedkid @ Apr 17 2012, 10:34 AM) Since van_takawa said its a good routine, would it be better to start off with the program i mentioned earlier and slowly try to replace most machine workouts with free weight I do think it's a good idea to shuffle up free weights and machine. Because both of them are good, y sacrifice one when you can have them all?Maybe i can start off by replacing Smith Machine Flat Bench Press with a db flat bench press and doing regular squats (with lighter weight). Just work out. You will know whether it works or not, ur body if not people around u will tell u. |
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Apr 17 2012, 12:03 PM) My man, chill out... quit relying on those fancy machines that ur gym carries. seriously at ur stage u really need not to be so meticulous bout such details... set a goal that's not too hard to reach. once ur're close to ur goal, give urself a treat and set a new goal. progress is a slow process if quality is a concern... quit using the machines. and seriously dont take everythin the PT says for a fact. (MOST) of them are idiots... Man, I've been chilling out for almost 8 months and just started seriously on March 2012. Just focused on training and training until one day I realized that I need to be more serious in order to achieve my goal.Right now, my current goal is to get to 80 kg (from 100kg) at the end of this year without losing my hard earn muscle and I just want to get rid of the fat so I do need to keep track all my muscle mass, body fat mass, etc2 and start counting my macro-nutrition in order to achieve my goal no? If you do wondering what my workout is, I've started my weightlifting with SL 5x5 and currently I've modified SL a bit, dishing out OHP and add dips, chin up, front lateral raise, rear lateral raise, side lateral raise. I do want to achieve my goal as much as anyone else and I've found out that it would be very hard to lose fat if I don't do what I did. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 17 2012, 05:35 PM) Man, I've been chilling out for almost 8 months and just started seriously on March 2012. Just focused on training and training until one day I realized that I need to be more serious in order to achieve my goal. Hey bro, I came all the way from 96kg to 75kg in one and a half YEAR.(75kg is recorded last november) (the last 8kg in the last 6 months which due to an injury and lack of exercise). I've been overweight for probably 19 years and I changed last year by working out and mostly changing lifestyle in term of diet and more active lifestyle.Right now, my current goal is to get to 80 kg (from 100kg) at the end of this year without losing my hard earn muscle and I just want to get rid of the fat so I do need to keep track all my muscle mass, body fat mass, etc2 and start counting my macro-nutrition in order to achieve my goal no? If you do wondering what my workout is, I've started my weightlifting with SL 5x5 and currently I've modified SL a bit, dishing out OHP and add dips, chin up, front lateral raise, rear lateral raise, side lateral raise. I do want to achieve my goal as much as anyone else and I've found out that it would be very hard to lose fat if I don't do what I did. The fat % is cut from 35% to 22%, and yes I do lost muscle mass. And from november onwards, I'm back to training and eat more without supplements. I achieved 78kg with still 22 of fat on february. And from february onwards, I started to take supplement, Myofusion Probiotic, Multivitamin and Creatine. And April, I'm now 81kg with 21% of fat. Yes, i'm still a fat boy but compare to last 2 years, I looks way slimmer. And compare to the 81kg last august and 81kg now, my waist line is like 35" vs 33". It's always hard to lose fat, but I did lose fat but together with some muscle mass which I think it's worth. With my 96kg, there's no way I can do a chin up or even dip, even suffered with 20 pushups. And all I can do is use my strength to lift weights, to do cardio, a lot brisk walking in school and during work on the holidays. And diet change is like no mcd and kfc, if I reli want to have fast food, I goes to subway and burger king, customised with no sauce and more veggies. I dun drink gas drink, packet drink,no alcohol and not even isotonic drink. All my beverages is H20 or Chinese tea. But I still eat all the food cook by my mum, ordinary chinese's food, fried food, meats, soup and veggies. What I do is cut down the rice and "volume" of my meal. And when I have my own meal outside, I go for small meals, spend more of course but I think it's worth. But last year when I enter U, which lead me to a very hectic life with societies, academic and at the same time sports competition like basketball, futsal and even my first ever Rugby experience. I lost 8kg in that semester.For the first time I saw that "middle divider of abs" the arms' curvelines. And I eat like a cow in Uni because I'm way too tired but I still lose weight and look better. That's the time I started to eat more and less restrict but prefer protein intake than carbs intake,carbs intake than fat intake. We all want to look as good as we want, but it's really a matter of time. If u had been stacking and storing for fats for 10 years, U will be glad if u shred them off 5 years (which is half-life), and if it's 20 years, give urself a time frame of 5 years to be fit. I feel happy for my change and I feel even happier and satisfy when I see my family learn to eat more healthy and be more active. When I see my friends who start to hit the gym and asking me how and try to learn, I feel that I influence them just like how the big bros around the world and of course in this forum influence others. Just keep working. This is what motivated me when I gave up. A Taiwanese from 25% fat reduced to 7% male in just 10 months and crowned his Mr University. (Extreme case though) This post has been edited by van_takawa: Apr 17 2012, 09:55 PM |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks for sharing your experience in the journey towards fat loss. Your's motivated me to lose my fat further. So, this is my story. It all started when I graduated for my diploma. Went to the convocation for my scroll and I saw myself in the picture, the biggest size of myself and I cannot bear the looks. When I've first started weightlifting, my weight was 100kg and for 8 months it stayed that way but I do notice the changes in my body. Although my waist line didn't reduce, I do feel more muscular and more energetic. But while still being haunted with the fattest image of myself, I vow to graduate with better physique. Right now, my weight is 93 kg but I'm happy as I can wear all my shirt that I used to wear during my diploma's year. But I cannot stop here. I have another shirt where I really wanted to wear which is L size Barcelona Home Kit Season 2010/2011 by the end of this year. Maybe my goal isn't big as everyone else but a goal is a goal and I'll do anything to achieve that. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 17 2012, 11:32 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks for sharing your experience in the journey towards fat loss. Your's motivated me to lose my fat further. So, this is my story. It all started when I graduated for my diploma. Went to the convocation for my scroll and I saw myself in the picture, the biggest size of myself and I cannot bear the looks. When I've first started weightlifting, my weight was 100kg and for 8 months it stayed that way but I do notice the changes in my body. Although my waist line didn't reduce, I do feel more muscular and more energetic. But while still being haunted with the fattest image of myself, I vow to graduate with better physique. Right now, my weight is 93 kg but I'm happy as I can wear all my shirt that I used to wear during my diploma's year. But I cannot stop here. I have another shirt where I really wanted to wear which is L size Barcelona Home Kit Season 2010/2011 by the end of this year. Maybe my goal isn't big as everyone else but a goal is a goal and I'll do anything to achieve that. |
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Hi guys, let's share our favorite arms exercises
For mine, Triceps: Skullcrushers Cable rope pushdown Dips One-arm triceps back extension Biceps: 21 EZ-bar curl Concentration curl Cable curl Zottman/normal db curl |
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Favourite Arm Exercise
Bicep only Zottman Curl super set with Static Arm Curl with Hammer Curl Full sulpination concentration curl superset with concentration curl Tricep Only Tricep kickback super set with skull crushers Tris overhead extension Arms+ Shoulder Deep Swimmer Press Scarecrows Shoulder Fly+Row+Presses All can be performed by a dumbbell. Learned from P90X. The burn on the arms made me sweat like I'm squatting 50kg. |
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i usually will perform superset for arms
close grip bench, barbell curl tricep pushdown, db curl skull crusher, ez bar curl seated tricep press, cable curl 3 sets each, 8-12 reps.. sometimes i do train tricep after chest workout seated easy bar extension superset with one arm tricep kickback tricep pushdown n rope pushdown back & bicep bb curl, hammer curl, ez bar curl, cable curl I'll switch around the workout when get used to it so wont be boring |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:39 AM
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guys,
i need some advise, i just recently re-join a gym after 3 years i left for studies. here are my physical attributes : height : 165cm weight : 75.5kg currently, i have bigger lower body parts(thighs, calves, glutes and of course my belly area!) my target is to minimize or get smaller in these areas and the exercises that i'm doing right now at the gym are : 1) 15-30 minutes of stationary bike cardio. 2) 3x10x3kg lunges 3) 3x10x0kg olympic bar squats 4) 3x10x20kg machine shoulder press 5) 3x10x10kg bicep curl i don't want to grow more muscle on my lower body, just to cut the measurement and have more power and endurance for running as well as futsal. mind sharing any of your advice or experience? |
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Apr 18 2012, 12:27 PM
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Time to get some serious advice from all the Sifus here .
Intro abit. Last time was around 95kg then lost till 88kg . After a whille slacking back till 100kg then lost till 90 kg. Now slacking till near to 110kg already Current Weight = 110kg Height = Last measure is around 175cm+ Should I be focusing on cardio or weights ? Beside fixing the diet part. If weights should I be doing less and carry more weight OR more rep but less weight ? Please shed some tips / advice |
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Apr 18 2012, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Apr 18 2012, 01:27 PM) Time to get some serious advice from all the Sifus here . WOW... you are same height as me but almost twice as heavy as me.... Intro abit. Last time was around 95kg then lost till 88kg . After a whille slacking back till 100kg then lost till 90 kg. Now slacking till near to 110kg already Current Weight = 110kg Height = Last measure is around 175cm+ Should I be focusing on cardio or weights ? Beside fixing the diet part. If weights should I be doing less and carry more weight OR more rep but less weight ? Please shed some tips / advice my humble advice keep the weight.. do normal 15 x 3 can already, then CONSISTENLY do cardio, and have CLEAN DIET... and do it consistenly(exercise + diet).. many follow till one point then back to slack routine, then weight increase, then feel guilty, then workout & eat clean diet for say 2month then back to slacking P/S when I mention the word DIET to my friends, they instantly think I am not eating. diet is a food programme, you calculate your intake and body consumptions... not simply tak mau makan apa apa |
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Apr 18 2012, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Apr 18 2012, 01:47 PM) WOW... you are same height as me but almost twice as heavy as me.... Thanks man , So best to do less rep and more heavy ?my humble advice keep the weight.. do normal 15 x 3 can already, then CONSISTENLY do cardio, and have CLEAN DIET... and do it consistenly(exercise + diet).. many follow till one point then back to slack routine, then weight increase, then feel guilty, then workout & eat clean diet for say 2month then back to slacking P/S when I mention the word DIET to my friends, they instantly think I am not eating. diet is a food programme, you calculate your intake and body consumptions... not simply tak mau makan apa apa Monday , I did easy weight but lots of rep , only this morning can feel the sore , yesterday was fine . My ideal weight is around 75-80kg |
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Apr 18 2012, 01:50 PM
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there`s this dude I saw in gym, into the threadmill walking for an hour to sweat, then take a 5kg dumbell train from delt to calf in one day. all one weight(light-5kg only) and do this once a week.. and eat what he feels like... guess what? he looks the same till now .... 130kg at 170cm
Added on April 18, 2012, 1:51 pm QUOTE(ghoss @ Apr 18 2012, 02:49 PM) Thanks man , So best to do less rep and more heavy ? your goal is to loose weight and bodyfat, so cardio and clean diet is more important than weight training for your case, nonetheless, ditching the weight training is not a good idea. Monday , I did easy weight but lots of rep , only this morning can feel the sore , yesterday was fine . My ideal weight is around 75-80kg here`s few plans from the pros http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/find-a-pla...-2039-male.html This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Apr 18 2012, 01:53 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 01:59 PM
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Now my arms are sore till can't straighten it
Nowdays I think I should reduce the abs workout , as if you don't feel so tired /pain , you won't find an excuse not going to workout |
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Apr 18 2012, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Apr 18 2012, 02:59 PM) Nowdays I think I should reduce the abs workout , as if you don't feel so tired /pain , you won't find an excuse not going to workout no.. go 100% on all if you want to do weight, dont say< I want big chest, I do 3 chest exercise, I want small arm, I do 1bicep and tricep only... if this is the case, u are still where you were spot reduction is a myth, yes but to a point if you do not include cardio e.g. you cant burn the belly by doing 1000rep of sit up a day, but can increase the rate of belly burning if you incorporate cardio & HIIT plus sit up This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Apr 18 2012, 02:08 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 02:10 PM
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^ yea
What I mean was for the abs don't do too bad but ok for the other parts of the body. Actually plan to go this morning but hand is too sore , so plan to do cardio tonight or some leg excercise. I used to jog / HIIT runs , but after putting up weight I can't do it without feeling pain in the knees . So now have to resort to brisk walking |
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Apr 18 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Apr 18 2012, 03:10 PM) ^ yea for my POV, like chinese sayingWhat I mean was for the abs don't do too bad but ok for the other parts of the body. Actually plan to go this morning but hand is too sore , so plan to do cardio tonight or some leg excercise. I used to jog / HIIT runs , but after putting up weight I can't do it without feeling pain in the knees . So now have to resort to brisk walking one, no do, two, no stop if you want to do, do the max for all body part... you will feel accomplish when you hit your set far goal and exceeded it |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM
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Hey guys, i have a question.
