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TSantonio
post Aug 2 2005, 04:52 PM, updated 20y ago

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INTEL Pentiums, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium D, Pentium M / Celeron, Celeron D users.

Since its been too long that no Intels owners have the chance to talk about overclocking results, tips and tricks, might as well i start one. If the both Mod see that this is an irrelevant thread and should be demolished, no hard feelings for me though.

All Intels fella unite here to let the whole LYP that Pentiums still rocks. I've left the AMD world and it seems that sooner or later i'll be back to play Intel.

All your problems, achievements in overclocking can be posted here adn make sure the template are as below:

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Specs And Technical Data. (All Must Be Filled)

-Original CPU/Socket :
-Stepping :
-Date :
-FSB :
-Clock Speed :
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) :
-Chipset :
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings :
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB :
-Highest RAM :
-Highest Clock Speed :
-Highest Vcore :
-Highest VDIMM :
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Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)
-CPU-Z Validation :

-Prime95 / PrimeTest :
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD :
-Memtest :
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth :
-3DMarks 2005 :
-3DMarks 2003 :
-3DMarks 2001 :


Lets rock the Pentium world and lets show them AMD boyz what can the new 830 and 620 do...Hahahaha...Lets overclock..

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post Aug 2 2005, 09:42 PM

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Original CPU/Socket: Celeron 500 S370 PPGA
FSB: 70
Clock Speed: 70*7.5=525
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): 2V 3.3V i815
Chipset: i815
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: SDRAM/PC133/3-2-2-5

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post Aug 2 2005, 10:10 PM

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Original CPU/Socket: P4 Northwood mPGA-478
FSB: 216mhz
Clock Speed: 2.8 @ 3.02
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): cpu:1.5v
Chipset: i865
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: Corsair VS (2x256) @ 2.5-3-3-6


hihi..i know its not much but its my msi board..cant do much with it.. sad.gif
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post Aug 2 2005, 10:23 PM

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haha...good topic here...
i am the one use from amd barton move to intel 64bit n move back to amd laugh.gif
here is my intel 64bit oc result biggrin.gif

all in stock
Original CPU/Socket: LGA775
FSB:220*15
Clock Speed:3300
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP):all stock
Chipset:915
Ram Type/Speed/Timings:stock

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post Aug 2 2005, 10:51 PM

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Stable Setup =

Original CPU/Socket: P4 Presscot mPGA-478
FSB: 225
Clock Speed: 2.4 @ 4.1GHz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): cpu:1.52v | ram:2.8v | agp:1.5v
Chipset: i865PE
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: KHX3200AK2 (2x256) @ 2-2-2-5

Screenies :: Press Here ::

Not Stable Setup =

Original CPU/Socket: P4 Presscot mPGA-478
FSB: 239
Clock Speed: 2.4 @ 4.3GHz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): cpu:1.52v | ram:3.0v | agp:1.5v
Chipset: i865PE
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: KHX3200AK2 (2x256) @ 2-3-3-8

Screenies :: Press Here ::

The 4.3GHz manage 2 stay for 10 minutes then restart sweat.gif !!~

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post Aug 3 2005, 05:36 PM

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FSB: 145mhz
Clock Speed: 2.0 Celeron @ 2900
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): cpu:1.584v
Chipset: i845GV (ASROCK P4i45GV, very less OC option )
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: Spectek 256mb 333


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post Aug 3 2005, 06:37 PM

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Original CPU/Socket: 3.0E / Skt 478
FSB: 240.1
Clock Speed: 3.6
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): 1.525/2.7/Geil(blue)+Corsair /1.5v
Chipset:i865PE
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: DDR / DDR400 / 2.5-3-3-7

the speed

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post Aug 4 2005, 10:05 AM

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-Original CPU/Socket : Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.60GHz L1 : 12/8 KB - L2 : 512 KB
-Stepping/ Core: Northwood
-Date : -
-FSB : 200
-Clock Speed : 2600Mhz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : 1.5v
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : KVR Hynix D43 512x2 = 3-4-4-8 2.8v
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Motherboard
- Brand : MICRO-STAR INC.
- Model : MS-6728
- Chipset : 865PE
- AGP/PCIE : AGP
- Bios Version : -
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 250.58 * 13
-Highest RAM : (250.58) 1:1
-Highest Clock Speed : 3257.59 MHz
-Highest Vcore : 1.5v
-Highest VDIMM : 2.9v
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Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)

-CPU-Z Validation : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=28960
-Prime95 / PrimeTest : -
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD : -
-Memtest : -
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth : -
-3DMarks 2005 : -
-3DMarks 2003 : -
-3DMarks 2001 : -

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My Office PC

-Original CPU/Socket : Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.60GHz L1 : 12/8 KB - L2 : 512 KB
-Stepping/ Core: Northwood
-Date : -
-FSB : 200
-Clock Speed : 2600Mhz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : 1.5v
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : KVR Hynix D43 512x2 = 3-4-4-8 2.8v
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Motherboard
- Brand : MICRO-STAR INC.
- Model : MS-6728
- Chipset : 865PE
- AGP/PCIE : AGP
- Bios Version : -
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 277* 13
-Highest RAM : (277) 1:1
-Highest Clock Speed : 3257.59 MHz
-Highest Vcore : 1.6v
-Highest VDIMM : 2.9v
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Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)

-CPU-Z Validation : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29244
-Prime95 / PrimeTest : -
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD : -
-Memtest : -
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth : -
-3DMarks 2005 : -
-3DMarks 2003 : -
-3DMarks 2001 : -


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-Original CPU/Socket : Celeron D 2.4GHz
-Stepping : 4
-Date: N/A
-FSB : 211
-Clock Speed : 3.8GHz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : VCore: 1.41 VDimm: 1.65
-Chipset : Mobo: Intel 848 RAM:KVR BT-D43
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : Stock

-Highest FSB : 211
-Highest RAM : 211
-Highest Clock Speed : 3.8GHz
-Highest Vcore : 1.425V
-Highest VDIMM : 2.7V

CPU-Z Validation : HERE
-Prime95 / PrimeTest :
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD :
-Memtest :
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth :
-3DMarks 2005 :
-3DMarks 2003 :
-3DMarks 2001 : 8659(ATI Radeon 9550: STOCK)

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post Aug 4 2005, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Hungry_Wolf @ Aug 4 2005, 02:44 PM)
-Original CPU/Socket : Celeron D 2.4GHz
-Stepping : 4
-FSB : 200
-Clock Speed : 3.6GHz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : Stock
-Chipset : KVR BT-D43
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : Stock

-Highest FSB : 211
-Highest RAM : 211
-Highest Clock Speed : 3.8GHz
-Highest Vcore : 1.41V
-Highest VDIMM : Stock
(NOT STABLE, still in testing)
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according to you in another thread, u've mentioned a problem of making ur system stabilized at high O/C...

to answer ur question about what timings and voltage i can only advice to up ur vdimm to 2.9v and timings let it loose first...then test to see how far it can go and watch out for 'THE WALL'

as far as hynix users go 2.5 3-3-7 is the tightest in terms of stability at high FSB...and above 2.9 is only heat production....


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eh...any body have guide on how to oc dual xeon processor on DELL Powerdge server? notworthy.gif from Bios dun have setting lah if can oc might b damm interesting rite? drool.gif

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QUOTE(hiroko @ Aug 5 2005, 06:07 PM)
eh...any body have guide on how to oc dual xeon processor on DELL Powerdge server? notworthy.gif  from Bios dun have setting lah if can oc might b damm interesting rite?  drool.gif
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yeah they usually lock the bios to avoid overclocking so that it doesnt void the warranty
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Still Testing:
Original CPU/Socket: P4 531 3Ghz EM64T. (Stepping EO)LGA775.
FSB: 267MHZ
Clock Speed: 3Ghz @4007 mhz/15x267mhz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP):1.51v/ 3.6volts/1.65v
Chipset/MOBO:Abit AS8-V (Vdroop,Vdimm Mod) I865PE
Ram Type/Speed/Timings:HyperX DDR400 256mbx2, 2-2-2-5,5:4 divider.



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QUOTE(hiroko @ Aug 5 2005, 06:07 PM)
eh...any body have guide on how to oc dual xeon processor on DELL Powerdge server? notworthy.gif  from Bios dun have setting lah if can oc might b damm interesting rite?  drool.gif
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OEM motherboards usually doesnt have overclocking options....this is bcoz there is no PC manufacturer which sells bundled PC wif overclocking functions..xcept alienware which i think is not so overclockable....the problem with server based mobo there are not many manufacturer that build a mobo for the sake of overclocking which their target i assume is 90% right and 10% wrong...

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 6 2005, 10:28 AM)
OEM motherboards usually doesnt have overclocking options....this is bcoz there is no PC manufacturer which sells bundled PC wif overclocking functions..xcept alienware which i think is not so overclockable....the problem with server based mobo there are not many manufacturer that build a mobo for the sake of overclocking which their target i assume is 90% right and 10% wrong...
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Ya its true. Tat y hand so itchy drool.gif want to test out the oc-ability of Xeon.So sad test all the ClockGen not found a suitable lah. Any other way of soft clock?

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QUOTE(hiroko @ Aug 7 2005, 12:27 AM)
Ya its true. Tat y hand so itchy  drool.gif  want to test out the oc-ability of Xeon.So sad test all the ClockGen not found a suitable lah. Any other way of soft clock?
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not off i ever heard of it b4..... shakehead.gif

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Just want to in OC,so i want to buy proc 2.66 or above+mobo+ 512mb ram.
I preffer P4 than amd,can i get this 3 items for RM1k 2nd hand oso ok blush.gif ??
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Hi guyz,im a noob in this section.Can my processor:Pentium 4 LGA 775 HT 2.8Ghz/800 mhz fsb/1MB L2 Cache and my motherboard:Gigabyte GA-8I915G Duo good for overclocking.Help me out here unsure.gif

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QUOTE(simpleguy @ Aug 14 2005, 06:18 PM)
Hi guyz,im a noob in this section.Can my processor:Pentium 4 LGA 775 HT 2.8Ghz/800 mhz fsb/1MB L2 Cache and my motherboard:Gigabyte GA-8I915G Duo good for overclocking.Help me out here unsure.gif
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yep u can easily clock it at 3.5G at 250fsb.
vcore around 1.5v
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-Original CPU/Socket :2.4A/S478
-Stepping :
-Date : May 05
-FSB :133
-Clock Speed : 2.4GHz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) :1.4/2.5/NA/1.5
-Chipset :865PE
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings :DDR/333/2.5-8-4-4
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 211
-Highest RAM : 211
-Highest Clock Speed : 3797
-Highest Vcore : 1.425
-Highest VDIMM : 2.85
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Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)
-CPU-Z Validation :

-Prime95 / PrimeTest :
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD :
-Memtest :
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth :
-3DMarks 2005 :
-3DMarks 2003 :
-3DMarks 2001 :

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post Aug 15 2005, 11:58 PM

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my intel proc kena locked by Dell...=(....3.2 640 jz like that...no where else to go
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Change motherboard and you can overclock wink.gif

Currently mine I OCed from 2.4Ghz to 3.21Ghz 178Mhz FSB 1:1 stable with stock voltage between 1.49V-1.52V

Mine is the old school 2.4B processor C1 stepping
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change mobo?..exp ler..currently wanna spend on GC only.if wanna OC intel must need extreme cooling lor..saving money for water cooling also.
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which mobo is cheap n good for overclocking if i buy 3.0ghz E..?Intel?Asus?
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intel boards cannot oc

asus and DFI are good bets
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-Original CPU/Socket : P4 2.4c Northwood
-Stepping : 9, Revision : D1
-Date :
-FSB : 255
-Clock Speed : 3064mhz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : default/2.9/default/default
-Chipset : i865pe
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : BT-D43/DDR510/8-4-4-3
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 255fsb
-Highest RAM : DDR510/8-4-4-3
-Highest Clock Speed : 3064mhz
-Highest Vcore : default
-Highest VDIMM : 2.9v

2.4c + AI7

About the benchmark......very lazy to do it.
May update my stat when I oc more.

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hi all, this one not world record rite?
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omg !!! 7ghz?!! wow wow !! here's mine

-Original CPU/Socket : P4 2.4c Northwood
-Stepping : 7
-Date :
-FSB : 150
-Clock Speed : 2700mhz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/AGP) : 1.525/2.6/1.55
-Chipset : i865pe
-Speed/Timings : DDR375/2.5-4-4-8
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 160fsb
-Highest RAM : DDR380/2-4-4-8
-Highest Clock Speed : 2900mhz
-Highest Vcore : default
-Highest VDIMM :

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3dmark01se : 11182
3dmark03 : 3533

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hi, also a newbie on overclocking. planned to overclock my P4 2.4C to run at 3GHz. questions are:
1) using only stock HSF and Icute PSU(450W i think), can go how high? any risk of overheating or under power?
2) using the Abit Is-7e mobo. tried to overclock it with 250Mhz FSB but it cannot boot and giving me the beep sound. FYI, i think i did lock the bus speed for AGP and PCI.

sorry, i know i should have search around first but i think most of the articles i see is using 3rd party HSF and some good PSU. planning to stick with my current HSF and PSU.

Thanks.
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davidjun, for ur case. Heat will be a big issue.

I'm using xp90 + delta focusflow and I get 47c temp.
With stock hsf.......around 60c? tongue.gif


and then what ram u using?
if u using a ram that cannot stand high fsb, use the divider.

But then if u want to overclock ur 2.4c, change the PSU and the hsf.

and pengster, 2.4c should run at 200fsb in default.
u sure u using a 2.4c?

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QUOTE(blackangel @ Aug 16 2005, 12:35 PM)
change mobo?..exp ler..currently wanna spend on GC only.if wanna OC intel must need extreme cooling lor..saving money for water cooling also.
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I would say sell it off and get AMD64/sempron-x64.

Watercooling not necessary anymore unless for freaking high OC.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 23 2005, 06:28 PM)
I would say sell it off and get AMD64/sempron-x64.

Watercooling not necessary anymore unless for freaking high OC.
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Well watercooling is necessary if you have a presscott and want to get a high stable overclock.
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yo, want to ask all sifus here
overclocking intel just imcrease the FSB only, rite ??
i am a lil bit confused with intel....coz...although some say support DDR400, but the ram only running at 266 or 333 MHz only ??
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 23 2005, 11:02 PM)
yo, want to ask all sifus here
overclocking intel just imcrease the FSB only, rite ??
i am a lil bit confused with intel....coz...although some say support DDR400, but the ram only running at 266 or 333 MHz only ??
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it mean that the computer can boot and run using ddr400 but the speed of the ram is just running at ddr266 or ddr333. depend on the processor fsb. so if u want to fully utilize ddr400 ram, at least 200fsb is needed. correct me if i'm wrong.
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wat model of intel proc that run at DDR400 at stock ?
then if the ram speed is less than a DDR400, then y use DDR400 ?
just for bandwidth purpose ?
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 24 2005, 12:17 AM)
wat model of intel proc that run at DDR400 at stock ?
then if the ram speed is less than a DDR400, then y use DDR400 ?
just for bandwidth purpose ?
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any proc that with 800mhz of fsb. using ddr 400 cos if u oc to 200 fsb, u still run at stock timing. if u oc ddr 266 or ddr 333 to ddr 400, u need to find a new timing.correct me if, i'm wrong....

btw, ddr 400 is cheaper.
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QUOTE(F33L3Lik3Hom3 @ Aug 23 2005, 10:32 PM)
Well watercooling is necessary if you have a presscott and want to get a high stable overclock.
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I'm talking about AMD64/sempron-x64....

not the super hot baby presscott.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 23 2005, 06:28 PM)
I would say sell it off and get AMD64/sempron-x64.

Watercooling not necessary anymore unless for freaking high OC.
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Why you say that? sweat.gif AMD 64 better?
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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Aug 24 2005, 12:49 PM)
Why you say that? sweat.gif  AMD 64 better?
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First their power consumption is lower and then their memory bandwidth is better and you have a SLI platform.


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QUOTE(F33L3Lik3Hom3 @ Aug 24 2005, 01:20 PM)
First their power consumption is lower and then their memory bandwidth is better and you have a SLI platform.
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So if i want to get a new system better go fo AMD 64? sweat.gif
Ur sig show 2.4c@3.9,but i saw AMD 64 only can go 2Ghz++ oni sweat.gif

p/s:Im new in overclocking,hope you guys can answer me well. smile.gif

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well, clock speed isn't everything
the architexture of AMD and P4 are diffrent
AMD can perform as well as intel but just at lower clock, not to mention multitasking for single core AMD.....
But if take AMD X2 to compare multitasking with intel......hehe......
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 25 2005, 04:19 AM)
well, clock speed isn't everything
the architexture of AMD and P4 are diffrent
AMD can perform as well as intel but just at lower clock, not to mention multitasking for single core AMD.....
But if take AMD X2 to compare multitasking with intel......hehe......
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totally depends on you
if u are into gaming, AMD recommended
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 25 2005, 05:56 PM)
totally depends on you
if u are into gaming, AMD recommended
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Now i want to get a system for overclocking so,which 1 to choose?I preffer P4 but....64 bit..hum blush.gif
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Overcloking a P4 is a lot easier then overcloking A64
There are a lot of factors that you must concern when overclocking A64
ram timings, memory divider, ram speed, LDT multiplier, volts(sure), something like this
while overcloking p4 just raise the FSB and the volts
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I'm not sure if this is the right section or not.But I just to ask if a Pentium 4 2GHz cooling fan can be use with a Pentium 4 3GHz HT?

The original P4 3GHz cooling fan is too noisy and I want to change it to my old P4 2GHz cooling fan which is virtually silence.
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QUOTE(matkoi @ Aug 26 2005, 10:01 AM)
I'm not sure if this is the right section or not.But I just to ask if a Pentium 4 2GHz cooling fan can be use with a Pentium 4 3GHz HT?

The original P4 3GHz cooling fan is too noisy and I want to change it to my old P4 2GHz cooling fan which is virtually silence.
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if the fan's output is the same with the 3Ghz why not?...the only this is ur 2.0 fan issit still working optimally?? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 26 2005, 11:30 AM)
if the fan's output is the same with the 3Ghz why not?...the only this is ur 2.0 fan issit still working optimally?? whistling.gif
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how to know if the output of the fan?and what do you mean by working optimally?
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output = CFM = the amount or air in manages to scoop in....

optimally = working in good condition.

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 26 2005, 11:46 AM)
output = CFM = the amount or air in manages to scoop in....

optimally = working in good condition.

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hmm it doesn't show any CFM indicator on it.The only difference that I know between the two fans is that one has a .016A current and another another one has a 0.44A current. The 0.16A has a relatively small fan and heatsink.But i do need to know if this fan can support P4 3GHz.
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does it both has the same size...???
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 26 2005, 12:03 PM)
does it both has the same size...???
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The P4 2GHz is a bit smaller in size compare to the P4 3GHz.
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though it can fit but it's recommended to use the 3.0 hsf, cos intel won't be simply increasing the dimension and the fan power just for nothing.
btw, ur 3.0 is prescott? or northwood?
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 23 2005, 06:15 PM)
davidjun, for ur case. Heat will be a big issue.

I'm using xp90 + delta focusflow and I get 47c temp.
With stock hsf.......around 60c? tongue.gif
and then what ram u using?
if u using a ram that cannot stand high fsb, use the divider.

But then if u want to overclock ur 2.4c, change the PSU and the hsf.

and pengster, 2.4c should run at 200fsb in default.
u sure u using a 2.4c?
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yeah im using 2.4....but i dun tink its 2.4c,i tink its 2.4a..my default is 133x18 n i cant change da multiplier..its locked...o yeah wat do u mean by use da divider?wat does dat mean?how 2 use?lol sorry noob in oc here sweat.gif

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Abit AW8-MAX (i955X) - Intel P4 520 (2.8 GHz) - Corsair XMS2 Corsair 5400UL 2x512MB - ATI Radeon X800XL 512MB - Maxtor 80GB PATA - Antec NeoPower480 - SilverStone TJ05

-Original CPU/Socket : Intel® Pentium® 4 520 2.8GHz L1 : 16/12 KB - L2 : 1MB
-Stepping/ Core: Prescott
-Date : -
-FSB : 200
-Clock Speed : 2880Mhz
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-Highest FSB : 280 * 14
-Highest RAM : (465.5) 3:5
-Highest Clock Speed : 3910 MHz
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QUOTE(matkoi @ Aug 26 2005, 10:01 AM)
I'm not sure if this is the right section or not.But I just to ask if a Pentium 4 2GHz cooling fan can be use with a Pentium 4 3GHz HT?

The original P4 3GHz cooling fan is too noisy and I want to change it to my old P4 2GHz cooling fan which is virtually silence.
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I would say throw in some money for a better heatsink.

Like thermalright, hyper6+, etc.


pengster, try check ur bios.

There will be divider like 1:1, 6:5, 5:4....

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QUOTE(F33L3Lik3Hom3 @ Aug 24 2005, 01:20 PM)
First their power consumption is lower and then their memory bandwidth is better and you have a SLI platform.
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i heard intel got SLI too... whistling.gif on new chipset..

QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 25 2005, 04:19 AM)
well, clock speed isn't everything
the architexture of AMD and P4 are diffrent
AMD can perform as well as intel but just at lower clock, not to mention multitasking for single core AMD.....
But if take AMD X2 to compare multitasking with intel......hehe......
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AMD only wins if prescott disable the HT....AMD X2 should compare with Pentium D dual core too tongue.gif btw im intel user here..

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lol...AMD XP can't compare with dual core lol
AMD 64 or some stock FX will win prescott is HT disable
but with AMD X2, it pwn Intel on multitaking also, but just, the price sweat.gif
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i a newbie biggrin.gif after reading this thread, i tried to overclock my computer...but the multiplier is locked? what can i do to unlock it?
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Intel not like AMD unless u with Engineering sample.
I believe u really a newbie, Intel multiplier always locked.

u can only raise the fsb if u want to OC.
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 27 2005, 03:30 AM)
lol...AMD XP can't compare with dual core lol
AMD 64 or some stock FX will win prescott is HT disable
but with AMD X2, it pwn Intel on multitaking also, but just, the price sweat.gif
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erm...plan to get intel 630 rolleyes.gif anyone ovrclock it?
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i would to ask.. is there any1 out there try b4 OCing P4 willamette (1st ed P4). hows d result? huh.gif
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Aug 28 2005, 12:25 AM)
i would to ask.. is there any1 out there try b4 OCing P4 willamette (1st ed P4). hows d result?  huh.gif
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i did...lol ..pain in the rear back then , the board had no pci/agp lock doh.gif
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QUOTE(bctv @ Aug 27 2005, 10:15 AM)
i a newbie biggrin.gif  after reading this thread, i tried to overclock my computer...but the multiplier is locked? what can i do to unlock it?
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increase the fsb
the multiplier is locked
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i did...lol ..pain in the rear back then , the board had no pci/agp lock doh.gif
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ok la that result... blush.gif thats wat a willamette can will giv u..its hard to oc...after all d multiplier is lock. but i`ve seen that a willamitte P4 1.6 can OC to 2.9Ghz drool.gif u can check it out at www.cpudatabase.com/index.cfm?Action=search

other guys can also check it out as reference
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Aug 28 2005, 09:36 PM)
ok la that result... blush.gif  thats wat a willamette can will giv u..its hard to oc...after all d multiplier is lock. but i`ve seen that a willamitte P4 1.6 can OC to 2.9Ghz  drool.gif  u can check it out at  www.cpudatabase.com/index.cfm?Action=search 

other guys can also check it out as reference
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QUOTE(NeophyteHeaven @ Aug 27 2005, 11:31 AM)
ah sorry2 ...typo error...should be AMD X2  doh.gif
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how about the cpu voltage or timing?