After a deadlift exercise, do any of you feel some kind of soreness at your back? NOT pain or sharp pain..just one kind of soreness at your middle back bone area. After rest for an hour, soreness is gone. Really want to know what does that mean. This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 18 2012, 10:23 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM) Hey guys, i have a question. HMm, interesting.After a deadlift exercise, do any of you feel some kind of soreness at your back? NOT pain or sharp pain..just one kind of soreness at your middle back bone area. After rest for an hour, soreness is gone. Really want to know what does that mean. Right after the deadlift exercise ? Soreness usually comes after a day for me. Maybe its because of earlier workouts ? |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 18 2012, 10:34 PM) HMm, interesting. After a couple of sets then i feel it. Everytime i do deadlift workout. Ohh btw, i do squats first..after other exercises i will arrive to deadlift.Right after the deadlift exercise ? Soreness usually comes after a day for me. Maybe its because of earlier workouts ? I'm thinking its because i tried tooooo much in straightening my back/torso while doing, to prevent my back from bending forward due to the heavy lift. This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 18 2012, 10:47 PM |
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Apr 19 2012, 04:56 PM
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hey guys i am 168cm and around 62 kg and maybe around 18% body fat
should i continue to cut or should i start bodybuilding? (i am new at this and i was thinking of starting the "starting strength workout") |
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Apr 19 2012, 05:55 PM
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u always been 18% or u cut to 18%. For me, i will cut until about 12%, then bulk clean. but if you relly not much muscle, maybe can start bulk clean at 18%
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Apr 19 2012, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 19 2012, 05:55 PM) u always been 18% or u cut to 18%. For me, i will cut until about 12%, then bulk clean. but if you relly not much muscle, maybe can start bulk clean at 18% i used to be like 83 then drop to this.. like 2 years ago then i just jog a few times a week for 20 mins and push ups.. i think i manage till 40 last time now till 30 onlyand i do some weight lifting at home. not proper just some squats, bench press, curls thats about it maybe i will get a picture up to clarify |
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Apr 19 2012, 06:11 PM
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if that's the case, then you should start clean bulking since you have drop alot of fat. The extra muscle will help you burn more calories
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Apr 19 2012, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 19 2012, 06:11 PM) if that's the case, then you should start clean bulking since you have drop alot of fat. The extra muscle will help you burn more calories just to clarify clean bulk is continuing normal food intake with cardio 2-3 times per week 20 minutes each timeor lower calorie intake with cardio 2-3 times per week 20 minutes each time or am i getting clean bulk wrong? |
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Apr 19 2012, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(Narako @ Apr 19 2012, 04:56 PM) hey guys i am 168cm and around 62 kg and maybe around 18% body fat From my opinion, I would just start strength training. Why? During early stages of strength training, you can increase your muscle mass whilst lowering body fat. That's what I've read, that's what you can read from Stronglifts 5x5 and that's what happened to me. Then, if you lots of muscle, you will have higher metabolism thus making your cutting phase easier.should i continue to cut or should i start bodybuilding? (i am new at this and i was thinking of starting the "starting strength workout") This post has been edited by alien9: Apr 19 2012, 07:56 PM |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:04 PM
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Apr 20 2012, 12:26 PM
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starting June ( 1st of June ) till September i got holiday liao
trying to do body recomposition i heard that leangains is a good method, but i don't think i can swallow lots of food in a short time Oh yeah thinking of switching to WS4B or 5/3/1. Any good advice? I find 5/3/1 is painfully slow to do. Any good Strength + Bodybuilding that requires 4 days split routine that you can suggest? |
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Apr 20 2012, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 20 2012, 12:26 PM) starting June ( 1st of June ) till September i got holiday liao from the way you write, its like "i wanna use the best way/method out there, but i dont want to comply to the method 100% because im lazy"trying to do body recomposition i heard that leangains is a good method, but i don't think i can swallow lots of food in a short time Oh yeah thinking of switching to WS4B or 5/3/1. Any good advice? I find 5/3/1 is painfully slow to do. Any good Strength + Bodybuilding that requires 4 days split routine that you can suggest? if you wanna do a diet method or a workout programme, THEN DO IT. whats the problem here? what, you cant swallow your daily caloric maintenance in 8 hours? leangains does not specify how many meals you need to take per day, just the time window. You want strength? do 3-6 reps. You want hypertrophy? do 6-10 reps. workout programmes are merely guidelines, you dont have to follow a specific one just to grow. Heck, most of us are on our own splits and we're doing just fine. So long as you're adding weight to your lifts i dont see how you cant progress, regardless of programme. |
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Apr 20 2012, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 20 2012, 12:36 PM) from the way you write, its like "i wanna use the best way/method out there, but i dont want to comply to the method 100% because im lazy" how often do you change the supplementary works? thinking of changing it every 6 weeks if you wanna do a diet method or a workout programme, THEN DO IT. whats the problem here? what, you cant swallow your daily caloric maintenance in 8 hours? leangains does not specify how many meals you need to take per day, just the time window. You want strength? do 3-6 reps. You want hypertrophy? do 6-10 reps. workout programmes are merely guidelines, you dont have to follow a specific one just to grow. Heck, most of us are on our own splits and we're doing just fine. So long as you're adding weight to your lifts i dont see how you cant progress, regardless of programme. |
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Apr 20 2012, 01:30 PM
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Might not be the right thread to post...
But i just saw Darklight in CLEO's Most eligible Bachelors. w00t. Some of my colleagues were asking me "Does he takes steroids? He's so Big!" Lol |
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Apr 20 2012, 01:39 PM
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Apr 20 2012, 02:50 PM
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How often do you guys hit the gym a week? Is 3-4 times okay?
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Apr 20 2012, 03:32 PM
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Apr 20 2012, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(shueking @ Apr 20 2012, 02:50 PM) What's the takeaway in asking this? It all depends on how you feel. Sometimes you can train whole week without adverse effects. Sometimes, twice a week shall suffice. As for me, I train at least 4 times a week. |
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Apr 20 2012, 07:59 PM
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3 to 4 times exclude cardio
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Apr 20 2012, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 20 2012, 11:26 AM) starting June ( 1st of June ) till September i got holiday liao Just pick one and do. I'd take WS4B if i was pressed for time. Thankfully work is kinda under control so 5/3/1 is my choice. trying to do body recomposition i heard that leangains is a good method, but i don't think i can swallow lots of food in a short time Oh yeah thinking of switching to WS4B or 5/3/1. Any good advice? I find 5/3/1 is painfully slow to do. Any good Strength + Bodybuilding that requires 4 days split routine that you can suggest? And yes , it is meant to be slow. No , i can't bench 200kg like you Dunno 'bout body recomp tho. Leangains seems like something you can try during your fasting month i think. |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 20 2012, 12:26 PM) starting June ( 1st of June ) till September i got holiday liao Just choose one and do the damn routine. Then maybe, just maybe, you'll finally be able to bench what you claim for real.trying to do body recomposition i heard that leangains is a good method, but i don't think i can swallow lots of food in a short time Oh yeah thinking of switching to WS4B or 5/3/1. Any good advice? I find 5/3/1 is painfully slow to do. Any good Strength + Bodybuilding that requires 4 days split routine that you can suggest? |
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Apr 20 2012, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 20 2012, 09:09 PM) Just choose one and do the damn routine. Then maybe, just maybe, you'll finally be able to bench what you claim for real. i'm still on the road to 2x BW bench bro, no worries, when the time comes i will show my approx 1RM is now 90KG. Anyways i used to do 5/3/1 before going back to begginers routine because i don't feel that i am on plateau yet. |
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Apr 21 2012, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 20 2012, 09:17 PM) i'm still on the road to 2x BW bench bro, no worries, when the time comes i will show oh shit. i was so excited to see your 2xBW bench press vid till i jizz in my pants. then i just realised that this is just another BS.my approx 1RM is now 90KG. Anyways i used to do 5/3/1 before going back to begginers routine because i don't feel that i am on plateau yet. |
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Apr 21 2012, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 20 2012, 09:17 PM) i'm still on the road to 2x BW bench bro, no worries, when the time comes i will show oh my, don't claim it before you could do it man, you're just getting us excited. Just like a woman appearance till you open up and you're actually a man.. blehhmy approx 1RM is now 90KG. Anyways i used to do 5/3/1 before going back to begginers routine because i don't feel that i am on plateau yet. |
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Apr 22 2012, 04:36 AM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 20 2012, 09:17 PM) i'm still on the road to 2x BW bench bro, no worries, when the time comes i will show What logic do you use here? Used to do 5/3/1 and wanted to go back to beginner's routine because you are not plateau yet? Damn, I cannot brain any single word in your statement. What beginner's routine do you want that is better that 5/3/1? 5lbs pink dumbbell exercise? Your usage of the word plateau somehow makes me think that you didn't even know what the meaning of it. Just throw it around to make you look smart to other people.my approx 1RM is now 90KG. Anyways i used to do 5/3/1 before going back to begginers routine because i don't feel that i am on plateau yet. Yeah, I'm not there when you said to other people that you can bench 2xBW but if you claim that you are currently benching 90kg for 1RM but you've said that you already managed to bench 2xBW, I suggests that you throw your ego as far as you can before it starting to injured you; it does already injured your pride thou. |
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Apr 23 2012, 09:21 AM
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Also, you would know your 1rm if you were doing westside, lol.
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Hi guys I'm going on a cut cycle and I want to do fasted cardio in the morning, but I also want to put my cardio after my weights session and I don't think I have enough energy for weights if I'm hungry, so should I do cardio in the morning and weights in the evening or if there is no significant advantage of doing fasted cardio then i will just put it after my weights session in the evening. thank you
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 20 2012, 06:05 PM) I did SL 5X5 too but stopped after i finished the 12th week. Started to do 3 days split then. Even when I'm doing split workouts, I increase my lift 2.5kg in each workout.I did add some extra workouts. Some chest exercises in Workout A(BB bench press day), some shoulder exercises in Workout B(OHP day). |
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Apr 23 2012, 09:40 AM) Hi guys I'm going on a cut cycle and I want to do fasted cardio in the morning, but I also want to put my cardio after my weights session and I don't think I have enough energy for weights if I'm hungry, so should I do cardio in the morning and weights in the evening or if there is no significant advantage of doing fasted cardio then i will just put it after my weights session in the evening. thank you So much mental masturbation. Pick a time that is convenient for you and do the cardio. There is nothing special about fasted cardio. You don't even need to do it if provided that you are not lifting like a p***y and your macros are on point.This post has been edited by darkseifer: Apr 23 2012, 10:14 AM |
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Apr 23 2012, 09:40 AM) Hi guys I'm going on a cut cycle and I want to do fasted cardio in the morning, but I also want to put my cardio after my weights session and I don't think I have enough energy for weights if I'm hungry, so should I do cardio in the morning and weights in the evening or if there is no significant advantage of doing fasted cardio then i will just put it after my weights session in the evening. thank you nvr try any fasted cardio before..I add in 10-20 minutes cardio after weight session and thats only once or twice a week.. Too tired after weight diet still major role hehe.. |
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Guys, do you all consume snack bars? If yes, do share which brand u guys like... currently am loving this brand 'alive' almond nut bar. Taste sweet, nice and nutty
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Apr 23 2012, 11:35 AM
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Ermm around SGD 4.90 for a box of 6. Guess it would approximate around RM 10+. Taste better than Nature Valley
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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Apr 23 2012, 10:13 AM) So much mental masturbation. Pick a time that is convenient for you and do the cardio. There is nothing special about fasted cardio. You don't even need to do it if provided that you are not lifting like a p***y and your macros are on point. LOL I was just asking which one is better. I did the cardio this morning already FYI |
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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Apr 23 2012, 10:13 AM) So much mental masturbation. Pick a time that is convenient for you and do the cardio. There is nothing special about fasted cardio. You don't even need to do it if provided that you are not lifting like a p***y and your macros are on point. Exactly. The point a lot is missing is NOT when to do cardio, but on whether doing it or not. Who cares if it's fasted or non fasted, just get it done. Morning , noon, evening, midnight, it don't matter. Things get so complicated and so meticulous when people start thinking way too in-depth, not that it's a bad thing but it's just about getting your ass moving rather than bickering on what to do and not doing it. It's not just cardio, it's also the weights, the diet, the supplementation. Don't complicate things, don't over think things, don't reinvent the wheel. Just pick up something and stick with it. The key is consistency. And kingarthur, no worries, darkseifer wasn't being harsh, he's just trying to get it to all of us to keep things simple |
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 23 2012, 03:25 PM) Exactly. The point a lot is missing is NOT when to do cardio, but on whether doing it or not. Who cares if it's fasted or non fasted, just get it done. Morning , noon, evening, midnight, it don't matter. Alright, thanks bro for helping to clear up. The first sentence just seemed a bit offensive but he gave good advice so thank you darkseifer.Things get so complicated and so meticulous when people start thinking way too in-depth, not that it's a bad thing but it's just about getting your ass moving rather than bickering on what to do and not doing it. It's not just cardio, it's also the weights, the diet, the supplementation. Don't complicate things, don't over think things, don't reinvent the wheel. Just pick up something and stick with it. The key is consistency. And kingarthur, no worries, darkseifer wasn't being harsh, he's just trying to get it to all of us to keep things simple |
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Apr 23 2012, 05:33 PM) Alright, thanks bro for helping to clear up. The first sentence just seemed a bit offensive but he gave good advice so thank you darkseifer. Lol. I get accused of being cocky or arrogant most of the time. Am used to it. So yeah, no intention of being offensive. Thats just the way I post.![]() |
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Didnt think it was offensive, at all. Lighten up bros! Words usually dont have the spoken effect after all
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Apr 24 2012, 09:33 AM
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Just done the correct squats yesterday , man my legs is killing me now
Wonder if I'm able to do it on tomorrow. Wanted to do the barbell row but still can't get the right position Something like this This post has been edited by ghoss: Apr 24 2012, 09:35 AM |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The barbell row form in the video is good, but as a beginner, you may not be able to have such a good form, as in your leg may not be that strong and firm, your body may be moving front and back. But the key is use very light weight until u master the form. When you use heavy weights, like the video, the motion is fast, you dun really get to feel it. Use light weight, try a 2 second pull up, 2 second put down. It's alright if your weight dun touch the floor every rep. I used to hate rows cause I always stumbled like what Scoobie did with flat back and straight legs. Until I learn the correct form, I love rowing.That's is what helped my chin up and pull up. |
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Apr 24 2012, 11:55 AM
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^ Thanks .
Cos yesterday I saw a few ppl doing it but didn't touch the ground. I still need to learn to position , especially my butt |
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Apr 24 2012, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Apr 24 2012, 11:55 AM) ^ Thanks . Cos yesterday I saw a few ppl doing it but didn't touch the ground. I still need to learn to position , especially my butt |
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Apr 24 2012, 12:20 PM
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I'm not sure what's the correct posture when doing it , my back should be lower or higher or just almost parallel
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Apr 24 2012, 01:59 PM
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I think the vid above is the Pendley row, not the normal barbell row.
Pretty sure you don't need to return the barbell to the floor after each rep for the normal barbell row. My gym doesn't have a weight plate that is tall enough for me to do the Pendley row so I just resort to doing the normal ones. Bent Over Barbell Rows |
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Apr 24 2012, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Apr 24 2012, 12:20 PM) I'm not sure what's the correct posture when doing it , my back should be lower or higher or just almost parallel There are several rows variations that you can find. The most famous one is Bent-Over Rows. You can also use T-Bar Rows, Pendlay Rows, Kroc Rows. All of them have the same function which is to train the back but different variations have different difficulty to set up the form. So, you can choose whatever variations you like. If you have a problem with your back cannot be straight, try superman exercise. I've train 3 of my friends to do pendlay rows and all of them have terrible back form so this exercise have fixed them. |
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Apr 24 2012, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(reddevilchoo @ Apr 24 2012, 08:15 PM) I want to join, but only 18 above... Dissapointed. Nike is better. |
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QUOTE(reddevilchoo @ Apr 24 2012, 08:15 PM) Yeap, joined the 10km. Was extremely not satisfied with my performance on enr i just had to make amends |
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QUOTE(reddevilchoo @ Apr 25 2012, 09:35 AM) Gave yourself a challenge by joining 16.8km Running isn't a priority of mine. Its like me asking you to challenge yourself and do 100kg bench for reps. Still got plenty of time to train and this could help me burn lots of calories. I just joined to make amends and prove myself, for me. That's it. I don't have a running goal whatsoever. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 25 2012, 03:38 PM) Running isn't a priority of mine. Its like me asking you to challenge yourself and do 100kg bench for reps. same. n i will mostly be running on 10km as well. =). I dun hav a running goal as well, juz happened that running is one of my fitness test. Just like pull ups, pushups and the major lifts, they are just indicator of my training progress. =)I just joined to make amends and prove myself, for me. That's it. I don't have a running goal whatsoever. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 25 2012, 04:38 PM) Running isn't a priority of mine. Its like me asking you to challenge yourself and do 100kg bench for reps. No offence bro. I just joined to make amends and prove myself, for me. That's it. I don't have a running goal whatsoever. Might be bumping you on that day. |
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Apr 25 2012, 11:55 PM
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Apr 26 2012, 08:45 AM
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guys, anything can replace egg white?
Getting nausea with egg lol.. anything with low calorie while is high protein having hard time especially in the morning.. |
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Apr 26 2012, 09:01 AM
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haha...finally u get sick of em...
i jus took 5 half boiled eggs jus nw |
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Apr 26 2012, 09:04 AM
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5? ==" together with the yolks?
man, 3 of my meal consist 5 eggs! once i smell it, i like zzzz........ rage mode lol.. but stand in front of the mirror, looks better compare to last time.. anyone mind to share their breakfast??? |
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Apr 26 2012, 09:31 AM
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normally i eat
8am - 4-5 whole eggs 11am - protein blend 1pm - lunch 4pm - protein blend and so on........ hard 2 find something to substitute a cheap and high protein food = egg ....unless we cook chicken breast? |
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Apr 26 2012, 09:36 AM
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i do cook chicken breast or should i say boil lol.. i'll take that during lunch cz i can get something with taste during lunch..
sigh.. i guess i'll jz stick to the egg for now.. see how long can i tahan lol.. |
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Apr 26 2012, 10:09 AM
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Apr 26 2012, 10:55 AM
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MelForC3, you don't take the yolk?
Firm tofu is really cheap too, but I personally find it harder to eat than eggs... At the pasar malam u can get 4 pieces for rm1, each piece is about 100g = ~10g protein. |
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Apr 26 2012, 02:41 PM
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Pretty insightful (depends on how you interpret it, of course) and interesting take on Pre and Post nutrition.
Looks like I'll be carrying around Gummy Bears in the gym... |
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Apr 26 2012, 06:36 PM
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Oh noes, missed the 30mins window. Goodbye sweet gainzzz.
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Apr 26 2012, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Apr 26 2012, 06:36 PM) lol what happen? where was your shake? always put a banana or an apple in your gym bag just incase. bread will do the work too so that your body wont use protein for energy...simple carbs..hahaa take note for beginners about this 30mins thingy.This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 26 2012, 07:34 PM |
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Apr 26 2012, 08:15 PM
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Meh. Will be using dat dere casein IV drip to stay anaBROlic all day errday. Catabolism has no chance to beat me!
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 07:28 PM) lol what happen? where was your shake? always put a banana or an apple in your gym bag just incase. bread will do the work too so that your body wont use protein for energy...simple carbs..hahaa take note for beginners about this 30mins thingy. Not sure if serious. |
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Apr 26 2012, 08:22 PM
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gettin lean and tone leg and thigh..advice ?
weight? reps? days? |
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 07:56 PM) QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 26 2012, 08:15 PM) QUOTE(darkseifer @ Apr 26 2012, 08:15 PM) Meh. Will be using dat dere casein IV drip to stay anaBROlic all day errday. Catabolism has no chance to beat me! ![]() QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 26 2012, 08:16 PM) QUOTE(swks26 @ Apr 26 2012, 08:21 PM) QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 26 2012, 08:22 PM) lol my bad! |
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I just started to lift weight, around 3 week now.
I noticed that every muscle on my right is biggest than the left side. The obvious part is arm beside chest. Should I add weight to the left side ? Let's say right hand I lift 7kg dumble, left 7.5kg ? |
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Apr 26 2012, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 09:05 PM) I just started to lift weight, around 3 week now. Play badminton/ tennis?I noticed that every muscle on my right is biggest than the left side. The obvious part is arm beside chest. Should I add weight to the left side ? Let's say right hand I lift 7kg dumble, left 7.5kg ? Dont think you need to do so. Stick to 7kg both, lets say your left arm can only do 10 reps max in 1 set, do only 10 reps for the right too(eventhou you feel you can do more than 10 reps). I have been playing badminton for 13 years before i started weight training, so you can imagine how my right arm is compare to my left. My left is catching up right now. Thats my way..maybe the big fellas here will have other ways. |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 09:16 PM) Play badminton/ tennis? Thanks for advice Dont think you need to do so. Stick to 7kg both, lets say your left arm can only do 10 reps max in 1 set, do only 10 reps for the right too(eventhou you feel you can do more than 10 reps). I have been playing badminton for 13 years before i started weight training, so you can imagine how my right arm is compare to my left. My left is catching up right now. Thats my way..maybe the big fellas here will have other ways. I'm afraid most is right chest will bigger than left. Not balance. |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 09:28 PM) Well if you are worry, maybe you should try to use machines for chest at the early stage.Do free weights tend to cause this ''1 side bigger than the other'' if you are using the wrong techniques. Better if you have an experienced gym partner. This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 26 2012, 09:37 PM |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 09:35 PM) Well if you are worry, maybe you should try to use machines for chest at the early stage. I only workout at home, too shy go to gym because I'm thin,( 175cm, 56kg). I aim for ripped chest and arm. I do push ups 3 times/week.Do free weights tend to cause this ''1 side bigger than the other'' if you are using the wrong techniques. Better if you have an experienced gym partner. And my partner even more funny, I consume weight gain now, and he said I will die early. |
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Apr 26 2012, 10:09 AM) cant tahan anymore lol..jz take 5 egg white, 1 whole egg omelette with a bit of chilly sauce as postworkout meal.. also about 200g of chick breast tofu? hm.. boil tofu vs boil egg zz ==" i cant imagine the taste lol.. haha.. |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Apr 26 2012, 09:47 PM) cant tahan anymore lol.. why don't you try half boiled eggs? Well, I like quater boiled so every morning I will have 3 quater boiled whole eggs and put some soy sauce and eat all of them in one gulp.jz take 5 egg white, 1 whole egg omelette with a bit of chilly sauce as postworkout meal.. also about 200g of chick breast tofu? hm.. boil tofu vs boil egg zz ==" i cant imagine the taste lol.. haha.. |
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Apr 26 2012, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 09:44 PM) I only workout at home, too shy go to gym because I'm thin,( 175cm, 56kg). I aim for ripped chest and arm. I do push ups 3 times/week. Ohh lol everyone has to start from somewhere, am I right? Usually those big hunks in the gym dont give a damn about others. So just do what you got to do. And my partner even more funny, I consume weight gain now, and he said I will die early. Push up is a great exercise. Make sure to do various kind of push ups. Standard push up, wide push up, diamond push up, incline and decline..make sure you hit all parts of your chest. If you are already in the advance stage, try to do clapping push up front and back. Keep you arms and body balance btw. If not, 1 big 1 small. lol he has his own opinion, let him. This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 26 2012, 09:58 PM |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 09:44 PM) I only workout at home, too shy go to gym because I'm thin,( 175cm, 56kg). I aim for ripped chest and arm. I do push ups 3 times/week. So, you are only focusing on your upper body size? Nice goal you got there but if you managed to achieve your goal and somehow we both met together by destiny, I'll call you chicken leg. |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 09:56 PM) Ohh lol everyone has to start from somewhere, am I right? Usually those big hunks in the gym dont give a damn about others. So just do what you got to do. Thanks so much for that advice man, really appreciate. But I think I will not go to any gym as I'm afraid being laugh. Push up is a great exercise. Make sure to do various kind of push ups. Standard push up, wide push up, diamond push up, incline and decline..make sure you hit all parts of your chest. If you are already in the advance stage, try to do clapping push up front and back. lol he has his own opinion, let him. For so many years I be a joke for my friends, laughing I'm skinny. I gained 3kg in a month now after starting workout and consume as much calories I can ( around 2400 to 3500 calories). Before that I was 53kg, now 56kg. My target 65kg - 70kg. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Apr 26 2012, 10:00 PM) So, you are only focusing on your upper body size? Nice goal you got there but if you managed to achieve your goal and somehow we both met together by destiny, I'll call you chicken leg. my right ankle is injured, doctor said I'm not allow to do heavy workout for my leg for like 3 months. After recovery, I start workout for my lower body. |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 10:05 PM) Thanks so much for that advice man, really appreciate. But I think I will not go to any gym as I'm afraid being laugh. For so many years I be a joke for my friends, laughing I'm skinny. I gained 3kg in a month now after starting workout and consume as much calories I can ( around 2400 to 3500 calories). Before that I was 53kg, now 56kg. My target 65kg - 70kg. QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 10:08 PM) my right ankle is injured, doctor said I'm not allow to do heavy workout for my leg for like 3 months. After recovery, I start workout for my lower body. Welcome..Hahaa I'm lucky to have friends around to give advices, just sharing what gained. Still learning...Find your self confidence and hit the gym one day. You can do much more there. Hopefully it will motivate you more. They might be your laughing stock one day. For legs, maybe with your condition you can do bodyweight squat and lunge. Hold your arms straight in front for more challenging squats. Use the chair or bench to do step-up. |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 10:08 PM) my right ankle is injured, doctor said I'm not allow to do heavy workout for my leg for like 3 months. After recovery, I start workout for my lower body. I see. If that's your reason, that's fine. Just a few pointers, do also focused on your lower body. As per your status, you are seriously underweight right. So, in order to increase mass, you need to focused more whole body instead just on your upper body. And trust me, I saw a person who is 168ish cm and have ripped chest and arm but got a very skinny leg and it is very awkward. Imagine you have that kind of body. QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 10:08 PM) Do get yourself a gym membership. Unless you have a home gym, you need to get to the gym. Push ups ain't doing nothing much on your upper body unless you started to incorporate weight to your push ups. |
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Wtf why are u guys talking about push ups here, of all things? Okay I might sound elitist here but COME ON this is the bb thread!