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hi..juz wanna ask and clarify sumthin here..im using 2.8c and manage to OC to 3.5ghz with 5:4 divider (250fsb)..manage to get 3.7+ before but not stable..btw im using 2x512 apacer ddr400 cl3 ram..

my questions:

1. I wanted to use 1:1 divider but i know it is impossible to do so wif my lousy apacer..izit possible for me to increase the vdimm and get higher fsb wif that 5:4 divider?

2. Wut is the highest vdimm that the apacer can stand? hehe so worried if i misraised the vdimm n burn my rams..

thanks to all sifu..


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My system can oc?

Intel LGA775 Prescott 3.0ghz 531+
512mbram SD DDRAM PC3200
ASROCK 775i65GV
Seada 400 watt
Intel Stock Cooler
(idle temparature is 38-41 celcius:sometimes 44 but will drop later)
WesternDigital 80GB
1 casing fan(blow hot air out) + open casing (use table fan to blow the system)
...............

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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Sep 1 2005, 02:45 PM)
hi..juz wanna ask and clarify sumthin here..im using 2.8c and manage to OC to 3.5ghz with 5:4 divider (250fsb)..manage to get 3.7+ before but not stable..btw im using 2x512 apacer ddr400 cl3 ram..

my questions:

1. I wanted to use 1:1 divider but i know it is impossible to do so wif my lousy apacer..izit possible for me to increase the vdimm and get higher fsb wif that 5:4 divider?

2. Wut is the highest vdimm that the apacer can stand? hehe so worried if i misraised the vdimm n burn my rams..

thanks to all sifu..
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reez you can up Vdimm up to 2.9 V at least to be on the safe side.
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QUOTE(aad_lfcfn @ Sep 1 2005, 02:58 PM)
My system can oc?

Intel LGA775 Prescott 3.0ghz 531+
512mbram SD DDRAM PC3200
ASROCK 775i65GV
Seada 400 watt
Intel Stock Cooler
(idle temparature is 38-41 celcius:sometimes 44 but will drop later)
WesternDigital 80GB
1 casing fan(blow hot air out) + open casing (use table fan to blow the system)
...............

  rolleyes.gif
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dun overclock unless u want to cook your mobo
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QUOTE(F33L3Lik3Hom3 @ Sep 1 2005, 03:15 PM)
reez you can up Vdimm up to 2.9 V at least to be on the safe side.
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hmmm..u mean 2.9v is a safe limit for any type of memory?
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Sep 1 2005, 10:26 PM)
hmmm..u mean 2.9v is a safe limit for any type of memory?
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QUOTE(F33L3Lik3Hom3 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:53 PM)
sort off. But bro no gurantees
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even wif 5:4 divider still cant go pass 260fsb even increased the vdimm..seems like my apacer is the bottleneck..
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anyone on DDR2 here? can i use divider 1:1 so my proc FSB 266...till now i cant boot when i use divider 1:1
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what is the best oc mobo for LGA775??
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For OC, Abit/ASUS/DFI and etc

Oh yeah, does Abit boards still flunctuate during load on the LGA models??
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hmm... don't take asus p5p800 lga775 board...

i can't oc over 3.6ghz ... max is 3.6ghz.. can't go further no matter how i try...
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Sep 2 2005, 06:30 PM)
hmm... don't take asus p5p800 lga775 board...

i can't oc over 3.6ghz ...  max is 3.6ghz..  can't go further no matter how i try...
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if i get the best OC mobo..
then what cooling is the best for prescott..
not over than RM 190..
want idle temp at 30"c+

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get either thermalright xp90 or xp90c.
but if ur using prescott i doubt it can b around 30c after OC.
for that must go for watercooling oredi.
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QUOTE(aad_lfcfn @ Sep 3 2005, 10:46 AM)
if i get the best OC mobo..
then what cooling is the best for prescott..
not over than RM 190..
want idle temp at 30"c+
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idle temp should be around 40c++
with stock hsf, the idle temp for presscott is around 50c
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QUOTE(aad_lfcfn @ Sep 1 2005, 02:58 PM)
My system can oc?

Intel LGA775 Prescott 3.0ghz 531+
512mbram SD DDRAM PC3200
ASROCK 775i65GV
Seada 400 watt
Intel Stock Cooler
(idle temparature is 38-41 celcius:sometimes 44 but will drop later)
WesternDigital 80GB
1 casing fan(blow hot air out) + open casing (use table fan to blow the system)
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Sep 2 2005, 06:30 PM)
hmm... don't take asus p5p800 lga775 board...

i can't oc over 3.6ghz ...  max is 3.6ghz..  can't go further no matter how i try...
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P5P800 can overclock very well..u need Vcore Vdroop mod.. biggrin.gif
P5P800 vcore very unstable.

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walao...u guys pro man,im using a 531 idle at 55C darn hot man my CPU...what HSF did u use on ur 531,& u manage to OC it till 4Ghz?
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Izzit really Intel board cant OC cause im using an Intel board sweat.gif
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just noticed this thread...hmm...fuss fuss biggrin.gif

anyways intel mobo is a NO-NO for overclockers since..there is no way of modifying any 'MHz'.
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i think newer Intel's motherboard BIOS settings have a "Burn-In" feature which allow you to overclock 4-5% from the default speed.
but the vcore, vdimm locked

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Sep 5 2005, 12:21 AM)
walao...u guys pro man,im using a 531 idle at 55C darn hot man my CPU...what HSF did u use on ur 531,& u manage to OC it till 4Ghz?
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wah la..so hot huh urs..

here's screenie with dual prime95 for 1 hours plus.
Full load : 51'c only.

im using TT Silent tower with 2 fan.. biggrin.gif

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this is my friend rig. that day he ask me 2 install sth for him, than i tangan gatal, use his com n oc!

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Darn,if i found this thread earlier,i wont get a Intel mobo... vmad.gif my 531 are using stock HSF,duno why its so darn hot compare to other 531 user...

how can i get into the bios system on a intel mobo,once i on my pc it will show a Intel logo,then jump to XP loading...any short cut key to enter bios?
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press delete key.
environment temp also affects the proc temp.
make sure casing airlflow is good.
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im using prescott 2.4A 533 mhz and keen to know how far can i OC?

i read some website and it says that stepping of 2EL able to touch 4 gig

My stepping is the same

right now i able to OC till 3.24 gig without touching the Vcore...

anyone can provide any info?


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I got the P4 2.8E, prescott 1MB L2 cache. and idle temperature is 42c and when i use to play warcraft 3 3 hours the temperature around 52c, after i close the warcraft 3, the temperature will slower down from 52c to 44c with in 10 seconds. but when i oc to 3.0 the temperature will up to 60c not full load. i think if full load, then ................, so anybody suggest me a good CPU cooler heatsink, less than RM100,

Thermaltake or cooler master suggest me tongue.gif
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..dontt know wether my mobo detect correct temperature or not..
now,,using stock HSF,my P531+ temp just around (38-42) idle..
.your result?
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my P4 531 idle at 55c load at 65c getting hot in here sweat.gif
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Sep 7 2005, 11:35 PM)
my P4 531 idle at 55c load at 65c getting hot in here  sweat.gif
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It is normal for prescott to run that hot, but you have to be aware of thermal throttling as well. There will be no gain from overclocking provided the processor is throttling down due to excessive heat. Attached is a monitoring software commonly used to observe throttling activity.
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Anyone suggest a good cpu cooler for my P4 2.8E?

budget less than RM100 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Sep 8 2005, 12:58 AM)
It is normal for prescott to run that hot, but you have to be aware of thermal throttling as well. There will be no gain from overclocking provided the processor is throttling down due to excessive heat. Attached is a monitoring software commonly used to observe throttling activity.
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what do this throttle thing do?i havent heard of it b4,mind explain a little more detail
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Can i know wat software i nid to use for overclocking my processor?
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QUOTE(Hell Fire @ Sep 9 2005, 07:24 AM)
Can i know wat software i nid to use for overclocking my processor?
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here u go i feed u.
http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php
use it if ur mobo in the list.
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Omg, something happened, after i overclock my cpu, all my sounds gone....wat happen?
EDIT: Problem solved after restarting. wink.gif

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hello,

i am using P4 3.00 ghz , 2gb ram, d915gav intel

socket 775

any ideas of upgrading it? and what is the recommended speed that i should use? 3.1ghz ? i am using bundled intel fan.

thanks.
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nv OC b4 changing to a better thermal solution.
change ur intel fan to wit a better heatsink+fan.
wat rams r u using?
intel mobos usually got no options for OCing.
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QUOTE(yuckfou @ Sep 10 2005, 01:29 AM)
nv OC b4 changing to a better thermal solution.
change ur intel fan to wit a better heatsink+fan.
wat rams r u using?
intel mobos usually got no options for OCing.
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any recommended fan?

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suddenly i have an idea. i saw someone selling the mod kit modify the original stock hsf, to allow put on the 80mm fan above the heatsink., so if i add in the tornado fan, is it better than cooler master jet7..or other brand? Don't compare to the high range one lar, just compare to the mid range one. tongue.gif
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what do this throttle thing do?i havent heard of it b4,mind explain a little more detail
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it backs out..while lowering the voltage/speed of ur proc...making sure ur proc stays in good health... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sibuk @ Sep 10 2005, 11:30 AM)
suddenly i have an idea.  i  saw someone selling the mod kit modify the original stock hsf, to allow put on the 80mm fan above the heatsink., so if i add in the tornado fan, is it better than cooler master jet7..or other brand? Don't compare to the high range one lar, just compare to the mid range one. tongue.gif
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If u really put tornado fan maybe the performance will be better a bit.. but make sure u can stand the tornado fan noise...

Or buy a fan controller t control it... smile.gif
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i m not sure whether i shud ask this question here..anyway,here is the question sweat.gif

nw i wanna use a P4 2.4ghz on a mobo which oni support max 2.4ghz..so,can i OC more than 2.4ghz since my mobo cant support higher clock speed anymore?
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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Sep 10 2005, 02:08 PM)
i m not sure whether i shud ask this question here..anyway,here is the question sweat.gif

nw i wanna use a P4 2.4ghz on a mobo which oni support max 2.4ghz..so,can i OC more than 2.4ghz since my mobo cant support higher clock speed anymore?
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its hard to say. depend on the model u having.

let say, those Asus p4p800 which support 400/533/800fsb, can reach 1200fsb after OC.
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mine is asus p4s333vm..veli old mobo sweat.gif

if not mistaken oni support till 400fsb..
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Anyone suggest a good cpu cooler for my P4 2.8E?

budget less than RM100 tongue.gif
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less than rm100 lorr? could say almost impossible..maybe u can buy ur fren's one or hav more budget around rm200 maybe..get a good hsf and use AS5..juz my 2.5 cent
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less than 100 u wont feel major temp diff.
just get AS5 for rm25 la.
at least 2-3 deg.
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QUOTE(kev_neville @ Sep 10 2005, 12:07 PM)
If u really put tornado fan maybe the performance will be better a bit.. but make sure u can stand the tornado fan noise...

Or buy a fan controller t control it...  smile.gif
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yeah,the tornado fan are very noisy...my casing are install with 5x 80mm delta fan(0.41A) doh.gif its like a jet engine,I do regret bought 5 of this delta fan sweat.gif
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get nidec fans one instead of deltas..much silent..

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My 1st experience of o/cing smile.gif

Original CPU/Socket : P4 2.4c Northwood
-Stepping : 9, Revision : D1
FSB: 250
Clock Speed: 250*0.12 = 3ghz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): CPU: Stock/RAM: 2.75/ AGP 1.6
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Ram Type/Speed/Timings: Kingston Value Ram/DDR320/2.5-3-4-5

i ran Prime95 for 2 hrs+ and the highest temp is 48 degree is that normal???
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Just want to ask,

Anyone here has achieved max Oc 4 Ghz using a P4 2.4 C ? I need some advice from you.

Pls advice
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Got 1 question here. How high can a 1.7ghz S478 willy can go? I was thinking to build a 2nd hand P4 rig to do 24/7 BT and also it my 1st intel rig. I being change >10 rig, but none is intel.
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Sep 13 2005, 02:42 AM)
get nidec fans one instead of deltas..much silent..
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using 3 tonados,trust me, u need a fan controller!
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Guys please help me newbie. Thanks

227x15=3.4 (2.5-3-2-7)2.7V
3Dmark03 -- ok
Aquamark -- ok
3Dmark01 -- ok
Super pi -- ok
sisoft -- ok

But when trying 230x15 cannot lioa. An error on 03 (stuck at orc)and 01. Others dint try.
Icute450W,P4 3.0C, MSI 875PNeo, Corsair CMX512x1 Pro

When try 234x15 in windows lauching 3D03 system proof error shutdown.sad.gif

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splinter, try raise 0.25vcore and try again.

b4 that, dump the icute PSU for a better one
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0.25Vcore. IC, but i think i try it on new PSU. +0.25 = dangerous or still safe to play with? SOrry dunno much about OC. Normally its hard to OC higher with the stock Vcore right?
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not really.
it depend on your CPU.

eg. some 2.4c can oc to 3.3ghz easily with default vcore
some 2.8c can do 3.8ghz easily with default vcore

heard 3.0c isn't that really a good overclocking chip...
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 16 2005, 12:44 PM)
heard 3.0c isn't that really a good overclocking chip...
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last time using MSi Neo2-V i865PE. all setting for both cpu & RAm r default wan
1st its fail to boot & hang at start-up screen, after clearing the BIOS, both mobo & cpu damage edi doh.gif
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Stock Vcore bios = 1.525 and Corecenter show 1.55

OIC, then i better stick with 3.4 better. since it pass all test. Not prime yet. Maybe wait i get a new PSU 1st and more ram 1st. No point, last time when bought it dunno... or else i also go for 2.8C since its cheaper and good OC. Hai~~~

Max temp 53C ok? reading by corecenter.Speedfan is 52-51. And also about PCI/AGP lock. when increasing FSB, it automatically increase too till 77+ then i manually set to 67.01/33.50. Is it ok for current Ati9600pro and future upgrade (6800 or wadever)?

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hi to all sifus...need help on overclocking my system

1) p4 3.0GHz presscott:
i was able to o/c my cpu to 3.75GHz with fsb set at 250MHz. the question is how much is the Vcore threshold for this cpu? default should be 1.375v now o/v to 1.4125v is it still in the safe region?just dun want to burn my cpu....my current temp is around 53~55c max...is it fine?

2) Corsair pc3200 xms twinx ver1.2 (ch-5?)default timing is 2,3,3,6
my mobo is asus p4p800se, the max o/v i could do is just 2.85v and the result is 2,2,3,5@200Mhz but if o/c the fastest speed ascertain is 2.5,4,4,8@225Mhz, which one is better? also anyway i can go higher on the voltage for the vdimm? any alternative rather than using the ocz booster?
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eh... i got a question.... when i run cpu-z, the voltage of my pc is not stable..i mean the value keep on changing... is that normal???
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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Sep 16 2005, 05:25 PM)
hi to all sifus...need help on overclocking my system

1) p4 3.0GHz presscott:
i was able to o/c my cpu to 3.75GHz with fsb set at 250MHz. the question is how much is the Vcore  threshold for this cpu? default should be 1.375v now o/v to 1.4125v is it still in the safe region?just dun want to burn my cpu....my current temp is around 53~55c max...is it fine?

2) Corsair pc3200 xms twinx ver1.2 (ch-5?)default timing is 2,3,3,6
my mobo is asus p4p800se, the max o/v i could do is just 2.85v and the result is 2,2,3,5@200Mhz but if o/c the fastest speed ascertain is 2.5,4,4,8@225Mhz, which one is better? also anyway i can go higher on the voltage for the vdimm? any alternative rather than using the ocz booster?
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No sifu here, but trying to help...

1) besides ur overclocking results what interest me is the temp...53-55c max???if i were u i kick in more vcore coz ur presscot is consider a cool one...mine at the office running 67-75c stock vcore....

2) i havent heard any bioses that has the option but u can try to get booster and find out if u can pump in more juice...since it is safer that vmod...its better too...


QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Sep 16 2005, 06:18 PM)
eh... i got a question.... when i run cpu-z, the voltage of my pc is not stable..i mean the value keep on changing... is that normal???
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flunctuations is normal.... -+0.03 but if the flunctuations is more than -+ 0.05/6 thats abnormal....PSU problem is most common,...dirty current should also be the problem... notworthy.gif
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ic.... is vcore affecting the flunctuations
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Sep 17 2005, 01:18 PM)
ic.... is vcore affecting the flunctuations
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it is the motherboard itself.

as long as the flunctuations keep at a very small range, it should be safe.
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Cant get 3.0C ->3.4. At 3.4 everything is ok,3Dmark01,03,Aquamark,sisoft,super pi.The only that cant pass is Prime95 1 errors. sad.gif Really bad.

Guys google around found that if stuck certain stage, can try playing divider. How to play on my spec?
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1) besides ur overclocking results what interest me is the temp...53-55c max???if i were u i kick in more vcore coz ur presscot is consider a cool one...mine at the office running 67-75c stock vcore....
[/quote]so what is the max voltage this cpu can take?

2) i havent heard any bioses that has the option but u can try to get booster and find out if u can pump in more juice...since it is safer that vmod...its better too...
[/quote]any info how to use this booster? thanks so much for the helps....

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-Original CPU/Socket : Intel® Pentium® 4 630 3.0GHz L2:2048 KB
-Stepping/ Core: Prescott
-Date : -
-FSB : 200
-Clock Speed : 3000Mhz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : 1.3v
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : Geil DDR2 PC4300 512x2 = 4-4-4-12
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Motherboard
- Brand : Abit
- Model : AL8-v
- Chipset : 945P
- AGP/PCIE : PCI-e
- Bios Version : 6.00PG
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 240 * 15
-Highest RAM : (240) 1:1
-Highest Clock Speed : 3600 MHz
-Highest Vcore : 1.42v
-Highest VDIMM : 1.85v
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Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)

-CPU-Z Validation : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=38675
-Prime95 / PrimeTest : -
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD : -
-Memtest : -
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth : -
-3DMarks 2005 : 3896
-3DMarks 2003 : 9405
-3DMarks 2001 : 19018
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Original CPU/Socket: Pentium 4 2.8 Prescott(ES) LGA775
FSB: 200mhz
Clock Speed: 3.4 ghz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): Stock
Chipset: D915GAV on Intel Desktop Board
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: Kingston 512 ddr333 Hynix BT-J/DDR 400/2.5|3|3|6


this is the highers clock possible on my intel destop board D915GAV....i think i need buy another board tu overclock my pentium(ES)..huhuhu

here also i attach my cpu-z info...take a look.


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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Sep 19 2005, 01:28 AM)
Original CPU/Socket: Pentium 4 2.8 Prescott(ES) LGA775
FSB: 200mhz
Clock Speed: 3.4 ghz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP): Stock
Chipset: D915GAV on Intel Desktop Board
Ram Type/Speed/Timings: Kingston 512 ddr333 Hynix BT-J/DDR 400/2.5|3|3|6
this is the highers clock possible on my intel destop board D915GAV....i think i need buy another board tu overclock my pentium(ES)..huhuhu

here also i attach my cpu-z info...take a look.
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i915 chipset = locks upto 10% of the standard FSB, after that it wont boot.. ada safety mechanism..
if you still wanna playaround with your current mobo, you can try adjusting its chipset voltage (if you have that option la.. will increase 10 - 15 MHz jer, but better than nothing) ..

btw, where did you get your ES from? and how much?
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QUOTE(fendii @ Sep 19 2005, 09:42 PM)
i915 chipset = locks upto 10% of the standard FSB, after that it wont boot.. ada safety mechanism..
if you still wanna playaround with your current mobo, you can try adjusting its chipset voltage (if you have that option la.. will increase 10 - 15 MHz jer, but better than nothing) ..

btw, where did you get your ES from? and how much?
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hmm....actually i get it from my brother...he work as intel engineer at intel penang...ES very rare right?...that's why i use dekstop board D915GAV...the standart intel mobo..he gave all that to me as my birthday present...i'm still newbies in overclocking....so i keep on discover it. smile.gif
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nizamextreme, if u want to oc more.
sell the board and get a nice i865pe or i875 board. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2005, 11:44 PM)
nizamextreme, if u want to oc more.
sell the board and get a nice i865pe or i875 board. biggrin.gif
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Hehehehe...actually we're planning on getting the Lanprty UT 915 T2 as he's quite gatal about the Winbond OC thingy edi and he still wants to play with DDR's. And the BIOS is quite funny. No voltage adjustments. Just timings and a fixed set of FSB's from 333/400/533/600 which I presume are more to dividers. And since it's an ES, can play with multi's too
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 19 2005, 11:44 PM)
nizamextreme, if u want to oc more.
sell the board and get a nice i865pe or i875 board. biggrin.gif
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hmm?? i think those chipset for socket 478 right?...my processor is LGA 775...thats why i use i915 for 775...if u see my cpu-z info..it said i use mpga 478...my cpu-z reading for the socket is invalid..i'll show u my processor and mobo unsure.gif


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Hello there. I'm just a newbie in overclocking. can anybody help me with oc?

Original Socket = Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz C
Stepping = Northwood
FSB = 200
Clock Speed = 2800Mhz
Voltage = 1.6v
RAM type/timing = GSkill 512x2 Samsung TCCD/2.5-3-3-7

Motherboard
Brand = AsusTek Tech
Model = P4P800 Deluxe
Chipset = 865PE
AGP/PCI-E = AGP

Result
Highest FSB = 250.0*14
Highest RAM = 250.0 (1:1)
Highest Clock Speed = 3500Mhz
Highest vcore = 1.65v
Highest vdimm = 2.85v

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CPU-Z validation = http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=39057
Super Pi = 1M calculate : 40s
Sandra = 5262MB/s
3DMARK05 = 2178, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1234018
3DMARK03 = 4643, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4267803
3DMARK01se = 14872, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8724769

So, is there any way i can do to increase my oc? when i try to increase the FSB to 260, my pc will hang up and need to restart. All sifus here maybe can help me.
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any1 tried overclock with p4 630 3.0 2mb with asus mobo??
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nizamextreme !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wat fan lai de?
led fan got 92mm de meh???
where u buy it????
i want led fan for my hyper48 too..
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barclaycard07 , What's ur CPU batch?how many caps does it have, u can check by turning the cpu over facing the pins and count the number of capacitors there. Generally, a 30caps will give u good overclocks.