Your right side is bigger, you say? Do iso work, ie dbs. Stay away from machines. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 26 2012, 10:44 PM) Wtf why are u guys talking about push ups here, of all things? Okay I might sound elitist here but COME ON this is the bb thread! No offense but since when push up is not a body building exercise?Your right side is bigger, you say? Do iso work, ie dbs. Stay away from machines. |
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Cuz once u start deviating into two fingered push ups and push up with weights, eventually we will move into calisthenics which actually has its own thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985666
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 26 2012, 11:03 PM) True but one cannot deny push up is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not, am I right?Added on April 26, 2012, 11:06 pm QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 10:57 PM) Cuz once u start deviating into two fingered push ups and push up with weights, eventually we will move into calisthenics which actually has its own thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985666 Yeap calisthenics. Side track a couple of posts wont hurt i guess. Thanks. This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 26 2012, 11:07 PM |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:05 PM) True but one cannot deny push up is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not, am I right? I guess jerking off can also be a muscle building exercise for your arms , shoulders , lats, upper back. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, I FOUND A NEW COMPOUND MOVEMENT. But I guess one cannot deny jerking of is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or notAdded on April 26, 2012, 11:06 pm Yeap calisthenics. Side track a couple of posts wont hurt i guess. Thanks. This post has been edited by razorboy: Apr 26 2012, 11:11 PM |
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 11:11 PM) I guess jerking off can also be a muscle building exercise for your arms , shoulders , lats, upper back. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, I FOUND A NEW COMPOUND MOVEMENT. But I guess one cannot deny jerking of is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not Its a BB thread. I guess we shall stop here. Thanks for the replies. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 26 2012, 10:44 PM) Wtf why are u guys talking about push ups here, of all things? Okay I might sound elitist here but COME ON this is the bb thread! QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 10:57 PM) Cuz once u start deviating into two fingered push ups and push up with weights, eventually we will move into calisthenics which actually has its own thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985666 Sorry guys, didn't mean to deviate this thread. Thought it was ok thou. Hahaha |
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Dude, I was 50-odd kilos when I started out. Just get over it and get into a gym, eat right, rest well and you'll be the one laughing when you look better than them.
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 11:26 PM) It feels like I'm naked and all of my friends laughing at me instead of motivate me. "Hey look ! A skinny guy try to carry a dumbbell !" Man, you should suck up and be a man. Show them what you really can do. Maybe you are skinny but if you are really motivated, you can change your physique. |
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can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 11:26 PM) It feels like I'm naked and all of my friends laughing at me instead of motivate me. "Hey look ! A skinny guy try to carry a dumbbell !" Regardless how much you weigh, or how you look like, actions talks louder. Get to a gym, put on your headphones, and do your shit. You're gonna get respect from the other guys. And if you don't, screw em. Even if its your friends. QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Apr 26 2012, 11:48 PM) can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete Weighted jerk off. Hang weight plates on your wrists and jerk off. Man I miss DL. Where's the fella when you need him lol |
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QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Apr 26 2012, 11:48 PM) can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete Don't lift any weights. Even coming within a 5 mile radius of a gym will cause your testosterone levels to rise over 9000 units and you will turn into the hulk. |
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The past 2 weeks I screwed up my macros ie. eat lotsa carbs/fats/junks... surprisingly.. i lose fat %. Maybe I've found my sweet spot...
Or maybe i went diving and that burnt the fats up. |
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QUOTE(chastise @ Apr 27 2012, 12:10 PM) The past 2 weeks I screwed up my macros ie. eat lotsa carbs/fats/junks... surprisingly.. i lose fat %. Maybe I've found my sweet spot... sometimes, the more i cheat, the more i lose, the way the body works is funny sometimes...Or maybe i went diving and that burnt the fats up. |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 26 2012, 11:03 PM) Not true, you can do one-handed push ups.You can work up to a really really good strength level with just BW exercises alone - many of which are harder than weights. Just to clarify, I lift weights because I like it. But I also climb with several hardcore climbers and they beat me pound for pound strengthwise. Pull ups, BTN Pull up, muscle up, one-handed pull up, flags, pistol squats - all are not easy at all. But you probably won't get ripped from em unless you have really great genes. Yeah I forgot - handstand pushups too are a killer...... This post has been edited by DJJD: Apr 27 2012, 01:40 PM |
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Apr 27 2012, 01:38 PM) Not true, you can do one-handed push ups. Calisthenics thread >> that way.You can work up to a really really good strength level with just BW exercises alone - many of which are harder than weights. Just to clarify, I lift weights because I like it. But I also climb with several hardcore climbers and they beat me pound for pound strengthwise. Pull ups, BTN Pull up, muscle up, one-handed pull up, flags, pistol squats - all are not easy at all. But you probably won't get ripped from em unless you have really great genes. Yeah I forgot - handstand pushups too are a killer...... This has been argued over and over again, so lets not go there |
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Apr 27 2012, 01:38 PM) Not true, you can do one-handed push ups. Your points are all true, but out of context since he said in terms of building muscle not in terms of the feats you can perform. When in comes to muscle hypertrophy, you can only get so far with bodyweight exercises because you can only load the muscles with your own weight, and after that point, unless you get heavier, you're not going to be able to progressively overload the muscles.You can work up to a really really good strength level with just BW exercises alone - many of which are harder than weights. Just to clarify, I lift weights because I like it. But I also climb with several hardcore climbers and they beat me pound for pound strengthwise. Pull ups, BTN Pull up, muscle up, one-handed pull up, flags, pistol squats - all are not easy at all. But you probably won't get ripped from em unless you have really great genes. Yeah I forgot - handstand pushups too are a killer...... |
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Apr 27 2012, 04:14 PM
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Agree with you on hypertrophy. Weights are always gonna be more efficient and have trackable progress.
But for someone who doesn't want to pay for a gym, assuming they are disciplined enough can build a reasonable amount of muscle with no weights. Check out the "ghetto workouts" video on youtube. Assume handstand pushup for someone at 70kgs. assuming you do one, that is more or less a 160lb military press - which is a lot of weight! While progressive overload can be done by increasing reps not just weight. There is a limit though I agree. |
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Apr 27 2012, 04:14 PM) Agree with you on hypertrophy. Weights are always gonna be more efficient and have trackable progress. Not enough rom for handstand pushups, your head gets in the way. But for someone who doesn't want to pay for a gym, assuming they are disciplined enough can build a reasonable amount of muscle with no weights. Check out the "ghetto workouts" video on youtube. Assume handstand pushup for someone at 70kgs. assuming you do one, that is more or less a 160lb military press - which is a lot of weight! While progressive overload can be done by increasing reps not just weight. There is a limit though I agree. Very different from military presses, those are way harder |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Apr 26 2012, 09:47 PM) cant tahan anymore lol.. i eat em RAW with some chilli/tomato sauce.jz take 5 egg white, 1 whole egg omelette with a bit of chilly sauce as postworkout meal.. also about 200g of chick breast tofu? hm.. boil tofu vs boil egg zz ==" i cant imagine the taste lol.. haha.. And it's not nice but I just chew and swallow. You skipping the yolks because you're controlling your fat intake? Anyways, my pulled chest muscle is killing me. Haven't worked out in > a week and i'm getting really restless. Damn muscle still hurts when I take deep breaths. Wrong muscle to pull. @^&#%@&# |
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Apr 27 2012, 04:14 PM) Agree with you on hypertrophy. Weights are always gonna be more efficient and have trackable progress. But for someone who doesn't want to pay for a gym, assuming they are disciplined enough can build a reasonable amount of muscle with no weights. Check out the "ghetto workouts" video on youtube. Assume handstand pushup for someone at 70kgs. assuming you do one, that is more or less a 160lb military press - which is a lot of weight! While progressive overload can be done by increasing reps not just weight. There is a limit though I agree. QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 27 2012, 05:08 PM) Not enough rom for handstand pushups, your head gets in the way. I'm with mike on this one. The shorter ROM makes it easier to do handstand pushups compared to a military press of equivalent weight. I'm approx. 78kg and I can get a good 10 handstand pushups (and this is after I've trained shoulders and arms earlier today, which are the key muscles in the movement), but I would barely get 5 reps on a 70kg shoulder press. I get what you're trying to put across, just not the best example. Very different from military presses, those are way harder And yes, if someone doesn't have the resources for a gym membership or their own weights, bodyweight is still good for getting in decent shape. But again, that's where the calisthenics thread comes in. |
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Apr 27 2012, 06:02 PM
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just wanna share with you guys. i actually had lower back injuries when i was 16, caused by rugby training. nothing serious, as the doctor said that my lower back muscle stressed and she gave me an injection. everything was going perfect after that.
the only probs is that she already told me that i need to stay away from heavy works/weights as it might cause the problem to occur again. idk why but suddenly i can feel that it happens again this week. but caused of my ego, i still do squats. 1 set of 6 reps, and i'm out. i can't even do lighter weight for the next set. so i stopped. i then tried to do leg extension, and sadly, i can't even do a single rep of 20lbs (as my normal weight is 130lbs). maybe i should take a long rest from deadlifting and squatting. this is so sad. |
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Apr 27 2012, 06:02 PM) just wanna share with you guys. i actually had lower back injuries when i was 16, caused by rugby training. nothing serious, as the doctor said that my lower back muscle stressed and she gave me an injection. everything was going perfect after that. Go to a different doctor for a second opinion, I'd say better a chiropractor or physiotherapist.the only probs is that she already told me that i need to stay away from heavy works/weights as it might cause the problem to occur again. idk why but suddenly i can feel that it happens again this week. but caused of my ego, i still do squats. 1 set of 6 reps, and i'm out. i can't even do lighter weight for the next set. so i stopped. i then tried to do leg extension, and sadly, i can't even do a single rep of 20lbs (as my normal weight is 130lbs). maybe i should take a long rest from deadlifting and squatting. this is so sad. |
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Apr 27 2012, 06:02 PM) just wanna share with you guys. i actually had lower back injuries when i was 16, caused by rugby training. nothing serious, as the doctor said that my lower back muscle stressed and she gave me an injection. everything was going perfect after that. Dude, CHILL! Not doing deadlifts and squats does not mean the end of the world. Take it easy for a while and do more iso movements. Remember, you're in this for the long run. Taking a break from heavy compounds might actually help your progress. You never know.the only probs is that she already told me that i need to stay away from heavy works/weights as it might cause the problem to occur again. idk why but suddenly i can feel that it happens again this week. but caused of my ego, i still do squats. 1 set of 6 reps, and i'm out. i can't even do lighter weight for the next set. so i stopped. i then tried to do leg extension, and sadly, i can't even do a single rep of 20lbs (as my normal weight is 130lbs). maybe i should take a long rest from deadlifting and squatting. this is so sad. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 28 2012, 01:09 AM) Dude, CHILL! Not doing deadlifts and squats does not mean the end of the world. Take it easy for a while and do more iso movements. Remember, you're in this for the long run. Taking a break from heavy compounds might actually help your progress. You never know. will do mike. its just so frustrating when everything was fine, and the weights are increasing. maybe i should stop squatting and deadlifting for a couple weeks and see how it goes.damn i sit and walk like a granny now. |
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Apr 28 2012, 01:32 AM) will do mike. its just so frustrating when everything was fine, and the weights are increasing. maybe i should stop squatting and deadlifting for a couple weeks and see how it goes. you know, i have a bad lower back as well, due to fall in football sometime back.damn i sit and walk like a granny now. i'm doing squat n deadlifts for fun, and in terms of breaking PRs, i take it real slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww it's not that u have time against u, back n legs have tonnes of other exercises |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 28 2012, 09:35 AM) you know, i have a bad lower back as well, due to fall in football sometime back. maybe i should focus on something else. its getting better today as i can walk with no pain. i'm doing squat n deadlifts for fun, and in terms of breaking PRs, i take it real slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww it's not that u have time against u, back n legs have tonnes of other exercises |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Apr 26 2012, 10:47 PM) cant tahan anymore lol.. haha... I almost vomit when eat 10 egg whites omelette..... I put some tomatoes, mushroom etc in the egg to add on its taste and varietyjz take 5 egg white, 1 whole egg omelette with a bit of chilly sauce as postworkout meal.. also about 200g of chick breast tofu? hm.. boil tofu vs boil egg zz ==" i cant imagine the taste lol.. haha.. |
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hey guys where can i get liquid chalk or weightlifting chalk around KL?
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hey guys i wanna ask about the starting strength work out which is pinned.
it consists of workout A and B doing alternating days. but the daily accessory workout have to do everyday? so go to the gym to do 45 degree decline bench weighted situp and hyperextensions? |
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hello brothers. got into a car accident 3 weeks ago, been skipping gym since thendue to body paralysis. now muscle shrunked (O not that i hv a lot to begin with, but sayang laaa) how to preserve while im stuck in d hospital bed? any tips?
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ May 4 2012, 05:27 PM) hello brothers. got into a car accident 3 weeks ago, been skipping gym since thendue to body paralysis. now muscle shrunked (O not that i hv a lot to begin with, but sayang laaa) how to preserve while im stuck in d hospital bed? any tips? That is an awful news, btw here is a tip. Do eat your calorie maintenance. |
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ May 4 2012, 05:35 PM) mean maintain diet? trying vry hard to maintain now, with hospital food n all, n my protein shake 3 times a day Do you know your maintenance calorie? You have to eat at least your maintenance calorie in order to preserve your muscle and mass. If lower than that, you are creating a calorie deficit thus you are going into cutting phase |
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dunno maintenance calorie, but i guess around 2000 calory
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Noob alert!!
i've successfull drop my weight from 86kg until current i'm 75kg by taking fat burner and of coz diet. but my BMI is <70kg, and body fat is 23%. my gym session is 4-5 times a week. and ive been gym for 8 months. but i notice that my muscle dun grow that obvious. or wad sud i do? aim for cutting? |
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ May 4 2012, 05:27 PM) hello brothers. got into a car accident 3 weeks ago, been skipping gym since thendue to body paralysis. now muscle shrunked (O not that i hv a lot to begin with, but sayang laaa) how to preserve while im stuck in d hospital bed? any tips? Sorry to hear that mate.Keep your protein high and, calories just slightly above your maintenance. Posing (in front mirror, if there is one) would be good as well. OH ya, if you are cutting down fat from food, then do take fish oil. Take care and wish you recover swiftly. This post has been edited by VeeJay: May 4 2012, 08:32 PM |
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Hey guys, I'm going on a 1 week vacation and I was wondering what workouts I can perform in order to maintain my muscle mass without hitting the gym/lifting weights since I do not have the luxury of gym over there. Thanks in advance.
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Hi sifus , today i experienced a bad incident whereby i loss my grip when i deadlifting and eventually ended with the bar smashing on the deadlift rack. im clearly knew that not that im unable to lift such weight.. it just happened to me for the first time. i tried even with gloves or without gloves and wiping dry my sweaty palms.. So, i wonder if there any way to prevent this? Or my technique was wrong?? Or due to other reasons??
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May 4 2012, 11:09 PM
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Not a pro here, but my personal problem was that my grip isn't strong enough.
I can lift the weight with my back no prob but my grip always gives way before I can slowly lower the bar. In your case it could be a need for straps but in my case I just need to increase my grip strength. |
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QUOTE(92alvin @ May 4 2012, 10:26 PM) Hi sifus , today i experienced a bad incident whereby i loss my grip when i deadlifting and eventually ended with the bar smashing on the deadlift rack. im clearly knew that not that im unable to lift such weight.. it just happened to me for the first time. i tried even with gloves or without gloves and wiping dry my sweaty palms.. So, i wonder if there any way to prevent this? Or my technique was wrong?? Or due to other reasons?? How much weight were you pulling? |
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Straps r not ideal for beginners. Unless u r deadlfiting weghts 1.5x body weight or more u should not rely on straps. As u lift heavier, your grip will improve as well.
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QUOTE(KoYuKii @ May 4 2012, 08:21 PM) Noob alert!! You are trying to lose weight. Obviously, you won't be able to increase your muscle mass. Since you are trying to lose the fat, continue with cutting first, prolly reducing your body fat to 15% and start bulking phase. Btw, ditch the BMI index. i've successfull drop my weight from 86kg until current i'm 75kg by taking fat burner and of coz diet. but my BMI is <70kg, and body fat is 23%. my gym session is 4-5 times a week. and ive been gym for 8 months. but i notice that my muscle dun grow that obvious. or wad sud i do? aim for cutting? QUOTE(synchun @ May 4 2012, 09:09 PM) Hey guys, I'm going on a 1 week vacation and I was wondering what workouts I can perform in order to maintain my muscle mass without hitting the gym/lifting weights since I do not have the luxury of gym over there. Thanks in advance. IIMO, take this 1 week vacation as an off week from your gym. This way, you can reduce your physical and mental fatigue build up. Sometimes, a body need a reboot too, not just PC and other devices.QUOTE(92alvin @ May 4 2012, 10:26 PM) Hi sifus , today i experienced a bad incident whereby i loss my grip when i deadlifting and eventually ended with the bar smashing on the deadlift rack. im clearly knew that not that im unable to lift such weight.. it just happened to me for the first time. i tried even with gloves or without gloves and wiping dry my sweaty palms.. So, i wonder if there any way to prevent this? Or my technique was wrong?? Or due to other reasons?? You are deadlifting on deadlift rack? Aren't deadlift should start from the floor? These are some advices from my current experience.1. switch your deadlift grip. It is recommended for you to do double underhand for the first few set and the last set, switch it into underhand + overhand grip. 2. My grip for max effort deadlift (1x5) is underhand + overhand but I always do dynamic deadlift 80% 5x5 on another day with my underhand grip. I named this method as grip explosive deadlift (train my grip, aim for explosiveness). 3. Use strap but I wouldn't recommend it as it will train your grip less. If you are aiming for a PR, then it is ok. But somehow you must train your grip onw way or another. |
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QUOTE(strinq @ May 5 2012, 12:31 AM) Not a pro here, but my personal problem was that my grip isn't strong enough. but how to increas grip strength?I can lift the weight with my back no prob but my grip always gives way before I can slowly lower the bar. In your case it could be a need for straps but in my case I just need to increase my grip strength. QUOTE(gnsumas @ May 5 2012, 12:35 AM) 80kgsQUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 5 2012, 12:54 AM) Straps r not ideal for beginners. Unless u r deadlfiting weghts 1.5x body weight or more u should not rely on straps. As u lift heavier, your grip will improve as well. oic. thanks for d info. im not that pro yet. im lifting maybe 1.05x only. QUOTE(alien9 @ May 5 2012, 12:57 AM) You are deadlifting on deadlift rack? Aren't deadlift should start from the floor? These are some advices from my current experience. the gym doesnt spacious enough. but the rack is very low and it was like no different from the floor. 1. switch your deadlift grip. It is recommended for you to do double underhand for the first few set and the last set, switch it into underhand + overhand grip. 2. My grip for max effort deadlift (1x5) is underhand + overhand but I always do dynamic deadlift 80% 5x5 on another day with my underhand grip. I named this method as grip explosive deadlift (train my grip, aim for explosiveness). 3. Use strap but I wouldn't recommend it as it will train your grip less. If you are aiming for a PR, then it is ok. But somehow you must train your grip onw way or another. thanks for the info and frankly speaking i dont like to wear gloves or straps as well. but no choice, too pain when lifting such weight.. |
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Any of you feel pain while doing exercises such DB lateral and front raise? If yes, what you guys do to replace them for your shoulder?
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Straps do not make one less hardcore than those who shy away from straps.
Your grip is the limiting factor between your back and the weights, if you want a good back workout, you have to make sure your grip isn't part of the equation. HOWEVER, straps are not to be abused. Use it wisely. A over + under grip is generally understood as a powerlifting grip, mostly because no straps are allowed. In your training(unless you're training for a meet), using straps won't get you disqualified. A mix grip however will put your biceps in a vulnerable position. I'd advised someone who wants to train their grip do their grip training separately rather than doing it from deadlifting. The last thing anyone wants is a torn bicep tendon from deadlifting over + under. But then again, nothing wrong with deadlifting with no straps. I don't use straps from time to time. But I stay double over. Nonetheless, this is just a word of advice. "You can do whatever the f*** YOU WANNA DO!" -Hodgetwins- JK on the quote btw, don't take it the wrong way. |
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QUOTE(razorboy @ May 6 2012, 12:10 AM) Straps do not make one less hardcore than those who shy away from straps. I once used a over + under grip and it is a hell of an awkward grip for me. Seems very discomfort but it get the job done; better than double overhand. But I ain't gonna do that again so double overhand for me all the way. Might not be using any straps maybe until 500 lbsYour grip is the limiting factor between your back and the weights, if you want a good back workout, you have to make sure your grip isn't part of the equation. HOWEVER, straps are not to be abused. Use it wisely. A over + under grip is generally understood as a powerlifting grip, mostly because no straps are allowed. In your training(unless you're training for a meet), using straps won't get you disqualified. A mix grip however will put your biceps in a vulnerable position. I'd advised someone who wants to train their grip do their grip training separately rather than doing it from deadlifting. The last thing anyone wants is a torn bicep tendon from deadlifting over + under. But then again, nothing wrong with deadlifting with no straps. I don't use straps from time to time. But I stay double over. Nonetheless, this is just a word of advice. "You can do whatever the f*** YOU WANNA DO!" -Hodgetwins- JK on the quote btw, don't take it the wrong way. |
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From my recent favourite YouTube channel, PhysiquesOfGreatness. Love all their vids, very informative and entertaining to watch:
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Where can I get this kind of bar/grib ? |
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kinda hav difficult time wit daily schedule..
so , is it okay to workout by night ? 8 - 10 pm ? or even morning ? 8 - 10 am? pro n cons ? my trainer said morning isn't great time for workout ? advice.. tq .. |
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May 7 2012, 07:46 PM
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May 7 2012, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(afan92 @ May 7 2012, 07:25 PM) kinda hav difficult time wit daily schedule.. and you just nod and didnt ask your trainer why he said that? so , is it okay to workout by night ? 8 - 10 pm ? or even morning ? 8 - 10 am? pro n cons ? my trainer said morning isn't great time for workout ? advice.. tq .. Simply put, there is no right or wrong here. Working out in the morning is fine as long as you get your breakfast right. You need plenty of fuel to do the heavy lifting. If you are an early person, you will wake up at 5am feel so pumped. Whereas some people prefer to do it later in the evening. Everything falls down to your diet eventually. This post has been edited by Dagger69: May 7 2012, 07:48 PM |
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May 7 2012, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(afan92 @ May 7 2012, 07:25 PM) kinda hav difficult time wit daily schedule.. emm I dont know about ur body, but I workout at noon/evening. Morning i sleep. Night i work. The point is, just pick what ever time u like, as long as ur body r comfortable/can adapt to it. There is no fix time to hit the iron. This is from what i experienced. Maybe seniors or other forumer got different suggestion/thought about it. so , is it okay to workout by night ? 8 - 10 pm ? or even morning ? 8 - 10 am? pro n cons ? my trainer said morning isn't great time for workout ? advice.. tq .. |
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May 7 2012, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ May 7 2012, 07:47 PM) and you just nod and didnt ask your trainer why he said that? he said something bout endocrine something..Simply put, there is no right or wrong here. Working out in the morning is fine as long as you get your breakfast right. You need plenty of fuel to do the heavy lifting. If you are an early person, you will wake up at 5am feel so pumped. Whereas some people prefer to do it later in the evening. Everything falls down to your diet eventually. thnx for advice , felling |
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May 7 2012, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(afan92 @ May 7 2012, 07:56 PM) he said something bout endocrine something.. I guess everyone has their own timing and opinion.thnx for advice , felling I asked a dude once in the gym. What he do is he take advantage of an empty stomach and use superpump or no-xplode cant rmb. Right after workout, protein shakes..and then breakfast. This post has been edited by Dagger69: May 7 2012, 08:02 PM |
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What are regular practice for building my abs? should i need to remove the fat first?
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May 7 2012, 08:02 PM
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May 7 2012, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(afan92 @ May 7 2012, 07:25 PM) kinda hav difficult time wit daily schedule.. The best time to workout is when you feel like you want to workout. Doesn't matter if you have higher testosterone in the evening but if you have shitty workout, then you have shitty gain. I always train in the morning, around 8.30 am the earliest (send my gf to uni, I went to Uni gym). Less people and all the gym for me. so , is it okay to workout by night ? 8 - 10 pm ? or even morning ? 8 - 10 am? pro n cons ? my trainer said morning isn't great time for workout ? advice.. tq .. I always doing my workout fasted since I'm on leangains diet. Still managed to do Squat PR and Deadlift PR every time I need to. |
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May 7 2012, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 7 2012, 08:27 PM) The best time to workout is when you feel like you want to workout. Doesn't matter if you have higher testosterone in the evening but if you have shitty workout, then you have shitty gain. I always train in the morning, around 8.30 am the earliest (send my gf to uni, I went to Uni gym). Less people and all the gym for me. thats it, something bout gland excretion ..I always doing my workout fasted since I'm on leangains diet. Still managed to do Squat PR and Deadlift PR every time I need to. thnx so any other meals than can gain my energy back after mowning workout besides protein shake is?? still wandering.. |
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May 7 2012, 08:37 PM
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May 7 2012, 09:09 PM
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May 10 2012, 03:33 PM
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tis thread has been so quiet for a while
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May 10 2012, 05:58 PM
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does anyone know where to get some good resistance bands? figured they might be useful when traveling.
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May 10 2012, 08:33 PM
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What does a 5x5 workout mean?
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May 10 2012, 08:38 PM
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May 10 2012, 10:46 PM
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hm.. i nvr try though.. i oni tried those i mentioned bcz it's killing me lol..
i only go for 2 weeks den i stop |
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May 16 2012, 02:47 AM
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Finally I i gained 6kg in 2 months, from 54kg to 60kg. No junk food, I eat clean from egg, fish, chicken, mass gain and milk.
But I still look skinny as shit. I'm 175cm, 60kg. My friend 171cm but he is only 57kg. How could possible he looks fatter and his arm is bigger than me ? |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 16 2012, 02:47 AM) Finally I i gained 6kg in 2 months, from 54kg to 60kg. No junk food, I eat clean from egg, fish, chicken, mass gain and milk. He got a lot more lean muscle than you. Or he have a bigger frame.But I still look skinny as shit. I'm 175cm, 60kg. My friend 171cm but he is only 57kg. How could possible he looks fatter and his arm is bigger than me ? |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 16 2012, 02:47 AM) Finally I i gained 6kg in 2 months, from 54kg to 60kg. No junk food, I eat clean from egg, fish, chicken, mass gain and milk. fat is lighter than muscle.But I still look skinny as shit. I'm 175cm, 60kg. My friend 171cm but he is only 57kg. How could possible he looks fatter and his arm is bigger than me ? |
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May 16 2012, 01:53 PM
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May 16 2012, 05:54 PM
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Fat is less dense than muscle.
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May 16 2012, 06:41 PM
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1kg of fat is the same weight with 1 kg of muscle. But comparing with volume between muscle and fat, 1kg of fat have bigger volume than 1kg of muscle.
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Therefore, assume you are comparing muscle and fat of the same volume. Fats are lighter. Lets move along now shall we? |
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May 16 2012, 06:56 PM
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![]() Out topic. Rocky is so damn mini compare with Arnold. |
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May 17 2012, 09:55 AM
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yeah...but rocky is in much greater shape now compared to arnie..haha
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anyone training today??