Bump the AGP voltage to 1.8v (max). This will increase the NB voltage. Set ur Vdimm to 2.75v smile.gif
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Sep 22 2005, 02:31 AM)
nizamextreme !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wat fan lai de?
led fan got 92mm de meh??? 
where u buy it????
i want led fan for my hyper48 too..
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what fan?? thermaltake blue led...got it from low yat la dei.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Sep 20 2005, 12:38 AM)
hmm?? i think those chipset for socket 478 right?...my processor is LGA 775...thats why i use i915 for 775...if u see my cpu-z info..it said i use mpga 478...my cpu-z reading for the socket is invalid..i'll show u my processor and mobo unsure.gif
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sorry. my mistake but still...
sell the Intel board and get something from Asus/Abit.
You should be able to squeeze the every potential of the CPU
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 22 2005, 03:03 PM)
sorry. my mistake but still...
sell the Intel board and get something from Asus/Abit.
You should be able to squeeze the every potential of the CPU
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Hey brothers, I want to overclock my p4 2.4, but I don't know what is the limit. Can anyone tell me how to determine the limit? Should I overclock until 3.0?
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QUOTE(williamlee_1985 @ Sep 28 2005, 03:09 PM)
Hey brothers, I want to overclock my p4 2.4, but I don't know what is the limit. Can anyone tell me how to determine the limit? Should I overclock until 3.0?
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First state your processor. Isit a 2.4A or 2.4C? And also the associated hardware. If C which I presume is a Northwood, on air I can say that 3.2 is possible and prime stable. Even if one plays only with dividers. Best is you start off with dividers of say 4:5 if that option is available. Up slowly the FSB and test it with Prime@SP2004 (USing Small FFT in place test) which is good enough for a general stabillity test until you've hit the limit whereby there will be Prime errors after 5 minutes. Then test somemore by undergoing stress testing the last stable speed for at least 3-4 hours IMHO and if it's stable, you've got your limit. Intel processors generally don't require bumping up of VCore FYI
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what do u mean by limit? u should try to overclock that 1st then you will know when u reach the limit
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Hi all, want to ask something here
system spec:
P4 2.8GHz (northwood)
Asus 865P (800FSB)
1024 DDR400 kingston value RAM (4.3ns)
R9600P VGA

When I OC my system, anything more then 210MHz external clock (840FSB) and In 3DMark03 CPU test benchmark, artifect are everywhere.....only that benchmark, normal 3D benchmark, application all runs well. CPU stress test also didn't crash, running for few hours, CPU temp max about 50c, mobo temp max 45c

Anyone knows where the problem lies?

and also, will adding heat sink to that ram helps my overclocking?

thanks alot smile.gif
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Hornet, we'd need to know what those KVR's are using in terms of chips. If we don't we can't be sure. If Hynix then it'd be strange. If Elpedia or sumthing llike that...I won't be surprised.

Try using dividers instead to psuh up the proc if that option is available. And if I'm not mistaken, there's a prob with GFX's everytime you push up the FSB. Did you check whether the AGP frequency is properly locked at 66Mhz?
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 28 2005, 05:29 PM)
try flashing the BIOS...reason: so that the option to shutdown the PC when cpu fan is not spinning will be turned off.

try taking out the board and fit test it with minimum stuff...take out HDD, fdd, cdroms and so on. If boot up successful, then either it's one of those items causing the problem or sometimes you have something shorting the motherboard somewhere. Once everything works fine. Carefull re-insert the motherboard into the casing and make absolutely sure that the motherboard is not being shorted anywhere especially those hexagon-gold-color-motherboard-raiser.
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Hornet, which Asus 865PE ur using? If it's P4P800, there's issue on AGP tearing n artifacts. It's a known issue. Try these:

1) Update ur Mobo's Bios to the latest.
2) Increase Vagp to 1.6v
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Sep 28 2005, 06:10 PM)
Hornet, we'd need to know what those KVR's are using in terms of chips. If we don't we can't be sure. If Hynix then it'd be strange. If Elpedia or sumthing llike that...I won't be surprised.

Try using dividers instead to psuh up the proc if that option is available. And if I'm not mistaken, there's a prob with GFX's everytime you push up the FSB. Did you check whether the AGP frequency is properly locked at 66Mhz?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 28 2005, 06:15 PM)
Hornet, which Asus 865PE ur using? If it's P4P800, there's issue on AGP tearing n artifacts. It's a known issue. Try these:

1) Update ur Mobo's Bios to the latest.
2) Increase Vagp to 1.6v
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Erm, the RAM, KVR400X64C3A/512 .......Hynix chips BTW
The mobo, it's Asus P4P8X, northbridge supposely i865P (not PE though)
And yeah, AGP was lock at 66.66/33.33

Anyway, in normal 3D rendering, nothing wrong as far as i know...only that 3DMark03 CPU test, lots of artifect
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Probably try increasing the Vagp to 1.6v?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 28 2005, 07:08 PM)
Probably try increasing the Vagp to 1.6v?
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Tried that, but unfortunetly it didnt work. The artifect still the same

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hey i just wana ask a few questions...i hav a p4 2.4c northwood 533mhz fsb skt 478,msi neo2 i865pe,512mb ddr266 kvr and ati 9550 256mb.....now i oc-ed my cpu to 2700mhz which is stable,but when i try my fsb 180*18=3240mhz,it crashes...does dis mean dat 3200mhz is da max or something?btw my ram divider is 4:5 currently rucnning at ddr375 speed n my cpu multiplier is locked at 18x.wat should i do?change da divider,up da voltage or ?thx notworthy.gif
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kucingfight: Is there a reason you told barclaycard to bump vdimm to 2.75 instead of 2.85?

My own experience with my 2.4C hasn't been good, tried vagp up to 1.8 as well as increasing vcore up to 1.6, but it just won't be prime stable above 255MHz. I've already elimated the RAM by making it run at a lowly 200-220MHz and I know the RAM is prime stable up to above 255Mhz.
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Sep 28 2005, 06:00 PM)
Hi all, want to ask something here
system spec:
P4 2.8GHz (northwood)
Asus 865P (800FSB)
1024 DDR400 kingston value RAM (4.3ns)
R9600P VGA

When I OC my system, anything more then 210MHz external clock (840FSB) and In 3DMark03 CPU test benchmark, artifect are everywhere.....only that benchmark, normal 3D benchmark, application all runs well. CPU stress test also didn't crash, running for few hours, CPU temp max about 50c, mobo temp max 45c

Anyone knows where the problem lies?

and also, will adding heat sink to that ram helps my overclocking?

thanks alot smile.gif
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this is the common issue for 865 chipset when u use 1gb ram to oc

http://www.cpuid.org/download/Tw865.zip

download this, change the dram latency parameter from 00 to 01
hope this help

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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Sep 28 2005, 07:42 PM)
this is the common issue for 865 chipset when u use 1gb ram to oc

http://www.cpuid.org/download/Tw865.zip

download this, change the dram latency parameter from 00 to 01
hope this help
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wow, it really works...now its gone biggrin.gif
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BTW, i'm not sure what is that....will it affect the performance?
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wow, it really works...now its gone biggrin.gif
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BTW, i'm not sure what is that....will it affect the performance?
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the performance wont affect IMHO... haha enjoy it, just a piece of cake biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Sep 28 2005, 07:59 PM)
the performance wont affect IMHO... haha enjoy it, just a piece of cake biggrin.gif
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hmm....one more thing
I notice it goes back to 00 after restart...so need to set everytime I boot up?
I try to find inside the bios, but there isn't any such option...
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Thanks for the tip there zt_lee, i didnt know bout the tweak there myself.

@evilnickwong . mmm 2.85v-->2.75v?

Personally,after some tweaks and tests, i've got 257fsb @2.75v prime95/fold/3dmark stable. 2x512mb Hynix DT d43, MAM on, Performance= standard. CL 2.5-4-4-8. Vagp= 1.6v. Trying to hit the magical 260fsb. rolleyes.gif

Anyways, The AsusLiveUpdate doesn't work with SP2, oh well yawn.gif

@Hornet, well i think u got to manually set the parameter everytime

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Sep 28 2005, 08:26 PM)
hmm....one more thing
I notice it goes back to 00 after restart...so need to set everytime I boot up?
I try to find inside the bios, but there isn't any such option...
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ya.. i think u got to set it manually everytime restart tongue.gif

QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 28 2005, 10:07 PM)
Thanks for the tip there zt_lee, i didnt know bout the tweak there myself.

@evilnickwong . mmm 2.85v-->2.75v?

Personally,after some tweaks and tests, i've got 257fsb @2.75v prime95/fold/3dmark stable. 2x512mb Hynix DT d43, MAM on, Performance= standard. CL 2.5-4-4-8. Vagp= 1.6v. Trying to hit the magical 260fsb.  rolleyes.gif

Anyways, The AsusLiveUpdate doesn't work with SP2, oh well  yawn.gif

@Hornet, well i think u got to manually set the parameter everytime
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this tweaking software is quite good, u can disable PAT oso if u are using the 875 like me,in order to get higher fsb...

currently with my 2x512 tccd, i got 275 with all the memtest no error... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Sep 28 2005, 06:10 PM)
Hornet, we'd need to know what those KVR's are using in terms of chips. If we don't we can't be sure. If Hynix then it'd be strange. If Elpedia or sumthing llike that...I won't be surprised.

Try using dividers instead to psuh up the proc if that option is available. And if I'm not mistaken, there's a prob with GFX's everytime you push up the FSB. Did you check whether the AGP frequency is properly locked at 66Mhz?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 28 2005, 10:07 PM)
Thanks for the tip there zt_lee, i didnt know bout the tweak there myself.

@evilnickwong . mmm 2.85v-->2.75v?

Personally,after some tweaks and tests, i've got 257fsb @2.75v prime95/fold/3dmark stable. 2x512mb Hynix DT d43, MAM on, Performance= standard. CL 2.5-4-4-8. Vagp= 1.6v. Trying to hit the magical 260fsb.  rolleyes.gif

Anyways, The AsusLiveUpdate doesn't work with SP2, oh well  yawn.gif

@Hornet, well i think u got to manually set the parameter everytime
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Well my usual settings if I'm OC-ing are to set to 255MHz FSB, default vcore, MAM on, PAM standard, 1:1, 2.5-3-4-6, default vagp, vdimm 2.85v.
That setup is prime/3dmark/memtest stable. But the moment I take a step higher in FSB, prime goes to hell after less than a minute. Increasing vagp and vcore doesn't help, bumping RAM speeds down doesn't either. And yeah, the AGP/PCI is set to 66/33.

zt_lee: What are the other settings for in that little tweak utility you posted? And do changes take effect immediately? I never knew you could change timings from Windows. wink.gif

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Well my usual settings if I'm OC-ing are to set to 255MHz FSB, default vcore, MAM on, PAM standard, 1:1, 2.5-3-4-6, default vagp, vdimm 2.85v.
That setup is prime/3dmark/memtest stable. But the moment I take a step higher in FSB, prime goes to hell after less than a minute. Increasing vagp and vcore doesn't help, bumping RAM speeds down doesn't either. And yeah, the AGP/PCI is set to 66/33.

zt_lee: What are the other settings for in that little tweak utility you posted? And do changes take effect immediately? I never knew you could change timings from Windows. wink.gif
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of cos take effect immediately, u dont have to restart pc...
about the tweak utility setting, i am not sure which setting is the best.. paiseh bout that..try it out urself
all the best and post ur oc result after and bfore using this utility
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Juz to note here, under the Performance mode in tw865, In theory, it should be able to enable/disable PAT. In the Case of Enabling it(865p families), and when it's double checked with CTIAW, it will only show Partially Enabled(not fully enabled), unlike the 875p which has Full PAT by default.

My point is tat,don be fooled thinking PAT is 100% on by juz enabling Peformance Mode in tw865. It's in fact, partially enabled
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Don't know about other manufacturers, but I know that for a P4P800, PAT is always enabled if you're running at 200MHz FSB (i.e. not OC-ed). The moment you bump it up to even 201, PAT gets disabled. As far as I've read, the Performance Acceleration Mode only attempts to tighten RAM timings which means it's only useful with TCCD or BH-5. I know this for a fact because if I leave RAM timings to SPD, but set PAM to Turbo, my old BH-5 RAMs would default to 2-2-2-5.

The only way I've seen for getting PAT above 200MHz FSB is with bigtoe's BIOS mod. More details at the ABXZone forums.
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I'd like to ask about the voltage for core and DRAM

1. in the bios, it's set to auto...does it means it'll automatically adjust for stability when I oc? Or better to manualy set it

2. I once tried set in the bios, vcore to 1.5875, but in Windows, Asus Probe detect it at 1.64V sweat.gif Which reading is accurate....is the BIOS setting there set it to absolutely 1.58, or it's just a rough figure?

3.whats the safe margin for vcore and also the ram

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1. Automatic, it means default voltage, depends on ur cpu itself, 1.525v or 1.550v. U hav2 manually adjust to find the sweet spot when overclocking.

2. Tat's the voltage during 'idle' mod. Try stressing the cpu by folding or prime and the voltage will drop to 'load' probablt to around 1.55v

3. Try to keep below 1.65 if ur on Aircooling. Aso apply some good thermal compund
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1. Automatic, it means default voltage, depends on ur cpu itself, 1.525v or 1.550v. U hav2 manually adjust to find the sweet spot when overclocking.

2. Tat's the voltage during 'idle' mod. Try stressing the cpu by folding or prime and the voltage will drop to 'load' probablt to around 1.55v

3. Try to keep below 1.65 if ur on Aircooling. Aso apply some good thermal compund
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hye my intel fella..notworthy.gif actually this my first time in this OC thing.. here is my first attempt after exploring this forum.. It's very good guide in Overclockers United.. thumbup.gif
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Original CPU/Socket : Pentium 4 2.0 (Northwood)/478
-Stepping : 4
-Date :
-FSB : 100
-Clock Speed : 2000MHz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : CPU 1.5/RAM 2.6/AGP 1.6
-Chipset : i865PE
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : KHX4300K2/3-4-4-8
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Results

-Highest FSB : 140
-Highest RAM :
-Highest Clock Speed : 2800 MHz
-Highest Vcore : 1.8V
-Highest VDIMM : 1.7V

The proccessor load temp is 51c and idle at 43.5 as shown in the picture above..
I would like to hear some suggestion about the VCore that i applied for the processor.. Is it to high?.. Also i'm wondering if i can push it up any higher?.. Ur comment is really appreciated..

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is it 1.8V applied for Vcore too much of risky guyz?!.. Im running my computer since this morning with dat configuration..
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did overclock the proc too much will reduce their lifetime sifu?..
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did overclock the proc too much will reduce their lifetime sifu?..
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Specs And Technical Data.

-Original CPU/Socket : Pentium M - 1.73Ghz - mPGA-479M - Dothan
-Stepping : 8
-Date : ??? - today is 2005 October 15
-FSB : 533Mhz
-Clock Speed : 1.733Ghz
-Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : CPU - 1.356V ::: RAM - 1.8V ::: Chipset - ? ::: AGP - ?
-Chipset : i915PM/GM/GMS
-Ram Type/Speed/Timings : Samsung PC4300 (266Mhz) DDR2 - 1GB - 4-4-4-11
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Results.(Min. 3 Filled)

-Highest FSB : 146.4Mhz smile.gif can go higher~
-Highest RAM : 292.7Mhz sad.gif stopped here
-Highest Clock Speed : 1902.7Mhz
-Highest Vcore : 1.356V
-Highest VDIMM : -
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Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)
-CPU-Z Validation : ID:43529

-Prime95 / PrimeTest : -
-Super PI/ Super PI MOD : -
-Memtest : -
-Sandra Memory Bandwidth : -
-3DMarks 2005 : -
-3DMarks 2003 : 6238 (ATI Mobility X700 - 128mb - stock)
-3DMarks 2001 : -

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somebody help me here..

proc : Prescott 2.4A oc to 3.43 (191*18)
Mobo : Abit AI-7
RAM : Kingston KVR Bt-D43

highest fsb : 191
RAM Timings : 3-4-4-8
VCore : 1.425
VDimm : 2.8

y cannot boot up on 200fsb..? already tried loose timings, tight timings..
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I have a question,about my P4 2.6C on Abit IC7-G mobo using Apacer DDR333 (Infineon chipset)with default timing 2.5-3-3-7.I got try to o/c my RAM from 166Mhz to 218Mhz with CPU:DRAM=1:1 ratio.My CPU is 218 FSB.Result is stable after i run on benchmarks and also playing games.But another thing is i am not so understand about my RAM that it cant even reach 200Mhz with CPU:DRAM=5:4 while my CPU FSB is 250.It wont be stable in gaming but stable in benchmark.The pc just hanged when the game started about 5 to 10 minutes.Sometimes no hanged.My Vdimm default at 2.6v.But i have tried to increased the Vdimm to max 2.8 but also happenned the same thing.Then i put back to 245 FSB then everything run smooth in benchies and gaming.Even 246FSB will cause pc hanged also sometime.SAD...

I wish i can go above 250 FSB but i know my Apacer RAM is giving me a limitation.Can anyone help me in this?10q...
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somebody help me here..

proc : Prescott 2.4A oc to 3.43 (191*18)
Mobo : Abit AI-7
RAM : Kingston KVR Bt-D43

highest fsb : 191
RAM Timings : 3-4-4-8
VCore : 1.425
VDimm : 2.8

y cannot boot up on 200fsb..? already tried loose timings, tight timings..
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set ur GAT to AAADD and try again

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Oct 15 2005, 01:05 PM)
I have a question,about my P4 2.6C on Abit IC7-G mobo using Apacer DDR333 (Infineon chipset)with default timing 2.5-3-3-7.I got try to o/c my RAM from 166Mhz to 218Mhz with CPU:DRAM=1:1 ratio.My CPU is 218 FSB.Result is stable after i run on benchmarks and also playing games.But another thing is i am not so understand about my RAM that it cant even reach 200Mhz with CPU:DRAM=5:4 while my CPU FSB is 250.It wont be stable in gaming but stable in benchmark.The pc just hanged when the game started about 5 to 10 minutes.Sometimes no hanged.My Vdimm default at 2.6v.But i have tried to increased the Vdimm to max 2.8 but also happenned the same thing.Then i put back to 245 FSB then everything run smooth in benchies and gaming.Even 246FSB will cause pc hanged also sometime.SAD...

I wish i can go above 250 FSB but i know my Apacer RAM is giving me a limitation.Can anyone help me in this?10q...
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althouhg ur ram can reach 218Mhz, but sumtime using divider to clock the ram equal or above the speed, u wont success due to the ram doesnt like divider. My experience oso like that... TCCD doing 275fsb 1:1, but wont do 320fsb at 5:4.
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set ur GAT to AAADD and try again
althouhg ur ram can reach 218Mhz, but sumtime using divider to clock the ram equal or above the speed, u wont success due to the ram doesnt like divider. My experience oso like that... TCCD doing 275fsb 1:1, but wont do 320fsb at 5:4.
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hello there all sifoo...just need ur opinion..i wonder what is the best mobo for me to oc my proc..i'm only use standart desktop board now..one of my fren said dfi lanparty 915 t-12 is good..well i see most of u use asus....hurmm..any suggestion?
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already set GAT to AAADD but still cannot pass 200fsb..
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Got a problem

I'm using :

proc : P4 3.0E S489 + XP90c
Mobo : MSI 865PE Neo2-V
RAM : 1gb KVR 400

Vcore set to 1.5
Whenever I increase my FSB to above 213-215 my Windows crashes on startup (BSOD). When I increased it to 220 it won't even boot (stuck at Mobo brand screen) and Cmos reset needed.

After I restore everything, and the windows recovery error appears, it says that its Random Access Memory problem.

I can only OC till 3.15ghz without problem sad.gif
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Oct 16 2005, 11:24 AM)
Got a problem

I'm using :

proc : P4 3.0E S489 + XP90c
Mobo : MSI 865PE Neo2-V
RAM : 1gb KVR 400

Vcore set to 1.5
Whenever I increase my FSB to above 213-215 my Windows crashes on startup (BSOD). When I increased it to 220 it won't even boot (stuck at Mobo brand screen) and Cmos reset needed.

After I restore everything, and the windows recovery error appears, it says that its Random Access Memory problem.

I can only OC till 3.15ghz without problem sad.gif
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Could it be your mobo problem?Your mobo is limiting your o/cing.Since you are using 1GB KVR400,i assumed is Kingston KVR DDR400 rite?Another question on your KVR,What is the chipset on the RAM using?DT-43?

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QUOTE(zogenk @ Oct 16 2005, 09:15 AM)
already set GAT to AAADD but still cannot pass 200fsb..
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tell me ur ram chips..and the psu u use
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my ram is KVR DT-D43 and psu is Coolermaster 380w Extreme...

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QUOTE(zogenk @ Oct 17 2005, 08:21 AM)
my ram is KVR DT-D43 and psu is Coolermaster 380w Extreme...
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Dt d43 shouldn't be a problem...Ur psu is not good enough imho...I think it is not true power rite?

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yups..i need to change psu before oc like hell..? is acbel iPower 500w enough..?
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yups..i need to change psu before oc like hell..? is acbel iPower 500w enough..?
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acbel is not bad..
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dear sifu.. i cant set my cpu:dram ratio to "1:1" on my IS7-E.. the only option there is "3:4" and "by SPD".. how come eh?.. i saw other people can set it to "1:1" using the same board..
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hie there, is overclocking a little bit harmful to my system? wad are the cons of overclocking?

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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Oct 22 2005, 01:47 AM)
dear sifu.. i cant set my cpu:dram ratio to "1:1" on my IS7-E.. the only option there is "3:4" and "by SPD".. how come eh?.. i saw other people can set it to "1:1" using the same board..
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tell us ur ram chip type, cpu
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 23 2005, 01:23 AM)
tell us ur ram chip type, cpu
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ram chips - Hynix DT-D43(khx4300k2)
cpu - P4 2.0(northwood) sweat.gif

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smile.gif Guys

I'm an intel overclocker already but still have some questions to ask

I am going to get intel 630 3.0ghz 2mb cache processor soon . I already had an intel 915G chipset mobo Free from my aunt who is working for intel. Now tongue.gif I am kind of gatal already, i want to get a new motherboard and OC. Should i do so?

If i wanna OC,i wanna go extreme so it would be like buying new sets of good rams...nice motherboard and cooler..... if like this, would you guys recommend me to get a higher clocked processor ( like getting 3.4ghz ) than OC it?
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QUOTE(zqotue @ Oct 23 2005, 12:26 AM)
hie there, is overclocking a little bit harmful to my system? wad are the cons of overclocking?
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the worst that can happen is that u burn everything in ur casing yawn.gif

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QUOTE(songhan89 @ Oct 23 2005, 10:34 AM)
smile.gif  Guys

I'm an intel overclocker already but still have some questions to ask

I am going to get intel 630 3.0ghz 2mb cache processor soon . I already had an intel 915G chipset mobo Free from my aunt who is working for intel. Now  tongue.gif  I am kind of gatal already, i want to get a new motherboard and OC. Should i do so?