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May 17 2012, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 17 2012, 01:23 PM) PHAT Back and Shoulder Hypertrophy on Keto Diet. Felt very tired but able to finish all the routine.I've done: 1. Pendlay Row 6x3 2. Chin Up (Front, Wide Grip) 3x12 3. Cable Row (V-Grip) 3x12 4. One Arm Barbell Row supersetted with Meadow Row 2x12 6. Pulldown (Front, V-Grip) 2x20 7. Triple Triad by CT of T-nation (Front Raise, Lateral Raise and Bent Over Raise in one set) 3x10 10. Shoulder Press 2x10 11. T-Bar Row (Wide Grip) 3x10 This post has been edited by alien9: May 17 2012, 02:18 PM |
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May 17 2012, 02:16 PM
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Back day
Deadlifts Weighted chin ups Single arm rows because my left lat is smaller Bb rows or pulldowns Followed by curls if I still have anything left. (Probably won't lol) |
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May 17 2012, 02:21 PM
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alien9: what is PHAT back??
Mikehuan: Kill your back haha.. Im going for shoulder today. Standing military press DB site lateral raise Bent over rear delt DB shoulder press Cable side lateral raise machine reverse fly front DB lateral raise upright row shrug press 4 sets lateral raise 3 sets sounds alot lol.. |
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May 17 2012, 02:23 PM
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Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training (PHAT) by Dr. Layne Norton. Today is the Back and Shoulder hypertrophy day.
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May 17 2012, 02:43 PM
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U two are nuts lol. 30 plus sets???
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May 17 2012, 02:55 PM
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Owh yea, forgot that I also do 2x10 Dumbbell Shrug.
QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2012, 02:43 PM) Is it normal? -Dan recommend me this routine and I modified a bit.Well, mine is 34 set for back and shoulder. MelForC3 done 30+ sets just for his shoulder. Hahaha This post has been edited by alien9: May 17 2012, 02:58 PM |
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Today is Biceps day for me.
EZ-Bar Curl 3 x 8 DB Preacher Curl 3 x 8 Reverse EZ-Bar Curl3 x 8 Alternate DB Bicep Curl 3 x 8 HIIT on treadmill 20 mins. |
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May 17 2012, 05:22 PM
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haha maybe la.. seriously my shoulder dont develop, weakest part now is my delts and lower chest..
try to do more type of exercise, see whether it works out or not.. so far so good.. VoodooEx: U r hitting so much of ur inner bicep, try to target the long head |
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May 17 2012, 05:52 PM
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I went to gym today, alone.
Please advice how should I workout. Today's workout Bench press 6set x till failure(usually between 6-10 reps) Chin ups 6set x till failure ( 4 - 8 reps) ![]() What's this equipment name ? I pull 6set x 8reps Should I do more or I'm overdo ? I feel pain on my chest and arm but it is acceptable. This post has been edited by WiLeKiyO: May 17 2012, 05:53 PM |
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May 17 2012, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 05:52 PM) I went to gym today, alone. That machine is called pulldown machine. Well, you have bench press for chest, chin up for back and pulldown for back. Is that your today exercise? Chest and Back or do you left some exercises out?Please advice how should I workout. Today's workout Bench press 6set x till failure(usually between 6-10 reps) Chin ups 6set x till failure ( 4 - 8 reps) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « What's this equipment name ? I pull 6set x 8reps Should I do more or I'm overdo ? I feel pain on my chest and arm but it is acceptable. |
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May 17 2012, 09:09 PM
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May 17 2012, 09:16 PM
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May 17 2012, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 17 2012, 05:22 PM) haha maybe la.. seriously my shoulder dont develop, weakest part now is my delts and lower chest.. Thanks for tip. I'll look into it.try to do more type of exercise, see whether it works out or not.. so far so good.. VoodooEx: U r hitting so much of ur inner bicep, try to target the long head |
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May 17 2012, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(VoodooEx @ May 17 2012, 09:19 PM) If you have, let say a tricep day, it is best for you to pick several exercises that target different area of the intended muscle. Just like chest, you have upper pec and lower pec. Pick the exercises that will ensure that your upper pec and lower pec develop together, not letting a muscle lagging behind another muscle. Just like the delts, if you only do front raise and lateral raise but didn't do any rear delt exercise, you will have a trouble there. |
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I can do beyond 6 sets but I'm afraid I'm overdo which cause my muscle injured and not develop.
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May 17 2012, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 09:52 PM) well, MelForC3 are doing 30+ sets for just his shoulder, not upper body so I don't think that 6 sets for upper body will consider overtraining. Where do you get your routine? Or you created one for yourself? |
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May 17 2012, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 17 2012, 09:57 PM) well, MelForC3 are doing 30+ sets for just his shoulder, not upper body so I don't think that 6 sets for upper body will consider overtraining. Where do you get your routine? Or you created one for yourself? I create myself.Where can I get a full routine for beginner ? |
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May 17 2012, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 09:59 PM) Haha. Thought so. Well, usually the routine that is good for beginner is stronglifts 5x5, starting strength, 5/3/1, all those routine that incorporate compound movements. It is the best for beginner and even advance weightlifter as compound exercises engage lots of muscle comparing iso exercises (iso is good when you already intermediate).Pick one, I recommend you stronglifts 5x5, build you strength from there and when the time comes for split, you find the best split. |
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May 17 2012, 10:15 PM
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I create myself hahaha... im not following any style...
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May 17 2012, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 10:09 PM) So you mean do as many as possible until failure ? Usually I do 6 - 10 reps which the last reps making me blue face. thats up to you. some people prefer doing till failure on their last sets, some prefer to fail on all their sets.but if you're overtraining, trust me you'll feel like shit. your poundages drop, you feel tired all the time, recovery time gets longer, etc etc |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2012, 10:16 PM) thats up to you. some people prefer doing till failure on their last sets, some prefer to fail on all their sets. Thanks so much buddy. It's really hard to train alone, I only have stupid friend keep laughing me skinny.but if you're overtraining, trust me you'll feel like shit. your poundages drop, you feel tired all the time, recovery time gets longer, etc etc |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 10:20 PM) Thanks so much buddy. It's really hard to train alone, I only have stupid friend keep laughing me skinny. i train alone as well. you'll get used to it. only thing that should concern you is your safety when doing free weights, haha. and ignore negativity, everyone starts somewhere. just a matter of time before they shut up, if you do everything right |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 10:20 PM) Thanks so much buddy. It's really hard to train alone, I only have stupid friend keep laughing me skinny. Don't bother them at all. Learn as much knowledge as you can in weightlifting, nutrition, etc2 and then show them the results from it. When you have the body like Mikehuan, MelForC3, and Darklight, then you will see who is laughing right?I have been training alone since I started weightlifting. No need someone who isn't going to help me increase my workrate, motivate me. But if I found someone like Dorian Yates partner, I would love to have them. Check out Dorian Yates training video, his partner is just like an army, yelling while motivating him. This post has been edited by alien9: May 17 2012, 10:26 PM |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2012, 10:24 PM) i train alone as well. you'll get used to it. only thing that should concern you is your safety when doing free weights, haha. It really takes time bro, I already train for 2 months + eat clean. I gained 6kg and ignore negativity, everyone starts somewhere. just a matter of time before they shut up, if you do everything right But my body is not noticeable and still skinny as shit. I guess I should work harder. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 17 2012, 10:25 PM) Don't bother them at all. Learn as much knowledge as you can in weightlifting, nutrition, etc2 and then show them the results from it. When you have the body like Mikehuan, MelForC3, and Darklight, then you will see who is laughing right? ermmmm, you grouping me with THEM?! I have been training alone since I started weightlifting. No need someone who isn't going to help me increase my workrate, motivate me. But if I found someone like Dorian Yates partner, I would love to have them. Check out Dorian Yates training video, his partner is just like an army, yelling while motivating him. totally out of my league LOL. |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 17 2012, 10:28 PM) It really takes time bro, I already train for 2 months + eat clean. I gained 6kg 2 months is very short duration to see gains. people do this for years. in fact, i wont consider myself advanced until i reach my fifth year doing weights consistently. But my body is not noticeable and still skinny as shit. I guess I should work harder. patience is the key virtue here. however, being a beginner you should really take advantage of your beginner gains. start on programs like starting strength or 5/3/1 |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2012, 10:33 PM) 2 months is very short duration to see gains. people do this for years. in fact, i wont consider myself advanced until i reach my fifth year doing weights consistently. First of all, you need to know whats the your TARGET. Set it and learn more about training and nutrition. Apply it on a plan and track it daily. patience is the key virtue here. however, being a beginner you should really take advantage of your beginner gains. start on programs like starting strength or 5/3/1 Always learn more by google search or youtube and train CONSISTENTLY. By learning the right way and working hard, soon you are on your way. Keep it up |
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QUOTE(NutritionPro @ May 17 2012, 11:00 PM) First of all, you need to know whats the your TARGET. Set it and learn more about training and nutrition. Apply it on a plan and track it daily. Lol. Good advice nonthelessAlways learn more by google search or youtube and train CONSISTENTLY. By learning the right way and working hard, soon you are on your way. Keep it up |
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May 17 2012, 11:21 PM
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Just simply click on it and reply. Does it really matter much? If yes sorry for that
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QUOTE(NutritionPro @ May 17 2012, 11:21 PM) Got me wondering, thats all. Not really familiar with forum etiquette are you?Added on May 17, 2012, 11:55 pm QUOTE(NutritionPro @ May 17 2012, 11:21 PM) Got me wondering, thats all. Not really familiar with forum etiquette are you?This post has been edited by mikehuan: May 17 2012, 11:55 PM |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 17 2012, 11:54 PM) Got me wondering, thats all. Not really familiar with forum etiquette are you? lol grow up man Added on May 17, 2012, 11:55 pm Got me wondering, thats all. Not really familiar with forum etiquette are you? Agree with Jamis cheer |
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Aaannnddd......back to the topic.
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Guys, I not sure maybe I gained to much weight recently , even tough I'm thin but I have little belly fat.
Should I stop eating progressively ? Or I should focus more on my tummy ? p.s: I eat clean, no fast food, no fried chicken, no junk food. This post has been edited by WiLeKiyO: May 18 2012, 10:34 PM |
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 18 2012, 10:31 PM) Guys, I not sure maybe I gained to much weight recently , even tough I'm thin but I have little belly fat. Well, it is a normal when you are bulking. The calorie surplus will increase your fat mass and your muscle mass. A tip for you, try to reduce your calorie intake a little bit. Means that if you have 300 calorie surplus, reduce it to 200.Should I stop eating progressively ? Or I should focus more on my tummy ? p.s: I eat clean, no fast food, no fried chicken, no junk food. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 18 2012, 11:06 PM) Well, it is a normal when you are bulking. The calorie surplus will increase your fat mass and your muscle mass. A tip for you, try to reduce your calorie intake a little bit. Means that if you have 300 calorie surplus, reduce it to 200. not sure it works for u. unless u cut for competition, don't make cutting sound like a rocket science. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 18 2012, 11:06 PM) Well, it is a normal when you are bulking. The calorie surplus will increase your fat mass and your muscle mass. A tip for you, try to reduce your calorie intake a little bit. Means that if you have 300 calorie surplus, reduce it to 200. I guess I reduce 1 scoop of mass gain ?Stupid fat Btw, I gonna hit gym again tomorrow for my abs and leg workout. My back and arm still pain like hell. Thank you so much aline9 for giving me useful advises. |
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May 18 2012, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 18 2012, 11:11 PM) not sure it works for u. unless u cut for competition, don't make cutting sound like a rocket science. From my opinion, you can either eat a large calorie surplus, maybe for 8 weeks and then you cut for 2 weeks or you can eat low calorie surplus and didn't need to do any cutting.Added on May 19, 2012, 12:09 am QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 18 2012, 11:15 PM) I guess I reduce 1 scoop of mass gain ? I'm just what I know. Maybe more experience people have a better opinion. I'm still learning here. The fat is not bad. Try to see a bodybuilder who is off season and you will see that they are bulking and have higher body fat percentage compared to their on season. Stupid fat Btw, I gonna hit gym again tomorrow for my abs and leg workout. My back and arm still pain like hell. Thank you so much aline9 for giving me useful advises. QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 18 2012, 10:31 PM) Guys, I not sure maybe I gained to much weight recently , even tough I'm thin but I have little belly fat. Owh yea, btw, what do you mean by focus more on your tummy?Should I stop eating progressively ? Or I should focus more on my tummy ? p.s: I eat clean, no fast food, no fried chicken, no junk food. This post has been edited by alien9: May 19 2012, 12:10 AM |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 18 2012, 11:16 PM) From my opinion, you can either eat a large calorie surplus, maybe for 8 weeks and then you cut for 2 weeks or you can eat low calorie surplus and didn't need to do any cutting. Workout such as sit ups that stress your tummy and abs (six packs).Added on May 19, 2012, 12:09 am I'm just what I know. Maybe more experience people have a better opinion. I'm still learning here. The fat is not bad. Try to see a bodybuilder who is off season and you will see that they are bulking and have higher body fat percentage compared to their on season. Owh yea, btw, what do you mean by focus more on your tummy? I know it's hard for my muscle to grow without doing deadlift and squats. My Condo's gym no provide. This post has been edited by WiLeKiyO: May 19 2012, 02:46 AM |
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I recall Dan (or was it mikehuan or Alhpa
Hope you guys can explain more on why that is so. And where's the most cost effective place I can visit in KL/SEL. This post has been edited by entryman: May 19 2012, 04:46 PM |
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the whole trouble with nutrition and bodybuilding is that our body cannot tell the exact amount of food to eat... sometimes we think we are not eating enough but in fact we are wasting food when we over eat =.=
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QUOTE(DurianCoconut @ May 20 2012, 04:52 PM) the whole trouble with nutrition and bodybuilding is that our body cannot tell the exact amount of food to eat... sometimes we think we are not eating enough but in fact we are wasting food when we over eat =.= this is in reply to ?maybe you have a guide on like 200g meat a meal etc, but each of us have different absorption capabilities anyway, that's why before embarking on any kind of nutritional plan, people are advised to find out their maintenance calories first. Finding out at what calories does their body maintain and hence proceed from there to either eat at a surplus or deficit. |
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I'm new to bb and wishing to start on a program next month. Does anyone know of a gym at Setapak or surrounding areas (e.g. genting kelang/melawati/wangsa maju/etc.) that has the following equipment? Pay per entry would be great. Thanks in advance!
Machines only: Leg Press Pull-down Shoulder Press Slight incline/decline bench press This post has been edited by entryman: May 20 2012, 11:03 PM |
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anyone went for Mr.Penang @ Gurney Plaza today? kindly share some info if you did
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guys, may i know why over months, my strength went up, but not weight? im still 62 KG, but my bench went from 40kg ~55kg, and leg press machine 40KG~60KG, but still my weight did not went up( the above lifts are not 1 rep max, it is 8 reps for 4 sets)
i know gaining weight is about calories in VS out, so i try eat as much, and i am pretty sure i reached about 2.8k calorie averagely, but still my weight fluctuates, sometimes it will go up to 64 but 1 week later back to 62 or 61 FYI* im 165cm 62KG |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 09:43 AM) guys, may i know why over months, my strength went up, but not weight? im still 62 KG, but my bench went from 40kg ~55kg, and leg press machine 40KG~60KG, but still my weight did not went up( the above lifts are not 1 rep max, it is 8 reps for 4 sets) You might not be eating enough. The solution is obvious: to at least track for a week, before you get comfortable with the figures and stop tracking.i know gaining weight is about calories in VS out, so i try eat as much, and i am pretty sure i reached about 2.8k calorie averagely, but still my weight fluctuates, sometimes it will go up to 64 but 1 week later back to 62 or 61 FYI* im 165cm 62KG You might have also been losing fats. |
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QUOTE(entryman @ May 21 2012, 12:02 PM) You might not be eating enough. The solution is obvious: to at least track for a week, before you get comfortable with the figures and stop tracking. i used some online calcutator and got my BMR of 1.6k, which is excluding daily activities, so i add another 1k~1.2k on top....You might have also been losing fats. i think i should go at least 3k calories |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 01:16 PM) i used some online calcutator and got my BMR of 1.6k, which is excluding daily activities, so i add another 1k~1.2k on top.... I believe your previous 2.8k is enough for now. Just make sure it really is 2.8k, through proper tracking.i think i should go at least 3k calories |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 09:43 AM) guys, may i know why over months, my strength went up, but not weight? im still 62 KG, but my bench went from 40kg ~55kg, and leg press machine 40KG~60KG, but still my weight did not went up( the above lifts are not 1 rep max, it is 8 reps for 4 sets) Higher strength does not equal to big muscle. When you are in calorie deficit, you are surely wont be growing your muscle but you can increase your strength up to certain level.i know gaining weight is about calories in VS out, so i try eat as much, and i am pretty sure i reached about 2.8k calorie averagely, but still my weight fluctuates, sometimes it will go up to 64 but 1 week later back to 62 or 61 FYI* im 165cm 62KG If your weight is decreasing, there might be two possibilities. The first one is you measure your weight incorrectly. Measure your weight during early morning without consume any fluid and after you throw away all your urine and feces. If you sure that you take your weight measurement correctly, then see possibility number two. The second possibility is that you are in calorie deficit. Nuff said. Maybe you are tracking your calorie intake but maybe you do it wrong. For me, it is hard to count calorie if I eat outside. If I do the cooking, yes, I can count my calorie correctly. |
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QUOTE(entryman @ May 21 2012, 01:35 PM) I believe your previous 2.8k is enough for now. Just make sure it really is 2.8k, through proper tracking. hmm, i think i'll just try eat alil bit more then what i has been eating, cause i didnt really count exact calories, i count them by estimated, sometimes traditional chinese dinner, its hard to count them QUOTE(alien9 @ May 21 2012, 01:51 PM) Higher strength does not equal to big muscle. When you are in calorie deficit, you are surely wont be growing your muscle but you can increase your strength up to certain level. i measured it morning after i poop If your weight is decreasing, there might be two possibilities. The first one is you measure your weight incorrectly. Measure your weight during early morning without consume any fluid and after you throw away all your urine and feces. If you sure that you take your weight measurement correctly, then see possibility number two. The second possibility is that you are in calorie deficit. Nuff said. Maybe you are tracking your calorie intake but maybe you do it wrong. For me, it is hard to count calorie if I eat outside. If I do the cooking, yes, I can count my calorie correctly. |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 06:24 PM) hmm, i think i'll just try eat alil bit more then what i has been eating, cause i didnt really count exact calories, i count them by estimated, sometimes traditional chinese dinner, its hard to count them More meat, until the cumulative size is that of a normal steak. As much vegetables and legumes as you can. Beans are your protein and carbs source. Leafy vegetables prevent you from getting sick. Less rice, or even better, no rice. Increase on the others. Two to four fruits as well. Avocado is great since its high in good fats, double the calories! One whole mango can give you lots of carbs and vitamins at the same time. Mixed salad with tuna is also a great choice since not only can you get the necessary complex carbs and abundant vitamins and minerals from it, you can also add some olive oil which is pure fats and contributes to calories.i measured it morning after i poop This post has been edited by entryman: May 21 2012, 06:37 PM |
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QUOTE(entryman @ May 21 2012, 06:29 PM) More meat, until the cumulative size is that of a normal steak. As much vegetables and legumes as you can. Beans are your protein and carbs source. Leafy vegetables prevent you from getting sick. Less rice, or even better, no rice. Increase on the others. Two to four fruits as well. Avocado is great since its high in good fats, double the calories! One whole mango can give you lots of carbs and vitamins at the same time. so ur nottingham student right? then maybe you ate their chicken rice? can i know how much calories is in that chicken rice with breast + extra meat ? then i can compare that with some of the meal i ate at my house for more accurate estimate |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 06:36 PM) so ur nottingham student right? then maybe you ate their chicken rice? can i know how much calories is in that chicken rice with breast + extra meat ? then i can compare that with some of the meal i ate at my house for more accurate estimate Will get back to you on the exact figure. Been a long time since I count, lol.For now, my rough estimate for chicken rice (roasted chicken + oil rice) plus extra meat is about 600 calories. |
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QUOTE(entryman @ May 21 2012, 06:41 PM) Will get back to you on the exact figure. Been a long time since I count, lol. wow, so little only, i thought it was around 700 For now, my rough estimate for chicken rice (roasted chicken + oil rice) plus extra meat is about 600 calories. |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 06:43 PM) wow, so little only, i thought it was around 700 Could be 700 also.If I were to eat about two pieces of deboned skinless chicken breast (about 250g), that would be roughly 250 calories. I would use about 2 tablespoon of oil to fry it. 1 tablespoon of oil is about 130 calories. Total that would be 260 calories. Subtotal = 510 calories. 1 cup of white rice would be about 200 calories. Oil rice, probably about 250 calories? Total: 760 calories. I was working on the assumption that you are eating less chicken than this. wow, my initial estimation not too bad hahaha This post has been edited by entryman: May 21 2012, 06:53 PM |
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really paid attention at upper body, when comes to lower..especially legs.. suddenly hurts la, fell hungry..
need motivation dear forum er , and god of muscle of cause.. |
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calorie count is good, but dont rely on it too much. when some calculator says u need 3kcal and u r not growing, u r not eating enough. common sense is better...
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 21 2012, 07:26 PM) calorie count is good, but dont rely on it too much. when some calculator says u need 3kcal and u r not growing, u r not eating enough. common sense is better... Everyone's gotta start with some basic education on what a calorie is and how it works. Anyway, still haven't got a reply for the two questions I posted up earlier, one on chiropractor, and another one on available gyms. |
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WTA noob question here, pre=before post=after, if intra?? xtend need to drink before/after/during workout?
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QUOTE(Zeekgreymon @ May 22 2012, 08:50 AM) WTA noob question here, pre=before post=after, if intra?? xtend need to drink before/after/during workout? i prefer to to sip during workout.. den finish it right after my workout Added on May 22, 2012, 9:22 am QUOTE(afan92 @ May 21 2012, 07:01 PM) really paid attention at upper body, when comes to lower..especially legs.. suddenly hurts la, fell hungry.. is only your mind... i had that back then bt now i go crazy with every part hehe...need motivation dear forum er , and god of muscle of cause.. big body, small leg = imbalance try work it out.. This post has been edited by MelForC3: May 22 2012, 09:22 AM |
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QUOTE(Zeekgreymon @ May 22 2012, 08:50 AM) WTA noob question here, pre=before post=after, if intra?? xtend need to drink before/after/during workout? intra is during workout.No hard rules here. I take bcaa before workouts. Generally people use it as an intra workout supp, since they got supps for pre and post already lol. I don't use pre workouts so I can take it at the beginning |
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QUOTE(afan92 @ May 21 2012, 07:01 PM) really paid attention at upper body, when comes to lower..especially legs.. suddenly hurts la, fell hungry.. U really need to pay attention on lower body training. Because testosterone level is going up during larger muscle group training such as squat, deadlift, etc. the more muscle group engaged, the stronger stimulation of testosterone! It can promote muscle growth after your workout!need motivation dear forum er , and god of muscle of cause.. So don't be lazy! |
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my belly not reduced after many time sit up.. how to solve? jogging like hell to sweat but still no different. just my leg muscle in good shape (under knee).. guys! help me..
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wheres the abhancer pic? someone post it lol.
read stickies, this damn question has been answered a billion times. tl:dr ver check your diet. sit ups dont work. |
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last time before i start lifting weight, i do diet.. most of the time i take veggie and white rice, is small portion..
gotta agree with you, it never be cheap if really wanna eat nice "clean" food.. cook urself |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ May 22 2012, 11:25 AM) last time before i start lifting weight, i do diet.. most of the time i take veggie and white rice, is small portion.. currently doing practical training, no time to back home to cook. so, I need to eat small portion only? but why my belly size not reduce if I don't eat at all?gotta agree with you, it never be cheap if really wanna eat nice "clean" food.. cook urself |
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ May 21 2012, 06:24 PM) hmm, i think i'll just try eat alil bit more then what i has been eating, cause i didnt really count exact calories, i count them by estimated, sometimes traditional chinese dinner, its hard to count them That is why I don't like to eat outside, since I don't know how much oil, salt, fat etc2 in a meal. Right now, I always cook at home. Just ate my lunch and this is my macro nutrition for the meal.25 gram of CED Peanut Butter (2 tablespoons) = p 7.3g, c 2.2g, f 12.7g 3 First Choice Egg = p 25.5g, c 0g, f 22.0g 1 can of BlueBay Shredded Tuna = p 45.9, c 0g, f 0.4g 30 gram of Planta (3 tablespoons) = p 0g, c 0g, f 24.6 g Total: 859 kcal, p 78g, 2g, f 59 g Simple right? This post has been edited by alien9: May 22 2012, 02:12 PM |
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QUOTE(mhisyam6 @ May 22 2012, 10:59 AM) my belly not reduced after many time sit up.. how to solve? jogging like hell to sweat but still no different. just my leg muscle in good shape (under knee).. guys! help me.. Have you even google on how to lose the belly fat? I know you didn't, that is why you ask that kind of question. But then, if you didn't even try to google, how do you know that sit up can reduce your tummy in the first place? I just want to know, not bashing you. Just want to know why do you opted for sit up to lose your belly fat. |
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QUOTE(afan92 @ May 21 2012, 07:01 PM) really paid attention at upper body, when comes to lower..especially legs.. suddenly hurts la, fell hungry.. It is a waste of you don't train your lower body. Testosterone, one of the main element in building your muscle will be generate more when you are doing exercises that engages lots of muscle @ compound exercise. And what is the best compound exercises? I would say the big 3 which is Squat, Deadlift and Bench. 2 of these exercises are lower body exercise and by not doing them, you just waste a great opportunity.need motivation dear forum er , and god of muscle of cause.. |
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QUOTE(mhisyam6 @ May 22 2012, 02:05 PM) can also lose muscle too? I must start to change my diet now.. hey Jamis! you don't visit your baggy pant thread? I want one. Adui, i think i send u a pm... may be i forgot to press the send XD. Size 3 right? just found out i left one. Yes yes, bad diet can cause u to lose muscle (muscle break down) |
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QUOTE(jamis @ May 22 2012, 02:27 PM) Adui, i think i send u a pm... may be i forgot to press the send XD. Size 3 right? just found out i left one. yup.. I can only build up muscle at my hand and leg only.. but stomach and chest were failure..Yes yes, bad diet can cause u to lose muscle (muscle break down) |
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Have not been training for a month and I'm losing weight! Seems like I've gained more fats and losing lean mass. Oh no!!