If i wanna OC,i wanna go extreme so it would be like buying new sets of good rams...nice motherboard and cooler..... if like this, would you guys recommend me to get a higher clocked processor ( like getting 3.4ghz ) than OC it?
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Usually people prefer low clock cpu to oc it so that can get high fsb...

make sure u got water cooling to oc it extremely

QUOTE(newbieockids @ Oct 23 2005, 01:42 AM)
ram chips - Hynix DT-D43(khx4300k2)
cpu - P4 2.0(northwood) sweat.gif
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set the GAT to AAADD and try again. Set the ram timing to 3448
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 23 2005, 06:24 PM)
Usually people prefer low clock cpu to oc it so that can get high fsb...

make sure u got water cooling to oc it extremely
set the GAT to AAADD and try again. Set the ram timing to 3448
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sorry for asking,
may i know what is GAT to AAADD.
is this the bios setting or what. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 23 2005, 06:24 PM)
Usually people prefer low clock cpu to oc it so that can get high fsb...

make sure u got water cooling to oc it extremely
set the GAT to AAADD and try again. Set the ram timing to 3448
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GAT to AAADD?.. my mobo seem dont have these option @ bios.. what is dat for anyway bro?.. the multiplier for this mobo is also have been locked @ 20.. do u know how to unlock it?.. by the way i'd figured out the lies.. the cpu:dram ratio depends on the cpu itself.. after i change the option ->n/b strap cpu as<- "PSB 533" from "by CPU" the cpu:dram option "1:1" and "4:5" appeared.. now im running my P4 2.0 @ 2.8 @ 1.65V(49 idle, 62.5 load).. cpu:ram - 140:175(multiplier x20).. ram timing 3-4-4-8 @ 2.7V.. would like to ask ur opinion bout what more can i do next bro?..

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Hi guyz,im a noob in this section.Can my processor:Pentium 4 HT 2.6c & my motherboard:Abit IS7-E Duo good for overclocking.Help me out here
& u all say my CPU how high i can go le?

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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Oct 25 2005, 01:02 PM)
Hi guyz,im a noob in this section.Can my processor:Pentium 4 HT 2.6c & my motherboard:Abit IS7-E Duo good for overclocking.Help me out here
& u all say my CPU how high i can go le?
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yeah both ur mobo and procs is very good in OC.. maybe u should try it first.. then u will know how far it can go ler..
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yeah both ur mobo and procs is very good in OC.. maybe u should try it first.. then u will know how far it can go ler..
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but i hear some body say cause i'm using Corsiar value ram.. it limit me to oc.. is there true?
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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Oct 25 2005, 06:11 PM)
but i hear some body say cause i'm using Corsiar value ram.. it limit me to oc.. is there true?
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i just use chapalang ram b4 to push my 2.0 @ 2.4..
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QUOTE(lst @ Oct 23 2005, 09:08 PM)
sorry for asking,
may i know what is GAT to AAADD.
is this the bios setting or what. unsure.gif
thanks
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Only the abit mobo has that option...

QUOTE(newbieockids @ Oct 23 2005, 09:25 PM)
GAT to AAADD?.. my mobo seem dont have these option @ bios.. what is dat for anyway bro?.. the multiplier for this mobo is also have been locked @ 20.. do u know how to unlock it?.. by the way i'd figured out the lies.. the cpu:dram ratio depends on the cpu itself.. after i change the option ->n/b strap cpu as<- "PSB 533" from "by CPU" the cpu:dram option "1:1" and "4:5" appeared.. now im running my P4 2.0 @ 2.8 @ 1.65V(49 idle, 62.5 load).. cpu:ram - 140:175(multiplier x20).. ram timing 3-4-4-8 @ 2.7V.. would like to ask ur opinion bout what more can i do next bro?..
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i tot is 7 has this option in bios?

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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 25 2005, 09:31 PM)
Only the abit mobo has that option...
i tot is 7 has this option in bios?
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dunno why mine IS7-e dun have dat option.. sweat.gif
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i wanna ask my rig
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my HSF is aerocool gt1000 gold plated

can OC until 4.0mhz ah...for benchmarking onli.....dont tell me try cuz i takut explode
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QUOTE(Torniquet @ Oct 26 2005, 01:22 AM)
i wanna ask my rig
lga775 3.0Ghz
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512mb x2 geil ram
acbel ipower 450w
my HSF is aerocool gt1000 gold plated

can OC until 4.0mhz ah...for benchmarking onli.....dont tell me try cuz i takut explode
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want to ask .. what cooler u using now? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Oct 25 2005, 11:31 PM)
dunno why mine IS7-e dun have dat option.. sweat.gif
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should have, it is under adcanced chipset if i am rite..


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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 26 2005, 05:37 PM)
should have, it is under adcanced chipset  if i am rite..
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nope dun have one.. might be bcoz i've flashed the latest bios?..
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nope dun have one.. might be bcoz i've flashed the latest bios?..
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if dont have, flash bios oso helpless i guess... u should ask the forumer who using the is7 board, iirc kucingfight and shinjite use the same board as urs
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 28 2005, 03:21 PM)
if dont have, flash bios oso helpless i guess... u should ask the forumer who using the is7 board, iirc kucingfight and shinjite use the same board as urs
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allrite.. thanx for ur help.. i really appreciate it.. notworthy.gif
by the way, is P4 2.8E good to OC?..

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allrite.. thanx for ur help.. i really appreciate it.. notworthy.gif
by the way, is P4 2.8E good to OC?..
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if want to play preschot..then make sure u have a very very good cooling. Find the E0 stepping is the best.

2.8E is good enough to oc it
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want to ask about the RAM dividers
I'm using a Asus P4P8X (865P chipset)
2 stick on KVR DDR400 ram totalling 1GB RAM with dual channel config
P4 C (2.8Ghz)

Under the DRAM Frequency setting which sets the divider, there's only [Auto] and [400] setting....no [333] and [266]
So is my divider locked at 1:1 ratio?
And what cause this problem? izit the chipset, ram or incompatibility issues?

thx in advance notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Oct 30 2005, 11:43 AM)
want to ask about the RAM dividers
I'm using a Asus P4P8X (865P chipset)
2 stick on KVR DDR400 ram totalling 1GB RAM with dual channel config
P4 C (2.8Ghz)

Under the DRAM Frequency setting which sets the divider, there's only [Auto] and [400] setting....no [333] and [266]
So is my divider locked at 1:1 ratio?
And what cause this problem? izit the chipset, ram or incompatibility issues?

thx in advance notworthy.gif
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400 = 1:1
333 = 5:4
266 = 3:2

cheers
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 30 2005, 12:53 PM)
400 = 1:1
333 = 5:4
266 = 3:2

cheers
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yeah, i'm aware of that
but my problem is that there are only auto and 400 option in the dram freq there. So i was wondering why there isn other ratio sweat.gif
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should have what since u r using 865 chipset
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Oct 30 2005, 08:45 PM)
should have what since u r using 865 chipset
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i thought so too, in the manual shows that option as well...but somehow it seems to be lock at 1:1
wonder if theres any way to tweak the bios or something to enable the feature sweat.gif
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I just noticed today that with current new BIOS, the P4P800-E Dlx has PAT enabled even if you've OC-ed to 260MHz FSB. Previously, PAT would only be enabled on this board at stock 200MHz.
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I'm having problem overclocking my pc. Here's my pc spec.
PC spec
Pentium 4 3.0E
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Corsair TwinX XMS 4000PT 512MB (500mhz) 3.4.4.8

I've tried overclocking my RAM's clockspeed to 500mhz (currently running 400mhz) but it couldn't boot. I tried running at 433mhz, it works fine but i wonder y i can't overclock it to 500mhz. The other day i asked a guy in the shop. i told him to test on my RAM. he showed me how he did it. yes indeed he really could overclock it to 500mhz with the same set of mobo n processor as mine. I've tried configured everthing in the BIOS setup but it still doesn't work. wonder wats wrong with it.
Can any1 help me out? Pls gimme some guidance. Maybe i did something wrong overclocking it.
Thx ^^
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wan 2 aSk 1 question...

if i oc my p4 lets say 3.0ghz to 3.5ghz... then i remove the proc n install it to another mobo, will it (d proc speed) remain 3.5ghz (oc) or return tu 3.0ghz (stock)...

thank u...
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of cos return to 3ghz ...
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QUOTE(Kyoshiro @ Nov 5 2005, 06:06 AM)
I'm having problem overclocking my pc. Here's my pc spec.
PC spec
Pentium 4 3.0E
MSI 865PE Neo2
Corsair TwinX  XMS 4000PT 512MB (500mhz) 3.4.4.8

I've tried overclocking my RAM's clockspeed to 500mhz (currently running 400mhz) but it couldn't boot. I tried running at 433mhz, it works fine but i wonder y i can't overclock it to 500mhz. The other day i asked a guy in the shop. i told him to test on my RAM. he showed me how he did it. yes indeed he really could overclock it to 500mhz with the same set of mobo n processor as mine. I've tried configured everthing in the BIOS setup but it still doesn't work. wonder wats wrong with it.
Can any1 help me out? Pls gimme some guidance. Maybe i did something wrong overclocking it.
Thx ^^
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apply more vdimm if u can and make sure ur processor will stand 250fsb
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QUOTE(baok @ Nov 5 2005, 06:18 PM)
wan 2 aSk 1 question...

if i oc my p4 lets say 3.0ghz to 3.5ghz... then i remove the proc n install it to another mobo, will it (d proc speed) remain 3.5ghz (oc) or return tu 3.0ghz (stock)...

thank u...
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the OC settings is saved inside your BIOS, not inside your processor...
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Nov 5 2005, 07:23 PM)
apply more vdimm if u can and make sure ur processor will stand 250fsb
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Sorry i'm kinda noob ^^ wats a vdimm? i'm sure my processor can stand 250fsb.
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thankz.. now i understand...

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QUOTE(Kyoshiro @ Nov 5 2005, 09:27 PM)
Sorry i'm kinda noob ^^ wats a vdimm? i'm sure my processor can stand 250fsb.
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ddr ram voltage... it is just like vcore to raise ur cpu voltage, so this is likewise. Depend on mobo has this option or not
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Hope I'm not too late to post mine tongue.gif

Specs And Technical Data
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Original CPU/Socket : Intel Pentium4C 2.4GHz Socket 478 800MHz
Stepping : D1 (Code SL6WF, Batch Q322A157) <-- Made in Malaysia
Date : 6/26/2003
FSB : 200
Clock Speed : 2.4GHz
Voltage (CPU/RAM/Chipset/AGP) : 1.525V/2.6V/?/1.55V
Chipset : Intel 865PE
Ram Type/Speed/Timings : 3-3-3-8

Results.(Min. 3 Filled)
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Highest FSB : 275FSB Stable 288FSB Max
Highest RAM : 440MHz Stable 461MHz+ Max
Highest Clock Speed : 3.3GHz Stable 3.457GHz Max with CPU-Z
Highest Vcore : 1.575V stable but tested at 1.8V as well
Highest VDIMM : 2.8V <-- Limit by board loh (Abit IS7-E)

Benchmarks/Stability Testing/ Proof Of Testing. (Min 3 types of testing)
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CPU-Z Validation : @ 3.457GHz (288FSB on Air cooling)
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Prime95 / PrimeTest : Not tested <-- Not for stability purpose
Super PI/ Super PI MOD : Got used but no screenie
Memtest : Not tested
Sandra Memory Bandwidth : 6025
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3DMarks 2005 : 2376
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3DMarks 2003 : 4856
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try and tighten your rams timings and c how things go.
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u o/c to 3.3Ghz but still 3dmark05 below 3k??


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The tightest I can go is around 2.5-3-3-6 I think. But it wasn't stable so I had to loosen a little. Been OC'ing it for 2 years plus now but changing the OC from time to time cos not stable for little gaming. Only recently change casing, new cooling etc etc. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Nov 7 2005, 10:16 AM)
The tightest I can go is around 2.5-3-3-6 I think. But it wasn't stable so I had to loosen a little. Been OC'ing it for 2 years plus now but changing the OC from time to time cos not stable for little gaming. Only recently change casing, new cooling etc etc. tongue.gif
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i guess is the ram stop u, i assume u use divider rite?
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Yup divider set at 5:4
My graphic only 9550V+ woh. What to expect from 3dmark05 leh?
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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Nov 7 2005, 10:07 PM)
Yup divider set at 5:4
My graphic only 9550V+ woh. What to expect from 3dmark05 leh?
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yup 3dmark2005 really test/stress your graffic performance..mine using x800gt only get around 4500 score. huh.gif
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Ho Ho
Last time even worse leh. My ol skool FX5200 64-bit only get me 1100+ score in 3dmark03 leh... tongue.gif. Feel happier after changing to 9550. At least for now lah tongue.gif
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Speaking of old procs..
the black celerons, pentium2 era.

Had a c400 that blew up OCed to 420 only laugh.gif
Now i have a c500 that takes 525 easily. The fastest model by intel for this series was a 533. How far do you think this proc can go?

Can it actually make it to 560 or so? Or better stick with 525?
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Not so sure but I think what they say is celeron is not so good at OC. I had OC a 600EB to733MHz before but not stable. I think tualatin are much better in OC. Rite now using a Tualatin 1GHz OC at 1.32GHz. Rite now using it 24/7 at 32C temp load. Quite ok still. Advice is better check ur temp and dun push volt first. Make sure you lap properly the thermal paste cos I noticed before some mobo dun even fire up if you put the processor and HS wrongly <-- not touching. You may boot for a while then hang... You will know why if you take off the HS and while switched on, touch on the proc <-- erm not advisable tongue.gif
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Speaking of old procs..
the black celerons, pentium2 era.

Had a c400 that blew up OCed to 420 only laugh.gif
Now i have a c500 that takes 525 easily. The fastest model by intel for this series was a 533. How far do you think this proc can go?

Can it actually make it to 560 or so? Or better stick with 525?
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Your both Celeronof 400 amd 500 are of Mendocino. Or called Celeron I. The max speed of the family is 533mhz. It used 250nm process.

Chances of going higher than 533 is very low. Even at 533, it was not stable also.

The heat is an issue. Maybe you can try with those today's latest heatsink to see if can cool down your Celeron fast enough so that you can go higher.
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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Nov 13 2005, 09:49 AM)
Not so sure but I think what they say is celeron is not so good at OC. I had OC a 600EB to733MHz before but not stable. I think tualatin are much better in OC. Rite now using a Tualatin 1GHz OC at 1.32GHz. Rite now using it 24/7 at 32C temp load. Quite ok still. Advice is better check ur temp and dun push volt first. Make sure you lap properly the thermal paste cos I noticed before some mobo dun even fire up if you put the processor and HS wrongly <-- not touching. You may boot for a while then hang... You will know why if you take off the HS and while switched on, touch on the proc <-- erm not advisable tongue.gif
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The Celeron II, the Coopermine family of 180nm process, were an excellent overclocker. The speed started from 533 until like 1000 or 1100.

You had a 600EB ? That is not Celeron, but P3. E means Coopermine/180nm and B means 133mhz FSB. Celeron has only 66 and 100 FSB.

For P3 of any EB speed, they were not popular among overclocker. Due to unable to clock higher. Not because of processor, but because of mobo limitation. And mobo limitation were mainly limited by the ram speed (pc100/133 sdaram).

Celeron Coopermine. When first released, were the hot cake among overclockers. 566mhz at 8.5 x 66, were easily overclocked to 8.5 x >95 to achieve >800mhz speed.

And better yet, eventhough Celeron has only 128k cache, compare to P3 of 256k cache, the performance at same mhz speed were less than 10% difference. But the price of a 566mhz Celeron was like 1/3 of a 800mhz P3.


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does anybody overclock their p4 2.4b?? i'm planning to OC my proc.. bt the prob is that my mobo doesnt have a temp sensor.. so i cant actually gauge the temperature that my proc is at.. so i need sum guidance to where is my OC limit? my mobo is giga sg667

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QUOTE(epsilon99 @ Nov 13 2005, 10:59 PM)
The Celeron II, the Coopermine family of 180nm process, were an excellent overclocker.  The speed started from 533 until like 1000 or 1100.

You had a 600EB ?  That is not Celeron, but P3.  E means Coopermine/180nm and B means 133mhz FSB.  Celeron has only 66 and 100 FSB.

For P3 of any EB speed, they were not popular among overclocker.  Due to unable to clock higher.  Not because of processor, but because of mobo limitation.  And mobo limitation were mainly limited by the ram speed (pc100/133 sdaram).

Celeron Coopermine.  When first released, were the hot cake among overclockers.  566mhz at 8.5 x 66, were easily overclocked to 8.5 x >95 to achieve >800mhz speed.

And better yet, eventhough Celeron has only 128k cache, compare to P3 of 256k cache, the performance at same mhz speed were less than 10% difference.  But the price of a 566mhz Celeron was like 1/3 of a 800mhz P3.
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Wow, thanks for the explanation epsilon99. On my Tualatin, I was limited by the mobo settings and couldn't go any further. If only I can go further then I would be able to test how good Tualatin's are. So far haven't notice any instability on my rig yet
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guys i know that the asus p4p800 series is a very good mobo for ocing..does the letters behind the series matter? like for example p4p800x?
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What is the max vcore can a prescott handle? My motherboard support up to 1.6v but a little bit scared to go above 1.5v....please advice thnx
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well prescott is already kinda hot processor itself... increasing the vcore...would make it bake ...lol whats your current temp anyway ?
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max is 50 under full load at current settings 1.43v for vcore.
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I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!...
but hell shitt... i can't get anything further 240 fsb...
meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ...

aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem..
but till now... still no solution... sigh~``...

anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd...
jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz
SIAW!!!!!!!!!!!

and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla....

Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!!
SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz..
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 6 2005, 02:20 PM)
What is the max vcore can a prescott handle? My motherboard support up to 1.6v but a little bit scared to go above 1.5v....please advice thnx
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If you have a proper cooling it shouldn't be a problem. For Stock HSF, 1.5-1.525v is the safest.. smile.gif

I normally pump up to 1.525v on stock HSF..
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM)
I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!...
but hell shitt...  i can't get anything further 240 fsb...
meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ...

aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem..
but till now... still no solution... sigh~``...

anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd...
jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz
SIAW!!!!!!!!!!!

and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla....

Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!!
SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz..
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How's your RAM? Haven't tried lower divider or loose timing? unsure.gif

And how's your vcore like? Your clockspeed fluctuates?
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM)
I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!...
but hell shitt...  i can't get anything further 240 fsb...
meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ...

aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem..
but till now... still no solution... sigh~``...

anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd...
jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz
SIAW!!!!!!!!!!!

and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla....

Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!!
SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz..
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wow man...i think your hyper 48 can't handle anymore heat if u oc till 4.0ghz..hohoho...i already use hyper48 before...its good at idle but not too good when full load...well good luck man. biggrin.gif




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CoolerMaster Hyper 48 [Low:31C,36C | High:38C,70C]


Is that a 70C temp I see in your siggy. I dont think you can reach 4Ghz on that temp....maybe you can change to watercooling to hit your 4Ghz dream smile.gif

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QUOTE(c9 @ Dec 8 2005, 08:51 AM)
How's your RAM? Haven't tried lower divider or loose timing? unsure.gif

And how's your vcore like? Your clockspeed fluctuates?
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i got put devider for my ram & loosen off all the timings when i oc my cpu...
but shouldn't be the rams that cause the limitation...
as last night till now i'm running at 250mhz ddr500 2.5-3-3-5 PAT and test stable.

as for vcore.. , i've tried increase the vcore... it seems didn't works though..
at 3.6ghz 240 fsb, i'm 2 prime stable at 1.5v ....
got once when i'm madddd~ ... when ocing fsb 255 , keep upping my vcore till 1.65v .. doh.gif
but still.. it didn't works... , as keep on fluctuating...
sigh..~.. so sad...`

QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Dec 8 2005, 12:18 PM)
wow man...i think your hyper 48 can't handle anymore heat if u oc till 4.0ghz..hohoho...i already use hyper48 before...its good at idle but not too good when full load...well good luck man. biggrin.gif
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hmm... if cooling it's the problem... how would the thermal cause the fluctuations of the frequency? ...
hmm... when i upping fsb above 240 , the full load temp. is 70c .
but prescott can handles safe temperature range till 80c right?
and again.. , is it possible that thermal causing the fluctuations?
i never heard intel cpu got this feature.
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:22 PM)
i got put devider for my ram & loosen off all the timings when i oc my cpu...
but shouldn't be the rams that cause the limitation...
as last night till now i'm running at 250mhz ddr500 2.5-3-3-5 PAT and test stable.

as for vcore.. , i've tried increase the vcore... it seems didn't works though..
at 3.6ghz 240 fsb, i'm 2 prime stable at 1.5v ....
got once when i'm madddd~ ... when ocing fsb 255 , keep upping my vcore till 1.65v .. doh.gif
but still.. it didn't works... , as keep on fluctuating...
sigh..~..  so sad...`
hmm...  if cooling it's the problem...  how would the thermal cause the fluctuations of the frequency? ...
hmm... when i upping fsb above 240 , the full load temp. is 70c .
but prescott can handles safe temperature range till 80c right?
and again.. , is it possible that thermal causing the fluctuations?
i never heard intel cpu got this feature.
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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Dec 8 2005, 05:34 PM)
wah using KVR ram Overclock untill 500mhz.. gang !!  thumbup.gif
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neh...`.. nothing great..`
i remember got one forumer hit 270mhz ddr540 with his kvr dt-d43....`wub.gif
now that's amazing for a value rams to hit 270mhz ddr540 ...
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:22 PM)
hmm...  if cooling it's the problem...  how would the thermal cause the fluctuations of the frequency? ...
hmm... when i upping fsb above 240 , the full load temp. is 70c .
but prescott can handles safe temperature range till 80c right?
and again.. , is it possible that thermal causing the fluctuations?
i never heard intel cpu got this feature.
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According to the P4 90n datasheet, a 89w P4 (i.e 2.4A like mine) have a maximum Tc of
69C (Tc=the IHS temperature). Get the temperature close to that and thermal throttling will execute. Here are some power ratings and the max Tc.

90W = 69.4C
92W = 70C
94W = 70.6C
96W = 71.1C
98W = 71.7C
100W = 72.3C

But do remember that if you OC your P4 to a higher power ratings, it will still follow its original default max Tc. This is what I can find in the P4 datasheet. Hope people benefit from this. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 06:10 PM)
neh...`.. nothing great..`
i remember got one forumer hit 270mhz ddr540 with his kvr dt-d43....`wub.gif
now that's amazing for a value rams to hit 270mhz ddr540 ...
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SUPER GANG!! not like my sux corsiar VS ram.. vmad.gif add another 5mhz also can't .. system will not stable mad.gif
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM)
I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!...
but hell shitt...  i can't get anything further 240 fsb...
meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ...

aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem..
but till now... still no solution... sigh~``...

anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd...
jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz
SIAW!!!!!!!!!!!

and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla....

Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!!
SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz..
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Whats your PCI-E frequency when u hit 240MHZ? Mine can hit 125MHZ when i go to 250MHZ FSB even though i lock it in Bios. Oh have u try increase your Northbridge voltage? Try 1.7V, most ppl can go over 250MHZ with this voltage, Vcore dont go over 1.55, unless u have better cooling. I am using the same HSF like yours, but whats your mobo?
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 06:10 PM)
neh...`.. nothing great..`
i remember got one forumer hit 270mhz ddr540 with his kvr dt-d43....`wub.gif
now that's amazing for a value rams to hit 270mhz ddr540 ...
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Ask Bwan himself, he did a 306Mhz FSB max with his d43 single stick last time....crazy~~

Dual channel I forgot his speed already, all at 3-4-4-8 BT version
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 9 2005, 02:15 AM)
According to the P4 90n datasheet, a 89w P4 (i.e 2.4A like mine) have a maximum Tc of   
69C (Tc=the IHS temperature). Get the temperature close to that and thermal throttling will execute. Here are some power ratings and the max Tc.