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2012, 02:13 PM) It is a waste of you don't train your lower body. Testosterone, one of the main element in building your muscle will be generate more when you are doing exercises that engages lots of muscle @ compound exercise. And what is the best compound exercises? I would say the big 3 which is Squat, Deadlift and Bench. 2 of these exercises are lower body exercise and by not doing them, you just waste a great opportunity. Testosterone will effect sex desire right? What else it will affect? metabolism? |
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QUOTE(chastise @ May 22 2012, 02:32 PM) Have not been training for a month and I'm losing weight! Seems like I've gained more fats and losing lean mass. Oh no!! You consume your calorie surplus yet you don't consume enough protein thus your body start to breakdown your muscle to get protein.Added on May 22, 2012, 2:44 pm QUOTE(mhisyam6 @ May 22 2012, 02:37 PM) In men, testosterone plays a key role in the development of male reproductive tissues such as the testis and prostate as well as promoting secondary sexual characteristics such as increased muscle, bone mass, and the growth of body hair. In addition, testosterone is essential for health and well-being as well as the prevention of osteoporosis.~Taken from wikipedia~ This post has been edited by alien9: May 22 2012, 02:44 PM |
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May 22 2012, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2012, 02:40 PM) You consume your calorie surplus yet you don't consume enough protein thus your body start to breakdown your muscle to get protein. Yes, i know and actually, it's the body burning the muscle for energy because I don't have enough protein intake to fuel the muscle to be exact.Added on May 22, 2012, 2:44 pm In men, testosterone plays a key role in the development of male reproductive tissues such as the testis and prostate as well as promoting secondary sexual characteristics such as increased muscle, bone mass, and the growth of body hair. In addition, testosterone is essential for health and well-being as well as the prevention of osteoporosis. ~Taken from wikipedia~ This post has been edited by chastise: May 22 2012, 02:53 PM |
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May 22 2012, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ May 22 2012, 02:32 PM) Have not been training for a month and I'm losing weight! Seems like I've gained more fats and losing lean mass. Oh no!! dont think you'll see a significant muscle loss if u didnt train for a monthQUOTE(mhisyam6 @ May 22 2012, 02:37 PM) increase in test: increase in libido |
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May 22 2012, 02:55 PM
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May 22 2012, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ May 22 2012, 02:55 PM) Not that significant but not as pumped. Screw up my macros as well. Oh well, have to be determined to start up again I guess. lol i screw up my macros ALL the time. its fine. you'll get a jump start once you start training again.Added on May 22, 2012, 3:02 pm QUOTE(chastise @ May 22 2012, 02:51 PM) Yes, i know and actually, it's the body burning the muscle for energy because I don't have enough protein intake to fuel the muscle to be exact. kinda. it deteriorates not because the body is burning the muscles away, its because you're not using them, and also not enough protein to maintain them. in the end proteins are still cals. if your muscles dont need use up the protein its still gonna be converted to fat stores. This post has been edited by mikehuan: May 22 2012, 03:02 PM |
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May 22 2012, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 22 2012, 02:59 PM) lol i screw up my macros ALL the time. its fine. you'll get a jump start once you start training again. Just couldn't resist those rice with babi gulings and bebeks during my recent trip to bali. I have had my possibly usual whole month's carb intake in 5 days! lol...Added on May 22, 2012, 3:02 pm kinda. it deteriorates not because the body is burning the muscles away, its because you're not using them, and also not enough protein to maintain them. in the end proteins are still cals. if your muscles dont need use up the protein its still gonna be converted to fat stores. |
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May 22 2012, 03:50 PM
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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...on_of_an_expert
i find this article to be particularly useful. might be flame material, but whatever. i think it makes sense. |
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May 22 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 22 2012, 03:50 PM) http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...on_of_an_expert I really like the "Don't spend much time listening to someone talk about something they've never done." quote. Makes perfect sense when it comes to fitness.i find this article to be particularly useful. might be flame material, but whatever. i think it makes sense. |
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May 22 2012, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ May 22 2012, 04:16 PM) I really like the "Don't spend much time listening to someone talk about something they've never done." quote. Makes perfect sense when it comes to fitness. Totally agreed with you man. How can they know about something if they just know theoretically, but never put their knowledge practically. Another thing that I hate is trainer who doesn't in fit condition yet teaching others to be fit, and fat people to lose fat. |
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May 22 2012, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 22 2012, 03:50 PM) http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...on_of_an_expert i like this i find this article to be particularly useful. might be flame material, but whatever. i think it makes sense. |
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May 22 2012, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2012, 02:06 PM) That is why I don't like to eat outside, since I don't know how much oil, salt, fat etc2 in a meal. Right now, I always cook at home. Just ate my lunch and this is my macro nutrition for the meal. i dont know why, but i somewhat hates peanut butter, or maybe just the brand i eat, im using steffi peanut butter, i find them quite fillings, meaning i eat 3 bread with peanut butter, i felt so full already, and there isnt really much calories 25 gram of CED Peanut Butter (2 tablespoons) = p 7.3g, c 2.2g, f 12.7g 3 First Choice Egg = p 25.5g, c 0g, f 22.0g 1 can of BlueBay Shredded Tuna = p 45.9, c 0g, f 0.4g 30 gram of Planta (3 tablespoons) = p 0g, c 0g, f 24.6 g Total: 859 kcal, p 78g, 2g, f 59 g Simple right? |
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May 22 2012, 06:40 PM
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Hi, I'm beginner on body building, Can anyone provide me some routine on body building?
172CM and weight is 75kg which over fat i think >.< |
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May 22 2012, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Ash1988 @ May 22 2012, 06:40 PM) Hi, I'm beginner on body building, Can anyone provide me some routine on body building? Beginner? The best routine for beginner would be the routine than have a lot of compound exercises. Why? Google that. You can also google about Starting Strength by Rippetoe, Stronglifts 5x5 by Mehdi, 5/3/1 by Weider, Big but Boring.172CM and weight is 75kg which over fat i think >.< |
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May 22 2012, 11:01 PM
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Hi all,
I want to ask about something. Last week (last Friday), i increase weight in my Squat and DL. But untill now, there is pain in my lowerback and glutes area. Only feel this pain when i sit. Not sharp but a tender pain. Before this, i felt sore for a day only. Is this normal when we increased the weight? Should i skip squat and DL? I am doing 5x5 SL. Thanks for reply. |
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May 22 2012, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(kicksense @ May 22 2012, 11:01 PM) Hi all, If you are doing Stronglifts, it mean that you only add 5lbs weight right? If your usual soreness only happened one day (for every workout) and this time you feel the pain differently, maybe you should take a little break. Muscle soreness is good but something else is bad. Maybe you had a bad form on your squat?I want to ask about something. Last week (last Friday), i increase weight in my Squat and DL. But untill now, there is pain in my lowerback and glutes area. Only feel this pain when i sit. Not sharp but a tender pain. Before this, i felt sore for a day only. Is this normal when we increased the weight? Should i skip squat and DL? I am doing 5x5 SL. Thanks for reply. |
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May 22 2012, 11:56 PM
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May 23 2012, 12:02 AM
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@alien9 : Yes. yup I was thinking the same too. Maybe I should take a little break. Did you guys do any stretching after squat and DL?
@razorboy : My office can't view any videos. I'll view it at home. thanx guys! |
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May 23 2012, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(kicksense @ May 23 2012, 12:02 AM) @alien9 : Yes. yup I was thinking the same too. Maybe I should take a little break. Did you guys do any stretching after squat and DL? or maybe you can do squat. do you do dynamic warm up on your exercise? if you feel that you have little discomfort while warming up, then you should stop. If you didn't feel anything, then go for it@razorboy : My office can't view any videos. I'll view it at home. thanx guys! |
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May 23 2012, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2012, 02:13 PM) It is a waste of you don't train your lower body. Testosterone, one of the main element in building your muscle will be generate more when you are doing exercises that engages lots of muscle @ compound exercise. And what is the best compound exercises? I would say the big 3 which is Squat, Deadlift and Bench. 2 of these exercises are lower body exercise and by not doing them, you just waste a great opportunity. uhmnot to say compound are sucks,they're good for newbies just to share http://irondungeon.org/forum/index.php?topic=4767.0 (written by IFBB pro bob cicherillo,i always like his way when comes to bodybuilding) btw,i dont do back squat and deadlift my glutes develop faster than any part of my body by doing them LOL This post has been edited by theCrab: May 23 2012, 12:09 AM |
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May 23 2012, 12:18 AM
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@theCrab : my squat really help me develop my leg. But DL, still dont see any significant muscle improvement after 5months training. But i noticed that my strength increased abit. Still got long way to go to be like other big bro here.
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May 23 2012, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ May 23 2012, 12:08 AM) uhm I would say that it is the matter of preferences. I do respect his opinion but most of it comes from his 25 years of experience. Who am I to argue with him when my experience is just shy of 1 year. Hahaha. But then, from my experience, you need to develop the overall strength for your body before you start doing ISOs.not to say compound are sucks,they're good for newbies just to share http://irondungeon.org/forum/index.php?topic=4767.0 (written by IFBB pro bob cicherillo,i always like his way when comes to bodybuilding) btw,i dont do back squat and deadlift my glutes develop faster than any part of my body by doing them LOL |
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May 23 2012, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 23 2012, 12:26 AM) I would say that it is the matter of preferences. I do respect his opinion but most of it comes from his 25 years of experience. Who am I to argue with him when my experience is just shy of 1 year. Hahaha. But then, from my experience, you need to develop the overall strength for your body before you start doing ISOs. no lajust sharing bro,dont get me wrong i still suggest newbie do compound movement such as squat and deadlift me myself still doing barbell row just i agree with his preference to squat,before that i was keep squatting for a year half and i got a f***ing big glutes until i switch to hack squat and front squat.and some of his words make sense This post has been edited by theCrab: May 23 2012, 12:32 AM |
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May 23 2012, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 23 2012, 12:26 AM) I would say that it is the matter of preferences. I do respect his opinion but most of it comes from his 25 years of experience. Who am I to argue with him when my experience is just shy of 1 year. Hahaha. But then, from my experience, you need to develop the overall strength for your body before you start doing ISOs. He wasn't talking about 'compounds vs isolation' exercises per se. It was more of a 'compounds vs other variations of said compound' article. And it was from a solely bodybuilding POV as well. So yeah, it does still come down to what a person's goals are.Added on May 23, 2012, 12:34 am QUOTE(theCrab @ May 23 2012, 12:32 AM) no la This should be a good thing. Chicks dig firm rear ends. just sharing bro,dont get me wrong i still suggest newbie do compound movement such as squat and deadlift me myself still doing barbell row just i agree with his preference to squat,before that i was keep squatting for a year half and i got a f***ing big glutes until i switch to hack squat and front squat.and some of his words make sense This post has been edited by -Dan: May 23 2012, 12:34 AM |
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QUOTE(-Dan @ May 23 2012, 12:33 AM) He wasn't talking about 'compounds vs isolation' exercises per se. It was more of a 'compounds vs other variations of said compound' article. And it was from a solely bodybuilding POV as well. So yeah, it does still come down to what a person's goals are. ah yea...i am more to bodybuilding ...i dont actually care how much i am rowing as long i get pump thats good Added on May 23, 2012, 12:34 am This should be a good thing. Chicks dig firm rear ends. strength is bonus for me |
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fabodylous is really big n ripped....
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May 23 2012, 10:33 AM
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I am now learning how to use the assisted dip chin machine. i noticed that there are many "handles" at the top part. which is for which muscle groups?
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May 23 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ May 23 2012, 12:35 AM) ah yea...i am more to bodybuilding ...i dont actually care how much i am rowing as long i get pump thats good I started with the powerlifter type hence the wide stance squat but I still want to see the 'big muscles' on my body and thanks to -Dan cause telling me about PHAT. A very good combination of powerlifter and bodybuilding.strength is bonus for me And I've re read the article and yeah, the author didn't entirely bash compound but more to say that compound isn't the best exercises that every bodybuilder must do. |
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starting to squat back after long rest due to second knee pop. feel's good but still light weight. doing 5 x 5 for until Ramadhan perhaps.
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ May 23 2012, 10:33 AM) I am now learning how to use the assisted dip chin machine. i noticed that there are many "handles" at the top part. which is for which muscle groups? chin machine? I think usually there would be two handle right? The long vertical one and the 'middle' one. Both handles target the back but the easiest one is the middle handle. The hardest one is the vertical, if you put your arms at the end of it. You can only do that if you already have a big developed strong lats |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 23 2012, 10:52 AM) chin machine? I think usually there would be two handle right? The long vertical one and the 'middle' one. Both handles target the back but the easiest one is the middle handle. The hardest one is the vertical, if you put your arms at the end of it. You can only do that if you already have a big developed strong lats the one i saw at the gym is something like this. How do we use the attached weight? the lighter the easier?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by andyfriends: May 23 2012, 10:57 AM |
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May 23 2012, 11:00 AM
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set the weight, the heavier is easier. The weight will reduce the weight that you need to pull. Lets say I am 200 lbs and I use a 50 lbs weight, so I just pulling 150lbs, that is assisted. If you use no weight, that would be unassisted/bodyweight. If you add weight (dumbbell/plates to your body), that would be weighted.
How to use this machine assisted? Choose appropriate weight and step on the red step. by the look of it, maybe you kneel on it. |
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May 23 2012, 11:01 AM
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Right bicep lifts 10kgs, 10 reps. left bicep lifts 10kgs, 6rep
Left chest is bigger than right chest My left shoulder is higher than my right shoulder hence, making my right hand longer my 1cm this sucks ~_~ |
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May 23 2012, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 23 2012, 11:00 AM) set the weight, the heavier is easier. The weight will reduce the weight that you need to pull. Lets say I am 200 lbs and I use a 50 lbs weight, so I just pulling 150lbs, that is assisted. If you use no weight, that would be unassisted/bodyweight. If you add weight (dumbbell/plates to your body), that would be weighted. Oh, I was right. For weight, it has to be the opposite compared to the other machine. the heavier the easier.How to use this machine assisted? Choose appropriate weight and step on the red step. by the look of it, maybe you kneel on it. What about the hand grip given that there are 3 different positions at the top. which is for which? |
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