90W = 69.4C
92W = 70C
94W = 70.6C
96W = 71.1C
98W = 71.7C
100W = 72.3C

But do remember that if you OC your P4 to a higher power ratings, it will still follow its original default max Tc. This is what I can find in the P4 datasheet. Hope people benefit from this. thumbup.gif
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it seems my max Tc is around 71-72c ..
but i did "disabled" the Thermal Control in the bios... as shut down the TM1 ..

QUOTE(tong1774 @ Dec 9 2005, 11:36 AM)
Whats your PCI-E frequency when u hit 240MHZ? Mine can hit 125MHZ when i go to 250MHZ FSB even though i lock it in Bios. Oh have u try increase your Northbridge voltage? Try 1.7V, most ppl can go over 250MHZ with this voltage, Vcore dont go over 1.55, unless u have better cooling. I am using the same HSF like yours, but whats your mobo?
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hmm.. i'm using AGP mobo.. tongue.gif
Asus P5P800 .. hybrid mobo... , lga775 socket, ddr400, agp .... lolzz
is vagp same as northbridge voltage?
wondering will wc let it hit 4ghz...``

QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 9 2005, 06:24 PM)
Ask Bwan himself, he did a 306Mhz FSB max with his d43 single stick last time....crazy~~

Dual channel I forgot his speed already, all at 3-4-4-8 BT version
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uh-oh , 306mhz ddr612 .... that must be in dfi mobo..` wub.gif

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i still not sure what leads to the frequency fluctuation..,
either thermal/heat or the mobo 3 phase pwm ... or ... ?

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 9 2005, 07:17 PM)
it seems my max Tc is around 71-72c ..
but i did "disabled" the Thermal Control in the bios... as shut down the TM1 ..
A quote from the P4 90nm datasheet:

"The duty cycle for the TCC, when activated by the Thermal Monitor, is factory configured and cannot be modified. The Thermal Monitor does not require any additional hardware, software, drivers or interrupt handling routines."

I believe when you disable the TM1 in bios, you are acctually disabling the motherboard own protection system but the cpu protection system is funtioning on its own.
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 9 2005, 07:17 PM)
it seems my max Tc is around 71-72c ..
but i did "disabled" the Thermal Control in the bios... as shut down the TM1 ..
hmm.. i'm using AGP mobo.. tongue.gif
Asus P5P800 .. hybrid mobo... , lga775 socket, ddr400, agp .... lolzz
is vagp same as northbridge voltage?
wondering will wc let it hit 4ghz...``
uh-oh , 306mhz ddr612 .... that must be in dfi mobo..` wub.gif

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i still not sure what leads to the frequency fluctuation..,
either thermal/heat or the mobo 3 phase pwm ... or ... ?
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Oh not 915/925 chipset? Then u are save, just lock the PCI/AGP then u will be safe.
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i have a P4 2.26Ghz Northwood (FSB 533), which i'm trying to overclock beyong 2.6ghz.

i'm too chicken to play with the overclocking settings in my bios (mobo=Gigabyte 8IK1100 875P), but gigabyte provides a software called Easytune which allows software overclocking within windows. Using that, everytime i try to get beyond 2.6ghz (increased my system bus from 133mhz to 155mhz), my pc just restarts by itself.

I've taken the risk and bumped up the voltage of my vcore from 1.5000v to 1.5500v. Dare not go higher than that with my crappy CM Aero 4. But i still can't get past the 2.6ghz barrier.

I heard that my chip can only achieve the max frequency of 2.6ghz coz that's the max internal clock that it could handle. Is that true?

P/S: I've no idea what i just said just now. tongue.gif
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yeah... i'm curious of what's internal clock ??????????????
mine shows internal clock 4ghz...``
is it the internal clock limitation????
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mine shows internal clock 4ghz...``
is it the internal clock limitation????
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 6 2005, 02:20 PM)
What is the max vcore can a prescott handle? My motherboard support up to 1.6v but a little bit scared to go above 1.5v....please advice thnx
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In most cases, the prescott will do well with stock voltages. it's clockspeed will scale high even on stock voltages. The main problem is to get good hsf to 'remove' that massive amount of heat.

QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 8 2005, 03:25 AM)
max is 50 under full load at current settings 1.43v for vcore.
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From ur sig, ur running on WC. it should cope with the emissive heat well. It performs as well or closed to any high End air coolers


QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM)
I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!...
but hell shitt...  i can't get anything further 240 fsb...
meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ...

aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem..
but till now... still no solution... sigh~``...

anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd...
jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz
SIAW!!!!!!!!!!!

and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla....

Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!!
SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz..
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Ur cpu is going thru thermal throttling. Eventhough u've turned off the thermal control in the bios, it is the ThermalControl embedded in the chip itself that is controlling the throttling, to keep the CPU's temperature in a safe range by reducing the frequency

4ghz?probably 3.8ghz is a more realistic approach.U need a good WC setup or a Super high End HSF. The hyper48 isn't good enof.

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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 10 2005, 12:25 PM)
i have a P4 2.26Ghz Northwood (FSB 533), which i'm trying to overclock beyong 2.6ghz.

i'm too chicken to play with the overclocking settings in my bios (mobo=Gigabyte 8IK1100 875P), but gigabyte provides a software called Easytune which allows software overclocking within windows. Using that, everytime i try to get beyond 2.6ghz (increased my system bus from 133mhz to 155mhz), my pc just restarts by itself.

I've taken the risk and bumped up the voltage of my vcore from 1.5000v to 1.5500v. Dare not go higher than that with my crappy CM Aero 4. But i still can't get past the 2.6ghz barrier.

I heard that my chip can only achieve the max frequency of 2.6ghz coz that's the max internal clock that it could handle. Is that true?

P/S: I've no idea what i just said just now.  tongue.gif
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Ur giga mobo is a decent overclocker. All u need is to get rid of the Aero4 and get a better HSF. OS based overclocking utility is rubbish. The good ole Bios provides better tweaking manipulation. Probably, ur cpu would do around 2.8ghz-3.2ghz with a high end HSF, also, u need to test and find the sweet spot.

QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 10 2005, 05:22 PM)
yeah...  i'm curious of what's internal clock ??????????????
mine shows internal clock 4ghz...``
is it the internal clock limitation????
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I'm not sure what u mean by 'internal clock', Cpu Speed u mean? The best way to check if it's throttling is to run superPI. There's a stage where u'll get uber slow calculation time.

To monitor the throttling activity, try downloading a program call 'ThrottleWatch'. Run some stress test eg; Prime95 with ThrottleWatch and u'll see whether the cpu is undergoing any throttling

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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Dec 10 2005, 11:51 AM)
Oh not 915/925 chipset? Then u are save, just lock the PCI/AGP then u will be safe.
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If i'm not mistaken, he's on the adapted i865pe LGA based mobo
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 20 2005, 11:12 PM)
Ur giga mobo is a decent overclocker. All u need is to get rid of the Aero4 and get a better HSF. OS based overclocking utility is rubbish. The good ole Bios provides better tweaking manipulation. Probably, ur cpu would do around 2.8ghz-3.2ghz with a high end HSF, also, u need to test and find the sweet spot.
I'm not sure what u mean by 'internal clock', Cpu Speed u mean? The best way to check if it's throttling is to run superPI. There's a stage where u'll get uber slow calculation time.
that 2.26Ghz 533fsb northwood really can hit 2.8 to 3.2?.. blink.gif
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 21 2005, 12:42 AM)
that 2.26Ghz 533fsb northwood really can hit 2.8 to 3.2?.. blink.gif
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yeah...i was wondering that myself. I couldn't even get it to go beyond 2.6ghz and he says it can go all the way to 3.2? blink.gif is it on air cooling or water cooling?

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I'm juz qouting the range of overclocking ability. of course,with superb cooling like WC, u can push the chip further
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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 21 2005, 02:30 AM)
yeah...i was wondering that myself. I couldn't even get it to go beyond 2.6ghz and he says it can go all the way to 3.2?  blink.gif  is it on air cooling or water cooling?

if it can really hit 3.2, then  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
push ur Vcore summore to surpass the 2.6 barrier..
here is mine b4 with 2.0Ghz northwood with stock heatsink..
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 21 2005, 02:50 AM)
I'm juz qouting the range of overclocking ability. of course,with superb cooling like WC, u can push the chip further
last time my 2.0@2.8Ghz load temp is about 58 degree.. let say if i had a wc sytem attact there and the temp drop around 5 degree, will it go any higher?.. unsure.gif bcoz after dat i've push the vcore to the max, the only stable is at 2.8.. cant go any higher.. sad.gif
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my rig's is my sig there..i heard tat ppl say intel mobo can oc..but i c the genclock support for intel mobo..mean i can oc izit?? blush.gif noobie here..
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QUOTE(siauann @ Dec 21 2005, 10:39 PM)
my rig's is my sig there..i heard tat ppl say intel mobo can oc..but i c the genclock support for intel mobo..mean i can oc izit??  blush.gif  noobie here..
i tot everything was locked in intel mobo?.. huh.gif

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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 21 2005, 02:30 AM)
yeah...i was wondering that myself. I couldn't even get it to go beyond 2.6ghz and he says it can go all the way to 3.2?  blink.gif  is it on air cooling or water cooling?

if it can really hit 3.2, then  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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kucing is rite, software in OS for OC sux

most probably u just did it in bios, set the ram ratio to 1:1 then start jacked up the fsb by 5-10mhz, if cant get into windows try to up vcore

i believe the restart is cause by the ram setting, since u r not on 1:1 setting, it turns to be the stone tht block the OC

i trust u can hit over 3ghz if u fine tuning inside bios
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 21 2005, 03:53 PM)
push ur Vcore summore to surpass the 2.6 barrier..
here is mine b4 with 2.0Ghz northwood with stock heatsink..
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i see your voltage was at 1.68v. i dun even dare to go beyond 1.6v (my default was 1.5) sweat.gif

QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Dec 22 2005, 01:01 AM)
kucing is rite, software in OS for OC sux

most probably u just did it in bios, set the ram ratio to 1:1 then start jacked up the fsb by 5-10mhz, if cant get into windows try to up vcore

i believe the restart is cause by the ram setting, since u r not on 1:1 setting, it turns to be the stone tht block the OC

i trust u can hit over 3ghz if u fine tuning inside bios
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so u think i should just dump the software OC and meddle with the bios instead?
the problem is i do not know the limit of my chip. if overclocked too much, later become charcoal. smile.gif

btw, the easytune software from gigabyte also overclocks the PCI, AGP, RAM frequencies as well (do not know 1f it's 1:1 for the ram or not), but i managed to run my RAM from 333 to 400 @ 2.6ghz.
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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 22 2005, 12:54 PM)
btw, the easytune software from gigabyte also overclocks the PCI, AGP, RAM [/COLOR]frequencies as well (do not know 1f it's 1:1 for the ram or not), but i managed to run my RAM from 333 to 400 @ 2.6ghz.
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you should lock your agp and pci to get a higher overclock. pci bus is very sensitive to high overclock. your hard disk runs from pci bus. you might get data lost at high pci frequency. [COLOR=red]overclock using your bios and lock your pci and agp. normally you will only be able to lock agp bus since pci is derived from 1/2 agp bus.
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 22 2005, 12:51 AM)
i tot everything was locked in intel mobo?.. huh.gif
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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 22 2005, 12:54 PM)
i see your voltage was at 1.68v. i dun even dare to go beyond 1.6v (my default was 1.5)  sweat.gif
so u think i should just dump the software OC and meddle with the bios instead?
the problem is i do not know the limit of my chip. if overclocked too much, later become charcoal. smile.gif

btw, the easytune software from gigabyte also overclocks the PCI, AGP, RAM frequencies as well (do not know 1f it's 1:1 for the ram or not), but i managed to run my RAM from 333 to 400 @ 2.6ghz.
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yup just dump the software if u r really goin into OC, n u should read from start n understand everything, only thing i can tell u for safe OC is: -

BE PATIENT, learn everything from start tongue.gif
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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 22 2005, 12:54 PM)
i see your voltage was at 1.68v. i dun even dare to go beyond 1.6v (my default was 1.5)  sweat.gif
so u think i should just dump the software OC and meddle with the bios instead?
the problem is i do not know the limit of my chip. if overclocked too much, later become charcoal. smile.gif
then no need to go beyond 2.6Ghz la bro.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 22 2005, 12:54 PM)
btw, the easytune software from gigabyte also overclocks the PCI, AGP, RAM frequencies as well (do not know 1f it's 1:1 for the ram or not), but i managed to run my RAM from 333 to 400 @ 2.6ghz.
learn to use the bios setting dude.. much more fun.. thumbup.gif there is lot of awesome guidance here..

QUOTE(siauann @ Dec 22 2005, 06:15 PM)
yeah..but hw come i c the website got intel mobo feature inside for the clockgen or the genclock wateva..hehe..means stil i cant use it>?
blink.gif thanx for ur info.. i dunno about this b4.. neway how bout u try to use it and show the result here.. let see how intel's mobo going.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Dec 22 2005, 07:16 PM)
yup just dump the software if u r really goin into OC, n u should read from start n understand everything, only thing i can tell u for safe OC is: -

BE PATIENT, learn everything from start tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 22 2005, 02:14 PM)
you should lock your agp and pci to get a higher overclock. pci bus is very sensitive to high overclock. your hard disk runs from pci bus. you might get data lost at high pci frequency. overclock using your bios and lock your pci and agp. normally you will only be able to lock agp bus since pci is derived from 1/2 agp bus.
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hi,im using 630 3.0 processor currently using 915chipet mobo..

any COOLer to recommend? thinking of buying Artic cooling
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 22 2005, 11:50 PM)
hi,im using 630 3.0 processor currently using 915chipet mobo..

any  COOLer to recommend? thinking of buying Artic cooling
i think its depend to ur taste.. either performance or the design.. smile.gif by the way what is ur current temp for idle n load?..

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Let's see, ur looking for some high performers?

Here are some recommendations:

Scythe NINJA , TT Big Typhoon, TR Si 120.

AFAIK, the Ninja is the best..period.

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which 1 got quite n great performance??


current tempr with stockfan will increase to 55c' from 45' ..sometimes itlll restart automatically.

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QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 24 2005, 03:19 PM)
which 1 got quite n great performance??
current tempr with stockfan will increase to 55c' from 45' ..sometimes itlll restart automatically.

@kucingfight : congrats man,u now in elite group ady
Scythe Ninja pair with 120*120mm silence fan.. thumbup.gif

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where can i buy Scythe Ninja ??how much??
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 24 2005, 03:35 PM)
where can i buy Scythe Ninja ??how much??
U can buy it frm dinster bulk here
neway better u check it first either it fit in ur casing or not.. this heatsink quite huge.. sweat.gif
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thankx anyway

btw is it freezer 7 good?my fren using freezer 64,it is really quite n cool
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uhmm i think it can keep the proc cool, but not into hardcore OC
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yea...i have stopped OC from my M-barton,hehe

Now using 3.0 Em64T not bad la
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hi guys, im noob at overclocking, pls help me.

im using P4 2.4 B, 512kb L2 cache.
i heard that this proc max clock speed is 3Ghz izzit true??

last time i was able to overclock my proc from 133 to 166, that is 2988Mhz. it was stable and can complete several benchmark. i was using 512MB apacer DDR RAM running at 2-3-3-7 timing. PCI & AGP frequency locked.

but after i add another 512MB RAM to my system, my PC cant OC even to 145 FSB, dunno why, can someone tell me??


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the ram u added is apacer?
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 25 2005, 06:03 PM)
yea...i have stopped OC from my M-barton,hehe

Now using 3.0 Em64T not bad la
then freezer7 is still ok.. neway u can attach dual fan for them for increase the performance(maybe someday u wanna oc ur 3.0).. i luv their design actually..

QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Dec 25 2005, 11:18 PM)
hi guys, im noob at overclocking, pls help me.

im using P4 2.4 B, 512kb L2 cache.
i heard that this proc max clock speed is 3Ghz izzit true??

last time i was able to overclock my proc from 133 to 166, that is 2988Mhz. it was stable and can complete several benchmark. i was using 512MB apacer DDR RAM running at 2-3-3-7 timing. PCI & AGP frequency locked.

but after i add another 512MB RAM to my system, my PC cant OC even to 145 FSB, dunno why, can someone tell me??
what is the mobo u use?.. r u running in dual channel mode?.. both ram is identical(same brand and chips)?..

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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 26 2005, 07:29 PM)
what is the mobo u use?.. r u running in dual channel mode?.. both ram is identical(same brand and chips)?..


my mobo is ASUS P4P800-X i865PE

my PSU is POWER LOGIC ATRIX 500T, currently using 6800LE (dunno my PC enough power or not, but last time using cheapo PSU & 9600XT able to OC to 2988Mhz)

my RAM is APACER PC3200 (is cheapo RAM, bought at different time but should be same model), but due to my FSB is 133, so is running at PC2700 speed on dual channel.

>>do u think that maybe is my RAM not able to run on dual channel??

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QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Dec 27 2005, 12:20 AM)
my mobo is ASUS P4P800-X i865PE

my PSU is POWER LOGIC ATRIX 500T, currently using 6800LE (dunno my PC enough power or not, but last time using cheapo PSU & 9600XT able to OC to 2988Mhz)

my RAM is APACER PC3200 (is cheapo RAM, bought at different time but should be same model), but due to my FSB is 133, so is running at PC2700 speed on dual channel.

>>do u think that maybe is my RAM not able to run on dual channel??
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i finally dumped my O/C software and dived straight into my bios.

managed to only bump up to 160 b4 windows gave me the finger. smile.gif

tried 165 @ 1.6v but windows didn't like it.

so now it's at 160 @ 1.6v, which is around 2.73ghz (up from 2.26. ori vcore=1.5v), which isn't much. sad.gif It makes very little difference from my software OC)

then there's another problem. after i did the oc, i can't access my device manager. neither could i access my network connections (my LAN icon in my taskbar went MIA), but i still have internet connection.

RAM running at 400 (ori=333). AGP & PCI are locked.

also, after i o/c, windows asked me to re-activiate windows (i use ori) coz there was a significant hardware change. blink.gif though reactivating it was no problem.

where did i go wrong?



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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Dec 27 2005, 02:02 PM)
i finally dumped my O/C software and dived straight into my bios.

managed to only bump up to 160 b4 windows gave me the finger. smile.gif

tried 165 @ 1.6v but windows didn't like it.

so now it's at 160 @ 1.6v, which is around 2.73ghz (up from 2.26. ori vcore=1.5v), which isn't much. sad.gif It makes very little difference from my software OC)

then there's another problem. after i did the oc, i can't access my device manager. neither could i access my network connections (my LAN icon in my taskbar went MIA), but i still have internet connection.

RAM running at 400 (ori=333). AGP & PCI are locked.

also, after i o/c, windows asked me to re-activiate windows (i use ori) coz there was a significant hardware change.  blink.gif  though reactivating it was no problem.

where did i go wrong?
in my opinion, it is still unstable for ur procs at that speed(2.73Ghz @ 1.6Vcore), and make whole ur system including the OS unstable.. maybe the 2.6Ghz is the wall already.. for the active connection at ur taskbar, have u check the checkbox at the connection properties("show icon in the notification area when connected") either it was checked or not?..
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 27 2005, 11:34 PM)
in my opinion, it is still unstable for ur procs at that speed(2.73Ghz @ 1.6Vcore), and make whole ur system including the OS unstable.. maybe the 2.6Ghz is the wall already.. for the active connection at ur taskbar, have u check the checkbox at the connection properties("show icon in the notification area when connected") either it was checked or not?..
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the icon was there b4 i o/c. now when i access my device manager or network connections property, it's empty. blink.gif i downclock back to my default speed, but it's still empty. cry.gif

anyways, i am running at 2.73Ghz @ 1.5875Vcore now and it's quite stable. but i have got to solve the above problems now. sad.gif
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want to ask that what is the maximum voltage that my processor can take.
my processor is P4 2.4 B 533mhz ,512kb L2
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hello expert guyz.....can P4 LGA775 506 2.66GHz /1MB/533 overclock? BTW im using AS8-V mobo and yes it uGURU.....but what max i can go? Any ex-user/current-user for thos spec here?.... Corsair VS512MB 2.5 PC3200 yep that its....TQ
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QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Dec 29 2005, 04:50 PM)
want to ask that what is the maximum voltage that my processor can take.
my processor is P4 2.4 B 533mhz ,512kb L2
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Have u tried it for your self?
Have you read any of the reviews on P4 Presscotts Overclocking Results (speed/temp)

For starters maybe u can try raise .05v or .10v see which is available...then watch carefully the temp readings...if u cant read the temp readings...try and touch ur CPU Cooler...if hot as hell u might consider getting a better cooler b4 starting to raise the vcore....

QUOTE(RiCHBoyZ @ Dec 29 2005, 04:58 PM)
hello expert guyz.....can P4 LGA775 506 2.66GHz /1MB/533 overclock? BTW im using AS8-V mobo and yes it uGURU.....but what max i can go? Any ex-user/current-user for thos spec here?.... Corsair VS512MB 2.5 PC3200 yep that its....TQ
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I dun have the current spec...

but when u asked "can P4 LGA775 506 2.66GHz /1MB/533 overclock?" that interest me....coz all processors can be run above their rated spec....is a matter of how high it can run....in your case is better you try first then ask about the problem of what you are gettin from overclocking....

"Whats the max i can go?" question is already too much and why not try to ask question like "I've achieve the max, now what?" thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Dec 29 2005, 07:28 PM)
Have u tried it for your self?
Have you read any of the reviews on P4 Presscotts Overclocking Results (speed/temp)

For starters maybe u can try raise .05v or .10v see which is available...then watch carefully the temp readings...if u cant read the temp readings...try and touch ur CPU Cooler...if hot as hell u might consider getting a better cooler b4 starting to raise the vcore....


mine is northwood, current voltage is 1.584V, is it save to go beyond 1.6V?
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QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Dec 29 2005, 11:23 PM)
mine is northwood, current voltage is 1.584V, is it save to go beyond 1.6V?
it is safe for benchmarking/overclocking satisfaction.. not for 24/7 use.. watch out ur temperature for not going ~60degree~
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QUOTE(RiCHBoyZ @ Dec 29 2005, 04:58 PM)
hello expert guyz.....can P4 LGA775 506 2.66GHz /1MB/533 overclock? BTW im using AS8-V mobo and yes it uGURU.....but what max i can go? Any ex-user/current-user for thos spec here?.... Corsair VS512MB 2.5 PC3200 yep that its....TQ
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hello fren,

sudah overclock ka!! biggrin.gif
warranty VOID!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

i did 4Ghz with tat board..15 x 267mhz.

ur 2.66ghz with 20 x 133mhz.

its all on ur proc how far can go lo..
fsb 200mhz sudah 4Ghz lo.

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QUOTE(tone @ Dec 31 2005, 01:49 AM)
hello fren,

sudah overclock ka!! biggrin.gif
warranty VOID!! biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

i did 4Ghz with tat board..15 x 267mhz.

ur 2.66ghz with 20 x 133mhz.

its all on ur proc how far can go lo..
fsb 200mhz sudah 4Ghz lo.
OC didnt void the warranty.. thumbup.gif Unless u burn it.. laugh.gif What is the current temperature for that speed?..
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 31 2005, 01:53 AM)
OC didnt void the warranty.. thumbup.gif Unless u burn it.. laugh.gif What is the current temperature for that speed?..
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ya i know..but personal warranty void cos the board is mine previously..i sold it to him few days ago.. biggrin.gif
temp was good..idle at 40ish..load at 50ish..
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QUOTE(tone @ Dec 31 2005, 12:33 PM)
ya i know..but personal warranty void cos the board is mine previously..i sold it to him few days ago.. biggrin.gif
temp was good..idle at 40ish..load at 50ish..
owh i c.. doh.gif but the temp look good still.. maybe he can add more juice to burn it.. rolleyes.gif
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can any one tell me which software is best for monitor the system temp?
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can any one tell me which software is best for monitor the system temp?
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Hello OC senpai's,

Im using 2.8 Ghz ESample codename cranford,mobo is Giga 8ipe775/g 865 chipset,512x2 dual channel kingston KVR ddr333 winbond chip,psu just CM extereme power 430watt...temp idle to load is 44-54c...thinking of oc to 3.2 with stock fan is it safe?Water cooling vs air cooling?Water is better rite?Coz a sycthe ninja is around rm2++ i've got and offer from a fren selling his wc set(CPU,GPU,Northbridge) for rm300.Plz advice thnx all

PLz be gentle im a newbie ere hehehe
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QUOTE(styloe @ Jan 1 2006, 06:48 PM)
Hello OC senpai's,

Im using 2.8 Ghz ESample codename cranford,mobo is Giga 8ipe775/g 865 chipset,512x2 dual channel kingston KVR ddr333 winbond chip,psu just CM extereme power 430watt...temp idle to load is 44-54c...thinking of oc to 3.2 with stock fan is it safe?Water cooling vs air cooling?Water is better rite?Coz a sycthe ninja is around rm2++ i've got and offer from a fren selling his wc set(CPU,GPU,Northbridge) for rm300.Plz advice thnx all

PLz be gentle im a newbie ere hehehe
someone bulking the ninja for RM 17+ only.. i dun know it still open for order or not.. why not u try to push ur procs to 3.2 n see what is the temp 1st?.. for the wc kits perhaps u can specify the accessories come with, for dat RM 300.. the brand/model for them i mean.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Jan 1 2006, 07:53 PM)
someone bulking the ninja for RM 17+ only.. i dun know it still open for order or not.. why not u try to push ur procs to 3.2 n see what is the temp 1st?.. for the wc kits perhaps u can specify the accessories come with, for dat RM 300.. the brand/model for them i mean.. smile.gif
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Well its seems a failure i cant boot now..theres a beeping sound very fast ones..so where did i do wrong...ermmm cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(songhan89 @ Jan 1 2006, 03:21 PM)
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wah! soo many sifu help notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
but which one should i take sweat.gif tongue.gif
btw i'm using intel proc
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Jan 1 2006, 11:18 PM)
wah! soo many sifu help notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
but which one should i take sweat.gif  tongue.gif
btw i'm using intel proc
for me MBM 5 will be the better choice.. but different people diff taste.. try them out n picks one that best suite to u.. smile.gif
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want to ask that every CPU hv maximum clock speed that can operate?? over the clock speed will burn the CPU ???
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QUOTE(styloe @ Jan 1 2006, 09:44 PM)
Well its seems a failure i cant boot now..theres a beeping sound very fast ones..so where did i do wrong...ermmm  cry.gif  cry.gif
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i'm using the same processor as u...i think i'm reaching the processor limit....3.4 is the max clock i can get..beyond that...it wont boot...3.5 still can boot..but not stable...i dont know actually why..i think maybe the processor limit..also same thing happen when i increase my fsb and raise my multiplier..still wont boot beyond 3.4...if u all sifoo know why please tell me...i'm a newbie too... smile.gif
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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 2 2006, 12:41 AM)
i'm using the same processor as u...i think i'm reaching the processor limit....3.4 is the max clock i can get..beyond that...it wont boot...3.5 still can boot..but not stable...i dont know actually why..i think maybe the processor limit..also same thing happen when i increase my fsb and raise my multiplier..still wont boot beyond 3.4...if u all sifoo know why please tell me...i'm a newbie too... smile.gif
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ur specs:

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Pentium 4 Prescott (LGA775) 2.8ghz(ES)@3.4ghz
Thermalright XP-120 + DeltaTriblade 3400rpm [idle=37,load=50]
DFI Lanparty UT i915P T-12 >>>915 chipset (no good for overclocking)
Sapphire ATI Radeon X800GT 256 GDDR3 oc[560core/562memory]
Kingston Hynix BT-J/D43 512 x 2 |2.5/3/3/6|
Western Digital 80gig SATA
Atrix Powerlogic Extreme Power 500T

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ya i know..but personal warranty void cos the board is mine previously..i sold it to him few days ago.. biggrin.gif
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Well its seems a failure i cant boot now..theres a beeping sound very fast ones..so where did i do wrong...ermmm  cry.gif  cry.gif
clear the cmos then.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(tone @ Jan 2 2006, 12:52 AM)
ur specs:

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Pentium 4 Prescott (LGA775) 2.8ghz(ES)@3.4ghz
Thermalright XP-120 + DeltaTriblade 3400rpm [idle=37,load=50]
DFI Lanparty UT i915P T-12 >>>915 chipset (no good for overclocking)
Sapphire ATI Radeon X800GT 256 GDDR3 oc[560core/562memory]
Kingston Hynix BT-J/D43 512 x 2 |2.5/3/3/6|
Western Digital 80gig SATA
Atrix Powerlogic Extreme Power 500T
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U hit 3.4 i just try to oc 3.2 then caput cannot boot edi haiya 3.0 was stable...ermm wonder y?did u increase the voltage?Newbie also ma... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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hi all, this one not world record rite?
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Bro is this ur pc? coz my fren claim that he helped you overclock it.. just need some comfirmation..

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How come ES processor cant OC much than the normal ones?
I tot ES is better!Can anyone tell me with mobo can support ES 775 proc tat have PCI-E gpu?Best for OC also stable?apreciate it

MY RIG
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nizam wat spec ur using?care to share?
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I have a Intel P4 630
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Also,i'm using a I-cute casing with 450w PSU.
MY mobo is the MSI PM8MV-2
Can I still oc the CPU abit more?
I wanna get the most out of it..
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QUOTE(styloe @ Jan 3 2006, 07:49 AM)
How come ES processor cant OC much than the normal ones?
I tot ES is better!Can anyone tell me with mobo can support ES 775 proc tat have PCI-E gpu?Best for OC also stable?apreciate it

MY RIG
P4 2.8 ES 775 + stok HSF n fan
Gigabyte 8IPE775/G
512x2 Kingston KVR DDR333@400 winbond chips

nizam wat spec ur using?care to share?
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ES is a short form of an engineering sample for those who have no idea what it means. Basically the difference between ES and the retail is just simply the capability to play with the multipliers. Or in other words, the multiplier is not locked, so the more straightforwardly it's for you to optimize your settings. So there will not be any case where "my processor is holding me down, so I can't get the full potential of my TCCD".

ES is better in terms of more GHz doesn't exist in my book, but in terms of optimizing yes indeed. Maybe what you have heard is basically ES is better in terms of optimization of settings.

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Jan 4 2006, 06:25 AM)
ES is a short form of an engineering sample for those who have no idea what it means. Basically the difference between ES and the retail is just simply the capability to play with the multipliers. Or in other words, the multiplier is not locked, so the more straightforwardly it's for you to optimize your settings. So there will not be any case where "my processor is holding me down, so I can't get the full potential of my TCCD".

ES is better in terms of more GHz doesn't exist in my book, but in terms of optimizing yes indeed. Maybe what you have heard is basically ES is better in terms of optimization of settings.
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Could u be more specific by wat do ya mean by "optimization" there..thnx much appreciate it.sorry to trouble u.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Jan 2 2006, 12:29 AM)
want to ask that every CPU hv maximum clock speed that can operate?? over the clock speed will burn the CPU ???
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yes...same as sex....

some can stand longer but only one shot....
some can a lot of shot but cannot stand long...
some has long but not strong...
some has short and can stand strong...

so answering your question i hope that u understand that NOT even the same batch,steepings,sllicone,wafer,chocolate chip processor can perform the same....it depends on the technique and a whole lotta luck....

Burn CPU....high clock speed don burn the CPU...high voltage does....


QUOTE(XCremator @ Jan 2 2006, 10:50 PM)
Bro is this ur pc? coz my fren claim that he helped you overclock it.. just need some comfirmation..
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hmmm...i wish it was mine....


QUOTE(styloe @ Jan 3 2006, 07:49 AM)
How come ES processor cant OC much than the normal ones?
I tot ES is better!Can anyone tell me with mobo can support ES 775 proc tat have PCI-E gpu?Best for OC also stable?apreciate it

MY RIG
P4 2.8 ES 775 + stok HSF n fan
Gigabyte 8IPE775/G
512x2 Kingston KVR DDR333@400 winbond chips

nizam wat spec ur using?care to share?
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unfortunately we can't(and if there is he wont be reading this post coz there is no reply from him...)..All components performs differently compares to its brothers...

the best way is to learn the technique (again like sex) then see the results for your self.....I dont think you wanna us to see while you 'do it' right....So stick with the technique and ur be safe....

What is the technique u may ask????Well read stickies...

QUOTE(hosty @ Jan 4 2006, 04:59 AM)
I"m newbie anything OC but got ineteested while reading this forum.

I have a Intel P4 630
Prescott
LGA775
Also,i'm using a I-cute casing with 450w PSU.
MY mobo is the MSI PM8MV-2
Can I still oc the CPU abit more?
I wanna get the most out of it..
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can...push the FSB bit by bit...do it in BIOS...untill u cant reboot....then recover by lowering the FSB it down again untill u can pass POST and boot into windows...after that try stability test such as Prime,Super PI,CPU Burn....Try to see if the test failed among ur overclocked FSB/....if fail lower down a little until you can pass around 5 hours of stability testing....

for more info read the stickies at the main Overclocker United page....

QUOTE(styloe @ Jan 4 2006, 08:00 AM)
Sifu,
Could u be more specific by wat do ya mean by "optimization" there..thnx much appreciate it.sorry to trouble u.. sweat.gif
Im still learning ere whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Its how you make the most outta both worlds...(again sex) like if ur short, try not to use doggy technique coz it will make it unreachable....

same as overclocking....

lets say a 3000mhz P4 with 200FSB x 15 multiplier....(imagine that the proc is ES)

then after a lot of testing you found out that your proc works best with a 275 FSB increase....but the proc wont be a stable as the Ram (assume TCCD)....so:

275 x 15 = 4125MHZ (WOW) but remember...ur proc is unable to work as high....Jus say your proc works best at 3500mhz...so you will either drop the multipiler to 12 which gives you 3300mhz or 13 which give you 3575mhz speed...which is 75mhz more clock than u r stable at...but still can be counter by vcore increase....

So its better to have a test on all the components to see which is which needs 'optimization'. The use the ability of the ES to control the Multiplier which is crucial in determinating your result...

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How increase the CPU voltage?


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Thx zth,i've dl Super PI but Burn CPU 1.3 got SH3 and Console.Download which one? blink.gif
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i cant really remember whats the exact name coz now i'm in the office....try googling for CPU Burn-in....

QUOTE(hosty @ Jan 4 2006, 03:00 PM)
One more problem...I dunno how to use Super PI...
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easy...just select how many kilobytes or megabytes of calculation you want to do then just hit ok!...normally for stability ppl usually do test for 32Mb Calculation....


QUOTE(hosty @ Jan 4 2006, 03:33 PM)
My FSB is now 214,my last 2 tries sent my PC Alert hellwire - It seems tat my +12v drop to 2.22!!?? I wonder wat happen - any ideas guyS?
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shut tha damn thing off.....

use Multimeter to test....its better and more or much less accurate...

p/s:

no need to post 3 times next time... laugh.gif

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CPU burn-in...,32mb for stability...and multimeter - Gotcha and thx! thumbup.gif haha ok,i'll make a more proper post nxt time ^^
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CPU burn-in...,32mb for stability...and multimeter - Gotcha and thx! thumbup.gif  haha ok,i'll make a more proper post nxt time ^^
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just say i accidently click 'Add Reply' but you got sumore stuff to ask/say...just hit edit button on the right side of ur post...
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Bro is this ur pc? coz my fren claim that he helped you overclock it.. just need some comfirmation..
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that was not my pc, some japanese did it. I just post as reference.....here the forum link

Ch33r5! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tone @ Jan 2 2006, 01:09 AM)
thermaltake silent tower with 2 fan..1 x suck , 1 x blow..
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tone, i able to OC my P4 506 2.667Ghz to 3GHZ with your Abit AS8-V at standard HSF!!!...CPU at 40C idle!!! biggrin.gif
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that was not my pc, some japanese did it. I just post as reference.....here the forum link

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really crazy...well..they are extreme ppl by the way.... flex.gif
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QUOTE(RiCHBoyZ @ Jan 4 2006, 04:09 PM)
tone, i able to OC my P4 506 2.667Ghz to 3GHZ with your Abit AS8-V at standard HSF!!!...CPU at 40C idle!!! biggrin.gif
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Not my board anymore..its yuor now..hehe..
push more..temp is good!! biggrin.gif
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Hi guys,..

Is it normal for my temp to go from 53C at load to 65C just by openin my winamp visualisation.I just put in artic silver 5 but just using stock HSF.idle at 44C.
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QUOTE(styloe @ Jan 6 2006, 06:37 AM)
Hi guys,..

Is it normal for my temp to go from 53C at load to 65C just by openin my winamp visualisation.I just put in artic silver 5 but just using stock HSF.idle at 44C.
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your temp is normal for prescott...no need to worry..if it reach 70 its quite hot...if your using artic silver 5 it takes about 200 hours to actually "masak" or stable.. smile.gif
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my 2.4c D1 is currently overcloked to 3.2Ghz. ram timing is 2.5-3-3-7 and divider 5:4. my ram is OCZ platinum EL PC3200 rated at 2-2-2-5. my processor is running on stock HSF and just recently i have cleaned the surface of the cpu, so there is no more cooling cream, only pure contact between the cpu and heatsink. on idle, the temperature is 40 while in full load it's 50. so far so good as it is stable and passed all tests.

my question is can i go higher without risking of damage to my cpu. how high can i go with stock HSF. i'm sure i haven't hit the wall yet, but i don't dare to push higher, risking my components.

any advice will be appreciated
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 6 2006, 10:18 AM)
my 2.4c D1 is currently overcloked to 3.2Ghz. ram timing is 2.5-3-3-7 and divider 5:4. my ram is OCZ platinum EL PC3200 rated at 2-2-2-5. my processor is running on stock HSF and just recently i have cleaned the surface of the cpu, so there is no more cooling cream, only pure contact between the cpu and heatsink. on idle, the temperature is 40 while in full load it's 50. so far so good as it is stable and passed all tests.

my question is can i go higher without risking of damage to my cpu. how high can i go with stock HSF. i'm sure i haven't hit the wall yet, but i don't dare to push higher, risking my components.

any advice will be appreciated
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wooo ohmy.gif no thermal grease...i dont know what to say man...just make sure ur keep an eye on your temp...it maybe risky if u dont put some thermal compound...the heat cant flow to heatsink efficiantly if no thermal compound i think blush.gif ...let see what other people think... smile.gif
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when i say 50 celcius on full load, i mean the temperature of the heatsink only. that's where my temperature probe rests. but i don't really know the real temperature of the cpu
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 6 2006, 10:18 AM)
my 2.4c D1 is currently overcloked to 3.2Ghz. ram timing is 2.5-3-3-7 and divider 5:4. my ram is OCZ platinum EL PC3200 rated at 2-2-2-5. my processor is running on stock HSF and just recently i have cleaned the surface of the cpu, so there is no more cooling cream, only pure contact between the cpu and heatsink. on idle, the temperature is 40 while in full load it's 50. so far so good as it is stable and passed all tests.

my question is can i go higher without risking of damage to my cpu. how high can i go with stock HSF. i'm sure i haven't hit the wall yet, but i don't dare to push higher, risking my components.

any advice will be appreciated
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WAH gang!1 thumbup.gif Overclock wit stock HSF .. . . my one 2.6c oc to 3.25.. divider 1:1 ram timing 2.5.3.3.7.. ur one also can reach 3.2Ghz.. may i know what mainboard u using now
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 6 2006, 01:10 PM)
when i say 50 celcius on full load, i mean the temperature of the heatsink only. that's where my temperature probe rests. but i don't really know the real temperature of the cpu
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well...try to use speedfan or MBM5 software..u will know the cpu temp then. smile.gif
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i'm not sure whether this has been posted or not but i bumped into an interesting patent....

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?...RS=PN/6,535,988

does this means that future intel chips would not be overclockable anymore?
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 6 2006, 10:18 AM)
my 2.4c D1 is currently overcloked to 3.2Ghz. ram timing is 2.5-3-3-7 and divider 5:4. my ram is OCZ platinum EL PC3200 rated at 2-2-2-5. my processor is running on stock HSF and just recently i have cleaned the surface of the cpu, so there is no more cooling cream, only pure contact between the cpu and heatsink. on idle, the temperature is 40 while in full load it's 50. so far so good as it is stable and passed all tests.

my question is can i go higher without risking of damage to my cpu. how high can i go with stock HSF. i'm sure i haven't hit the wall yet, but i don't dare to push higher, risking my components.

any advice will be appreciated
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quick get some crappy thermal paste at least!
without anything in between, might cause your temps to go sky high and burn up
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jan 6 2006, 08:22 PM)
quick get some crappy thermal paste at least!
without anything in between, might cause your temps to go sky high and burn up
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yeah.... later u gonna burn ur proc... doh.gif so dangerous..
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jan 6 2006, 08:21 PM)
i'm not sure whether this has been posted or not but i bumped into an interesting patent....

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?...RS=PN/6,535,988

does this means that future intel chips would not be overclockable anymore?
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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Jan 6 2006, 02:30 PM)
WAH gang!1 thumbup.gif  Overclock wit stock HSF .. . . my one 2.6c oc to 3.25.. divider 1:1 ram timing 2.5.3.3.7.. ur one also can reach 3.2Ghz.. may i know what mainboard u using now
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i'm just a little bit worried since my cpu now don't have thermal paste and it's on HSF.
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 7 2006, 08:51 AM)
i'm using ABIT IS7 (pure) with OCZ Platinum EL PC3200. at 1:1 divider and 2.5-3-3-7, i can reach 3Ghz which i think can go a liltle bit higher. at 5:4 divider, i was able to hit 3.2Ghz in just one try, no sweat. and again i think can go higher.

i'm just a little bit worried since my cpu now don't have thermal paste and it's on HSF.
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Jan 1 2006, 07:53 PM)
someone bulking the ninja for RM 17+ only.. i dun know it still open for order or not.. why not u try to push ur procs to 3.2 n see what is the temp 1st?.. for the wc kits perhaps u can specify the accessories come with, for dat RM 300.. the brand/model for them i mean.. smile.gif
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look under assignee...its intel corp...

System for detecting over-clocking uses a reference signal thereafter preventing over-clocking by reducing clock rate

Abstract

An over-clock deterrent mechanism of a chipset which comprises an over-clock detection circuit for detecting over-clocking of a system (processor) clock signal based on comparison of ratio of the system (processor) clock signal which is likely to be over-clocked and a fixed, stable reference clock signal which is highly unlikely to be over-clocked, and an over-clock prevention (thwarting) circuit for deterring such an over-clocking by either disabling operations of a computer system or significantly undermining key operations of a computer system.

Inventors: Poisner; David L. (Folsom, CA)
Assignee: Intel Corporation (Santa Clara, CA)
Appl. No.: 407853
Filed: September 29, 1999

there's a discussion over it here

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Mar/...30326019296.htm

Intel has just stamped their own doomsday.

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jan 7 2006, 04:08 PM)
there's a discussion over it here

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Mar/...30326019296.htm

Intel has just stamped their own doomsday.
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yeah, but i never heard of this kind of news and in my first post i did apologize if thsi was posted before.
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ahh..whatever la...just wait and see...if cant oc anymore...then convert to amd..
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if they really do dat.. they'll lost at least 50% potential buyers(overclockers).. no more Intel OC thread.. smile.gif

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wink.gif All Sifu here,
I am using a Pentium4 531prescott 3.0ghz,
and a MSI 7028 915P Neo2 Platinum with DOT(Dynamic overclocking technology)
well, i have a CoreCenter software,
i am thinking of trying OC my Proc
and my ram is 512 corsair value ramDDR2 533
All i need is just increase the FSB in the corecenter is it?
or should i do in the CMOS?
how should i do?
and 1 more question
do increase vcore void the warranty?if i didnt burnt the proc due to OC sweat.gif
Noob in OC here
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 06:32 PM)
wink.gif All Sifu here,
I am using a Pentium4 531prescott 3.0ghz,
and a MSI 7028 915P Neo2 Platinum with DOT(Dynamic overclocking technology)
well, i have a CoreCenter software,
i am thinking of trying OC my Proc
and my ram is 512 corsair value ramDDR2 533
All i need is just increase the FSB in the corecenter is it?
or should i do in the CMOS?
how should i do?
and 1 more question
do increase vcore void the warranty?if i didnt burnt the proc due to OC sweat.gif
Noob in OC here
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Overclocking no longer makes the performance difference it used to. It will also void your CPU warranty, could cause complete system failure requiring component replacement, and can cause random system instability

from a webpage u recommend me to read..
btw is it really a warranty void if OC? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 06:32 PM)
wink.gif All Sifu here,
I am using a Pentium4 531prescott 3.0ghz,
and a MSI 7028 915P Neo2 Platinum with DOT(Dynamic overclocking technology)
well, i have a CoreCenter software,
i am thinking of trying OC my Proc
and my ram is 512 corsair value ramDDR2 533
All i need is just increase the FSB in the corecenter is it?
or should i do in the CMOS?
how should i do?
and 1 more question
do increase vcore void the warranty?if i didnt burnt the proc due to OC sweat.gif
Noob in OC here
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well..use cmos..dont use software....your ram..what chip did it use?..about the vcore..it depend..sometime to make it stable u need to increase it...but there is a limit..if i'm not mistaken until 1.55..beyond that is danger..u should read more about overclocking using your mobo..it may help. smile.gif
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@nizamextreme
ok thanks for the info
so will OC void the warranty?
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 07:35 PM)
@nizamextreme
ok thanks for the info
so will OC void the warranty?
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u mean once i increase the fsb
then the warranty void already??
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 07:43 PM)
u mean once i increase the fsb
then the warranty void already??
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 07:43 PM)
u mean once i increase the fsb
then the warranty void already??
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when u wanna oc.. d importnat think is always monitor d temp of ur mobo, proc ...ect.. d main point is overheated will causes d proc to hangus sweat.gif
nice software to monitor temp... http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=204 usee at ur owwn risk..


from wat ive noe, warranty will b avoided if u hav burn marks at ur proc(usually due to oc'in) or if some of d proc legs bent...
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wanna ask something... if i oc and want to increase vcore..
i shud increase from 1.33 to 1.4 or 1.33 to 1.34???

how many steps??

and the fsb is the ram clock speed rite???
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QUOTE(swhung @ Jan 10 2006, 09:59 PM)
wanna ask something... if i oc and want to increase vcore..
i shud increase from 1.33 to 1.4 or 1.33 to 1.34???

how many steps??

and the fsb is the ram clock speed rite???
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bro.. use one by one steps.. 1.33->1.34 u onli increse d volt if ur pc hang or fails some test... errmm... better u read throughly d pinned thread.. it seem u doesnt understand fully ab oc...

fsb will b d ram clock IF u r running fsb/ram ratio = 1 :1.. normally if u oc, u need to run in devider so that ur ram will not bottleneck u...

superpc, haha not kill.. jus mak u TFK.. kekkeek
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 10 2006, 08:45 PM)
when u wanna oc.. d importnat  think is always monitor d temp of ur mobo, proc ...ect.. d main point is overheated will causes d proc to hangus sweat.gif 
nice software to monitor temp... http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=204 usee at ur owwn risk..
from wat ive noe, warranty will b avoided if u hav burn marks at ur proc(usually due to oc'in) or if some of d proc legs bent...
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oo thanks thumbup.gif
but if just oncrease vcore and dun have burn mark
is it warranty void also?
coz the GC overclocking when play with voltmodding warranty void sweat.gif
i wonder is the CPU same with GPU? notworthy.gif
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warranty void technically
but whos gonna know that you've raised the voltage?

if u dont raise the voltage and run everything at stock and it burns up for some reason, you've voided the warranty even though u did nothing wrong

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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 11:08 PM)
oo thanks thumbup.gif
but if just oncrease vcore and dun have burn mark
is it warranty void also?
coz the GC overclocking when play with voltmodding warranty void sweat.gif
i wonder is the CPU same with GPU? notworthy.gif
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voltmoddin will avoid warranty coz u need to mod it manually.. not like proc.. if ur proc kong and dun hav burn mark, jus say dunno y suddenly d proc kong and u dun do anything whistling.gif

cpu=gpu? well, both of them is use to process somethin..jsu that d gpu process onli graphic related material..
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 11:08 PM)
oo thanks thumbup.gif
but if just oncrease vcore and dun have burn mark
is it warranty void also?
coz the GC overclocking when play with voltmodding warranty void sweat.gif
i wonder is the CPU same with GPU? notworthy.gif
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People who built the CPU has a minimal of a Masters Degree or better yet PHd.
People who manufacturer is has a minimal of Bacheclor' Degree or better yet Masters Holders
People who tested it also have the scrol of Masters
People who wrote the EULA, Warranty Disclaimer, Designers has also a minimal requirements of Masters or Bachelor's.
People who is going to check ur CPU,Mobo will hold what u think????

They know..but sometimes they miss....sometimes they ignore...and sometimes they just return the CPU to u and say "Damage due to overclocking....Warranty void! Any disagreements can proceed with High State/Federal/Capital Supreme Court via repectative countries".
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 10 2006, 11:13 PM)
voltmoddin will avoid warranty coz u need to mod it manually.. not like proc.. if ur proc kong and dun hav burn mark, jus say dunno y suddenly d proc kong and u dun do anything whistling.gif

cpu=gpu? well, both of them is use to process somethin..jsu that d gpu process onli graphic related material..
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thanks for ur infomation
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 10 2006, 11:18 PM)
People who built the CPU has a minimal of a Masters Degree or better yet PHd.
People who manufacturer is has a minimal of Bacheclor' Degree or better yet Masters Holders
People who tested it also have the scrol of Masters
People who wrote the EULA, Warranty Disclaimer, Designers has also a minimal requirements of Masters or Bachelor's.
People who is going to check ur CPU,Mobo will hold what u think????

They know..but sometimes they miss....sometimes they ignore...and sometimes they just return the CPU to u and say "Damage due to overclocking....Warranty void! Any disagreements can proceed with High State/Federal/Capital Supreme Court via repectative countries".
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mr.. zorro.. u r scaring him off laugh.gif laugh.gif

btw..d chances ur burns ur proc is very low although not zero.. jus make sure u monitor ur temp...
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 10 2006, 11:18 PM)
People who built the CPU has a minimal of a Masters Degree or better yet PHd.
People who manufacturer is has a minimal of Bacheclor' Degree or better yet Masters Holders
People who tested it also have the scrol of Masters
People who wrote the EULA, Warranty Disclaimer, Designers has also a minimal requirements of Masters or Bachelor's.
People who is going to check ur CPU,Mobo will hold what u think????

They know..but sometimes they miss....sometimes they ignore...and sometimes they just return the CPU to u and say "Damage due to overclocking....Warranty void! Any disagreements can proceed with High State/Federal/Capital Supreme Court via repectative countries".
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wink.gif such a ayat adjective
well thanks antonio_zth

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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 10 2006, 11:26 PM)
wink.gif such a ayat adjective
well thanks antonio_zth
dats why frm the beginning u need to read a lot of info about it.. then only u can start doing it in the safest way or properly w/o any bad result.. smile.gif
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blush.gif thanks for the help for ppl here
really appreciate it wub.gif
well,what the temp is safe for a pentium4 prescott?
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 12:00 AM)
blush.gif thanks for the help for ppl here
really appreciate it wub.gif
well,what the temp is safe for a pentium4 prescott?
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try get a full load at 40c....then u are at the safe side.... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 10 2006, 11:25 PM)
mr.. zorro.. u r scaring him off laugh.gif  laugh.gif 

btw..d chances ur burns ur proc is very low although not zero.. jus make sure u monitor ur temp...
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i'm not scaring him....

its what i think evertyime i overclock... yawn.gif
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 11 2006, 12:08 AM)
try get a full load at 40c....then u are at the safe side.... thumbup.gif
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40'c i think is not that easy for this moment coz i am using stock HSF sweat.gif
anyways,
thanks for the infomation for my further OC with some more decent HSF wink.gif
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well the only thing that will cause P4 chips to void warranty is over-voltage. temperature is nto really a problem (though yes, it will affect stability), but when it gets over the threshold voltage, the back-throttle will kick in and you will know you have somehow reach the temperature limit of your processor.

some have mix views about msi CC. i had pretty good experience with it getting my 2.8B up to 3.6 without changing its Vcore, but its still better for u to use cmos cuz DOT isnt really that reliable...its not intelligent enough to back down when it needs to and doesnt know when to stop increasing its FSB automatically.

if u want to OC "on the fly" from windows, get clockgen.

and be sure to increase ur ram voltage to about 2.7-2.8 first...

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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 12:15 AM)
40'c i think is not that easy for this moment coz i am using stock HSF sweat.gif
anyways,
thanks for the infomation for my further OC with some more decent HSF wink.gif
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thats why i quote 40c...coz u cant right now...if i say 60c then u start to ish a bit than start to twiggle the BIOS... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 12:15 AM)
40'c i think is not that easy for this moment coz i am using stock HSF sweat.gif
anyways,
thanks for the infomation for my further OC with some more decent HSF wink.gif
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whaaaaattt ohmy.gif ....40c is like impossible for full load for prescott..even now i use xp-120 idle 37 full load 55.. blink.gif
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whaaaaattt ohmy.gif ....40c is like impossible for full load for prescott..even now i use xp-120 idle 37 full load 55.. blink.gif
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try peltier for a change???? notworthy.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 11 2006, 12:26 AM)
try peltier for a change???? notworthy.gif  laugh.gif
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some thin layer of film which cools the chip down with electromagnetic technology i think....i cant remember.....something to do with electric lar...highly effectve but also very fatal if u dont install properly.
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 12:15 AM)
40'c i think is not that easy for this moment coz i am using stock HSF sweat.gif
anyways,
thanks for the infomation for my further OC with some more decent HSF wink.gif
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yupp... b4 oc'in better get good hsf and also psu...
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 11 2006, 12:08 AM)
try get a full load at 40c....then u are at the safe side.... thumbup.gif
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blink.gif blink.gif i guarenttee u will on d safe side wit that temp..


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whaaaaattt  ....40c is like impossible for full load for prescott..even now i use xp-120 idle 37 full load 55..


or for a change use water coolin.. thumbup.gif or nitrogen... shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2006, 01:22 AM)
yupp... b4 oc'in better get good hsf and also psu...
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ROGER!
btw,how bout the powerlogic atric500T
is it good? wink.gif
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 01:42 AM)
ROGER!
btw,how bout the powerlogic atric500T
is it good? wink.gif
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ermm.. i see that psu b4... quite heavy.. but not recommend u coz it not liked by oc'er.. try get d better quality.. see d discussion.. best psu for lowyat oc'er

btw..still not sleep yet a? waiting for arsenal vs wigan match thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2006, 01:49 AM)
ermm.. i see that psu b4... quite heavy.. but not recommend u coz it not liked by oc'er.. try get d better quality.. see d discussion.. best psu for lowyat oc'er

btw..still not sleep yet a? waiting for arsenal vs wigan match thumbup.gif
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ha u are arsenal fans also?? thumbup.gif
not,i am finding the review of z800
btw ,u got this review? drool.gif
well,i just want to know is that z800 got OS or not searh thruoght the net and find but didnt got result until now sweat.gif
btw,u avatar really makes ppl feel like make our eyes shocking.gif
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 01:52 AM)
ha u are arsenal fans also?? thumbup.gif
not,i am finding the review of z800
btw ,u got this review? drool.gif
well,i just want to know is that z800 got OS or not searh thruoght the net and find but didnt got result until now sweat.gif
btw,u avatar really makes ppl feel like make our eyes shocking.gif
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sorry.. wats z800? zippy800? im not into high end psu though.. no budget..... and soorry again im not arsenal fans.. jus that my housemate still dun sleep waitin for d match.. im mu fans cool.gif anyway hope good luck to ur club though...

kekek tahnks for lovin it.. cool.gif
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2006, 02:02 AM)
sorry.. wats z800? zippy800? im not into high end psu though.. no budget..... and soorry again im not arsenal fans.. jus that my housemate still dun sleep waitin for d match.. im mu fans cool.gif  anyway hope good luck to ur club though...

kekek tahnks for lovin it.. cool.gif
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btw,z800 is sony erricson z800 wink.gif
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2006, 01:24 AM)
blink.gif  blink.gif  i guarenttee u will on d safe side wit that temp..
or for a change use water coolin.. thumbup.gif  or nitrogen... shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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haha...dont worry la...my temp is normal for prescott..after all i oc what?.. rolleyes.gif..it also can handle until 80c before it hang or burn..but from what i know..intel never dies. smile.gif

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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 11 2006, 12:56 PM)
haha...dont worry la...my temp is normal for prescott..after all i oc what?..  rolleyes.gif..it also can handle until 80c before it hang or burn..but from what i know..intel never dies. smile.gif
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sweat.gif INTEL really So Tahan~~?
is it INTEL got a longer life span when compare to another proc?
interest to know about this... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 11 2006, 12:08 AM)
try get a full load at 40c....then u are at the safe side.... thumbup.gif
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hoongji, do at least apply some cheapo silicone thermal paste.

btw, i've got a unused small tube of Zalman's thermal paste. you can hav it for free
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i did. i just found my tube of el-cheapo vantec thermal paste that came with my Vantec Iceberq fan. it was meant for GPU. but what the heck, i just applied on my CPU. seems like no difference cry.gif
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 11 2006, 02:47 PM)
i did. i just found my tube of el-cheapo vantec thermal paste that came with my Vantec Iceberq fan. it was meant for GPU. but what the heck, i just applied on my CPU. seems like no difference cry.gif
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u apply it correctly or not? no need apply too much...
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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 11 2006, 12:56 PM)
haha...dont worry la...my temp is normal for prescott..after all i oc what?..  rolleyes.gif..it also can handle until 80c before it hang or burn..but from what i know..intel never dies. smile.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

btw.. bcoz of their architecture, intel's presscott tends to express more heat compare to their counterpart, amd's k8...


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INTEL really So Tahan~~?
is it INTEL got a longer life span when compare to another proc?
interest to know about this...

ya meh? got longer life span? never heard of it though... if u take k ur proc, it tends to hav longer lifespan.. thats means less heat=longer life= donwclock it tongue.gif ...
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2006, 03:22 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif 

btw.. bcoz of their architecture, intel's presscott tends to express more heat compare to their counterpart, amd's k8...
ya meh? got longer life span? never heard of it though... if u take k ur proc, it tends to hav longer lifespan.. thats means less heat=longer life= donwclock it  tongue.gif ...
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sweat.gif haaahh...
then i rather let him do as much as "possible" when he still alive....even thought maybe he will not live that old.....and long time(he=prescoot) laugh.gif
btw,lowyat82,no need work? wink.gif
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 03:36 PM)
sweat.gif haaahh...
then i rather let him do as much as "possible" when he still alive....even thought maybe he will not live that old.....and long time(he=prescoot) laugh.gif
btw,lowyat82,no need work? wink.gif
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hahah.. still studyin..today no class whistling.gif btw i heard else where forum says that a proc normal life span will b >10years ,if not take k finely, it wil shorten to 5-7 years.. dunno true or not though... hope some1 can enlighten me..
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I guess it's pretty seldom we'll still be using a 7 year old processor. Most apps would be too taxing at that time for it.
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 11 2006, 02:47 PM)
i did. i just found my tube of el-cheapo vantec thermal paste that came with my Vantec Iceberq fan. it was meant for GPU. but what the heck, i just applied on my CPU. seems like no difference cry.gif
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no difference between thermal paste for GPU or for CPU actually, same thing
temps might not drop, but at least u dont have to worry about it burning tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Jan 11 2006, 03:54 PM)
I guess it's pretty seldom we'll still be using a 7 year old processor. Most apps would be too taxing at that time for it.
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wink.gif ya,agree!
i think even thought the processor can hang on in 7years,the other component like mobo and HDD already down shakehead.gif


@lowyat82
sweat.gif wah,so happy,me still in the computer centre in my colledge,exam is coming cry.gif arhhh....really wish that the exam are concern about all this hardware laugh.gif
btw,thanks for ur infomation for the processor life span coz i never thought that proc can have this long life span,really new in computer hardware doh.gif
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just for review.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 11 2006, 04:59 PM)
just for review..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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sweat.gif is this that world record?
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jan 11 2006, 02:32 PM)
my p4 2.4c oced to 3.2 already 30-40 celcius when i just boot up. on full load reach 60 celcius. how to be on the safe side?
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of course la man..u oc..then get some high performance heatsink...ur proc is not prescott right?...if not then it really hot reaching 60c.
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 11 2006, 04:59 PM)
just for review..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pires87 @ Jan 11 2006, 04:21 PM)
wink.gif ya,agree!
i think even thought the processor can hang on in 7years,the other component like mobo and HDD already down shakehead.gif
@lowyat82
sweat.gif wah,so happy,me still in the computer centre in my colledge,exam is coming cry.gif arhhh....really wish that the exam are concern about all this hardware  laugh.gif
btw,thanks for ur infomation for the processor life span coz i never thought that proc can have this long life span,really new in computer hardware doh.gif
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but plz bare in mind my statement actually is quoted by forummers ... so i dunno true or not... anyway, it can b use as reference though..
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2006, 07:00 PM)
but plz bare in mind my statement actually is quoted by  forummers ... so i dunno true or not... anyway, it can b use as reference though..
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here mine....with standard hsf, running 4/7......
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here mine....with standard hsf, running 4/7......
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here's mine.
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Validate on my Signature.

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ermm ... although u can increase d fsb thus increases d core speed, do u all test its stability? so it can b label as bootable or benchable/prime stable?
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i've a problem here.evertime i restart my pc, my overclocked proc will also reset to normal.why?? and how to increase my volt 4 proc??using what software.now i'm using clockgen..hope u all can help me...my spec as my signature below.
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i've a problem here.evertime i restart my pc, my overclocked proc will also reset to normal.why?? and how to increase my volt 4 proc??using what software.now i'm using clockgen..hope u all can help me...my spec as my signature below.
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try update to latest BIOS & see how things go wink.gif
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i've a problem here.evertime i restart my pc, my overclocked proc will also reset to normal.why?? and how to increase my volt 4 proc??using what software.now i'm using clockgen..hope u all can help me...my spec as my signature below.
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maybe is Ur mobo battery gone liau.. need to change ..
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your cpu temperature??
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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Jan 12 2006, 09:06 AM)
mine one.. max try only 260ffsb 1:1
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your PI same as mine eventho im running at 3GHz!!! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(RiCHBoyZ @ Jan 12 2006, 01:16 PM)
your PI same as mine eventho im running at 3GHz!!! biggrin.gif
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hmm....your super-pi timings pretty high....with my sempron, i can reach 35 secs with no problem.. sweat.gif
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p4 3.0GHz prescott can reach around 39-40sec with tight ram timing, and after overclocked to 4.0GHz, migh hit 30/31sec

very nice results for a 2.6c proc overclocked to 3.3GHz thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 12 2006, 01:20 PM)
hmm....your super-pi timings pretty high....with my sempron, i can reach 35 secs with no problem.. sweat.gif
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i don dare to push more since stock hsf, wait i get better HSF and quality RAM module, since now im using Corsair VS PC3200 512MB............since it running smooth @ 3GHz i think that more then enough for downloading 24/7 jobs!
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Jan 12 2006, 11:13 AM)
i've a problem here.evertime i restart my pc, my overclocked proc will also reset to normal.why?? and how to increase my volt 4 proc??using what software.now i'm using clockgen..hope u all can help me...my spec as my signature below.
u using intel mobo rite?.. maybe they locked it.. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Jan 12 2006, 11:13 AM)
i've a problem here.evertime i restart my pc, my overclocked proc will also reset to normal.why?? and how to increase my volt 4 proc??using what software.now i'm using clockgen..hope u all can help me...my spec as my signature below.
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ha...u using intel desktop board...so no way for u to increase the vcore...i used intel desktop board before...so i know quite a bit..u can overclock if only u use ES proc on intel desktop board.
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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 12 2006, 03:10 PM)
ha...u using intel desktop board...so no way for u to increase the vcore...i used intel desktop board before...so i know quite a bit..u can overclock if only u use ES proc on intel desktop board.
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a question
where can we get the ES?
is it didnt come at shop? sweat.gif
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sector clear.. im in position.. Lol

ps : u can see alot record from this cpu-z web here..  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Ha,Roger that
see the record already
until now my mind still cannot calmdown
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QUOTE(Evogenix @ Jan 12 2006, 02:07 PM)
p4 3.0GHz prescott can reach around 39-40sec with tight ram timing, and after overclocked to 4.0GHz, migh hit 30/31sec

very nice results for a 2.6c proc overclocked to 3.3GHz thumbup.gif

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wow great result thumbup.gif
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Original CPU/Socket: P4M266A-8235
FSB: 100MHz
Clock speed: 1.8GHz
DDR-SDRAM 768 MB 133 (256+512) 2.5-3-3-6
Chipset: VIA P4M266A(VT8751)

Can use wat software o/c?Coz im newbie.

Can be o/c or not?Coz my computer i buy 2 years ago sweat.gif

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QUOTE(L3NG_zAi @ Jan 12 2006, 04:46 PM)
Original CPU/Socket: P4M266A-8235
FSB: 100MHz
Clock speed: 1.8GHz
DDR-SDRAM 768 MB 133 (256+512) 2.5-3-3-6
Chipset: VIA P4M266A(VT8751)

Can use wat software o/c?Coz im newbie.

Can be o/c or not?Coz my computer i buy 2 years ago sweat.gif
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oc is done through your bios... but you need a good psu to get you started...cause chapalang psu will do more damage than good once you start oceing cause of unstable fluctuations in your rails...hehehe....in short kaboom will happen really soon if you OC without a good psu... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Evogenix @ Jan 12 2006, 02:07 PM)
p4 3.0GHz prescott can reach around 39-40sec with tight ram timing, and after overclocked to 4.0GHz, migh hit 30/31sec

very nice results for a 2.6c proc overclocked to 3.3GHz thumbup.gif

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thanks .. but i want to try more higher.. have any tips?
current voltage CPU= 1.65v
Ram = max 2.8v
n AGP voltage.. is this for add the GCard voltage??

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I think you could overclock your 1.8A to 2.4GHz or more. I am still having my mom's CPU which is a 1.6A Pentium 4 running at 2.4ghz. They are quite good overclockers but you might need to check the limit of your RAM.

I believe the multiplier is 18x100. Since you have SDRAM133, you could slowly raise the multiplier to 18*133 = 2.394ghz. smile.gif

QUOTE(L3NG_zAi @ Jan 12 2006, 04:46 PM)
Original CPU/Socket: P4M266A-8235
FSB: 100MHz
Clock speed: 1.8GHz
DDR-SDRAM 768 MB 133 (256+512) 2.5-3-3-6
Chipset: VIA P4M266A(VT8751)

Can use wat software o/c?Coz im newbie.

Can be o/c or not?Coz my computer i buy 2 years ago sweat.gif
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a question
where can we get the ES?
is it didnt come at shop? sweat.gif
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heh..es are actually not for sold..it's Engineering Sample processor used by intel engineer..es proc u can change the multiplier without increasing the fsb to oc..mine i get from my brother..he's an engineer at intel.
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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 12 2006, 05:52 PM)
heh..es are actually not for sold..it's Engineering Sample processor used by intel engineer..es proc u can change the multiplier without increasing the fsb to oc..mine i get from my brother..he's an engineer at intel.
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or occasionally you can get it in garage section...sometimes if you're lucky or when the time is right, people will be selling it...but from my past experience, ES dun work on all motherboards..only specific motherboards...not too sure why....blink.gif
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Can teach me how to o/c it?My PSU is only 350w like chapalang one...
Donno can o/c it or not coz quiet old the pc already...my mobo is biostar u8668 grand,donno u heard it be4 or not.
Can teach me?
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 12 2006, 05:54 PM)
or occasionally you can get it in garage section...sometimes if you're lucky or when the time is right, people will be selling it...but from my past experience, ES dun work on all motherboards..only specific motherboards...not too sure why....blink.gif
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i dont know about that..but my last intel desktop board 915gav can...also on my dfi lanparty 915.

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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 12 2006, 06:16 PM)
i dont know about that..but my last intel desktop board 915gav can.
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might be lucky i guess...cause the last time people sells ES sample..they say it will work specifically on gigabyte models only...but after seeing the layout of that mobo..got turned off and decided to skip ES samples already...smile.gif

btw, how is DFI boards on intel? work as good as its AMD mobos?
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 12 2006, 06:21 PM)
might be lucky i guess...cause the last time people sells ES sample..they say it will work specifically on gigabyte models only...but after seeing the layout of that mobo..got turned off and decided to skip ES samples already...smile.gif

btw, how is DFI boards on intel? work as good as its AMD mobos?
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Wat to do with BIOS??How to do it?
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QUOTE(L3NG_zAi @ Jan 12 2006, 06:30 PM)
Wat to do with BIOS??How to do it?
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Ah,my mobo does not support o/c.Too bad.
Anyway,tq for reply me.

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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Jan 12 2006, 06:26 PM)
yups..good...no problems at all. thumbup.gif
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can use ES?
anyone know? notworthy.gif

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arhh...so how bout MSI  thumbup.gif
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act.. d ES is illegal.. d proc can b taken from u... it is not sold open market.. but, when u lucky and at d right time.. u can get that kind of proc... but always prepare ur self that d proc will taken from u... if 'they' noe it...
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 12 2006, 11:39 PM)
act.. d ES is illegal.. d proc can b taken from u... it is not sold open market.. but, when u lucky and at d right time.. u can get that kind of proc... but always prepare ur self that d proc will taken from u... if 'they' noe it...
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hahaha...yeap if they know...the problem is they are the people who take it out and sell it..hahaha
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btw,, still can get any ES proc from ur bro?  whistling.gif  im interested... drool.gif
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I consider myself a noob to oc, only been at it for 3 months. I want to seek advice from the gurus of Intel OC. See my sig below for system details.

Firstly, I have been successful in OCing my Intel 630 stably (Prime95 15hrs) to 3.96Ghz with some heat issues, vcore at 1.55 and vdimm at 2.1. See attached pic. The oc gets me a Super Pi 1M of just over 32secs, and with the 7800GTX, a 3DMark05 score of 8100. After living with this Oc for the past month or so, all systems are go except for the game FEAR..... which will crash and quit to windows, 10seconds after the game loads..... happens everytime. Fear will run stably at 3.74Ghz. What gives? Ram is running at 800Mhz in all instances. So everytime i want to play FEAR, I'd need to bring down the FSB... pain is the axx!

Secondly my system will not take any oc above 3.975Mhz. If I oc anything above FSB1060, e.g. FSB1061, the system will boot but then scale down to 3.975Ghz immediately in windows. I have upped vcore till 1.6v (max for my mobo) and still the same. This happens with all FSB leading up to 1067, after which system will not boot! Which is really odd, mobo issue u think?

Btw, all oc done in the bios, not using Asus' AI Booster.
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I think your CPU has hit the wall already. Anyway, for Intel, there's negligible differences of 200MHz. So, why not just permanently drop the frequency to 3.74ghz to run FEAR without problems.

Anyway, what heatsink fan do you use? Perhaps turning to something in the likes of Thermalright XP-90c might help you better in your endeavor. The cooler the CPU, the less likelihood it will crash.

QUOTE(jasonlky @ Jan 13 2006, 05:31 PM)
I consider myself a noob to oc, only been at it for 3 months. I want to seek advice from the gurus of Intel OC. See my sig below for system details.

Firstly, I have been successful in OCing my Intel 630 stably (Prime95 15hrs) to 3.96Ghz with some heat issues, vcore at 1.55 and vdimm at 2.1.  See attached pic.  The oc gets me a Super Pi 1M of just over 32secs, and with the 7800GTX, a 3DMark05 score of 8100.  After living with this Oc for the past month or so, all systems are go except for the game FEAR..... which will crash and quit to windows, 10seconds after the game loads..... happens everytime. Fear will run stably at 3.74Ghz.  What gives? Ram is running at 800Mhz in all instances. So everytime i want to play FEAR, I'd need to bring down the FSB... pain is the axx!

Secondly my system will not take any oc above 3.975Mhz. If I oc anything above FSB1060, e.g. FSB1061, the system will boot but then scale down to 3.975Ghz immediately in windows. I have upped vcore till 1.6v (max for my mobo) and still the same.  This happens with all FSB leading up to 1067, after which system will not boot! Which is really odd, mobo issue u think?

Btw, all oc done in the bios, not using Asus' AI Booster.
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I consider myself a noob to oc, only been at it for 3 months. I want to seek advice from the gurus of Intel OC. See my sig below for system details.

Firstly, I have been successful in OCing my Intel 630 stably (Prime95 15hrs) to 3.96Ghz with some heat issues, vcore at 1.55 and vdimm at 2.1.  See attached pic.  The oc gets me a Super Pi 1M of just over 32secs, and with the 7800GTX, a 3DMark05 score of 8100.  After living with this Oc for the past month or so, all systems are go except for the game FEAR..... which will crash and quit to windows, 10seconds after the game loads..... happens everytime. Fear will run stably at 3.74Ghz.  What gives? Ram is running at 800Mhz in all instances. So everytime i want to play FEAR, I'd need to bring down the FSB... pain is the axx!

Secondly my system will not take any oc above 3.975Mhz. If I oc anything above FSB1060, e.g. FSB1061, the system will boot but then scale down to 3.975Ghz immediately in windows. I have upped vcore till 1.6v (max for my mobo) and still the same.  This happens with all FSB leading up to 1067, after which system will not boot! Which is really odd, mobo issue u think?

Btw, all oc done in the bios, not using Asus' AI Booster.
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NF4 C19 Chipset issue i believe..i did 3.975mhz using NF4 SLI Intel edition too..up abit fsb..wont boot.. cry.gif my proc running at 1.475volts...everything runs ok..
im still tweaking tho..I want my 4Ghz!! cry.gif

try lower down ur ram fsb..up ur pci-e voltage one notch..LDT 3.5
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Jan 13 2006, 07:22 PM)
I think your CPU has hit the wall already. Anyway, for Intel, there's negligible differences of 200MHz. So, why not just permanently drop the frequency to 3.74ghz to run FEAR without problems.

Anyway, what heatsink fan do you use? Perhaps turning to something in the likes of Thermalright XP-90c might help you better in your endeavor. The cooler the CPU, the less likelihood it will crash.
I am currently on Stock heat sink, with serious watercooling coming soon thumbup.gif. But why does Fear crash out to windows. Tried upping chipset voltages, still the same. (Note: computer/windows does not crash, only Fear exits to windows)

Anyway, my goal is to reach 4.5Ghz on the 630 intel chip. This 4.5Ghz oc was easily done using the 630 chip on an Asus P5WD2 mobo I think. Do a google and u'll find it. So I do not think I have hit a wall on the processor.

QUOTE(tone @ Jan 14 2006, 12:09 AM)
NF4 C19 Chipset issue i believe..i did 3.975mhz using NF4 SLI Intel edition too..up abit fsb..wont boot.. cry.gif my proc running at 1.475volts...everything runs ok..
im still tweaking tho..I want my 4Ghz!!  cry.gif

try lower down ur ram fsb..up ur pci-e voltage one notch..LDT 3.5
hope it helps.
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Who is the manufacturer of your mobo anyway?

I have not heard any issues with the NF4 chipset hitting upwards of 4.0ghz. Will google this abit and see what is up with the NF4 chipset issue. If this turns out to be true, I may have to kiss my 4.5Ghz ego trip goodbye. (Better still, this maybe my a reason to get a new mobo) The fact that the 4.5Ghz oc was done on another mobo does lend some credibility to your claims that there may be some issues with the NF4 chipset.

Could be a bios problem, read that there was plenty of problems with the bios on the premium version of my mobo.

I have tried all that you have suggested and the results were the same. Ram at stock (667Mhz) and at oc (800Mhz) is the same. Chipset voltages have not impact to the stability of FEAR or the ability to break 3.975Ghz barrier.
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QUOTE(jasonlky @ Jan 15 2006, 11:13 PM)
I am currently on Stock heat sink, with serious watercooling coming soon  thumbup.gif.  But why does Fear crash out to windows. Tried upping chipset voltages, still the same. (Note: computer/windows does not crash, only Fear exits to windows)

Anyway, my goal is to reach 4.5Ghz on the 630 intel chip.  This 4.5Ghz oc was easily done using the 630 chip on an Asus P5WD2 mobo I think.  Do a google and u'll find it.  So I do not think I have hit a wall on the processor.
Who is the manufacturer of your mobo anyway?

I have not heard any issues with the NF4 chipset hitting upwards of 4.0ghz.  Will google this abit and see what is up with the NF4 chipset issue.  If this turns out to be true, I may have to kiss my 4.5Ghz ego trip goodbye.  (Better still, this maybe my a reason to get a new mobo) The fact that the 4.5Ghz oc was done on another mobo does lend some credibility to your claims that there may be some issues with the NF4 chipset.

Could be a bios problem, read that there was plenty of problems with the bios on the premium version of my mobo.

I have tried all that you have suggested and the results were the same.  Ram at stock (667Mhz) and at oc (800Mhz) is the same. Chipset voltages have not impact to the stability of FEAR or the ability to break 3.975Ghz barrier.
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ive always tot my proc was the problem...but during tweaking my mobo..i found out my 630 can actually run at 3.9ghz at default voltage (fully benchable ..3dmark, superpi, prime95, games....all this while was upping voltage to get it stable.

to get 4.5ghz..as far as i know..only two mobo can do 300fsb n above..Asus P5WD2/E & Abit AA8XE..

here's a link to Nf4 Intel Sli overclocking results.
most crap out ard 260+fsb... sad.gif

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=4...7&highlight=630

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=4...8&highlight=630

Guess its time we change mobo huh.. biggrin.gif

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Thanks for the links. It is indeed a sad day for NF4 intel edition. But change mobo to what to keep the SLI capability.... can the NF4x16 mobos do better?

Else may have to consider the intel 955 based mobos..... IF we intend to stay with intel.... could always jump onto the 'other' bandwagon.

By the way still kennot find the solution to my FEAR instability.
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I have a Pentium 4 Prescott (P4E) 2.8Ghz. I tried using the Clockgen software to overclock but failed even by a little bit. How do i unlock my processor anyway?

Using stock HSF with Intel D865PERL mainboard. 800mhz FSB 4x256mb Kingston Rams.

Mainboard = motherboard rite? not so sure abt that.

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Im newbie in this kind of stuff. I've oc my cpu to 2.9. Issit posible to increase more? Im using a stock cooler for and the temp now is arround 47c. I saw some ppl post that the votage or anything else need to be adjust too. So, can any of u guys here help me out with this. btw, im using an p4p800se asus mobo blush.gif

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any soft modd to overclock my machine, try to search for it.. didnt found it

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Original description: Based on 8123-32A: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 515, 256MB, 80GB 7200RPM S-ATA HDD, PCI Desktop (3x4), Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900, 48x CD-ROM, 10/100 Ethernet, Windows XP Professional


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QUOTE(yewjhin @ Jan 18 2006, 01:34 PM)
I have a Pentium 4 Prescott (P4E) 2.8Ghz. I tried using the Clockgen software to overclock but failed even by a little bit. How do i unlock my processor anyway?

Using stock HSF with Intel D865PERL mainboard. 800mhz FSB 4x256mb Kingston Rams.

Mainboard = motherboard rite? not so sure abt that.
Intel locked their mobo in term of overclocking.. Luckily sometimes it is possible to use software to do the job, but i can confirm u'll not get a good result..

QUOTE(Vorx @ Jan 18 2006, 03:07 PM)
Im newbie in this kind of stuff. I've oc my cpu to 2.9. Issit posible to increase more? Im using a stock cooler for and the temp now is arround 47c. I saw some ppl post that the votage or anything else need to be adjust too. So, can any of u guys here help me out with this. btw, im using an p4p800se asus mobo blush.gif
u satisfied with the result already?..

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any soft modd to overclock my machine, try to search for it.. didnt found it

Product: ThinkCentre A51 8123-KAB [change]


Operating system: All [change]

Original description: Based on 8123-32A: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 515, 256MB, 80GB 7200RPM S-ATA HDD, PCI Desktop (3x4), Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900, 48x CD-ROM, 10/100 Ethernet, Windows XP Professional


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IBM izzit?.. the mobo being use is Intel?..

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QUOTE(yewjhin @ Jan 18 2006, 01:34 PM)
I have a Pentium 4 Prescott (P4E) 2.8Ghz. I tried using the Clockgen software to overclock but failed even by a little bit. How do i unlock my processor anyway?

Using stock HSF with Intel D865PERL mainboard. 800mhz FSB 4x256mb Kingston Rams.

Mainboard = motherboard rite? not so sure abt that.
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Well the com was bought like wat, 2 years ago. Didnt have knowledge on these things back then.
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not really satisfied. but if it goes more than 55c will my processor fried or mayb damage? :confused;
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QUOTE(Vorx @ Jan 18 2006, 05:52 PM)
not really satisfied. but if it goes more than 55c will my processor fried or mayb damage? :confused;
increase ur fsb more.. keep the current voltage.. and see how the result.. that is normal temp for presscott.. u need to be prepared for a better cooling solution for sure if u want to go furthermore.. smile.gif
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not really satisfied. but if it goes more than 55c will my processor fried or mayb damage? :confused;
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Hi i'm noob in OC. Is my processor and motherboard suitable for overclocking?

Below is my system spec:
CPU : Intel Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200) 800FSB L2:1024KB on Cooler Master Jet 4
MOBO : Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G
RAM : 1.5GB Kingston Value Ram DDR 400
PSU : Enermax EG465P-VE (460W)
DC : Grandmars Redeon 9550 Infinite (Core:400 / Memory:700)

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Can anyone guide me for Overclocking my system?

Thank a lot......... smile.gif

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QUOTE(yu_8200 @ Jan 19 2006, 12:38 AM)
Hi i'm noob in OC. Is my processor and motherboard suitable for overclocking?

Below is my system spec:
CPU  : Intel Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200) 800FSB L2:1024KB on Cooler Master Jet 4
MOBO : Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G
RAM  : 1.5GB Kingston Value Ram DDR 400
PSU  : Enermax EG465P-VE (460W)
DC  : Grandmars Redeon 9550 Infinite (Core:400 / Memory:700)

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Can anyone guide me for Overclocking my system?

Thank a lot......... smile.gif
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yes..can overclock..i865pe ? overclock with two pieces ram..three pieces no good...up fsb at 5mhz ..test stability..run prime95 for one hour..if no error...up 5mhz again..test again..keep going until proc hang or reboot..up voltage one notch..go again..max temp for p4 ard 60-65'c..wats ur proc default voltage?
overclock ur system with chassis panel open..better air flow..


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QUOTE(yu_8200 @ Jan 19 2006, 12:38 AM)
Hi i'm noob in OC. Is my processor and motherboard suitable for overclocking?

Below is my system spec:
CPU  : Intel Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200) 800FSB L2:1024KB on Cooler Master Jet 4
MOBO : Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G
RAM  : 1.5GB Kingston Value Ram DDR 400
PSU  : Enermax EG465P-VE (460W)
DC  : Grandmars Redeon 9550 Infinite (Core:400 / Memory:700)

Can anyone guide me for Overclocking my system?

Thank a lot......... smile.gif
yeah that is one of the best board around for P4 s478 i think.. smile.gif
u will find a lot of useful article frm here as the guidance.. trust them.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(tone @ Jan 19 2006, 01:02 AM)
yes..can overclock..i865pe ? overclock with two pieces ram..three pieces no good...up fsb at 5mhz ..test stability..run prime95 for one hour..if no error...up 5mhz again..test again..keep going until proc hang or reboot..up voltage one notch..go again..max temp for p4 ard 60-65'c..wats ur proc default voltage?
overclock ur system with chassis  panel open..better air flow..
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Yes, is 865pe, the voltage is manage by motherboard, i never adjust it. Do i need to fix it manually?
My 1.5G RAM is 2x512mb + 2x256mb, its ok? and For the FBS:DRAM, wat value should be?
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Yes, is 865pe, the voltage is manage by motherboard, i never adjust it. Do i need to fix it manually?
My 1.5G RAM is 2x512mb + 2x256mb, its ok? and For the FBS:DRAM, wat value should be?
2 stick of the ram is only considered as a good setup for this purpose..
that mean in ur case, only 2x512 or 2x256 is needed.. then only u can choose the right/the best setting..
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Hi again...I just wanna ask about the FSB:DRAM ratio. Wat issit actually?
Here's mine, issit a good to have a 1:1 or there is a better ratio?
Need guidance from some pros pls.

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QUOTE(Vorx @ Jan 19 2006, 04:57 PM)
Hi again...I just wanna ask about the FSB:DRAM ratio. Wat issit actually?
Here's mine, issit a good to have a 1:1 or there is a better ratio?
Need guidance from some pros pls.

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1:1 is the best as the cpu fsb n the ram fsb run at the same speed, making the bandwidth better if im not mistaken.
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QUOTE(Vorx @ Jan 19 2006, 04:57 PM)
Hi again...I just wanna ask about the FSB:DRAM ratio. Wat issit actually?
Here's mine, issit a good to have a 1:1 or there is a better ratio?
Need guidance from some pros pls.
FSB:DRAM ratio means how ur processor and ram fsb cooperate with each other.. its well know as "divider".. so like the pics ur processor now is 141fsb, so with 1:1 divider thats how ur ram is run at 141 also.. let say the ram that u use is PC3200/DDR 400/200mhz which capable tu surpass the processor fsb, u can set it to 5:6(or any as long as ram higher than cpu).. 5:6 for an example, so right now ur procs fsb is 141 and ur ram is 141/5*6 == 169.2..

this is only an example.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Jan 19 2006, 07:00 PM)
FSB:DRAM ratio means how ur processor and ram fsb cooperate with each other.. its well know as "divider".. so like the pics ur processor now is 141fsb, so with 1:1 divider thats how ur ram is run at 141 also.. let say the ram that u use is PC3200/DDR 400/200mhz which capable tu surpass the processor fsb, u can set it to 5:6(or any as long as ram higher than cpu).. 5:6 for an example, so right now ur procs fsb is 141 and ur ram is 141/5*6 == 169.2..

this is only an example.. smile.gif
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Ohh okay, now I get it. Can it be tweak to make it works faster than cpu? Actually, how? Hmm....but I noticed somethin, my ram actually works at 333, but now it works at 266 doh.gif So this mean the lower it is, slower rite? It was 333 before I tweak the timing from 3-4-4-8 to 2.5-3-3-7. Can tell me wat's wrong? Thx notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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Ohh okay, now I get it. Can it be tweak to make it works faster than cpu? Actually, how? Hmm....but I noticed somethin, my ram actually works at 333, but now it works at 266  doh.gif  So this mean the lower it is, slower rite? It was 333 before I tweak the timing from 3-4-4-8 to 2.5-3-3-7. Can tell me wat's wrong? Thx  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

A newbie learning here  sweat.gif
Nothing wrong.. But u need some reading 1st..
Read ikanayam's P4 n memory overclocking guide and here and here and here..
Reading will help u alot.. If this is not enough yet, Google is always been waiting for u..
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QUOTE(Vorx @ Jan 19 2006, 04:57 PM)
Hi again...I just wanna ask about the FSB:DRAM ratio. Wat issit actually?
Here's mine, issit a good to have a 1:1 or there is a better ratio?
Need guidance from some pros pls.

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btw.. wats ur stock ram speed? coz u r using 1:1 but ur ram runs at 141.01(oc'n 8.+)

that means u r using ram wit speed 266ddr blink.gif

fsb:dram is d ratio of front side bus wit speed pf ram..when u wanna oc higher, u need to use divider/ratio to hit higher speed.. d correct way to nnoe wats ur highesrt speed of ur ram, u can see it at d pinned section of oc united..

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tweakin d ram will not effect d speed u r runnin, it will effect if u change d fsb...

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I want to suggest something.

Why don't you guys make a proper overclocking database for Intel. The requirement is simple.... just 8 hours prime stable. Post a screenshot with 2 cpu-z showing cpu and ram properties. That's all.

if u guys agree.... antonio can pm me and we'll work things out.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 20 2006, 06:11 PM)
I want to suggest something.

Why don't you guys make a proper overclocking database for Intel. The requirement is simple.... just 8 hours prime stable. Post a screenshot with 2 cpu-z showing cpu and ram properties. That's all.

if u guys agree.... antonio can pm me and we'll work things out.
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i think a database for pentium is a must... thumbup.gif happy OC'n...
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New burn-in processor method.
Overclocked ur proc UNDER defaults voltage..
Results ! P4 630 3Ghz @ 3.825Ghz AT 1.34volts! Defaults 1.4volts! drool.gif


method:
1)overclock proc at default voltage to max (prime stable)
2)under volts at one notch..prime again..
3)keep under volts until prime95 unstable/error.

ive successfully under volts my P4 630 to 1.34volts.
from 1.4v,1.38,1.37,1.36,1.35 to 1.34volts.
Runs colder & ROCK Stable.

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QUOTE(tone @ Jan 21 2006, 02:30 PM)
New burn-in processor method.
Overclocked ur proc UNDER defaults voltage..
Results ! P4 630 3Ghz @ 3.825Ghz AT 1.34volts! Defaults 1.4volts! drool.gif


method:
1)overclock proc at default voltage to max (prime stable)
2)under volts at one notch..prime again..
3)keep under volts until prime95 unstable/error.

ive successfully under volts my P4 630  to 1.34volts.
from 1.4v,1.38,1.37,1.36,1.35 to 1.34volts.
Runs colder & ROCK Stable.

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u prime it for how long?
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post Jan 21 2006, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(tone @ Jan 21 2006, 02:30 PM)
New burn-in processor method.
Overclocked ur proc UNDER defaults voltage..
Results ! P4 630 3Ghz @ 3.825Ghz AT 1.34volts! Defaults 1.4volts! drool.gif


method:
1)overclock proc at default voltage to max (prime stable)
2)under volts at one notch..prime again..
3)keep under volts until prime95 unstable/error.

ive successfully under volts my P4 630  to 1.34volts.
from 1.4v,1.38,1.37,1.36,1.35 to 1.34volts.
Runs colder & ROCK Stable.
can show us some screenie for the prime test?.. smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2006, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(tone @ Jan 21 2006, 02:30 PM)
New burn-in processor method.
Overclocked ur proc UNDER defaults voltage..
Results ! P4 630 3Ghz @ 3.825Ghz AT 1.34volts! Defaults 1.4volts! drool.gif


method:
1)overclock proc at default voltage to max (prime stable)
2)under volts at one notch..prime again..
3)keep under volts until prime95 unstable/error.

ive successfully under volts my P4 630  to 1.34volts.
from 1.4v,1.38,1.37,1.36,1.35 to 1.34volts.
Runs colder & ROCK Stable.

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That's mostly true for the 'E' Prescott Cpus. they scale high even on default voltage, 1.3-1.4v if u can keep the temps cool enough.

However, the earlier families "C" , 'B' , etc , will only respond well if additional voltage is applied.

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i have some question about my intel rig:
my mobo is Abit AL8-V, the multi is 16 in bios, why it always show only 14 in windows?
i already set to minimal power management... any1 help on this?
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post Jan 25 2006, 10:27 PM

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d power management shud b set to diasable... btw, plz show some screenies... it will help..
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 25 2006, 10:27 PM)
d power management shud b set to diasable... btw, plz show some screenies... it will help..
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i've fix that...thanks anyway, just set to Home/office desktop...
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QUOTE(BWTAN @ Jan 26 2006, 07:19 PM)
i've fix that...thanks anyway, just set to Home/office desktop...
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ermm... i mean at d bios there.. set d power management to disable.. hope u get wat i mean..,.
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wta,any1 noe how to use the speedstep for foxconn mobo? im using a p4 1.7 willy proc n 661fx4mr-es mobo.
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QUOTE(BWTAN @ Jan 25 2006, 08:07 PM)
i have some question about my intel rig:
my mobo is Abit AL8-V, the multi is 16 in bios, why it always show only 14 in windows?
i already set to minimal power management... any1 help on this?
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start overclock yet?
was wondering how high AL8-v can overclock.
tot of getting one..my mobo stuck at 265mhz.


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